April 22, 2020 • 44 mins
IllumiNative’s inaugural podcast episode brings you stories from across America and unpacks issues related to Covid-19 and Indian Country – from the CARES Act and how it impacts tribes, to interviews with those on the frontlines of the Coronavirus pandemic. Host and IllumiNative Executive Director Crystal Echo Hawk interviews Indian Country Today Editor, Mark Trahant, about the issues facing Indian Country in the midst of Covid-19. Oglala Sioux Tribal President, Julian Bear Runner tells us about his forward-thinking actions before Covid-19 reached his nation. We’ll hear from members of Congress, including Congresswoman Deb Haaland, and connect with first responders on the frontlines at the Navajo Reservation who are putting their lives on the line to make sure there are enough Covid-19 tests for anyone who needs one.
Interviews with: President Julian Bear Runner (Oglala Sioux Tribe), Senator Tom Udall, Congresswoman Deb Haaland (Laguna Pueblo), Congressman Tom Cole (Chickasaw), Kevin Allis (Forest County Potawatomi Community) CEO of NCAI, Mark Trahant (Shoshone-Bannock), Mechem Frashier (Navajo), and Jessica Tsabetsaye (Zuni Pueblo).
Produced By: Tara Gatewood (Isleta Pueblo/Diné), Allison Herrera (Xolon Salinan), Monica Braine (Assiniboine/Hunkpapa Lakota), Crystal Echo Hawk (Pawnee)
Executive Producer: Heather Rae
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
[inaudible] [inaudible].
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to the first episode of Illuminative on air.
I'm crystal echo Hawk.
I'm your host and founder andexecutive director of
illuminated.
I want to take a couple ofminutes to tell you a little bit
about myself illuminative and toset the table so to speak about
why we are embarking on thisjourney with our new podcast.
First, I'm a citizen of thePawnee nation located in
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Oklahoma.
I'm also a mom, an auntie, asister, and a lifelong organizer
and advocate for nativechildren, families and
communities.
As for illuminative, we are anational nonprofit organization
dedicated to amplifyingcontemporary native voices,
stories and issues in popculture, media and K through 12
education.
We do this work in order tofight the profound and
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visibility toxic stereotypes andfalse narratives that feel bias
and racism against nativepeoples.
Illuminated was born out ofsomething called the reclaiming
native truth project.
A project that I co-led between2016 and 2018 it was a three
point$3 million project.
That was the largest publicopinion research project ever
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conducted about native peoples.
Our groundbreaking researchconducted by some of the top
minds in the country exploredone of the dominant perceptions
that Americans have about nativepeoples.
Why do they have theseperceptions and how do these
perceptions play out in some ofour most powerful institutions
in this country like the courtsand Congress, as well as in
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media education, philanthropy,and in just in everyday life,
the findings were astounding.
We found that nearly 80% ofAmericans know little to nothing
about native peoples, and asignificant percentage of
Americans aren't entirely surethat native peoples even exist
anymore.
72% of Americans also rarely ornever encounter information
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about native Americans in theirdaily lives.
Our research found that nearly90% of schools in this country
do not teach about nativeAmericans past 1900 and our
representation in TV and film isless than 0.04% so what does
this all mean?
It means that contemporarynative peoples largely do not
exist in the consciousness ofAmericans and in key
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institutions and within powerholders in this country.
The consequences of thisinvisibility are profound.
As our research found.
According to top socialpsychologists, we worked with dr
Stephanie Freiburg of theuniversity of Michigan and dr
Arianne Easten of the universityof California at Berkeley found
that this invisibility fuelsbias and that plainly spoke in
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visibility is the modern form ofracism against native Americans.
It has real consequences thatoften mean that native Americans
are left out of key pieces oflegislation and policies that
affect lives, our livelihood,our health, and our rights as
citizens of sovereign tribalnations.
Our research also found on theflip side of this profound and
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visibility are toxicstereotypes, false narratives
and myths that also feel biasfrom racist sports mascots to
the perpetual myths that nativeAmericans don't pay taxes, that
we just get checks for beingnative while also enriching
ourselves off a tribal gaming.
Our research found that thesetoxic stereotypes in in miss
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fuel bias and systemicdiscrimination.
As we face this unprecedentedcrisis of the COBIT 19 pandemic,
we are immersed in wall to wallmedia coverage about the
devastating impact that coven 19is having on communities across
the United States, especially inlow income and communities of
color.
Indian country and nativecommunities are no exception.
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However, media coverage haslargely been sparse and even as
coven 19 cases are ticking upinto major hotspots in tribal
communities such as the Navajonation and in some pueblos in
New Mexico, we've seen verylittle coverage.
We've also seen instances ofoutright misinformation about
federal assistance to nativecommunities in this moment.
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It is critical to ensure that weare amplifying what is happening
in native communities and toensure that we're hearing the
stories of native peoples fromthe front lines and visibility
during this pandemic canliterally be a matter of life or
death.
Illuminated is committed todoing what we can to shine a
light, not only on the impactsand needs resulting from coven
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19 but we also want to shine alight on the stories and
examples of resilience andstrength and hope that is
absolutely a bound within Indiancountry.
Illuminated has put together astellar team of native producers
to bring you stories about andfrom native communities and
there's never been a better timeto start it then.
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Right now we're struggling justlike everyone else right now and
as native peoples we havepandemics in our blood memory.
However, as history and thismoment has shown native peoples
are strong, we are resilient, weare innovative and when we work
together there are no limits towhat we can overcome and create.
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So let's get on with it.
For our first episode you'llhear radio host Tara Gatewood
bring you a conversation withOglala Sioux tribal president
Julian Baer runner about hisforward thinking actions before
covert 19 reached his nation.
Also reporter Allison Herrerawill connect you with first
responders who are putting theirlives on the line to make sure
there are enough coven 19 testsfor anyone who needs one.
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And producer Monica brain willunpack the cares act, which has
$8 billion for tribes.
But first we'll share with you aconversation that I recently had
with Mark Trey hand, the editorof Indian country today.
I asked him what have been thebiggest impacts and surprises
Speaker 3 (05:58):
since the pandemic started?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
One of the first careers we did, and I'm really
glad because it put it inperspective for us, was to look
hard at the 1918 flu epidemicand how that impacted Indian
country.
When you look at it compared tothat, it's a very different
story because even though we'reconsumed right now with the
daily story about where thedisease is progressing, how many
people are impacted and all ofthat, the other side of that is
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how remarkably well we're doing.
This is really extraordinary.
The first models for COBIT 19kind of calculated a 50% uh,
social distancing rate.
And the United States is now atabout 90% social distancing.
And what that has resulted in isreally effective measures.
And across the U S it's about600,000 people have been
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infected.
Indian country is about 1400which is about a quarter of 1%
now having said that, it'simportant to note that the
numbers are probably higher thanthat because of the lack of
testing.
But nonetheless it's even whenyou look at kind of across the
board we're doing really well.
And I think that story, thestories of online resilience and
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people doing really remarkablethings, whether it be the social
distancing powwows to humorthat's just gone across social
media like crazy.
I think it's really shows kindof the ability of people to
fathom something like this andget through it.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
And so, you know, it is really remarkable to see that
the numbers are still relativelylow in Indian country.
And I know you guys have done alot of work and a lot of
coverage to kind of address thatissue just around data
collection.
Right.
And I wonder if you could justkind of give us a sense of why
is it hard to even get good dataon the number of, of COBIT 19
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cases in Indian country?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Sure.
Well, and this really goes tohow we need to rethink about the
Indian health system and eventhe word Indian health services
misleading because the Indianhealth service people have this
imagination of governmentdoctors, government clinics,
even uniforms because of thecommissioned officers Corps.
And that's true.
So part of the system, but it'snot even the majority anymore.
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The majority of the system isnow tribal run facilities.
In fact, if you look at thefacilities creating COBIT 19 the
Indian health service itself isonly 17% and that shift is
really remarkable.
I don't even think members ofCongress understand how
important it is that it reallyisn't tribal led system now.
And when you look at that intotal, it means tribes don't
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have report.
The numbers tie HS, so there'sno data collection in there.
Urban Indians aren't evencounted.
There's no mechanism for that.
And so right now it's allanecdotal and those two things
combined mean in order to getbetter data we have to change
the way we collect it.
And the way we think about theIndian health system
Speaker 3 (08:52):
when we kind of pivot and think about New Mexico,
Navajo nation in particular, butyou know, also, uh, Zia and San
Felippe Pueblo, right?
We're making some pretty bigheadlines recently and it seems
like New Mexico, um, is, is ahotspot.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Sure.
Well, I'll start with thepueblos.
Uh, when you think of how thisparticularly infection spreads,
uh, a Pueblo community is justbuilt for urban, very close,
very tight communities, lots offamily.
And because the infection canlinger for two weeks before you
even know you have it, five dayswhen it's current, people can
spread it to swear easily.
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And we're seeing that in thepueblos.
Uh, you mentioned two that havereally high infection rates.
In fact, uh, the infection ratesin those two villages are higher
than New York city's, which weall been reading about.
Navajo had a unique situationwhere there were a number of
people at a religious event.
And when they came back todifferent communities from that
event, they spread it and thenit just took off like that.
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That said, Navajo socialdistrict things has been more
aggressive than the generalpopulations, including the 56
hour weekend curfews.
And that's done a lot to sloweven the spread of it at Navajo.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
And so to kind of pivot now, I mean in looking at
sort of the, the other bigimpacts that coven 19 is having,
let's talk about the economicsof it.
Can you, what are, what are thebig stories happening there in
terms of the economic impact?
Speaker 4 (10:15):
We're not even past the introduction.
Uh, the economic impact is goingto be the story and it's going
to, I mean it's sooner or laterthere will be some medical
breakthrough, whether it betesting regime, poor, um,
ability to have a vaccine orother control measure.
That's inevitable.
It's just a question of when theeconomic impact is going to last
a long, long time.
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It's deep.
It's infrastructure related.
It's, um, when you think of howmany tribes across the country
have done a great job ofemploying through peoples,
through gaming and entertainmentand have that suddenly be gone,
it's just really longtermdisruptive on a scale that we've
never seen in our lifetimesbefore.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And could you, for our listeners that might not
have seen, there was a reallyimportant study that came out
from Harvard,
Speaker 4 (11:01):
right?
And they'd get for the firsttime kind of thing, kind of
pigged an Indian gross nationalproduct and that is$50 million
and some steps that that'sprobably still on the light
side.
But nonetheless, that shows theimpact.
And that study, they said thatbasically a million jobs are
lost and those million jobs, 90%of them are non-Indians who
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benefit from working at tribalcasinos or other related
industries.
There's interesting conversationgoing on about how when you look
at all this data that peoplethink about the underfunding of
the federal government, and in alot of ways this economic
activity that's happened inIndian country has been
subsidizing a lot of the federalactivities for decades.
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And now that it's reallyexposed, we're seeing firsthand
how much Indian country has doneon its own for quite awhile.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It's really remarkable.
So you know as though us want toexplore with you as well.
Just as a quick update, you knowI'm seeing a lot of stories that
federal funds that had beenapproved for for coven 19 sort
of emergency response efforts onthe ground that that funds still
aren't making it to the tribes.
Is that, is that really the caseand if so, what are you hearing
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and why?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
It's across the board and it's not just tribes.
The federal government is tryingto figure this out as it goes
along.
They've started to make paymentsto individuals and that will
include a lot of native Americanpeople.
That said, it's still kind ofjust a mess.
How do you ramp up spendingbillions of dollars without any
kind of plan or infrastructure?
And that's exactly what thefederal government is doing.
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The two areas that are mostimpactful for tribes right now
are payroll protection and a lotof organizations, including
Indian country today haveapplied for that to give some
relief.
For a couple of months for yoursalaried employees.
The big rub for there is thatthe treasury department decided
that casinos that employ lessthan 500 people, which under the
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law would qualify.
They made the regs so thattribes don't qualify and as I
mentioned, that's been such animportant economic activity that
as one person put it to me in aconversation the other day, we
cannot afford to let this onego.
We're going back to Congress toget a fix because it's so
directly impacts our future.
The second one is an$8 billiontribal relief fund and there's
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also$2 billion being pumped intothe Indian health service and
the Bureau of Indian affairs.
The$8 billion was supposed to goto tribal governments, fact it's
name to tribal government relieffund and an early controversy is
that in the definition in thelaw, they cite the Indian self
determination and educationalassistance act and that act
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includes by definition Alaskanative corporations.
When the law was passed, theywere even with that definition,
tribes were hoping that theregulations would be clear that
it was for governmental servicesand not for Alaska native
corporations, but the interiordepartment and the treasury
department made it very clearthat they do consider the last
Canadian corporations in thesame category and want to fund
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them for that.
Uh, this becomes very complexfor tribes, partly because
Alaska native tribes would liketo apply mostly village
councils.
And on top of that you haveAlaska native villages, Alaska
native village, regionalcorporations, and then Alaska
native regional corporations.
So the same constituent group,basic complete could apply for
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the services three times asopposed to lower 48 tribes that
could just do it once.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
And that's a, a really big fight playing out in
this very moment in time.
And I'm, I'm guessing this isgoing to be the story to watch
this coming week, right?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yeah.
And it's turned really ugly.
And it's interesting because,um, one of the ways that I think
people are missing this is thatone, the Alaska native claims
settlement act and the Indianself-determination act were both
passed into law.
There really wasn't Alaskatribes.
A lot of the reservations thatexisted turned over their lands
to corporations.
So there's a different historythat needs to be played out that
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Alaska hasn't really solveditself yet.
What's the role of tribalgovernments in a society that's
built around corporations?
And that is a very differentconversation than what do we do
at this pool of money and how dowe solve it?
And until you had that firstone, you never can get to the
second one.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Well, as we kind of think about wrapping up, you
know, I wanted to get yourperspectives because you know,
illuminating our mission isreally about amplifying native
voices in stories and issues,really to fight against the
profounder ratio and visibilityof people, of native peoples in,
in modern American society.
Right?
That really ends up feeling biasand racism and affects us in all
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different ways.
And so, you know, we launchedthis podcast during this, this
moment, this pandemic to reallyensure that, you know, we can do
everything we can to helpamplify again, native voices and
what's happening in Indiancountry with regard to coven 19
and, and one of the things that,you know, I've been wondering
about in talking with you, youguys have done such an amazing
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job on your reporting, but youknow, what's your viewpoint
over, as you look across thespectrum of, of media and
journalism right now, are youseeing this story in Indian
country being covered?
Tell us what you're seeing outthere.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Sure.
Well first I should mention ourbig venture.
We took this moment to launch anew national television program
and uh, within the first week wesecure prime time and it's at
7:00 PM on FNX network.
But just today we've got acouple of other major networks
better talking to us aboutadding more stations.
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So we actually have a chance ofgetting into the PBS national
schedule very, very quickly,unbelievably quickly.
And I think that's another wayto kind of get that story out
there.
Maybe in general, and you know I, I shouldn't admit this in a
podcast because it's permanent,but I really given up on trying
to worry about what the nationalmedia is going to do.
They're never going to getaround until there's a diversity
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of voices in the media.
They're just not going tounderstand the context and the
larger picture and some do itvery well, but it's really rare
and you get this smile.
When that I frankly, one of thethings that really concerns me
is how we share those stories.
When the media does the storythat is a grade level, see
people still share it on socialmedia because they're so pleased
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to see themselves and I think wehave to start ignoring the media
like they've been ignoring us.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
[inaudible]
Speaker 2 (17:19):
as this podcast continues, you'll hear more from
Mark and others at Indiancountry today who are reporting
on what's happening to and innative communities.
You catch all the amazingreporting they're doing as well
as their brand new daily newsshow at Indian country today.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
[inaudible]
Speaker 2 (17:42):
you may recognize the voice we have next.
Tara Gatewood.
She is is a lot of Pueblo andthe host of native calling.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
It's a live call and radio show that's been on the
air for 25 years.
Here's her conversation withOglala Sioux president, Julianne
bear runner.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
We are asking you to help us stop the possible spread
by taking pre cautionarymeasures.
Stay in your home, exercisesocial distancing.
Stay six feet from others whilein public.
If you are sick, stay home andso isolate.
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Please take coping.
19 seriously essential travel.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
You're hearing part of the Oglala Lakota nations
effort to curb the spread of thenovel Corona virus.
It's from one of the tribesFacebook videos highlighting
efforts of their coven 19response task force.
It's the sound that echoedthrough the community several
weeks ago as tribal servicevehicles made their way through
the different villages carryingthe message of staying safe and
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vigilant against the Coronavirus.
Julian Baer runners, the 43rdOglala Sioux tribes president.
He says this approach is vital.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Some people don't have the radio.
Some people don't have socialmedia and they rely on just, you
know the word on the streets.
So, you know, we have taken thatventure of going out and
actually doing this throughoutthe communities.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Bear under said at first they were sharing this
message from the back of atruck, but not everyone was
hearing the cautionary dispatch.
So they took it up a notch.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
We brought in our medical personnel who brought in
a rescue truck that would soundthe siren and that was drawing
the people's attention becausethey were hearing the sirens.
So they were coming to thewindow, they were coming to the
doors and they were standingthere and they were listening
and it's been working.
It's been getting a lot of theattention and the message out to
the people.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
And for some native nations, getting the word out on
the severity of the virus hashelped keep the number of coven
19 positive cases low.
And in some cases at zero, bearunder said, staying ahead of the
virus is critical given the manyobstacles his tribe faces when
there isn't a pandemic.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
We have limited housing, we have, uh, you know,
we have, what, four respiratorshere?
IHS, we have a limited manpower,uh, within IHS.
We have, you know, our, ourambulance service that is very,
uh, always underfunded.
So, you know, we have a lot ofissues at stake and due to the
shortage of housing, we have,you know, sometimes a large
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influx of family members livingin one household for one person
is to contract that and takethat home.
You know, we look at maybe noteven having to quarantine just
one household, but you know, maypossibly quarantine the full
community, which you know, isgoing to be, you know, that's
going to be a great hardship onus as a people.
So I'm, I'm hoping that we canreally stay a where we're at
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today, but you know, also just,you know, watching and praying
for our, our relatives that are,you know, currently experiencing
these hardships and learningfrom the things that they're
doing to help to implement, toensure that we're ready here.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
The Oglala Sioux tribe was one of the first
sovereign tribal nations in thecountry to take action on March
eight, the tribe issued anexecutive order establishing a
response team and suspendingtravel for the tribes employees.
The order also stronglyrecommended that the general
public refrain and postponevisits to their reservation.
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It also urged tribal members tolimit off reservation travel.
I asked him why the tribedecided to make this declaration
during a time when other stateand tribal entities had yet to
move forward in this way.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
Anything that I can do to, to protect our tribe, to
protect the people that theland, you know, is always number
one for me.
And, um, it was challenging, youknow, to have to, you know, but
again, you know, relying andsitting down with our top
officials to decide is this theright way?
Is this something that we shoulddo?
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And you know, quickly, you know,developing, like I said, we
developed this response team andthis response team, I suspect
the fed has been phenomenal in,in bringing information forward
to staying on top of thenational news as well as, you
know, with what CDC is puttingout and throughout the nation,
you know, what the rest of theworld is doing and bringing that
together and bringing thatforward to the tribal council.
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And you know, in the tribalcouncil moving forward to enact
these policies and theseprocedures and these temporary
laws that we have to put ineffect to protect our people.
So, you know, if it was adifficult decision, but it was a
decision that had to be made.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
The first notion to spring into action against the
Corona virus came a week earlierfor president baroner.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
I was at the reservation economic summit,
which caused me to justquarantine myself in my room and
you know, and take thepreventative measures.
And I got an immediate flighthome and caused me to go into
quarantine myself to, to ensurethat I was not infected.
And you know, rapidly sit downwith our team here of officials
Speaker 5 (22:53):
with what the Corona virus is bringing to our native
nations.
Our tribal leaders are beingasked to go head on with a
severe health emergency thattops any they've seen in their
time, including presidentbaroner.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
This was probably never something that I would
have ever imagined, you know,that would have fall on the
responsibility of any triballeader or any leader, you know,
for that matter.
However, you know, when I cameinto this position, you know, I
knew that there was gonna be,um, hardships and hard times.
And you know, I, I came in herewith a, on a, on a spiritual
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level, on a prayerful level.
And that's, you know, that's theway that I've been handling it.
And through that process, youknow, things that I've prayed
about in the past have beenhappening.
Things that I've been, you know,I'm being put in the right place
at the right time.
And it's been very humbling, butit's been very, uh, rewarding,
you know, for us as a peoplefrom those things that I prayed
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about in the beginning to put meto where I'm at today.
Now, with that being said, youknow, trying to, you know, keep
that spiritual foundation of whowe are as a people is the
forefront and the utmostimportant thing that I must do
as a tribal leader.
And to have that faith, youknow, to lead the people in, in
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that manner.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Bear run or added with everything that's going on
because of the virus.
He's also seen a transformationof his tribe.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
This time has really brought our people together.
You know, I hear I'll a lot ofyoung people saying, you know,
this is really grounded us to aone two to be parents to, you
know, really bond within withour family and our structure and
to learn to, you know, put theireveryday lines away and, and,
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and really, you know, just growas a family and as a, as a
nation, you know, to, to bringback that, uh, the original way
of life, you know, to reallyjust to stay home and develop
that family structure withinthemselves.
This has been very beneficialfor them.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
He also had a message for all native nations.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Okay.
I just want to again, stress,you know, the, as native nations
to remember who you are, toremember the things that we've
come through, to reiterate whatthe chiefs of our tribe here,
the Oglala Sioux tribe have toldus, was to, to continue to pray,
to hold that faith and in thoseprayers and to continue forward
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and that we too will overcomethis as we have everything else.
You know, and that just to lookout for one another and to, to
learn to learn from what othernations are, are battling and
what they're up against and whatthey're going through.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
You can catch Tara every weekday from one to 2:00
PM Eastern time on 70 publicradio stations and at native
America, calling.com.
Up next is Alison Herrera.
She's a climate editor atColorado public radio and she
has her alone Salonen
Speaker 1 (26:05):
[inaudible]
Speaker 7 (26:05):
when 40 year old nurse make them Frazier heard
about the new coronavirusspreading and Wu Han China.
At the end of 2019 she sprunginto action.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
You know, we started hearing starts out of the state
of Washington.
That's when I really startedgetting concerned because you
know, I have relatives.
My, my mom still is back on thereservation with my uncles and
my cousins and my aunts that Ithought, okay, I need to start
preparing.
That's what if this compare.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
Frasier packed up her car and took her four year old
twins to stay with her family inSanders, Arizona on the Navajo
reservation.
That's where she's from.
She said it just felt safer.
Speaker 8 (26:45):
I knew there they would be a little bit better, um
, isolated from say the city and, and then we made arrangements
for us to bring supplies andfood and things like that to, to
get them prepared as well as myrelatives there.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
Frazier went to work.
She and her colleague Jessica[inaudible] who is from Zuni
Pueblo and is a physician'sassistant have been testing and
screening people for coven 19 ata drive through facility
organized by Presbyterian healthcenter in Albuquerque, New
Mexico.
During the last few weeks theywere testing almost 800 patients
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a day.
Jessica says it's a privilege tobe working on the front lines.
Speaker 9 (27:24):
We are one of the top five cities to be testing the
largest amount per capita acrossthe United States.
We have been the singleorganization that has been able
to test 40% of our new Mexicanpopulation for COBIT 19.
So we're very happy to providethat service and um, be able to
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provide any data to ourcommunity.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
And data is important.
A recent breakdown of casesalong racial lines in New Mexico
shows that more than 35% ofcases are among native American
communities in the state.
Jessica says that some of thechallenges communities face have
to do with the number of testsavailable.
Speaker 9 (28:09):
So a lot of the barriers come down with the
number of test kits.
Um, then often the, whether theyare six 38 contracted
independent or an IHS facility,it's the test, the number of
tests kits available.
Usually that number is only afraction of what their
population as a community is,
Speaker 7 (28:27):
make him sees those same barriers.
She said the number of cases ofcoven 19 have doubled and
tripled almost every day.
That's when tribes in New Mexicoreject to the department of
health for help.
And that's how she got involved.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
So the DOH reached out to us because we'd been so
successful with our screeningsite.
Um, and we said, let's do it.
Let's get out there and help.
I think for, um, myself and Ican as well as Jessica.
Um, it was, you know, beingnative people and being able to
provide the service, um, wasimportant to us because when we
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understand the lack of resourcesthat is out in Indian country,
Speaker 7 (29:10):
make them set.
Another challenge is thelanguage.
She's talked to elders in hercommunity who say most of the
information about coven 19 is inEnglish and it needs to be a
Navajo too.
Another challenge is the conceptof social distancing.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
He's social distancing and having to say,
Hey, listen, you can't visityour relatives right now because
of this disease, this disease.
Um, it is really hard to educatetribal members, um, and have
them understand that
Speaker 7 (29:41):
make and Jessica acknowledge the seriousness of
this situation, but feel likebeing out there with the
community is the right thing todo despite the risks.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
Absolutely.
There's always that fear.
Um, just like a, a soldier goinginto more, right?
There's always that fear andthere's always that risk.
But part of it is this is Isigned up to be a clinician and
this is my battle that I have tofight, but I have to make sure
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that I'm protecting myself.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
Make them as glad both her children are spending
this time with relatives anddoing the things that she did
when she grew up in Sanders.
Speaker 8 (30:23):
They're, you know, around horses around what I kind
of, I grew up with.
And so they have the opportunityduring this time to learn their
culture.
They are learning to speak thelanguage because they're with
my, my relatives.
And so, um, it's kind of anopportune time for them even
though the rest of the world isin chaos.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
Both acknowledged that it will be a while before
things go back to quote unquotenormal.
And that life after thispandemic passes will be very
different.
The lesson is to reflect onwhat's most important.
Speaker 10 (31:11):
[inaudible]
Speaker 11 (31:12):
well, hopefully it's a big event.
There's a lot of indigenouscommunities around the world who
are suffering from this of 19virus and we are not exempt from
it unfortunately.
Yes, it's a big event.
This is the thing that I fearmost is that a lot of folks
don't understand it the way theyshould.
Speaker 12 (31:34):
Hey everyone.
I'm Monica brain journalist andradio producer.
I'm a sinner.
Boyne and Lakota, you just heardUnited States representative Deb
Holland, she's Laguna Pueblo andone of the first native women to
be elected to the house.
Holland is home right now inAlbuquerque, but at the end of
March, she and three othernatives in the house of
representatives voted on themost recent stimulus package.
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The cares act, and it's my jobto give you everything you need
to know about it and what itmeans for native America.
It's the largest stimuluspackage ever passed.
The hope is that the two point$2trillion will help with the
crisis created from the covert19 pandemic.
It's not just money for medicalcare.
It also involves a lot relatedto the economy because our
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economy is directly tied to thiscrisis and right now it's not
doing too well, and many tribesand tribal citizens are
struggling as well.
Most of our casinos are closedand the Indian health service is
already chronically underfunded.
A 2018 us governmentaccountability office found that
IHS spends an average of$4,000per patient.
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To put that into perspective.
The department of veteransaffairs spends 8,000 and
Medicare spends 13,000 perpatient, so this pandemic is
putting an already strugglingsystem in a worst place.
That's where the stimuluspackage may help.
So of this enormous two point$2trillion pie, there's 8 billion
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for tribes.
That's a lot of money.
But the thing is tribes andnative organizations lobbied for
a lot more.
Will this 8 billion be enough tohelp tribes?
Probably not, but it's a startand there's going to be more
legislation in the pipeline.
Before we get into the tribalprovisions, I wanted to mention
a few things that could help youpersonally.
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There's a stimulus check comingto most Americans.
Think of it as an extra per capfrom chairman, uncle Sam.
The only catches that you haveto make sure that you filed your
2018 in 2019 taxes and there'san income threshold, so the more
you make, the less you get.
Couples who make over$150,000 ayear won't see a stimulus check.
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The legislation has a bunch morethat could really help during
this challenging time.
Weekly unemployment paymentswill increase by$600 also gig
and freelance workers might beeligible for an employment as
well, which is not usually thecase.
The issue right now is that thesystem is overburdened and many
people are waiting on hold forhours and hours are getting
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booted off the online systemsbecause so many people are
trying to apply at once.
Some good news is that taxesaren't due until July 15th and
the government won't becollecting payments or interest
on federal student loans untilSeptember.
If you own a small business, youcould get an emergency loan or
grant to help with expensesincluding payroll and if you
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already have a small businessloan, payments and interest are
suspended for six months.
Initially it seemed like tribalcasinos that had less than 500
employees were going to qualifyfor small business relief under
this package, but the smallbusiness administration put up
some guidelines and it said thatcasinos are not eligible for
this program.
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President Trump said he wouldtake a look at it, so we'll see
how it plays out.
Okay.
Let's get into the nitty grittyof what exactly is going to help
tribes, and bear with me on thisone.
It can get confusing, but I'mgoing to do my best to make it
simple and clear.
Some of the headlines have saidthat there's 8 billion for
tribes and others have said 10billion.
8 billion is for tribes, and theother 2 billion is for agencies
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that support tribes like theIndian health service, the
Bureau of Indian affairs, andthe Bureau of Indian education.
When big packages come from thefederal government, like
disaster relief, everybody linesup to get their share.
States, cities, municipalities,and organizations.
Tribes routinely have to standin the same line.
Is everybody else competing witheveryone else?
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So a tribe that maybe hasthousand citizens might be
competing with a city that has50,000 people and the resources
to submit a better applicationfor funding advocates in Indian
country.
I've been saying for years thattribes shouldn't have to
compete.
That is part of the trustresponsibility to provide for
tribes that we are separate.
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So$8 billion for tribes is agood deal.
Here's a few numbers on theagencies that are also getting
money in the package.
There's 300 million for housing,which is helpful to address
overcrowding situations innative America, particularly
during the time when we reallyneed to have extra space on the
education front.
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69 million is going to theBureau of Indian education and
20 million is for tribalcolleges and food distribution.
Or as some of you might know,Kamado is getting 100 million
each side.
Republicans, Democrats and thewhite house came to the table
with different numbers and thefinal compromise was
specifically 8 billion fortribes.
I asked us representative, TomCole, who is Chickasaw about the
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different numbers being thrownaround about who came to the
table, asking for what,
Speaker 11 (36:45):
you know, who was on what side, where really doesn't
matter.
A lot of legislative negotiationa lot is can you educate, uh,
people that have a differentpoint of view and move them in
your direction.
And I would say in this one, webroadly did, and I can't think
of another instance in any kindof package where we had anything
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like$8 billion going to tribalgovernments to mitigate the
damages that both Corona virusescaused them directly and then
the economic impact on theireconomies and their, uh, know
base for supporting their owntribal government services.
So is it enough now?
It's never enough.
Um, but is it a huge improvementover what we've had before?
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Yes, it is.
And is it primarily a bipartisanCheevan no question.
Speaker 12 (37:36):
Did you have to educate the white house about
the importance of this money?
Speaker 11 (37:39):
Well, let's just say we worked with the white house.
Yes.
Uh, and yeah, we had some goodhelp in the white house.
Again, uh, if we had not hadpeople willing to listen.
Uh, frankly, one of the personsI worked with was the new chief
of staff, Mark Meadows, who usedto represent, uh, Eastern bandit
Cherokees in his congressionalseat, uh, you know, has more
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awareness, uh, about tribalissues.
And because of that, uh, thanmost people know.
And he was extremely helpful inmoving that number in the right
direction.
Speaker 12 (38:11):
I also talked with CEO of the national Congress of
American Indians, Kevin Alice,who's Forrest County
Pottawattamie community aboutall these numbers.
I asked him how far 8 billioncould go during this time of
great need and he said 8 billionwasn't going to be nearly
enough.
He also brought up a big concernhe has about the language in the
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bill that dictates how tribesare going to be allowed to use
the money.
It's only supposed to be usedfor expenses that occur as a
result of coven 19
Speaker 6 (38:42):
the statute says necessary expenditures because
of COBIT 19 that are unbudgetedin relation to the tribes most
recent budget and occur duringthis timeframe.
Speaker 12 (38:54):
This means that tribes can only use the money
for expenses related to coven 19they cannot replace the money
lost due to coven 19 like casinorevenues.
For example, if a tribe runs asenior center with profits from
the casino, they can't use themoney from the$8 billion pot for
the senior centers.
Regular expenses.
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They could use the money to buyextra masks and scrubs, but not
for food unless it was extra asa result of the pandemic.
This puts a lot of bureaucraticred tape on funds that tribes
desperately need.
Right now.
Alice says there might be a wayto get around this if tribes
create brand new coven 19emergency budgets, but it all
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comes down to how the usdepartment of treasury
interprets the law and divviesup the money.
One interesting thing is thatnone of the money allocated to
tribes can be distributed as aper cap check, but the fact
remains tribes will need moremoney on native America calling
United States Senator Tom Udall,who's from New Mexico said he
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expected there to be more billsand more money for tribes.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
My expectation is we have to come back to this again.
That's all the talk.
We're going to have anotherbill.
Uh, we don't know, matter aweek.
Um, and the problems we'rehaving with this bill, whatever
they are, if their resources are, if there are other issues, we
will try to take care of them.
And the next bill
Speaker 12 (40:19):
on the house side, I asked representative Deb Holland
when she will go back to fightfor more money for tribes.
Speaker 11 (40:25):
We're fighting for it right now.
Zoom and through our, you know,our conference calls and I have
half of my staff is in DC, halfof my staff is here in New
Mexico, so we're all, uh, everyday we're on the phone together.
We're each reaching out, we'remaking phone calls to
constituents and phone calls tovarious, you know, organizations
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just to make sure that we'removing the ball forward as we
should.
I, we're not losing a moment on,you know, every single moment
that is past, I should say iswell spent, uh, working to make
sure that we can get throughthis.
Speaker 12 (41:04):
I didn't think you were back in Albuquerque kicking
back and hanging out.
Speaker 11 (41:11):
No, no, not at all.
Not at all.
In fact, I haven't, uh, youknow, I came back from DC after
the last vote and governor LujanGrisham, there's a big sign at
the airport that says, if you'recoming in from another state,
you have to solve isolate fortwo weeks.
So I'm, I've been at my house,uh, away from everyone.
(41:32):
I'm not to go anywhere.
So I'm here and, uh, there'snothing else better to do than
to work on making sure thateverybody can get through this.
Speaker 12 (41:42):
Is it harder to wheel and deal over zoom?
Speaker 11 (41:47):
You know, sometimes I feel like it is.
Um, because look, I'm on thehouse oversight committee and
uh, if we saw that the U S youknow, that the administration
was messing up on the fundingpackage, we could haul them in
to the hearing room and ask themquestions about it.
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Right.
And, um, and we can't do thatright now.
So, um, it is a bit moredifficult to, you know, get your
point across into, um, you know,we've written a lot of letters,
we've signed on to many, manyletters that are circulating
around to make our point and toprotect our people.
Speaker 12 (42:28):
So there you have it, the most recent stimulus
package and what it can mean foryou and your tribe will be
keeping an eye on this as ourpodcast continues.
Thanks for listening.
God,
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Monica is a sinner.
Boyne and Lakota and she'srecently started her own podcast
called natives on a budget.
You can check itout@nativesonabudget.com well,
that'll do it for our very firstepisode of the illuminated on
air podcast.
If you like what you've heardtoday, please consider giving us
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This episode was produced andhosted by Tara Gatewood, Alison
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Our executive producer isHeather Rae and our operations
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and thoughts to all of our lovedones impacted by these world
events.
We'll see you next time.
[inaudible] [inaudible].
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to the first episode of Illuminative on air.
I'm crystal echo Hawk.
I'm your host and founder andexecutive director of
illuminated.
I want to take a couple ofminutes to tell you a little bit
about myself illuminative and toset the table so to speak about
why we are embarking on thisjourney with our new podcast.
First, I'm a citizen of thePawnee nation located in
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Oklahoma.
I'm also a mom, an auntie, asister, and a lifelong organizer
and advocate for nativechildren, families and
communities.
As for illuminative, we are anational nonprofit organization
dedicated to amplifyingcontemporary native voices,
stories and issues in popculture, media and K through 12
education.
We do this work in order tofight the profound and
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visibility toxic stereotypes andfalse narratives that feel bias
and racism against nativepeoples.
Illuminated was born out ofsomething called the reclaiming
native truth project.
A project that I co-led between2016 and 2018 it was a three
point$3 million project.
That was the largest publicopinion research project ever
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conducted about native peoples.
Our groundbreaking researchconducted by some of the top
minds in the country exploredone of the dominant perceptions
that Americans have about nativepeoples.
Why do they have theseperceptions and how do these
perceptions play out in some ofour most powerful institutions
in this country like the courtsand Congress, as well as in
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media education, philanthropy,and in just in everyday life,
the findings were astounding.
We found that nearly 80% ofAmericans know little to nothing
about native peoples, and asignificant percentage of
Americans aren't entirely surethat native peoples even exist
anymore.
72% of Americans also rarely ornever encounter information
(02:01):
about native Americans in theirdaily lives.
Our research found that nearly90% of schools in this country
do not teach about nativeAmericans past 1900 and our
representation in TV and film isless than 0.04% so what does
this all mean?
It means that contemporarynative peoples largely do not
exist in the consciousness ofAmericans and in key
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institutions and within powerholders in this country.
The consequences of thisinvisibility are profound.
As our research found.
According to top socialpsychologists, we worked with dr
Stephanie Freiburg of theuniversity of Michigan and dr
Arianne Easten of the universityof California at Berkeley found
that this invisibility fuelsbias and that plainly spoke in
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visibility is the modern form ofracism against native Americans.
It has real consequences thatoften mean that native Americans
are left out of key pieces oflegislation and policies that
affect lives, our livelihood,our health, and our rights as
citizens of sovereign tribalnations.
Our research also found on theflip side of this profound and
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visibility are toxicstereotypes, false narratives
and myths that also feel biasfrom racist sports mascots to
the perpetual myths that nativeAmericans don't pay taxes, that
we just get checks for beingnative while also enriching
ourselves off a tribal gaming.
Our research found that thesetoxic stereotypes in in miss
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fuel bias and systemicdiscrimination.
As we face this unprecedentedcrisis of the COBIT 19 pandemic,
we are immersed in wall to wallmedia coverage about the
devastating impact that coven 19is having on communities across
the United States, especially inlow income and communities of
color.
Indian country and nativecommunities are no exception.
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However, media coverage haslargely been sparse and even as
coven 19 cases are ticking upinto major hotspots in tribal
communities such as the Navajonation and in some pueblos in
New Mexico, we've seen verylittle coverage.
We've also seen instances ofoutright misinformation about
federal assistance to nativecommunities in this moment.
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It is critical to ensure that weare amplifying what is happening
in native communities and toensure that we're hearing the
stories of native peoples fromthe front lines and visibility
during this pandemic canliterally be a matter of life or
death.
Illuminated is committed todoing what we can to shine a
light, not only on the impactsand needs resulting from coven
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19 but we also want to shine alight on the stories and
examples of resilience andstrength and hope that is
absolutely a bound within Indiancountry.
Illuminated has put together astellar team of native producers
to bring you stories about andfrom native communities and
there's never been a better timeto start it then.
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Right now we're struggling justlike everyone else right now and
as native peoples we havepandemics in our blood memory.
However, as history and thismoment has shown native peoples
are strong, we are resilient, weare innovative and when we work
together there are no limits towhat we can overcome and create.
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So let's get on with it.
For our first episode you'llhear radio host Tara Gatewood
bring you a conversation withOglala Sioux tribal president
Julian Baer runner about hisforward thinking actions before
covert 19 reached his nation.
Also reporter Allison Herrerawill connect you with first
responders who are putting theirlives on the line to make sure
there are enough coven 19 testsfor anyone who needs one.
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And producer Monica brain willunpack the cares act, which has
$8 billion for tribes.
But first we'll share with you aconversation that I recently had
with Mark Trey hand, the editorof Indian country today.
I asked him what have been thebiggest impacts and surprises
Speaker 3 (05:58):
since the pandemic started?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
One of the first careers we did, and I'm really
glad because it put it inperspective for us, was to look
hard at the 1918 flu epidemicand how that impacted Indian
country.
When you look at it compared tothat, it's a very different
story because even though we'reconsumed right now with the
daily story about where thedisease is progressing, how many
people are impacted and all ofthat, the other side of that is
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how remarkably well we're doing.
This is really extraordinary.
The first models for COBIT 19kind of calculated a 50% uh,
social distancing rate.
And the United States is now atabout 90% social distancing.
And what that has resulted in isreally effective measures.
And across the U S it's about600,000 people have been
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infected.
Indian country is about 1400which is about a quarter of 1%
now having said that, it'simportant to note that the
numbers are probably higher thanthat because of the lack of
testing.
But nonetheless it's even whenyou look at kind of across the
board we're doing really well.
And I think that story, thestories of online resilience and
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people doing really remarkablethings, whether it be the social
distancing powwows to humorthat's just gone across social
media like crazy.
I think it's really shows kindof the ability of people to
fathom something like this andget through it.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
And so, you know, it is really remarkable to see that
the numbers are still relativelylow in Indian country.
And I know you guys have done alot of work and a lot of
coverage to kind of address thatissue just around data
collection.
Right.
And I wonder if you could justkind of give us a sense of why
is it hard to even get good dataon the number of, of COBIT 19
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cases in Indian country?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Sure.
Well, and this really goes tohow we need to rethink about the
Indian health system and eventhe word Indian health services
misleading because the Indianhealth service people have this
imagination of governmentdoctors, government clinics,
even uniforms because of thecommissioned officers Corps.
And that's true.
So part of the system, but it'snot even the majority anymore.
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The majority of the system isnow tribal run facilities.
In fact, if you look at thefacilities creating COBIT 19 the
Indian health service itself isonly 17% and that shift is
really remarkable.
I don't even think members ofCongress understand how
important it is that it reallyisn't tribal led system now.
And when you look at that intotal, it means tribes don't
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have report.
The numbers tie HS, so there'sno data collection in there.
Urban Indians aren't evencounted.
There's no mechanism for that.
And so right now it's allanecdotal and those two things
combined mean in order to getbetter data we have to change
the way we collect it.
And the way we think about theIndian health system
Speaker 3 (08:52):
when we kind of pivot and think about New Mexico,
Navajo nation in particular, butyou know, also, uh, Zia and San
Felippe Pueblo, right?
We're making some pretty bigheadlines recently and it seems
like New Mexico, um, is, is ahotspot.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Sure.
Well, I'll start with thepueblos.
Uh, when you think of how thisparticularly infection spreads,
uh, a Pueblo community is justbuilt for urban, very close,
very tight communities, lots offamily.
And because the infection canlinger for two weeks before you
even know you have it, five dayswhen it's current, people can
spread it to swear easily.
(09:27):
And we're seeing that in thepueblos.
Uh, you mentioned two that havereally high infection rates.
In fact, uh, the infection ratesin those two villages are higher
than New York city's, which weall been reading about.
Navajo had a unique situationwhere there were a number of
people at a religious event.
And when they came back todifferent communities from that
event, they spread it and thenit just took off like that.
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That said, Navajo socialdistrict things has been more
aggressive than the generalpopulations, including the 56
hour weekend curfews.
And that's done a lot to sloweven the spread of it at Navajo.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
And so to kind of pivot now, I mean in looking at
sort of the, the other bigimpacts that coven 19 is having,
let's talk about the economicsof it.
Can you, what are, what are thebig stories happening there in
terms of the economic impact?
Speaker 4 (10:15):
We're not even past the introduction.
Uh, the economic impact is goingto be the story and it's going
to, I mean it's sooner or laterthere will be some medical
breakthrough, whether it betesting regime, poor, um,
ability to have a vaccine orother control measure.
That's inevitable.
It's just a question of when theeconomic impact is going to last
a long, long time.
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It's deep.
It's infrastructure related.
It's, um, when you think of howmany tribes across the country
have done a great job ofemploying through peoples,
through gaming and entertainmentand have that suddenly be gone,
it's just really longtermdisruptive on a scale that we've
never seen in our lifetimesbefore.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And could you, for our listeners that might not
have seen, there was a reallyimportant study that came out
from Harvard,
Speaker 4 (11:01):
right?
And they'd get for the firsttime kind of thing, kind of
pigged an Indian gross nationalproduct and that is$50 million
and some steps that that'sprobably still on the light
side.
But nonetheless, that shows theimpact.
And that study, they said thatbasically a million jobs are
lost and those million jobs, 90%of them are non-Indians who
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benefit from working at tribalcasinos or other related
industries.
There's interesting conversationgoing on about how when you look
at all this data that peoplethink about the underfunding of
the federal government, and in alot of ways this economic
activity that's happened inIndian country has been
subsidizing a lot of the federalactivities for decades.
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And now that it's reallyexposed, we're seeing firsthand
how much Indian country has doneon its own for quite awhile.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It's really remarkable.
So you know as though us want toexplore with you as well.
Just as a quick update, you knowI'm seeing a lot of stories that
federal funds that had beenapproved for for coven 19 sort
of emergency response efforts onthe ground that that funds still
aren't making it to the tribes.
Is that, is that really the caseand if so, what are you hearing
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and why?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
It's across the board and it's not just tribes.
The federal government is tryingto figure this out as it goes
along.
They've started to make paymentsto individuals and that will
include a lot of native Americanpeople.
That said, it's still kind ofjust a mess.
How do you ramp up spendingbillions of dollars without any
kind of plan or infrastructure?
And that's exactly what thefederal government is doing.
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The two areas that are mostimpactful for tribes right now
are payroll protection and a lotof organizations, including
Indian country today haveapplied for that to give some
relief.
For a couple of months for yoursalaried employees.
The big rub for there is thatthe treasury department decided
that casinos that employ lessthan 500 people, which under the
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law would qualify.
They made the regs so thattribes don't qualify and as I
mentioned, that's been such animportant economic activity that
as one person put it to me in aconversation the other day, we
cannot afford to let this onego.
We're going back to Congress toget a fix because it's so
directly impacts our future.
The second one is an$8 billiontribal relief fund and there's
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also$2 billion being pumped intothe Indian health service and
the Bureau of Indian affairs.
The$8 billion was supposed to goto tribal governments, fact it's
name to tribal government relieffund and an early controversy is
that in the definition in thelaw, they cite the Indian self
determination and educationalassistance act and that act
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includes by definition Alaskanative corporations.
When the law was passed, theywere even with that definition,
tribes were hoping that theregulations would be clear that
it was for governmental servicesand not for Alaska native
corporations, but the interiordepartment and the treasury
department made it very clearthat they do consider the last
Canadian corporations in thesame category and want to fund
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them for that.
Uh, this becomes very complexfor tribes, partly because
Alaska native tribes would liketo apply mostly village
councils.
And on top of that you haveAlaska native villages, Alaska
native village, regionalcorporations, and then Alaska
native regional corporations.
So the same constituent group,basic complete could apply for
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the services three times asopposed to lower 48 tribes that
could just do it once.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
And that's a, a really big fight playing out in
this very moment in time.
And I'm, I'm guessing this isgoing to be the story to watch
this coming week, right?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yeah.
And it's turned really ugly.
And it's interesting because,um, one of the ways that I think
people are missing this is thatone, the Alaska native claims
settlement act and the Indianself-determination act were both
passed into law.
There really wasn't Alaskatribes.
A lot of the reservations thatexisted turned over their lands
to corporations.
So there's a different historythat needs to be played out that
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Alaska hasn't really solveditself yet.
What's the role of tribalgovernments in a society that's
built around corporations?
And that is a very differentconversation than what do we do
at this pool of money and how dowe solve it?
And until you had that firstone, you never can get to the
second one.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Well, as we kind of think about wrapping up, you
know, I wanted to get yourperspectives because you know,
illuminating our mission isreally about amplifying native
voices in stories and issues,really to fight against the
profounder ratio and visibilityof people, of native peoples in,
in modern American society.
Right?
That really ends up feeling biasand racism and affects us in all
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different ways.
And so, you know, we launchedthis podcast during this, this
moment, this pandemic to reallyensure that, you know, we can do
everything we can to helpamplify again, native voices and
what's happening in Indiancountry with regard to coven 19
and, and one of the things that,you know, I've been wondering
about in talking with you, youguys have done such an amazing
(15:56):
job on your reporting, but youknow, what's your viewpoint
over, as you look across thespectrum of, of media and
journalism right now, are youseeing this story in Indian
country being covered?
Tell us what you're seeing outthere.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Sure.
Well first I should mention ourbig venture.
We took this moment to launch anew national television program
and uh, within the first week wesecure prime time and it's at
7:00 PM on FNX network.
But just today we've got acouple of other major networks
better talking to us aboutadding more stations.
(16:28):
So we actually have a chance ofgetting into the PBS national
schedule very, very quickly,unbelievably quickly.
And I think that's another wayto kind of get that story out
there.
Maybe in general, and you know I, I shouldn't admit this in a
podcast because it's permanent,but I really given up on trying
to worry about what the nationalmedia is going to do.
They're never going to getaround until there's a diversity
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of voices in the media.
They're just not going tounderstand the context and the
larger picture and some do itvery well, but it's really rare
and you get this smile.
When that I frankly, one of thethings that really concerns me
is how we share those stories.
When the media does the storythat is a grade level, see
people still share it on socialmedia because they're so pleased
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to see themselves and I think wehave to start ignoring the media
like they've been ignoring us.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
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Speaker 2 (17:19):
as this podcast continues, you'll hear more from
Mark and others at Indiancountry today who are reporting
on what's happening to and innative communities.
You catch all the amazingreporting they're doing as well
as their brand new daily newsshow at Indian country today.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
[inaudible]
Speaker 2 (17:42):
you may recognize the voice we have next.
Tara Gatewood.
She is is a lot of Pueblo andthe host of native calling.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
It's a live call and radio show that's been on the
air for 25 years.
Here's her conversation withOglala Sioux president, Julianne
bear runner.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
We are asking you to help us stop the possible spread
by taking pre cautionarymeasures.
Stay in your home, exercisesocial distancing.
Stay six feet from others whilein public.
If you are sick, stay home andso isolate.
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Please take coping.
19 seriously essential travel.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
You're hearing part of the Oglala Lakota nations
effort to curb the spread of thenovel Corona virus.
It's from one of the tribesFacebook videos highlighting
efforts of their coven 19response task force.
It's the sound that echoedthrough the community several
weeks ago as tribal servicevehicles made their way through
the different villages carryingthe message of staying safe and
(18:49):
vigilant against the Coronavirus.
Julian Baer runners, the 43rdOglala Sioux tribes president.
He says this approach is vital.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Some people don't have the radio.
Some people don't have socialmedia and they rely on just, you
know the word on the streets.
So, you know, we have taken thatventure of going out and
actually doing this throughoutthe communities.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Bear under said at first they were sharing this
message from the back of atruck, but not everyone was
hearing the cautionary dispatch.
So they took it up a notch.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
We brought in our medical personnel who brought in
a rescue truck that would soundthe siren and that was drawing
the people's attention becausethey were hearing the sirens.
So they were coming to thewindow, they were coming to the
doors and they were standingthere and they were listening
and it's been working.
It's been getting a lot of theattention and the message out to
the people.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
And for some native nations, getting the word out on
the severity of the virus hashelped keep the number of coven
19 positive cases low.
And in some cases at zero, bearunder said, staying ahead of the
virus is critical given the manyobstacles his tribe faces when
there isn't a pandemic.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
We have limited housing, we have, uh, you know,
we have, what, four respiratorshere?
IHS, we have a limited manpower,uh, within IHS.
We have, you know, our, ourambulance service that is very,
uh, always underfunded.
So, you know, we have a lot ofissues at stake and due to the
shortage of housing, we have,you know, sometimes a large
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influx of family members livingin one household for one person
is to contract that and takethat home.
You know, we look at maybe noteven having to quarantine just
one household, but you know, maypossibly quarantine the full
community, which you know, isgoing to be, you know, that's
going to be a great hardship onus as a people.
So I'm, I'm hoping that we canreally stay a where we're at
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today, but you know, also just,you know, watching and praying
for our, our relatives that are,you know, currently experiencing
these hardships and learningfrom the things that they're
doing to help to implement, toensure that we're ready here.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
The Oglala Sioux tribe was one of the first
sovereign tribal nations in thecountry to take action on March
eight, the tribe issued anexecutive order establishing a
response team and suspendingtravel for the tribes employees.
The order also stronglyrecommended that the general
public refrain and postponevisits to their reservation.
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It also urged tribal members tolimit off reservation travel.
I asked him why the tribedecided to make this declaration
during a time when other stateand tribal entities had yet to
move forward in this way.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
Anything that I can do to, to protect our tribe, to
protect the people that theland, you know, is always number
one for me.
And, um, it was challenging, youknow, to have to, you know, but
again, you know, relying andsitting down with our top
officials to decide is this theright way?
Is this something that we shoulddo?
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And you know, quickly, you know,developing, like I said, we
developed this response team andthis response team, I suspect
the fed has been phenomenal in,in bringing information forward
to staying on top of thenational news as well as, you
know, with what CDC is puttingout and throughout the nation,
you know, what the rest of theworld is doing and bringing that
together and bringing thatforward to the tribal council.
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And you know, in the tribalcouncil moving forward to enact
these policies and theseprocedures and these temporary
laws that we have to put ineffect to protect our people.
So, you know, if it was adifficult decision, but it was a
decision that had to be made.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
The first notion to spring into action against the
Corona virus came a week earlierfor president baroner.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
I was at the reservation economic summit,
which caused me to justquarantine myself in my room and
you know, and take thepreventative measures.
And I got an immediate flighthome and caused me to go into
quarantine myself to, to ensurethat I was not infected.
And you know, rapidly sit downwith our team here of officials
Speaker 5 (22:53):
with what the Corona virus is bringing to our native
nations.
Our tribal leaders are beingasked to go head on with a
severe health emergency thattops any they've seen in their
time, including presidentbaroner.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
This was probably never something that I would
have ever imagined, you know,that would have fall on the
responsibility of any triballeader or any leader, you know,
for that matter.
However, you know, when I cameinto this position, you know, I
knew that there was gonna be,um, hardships and hard times.
And you know, I, I came in herewith a, on a, on a spiritual
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level, on a prayerful level.
And that's, you know, that's theway that I've been handling it.
And through that process, youknow, things that I've prayed
about in the past have beenhappening.
Things that I've been, you know,I'm being put in the right place
at the right time.
And it's been very humbling, butit's been very, uh, rewarding,
you know, for us as a peoplefrom those things that I prayed
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about in the beginning to put meto where I'm at today.
Now, with that being said, youknow, trying to, you know, keep
that spiritual foundation of whowe are as a people is the
forefront and the utmostimportant thing that I must do
as a tribal leader.
And to have that faith, youknow, to lead the people in, in
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that manner.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Bear run or added with everything that's going on
because of the virus.
He's also seen a transformationof his tribe.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
This time has really brought our people together.
You know, I hear I'll a lot ofyoung people saying, you know,
this is really grounded us to aone two to be parents to, you
know, really bond within withour family and our structure and
to learn to, you know, put theireveryday lines away and, and,
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and really, you know, just growas a family and as a, as a
nation, you know, to, to bringback that, uh, the original way
of life, you know, to reallyjust to stay home and develop
that family structure withinthemselves.
This has been very beneficialfor them.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
He also had a message for all native nations.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Okay.
I just want to again, stress,you know, the, as native nations
to remember who you are, toremember the things that we've
come through, to reiterate whatthe chiefs of our tribe here,
the Oglala Sioux tribe have toldus, was to, to continue to pray,
to hold that faith and in thoseprayers and to continue forward
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and that we too will overcomethis as we have everything else.
You know, and that just to lookout for one another and to, to
learn to learn from what othernations are, are battling and
what they're up against and whatthey're going through.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
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Speaker 1 (26:05):
[inaudible]
Speaker 7 (26:05):
when 40 year old nurse make them Frazier heard
about the new coronavirusspreading and Wu Han China.
At the end of 2019 she sprunginto action.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
You know, we started hearing starts out of the state
of Washington.
That's when I really startedgetting concerned because you
know, I have relatives.
My, my mom still is back on thereservation with my uncles and
my cousins and my aunts that Ithought, okay, I need to start
preparing.
That's what if this compare.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
Frasier packed up her car and took her four year old
twins to stay with her family inSanders, Arizona on the Navajo
reservation.
That's where she's from.
She said it just felt safer.
Speaker 8 (26:45):
I knew there they would be a little bit better, um
, isolated from say the city and, and then we made arrangements
for us to bring supplies andfood and things like that to, to
get them prepared as well as myrelatives there.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
Frazier went to work.
She and her colleague Jessica[inaudible] who is from Zuni
Pueblo and is a physician'sassistant have been testing and
screening people for coven 19 ata drive through facility
organized by Presbyterian healthcenter in Albuquerque, New
Mexico.
During the last few weeks theywere testing almost 800 patients
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a day.
Jessica says it's a privilege tobe working on the front lines.
Speaker 9 (27:24):
We are one of the top five cities to be testing the
largest amount per capita acrossthe United States.
We have been the singleorganization that has been able
to test 40% of our new Mexicanpopulation for COBIT 19.
So we're very happy to providethat service and um, be able to
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provide any data to ourcommunity.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
And data is important.
A recent breakdown of casesalong racial lines in New Mexico
shows that more than 35% ofcases are among native American
communities in the state.
Jessica says that some of thechallenges communities face have
to do with the number of testsavailable.
Speaker 9 (28:09):
So a lot of the barriers come down with the
number of test kits.
Um, then often the, whether theyare six 38 contracted
independent or an IHS facility,it's the test, the number of
tests kits available.
Usually that number is only afraction of what their
population as a community is,
Speaker 7 (28:27):
make him sees those same barriers.
She said the number of cases ofcoven 19 have doubled and
tripled almost every day.
That's when tribes in New Mexicoreject to the department of
health for help.
And that's how she got involved.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
So the DOH reached out to us because we'd been so
successful with our screeningsite.
Um, and we said, let's do it.
Let's get out there and help.
I think for, um, myself and Ican as well as Jessica.
Um, it was, you know, beingnative people and being able to
provide the service, um, wasimportant to us because when we
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understand the lack of resourcesthat is out in Indian country,
Speaker 7 (29:10):
make them set.
Another challenge is thelanguage.
She's talked to elders in hercommunity who say most of the
information about coven 19 is inEnglish and it needs to be a
Navajo too.
Another challenge is the conceptof social distancing.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
He's social distancing and having to say,
Hey, listen, you can't visityour relatives right now because
of this disease, this disease.
Um, it is really hard to educatetribal members, um, and have
them understand that
Speaker 7 (29:41):
make and Jessica acknowledge the seriousness of
this situation, but feel likebeing out there with the
community is the right thing todo despite the risks.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
Absolutely.
There's always that fear.
Um, just like a, a soldier goinginto more, right?
There's always that fear andthere's always that risk.
But part of it is this is Isigned up to be a clinician and
this is my battle that I have tofight, but I have to make sure
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that I'm protecting myself.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
Make them as glad both her children are spending
this time with relatives anddoing the things that she did
when she grew up in Sanders.
Speaker 8 (30:23):
They're, you know, around horses around what I kind
of, I grew up with.
And so they have the opportunityduring this time to learn their
culture.
They are learning to speak thelanguage because they're with
my, my relatives.
And so, um, it's kind of anopportune time for them even
though the rest of the world isin chaos.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
Both acknowledged that it will be a while before
things go back to quote unquotenormal.
And that life after thispandemic passes will be very
different.
The lesson is to reflect onwhat's most important.
Speaker 10 (31:11):
[inaudible]
Speaker 11 (31:12):
well, hopefully it's a big event.
There's a lot of indigenouscommunities around the world who
are suffering from this of 19virus and we are not exempt from
it unfortunately.
Yes, it's a big event.
This is the thing that I fearmost is that a lot of folks
don't understand it the way theyshould.
Speaker 12 (31:34):
Hey everyone.
I'm Monica brain journalist andradio producer.
I'm a sinner.
Boyne and Lakota, you just heardUnited States representative Deb
Holland, she's Laguna Pueblo andone of the first native women to
be elected to the house.
Holland is home right now inAlbuquerque, but at the end of
March, she and three othernatives in the house of
representatives voted on themost recent stimulus package.
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The cares act, and it's my jobto give you everything you need
to know about it and what itmeans for native America.
It's the largest stimuluspackage ever passed.
The hope is that the two point$2trillion will help with the
crisis created from the covert19 pandemic.
It's not just money for medicalcare.
It also involves a lot relatedto the economy because our
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economy is directly tied to thiscrisis and right now it's not
doing too well, and many tribesand tribal citizens are
struggling as well.
Most of our casinos are closedand the Indian health service is
already chronically underfunded.
A 2018 us governmentaccountability office found that
IHS spends an average of$4,000per patient.
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To put that into perspective.
The department of veteransaffairs spends 8,000 and
Medicare spends 13,000 perpatient, so this pandemic is
putting an already strugglingsystem in a worst place.
That's where the stimuluspackage may help.
So of this enormous two point$2trillion pie, there's 8 billion
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for tribes.
That's a lot of money.
But the thing is tribes andnative organizations lobbied for
a lot more.
Will this 8 billion be enough tohelp tribes?
Probably not, but it's a startand there's going to be more
legislation in the pipeline.
Before we get into the tribalprovisions, I wanted to mention
a few things that could help youpersonally.
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There's a stimulus check comingto most Americans.
Think of it as an extra per capfrom chairman, uncle Sam.
The only catches that you haveto make sure that you filed your
2018 in 2019 taxes and there'san income threshold, so the more
you make, the less you get.
Couples who make over$150,000 ayear won't see a stimulus check.
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The legislation has a bunch morethat could really help during
this challenging time.
Weekly unemployment paymentswill increase by$600 also gig
and freelance workers might beeligible for an employment as
well, which is not usually thecase.
The issue right now is that thesystem is overburdened and many
people are waiting on hold forhours and hours are getting
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booted off the online systemsbecause so many people are
trying to apply at once.
Some good news is that taxesaren't due until July 15th and
the government won't becollecting payments or interest
on federal student loans untilSeptember.
If you own a small business, youcould get an emergency loan or
grant to help with expensesincluding payroll and if you
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already have a small businessloan, payments and interest are
suspended for six months.
Initially it seemed like tribalcasinos that had less than 500
employees were going to qualifyfor small business relief under
this package, but the smallbusiness administration put up
some guidelines and it said thatcasinos are not eligible for
this program.
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President Trump said he wouldtake a look at it, so we'll see
how it plays out.
Okay.
Let's get into the nitty grittyof what exactly is going to help
tribes, and bear with me on thisone.
It can get confusing, but I'mgoing to do my best to make it
simple and clear.
Some of the headlines have saidthat there's 8 billion for
tribes and others have said 10billion.
8 billion is for tribes, and theother 2 billion is for agencies
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that support tribes like theIndian health service, the
Bureau of Indian affairs, andthe Bureau of Indian education.
When big packages come from thefederal government, like
disaster relief, everybody linesup to get their share.
States, cities, municipalities,and organizations.
Tribes routinely have to standin the same line.
Is everybody else competing witheveryone else?
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So a tribe that maybe hasthousand citizens might be
competing with a city that has50,000 people and the resources
to submit a better applicationfor funding advocates in Indian
country.
I've been saying for years thattribes shouldn't have to
compete.
That is part of the trustresponsibility to provide for
tribes that we are separate.
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So$8 billion for tribes is agood deal.
Here's a few numbers on theagencies that are also getting
money in the package.
There's 300 million for housing,which is helpful to address
overcrowding situations innative America, particularly
during the time when we reallyneed to have extra space on the
education front.
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69 million is going to theBureau of Indian education and
20 million is for tribalcolleges and food distribution.
Or as some of you might know,Kamado is getting 100 million
each side.
Republicans, Democrats and thewhite house came to the table
with different numbers and thefinal compromise was
specifically 8 billion fortribes.
I asked us representative, TomCole, who is Chickasaw about the
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different numbers being thrownaround about who came to the
table, asking for what,
Speaker 11 (36:45):
you know, who was on what side, where really doesn't
matter.
A lot of legislative negotiationa lot is can you educate, uh,
people that have a differentpoint of view and move them in
your direction.
And I would say in this one, webroadly did, and I can't think
of another instance in any kindof package where we had anything
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like$8 billion going to tribalgovernments to mitigate the
damages that both Corona virusescaused them directly and then
the economic impact on theireconomies and their, uh, know
base for supporting their owntribal government services.
So is it enough now?
It's never enough.
Um, but is it a huge improvementover what we've had before?
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Yes, it is.
And is it primarily a bipartisanCheevan no question.
Speaker 12 (37:36):
Did you have to educate the white house about
the importance of this money?
Speaker 11 (37:39):
Well, let's just say we worked with the white house.
Yes.
Uh, and yeah, we had some goodhelp in the white house.
Again, uh, if we had not hadpeople willing to listen.
Uh, frankly, one of the personsI worked with was the new chief
of staff, Mark Meadows, who usedto represent, uh, Eastern bandit
Cherokees in his congressionalseat, uh, you know, has more
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awareness, uh, about tribalissues.
And because of that, uh, thanmost people know.
And he was extremely helpful inmoving that number in the right
direction.
Speaker 12 (38:11):
I also talked with CEO of the national Congress of
American Indians, Kevin Alice,who's Forrest County
Pottawattamie community aboutall these numbers.
I asked him how far 8 billioncould go during this time of
great need and he said 8 billionwasn't going to be nearly
enough.
He also brought up a big concernhe has about the language in the
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bill that dictates how tribesare going to be allowed to use
the money.
It's only supposed to be usedfor expenses that occur as a
result of coven 19
Speaker 6 (38:42):
the statute says necessary expenditures because
of COBIT 19 that are unbudgetedin relation to the tribes most
recent budget and occur duringthis timeframe.
Speaker 12 (38:54):
This means that tribes can only use the money
for expenses related to coven 19they cannot replace the money
lost due to coven 19 like casinorevenues.
For example, if a tribe runs asenior center with profits from
the casino, they can't use themoney from the$8 billion pot for
the senior centers.
Regular expenses.
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They could use the money to buyextra masks and scrubs, but not
for food unless it was extra asa result of the pandemic.
This puts a lot of bureaucraticred tape on funds that tribes
desperately need.
Right now.
Alice says there might be a wayto get around this if tribes
create brand new coven 19emergency budgets, but it all
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comes down to how the usdepartment of treasury
interprets the law and divviesup the money.
One interesting thing is thatnone of the money allocated to
tribes can be distributed as aper cap check, but the fact
remains tribes will need moremoney on native America calling
United States Senator Tom Udall,who's from New Mexico said he
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expected there to be more billsand more money for tribes.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
My expectation is we have to come back to this again.
That's all the talk.
We're going to have anotherbill.
Uh, we don't know, matter aweek.
Um, and the problems we'rehaving with this bill, whatever
they are, if their resources are, if there are other issues, we
will try to take care of them.
And the next bill
Speaker 12 (40:19):
on the house side, I asked representative Deb Holland
when she will go back to fightfor more money for tribes.
Speaker 11 (40:25):
We're fighting for it right now.
Zoom and through our, you know,our conference calls and I have
half of my staff is in DC, halfof my staff is here in New
Mexico, so we're all, uh, everyday we're on the phone together.
We're each reaching out, we'remaking phone calls to
constituents and phone calls tovarious, you know, organizations
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just to make sure that we'removing the ball forward as we
should.
I, we're not losing a moment on,you know, every single moment
that is past, I should say iswell spent, uh, working to make
sure that we can get throughthis.
Speaker 12 (41:04):
I didn't think you were back in Albuquerque kicking
back and hanging out.
Speaker 11 (41:11):
No, no, not at all.
Not at all.
In fact, I haven't, uh, youknow, I came back from DC after
the last vote and governor LujanGrisham, there's a big sign at
the airport that says, if you'recoming in from another state,
you have to solve isolate fortwo weeks.
So I'm, I've been at my house,uh, away from everyone.
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I'm not to go anywhere.
So I'm here and, uh, there'snothing else better to do than
to work on making sure thateverybody can get through this.
Speaker 12 (41:42):
Is it harder to wheel and deal over zoom?
Speaker 11 (41:47):
You know, sometimes I feel like it is.
Um, because look, I'm on thehouse oversight committee and
uh, if we saw that the U S youknow, that the administration
was messing up on the fundingpackage, we could haul them in
to the hearing room and ask themquestions about it.
(42:08):
Right.
And, um, and we can't do thatright now.
So, um, it is a bit moredifficult to, you know, get your
point across into, um, you know,we've written a lot of letters,
we've signed on to many, manyletters that are circulating
around to make our point and toprotect our people.
Speaker 12 (42:28):
So there you have it, the most recent stimulus
package and what it can mean foryou and your tribe will be
keeping an eye on this as ourpodcast continues.
Thanks for listening.
God,
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Monica is a sinner.
Boyne and Lakota and she'srecently started her own podcast
called natives on a budget.
You can check itout@nativesonabudget.com well,
that'll do it for our very firstepisode of the illuminated on
air podcast.
If you like what you've heardtoday, please consider giving us
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five stars and reviewing us inApple podcasts or wherever else
you get your podcasts.
This episode was produced andhosted by Tara Gatewood, Alison
Herrera, Monica brain, andmyself, crystal echo Hawk.
Our executive producer isHeather Rae and our operations
coordinator is Lincoln cornshucker sound engineering by
Paul[inaudible].
(43:28):
Many thanks for the musicalcontributions of Superman,
Samantha Crane and torn Jacobs.
This podcast would not bepossible without the support of
the Doris Duke charitablefoundation.
The shock could be metal walkingin Sioux community and the Macy
family foundation.
If you want to reach out andlearn more about us, please
visit illuminators.work andfinally I'm sending my prayers
(43:50):
and thoughts to all of our lovedones impacted by these world
events.
We'll see you next time.
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