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September 19, 2020 51 min

Welcome to Episode 14! In this episode, I chat with my good friend David Lyons. David is an average height friend of mine from college. We were in the same program at Michigan State and bonded over a mutual love of punk rock. In this episode, Dave shares the story of how his view of little people has significantly changed over the years. We talk about how he went from making jokes from afar to have some of his closest friends be short-statured individuals. I commend him for sharing this story and for having an honest and fun discussion about his journey. Please enjoy my conversation with David Lyons.

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