February 13, 2024 • 48 mins
Step into a provocative exploration of truth and deception in Daring to Doubt. Nachi and Damaris navigate the complexities of managing cultural clashes in a world where Black, Brown, and Caribbean communities are often left out of critical narratives. From healing generational traumas to finding empowerment in skepticism, this elevated conversation invites listeners into a community of like-minded people seeking both truth and joy.
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Medical Apartheid by Harriet A. Washington
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Join us as we explore conspiracy theories and examine
evidence and psychologicalfactors.
Let's challenge our perceptionsand uncover the truth, and take
the red pill and see how deepthe rabbit hole goes.
Welcome to another episode ofI'm Not Yellen, I'm Dominican,
(00:25):
podcast, hosted by Nachi andDemaris.
Hey family, it's your girl,nachi, and I'm here with Demaris
, affectionately known by herfamily as the slim reaper.
If y'all know, y'all know, justsaying Right, right.
But, fam, I don't know.
(00:48):
If y'all ready, I need to askare y'all ready to take this red
pill with us and Think aboutall the things that you thought
might be Real?
I mean, does everything seem asit is, as it appears to you?
Hell, no, don't know.
(01:14):
I don't know, and you know whatthis is, what we're gonna get
into, so this is gonna be a goodone.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
It sure is, because I just truly believe we should go
around in life with a healthydose of skepticism.
I Do not believe in living lifeas a Smurf, and when I say smurf
I mean Basically you walkaround like no, no, no, stop.
(01:44):
I call my niece and nephewsmurfs because they're like a
couple of polyan is.
They think life is great andyou can trust everyone, and the
reality is no.
But not that you go around likea paranoid person, but a
healthy dose of skepticism is agood balance to have in life and
I'm really excited about thistopic because it's fun.
(02:06):
It's our last episode of theseason and it's it's in the
world of conspiracy theories.
Right.
Every time society, especiallywhen anxiety is up in in you
know, during a phase in society,conspiracy theories are
(02:27):
Correlated with that.
You know they go up just asmuch.
And so If we break down justthe word right, conspiracy is a
secret plan by a group to dosomething unlawful or harmful.
That's the word conspiracy.
And then the word theory andbasically, basically Real talk,
(02:54):
magic, come on, slow down, Iknow, I know.
And then theory, by definition,is Speculative idea or plan as
to how something might be done,the keyword here being
speculative, right?
So there's no proof of that yet.
(03:15):
And so when I was looking athow conspiracy theory is defined
, you know there were a lot ofsources and, honestly, all of
them were consistent if you lookat it.
And and they looked atconspiracy theory as an attempt
to explain harmful or tragicevents as a result of the
(03:37):
actions of a small powerfulgroup.
Such explanations Reject theaccepted narrative that
surrounding those events, indeed, the official version may be
seen as further proof of theconspiracy, and so, and that one
came from Britannica, but therewas everything that I read.
They looked at it that way andand it was really the rejection
(04:00):
of the evidence that may existand the lack of evidence to
prove that said conspiracytheory is Is actually factual.
So it takes me back when we,when we just kicked off this
episode, this idea, and youalready Said, isn't that our
government a conspiracy?
(04:20):
You know, um, I have certainstrong feelings about that.
You might hear it throughoutthe show.
I don't want to just come outwith a straight-up answer.
But right, do you reallybelieve Everything the
government says?
I mean, and if so, I'm judgingyou Secretly, and not so
secretly, I'm kind of judgingyou.
(04:41):
So don't tell me.
If you're a good friend of mineand and you're like, oh my god,
I believe everything thegovernment says and does is for
our best interest, yeah, no, Idon't believe that and history
has shown that to not be true.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, cuz they had.
They are very good at paintingcertain pictures and using
People's biases to promotecertain propaganda.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean the, and also thegovernment just has a history of
lying to its citizens.
Yes, so why would I believeeverything that it says to be a
hundred percent facts or genuine, like I think that's just so?
That to me doesn't make sense,like just from a logical
standpoint.
If you've lied repeatedly to me, am I really gonna trust
(05:34):
everything that comes out yourmouth?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I'm gonna question it , yes.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I'm gonna question it , rightfully, so I'm.
Some people may be like oh mygoodness, to marriage.
You're exaggerating.
Everything they've done is okay.
I'm sorry, 70% okay.
Again, the question still standsam I going to believe
everything you say?
Ask fact or ask truth?
No, fact is one thing, buttruth, no, no, no.
(06:01):
And so I Think that's also whyconspiracy theories are so
triggering, right, because theythey speak to a bias that may
already exist and they feed offof people's anxieties, and so
what we're gonna share today, Imean this is again, this is
intended to be a Fun one for us.
(06:23):
You may not find conspiracytheories fun, but I find it
entertaining because I don'tlive my life like a smurf.
Maybe you do, maybe you don't,maybe you down with us and
you're interested in this redpill.
So I wanted to get into,actually, the most outrageous
theories that turned out to betrue.
So they're no longer conspiracytheories, because the term
(06:45):
conspiracy theories implies thatit's theoretical and there's no
, there's no proof that they'retrue.
But these conspiracies actuallyhappen, oh my gosh.
And surprise, surprise,surprise, surprise, the ones
that I'm going to talk abouttoday are all done by the
government.
Oh, Mmm are you ready?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Nachi.
Yes, tell me what we got.
What we got, what we got.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Okay, we're gonna start with the first one, which
to me is kind of like prettyoutrageous.
So I don't know if you heard ofMK.
Yes, so it was a project run bythe CIA.
Oh, wow, surprise, surprise,from 1953 to 1973, right, and it
was an illegal humanexperimentation program designed
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and undertaken by the USCentral Intelligence Agency,
which is known as the CIA, andintended to develop Procedures
and identify drugs that could beused during interrogations to
weaken people and forceConfessions through brainwashing
and psychological torture.
So this was big in the 50s,because America was afraid of
(08:00):
communism and Soviet spies andall the like, and so they
developed this program to to tryto infiltrate and Identify
spies and and create what theytermed as a truth serum right.
But in doing so, they Not onlyexperimented on people that may
(08:22):
have consented, but the consentwas dubious at best.
They also did it on onconsenting US citizens, canadian
citizens, they and militarystaff that they threatened with
court marshals if they tried toExpose the program.
They had labs around the worlddoing experiments and they there
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were CIA connected Institutionsthat ran these said experiments
.
They use this, they use LSD onthese individuals and they
occasionally tortured theparticipants as well.
They paid hospitals, prisons,universities for their
participation and their silence.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Did you hear prison Prisons.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Right, Come on.
So this.
Of course they were exposedeventually and they were ex and
so in 73, the CIA director,Richard Helms, ordered that all
documents related to MK Altru bedestroyed.
He said oh shit, fucking, burnit all.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I'm not even kidding.
Oh, my goodness.
And this was in the 1950s.
You said To 73.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
It was a 20 year program.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And the reason why I can say that this is an actual
conspiracy is because they hadcongressional hearings in the
late 70s, but guess what?
Because Richard Helms was likeyo shred all that shit up.
There was nothing they had,they didn't have enough evidence
and all the people that ofcourse, that were that were
testifying.
(10:05):
They're like I don't recall 20years, I don't recall, I don't
know what happened, and so theythe information that we do have
that has been declassified areabout 20,000 pages that were
moved to a different office thathadn't been destroyed because
it was misplaced there, and thatis the only reason.
(10:27):
But it doesn't really giveenough information because I
think it was a lot more about,as it relates to the, the budget
of the program and otherdetails, but not so much the
experiments.
But there was some informationthere that they were able to
extract and that's why they hadthese congressional hearings.
Okay, there was actually acommittee in the 70s to
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investigate the work that theCIA and the FBI was doing, but
yet those organizations stillexist.
And so when I say three letteragencies are four letter words.
This is what I'm talking about.
You think they care about you,your existence as a citizen.
They're willing to sacrifice anexperiment on you so that they
can, oh, get a, get an edge overthe Soviet Union.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Really Unconsenting and scary and scary at the same
time.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Extremely scary, extremely scary.
That was number one, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Moving on to You're like we're not done.
We're not done, there's more.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
No, no, no, no.
The next conspir, yeah, oh yeah, no, no, no the thing.
I'm trying to keep this episodeshort, but, guys, there's a
treasure trove of this.
I'm like not just in thebeginning, it's a whole rabbit
hole and I love it.
I'm here for it.
I'm your little rabbit hole guy.
Let's do it.
Let's be like Thelma.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Louise, no, yeah, yeah.
You love telling me like, doyou know who, who was part of
this organization and how, thatyou would link the money Like
you?
All you have to say is followthe money and I would tell you
what to do.
Don't I always say that Iactually do it.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yes, and I do it, and you map it out for me.
Yes, guess who funded that?
Oh right, Right.
So, yeah, I love this.
What's the next one?
What's the next one?
Surprise, surprise, this agencyagain.
Gosh, darn it, the CIACollaborating with the media for
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propaganda purposes.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
So, yeah, so they have this thing, of course,
declassified.
Now, operation Mockingbird,this is called the CIA
propaganda machine.
Y'all hear this.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
So this is right.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Well, this is declassified from the 50s.
Please, let's not pretend thatthe CIA is still in existence,
which means that they still haveprograms in place.
So I wonder maybe they're notfollowing us, Because why would
they do that Even if they have?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
a history that was 20 , 30, 40 years ago.
Come on guys Right.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
They care about your rights.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Now they care about you as a citizen.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yes, they really do so.
In 48, this guy, frank Weisner,was appointed as the director
of this special projects group.
Anybody that is appointed tospecial projects you need to
watch out for those specialprojects.
I never the kind of special youthink they are, but anyway, and
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they were.
The CIA eventually took controlof this special project office
and this guy, frank Weisner, hewas.
The purpose of taking control ofthis organization was to
maintain a secret campaign toinfluence media around the world
(13:54):
for almost 25 years.
The get 25 years.
I'm sure it's continued, butthey just like no, it ended 25
years.
Anyway, weisner, yeah, this guyWeisner, who is the director of
this office he owned, respectedmembers of.
Guess what?
You want to know what kind ofpublications they still exist
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the New York Times, newsweek,cbs and other media outlets.
By the 50s there were around3000 CIA employees and dozens of
large global media outletsworking to maintain this complex
propaganda machine.
But I know they must have allgot fired immediately after.
(14:41):
So, guys, don't worry, likethey were, they were fired
immediately when this was.
This program ended it becausethey weren't directed by a
higher right, oh my gosh.
Yes, so.
So at this time, what they weretrying to influence was trying
(15:05):
to convince the public howterrible communism was and the
dangers of it, and facilitatedthe 1954 animated Hollywood
production of George Orwell'sAnimal Farm.
Yeah, the book is fantastic.
(15:25):
So the church committee is theone that exposed the conspiracy
in 1975.
And they calculated thatmisinforming the world cost
taxpayers $265 million a year.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So yeah, and this church committee is the one, the
same committee that exposed theother MK Ultra.
But I want to where the churchcommittee is now.
I wonder what happened inCongress.
They should focus on foreignforeign affairs and bullshit
like that.
Yeah.
So that that's interesting, andwhat's funny is that something
(16:04):
else that I came across that tome is very related to this, but
though not a direct link butdefinitely dotted lines, is that
there was a US patent, and thispatent number is 6506148 B, as
(16:25):
in boy two.
It's called nervous systemmanipulation by electromagnetic
field from monitors.
So I'm just going to read toyou a summary of what that means
.
So computer monitors and TVmonitors can be made to emit
weak, low frequencyelectromagnetic field merely by
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pulsing the intensity ofdisplayed images.
So basically all this, and tosum up in one sentence, is that
a TV monitor or computer monitorcan be used to manipulate the
nervous system of nearby people.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
This is a lot.
There's a whole bunch of uswith anxiety and all sorts of
nervous system issues, butactually we don't know if it's
being used for that.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
You know there is.
There is this idea of usingthis nervous energy that we
admit when we're anxious.
I believe it's called lush andit's that is what drives a lot
of these vehicles to create aperpetual state of fear for you,
(17:37):
because they need that energyof you being anxious, of you
constantly being stressed out.
This is why, as a formerself-care, I do not watch the
news.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, I don't either.
Yeah, no, and it's interestingbecause I think about I was just
thinking about this the otherday how anxiety it seems like
everyone is suffering from that,even myself, even myself.
And I try I'll do things likeyourself, like I would not watch
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the news.
You know, I'm limited to theamount of news that I take in on
a daily basis.
But I also do things to help mynervous system, like I'll
meditate or I'll do yoga or if Iknow that I'm getting more
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anxious, I make sure that I'mtaking my herbal teas.
that's that helps with mynervous system, but it's
interesting that you say thatthis was part of their plan.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, yeah.
So well, this patent hasnothing to do with the CIA, but
I'm sharing it because when yousee the hear about this
operation Mockingbird and thisidea of manipulating and
controlling the media to pushout certain propaganda messages
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on behalf of the government,it's not crazy to see how, now
that the fact that there is apatent out there to emit certain
frequencies that actuallyaffect our nervous system, like
that's crazy.
You know, I'm not here to saythat it's being used for evil
(19:32):
purposes or not, I don't know.
I'm just telling you thatthere's a patent out there and
it exists.
This is actually a thing Ithink the patent is from like
2001.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
2001.
, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
So who's to say, like , how this is being used or not?
We have no idea.
But again, we're not sharingthis to scare people.
This information is to makepeople aware, like you need to
be aware.
You need to be a consciousbeing and make mindful decisions
.
Be present.
(20:05):
Don't do things as if you're arobot, as if you're an NPC.
Like your main character, actlike one.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
But it's like remember, was it Arsenio Hall?
I'm aging myself, but he alwaysused to have a segment that
went anything, things that makeyou go, hmm.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Oh, oh, my goodness, right, right.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
That's how you have to be on a daily basis.
That's it.
Things like this that come upto your you know that you're
knowledgeable about, makes youwant to think about it.
That's it Like.
What's this about and how canit be applied to me?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Exactly, and this is why, when we talk about reducing
time on screen, yeah, becausewe use a lot more devices.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Now we don't it's not TV, we have our laptop, we have
our phone, iPads all certainand like why they say you
shouldn't have your phone inyour bedroom.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
The Wi-Fi, like all these frequencies, yeah, it's
disruptive, but you know we cango down the whole radical with
that.
All sorts of things, everything.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, that's hmm.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah.
So I thought it was nice toconnect those two, just in the
fact that they're in the realmof here's how we consume
information.
You usually put it with TV,some sort of monitor, whether
it's TV, a computer, your phonedevice, whatever, so so the next
one is also a very interestingone, and some people may be
(21:39):
familiar with this because ofthe show on Amazon that it was
based off of, it's OperationPaperclip.
This is where Nazi scientistsfind employment in America and,
as I mentioned already, therewas a show on Amazon that came
out, I want to say, in 2020 or2021, about these Nazi
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scientists that were undercoverin the US and working as yeah,
I'm like, great, you haveemployment.
That's wonderful, even thoughyou're a part of this regime.
What's interesting is that,just to describe this, this is
so.
It was a joint intelligenceagency that gave authorization
to provide 1500 Germanscientists, technicians and
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engineers from Nazi Germanyemployment in America and
apparently some other countries,but primarily German scientists
, and President Schumann agreedto this program with the
explicit instruction that itonly include those who were not
found to have been a member ofthe Nazi party and, I guess, no
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more than a nominal participantin its activities or an active
support of Nazi militarism.
Okay, so this meant that therewere certain really big named
scientists Wernher von Braun,arthur Rudolph and Hubertus
Strunkhold who were listed as amenace to the security of the
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Allied forces.
So the Allied forces, that'sthe other countries they're like
, these people are terrible.
So they, under this program,under Truman, would not fit the
requirements of being allowed tofind new employment in America.
But our lovely jointintelligence objectives agency
decided that these guys werevital importance to the
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development of the US rocketprogram.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So they falsified documentation.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
They falsified their employment and political
biographies so that and also,along the way, completely
destroyed all evidenceconnecting them to the Nazi war
machine.
So this government loves havinga history of destroying
evidence that will connect themto harmful and wrongdoing.
(23:57):
But I thought that was okay,not surprising.
But again, I know some of you.
You're like I love thisgovernment, I'm dying of sword
for it.
Congratulations, yeah,congratulations, because they
give two fucks about you.
(24:17):
Come on, come on Right.
By all means, by all means, dowhat you know what feels best.
And then the last one, which ismy favorite, and you'll know
why not you, is the Tuskegeeexperiment.
The US government loves toexperiment on its citizens, yeah
(24:38):
, yeah, yeah.
So so in 1932, the US publichealth service, with the CDC,
yeah, yeah, cdc.
The good old conspire to createa phony syphilis treatment
program.
So in this program there werelying to up to almost 400
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African American men who hadbeen diagnosed with syphilis,
and they were.
This was apparently onlysupposed to have lasted for six
months but it took until.
But this program didn't until1972.
And of course that's when itbecame public.
Only because it became publicand the government was forced to
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investigate and shut down theprogram.
But for 40 years these men weregiven dangerous chemicals,
offered painful and unnecessarymedical procedures under the
guise of actual treatment.
So they were lied to, eventhough during that timeframe
penicillin had come out to showthat and it was shown to have
(25:51):
cured syphilis.
But they didn't give them that.
They gave them placebo's andthey hid that from patients,
even though they told thepatients that in this program we
will help you with medical careLies fraudulent.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
As usual.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
So the re, and they did this so that the researchers
could learn about the disease.
That's wonderful.
These poor black men and theirfamilies, because also some
their spouses, they got infectedor sometimes their children
were born with this, withcongenital syphilis, something
like that.
They were never treated and atleast over at a minimum 100 died
(26:32):
either directly from syphilisor from complications that came
from syphilis.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
That burns me up.
And in case any of y'all think,oh, this is just the only time,
no, I want y'all to read thisbook called Medical Apathide.
It is from is written byHarriet Washington, and this she
talks about the history ofmedical experimentation on black
(27:01):
Americans from colonial timesto present.
This is not the only time noexperiment on black people.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Absolutely not.
And the other thing, too, isthat you might hear well, the
CDC did this a while ago.
No, the program ended in 1972.
We don't even know about theother programs right now.
This program ended in 1972.
We're talking about literally50, a little over 50 years.
(27:32):
That's people, that's likeseveral generations lifetimes
right now.
Like people are alive duringthat time period, like, stop,
1972 is when it ended.
And only because they gotexposed.
So please miss me with thebullshit, miss me with it.
Like, well, they wouldn't dothat now.
(27:53):
Okay, well, you could be theguinea pig.
I choose not to be.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Oh my gosh.
No, they are still doing it.
Now you need to realize thatand that's why you need to
question it.
But you know we'll get to thatlater.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think what people fail torealize is that the government
is here to work for the citizens.
They are here to serve citizens, not the other way around.
I am not here to serve thegovernment.
The government was created toserve the citizens of this
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country, and what it does isthat it tries to pretend that.
Oh no, no, like you don't needto tell me how to live my life,
nor are you, are you givenpermission to experiment on my
life.
You are here because you takemy tax dollars and I need you to
do the job that you need to do.
And I need you to just takeseveral seats, take several
(28:51):
seats, and so those are nottheories.
Those were all conspiraciesthat were planned by groups of
government officials to do harmto people, so they can't be
argued because those were actualdeclassified programs and their
(29:13):
documentation of these events,which I say.
All of this again, this is notto add fear mongering, because
if I wanted to, I could presentto you a bunch of conspiracy
theories that are current day,but I choose not to because it's
irrelevant, right?
(29:33):
Because at the end of the day,you need to be focused on how to
live your best life and how toincrease your frequency so that
stuff like this doesn't affectyou the same way.
Like, I'm not consuming thisstuff all the time, but I am
aware of it, so that I don't goout there like some Pollyanna
(29:56):
and think, okay, yes, well, no,I always ask the questions, and
this is where we've talked aboutthis.
We're talking about it in thisepisode and in other episodes.
Is this idea of criticalthinking and discernment, and so
let's talk about how do wepractice that, right?
Like?
I think I'll start with myself,and part of it is intelligently
(30:18):
analyzing the data.
When the math does a math, themath does a math.
It's as simple as that.
I'm like okay, two plus twoshould not equal eight.
Yeah, it should be four, andthis isn't adding up.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
No, yeah, yeah exactly, exactly, exactly,
exactly, exactly exactly isdoing that research, is doing
the research, and you know, thisis why we're talking about like
you know, we're talking aboutmedical experimentation and
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being able to ensure that youhave, you give an informed
consent, which means you have tounderstand what's being done to
you.
And if you don't understand, youneed to question it, not just
go with what that provider orthat healthcare professional is
(31:16):
telling you to do, because youneed to know what's happening to
you and this is right for you.
Yes, they may have you knowtheir, their own, professional
background, but again, you stillhave to question and these are
(31:37):
things that's happening to you.
So you have to be able toquestion and question anything
that you're being told that youhave to do.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Right, and that's yeah, it's, you're right, and
for me, when I come acrossanything, I question the
motivation.
That's how I dig deeper.
It's asking the question well,who benefits from this?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Because I'm going to tell you this right now when the
government says jump, I don'task how high, I just start
adding more stuff to my bug outbag.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Okay, I see where this is going.
This is, this is how I operate.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Let me get my prep bag Right.
Right, Y'all not catching meout here in these streets Like
no, it's not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I'm not kidding, I don't know how to say it.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Right, right, my two baby cats and my husband.
We are out of here, like, don'tplay with me.
You said do what now?
Okay, I, that's not going tohappen.
Okay, I need why?
Because I need to make aninformed decision, I need to
make a conscious decision.
So I do that by investigating,I do that by digging deeper,
(32:54):
asking question the motivation.
Who benefits from this?
And I always, always, always,always, always, always, always,
always, always, always, always,always, always, always, always,
always.
Follow the money.
And I'll tell you this thegovernment, not just the
government, private companies.
(33:15):
They are by law forced todisclose a lot of information.
They benefit because someAmericans have a really short
memory.
They benefit by Americanshaving a short memory and, just
(33:35):
like, the whole reason of whyI'm sharing all of these
conspiracies that occurred isthat they happen in less than
the last 100 years and this isjust again.
This is for you not to forgetthat this has happened.
So there's no reason todayRight.
(33:58):
So there's no reason why thisstill couldn't be happening
because they've not shown methat they've changed their ways.
Any case, like I was saying,they're required to disclose a
lot of information, and thatincludes public facing companies
, and so you don't have to do alot of digging to get to unearth
the weird connections Literallygo into the about us of a lot
(34:24):
of these companies.
Look at the board of directors,click on that.
You'll see their bios.
You'll let oh, this makes sense.
What do you mean?
This guy served as the directorof FDA and now he's on the
board of Pfizer.
I'm just saying Nothing againstPfizer, nothing against the FDA
.
I'm just saying look at that,wow, what a coincidence, Cause
(34:46):
the FDA is an organization, is athree letter organization that
has to prove the drugs that comefrom the pharmaceutical
companies.
I mean, that's not a weirdconnection, right?
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Is that not a conflict of interest?
Speaker 2 (35:01):
No, cause he no longer works for she, right, she
or he no longer work for theFDA.
Okay okay, oh right, but youdon't have friends there anymore
.
Oh wait, you do, but thatdoesn't mean that that
influences their decision not tochill, not to chill.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
That's not what I'm implying.
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
It's not what I'm implying, I'm just speaking with
the idea of critical thinking.
Just put that thinking cap,remember, in grammar school they
would like put your thinkingcap on.
So my thinking cap has been onwith crazy glue and has never
really taken off.
My thinking cap has been gluedonto my head so and I thankfully
(35:45):
leave it there.
Adam usually is like could youplease stop thinking and stop
reading labels and stop tellingme what?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I can or cannot read to Leave me alone, leave me
alone.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yes, yes, he's like can we watch this show without
you spewing out how this is allbullshit?
I know, I know, but they bankon people not reading and the
majority of people don't read,they just go by, you know, or
whatever, or peel right or peelthat first layer, Like I'm
telling you, you do not evenhave to dig deep, like I just
(36:15):
told you, I went to the about asection.
I was like, oh, this person, oh, that's interesting, what an
odd coincidence.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
You think that's too much into it.
Samaris, come on.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
And actually I leave it at that.
That's a coincidence, fantasticA coincidence that I've put is
in my now file.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Okay, thank you.
Right, things that make you go,not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Right, right I mean.
But honestly what they say, youbenefit from critical thinking
through heightenedself-reflection.
I'm always asking myself thequestions yeah, I'm gaining a
profound understanding of my ownbiases, yes, and areas for
improvement, all true.
(36:58):
Just a healthy dose ofskepticism.
I'm not going out here likeeverything that these
pharmaceutical companies do isevil and trash.
No, look, there are benefits.
People need certain drugs, yeahyeah.
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
But it's having that open-mindedness that you're, you
know it's being able to.
Okay, this is what my beliefsare, based on my research.
If you have something tocounter what I've read and my
understanding of it, I'm open tohearing that.
Tell me what, absolutely, andthat's what it's all about.
(37:36):
It's not about like oh, this isit and that's it.
No, it has to be a level ofopen-mindedness where we can
have a conversation and adialogue around these things and
not be labeled as a conspiracytheorist, you know, or something
.
Why?
Because we question.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I'm just a critical thinker.
I just I like to connect dots.
I love puzzles not.
You could tell you this.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I love puzzles.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I love.
My husband is always talkingabout how I should have been an
investigator.
I should have been in lawenforcement because I love to
play detective and I do, I do, Ido.
It is a hobby, so don't try me.
Just letting you know she's adetective.
Yes, yes, yes, I'm an internetsleuth, but.
But I wanted to get into alittle fun thing about what is a
(38:23):
conspiracy theory that youbelieve to be true, but
obviously, because it's still atheory, we don't know if it's
actually true.
But what is that one conspiracytheory for you?
I can't wait to get into mylife.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Well, okay.
So y'all know, when you seethis trail of thin white cloud
like that streaks across the skyand you know they call it
chemtrails I really don't thinkthat there's something that
(38:55):
they're putting out there in theair Now.
I don't know what it is.
It may affect us.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I don't know.
It's good stuff.
It's probably like popery thatI wanted to smell good for the
rest of the world.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
But it's interesting because I see it and I'm like
hmm, what is that?
Speaker 2 (39:13):
And we didn't see it that much growing up.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
No.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Like the last 20, 15 years, I see it quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I see it quite a bit and I wonder what's that about?
You know something you know tothink about.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
And then we don't want people to ask questions.
This is a dummy.
Sprinkle, don't ask any morequestions.
Find your business, sprinkle alittle dust over you.
We're not doing anything overhere.
Sprinkle, sprinkle, sprinkle.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
I'm just telling my kids I'm like, you see that
those are chemtrails.
They look at me like what?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Like oh my god, mom, Where's the bunker?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
They're putting something out here and I feel
like it's affecting us in somekind of way.
I don't know yet.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I'll find out, but we'll find out in 20 years.
Have like another, have likebaby Quaddoo coming out of our?
belly from total recall, girl.
Ok, ok, so mine is the moonlanding.
I don't, I do not believe welanded on the moon, I just don't
(40:18):
.
And you know, before you getall crazy out there like, oh my
god, I bet you a flat earth, no,no, I'm not.
I just don't believe we landedon the moon.
And simply by logic, I'm justgoing by logic.
I've told you guys a milliontimes I'm like a Vulcan.
To me, if it doesn't make sense, it just doesn't add up.
And so here are the reasons why, to me, it doesn't make sense.
(40:42):
So, starting off, we're theonly country to have landed by
the 70s.
Right, we had a 13 year program, the Apollo program, that we
landed several times and we justdecided to scrap the program.
We just decided to scrap thatprogram.
(41:04):
We were like, ok, ben, they'redone that you want to?
Speaker 1 (41:07):
go back T-shirts.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah, t-shirts like Ben, they're done that, the moon
what, ok?
And then no other country hasdecided to do this.
They were like nah, America'sdone it Right, it's all good,
right.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
We're the best, yeah, ok, no one can compete with us.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yeah, apparently not.
That's one reason.
And so of course I looked intowhy NASA says we have not been
back.
Because, again, I just find itridiculous.
They say because it's tooexpensive.
I'm like, wow, this is comingfrom the country that prints its
own money.
Too expensive, just print outmore money, ok, ok, I know
(41:48):
that's not how it works.
Before people were like it's abad recipe.
It doesn't work that way.
But really because?
So when I looked at so,apparently according to the
Planetary Society which isPlanetary, I think, org the
total lunar effort between 1960to 1973, adjusted for inflation,
(42:10):
is about 280 billion.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
So no small chunk 280 billion, 280 billion yes, oh my
.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
God Adjusted for inflation, so expensive, okay,
but it was also a 13-yearprogram.
So you know, you did thedivision.
I'm like, okay, well, you'retelling me from 1973 to 2024,
we've now wanted to go not onceand throw in a few billion
dollars.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
I mean, we throw billions of dollars on other
things.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Let me just explain to you.
So Iraq, the Iraq war, as of2014, was 115 billion Wait, and
that was 815 billion, 815, 815billion and that cost War is
money.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
So don't.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Yeah, I'm like guys don't be like.
Oh, my God de Marys, you madethat figure up.
No, I didn't.
It was from the cost of Iraq,Afghanistan and other global war
on terror operations since 1911by Amy Belasco, a specialist in
the US defense policy budget oha specialist December 8, 2014.
(43:13):
This was a white paper and donefor Congress, so it's official.
So, yeah, 815 billion.
So, and you're telling me thatwe couldn't have 280 billion was
for 13 years and for severalmissions.
We couldn't have done onemission for some like 50 billion
dollars.
The math is a method.
(43:34):
So another thing the astronautscalled the president from the
moon to his landline.
Like I needed the president tobe on, like a satellite phone,
because that's the only wayyou're actually getting the
connection right, right, but youget the call on your left.
I'm confused.
Hello, right, okay, they likedhim.
So you just don't understandthe signs behind that.
(44:00):
Okay, maybe I don't, but to methat doesn't really make a lot
of sense.
And the funny thing is that, ohso, one of my good friends.
She grew up in the DC area, soher family is pretty well
connected from that area and herfather obtained an autograph
(44:22):
from Buzz Aldrin one of theastronauts that landed quote on
the moon and I'll go into herapartment and she has it on her
wall.
I looked at it, I said I pointedto it and I said fake news.
You know that didn't happen,right?
I said you know that did nothappen.
She's just slightly me alone.
I got blessed.
(44:42):
I guess she just left me rightwith it.
It was just like whatever to me.
I'm just saying that didn'thappen and honestly, it was
kicked off because of thisdocumentary that was released
that I can't find anywhere, butit was released like in the
early 2000s and it was on likeChannel five in New York City
and it was about how the moonlanding was fake and I was dying
(45:02):
.
But you know what, I shouldhave just assumed that it really
happened because, again, thiswas all part of the propaganda
to really rally Americans upabout like we're going to beat
the USSR and get to the moonfirst and stick a flag there and
that's all we're going to doand come back and do it five
more times and never go back.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
They play on our ignorance all the time.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
And like and so, and again on the anxiety.
Oh, you know, communism isspreading.
We need to be careful, weshould be fearful.
I mean, I just told you aboutOperation Mockingbird and that
was the propaganda machine fromthe CIA.
So look, 12 astronauts havewalked the moon, for there are
only four still living.
It's easy to control 12.
(45:48):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
So I'm saying easy to control 12 people.
So I'm saying but that's it.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
That's the only one that I'm like yeah like I might
just need to be tortured todeath because I was like no, it
didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
We decided not going to be tortured.
I don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
I still don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Right, didn't happen.
Negative.
Look at the picture.
Yeah, yeah, you mean thepicture that was taken in the
Hollywood studio.
See, this is what I'm saying,like I can't.
I can't even get into it, butyou know, plausible, I'm not
crazy.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
No, it is plausible.
Like again being open-mindedand hearing your thoughts about
that.
That all makes sense.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
I enjoy this a lot and I'm glad I was able to
expose myself on being reallyvulnerable here, guys, by
sharing this with you, and Ihope you can appreciate the
vulnerability that I shared withyou guys about the conspiracy
theory that I believe to be true.
And so I'm also excited thatthis is the last episode of the
(46:59):
season, because I think we'vehad a great season and I'm happy
to close out with this and, youknow, just enjoy some time to
prepare for the next season,because it's always going to be
exciting stuff, and we reallyappreciate the support that our
listeners have been providing,because you really are part of
our tribe, so I appreciate allof you.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Yes, we so appreciate y'all.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Awesome, and so, as always, going to close with
there's a lot of noise out there.
I just walked through what thatnoise was.
All these operations.
Shut it up, but our message isconsistent Stop getting
distracted by the smokingmirrors, tune out the noise,
focus on your purpose in life,breathe people, breathe, breathe
(47:45):
, breathe.
We're meant to be joyful, sofocus on that, vibrate higher
and always.
Thank you for listening.
So, that said, don't forget tosubscribe to our channel and
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(48:07):
time.
Bye 2.
Join us as we explore conspiracy theories and examine
evidence and psychologicalfactors.
Let's challenge our perceptionsand uncover the truth, and take
the red pill and see how deepthe rabbit hole goes.
Welcome to another episode ofI'm Not Yellen, I'm Dominican,
(00:25):
podcast, hosted by Nachi andDemaris.
Hey family, it's your girl,nachi, and I'm here with Demaris
, affectionately known by herfamily as the slim reaper.
If y'all know, y'all know, justsaying Right, right.
But, fam, I don't know.
(00:48):
If y'all ready, I need to askare y'all ready to take this red
pill with us and Think aboutall the things that you thought
might be Real?
I mean, does everything seem asit is, as it appears to you?
Hell, no, don't know.
(01:14):
I don't know, and you know whatthis is, what we're gonna get
into, so this is gonna be a goodone.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
It sure is, because I just truly believe we should go
around in life with a healthydose of skepticism.
I Do not believe in living lifeas a Smurf, and when I say smurf
I mean Basically you walkaround like no, no, no, stop.
(01:44):
I call my niece and nephewsmurfs because they're like a
couple of polyan is.
They think life is great andyou can trust everyone, and the
reality is no.
But not that you go around likea paranoid person, but a
healthy dose of skepticism is agood balance to have in life and
I'm really excited about thistopic because it's fun.
(02:06):
It's our last episode of theseason and it's it's in the
world of conspiracy theories.
Right.
Every time society, especiallywhen anxiety is up in in you
know, during a phase in society,conspiracy theories are
(02:27):
Correlated with that.
You know they go up just asmuch.
And so If we break down justthe word right, conspiracy is a
secret plan by a group to dosomething unlawful or harmful.
That's the word conspiracy.
And then the word theory andbasically, basically Real talk,
(02:54):
magic, come on, slow down, Iknow, I know.
And then theory, by definition,is Speculative idea or plan as
to how something might be done,the keyword here being
speculative, right?
So there's no proof of that yet.
(03:15):
And so when I was looking athow conspiracy theory is defined
, you know there were a lot ofsources and, honestly, all of
them were consistent if you lookat it.
And and they looked atconspiracy theory as an attempt
to explain harmful or tragicevents as a result of the
(03:37):
actions of a small powerfulgroup.
Such explanations Reject theaccepted narrative that
surrounding those events, indeed, the official version may be
seen as further proof of theconspiracy, and so, and that one
came from Britannica, but therewas everything that I read.
They looked at it that way andand it was really the rejection
(04:00):
of the evidence that may existand the lack of evidence to
prove that said conspiracytheory is Is actually factual.
So it takes me back when we,when we just kicked off this
episode, this idea, and youalready Said, isn't that our
government a conspiracy?
(04:20):
You know, um, I have certainstrong feelings about that.
You might hear it throughoutthe show.
I don't want to just come outwith a straight-up answer.
But right, do you reallybelieve Everything the
government says?
I mean, and if so, I'm judgingyou Secretly, and not so
secretly, I'm kind of judgingyou.
(04:41):
So don't tell me.
If you're a good friend of mineand and you're like, oh my god,
I believe everything thegovernment says and does is for
our best interest, yeah, no, Idon't believe that and history
has shown that to not be true.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, cuz they had.
They are very good at paintingcertain pictures and using
People's biases to promotecertain propaganda.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean the, and also thegovernment just has a history of
lying to its citizens.
Yes, so why would I believeeverything that it says to be a
hundred percent facts or genuine, like I think that's just so?
That to me doesn't make sense,like just from a logical
standpoint.
If you've lied repeatedly to me, am I really gonna trust
(05:34):
everything that comes out yourmouth?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I'm gonna question it , yes.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I'm gonna question it , rightfully, so I'm.
Some people may be like oh mygoodness, to marriage.
You're exaggerating.
Everything they've done is okay.
I'm sorry, 70% okay.
Again, the question still standsam I going to believe
everything you say?
Ask fact or ask truth?
No, fact is one thing, buttruth, no, no, no.
(06:01):
And so I Think that's also whyconspiracy theories are so
triggering, right, because theythey speak to a bias that may
already exist and they feed offof people's anxieties, and so
what we're gonna share today, Imean this is again, this is
intended to be a Fun one for us.
(06:23):
You may not find conspiracytheories fun, but I find it
entertaining because I don'tlive my life like a smurf.
Maybe you do, maybe you don't,maybe you down with us and
you're interested in this redpill.
So I wanted to get into,actually, the most outrageous
theories that turned out to betrue.
So they're no longer conspiracytheories, because the term
(06:45):
conspiracy theories implies thatit's theoretical and there's no
, there's no proof that they'retrue.
But these conspiracies actuallyhappen, oh my gosh.
And surprise, surprise,surprise, surprise, the ones
that I'm going to talk abouttoday are all done by the
government.
Oh, Mmm are you ready?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Nachi.
Yes, tell me what we got.
What we got, what we got.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Okay, we're gonna start with the first one, which
to me is kind of like prettyoutrageous.
So I don't know if you heard ofMK.
Yes, so it was a project run bythe CIA.
Oh, wow, surprise, surprise,from 1953 to 1973, right, and it
was an illegal humanexperimentation program designed
(07:36):
and undertaken by the USCentral Intelligence Agency,
which is known as the CIA, andintended to develop Procedures
and identify drugs that could beused during interrogations to
weaken people and forceConfessions through brainwashing
and psychological torture.
So this was big in the 50s,because America was afraid of
(08:00):
communism and Soviet spies andall the like, and so they
developed this program to to tryto infiltrate and Identify
spies and and create what theytermed as a truth serum right.
But in doing so, they Not onlyexperimented on people that may
(08:22):
have consented, but the consentwas dubious at best.
They also did it on onconsenting US citizens, canadian
citizens, they and militarystaff that they threatened with
court marshals if they tried toExpose the program.
They had labs around the worlddoing experiments and they there
(08:46):
were CIA connected Institutionsthat ran these said experiments
.
They use this, they use LSD onthese individuals and they
occasionally tortured theparticipants as well.
They paid hospitals, prisons,universities for their
participation and their silence.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Did you hear prison Prisons.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Right, Come on.
So this.
Of course they were exposedeventually and they were ex and
so in 73, the CIA director,Richard Helms, ordered that all
documents related to MK Altru bedestroyed.
He said oh shit, fucking, burnit all.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I'm not even kidding.
Oh, my goodness.
And this was in the 1950s.
You said To 73.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
It was a 20 year program.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And the reason why I can say that this is an actual
conspiracy is because they hadcongressional hearings in the
late 70s, but guess what?
Because Richard Helms was likeyo shred all that shit up.
There was nothing they had,they didn't have enough evidence
and all the people that ofcourse, that were that were
testifying.
(10:05):
They're like I don't recall 20years, I don't recall, I don't
know what happened, and so theythe information that we do have
that has been declassified areabout 20,000 pages that were
moved to a different office thathadn't been destroyed because
it was misplaced there, and thatis the only reason.
(10:27):
But it doesn't really giveenough information because I
think it was a lot more about,as it relates to the, the budget
of the program and otherdetails, but not so much the
experiments.
But there was some informationthere that they were able to
extract and that's why they hadthese congressional hearings.
Okay, there was actually acommittee in the 70s to
(10:49):
investigate the work that theCIA and the FBI was doing, but
yet those organizations stillexist.
And so when I say three letteragencies are four letter words.
This is what I'm talking about.
You think they care about you,your existence as a citizen.
They're willing to sacrifice anexperiment on you so that they
can, oh, get a, get an edge overthe Soviet Union.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Really Unconsenting and scary and scary at the same
time.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Extremely scary, extremely scary.
That was number one, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Moving on to You're like we're not done.
We're not done, there's more.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
No, no, no, no.
The next conspir, yeah, oh yeah, no, no, no the thing.
I'm trying to keep this episodeshort, but, guys, there's a
treasure trove of this.
I'm like not just in thebeginning, it's a whole rabbit
hole and I love it.
I'm here for it.
I'm your little rabbit hole guy.
Let's do it.
Let's be like Thelma.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Louise, no, yeah, yeah.
You love telling me like, doyou know who, who was part of
this organization and how, thatyou would link the money Like
you?
All you have to say is followthe money and I would tell you
what to do.
Don't I always say that Iactually do it.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yes, and I do it, and you map it out for me.
Yes, guess who funded that?
Oh right, Right.
So, yeah, I love this.
What's the next one?
What's the next one?
Surprise, surprise, this agencyagain.
Gosh, darn it, the CIACollaborating with the media for
(12:24):
propaganda purposes.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
So, yeah, so they have this thing, of course,
declassified.
Now, operation Mockingbird,this is called the CIA
propaganda machine.
Y'all hear this.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
So this is right.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Well, this is declassified from the 50s.
Please, let's not pretend thatthe CIA is still in existence,
which means that they still haveprograms in place.
So I wonder maybe they're notfollowing us, Because why would
they do that Even if they have?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
a history that was 20 , 30, 40 years ago.
Come on guys Right.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
They care about your rights.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Now they care about you as a citizen.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yes, they really do so.
In 48, this guy, frank Weisner,was appointed as the director
of this special projects group.
Anybody that is appointed tospecial projects you need to
watch out for those specialprojects.
I never the kind of special youthink they are, but anyway, and
(13:33):
they were.
The CIA eventually took controlof this special project office
and this guy, frank Weisner, hewas.
The purpose of taking control ofthis organization was to
maintain a secret campaign toinfluence media around the world
(13:54):
for almost 25 years.
The get 25 years.
I'm sure it's continued, butthey just like no, it ended 25
years.
Anyway, weisner, yeah, this guyWeisner, who is the director of
this office he owned, respectedmembers of.
Guess what?
You want to know what kind ofpublications they still exist
(14:18):
the New York Times, newsweek,cbs and other media outlets.
By the 50s there were around3000 CIA employees and dozens of
large global media outletsworking to maintain this complex
propaganda machine.
But I know they must have allgot fired immediately after.
(14:41):
So, guys, don't worry, likethey were, they were fired
immediately when this was.
This program ended it becausethey weren't directed by a
higher right, oh my gosh.
Yes, so.
So at this time, what they weretrying to influence was trying
(15:05):
to convince the public howterrible communism was and the
dangers of it, and facilitatedthe 1954 animated Hollywood
production of George Orwell'sAnimal Farm.
Yeah, the book is fantastic.
(15:25):
So the church committee is theone that exposed the conspiracy
in 1975.
And they calculated thatmisinforming the world cost
taxpayers $265 million a year.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So yeah, and this church committee is the one, the
same committee that exposed theother MK Ultra.
But I want to where the churchcommittee is now.
I wonder what happened inCongress.
They should focus on foreignforeign affairs and bullshit
like that.
Yeah.
So that that's interesting, andwhat's funny is that something
(16:04):
else that I came across that tome is very related to this, but
though not a direct link butdefinitely dotted lines, is that
there was a US patent, and thispatent number is 6506148 B, as
(16:25):
in boy two.
It's called nervous systemmanipulation by electromagnetic
field from monitors.
So I'm just going to read toyou a summary of what that means
.
So computer monitors and TVmonitors can be made to emit
weak, low frequencyelectromagnetic field merely by
(16:46):
pulsing the intensity ofdisplayed images.
So basically all this, and tosum up in one sentence, is that
a TV monitor or computer monitorcan be used to manipulate the
nervous system of nearby people.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
This is a lot.
There's a whole bunch of uswith anxiety and all sorts of
nervous system issues, butactually we don't know if it's
being used for that.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
You know there is.
There is this idea of usingthis nervous energy that we
admit when we're anxious.
I believe it's called lush andit's that is what drives a lot
of these vehicles to create aperpetual state of fear for you,
(17:37):
because they need that energyof you being anxious, of you
constantly being stressed out.
This is why, as a formerself-care, I do not watch the
news.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, I don't either.
Yeah, no, and it's interestingbecause I think about I was just
thinking about this the otherday how anxiety it seems like
everyone is suffering from that,even myself, even myself.
And I try I'll do things likeyourself, like I would not watch
(18:11):
the news.
You know, I'm limited to theamount of news that I take in on
a daily basis.
But I also do things to help mynervous system, like I'll
meditate or I'll do yoga or if Iknow that I'm getting more
(18:34):
anxious, I make sure that I'mtaking my herbal teas.
that's that helps with mynervous system, but it's
interesting that you say thatthis was part of their plan.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, yeah.
So well, this patent hasnothing to do with the CIA, but
I'm sharing it because when yousee the hear about this
operation Mockingbird and thisidea of manipulating and
controlling the media to pushout certain propaganda messages
(19:11):
on behalf of the government,it's not crazy to see how, now
that the fact that there is apatent out there to emit certain
frequencies that actuallyaffect our nervous system, like
that's crazy.
You know, I'm not here to saythat it's being used for evil
(19:32):
purposes or not, I don't know.
I'm just telling you thatthere's a patent out there and
it exists.
This is actually a thing Ithink the patent is from like
2001.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
2001.
, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
So who's to say, like , how this is being used or not?
We have no idea.
But again, we're not sharingthis to scare people.
This information is to makepeople aware, like you need to
be aware.
You need to be a consciousbeing and make mindful decisions
.
Be present.
(20:05):
Don't do things as if you're arobot, as if you're an NPC.
Like your main character, actlike one.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
But it's like remember, was it Arsenio Hall?
I'm aging myself, but he alwaysused to have a segment that
went anything, things that makeyou go, hmm.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Oh, oh, my goodness, right, right.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
That's how you have to be on a daily basis.
That's it.
Things like this that come upto your you know that you're
knowledgeable about, makes youwant to think about it.
That's it Like.
What's this about and how canit be applied to me?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Exactly, and this is why, when we talk about reducing
time on screen, yeah, becausewe use a lot more devices.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Now we don't it's not TV, we have our laptop, we have
our phone, iPads all certainand like why they say you
shouldn't have your phone inyour bedroom.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
The Wi-Fi, like all these frequencies, yeah, it's
disruptive, but you know we cango down the whole radical with
that.
All sorts of things, everything.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, that's hmm.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah.
So I thought it was nice toconnect those two, just in the
fact that they're in the realmof here's how we consume
information.
You usually put it with TV,some sort of monitor, whether
it's TV, a computer, your phonedevice, whatever, so so the next
one is also a very interestingone, and some people may be
(21:39):
familiar with this because ofthe show on Amazon that it was
based off of, it's OperationPaperclip.
This is where Nazi scientistsfind employment in America and,
as I mentioned already, therewas a show on Amazon that came
out, I want to say, in 2020 or2021, about these Nazi
(22:00):
scientists that were undercoverin the US and working as yeah,
I'm like, great, you haveemployment.
That's wonderful, even thoughyou're a part of this regime.
What's interesting is that,just to describe this, this is
so.
It was a joint intelligenceagency that gave authorization
to provide 1500 Germanscientists, technicians and
(22:24):
engineers from Nazi Germanyemployment in America and
apparently some other countries,but primarily German scientists
, and President Schumann agreedto this program with the
explicit instruction that itonly include those who were not
found to have been a member ofthe Nazi party and, I guess, no
(22:46):
more than a nominal participantin its activities or an active
support of Nazi militarism.
Okay, so this meant that therewere certain really big named
scientists Wernher von Braun,arthur Rudolph and Hubertus
Strunkhold who were listed as amenace to the security of the
(23:06):
Allied forces.
So the Allied forces, that'sthe other countries they're like
, these people are terrible.
So they, under this program,under Truman, would not fit the
requirements of being allowed tofind new employment in America.
But our lovely jointintelligence objectives agency
decided that these guys werevital importance to the
(23:29):
development of the US rocketprogram.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So they falsified documentation.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
They falsified their employment and political
biographies so that and also,along the way, completely
destroyed all evidenceconnecting them to the Nazi war
machine.
So this government loves havinga history of destroying
evidence that will connect themto harmful and wrongdoing.
(23:57):
But I thought that was okay,not surprising.
But again, I know some of you.
You're like I love thisgovernment, I'm dying of sword
for it.
Congratulations, yeah,congratulations, because they
give two fucks about you.
(24:17):
Come on, come on Right.
By all means, by all means, dowhat you know what feels best.
And then the last one, which ismy favorite, and you'll know
why not you, is the Tuskegeeexperiment.
The US government loves toexperiment on its citizens, yeah
(24:38):
, yeah, yeah.
So so in 1932, the US publichealth service, with the CDC,
yeah, yeah, cdc.
The good old conspire to createa phony syphilis treatment
program.
So in this program there werelying to up to almost 400
(25:06):
African American men who hadbeen diagnosed with syphilis,
and they were.
This was apparently onlysupposed to have lasted for six
months but it took until.
But this program didn't until1972.
And of course that's when itbecame public.
Only because it became publicand the government was forced to
(25:28):
investigate and shut down theprogram.
But for 40 years these men weregiven dangerous chemicals,
offered painful and unnecessarymedical procedures under the
guise of actual treatment.
So they were lied to, eventhough during that timeframe
penicillin had come out to showthat and it was shown to have
(25:51):
cured syphilis.
But they didn't give them that.
They gave them placebo's andthey hid that from patients,
even though they told thepatients that in this program we
will help you with medical careLies fraudulent.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
As usual.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
So the re, and they did this so that the researchers
could learn about the disease.
That's wonderful.
These poor black men and theirfamilies, because also some
their spouses, they got infectedor sometimes their children
were born with this, withcongenital syphilis, something
like that.
They were never treated and atleast over at a minimum 100 died
(26:32):
either directly from syphilisor from complications that came
from syphilis.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
That burns me up.
And in case any of y'all think,oh, this is just the only time,
no, I want y'all to read thisbook called Medical Apathide.
It is from is written byHarriet Washington, and this she
talks about the history ofmedical experimentation on black
(27:01):
Americans from colonial timesto present.
This is not the only time noexperiment on black people.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Absolutely not.
And the other thing, too, isthat you might hear well, the
CDC did this a while ago.
No, the program ended in 1972.
We don't even know about theother programs right now.
This program ended in 1972.
We're talking about literally50, a little over 50 years.
(27:32):
That's people, that's likeseveral generations lifetimes
right now.
Like people are alive duringthat time period, like, stop,
1972 is when it ended.
And only because they gotexposed.
So please miss me with thebullshit, miss me with it.
Like, well, they wouldn't dothat now.
(27:53):
Okay, well, you could be theguinea pig.
I choose not to be.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Oh my gosh.
No, they are still doing it.
Now you need to realize thatand that's why you need to
question it.
But you know we'll get to thatlater.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think what people fail torealize is that the government
is here to work for the citizens.
They are here to serve citizens, not the other way around.
I am not here to serve thegovernment.
The government was created toserve the citizens of this
(28:28):
country, and what it does isthat it tries to pretend that.
Oh no, no, like you don't needto tell me how to live my life,
nor are you, are you givenpermission to experiment on my
life.
You are here because you takemy tax dollars and I need you to
do the job that you need to do.
And I need you to just takeseveral seats, take several
(28:51):
seats, and so those are nottheories.
Those were all conspiraciesthat were planned by groups of
government officials to do harmto people, so they can't be
argued because those were actualdeclassified programs and their
(29:13):
documentation of these events,which I say.
All of this again, this is notto add fear mongering, because
if I wanted to, I could presentto you a bunch of conspiracy
theories that are current day,but I choose not to because it's
irrelevant, right?
(29:33):
Because at the end of the day,you need to be focused on how to
live your best life and how toincrease your frequency so that
stuff like this doesn't affectyou the same way.
Like, I'm not consuming thisstuff all the time, but I am
aware of it, so that I don't goout there like some Pollyanna
(29:56):
and think, okay, yes, well, no,I always ask the questions, and
this is where we've talked aboutthis.
We're talking about it in thisepisode and in other episodes.
Is this idea of criticalthinking and discernment, and so
let's talk about how do wepractice that, right?
Like?
I think I'll start with myself,and part of it is intelligently
(30:18):
analyzing the data.
When the math does a math, themath does a math.
It's as simple as that.
I'm like okay, two plus twoshould not equal eight.
Yeah, it should be four, andthis isn't adding up.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
No, yeah, yeah exactly, exactly, exactly,
exactly, exactly exactly isdoing that research, is doing
the research, and you know, thisis why we're talking about like
you know, we're talking aboutmedical experimentation and
(30:54):
being able to ensure that youhave, you give an informed
consent, which means you have tounderstand what's being done to
you.
And if you don't understand, youneed to question it, not just
go with what that provider orthat healthcare professional is
(31:16):
telling you to do, because youneed to know what's happening to
you and this is right for you.
Yes, they may have you knowtheir, their own, professional
background, but again, you stillhave to question and these are
(31:37):
things that's happening to you.
So you have to be able toquestion and question anything
that you're being told that youhave to do.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Right, and that's yeah, it's, you're right, and
for me, when I come acrossanything, I question the
motivation.
That's how I dig deeper.
It's asking the question well,who benefits from this?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Because I'm going to tell you this right now when the
government says jump, I don'task how high, I just start
adding more stuff to my bug outbag.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Okay, I see where this is going.
This is, this is how I operate.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Let me get my prep bag Right.
Right, Y'all not catching meout here in these streets Like
no, it's not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I'm not kidding, I don't know how to say it.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Right, right, my two baby cats and my husband.
We are out of here, like, don'tplay with me.
You said do what now?
Okay, I, that's not going tohappen.
Okay, I need why?
Because I need to make aninformed decision, I need to
make a conscious decision.
So I do that by investigating,I do that by digging deeper,
(32:54):
asking question the motivation.
Who benefits from this?
And I always, always, always,always, always, always, always,
always, always, always, always,always, always, always, always,
always.
Follow the money.
And I'll tell you this thegovernment, not just the
government, private companies.
(33:15):
They are by law forced todisclose a lot of information.
They benefit because someAmericans have a really short
memory.
They benefit by Americanshaving a short memory and, just
(33:35):
like, the whole reason of whyI'm sharing all of these
conspiracies that occurred isthat they happen in less than
the last 100 years and this isjust again.
This is for you not to forgetthat this has happened.
So there's no reason todayRight.
(33:58):
So there's no reason why thisstill couldn't be happening
because they've not shown methat they've changed their ways.
Any case, like I was saying,they're required to disclose a
lot of information, and thatincludes public facing companies
, and so you don't have to do alot of digging to get to unearth
the weird connections Literallygo into the about us of a lot
(34:24):
of these companies.
Look at the board of directors,click on that.
You'll see their bios.
You'll let oh, this makes sense.
What do you mean?
This guy served as the directorof FDA and now he's on the
board of Pfizer.
I'm just saying Nothing againstPfizer, nothing against the FDA
.
I'm just saying look at that,wow, what a coincidence, Cause
(34:46):
the FDA is an organization, is athree letter organization that
has to prove the drugs that comefrom the pharmaceutical
companies.
I mean, that's not a weirdconnection, right?
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Is that not a conflict of interest?
Speaker 2 (35:01):
No, cause he no longer works for she, right, she
or he no longer work for theFDA.
Okay okay, oh right, but youdon't have friends there anymore
.
Oh wait, you do, but thatdoesn't mean that that
influences their decision not tochill, not to chill.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
That's not what I'm implying.
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
It's not what I'm implying, I'm just speaking with
the idea of critical thinking.
Just put that thinking cap,remember, in grammar school they
would like put your thinkingcap on.
So my thinking cap has been onwith crazy glue and has never
really taken off.
My thinking cap has been gluedonto my head so and I thankfully
(35:45):
leave it there.
Adam usually is like could youplease stop thinking and stop
reading labels and stop tellingme what?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I can or cannot read to Leave me alone, leave me
alone.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yes, yes, he's like can we watch this show without
you spewing out how this is allbullshit?
I know, I know, but they bankon people not reading and the
majority of people don't read,they just go by, you know, or
whatever, or peel right or peelthat first layer, Like I'm
telling you, you do not evenhave to dig deep, like I just
(36:15):
told you, I went to the about asection.
I was like, oh, this person, oh, that's interesting, what an
odd coincidence.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
You think that's too much into it.
Samaris, come on.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
And actually I leave it at that.
That's a coincidence, fantasticA coincidence that I've put is
in my now file.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Okay, thank you.
Right, things that make you go,not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Right, right I mean.
But honestly what they say, youbenefit from critical thinking
through heightenedself-reflection.
I'm always asking myself thequestions yeah, I'm gaining a
profound understanding of my ownbiases, yes, and areas for
improvement, all true.
(36:58):
Just a healthy dose ofskepticism.
I'm not going out here likeeverything that these
pharmaceutical companies do isevil and trash.
No, look, there are benefits.
People need certain drugs, yeahyeah.
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
But it's having that open-mindedness that you're, you
know it's being able to.
Okay, this is what my beliefsare, based on my research.
If you have something tocounter what I've read and my
understanding of it, I'm open tohearing that.
Tell me what, absolutely, andthat's what it's all about.
(37:36):
It's not about like oh, this isit and that's it.
No, it has to be a level ofopen-mindedness where we can
have a conversation and adialogue around these things and
not be labeled as a conspiracytheorist, you know, or something
.
Why?
Because we question.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I'm just a critical thinker.
I just I like to connect dots.
I love puzzles not.
You could tell you this.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I love puzzles.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I love.
My husband is always talkingabout how I should have been an
investigator.
I should have been in lawenforcement because I love to
play detective and I do, I do, Ido.
It is a hobby, so don't try me.
Just letting you know she's adetective.
Yes, yes, yes, I'm an internetsleuth, but.
But I wanted to get into alittle fun thing about what is a
(38:23):
conspiracy theory that youbelieve to be true, but
obviously, because it's still atheory, we don't know if it's
actually true.
But what is that one conspiracytheory for you?
I can't wait to get into mylife.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Well, okay.
So y'all know, when you seethis trail of thin white cloud
like that streaks across the skyand you know they call it
chemtrails I really don't thinkthat there's something that
(38:55):
they're putting out there in theair Now.
I don't know what it is.
It may affect us.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I don't know.
It's good stuff.
It's probably like popery thatI wanted to smell good for the
rest of the world.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
But it's interesting because I see it and I'm like
hmm, what is that?
Speaker 2 (39:13):
And we didn't see it that much growing up.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
No.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Like the last 20, 15 years, I see it quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I see it quite a bit and I wonder what's that about?
You know something you know tothink about.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
And then we don't want people to ask questions.
This is a dummy.
Sprinkle, don't ask any morequestions.
Find your business, sprinkle alittle dust over you.
We're not doing anything overhere.
Sprinkle, sprinkle, sprinkle.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
I'm just telling my kids I'm like, you see that
those are chemtrails.
They look at me like what?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Like oh my god, mom, Where's the bunker?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
They're putting something out here and I feel
like it's affecting us in somekind of way.
I don't know yet.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I'll find out, but we'll find out in 20 years.
Have like another, have likebaby Quaddoo coming out of our?
belly from total recall, girl.
Ok, ok, so mine is the moonlanding.
I don't, I do not believe welanded on the moon, I just don't
(40:18):
.
And you know, before you getall crazy out there like, oh my
god, I bet you a flat earth, no,no, I'm not.
I just don't believe we landedon the moon.
And simply by logic, I'm justgoing by logic.
I've told you guys a milliontimes I'm like a Vulcan.
To me, if it doesn't make sense, it just doesn't add up.
And so here are the reasons why, to me, it doesn't make sense.
(40:42):
So, starting off, we're theonly country to have landed by
the 70s.
Right, we had a 13 year program, the Apollo program, that we
landed several times and we justdecided to scrap the program.
We just decided to scrap thatprogram.
(41:04):
We were like, ok, ben, they'redone that you want to?
Speaker 1 (41:07):
go back T-shirts.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah, t-shirts like Ben, they're done that, the moon
what, ok?
And then no other country hasdecided to do this.
They were like nah, America'sdone it Right, it's all good,
right.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
We're the best, yeah, ok, no one can compete with us.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yeah, apparently not.
That's one reason.
And so of course I looked intowhy NASA says we have not been
back.
Because, again, I just find itridiculous.
They say because it's tooexpensive.
I'm like, wow, this is comingfrom the country that prints its
own money.
Too expensive, just print outmore money, ok, ok, I know
(41:48):
that's not how it works.
Before people were like it's abad recipe.
It doesn't work that way.
But really because?
So when I looked at so,apparently according to the
Planetary Society which isPlanetary, I think, org the
total lunar effort between 1960to 1973, adjusted for inflation,
(42:10):
is about 280 billion.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
So no small chunk 280 billion, 280 billion yes, oh my
.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
God Adjusted for inflation, so expensive, okay,
but it was also a 13-yearprogram.
So you know, you did thedivision.
I'm like, okay, well, you'retelling me from 1973 to 2024,
we've now wanted to go not onceand throw in a few billion
dollars.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
I mean, we throw billions of dollars on other
things.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Let me just explain to you.
So Iraq, the Iraq war, as of2014, was 115 billion Wait, and
that was 815 billion, 815, 815billion and that cost War is
money.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
So don't.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Yeah, I'm like guys don't be like.
Oh, my God de Marys, you madethat figure up.
No, I didn't.
It was from the cost of Iraq,Afghanistan and other global war
on terror operations since 1911by Amy Belasco, a specialist in
the US defense policy budget oha specialist December 8, 2014.
(43:13):
This was a white paper and donefor Congress, so it's official.
So, yeah, 815 billion.
So, and you're telling me thatwe couldn't have 280 billion was
for 13 years and for severalmissions.
We couldn't have done onemission for some like 50 billion
dollars.
The math is a method.
(43:34):
So another thing the astronautscalled the president from the
moon to his landline.
Like I needed the president tobe on, like a satellite phone,
because that's the only wayyou're actually getting the
connection right, right, but youget the call on your left.
I'm confused.
Hello, right, okay, they likedhim.
So you just don't understandthe signs behind that.
(44:00):
Okay, maybe I don't, but to methat doesn't really make a lot
of sense.
And the funny thing is that, ohso, one of my good friends.
She grew up in the DC area, soher family is pretty well
connected from that area and herfather obtained an autograph
(44:22):
from Buzz Aldrin one of theastronauts that landed quote on
the moon and I'll go into herapartment and she has it on her
wall.
I looked at it, I said I pointedto it and I said fake news.
You know that didn't happen,right?
I said you know that did nothappen.
She's just slightly me alone.
I got blessed.
(44:42):
I guess she just left me rightwith it.
It was just like whatever to me.
I'm just saying that didn'thappen and honestly, it was
kicked off because of thisdocumentary that was released
that I can't find anywhere, butit was released like in the
early 2000s and it was on likeChannel five in New York City
and it was about how the moonlanding was fake and I was dying
(45:02):
.
But you know what, I shouldhave just assumed that it really
happened because, again, thiswas all part of the propaganda
to really rally Americans upabout like we're going to beat
the USSR and get to the moonfirst and stick a flag there and
that's all we're going to doand come back and do it five
more times and never go back.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
They play on our ignorance all the time.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
And like and so, and again on the anxiety.
Oh, you know, communism isspreading.
We need to be careful, weshould be fearful.
I mean, I just told you aboutOperation Mockingbird and that
was the propaganda machine fromthe CIA.
So look, 12 astronauts havewalked the moon, for there are
only four still living.
It's easy to control 12.
(45:48):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
So I'm saying easy to control 12 people.
So I'm saying but that's it.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
That's the only one that I'm like yeah like I might
just need to be tortured todeath because I was like no, it
didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
We decided not going to be tortured.
I don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
I still don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Right, didn't happen.
Negative.
Look at the picture.
Yeah, yeah, you mean thepicture that was taken in the
Hollywood studio.
See, this is what I'm saying,like I can't.
I can't even get into it, butyou know, plausible, I'm not
crazy.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
No, it is plausible.
Like again being open-mindedand hearing your thoughts about
that.
That all makes sense.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
I enjoy this a lot and I'm glad I was able to
expose myself on being reallyvulnerable here, guys, by
sharing this with you, and Ihope you can appreciate the
vulnerability that I shared withyou guys about the conspiracy
theory that I believe to be true.
And so I'm also excited thatthis is the last episode of the
(46:59):
season, because I think we'vehad a great season and I'm happy
to close out with this and, youknow, just enjoy some time to
prepare for the next season,because it's always going to be
exciting stuff, and we reallyappreciate the support that our
listeners have been providing,because you really are part of
our tribe, so I appreciate allof you.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Yes, we so appreciate y'all.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Awesome, and so, as always, going to close with
there's a lot of noise out there.
I just walked through what thatnoise was.
All these operations.
Shut it up, but our message isconsistent Stop getting
distracted by the smokingmirrors, tune out the noise,
focus on your purpose in life,breathe people, breathe, breathe
(47:45):
, breathe.
We're meant to be joyful, sofocus on that, vibrate higher
and always.
Thank you for listening.
So, that said, don't forget tosubscribe to our channel and
follow us on Instagram, tiktokand Twitter at
I'mnotyellingundascore, and welook forward to talking next
(48:07):
time.
Bye 2.
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