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April 12, 2023 118 mins

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NOTE: This episode was recorded in February, which was prior to the recent allegations regarding Jonathan Majors. 

Happy Wine Wednesday! Candi and Andre join me this week for the home going services of Queen Ramonda and her son King T'Challa in Marvel's Wakanda Forever.

The movie wasted no time addressing the tremendous loss of Chadwick Boseman, so we follow that lead in our discussion and start by talking about the direction Ryan Coogler took in bringing that loss to the screen.  We went into the film thinking there would only be one major loss so it was a surprise when Queen Ramonda was tragically killed.  I ask Candi and Andre to share their thoughts about that narrative decision.  Other topics covered include:

  • Kilmonger's return (ugh)
  • Namor as an antagonist
  • Thoughts on storylines for the returning secondary characters
  • What Wakanda Forever as a meditation on grief and loss meant for it as a Marvel film
  • Ryan's original vision for Wakanda Forever before Chadwick's tragic death
  • Post-credit scene with the wee baby Toussaint 
  • What we would've left on the cutting room floor of this long as* film

And of course we close with our thirst segment, which was inspired by the African American urge to avoid vast bodies of water.  

Thanks so much for listening! Friendly reminder - we drink, we know things, we use adult language, and we have a great time.

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