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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Really interesting.
Really nurtured that skill oftaking care of yourself,
managing finances and justliving around other people,
especially of different cultures.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So at primary school you were managing finances.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, we were given pocket money oh it was a
boarding school.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah, it was a boarding school.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
So the first few months you max out everything in
one week.
That is what managing is, andthen with time you realize you
have to space it out, yeah, yeahyeah, so maybe you eat a toast
today, once a week.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Mandazis, hot mandazis.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hot mandazis yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh nice, nice, nice.
How did you perform?
Or were you just eatingmandazis?
Oh, nice, nice, nice.
How did you perform?
Or were you just eatingmandazis?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I was eating mandazis and performing at the same time
.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You know, we hosted a from Western.
Actually, he told me he used todip his feet in the cold water
to study.
He was a bookworm.
And actually he went to thesame high school.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
As me yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Was that also your history?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
No, you're not doing that.
I was not a bookworm in highschool.
In primary I was, but in highschool I sort of turned down and
relaxed and just went throughlife.
So for him actually it was inprimary school, primary torn
down and relaxed and just wentthrough life.
So for him.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Actually it was in primary school.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Primary.
Yeah, I was I was so takenaback.
Man, yeah, yeah, but I'm notsurprised Primary, it was really
cause this was what wasdetermining where you are going
next, so you really had to toput in.
So for us just waking up earlyreading extra during the weekend
and so on.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
So what time?
Did you wake up.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Around 5.30, 5.30, 6.
Because I think classes werestarting at 7, 7.30.
So you go and do a bit ofreading before the classes start
or after the classes,especially during the weekends.
You set aside some time to justgo and do your own reading.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Oh, interesting.
So you really performed well inclass 8?
Yes, I got 410.
410?
.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Out of 500?
Out of 500.
But any particular experiencethat you remember from my
primary school life um, I thinkit was just uh, that whole
boarding experience was very,was very interesting.
Um, I think uh the school haduh students from all over the
(02:42):
country so so guys from Nairobiwere being brought there to read
, guys from other provinces werebeing brought there.
So it was this goodintroduction to socializing with
other people from differentcultures.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
And which class did you start boarding?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I started class four, so actually I repeated class
four.
Okay, yeah, so when you camefrom another school then my
parents decided that we need torepeat.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, okay, they felt like these other schools were
not doing justice.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, I think we were a bit young.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
And also I think they wanted us to perform better and
so that by the time you'regoing to the next level, you're
at least somewhere, Makes a lotof sense.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Did that impact.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And then it also gave you that good experience.
You learn how the schoolteaches.
That's teaching experience, andthen you continue with it as
opposed to just being dropped,and you continue from where you
left off so the teaching stylewas a bit different.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, of course so the other school, like you,
didn't cover most of the work,or?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
yeah, I mean we covered, but it was, it was a
day school.
It was one of those very local.
Okay, but it was, it was a dayschool.
It was one of those very local.
You know, low budget dayschools.
That day we actually I think itwas last year we went with my
brother and my mom and, and thesame pit latrine that we used to
wash in the morning is stillthere, yeah.
(04:19):
There are no new ones, it'sjust the same.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
But do you understand ?
Now that you're an adult, yousee how things run, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
From how.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
CDF is utilized to how much parents struggle to pay
even that 200 for the securityand stuff.
Yeah, yeah, that's quite anexperience if you think about it
.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's,that's quite an experience if
you think about it.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah and uh in this case, um yeah, you get your 410
and then you go to which schoolI went to?
Uh, the, the best school um,not only in western, but it's a
national school nationally.
It's a national school.
Yeah, french school comes in.
Yeah, yeah.
So how was that?
Same school as nanda?
Yes, there's a national school.
Eh, it's a national school.
(05:03):
French school comes in.
Same school as Nanda.
There's a guy.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I was talking about.
He's a really smart guy.
Actually, if you've not watchedhis podcast, he's still here.
You can go and listen to hisschool, Even with Alfred.
We were just starting.
There's so much we can deep diveinto, especially in tech and
life experiences, and most ofthese guys are still alive, so
they're still living.
(05:25):
So we have time to go throughdifferent experiences, and
actually I recorded it last year, I think a time like this, but
also he lost his dad this year.
He's all resting in peace.
Yeah, so you go to friends campsing.
How was your first first daysin friends?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
like it was really.
It was really good because, um,I think, getting to a space
where you, you, the seniors, arevery, they're very focused,
they're very polished.
So like you're in the rightspace, like you you have
something where the seniors arevery focused.
They're very polished.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So you're in the right space.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
You have something aspirational to look forward to.
There's sports, there'sacademics, there's choir,
there's a good library.
So there's so much to immerseyourself into.
Yeah, so it was really good.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
But for you did you select computer studies as a
subject no I did French andgeography and physics as my
option, so you never didcomputer.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
No, I didn't do computer science or history or
history.
I think the only subject Idecided to proceed with was
French geography and physics.
We learned a bit of history, abit of business studies, but now
I think after Form 2, they givepeople the option to select
(06:53):
which subjects they wanted to doin Form 3 and 4.
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
For him it was really interesting because for him he
really he made a wrong choice.
I think he did music.
Then his friends from, I think,j Quad and other universities.
He saw what they were doingwith their computers back at
home during the long summerholidays and he was like man, I
want to be a computer scientist,Anything else is not important.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Even other computers.
Yeah, we had the computerclasses it was one of the
subjects and guys were doingamazing stuff.
I think the science, thisscience fair, it was called what
?
Science Congress?
Science Congress yeah, guyswere building actual, I think,
mini-basical programs at thattime Using visual Using yes.
Yeah, and they were competingand they were winning, they were
(07:42):
going to nationals.
It was really interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
So for him he went back there and he was like hey,
man, give me another chance.
He was like it's too late foryou, it's too late.
Then I eventually got thatopportunity and he's the Nanda
you know today from thatdecision yeah, so thank you so
much for you.
(08:17):
You're okay, yeah, so yeah,welcome once again to Africa's
Talking Podcasts incollaboration with Impact
(08:40):
Masters.
Podcasts coming to you livefrom Nairobi, kenya, from
Nairobi Kenya.
If you haven't subscribed,please subscribe Like.
Follow comment.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
We love that feedback .
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I'm your host, michael Kemadi.
Or, if you want my MK, I'm MK.
Yeah, check outAfricaStalkingcom.
Provide you SSD SMS mobile dataairtime APIs.
(09:29):
And today our guest, the manhimself, the mover in tech,
alfred Ongere.
Alfred is a highly skilledproduct manager with over seven
years of experience intechnology operations, strategy
(09:51):
and program management,specialized in multiple
industries, including fintechand telecommunications, among
others.
He brings a proven track recordin product development, team
leadership and stakeholdermanagement.
He has experience in agilemethodologies and committed to
delivering products that arerelevant.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
He has experience in agile methodologies and
committed to delivering productsthat are relevant, valuable,
beautiful and simple.
Really interesting.
Really nurtured that skill oftaking care of yourself,
managing finances and justliving around other people,
especially of different cultures.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So at primary school you were managing finances.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, we were given pocket money oh it was a
boarding school.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah, it was a boarding school.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
So the first few months you max out everything in
one week.
That is what managing is, andthen with time you realize you
have to space it out, yeah, yeahyeah, so maybe you eat a toast
today, once a week.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Mandazis, hot mandazis.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hot mandazis yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh nice, nice, nice.
How did you perform?
Or were you just eatingmandazis?
Oh, nice, nice, nice.
How did you perform?
Or were you just eatingmandazis?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I was eating mandazis and performing at the same time
.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You know, we hosted a from Western.
Actually, he told me he used todip his feet in the cold water
to study.
He was a bookworm.
And actually he went to thesame high school.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
As me yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Was that also your history?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
No, you're not doing that.
I was not a bookworm in highschool.
In primary I was, but in highschool I sort of turned down and
relaxed and just went throughlife.
So for him actually it was inprimary school, primary torn
down and relaxed and just wentthrough life.
So for him.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Actually it was in primary school.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Primary.
Yeah, I was I was so takenaback.
Man, yeah, yeah, but I'm notsurprised Primary, it was really
cause this was what wasdetermining where you are going
next, so you really had to toput in.
So for us just waking up earlyreading extra during the weekend
and so on.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
So what time?
Did you wake up.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Around 5.30, 5.30, 6.
Because I think classes werestarting at 7, 7.30.
So you go and do a bit ofreading before the classes start
or after the classes,especially during the weekends.
You set aside some time to justgo and do your own reading.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Oh, interesting.
So you really performed well inclass 8?
Yes, I got 410.
410?
.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Out of 500?
Out of 500.
But any particular experiencethat you remember from my
primary school life um, I thinkit was just uh, that whole
boarding experience was very,was very interesting.
Um, I think uh the school haduh students from all over the
(02:42):
country so so guys from Nairobiwere being brought there to read
, guys from other provinces werebeing brought there.
So it was this goodintroduction to socializing with
other people from differentcultures.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
And which class did you start boarding?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I started class four, so actually I repeated class
four.
Okay, yeah, so when you camefrom another school then my
parents decided that we need torepeat.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, okay, they felt like these other schools were
not doing justice.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, I think we were a bit young.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
And also I think they wanted us to perform better and
so that by the time you'regoing to the next level, you're
at least somewhere, Makes a lotof sense.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Did that impact.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And then it also gave you that good experience.
You learn how the schoolteaches.
That's teaching experience, andthen you continue with it as
opposed to just being dropped,and you continue from where you
left off so the teaching stylewas a bit different.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, of course so the other school, like you,
didn't cover most of the work,or?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
yeah, I mean we covered, but it was, it was a
day school.
It was one of those very local.
Okay, but it was, it was a dayschool.
It was one of those very local.
You know, low budget dayschools.
That day we actually I think itwas last year we went with my
brother and my mom and, and thesame pit latrine that we used to
wash in the morning is stillthere, yeah.
(04:19):
There are no new ones, it'sjust the same.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
But do you understand ?
Now that you're an adult, yousee how things run, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
From how.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
CDF is utilized to how much parents struggle to pay
even that 200 for the securityand stuff.
Yeah, yeah, that's quite anexperience if you think about it
.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's,that's quite an experience if
you think about it.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah and uh in this case, um yeah, you get your 410
and then you go to which schoolI went to?
Uh, the, the best school um,not only in western, but it's a
national school nationally.
It's a national school.
Yeah, french school comes in.
Yeah, yeah.
So how was that?
Same school as nanda?
Yes, there's a national school.
Eh, it's a national school.
(05:03):
French school comes in.
Same school as Nanda.
There's a guy.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I was talking about.
He's a really smart guy.
Actually, if you've not watchedhis podcast, he's still here.
You can go and listen to hisschool, Even with Alfred.
We were just starting.
There's so much we can deep diveinto, especially in tech and
life experiences, and most ofthese guys are still alive, so
they're still living.
(05:25):
So we have time to go throughdifferent experiences, and
actually I recorded it last year, I think a time like this, but
also he lost his dad this year.
He's all resting in peace.
Yeah, so you go to friends campsing.
How was your first first daysin friends?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
like it was really.
It was really good because, um,I think, getting to a space
where you, you, the seniors, arevery, they're very focused,
they're very polished.
So like you're in the rightspace, like you you have
something where the seniors arevery focused.
They're very polished.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So you're in the right space.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
You have something aspirational to look forward to.
There's sports, there'sacademics, there's choir,
there's a good library.
So there's so much to immerseyourself into.
Yeah, so it was really good.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
But for you did you select computer studies as a
subject no I did French andgeography and physics as my
option, so you never didcomputer.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
No, I didn't do computer science or history or
history.
I think the only subject Idecided to proceed with was
French geography and physics.
We learned a bit of history, abit of business studies, but now
I think after Form 2, they givepeople the option to select
(06:53):
which subjects they wanted to doin Form 3 and 4.
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
For him it was really interesting because for him he
really he made a wrong choice.
I think he did music.
Then his friends from, I think,j Quad and other universities.
He saw what they were doingwith their computers back at
home during the long summerholidays and he was like man, I
want to be a computer scientist,Anything else is not important.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Even other computers.
Yeah, we had the computerclasses it was one of the
subjects and guys were doingamazing stuff.
I think the science, thisscience fair, it was called what
?
Science Congress?
Science Congress yeah, guyswere building actual, I think,
mini-basical programs at thattime Using visual Using yes.
Yeah, and they were competingand they were winning, they were
(07:42):
going to nationals.
It was really interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
So for him he went back there and he was like hey,
man, give me another chance.
He was like it's too late foryou, it's too late.
Then I eventually got thatopportunity and he's the Nanda
you know today from thatdecision yeah, so thank you so
much for you.
(08:17):
You're okay, yeah, so yeah,welcome once again to Africa's
Talking Podcasts incollaboration with Impact
(08:40):
Masters.
Podcasts coming to you livefrom Nairobi, kenya, from
Nairobi Kenya.
If you haven't subscribed,please subscribe Like.
Follow comment.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
We love that feedback .
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I'm your host, michael Kemadi.
Or, if you want my MK, I'm MK.
Yeah, check outAfricaStalkingcom.
Provide you SSD SMS mobile dataairtime APIs.
(09:29):
And today our guest, the manhimself, the mover in tech,
alfred Ongere.
Alfred is a highly skilledproduct manager with over seven
years of experience intechnology operations, strategy
(09:51):
and program management,specialized in multiple
industries, including fintechand telecommunications, among
others.
He brings a proven track recordin product development, team
leadership and stakeholdermanagement.
He has experience in agilemethodologies and committed to
delivering products that arerelevant.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
He has experience in agile methodologies and
committed to delivering productsthat are relevant, valuable,
beautiful and simple.
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