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Ever asked a woman about her due date only to find out she’s not expecting? We’ve been there, and in our latest episode, we share these memorable, cringe-worthy moments that come with navigating social dynamics and personal growth. With a blend of sincerity and humor, we reflect on the evolution of our understanding of relationships, and even recount the origins of our quirky pop culture-inspired nicknames. As we plan for the upcoming year, we're combining serious topics with comedic elements to keep things dynamic.

Horror movies meet real life in our discussion about family dynamics, especially when it involves metaphorically (or literally) "possessed" children. Inspired by a film with Mo'Nique and Glenn Close, we speculate humorously about the logistics while tackling the serious side of parental responsibility. Our conversation pivots to the intricacies of unconditional love, forgiveness, and moral dilemmas, particularly through the lens of a mother's love and the justice system's rehabilitative versus punitive roles. From presidential pardons to the dark alleys of rehabilitation, this dialogue is as thought-provoking as it is engaging.

Switching gears, we navigate the murky waters of celebrity influence and societal perceptions of predatory behavior, focusing on figures like R. Kelly and how they impacted us during our formative years. With personal anecdotes peppered throughout, we look at shifting norms in age and relationships, drawing from both humorous and haunting dating stories. We wrap up with a mix of wild dating tales and safety concerns, highlighting the unexpected twists and turns of young love and the red flags we sometimes miss. Join us for laughs, gasps, and plenty of "Did that really happen?" moments.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
I was never educated about feelings and, speaking
candidly, cared less about whoyou was or if you was getting
mad at me.
Cracked jokes on KB.
Once I sorted and pissed himoff.
I kept going Like water underrivers, half frozen.
I asked the chick how manymonths cause her stomach looked
like she was pregnant.
She was just fat.
Told me to go to hell.
Inside of a sentence.
Showed my offsprings things.

(00:34):
Their response showed theydetested it.
What I wanted for them was best, but within it they was
neglecting it.
All right, it's 2025.
Perfect scenario, with noexaggerations or glorifying the
hyperbole.
Spoke wrongly about Shalit whenI should have addressed him
directly.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Could have talked from man to man in a shot.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
when we first connected, cursed my dad out
like no biggie.
Ironically, I was with EricTaylor and stole candy for the
school.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
When Big Cliff worked at the merit station.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
That's a deadly combination to sound up my
father.
In theory green, I'm so wellwith a brother, euless.
I used to skim straight off thetop but he was high so he was
coolest man who'd hit 145th andgot it for wholesale I got mad
and refused to leave till theyreduced the price like curtail
you might call that finessing,but I call it putting us at risk
.
The spot could have got raided,a rude boy could have had one

(01:14):
heck of a plot twist and a guyoutside guitar center made
arrangements to buy histurntable.
But I went inside and boughtone with a warranty to return.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
I actually, I actually decided, when I get,
like, when I turn like 40something, I'm going to just
start going by Kitty.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
What's the background behind that?

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Well, I mean, I don't know you ever saw that 70s show
?

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
The mom's name is Kitty.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
I think it's cute.
I don't know.
People look at that differentlythough.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Oh well, I'll be like almost 50, so it's whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
I guess, Listen, whatever you wanted to go by, I
was going to call you Kitty andI had the alternate version of
why you wanted to be calledKitty.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Well, that part too.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
I was like okay, girl , you got that, what's up, it's
up what's up?

Speaker 4 (02:06):
It's Peaches Ow.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Parrish, my nickname is Beef, okay.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Where's the Beef?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I was always getting in trouble.
I was in the streets, oh soBeef, beef.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
Okay, gotcha, okay, it wasn't no leaf we don't have
no beef in here, right cause Imessed you up no, no, we good.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
I don't want no problems, bitches you heard
about me, right.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I heard you'd be drugging people no diddy, no
diddy, no, bill.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
I heard you'd be drugging people.
I know right.
No ditty, no ditty, go Bill.
So I'm on Perfect Scenario.
You know my real name, governor, miss Tyson, but I go by
Perfect Scenario and once again,this is Imperfect Scenarios.
We want to start off the newyear.
Hopefully, we can get thisgoing.
Once again, we got a couple ofnew people, some people that's

(03:05):
coming back.
I just want to make this anongoing thing.
I'm going to try to get sometopics out, maybe, hopefully,
once or twice a month.
Just keep it simple.
We're going to still have thesame shenanigans With the whole
gang.
Sometimes it's going to beserious, sometimes it's going to
be More comedy.

(03:26):
It's's gonna probably be a lotof a lot of porn again.
Most likely that that did prettywell.
It did pretty well, uh, for thelast two years.
So, um, let's start off with it.
Let's start off with a, a topicthat we, um, that we had
started um prior to therecording, um, that I don't know

(03:48):
.
Cat don't want to talk about it, but you, you could, cat, you
can stay out of this one, butyou can add your two cents into
it because I think, I think itcould go into a couple different
areas and, um, it's more of aless serious um a topic, but I
believe that we could kind ofstretch it to something that's
more um, it's more serious.
Um, we've posed a question,because this is some funny shit,
okay.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
The question was I don't know if you saw the movie
with Monique where one of thekids were possessed and she had
to go to the house that hadAndrea Day in it.
Was it Glenn Close?
Glenn Close, no, I have notseen it had Andrea.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
Day in it.
And was it Glenn Close?
Glenn Close, I want Deliverance.
Yes, no, I have not seen it.
But I heard about the nappypussy.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Oh, I forgot about the nappy pussy part.
She's like you got a nappypussy.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
That's what the child said in the movie.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
No, that's what Glenn Close said.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
They said she played the hell out of it.
Oh she did.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yo, she should have got an Emmy for it.
I know it's not the type ofrole, but she did it.
She did it good Because she wasa white woman with a black
child, right.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
Yes, she was Caucasian, like the Cajuns.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Right.
So yeah, she was a white womanthat dated a black man and had a
black child.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Wait, what's the question Hold?

Speaker 3 (05:06):
on oh, that was actually her child.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
It was her child.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
No, it was the mother .
She was the grandmother?

Speaker 4 (05:11):
She was the grandmother.
I thought there was an adoptionsituation.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
No, no, no, it was actually her grandchild.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
No, because she was biracial.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Biracial right?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Did you see the new Exorcist movie with the two
little girls?
One was black, one was white?

Speaker 4 (05:25):
No, I don't mess with them type of movies.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Oh you sound like Kat .

Speaker 4 (05:28):
See, I just said that , so I don't mess with those
movies.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
So we can still pose the question, though.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
That's fine, but I can't tell you nothing about the
movie.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Okay, but the scenario was that what if your
kid had got possessed right andthen he got, I guess, demonized
or cleaned or whatever.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
You still keep the kid so so it's funny.
So in a movie, this, thislittle the little, the little
girl was going ape shit.
She's doing all like I'mtalking about, like you know the
old school climate doing allkinds of shit, climb the walls
throwing up the sun was fuckedup too.
Oh, the sun was messed up too,and of course they did the um,
did the exorcism and cleaned it,and they made it seem like they
were just going to live happilyever after, like it was the end

(06:11):
of it.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
You're going to look at the kid sideways, but yes,
you keeping a kid.
What do you mean?
But, my thing was.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
But you're going to do it, you're going to throw it
in the trash.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
Well, my thing was is that what if they get demonized
again?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
you know like you know like they catch.
You know like they catch covid,or like a cold, you know,
because now they're acceptableto then they say that in the
movie that the kid issusceptible to this stuff now
because like this might be, likethis might be chronic they
would call it chronic.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
This might be chronic condition, I don't know I'm
keeping them.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
Ah, that could be god testing.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
You like listen, I'm good see, we on the same page,
but see, the other thing was toowhat if you had two kids and
like one kid was constantlyhurting the other kid?

Speaker 5 (06:59):
right that was one of the things you're just gonna
have to stay with me like we'regonna fight you know what I'm
saying like, but we're gonnawork through it okay, so you
have.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
So you have two kids.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
You got one, that's constantly it's different, like
when you have a child thatyou've grown in your body from
like inception until they aredelivered.
Like it's a different feeling,like I could see how a man could

(07:39):
.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Be like so okay, so now when?
So now we posed a question onthe hilarious side, but now
let's go serious.
Now you got the same kid andlet's take all the superstition
stuff out.
And it's the same kid ismolesting the other kid or doing
something like very unethicalto the other kid, like how do
you keep?

(07:59):
that kid or demonic.
I mean you can look at it bothways, because it's the
difference.
Because I know people are likelike, all right, my son is um
raping my other kids, he has togo to a home.
It's kind of the same thing ifyou think about it yeah, but you
don't like give the kid away.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
Like you know, there's obviously some
interventions right like youhave to try what you can do.
There's something wrong in thatsituation.
You have to try to remedy it.
Remedy it and fix it.
You don't just like be like allright, you did something.
Peace out.
Like those are real lifesituations but one day.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
One day, if it's just , it was, it's not working.
Now.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
It's going on a couple years now and I hear what
you're saying and I'm gonna bethe same answer it's your kid at
the end of the day.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
But you know what?
What do you talk?

Speaker 2 (08:40):
it's always easiest to say what you would do in a
situation for sure and whenyou're not in a situation.
Right, you know now I'm notsaying I would.
I would give away my kid right.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
But I'd be like damn.
This is possessed again it'd bea lot of yo.
It'd be a lot of discussions.
It'd be a lot of discussions atnight.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
I'm like listen we got to lock this nigga in the
room there's interventions thatyou could do to you know, ensure
the other child you're gonnalose some sleep.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Right, you're gonna be, you're gonna go through it
hyper vigilant like I hear y'all, I hear y'all, I hear y'all, I
hear what they gotta gosomewhere to you know,
rehabilitate or do whatever likethat.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
You you can't provide that care in your home and they
got to go somewhere.
That's understandable becausethat's a real life situation.
But like what else are yougoing to do?
Okay, so didn't becauseobviously, if they're going
through those things, theycoming back.
You could kick them out, butthey still don't come back
that's true.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
So I guess I kind of know what you guys answer to my
next question, because I had a,I'm on social media and I've
been watching these debates andall this other stuff and the
whole thing about biden umpartnering his um his son.
So I'm assuming you guys woulddo the same thing for your kids
I know I would stick beside himso what so is it a line.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
He was donald trump so listen, is it?

Speaker 5 (10:02):
do you have a line?
Minds are here, do you have aline?

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Do you have a line drawn Like okay, let's just say
he committed mass murder?
Is that a line?
Like you know what my son needsto stay behind bars?
Is that a line?

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Do you have a line?
Knowing the I'm not going tosay justice system, right, but
knowing that system.
I would know Me and mine iscoming up out of there.
We'll deal with it at home.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
That's if you make it home.
So you don't have a line.
You don't have a line when itcomes to dickhead.
What about you guys?
You got a line Like is thissomething that your son could
possibly do?
Be like you know what Right Doyou be like he has to stay in
prison.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
No.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
I don't know.
I think if my child, if myadult son kills a child, I think
that.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Or like a baby, I think that's it yeah, I, I think
I have a line too.
I I really think you know whenyou start going into like murder
and death, depending on whatthe circumstance, if it's like
accident.
I'm talking about he's likeplaying out like I went.
I went out to kill this littlekid, like it's got to be a line
like, but you have to also thinkit comes back to religion and
spirituality.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
Right, like I believe in god, right, I am not god.
I can't judge or cast judgmenton anyone for what they do,
right?
I feel like whatever you reap,what you sow, right, and that's
an individual between thatperson and god.
So I'm and God, so that's notme.
So I'm going to stick bybecause they're going to get
whatever is coming to them.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah, I get it.
No, I get the whole thing.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
So how could I be in?
A position to try to punishthem.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
But I just think I know a lot of times we say that
like, okay, god this, God that.
But I believe he gave us freewill and I believe that he wants
us to make the best decisionpossible and to say that, okay,
I'm just leaving it in his hands, like I think you mentioned
that before you want to keep itin his hand?
To me it's like okay, I wonderif he wants you to make the

(11:58):
decision.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
It's funny that you say that, because I think, as
black people, we believe in Godso much to where it may cloud
our judgment Exactly.
You know, and I'm not sayingit's for everything, but a lot
of times we say leave it inGod's hands and we pray and
stuff, but I think it has to besomething to where God puts

(12:23):
something in you, to where youknow, to where you have to be
like you know what I can't, oryou know you shouldn't, or why
would God put you in a positionto have a child that's doing
these things?

Speaker 4 (12:38):
so there's a lesson, and maybe there's some area
where you do need to grow, but Idon't think that God gives you
more than you can handle.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
I agree with that.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
So to commit a murder , everybody's going to be
against that, right?
Yeah, no one is really going toshow any forgiveness.
What is it to add on to that?
Like everybody says the thingabout— but we the most forgiven
people on this earth are we arewe people?
yeah absolutely, we are, weabsolutely are okay to our
downfall sometimes yeah, yeah,exactly yeah okay, but

(13:15):
forgiveness looks a littledifferent, but when it comes to
these type of things, I don'tknow if it's necessarily
forgiveness, um, but to love aperson through their shit
unconditionally unconditionallythat's a really.
That's like that's hard.
I feel like that's harder thananything else and sometimes
that's the only.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
You can only get that from a mother y'all ready to be
out.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
You know what I'm saying.
But you could love, you couldlove a kid.
You could love a kid in prison,like I could still love you.
But you need to be where you'reat because you don't know how
to act and I can't have you outthere committing murders and
just getting away with it.
It's for every consequence, forevery action is a consequence
and I believe what are youteaching your kids?

(14:01):
You did it, but I love you somuch You're going to come home
with me.
I'm going to ride did it, but Ilove you.
I love you so much.
You're gonna come home with me.
No, I'm gonna ride with you.
Right, you have, I could loveyou.
I'm gonna.
I'm gonna come see you everyday.
I'm gonna put money in yourcomments there.
I'm gonna do all that stuff.
But you, you are where you needto be, because you can't not be
around other humans.
You don't know where you at,you just can't.
So that's how I look, that'show I see it.
You know, I mean no I'm not oneof yours.
No, don't Believe me.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
He was a serial killer.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Right.
So then you have a mentalhealth problem.
Let's get you some help.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Some people just can't be helped.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
I don't believe that.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
No.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
I don't think that some people just can't be helped
.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
You think everyone could be recovered.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
So what is the purpose?
What is technically jail issupposed to be for
rehabilitation right?

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Well or not our jail system, I know but it's supposed
to be supposed to be right, itisn't right.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
So you rather see people just sit behind bars and
not get any type ofrehabilitation?
Or should I pull my child outand really work on my child at
being the best version ofthemselves or whatever it is
that they got going on, or do Ijust let them rot, watch them
waste away with with no reallike?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
help yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
What do you choose?
I choose to help my child.
I'm pulling them out.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Okay, I'm leaving with me in mind.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
I hear you, I hear you, you're right.
Women do have unconditionallove.
They do, they do.
I think with men we havesomething Rational love.
It's called rational love.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Men have rational love.
We rationalize it because I getwhat you're saying.
I definitely get what you'resaying and I just know that some
people, no matter what you do,the wheels are just spinning.
Some people, some people, nomatter what you do, you, the
wheels are just spinning likeit's some people you just can't
help, at least not now, not whatour current uh therapy and
medication.
Some people just cannot behelped like some people like

(15:52):
evil right.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
So with the current situation, with um biden parting
his son for whatever he did,you would pardon your son oh,
hell, yeah, yeah so what's thelimit?
Like murder?

Speaker 3 (16:05):
no, murder is not even my limit.
So they.
Ultimately, it all depends onwhat type of murder no, it's
because you know it's levels tomurder how many?

Speaker 2 (16:12):
no, it is levels.
How many murders right likewhat?

Speaker 3 (16:15):
what's the like if it was my son fighting somebody
and he and they?
Was fighting and he hit him, orwas he?
He had like going back andforth shooting at each other and
he shot somebody and killedthem and murder.
Oh, I'm going to get this guybefore he get me.
Those are totally differentones, did you see?

Speaker 5 (16:28):
that video on social media with Big Ang.
You know who that is from MobWives.
No, she died.
She had like all the plasticsurgery and stuff and she was
sitting down to lunch with herson a guy that she met and she
was like, oh he's, he's get.
He just got out of jail formurder like you know, the murder

(16:49):
and the son was like well,that's not bad, that doesn't
make him a bad guy.
Oh shit, that makes me think of.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
But think about it, though, because you know his
levels to murder.
Like you know, it depends whatyou know justification.
Now, if he just got up in themorning like I'm going to take
this car and ram, go throughthis crowd and just run
everybody over and kill him,that's like totally different
than me and him beefing, and I'mgetting him before you get me
type of thing.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
You have to go into what was happening before right
like what triggered thosethoughts of waking up and
running and people don't justwake up like what is it that?
Uh, from dark knight.
Like people are, they're notlike born villains that's true,
villains, they're made so whatis it that we missed?

Speaker 5 (17:32):
right like yeah, so, or vegas so you know what?

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I have a theory on that, which one?
The vegas part, okay, well,well, no, the new orleans guy,
okay, okay, god, I ran all thosepeople right because he was in,
he was in the united statesmilitary, right, and I think he
went over to iraq or whatever.
Uh, he went over there, hefought, but I think he probably

(17:59):
because, because he was muslimhimself, right he was.
He was yelling about theterrorist organization, right,
but yeah, but I think heprobably saw how the United
States was treating his peopleand I think maybe that could
have been a trigger or likemaybe that you know, because
what would make you do somethinglike that when you go and you

(18:21):
deploy?

Speaker 5 (18:22):
that changes your mind.
Do something like that to whereyou want to go, when you go and
you deploy that changes yourmind.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
You put people in a state to be killing machines and
then you bring them back tocivilian life and expect them to
be normal.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
With no services.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
You expect them to just kill a bunch of people in a
different country and come backand just go to the grocery
store and say, hey, how youdoing it's ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
It's dramatic for people in the military because I
had a close person to me whowas and deployed several times
and they came back and they'relike listen it's you jump up in
the middle of night when you seeheadlights coming down your
street because you don't knowwhat's going on, or and they
wake up out of bed ready to likedoing the motions as if they

(19:06):
had their AK with them, you know, to get ready to shoot somebody
, you know but, also, when yougo to Afghanistan and Iraq, you
have to remember these countriesdon't have medical services.
So when the United States goesin and they're in these
countries, they are the onesproviding medical treatment to
people, right?
So it's like they have to makesure that these people who have

(19:29):
come sending children to withbombs on them to blow up the us
kids, you know stuff, the, the,the, our military.
They have to treat them.
You know what I'm saying.
So imagine seeing that on aconsistent, daily basis.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Like, of course you're gonna come back well
fucked up exactly yeah, with noservices and no support from
your country but if that's thecase too, think about how we
grew up seeing all of this shitnow that's trauma that needs to
be addressed.
You know, we grew up with allof this Hell.
Some of us grew up with damnnear serial killers, Like I grew

(20:06):
up with guys that killed four,five, six guys, you know.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
I know guys that killed four, five, six guys.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Imean, so I get what you're
saying, so you know so.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
That's just trauma.
Stateside Trauma, right Localtrauma that's just trauma
stateside.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Right Local trauma.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Domestic trauma.
So I do get it.
I do get it, that you know.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
I'm starting to get depressed.
Can we talk about somethingelse?

Speaker 3 (20:35):
No, we definitely can transition.
You want to go straight toTomfoolery?
Let's talk about sex.
You want?

Speaker 1 (20:41):
to go straight to Tomfoolery.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
You want to go straight to Tomfoolery?
God damn.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
I think this is enough serious talk for now.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
Everybody needs help.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Well, to close this topic out, so I get it.
So women and guys thinkdifferent when it comes to the
kids.
I know women are more emotionalabout it.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
We riders.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
No, I'm not saying we .
I think guys ride, but I justthink guys sit back.
You know what it is.
I think guys will sit back andthink about it.
I think we probably would dothe same thing, but we have to
more ration out.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
I think we think about protection of the rest of
us, the rest of the family,right.
You're not looking at it likethat.
You're looking at it fromemotional Right.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
But if you're coming from protection.
What position do you play inthere?
And I'm not saying that to belike something funny or negative
.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
What position do you play in that protection you?

Speaker 2 (21:39):
got to think about the rest of your kids, your wife
.
That's true, think about therest of your kids, your wife.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
But what about your child that's in this system,
that is not built for them, thattheir very existence and being
in there could make things worse?

Speaker 3 (21:58):
That's true.
So what if you got not just onechild?
You have a few children at homeand he's a danger to all the
rest of you and other children.
You're just going to still lethim come in.
That's something you got tothink about.
That's just like me having allmy kids at home.
One of my kids go out, get thiscrazy virus that could kill
everybody, and then I'm like,well, you got to come back out

(22:18):
because you're still my kid.
Well, you.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
So there's alternates , right Like to coming in the
house, but you're making a planfor them.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
You're not just like leaving them and like disowning
them.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Well, no, we're not saying that.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
You're like saying make a new one.
You said leave them in a jailand you said we can make new
ones.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
Tyson said leave them in a jail.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Leave them in a jail, leave the asses in jail.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
You said, we can make new ones.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Hey, listen, I'm just saying I ain't trying to be
funny To get it out the darknessto get it out the darkness, to
get it to something funny.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Jail y'all act like jail is like these niggas be
rushing back to jail.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
So jail ain't what we think it is, that's not true.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
No no, no.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
I don't know them niggas faking, but they be on
Instagram with them burnerphones and be making cakes and
shit on the stairs and havingfun.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
It's nothing for them out here.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
So they're getting three squares a day.
Hold on, I thought you saidthey got programs out here to
help them Right, listen, listen.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Let me tell you, I'm going to tell you this is coming
from a guy that had been lockedup, not me.

Speaker 5 (23:24):
One of my friends is saying he's been locked up, so
you've never been locked up,I've never, been locked up.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
I've never been.
That's fine with me, Listen.
So this guy told me he's like.
They said that sometimes mostof them is like college they
feel like they're in dorms andshit.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
So you don jail or if it's a prison, I got locked up
once Locked up abroad isprobably the worst.
So remember, jail and prisonare two different things now.
So I'm talking about prisons.
Prison is probably better.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
They say jail like county is like they don't want
to go there.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Now my mother went to prison and she did not have a
good time.
It was not cakes and selfiesand all that kind of shit.
Somebody would rape me inprison Did y'all see the video?

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah, they would get you.
Yeah, they would get you.
But did y'all see the video onInstagram?
No, they would, they would getyou.
Which one?
Yessi, listen, yessi, the onevideo on Instagram with that?
It's the guy Of like, so theyinterview him.
He's like I'm, he's, I'm, he's,I'm, keep it real.
He's like I had a ball inprison.
He's like he's like I had a.

(24:26):
I had so much fun.
He said I had so much fun.
He said.
He said he actually did anextra year, he said.
He said.
He said he had a time in hislife.
He said he would go back.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
But listen when you watch some of the women's stuff
they like make their own makeupLike they do.
It's like they be looking flyas fuck in there Right.
But I still would not go Prisonrules.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
I still would not go.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Prison rules.
That's because we've been onthe outside, but they be.
I need freedom.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
Niggas yo it.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yo y'all cannot tell me Niggas be rushing back to go
to jail sometimes.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
No.
But that's a mindset I gotlocked up once and it took me
one time.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
I fought a cop, but that's jail though I'm talking
about prison is different thanjail.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Well, just being locked up.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
How long were you in there?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
I was in there a week and a half.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
So okay, you did a bid A minor bid a minor, a minor
bit shit not even.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
But um, I was in there because, uh, this cop was
um okay, was this last week orlike years ago?
This was like, maybe like twoweeks ago oh, all right, I was
in my 20s.
I was in my 20s and brother theywas in the hallway playing dice
.
So the cops came and, you know,raided everybody or whatever,
and the girl started arguingwith the cop why are you

(25:52):
arresting my brother and allthis other stuff?
And you know, and she got up inthe cop's face and he snuffed
her Like just like boom, and hejust started beating her and
nobody was doing nothing and mydumb ass, you know, kind of went
to her defense.
Would you get some ass?
Would?

Speaker 3 (26:09):
you fuck in there?
No, I was not.
I'll tell you what you do yoursa dumb ass, he was doing the
right thing.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
He was being righteous, so girl bye.
See, that's the differencebetween you and him.
I like him.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
I pulled him off of her.
After I did that, he punched mein my face, oh shit, and I
started whipping his ass.
Next thing you know, I hadmaybe like five or six cops on
me hitting me with fuckingflashlights.
I had glasses.
I broke my glasses.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
I was blind as a bat.
Listen, you're going to heavenfor that one.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
And the craziest thing next thing.
You know it was a full fuckingriot.
Like you know, everybody wasjumping on the cops and it was
crazy.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
So they got you for inciting a riot.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yo, no worse than that.
They got me for breaking theentering car theft, inciting a
riot, um uh, assaulting fiveofficers.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
they put so many fucking charges wait, how'd they
get you breaking the entering?
And exactly, they were justthrowing shit they was throwing.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
They just they found anything everything.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yeah, so they call that pat in the books or
something like that pat in thefile.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah well, the craziest shit was is that out of
all of the full riot orwhatever, me and the girl was
the only ones that got locked upand they made her my
co-defendant.
So they try to make it seemlike we jumped the cop, we stole
a car, we broke in someone'shouse.
It was crazy and we went tonight court, maybe like two days

(27:40):
later and they remanded me.
So the next time I went to courtthat judge saw that it was
bullshit and he was like whathappened?
Like when did this happen?
Because something like thatwould have been on the news, or
whatever and he was the only onethat saw that it was bullshit.

(28:01):
And um, he gave me an ror andhe sealed my case thank god, you
got that, but I never knew thatI had all of that stuff, all of
those charges.
I never knew that legal aidtells you take deals and all
this other shit.
I never knew all of that shitwas on there.
It wasn't until I was workingat ups to where they needed

(28:22):
somebody to go to um, um citybank to pick up like oh,
financial you can't yes so youcan't have a record anything
like that or whatever.
So I applied for and they said,all right, well, we're gonna run
a background check.
So they ran a background checkand saw that I had nothing.
But they also interview you andthey ask you have you ever been

(28:45):
arrested?
So I told him and I was like,yeah, I've been arrested.
And I told him what happened.
But he said, but when we ran abackground check, nothing came
back.
I said, well, yeah, my case wassealed.
So he tells me to go down tothe courts or whatever, get my
files or whatever and stuff.
Cause it's been a certainamount of times, if it's sealed
and it's you, you should be ableto get it.

(29:06):
Then he told me to bring himback the paper and stuff so that
he could read the charges,cause he used to be a police
officer, like a detective orwhatever.
You know that these companieshire or whatever Citibank hires.
And he read all of the fuckingcharges and he was like, if you
would have known what you had,he said you could have sued.

(29:26):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Damn.
The statute of limitations wasover.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Exactly, I never knew .

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Damn.
Yeah, shit you talking aboutdepressing, and that's our
system.
And that's our system.
And that's our system.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
Shit.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
That wasn't made for you.
So what next then?
What's the next topic?
Y'all itching for some damntomfoolery and some damn.
No but listen, but that'sdepressing it's life though it's
our life it's our life.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I got to balance it out, though.
Hear you, I hear you.
What was the other topics wewas talking about?
We were talking abouteverything.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
I mean we always, we always start, we always have the
mic off just talking aboutrandom shit, and then and it
just literally just happens oh,we was talking about the thing
with diddy too.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Oh yeah, diddy and jay-z oh he's innocent, diddy,
oh you.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
Oh yeah, diddy and Jay-Z oh, he's innocent, diddy,
oh you stupid.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
You got to be stupid.
Diddy is not innocent.
Diddy do it.
Well, you be Diddy-ing peopleso you would think he's innocent
.
Hey, I think Diddy dideverything he said he did,
except for that 13-0, that newsstory, but I think he did
everything else.
As far as those parties.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
I didn't hear about that.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
13-0 until you guys told me about it.
No, that's Jay-Z, isn't it?
It's Diddy.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
It's like Jay-Z was involved, so what happened?

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Here's what happened.
You can tell it.
Yeah, the only reason why theyincluded Jay-z in that?
Because diddy's is trying tosay all my money is tied up into
, uh, lawyers and stuff likethat, so you can't file a civil
suit against me because I haveso many.
So now they try to includejay-z in that and say that he

(31:13):
was there too yes, right, and sonot even so.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
What happened was also in addition to that.
She was just saying when I gotraped, it was Diddy, another
rapper, and another female there.
She never said names.
They went to Jay-Z and saidJay-Z, listen, the girl is
telling us that.
Well, her lawyer said she'stelling it was you, but she
won't mention your name ifyou're settled.

(31:36):
Jay-z said fuck you.
And that's when her attorney'slike well, we're going to go
publicz said fuck you.
And that's when he, theattorney's like well, we're
gonna go public.
He said you could do what thefuck you want, because it wasn't
me.
And that's how.
That's how he was pulled intoit, because he wouldn't settle
yeah so, and they was trying toget a check.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Trying to get a check because, remember, they have
put out that 1-800 number, yeah,whoever's been touched the oh,
you know, she's 46.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
No, I'm no, she's like.
No, she's like.
I want to say she's in 30 yearslike 20 like she's in like late
.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
I think she might be like 30, she might be in her 30s
right now, but the crazy thingabout it, she included her
father, and her father was likehe's like I don't know what
you're talking about what I didsee that

Speaker 1 (32:14):
she's gonna claim that dementia right, I know, so
somebody tell me.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Let me tell you the background and Don't quote
because I'm reading on differentoutlets.
So apparently this 13-year-oldcame from somewhere else,
somehow got to the awards.
It was awards party.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
She was hanging out at an awards ceremony outside.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
The Source Awards R Kelly Broughton.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
No, she by herself, was it?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
I think it might have been either BET.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
It was like one of those awards.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
The Grammys.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
So she traveled by herself.
Now, mind you, she wasn't witha group of people.
She said she got up and waslike oh, I want to go.
Right, exactly, she said.
I'm a 13 year old, I'm going togo to this party because I'm
going to get in, not at, theGrammys.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
That's why I asked if it was the Source Awards.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Right, I know right.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
It definitely was the Source Awards.
It was like one of the bigawards.
It was one of the big awards.
Her story is I wanted to go, soshe traveled there.
I think she said she took a cabor something like that.
She took a cab there, right.
She said she couldn't get in.
She said she just had.
She said she was outside, shewas 13.

(33:26):
She said she was, she's ateenager.
So she said she was juststanding outside.
She said a limo pulls up andthe guy was like ho, come here.
The limo driver was like hey,come here.
I think I think my boss hey orho oh no, he said.
he said hey, my my boss.
He said my boss hey or ho, Idon't know what he said.
He said hey, my boss would likeyou.
You're something he's lookingfor, right?

(33:47):
Yeah, you're his type.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
You're his type, you're my type.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
She gets in the car.
He drives her all the way tothe party where they're all at.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
I feel like that's R Kelly.
They made a mistake.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
I said that when we were just talking, that's R
Kelly.
They made a mistake.
I said that when we were justtalking.
I said you sure this isn't an RKelly scenario.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
No, but this is what she's saying, Diddy.
She's saying Diddy.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Because R Kelly used to hang out at the high schools.
Mcdonald's next to the highschools.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
So now this 13-year-old.
So now listen.
So this 13-year-old pulls upwith a limo, the guy brings it
inside, she walks through themansion, she walks through the
mansion on her own, and then shesaid she go in the room and sit
by herself, and then they comein and give her something.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah, something like that.
They give her something todrink and she passed out, she
passed out.
She wakes up.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
How does she know what happened if she passed out?

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Well, hold on.
She wakes up and it's a bunchof niggas there.
That's terrible.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
I'm sorry sorry, I'm laughing is diddy, jay-z, jay-z
and some a woman and she saidshe's not gonna say a woman
there, this, right here, nothing.
If for what I hear about jay-z,if something happens she would
know.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Yeah, because he hung like how do y'all know he's a?
Hitter, that's what I heard, soI told you I told you about the
corinne stefan's book superhead.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
I read that oh, she talked about jay-z.

Speaker 5 (34:59):
Yes, well then, that girl will remember she said he,
he got some she said it was likea soda bottle, a two liter soda
, yeah he he, he packed whatthat's just how stupid his hair,
that's just how stupid it's acouple stories and they all

(35:19):
lining up with Jay-Z, the lessattractive ones usually have.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
I never heard that.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
I'm surprised.
Well, he's a man, so oh, I'msorry.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
That was a shot.
Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
I was thinking that too, but I was like I never
heard that before.
But whatever, I don't give ashit.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
I just made that too, but I was like I never heard
that before.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
But whatever, I don't give a shit, I just made that
up.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
What Marty said.
He said I may not choke you,but I'm a mouthful, I don't know
.
I don't believe the whole shit,the whole hype.
I believe he's done stuff, butI think everybody's getting a
money grab At a party andmaneuvering like that.
Right, she's maneuvering toowell, check your parents.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
It has nothing to do with, but you know what, or any
of that?

Speaker 4 (36:08):
I'm gonna say that it's not too far-fetched,
because I know a few women in myage range that have been in
situations and scenarios thatyou wouldn't think at 13 though
yeah and when maneuver like thatand get into a side of mansion
with d so did you ever have youguys books when I was 13 well,

(36:28):
yeah, some, some people werereading books, but some people
were at like, they were in areaslike I don't know.
Did you guys watch the r kellydocumentary and see?

Speaker 3 (36:39):
where these?
Girls were they were young, hewas picking them up at
McDonald's, though that'sdifferent.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
No, but the girl one of the girls was showing up to
his court hearings outsideduring school hours.
Yeah, she was like 14, 15.
She was not going to school,she was just showing up at the
court.
He probably saw her and waslike he saw her, but that's what
that Then some of them wereactually at the concerts at

(37:05):
night, but that's different.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Because he was known in the area for liking little
girls, so they were like oh, helikes us, so we go.
But he was known for that,though.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
So, it's not Diddy, though.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
But what I'm saying is when you think of Diddy, like
some of the parents wasbraining these kids when you 13,
when you 13 years old, youthinking like you depose a Diddy
, and R Kelly you're like okay,I'm 13, I know R Kelly likes it.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Everybody knows he nobody a 13 year old is not
thinking they can get in aDiddy's home.
Hold on, hold on.
Let's think like we gotta thinkback was happening yeah, right
like the early 90s yes, thatsituation, like it, wasn't seen
as predatory as it is now.
Wait, do you, did you guyscancel?

Speaker 5 (37:46):
him who are killing?

Speaker 4 (37:47):
absolutely no, absolutely no, not me absolutely
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
I pay too much money for the mark henley albums.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
I'm not canceling it I, so I stopped listening to his
album because I'm not gonnahelp him do like contribute if
you already bought the album andyou're not contributing I ain't
buying.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
I mean, I bought his album, I was, I was 13 listening
to his his songs, but I feellike when you sing it, when
you're younger, you know thatyou like the beat.
You don't.
You sing the words, but youdon't know what they mean.
Oh girl, no oh girl no at 13,14.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
I was getting my sex life going.
I wasn't having sex, but I knew.
I was like oh, this is what I'mgonna do when I get old oh shit
, I was like oh yeah, hit ithard from the back, roll around
on the front, your body's gone.
Yeah, I was getting it I knew Iwas like oh yeah, this is what
I'm gonna be doing, oh shit Idon't even that 13, I don't I
was I was already playing.
I wouldn't say 13, I probablywas like 14 15, but yeah, I

(38:38):
definitely was listening to them.
Songs like oh yeah, this soundlike this would be fun when I
get older, really.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
Absolutely Did you ever hear.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
TP2?
Yeah, I'm disappointed that Ican't listen to that fucking
album right now.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
I listen to it.
I don't give a shit you can.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
I don't, I can't, I just can't Because it sounds
different, because of what hedid.
I just can't.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
But what about?
So?
We can't Because it soundsdifferent, because of what he
did yes.
Do you start watching the Cosbyshow?
Have you started watching theCosby show?

Speaker 4 (39:05):
I have not watched the Cosby show, not not because
of the building, but I just.
It's not something that Ireally want to watch.
She's a different generation,though no.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
I watched it.
I watched it, but the cancelingpeople, because if they said I
was listening to this lady, shewas like you go around these
stars, do this stuff and youcancel them.
Yo, honestly, if you knew thesecrets behind everybody, you
probably wouldn't be listeningto no one.
So it's just like I listen tothe artist, not the person, the

(39:41):
art and the person.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
I listen to the artist, not the person.
The art and the person.
I listen to the art and theperson.
The only thing that got me withR Kelly is that the nigga never
stopped Right.
He won't stop.
So obviously Jay-Z did somethings with some young girls, so
have other people did thingswith young girls.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Back in the 90s they all were.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
That's what I'm saying the 90s were a very
different time.
That girl was 13.
If it was in the 90s sheprobably very well did show up
at that award show.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Let me say this If you think about our grandparents
and our great-grandparents,they would get married at 15, 16
.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah, they sure was.
They would start a court at 12.
You talking about gettingmarried.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
We're not talking about getting passed around here
, but it's different they weregetting married to 18, 19, 20
year old men, though it wasn'tlike it was, uh but it's still.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
I mean, I mean, I'm not making, I'm not saying it's
right.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
I'm saying we didn't see the the.
We don't see it the way we donow.
You know what I'm saying.
Everybody knew that alia wasfucking with r kelly.
I remember that like back thenit was an issue.
It was an issue nobody saw itas an issue parents signed her
over no, I, I heard that theydidn't initially sign it.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
It was like it happened and he hadn't.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
It was like they signed her over yeah, whether it
was in the beginning or the endyeah, this is true, they got
married it exactly, and then itgot an old and all that other
stuff.
But the the point is that wedidn't see things that we see
now.
I think I don't know if youguys remember roxanne, roxanne
yeah, her documentary, her movie, it was great that guy yes that

(41:14):
guy was older than her and hewas dealing with her.
Nobody saw those things as wrong.
Nobody said, oh you can't bedealing with that young girl or
you shouldn't be dealing withthat young girl.
That was just like the norm atthe time.
I know a bunch of girls in myage range.
That age range, that fuck withniggas.
That was 24 and they were 16,13 yeah, I remember being in

(41:37):
high school and like the niggawould come with a motherfucking
Benz or whatever.

Speaker 5 (41:43):
Wait, you were the 24-year-old person.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
He tried to put it off.
Yeah, I was there.
It wasn't me, but I wasstanding on the side.
I think about BOW to two yearsago.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Don't you put that on me, Ricky Bobby?

Speaker 5 (41:59):
I know some niggas.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
I know some niggas.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
I know some niggas oh yeah, they're like, these dudes
will come by, whatever you be,like yo, son I remember that
ain't that your girl?

Speaker 3 (42:10):
I remember that watching these you trying to
kick it to a girl.
She like no, my boyfriendpicking me up, they pulling.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
He's like there you go.
What the fuck?
There you go.
So you couldn't even get thechicks your age cause they was
always dealing with dudes, thatwas older in the car.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Driving in the car, I'm like fuck yeah gotta give me
a car.
I gotta give me a car and comeback 20 years later not even a
car.

Speaker 5 (42:31):
You need to get like some off the wall type of shit.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
I don't see how, I just don't understand how these
guys could want these younggirls.
I don't see, I can't understand, Like I would never deal with a
person more than maybe it's youknow.
It's like it's slim, Cause Idon't cause, I'm, I'm more, I'm,
I'm about a conversation.
If you can't have aconversation with me, I'm, I'm
done Like I was tricked one timeI went to.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
I feel like Hold on.
Let's just say Listen, listen,you're talking about he always
getting tricked.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
No, listen I was about to say he always tricked
Yep, that's him, whatever that'shim.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
So listen, we're going to call you Trick Trick.
Look, trick Trick.
We're going to say commondenominator.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
So I'm in this, we're at this to me.
She bad as hell too.
You know she was in there withhis drink, we all drink.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
No, this is like years ago, I was, I was 20 no, I
was in my I was.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
I want to say I was in, uh, I think I was still in
college.
I was in my 20s that was like40 years ago.
No, you stupid.
So you know.
Just said she was.
You know we was all in there.
Whatever, make a long short, weget back to our house and she
had a name belt hanging on herwall.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
I was like is this the one with the roaches?

Speaker 3 (43:46):
No hell, no she had a name belt.
She had a name belt hanging onher wall.
So I was like, oh shit, becauseI still had my name belt.
So I was like I said I stillgot mine from the 80s.
She said I still got mine fromthe 80s she said, they just came
out like last year.
I was like what?
I said no, they came out in the80s.
She said, no, they didn't.
She said I said I still havemine from like 86.

(44:09):
She's like, no, let me call myuncle.
She calls her uncle.
He's like yo, baby girl, thosebeen out since the 80s.
She's like I never knew us.
Like I was like I said how doyou not?
That was like the main, one ofthe main things that he's like
you.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
Everybody had a name belt, so I was like a bedazzled
name belt.
No, it's just a regular,regular one, right, she just had
a regular one so I don't knowso you had a name belt in the
80s, yeah, and it said in the80s?

Speaker 5 (44:35):
yeah, I see.
No, it did not say tyson, so soanyway, so that's real zesty
and spicy.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
I'm just saying we all had, oh you in the 80s.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
You didn't grow up in the 80s, I did not in the 80s
hold on.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
I remember them.

Speaker 5 (44:51):
I'm asking you did you have one?

Speaker 2 (44:53):
I did not have one but, everybody I knew had one,
everyone had one.
So when they rolled back,around in the 2000s.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
only the girls had the name belts, the 99s and the
2000s Right, I didn't still havemine I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
So I was Do you still wear it?
No, she still shut up.
So she still had it.
So she still had it hanging on.
So I'm thinking like cause, youknow, like just just like a,
just like a momental thing.
So I was like, oh, shoot.
Then I said wait, how old areyou?
She's like I told you I'm 22.

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I was like no, you're not.
I said you kind of not rememberwhat we were doing in the 80s.
And she's like okay, I'm goingto be honest, I'm 18.
I was like.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
Is that the?

Speaker 3 (45:36):
real story.
That's the real story.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
Did you fuck with her , though what do you mean, did
y'all fuck?

Speaker 3 (45:41):
around Like in the beginning.
Mm-hmm, I mean before I left.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
That's what I was getting at Like.
Is this the real story?
Well, he was like.
Before I left, I had to get astink finger.
No, no, no.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
No but no, but it was after prior to me, asking that
you know how you get yourselftogether.
You walk around looking, youtry to make conversation.
I'm like yeah, this is niceTrying to get out the house.
I was like huh.
I was like I'm out.
I remember she kept calling me.
I was fine.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
But that wasn't too bad.
You was 22?
.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
I was like 20.
I want to say 22, 23.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
She was 18.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
To me it just graduated last year, but it
bothered me, though it justbothered me.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
If she is of age, what is?

Speaker 3 (46:30):
the problem, because at 18, you have nothing to talk
about with me.

Speaker 5 (46:35):
There's nothing we can talk about.
That's a personal preference.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
So would you judge.
That's why I said that's me,her personally.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
I can't, because have like people who are older,
right, that are like 10 yearsolder than their wives or 10
years older than their husbandthat's different when you, once
you get up and up in the ageslike 40, 50, but like talking
about sometimes 20s, 30s, like Ihad a 30 year old pretending to
be a 23 year old when I was 18I mean that probably work,
because they're immature he washe.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
I told.
He told me he was 23 and youbelieved him, right?
No, I didn't I asked what?

Speaker 3 (47:10):
what do you look like ?
He looked like he was 30 no, hewas black.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
He was black, but he didn't look 30 right.
But he kept reminiscing aboutthe old days in high school and
I was like fuck you, only 23,why are you reminiscing?

Speaker 3 (47:25):
yo niggas, like yo, I remember back in the day but I
was always 23 so it wasconfusing to me.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
I'm like damn you, only 23.
What's the problem?

Speaker 2 (47:35):
it's not making sense that was only like 3 years ago.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
You need help with your homework then he pulled up
on me in some leather pants andokay.
Yeah, that was a telltale signand he thought he was fly too.
I said I know nigga lying.
Yeah, no, no, no he still held,he held it down, so he was 23,
and then he finally admittedlike after I stopped talking to

(48:00):
him, he was 30 I think that's socorny though that you gotta be,
very corny like that and theywere like 10 years older than I
was.

Speaker 5 (48:06):
Like why would you lie?
Like that?
Don't make sense.
Like why would you lie aboutyour age and?

Speaker 4 (48:10):
see, for me I never liked older men because I felt
like at 30 if you're trying todate somebody 18, I mean you
can't really hang with the womenyour age oh, you want to
control them yeah, but I justfelt like for me personally, I
was just like you really don'thave anything to offer me
because you don't have one.
You don't have anything tooffer women your age, like.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
If you're looking for a younger woman, there's
something wrong yeah, like youcan't guys that I know that try
to go back that way.
It's not that they don't havethem they be having the older
ones with them but they bethinking all could control this
young girl.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
Oh listen, he ain't had nothing going on, honey.
Yeah, I love the pants but letme tell you.
He told me he owned the houseand union right girl.
We went to the house, me and mygirlfriend, because I ain't go
by myself.
I wasn't playing around.
We go to the house.
He, like you, gotta be quiet.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
I said well you're gonna wake up my roommate he
like oh, my sister live here,right.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
So I said, okay, so we in the basement.
I said so you live in abasement and your sister just
take the house.
Oh, no, nigga, you live withyour sister In the basement.
So he must have thought I was18 and I was dumb, but I wasn't.
You know, I was young but Iwasn't dumb.
Yeah, I wasn't duck, so me andmy girlfriend had a field day
with his ass.
I was like this your sisterhouse.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Wait, was the basement finished?
Though that makes it different.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
It was a fucking mess .
A mess, the finished basementand we had to whisper the whole
time we was in the basement.
He's like we're not doing this.
Bye.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
Yo, you 18,.
You loud as hell.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Girl, I couldn't stop laughing.
I just laughed at his ass thewhole night.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
You know what His mother condoned it she's
bringing in young girls.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
I'm sick of this shit , so wait.
So what is your worst datingexperience?
What was the worst date?
That you oh shit, I got one.
I got hundreds of them, but goahead, okay.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
So I used to go to karaoke I'm young and popping
and this guy wanted to take meout and I was like pushing him
off a little bit.
Then I finally said I'd go outwith him and, mind you, I'm on
my own, I'm young and I was likeoh, we'll meet at Red Lobster.
That's where we went.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
So we're red lobster.
You know that's back in the day.
Red lobster meant drugs, thesalad and the biscuits got to
pop in.
You're definitely getting someads when you go to the red back
in the day.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
So we having a conversation and he's telling me
about like his kid and how hetook on his girlfriend's child
and stuff like that.
And I was young and ignorant.
So I'm like okay, why are wetalking about your kids?
Like this is the first date,like what the fuck?
There's too much.
Like I ain't coming here to beyour step, like nobody's

(50:53):
stepmother and all that.
So I was like can we talk aboutsomething else?
Because he was getting reallike emotional and stuff and I
was like yeah, can we switch thetopic?
And he was like I'm gonna go tothe bathroom.
This nigga left.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Okay, he never came back okay, and keep in mind like
I was broke as hell.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
So the bill wash, the dishes girl, the the waiter was
really nice.
He was like, oh, I would neverhave left you here.
I was like he was trying to hittoo basically right, he's like
god he's an opportunity yo,that's it.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
He was a nigga.
He was a nigga, wasn't he?

Speaker 4 (51:28):
that's some nigga shit boy.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
I got a way you can work off the bill nigga shit
right there, boy.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
But basically I just had to pay for my meal.
He took off his meal.
He was real nice.
Um, yeah, and this fool gonnasay he left money on my
dashboard for the meal or someshit.
I'm like okay, but yeah, thatwas like the worst day.
I was so grateful that I drovemy own car because this nigga
would have left me at redlobster there was no uber, none

(51:59):
of that.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
It was very lobster 22 we should pull them on blast
I would say, that's my worstdate you got one so maybe a guy
that I dated.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
So this one comes to mind.
So I was like 23, 24 aftercollege and I stayed um near the
college.
This is before I startedworking at my current job, which
I've been at for a while.
But I started working atwachovia, which is a bank.
Oh, I remember wachovia justbecause that was the first.

(52:35):
You know that I needed to makemoney, right, I was first time
moving out of the house and youknow I needed to make money.
So I was like young dumb, um,and I started dating the manager
at the bank, right?
So I'd be like I want a longerbreak.
Like can we arrange that?

Speaker 3 (52:59):
see how they do.
No, but wait till you hear thestory right.

Speaker 5 (53:02):
So he was very good.
He was actually Jamaican.
He was like from Jamaica.
So he came over like he wasworking at the banks or whatever
, and he was like oh babe, likeI bought a new BMW, can you go
with me to pick it up?
Right.
So we drove to Edison, whichseemed far at the time like from
cause I was working in likeEwing, which is by Trenton, so

(53:22):
we would travel up.
We got his BMW and he's like oh, I'm getting a new apartment,
do you want to like help mefurnish it?
And then we'll like move intogether eventually.
I'm like, okay, so he wouldgive me his credit cards and I
would go buy, like I was likefurnishing this whole house at
23 or 24.
So when I went to go give up myapartment, I was planning to

(53:47):
give up my apartment to move inwith him.
And one day I was going over tothe house.
I was supposed to be out withmy friends, so we went over to
the house and I couldn't get in,or something like that.
So I started fucking knocking onthe door.
Bitch was home, so he openedthe door and there was another
bitch from the bank in Calicoys.

(54:08):
I was like what the fuck areyou doing here, Daisy?
I'm shouting that bitch outbecause she's now fucking down
and out.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Was this last?

Speaker 5 (54:15):
week.
This was last week.
Just happened last week, so I'mlike what the fuck?
And he's like, by the way, hewas like I'm fucking with Daisy
now, Like we're like overwhatever.
So at the door, at the door ohshit Damn, no notice.
My friend was with me.
So I was like what the fuck'sgoing on?
Like that had never happened tome before, like being dumped by

(54:38):
somebody you know what I'msaying or like just that whole
situation.
So my friend was with me, soafter we were like, okay, we're
leaving, she was like let's pissin something and pour it in his
um car.
No, like so.
And you know how.
Like when you turn on the heatand the um air, the vents, oh
shit.

(54:58):
So I was like I was I can't dothat, so she did it which?

Speaker 4 (55:01):
I love her to this day.
That's a real rider right there.
Yes.

Speaker 5 (55:04):
So, anyway, so eventually.
So we ended up, you know,obviously like not seeing each
other anymore.
So I ended up getting the jobat the current job that I am and
I started working at an office.
So one day my phone rings at mydesk in this new job, in this
working for the state, andthey're like, oh, is this, you

(55:25):
know whatever?
And I'm like, yeah, and they'relike this is so-and-so from the
FBI.
Yeah, do you have some time totalk to us?
I'm like about what?
And they're like about his namewas richard.
I'm not gonna say his last name, but I was like they're like,
do you know him?
I was like, yeah, I work withhim.
Like I was like, didn'tdisclose my like personal
relationship.
They're like, yeah, well, he'sactually we're investigating him

(55:45):
for stealing from the bank.
oh shit so I was like girl, goodthing you got up out of there,
right I was like you didn't seeme on camera like spending any
money at the stores, right likebecause he did give me his
credit cards and I was drivingthe bmw so they were like.
So they were like um, I waslike well, what do you like?
What's going on?

(56:05):
And they were like oh, we'reinvestigating him for fraud and
for stealing.
So what ended up happening wassnitched he no, listen.
I didn't want them to know.
I was like listen when I wasthere because I really didn't
know what he was doing like Ihad no idea.
So what he was doing was, likeyou know, at the end of the
shift, where the manager goesand counts your money right like

(56:26):
just to make sure, like withyou, with you, right you count
your money in your drawer.
But if somebody was like, oh, Igotta go to the bathroom, he's
like, oh, don't worry, I'llwatch your drawer, and he would
steal like some money off oftheir thing.
And if they would come up likeuneven, it would be on the
person but, within a certainamount.
The bank doesn't see it as likea loss.
It's like within like 10 orsomething dollars.

(56:47):
So every shift he was doingthat to people over years.
But he, when the atm personcame in to like refill the atm,
he was a fast counter so he wasskimming off the top of every
like atm shipment.
He like stole over four hundredthousand dollars from the bank.
But the feds were watching himbecause you know, once they get
you and they realize they thinkyou're doing something, they

(57:10):
watch you yeah, they watched himfor a while and he ended up
getting like fucking I don'tknow something in federal prison
like years, rich, um, and Iremember like getting texts from
this like random number andthey're like he's like, oh my
god, I fucked up, like I shouldhave like done the right thing
and stay with you.
I was like oh my god anddeleted it, but I think that

(57:31):
probably was by far my worstdating experience Shit.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
God damn.
I was like, but you didn'tshare anything with me.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Oh girl.

Speaker 5 (57:44):
That was a blessing, yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
I thought we were just talking about a date, but
that, yeah, that's terrible.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
I think my worst dating experience was with this
girl.
I'm not going to say her namebecause she passed away, she
passed.
Oh, hell, no, I don't evengonna bring her, but she passed
this one passed away um not toolong ago, but like yesterday, no
so it was just years ago, butthis is years ago, but I think.
So it started.
We were dating, everything wascool, and you know, she was just

(58:09):
one of them girls.
I was like, oh, she's just toobeautiful.
And I, she just everything justwasn't right with her, like,
for instance, one time shealways wanted to drive.
She drove a stick.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
She was really a man.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Shut up.
So we went to the we was goingsomewhere and I got in on the
passenger side.
It was like a big envelope.
I was like oh, you got anenvelope on there.
She's like what is it?
I open it up.
It was like two thousanddollars in cash.
I'm like yo, this is.
I'm excited, thinking she said,oh, give me that.
It's just like oh, that'sprobably from my ex-boyfriend.
I was like wait, what do youmean?
She's like oh, you knowchristmas, he always um that's

(58:42):
the type of shit I'm talkingabout yeah, so he's she the
notes.
I'll open it up.
She's like he.
The guy said I know you gotanother man now, but I'm still
gonna take care of you.
This is is for you and your I'mnot gonna say her daughter name
.
This is for you and yourdaughter.
I was like what the fuck?
I was like I was like okay, Iwas like it was shit, like that
was always happening.
I was just like that's just thecraziest, the craziest like

(59:03):
money, like if she be sittingand gifts be coming to the house
, and it'd be like you couldtell you Like I know you're not
feeling me, no more Like thattype of stuff.
So I didn't feel like you knowthere was anything going on.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
I don't see a problem .
He was like Cuddy in Dead.
Presidents.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
See baby girl in the back.
So this is so.
Now mine is she.
Always she stayed with money.
So one day she was like yo, youknow what, you really treat me
good.
I'm going to do something foryou special.
I'm going to want you to cometo my house.
You have Come to your house.
I'm going to make you this bigdinner.
She's like we're going to beromantic and all of that.

(59:44):
So I'm excited because I'myoung.
Nobody ever did that to me.
Before I get to the house, I'msitting on the couch and she's
in there cooking.
I'm hearing all this stuff.
It smells okay, you know I'mnot seeing nothing.
So I'm thinking I'm like, okay,she must be like a lot of things
going on in the background.
So I was like, oh, this shit isgonna be kind of dope.
You know the candles she comesout I got.

(01:00:04):
I went to the bathroom.
I'm in the bathroom.
I hear her uh setting up andstuff.
I come out.
I come out to the living room.
She had one, one of them woodenfolding tables.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Yeah, it was that, it was tea candles.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
It was plastic plates , plastic spoons, it was.
It was what's that shit calledHamburger helper with butter
bread.

Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
Was it good?

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
And I swear to God it was the red cup of Kool-Aid.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
Oh, she did her thing .
Y'all was like she put it down.

Speaker 5 (01:00:43):
Okay, so I feel some type of way.
Yo, y'all were young.
What's going?

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
on.

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
But still I know she's been treated.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
But you understand, I know she's been treated this a
girl that's been Taking likeExpensive restaurants by
extravagant.
So I'm thinking my mind Likeshe knows how it is To be
Treated.
So I'm thinking I'm about toget this treatment that she used
to get and I was like she wastreated that way, that she
wasn't giving out the treatmentRight.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Well, I know, I know that now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
I know that now, but I was like yo to this day.
I'm offended.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
You ungrateful motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Yo don't tell me you give me.
I'm about to get a best in around.
You make hamburger helper.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
It's two steps in hamburger helper Did she say?

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
It's browned in meat.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
Did you eat it?

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Did you eat it?
Yeah, and the shit was bland ashell.

Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
All right, that's not good you feel like maybe you
should add some seasoning up inhere, we'd be all right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
So I think that was my worst when it comes to dating
.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
I was like yo, this girl, she could have went to
West and Beef and got somepre-made shit, the pre-steaks.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
But you see what I'm saying.
This is a girl that's beenflown out to places, so she
knows how it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
To be honest with you , coming from a woman, I had
home training, but you do findwomen that get that type of
treatment and they don't knowhow to.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
They don't know how to do it.
They don't know how to do itthey don't cook or they don't do
whatever, you don't have toknow how to cook, that's what
they do paper plates and plasticyou could have.
She has dishes.
She thought she was beingefficient because she said I'm
not going to sit here cleaning.
I know exactly.
If the shit was reversed, theroles reversed, they'd say look
at this nigga.

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
No time out, because she could have been like oh, let
me do some paper plates becauseI don't want to spend my whole
night cleaning up the kitchen.
I want to suck this nigga'sdick.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
There you go.
That's what I was thinking.
She's trying to leave more timefor some action.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
What if y'all would to get you a can of tuna fish or
something?
Let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
Younger me I done.
Went to some fucking traphouses.
Thank you, and I was like damnand you had the best time.
Yes, I did.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
And it's funny that you mentioned trap houses this
nigga is in a trap house and hewas kind and he made tuna.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
And he cared for me.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
I was like this might be the one you guys' stances is
crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
It works okay.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
You guys are all over the scale with your stances
tonight.
Shit, because if a nigga wouldhave pulled up on y'all, it's a
thought that counts.
If a nigga would have pulled upon y'all and did the same thing
, y'all would have been like yolook at this nigga, no hold on
the person I am today?

Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
no, absolutely not.
Am today?
No, absolutely not, but 18 yearold me yeah, she knows, and
it's reversed for me.

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
So if, okay, in my younger years I would have
probably been that way, Iprobably would have been like
what the fuck is going on withthis, like, but for me now it's
the thought that counts, like ifyou don't have certain, but you
try, I can work with you Idon't know if you're trying,
though hamburger helper istrying.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Yo, yeah you know how many hours you gotta go past To
get to the Hamburger Helper.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
But what if she really was trying, like that was
her best, like she reallydidn't know how to cook?

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Well, her best ain't shit, right Fuck that shit, fuck
that shit.

Speaker 5 (01:03:48):
Have you moved on to Someone who could cook?

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
I mean it doesn't matter, at least if you try.
Oh my God, if you try to cook,it doesn't matter, but she
wasn't trying.
How do you know?
She was young though.
We was in our 20s.
That's still young.
It was in our 20s.
Okay, I get what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
You expected her to throw down mac and cheese.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
You are not going to win.
She served it on a plate.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Okay.
I get what you're saying.
You expected her to throw downthat mac and cheese.
No, I don't, because she, youare not going to win she served
it on a plastic plate andplastic spoons.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
She could have did.
Okay, forget the cooking part.

Speaker 5 (01:04:26):
The aesthetics you wanted.
A hard plate Aesthetics isdifferent.
What else did she do for you inthe entirety of your
relationship?
Were you happy otherwise?

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
I mean I do for you in the entirety of your
relationship.
Were you happy?
Otherwise, I mean I was okay.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Tyson was bougie back then that wasn't bougie.
It wasn't bougie, but it justthink about it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:41):
I just chief these niggas are flying this girl out,
so that means, if they wasflying, if they was flying her
out.

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
That means that girl ain't never had to cook before
what was you expecting, becauseI can tell you right now, I was
not cooking at 18, 19, 20.
I didn't start cooking until Ihad a child.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
She had a kid, she has a daughter, her daughter.
At the time I was about to sayher daughter name and everybody
knows her daughter.
So she had a daughter, adaughter lived off a hamburger.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
What am?

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
I about to say.
A daughter lived off ahamburger helping.
She probably had a good meal.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
I don't know I'm just talking about she had a kitchen
.
We could eat in the kitchen wecould.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
We should have folding chairs, plastic fork,
plastic spoon and red cups withKool-Aid hold on, her daughter's
gonna hear this and say youknow what?
Fuck that nigga, my mother madethe best hamburger in the world
.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
She's the hamburger helper queen.
Fuck that shit, you know what'scrazy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
She probably perfected that hamburger helper
for you and you would becomplaining.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
No, that shit.
No that shit ain't had no tasteto it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
So that's the worst thing you had that they made
some jacked up unblendedhamburger helper.
Even if she would have seasonedit, it would have been a little
bit better.
You had a good dating career orlife.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
I think that she tried.
She had candles.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
No, no, she had tea candles though the tea things.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
What was the sex?

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
like afterwards.
I'm going to keep it real.
That shit was the bomb.
There was a helper involved.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
It was a win at the end of the day.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Yeah, I mean, but I'm just talking about the whole
the interplay.
Bougie no, it's not bougie,because she said she's like oh,
I'm going to, you don'tunderstand how she souped it up.
She souped it up like it wasgoing to be like some shit.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
So now?
So when men say they simple andthey don't need much, lies?
Lies Because at the end of theday he had bomb ass sex after
the hamburger held for him.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
And he still wasn't.
That was his worst date thereyou go.
Go ahead, beef.
Tell your story, because you'reright.

Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
I'm not going to win.
I told you it wasn't going togo back and forth Don't even
start, no bullshit what's up?

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Yeah, okay, there was this chick I used to try to
fuck with back in the day.
She was bad dark skin Like lastweek, yes, last week and and we
started liking each other andstuff, and you know, we started
calling each other.
Mind you, we used to live inthe PJs, right.

(01:07:14):
So, finally, when she was likeall right, come to my house and
say my brother ain't going to bethere, right?
So I'm like, all right, I'mgoing to fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
I said my brother ain't going to be there.
You know I kid you not.
I go over there and it's like15 niggas in the motherfucking
house chopping up, cooking upand shit like that or whatever,
but you mind your damn business,didn't you?

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
But, they look at him like who the fuck are you?

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
I knew some of them, but they didn't know that I was
messing with her or whatever.
So she was like y'all move outof the way.
So she brings me in the back.
I couldn't even fuck Becausethese niggas is out there making
this fucking noise.
I was like yo.
You know what you got to focus.
I'm just going to go home.
I'm just going to go home.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
I got a similar story , but the niggas wasn't in there
cooking.
It was roaches.
So I get to her house, I get inthere and the house smelled
like bleach.
It was clean, it seemed clean.
You get in the kitchen.
There was a puppy chained tothe wall with roaches all over
it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
The roaches all over it.
You're so fucking bougie, it'sridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
I don't give a fuck.
Listen, there was roaches allover so I was like you know what
?
I'm still gonna fuck.
I don't care, I'm gonna stilldo this shit.
We go in her room and I'm likeit's just like you.
You never been to a house wherejust so many roaches like
everything you touch just killsthem I'm out of there.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
I ain't staying in nobody's house.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
That's like yeah, but I'm a nigga, so I, because you
know, I still want to.

Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
I was not smashing a nobody house with roaches, so
listen to this.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
So I know she's kind of feeling Some type of way
Because I'm like flinching andshit, and so Let me tell you
something.
Let me tell you what I did.
Let me tell you she tried togive me some food and I was like
, yeah, I'll take some, but Iain't never eat it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
You gave it to the dog.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
No, I just put it on the table.
I was like I'm not reallyhungry, so let me tell you some
ignorant shit.
I did and I feel to this day Ifeel bad.
So we're about to go, we'reabout to fuck.
She's like you want to take ashower first.
Like no, I'm good, I ain'tgetting enough shower.
So she gets in the shower,comes back.
When she comes back, I had tookmy my.
I had tims on tims, took off my, folded up my pants, my shirt
and everything and I put theTimbs on her bed.

(01:09:35):
She's like why the fuck you gotyour boots on my bed?
I said, oh, these are some newshits.
I don't want them.
Shits on the floor.
Meanwhile it was just roaches.
I was like she's like no, whydon't you at least put it on my
dresser?
Why would you do that?
I was like okay, whatever is,she wasn't embarrassed by the
roaches.
She was starting to getembarrassed, but I think I was
making her back.
When I first went in she wasokay, that's not good.

(01:09:57):
So yo, it was this one roach.
I didn't say to the peoplelisten, they cannot see my wall.
So we got.
You see that, that round thingon the walls.
It was a roach that big.
I swear, I swear on everything.

Speaker 5 (01:10:08):
I love it was one of the size of a dollar, a circle
dollar yeah, like one of them 50cent coins.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
It's big.
It was just standing there withthe antennas looking at me.
I was just stroking and justwatching.
He said he was next.
Yo, I could not focus on her.
She's like what's wrong?
I had to get up and I just left.

(01:10:35):
I could not do it that day.
It was just.
I was like I'm done.
So the funny thing about it.
So like maybe three days later,because I used to take that
route to go to work by her house.
Three days later I'm passing ahouse.
Why is it?
It's a termic terminex orsomething outside her house.
Well, exterminate the house.
I was like damn, I made thisgirl go get a sermon later she

(01:10:55):
needed it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
She needed it because that's uh.
So I thought we were talkingabout like dates.
I like dating experience allkinds of shit.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
I would say he was a lot for me um, just a lot like
he was cheating.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
It was a lot.
It was a mess overall.
But I remember telling him thatI was going, we would like date
in seeing other, but I wasn'treally like we were towards the
end of our relationship so Itold him I was going to sleep
and I really went out to NewYork and was partying.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
You need to die.
That sounds like you want todie.
Really Shit, if you were layingin my bed and you're going to
tell me you're going to sleepand then you're going to go to a
party.

Speaker 4 (01:11:51):
We didn't live together.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
I thought to a party.
We didn't live together.
Oh okay, I thought you, Ithought you're living.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Okay, no, we didn't live together, but we were
dating or whatever um.
Are you married?

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
no, we were not married exactly problem, keep in
mind, we were young, okay, 18,19 okay, what's number three?
All right.
So I guess I I might havepocket dialed him.
It was one of these phones likethe Blackberry, but it wasn't a
Blackberry, but anyway I pocketdialed him or something.
I'm in New York, keep in mind.
New York parties don't enduntil like 4 or 5 O'clock in the
morning, so I didn't get backto.
Did he listen to the wholething?

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
You're supposed to be home asleep, right?

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
I don't know what the fuck, but when I pulled up this
nigga was in front of my house.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Hold on the fact that you had a car when you was like
18, 19 like I'm still.

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
That is impressive.
Insurance was high as fuck Iknow it was pulled up to my
house.
He's like come get in the car.
It was very eerie.
I was like, do I scream now ordo I get in the car and play it
calm and cool and collective?
Right, I get in the car.
This nigga had a gun on his lap.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Oh shit.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
Yes, it was serious.
I was in the car.

Speaker 5 (01:13:02):
You're like oh, daddy , I won't do it again.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
You said daddy or diddy.

Speaker 5 (01:13:06):
Diddy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
Whatever works at the time.

Speaker 5 (01:13:10):
Daddy, diddy, whatever, the fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
Listen whatever he want.
Daddy did he listen whatever hewanted.
I was in that car, like Ireally, like I really was in a
car so what did he say?
Damn, this might be my last dayof living like for real.
For real, he was just like.
I can't even remember theconversation because you know
how you just like, so nervous Idon't know what the fuck
transpired.

(01:13:32):
Yeah, I don't know whattranspired, I just remember
being very agreeable like yeah,yeah, sure, okay, yep but was he
abusive anything like thatprior or?

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
any signs or like oh, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
Um, there were definitely signs, like I said,
he was a cheater.
So there's, I learned a lotfrom that experience.
Um, yeah, so prior to he hadlike a bunch of shit in his
phone with women and titties uh,pictures of titties with syrup

(01:14:16):
on it.
What the fuck he?

Speaker 5 (01:14:18):
he definitely signs like he was definitely crazy um,
those are the signs you're likeoh, there's nothing yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah like loves me so goodyeah, this listen when

Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
you young it was mediocre.
I think I just was like youngerme, was just like really into
the idea of love, notnecessarily like all the other
situations, it was just more ofthat.
But yeah, he was definitelycheating like call his phone
back to back to back and bitchespick up that's what all men do

(01:14:52):
all the time yup like black mendon't cheat, didn't he say that?
yes, he gave me a run for mymoney.
I'll say that definitely gaveme a run for my money.
He was a little, yeah, I think.
Yeah, the signs were there.
This nigga tatted my name onhis chest.

(01:15:12):
He was.
I wonder if it's still there.
I wonder too.
I be thinking like do he stillgot that big ass tattoo?

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
You should call him and ask him.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Yo get his number.
One day we're going to do apodcast and we're going to call
him.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
No, I'm not doing that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:25):
I'm outside our house right now.
What are?

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
you talking about?
Yeah, no, no, no, no with himlike that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
He in Jersey, we in PA.
Fuck that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
I don't know where he at.

Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
I don't want to know where he at.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
Honestly, just keep it real.
He probably a pastor somewhere.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
He did have to change his life because, you know,
niggas was after him.
He had to go in a differentdirection, definitely.

Speaker 5 (01:15:48):
He's like it was Malcolm X.
Wow, that's a stretch.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Yeah, so I thought I was gonna lose my life that
night?
Definitely, I don't think Iever you said you what you
almost lost your life behind agirl oh, you, probably.

Speaker 5 (01:16:06):
You said no, I'm gonna tell you how I got
abducted, and this was actuallylast week.
I almost got abducted last week, girl.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Yes, oh yeah, this was last week.
Oh, the real official last weekokay.

Speaker 5 (01:16:17):
So anybody who knows me knows like I'll be going out
at night because the bitch can'tsee.
Okay, I'll be driving.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
I'm like I'll just stay my ass home.

Speaker 5 (01:16:26):
So my girlfriend had asked me to go out to something,
and it was just past saturday,um the 28.
And I was like fine bitch, I'llgo because she'd be asking me
and like I never go.
So it was in Elizabeth, NewJersey, and so it was like a

(01:16:46):
restaurant, like lounge typearea, so it was like in, I guess
, the main part of the town, butthen there was like no parking
around the club.
So I parked on a side streetand it was raining out and I had
just that day straightened myhair.
So I was like if I go outsideand I get my hair thing, it'll

(01:17:06):
go poofy because my hair isnaturally curly.
So I had a shower cap on but Istill put my jacket over top to
like walk, you know, up to theplace or whatever.
So when I was walking, um, andit was kind of dark or whatever,
but I was like it wasn't toofar from the place, so I had
almost run into this guy, right,who was walking the opposite

(01:17:27):
way and I would.
He's like did I scare you?
And I was like, no, I was likeyou know, I'm sorry, Like my bad
, I wasn't paying attention,Whatever.
So he stood in front of me.
He's like well, where are yougoing?
I was like, oh, to this placeover here, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Hold on.
What was the nationality?

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
He was probably like he was some type of Hispanic,
okay, whatever, by his accentand the area we're in, that's
what I'm assuming um.
So he was like well, he's like,um, where I was like, oh,
somewhere up there, because I'mnot telling you where I'm going,
because you're not fitting tofollow me.
So he was like well, why don'tyou get in my car and I'll drive

(01:18:05):
you over there?
Bitch, by the time it's youknow, whatever.
So I'm like what?
And I was like no, I'm okay,thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
So he was standing in my way.

Speaker 5 (01:18:13):
He's like no, get in the car.
And I was like no, I'm okay,thank you.
So he was standing in my way.
He's like no, get in the car.
And I was like what like dopeople actually?
In my mind?
I'm like, do people actuallyfucking like do this shit?
So my son and I had justwatched a movie called the black
phone.
Have you ever seen that movie?
yes, that shit is good yes, butit's about being a fucking
abducted yeah so I was like, ohmy god, I gotta look it up like

(01:18:34):
this is.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
I'm about being a fucking abducted, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:18:35):
So I was like oh my god, I gotta look it up like
this is I'm about to be fuckingabducted, like so I started like
my body started like gettinginto like fight or flight
because he then he took my armand he was like no, get in the
car oh wow and I was like whatthe fuck are you talking about?
so I was like no, like bye.
And I just started walking andhe said something.
I turned around, looked at buthe was like saying something
like oh yeah, mommy, like likesomething along.

(01:18:58):
So I was like bitch, whatever.
So I started fucking running.
I had these like knee-highboots and fucking high-ass heels
and I was like fucking truckingit like through elizabeth which
, if you know me, I don't run,right so but I was like, oh my
god, like that was a crazyexperience for me.
I never had someone like beinglike like on my arm, like get in
the car.
Like I started looking likewhat does he have in his hands,

(01:19:20):
like I'm looking about mysurroundings, like is there
someone else?
yeah me like it was like one ofthose situations, like I was
generally like was he an olderguy?

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
he's an older guy or young guy?

Speaker 5 (01:19:31):
he had to be like maybe early 40s, late 30s,
something like it was somewherearound thick accent yeah, he,
you could tell that he was likeforeign I was like am I about to
be trafficked like they wouldthey?
Would they would try to like dothings to me the fucked up shit

(01:19:51):
about that is.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
You know, before you say some racist shit, you say I
don't want to sound racist.
You about to say it.
And this might be another topicWith a lot of the immigrants
coming over here, y'all see howthat immigrant had lit that lady
on fire.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
Oh, yeah, y'all see that shit.
Yeah, on the train.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
I didn't watch it and he was standing there, I
couldn't watch it.
And he was standing there, Ididn't see it.
I watched it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:17):
I watched the whole thing, but he was standing there
like he was trying to help, buthe was really the one who set
her on fire.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
And the crazy shit was motherfuckers taped it and
didn't fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Did you see the cop walk by, did you?
I didn't see it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
I didn't watch stuff like that, and he just kept it
moving.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
The cop was like mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Looked at it, he's like mm-hmm,mm-hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:20:35):
Because he probably sees shit like that, but it was
like he, like he even triedPeople are desensitized.

Speaker 4 (01:20:40):
People are desensitized, yes, but that's
how?

Speaker 5 (01:20:42):
I felt.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
I was like it's cold in here, give us some drinks,
you would.
You would have got it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Give us some drinks, you would escape I'm hungry, I'm
cold mommy, mommy, mommy, okay,bye, and he would have dropped
me back off.

Speaker 5 (01:21:11):
That's besides the point.
But still, like I was, likegenerally, I haven't felt like
scared in a long time.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
That's scary and that was scary.

Speaker 5 (01:21:18):
I was like that was last week in jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
Are y'all allowed to carry it's?

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
a process I don't know, I'm from.

Speaker 5 (01:21:26):
I'm from pa now and you can carry yeah yeah um, it's
a process you have to gothrough, like to get your.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
You can yeah, in jersey, when I used to live in
Jersey, you have to.
So they go by the, they go bythe county.
It's by the county, go by thecounty.

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
Definitely have to take a class.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
You gotta take a class now, when I was there, you
didn't have to take a class.
Now you gotta take a class andthey want you to be like,
trained to be able To do all aresometimes but a pa.
You pay your little 25 and walkup to walmart and get your gun
yep, I could go right onmainstream and buy me a gun,
yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
But I was like what the fuck?

Speaker 5 (01:22:00):
yeah, people are like losing it.
I'm like, does this shit workfor you?
Like you tell people get in thecar like they go?
Probably yeah young enough.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
You get it.
Young enough and dumb enoughyeah.

Speaker 5 (01:22:11):
So you know, I got home I told my son I was like oh
my god, guess what happened tome.
He was like you really werescared about that movie, right?

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
I'm like no, that's not the point I was like what's
it called phone, the black phone, the black phone.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Okay, I'm gonna look that up, it was all right.

Speaker 4 (01:22:26):
Human trafficking is a real thing, like you know oh
shit, do you understand you?

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
I mean, you are, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
Well, we took that training, but you, it ain't no
joke we the only I think we partof the only people trained for
that nonsense not I want to saynonsense, but that my homegirl
works for the fbi in the humantrafficking unit.

Speaker 5 (01:22:46):
She has to travel every year, like to different
places, but the main ones arethe with super bowls super, yeah
, super bowl night is a as amain oh yeah, because they want
that action.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
Right, it's the highest they plan years in
advance.
It's the highest day of trafficin the Super Bowl, it's the
whole weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
And I think they say like it's the areas, the
interstate, so we live off of 80.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
And those are 78.
All the airports in that area.
You know it was within a 50mile radius very high traffic
areas a lot of those they shipin, a lot of these Asian, these
Asian workers who you knowbasically got to pay the mule.
I know you all know aboutpaying the mule and all that
other stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:23:28):
I had one.
I knew that the children wouldbe in traffic, but it was for
labor yeah, what about theladies in the nail salons?
Yeah, definitely, when theypicked up in the van.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
If you go to Ironbound in Newark, a lot of
those workers in the restaurantare paying off their debt to be
here.
Absolutely yeah.
We got a couple of familiesfrom there that told us we got
to pay off our debt.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
Yeah, they can't get their information, all their
credentials.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
And they won't ship their families in.

Speaker 5 (01:23:58):
so we're back to depressed.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
I know, hey, we're back to depressed.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
I think, I started it .
Let's talk about sex.
Let's talk about sex.

Speaker 5 (01:24:09):
Let's talk about sex, Sex baby.
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