January 27, 2025 • 39 mins
*LOST EPISODE season 1 Date: January 2020*
What if we could rewrite history? Imagine a world where pivotal events like the arrival of the first slave ship in America or the tragic assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. never happened. Join us as the entire crew of the Imperfect Scenarios podcast tackles these profound "what if" scenarios, sparking a lively debate on how history's darkest moments have shaped our identities and societal structures. We're not just playing with time; we're pondering the potential transformation of Africa without the scars of slavery and celebrating the indomitable spirit and creativity of Black ingenuity that has propelled global progress.
Switching gears, we dive into an age-old debate about love versus stability in marriage. Personal stories fly as we each weigh the scales between the intoxicating joy of love and the grounding safety of financial security. There's laughter, disagreement, and even a bit of wisdom as we question whether stability can fill the void of a deep emotional bond. We reflect on marriage as both an emotional journey and a pragmatic partnership, where finding the right balance between passion and practicality becomes a lifelong pursuit.
And of course, we can't ignore the hilarious world of dating standards, especially from a male perspective. You'll hear us banter about the minimal and often humorous standards men claim to hold, which seem to shift and bend with age. We toss around pop culture references and laugh about the unrealistic expectations that might just be relics of youth. Looking ahead, we're excited to bring in a female guest to round out the conversation and keep things balanced. Tune in to experience a thought-provoking and entertaining whirlwind of history, love, money, and the amusing evolution of relationship standards.
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Thank you, I don't have the applause, so I know you
guys are waiting for it.
Oh, we can clap, we are back.
This is Imperfect Scenariospodcast.
Got the whole crew here today.
It's been a while since we'veall been together, right?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yo what up?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Happy holidays.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Oh, actually we was last week we were all together
we was all together.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
last week we did a podcast over at G-Mac's house.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
That bachelor pad.
Yeah, the bachelor pad oh ooh.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
He was missing like 30 minutes.
No, it was like an hour.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
No, it's like an hour juice run.
What happens in the pad staysin the pad.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
That's the targets around the corner.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
All right, you know I gotta start off with my what if
?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
question.
All right, this one is a twopart question, so I don't think
I'm supposed to ask in the twoparts, but I want to break it in
two parts.
I know you, I know you guys bynow and I want you to answer it
the way I want you to answer it.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
That's not fair, because I know about asking it.
I can answer it the way we wantto Because I know about asking
it.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
You guys are all because we seem like we're all
the same.
You guys, it's just boring.
I just you know who's boring.
He's boring.
(01:50):
I'm not Call out my name, allright.
So here's the question.
The question is if you could goback in history and change
something.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
what would you change Historically?
I know?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
something in your life.
That question is boring.
No, no, it won't be it won't be.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
What would you change ?
Just think about all the thingsthat happened.
You got slavery, you got theHolocaust, you have.
You got when the I guess theBritish came over and colonized
everything.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
But you know, when you think about those questions
like what would you change likein history, in your past, if you
changed certain things, howwould you be so sure that your
life would be exactly the way itis right now?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You're not sure.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Right, so I like my life right now.
I ain't changing.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
But.
And.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
I'm good with the event that occurred.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I like the story so the Supreme being comes down and
says listen, you have to make achoice and to change something
in history.
What would you change?
You don't think?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
things you would change.
I know for a fact what I wouldchange.
I would go back to 1619, and Iwould stop that first ship from
landing on the shores of America.
Bringing those eight thatsurvived slaves across the
Middle Passage.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Okay, you know what?
Let's put a pin in that.
I want to put it because Iguess I want to talk about that
a little bit, that wholesituation.
What about you, ness?
You got it.
What would you change?
You wouldn't change nothing inhistory.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
What would you change Right?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I think I would change the same thing.
No, you know what?
I wouldn't change that.
What I would change is I thinkI would have changed something
like stopping Martin Luther Kingfrom getting assassinated,
because I just think I thinkwhat happened to as far as
slavery we need that in oursouls to you know who we are?
That basically makes it who weare.
(03:37):
We changed that, don't tell mewhat we would be.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
You don't think like Martin Luther King getting shot
like if he would have lived tocontinue.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Do you think that it would have made such a huge
impact on our history if he werestill alive, I think some
certain things would have beenchanged, because if you think
about all the things that wasgoing on during that era you
have the boycotts going on, youhave all these like key things
that were going in our favor andhow we all came together as
people After that.
After that, the 60s, that wasit.
(04:05):
There's nothing else thatreally kept us together.
Who can we look to and say youknow what?
This is our person, this is whowe're going to get to the next
level?
It's nobody.
Tupac Okay, seriously, thinkabout it.
After Martin Luther King, whowas that person?
Don't say Jesse Jackson, okay,exactly.
So who was that person?
(04:25):
I think we would have went alittle bit further.
I think he started us in theright direction and then, once
he left, it kind of like— Ithink it's just like what we
were talking about the lastpodcast with Black Wall Street.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
As soon as integration happened, all of
that power we lost.
That's true.
We lost it in our churches, welost it in our communities, and
we've been the same thing withReverend King.
Rest his soul.
You know, once integrationstarted happening, it's kind of
like they reached that promisedland and then we stopped being
core participants of one another.
So I don't know.
I mean, it's a good choice.
(04:57):
It's a double-edged swordthough.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Well, I mean, you take slavery away, we We'd just
be sitting on the coast ofAfrica.
What Chucking spears?
I don't know, but you'remissing the ingenuity that we
have.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Just imagine.
If all our ingenuity was in themotherland and not here,
because we essentially helpedbuild this country, why couldn't
we do that in Africa?
It's so desolate right now, butall our engineers, all of our
musicians, all of our athletics,all of that in the motherland.
What.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Well, you think about it.
Let's think about it.
If you stop slavery, a lot ofthings would not be here today.
You may not have Cuba, you maynot have Puerto Rico, you may
not have Puerto Rico would stillbe here.
Well you're Portuguese, right,exactly.
So you see what I'm saying.
I'm saying the Puerto Ricans,we know, or the Cuba, as we know
, or the places that's likeAfro-Latina, they're gone.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
But you think we wouldn't have explored, you
don't think we would have leftthe shores of Africa on our own
accord?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
No, I think we would have and settled in other places
in the country, but it won't belike yeah, but I don't think it
would be to this degree.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
And that could be good because, those countries
are, I mean all of them, youknow, with the exception of
Puerto Rico a bit.
They all have, you know, living, you know, slightly below the
poverty line.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
So I mean that's not what you want anyway.
Ultimately Right.
Wow, Puerto Rico is as well.
They're in the same boat.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yes, so, okay.
So G-Max says slavery.
What about you, Nancy?
Would you change his thing?
Speaker 5 (06:24):
I think I'm going to go full-off feminist and say
that I would change therecognition of women and women's
rights earlier.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Oh, I would have, because I think that wins.
Give me a century.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
I mean, let's just say, the inception of, you know,
the United States Constitution.
I'm thinking politicalpolicy-wise 1700s yeah 1700s.
I think that women would havebeen such an instrumental part
in changing and developing thiscountry and, honestly, I think
we would be way far ahead.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Oh Wait, you ever ride with a female and you sit
in the back seat.
I think that's how it would be.
Oh shit, Really.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
No, I'm joking.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I'm keeping my mouth shut right now.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
No, no, maybe no, you're right.
You're actually right, becausea lot of the Guys we make
decisions based off of power.
I think a lot of those thingswith women is more emotional and
it probably would take somemore thought to it.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
So, yeah, you might be right, you might be on to
something and I think just thepower differential, you know,
sometimes, depending on thewoman or the man they could be,
women can be more rational.
I think men are a little bitmore impulsive when it comes to
power and authority.
I know you disagree becauseyou're going to.
You're going to say that wethink more emotionally and
that's irrational.
You do think emotionally.
(07:47):
You got to talk percentages.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Most women do think more emotionally Right and most
men do think more, you know,rationally and structurally.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
No, no, who said you meant, you Note that two people
saying no in the room?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I mean that's a good thing.
What 1700s?
So you would stop the 1700s andyou would I would incorporate
women.
Women into the whole.
I guess the whole process withthe Constitution probably would
have been Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Maybe it might have looked different, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Maybe, yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
All right.
What about you?
I don't think I would changeanything.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
You wouldn't change anything, nothing.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Nothing at all, no.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I don't think so Not off the top of my head, man, you
selfish.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, bro, what about you?
There's so many bad things thathappen in this world.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
He's like I just keep it to say what about you,
peaches?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Maybe back to the time we'll push it like back
where uh people of color couldown land.
Oh okay, like because you see,and it's still slowly moving
forward, very, very slowly, butyou know, just to us to be able
to own something versus us beingthe property.
So I think that I would, Iwould push that, push that back
(09:06):
back to earlier.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That's where.
I hear something.
Y'all hear something in thebackground.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Those are those voices that you've been taking
on the medication, for that'swhere.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I hear something.
Did you take your medication?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I know I ain't going crazy.
I was like no, I don't hearthat at all.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Okay.
So we all know.
You all said what you wouldchange.
Okay, now I'm going to throwthe second piece to it.
You guys are strong about this,right Strong, Okay?
So let's say that you changingthis would stop your parents
from meeting and you ever beingborn.
Would you still change it?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
No, well duh, didn't we just say no?
Which?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
is a very big show so I'm gonna say I'm gonna go on a
limb and say I would.
I would still change it rightbecause I think it may not be me
personally, but it would besome you know other
reincarnation of me, somewheresomehow, and I'd rather see our
people less.
You know the struggles thatwe've gone through all these
(10:04):
centuries.
Right now I'd rather see thatlessened, right, you know, for
the good.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I think I was, I think I was.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Oh, she's snoring.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
No, honestly, I think I would change it too.
You know why?
Just hold hands.
I think I would change it alsobecause I mean honestly just one
of those things where that'slike ultimately it's being
selfish, Like I think I wouldchange it, I wouldn't care, Like
, think about it, it's not likeyou're going to be in pain, you
just won't exist.
That just won't happen.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Then all of your lives would be empty if I wasn't
in it, oh please, but thinkabout it.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Think about the power that that gives you to do
something like that, to changesomething like that.
I think I would do it.
I was promised that everythingwould change and turn out the
way I thought it was going toturn out.
I would do it, the greater good.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I like that Good answer.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
There you go, bam Bam , all right.
So that leads us to the maintopic.
Mac, you guys are dry as hell.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
So we have an excellent, excellent topic today
and it kind of is two-faceted.
But we can break it down prettysimply, you know should you
marry for what we call love andbeing broke, versus being, let's
say, not loved and rich, Right?
So there's kind of twophilosophies here.
Do you marry for love or do youmarry for wealth?
Do you marry for romance andlove or do you marry for wealth
(11:32):
and riches and being secure?
So that's the topic and we'vealready had some pretty intense
debate already.
But hey, the table's open,let's go for this one.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
This is big and I got some stats after we start going
Okay, uh-oh, what about you,nessa, let's go with you,
because you was very vocal.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
I was vocal because, first of all, I have a problem
with the fact that we're at thetwo extremes, Like why can't
there be a happy medium here?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Okay, let's talk about the extremes in time we
should start off with definingbroke right.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Okay, I like that okay yes, that's, good, so broke
doesn't mean my broke may bedifferent than broke doesn't
mean you're living on the streetright but.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
But?
But you know the feeling youhave when you're you're secure
and you you have.
You know you have retirementfunds, you have the ability.
You're not living week to weekand you're very, very secure and
you don't.
So put it like this money isnot an object in your life.
You can afford everything youneed to, and some luxuries as
well.
So that's the antithesis ofbeing broke.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So broke would basically be living check to
check Exactly Okay.
So now we know that's ourdefinition for the listeners.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
What about you, ness?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I feel like, if we're going to, use those words, then
I, I would rather marry forlove, but stability is something
that is important.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
That's an important facet of marriage.
If you're going to take the bigstep and marry someone, I think
stability and security is notan option.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It is it has to occur .
Okay, Peaches you smiling.
What about you?
I wish we had a video.
You can see these faces.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
you gotta see these faces, but wait isn't there,
like you know, people who areconsidered I guess with our
definition broke that are livingin a paycheck.
They still can be financiallyfree, right Like if all their
bills are paid and they'resetting money aside.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
You trying to put.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I'm trying to help out the broke brothers.
These are people who are livingpaycheck to paycheck.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Can.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I go last.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Okay, what about you Flyboy, what's up?
Okay, what about you fly boy,what's up?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
well, um, I probably.
I don't know if I would marryfor love now that I'm at the age
that I am now.
Um, probably stability.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
So you're saying it's different than when?
Oh yeah, yeah, probablyprobably would be like oh you
know, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Exactly, I'm in love and nothing matters, but bills
need to get paid and shit needsto be done, so I would have to
choose, quote unquote, wealththen I guess.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
You learn to love.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Come on, tice, come on, bring it home.
Yeah, I can learn to love,bring it home bro, I can learn
to love.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
You can learn, bro, I can learn to love.
You can learn to love.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, it's hard to love somebody when you just
don't love no, but that's nottrue.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
You don't think so, me being the way I am, it takes
me a long time to even get tothat point.
If you're going to sit and waitfor me to fall in love with you
, you're going to be waiting fora long ass time.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
So I'm going to marry my ass now, and then I'll just
grow into it Grow into it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I don't know.
You know what.
I've been broke.
I've been broke before and I'vebeen in love before.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
What about at the same time?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, at the same time actually, yeah, so I don't
know I think anybody know memoney is not really a big thing.
To me, like I don't really.
Money is not nothing and and II learned to make it work being
broke and but I know I think itwould have been harder on me if
I was broke and not in love, asopposed to being broke in and
love.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
That's just fucked up .
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You broke in and out.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Horrible life.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
So I think I've seen people with money be miserable
in their relationship.
They're miserable and you seeall these people that are
killing themselves and they'rerich.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I saw this meme one time and it was like it says.
I know money doesn't buyhappiness, but I'd rather cry in
a Range Rover.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, but think about it, I don't know Honestly.
I'd rather be broken in love.
That's just me.
Money is good, money is nice,but after money you want to be
able to.
I know you're going to say youcould spend the money with the
person you with.
It's just not the same if youdon't have a relationship with
(16:02):
that person.
To me it's just, it's just notthe same with the young.
Don't have a relationship withthat person?
Just not.
To me it's just not.
I've been broke before and hadfun with the person I'm in love
with, so you know.
So it to me that is.
I mean, money is not everything.
Money don't.
It's just a root of all evils.
To me it starts a whole otherproblem.
That's it when you broke whenyou broke that's how you talk
(16:25):
when you broke.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
That's how you talk, right?
I don't see myself falling inlove, so I do you take the money
hell yeah you take the money.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Oh yeah, that's right yeah, it's just, it's just a
lot it just comes with a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I don't think it has to do.
I don't even see that in you,bro.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
I'll be honest I don't See, I don't feel like,
see, gmac and I were talkingbefore you guys got here, and
it's not that it has to do withthe money, but when you look at
marriage, Stability.
It doesn't.
It's business.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Marriage is a business, it is a business this
is true, it is a business, andyou have to be able to survive a
lifetime and sustain a lifetime.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
You talk about children and um property,
everything yeah, yeah, you needthat stability.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
So I I really finances are a big factor, so
I'm gonna be honest.
So if I had to choose right nowand there was a woman that
represented being you know,quote unquote successful, but
maybe you know not, someone whoI would be that deep kind of
soulmate experience in love withand a woman who I would feel
that deep kind of soulmateexperience in love with, and a
woman who I would feel that deepsoulmate experience but she
ain't really doing nothing forherself.
I know for a fact the kind ofperson I am.
(17:30):
I'm going to choose the personwho's moving forward, has upward
mobility, and maybe I won'thave that deep soul connection,
but I know that we'll besuccessful as a team, as a
couple and navigating throughthis life.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Do you have enough money where you could go be with
the one who?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
will see you now.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Now you're talking about.
Let's just say you can't dipoff, let's just say whatever
reason you can't have no size,no stuff.
Can you really be happy withsomebody that you're just not
happy with and spend money andjust not be happy with them?
You?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
can find the good in everyone to enjoy your time no
you can, you can find.
If there's nothing, obviouslyyou don't have a history or
whatever.
You can find the good and playon that and hang out.
There's certain parts ofeveryone that you're going to
connect with.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Why all these celebrities are getting divorces
.
There are other factors.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
There's too much availability in their lifestyle,
so they have everything elseavailable to them.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
That's what we're going with.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
That's where I'm going with that.
What I was going to say is itis possible because you have
cultures that have arrangedmarriages and they're successful
.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Well, I know two people that have arranged
marriages and they're miserable.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Are they broke?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
No, they're not broke either.
Whoa.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
All right.
So we got to go with the stats.
This is killing me now.
So a survey, recent survey byMarketWatch, very reputable
organization, said that in thissurvey, 56% of Americans say
they want a partner who providesfinancial security more than
head over heels love.
(19:00):
44% said they prefer the headover heels love versus financial
security.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
So you could see the way America's doing.
But I could also agree with tosee where you're at in your life
.
In my 20s, my answer wouldprobably be different.
You know what I mean, becauseyou're not as jaded, I guess, or
you're not as experienced.
But when you get closer to,when you're in your late 30s and
your 40s, it's a little bitdifferent.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
You hit the nail on the head because they did break
it down generationally and theysaid usually by the time you hit
30, that's when your thinkingstarts to change a bit more
toward financial security.
But this new generation,generation Z, like we just said
if you're real young.
You still head over heels love.
They could care less aboutmoney and everything else, but
they're not really making moneyat that point they don't know
(19:51):
what money is.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I guess you probably got to touch the money to know
what it means.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I just find it crazy, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Women, you guys tend to be gold diggers.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
No, I'm joking.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
What is with the shots to women today?
Speaker 4 (20:09):
No, it's fine, we need your gun.
No, I don't have it I can putit in there.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
But one more point, though, going back to arranged
marriages, because this isimportant.
This survey also cited that 86%of arranged marriages stay
together over the longer term,versus only 40% of non-arranged
marriages well, is that becauseof the cultural piece?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
it might be cultural, though I think they cheat on
each other, or maybe they justwork.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Maybe it works because the parents are saying
this husband and this wife putthem together.
This is the kind of mesh theywe're thinking they're going to
make?
Speaker 5 (20:46):
They don't really have a choice though they don't
have a choice.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
But you know it's being done from a business
perspective versus romance.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
There's a lot of cultures like you got to give
them a certain amount of moneyto the family.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yeah, already, yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
So I mean.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I can see it working.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
I don't know, I don't know if I could do an arranged
marriage.
Can you do an arranged marriage?
I don't know, I don't know if Icould do that.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I don't think so.
I don't know, it's not a partof my culture.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
You could do it.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
You know why, you guys said you were married for
money, so said financialstability, stability.
Now you're doing wordplay.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
I just like that word better.
Now you're doing wordplay.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Financial stability.
So you can't do one but you cando the other.
That don't make sense.
So you're saying you can get anarranged marriage but you can
marry for money.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
But the thing is, there's different.
I can see where you're goingwith that point, but there's
also you have a choice with theperson, like do you vibe with
them on some kind of level, justlike I was saying?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
let's just say you don't vibe on no level but then
how are you even dating just?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
that's what a range arranged marriage.
But I'm saying like when you'retalking about love versus you
know money.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Like you have a choice of your partner yeah,
that's just true.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
But if you but I guess I guess back you correct
me wrong you were saying that ifyou had to choose between the
person you were in love with andthe person with money, who
would you choose, right?
Speaker 4 (22:11):
well, I didn't even give my answer and you're like
okay, I'm sorry, give youranswer give your answer, she's
changing her answer I never saidan answer.
Hello, I don't you know.
I know what it's like to bebroke.
I also know what it's like tohave stability.
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I honestly would say that it'smuch more fulfilling to be broke
and in love.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Wow, wow.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Wow, it really is, and I would probably choose that
.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
And live check to check.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
But live happily ever after.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Do you guys think that people fall out of love in
time?
I think that's the history ofyour marriage.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
You fall out, you fall back in.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, that's definitely true when you marry
you fall out in love, you hatethe person to death and then
next thing you know you're backin love with them.
It's like a roller coaster.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
See, I got to challenge.
I have to challenge this one,though.
So if you had a binary choiceof two men sitting here right
now, One man was you connectedto him whatever way.
Maybe you called love or soldme, but he just wasn't
successful.
He wasn't doing his thing andthere was no chance of him ever
being successful.
Right Versus the man where,okay, I'm not clicking so much,
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I'm not getting the goosebumpsor whatever, but I know we're
going to have stability, we'regoing to have a great family,
we're going to buy a wonderfulhouse, we're going to live a
great future.
Which would you choose again?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I would choose the love.
I am a sucker for goosebumps.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Bam.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Not here, not here.
You say, you ain't got nogoosebumps.
But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
There's different levels of wealth.
I get what everybody's sayinglike yes, and it's absolutely
amazing to be in a situationwhere you don't have to worry
about anything right.
If I had to choose, like ifthose were my choices, I would
choose to live long with mypartner, who gives me goosebumps
every day and my heart stillflutters when I see him walk
into the room versus having ahouse that I'm like fuck, I'm
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home.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
This nigga's about to come in you know what.
I mean, I got a 12-bedroomhouse.
I want to hide from this guy,but I would choose love every
time.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Wow, okay, I love that, I mean stability.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I mean I get the whole financial stability and
you live comfortable.
But that's all empty stuff tome.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
To me it's just empty .
I'll just stay single and makemy own shit and make my own
money and buy my own shit.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
So for me, that's what it comes down to right.
Because we talked about likebeing at a point in your life
and I think that has to do withlike a certain age, once you hit
a certain age, but being at apoint in your life where you
have accomplished such and suchand such and it's like you want
some of that in your partnerbecause you want to be able to
grow together.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Right.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
You want to be able to be successful together, and
it is about being a team.
I 100% agree with that.
Yeah, and being, you know, apower couple.
I'm all about that.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
I'm with you, sister.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
That gives me goosebumps All right.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Boom, I'm in this I'm in this, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Okay, now I'm going to challenge you guys there.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
But wait one point before you say that.
Hold that thought, because Iwant to ask y'all one more
question.
So think of when you lighten afirecracker and you have this
light going to the firecracker.
Does love and someone askedthis question already does love
ever wear out?
Because if you have financialstability that lasts, we're
talking about forever.
Right, but can love actuallywear?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
out, but that's not guaranteed forever either, right
.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Somebody's leaving.
If somebody leaves, who'sgetting the money?
Speaker 5 (25:51):
We can't in half.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
See exactly.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Financial stability is never promised either right,
like it's there for and you canplan, but it's not always
guaranteed.
Yeah, just like love may neverbe guaranteed, so you could play
both sides of that.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Okay, yeah, I mean she said that.
She summed it up Like what doyou want to do?
Like, like, honestly, if youbroke and she leaves, what's she
taking?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Wait did it, versus like she's taking it.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
He's like what's half of zero?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Nothing from nothing leads you with nothing Negative
one, so you got to look at itthat way.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
If you want love.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
That's what he said before.
What happens with half ofnothing.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Half of nothing.
You ain't getting nothing.
We will part our ways.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Y'all making me rethink this whole thing and I
don't want to, but seriously yougot the money.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
At the end of the day , it's just money.
Like you happy yes, you happyyou could do things that you
want, but you got to, honestly,I mean.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
There's obviously benefits on the money side.
You know I'm not saying it'sterrible, right, but I think
that the other side outweighs,because you have to be with this
person.
You're planning to live untilyou're 90 or 100.
Like that love and that energy,like that is going to give you
longevity.
You know me stressing out beingwith someone you're not, you
(27:18):
don't love and like being upsetall the time, that's going to
shorten your lifespan so I'mgonna, I'm gonna throw this at
tyson as a as a father a man.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Check this out.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Your daughter, your beloved daughter.
We choose any one of them.
She comes to you and says Dad,I fell in love with this guy and
I'm going to throw a name atyou silently.
I'm not going to say the nameover there.
Okay, this is the guy she'sbringing to the table right.
(27:52):
And's this other guy who'swho's?
You know, courting her andeverything.
Nice young man, you know he's,he's going to school, he's gonna
get his phd, you know he, hemay not be the most attractive
dude, but he's, he's focused.
He won't, he's not gonna cheaton her, he's gonna treat her
good, but you know he's gonnahave stability in the long run.
What are you gonna say to yourbaby.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
First of all, the day that you threw at me, he got
all kinds of issues, but let'sjust talk about the broke issue.
That's different.
Why are you speaking from afather, right?
Right, because what we want ourchildren to go through and
learn and endure is totallydifferent than what we believe
in ourselves.
So, yes, I would like mydaughter to go with the doctor
(28:29):
who's going to be stable, who'sgoing to put her in a mansion,
but that's my choice.
But I would hope she would makethe choice.
That's, you know, part of herheart, you know.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
That's tough too.
Like I have a daughter but Idon't know if I would steer her
in the way of like being asituation where she is there for
finances.
You know what I'm saying.
Like you know, of coursethey're going to make their own
decision, but I can't look mybaby girl in the eye and be like
you need to find someone whohas a bunch of money and is
going to take care of you.
Like I want her to be happy andloved and be able to navigate
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that system.
Right, I don't know I'll throwher some of mine like we want
our kids so you can be happy andin love.
Don't share that.
We want our kids to be happy.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
We want our kids to be happy, we want them to go to
college, we want them tograduate, we want them to be
doctors, we want them to belawyers.
But ultimately it's theirdecision, and I would hope she
would make decisions based offof what she feel in her heart
and not what I want, because,yeah, you're right, I do want
her to stay away from that guy,I want her to go with the doctor
, I want her to drive in theRange Rovers and I want her to
do all this other stuff.
But I know, realistically—there's a lot of stuff that
(29:35):
comes with that.
Right and realistically, she'sgoing to do what she's wanted.
Naturally, girls, yourdaughters's going to end up with
that person.
I'm not going to like it.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
And I hate to sound superficial about it, but the
reality is, and I've even hadgirls tell me, you know, if I
pulled up to their house in ahoopty, because at that point I
had a BMW and I was runningaround and I would come pick
them up and they'd be allcavalier about it and happy.
But if same person I pull up ina hoopty, you know, come pick
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them up and they'd be all, likeyou know, cavalier about it and
happy.
But if same person I pull up ina hoopty, you know how would
you have felt about that?
And I've had women tell me Idon't know, I would have thought
twice about that.
Like you know, I want to seesuccess in the man that I'm with
Listen.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
my husband showed up to the first date with a
wrinkled ass T-shirt with a holein it and some fucking beat up
sneakers and he said take me orleave me.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
And what did you do?
And you married, aren't you?
Speaker 4 (30:35):
but listen, that's what I'm saying.
It was for love, obviously,because I was like okay, what?
Because you know?
So then, but you know, you getto know them and it's a
different, you know.
Then you start to worry lessabout those material things.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Did you see through that?
Did you see through that?
Speaker 4 (30:54):
what do you mean?
Like so you, okay, he showed up, he's still dressed the same
way right, but did you seethrough it?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
because sometimes you could see a person dressed like
a just say I would say quote,unquote, bummy, but you know
they got money.
Like you could look at a personand know that yeah, okay, you
look dirty, but you smell likeyou smell like uh uh georgio, uh
, vizente or some kind of umcologne, but you, I didn't know
that at first.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
I I mean at first, like he drove a pretty okay car.
It was like, you know, anInfiniti, but it wasn't like a
BMW or something like that whereyou could be like, oh, like you
know what I mean Because I hadmy own car.
You know what I mean.
So it wasn't that stuff did notimpress me.
You know, eventually, likelater on down the still you're
getting to know them, but firstimpression, like he didn't come
(31:37):
up with no BMW or like aMercedes, like he came with a
and I'd crack up and I'd talk tohim, we'd joke about it.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I'm like yo, you lucky you got a second date
because you came like you werewrinkled and Right.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
He's like you take me or you leave me, right I?
Speaker 5 (31:57):
can't do a damn hole in a shirt, don't you come out?
Listen, he's still got the damnshirt hanging in the closet
like it's an artifact, I'd belike can I put this away?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, he's like.
No, it's our first day shirt.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
It has a bigger hole.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
So okay, you say you can't do a hole in a shirt.
Because I don't go out likethat so when he takes you out,
you want him to look presentable.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
This is my theory okay we are out together.
We are a representation of eachother okay, I like that.
I'm not gonna come out herehaving you looking crazy, and I
would expect the same, thank youokay, I tried that so one of
the guys people still think I'ma prostitute, oh shit.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
So raunchy ass right they be.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
He's presentable in a way, but he's just not dressed
the way you want him to dress.
Because that happens a guy comeout, let's just say he comes
out with a a button up, with abutterfly collar, and he's just
looking like right, as long asyou're clean he's clean and as
long as your clothes don't looklike you just took them out of
the dumpster or the hamper,we're good.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Okay, like you know fashion sense and things like
that.
Like I'm not that shallow, youknow we can work on that over
time.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
However, You're not with some pointy shoes or some
corduroys.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Well, I wouldn't have talked to him in the first
place.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I was like you're changing an aspect of that
person, like right, right, Ididn't have the heart to do that
.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah, but the point is, you shouldn't be judging a
book by its cover, right, no,right.
That's essentially the point.
Right, you got to let them live.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
You can wear whatever you want.
As long as we get this datenight off, we good.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
You can wear whatever you want when you're not with
me.
Don't wear that hole in yourshirt when we're together.
Really, I don't know Seriouslymy God Ness you're starting to
sound really shallow.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
That's terrible, sorry, oops, jesus Christ, we
need the camera right now.
You need to have money.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
You got to dress right, you can't have no hole in
the shirt.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
It can't be wr.
You know what.
This is actually a topic that Iwant to talk about.
I think we need a whole hour.
A lot of women these days haveso high standards of what they
want yes, lord and they're notwilling to budge.
So I want to talk about itbecause I know several women
what's the point of you lookingat me?
For I know several women intheir upper 40s and they're
still single, but theirstandards are so high and
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they're not willing to budge.
Why are you women not willingto budge on certain things?
Because they got a vibratorRight, hello.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Woo-hoo.
Okay, hey, I know girls likethat.
They're like well, shit, Cut tothe chase.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Well you're going to be 72 using a vibrator.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Hey, hey, hey.
If we gave grandma one, shewould use it.
You're right.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Your grandma.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, listen, I'll tell you about my grandmother.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Hey, Don't judge a book by its cover.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Like we said that's another story, that's another
story, that's another story.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
My grandmother's off the hook.
But, so but so a lot of grandma.
So is that a high standard toexpect a man to come out without
a hole in his shirt?
Speaker 1 (35:03):
No, no, no, no.
I'm just saying, I'm just.
That was just one of the thingsI was just talking about.
I know a lot of women that areat the age where you were like,
okay, you might want to bemarried now, but there's you.
Listen to the reasons why whena guy does this.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Well, unrealistic expectations?
No, it's realistic.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
But if you don't find it, if you get to a certain age
.
I think you need to lower yourstandards.
Some people are not willing tolower their standards.
I know one girl I hope shedoesn't listen to my podcast,
I'm not going to say her nameshe wants Say it.
Yeah right, I'll do it.
She wants a guy who has to bemuscular, he has to be
dark-skinned, he has to be tall.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Those are basics.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
No, it's not really basic because, you believe it or
not, you exed out a lot ofpeople, right, you exed out a
lot of people and she was notbudged.
He has to be a certain look.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
That's stupid because you can get into the gym and
get pumped up.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
But I guess her thing is, if I can't make it past the
first initial visit or themeeting, it's not going to
happen.
And she really to this day andshe's in like 44, 45, and she's
like well, I didn't find theright person yet See superficial
women.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
I run away from like that that's so superficial.
I run away from that Like fast,right Because.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Right, because I mean the looks is one thing, but
like how long this looks last,like come on, what's gonna
happen?
She would not budge you, youknow, you hinted, she would not
budge but she's not the onlyperson I know about.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Probably something else wrong with her.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Like, then, like she's probably very insecure.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yeah, I don't know, but and I know, I know another
female, another female who she'snot going to date you unless
you were, like an ex streetperson.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I mean I can yeah yeah, I've had women tell me
that too right, but, but youstill.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
but you cut out a lot of people, Still, you still.
You cut out a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Like you said, you gotta be in jail, you get
murdered.
Oh fuck that.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I don't think I want that.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Let's not go that far be the next victim.
Right exactly your house getraided.
You wonder why he'd be like ooh, I'll bail you out, baby so
that's gonna be, I think, thenext.
The next topic is next week isgonna be that I wanna talk to
you guys.
I wanna pick your brainsactually.
I wanna, actually, I want some,maybe some guests too also okay
(37:18):
, we can do that.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I want some um, maybe some uh guests too also okay,
um, we can do that.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
I want some guests and I want to.
I want to rotate them.
I want, we're going, we'regonna make it a little deeper.
We're never gonna make it alittle deeper.
So you guys do your research godeeper, do your research and I
really want to know what is.
What is the?
Why can't you change from yourstandards?
Because I think guys arewilling to change it guys, we
don't really have no standards.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
You don't have standards, we don't, we have
standards but, we know how to beflexible.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
We're flexible with our standards.
Do you have a pussy okay?
Speaker 5 (37:47):
check what's wrong with that.
That's a standard check.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
That's all you need.
Does she have a pussy?
Speaker 1 (37:54):
yes, okay, like does she have a pussy?
Yes, okay, good, you can't workwith that.
Check, check.
So you know.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
I think men have different standards when they're
younger.
I think young men have likereally stupid, unrealistic
standards and then as you getolder, you guys kind of, are a
little bit more flexible.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
What's that song we were singing?
Well, I was telling you thatguy who was like I don't have a
type Bad bitches is the onlything that I like, that's a
standard, that's a standard, allyou got to do is be a bad bitch
.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah, you know, I guess most people have standards
, but I guess we're going to saythat for next time.
I think that'd be a good topic.
I'm trying to bring a guest.
We could try to see if we couldget real deeper into it.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
I think it should be another female.
Let's equalize the number.
It could be another female.
It could be a couple femaleswhat we can do.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
We can rotate the mics, whatever we can get it
going and see what happens.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Bring them on.
Bring them on.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
So that's going to be the next topic.
We're going to see what's thedeal with standards.
Can standards be altered andyour standards?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Oh, I love it, love it.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
How's that I have the perfect person to call.
Oh well, I guess that's all Ihave to say Bye.
Thank you, I don't have the applause, so I know you
guys are waiting for it.
Oh, we can clap, we are back.
This is Imperfect Scenariospodcast.
Got the whole crew here today.
It's been a while since we'veall been together, right?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yo what up?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Happy holidays.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Oh, actually we was last week we were all together
we was all together.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
last week we did a podcast over at G-Mac's house.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
That bachelor pad.
Yeah, the bachelor pad oh ooh.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
He was missing like 30 minutes.
No, it was like an hour.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
No, it's like an hour juice run.
What happens in the pad staysin the pad.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
That's the targets around the corner.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
All right, you know I gotta start off with my what if
?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
question.
All right, this one is a twopart question, so I don't think
I'm supposed to ask in the twoparts, but I want to break it in
two parts.
I know you, I know you guys bynow and I want you to answer it
the way I want you to answer it.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
That's not fair, because I know about asking it.
I can answer it the way we wantto Because I know about asking
it.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
You guys are all because we seem like we're all
the same.
You guys, it's just boring.
I just you know who's boring.
He's boring.
(01:50):
I'm not Call out my name, allright.
So here's the question.
The question is if you could goback in history and change
something.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
what would you change Historically?
I know?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
something in your life.
That question is boring.
No, no, it won't be it won't be.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
What would you change ?
Just think about all the thingsthat happened.
You got slavery, you got theHolocaust, you have.
You got when the I guess theBritish came over and colonized
everything.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
But you know, when you think about those questions
like what would you change likein history, in your past, if you
changed certain things, howwould you be so sure that your
life would be exactly the way itis right now?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You're not sure.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Right, so I like my life right now.
I ain't changing.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
But.
And.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
I'm good with the event that occurred.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I like the story so the Supreme being comes down and
says listen, you have to make achoice and to change something
in history.
What would you change?
You don't think?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
things you would change.
I know for a fact what I wouldchange.
I would go back to 1619, and Iwould stop that first ship from
landing on the shores of America.
Bringing those eight thatsurvived slaves across the
Middle Passage.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Okay, you know what?
Let's put a pin in that.
I want to put it because Iguess I want to talk about that
a little bit, that wholesituation.
What about you, ness?
You got it.
What would you change?
You wouldn't change nothing inhistory.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
What would you change Right?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I think I would change the same thing.
No, you know what?
I wouldn't change that.
What I would change is I thinkI would have changed something
like stopping Martin Luther Kingfrom getting assassinated,
because I just think I thinkwhat happened to as far as
slavery we need that in oursouls to you know who we are?
That basically makes it who weare.
(03:37):
We changed that, don't tell mewhat we would be.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
You don't think like Martin Luther King getting shot
like if he would have lived tocontinue.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Do you think that it would have made such a huge
impact on our history if he werestill alive, I think some
certain things would have beenchanged, because if you think
about all the things that wasgoing on during that era you
have the boycotts going on, youhave all these like key things
that were going in our favor andhow we all came together as
people After that.
After that, the 60s, that wasit.
(04:05):
There's nothing else thatreally kept us together.
Who can we look to and say youknow what?
This is our person, this is whowe're going to get to the next
level?
It's nobody.
Tupac Okay, seriously, thinkabout it.
After Martin Luther King, whowas that person?
Don't say Jesse Jackson, okay,exactly.
So who was that person?
(04:25):
I think we would have went alittle bit further.
I think he started us in theright direction and then, once
he left, it kind of like— Ithink it's just like what we
were talking about the lastpodcast with Black Wall Street.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
As soon as integration happened, all of
that power we lost.
That's true.
We lost it in our churches, welost it in our communities, and
we've been the same thing withReverend King.
Rest his soul.
You know, once integrationstarted happening, it's kind of
like they reached that promisedland and then we stopped being
core participants of one another.
So I don't know.
I mean, it's a good choice.
(04:57):
It's a double-edged swordthough.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Well, I mean, you take slavery away, we We'd just
be sitting on the coast ofAfrica.
What Chucking spears?
I don't know, but you'remissing the ingenuity that we
have.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Just imagine.
If all our ingenuity was in themotherland and not here,
because we essentially helpedbuild this country, why couldn't
we do that in Africa?
It's so desolate right now, butall our engineers, all of our
musicians, all of our athletics,all of that in the motherland.
What.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Well, you think about it.
Let's think about it.
If you stop slavery, a lot ofthings would not be here today.
You may not have Cuba, you maynot have Puerto Rico, you may
not have Puerto Rico would stillbe here.
Well you're Portuguese, right,exactly.
So you see what I'm saying.
I'm saying the Puerto Ricans,we know, or the Cuba, as we know
, or the places that's likeAfro-Latina, they're gone.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
But you think we wouldn't have explored, you
don't think we would have leftthe shores of Africa on our own
accord?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
No, I think we would have and settled in other places
in the country, but it won't belike yeah, but I don't think it
would be to this degree.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
And that could be good because, those countries
are, I mean all of them, youknow, with the exception of
Puerto Rico a bit.
They all have, you know, living, you know, slightly below the
poverty line.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
So I mean that's not what you want anyway.
Ultimately Right.
Wow, Puerto Rico is as well.
They're in the same boat.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yes, so, okay.
So G-Max says slavery.
What about you, Nancy?
Would you change his thing?
Speaker 5 (06:24):
I think I'm going to go full-off feminist and say
that I would change therecognition of women and women's
rights earlier.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Oh, I would have, because I think that wins.
Give me a century.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
I mean, let's just say, the inception of, you know,
the United States Constitution.
I'm thinking politicalpolicy-wise 1700s yeah 1700s.
I think that women would havebeen such an instrumental part
in changing and developing thiscountry and, honestly, I think
we would be way far ahead.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Oh Wait, you ever ride with a female and you sit
in the back seat.
I think that's how it would be.
Oh shit, Really.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
No, I'm joking.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I'm keeping my mouth shut right now.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
No, no, maybe no, you're right.
You're actually right, becausea lot of the Guys we make
decisions based off of power.
I think a lot of those thingswith women is more emotional and
it probably would take somemore thought to it.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
So, yeah, you might be right, you might be on to
something and I think just thepower differential, you know,
sometimes, depending on thewoman or the man they could be,
women can be more rational.
I think men are a little bitmore impulsive when it comes to
power and authority.
I know you disagree becauseyou're going to.
You're going to say that wethink more emotionally and
that's irrational.
You do think emotionally.
(07:47):
You got to talk percentages.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Most women do think more emotionally Right and most
men do think more, you know,rationally and structurally.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
No, no, who said you meant, you Note that two people
saying no in the room?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I mean that's a good thing.
What 1700s?
So you would stop the 1700s andyou would I would incorporate
women.
Women into the whole.
I guess the whole process withthe Constitution probably would
have been Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Maybe it might have looked different, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Maybe, yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
All right.
What about you?
I don't think I would changeanything.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
You wouldn't change anything, nothing.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Nothing at all, no.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I don't think so Not off the top of my head, man, you
selfish.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, bro, what about you?
There's so many bad things thathappen in this world.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
He's like I just keep it to say what about you,
peaches?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Maybe back to the time we'll push it like back
where uh people of color couldown land.
Oh okay, like because you see,and it's still slowly moving
forward, very, very slowly, butyou know, just to us to be able
to own something versus us beingthe property.
So I think that I would, Iwould push that, push that back
(09:06):
back to earlier.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That's where.
I hear something.
Y'all hear something in thebackground.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Those are those voices that you've been taking
on the medication, for that'swhere.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I hear something.
Did you take your medication?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I know I ain't going crazy.
I was like no, I don't hearthat at all.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Okay.
So we all know.
You all said what you wouldchange.
Okay, now I'm going to throwthe second piece to it.
You guys are strong about this,right Strong, Okay?
So let's say that you changingthis would stop your parents
from meeting and you ever beingborn.
Would you still change it?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
No, well duh, didn't we just say no?
Which?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
is a very big show so I'm gonna say I'm gonna go on a
limb and say I would.
I would still change it rightbecause I think it may not be me
personally, but it would besome you know other
reincarnation of me, somewheresomehow, and I'd rather see our
people less.
You know the struggles thatwe've gone through all these
(10:04):
centuries.
Right now I'd rather see thatlessened, right, you know, for
the good.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I think I was, I think I was.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Oh, she's snoring.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
No, honestly, I think I would change it too.
You know why?
Just hold hands.
I think I would change it alsobecause I mean honestly just one
of those things where that'slike ultimately it's being
selfish, Like I think I wouldchange it, I wouldn't care, Like
, think about it, it's not likeyou're going to be in pain, you
just won't exist.
That just won't happen.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Then all of your lives would be empty if I wasn't
in it, oh please, but thinkabout it.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Think about the power that that gives you to do
something like that, to changesomething like that.
I think I would do it.
I was promised that everythingwould change and turn out the
way I thought it was going toturn out.
I would do it, the greater good.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I like that Good answer.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
There you go, bam Bam , all right.
So that leads us to the maintopic.
Mac, you guys are dry as hell.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
So we have an excellent, excellent topic today
and it kind of is two-faceted.
But we can break it down prettysimply, you know should you
marry for what we call love andbeing broke, versus being, let's
say, not loved and rich, Right?
So there's kind of twophilosophies here.
Do you marry for love or do youmarry for wealth?
Do you marry for romance andlove or do you marry for wealth
(11:32):
and riches and being secure?
So that's the topic and we'vealready had some pretty intense
debate already.
But hey, the table's open,let's go for this one.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
This is big and I got some stats after we start going
Okay, uh-oh, what about you,nessa, let's go with you,
because you was very vocal.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
I was vocal because, first of all, I have a problem
with the fact that we're at thetwo extremes, Like why can't
there be a happy medium here?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Okay, let's talk about the extremes in time we
should start off with definingbroke right.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Okay, I like that okay yes, that's, good, so broke
doesn't mean my broke may bedifferent than broke doesn't
mean you're living on the streetright but.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
But?
But you know the feeling youhave when you're you're secure
and you you have.
You know you have retirementfunds, you have the ability.
You're not living week to weekand you're very, very secure and
you don't.
So put it like this money isnot an object in your life.
You can afford everything youneed to, and some luxuries as
well.
So that's the antithesis ofbeing broke.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So broke would basically be living check to
check Exactly Okay.
So now we know that's ourdefinition for the listeners.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
What about you, ness?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I feel like, if we're going to, use those words, then
I, I would rather marry forlove, but stability is something
that is important.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
That's an important facet of marriage.
If you're going to take the bigstep and marry someone, I think
stability and security is notan option.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It is it has to occur .
Okay, Peaches you smiling.
What about you?
I wish we had a video.
You can see these faces.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
you gotta see these faces, but wait isn't there,
like you know, people who areconsidered I guess with our
definition broke that are livingin a paycheck.
They still can be financiallyfree, right Like if all their
bills are paid and they'resetting money aside.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
You trying to put.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I'm trying to help out the broke brothers.
These are people who are livingpaycheck to paycheck.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Can.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I go last.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Okay, what about you Flyboy, what's up?
Okay, what about you fly boy,what's up?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
well, um, I probably.
I don't know if I would marryfor love now that I'm at the age
that I am now.
Um, probably stability.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
So you're saying it's different than when?
Oh yeah, yeah, probablyprobably would be like oh you
know, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Exactly, I'm in love and nothing matters, but bills
need to get paid and shit needsto be done, so I would have to
choose, quote unquote, wealththen I guess.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
You learn to love.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Come on, tice, come on, bring it home.
Yeah, I can learn to love,bring it home bro, I can learn
to love.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
You can learn, bro, I can learn to love.
You can learn to love.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, it's hard to love somebody when you just
don't love no, but that's nottrue.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
You don't think so, me being the way I am, it takes
me a long time to even get tothat point.
If you're going to sit and waitfor me to fall in love with you
, you're going to be waiting fora long ass time.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
So I'm going to marry my ass now, and then I'll just
grow into it Grow into it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I don't know.
You know what.
I've been broke.
I've been broke before and I'vebeen in love before.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
What about at the same time?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, at the same time actually, yeah, so I don't
know I think anybody know memoney is not really a big thing.
To me, like I don't really.
Money is not nothing and and II learned to make it work being
broke and but I know I think itwould have been harder on me if
I was broke and not in love, asopposed to being broke in and
love.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
That's just fucked up .
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You broke in and out.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Horrible life.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
So I think I've seen people with money be miserable
in their relationship.
They're miserable and you seeall these people that are
killing themselves and they'rerich.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I saw this meme one time and it was like it says.
I know money doesn't buyhappiness, but I'd rather cry in
a Range Rover.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, but think about it, I don't know Honestly.
I'd rather be broken in love.
That's just me.
Money is good, money is nice,but after money you want to be
able to.
I know you're going to say youcould spend the money with the
person you with.
It's just not the same if youdon't have a relationship with
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that person.
To me it's just, it's just notthe same with the young.
Don't have a relationship withthat person?
Just not.
To me it's just not.
I've been broke before and hadfun with the person I'm in love
with, so you know.
So it to me that is.
I mean, money is not everything.
Money don't.
It's just a root of all evils.
To me it starts a whole otherproblem.
That's it when you broke whenyou broke that's how you talk
(16:25):
when you broke.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
That's how you talk, right?
I don't see myself falling inlove, so I do you take the money
hell yeah you take the money.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Oh yeah, that's right yeah, it's just, it's just a
lot it just comes with a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I don't think it has to do.
I don't even see that in you,bro.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
I'll be honest I don't See, I don't feel like,
see, gmac and I were talkingbefore you guys got here, and
it's not that it has to do withthe money, but when you look at
marriage, Stability.
It doesn't.
It's business.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Marriage is a business, it is a business this
is true, it is a business, andyou have to be able to survive a
lifetime and sustain a lifetime.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
You talk about children and um property,
everything yeah, yeah, you needthat stability.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
So I I really finances are a big factor, so
I'm gonna be honest.
So if I had to choose right nowand there was a woman that
represented being you know,quote unquote successful, but
maybe you know not, someone whoI would be that deep kind of
soulmate experience in love withand a woman who I would feel
that deep kind of soulmateexperience in love with, and a
woman who I would feel that deepsoulmate experience but she
ain't really doing nothing forherself.
I know for a fact the kind ofperson I am.
(17:30):
I'm going to choose the personwho's moving forward, has upward
mobility, and maybe I won'thave that deep soul connection,
but I know that we'll besuccessful as a team, as a
couple and navigating throughthis life.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Do you have enough money where you could go be with
the one who?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
will see you now.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Now you're talking about.
Let's just say you can't dipoff, let's just say whatever
reason you can't have no size,no stuff.
Can you really be happy withsomebody that you're just not
happy with and spend money andjust not be happy with them?
You?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
can find the good in everyone to enjoy your time no
you can, you can find.
If there's nothing, obviouslyyou don't have a history or
whatever.
You can find the good and playon that and hang out.
There's certain parts ofeveryone that you're going to
connect with.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Why all these celebrities are getting divorces
.
There are other factors.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
There's too much availability in their lifestyle,
so they have everything elseavailable to them.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
That's what we're going with.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
That's where I'm going with that.
What I was going to say is itis possible because you have
cultures that have arrangedmarriages and they're successful
.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Well, I know two people that have arranged
marriages and they're miserable.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Are they broke?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
No, they're not broke either.
Whoa.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
All right.
So we got to go with the stats.
This is killing me now.
So a survey, recent survey byMarketWatch, very reputable
organization, said that in thissurvey, 56% of Americans say
they want a partner who providesfinancial security more than
head over heels love.
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44% said they prefer the headover heels love versus financial
security.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
So you could see the way America's doing.
But I could also agree with tosee where you're at in your life
.
In my 20s, my answer wouldprobably be different.
You know what I mean, becauseyou're not as jaded, I guess, or
you're not as experienced.
But when you get closer to,when you're in your late 30s and
your 40s, it's a little bitdifferent.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
You hit the nail on the head because they did break
it down generationally and theysaid usually by the time you hit
30, that's when your thinkingstarts to change a bit more
toward financial security.
But this new generation,generation Z, like we just said
if you're real young.
You still head over heels love.
They could care less aboutmoney and everything else, but
they're not really making moneyat that point they don't know
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what money is.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I guess you probably got to touch the money to know
what it means.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I just find it crazy, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Women, you guys tend to be gold diggers.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
No, I'm joking.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
What is with the shots to women today?
Speaker 4 (20:09):
No, it's fine, we need your gun.
No, I don't have it I can putit in there.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
But one more point, though, going back to arranged
marriages, because this isimportant.
This survey also cited that 86%of arranged marriages stay
together over the longer term,versus only 40% of non-arranged
marriages well, is that becauseof the cultural piece?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
it might be cultural, though I think they cheat on
each other, or maybe they justwork.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Maybe it works because the parents are saying
this husband and this wife putthem together.
This is the kind of mesh theywe're thinking they're going to
make?
Speaker 5 (20:46):
They don't really have a choice though they don't
have a choice.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
But you know it's being done from a business
perspective versus romance.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
There's a lot of cultures like you got to give
them a certain amount of moneyto the family.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yeah, already, yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
So I mean.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I can see it working.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
I don't know, I don't know if I could do an arranged
marriage.
Can you do an arranged marriage?
I don't know, I don't know if Icould do that.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I don't think so.
I don't know, it's not a partof my culture.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
You could do it.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
You know why, you guys said you were married for
money, so said financialstability, stability.
Now you're doing wordplay.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
I just like that word better.
Now you're doing wordplay.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Financial stability.
So you can't do one but you cando the other.
That don't make sense.
So you're saying you can get anarranged marriage but you can
marry for money.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
But the thing is, there's different.
I can see where you're goingwith that point, but there's
also you have a choice with theperson, like do you vibe with
them on some kind of level, justlike I was saying?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
let's just say you don't vibe on no level but then
how are you even dating just?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
that's what a range arranged marriage.
But I'm saying like when you'retalking about love versus you
know money.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Like you have a choice of your partner yeah,
that's just true.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
But if you but I guess I guess back you correct
me wrong you were saying that ifyou had to choose between the
person you were in love with andthe person with money, who
would you choose, right?
Speaker 4 (22:11):
well, I didn't even give my answer and you're like
okay, I'm sorry, give youranswer give your answer, she's
changing her answer I never saidan answer.
Hello, I don't you know.
I know what it's like to bebroke.
I also know what it's like tohave stability.
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I honestly would say that it'smuch more fulfilling to be broke
and in love.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Wow, wow.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Wow, it really is, and I would probably choose that
.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
And live check to check.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
But live happily ever after.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Do you guys think that people fall out of love in
time?
I think that's the history ofyour marriage.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
You fall out, you fall back in.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, that's definitely true when you marry
you fall out in love, you hatethe person to death and then
next thing you know you're backin love with them.
It's like a roller coaster.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
See, I got to challenge.
I have to challenge this one,though.
So if you had a binary choiceof two men sitting here right
now, One man was you connectedto him whatever way.
Maybe you called love or soldme, but he just wasn't
successful.
He wasn't doing his thing andthere was no chance of him ever
being successful.
Right Versus the man where,okay, I'm not clicking so much,
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I'm not getting the goosebumpsor whatever, but I know we're
going to have stability, we'regoing to have a great family,
we're going to buy a wonderfulhouse, we're going to live a
great future.
Which would you choose again?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I would choose the love.
I am a sucker for goosebumps.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Bam.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Not here, not here.
You say, you ain't got nogoosebumps.
But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
There's different levels of wealth.
I get what everybody's sayinglike yes, and it's absolutely
amazing to be in a situationwhere you don't have to worry
about anything right.
If I had to choose, like ifthose were my choices, I would
choose to live long with mypartner, who gives me goosebumps
every day and my heart stillflutters when I see him walk
into the room versus having ahouse that I'm like fuck, I'm
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home.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
This nigga's about to come in you know what.
I mean, I got a 12-bedroomhouse.
I want to hide from this guy,but I would choose love every
time.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Wow, okay, I love that, I mean stability.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I mean I get the whole financial stability and
you live comfortable.
But that's all empty stuff tome.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
To me it's just empty .
I'll just stay single and makemy own shit and make my own
money and buy my own shit.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
So for me, that's what it comes down to right.
Because we talked about likebeing at a point in your life
and I think that has to do withlike a certain age, once you hit
a certain age, but being at apoint in your life where you
have accomplished such and suchand such and it's like you want
some of that in your partnerbecause you want to be able to
grow together.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Right.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
You want to be able to be successful together, and
it is about being a team.
I 100% agree with that.
Yeah, and being, you know, apower couple.
I'm all about that.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
I'm with you, sister.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
That gives me goosebumps All right.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Boom, I'm in this I'm in this, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Okay, now I'm going to challenge you guys there.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
But wait one point before you say that.
Hold that thought, because Iwant to ask y'all one more
question.
So think of when you lighten afirecracker and you have this
light going to the firecracker.
Does love and someone askedthis question already does love
ever wear out?
Because if you have financialstability that lasts, we're
talking about forever.
Right, but can love actuallywear?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
out, but that's not guaranteed forever either, right
.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Somebody's leaving.
If somebody leaves, who'sgetting the money?
Speaker 5 (25:51):
We can't in half.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
See exactly.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Financial stability is never promised either right,
like it's there for and you canplan, but it's not always
guaranteed.
Yeah, just like love may neverbe guaranteed, so you could play
both sides of that.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Okay, yeah, I mean she said that.
She summed it up Like what doyou want to do?
Like, like, honestly, if youbroke and she leaves, what's she
taking?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Wait did it, versus like she's taking it.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
He's like what's half of zero?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Nothing from nothing leads you with nothing Negative
one, so you got to look at itthat way.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
If you want love.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
That's what he said before.
What happens with half ofnothing.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Half of nothing.
You ain't getting nothing.
We will part our ways.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Y'all making me rethink this whole thing and I
don't want to, but seriously yougot the money.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
At the end of the day , it's just money.
Like you happy yes, you happyyou could do things that you
want, but you got to, honestly,I mean.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
There's obviously benefits on the money side.
You know I'm not saying it'sterrible, right, but I think
that the other side outweighs,because you have to be with this
person.
You're planning to live untilyou're 90 or 100.
Like that love and that energy,like that is going to give you
longevity.
You know me stressing out beingwith someone you're not, you
(27:18):
don't love and like being upsetall the time, that's going to
shorten your lifespan so I'mgonna, I'm gonna throw this at
tyson as a as a father a man.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Check this out.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Your daughter, your beloved daughter.
We choose any one of them.
She comes to you and says Dad,I fell in love with this guy and
I'm going to throw a name atyou silently.
I'm not going to say the nameover there.
Okay, this is the guy she'sbringing to the table right.
(27:52):
And's this other guy who'swho's?
You know, courting her andeverything.
Nice young man, you know he's,he's going to school, he's gonna
get his phd, you know he, hemay not be the most attractive
dude, but he's, he's focused.
He won't, he's not gonna cheaton her, he's gonna treat her
good, but you know he's gonnahave stability in the long run.
What are you gonna say to yourbaby.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
First of all, the day that you threw at me, he got
all kinds of issues, but let'sjust talk about the broke issue.
That's different.
Why are you speaking from afather, right?
Right, because what we want ourchildren to go through and
learn and endure is totallydifferent than what we believe
in ourselves.
So, yes, I would like mydaughter to go with the doctor
(28:29):
who's going to be stable, who'sgoing to put her in a mansion,
but that's my choice.
But I would hope she would makethe choice.
That's, you know, part of herheart, you know.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
That's tough too.
Like I have a daughter but Idon't know if I would steer her
in the way of like being asituation where she is there for
finances.
You know what I'm saying.
Like you know, of coursethey're going to make their own
decision, but I can't look mybaby girl in the eye and be like
you need to find someone whohas a bunch of money and is
going to take care of you.
Like I want her to be happy andloved and be able to navigate
(29:01):
that system.
Right, I don't know I'll throwher some of mine like we want
our kids so you can be happy andin love.
Don't share that.
We want our kids to be happy.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
We want our kids to be happy, we want them to go to
college, we want them tograduate, we want them to be
doctors, we want them to belawyers.
But ultimately it's theirdecision, and I would hope she
would make decisions based offof what she feel in her heart
and not what I want, because,yeah, you're right, I do want
her to stay away from that guy,I want her to go with the doctor
, I want her to drive in theRange Rovers and I want her to
do all this other stuff.
But I know, realistically—there's a lot of stuff that
(29:35):
comes with that.
Right and realistically, she'sgoing to do what she's wanted.
Naturally, girls, yourdaughters's going to end up with
that person.
I'm not going to like it.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
And I hate to sound superficial about it, but the
reality is, and I've even hadgirls tell me, you know, if I
pulled up to their house in ahoopty, because at that point I
had a BMW and I was runningaround and I would come pick
them up and they'd be allcavalier about it and happy.
But if same person I pull up ina hoopty, you know, come pick
(30:09):
them up and they'd be all, likeyou know, cavalier about it and
happy.
But if same person I pull up ina hoopty, you know how would
you have felt about that?
And I've had women tell me Idon't know, I would have thought
twice about that.
Like you know, I want to seesuccess in the man that I'm with
Listen.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
my husband showed up to the first date with a
wrinkled ass T-shirt with a holein it and some fucking beat up
sneakers and he said take me orleave me.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
And what did you do?
And you married, aren't you?
Speaker 4 (30:35):
but listen, that's what I'm saying.
It was for love, obviously,because I was like okay, what?
Because you know?
So then, but you know, you getto know them and it's a
different, you know.
Then you start to worry lessabout those material things.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Did you see through that?
Did you see through that?
Speaker 4 (30:54):
what do you mean?
Like so you, okay, he showed up, he's still dressed the same
way right, but did you seethrough it?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
because sometimes you could see a person dressed like
a just say I would say quote,unquote, bummy, but you know
they got money.
Like you could look at a personand know that yeah, okay, you
look dirty, but you smell likeyou smell like uh uh georgio, uh
, vizente or some kind of umcologne, but you, I didn't know
that at first.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
I I mean at first, like he drove a pretty okay car.
It was like, you know, anInfiniti, but it wasn't like a
BMW or something like that whereyou could be like, oh, like you
know what I mean Because I hadmy own car.
You know what I mean.
So it wasn't that stuff did notimpress me.
You know, eventually, likelater on down the still you're
getting to know them, but firstimpression, like he didn't come
(31:37):
up with no BMW or like aMercedes, like he came with a
and I'd crack up and I'd talk tohim, we'd joke about it.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I'm like yo, you lucky you got a second date
because you came like you werewrinkled and Right.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
He's like you take me or you leave me, right I?
Speaker 5 (31:57):
can't do a damn hole in a shirt, don't you come out?
Listen, he's still got the damnshirt hanging in the closet
like it's an artifact, I'd belike can I put this away?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, he's like.
No, it's our first day shirt.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
It has a bigger hole.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
So okay, you say you can't do a hole in a shirt.
Because I don't go out likethat so when he takes you out,
you want him to look presentable.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
This is my theory okay we are out together.
We are a representation of eachother okay, I like that.
I'm not gonna come out herehaving you looking crazy, and I
would expect the same, thank youokay, I tried that so one of
the guys people still think I'ma prostitute, oh shit.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
So raunchy ass right they be.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
He's presentable in a way, but he's just not dressed
the way you want him to dress.
Because that happens a guy comeout, let's just say he comes
out with a a button up, with abutterfly collar, and he's just
looking like right, as long asyou're clean he's clean and as
long as your clothes don't looklike you just took them out of
the dumpster or the hamper,we're good.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Okay, like you know fashion sense and things like
that.
Like I'm not that shallow, youknow we can work on that over
time.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
However, You're not with some pointy shoes or some
corduroys.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Well, I wouldn't have talked to him in the first
place.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I was like you're changing an aspect of that
person, like right, right, Ididn't have the heart to do that
.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah, but the point is, you shouldn't be judging a
book by its cover, right, no,right.
That's essentially the point.
Right, you got to let them live.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
You can wear whatever you want.
As long as we get this datenight off, we good.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
You can wear whatever you want when you're not with
me.
Don't wear that hole in yourshirt when we're together.
Really, I don't know Seriouslymy God Ness you're starting to
sound really shallow.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
That's terrible, sorry, oops, jesus Christ, we
need the camera right now.
You need to have money.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
You got to dress right, you can't have no hole in
the shirt.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
It can't be wr.
You know what.
This is actually a topic that Iwant to talk about.
I think we need a whole hour.
A lot of women these days haveso high standards of what they
want yes, lord and they're notwilling to budge.
So I want to talk about itbecause I know several women
what's the point of you lookingat me?
For I know several women intheir upper 40s and they're
still single, but theirstandards are so high and
(34:21):
they're not willing to budge.
Why are you women not willingto budge on certain things?
Because they got a vibratorRight, hello.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Woo-hoo.
Okay, hey, I know girls likethat.
They're like well, shit, Cut tothe chase.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Well you're going to be 72 using a vibrator.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Hey, hey, hey.
If we gave grandma one, shewould use it.
You're right.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Your grandma.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, listen, I'll tell you about my grandmother.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Hey, Don't judge a book by its cover.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Like we said that's another story, that's another
story, that's another story.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
My grandmother's off the hook.
But, so but so a lot of grandma.
So is that a high standard toexpect a man to come out without
a hole in his shirt?
Speaker 1 (35:03):
No, no, no, no.
I'm just saying, I'm just.
That was just one of the thingsI was just talking about.
I know a lot of women that areat the age where you were like,
okay, you might want to bemarried now, but there's you.
Listen to the reasons why whena guy does this.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Well, unrealistic expectations?
No, it's realistic.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
But if you don't find it, if you get to a certain age
.
I think you need to lower yourstandards.
Some people are not willing tolower their standards.
I know one girl I hope shedoesn't listen to my podcast,
I'm not going to say her nameshe wants Say it.
Yeah right, I'll do it.
She wants a guy who has to bemuscular, he has to be
dark-skinned, he has to be tall.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Those are basics.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
No, it's not really basic because, you believe it or
not, you exed out a lot ofpeople, right, you exed out a
lot of people and she was notbudged.
He has to be a certain look.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
That's stupid because you can get into the gym and
get pumped up.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
But I guess her thing is, if I can't make it past the
first initial visit or themeeting, it's not going to
happen.
And she really to this day andshe's in like 44, 45, and she's
like well, I didn't find theright person yet See superficial
women.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
I run away from like that that's so superficial.
I run away from that Like fast,right Because.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Right, because I mean the looks is one thing, but
like how long this looks last,like come on, what's gonna
happen?
She would not budge you, youknow, you hinted, she would not
budge but she's not the onlyperson I know about.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Probably something else wrong with her.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Like, then, like she's probably very insecure.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yeah, I don't know, but and I know, I know another
female, another female who she'snot going to date you unless
you were, like an ex streetperson.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I mean I can yeah yeah, I've had women tell me
that too right, but, but youstill.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
but you cut out a lot of people, Still, you still.
You cut out a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Like you said, you gotta be in jail, you get
murdered.
Oh fuck that.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I don't think I want that.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Let's not go that far be the next victim.
Right exactly your house getraided.
You wonder why he'd be like ooh, I'll bail you out, baby so
that's gonna be, I think, thenext.
The next topic is next week isgonna be that I wanna talk to
you guys.
I wanna pick your brainsactually.
I wanna, actually, I want some,maybe some guests too also okay
(37:18):
, we can do that.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I want some um, maybe some uh guests too also okay,
um, we can do that.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
I want some guests and I want to.
I want to rotate them.
I want, we're going, we'regonna make it a little deeper.
We're never gonna make it alittle deeper.
So you guys do your research godeeper, do your research and I
really want to know what is.
What is the?
Why can't you change from yourstandards?
Because I think guys arewilling to change it guys, we
don't really have no standards.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
You don't have standards, we don't, we have
standards but, we know how to beflexible.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
We're flexible with our standards.
Do you have a pussy okay?
Speaker 5 (37:47):
check what's wrong with that.
That's a standard check.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
That's all you need.
Does she have a pussy?
Speaker 1 (37:54):
yes, okay, like does she have a pussy?
Yes, okay, good, you can't workwith that.
Check, check.
So you know.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
I think men have different standards when they're
younger.
I think young men have likereally stupid, unrealistic
standards and then as you getolder, you guys kind of, are a
little bit more flexible.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
What's that song we were singing?
Well, I was telling you thatguy who was like I don't have a
type Bad bitches is the onlything that I like, that's a
standard, that's a standard, allyou got to do is be a bad bitch
.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah, you know, I guess most people have standards
, but I guess we're going to saythat for next time.
I think that'd be a good topic.
I'm trying to bring a guest.
We could try to see if we couldget real deeper into it.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
I think it should be another female.
Let's equalize the number.
It could be another female.
It could be a couple femaleswhat we can do.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
We can rotate the mics, whatever we can get it
going and see what happens.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Bring them on.
Bring them on.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
So that's going to be the next topic.
We're going to see what's thedeal with standards.
Can standards be altered andyour standards?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Oh, I love it, love it.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
How's that I have the perfect person to call.
Oh well, I guess that's all Ihave to say Bye.
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