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January 16, 2025 62 mins

In this episode of Impossible Trade-Offs, Katie Harbath and Mike Rognlien discuss the evolution of corporate culture at Facebook, particularly focusing on race and gender bias training. They explore the significance of learning and development initiatives, the impact of recent changes at Meta, and the challenges of navigating political perspectives within the workplace. The conversation delves into the importance of DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) programs and the role of unconscious bias training in fostering a more inclusive corporate environment. In this conversation, Mike Rognlien discusses the evolution and importance of unconscious bias training, the challenges of navigating ideological diversity within DEI efforts, and the need for curiosity and respect in discussions about diversity and inclusion. He emphasizes the significance of creating inclusive environments and the ongoing necessity of DEI work, even as corporate attitudes shift. The conversation highlights the importance of emotional intelligence and the need for organizations to adapt their training approaches to foster meaningful dialogue and understanding.



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