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SPEAKER_03 (00:00):
Welcome to another episode of In Another World Pod
Season 2, episode 4.
It's me, Vaughn.
I'm here with Mo.
You already know.
It's your boy, Kaz.
It's your boy Kaz.
He came back.
Full in effect.
We out here moving and groovingvibing and grinding.

(00:21):
It has been a minute.
It has been a minute.
How you doing, brother?
I haven't seen you in Eons.
A millennium.
You know.

SPEAKER_06 (00:32):
Complicated, but good.
Doing all right.
Doing all right.
How y'all been seeing the clipsand everything?
Yeah, and what the episodes,been listening to them on
Spotify, so it's like.
Radio.
Radio.
I'm trying.

SPEAKER_07 (00:47):
Yeah, I appreciate it.
Yeah.
How y'all doing?
We hope y'all doing well.
Facts, facts, facts.
Weather's finally good.
Well, at least today.
It's not freezing like I was.

SPEAKER_03 (00:59):
Bro, y'all be people complaining.
I ain't gonna lie.
I think it's because I'm a I'm awinter baby, but I don't I don't
mind the cold.
The cold is you can always getwarm.
It's hard cooling down, gang.

SPEAKER_07 (01:10):
Nah.
I mean, most definitely, look,bro.
It's hard cool.
In the summer.
Just give me hoodie season.
I don't care about summer.
I never care about summer, bro.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19):
I respect that.
I respect that.

SPEAKER_06 (01:21):
I also don't like winter.
I always say this, but it's fun,bro.
Nah, I'm good.
I always say this, but in thesummer, you can't take more
clothes off.
In the winter, you can put moreclothes on.
Thank you.
So you can adjust yourtemperature.
Thank you.
Don't nobody want to see nobodynaked walking.
Thank you.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 (01:40):
Motherfuckers be outside acting real, real
outrageous.
It's already some realoutrageous, egregious bodies.
I'm just saying, it's already asmell.
Smelling like a hot sack ofnuts.

SPEAKER_06 (01:55):
Like I don't know why people fiend for stomach,
bro.
I just don't.

SPEAKER_07 (02:00):
Okay, stomach actually got, I mean, don't get
me wrong.

SPEAKER_03 (02:04):
I get it.

SPEAKER_07 (02:04):
Pros, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:06):
But it's about anything I feel like spring and
fall, I guess would be thosethat are.
That's what I'm saying.
It's hoodie season.

SPEAKER_07 (02:14):
You could just throw on something.
You just nice pop.

SPEAKER_03 (02:17):
Sometimes you might have a nice, you might have a
nice day where you could poppymaybe throw on some shorts.
An 80-degree day here or there,bro.
You know what I'm saying?
But hang on out.
Hoodie coat, layers, you feelme?
Like, you know what I mean?
I get swaggy and some layers,you know what I mean?
Like, fuck.

SPEAKER_07 (02:33):
I'll give I give one to that much.
You know what I mean?
You can get swaggy and somelayers.

SPEAKER_03 (02:38):
You know what I mean?
But um today, on today's firstagenda.
Actually, got a lot.
We actually do have a lot.
Damn.
Let's get to it.
It's gonna be fun, though.
It's gonna be fun.
Some fun quit bits at the end,too.
Um so I don't know if y'allheard.
Well, I know you had looked intoit a little bit, but um a

(03:00):
12-year-old girl has been on aum with went on a robbery spree
in Washington, D.C.
Now it was like um it wasn'tjust her, it was like it wasn't
just her smaller.
This is what this is this isthis is what makes it ill.
Is that like she was aringleader.

SPEAKER_06 (03:21):
Where the National Guard at, bro?

SPEAKER_07 (03:24):
No, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 (03:25):
She she was a ringleader to so a kid riding on
his bike.

SPEAKER_07 (03:33):
Was it a kid or was it like a nah?

SPEAKER_03 (03:35):
It was another kid.
Oh, they went, they were sayingit was kid on kid crime,
gangster.
Check it.
It's it's on a bike, nigga stoleanother bike in front of him.
The kid's wheat.
So you feel me?
Like your your your naturalreaction would be a hop off the
bike.

SPEAKER_04 (03:50):
So they started hopping the kid and stole his
bike.
Right?
Later on, they did it again.

SPEAKER_07 (03:59):
This was like a grown person.
Well, the first one was a kid.
Wait a minute, what?
The second one was a kid?

SPEAKER_03 (04:05):
No, the no the the first one was a kid, the second
one was a grown person.

SPEAKER_07 (04:08):
Yeah, because I saw that they um took the scooter
and then um like whatever theyhad up in the bag, right?
Wallet or money, whatever.
I think they also got a phonefrom that too, right?

SPEAKER_06 (04:18):
You know what this shit reminds me of?
You know how in England, back inthe day, and kids used to be
poor as hell, used to be runningaround like rats in the street,
just snatching people's pockets.
Like, all right.
Like one person throw the bag tothe other person, throw the bag
to the other person.
It's not community right now.

SPEAKER_03 (04:38):
But like what really truly makes this funny is the
fact that so I'm saying, youknow, news picked it up.
It was crazy.
Like, let me say a 12-year-oldgirl, you feel me?
Like, so they snatched her assup, you know what I mean?
Like, they don't know where theother the other two assailants
was at.
You know what I'm saying?
They haven't, you know what Imean?
Like, she a dog, she ain't gonnatell nothing for me like that.
She's gonna I'm saying she builtDiffie for her to be a street

(05:00):
creditor as at 12?
She been.
I wasn't thinking about that at12.
She's been in the movie.
What makes this crazy is thatthe news footage picked it up
from um for the area, and it waslike, yo, they speak to somebody
in in the neighborhood, and adude went on a joint.
I forgot everything he said.
But the one thing that Iremember that he said, Where's
her mother at?

(05:21):
Where's the parents at?
Where's the parents at?
What's going on?
Where's the family?
What's going on?
He was like like genuinelyconfused, like, yeah, I think I
remember too.

SPEAKER_07 (05:35):
Like his hands was on like his his hands are on
his, like, like, yo, what'sgoing on?

SPEAKER_03 (05:38):
Just like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, it is a kind of anunbelievable thing, bro.
It's not that it's unbelievablebecause you know, like uh, like
time and time again, I mean,like, like, you know, um,
motherfuckers been doing that ina sense, but it's just like to
have that type of likeorganization, like, like, like,
and and for the kids thatbecause you gotta, you know what

(06:01):
I'm saying?
It's something up here.
Like, you gotta really, you feelme, like you gotta really lock
in to want to do that, to wantto cause harm to somebody, you
know what I'm saying?
To want to rob somebody, and yougotta be in the predicament in
the situation where that'sfucked up enough for you to
really want to feel like yougotta do that.
You know what I'm saying?
Like now, sometimes, I mean, youmight have a kid that's like,
you know what I mean, like theyjust wanna be with the crowds
type shit.

(06:22):
I mean, you know what I mean,but like for her to be a
ringleader, you know what Imean, like that's something
different.
I ain't gonna lie.
They don't need to lock her upin jail, but she needs like
psych help, gangster.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, because that's somethingelse that's like that's you
know, I definitely gotta nip itin the butt right now.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you gotta nip that shitbutt, bro.
Little baby Tekad and shit, bro.

(06:43):
Yo.
Cause think about it, bro.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like you can't even, you can'teven, I mean, like kids walking,
you know what I mean?
Like you kids walking out, yougotta be c I gotta be cautious
of a little kid now.

SPEAKER_07 (06:53):
Please don't even produce another King Vaughn.

SPEAKER_03 (06:55):
I'd be cautious of a kid?
Gangster?

SPEAKER_07 (06:59):
Be real with you.

SPEAKER_06 (07:00):
I'd kidding.

SPEAKER_03 (07:00):
These kids for all ages.

SPEAKER_05 (07:03):
All racists.

SPEAKER_07 (07:04):
Oh no, no, no.
Nah, nah.
I definitely wanna get kicked.

SPEAKER_05 (07:09):
Go read, go, where's your scholastics?
Where's scholastics at?
What the scholastics at?
What happened to scholastics?

SPEAKER_07 (07:18):
That's sad.
What did happen?

SPEAKER_03 (07:20):
I mean, what the fuck is he these kids doing now?
I mean, if they want to go ondrills, like, like, like, like,
like, like, like, um, it's allkinds of questions.

SPEAKER_07 (07:29):
What I will say though, that video of the dude
saying all that on thatinterview definitely brought me
back to hide the kids, hide yourwives.

SPEAKER_03 (07:36):
Yo.

SPEAKER_07 (07:37):
Definitely brought me back.
That's how animated he was upover there giving that.
I was like, yeah, nah.

SPEAKER_06 (07:43):
That was a time in life.

SPEAKER_03 (07:45):
Yo, he is.
Another thing that's happening,so we all know that um the
streaming, everybody'sstreaming.
Streaming is like taking over.
You know what I mean?
It's bread in it.
I mean, streamers are the newcelebrities.
Streamers are the newcelebrities.
And crazy.
Crazy that you had to say.
It's annoying, but in a sense,though, it's fire because it

(08:08):
opens a different level.
Now you don't have to, I'msaying, like that whole A-less,
B-less celebrity.
Like I'm saying how niggas wasjudging shit, it's different
now.
Now it wasn't based off like theTV shows that she was doing or
the movies that she was doing.
It's like the influence that youbring.

unknown (08:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (08:23):
You know what I'm saying?
Like, so it's good things withthat and there's bad things.
We have all of those type ofexamples for the neons, for the
for the cosinats, for thespeeds.
We have all of those fuckingexamples, right?
A new trend is happening, whichis something that, like, you
know what I'm saying, majorityof them do is the IRL streaming,

(08:44):
right?
Not wrong with IRL streaming toa degree.
If you have somebody that'smotherfucking the cameraman, you
know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06 (08:53):
Like, and if you got sense.

SPEAKER_03 (08:55):
And if you got sense.

SPEAKER_06 (08:56):
You definitely gotta have some sense.
And some respect.
It's real crazy.
I forgot the dude's name, but Ithink I think uh I don't know
what you you trying to get.
You talking about the one thatwas on a dry rack?
Nah, the dude that was over inum China or Korea.
Oh, you talk about Somali man.
Yeah, Chinese Somali orsomething like that.

(09:19):
Something like that.
Yeah, like a lot of that's beenhappening lately.
I think I know what you mean,bro.

SPEAKER_03 (09:22):
Nah.

SPEAKER_06 (09:23):
So what was you talking about?

SPEAKER_07 (09:25):
Yeah.
Is um see this is this is howyou know it's a problem where
there's like way too manyinstances where somebody can
pull up and that's like, so youtalk about that other person?
No, no, that other guy.
No, no, no, no.
See, this is an issue.

SPEAKER_03 (09:36):
Yeah, this is this is an issue.
There's nothing wrong withpeople streaming, but it's very
important to I feel likedefinitely have a cameraman,
have somebody that's in aposition to like do that for you
because of the fact that whatjust happened in the past um now
it's uh two weeks, but in thepast two weeks, it's been two
fatal car accidents wherestreamers have been streaming

(09:57):
while they're driving.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
You know how you have the havethe joint put up in your window,
you streaming while you driving.
So now you nah nah, not in yourhands.
So you still got both thejoints, but now you know what
I'm saying?
You know, they always looking atchat.
You looking at chat, you lookingat chat.
Yo, chat, what you said, chat?
What you said, chat?
Wheat.
First person, somebody somebodyhit the person, another person,

(10:18):
another person had uh got into acar accident and killed other
people and killed other people.

SPEAKER_07 (10:22):
Crazy.
I didn't hear about those, dude.

SPEAKER_03 (10:28):
My question is, should there be a restriction on
the streaming platforms as faras the mobility, like as far as
like your geo like a geo, thegeo restriction, like your
geolocation.
You know what I'm saying?
Like a lot of these apps trackyou with geolocation, right?
So, but a lot of them, like likefor for instance, Waze or

(10:48):
whatever tracks your um yourspeed, or whatever lets you
know, like if you're going overthe speed.
So would it be so something beimplicated to where it's like a
safety feature for not only thethe streamer, but for those
around the streamer?

SPEAKER_07 (11:04):
A lot of these platforms, I'm gonna just say it
right now, a lot of theseplatforms don't hold up their
streamers, especially if it's abig streamer.
They don't they don't hold likethey don't hold them accountable
for a lot of the shit.
Like you see it all the time,whereas like you got some people
that was kicking it over atTwitch or whatever, then like
they trying to like get thatvolatile like group of people

(11:28):
who like, you know, just doingshit to like just be volatile or
whatever the case.
Obviously, it doesn't fly overon one platform, so they go run
over to like kick.
They run over to like anotherplatform where it's like less
regulations and whatever, sothey can still do like their
fuck shit.
Uh kick don't usually like it.
I guess it has to be likesomething really big.
And I think now recently they'retrying to like put little

(11:50):
restrictions and stuff on it,though.

SPEAKER_03 (11:51):
But the point is, is like But then look look look at
who's behind Kick though.

SPEAKER_07 (11:55):
Oh yeah, nah, 1000%.
At the end of the day, it'sbehind kick.
At the end of the day, even withTwitch, they don't usually care
enough because at the end of theday, a lot of these people
generate them a lot of wealth.
So it's just like probably theywould just give them like a
little slap on the wrist, likebe like, all right, 30-day
suspension type shit.
Like, nah.
A lot of, let's be real,streaming as a whole, especially

(12:18):
with the whole with the wholestate of like how everything is
in your face.
That's I think another reasonwhy streaming and stuff like
that is um the next wave or likethe big the next big thing, is
because it's not like it's ashow or anything like this.
It's like people coming up onair or online to stream or
whatever, so you instantly getin that.
And whatever they're doing,whether they're playing or
they're talking or whatever, thecat whatever the case, that's

(12:40):
your entertainment right therethat you're always constantly
getting.
So a lot, which is very big inthis time and age, is this
parasocial relationship thatlike people would have with
streamers and whatnot.
And then people like streamersor whatever, trying to do,
trying to be big or trying tolike find instant ways to be big
or be like in a thing.
What a lot of them tend to do,do some controversial shit or

(13:03):
say something controversial sothat way they can get like those
eyes and views because all typeof um, what was it?
What's the saying now they say?
Like all type is there's like nosuch thing as bad publicity.
All publicity is not.
All publicity, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (13:18):
All publicity is good publicity, it's no bad
publicity.

SPEAKER_07 (13:20):
Yeah.
So it's like, it's this weirdtrend where we got like these
people over here doing all thisshit and they're not being
reprimanded or whatever.
Like they gotta, truth be told,a lot of them gotta get come
down heavy on or whatever.
You inciting violence andwhatever or stuff like this.
You driving while sh while shdoing streams, reading chat and

(13:40):
stuff, you already look, youalready know you can't be doing
that.
You already know that shit'sbad.

SPEAKER_03 (13:45):
So another example.

SPEAKER_07 (13:45):
That's also very causing this issues.
There was like, I forgot thisdude.
This is what I'm saying.
Like, the fact that you can goback and you can say, like, oh,
all these other differentinstances with different people,
mind you, that's a problem.
That's that's telling somethingright there.
There was like this dude.
Nobody got um, nobody died, andI forgot his name.
And he's always do these typesof um contents where he's like

(14:08):
just wilding or like pranks andshit.
Um he had his cameraman orwhatever.
He was like driving on umInterstate and he was obviously
going over the speed limit onlike one of the sports cars.
He crashed the car, he'sworrying about the car and
whatnot.
But then like his friend, whowas like um the cameraman, he

(14:29):
ends up getting injured, andhe's like on his ass, but like
saying, like, oh, like why youknow why you did blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah.
Why you did this, like you youyou crashed my car and shit like
this, or whatever.
And it's like he's the granted,his friend is like the only one
who was injured and stuff, likenobody lost their life though,
but like, come on now.
And he's and that dude, I can'tlike I said, forgetting his name

(14:51):
doesn't even really matterbecause he always does shit like
this.
It's like, nah, it's a problem.
Why he still get to be platform?
A lot of these, um, a lot ofthese services should be
defunding these people who dothis stuff, who brings all this
negativity onto these platforms.
They should be defunded.
There there should be no waythat like they get like

(15:14):
suspended for um for like Xamount of days.
Could still collect thepaycheck, mind you.
Because that's also anotherthing, too, is that like it's
not just one channel that theyprobably would have, they
probably have like various otherdifferent channels so they could
generate income differently,whatever.
So it's like I don't know, y'ally'all gonna have to uh come
heavy on a lot of those peoplebecause it's it's crazy how

(15:37):
frequent it is where you getthese instances.

SPEAKER_06 (15:41):
Let me guess the the dudes who did the the two the
two accidents, young people.

SPEAKER_03 (15:47):
No, it's no not young people, no like like late
30s, I believe.
Like it wasn't even no it'scrazy people just with no common
sense.

SPEAKER_06 (16:01):
Like uh I I agree with what you're saying.
A lot of these people do need toget deplatformed because they do
promote a lot of crap, but Idon't I don't think that's ever
gonna happen.
Because time and time again,they prove that they be in the
these streaming companies.
They prove they don't care aboutthe people streaming on their
platform.

SPEAKER_00 (16:21):
No.

SPEAKER_06 (16:22):
Like, look at uh what's her name?
Now Valkyrie.
Uh she's like in that littlestreaming sect with Valkyrae,
but she was at TwitchCon theother day.
Dude ran up on stage, kissed.

SPEAKER_07 (16:34):
Oh, yeah.
Umiru.
Imiru, yeah.
She was having like um a meetand greet on TwitchCon.

SPEAKER_06 (16:40):
Yeah, a mandatory meet and greet that's part of
her contract.
She's supposed to have securitythere and everything.
Her previous security got firedbecause he put hands on like he
didn't even put hands onsomebody, he moved somebody who
was trying to go at her.
And this time around, she had tobe able to get it.
So they didn't want thatsecurity.
And then this dude just ran upon stage for free, ran up,
kissed her, and then got takenout of took taken out of the

(17:03):
joint uh obligatorily, and thengot a 30-day Twitch ban.
Like, and then the dude, the thethe CEO of Twitch goes on an
interview and is talking about,oh, if Val if Emeru had
moderated her chat, probablystuff like this wouldn't happen.
Impliant.
You see what I'm saying?
They don't care about they don'tcare about their people.

(17:26):
So I don't think there's evergonna be an instance where they
do that.
Because it's not an easy thing.
Like back in the day growing up,I remember, I can't remember the
names of the app, but there's acouple of apps that I would use
while I was on the train.
And while I was on the train,the train was running over the
tracks, and I couldn't use theapps because I was physically

(17:46):
moving too fast.
You feel me?
So say it's not impossible, butI don't think they're ever gonna
do that.
Because at the end of the day, Idon't think they care about the
creators.
I think they just care aboutwhat they bring in, and that's
just the cash.
So, and they're never gonna holdthese people accountable.
They're really not.
Nah.
Look at the stuff that happenson the platforms.

SPEAKER_03 (18:08):
Now, yeah, the pranks and all of that, that
shit is like uh uh egregious tome.
You know what I'm saying?
A lot of what thesemotherfuckers be doing on the
street.
A lot of stuff's gonna be like,family.
No, no, my bad.
That shit not funny, bro.

SPEAKER_06 (18:18):
Some dudes shooting fireworks at kids overseas.
I saw it on uh on YouTube theother day, and then they the the
locals came up like, yo, youshot fireworks at the kids.
Oh, they shot at us first.
Like, what do you mean the kidsshot at you first?
They're children, you're agrown-ass man.
You're not even in your homecountry.
Why are you firing fireworksback at the kids?

(18:40):
I tell you, man.
Like, it's just little stupidstuff like that, bro.
And creators think it's coolbecause they get the comments
and the people in their chatslaughing, bro.
But it's really messed up, dog.
It's just messed up.
Yep.

SPEAKER_07 (18:54):
Just like you were saying earlier, uh, with Johnny
Somali.
Dude is literally over thereoverseas just making an ass out
of himself.
He's still over there?
He's stuck over there, eh?
Yeah, he's still over therebecause they um they got him for
the charges.
They locked him up, didn't they?
They're trying to lock him upwith it.
I hope they lock him up.
Right now they but they are theyhave been adding some more
charges on his ass.

(19:15):
I hope they lock him up.
I hope they all stick becausefuck that dude.
On some real.

SPEAKER_06 (19:18):
Some people need to be made an example of, bro.
No, nothing's gonna change untilyou make an example of somebody.

SPEAKER_07 (19:25):
Speaking of countries and whatnot, Japan,
they're having um, well, acouple, it's not it's not a lot
of um publishers, band dynamcoand whatnot, but not even just
them.
Um whatcha call it?
A lot of them are against AIbeing um a lot of their material

(19:48):
being taught AI.
So it's causing up a huge stuff.
We already know.
A lot of people don't care forAI.
AI is unfortunately here.
And with that, you know, not toomany people are very ecstatic
with AI.
Because again, with the wholestuff of taking jobs and

(20:09):
whatnot.
Anyway, um, a lot of Japanesepublishers are very against this
um new AI, um Sora 2.0 or SOR 2.
They're um, and for good reason,they don't want their um
content, they don't want whetherthe games and stuff like that or
an animation, because um acouple of animation studios were

(20:30):
also against it.
I've can't I don't have the oneson to me right now though, but
there's just been this whole bigtalk about um AI training and
product and IPs and materialsand whatnot that's being taught
that.
Very against it.

SPEAKER_06 (20:48):
Was it Toei and Dragon Ball that like uh I think
they put out a copyright on Soradoing like uh Toy was um Toy was
was Toy was one of them.
I forgot what it was.
I don't know if it was a bridge,but I do know it was about like

(21:09):
not Dragon Ball a bridgespecifically, but something in
that realm where they were usingthe likeness of the characters,
and it wasn't like direct likestealing of the material, but
they shut it down immediately,bro.
Yeah, like they don't playstraight to court and say, nah,

(21:31):
Joe.

SPEAKER_07 (21:31):
No, they don't play o over there in Japanese when it
comes to uh IPs and stuff likethat.
They're very look, they're verytight about it.

SPEAKER_06 (21:37):
I don't hate it.
I really don't, because uh ithas a place.
I think there I think there's alot of misunderstandings when it
comes to artificialintelligence.
And I think there's a lot ofbenefits that can come from it
if it's implemented properly.

SPEAKER_07 (21:55):
And so everything if it's implemented properly.

SPEAKER_06 (21:58):
I think it's what's been happening now is a symptom
of just general the issue, oneof the issues with society and
it's accessibility.
Like too many people got theirhands on AI and there's too many
people with being able to likeutilize it in unique ways.
There needs to be some kind ofregulation because artificial

(22:20):
intelligence is extremelydangerous.
Yeah, like it's extremelydangerous.
Like you got the president ofthe United States posting AI
videos as propaganda to go atthe other political party.
Like, why is that okay?
Why are you allowed to useartificial intelligence in any
kind of government situationthat's linked to voting, uh

(22:43):
platforming, any of that?
You can create fake content,nobody will be the wiser, and
people just gotta eat it up.
And the way people's minds areset up, they see it on social
media, and that's just how itis.

SPEAKER_07 (22:55):
Yeah, for some reason.

SPEAKER_06 (22:56):
You feel me?
Like there needs to be it's AIitself is not inherently bad.
What is bad is how it's beingused and the lack of regulation.
And I think this is a big stepbecause with Japan going and
taking that step to you toexclude AI from their
intellectual properties andtrying to make them still retain

(23:17):
that ownership, it shows thatthere's ways to regulate it
without destroying it.
It's not like they're not gonnause AI in Japan.
Not like they're not gonna useAI to create content.
They can probably use AI to makeoriginal content.
I mean But it's the copying.
Yeah.
It's the reckless use.
That's the part that gets AImucked up.

SPEAKER_07 (23:39):
AI already gets used in a lot of projects.
When it's like whether it's forgaming, whether it's to just
make some backgrounds realquickly, or whether it's like
same thing for animation, again,just to quickly get some
backgrounds and stuff.
Not obviously for the whole bigcreating everything, like
creating a whole thing with AI,but like you said, it's a tool

(24:03):
and it can be used well, it canbe used for good for very well.
But like you said, how quicklyaccessible it is and with a lack
of regulations on it, it canalso be used very badly, which
it has been.
And we already see it when it iswith when it comes to artists
and whatnot, how quickly it justfalls.

(24:26):
Like you said, just with thepolitical um with politicals,
it's insane.
So definitely need to fight forthose regulations for it because
it's only gonna just make thingsworse.
It's only gonna get worse.
I mean, like, AI is not gonnaPandora's box is open, so it's
not as if like it's gonnamiraculously stop and vanish.
But you see how when you seethose videos or like those,

(24:49):
yeah, like videos on Facebook orwhatever, mad people in the
comments be falling for it.
None the wiser.
Can you imagine how it's gonnabe like a year from now?
It's gonna be very hard to telllike what's AI and what's not.
And how, and if they keep in,yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (25:04):
I'm not a fan of AI and the government, but I'm a
fan of AI Sasquatch.
AI Sasquatch is fine.
It's stupid.
AI Sasquatch is my guy.
I know y'all know who I'mtalking about, bro.
Running through woods of hisacid trick.
That's my guy.

SPEAKER_07 (25:25):
Back with Japan, though.
I have how many of y'all areaware of the Nintendo patent
that Nintendo was trying to pushon out?
The Power World thing?
Well, yeah.
Power Power calls it.

SPEAKER_03 (25:37):
They've been doing that, right?
That's been going through.

SPEAKER_07 (25:39):
Yeah, that's been been a thing for a minute right
now.
But the recent update with thepatent, and for those who are
unaware of what the patent is,it's pretty much um, I got you
right now.
The patent was for the capturemechanic in their games.
So they're trying to patent likethat whole ass mechanic of
capturing the creature, like howthe creature is capturing,

(26:02):
throwing an object and whateverat the creature.
So recently in Japan, their um,whatchall, the Jap the Japanese
patent office, they denied theclaim.
They said you can't have that.
Why?
Because the mechanic itself, andthis is like what they say,
mechanic itself lacks a littlebit of originality because it
can be seen in several othergames.

(26:24):
And those games like Ark,Survival Evolved, Monster Hunter
4, and even Pokemon Go.
That's kind of crazy that yourown thing ended up being used
against you.
So yeah, they just they deniedit.
And obviously, with the wholelawsuit going on with Power
World and whatnot, it's youknow, creating stuff, it's

(26:47):
creating a whole bunch ofheadaches up over there, though.
But yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (26:51):
That saltiness.

SPEAKER_07 (26:53):
I know Nintendo is living with that.

SPEAKER_06 (26:54):
That's saltiness.
That saltiness, bro.
They went after Power World sohard, bro.

SPEAKER_07 (26:59):
They did, and then it was like, you know what?
We're just gonna we're gonnacontrol a monopoly on this.
No more, no more capturemechanics.
And then they just said, youknow what?

SPEAKER_06 (27:08):
Let's be real, they're bullies, bro.
Like for real.
Oh no, and they're absolutebullies.

SPEAKER_07 (27:12):
I would still say this Nintendo owns a person.

SPEAKER_06 (27:14):
The bullies lost.

SPEAKER_07 (27:16):
Nintendo owns a man.
Y'all think I'm joking.
What was his name?
Bowser something?
Doug Bowser, whatever Bowser,all I know is that his ass is
owing Nintendo literally for hisentire life.
14, what was it?
Four million?
It's ridiculous.
He they own a person.

(27:36):
Crazy.
I'm glad they got what theydeserve.
I believe.
Yeah.
Nah, trying to try trying tomake a claim over the patent for
capturing is is wild.
Just so you can spite PowerWorld and whatever other
whatever other um freakingcompetition that we have.

SPEAKER_03 (27:54):
But the idea of something being captured is
dumb.
Like what I'm saying, like likeyou can't, like, you can't
capture, yeah, you can't patentlike a a mechanic.
You can't patent a word, nigga.
To capture something, you feelme?

SPEAKER_07 (28:06):
Like, not the word, like the whole ass mechanic.

SPEAKER_03 (28:09):
I get that.
But to to to define, to definecapture, fair enough, and to and
to visually imagine capture,what the fuck do you imagine?
Nigga getting captured andencapsulated in some shit.
What the fuck?

SPEAKER_06 (28:24):
Look, that's that was their play, bro.
That was yeah, that's what theydid.
What the fuck?
That's why everybody was onPower World side.
Because like, it's a new game,fun, original.
You get to shoot guns and playsome like uh some fun monster
capturing game.
Like, like why you why you mad,bro?
It's not even like it's a tripleA game.

SPEAKER_07 (28:44):
Power is more akin to arc than it is to Pokemon.
Yeah.
The creatures obviously playslike, you know, cadence up to
Pokemon, though, but it's it'snot even like a Pokemon-like
game.
It's more like an arc game.
It's a survival game.

SPEAKER_03 (28:57):
Come on.
They glitched up.

SPEAKER_07 (28:58):
It's whatever, though.

SPEAKER_06 (28:59):
They glitched up.
To me, all this screams to me isNintendo is completely afraid of
competition.
They don't want no kind ofcompetition because it lets them
coast and do the bare minimum.

SPEAKER_03 (29:13):
They had their time to do that.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (29:14):
That was the early 2000s.

SPEAKER_03 (29:16):
They had they couldn't do that.

SPEAKER_07 (29:17):
They cook with Mario, though.
Mario and well, that Donkey Gonggame.
I ain't played it because Iain't getting no Switch 2.
I don't care if they cook, bro.
They're coasting.
Oh no, 1000%.

SPEAKER_06 (29:28):
They've been coasting for a hot minute, bro.
Look how long ago the Switch theReads, bro.
Look how long it took for themto release a Switch 2, bro.
How many different versions,iterations, and improvements
have the Steam Deck made?
Exactly.
Nintendo's been coasting.
Steam Deck is goaded.
Pokemon, the Goden machine.
Especially's been coasting.

(29:48):
And we've had this discussion.
Look, man.
Bad times.
You know I love Pokemon.

SPEAKER_07 (29:52):
I'm not gonna get on it.
I'm not gonna get on it.
You know I love Pokemon, bro.
But them niggas is coasting.
1000%.
Stop coasting.
Coasting.
Start innovating.
Can't tell that's a Pokemon.
I'm not gonna get into thatthough.
You said um what was it?
P PlayStation B and Xbox on umoutsold consoles.

(30:15):
Oh yeah.
I don't even think it was adebate to be real.

SPEAKER_03 (30:18):
Nah, but like, but like but like like the P5.
What makes it funny is that theP5, just the P5, has outsold
every fucking Xbox console.
Ever?
Ever.
No, no.

SPEAKER_07 (30:33):
Was it um I think no no?
They just sacking it up againstlike the new shit that they got,
the Series X and whatnot.

SPEAKER_03 (30:39):
No, no, no.

SPEAKER_07 (30:40):
Oh no, even every Xbox.
Even 360?

SPEAKER_06 (30:43):
Even 360.
Damn.
To be fair though, consolegameplay wasn't that lit back
then.
It really got crazy.
Like crazy, crazy, like the P4.

SPEAKER_07 (30:54):
36?
Well, no.
360 is P3.
360, P3 P3 ever.
Yeah.
Nah, nah.
That was a crack era for games.

SPEAKER_03 (31:02):
Mass shit was coming out.
That was a lot of shit.

SPEAKER_07 (31:04):
That was a great era.
That was a crack era.

SPEAKER_03 (31:06):
Mass was coming out.

SPEAKER_06 (31:07):
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
Is that when Xbox started makingconsoles?

unknown (31:10):
No.

SPEAKER_06 (31:11):
P2.
Xbox was a good thing.
No, they had like Xbox, yeah.
Damn, dawg.
I feel old.
For a fact.
It was a fact.

SPEAKER_03 (31:23):
That was the last year for Game Sam.

SPEAKER_06 (31:27):
That was when they were ahead of PlayStation.
Like they would that was theconsole everybody wanted right
then, bro.
Nobody was really like messingwith like PS PS2.
It was for the Xbox.
And then the PS3 came out.
And then they kind of just PS2had had this stuff, though.

SPEAKER_07 (31:45):
PS2 was a go, then.

SPEAKER_06 (31:52):
You talking about the loaded and the long ass
loaded?
The flip of a startup, man.

SPEAKER_05 (31:57):
Is it working?
Is it working?

SPEAKER_03 (32:00):
Even, even, even, even, even, is it gonna read the
disc?
Is it gonna read it this time?
Is it the Tony logo?
The white background, and youjust sitting there like, oh, oh,
oh, is it um or fucking the eventhe yo, even the saving the
memory card saving?
Like, yo, I gotta know I gotta,damn, I gotta, I gotta dub this
game fucking.
Okay with the memory card.

SPEAKER_06 (32:21):
Yo, you know what clapped up Xbox?
The Red Rings.
Oh, yeah, not the Red Rings.
That's annoying.
That clapped up Xbox.

SPEAKER_07 (32:30):
I gotta get a whole has new Xbox?
Because no.

SPEAKER_06 (32:33):
I remember we had an Xbox in a crib, and ours got the
red ring.
We never got another Xbox.
Swear to God, we never gotanother Xbox.
We went straight to PlayStation3, PlayStation 4, and then I got
a PlayStation 5.
Never got another Xbox.
Never.

SPEAKER_07 (32:47):
Yeah, nah.
That's red.

SPEAKER_03 (32:50):
The fact that you call that, but the P3 got had
like the green screen or someshit like that.
Because that shit happened to myP3 and I had to send my shit
back.
See, I don't even know aboutthat.
But the Red Ring in the city.
I ain't even.
No, no.
No, but that was a majoritything, though.
But now yeah.
PlayStation PS5 specifically gotit.
That's why I'm like, like, like,I feel like, how do y'all what
do y'all think about like thePS6 coming?

(33:11):
Like the talk to the.
I think niggas should just chillwith the P5 for some.
I'm gonna be real.
Let's enjoy the P5.
Y'all just came up the pro.

SPEAKER_07 (33:18):
Not enough games have dropped out on a PS5 for
them to be talking about a PS6.
I don't think so.
They need to need to chill onrelax.
I don't need no PS6.
Even honestly, if they do drop aPS6, I'm gonna be real.
I ain't gonna like rush to getit.
I'm gonna just coax on a P5.

SPEAKER_06 (33:34):
Actually, we got what's gonna kill them a little
bit.

SPEAKER_03 (33:36):
This is what uh this is what's gonna get us into our
next topic.
You talk about the gay box?

SPEAKER_06 (33:42):
Sinister.

SPEAKER_07 (33:44):
You talk about the gay box?
You about to float away again,bro?
Steam, nah.
No, they now they're cookingover there.
They cooking.

SPEAKER_03 (33:57):
Got some theme.
Got some fi cooking up.
And the fi is absolutelyabsolutely crazy.
Yo.
They coming out with their ownconsole.

(34:19):
That's every fucking console.
The console can sit there andtake any the controllers is is
is is is lackluster.
But it looks crazy.
I gotta feel it in my hands, butI think it's gonna be good.
Any other controller, an Xbox, aP5, you can pair it whichever

(34:42):
way you want to.
You can play Steam exclusives.
And when I heard Steamexclusives, I'm like, Steam?
I mean, is Ninkas is alreadyplanning on rolling out some
more heat.

SPEAKER_07 (34:57):
Oh, so you don't know about Steam.

SPEAKER_03 (35:00):
Nah, I'm not a Steam user.
I'm not a full Steam user.
So boom.

SPEAKER_07 (35:04):
There's I had a ton of games on the Steam.

SPEAKER_03 (35:06):
Okay.

SPEAKER_07 (35:06):
Games that you will never even hear about, honestly,
because it's PC, Steam, right?
A whole bunch of shit.
They also get like, obviously,you know, the AAA stuff that
you'll get from PlayStation.
Even some of the PlayStationgames will be dropping on Steam.
Granted, you probably gotta waitlike maybe five, five years
before they like put it on overthere, though.
But fact is, PlayStation gameswill be be moved up on Steam.

(35:30):
And Xbox games, since it'salready like computer-based,
Xbox trying to be computer, theyalready got mad games.
So Steam already got like thatbag.
Only games that they don't gotis Nintendo games.
But we already know Nintendoain't trying to like fuck
Nintendo.
No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 (35:46):
I mean these niggas been pricing, these niggas been
pricing, these niggas beenpricing the games the same price
for all these years.
I gotta still buy the old assfucking Mario Kart.
For fucking, for fucking forfucking the same price as a new
game, y'all bugging out.
Put this count.
Y'all bugging out.
Put discount.
Y'all bugging the fuck out.
But this ain't about them,though.

SPEAKER_06 (36:04):
This is a victim.
Not about them.
You see, this is from circa1999.
This Nintendo 64 cartridge,$70.
How about that?
No, but see the gold Zeldacasing?

SPEAKER_07 (36:20):
The Valve stuff that they announced though is crazy.
Not only you got the um theSteam Box, is what they're
calling it, which plays all likethe whole Steam library.

SPEAKER_06 (36:28):
Wait, it's all they're calling it the Steam
Valve?

SPEAKER_07 (36:31):
No, the Steam Box.

SPEAKER_06 (36:33):
I was scared, bro, because that'd be a fire name.

SPEAKER_07 (36:36):
Valve is the Valve's a studio.

SPEAKER_06 (36:39):
Oh.
Steam Valve, though, bro.
Be crazy.
It will be crazy.
It's a fire name, bro.

SPEAKER_07 (36:45):
But it also acts as a PC.
Steam runs on Linux.
Steam Deck is already good, soyou they're already going to
kill it with the box.
Can fit up with any monitor andstuff like that.
You can turn literally your homeset into a PC just with that
box.
Just on that, on a desktop,fucking around with that.

(37:06):
Not only that, they also gotlike the controller, like we
spoke of.
You could use the controller andeverything.
It's a crazy design, but like Isaid, I gotta see how it feels
in my hand.
Because it could be elite.

SPEAKER_00 (37:16):
Mm-hmm.
True.

SPEAKER_07 (37:17):
I give them that.
It's definitely a huge upgradeover like that old, that old
design that they had.
Trash.
And then they've released, well,they also brought up to the um
the VR headset, which is alsokind of crazy because they
should just have in it whereit's like it's real integrated
and it's kind of like um, Idon't know if you guys know, um

(37:39):
Parsecs, where it's like youit's um it's a thing where you
can kind of like play a localgame as a um inter as an
internet game, you know, like asa game that has um online
compatibility.
That's like one of the greatestthings with Parsec.
And it runs like it runs thegame pretty um seamless.
It's kind of like that too,where on the for the um for the

(38:03):
VR thing, not only is you wouldyou have your whole your whole
collection or those games thatare like compatible with it, you
would have those games likeright up on your face on a
screen.
So it's supposedly not supposedto be as heavy as a VR, like
your usual VRs, because uh howthey got it designed makes it
very streamlined.
So a whole lot of that otherstuff is kind of like taken out

(38:26):
now.
Because it's kind of like beingstreamed essentially to the um
to the goggles.
We're so close.
It's oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (38:34):
We're so close.

SPEAKER_07 (38:35):
Sword art territory.
All right.
Any other Shingralov territory,because I ain't talking about no
sword art.
I respect it.
But yes, nah, it's fire.
They got like those three thingscoming on out, and they supposed
to be like slated for 2026.
I don't think they gave like anexact time if it was like early
2026 or later.
Point is 2026.
I'm gonna be real.

(38:56):
This gonna be a this this righthere is gonna be a changeup that
a lot of console players isgonna switch over to.
Because the console players'main thing is like, oh, I don't
want to deal with like having tobuild PC or blah blah blah with
PCs.
Steam is ridiculous.
They have nothing but sales formad games.
This explains why mad publishersbe always have sales.

SPEAKER_06 (39:17):
It's probably probably because Steam will
actually make you broke becauseof all the sales.
It's probably why you're hearingabout the PS6, because they
heard this shit coming out.
Yeah.
To be honest, to be honest,Nintendo already.
I don't mind it.
Because I feel like at thispoint, why we doing this?
Like for real.
I just won't play video games.

(39:37):
If you're gonna make a videogame and you're gonna make it
available on one console andyou're gonna put it on the other
one anyway, why we doing this?

SPEAKER_00 (39:44):
Like for real?

SPEAKER_06 (39:46):
Can we just come together?
I know it's never gonna be thechoice made to destroy a
company.
Sony's a massive company, theywould have to basically sell off
their gaming division, but it'snot the first time.
They don't even gotta bebankrupt.
Sony's a massive company, theygot entertainment they could
fall back on.
Yeah, yeah.
They got other TVs, all thatstuff.

(40:07):
They don't need gaming per se.
And with gaming takes startingto like drop off from COVID
levels, sell.
Just sell.
Just sell.
Let's all unify on one console.
I'm crying.

SPEAKER_07 (40:23):
Steam Val.

SPEAKER_06 (40:28):
I'm just I mean Nintendo's never gonna fold,
though.

SPEAKER_07 (40:32):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (40:33):
They're never gonna fold.
They're probably gonna sue them.

SPEAKER_02 (40:35):
Like guys are creative.
That's Nintendo's monopoly.

SPEAKER_07 (40:38):
That's Nintendo's thing.
How dare you?
We sue you.
It definitely makes sure theytake everything.
That's crazy.
Foolishness, bro.
That's it.
On some other things, though.
I think I'm gonna get that.
Oh, yeah, most definitely.
I'm telling you, that's I don'tregret the Steam deck.
I'm not I'd already know this isgonna be a good ass investment.

(41:00):
So we got a couple of things.
One Piece is seasonal.
I know you hype for that.

SPEAKER_06 (41:07):
I mean, I'm indifferent.
I don't really care that much.

SPEAKER_07 (41:09):
I know a lot of One Piece fans was very upset about
that.
People grind a lot.
It's like it's it's it'swhatever, man.
Like, come on now.
You was already, it wastechnically already seasonal
with all the breaks that it wasgetting between then.
So like you're already dope ifit's seasonal, you would live.
Just rock.

SPEAKER_05 (41:24):
You get two episodes, and then you're also
talking a chopper.

SPEAKER_07 (41:27):
You also want to get the One Piece.
Come on, you know both of themare gonna be running in tandem
back to back.
So, like, relax.
Y'all guys eating good.
I can I can relax, huh?
We also got some news though.
This is very recent.
Warner Brothers and Webtoons aretalk of having a collaboration.
Yes.

(41:48):
Ten titles was announced thatthey are going to adapt and get
their own anime treatment.
Um they didn't, I don't thinkthat they said all of the 10.
Yes.
I don't think they said all oflike um the titles that was
gonna be adapted, but they didhave, they did say four of them
at least.
And from what I'm seeing,because I have look, these are

(42:11):
Mawas.

SPEAKER_06 (42:12):
Stop stalling me, bro.
Just tell me the titles.
Tell me the titles.

SPEAKER_07 (42:16):
The Stellar Swordsman, the Stella the
Stellar Swordmaster, which Iheard is dope.
Hardcore Level and Warrior,which I hear is also dope.
Down to Earth and Elf, Elf andWarrior.
I don't know about Elf andWarrior.
I didn't hear much on it though,but I do know about Stella War
Swordsman and Hardcore Level andI heard those are good too.

SPEAKER_06 (42:35):
I'm not gonna hold you though.

SPEAKER_07 (42:37):
You know what the omniscient reader?

SPEAKER_06 (42:39):
I kind of did.
And I also wanted them to justlike remake God of high school.

SPEAKER_07 (42:46):
Like remake God of high school, bro.
That do need a remake.
That do need a remake.

SPEAKER_06 (42:52):
And take over Tower of God, bro.
Thank you.
Take over Tower of God, bro.
The story's too cracked.
It's too cracked bro.
Crunchy World does not deserveit.
No.
Crunchy World don't deserve it.

SPEAKER_07 (43:03):
No.
I didn't even get to finishseason two.
I ain't gonna hold them.
Season two is crack, bro.
I know it was cracked.

SPEAKER_03 (43:10):
Cracked, bro.
Way better than season one.
Yeah.
It's one of those things thatit's like is better as the more
you eat it.
No pause.

SPEAKER_06 (43:25):
I know what you mean, bro.
So it definitely is this is oneof those shows, bro.
You really gotta get into it.

SPEAKER_07 (43:33):
I know you heard about those that news though.
Michael Jack combiopic.

unknown (43:37):
Yes.

SPEAKER_07 (43:39):
Did you hear about that?

SPEAKER_06 (43:40):
I did.
So we had a lot of jokes.

SPEAKER_03 (43:48):
So it's his nephew, which is which is definitely
Faya.
Um he don't look bad either.

SPEAKER_05 (43:54):
I think they fixed his nose a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 (43:57):
He don't look bad.
I just think that um this can gotwo ways.
This could either be the mostgreatest biopic to ever be
fucking made.
Mainly because of the fact thatit's fucking Michael Jackson.

(44:19):
You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 (44:20):
Like, but but if they truly take the time to do
it right and don't hold nopunches.

SPEAKER_03 (44:32):
And I wanna know what they're gonna do with the
Vitilago thing, but um if theydo it right like that, I think
it's gonna be great.

SPEAKER_07 (44:41):
I did hear some things where well this is
rumored, so this isn't likeagain, take it with a grain of
salt.
Don't even really have to bereal, but it was rumored that it
might be parts.
Truth be told, I'm kind of overlike the whole movies era where
we break films into likedifferent parts and stuff.
Like, unless it's a huge story.

(45:02):
And this is obviously is like, Iguess, not I guess it is gonna
be huge story.

SPEAKER_03 (45:06):
For this, I'm not mad at it for this because of
who it is.
I if I think what I truly feellike that with it was really
should have been done.

SPEAKER_07 (45:18):
What do you think would be a good release window
for it then?

SPEAKER_03 (45:20):
If they do parts.
So if I I want some real shit,if they do parts, niggas need to
do the Jackson five, the niggasneed to do when he got solo, the
niggas need to do his last, thatlast.
So three, if we gonna do three,let's do three, right?

(45:40):
Nah, three's great.
Let's do three, let's do three.

unknown (45:43):
He's not wrong.

SPEAKER_03 (45:45):
Let's do three.
And that and his last part wasgonna was gonna be with all of
this, what with with what he wasgoing on with the masters, them
saying with with um with himtrying to buy that, because them
saying they jacking a lot of theum, I'm saying, you know, the
story.
It is a lot to go over.

SPEAKER_06 (45:59):
It's a lot to go over.
His story really writes itself,bro.
His whole life was a movie.
It was actually crazy.

SPEAKER_07 (46:04):
He do have a lot.
I will I I will give it that.
It is a lot of people.
So that's what that's what stuffto go over.

SPEAKER_03 (46:09):
What I'm saying is they need to put this bitch in
the parts.
And if they jam-packed it, thenthat would be the wrong thing.
That'll be a disservice and theinjustice to his legacy.
And that's just how I feel as afan.
I don't give a fuck about howanybody else feels, especially
his family.
Because obviously they got hisfamily involved.

(46:30):
You know what I'm saying?
But I just think personally thatit needs to be broken up so
people can really feel, becausenot everybody, not everybody,
you know what I'm saying?
I didn't grow up on MichaelJackson.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, like he had died, you knowwhat I'm saying?
Like when I was young.
Yeah, me and Lamars.
Like, so so me and Lamar wereover here cosplaying as well.

SPEAKER_07 (46:51):
But dressed up as a it was crazy.
It was look, it was a time,okay?

SPEAKER_03 (46:55):
I mean, like, so so for people that that don't have
the, but everybody knows fuckingMichael Jackson.
Everybody knows Beliche,everybody knows Thriller.
You know what I'm saying?
For those people that don'tknow, that had, that wasn't able
to live and experience that, oneof my fucking customers at my at
my dispensary um came the otherday.
We was playing Michael Jackson.
He was like, So I seen him fivetimes in my life.
I mean, he was like, I've beento over a hundred concerts.

(47:16):
His is the most craziest, mostphenomenal concerts I ever seen.
You know what I'm saying?
For a motherfucker to say that,he dumb old too.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, so motherfucker to saythat, I want to experience that
on the screen.
I want to, I want to feel whathe what he's saying.
You know what I'm saying?
I want, I want them, I want themto to fake a fucking concept.
I want I want to see all of thatwhen he when he did the moonwalk

(47:39):
for the first time.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I want I want all of that.
I want I want the idea.
I want I want I want even him,because he even he even said it
one time uh where he as to wherehe got the idea of the moonwalk,
where the moonwalk came from.
Michael Jackson didn't wasn'tthe original moonwalker, it was
a different name.

SPEAKER_04 (47:57):
You know, it was fucked up.
I think no matter what they dowith it, it's boom or bust.

SPEAKER_06 (48:06):
And it's all gonna depend on one thing, and it's
how well his nephew does.
Because if his nephew's not goodenough, that that movie's not
gonna do well.
It's not gonna do well.

SPEAKER_07 (48:17):
It's big shoes to feel literally.

SPEAKER_06 (48:18):
Yeah, and it's a lot of it's a lot of biopics coming
out these days.
And I'll be real with you, someof them are fire, and they have
legitimate actors who arealready well established who
aren't like carbon copies of whothey're portraying, but makeup,
all that stuff does a goodenough job, like the one with uh
the dude from the bear.

(48:40):
Uh shit, I forgot who he'ssupposed to be playing.
But Carmen?
Yeah, Carmen from From The Bear.
He's doing a biopic for uh shit.
I forgot the dude's name, butvery well-known singer, Bob
Dylan, and um it looks good fromlike a straight up production

(49:03):
acting per the actingperspective, because Carmi's a
good actor.
It looks good.
So all it's gonna hinge on iswho's playing that main role.
Because Mike, like I said,Michael Jackson's story tells
itself.
He he his life was a fuckingmovie.
Start to end, bro.
Start to end.

(49:23):
He's one of those people thatthey created controversy for.
They don't gotta look far tofind interesting stuff to put in
the movie.
Scripting's not gonna be thathard.
What's gonna be hard is gonna benailing the role.
And if he's not good enough,that movie is not gonna do well.
And I don't personally, I don'tlike the fact that they picked

(49:46):
somebody from his family toportray him.
And no disrespect to his family,no disrespect to his nephew.
It's not anything personal, it'sjust you're trying too hard, in
my opinion, to make him looklike Michael Jackson and make
him be Michael Jackson.
That's not what that's not Idon't think that's what it

(50:07):
means.
I think I think I think you needa good portrayal.

SPEAKER_03 (50:09):
I think the only reason why it was cleared to be
done was because of the factthat he was playing them.
I think that I think I'm saying,like, because you know, there's
to be other conversations thatthat's had behind the scenes a
lot of times, especially when itcomes to people that's that's
dead, stuff that's cleared.
You know what I'm saying?
With the stage.
So um I think when it comes tousing his likeness, it was like,
nigga, you're not gonna shoot,you're not gonna get no other

(50:31):
actor.
We're gonna get we're gonna getour boy Jafar.
He's gonna do but Jackson, thenit's fucked up because of like
that.
I don't know.
Have y'all ever seen him inanything?

SPEAKER_06 (50:45):
No, it's the first time I've even heard of him.
Like, no funny shit, bro.
I'm again, I'm not trying to bedisrespectful.
I'm not trying to diminish thekid's talent if he's talented.
I don't know him.
It like you said, the scream'sone of those things where
they're like, oh nah, it's gottabe in the family kind of
situation.
Oh, we're not doing it.
We're not giving you the rightsto it.

SPEAKER_07 (51:06):
Yeah, they actually give like a full-blown trailer
of it.
That's a no, not yet.

SPEAKER_03 (51:10):
No, it's like a it's like a little clip, a little
clip of something.

SPEAKER_07 (51:12):
No, no, no.
Nah, I'm not I can't.
And his voice has been outthere.
Yeah.
He don't look bad.
No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 (51:18):
He don't look bad.
He looked like Mike to anextent.
But you really gotta nail it,bro.

SPEAKER_00 (51:23):
I gotta see that first trailer.

SPEAKER_06 (51:26):
You gotta nail it.
You have no choice.
Because if you don't nail it,you probably gonna be worse than
Flex.

SPEAKER_03 (51:31):
But what I'm what I'm saying though is that I
could tell that they this isn'tgonna how what the what the
little teaser was from, like hewas hitting certain sh certain
shit that like later, likecertain outfits, and I'm saying
like because you know he had hislike his outfits was like eras
for his songs and shit likethat.
Like, so it's it's it's givinglike Billy G.
I'm saying it's not it's notgiving what I wanted to give.

(51:53):
Pretty much what I'm saying.
Like when I from the looks ofit, it's not like like if you if
you go and do it, if you're notgonna do Jackson Fox, can we do
like at least like thebeginning?
Like, like I want thismotherfucker to start when he
was going to do it.
He started going solo.

SPEAKER_07 (52:06):
Might be.
Like I said, whoops.
That first actual trailer willlet me know.
That first actual trailer willlet me know everything I need to
know.
If I'm gonna see it or not.
Hopefully it is good though.

SPEAKER_06 (52:18):
Love Mike.

SPEAKER_07 (52:19):
Love Mike.
You got a debate for us.
Or something that you somesecret that you had going on.
I I I don't know what you had.

SPEAKER_04 (52:30):
Oh god.

SPEAKER_03 (52:34):
So we're gonna put this, we're gonna, when we clip
this, we're gonna put it upabove us, wherever this is gonna
be at.
You know how the fucking shitgoes.
Anyway, we do it in post.
We're gonna do it in post.
I'm gonna read it out for rightnow.

(52:54):
So, we got different matches.
It's a tag team tournament, andwho you betting on for these
matches?

SPEAKER_06 (53:03):
Right?
You better give me somethinggood.
I'm seeing a lot of bum versusmatches lately on the internet.

SPEAKER_07 (53:08):
Look, I ain't gonna hold you, man.
The versus communities andshambles.
I saw some I saw something.
Alright, truck me.
Gotcha.
I just saw some shit, bro.
Not even good shit.

SPEAKER_03 (53:21):
So, match one.
We got correct me if I'm wrong,I don't know who Shorty is in
the green.

SPEAKER_07 (53:32):
Oh.
We got um the Phoenix.
Phoenix, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
We got Gene Grey, well, JeanGrey Phoenix, Captain Marvel, uh
versus Supergirl and WonderWoman for match one.
Match two is Spider-Man, IronMan versus Blue Beetle and
Cyborg.

(53:53):
Match two.
Match three, they got BlackPanther and Namor versus Batman.
But what's Batman?
I don't know, actually.
It looks like Batman Beyond.
I ain't gonna hold you.
I'm gonna just say BatmanBeyond.
Batman Beyond and um Aquaman.
And then match four is Wanda andDoctor Strange versus Zatana and

(54:14):
um Doctor Fate.
Doctor Fate.
Alright, match one, I'm gonnagive it up to uh Marvel on that
one.
Gene Gray and and um Carol,Carol Danvers.
That Phoenix shit isoverpowered.
Exactly.
Yeah, Phoenix already got thatshit just for just off that.
Or else I would have gone withWonder Woman, though, but like I
gave it to Phoenix.

SPEAKER_06 (54:35):
I love Wonder Woman, but like they call her to fight
stuff like the Phoenix with theJustice League.
You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 (54:42):
Not by herself.

SPEAKER_06 (54:44):
Not by herself.
Um Match 2.

SPEAKER_07 (54:46):
I mean, she'd be fighting her own gods though,
but not like this.
Not like that.
This is different.
This is different.

SPEAKER_03 (54:51):
Not like that.
Um Match 2.
I'm definitely getting um BlueBeetle and Cyborg.
Yeah, I'm going with DC on thatone.
You know what I'm saying?
Spider-Man and Iron Man, I'm notgonna lie.
Cyborg is just killed.
I'm just gonna be real with you.

SPEAKER_07 (55:03):
I mean Cyborg's just gonna talk to that armor.
I mean, go I mean, Tony's gonnabe like jumping yourself up.

SPEAKER_03 (55:11):
You know what I mean?
Like Jarvis?

SPEAKER_07 (55:12):
Oh, that's an arc reactor?
Alright, shut down.
My name's not Jarvis.
Cyborg.
He's gonna kill him, man.
Word.

SPEAKER_03 (55:17):
That's your heart.
That's your heart.
Shut down.
Let me borrow that, bro.
Um, match three, I'm not gonnalie, like who's match three
again?
Match three's um Namor, BlackPanther, and Batman Beyond and
Aquaman.
Depends on where it's at.
If it's if it's if it's BobWater or Dry Like, that's two

(55:39):
that's two motherfuckers whoover here swimming, bro.
If it's by water or dry land,those is two different types of
conversations.

SPEAKER_07 (55:49):
If it was old man Bruce, I would probably side
with him because comic Aquamanhas been, he's a waterbender
now.
Like they've been a bloodbender.
Yes, like they've been ampingup.
Aquaman's been getting amped upin the comics.
So I probably would have givenit to them, but it's Batman
Beyond.

SPEAKER_03 (56:08):
He's not Terry.

SPEAKER_07 (56:09):
He's my guy.
He's just not Bruce.
And I think he's gonna need alittle bit.
You're gonna need a Bruce inthis situation.

SPEAKER_03 (56:18):
I'm saying, so I'm definitely giving it to um Black
Panther and Namor.

SPEAKER_07 (56:22):
Um also, I'm kind of scared if Namor gets a bigger.

SPEAKER_06 (56:27):
Let's be real.
They're gonna wind up jumpingAquaman.
They really are because Terry'snot a warrior, Terry's a hero.
BP's a warrior.
Namor's a warrior.
Yeah.
They're gonna wind up jumpingAquaman, bro.

SPEAKER_03 (56:40):
Yeah, he's gonna be fighting for his life.
He'll be flying away.
But that's but that's what I'msaying.
Like, this depends because thisdepends on if where it's at.
Because if it's by water, Iain't gonna lie, I'm giving it
to Aquaman.
I'm giving it to Team Aquaman.
I'm not gonna lie to you.
But if it's but if it's nigga,if you're not by water gang, I
ain't gonna capture you.
Yeah, Namor can fly.

(57:00):
Yeah, Aquaman's more versatilein the water than Namor.
Yeah, exactly.
Aquaman grants strength or morestrength from the water.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Like, so so so when it comes tothat, like flip up.
He could run that 1v2.
Easy.
I got this.
Fuck all that vibrate, vibranthim these nuts, nigga.
No, no disrespect for ChatBowman.

(57:22):
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's it's just comic.
Um uh in the match four, uh,Wanda, Doctor Strange.

SPEAKER_07 (57:29):
I'm giving it DC, bro.
Doctor Strange is cool.

SPEAKER_06 (57:32):
He's he's fire.
I need you to explain this to mebecause I know Dr.
Fate is fire, right?
I'm gonna give him his respect.
I know Dr.
Fate is fire.
What has Zatana done?

SPEAKER_05 (57:44):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 (57:45):
No, yeah.
So I was gonna I was gonna say,I was gonna say this too,
because I'm I'm super, I wasgonna Because she's gotta be
cracked, bro.
Because this is this is this isScarlet Witch.
She's gotta be cracked, bro.

SPEAKER_05 (57:55):
She has to be cracked, bro.
Because Doctor Strange can fightDr.
Fate.

SPEAKER_03 (58:00):
Doctor Strange.

SPEAKER_05 (58:01):
What?

SPEAKER_03 (58:01):
Zatana has to be cracked, bro.
Because Wanda can do it.
This is Dr.
Doctor Strange has his has hissource of the supreme Doctor
Strange.
He can fight Dr.
Fate, bro.

SPEAKER_05 (58:11):
Wanda's going to lock her in a nightmare, and
she's going to sit there andwatch.
Eyes rolled back.

SPEAKER_03 (58:19):
Like, you know what I'm saying?
So, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (58:23):
I don't know, bro.
What has Latana done?
Like, I've seen her in likeJustice League Unlimited.
She's like a regular person tome.
You feel me?
Like her portrayal was notstrong in there, and I don't see
her in a lot of comics.

SPEAKER_03 (58:36):
So I'm just like, what are we doing?
Nah, so so I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_07 (58:42):
I just think magic up over in DC is kind of like.

SPEAKER_03 (58:44):
It's not, it's not, it's not, it's not enough.
Dr.
Fate is definitely, but but withthe added bon, like like
sorcerer against sorcerer,that'll be a great fight.

unknown (58:52):
OD.

SPEAKER_03 (58:53):
But like you just said, Scarlet Witch, not even
Wanda, Scarlet Witch is gonnasit that bitch down.
She's too strong, bro.
And then they go, and then theyboth gonna hop.

SPEAKER_06 (59:04):
It's like the Phoenix.
Like when you really think aboutit, it's a it's the Phoenix
effect.
Because Wanda is like, I thinkWanda's like a legitimate source
for magic in Marvel.

SPEAKER_07 (59:17):
Like she She's um, yeah, she's one of the top uh
whatchall.

SPEAKER_06 (59:21):
What was it, House of M?

SPEAKER_07 (59:22):
Where she like killed to be fair.
In House of M.
She was also amped up in Houseof M.
But yes, still will feed it upthough.
That is a feat.

unknown (59:32):
I don't know, bro.

SPEAKER_03 (59:34):
So I got another one for y'all.
She's scary.

SPEAKER_07 (59:36):
She does have access to the dark hole.
I will give her that.
So she do have some stuff.

SPEAKER_05 (59:41):
Like I said, sweet.
And I Agamomo?
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_07 (59:46):
I mean, this ain't rivals.
You Dr.
Fay shutting that down.
He like he's like, uh uh noAgamoto here.
There ain't no Darm Ramu.

SPEAKER_03 (59:53):
Yeah.
So I got another one for y'all.
Choose three characters, and yougain all of their abilities.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:00):
But the rest on this list is gonna try to kill you.
So we got Wukong John WickSusano.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:12):
Wait, no, not Susanoo.
Um Su Su it's a nigga from JJK.
Um, yeah, Sukuno.
Um uh Kratos Ghost Rider UltraInstinct Goku Soul Levelin, um,
what's my son's name?

(01:00:34):
Who the Big Wu?

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:36):
Um uh Luffy my son, I think it's Light, um Lucifer,
Deadpool, Superman.

SPEAKER_07 (01:00:48):
And this is Lucifer from the show Lucifer.

SPEAKER_06 (01:00:51):
Alright.
Alright, how strong is thisdeath note?
Like, let's be like, can wethink about this?
Can we talk about this?
How strong is this death note?
What are we talking about here?
Be clear.

SPEAKER_07 (01:01:02):
That's not an ability.
That was just an equipment.
This is an equipment, yeah.
That's why I said equipment.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:07):
So I don't know why lights up there.
But you gotta pick his powers.
That's his power, though.
That's not his power.
That is his power.
His mind, his ability, I guess.

SPEAKER_07 (01:01:15):
His mind is the power.
The death note is just like aweapon if anything.
Which is why his ass don't needto be up on here anyway.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:23):
That's a fact, though.
He's the weakest link on here.
He's a chico.

SPEAKER_07 (01:01:27):
The next one I'm saying is John Wick, though.
Like John Wick, look, Baba Yagais cool and all.
I don't know why Baba Yaga is upover here when Sukuna.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:36):
Why is he up here?
With Wukong, with Ghost Rider.
Why?
Pennant Stare?
Shut his ass down.
Oh, yeah, you fucked.
Pennant stare.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:46):
Pennant stare.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:47):
That that right there.

SPEAKER_07 (01:01:49):
I'm gonna be real.
I'm gonna go with Wukong.
I'm gonna go with Wukong, JinWu.
The big Wu, yep.
And for my next one, I'llprobably have.

SPEAKER_04 (01:02:00):
Damn.
Gotta be Luffy.
It gotta be Luffy.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:06):
Wukong, Jin Wu, and Luffy.
The rest of them come so.

SPEAKER_07 (01:02:11):
Like those two are kind of stack right up over
there.
Hear me out, though.
I'm gonna go Superman, maybe.

SPEAKER_06 (01:02:15):
Hear me out though, because he's on the list and I
got some big brain shit.
I'ma go Superman, I'm gonna goJinwoo, and I'ma go light.
You never gonna see me, but I'mgonna hear you.
And one day I'm gonna hear yourname and you gon'.

SPEAKER_07 (01:02:32):
Look, all I'm saying is, but the powers of Jin Woo,
regardless of who's coming up atme, I'ma just get their
abilities through that becausethey're just gonna be working
for me.
As a shadow.

SPEAKER_06 (01:02:43):
On top of Toon Force.
To be honest, you could kind ofargue that Jin Woo's like so
comparable to like likeliterally, like he's comparable
to people like Superman becauselike he's not fighting on like
regular levels no more.
He's fighting like galacticfights, bro.
Like universe level fights.

SPEAKER_07 (01:03:01):
Like, I also got like the originated Wukong.
So I don't need the inferiorGoku.

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:06):
Nah, that Wukong is the one from the game.
He's an imposter.

SPEAKER_07 (01:03:10):
Oh, wait, what?
Nah, I gotta go with nah.
I gotta go with like the legend,the actual legend.
I ain't going with no.

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:18):
I see who it is.
It's the one from the game.
That's an imposter.
He's not the real deal.
He's imposter?
He's an imposter.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:24):
Damn.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
That isn't that isn't.
I heard that.
I had to switch it up now, man.
He's an imposter.
Nah, but that's what I'm saying.
With Toon Force, and the bigwoo, it's clip, bro.

SPEAKER_04 (01:03:36):
It's clip.
That's it.
That's it.
You know what I'm saying?
It's Toon First World.

SPEAKER_07 (01:03:41):
You know what?

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:42):
So I got a quick hot take.
Quick hot take question.
What is the best?

SPEAKER_04 (01:03:48):
Because I already got my answer.
But what is the best?
Uh cartoon anime song intro.

SPEAKER_07 (01:03:59):
Are you hitting me with this now, bro?
I gotta actually let that sit.
I gotta let that one sit.

SPEAKER_06 (01:04:04):
Nah.
I got you right now.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:08):
For me, you don't know my answer?
What?

SPEAKER_04 (01:04:13):
I wanna be the very best.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:16):
No, I never uh Damn it.
You gotta hit that motherfucker.
You know why?
You know why?
You know why?
You know why?
Because Pokemon knew that thatshit was so ill that 20 years
later, they got themotherfucking original vo um,
the original singer for thatsong to go in the studio and

(01:04:37):
give niggas a live masteraction.
No, no, no.
A live action full song.
You go on motherfucking YouTuberight now and pipe that bitch
in.
I gotta watch it.
I'll check it out.
It's a full, it's athree-minute, it's a whole song.
Three minutes, full, three,two-minute song.

SPEAKER_06 (01:04:49):
I don't know why the full song.

SPEAKER_07 (01:04:50):
That is a good one though.

SPEAKER_06 (01:04:51):
You know what's the first thing that popped into my
head?

SPEAKER_07 (01:04:53):
What?

SPEAKER_06 (01:04:54):
We are riders.

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:55):
On the middle rock and fire popped in the you know
what?

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:02):
When you go home and watch this, you're gonna
anything else that you're gonnathink of, you're gonna be like,
ain't no way.
Because you're gonna see thepassion that this nigga had in
that studio.

SPEAKER_06 (01:05:10):
You're gonna be like I think I've seen this in the
past.
I gotta go back and watch it.
You're gonna be like, I'm gonnacheck it out.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:16):
He was googling, though.
Bro, he was going hard in thefucking studio, B.
He was goofing it, though.
So I wanna know everything.
What does that mean?
Hot take, type in the comments,leave it in the chat.
Anybody who puts bluebird,you're basic.

SPEAKER_07 (01:05:29):
Facts.
I guess I'll post mine in thecomment.
I ain't got none for y'all rightnow.
Yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:37):
But it's been another episode.
Been a fire one.
Hell yeah.
Season two.
And you fook episode four.
Appreciate you, dog.

SPEAKER_07 (01:05:46):
We're gonna be back on the next one.
Just let me know.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:48):
Time will tell.

SPEAKER_07 (01:05:50):
Let me know, bro.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:50):
Let me know.
Um going forward, we might beeven extending some of these um
these episodes.

SPEAKER_07 (01:05:58):
Uh talks with that, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:59):
Yeah, yeah.
So it's gonna be, it's gonna beit's gonna be cool because we'll
be able to do more things.
And um We'd like to get y'allinvolved too.
Yeah, yeah.
And with more time, we'll beable to do that.
Hopefully, Kaz will pull upagain.

SPEAKER_06 (01:06:12):
I'm always very dynamic.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:15):
You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06 (01:06:16):
It's been a fun Saturday afternoon, bro.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:18):
Hell yeah.
It's been so it's anotherepisode of In Another World Pod.
Which is Vine Mo.
It's Cat.
Holla.

SPEAKER_07 (01:06:27):
Talk to y'all.
Follow us on our socials.
Oh yeah.
Instagram, in another world pod,Twitter, Truck Woon Talk,
Facebook, In Another WorldPodcast.
In Another World, huh?

SPEAKER_06 (01:06:41):
Twitter's still a thing.

SPEAKER_07 (01:06:43):
Yeah.
X.
Man, nobody ain't calling no X.
Or then the YouTube's.
Be sure to comment, subscribe.
They saying stuff like a hypeand button or whatever now.
Look, bro, I don't I don't know.
Just hit the button.
Just hit a button, bro.

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:58):
Follow your boys.
Like, share, hit the button.

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In another podcast, pod.
We out.
Peace.

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Peace.
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