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October 31, 2025 74 mins

Dr. Clint Heacock spent decades pursuing the “victorious Christian life” promised by Bill Gothard and conservative Christianity.

Instead, he witnessed spiritual control, family harm, and the failure of authoritarian religion.

In this conversation, Clint shares:

  • Growing up in Gothard-influenced Christianity
  • His journey through Bible college, ministry, and a Ph.D. in theology
  • Why he left the faith he once devoted his life to
  • How he now studies cult dynamics & religious extremism
  • What healthy community looks like after deconstruction

A powerful conversation for anyone healing from high-control religion and rebuilding a life rooted in compassion, freedom, and truth.

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The Dismantling Doctrine Podcast

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