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August 17, 2024 • 14 mins

What if building a spiritual community could transform your life in unexpected ways? Join host Tiffany Windsor for a heartfelt conversation with author Chantal Johnson, as they explore the essence of being part of God's spiritual family. You'll gain practical insights on fostering genuine online and in-person connections, emphasizing the power of like-mindedness over mere similarities. Chantal shares her inspiring experiences from hosting a diverse Bible study group, and offers valuable advice on cultivating meaningful relationships through shared interests, whether in church, at work, or during hobbies. They highlight the enriching impact that different life stages and perspectives can bring to a spiritual community.

Discover how consistent engagement through Bible study and creative arts can become a cornerstone for building and maintaining a faith-grounded community. Listen in as Tiffany and Chantal discuss the importance of creating time for community activities that attract both believers and non-believers, offering ongoing opportunities for connection and personal growth. Chantal also introduces her book, "Blessings Beyond the Page," which delves into Psalm 119 to provide practical applications of scripture in everyday life. The episode concludes with a heartfelt prayer, encouraging listeners to seek and nurture their own communities rooted in faith and love. Don't miss this enriching discussion on how spiritual community can bring joy and deeper connections into your life.

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Announcer (00:00):
Welcome to In His Circle, from women for women.
We're here to help you findpeace in knowing you are in
God's hands.
Our goal is sharing the Word ofGod in simple conversations.
We're here to help you thriveevery day.
And now, here is your host.

Tiffany Windsor (00:19):
Good morning, welcome to In His Circle.
I'm Tiffany Windsor.
Today we're going to talk aboutbuilding spiritual community.
What is it and what does itlook like?
And joining me is authorChantal Johnson.
Chantal, welcome back to In HisCircle,

Chantal Johnson (00:37):
I love this opportunity to share more and to
learn more and to be part of InHis Circle.

Tiffany Windsor (00:43):
Well, we're delighted to have you here, and
Chantal and I met recentlythrough mutual friends and we've
had some really wonderful chatsand the opportunity to get to
know each other much better.
We both have a common love ofbuilding community.
I wanted to talk today aboutbuilding spiritual community and

(01:03):
, of course, we're going tostart off with what is it and
what does it look like, andwe'll go into some other aspects
of it.
Chantal, what is spiritualcommunity?

Chantal Johnson (01:13):
So community is kind of a buzzword, right.
I think it's a wonderful word.
We talk about getting connectedin community.
We want community.
Spiritual community is going tobe being part of God's spiritual
family.
The beauty when we have theLord, we are already in a
community.
We just don't always know that.
And so for me, a spiritualcommunity is going to be people,

(01:34):
not just women, butpredominantly since we are
talking about, you know, we'vetalked about friendship before,
and so we're looking at aspiritual community that we can
be a part of, either on our ownor, you know, if we're married
or things like that.
But for us as women to be partof a spiritual community, for me
it's going to be a group ofwomen, and the size can be

(01:55):
whatever size you're comfortablewith, but it's obviously a
group, right, it needs to be atleast like maybe three.
But it's going to be those thatwant to build that spiritual
side of friendship and communityand life together.
So it looks like for me,spiritual community are those
that are walking with the Lord,and I get to walk with them.

Tiffany Windsor (02:15):
One of the things that's the foundation of
In His Circle is buildingcommunity, and it's so awesome
these days how you don't have tohave community with someone
next door.
I mean, this is worldwide.
One of the things you and Ishare in common is we come from
the creative craft industry, andso we've had a community there,
but building a new spiritualcommunity is something that's

(02:38):
going to be new to me throughInner Circle, and so how do you
suggest that we begin building acommunity?

Chantal Johnson (02:50):
So, again, if we're going to talk about a
spiritual community online,that's going to be a little
different than spiritualcommunity in person.
I think both are very important, especially in the world that
we live in today.
So I think community startswith you've got to have a
connection.
You've got to find where thatconnection is with someone.
If we're talking about aspiritual community, it's going
to be those that love the Lord.
I was recently on a, it was acraft retreat, but it was an

(03:13):
online craft retreat and I waspart of the teaching and I
remember sharing the craft thatI was doing and why I was doing
it.
And it had to do with belts andwe had taken Western belts or
leather belts and createdbracelets because we were going
to put the belt of truth on.
It was a way for us to have areminder of God's word.
And a comment came.

(03:34):
A live comment said I love tofind those that love the Lord.
So I think very first andforemost is we let people know
that we have the love of Jesus,not in a preachy way, not in a
judgy way, because he wasn't,but that we just have that love
and we want to share that andlet that be the foundation of
our community.
So online community is probablya little different than

(03:57):
in-person community.
In person, we're going to findpeople through our church,
through our work, through ourhobbies or interests, and we're
going to try to pull them andbring them not pull them, but
bring them into the things thatwe love doing or how we love to
serve.
Online I'm learning that and Ithink Facebook and Instagram are
great ways to have thatspiritual community, but it

(04:19):
needs to make sure that it's aconnection and not just like a
Facebook like or a part onInstagram, that it goes a little
deeper, because that's whatcommunity is it's a little
deeper.

Tiffany Windsor (04:29):
What I love about this is that I have been
seeking my community.
I've been divorced for many,many years, I have no children,
and so I missed all of the momswho have the children and
growing up and staying incommunity through different
events with the children andbeing married and all of that.
So there's all different typesof community and that's what I

(04:50):
love about this.

Chantal Johnson (04:52):
There are, and in fact that's the beauty of
community.
We don't necessarily want tofind people who are like us.
We want to find people who arelike-minded, and that's very
different.
Like us is that you need tolike what I like, do what I do,
go where I go, shop where I shop.
That's being like me.
But being like-minded is havingthat mind of Christ that says I

(05:15):
want to offer hospitality, Iwant to be generous, I want to
serve, I want to cook for people, I want to visit people.
That is like-minded and we allcan do that.
What I love to find in communityis the commonality of Jesus.
But then we can all bedifferent.
I host a Bible study every weekin my home and there's about 15
to 20.
And there are very few of us atthe same life stage and I love

(05:39):
that because there is energy,there is wisdom, there is growth
.
That happens.
And I find that if we're allthe same, sometimes we need
someone to either challenge usor we need someone to teach, and
so I want our spiritualcommunity to look different in
the fact that, yes, we'relike-minded but we have
different gifts and talents andwe're to use them all to share

(06:01):
God's grace.

Tiffany Windsor (06:02):
What I love is the commonality that you and I
have is how, when I was veryactive doing my creative work
and was connected with a hugeaudience, at that time our
tagline was changing livesthrough creativity, and to me,
it's such a perfect way to bringpeople together.
Now a lot of women may say,well, I'm not creative, I can't

(06:23):
do any of that.
But what I've loved learningabout you, chantal, and learning
about the creative projectsthat you do and how you tie it
in, is that anyone can do this.
You take away this factor of Ican't or I'm intimidated, to
include everyone.

Chantal Johnson (06:39):
Yeah, and that is really important and I think
for me and thank you for sayingthat but it is so important to
include everyone and to give theidea that we are all creative
and a part of creating acommunity is getting creative on
how we build that community.
And one thing I have found forthe love of art my mom is from
France.
I learned how to crochet when Iwas like six.

(07:01):
I learned how to embroider whenI was probably six.
I've learned how to do allkinds of things and then over
the years I've been on designteams and I've done all
different kinds of things andthe thing you hear is, oh, you
can do that, but I could neverdo that.
And the thing you hear is, oh,you can do that, but I could
never do that.
And I think we serve a creativeGod and therefore we are made in
his image.
We are creative.
We just don't necessarily allhave the same creativity, but

(07:23):
it's all there.
And so in Bible study and thisis great for community in
general, for me, for Bible studyI don't want us just to open a
book, whether it's a, whetheryou know a Bible study or the
Bible or things that I don'twant to just open it and put it
right back on the shelf andforget what we did.
So I try to create uniquereminders and it's through the
arts and crafts process, if youwill of God's love for us and

(07:43):
the things that we've learned.
And they range from simplestringing beads on elastic and
making a bracelet with the charmto creating verse card holders,
and what I do is I'll have somesay, oh, I can't do that, and
I'll say you can, you can't stepby step, or they get to do as
little or as much embellishments.
I have some that will embellishtill midnight and I have some

(08:04):
that will be done at 8.15 and westarted at 8.10, you know.
But it builds community and Ithink we can find creative ways
to do that.
So mine's through arts andcrafts and I love to bake and I
host and I love to do all that.
But somebody really may lovethinking of the art world.
You know cookie decorating.
So you build a community.
You love to garden, you build acommunity around that and it

(08:26):
can always be God centered.
And then we go out and we dothose things.
And then, as a community, we goout and we serve and we love
and we do those things that Godhas called us to do.

Tiffany Windsor (08:35):
I think you're kind of answering my next
question, but one of the depthsof resistance for a lot of
people is I don't have time.
You know, I have so many othercommitments.
How does one start a newcommunity that feels is going to
serve and be able to bring inthe right people who will come

(08:56):
at that time?
Because building community isabout staying in community, not
coming and going in pieces.

Chantal Johnson (09:04):
And so first, I think we have to decide that
community is really important,and a lot of times we say we
don't have time for things, wedon't have time for that, I
don't have any more time.
Well, we need to maybe stepback and say what do we have
time for things?
We don't have time for that, Idon't have any more time.
Well, we need to maybe stepback and say what do we have
time for?
Is there an area?
Am I going to the coffee shopand reading a book?
Okay, we can put community inthere.

(09:25):
Am I watching a little bit of,you know, binge watching?
We could put community in there.
Not that any of those things areinherently bad or negative, but
if we want to build communityand God calls us to build
community, but community can beright where we live, with who we
already know.
And then, when you've madecommunity important and you want
to share that, you're going tohave people that want community

(09:45):
and you're going to have peoplethat say they want community and
there's a difference.
People that want community willbe in their day in, day out, or
however often.
So, for, like example, my Biblestudy is an extension of my
community and I offer it toeveryone and the door is again
open, always room for one more.
I have some that come everytime and I have some that come

(10:07):
some of the time, and that'sokay with me, because I want to
be the one to offer theopportunity for community.
So it's always opportunity forcommunity, so it's always there
for people.
And so I think also, when yousay I don't have time and then
you create the time, then yousee how much it's invested and
worth your time and you'll wantto keep that community going and
you'll find creative ways andthen you'll love the people that

(10:29):
come for the short term or thelong term.

Tiffany Windsor (10:31):
Yeah, Are you finding that you are gathering
non-believers and believers intoyour community through the
creative yes, yes, I am.

Chantal Johnson (10:42):
That's one area of the creative arts for us and
, tiffany, we've known this thatthere is a beautiful process in
that creative arts, no matterwhich one it is, I think,
because everyone can come,everyone can learn, everyone can
laugh at their mistakes.
We learn to embrace all of thethings that go with that.
And so when you offer thatbecause I have Bible study with,

(11:03):
with creative arts, and then Ijust have some creative arts
that I opened to everyone,knowing that some may or may not
know the Lord, and that's justa beautiful way to say, hey, we
just want to share that love andthe joy that comes from this.
So for me, I have both, and Ihave also women that come from
very different denominationalbackgrounds or no background,

(11:23):
and what a beautiful thing it isto see how much we really do
have in common when we focus onwhat God has to say about
community and friendship andlove and life and things like
that.

Tiffany Windsor (11:33):
Well said, because we do have a lot in
common and there are these falsewalls that are put up that
don't need to be there.
So that's awesome.
As I mentioned, chantal is anauthor and this is her book.
Can you tell us a bit aboutBeyond the Page?

Chantal Johnson (11:49):
It's Blessings Beyond the Page and it's a look
at Psalm 119.
It's the longest Psalm and it'sjust rich.
It's rich with practicalapplications and the way.
I love the lens.
The Psalmist writes about howhe views God's word, and so I
took that and I looked atobviously not every verse, but a
big portion of it and found 25blessings that come from the

(12:12):
pages of scripture that don'tjust stay there.
And so it's designed, can bedone individually or as a group.
It has a part one which is afive day, which could be a
retreat, it could be just ashort study, and then part two
is 20 days, and so it's kind oflike a Monday through Friday
type thing, and what I do is,when I teach these types of

(12:32):
studies, we meet once a week andwe talk about the week before.
The method that I love to use isto write out the scripture that
we are focusing on it's calleda precept and then to handwrite
a scripture.
That is what we're to ponder orto meditate on, and then some
practical.
You know, what are you gainingfrom the scriptures?
And then, what praise do wegive In Nehemiah it talks about

(12:54):
when Nehemiah read the word ofthe Lord, the people wept
because they didn't know, andthen, once they knew the word,
they went and had a celebration,and so there's always a praise
when you come after readingGod's word.
And I love this because you cantake this as deep as you want,
you can get commentaries, youcan look up Greek and Hebrew and
all this, or you can justliterally write out a scripture

(13:16):
and write out your thoughts andall this, or you can just
literally write out a scriptureand write out your thoughts.

Tiffany Windsor (13:24):
I love how you have laid out this book, because
you give a lot of informationand then room for us to take
notes.
And I love that it's day afterday after day, because that
encourages us to stay on thepath of completing, and it's a
beautiful way to engage with theLord every day, and it's just
beautiful.
Where can our listeners findyour book?

Chantal Johnson (13:43):
They can find it at Amazon, Barnes and Noble,
Walmart online, pretty muchwhere books are sold, all right.

Tiffany Windsor (13:48):
Thank you so much.
I look forward to welcoming youback to In A Circle for a
future podcast and may I ask youto pray us out today.

Chantal Johnson (13:59):
Absolutely, and I look forward to being back
with all of y'all and I hopejust everything we talk about
just points you to a love ofJesus deeper and to love his
people more.
Let's pray, god.
We thank you for this day, forthe beauty, for the blessings.
We thank you for community, howyou designed it for us, because
you know how beneficial and howblessings just come from

(14:20):
community.
I pray that we all seekcommunity, that we find
community, that we be a catalystfor our communities to know you
more.
We pray this in Jesus' nameAmen.
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