Discovering Culinary Magic in a Modern Tavern - Meet The Everhearth Inn

Meet Chloe and Drew from Everhearth Inn as we unravel the enigmatic practices of the Honey browser extension, now under the wing of PayPal. Discover how Honey's sleight of hand with influencer affiliate links raises eyebrows and redirects earnings, while its so-called best deals might not be all they're cracked up to be. Alongside this eye-opening discussion, we encourage you to check out Megalag's investigative work for a deeper dive into the story.

Step into a world that merges medieval charm and culinary creativity. Chloe and Drew transport us to their whimsical tavern kitchen, where hearty dishes inspired by games like Skyrim and D&D come to life. Emphasizing the accessibility of these meals, they show how anyone can whip up a medieval feast using everyday kitchen tools. From their viral cheese creations to the excitement for Monster Hunter Wilds, this episode is infused with humor and community spirit.

Unearth the limitless creativity of tavern-style cooking as we explore fun, game-inspired recipes and the tools that bring them to life. Chloe and Drew share insights into creating unique culinary experiences using cast iron and clad pans, transforming a simple kitchen into a fantasy realm. Whether you're a seasoned cook or a curious novice, this episode celebrates the joy of cooking and the stories we create with food.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everybody, welcome to In Moderation.
I got something I want to getto.
Some news broke today whichwould have been a few days ago.
For now when you're hearing it,but like, who cares, whatever,
I need to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I am waiting to hear this.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Rob has no idea, like most Canadians.
Anyway, we do have a couple ofguests on today, though, so why
don't we let them introducethemselves before I go on my
rant at the beginning here?

Speaker 4 (00:25):
Hello, I am Chloe of the Everhearth Inn and I am Drew
, also of the Everhearth Inn.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Both of the Everhearth Inn.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
And we are a fantasy online tavern creator.
Tell them our gist.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
We make high fantasy content.
We focus a lot on cookingspecifically.
We have branched out recently,however, to youtube, where we
make a lot of really fun stuff,including cooking content like
some other fun stuff yeah, we doa lot of geek centered things,
nerdy, high fantasy inspiredcontent, so and you're both

(01:02):
wearing cat ear headphones, Iprobably should put mine on too
these are actually my real ears.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Oh yeah, Perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Let's leave Liam out of it.
Liam can't be a part of theclub.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Oh, I'm jealous.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
We were just talking about RGB gaming chairs as well.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
So we got some light up cat ears.
If you're going to be gamingfor 12 hours straight, you need
a decent chair.
Yes, oh that, so we got somelight up.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
If you're going to be gaming for 12 hours straight,
you need a decent chair.
Yes, oh, that's incrediblethere we go Now.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I've got all the headphones on now.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Now you can have all the ears to hear me talk about
this.
Listen anybody out there.
You might have heard ofsomething called honey.
No, not like the bees make.
I mean, yeah, there is thathoney, but that's not the honey
I'm talking about.
I am talking about honey, theweb extension browser, whatever,
like you know, the one forcoupons, yes, yes.

(01:51):
So basically honey was likethis free browser and everyone
advertised for this they diddeals with, like every famous
youtuber, and they're likedownload honey and what it does
is it searches.
It searches the internet for,supposedly for every coupon
available and then it gets youthe best deal.
So that way you know whenyou're buying something you're
getting the best deal.

(02:11):
Right, sounds great, awesome,here's what, here's the issue
and here's what it did.
So if you don't know what anaffiliate link is, basically
someone says, hey, I like thisthing.
It's dope link in bio orwhatever, maybe on youtube, it's
just down there.
You click on it, you go to thewebsite, you make your purchase.
Part of that purchase goes tothe person who made the video

(02:33):
saying hey, this thing is cool.
Right, it makes sense you knowlike they drove traffic to the
website to buy the thing.
So here's what fucking honeydid.
Though this is I've just okayso basically yes, what?
Okay, oakley, hold on, I'mbreaking the news I got.
Okay, she wants to touch themic.
So, honey, when you would clickthe search for coupon or

(02:54):
whatever, what it would do itwas it would go in and swap out
the link.
It would open a new browser andswap out the link that the
influencer gave for their ownlink, so that when the purchase
went through.
the person who got thepercentage was actually Honey

(03:15):
and not the influencer.
Yeah that you clicked on.
Wow, oh, it gets so much worse.
Okay, I'm not going to makethis whole episode on Honey, but
please go watch Megalag.
Was it Megalag, Megal?

Speaker 3 (03:26):
but please go watch Megalag.
Was it Megalag, Megalag?

Speaker 1 (03:27):
yeah, megalag, megalag on YouTube, go watch the
whole thing.
It's so.
I mean, he spent years lookingthis up and I feel bad just
talking about it.
But Megalag, that was so cool,okay, but it gets so much worse
because you think like, oh, I'mgetting the best deal you're not
even getting the best deal.
You're not even getting the bestdeal because the way that honey
would um, would marketthemselves to companies.

(03:50):
They would say, hey, company,work with honey and you get to
choose which um, um, like whichcoupons get used.
And if you don't want peopleusing the best coupons, then
don't use those.
So we're only going to givepeople a 5% coupon when actually
there's a 30% one out there orwhatever.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Wow, so I actually, because I use Honey I did not
know about this hot gossip untiltoday.
I have Honey currently installedon my browser and I would
always use it.
But then I would go on Googleand I would look at like
RetailMeNot or like other couponsites and look for coupons
specifically for what I'm tryingto buy.

(04:31):
And most of the time at leastrecently Honey did not have
coupons.
But then I would go toRetailMeNot and I would see like
influencer coupons on there andthen I would use them and they
would work and then Honey's likeoh, coupons on there, and then
I would use them and they wouldwork.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
And then honey's like oh, do you want to uh, add this
coupon to?

Speaker 3 (04:53):
honey.
If it worked most of the timeyou should have known about it
already.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Were were like honey five or honey 10.
It was their own, yeah, yeah.
And so they, yeah, they wouldjust swap it out and they would
get that, that percentage.
And then honey gold, whichchanged his name because it's
bought by paypal.
Pay now owns Honey, if youdidn't know.
So they had Honey Rewards,which is basically just like a
shitty cashback.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, which I never signed up for, but it would
always prompt me to do that.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Delete it if you have it right now.
I have not.
I don't even think.
I've made it in the cow Becauseshe's like whoa, this is going
to be crazy right now.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
The tea is piping hot , so crazy.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
So they would have this cash back and, um, so you
would click on like the, youknow, get the rewards.
And again they would just flipit out so that they got you know
the, the, the affiliate link.
They would get that.
And when he tested it, the megalag, he like set one up for
like a nord vpn.
You know that was a big thingthat people um a push right and

(05:48):
so, like he really, he looked itup and he's he would have
gotten 35 for the for peopleclicking his link and what he
found that honey gold was givingout was 89 cents.
That's it in cashback rewards.
So how much we're talkingmillions and millions of dollars

(06:09):
that there's oh that they'vejust been skimming off people,
yeah.
It's not even the worst part.
Hold on Last part, I promise.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
That wasn't the worst .
Oh wow, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
But wait there's more .
Wait, Oakley, there's more.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Tell them about the more Noley.
There's more.
Tell them about the more noshe's not talking, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Oh my god.
Um, no.
So often when they couldn't,when they couldn't hold on
oakley, I gotta sneak in here.
When they couldn't find, whenthey couldn't find a coupon code
, honey would just pop up andsay, hey, we got nothing, but
you have the best deal and youwould just click to close it out
.
And what would happen?
When you closed it out, theywould flip it again and just use

(06:46):
their affiliate code.
So even if, they couldn't findyou anything and you just click
the close, like it said, likehey, we got nothing, and you
would say go away, yeah, clickwould open up a new tab and flip
the affiliate code to them howdoes it do that without me
noticing?

Speaker 3 (07:02):
so like he goes into it, you gotta watch the code
behind this because I like, oh,so I've used honey so much I use
it almost every single time Ipurchase something.
I go to honey.
I'm like do I have coupons?

Speaker 1 (07:15):
I'm so glad I didn't use honey I've been too lazy to
install it and that was good.
Oh well, now that she sees my,now that oakley sees april, we
gotta, she's gotta, go see she'sgotta go yeah so uh, but uh, uh
, yeah, so it was they.
They would just flip that.
And there's more stuff likehe's gonna do a second parter
and a three-parter and all thissort of stuff, yeah, so now that

(07:36):
, yeah, I'm sorry, so there'sgonna be multiple parts to this.
But um, linus tech tips was oneof the people that like
promoted a lot and they do a lotof stuff with computers and
whatnot.
They didn't find out until likethree or four years after
promoting honey, and they justquietly stopped working with
them.
And, and mega, like, hecontacted them and they said

(07:58):
they found out.
They basically said like wedidn't like how they worked with
affiliate links, how they didthat, and so they stopped
working with them.
But they didn't, you know, saythey didn't like say anything.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
They did it whistleblow, and what's crazy is
they did.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
They then, linus tech tips, went and signed up with a
different company that didessentially the same thing.
It was just like a differenttype, like you know, another one
that flips the affiliate codeor whatever so that's, very
weird.
There's going to be multipleparts.
Because he says at some pointsHoney would find an 80% off

(08:31):
coupon, which is crazy.
How does that work?
He says it gets worse andyou're going to have to watch
part by the time you listen tothis part two and part three
will probably be out.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Go watch all of them on Mega Lag.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
It's crazy, oh man.
So anyway, how are you guysdoing After my 10?

Speaker 3 (08:49):
minute-.
Well, now I'm like a little bitangry.
I was okay, but now I'm like-.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Influencers have lost , like just straight thousands,
from them millions of dollarsoverall.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
And like this, I don't know if it's illegal,
because how many people usehoney?

Speaker 1 (09:05):
I feel like so many people use honey.
Yeah, he went over how manylike advertisements for honey
there were and I don't rememberthe exact numbers.
It was astronomical, um andjust, but like billions of views
, like it added up to billionsof views of people seeing this
ad for honey, and so it's yeah.
So if you have it, uh, deleteit, don't download it.
Um, there's gonna be I'm I'massuming a class action lawsuit.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
All of this is alleged, by the way.
I wonder if there's some sortof legal loophole or they were
just hoping they weren't goingto get caught.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Oh, he contacted Honey and they straight up said
what they did.
They're like if you click Honey, that last click you use is we
use our affiliate link.
They just straight up were likeyeah, no, totally, that's what
we do.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
I'm like, wow, there's no, like, oh, there's
got to be something.
Because, like, if they're sooutwardly like, yeah, we did it,
they must be confident thatthey found a legal.
I'm not a lawyer.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
I'm not a lawyer, I don't know.
This is so bad.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
It feels so, illegal Deceptive.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
It feels so deceptive , yeah, that they must have some
loophole that they'reexploiting.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Some tiny sentence in their terms and conditions.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, exactly, we're like well, you didn't read a,
you know.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Because nobody reads those 40 paragraphs down line
seven it's totally cool.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
We take all your money, click yes.
We don't cool.
We take all your money, clickyes.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
We don't guarantee, except for 89 cents.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Here you go, peasant.
Here's your doubloon.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Wild stuff man, Absolutely wild.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
I feel justified in my not using them now.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
A lot of people are like that.
Yeah, I feel bamboozled, I'm soglad I was too lazy, I
downloaded it once.
I mean you don't lose, I guess,probably too much as the
consumer, Like they might.
You might not find the bestcode, but before you probably
weren't going to use any codeanyway.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
You probably didn't lose too much if you had it
downloaded.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
It's more for the people that had like the
affiliate links Anybody who hadan affiliate link could have
lost out on significant moneyyeah yeah yeah, my, my
preferential way of doing thatwould is typically I go on
reddit and I search for reviewsabout what I'm looking at buying
and somebody who had a reallynice review not like nice as in.
The product is nice as in.
They put lots of thought intotheir review detail.

(11:20):
I'll be like, okay, I'm gonnause your code because you put
the effort in.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yeah exactly Wow, interesting, but anyway.
So you guys do cooking, that'scool.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Sometimes with honey.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
I feel like it kind of applied to us because we're
influencers, we might have anaffiliate link or whatever, but
still I needed to talk aboutthat because it's just wild.
So what do you guys do?
I'm curious, I'm curious, I'minterested oh yeah, well, it
varies, um.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
We typically so on our for a lot of our short form
and I guess, our long form too.
We do like tavern style, whereI'll dress up as a tavern wench
or I don't know if I'mconsidered a wench.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I've been a definition of a wench.
Let's say't know if I'veconsidered a wench.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
The definition of a wench.
You know what.
It depends on who you askwhat's a wench?

Speaker 1 (12:11):
It depends on the year.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
If you ask me, it's the waitress that goes to the
table and specifically bendsover, so you get a nice full
view.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Nice low cut shirt.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Get that nice tip Push a little extra.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
That's the Tower Hatch.
Do you think tipping happenedback then?
How common do you think tippingwas back in medieval times?
Would?

Speaker 2 (12:33):
they actually be like hey.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
I like the fact that I saw most of your breasts.
Here's some money.
What do you think happened?

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Thank you, my lady Was it 20%, were they just like
whatever they had.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
What was the affiliate code economy like back
then?

Speaker 1 (12:46):
where was the honey back then?
That's my question.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Someone that snuck in at the last yeah, yeah, we
started out in uh, covid,essentially, uh, trying to
embody the feeling of likeyou're playing skyrim and you
walk into a tavern in Skyrim andyou feel that like warm, you're
not in the elements, you're notin danger, you're safe here,

(13:10):
and so we started.
We have a like a tavern themedset that we would have.
That was in our apartmentkitchen, where it was.
Uh, our first mistake was we'dhave to build the set every time
we wanted to shoot, and so thatwas like 45 minutes of draping
lights absolutely awful.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, well, yeah, it was well.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Yeah, it did it absolutely yeah, um, but yeah,
we do tavern inspired cooking.
Uh, to kind of act as if youwere walking in and seeing this
chef at the tavern creating itfor you and you could feel
welcome here.
So we do a lot of themedrecipes.
We have a whole bunch of nerdycookbooks that we cook from.

(13:52):
So we have like D&D cookbooks,skyrim, stardew Valley,
overwatch, a bunch of others.
So it's fun.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Do you ever create like recipes?
So you create recipes from thegame like they had like you, you
know, like, say, a Zelda orsomething like that.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yes, do you ever do like that?
Because I know.
Zelda is famous for like oh,you put this thing in that thing
and you make this thing weactually had.
Yeah, I did make a TikTok oflike pretending that, like with
the food all jumping around, itactually did really good on
TikTok.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
So you know, in the game they just toss the
ingredients in and they all justjump up.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
So I was like I want to recreate this.
So I took some fishing line andtied it to like shrimp and
whatever the other ingredientsare.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
So I had like a marionette system going Shrimp
marionette.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
I'm like making these shrimp in the bowl, but we made
, I have made like fried ricefrom Zelda.
And then what was it?
Oh, we did a.
It's a.
Oh, monster Hunter.
How, monster Hunter just hasreally good looking food and we
have a discord where people willlike suggest what they want us

(14:55):
to cook, and Monster Hunter wasvery requested, so I made like a
huge monster stop MonsterHunter style meal, and then we
always, like always put up therecipes on our website, the ones
that we come up with.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
I imagine in February you're going to get busy with
the new release of MonsterHunter Wilds.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Ooh, I didn't even know that was coming up.
How did I miss that?
Oh no, oh no, oh no, oh no.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah, I just the food on Monster Hunter is just oh.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
My main question with all that, though, is how much
seed oils do you use?
Like how many gallons, like ingallons?
Give me an estimate.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
It depends.
I guess, if we're deep fryingsomething, we made some Stardew
Valley inspired I don't know, itwas from the Stardew Valley
cookbook and I had to deep frysomething.
I don't typically deep frythings because, number one, it
scares me and number two, that'sa lot of oil, I feel like they

(15:54):
did a lot of deep frying in alot of these games.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
When did you have the opportunity where you just had
all this fucking oil?

Speaker 3 (16:01):
It's not like you had all that same back then.
In your adventurer's, not likeyou pull out your gallon of
vegetable oil.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
I know right, like oh I.
I collected 80 000 peanuts andnow I have just enough peanuts
to fry refine these peanuts intooil and fry some chicken yeah,
um, what do like?
Do you have somebody like yourfavorite things that you make,
like some of your favoriterecipes or like type of food?

Speaker 3 (16:26):
you know that sort of stuff to make we do like to
joke that a lot of our viewscome from cheese themed recipes
I believe it okay, okay, give methe download on cheese oh yeah,
it's just, we had a fonduerecipe that got a lot of views
recently for thanksgiving um, Imade mac and cheese, uh, and
that got a lot of views.
Recently for thanksgiving um, Imade mac and cheese, uh, and

(16:47):
that got a ton of views.
Because you, what you do is youstart with the cheese pull and
then people are like, oh my god,that's amazing who doesn't like
cheese, yep, and when you'reusing three pounds of cheese in
your pasta, it can kind of be alittle bit of a little hook for
people so, but we've joked thatcheese is like yeah like joke

(17:08):
but like legit, like if youlooked at our like top 10 best
videos, probably at least six ofthem have a significant amount
of cheese.
Yeah, tavern style food I guess,I don't know it's that and then
like big meaty plates so likethe monster, the monster hunter
style you're talking aboutmonster hunters.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
So what are the most common meals?
I guess you see in games Thingscoming over.
Is it just like a big, fuckingmassive?

Speaker 3 (17:32):
dinosaur steak.
Oh, it's gotta be meat.
Yeah, just huge meat.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
So we had like a huge rack of ribs, like the biggest
one I could find, because it waslike the Tarrasque style ribs.
I themed it towards D&D but itwas actually Monster Hunter
style, but yeah, it was justlike a big slab of ribs.
I guarantee if I found like aturkey leg and roasted that
that'd probably be a good onetoo.

(17:57):
Now that I think about it, Ishould do that.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
You should have done that, yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
I will A lot of like tavern style cooking.
I think the key is to looksimple, like to look like it's
not 800 ingredients, it's justlike meat and some basic sauce
and vegetable and stuffing, yeah, but like the key in that is
trying to add in style to makeit taste really good, and not

(18:23):
just those four ingredients.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
I can't imagine food that back then tasted super
great because, like theyprobably whatever it was like
root vegetables and then like ifthey had some meat, like that
was dope potatoes were not athing, yeah exactly.
Yeah, man, like right now, likeour and the average person's,
like fucking spice rack ordrawer or whatever is like all
the money in the world back thenbecause, like you, had just

(18:46):
like nothing you might have.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
You might have salt and, like some, like one spice
it's like so much of the britishempire was about acquiring
spices like oh yeah yeah theydominated the world for that is
that why all the carnivoresdon't fucking season their food
ever?

Speaker 3 (19:01):
like, is they?

Speaker 1 (19:02):
just because, like back then, they didn't have any
seasoning, so they're like yeahsalt meat yeah live like your
ancestors yesexactly diet 29 like I remember
watching a youtube video wherethey're like, um, they were
going over, what up, uh, apeasant would eat.
This is like medieval.
I think this is like a medievalone, uh, versus what a rich

(19:24):
person would eat.
And I'll be honest, like thepeasant one actually look better
the rich one, because theydon't really, because they're
always trying to fucking doweird ass shit, you know, right
like they're like oh, I got thisfrom this region and that like
it just turns out fucking weird,bro.
It often turns out just like arecipe for gout, like it's just
like all this, like fatty, likeit's just a ton of like
saturated fat, fatty meats,whereas like the peasant meal
was like they would have a fishand then some peas and maybe a

(19:48):
potato and I'm like, actuallylooks pretty, like I'm not gonna
lie like I would, totally, Iwould totally smash that before
the weird conglomeration ofwhatever the rich person is
eating so like I think there issomething to be said for keeping
it simple.
Do you find that these recipesthat you make are like, are
easier to make than a standardrecipe you might make if you

(20:08):
weren't making a recipe video?

Speaker 2 (20:09):
A three star Michelin chef recipe.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Nah, yes, I would say yeah, our recipes definitely
lean more towards the simpleside, because we also want to
make recipes that are One can bemade without having electronics
, because we don't want to havea blender in the tavern.

(20:34):
We're like, well, so simple inthat regard, and then also, just
so everybody has the ability tomake it, we're not like, oh,
what's it Like flambéing, or Imean, mean, I'm scared to do
that anyway but, I've done itonce and it was, uh, I think I

(20:59):
did it for a recipe, but Ididn't record it because I was
so scared.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
One of our first video that hit a million views.
It was tavern style meatballs,but we cooked the meatballs in
our pressure cooker.
Oh and the like.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
The top comments were like ah yes, ye olde pressure
pot the next time we used yeolde pressure pot, I put a
little label on it and it justsaid ye olde pressure pot.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
If you're on social media, lean into it for sure, oh
yeah, oh yeah.
What's interesting?
Because I just filmed a recipe.
If somebody tagged me in like adisability friendly stew, like
it was like a crock pot typething for people, you know, you
know there's no chopping or likecooking or like standing over a
stove or anything, just puteverything in here.
Uh, oakley's trying to get inhere, try just putting

(21:41):
everything in a pot, and so itsounds like kind of these
recipes would be like maybesomething more of that.
Come on in oakley, say helloand so, like you know, like it's
because, again like you'resaying, like there's it's very
simple ingredients and whatnot.
It has to be just stuff thatyou like.
I take this, I don't knowcarrot or whatever it is, I put
it in here, I cook it right.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
And a big motivation, like going back to we wanted to
bring that tavern feel to you,and if you want to engage with
that with your own cooking, it'shard to do that and say like,
oh yeah, this is this highlyadvanced recipe for a stew that

(22:21):
takes three hours of manualeffort.
It's just a blocker for peoplewho might not be expert cooks
but they want to experience thisthemselves, and so making them
accessible for all skill rangesis just a better recipe, I think
, for the masses right becausewe're dumb.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Now, right, we all agree how stupid we are.
But like back then people werelike way stupider, like so much
stupider than we are now, andlike they still made food.
Right, they still made thingsthat they could eat.
So like I kind of feel likegoing back to that.
It's like, oh, I can, I couldfigure this out.
I can of feel like going backto that.
It's like, oh, I could, I couldfigure this out, I can make it
work.
I'm sure they constantly fuckedup shit, like when they you
know they didn't have like astove.

(22:57):
That was like induction and youhit like six or some shit like
that.
It was like fire and like howhot was the fire hot?

Speaker 3 (23:06):
enough to cook it.
Oh yeah, 500 degrees, maybe 900all right.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
So do?
You guys play a lot of gamesand that's how you kind of find
these things.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
So you're just like you're playing a game, you're
like oh, that looks actuallyreally good, I'm gonna make that
yeah, so well, a lot, so quitea few of the recipes we'll get
from polling on our discord, um,because we have a lot of like
dnd nerds or like we'll, we'llask them like, hey, what do you
want to see?
Um, another way I can I findrecipes sometimes is I go to

(23:38):
like dnd forums and I'll justlook at, like, uh, different
pastries that exist in the realmof dnd and then make my own
spin on it.
Another way is is, of course,video games.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
We play a ton.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah, we play a lot of video games, so we'll be
playing Skyrim or the Witcher Inany of those RPG games.
You have food that heals you,so we'll get different recipes
from that and Do you ever put alittle life bar above your head?
I need to figure that out.

(24:13):
What do you?

Speaker 1 (24:13):
ever put a little life bar above your head?
I need to figure that out.
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
would be the most healing, what everybody right,
okay, so here's my here's mypitch the cheese I feel like
that, let me get my pitch.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Let me get my pitch in here.
Okay, brett, listen.
I think I think like uh, heartystew 100, I think that fills up
your health bar.
You got the meat, you got thevegetables.
It's warm.
Back then, everything was coldand rainy and it sucked, so I
mean depending.
I guess on where you were, andthen you get some bread or
something with it, maybe, I feellike that one, and then you
have way down the list whereit's just like, I don't know,

(24:44):
raw vegetables or greens orsomething like that uncooked
boar meat.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, I mean like in in uh, in uh.
Zelda, the radish is like themost healing item yeah, for some
reason all right, hearty heartyradish.
I forget the exact name of it,but yes, there's a radish that
is like the most healing,healing vegetable in in zel.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
That's an interesting choice.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
I'm going to be honest with you.
Radishes down the list.
Like I don't know, d tier, I'dprobably be like they're not
like quite F, you know what?

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Used to be that way for me, but recently you put
them on tacos really good.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
So I was just going to say pickling them puts them
into like almost A tier, likeyour pickled radish Like pickled
radish.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
You can pickle anything, you can really pickle
anything, and it tastes better.
You can eat pickled eggs.
It tastes like a pickle.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Different texture, though, I get that, but like
eggs are already pretty good,but like radish tastes like butt
, and then you pickle it andthen it tastes actually good Is
what I'm saying.
The biggest difference there Iswhat I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
It's what I'm saying.
It's jumping up a lot.
If you okay, pickling canelevate previously a little bit
nasty food.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Baby carrots, nasty pickle them, baby carrots, not a
baby, not baby carrots sorry,baby corn, those are gross.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Are they in chinese food?

Speaker 4 (26:06):
every time I've had them.
I like to pick them out and Iget to eat them also cooked.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
cooked carrots I do not like, but the baby corn is
so much fun.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Like okay, I give it like 80,000 fun points because
like it looks like a corn stalkbut it's little and I just get
to eat the whole.
Thing.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Yeah, you can pretend like you're a giant eating a
real size corn.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Other foods have little versions right Like
imagine if we had like dinosaursand we shrunk them down and had
baby little dinosaurs.
Everyone would go wild.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
It's like that with corn.
Now I need to make a miniaturemeal a tavern meal, but it's
like for a mouse, like asentient mouse or something,
those little mouse videos we'vegotten.
Oh, I need to do that, he'sjust a little ratatouille
sitting there with his littletiny spaghetti Make where
they're, like he's just a littleratatouille sitting there with
his little tiny spaghetti.
Make the smallest little steaksomehow.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
That'd be cute.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Have you guys seen that guy?
There is somebody that actuallydoes that.
He has a little set.
Yes, his frying pan is tiny.
Yes, and I'm obsessed with it.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
I remember that.
Yeah, I'm like how are youcooking that?

Speaker 1 (27:06):
How did you get that tiny stove?
But for the animals, but forthe mice, you know.
So you get like a tavern mouse.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yes, a tavern mouse comes in.
Make a little tiny.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Oh, good idea you can't leave out the players that
like to play as mice or othersmall races.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
That's our main point in all this.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Putting it on the list and then, alternatively, we
have the giants as well.
Gotta figure something else outthere.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
The giants.
Okay, so then you have aregular person eating a baby
carrot and then a giant with,like a regular carrot.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
No, I have bet.
One time I went and I have aTikTok where people it was like
comment bait I found the biggestcarrot I have seen in my life.
It was as long as my forearm.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
It was as long as my forearm.
It was huge, so I took it.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
I flung it out on the table and people were just
commenting that carrot is huge.
It's the biggest carrot.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
I've ever seen.
The only reason I'm cookingwith this is because I get one
of those massive pumpkins orsomething.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Every year they have to get some of the meat glue and
start gluing a bunch of meattogether into this giant.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
No, no, we found the limit Old meat glue.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
There's some pork on beef and we got chicken down
here we found the line and ithas been crossed.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
There is no line when it comes to tavern cooking.
We cook with what we can getokay.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Man no pressure cookers or meat glue.
What did people even eat backthen?
Nothing, I mean technically.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
within our realm, magic exists, so meat glue is
not out of the question.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Magic does have like a In my opinion.
Yeah, it has a ring to it, kindof like Magic Mike, but not at
all.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Magic meat, magic meat, mystery magic meat.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Magic Mike's magic meat.
How many games have mysterymeat in them?

Speaker 1 (28:55):
It's chicken pork beef.
I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
It's a turducken.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Meat Smart.
Today, if you open a videobefore Rob got here because he's
off cooking himself, whatever.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
We were talking about how, like you, for the
algorithm.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
You got to, like you know, whore yourself out a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
You know you got to you got to just lower that shirt
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Well, also that but, and starting off with like today
on magic Mike's meat, I don'tknow, I'm just saying, you got
my attention, I'm interested inwhat you're making now.
Yeah, just throwing that outthere.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
If you're scrolling through TikTok and you suddenly
hear that you'll know it was me,You'll have to see it.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
You guys might not know this, but I have a.
I have a series that people askme about.
All the time I got to semen uh,c-m-e-n.
Sheep meals, extra nutrition,sheep meals, extra nutrition and
I started off with like, hey,you know what I I forgot about
semen.
I really just let semen slipthrough the cracks.
I'm trying you know, boom,that's what I'm saying.

(30:02):
This is how, if, but if I starta recipe with just like hey
guys, I'm gonna make a simplerecipe that's kind of healthy
and no, everyone's scrollingaway.
You need semen first before youcome back.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Today we're cooking with semen.
And then Drew comes in dressedas a.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
I'm telling you most views.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
you've gotten Most views you've gotten I'm just
trying.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
I'm not telling you to do anything, but if you're
looking to get you know a littlebit more out of the algorithm.
You need to be kind of wild offthe start, you know.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
We're fighting against AI making wild claims.
Look what AI has made us do.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
This is your fault.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
You fight fire with fire.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
One of you I don't care which one of you does it
has to start the semen video andyou have a hidden thing of
whipped cream or something justoff the camera and you come in
and you say we're cooking withsemen, white shoots all over the
place.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Not Chloe, not you I'm saying we do a little collab
.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
We do a semen video together.
I'm in let's do it.
Start off ye old semen.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Ye old start off.
Ye old semen, ye old semen.
I am not in, I'm not doing it.
Unless we get to start with yeold semen, we gotta make the
logo it fades in, semen, fadesout ye old and you know listen.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
I mean Liam has to be low on health and then, after
the meal's made, he can eat itand the health bar goes up.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
I'm not great at editing but I'm sure I can pay
someone or something to figurethat out.
It'll make like I'll just drawit.
I'll just like draw like alittle thing doesn't matter.
But like you know I'm talkingabout like food back then.
Like what do they eat?
You know, like it's a lot of.
You know it's like potatoes andlike whatever, like vegetables
and stuff, like grains.
Like fucking china just ran onrice right.

(31:48):
Like if you're talking aboutchina, like that's the entire
continent, like if they didn'thave that, everybody'd be dead I
could run off of rice honestly.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Oh so good.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
I eat so much we were talking about if you could only
eat one food for the rest ofyour life, and I'm not talking
chicken sushi okay, no, no no no, no, wait till the rules.
You have to wait till the rules.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Okay, okay, okay I'll hear you out I said one
individual food.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
So like cucumber or like you know whatever, like a
corn, it has to be one food.
It can't be a whole dish like,yeah, you pick pizza, pizza's
great.
No, I'm talking one food youcan eat for the rest of your
life.
My wife says rice.
I listen, I like rice, but likeI'm not, I'm not that in love
with rice.
For me it's peanuts.
All day, peanuts got crunch.
You could blend them up andmake peanut butter.

(32:34):
That way you have peanuts orpeanut butter.
I can have it crunchy, I canhave it smooth.
We'll say you could add salt,but you can't add a whole bunch
of seasonings.
You can't be like oh and thenadd za'atar or whatever.
No, no, no, no.
One individual food.
What are you picking, hi?

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Hi.
Well, if I can't pick sushi,I'm going to pick rice, sushi,
rice, specifically Sushi rice itdoesn't have to be seasoned.
Sushi rice is essentially likea white Japanese-style rice, so
like nishiki or calrose rice,and then you put sushi seasoning
, which is a mix of mirin and,uh, sushi vinegar.

(33:12):
So if we're not able to do that, I'm still gonna do like a
nishiki rice, like a slightlysticky rice I think I probably
say potatoes rice today on yeold semen.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
We're making sticky rice.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Sounds pretty good, how is it sticky, that's up to
you.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Don't watch the whole video to find out.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Wait till the end, when we'll explain why it's so
sticky.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
For a special surprise.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
I'm telling you, this video blows up, that's all.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
I'm saying, oh, it blows up all over.
You don't know when it's goingto blow, but it will, oh no.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
We are so not getting ad revenue on this episode.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Our career is over.
Pull out.
We are so not getting adrevenue on this episode.
Our career is over.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Pull up For children.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Okay, he says, with his baby.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
But what other than?

Speaker 3 (33:55):
that you will live off of potatoes.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Yeah, potato, potatoes which?

Speaker 3 (34:00):
kind of potato.
Okay, because there's a couplekinds right Sweet potato.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
There's 3,000 kinds Russet potato Really.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Oh sweet, oh, I was going to say there's what?

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Three kinds of potatoes.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
The tiny ones, the little ones the big ones and the
orange ones.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
I was in Peru and I went through this potato museum
where they were showing all thedifferent types of potatoes,
because Peru has, like I thinkthere's actually like 5,000
types of potatoes and Peru has3,000 of them or something like
that, because potatoes camepotatoes came from south america
.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Right, they made their way to like ireland.
We know it's like an irish thing, but like it started in south
america interesting, I don'tknow oh, fun fact I think I told
this before, but I'm gonna tellit real quick because it's
really great like how they gotpeople interested in potatoes,
because when they first cameover people like oh, that's a
foreign thing.
They were like, okay, so youcan't have it, it's a king's
food.
And they put guards to guardthe potatoes and then they told

(34:54):
the guards if people steal them,just let them steal them,
that's totally fine if theybribe you, let them bribe you
let them bribe, you take themoney.
And so people were like, oh,it's a king's food, now I gotta
have it.
And they went and and stole,stole the potatoes, so like
that's how they.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
I'm just imagining the town square, a pile of
russet potatoes guarded by threeguards, yep With blindfolds on
or something Don't take them.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Do not touch Stupid guards.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Or those NPC guards that have a super predictable
path and they stand away fromthe thing they're protecting.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
They walk one way and they stop.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Well, I guess I'm turning now.
You can see their cone ofvision.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
Must have been the wind.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Can you imagine being in one of those?
Cars and someone comes up toyou.
I'll pay you to.
Let me take some potatoes andyou're like.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Let me think about it .

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Maybe just this once, but don't tell anybody else.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
I think potatoes are a solid choice.
I think potatoes are a solidchoice.
There is the potato diet, wherepeople only eat potatoes and,
of course, they lose a ton ofweight because potatoes are
actually ranked as one of themost satiating foods.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Yeah, they are.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Oakley what about rice?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Rice is not quite as it's not as good.
It's a little bit more caloriedense, not as much fiber,
especially white rice andwhatnot.
But yeah, what potatoes are yougoing with?
I don't know if I'd go russetor Yukon Gold is really good too
.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Yukon Golds are great for stew, I think.
Just the big monster bakingpotatoes.
I think you can do a lot withit.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
But if you're limiting me on spices.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
I might regret that.
You can have all of this Wellyou can have salt, so you can
make fries, drew, you're lockingyourself into a lifetime of
potato.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Are you sure this is what you want?

Speaker 4 (36:39):
I think I'm going to lock in.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Okay, just lock in guys.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Rob.
What about you?

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Oh God, I remember we asked this before my first
instinct and you said somethingreally dumb.
But go ahead.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
We did this before, but it was the entire meal, not
an individual food, and I saidfish and chips.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Now, you can only have one.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Those are really good Like.
My initial reaction is wantingto go with fish, but then I'm
like I would get sick of eatingnothing but fish after.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
See, but then if?
You went fish and I wentpotatoes, we could meet up and
create fish and chips and notbreak the rules.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
I like where you're going with this.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
And a side of rice.
Somebody pick seed oil so wecan fry it.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Liam is only going to live off of seed oil, Actually
now that I say it fuck peanuts,I'm going seed oils, canola all
the way there we go.
We got seed oil, we gotpotatoes, rice potatoes, fish
and rapeseed.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
We're on a adventure, and that's how society started
Running off fish and chips in adream.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Go to our Patreon and tell us which food you would
pick and why.
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Speaker 3 (37:50):
Uninstall honey and then use our affiliate code.
But anyway, how you guys doing,I'm a little bit less angry
about the honey thing.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Yeah, after that list of conversation topics, I'm
less angry about the honey.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
I'm just a little concerned about what my future
holds with the semen.
Ye old semen, ye old semen, yeolde semen.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
I'm gonna message you guys, we're gonna make it
happen.
It's gonna be great oh yeahwell, I don't know great, it's
gonna be a thing and it's gonnaget a lot of views yeah, it will
definitely be a thing.
I think people will think theywill find it funny all right,
and then you know we can do anysort of like old, old recipe, I
don't know.
I remember I used to play likeDungeons and Dragons and we

(38:28):
would make like a stew orsomething like a you know, just
a big pot, throw a bunch of likewhatever you might have back
then and it did kind of likeimmerse you into it a little bit
more.
You'd play some music.
You know you play the tavernmusic from like.
You know, yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
You have a little fireplace sound going in the
background.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
One recipe I do have on my list is not.
It's not a medieval recipe,it's a I think it's from the
depression.
The great depression is a waterpie.
It is water pie cross yeah, soit's essentially flour.
I think there's sugar in it andwater.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah, and like that's it.
You don't mix it though.
That's the thing, so you justput it.
Yeah, you're supposed to justput it in there, and you just
dump everything together,sprinkle it in.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
And then you bake it as it is and it like turns into
You're supposed to use butter aswell, I think.
Oh yeah, there's butter in ittoo.
Yeah, yeah, but you don't mixany of it together you just bake
it.
That's wild, and then it turnsinto like this not too bad pie.
I mean, yeah, that's on my listof things to make, because that
I feel like that's a.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
that's a cool recipe too, Like well make sure you
start the recipe with a grayfilter, looking all depressed
and stuff, and then when you tryit you can brighten it up.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Oh yeah, my life just gets so much happier after
eating.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yeah, exactly, exactly With.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Olipop.
Somebody got like an Olipop,like a grape olipop, and did it
and like the comments were justabsolutely hysterical,
interesting.
Like it was just so, it wasjust like.
This is why I can't go topeople's houses, you know all
that sort of stuff.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
We can have a LaCroix , a Pompamoose LaCroix pie.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
LaCroix.
Lacroix and pie come together.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
No times are bad.
How many, how, how?
What soda makes the pie tastethe best is?

Speaker 1 (40:11):
it.
Mountain pepper has two flavors, so I probably go dr pepper.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
I won't even get started on dr pepper.
I could, if we had to pick one,drink dr pepper yeah have you
tried dr pepper zero cream soda.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
That is like my top diet soda right now.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
I've tried every dr pepper no, that's a lie, you've
had it.
Yeah.
No, I've had, I've had.
I said I've tried every.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
Dr Pepper I have not.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Maybe that should be a next YouTube video trying
every flavor of Dr Pepper.
There you go I would be sohappy You're getting all the
ideas on here.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
There's a place near me that sells every flavor of
liquid death Liquid like ofliquid death liquid like their
water, like that, basically, butI feel like it would be good to
do a video just like all ofthem lined up, yeah well, the
names are great.
It's like dead billionaire,because it used to be armless
Palmer, armless Palmer.
But then they got sued becauseyou know yeah also it's a tongue

(41:04):
twister, armless Palmer armlessPalmer, iced tea and lemonade,
all that stuff.
So they got a bunch of flavors.
I was like that'd be kind ofcool to just do a lineup and
just drink each one of these.
They all kind of taste like youknow, like LaCroix, where, like
you drank water while somebodywhispered the word in another
room.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Yeah, the lemon was in the room when the LaCroix was
canned.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Liquid Death is an interesting company because it
feels like it's they existsolely on their marketing, like
they don't have.
Oh, their marketing's so good,oh yeah, yeah, so good, yeah,
top tier, they got like ozzyosbourne and like all these
different, like the, the deep orwhatever, like all these
different characters it, yeah,they, they do their marketing
right.
They don't do their like Idon't.
I'll say this, they don't dolike their uh, fact checking too
well, because, like I got theirliquid death electrolyte mix
and on it it said it had like800 grams of sodium and I'm like
I'm pretty sure you meanmilligrams.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Yeah, I was like you missed an M.
Like how did you miss an M onthis, A very crucial M, yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
So yeah, yes, Exactly yeah.
Oakley wants back in here.
She's got my giant rubber bandball I've made like oh my gosh,
look at this, how much does thatweigh?
Uh enough, okay here, look,here's the rubber bands.
Here's the rubber bands.
You got the rubber bands?
No, she don't want the rubberbands, stupid rubber band ball.

(42:24):
But so I'm kind of curious,like if people were like trying
to get into.
Like she's telling me she needsa book or something right now I
don't know, what are you?
thinking we're trying to likeget into, like what you guys are
kind of doing, like you know,just like the ye old meals and
stuff like that.
What would you recommend tothem?

Speaker 3 (42:42):
I guess we should probably give people actual
advice and stuff on this yeah,well, if they're wanting to make
content, I would say you knowthe bear.
I mean really, if you'rewanting to make any sort of
content, just do it, just start,and then you can add on things
later.
But if you want to want thefull, full, uh, medieval vibe,

(43:04):
maybe get some elf ears, um, geta little bit of it, maybe get a
light that flickers and thenjust find the.
Well, you could go to ourwebsite.
We have all of our recipes onour website, all of our high
fantasy recipes, so you couldpull one off of there but also
just find the most rustic thinkof the most rustic possible

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recipe.
You could, okay, and then justpretend you're eating it.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Does it involve a wooden spoon?
If yes, then it's rustic.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Have a place you go to find something you were
talking about, like your Discordand stuff, but like is there
any?
Like I don't know books oranything like that, websites
that are like dedicated to thisthat you know of.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
There's, we don't pull.
I mean, if we're looking like,if I'm looking to make a recipe
like that I haven't made before,I'll find something online and
then, like, if I don't know how,to what temperature to cook
something to, I'll find asimilar thing online to what I'm
thinking and then put a spin onit.

(44:02):
But for most of our recipes weI mean they're they're like
recipes that you could findonline, like it's a macaroni and
cheese but then, like we'llhave, like you know, smoked
gouda or something else in it.
So we do find some recipesonline and then do our own spin
on things.
Um, we also we have a bunch ofour like cookbooks that we use.

(44:24):
Um, like, if we are using anactual cookbook for something,
we will link the cookbook umusually with an affiliate link,
but also, you know, people canjust yeah, if there is one,
that's a lot of the times ifwe're cooking something that
comes from a video game.
A lot of there's, like some dndofficial cookbooks that we've
been sent and we've cooked fromthose that sounds actually cool.

(44:47):
They're great they send us alltheir new ones.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
So we have so many we .

Speaker 3 (44:50):
We have three, three D and D cookbooks.
We have one where it's a bunchof drinks.
It's called punch-ins andflag-ins.
And I made a it was called anogre toe, where it was
essentially a um whiskey sour,but with pickle juice.
It was really good, um.
So we, we use cookbooks likethat.

(45:12):
We use really good um.
So we, we use cookbooks likethat.
We could use um different videogame cookbooks.
Um, I also have, like someother like more in-depth
cookbooks where it like teachesme how to do certain things.
Um, but I try not to get intothe more complex stuff, uh,
because I am a home cook, I'mnot a professional cook you
don't want to be a gastronomistas a no, and I don't want to

(45:33):
come off as like a professionalcook.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
So that's good.
Tell us like the simplest wayto do.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
Yeah, for the simple you need a pan you need a wooden
spoon, a little bit of seed oiland some meat and fire, and
fire actually we have a littlelittle uh fire stove that we use
um instead of we don't use,like our induction stove for our
videos, we have a little firestove like a campfire I do think

(46:00):
if you're wanting to start outwith like rustic cooking or just
cooking in general, if you, ifyou're a complete noob I think
one of the the biggest likelevel ups for us was cooking
meat using a meat thermometer.
Like if I think, as soon as youjump that barrier from like oh
yeah, cook the steak six minuteson each side, or whatever, to

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cook it to this temperature,your rate of success goes way up
and that that's a huge way toimprove your cooking.
And as if you're cooking simplerecipes where it's just like
meat and vegetable and blah, youcan mess it up but you won't
destroy it.
Like you'll still have a decentmeal and like, oh, I maybe
overcooked this, and now I knowfor the next time, and you can

(46:44):
iterate on that and get betterand better without having too
much frustration.
Where, if you like, we stillstruggle a lot with like bread
and pastries that can be reallyhard and you can, you can fail
to make those and it will bepretty bad and like you'll just
be upset.
And so if you start with simplestuff that like, just like,

(47:04):
doing it poorly is not the endof the world.
You can learn and grow and getbetter and better and start
getting creative, which is fun.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Okay, so start with the things that you could, that
are, less fuck up a bowl, right,so you got your vegetables.
You got your starch it's hardto mess up potatoes that badly
like you can probably mess themup, but there's still potatoes,
like it's still good, and thenyou know like meat or whatever
right any other, like kitchenessentials, like you know.
So you said like okay, I gotpan, got a, got a spoon is there

(47:34):
anything else?
That during your videos, likesomething they're like oh, this
made our life easier.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Like that sort of thing oh for sure, the well, the
this um the fire stovetop likethe.
What is it called?
The?
Portable stove that we haveyeah, we have a portable butane.
I don't would you call it acamping stove?

Speaker 4 (47:50):
yeah, I guess it's, it's it's more of like a
portable butane.
I don't.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Would you call it a camping stove?
Yeah, I guess it's.
It's it's more of like aportable butane stove.
It's like really, it's aboutthis big square and that thing
has been a godsend for likemaking content specifically.
Um, it's also really good forcooking like using a pan,
because you can get the sides ofthe pan, whereas like with an
induction stove, you can'treally do that.

(48:14):
It's just kind of sitting down,but when you have a flame, you
can tilt the pan and actuallyheat parts of the pan instead of
all of it.
Um, so that's like my numberone thing that's like the best
quality of life improvement whenit comes to cooking is having a
gas stove option, and thenspecifically content creating

(48:38):
having a portable gas flamestove option.
Other than that, I don't likenonstick pans.
really for anything, I would geta cast iron pan and there is a
learning curve with them not acast iron, a clad, a clad iron

(48:59):
pan, or it's like a stainlesssteel pan like in.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
They used to war like clad iron, like you know, like
the submarines or whatever.
Like what is this clad iron pan?
I don't know how it's.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
I think it's made by pressing steel like two, not two
, yeah two like pieces of steelor multiple pieces of steel
together and that's called likethe cladding process All clad is
a common brand name or made inthose.
Those have really good pans.
I would suggest getting one ofthose.
As for a cast iron, that waswhat I was saying before.

(49:32):
A cast iron kind of does thesame thing, but it's just really
heavy.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
So I would say that just makes it good for bashing
your enemies with.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
If you're getting into the high fantasy cooking
specifically, I might suggest acast iron pan instead, because
it's very high fantasy lookingwe have and like you can get
real expensive with cast iron,but you can get.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Lodge is a great cast iron brand.
You can get a stand for like 20or 20 or 30 bucks.
The only thing is it it doesn'tcome seasoned.
It does, but it's not great.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Just look up a video on seasoning before we describe
it to you.
Just, it's way easier.
Just like, look over theseasoning.
It's not hard, like oil, youneed an oven boom.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
You can yeah, yeah, it's sometimes you can hit the
lottery and or the jackpot, andgo to a thrift store and find
one that's been cast off mightbe a little rusty.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
You might need to clean it up a bit years yeah,
yeah, they do make it, they alsoadd iron to your diet, just in
case for all you people.
They do add iron by cooking andcast iron interesting, I didn't
know that there's a nice comboset that we started out with,
where it's a two-piecer.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
It's like a stove or a pot with a handle, and then
the lid to that pot is also acast iron skillet.
So you can use that lid as itsown skillet.
So you have like a two-for-onething.
It's a great starter.
You can make stews, you can usethe skillet to cook any meat or
veggies you want.
It's.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
it's a good starter for a rustic vibe I feel like
also having cast iron or likesomething that can get really
hot, like that helps add to theflavor because you get like that
crisp to it without having toadd like a ton of butter or
anything like the char, like youknow, that's yeah does it
increase your?

Speaker 1 (51:12):
risk for cancer?
Yes, do I give a shit,absolutely not, it's so good
like it's.
I'm not giving that up.
I don't care.
I'll make sure I get my fiberand, you know, my antioxidants
and all that stuff and I'll callit a day.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
I'm not giving up on charring my food.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
I see a lot of people get like real into it, like any
sort of like the charring orgrilling like it creates age is
like advanced glycation inproducts and then they're like
that increases your risk forthis cancer.
I'm like, listen, it makes thefood taste a lot better it makes
me happy and so, like I'm gonnabalance my lifestyle.
I'm gonna exercise, I'm gonnaeat my veggies, you know all
that stuff, but I'm not givinglike I want that.

(51:46):
Okay, listen, leave me alone,I'm not gonna?
What am I gonna do?

Speaker 4 (51:48):
not toast my bread, get the fuck out of here and if
you're having uh like charredfood that you're grilling and
stuff, you're having more simplewhole foods right and those
whole foods are what's important, and again, like in balancing
everything else.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
So it's like, yeah, just I see people, so many
people like ask me like thesedetailed questions about this
sort of stuff, like what aboutthis?
And that I'm just like, holyshit, is your life just nothing
but worrying?
God damn, like it's.
That can't be good for yourhealth.
It's fine, it's a pan, cookingit, eat the food, go for a walk
afterwards, boom, you're doneright.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Or if it's cold your steak and your potato with some
char in a high fantasy tavernget your, get your carrots in
there, whatever the hell theyhad to get.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
Get your massive carrots, the biggest the bigger
the carrot, the better Wholeradishes.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
No baby carrots, no baby corn, first baby corn when?

Speaker 2 (52:39):
do people begin when they're trying to make their own
high fantasy kitchen?
Because that's one great thingis.
There's a lot of people outthere that they don't want to
cook because it's either boringor it's too much time, it's
stupid, whatever they're like.
Oh yes, my meat is chemicallychanging into something that I
can masticate in this pan,hooray.

(53:02):
But you add that little fantasyflair to it, you give a little
imagination, and suddenly itbecomes a lot more interesting
to them, uh-huh.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
So I like to turn off all the lights.
I'm getting somewhere, so youturn off the lights.
You have your, your um, we goton Amazon these like flame
lights like flame effect LEDs.
Yeah, it's an led light but itjust does a flame effect.
So you put that in the corner.
So your, your kitchen is nowilluminated with a torch you

(53:31):
have.
You find some like fakegreenery.
You put that up up on your bar.
Maybe you have a couple bottlesof mead or wine or ale.
Another thing you need to getlike a Stein shaped mug so you
can put your water in that.
If you drink water or if youdrink wine, you could put wine
or beer in it, so you'redrinking your mead while you're,
uh, cooking your steak on yourcast iron flame tabletop stove

(53:58):
just don't accidentally spillthe mead into the fire no, don't
do that.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
Yeah, I highly suggest not to do that dimming
the lights and using some sortof candlelight situation put
some fantasy music on in thebackground.
That's another thing.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Multiplies they have quite a few uh like ambiance
style, um high fantasy, uh likeeight hour long videos on
youtube.
So a lot of times, like, ifwe're trying to like get into a
specific mindset, we'll playthose in the background.
I think we used to do, we usedto do live streams on t, on
TikTok, where we would play likeSkyrim music in the background

(54:34):
and then we'd be cooking andthen we'd have like the lights
dimmed and we'd have our littleAmazon light, you know, in the
corner there illuminating for us.
You don't need too much light.
I mean, those things are prettybright, but then you have your
stove as well.
That produces the flame,produces some light too.
Um, I would say that would be apretty good way to get yourself

(54:55):
into that high fantasy mindset.
Another way is you couldcosplay while you're cooking.
Um, I've done that before.
When I have to clean and Idon't want to clean, I will
dress up as a innkeeper, anelven innkeeper, and I will
pretend that I am cleaning theinn.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Specifically an innkeeper, not a tavern wench.
There's a difference.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Tavern wench is only for serving food.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
Wench by night innkeeper by day One's far
tighter.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Yeah, one has a deep V, the other one a turtleneck.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
A nice big wood cutting board is also a nice
aesthetic.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Yeah, having a cutting board, a big like chef's
knife that you use foreverything.
I would suggest getting someGerman steel for cutting.
You can cut like anything withthat.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
Yeah, I think just, there's a lot of value in if
you're a gaming nerd like we are.
There's a lot of value inrelating what you find fun in
video games to this real lifething that you want to do or get
better at, and so likegamifying things getting excited
but like, oh, I'm gonna dressup in cosplay and make a burger
today.
Is can kick you into gear oflike I'm gonna make my first

(56:07):
burger and I might like burn thecrap out of it, but I had a lot
more fun doing it and that'show you get into new things and
try new things and fail anditerate and level up.
It's.
It can make it a lot more funto suck at something and then
eventually you don't suck atthat thing and another thing.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Yeah, jake the dog says sucking at something is the
first step at being kind ofgood at something yeah, but like
, if you're, if you're trying,if you're wanting a high fantasy
recipe, just what's yourfavorite?

Speaker 3 (56:37):
like high fantasy video game.
What do they eat in that game?
Look up like oh, maybe thewitcher they have like some sort
of meat dish, and then find asimilar looking one online
because there's a recipe forlike everything online recipes,
ifcipes.
If someone comes out with a newrecipe, you know it's probably
not a new one.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
There's a recipe for everything.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Maybe not stolen, but like you can't really come up
with a new recipe at this pointIt'd be hard.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
I'm not professional.
There's 8 billion people on theplanet now or whatever there is
, there's going to be a recipefor it.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
They're all eating multiple times a day.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
The ideas have been thought.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Yes, there is no original thoughts, so you will
be able to find your recipeonline.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
That's where the gastronomists come in with their
meat glue and making chimerameat.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
That's a new one.
We get desperate.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Well, is there anything that we didn't touch on
that you guys want to go overhere?
I just want to give you thefloor, just like anything you
want to tell people.
You want them to know questions.
You get asked a lot.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
You're like, oh God, we get asked this so much and
that you want to just throw outthere.
Where's the recipe on ourwebsite?
I swear it's either in thedescription or on our website or
a book, and give the website.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
I guess people forget every five seconds.
Oh, ever hearth incom.
Yes, that's it.
E-v-e-r.
No, yes, e-v-e-r.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
H-e-h-i-n-n how spell , how word?
Word see, we're medieval tavernwenches.
Uh, we don't know how to read.
We know how to cook.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Well, I mean the most important thing is is what are
we doing for ye old semen?

Speaker 4 (58:14):
and we can discuss that later.
But I'm just saying I want likea something salty a salty stew
with all the meat.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
And you know, just keep it, we'll keep it simple
cream of mushroom, I think we doget.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Our most frequent theme of question is like how do
, and so it'll be anywhere from.
Theme of question is like howdo, and so it'll be anywhere
from.
How do I do fantasy cooking?
How do I start?

Speaker 3 (58:38):
making content, yeah, how do I?

Speaker 4 (58:41):
we do a lot of Dungeons and Dragons related
stuff how do I start out withD&D?
I think there's a huge value innot being afraid to suck, like
we were talking.
Talking about earlier.
Uh, and just starting off beingbad and like dnd is has a lot
of social pressure of like, oh,there's a lot of podcasts that
make it look cinematic andincredible.

(59:03):
I'm never going to be able toreplicate that, but you don't
have to because you're you'refocused on having fun for your
own self and, yeah, trying outthese new things.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
You don't want perfection to be your enemy,
like you don't want to feel,like you have to like, your
first video has to be perfect.
It's not going to be, no matterwhat you do, and that's going
to prevent you from being ableto do it is if you try to make
it perfect.
So what you need to do is juststart with what you can put it

(59:33):
out into the world, and thenyour next video improve.
One thing yeah.
Or, if you're not making videos,say you're cooking something,
pick a simple recipe.
Maybe it's not something you'recompletely interested in, try
it and then level up a littlebit more after that.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
And a key patience to have with yourself is don't be
afraid to suck, and then do pushyourself to improve one thing,
however you can so like.
There's one thing to say likeoh, I've made this.
Uh, I have the experience ofdoing this 20 times.
No, you've done it once, 20times over.

(01:00:10):
No, you've done it once 20times over.
Like you, if you get theexperience of iterating on that
and trying to improve each time,you'll come a lot farther, even
if each improvement is barelynoticeable.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Exactly, right before we sat down to uh to suck.
There you go right before wesat down to record this, I was
making food and I microwaved apotato for the first time ever.
I usually cook them thetraditional way in an oven.
Yeah, I didn't use yieldmicrowave, but I tried one and

(01:00:43):
it came out like a rock and Ilearned that I need to cook it
for two minutes less.
There we go, I failed, Ilearned.
Next one came out perfect.
There you go, there you go, Ifailed, I learned.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Next one came out perfect, there you go, there you
go.
It's always a new adventure.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Exactly Just everything that you fail.
It's a new adventure.
Now I am on a new adventure tochange my daughter because she
just pooped in my lap.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
So I have to do that.
That's lovely.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Yeah, exactly, you tell the people where every
again, where to find you, allthe socials, all those things.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
So we are ever hearth dot in on Instagram and tick
tock.
We have a YouTube as well.
We make a lot of fun long formcontent over there.
We also have a website everhearth in dot com, a discord and
a Patreon.
Those are both linked on thewebsite as well, Anything else.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
If you like, geeky fantasy video games, not even
just strictly D&D, medievalcooking related.
We do all sorts of stuff likethat on all of our socials,
especially YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Yes, check us out.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Well, thanks for coming on, guys.
I'm off to my adventure, Okaybye, bye.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
We had to make room for all that delicious food
we've been talking about?

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Yes, of course.