Earwax, Cockroaches, and Other Things That Go Bump In Your Canal

Have you ever wondered why your ears hurt on airplanes, what causes that annoying ringing, or why Q-tips aren't actually recommended for cleaning your ears? Wonder no more! 

This episode features a professional audiologist (who happens to be a Twitch streamer known as Average Girl Games) diving deep into the fascinating world of ear health and hearing. From the intricate anatomy of our ears to practical advice on protecting your hearing, this conversation is packed with surprising insights that might change how you think about those two appendages on the sides of your head.

Did you know your ear contains the smallest bone in your entire body? Or that high-frequency hearing loss happens first because of how your auditory nerve is organized? We explore why human ears have their distinctive shape, how sound travels through your ear, and why those bumps and ridges actually serve important acoustic purposes. Plus, get practical tips for preventing ear pain during flights, managing tinnitus (that annoying ringing), and proper ear protection techniques.

The conversation takes some humorous turns too, from debates about pronunciation (is it "tinnitus" or "tinnitus"?) to strange objects audiologists have found in people's ears. Whether you're concerned about your hearing health or just curious about human biology, this episode offers a perfect blend of entertainment and education from a genuine expert.

Listen now to gain a new appreciation for these often-overlooked but incredibly sophisticated organs, and learn how to protect your hearing for decades to come. Your future self will thank you!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, hey, we're recording now.
Hey everybody, cool.
What's up?
We can't hear you, so we'rejust going to tell you that
we're fine.
Are we fine, rob?
Are you fine?
How you doing Pass?
How are you?
Are you asking me or are youasking our guests?
I can't tell.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well, I figured I'd ask you and then introduce the
guest.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Okay, I am doing the most amazing I've ever done in
my entire life.
Why?
Because I'm here and that'sgreat.
Now you can go ahead.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, and we have a guest here today.
This is Doctor, you're Doctor.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah, doctor, I am a Doctor actually.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Doctor Question mark.
See, I actually, so I have mether through Twitch as a gamer.
Oh, okay, and it was aftermeeting her that I learned that
she was and her Twitch is DrGamer.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yes, dr Gamer.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yes, dr Gamer, yes, dr Gamer.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Dr Gamer, that's actually pretty fucking good.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
It's not official.
I'm trying to get a patent, butI would switch your Twitch
handle now.
That's all I'm saying.
But anyway, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Dr Gamer.
Dr Gamer, Can you look at thispicture of something on my skin?
What is that?
And I'm like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Well, you made something up.
You're an entertainer.
Say something and you will getpeople.
You'll get lots of people.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
And that's actually crusty-o-capulous and that you
know that's really bad.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
You should get that checked out.
Are they there for the games?
Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
But that's all that matters exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
No, that's fair yeah, but yeah, no, that sounds like
a good way to solicit dick pics.
Yes, oh yeah, can you look atthat?
Is that gonorrhea or is thatherpes?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
and I'm like sweet twitch will allow a lot of
things, but I feel like theyhave some standards, hopefully
you know listen, I'll be likeit's medical twitch.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Are we?
Are we really?

Speaker 1 (01:42):
really we're gonna do that no exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Come on, it's educational no, as as I'm like.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Oh hey, no just kidding, I would never do that.
But but no, yeah, no I am adoctor, so well, but I'm an ear
doctor we have, so we have adoctor, rissa something,
something I don't know.
Her last name, also known asaverage girl, games on twitch,
where she is uh, ironically, Ithink, won the award for the
loudest person on twitch, eventhough that she is an

(02:10):
audiologist?
Yes, it's so they can hear meintroduce yourself further yes,
hi, I'm average girl games or drgames.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Just kidding, that's not real, but if it is, it will
be now after this podcast.
Um, I'm a variety streamer andI play kind of a myriad of games
, from first person shooters,adventure games, really whatever
I want, because variety andstanding still and doing the
same thing over and over againjust is not what I'm about.
It just bores me and I have tobe doing some type of something
different or I just get stuck ina rut.

(02:40):
So that's kind of where varietycame from, even though I love
truly I love a bunch of games.
I think all games are good, uh,from retro to now current.
Um, I'm having a good time.
I know you're giggling and, yes, I do play adult content.
No, I'm just kidding yeah,that's, I actually love that one
yeah, I'm just kidding, but uh,well, I mean, am I, who knows,

(03:01):
chat you, you decide out thereyou go and say chat on a podcast
.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
I love it like hey chat, that's fucking great what
do they call viewers, commenters, I don't know?

Speaker 3 (03:13):
community friends with whatever you used to yeah,
so chat, you know, let me know.
But uh, yeah, so I've beendoing that.
Uh, my profession is actuallyI'm an audiologist, so it is a
doctorate degree, but it's onlydoctoral towards hearing and so
it's not anything where, if youtry to show me something, I
don't know, but if you do havequestions about your ears or

(03:35):
hearing in general, I do have areally really good understanding
about that.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Can I ask you questions about my audio mixer?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, no, actually yeah, because a lot of people
who are like, oh, but I'm atnegative 10 decibels, that's
good, right, and I'm like, no,why are you at negative 10?
That's bad.
Don't mix it that way.
No, decibels are important.
You want to be at zero?
That is a good, that is good.
Plus three decibels, eventhough it's an orange and red,
is not a big deal.
You have to figure out yoursignal to noise ratio, which is

(04:03):
really important, which yoursignal is your voice and your
noise is your like gaming.
Yeah, liam.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Exactly.
That's fine.
Liam, here speaking, I have aquestion because before we
started, you said the ringing ofthe ears, which is Tinnitus.
And why is it not tinnitus?
All my life I heard that andthen, all of a sudden, they're
like no, it's not pronouncedthat way and I hate it.
I hate it so much.
It's like Uranus.
They're like no, it's Uranus.

(04:29):
Oh, get the hell out of here.
That's the way I've been sayingit and that is the way I will
continue to say it Fair.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
I think it's because a lot of people got like they're
ringing, they're like, oh,tinnitus.
Because tinnitus and tendinitissound so similar, and so I
think that's why they made thatdifferentiation.
I don't know for sure, but I'ma doctor, so believe me.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
I am a white man on the internet, so believe me when
I say I think it's justtinnitus sounds better, hey you
trumped me, man Crap Shoot.
I am in no minority group.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
so you must listen to me now.
Damn, Tinnitus just soundsbetter.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
It just sounds better .
I like it more and I willcontinue to say it as tinnitus.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
I think you can say it, I don't think it matters, I
believe both are accepted thesedays the doctors tend to use
tinnitus Because it just soundslike tinnitus.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
It's like Reese's and Reese's.
Reese's is correct, but we cansay either one.
That's basically the same thing.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Hold on, back it up.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
What Back up where?
Back up to tinnitus.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
No, which one's correct, reese's or Reese's?

Speaker 1 (05:37):
It rhymes with pieces .
It's very clear.
Okay, but the commercials sayReese's.
I don't.
The commercials aren'timportant.
There's a candy called Pieces,so it's called Reese's Pieces.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
No Reese's Pieces it rhymes Reese's Pieces Reese's.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Pieces, no, no.
That's the alternativepronunciation that you can use
in your life.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
This is going to be the entire podcast.
Just to warn everybodylistening.
Just to warn chat.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Okay, phonetically, if I use my major to say what
the actual answer is.
If the commercial sayssomething and that's the source
material, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (06:12):
You think it's Reese's, just because?

Speaker 3 (06:15):
the guy's name is Reese.
That's so dumb.
I'm going to call you Liam.
You can call me whatever youwant, as long as.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
I can continue to say tinnitus and Reese's species.
That's all that matters.
Can continue to say tinnitusand rhesus species.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
That's all that matters.
But Liam, it is.
But if you're the source andyou say no, my name is Liam, I
say it doesn't matter, I'm goingto call you Liam.
People can call me.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
whatever they want to call me, I'm 100% okay with it,
as long as I continue to saythe correct rhesus species.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Honestly chat.
Put a one in chat if you thinkthat it's Reese's Pieces, or put
a two in chat if it's Reese'sPieces.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
It's Reese's Pieces, but like for ears are weird Ears
like.
I'm thinking of ears likeimmediately.
I'm thinking like the outer earand like there's all these like
grooves and shit in it.
But when I see like animals,they've got these big things
like you can't see my hands,like if you're listening, but
they got these big fucking likecatcher things, like big catcher
mitts, and they're out in thewild and they can hear
everything and they can turn it.
Yeah, why does ours have allthese like weird lumps and bumps

(07:06):
and shit?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
they also have lumps and bumps.
Have you not looked into ananimal's ear?

Speaker 1 (07:11):
well, not, I mean, depends on what about like those
foxes, like the big ones thathave, like the that stand up
like it's just like a littlecone into the ear.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
If you get all the hair out of the way you look in.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
It has bumps and grooves too oh, it just looks
like a fucking flat surface tome.
Like it looks like.
It's just like sound funnelingyeah it looks like it's just
sound waves yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
so when the sound waves hits whatever portion of
the ear your ear, their earit'll funnel in and they're
really cool anatomically.
There's reasons why you havelike a helix and a concha and
things like that, which arepieces of your ear that are like
grooves in them for specificpurposes.
So like if there's a medicalcondition called atresia or

(07:51):
microtia and it's either a smallear or the absence of an ear.
So they just don't have it bornwithout it and they don't
either, don't have an ear canal,which is like pretty normal.
With that.
They don't just have cartilagethere, they have conductive
hearing loss, which means thatsound can't conduct through the
system to get to the inner earbecause there is no outer ear.
And so if they create an earcanal, which is great, that will

(08:14):
improve their hearing, but itwon't completely restore it
because their actual anatomicbody, the way that they were in
utero, will not be present andso it'll be artificial.
So, no matter what, they'realways going to have hearing
loss.
Isn't that so weird to thinkabout?

Speaker 2 (08:31):
So I feel like you just made up words there.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
You're like acoustics of your ear is so specific to
you that that's how you'rehearing, if we try and create it
, it doesn't go so well, yes,worse.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah Well better, but still hearing loss.
It worse than would be it worsethan could be Worse than would
be if ear there beginning.
Yes, this we need short.
Why use big words Worse thanwould be better than ears when
you?

Speaker 3 (08:58):
use three words a trick?
Yeah, exactly, exactly, sosuper cool.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
What if you're born with just like out, without the
outside of the ear and you justhave like that?
You have everything else themiddle ear, the inner ear, all
that stuff yeah, the canal, solike you can still hear.
Is your hearing differentbecause you don't have these
little catchers for like thesound?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
it's probably like slightly different.
Your canal is really what's theimportant thing, because that
conducts the sound, so like ifcatching the ear, great sound
can go in.
And they do make artificialears, like they'll make one, not
like made from.
I don't think they have yetmade like human ones, because I
know like they're growing themon the backs of rats.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
I've seen that I was going to ask about that.
Is that like that's a thing?

Speaker 3 (09:41):
right, like they're just like we grow ears.
Yeah, and I'm like is that evergoing to be transferred?

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Look up Google ear on back of rat, that's.
It'll pop up, I'm sure, ordon't?
I don't blame you if you don't.
No, do it.
I say do it.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Ear on back of rat.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Ear on back of rat.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I'm positive we'll bring up an ear growing on the
back of a rack.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, it's crazy.
I don't know if they can figureout how to attach the ear like
capillary wise because, it iscartilage and I don't know if
that's also going to be like arejection, because there are
organs that do get rejected.
But your ear canal if you haveyour canal with the grooves in
it that are normal, you couldprobably get a prosthetic ear.
That's just like.
It's mostly just like kind ofreally tough.

(10:29):
I feel like that would workright, like they have like stuff
that's.
I think it would be better.
I don't know if it'd be perfect.
I haven't.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
I've yet to have a kid that has a, a no ear, but
canal, oh really.
So that's like super rarely noear.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, I usually get no ear completely, which is
atresia.
Or I get my crocia, which issmall ear, or a notion is also
what they call it atresia.
Or I get microtia, which issmall ear, or anosha is also
what they call it atresia anosha, interesting so.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
But if your ear just got like lopped off, like you
were back in like witch trialdays, and they're like if we
chop off your ear, you're awitch or whatever right, like
whatever they came up with, thenthey're like oh, we chopped off
something like that.
I don't think it was any moresophisticated.
That's exactly how it worked.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, I don't think it was.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah, something I don't know, and then we throw it
in a well and you have to diveand get it.
But so like yeah, you wouldstill.
But like yeah, I was just kindof curious, like it does, like
the ear, I feel like the outerear does something to like catch
the sound.
Right, I feel like if I didn'thave it, I feel like I'd be able
to hear things behind me betterbecause I have these ears

(11:26):
pointing forward and now I feellike I'd be able to hear better
going backwards.
That's my dumb, stupid brain, Imean yes and no.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Sound travels still behind you.
Where it would hit your ear.
It would just then get cut,essentially because the waves
come in but they still go inward, so they travel in this space.
That is like sound presence.
And then it's omni, so it goesall the way around and then
bounces off of walls or whateverpath was there in its path.

(11:54):
So it'll still exponentiallygrow to where it finally hits
into your ear after it gets cutoff by that back of the ear.
But the most of the time, thewhy, I think I mean, I don't
know, we'll have to ask whoevercreated the ear.
You know, but it shouldn't betoo hard to track down.

(12:15):
You know just whoever.
Whoever's wanted to do that andthank you for our ears, but
whoever like if when it hits.
I think a reason why we haveour ears facing this way is
because of background noise.
It's because we don'tnecessarily conversations human
conversations happen in front ofus.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Right, exactly.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
And so anything that matters is in front.
Well they used to happen infront of us.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Now you got so many people talking behind your back.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Ooh, got them.
That's a subtweet.
I don't know who it's about,but you got subtweeted.
Dang, that was.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
That was cutthroat are they still tweets?
Are they exes?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
now, I'm so out of I have no idea who's gonna say
sub-x'd I don't know like Idon't even know if it's nobody,
I, I, I I'm not in that world,no clue.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Um, yeah, so okay.
And then like I don't know, Ihave no question with this, but
like I've seen um like mmafighters, they get like
cauliflower ear and then like Ihave no question that's.
I just want to bring that up, Ijust want to say that and then,
yeah, whatever you what, whatare your thoughts on cauliflower
ear?

Speaker 3 (13:16):
so keloids are usually from trauma.
So if you especially like evenpiercings, if you get a piercing
and it was a traumatic piercingwhich can be like a needle that
was blunt or they like didn'tstab you fast enough, or like X,
y, z, a lot of things canhappen and some people are more
prone to keloids than others.
But it's this trauma tissuethat just grows and it grows and
grows and grows.
Sometimes it'll eventually stopgrowing and like just be stuck

(13:38):
as a lump.
So most of the time cauliflowerear is because of trauma.
It's this massive hit and thecells are now trying to heal and
then it gets this gushy, nastylooking thing.
But then when they try to cutit off because it's scar tissue
underneath all of the skin, itthen creates another keloid
because it's trying to regrowagain it's a hydra of ear it
basically ruins the pattern.

(13:59):
It's like I don't know how togrow anymore.
What do I do?

Speaker 1 (14:03):
when it just becomes nasty it's an ear hydra.
That's strange.
So your recommendation is notto get punched in the head
repeatedly yeah, don't do thatwear the little like protective
ear thing that they ears drag onthe mat where it's just like,
and it just like tears it, oh,it's just yeah, don't get left
hooked straight to the ear.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Not great, not a good one, but just get your ear
bitten off oh, honestly okay,but let's be kind of real for a
second.
Would that be kind of sick tohave one ear with like a chunk
bitten out of?

Speaker 1 (14:34):
it, it'll be a story think.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Think like comic book teeth mark chunk out of an ear.
That would be kind of cool.
And there are body like modsnow where people are taking out
the concha of their ear, whichis like the bowl, and they're
taking it out.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
So it's see-through and it is weird that one I'm not
sure about, but that is a thingI wouldn't do any of the crazy
body modification stuff, but Ialways find it fascinating
Somebody else do it.
So I can see what it would looklike.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yes, yes, no same.
I stuff, but I always find itfascinating like somebody else
do it, so I can see what itwould look like.
Yes, yes, no same.
I also want to know how likeyou function, like the people
who get the full cut out oftheir bottom lip and they can
like they put a plug in and thenthey can, like pop it out and
then put their tongue through.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Okay, I think I have seen that, but I'm like how do
you, how do you eat?

Speaker 3 (15:21):
how do you drink food like oh yeah, I like you know
what do you have to take it outand clean it after that's what
I'm wondering.
I don't know you'd have toright, because what if it gets
like stuck in there?
We need a lip doctor after thisyes, oh, you guys should do a
body parts like series, whereit's ears, eyes, nose, head,

(15:41):
shoulders, knees and toes,everything oh, so tell us.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Oh, have you seen the photos?

Speaker 3 (15:45):
where they have like.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
So you know, obviously you have like
piercings and then you have thegauges or whatever, like the big
circles they make in theearlobe.
There's the ones that are likemassive right, they just keep
growing, Like if you've everseen them.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
They're like the size of a dinner plate and they're
huge.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
It's nuts, so the ear just keeps growing like the ear
lobe will just grow more.
Yeah, it's just they're juststretching it.
So okay, here my mind's messedwith this.
Like is it growing?
Is the?
Is the amount of cartilage thesame after they've done that and
it's just stretched, or isthere more cartilage that was
made?

Speaker 3 (16:20):
No, it's the same, because it was just stretched,
because your skin is the onethat's stretching.
There's no like tissue in there, like there is, but there's not
like.
There's no like really.
I mean there's blood andcapillaries, but like there's
nothing, it's just fat, ok, soit's just like it.
As it stretches, it juststretches all the fat and the
skin and just stretches it's,but it's wild how far they can

(16:42):
stretch you, I mean you can't gofrom like teeny tiny hole to
like dinner plate.
You have to like take time to dothat.
But yeah, that's a real thing.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Immediately, let me try, let's see what happens Bam.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Just shove it in there.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
No, I'm saying like the fact that you can even do it
over time is crazy.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
It is nuts.
Yeah, it's crazy yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
And then do it all over again.
That's how you like prestige.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
And then they like take their skin.
They make weapons out of it,start making whips.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Whip it.
So what's up with ears Likethere's like the outer ear and
then there's like the middle earand I remember Okay, listen,
going back to like school days,so there's like bones and
there's like a stapes, there'sthe stapes.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
That's a bone.
Another bone that's a bone,don't forget there's a hole.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Where's the hole?

Speaker 3 (17:26):
on the side of your head oh, that one.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Okay, yeah right, I forgot about that one so then.
But then you have this.
There's the stapes, and onestarts with a P an incus, an
incus, you have the incus,malleus and your stapes yeah
malleus.
Okay, no, I only remember thestapes.
For some reason the stapes juststicks with me.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
But the other ones Because it's the smallest bone
in your body.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Oh, is that?
That's probably why it is small, because it's like a test on a
quiz or whatever Like what's thesmallest bone?

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah, it's like that's the trivia answer.
Yeah, it's the stapes.
Yeah, it not even taking uplike a percentage of it, it's
like almost like as small aslike the tip of your finger.
It's nuts.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
It's so tiny.
So yeah, when I asked like thesmallest bone, I'm like do I
pick the real answer or do Imake a dick joke, Because both
are just phenomenal answers.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
You're like aww, dang it.
Why are we asking about it?

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Everyone's always asking, I quit, I made it all
this way and I'm done now.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, gosh, stop making jokes about it.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Okay, listen, listen.
Bones vibrate against or around, because sound is waves of
things.
Yes, sound waves and they hitthose bones and those vibrate,
yes, and that makes sound thatbrain understand.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
That's pretty much all I got.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
It's really cool if you want to know, like the big
answer.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Well, like the water down big answer yeah, yeah, we
need like the yeah cavemananswer hit eardrum, your drum.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yes, the three bones boop, boop, boop, also vibrate
and they work kind of like amechanism that vibrates like um,
like an, an angle, if thatmakes sense, like a what's the
word I'm looking for?
But yeah, they move essentiallyto the sound.
Now what's cool about this isthat it also matches intensity.
So if it's a little sound, theymove just a little bit.

(19:14):
If it's a big sound, they movea lot.
Really cool.
The state bees is set into thistiny little area in your inner
ear.
So your inner ear is actuallybone, it's part of your skull
that has fluid inside of it andit has endo-lymph and para-lymph
Super cool.
And it creates these waves.
You have these hair cells, youhave a lot of rows, you have

(19:34):
inner hair cells and outer haircells.
Your hair cells, when theyrespond to these waves, will
move and it's called beingsheared, but that's like extra
stuff you don't need to know.
So they move right and theysend these pulses or this
information up the auditorynerve into your brain stem all
the way to your brain to getunderstood.

(19:54):
So it's these pulses and theselike essentially like they're
not really electric currents,but they're just like
information as it sends up.
Now, when we do like hearingtests, we look at every specific
frequency, so like we look at500 Hertz, 2000 Hertz, 4,000
Hertz, 8,000 Hertz, et cetera.
And so as the sound travels, solet's say, cause your, your low

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frequencies are at the apex ofyour ear, your high frequencies
are at the base.
And so as these high frequency,or as this frequency comes in,
if it hits the base, which is ahigh frequency, weird, because
it's backwards I know It'll allmake sense though in a minute
when it hits the base and itvibrates, it's not going to go
up higher, so the wave onlystops at the specific frequency

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that the resonance hits, soweird.
So then, if it's 500 hertz,which the out at the top of the
ear, it has to go in yourcochlea, which is like a little
snail, goes all the way up tothe apex and then resonates
there and then it sendsinformation in, so cool say more
about this top and bottomsituation high frequency and low
frequency yeah, so your base,so your your cochlea.

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That looks like a snail shell.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yes, I remember that.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
The apex, low frequency, the bottom high
frequency, and your nerve, whichis your auditory nerve, is also
something called tonotopicallyorganized, so it has high
frequencies.
It's like a bundle.
It has high frequencies on theoutside, low frequencies on the
inside.
As you lose your hearing whenyou get older or you go to

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concerts, all that stuff, whatis the first like bunch of
frequencies that you lose?
You start to lose highfrequencies, so damage happens
at the bottom first or on theoutside of the bundle, which is
really cool.
And so when a lot of people thatare like I hear you, I just
can't understand you becausehigh frequencies resonate in

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things like S's, like S highfrequency or a SH high frequency
, T, T, T, also high frequency,they start losing that clarity
and they're like I can hear you,I just can't understand you
because low frequencies arevowels, like mm.
Buh, ooh, uh.
So it's really cool to see whenyou start thinking about what

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hits first for the ear or theinner ear or the nerve, and how
that also resonates or alsoapplies to your hearing tests
and how you understandcommunication is just like wild
to think about, because you'relike damage here equals damage
here.
When, like you visualize thegraph of a hearing test, which

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equals why you can't understandspeech or why you can't
communicate as well.
It's like all connected andreally freaking cool.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
So, okay, I know that , like, as you get older, though
, you're able to like heardifferent frequencies.
Like, isn't it, like you know,a five-year-old can hear a
frequency that someone who's 75can't hear?
Is that because, like the, the,the bones are getting like
hardened or something like that?
What's up with the?
What's going on with the bonesin there?

Speaker 3 (22:59):
You can have something called oh my gosh,
it's not osteoporosis.
Hold on, it's where your bonesfixate.
Oh my gosh, I know this, holdon.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
We have it happen all the time Osteofixation.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
No.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
I'm going to cheat Hold on Such a cheater.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
I remember there was little things.
You could play something and itwould play a frequency, Can you
?

Speaker 3 (23:28):
hear this Otosclerosis.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Otosclerosis, there we go.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
So yeah, otosclerosis is where your bones fuse, but
that would cause conductivehearing loss, not sensory neural
, because it's not a part ofyour organ of hearing, which is
your inner ear or your nerve,because sound can't conduct
through.
So once it hits the eardrum thebones don't move, but whatever
gets to the inner ear still cantravel.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
So that's why old people know here so well ear
still can travel.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
So that's why old people know here so well.
Old people here know so wellbecause of genetics, because
they listen to noise a lot, andit's it's not like noise
exposure, isn't like.
One time I went to a car shopand like was in there for 20
minutes and now I have hearingloss.
It is your entire life of noiseexposure.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Oh, so if me no hear anything until 75, ear still
perfect, sound still good.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
If you have normal hearing now good, keep normal
hearing wear, hearing protection.
Got it so you can hear at 75.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
But if me no hear anything for 40 years still
hearing as good now, why dodon't hear anything for 40 years
, still hearing as good now?

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Why do you not hear anything for 40 years?
I think he means if he's notgetting the noise.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
If.
I'm not getting any noise forlike 40 years.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Then you're probably good, but you probably do have
some hearing loss.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I'm sure I do.
My headphones are always likeyou're listening too loud.
I'm like stupid technologydoesn't know me.
Yes, I Like you're listeningtoo loud.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
I'm like stupid technology doesn't know me.
I will say that I grew up in,like you know, the manly man
area.
No one wears a hearingprotection.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
No one does.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
No one does.
And I can't emphasize it enoughIf you're working with tools,
wear hearing protection.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Because that high impact noise can do a lot of
things.
One, like I said, if youreardrum vibrates the same as the
loudness level around you loudyou're using that tool for 20,
30, 40 minutes.
And that time is also a factorin it.
So it's like loudness levelover time equals noise exposure.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
So if I go to like a concert or like a stadium or
something super loud, like onetime, not so bad, like could be
bad.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Because your ears can recover.
So there is a recovery period.
You do have something called atemporary threshold shift and
that's where, I'm sure, afterconcerts, you get home, you lay
in bed and it's like and you'relike, well, that concert was so
good, I can like not hearanything, it's nuts.
And then the next morningyou're fine.
That is a temporary thresholdshift.
So you go to the concert, youhave a shift, and then when you

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sleep and recover, your ear goesback into normal and that's the
hope.
But that damage is still therebecause your hair cells can't
heal.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
What's damaged is there.
I have some hearing loss in myright ear because of growing up
working with tools and stuff andnot being around people who
stressed the importance ofhearing protection and, oh yeah,
I started, of course, wearingit since, like my 30s, I've
never worn protection.
That's why you have a child,liam that's luckily, it's only

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one.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
It's amazing that it happened that way it's because
you figured out the pulloutmethod.
Good for you, buddy.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
We're so proud of you .
You always have to have abackup.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Liam's like shoot, how do you pull out again?

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Oh no Damn, all right .

Speaker 2 (27:01):
And that was how Oakley was born.
You were.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
I want to ask something because my ears suck
ass when I go on the plane, likeso bad.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Like they hurt.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
They are.
They not only like hurt duringthe like flight.
It makes me not want to takeflights Mostly.
The main reason I don't takeflights is because of the
hearing.
Like it hurts on the plane forsure, and if I have a layover,
fuck it Like if I'm getting backon the plane.
It's the way I went to Jamaicaand I had a layover and the

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entire day after I got there Icould hear basically nothing.
Like people had to shout intomy ear, yeah, and like it was.
I hate it.
What do I?
How make ear less dumb?

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Okay.
So when you fly okay, here'syour eardrum, this is, it's
going to make sense.
So your eardrum, when itvibrates, it moves back and
forth, right, it's like woohoo,it does a little dance Like a
worm.
When you fly, you have a tinytube.
So if this is your outer earand this is your middle ear, you
have a tiny tube that connectsto your throat, called a

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eustachian tube.
Your eustachian tube should beopening and closing to change
pressure.
So, like you know how, if youguys ever swim, you go down.
If you like scuba dive, youhave to like do the nose thing
so that there's pressure thatgoes into your middle ear.
That's the same thing.
So when you fly and you go up,and you're going up even though

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the cabin itself is pressurized,the pressure changes and so
your ear.
What happens is it goes likethis For those listening fingers
go backwards.
It goes, we're in negativepressure, so it goes in towards
your nose.
So normally when they can kindof like kind of dance and move
back and forth, it goes and itgets stuck.
So it gets pulled in towardsyour nose and that's called

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negative pressure and negativepressure is so painful.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
It sucks, I hate like it's just the worst.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
The worst If you push air into your like.
It's called a valsalva whereyou like.
Hold your nose and you blow.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Hold your nose and, you like, try and breathe out,
basically.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Like it helps a little bit.
It'll push it where it goes,but it's still not equalized
because it doesn't have enoughof a time, I guess, to equalize
back, or it'll always pullyourself in, and having your
eardrum in a negative pressurewill also give you hearing loss,
but again conductive hearingloss, because it's all about

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your eardrum or your middle earsor your middle ear, so that's
where you're probably like Ican't hear because you have.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Negative pressure Generally doesn't lead to like
long-term hearing loss, goinglike on a plane and having that
happen.
Okay.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Nah, you can use.
So I have like sinus issues.
I've realized now that I'vegotten older, probably because I
stuck my finger so far up mynose that now it's like all
damaged up in there, but like mysinuses right here.
When I fly I get this likebulging pain that I think I'm
going to die and I think it's anair bubble trying to like move

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and pressurize, but it can'tbecause my sinuses are so small,
and so I've been taking like anasal spray because it opens up
everything, and then I take likean antihistamine so that it
like really like openseverything up.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Okay.
And it helps a ton.
Would that help with ears?
Yeah, because your eustachiantube will open.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Do you guys ever have moments where you like yawn and
you can hear your own voice?

Speaker 1 (30:25):
that is your eustachian tube opening do you
take the nasal spray after, likewhen you land, before?
Oh, before.
So you take it before you geton the flight and then like an
antihistamine or something.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
That might help, because it'll take all my
swelling out of my face.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
I might have to try that, because I hate flying,
because of that.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, it's great.
So if I don't have this problem, do you think it's because I
either have a giant hole in myear, or could it be an
adaptation, because I amconstantly?
I grew up in a valley, so I wasconstantly changing altitude
throughout my life.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah, it could just be your anatomy, so like your
eustachian tube is part bone,part muscle, and so the muscle
might just be really good atopening and closing, and that's
great.
You also might not have smallsinuses Again great.
So you are able to have a goodlike change of pressure that
your body can do on its own.
So that's like good.

(31:23):
Yeah, some people don't.
Some people have what's calledeustachian tube dysfunction and
their eustachian tube is closed,so tight that, no matter what,
it will not open, and they haveto go get like a balloon put in
it and like moved, essentiallyCause you can't like work out
your eustachian tube and likeopen and close it for practice.
But yeah, they'll like dilateit and stuff which is super wild

(31:44):
, and they'll like do a wholenasal scope.
That I don't do.
I'm not ear, nose and throatLike I don't, but I watch it
because I think it's cool.
And sometimes they do it beforewe do hearing tests.
So like I get to like be in theroom and be like, wow, look at
that, that's so great.
And then I do my portion.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
I was going to ask what the difference is between
an audiologist and anotolaryngologist.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Oh, otolaryngologist yeah, so an otolaryngologist is
ENT.
They are an MD, but theyspecialized in ear, nose and
throat, so they have their 12years of school plus a specialty
, which is fantastic.
I love ENTs, I applaud ENTs.
They're amazing.
They do so much more than Iever want to do.
And then audiologists we are.

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You can have an undergrad inother things, like I have
someone who did psychology andthen went into audiology, but
mine was a four yearcommunication and science
disorders uh, bachelor's andthen I went into my grad school,
which was my doctorate of threeyears and then a fourth year,
clinical.
So that's kind of where mydoctorate comes from.
Some people will also do PhDswhile they're in school for

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audiology, which I think isgreat.
I would love to go back and getmy PhD.
We'll see if, like time slash,money is allowing for that
because school is expensive.
But I would love if, like, myjob was like hey, yeah, you want
to do your PhD in tinnitus orin pediatrics, 100% go get it.
And I'd be like okay, because Ialso love research.

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I think research is really funand I think there's a lot of
stuff coming out that's reallyinteresting, that I would love
to just be a part of andparticipate in, but money is
also a factor for PhDs.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
I have another question Me when spin get dizzy
that cuz PhDs.
I have another question Me whenspin get dizzy that cuz yes and
hairs.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yeah, so you have three semicircular canals in
your ear.
That's your vestibular system.
Well, your vestibular system isactually a lot.
You have a somatosensory systemwhich is like your touch and
feel.
It also includes, like youreyes, so like vision, like
sometimes people who can't see,like if the lights are off, they
get dizzy because they're sobad.
A sensory system is off andthey're like.

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So you have like a bunch ofcomponents that make up your
balance.
So one you could have a poorlike something within your
semicircular canals, where it'sreally sensitive to movement,
because you have canals that goforward, backward, up and down
and then like in space to keepyourself upright, because they
want to have this level of fluid.

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That's like where it needs tobe and that's where it like
stays at its neutral.
And then when you move, it'llmove depending on which way that
you start moving.
And so that's why when, like,you spin in your chair and you
like stop immediately and youwatch your eyes tick, that's
because the fluid in your innerear is still moving, thinking
that you're moving wild, supercool.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
So, yeah, if you get really dizzy when you spin, like
almost to where you're like I'mgetting kind of nauseous you
probably have a really sensitivelike vestibular system which is
okay fine I see, like I saw anepisode of mythbusters where
they had like this nauseamachine where it basically spin
them around in circles and backand forth and they wear this
thing on their head and, likesome of them, would just like

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throw up immediately and otherones would be, like you know you
know pretty, you know dizzy andwhatever, but not too bad some
people are very, very touchydoes that go along with
seasickness?
Why seasickness?

Speaker 3 (35:10):
yeah, yeah, yeah, because they don't feel balanced
and like the horizon line ismoving and they're moving, so
like everything's kind of movingin their vision and they're
like I'm also moving because Ifeel myself move and there's
nothing like flat to make melike look at and has no movement
.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
So I'm constantly moving and then they're moving
and the water's moving and so,yeah, so the reason I like
spinny rides at amusement parksand being on the water is the
same reason.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yes, how medication helped that how?

Speaker 3 (35:38):
is the anti-seasickness.
Oh, they just.
They do like a sedative.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Oh, is that all?
It is?

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yeah they're like sedatives, because I've seen
like the anti-nausea stuff andI'm like how would that work?
There is actual likeanti-nausea meds that you can
take.
I think Zofran is one of them.
Okay, I can remember thatbefore I totally-.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
And so there's different ones.
There's one that's just kind oflike-.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Zofran like anti-nausea, and then there's
one that's just kind of moresedative.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
There's one that I wish I could remember Hold on.
Is it called meclizine?
Meclizine, yeah, meclizine isgreat because they also do
motion sickness, but they alsoare used for people who have
vestibular systems that arereally sensitive.
They'll give them meclizine.
So like, if you wake up justdizzy and you're like, well, I
just feel like I'm so dizzy, theroom is spinning constantly,
people will give meclizine.

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The hard part is is that thateventually, just either it over
time kind of wears out on youwhere it is not as effective
anymore, um, or that's just likeyour life and it kind of sucks.
So yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Well, I want to.
I do want to ask, especiallybefore we go, like how people uh
, protect ears.
How, like you know, how do wesave what, what?
What tips do we have?
I'm assuming use q-tips on yourears, like that's what we're
supposed to do?

Speaker 3 (36:52):
shove the q-tips.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
I always am told don't use q-tips here.
I'm like you're not the boss ofme, like I.
It's like it gets rid of stuffin there.
I like it can.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
It can also push it back.
So like, if you have like yourearwax and you try to scoop it
and try, to push it, you're likeit's not, it's gonna just go
deeper in, which is fine.
Earwax isn't really that big ofa deal, like if you get
impactions.
Yeah it's a big deal, but youhave to be producing a ton, a
ton of wax and also have likesmall ears where it can't get

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out.
Um, or, if you like, always putsomething internal in your ear
like headphones that go reallyfar in your ear.
Sometimes that can causeimpactions, but most of the time
it comes out when you're likein the shower and your body's
heating up, because it is likean oil-based substance.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Oh, so sauna help.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yeah, oh yeah, that'll heat that right up.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
And so you can like put a little towel on your ear
and wiggle it and it'll beawesome.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Oh, you're just another excuse to have a hot
bath yeah, yep, you're candlingbad right, is your candling not
real?
Not real, that's right.
Because, okay, if you haven'tseen like they put, they tilt
their head and they put a candlein their ear and then they
light the candle and the wholeidea is it like draws something
out of the ear and then theyshow it at the end, like look at
all this wax.
I'm like that's from thegoddamn candle that was burning
Like no shit.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
It's from the inside, because it'll like fall into
itself and then it'll be likewhoa and I'm like no.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
That's just the candle.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
But if it makes you feel good, fantastic I guess
Candle your ear or whatever.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Oh, I remember in Family Guy they're like trying
to protect their virginity orwhatever, so they start having
ear sex.
And then there's like a line init.
That's like he says there's anew trend starting Once you go
black, you go deaf.
Any thoughts on that one?
Or like?

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Don't come in the ear .
I feel like that's not supersanitary.
I have yet to find cum.
Trying to think what else Ifound an acorn, I found an orgy.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
I found play-doh.
I found a pencil.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
I haven't found a bug yet.
I'm still waiting on that.
I know what's coming for me,but I haven't.
I've yet to see a bug, but no,I found some weird stuff in the
ear a couple of times that I'mlike what is that?

Speaker 1 (39:02):
and I'm sure it's not as bad as like what's in
people's butts, but like likethere's definitely got to be
some stuff, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
No, because you can't put a full car in your butt.
I mean sorry, you can't put afull car in your ear, but you
can't put a full car in your ear.
You've seen those x-rays.
People are like where's a toycar in my butt?

Speaker 1 (39:15):
And I'm like I fell on it.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Or they're like just crawled right in there.
That's cool.
But have I found cocaine?
Oh, not.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yet I have seen cerebral spinal fluid leak out
of an ear.
That was wild.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
That, oh, that is really yeah, because someone was
hitting his head, because hewas like having to.
So, to be fair, he was aprisoner, so like they'll come
in to do hearing tests if theyhave like concerns, and he would
simulate himself by hitting hishead against the wall.
And he would simulate himselfby hitting his head against the
wall and he hit his head so hardthat he had a temporal bone
fracture and then it leaked hiscerebral spinal fluid in his ear

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wow, I was like that's probablyreally important.
You probably need that.
I don't know how much your bodyhas of that.
Does it?
Does it reproduce?
Do I need to be worried?
What is that?

Speaker 1 (40:04):
so yeah, that was fun I have seen ones where like a
bug would crawl into someone'sear and then like hatch or what,
like it was like a little oneand it would get bigger and then
it would be like it would have,like it would be like trying to
fly in their ear and they thinkthey're like crazy or whatever,
like on those medical shows.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Oh yeah, that happens Like people will get.
Like eardrum protects yourinner ear, so like they're not
gonna go anywhere.
You know what I mean.
But like I have seen or I haveheard of people getting bugs in
their ear, mostly cockroachesnot the big ones, but the baby
and they say like it sounds likea helicopter taking off in
their head and it's like the bugtrying to actually like move
yeah, or that scratches them,which is disgusting about 13 of

(40:41):
our audience is gonna havenightmares tonight yeah,
everyone's gonna have to startscratching their ears.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
I'd rather have the ear sex.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Yeah, I'd rather have someone cum in my ear than a
cockroach in it.
I'm not going to lie, that'sactually an open invitation, I
mean if HeroX can make it out,oh God, if the Ear Factor comes
to me and says cum or acockroach.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
I'm suffer in their tents in their 38th season.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
God damn man.
They have to mix it up.
It's all.
It's all snakes.
They're like there's my lifegone yeah, he's like.
You know we're gonna do nowcome, I'm like sick oh nice, we
also need to talk about umtinier.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
You guys call it, you can call it tinnitus, you can
call it tinnitus, I'm gonna callit tinier oh look, I like it
actually, that's pretty, it'spretty good, that's gonna catch
on.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
So tinnitus is actually can call it tinnitus,
I'm going to call it tinnier.
Oh look, I like it actually,that's pretty, it's pretty good,
that's going to catch on.
So tinnitus is actually psycho.
Well, it depends, it's not,it's not all psychosomatic, but
like there are some things thatwhen you hear this ring in your
ear that no one else can hearsometimes it does it's a
precursor to hearing loss,because your brain so badly
wants to help you hear in yourenvironment that it goes.

(41:48):
Well, I'll just create whatsounds you would hear.
And you're like great brain,but you can't predict what
sounds are going to be in myenvironment.
They're random, it'sspontaneous.
But your brain's like no, look,I'm helping, I'm helping, see,
like here's the sound thatyou're missing.
And then our lymphatic systemthat controls like a lot of our
emotions is like oh, what isthis?

(42:11):
Because they don't talk to eachother, they're not on good
terms, you know, they're an exLong story.
So your brain's like I'm doingthis thing and your lymphatic
system is like no, what is this?
And it starts raising alarmsand you start getting anxiety
and you start to be like what'sthe sound?
What's the sound?
What is that?
Do anyone else hear that?
It's just me.
What do you mean?
It's just me, I'm the only onethat hears that.

(42:33):
But it's so loud.
Why is it so loud?
And then you start to get soanxious and it starts to become
such a big deal that it cannotbe ignored, and so that's how
people start losing sleep overit or are like I can't hear,
Like it's so loud that I justcan't hear over it.
And so what you really have todo, there's a couple of
different therapies that peoplehave done.

(42:53):
One of them is trying low gainhearing aids Should you have
hearing loss, because if youactually hear in your
environment, your brain doesn'thave to pretend to make a sound
for you.
Or if you have normal hearingand you and a hearing aid is not
going to help you, they'll do alot of distraction techniques.
So they'll be like, hey, youhear this sound, great, I want
you to do something else.

(43:14):
Distract yourself, listen tomusic, put some white noise on,
go do the dishes, like whateveryou need to do, to just have
yourself for a second.
Forget about it, because if youdon't focus on it, you won't
hear it or it won't be perceived, and so they do a lot of that,
which is pretty fun.
And then some other thingsthey'll do is they'll actually
measure it, which is really cool.
So like if you came in andyou're like, oh, it's a high

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pitch noise, I'll find on myaudiometer, which is how we play
sounds, I'll find the exactpitch and then I'll try to match
the intensity and thensometimes showing you where the
intensity is on your audiogram,which is like your hearing,
versus where your actual hearingis, can sometimes have people
be like, oh, it's not that bad,because usually it's only about

(43:56):
if anything perceived to beabout 5 to 10 dB louder than
your actual threshold of hearing.
So it's actually not that loud,but people think it because
it's so.
It's so right there and I hearit.
It's super interesting.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
So somebody that might listen to a lot of loud
music and develops tinier theymight.
It's just the brain being likeoh, I'm used to hearing all this
loud music, so I'm just goingto create the sound and it might
help them to just put somewhite noise on in the background
.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Oh yeah, a hundred percent.
But like if again, going backto like noise exposure your
whole life to really make surethat you're not going to have
tinnitus, you're not going tohave hearing loss, you're not
going to have to wear a hearingaid, you have to, like,
essentially, keep your volume ata certain level.
And there's like some researchthat's like if you do it at 60
dB, which is like normalconversation level, for two

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hours you're in the safe zone.
If you do it at 80 dB, okay,that time cuts in half.
Now it's like an hour.
90 dB, it's 30 minutes and it'slike it'll really show you at
what point, if you have thesound this loud, where it starts
to become the duration becomesthe issue, and so that's like
something I would highlyrecommend looking into, just

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because obviously that'simportant to protect your
hearing.
And then bone conduction hearingaids, which are kind of the new
things where you see peoplehave them, where it's like the
little thing that like curlsaround their heads and like sits
in front of their ears.
Your eardrum actually helpsstop high impact sound from
coming into your inner ear, itprotects it.
So bone conduction devices orbone conduction hearing aids,

(45:32):
because it vibrates your skull.
It goes straight to the innerear because of the ways and how
the waves work and how soundworks.
So you can't like you.
I highly recommend not usingbone conduction hearing aids
because everyone's like, well, Ican hear other people talk
while I'm listening and I waslike that's great, but if you
play that sound loud enough,it's going to directly impact

(45:55):
your inner ear and then that'swhere you're going to get
hearing loss.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Good to know so interesting you got any other
ones like that.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
You want people to know.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
No, oh, don't use Q-tips, but what about pulsatile
?

Speaker 1 (46:08):
tinnitus, don't put things in your ear, basically.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Oh, pulsatile, pulsatile tinnitus is really
interesting.
So pulsatile tinnitus actuallycomes from.
You have a couple of nerves notnerves, I'm so sorry.
You have a couple of veinswithin your ear no-transcript.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
I will get pulsatile tin ear Interesting.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
But that's just to shift my position.
And then it's good.
Yeah, yep, so you might have avein that just drops down a
little bit low, interesting,interesting.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
What do you put in your ear?
Nothing, Nothing okay, don'tput anything in your ear what?

Speaker 3 (47:09):
uh, water in ears sometimes get stuck.
What, what that?
Oh, that's because water islike you know how molecules like
to hold together, so if it hitsyour eardrum it'll just stay on
your eardrum oh, and you can'tget it off because it's like so
you put a q-tip in there to dryit no, so you just shake your
head or you do a low, low, uhhair dryer, not on hot, low hair
dryer, they'll take it rightout.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Interesting about using a hair dryer.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Yeah, yeah, I usually just tilt the head and go dunk,
dunk, dunk yeah, just knock itoff, it's fine, it'll little,
it'll drop out okay, yeah so thething that we do in the movies,
that's actually like whatyou're supposed to do with weird
yeah, because it knocks it out.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yeah, every time I see something like I'm like oh,
that's bullshit, like you're notactually supposed to do
something like that.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
This is like the one time real movies are always
everything you say, everything,everything you see in movies is
real duh spiderman exists, so Iknew it I knew it um yep,
anything else you want to tellpeople about their ears,
protecting their ears, somethingcool about their ear, anything
you got.
Oh, in-ear monitors, I think,are great because they do if you

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get ones that are custom, so anaudiologist can do ear mold
impressions for you and you canget custom in-ear monitors.
You obviously still don't wantto play them loudly, but they
are really comfortable and great.
For people who do have problemswith, like, headphones holding
onto their ears or their earsget too hot or like after a
while, their ears hurt, earmonitors are great.
You can ask an audiologist toget you some ear mold
impressions and you just sendthem off to a company and

(48:37):
they'll make custom in-ears foryou, which is awesome, and
that's the same for, like,hearing protection.
You can also have customhearing protection too, and they
do filters for concerts, whichare really cool, so you can like
have custom ones that, likespecifically for music you can
use.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
That's kind of a problem.
I have TMJ deviation, so if Ihave something in ear and I'm
talking, it just pops out.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
You can do it where they do.
They have a block that you biteand then they do the earmold
impression, although I'mcomfortable with the over year
stuff.
Yeah, some people.
Yeah, which?

Speaker 1 (49:12):
is great.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Some people aren't so like, yeah, there's just like a
cool tidbit, but yeah, ears areweird, ears are so cool, it's
so cool.
Well, if people want to knowmore, about ears or a weird?

Speaker 1 (49:20):
you know just basic gaming.
Where could they find you?

Speaker 3 (49:24):
oh my gosh, please.
All my socials are the same.
It's doctor.
No, I'm just kidding.
It's not um.
It's average girl gamesanywhere um instagram, tiktok,
twitch, you know any of those?

Speaker 2 (49:36):
and if you're watching on on twitch, turn her
down.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
She's very I am very loud, and the reason for that is
because I want people who arehard of hearing to be able to
hear me and understand mebecause I am so loud.
I think it's also comes from myjob, because I talked to a lot
of kids that are deaf and hardof hearing, and I also use sign
language as well.
I studied that ever since highschool and have continued to

(50:01):
study it through college and Ilove, love, love that community,
but I will, uh, I have closedcaptioning.
And then also, because I'm atmy job all the time, I'm really,
really loud, and so I think itjust transfers over into that.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Well, you're also very high energy, so it kind of
translates into that too, yeah,yeah, it's a very very high
energy stream.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
What's being high energy like?
I've never experienced thatbefore.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
It's a lot.
Actually it's a lot.
I'm kind of like the uh, what'sthe bunny?

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Energizer bunny.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
The energizer bunny, yeah, where I'm like go, go, go,
go go.
And then, as soon as I go tobed, I'm like gone.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
I feel like that sells our age People go into
your stream to get hyped up andthey go into my stream to take a
nap.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Exactly, which is good.
They need the balance becausethey're probably like I can't
handle this today.
I'm overstimulated, I got to goto Rob.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
I'm like, yeah, please do Rob will put me to
sleep.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Hey, there's people that take naps to my channel.
What can I say?
Yeah, fair.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Well, cool beans yeah .

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Thanks for having me on you good oh, oh.
And before we go, before we go.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Liam doesn't know this yet.
Liam, guess what chicken buttexactly?
Okay, have a good nighteverybody.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
As of last week, as of last week, we hit 500 000
listens.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Oh, let's go.
That's half a million.
I know math, you know math,know Not a little bit Sometimes.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
That's so cool, just before our we're, we're also,
we're also on episode 96.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Cheese, so you know what?

Speaker 2 (51:33):
500,000 listens.
That's close to 69.
I'll take it.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
It's funny, you say 69.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
We went for the longest time.
We were like 69 plus seven, 69plus 14.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
And then we kind of lost track and gave up on it,
just like all the other.
Counting we've done.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
It is now 96.
That's actually my favoriteposition is butt to butt, so
it's perfect.
Yeah, that's great actually.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
It's not wang to ear.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Wang to ear.
Wang to ear?
Nope, not yet.
I'm going to try that tonight,though, I'm going to grab my
husband.
Be like hey, you want to.