September 4, 2025 • 32 mins
How long will that hot dog cost you? According to groundbreaking research from the University of Michigan, about 35 minutes of your life. But don't worry – that PB&J sandwich you love adds 36 minutes back!
In this fascinating deep dive, we explore the surprising science behind how specific foods either add to or subtract from your lifespan. The findings challenge many common nutritional assumptions: fruits outperform vegetables (14 minutes added versus just 4), nuts and seeds are nutritional powerhouses (adding a whopping 25 minutes per serving), and even breakfast cereal contributes positively to longevity.
What emerges from our conversation is a striking pattern – virtually all the foods that significantly extend life expectancy align perfectly with the Mediterranean diet. From legumes (adding 12 minutes) to seafood (up to 14 minutes) and whole grains, the research validates this eating pattern as genuinely life-extending.
We also discuss practical, budget-friendly ways to incorporate these longevity-boosting foods into your everyday meals. Frozen peas, affordable nut butters, and simple bean dishes can dramatically improve your diet's impact on health without breaking the bank or requiring culinary expertise.
The takeaway isn't about eliminating every "negative" food from your life – it's about finding balance. As we discover, sometimes the most nutritious options are also the most accessible and delicious. Who knew that your childhood favorite sandwich might be adding hours to your life over time?
Ready to make simple changes that could literally extend your life? Listen now and discover which foods deserve more space on your plate, which might be worth limiting, and why the Mediterranean diet continues to prove itself as the gold standard for longevity.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to In Moderation with the real Liam
Layton this time.
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That was me the whole time.
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Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh man.
So I think a lot of people haveheard about the study where
they found peanut butter andjelly sandwiches.
Add minutes to your life.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
They probably have, because I've talked about it a
bunch.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You have talked about it a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I just love it because it's.
You know, eating healthy isexpensive and complicated and I
love just bringing up like well,the university of michigan
found eating a peanut butter andjelly sandwich adds.
Was it like 36 minutes to yourlife give?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
or take yeah something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So, like you know, a simple sandwich that takes less
than five minutes put to puttogether is relatively cheap and
easy and tasty.
Like I eat multiple peanutbutter and jelly sandwiches a
week and like, hey, that's thatif.
If it's like one of the foodsthat has the most time to your
life, it's kind of got to besort of healthy, right I would
think so yeah, and so like Ilike to bring that up a lot and
(01:43):
we were kind of curious likewhat about all the other foods?
Because I'm interested in whatthe other foods is.
So Rob has the list of a bunchof foods anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, I got the study open in front of me.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And you're going to ask, and I'm going to nail it
Every single one you ask me.
I got this, I have a generalidea and I feel extra sort of
confident.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Okay, so just for a reference range, we're talking
everything's on a line calledthe minimum healthy life per
serving, which is a rangebetween minus 40 to plus 40 in
minutes.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Oh, it goes all the way up to 40.
Okay, okay, I remember hot dogs.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
well, I mean the peanut butter and jelly is the
most and it was at 36.
Okay, got it.
Yeah, I was gonna say Iremember.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I remember hot dogs, the worst and it was around
around 40.
I know processed meats notgreat, but that's the one thing
I remember from this frankfurteris um.
The range goes between aboutminus 31 to minus 40, with the
median being around minus 35 andthe funny thing is because,
(02:51):
like, I'll bring up like oh, ahot dog takes away this many
minutes, but I'll say, like apeanut butter and jelly adds
this many.
So people are like, oh, if Ieat a peanut butter and jelly
and a hot dog, it cancels out.
And I'm kind of just like, hey,that sort of sounds like
balance and life is important.
What do you fucking know?
Isn't that some shit when, likeyou kind of eat some healthy
foods and then you kind of maybeeat some unhealthy foods and it
(03:12):
all bounce out and like you getto live your life.
What, how, who has come up withthis thing?
We should definitely make apodcast about that.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
We should.
What would a peanut butter andjelly hot dog taste like?
Also, I love how the train'scoming just as we start, I know.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I was going to think about eating the hot dog first
and the peanut butter and jellysandwich, but I guess if you
want to make some kind ofFrankenstein thing, Frankenstein
Frankfurter, then yeah, go forit.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I mean, if somebody does that, let us know how it
tastes.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I'm not gonna do it, not good, I'll eat a lot of
things, but I I'm gonna, I'mgonna pass on that.
Uh, all right.
So give me, give me, give meone of the other ones, give me
something.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Give me, give me something else okay, well, since
we, since we went with, uh, hotdogs, what do you?
What do you think about burgers?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
good old-fashioned beef burger oh so I'm assuming
you know like red meat probablynot, I've got to assume it's in
the negative, but like less inthe negative than a burger.
Like you know, you have groundbeef.
That's not like processed meat.
You cook that yourself.
I'm assuming it's that.
But unless it's like a burger,you know you buy it like it's as
far as a processed meat If youbuy it at like a McDonald's or
(04:22):
something.
Anyway, I am me if you buy itat like a mcdonald's or
something.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Anyway, I am going to guess 12 minutes.
Take it away 12, 12, that'spretty close.
Actually it's somewhere aboutminus seven seven.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Okay, it's not too bad.
That's actually okay.
That's better.
I should have gone lower, allright.
All right, not too bad at all.
Plus, I mean, like you know,you have a burger, right, so
usually you put some likeveggies and stuff on it, right,
you put your tomatoes, youronions, your pickles, all of
that sort of stuff, yeah, yeah,so that's so.
That's not so bad.
I feel pretty good about that.
Give me another one.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Give me another one give you another one, okay?
Well, let's compare that withuh mixed seafood dishes oh.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So like seafood, oh everybody.
And like I wish seafood tasted.
It's like I like.
Okay, here's the thing.
I've you gotta pick.
You gotta just find the seafoodthat you like.
All right, people are gonnatell you like, oh, sardines are
the healthiest, and even that'strue.
I can't do it.
I can't.
I've talked about it many timeson the podcast.
I won't do it.
So I think you just gotta findthe ones you like.
So you know, I like my salmonand I like my tuna and I feel
(05:19):
good with that.
So I'm gonna stick with that.
But just mixed seafood dishesseafood's got to be up there.
I'm going to say it's morepositive.
Well, obviously more positivethan the burger.
But even into the positive,more than seven, it's gonna be
16, 16 minutes.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So this might surprise you and I imagine
because it's mixed.
So there's, you know, it's notuh specific to any specific uh,
but it's only at about a plusfour.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Four Damn.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
But it is in the positive.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It is in the positive , but I was thinking it would be
a lot more like.
Seafood was one of those thingsI thought would be up there
Dang.
All right, all right, all right.
So, ok, plus four, still thepositive, still the positive.
So I get my salmon Good.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Let's see what do we got.
How about pizza?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Plus 20?
.
Because I want it to be Wishfulthinking, damn, I would love
All right, minus two.
I'm going to say it's not sobad.
I love pizza.
Let pizza be good.
Actually that's about spot onMinus two bad at all.
Let's go, guys.
I'm getting my pizza especially.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I always think it's funny when people say pizza's
unhealthy and then you're likeif you took the bread and the
tomato sauce and the cheese andyou put them in it like just had
them individual, you would saythose things are healthy that's
basically negative.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Two is basically on the cream.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I I love it well I mean all you have to do is, uh,
let's see what we got.
What about mixed vegetables?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
see, here's the thing like I remember this study
being like vegetables were goodbut not as good as I thought
they were gonna be.
Like I thought vegetables weregonna be up there and it was
still good.
It was, I'm gonna say, eightplus eight it's actually about
plus four plus four.
Not even as good as I.
Even saying what I said, I'mstill overestimating it.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, but you take some mixed vegetables and you
throw them on the pizza.
They cancel each other out.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
There you go, you get into the positive.
Now we get a plus two.
There you go.
Hey, throw some.
What do I like?
Oh no, I guess olives aren't avegetable, but they're fruit.
I like peppers and onions.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Okay, so I just realized something with reading
this thing.
So the seafood mixed dishes I'massuming are actual like, not
like mixed seafood, but actualdishes that are seafood-based.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I was kind of thinking that too.
So like sushi and rice, orsomething.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Oh, maybe with that.
Okay, because they actuallyhave seafood separately on.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I want to know see if I, yeah, let me get.
Is it just seafood or does itlike?
Is it uh individual?
Like seafood okay, seafood,just seafood.
Yeah, this one's higher, thisone's higher, this one's higher.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
19, 19 so not quite that high.
Sorry it ranges, and I guess,because seafood is a very broad
category, it ranges betweenabout plus two to about plus 14
okay, 14.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
What's does it say?
Like salmon is salmon ismackerel, uh, sardines anchovies
.
14.
Is that the 14 I.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
It does not say any specific it's gotta be.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It's gotta be like those fattier fish, like you
know, the mackerel and whatnot.
Yeah, I'll go with the salmon.
That's what I can do.
That's what I can do Take it orleave it.
Give me a fruit.
Give me a fruit.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I have to give you all the fruits, because it's
literally fruits as a singularcategory I'm gonna say fruit is
higher than vegetables.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Seven, you're a little low, more it's.
More than that.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
it's a it's more than that, it's 12 keep going what
fruit?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
is so good for us.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
18 not quite that high, it's about 14, 14 yeah and
vegetables were four mixedvegetables were about four.
Yeah, what the?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
fuck's going on with vegetables.
Maybe the carnivores?
And then we should just stop itactually separates um.
So that's mixed vegetables, butthen there's another one that's
there's starchy vegetables,specifically, and there's
vegetables excluding starchy solike non-starchy vegetables, I'm
assuming would be higher, likeyour broccolis, like your
cruciferous vegetables, yourBrussels sprouts, all that stuff
(09:27):
, and then, like your potatoes,would be good but not as good,
yeah, okay.
So like what is it then?
So what is it like a plus, oneor two for starchy and then like
a plus?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
seven.
No, it's the excluding.
Starchy is only one extraminute over.
The mixed vegetables andstarchy vegetables are about
just a zero.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
They don't add anything.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
They don't subtract anything.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I'm sad.
Now, what about man?
My world about vegetables?
I guess we should just.
I guess, when people ask melike hey, I don't like
vegetables, Can I just eatfruits, I can just be like fuck
it.
Yeah, apparently that's better,Just go do it.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I mean to be fair.
It is an overall positive.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
No, it's right, it's better than a negative.
Yeah, that's funny, interesting, interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, I thought I saw , oh, fruits.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I gotta be eating my fruits.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Legumes and soy products oh, 800.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I know it was 52.
800, I know it was uh.
52 107, uh, no, uh, come on 20,let that be super high.
No, it's not gonna be that.
Nuts and seeds, I remember,were like the highest and it
wasn't even like that bad, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
12 12 is about right, yep that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, so I figured like they, and yet rfk, that
individual is telling people towell, he didn't say specifically
eat less beans, but he rejected.
There was a recommendation oflike hey, beans are a plant
protein, we should add that asan option.
(10:59):
And he was like no, not that.
Like what the hell dude, it'slike the cheapest thing, it's
got protein and fiber.
So yeah, I'm no, not that.
Like what the hell dude Like,it's like the cheapest thing,
it's got protein and fiber.
So yeah, I'm not happy aboutthat.
I can stay away from my beans,Leave my beans alone.
That was pretty ridiculous.
So ridiculous, especially with,like, the price of food
skyrocketing.
Oh, not the cheapest food Can'thave that, I bet you.
(11:22):
He just wants people to eatgrass fed Wagyu or whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Okay, so 12, 12 is good, no.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
All right, so eat your, eat your legumes which, by
the way.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So what do you think?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Peas are in legumes, so eat your peas as well.
Also, really good People lovepeas.
Peas are great.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Okay, oils, which I assume.
It just says oils.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
It doesn't define it, but I'm assuming it's talking
about seed oils or butter well,I've been watching a lot of
carnivore md switch to paulsaladino, so I'm gonna say
butter is like five times better, butter's better.
No, I mean I'm assuming oilsare gonna be high.
I know I feel like oils aredefinitely gonna be higher, but
is it say the minutes?
Is it like one for oils?
(12:04):
I can't imagine oils that high.
Zero, is it zero?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
oils at zero they are both negative one they're both
negative one but, but that's themedian.
They're both negative.
One median oils actually has alarger what's the word I'm
looking for?
It's a larger variance to it.
Where oils butter is like justsolid minus one, there's no
(12:30):
variance to it, Whereas oilsactually there is some that goes
above zero.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Okay, they give like specific ones, like olive oils.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Unfortunately no oh, okay apparently there's just,
but I think we can, uh, I thinkwe can guess which oils are the
better ones rapeseed exactly uh,okay, interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I thought it would be a little.
I didn't think the oils wouldbe like super high, because it's
still like just a lot ofcalories and there's not a like
it's got a lot of like mono andpolyunsaturated fat, but did you
know there might be some likevitamin e or something going
along with it?
But but not, but not that much,right, you know.
So you're not getting the fiber, you're not getting any of that
stuff.
Maybe with like a extra virginolive oil, you get some
(13:12):
antioxidants, but still it'sjust, yeah, it's not super
nutrient dense.
Either way, it's interesting.
All right, what?
Uh, I remember nuts and seedsbeing the high.
Do you have like the nuts andseeds category?
I remember that one being likethe highest, do you?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
have the nuts and seeds category.
I remember that one being thehighest.
It is Well.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
actually the peanut butter and jelly was the highest
, yeah the peanut butter andjelly was the meal, but the nuts
and seeds were the secondhighest.
I remember as a group nuts andseeds were high, it was like 20?
.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
As a group.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
yeah, it was like 25 or 26 minutes.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yep, yep about that.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I remember that because I was like, like we say
like, uh, you know, like, oh,you eat healthy, eat your fruits
and vegetables.
Right, you always say that I'mlike fucking get your nuts in.
Tell people to get your nuts in, man, like there's so, there's
so good for you, haha, thesenuts.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
All those jokes aside , like just don't get your nuts
in your ear all, all of the nutsjokes.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
We could just go on for like five minutes and then
come back to like actually howthey're healthy.
But you know, you get your polyand you get like people like
olive oils Good.
It's like you're getting likethe oils in the nuts, the amount
of them and polyunsaturatedfats, but then you're getting
the fiber, you're getting theprotein, you're getting the
vitamins, you're getting theminerals, you're getting the
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antioxidants.
Like nuts really kind of haveit all.
You know they're.
Uh, if you're low carb, likehey, nuts are great too.
That's like the one thing I canagree with.
Low carb people on nuts aregreat yes, they are and like any
any of them like then they'repretty.
Oh, I mean depend.
Like macadamias are like superexpensive, but like there's a
wide range and they can bepretty cheap, I like to get.
Oh, and if you're looking tosave money, always go to the
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baking section.
That's what I do.
I get my walnuts and stuff inthe baking section.
When I make my yogurt bowls orsomething, I just have the
walnut pieces and I throw thatright on top.
Boom, it's great.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Here's one.
It's the what was it?
The?
The most eaten breakfast thingin the us cereal where do you
think that's gonna lie?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I remember okay, I do remember cereal being in the
positive, which was kind offunny because most of you think
ready to eat breakfast cerealsare bad.
But like what?
Two, three, four at most uh,it's about four, yeah, four.
So it's like vegetables, it'slike the same, it's around the
same area.
Yeah, like it's the thing.
It's like cereal gets so muchshit and like, yeah, I'm sure
(15:34):
you know reese's, reese's puffs.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Reese's puffs isn't like the best choice if you're
trying to eat healthy but stilllike there's a lot of good, yeah
it before the variance goesfrom like plus uh, plus two up
to like about plus eight and ofcourse the plus eight is going
to be something like your miniwheats and your raisin bran and
the higher fiber, less sugarycereals fiber, all that sort of
(15:57):
stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Man, all right, like it's good.
I've been eating, like inpuffins, even more, like I've
been eating.
I bought a box of puffins um ofme some, let me some puffins.
And then, like I've been eating, I bought a box of puffins um,
love me some, love me somepuffins.
And then, like I've been, Irecently did a video on like all
these, um, all they has like afair life milk now, like their
version of fair life.
That's a dollar, a little overa dollar cheaper maybe.
Yeah, it's like a little over adollar cheaper and it's good,
(16:19):
right.
Or like, use that 14 grams ofprotein per cup.
Boom, that's not's not, that'sa.
That's a pretty, prettydecently balanced meal there.
Throw some fruit in there,apparently.
Yeah, don't throw vegetables inthere.
What's fruit in?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
there.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
That's really good for you, man.
Look, you got some.
You got cereal, that's apositive, and you got fruit,
that's a positive.
Come on, let's actually switchfrom like ready-to-eat cereals
to cooked grains.
Cooked grains Like cooked wholegrains.
I'm assuming they mean wholegrains.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I'm assuming it's whole grain, and well like any
grain, because it's just cookedgrains?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I can't imagine, is that one, one, two.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
So it actually has a very large variance to it, going
from about minus one all theway up to plus 10.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Shit.
I wonder so like.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
And I'm assuming the more refined it is, it's
probably lower on the list whereRight refined grains.
The whole wheat stuff's goingto be higher.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
So, like your, barley and like all of that sort of
stuff is definitely gonna behigher.
Yeah, um, I'm definitely likeI've talked about before.
I'm definitely a faro man.
I like that.
It's got a nice like littlechew to it.
It's good, a great source offiber.
A little bit more expensive,but I did.
Um, I've tried barley, what wasthe other one I tried?
(17:45):
I pronounce it poorly.
People yell at me how Ipronounce it Frika.
It's like F-R-E-E-K-E-H, a-h,something like that.
I'm not good at spelling either,but that was really good.
That was like a Middle Easterngrain.
That was really.
I was surprised.
I like that a lot.
Buckwheat, also super cheap.
(18:06):
Buckwheat's like the cheapestNot my favorite, but still not
bad at all.
So if you're looking forsomething like a budget thing,
buckwheat is great and it givesyou instructions.
People are like how do you cookit?
Like?
The instructions are on thepackage.
It's like one cup of buckwheat,two cups of water, boil, add a
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little oil.
If cook it in vegetable stock,that makes it taste better.
Or you know, chicken stock orwhatever.
Bone broth hey, that addsprotein.
Uh, all that sort of stuff.
Add some seasoning.
I like it with some feta.
I man, I fucking love feta.
I love feta cheese.
That's like one of my favoritecheeses anyway, what else we got
?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
speaking of cheese, yeah, what do you think cheese
is at?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
20, because I want to be hopeful again.
Come on, teddy, is it negative?
I don't want cheese to benegative.
Three negative three tonegative to positive three
that's the range that it's at uh, it's more like um negative
three to negative one oh, poorcheese.
I feel like cheese just comesdown to like the portion, right,
(19:03):
like I feel like a serving ofcheese can be positive, but we
just you know you eat a lot ofit's tough to.
A serving is 28 grams.
It's an ounce.
Fucking.
Come on, man, you eat an ounceof cheese.
You're like, okay, and where'sthe actual cheese?
Now, this was like my, thedusting of cheese that like I
eat it.
I eat that much cheese.
As I'm cooking with things youknow, I'm like cooking the food
(19:24):
and I'm eating like littlepieces of cheese.
Cheese is so good.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Okay, what do you think about Eddie Abue's
favorite?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Eggs, good old eggs, zero Zero.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
One.
It actually ranges fromnegative one all the way down to
negative 11.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Oh, so is that like a fried egg, like fried in butter
, or something Like what it justis?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
eggs.
So I mean, I guess you couldcook it anyway, but it's yeah,
it's solidly in the negatives.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Eggs are just one of those things that I.
It's just so polar, like peoplelove them or hate them, and I
just kind of feel like eggs theygot protein, they got a bunch
of vitamins and minerals,minerals.
But like you don't need to eateggs, you can find that
elsewhere.
I, I don't know like eggs eggsor eggs.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Eggs or eggs, they're good, but like you don't need
to have an egg once in a while.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Just I don't listen to these people that tell you to
eat 20 of them a day it's likeyou know, like 10 eggs a day,
I'm like, damn, you don't need10, even like five.
Like, if you want to eat fiveeggs, to eat five eggs.
I'm not here to tell you whatto do, but I think it's better
off with one, two eggs.
I don't know, I don't know whatelse you got, how about?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
candy.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Positive 12.
With legumes A negative 7.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Well, this is going to surprise you, I think, but
the median is actually plus onewhat?
And it ranges from zero toabout six.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
What the fuck?
Okay, I feel like we need toget more like information on the
candy thing, because thatdoesn't make any sense, that
doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I mean, if you think about it for a second, what is
one of the greatest things thatdetracts from our life?
Stress.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I gave you one second to think about it.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I was trying to come up with a joke and be like
Sylvester Stallone or something.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
And I mean sometimes it's nice to just enjoy a bit of
candy.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
It is, but like it shouldn't be like a positive, at
most it should be like a zero.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I, I need I mean, like I said, the median is just
a one but even still, likethat's a positive, it's candy.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I need to look into this more.
I need to.
I'm kind of curious, likebecause they take into account a
lot of other factors and likethe, the toll on the environment
and whatnot as well, but Idon't know if that factors into
this.
I need to look it up.
I'm curious now.
I'm very curious how uh candyplays into this.
But until then, hey, enjoy somecandy.
Maybe just don't eat a lot ofit.
Yeah, I bought this for a videoI'm gonna post soon.
(21:52):
Um, it's like a little uhpicture like you hang on the
wall but it holds candy, itholds like m&ms or whatever in
it and it has a little knob atthe bottom.
You turn and it pops out liketwo or three pieces which I like
.
So you kind of just like I'mgonna turn this.
There's one or maybe just onepiece, because I got peanut
butter and jelly m&ms they'rekind of big and then you get a
(22:14):
piece of candy and then you'renot like eating a whole bag, not
kind of like that.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
And peanut butter and jelly, all right, and I just
noticed that there's uh, itactually tells, it tells.
It doesn't tell you um what isin the category, but it does
tell you how many things theysampled in the category.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Interesting, yeah what they said.
I'm gonna have to look intothat because I'm kind of curious
.
If there's is more information,all right.
All right, give me like acouple more.
Give me a couple more couplemore.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Okay, what do we got mexican?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I love the mexican.
It's just a category.
Oh, just mex, just just mexican, all of mexican cuisine wrapped
together.
I mean there's beans there'slots of beans in mexico and rice
, and so I'm gonna say it'spositive, I'm gonna say it's a
five it actually goes from anegative five to a plus five.
(23:03):
Okay.
So I feel like that should befor any cuisine, like any
cuisine should be, like youcould go from the negatives to
the positive, because it justdepends.
But I love that they put thatin there Just Mexican.
I never thought they would haveput a whole fucking like you
know, country's cuisine justtogether.
That's fucking great man.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
that's awesome well, I mean, we can follow that up
with asian negative eight topositive eight, I'm gonna say
there's a wider range I don'tknow, because what the hell?
Uh, it's actually more like anegative three to a positive
four oh, it's like a more narrowrange, okay, I guess.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Oh, that's funny, man , all right.
Well, I mean, I like both ofthose.
Do they have Indian?
I'm pretty curious.
I feel like Indian would bemore positive because of all the
lentils and stuff.
Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
They do not have Indian I'm sorry, oh, what the
fuck?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Come on, you're going to put Mexico and Asian on
there, but not Indian, I guess.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Well, I mean there's.
There is other grain basedmixed dishes.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
OK, but there's not Indian.
I just went to like this NorthMarket here in Columbus.
They have like, just like youwalk around there's a bunch of
different little places thathave restaurants and we got like
taste of India.
That's in a little place thathave restaurants and we got like
taste of india.
That was pretty good.
I got like doll and um.
I don't remember the otherthing I got, but it was like
they had like a vegan section, avegetarian section and then a
meat section.
I like that.
I love that.
With like the indian thing, Ican just like I'm gonna pick the
(24:30):
, the vegan one and get thiswith rice and garlic naan always
the garlic naan.
Are you gonna get regular naanover garlic naan?
What are you insane?
Garlic makes it taste better.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
So, yeah, that's really good all right, well, so
liam, yeah, yeah, what do youthink?
What was something that all ofthe the positive ones had in
common?
They were all good for you.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Uh, yes, that's all folks don't be a worse that they
were all in the mediterraneandiet, yeah that's exactly it.
That's almost like we set thatup to be a thing.
It's almost like we were tryingto figure out what to talk
about.
We're like oh, that makes sense.
Dude, that's because we getasked about the Mediterranean
(25:10):
diet and it's really just kindof oh, here it is.
I had a whole list of things andit's your fresh fruits and
vegetables, your whole grains,your oils, your legumes, fish
nuts.
It's like your fresh fruits andvegetables, your whole grains,
your oils, your legumes, fish,nuts, it's all in there.
So, like just kind of findingthose things and like figuring
out how to get them into yourdiet and like, like I feel like
(25:32):
fruits, like one of the easiest,because like, oh, you just eat
it, you just snack on it, youknow.
Whereas, like I feel like youknow, uh, vegetables, you add
cheese and stuff to it makes ittaste better, and then, like
that's easier to get that.
Or like you know, whole grains,um, it's like whole grains
cereal, like we just talkedabout, like that makes it easy
to get a whole grain right, justa breakfast cereal.
It's already cooked.
(25:52):
Obviously, cooking yourself isgreat, but like, if it's already
cooked, even easier.
Um, like, uh, your legumes, youget.
Uh, I love hummus Hummus isjust great to dip into.
Or like guacamole I like thehummus and guacamole packets you
dip into that.
That just makes it superconvenient and easy.
But I made just recently posteda video on like a Chana masala
(26:13):
type thing, like something likethat, and that's super easy.
A couple of cans of chickpeasand onion seasoning oil, like
Ooh, I made the Greek yogurt.
It was really nice, you got totry this.
You got to take Greek yogurt,lemon juice, a little bit of oil
and just grate one raw garlicclove, like on the fine grater,
one raw garlic clove, mix it alltogether.
(26:34):
You can maybe do a little lemonzest in there as well.
Oh, it went so well.
It went so well with thechickpeas and all the seasoning.
Highly recommend.
And then fish, whatever works.
I like tuna.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
That's what I've been eating I mean, I grew up on
fish, so I love all fish I likeall fish, I don't know like some
.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
There's some, some of those little, those little
fuckers, sardines and stuff.
I can't do, man, I don't care,I've tried it so much.
You know what I am gonna trysoon cottage cheese ice cream,
because I made a fucking videoon it and the company saw it and
they're like we'll send it toyou.
And I'm like, oh god, hey, I'mso happy, I'm so I'm so thrilled
(27:15):
that you're sending this to meand I'm gonna get to try it.
Ihappy.
That's how I feel right now.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I still love the life hack Dr Terry Simpson gave us,
which was just snack on babycarrots while you're driving.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Something that's like you can just eat raw.
Maybe you can like add stuff toit that makes it.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Snap peas or something.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That makes it a lot easier, right, like just finding
those things.
Like I love the thing with Italk I talk about peas, you know
, or you're making somethingelse.
You just throw peas in it, like, because they just, like you
heat them up, they're frozen,like frozen peas are great, so
you just you just get themwarmed up and boom for like a
mac and cheese or whatever, sogood frozen peas are underrated.
Frozen and they're like a dollar, like one to two dollars for a
(27:57):
bag.
Come on, can't beat that.
Maybe that and like nuts again.
Let's just like super easy.
I don't fucking love man.
I just love peanut butter.
I just give me all the peanutbutter.
It's so good, man.
Yeah, it's high in calories,blah, blah, blah, but like it's
so, it's so good, it's got allthe things.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Give me all the peanuts and it's adding minutes
to your life it's adding likethe most minutes apparently like
well, actually this would beadding hours, if it's like 35 or
whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
If you don't like it or you're allergic.
Fucking almond butter.
There's others like sunflowerbutter.
They make all sorts ofdifferent ones like cashew
butter and all that good stuff.
Still very good.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I think we should throw it out there that just
because we said something was,like you know, in the negatives,
that doesn't mean you have toavoid it, but maybe don't eat it
all the time.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Pretty much Exactly.
It's all about balance.
Add in the other things oh,what was it?
Costco sells like a seven nutbutter.
It's just like a bunch of.
It's like hazelnuts and likepeanuts and almonds and like all
these things mixed togetherReally good, and they even throw
like chia seeds and flax seedsin there, so it's like mega
super healthy or whatever.
That sounds good.
It's only like six bucks forlike a big old jar, like a big
(29:07):
one of the.
It's got like 30 servings in itor whatever.
Highly recommend.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Throw that on some bread and you're good to go.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Some whole wheat bread, whole grains boom.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Put it in your cereal putting shakes, put it, put it,
put it in a shake with banana,bananas, fruit boom, boom.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Fuck your bananas.
They're so cheap, 50 cents apound.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, bananas I wish peas were cheaper.
I mean you can get the frozenpeas, obviously, but I wish,
like the nice fresh snap peasand stuff were cheaper oh, like,
the snap peas can get moreexpensive, but like yeah, those
are also kind of like more workand whatever, and I just like
this shit that's frozen.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
They just dump it in there.
Yeah, oh, done so I can't ones.
Oh, man, it's.
You know what's the best,though?
Fucking corn is the best.
I'm telling you corn, fresh,delicious, canned, delicious
frozen it's got the juice it'sfucking.
What the hell is up with.
It's got the juice.
Where's that from?
Where's that from?
People were commenting that I'mlike I don't know what.
I don't get this fucking memereference you never saw it?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
the the corn kid oh the corn.
Did he stay in there?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
okay, because I played a clip of that, and I
don't even remember him sayingit's got the juice.
I must have just missed thatyeah, he said that that's so
funny because, like I played aclip of him be like corn, but I
just don't remember him sayingit's got the juice.
I just fucking, I guess Iblanked that weird it's got the
juice, I like it and corn.
So yeah, go try and bemediterranean sometimes, eat
your other stuff other the othertimes and like don't stress
(30:32):
about it and have some candybecause apparently it's fine and
don't be your worst okay, okay,but before we go, before we go,
I don't want to forget this.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
So last week, mike and I, we had a um, a giveaway
for anybody that came ontotwitch and said banana bread,
okay, while we were streaming,obviously.
And so I wrote down the namesof the people that came in and
said banana bread and I've got adice here.
I'm gonna throw a dice andwe're gonna find out who gets
the gift card.
I like it.
We got aqua toe I'm glad aquatoe won, because that's that
(31:04):
seems like an auto-generatedname, but I still love it so,
aqua toe, when you hear this,just give me a message on twitch
and we'll set you up with agift card aqua toes freaking out
right now.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I've been waiting my whole life for this to get my
name set on a podcast and thequestion are you, are you
related?
Welcome back to In Moderation with the real Liam
Layton this time.
Liam I don't think knows it,but last week we had fake Liam.
Mike Pridgen came in andpretended to be you.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
No, that was me.
That was me the whole time.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Oh, sorry, that was you Ask me literally anything.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
You asked me last week and I'll be able to tell
you.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Okay, 22.
What the hell did we talk aboutlast week?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
That is exactly correct.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yes, Okay, it is him.
It was 100% Liam, nice.
Well, what are we doing thisweek?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
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world for different reasons.
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the things that supplements willboost you.
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Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh man.
So I think a lot of people haveheard about the study where
they found peanut butter andjelly sandwiches.
Add minutes to your life.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
They probably have, because I've talked about it a
bunch.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You have talked about it a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I just love it because it's.
You know, eating healthy isexpensive and complicated and I
love just bringing up like well,the university of michigan
found eating a peanut butter andjelly sandwich adds.
Was it like 36 minutes to yourlife give?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
or take yeah something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So, like you know, a simple sandwich that takes less
than five minutes put to puttogether is relatively cheap and
easy and tasty.
Like I eat multiple peanutbutter and jelly sandwiches a
week and like, hey, that's thatif.
If it's like one of the foodsthat has the most time to your
life, it's kind of got to besort of healthy, right I would
think so yeah, and so like Ilike to bring that up a lot and
(01:43):
we were kind of curious likewhat about all the other foods?
Because I'm interested in whatthe other foods is.
So Rob has the list of a bunchof foods anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, I got the study open in front of me.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And you're going to ask, and I'm going to nail it
Every single one you ask me.
I got this, I have a generalidea and I feel extra sort of
confident.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Okay, so just for a reference range, we're talking
everything's on a line calledthe minimum healthy life per
serving, which is a rangebetween minus 40 to plus 40 in
minutes.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Oh, it goes all the way up to 40.
Okay, okay, I remember hot dogs.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
well, I mean the peanut butter and jelly is the
most and it was at 36.
Okay, got it.
Yeah, I was gonna say Iremember.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I remember hot dogs, the worst and it was around
around 40.
I know processed meats notgreat, but that's the one thing
I remember from this frankfurteris um.
The range goes between aboutminus 31 to minus 40, with the
median being around minus 35 andthe funny thing is because,
(02:51):
like, I'll bring up like oh, ahot dog takes away this many
minutes, but I'll say, like apeanut butter and jelly adds
this many.
So people are like, oh, if Ieat a peanut butter and jelly
and a hot dog, it cancels out.
And I'm kind of just like, hey,that sort of sounds like
balance and life is important.
What do you fucking know?
Isn't that some shit when, likeyou kind of eat some healthy
foods and then you kind of maybeeat some unhealthy foods and it
(03:12):
all bounce out and like you getto live your life.
What, how, who has come up withthis thing?
We should definitely make apodcast about that.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
We should.
What would a peanut butter andjelly hot dog taste like?
Also, I love how the train'scoming just as we start, I know.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I was going to think about eating the hot dog first
and the peanut butter and jellysandwich, but I guess if you
want to make some kind ofFrankenstein thing, Frankenstein
Frankfurter, then yeah, go forit.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I mean, if somebody does that, let us know how it
tastes.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I'm not gonna do it, not good, I'll eat a lot of
things, but I I'm gonna, I'mgonna pass on that.
Uh, all right.
So give me, give me, give meone of the other ones, give me
something.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Give me, give me something else okay, well, since
we, since we went with, uh, hotdogs, what do you?
What do you think about burgers?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
good old-fashioned beef burger oh so I'm assuming
you know like red meat probablynot, I've got to assume it's in
the negative, but like less inthe negative than a burger.
Like you know, you have groundbeef.
That's not like processed meat.
You cook that yourself.
I'm assuming it's that.
But unless it's like a burger,you know you buy it like it's as
far as a processed meat If youbuy it at like a McDonald's or
(04:22):
something.
Anyway, I am me if you buy itat like a mcdonald's or
something.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Anyway, I am going to guess 12 minutes.
Take it away 12, 12, that'spretty close.
Actually it's somewhere aboutminus seven seven.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Okay, it's not too bad.
That's actually okay.
That's better.
I should have gone lower, allright.
All right, not too bad at all.
Plus, I mean, like you know,you have a burger, right, so
usually you put some likeveggies and stuff on it, right,
you put your tomatoes, youronions, your pickles, all of
that sort of stuff, yeah, yeah,so that's so.
That's not so bad.
I feel pretty good about that.
Give me another one.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Give me another one give you another one, okay?
Well, let's compare that withuh mixed seafood dishes oh.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So like seafood, oh everybody.
And like I wish seafood tasted.
It's like I like.
Okay, here's the thing.
I've you gotta pick.
You gotta just find the seafoodthat you like.
All right, people are gonnatell you like, oh, sardines are
the healthiest, and even that'strue.
I can't do it.
I can't.
I've talked about it many timeson the podcast.
I won't do it.
So I think you just gotta findthe ones you like.
So you know, I like my salmonand I like my tuna and I feel
(05:19):
good with that.
So I'm gonna stick with that.
But just mixed seafood dishesseafood's got to be up there.
I'm going to say it's morepositive.
Well, obviously more positivethan the burger.
But even into the positive,more than seven, it's gonna be
16, 16 minutes.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So this might surprise you and I imagine
because it's mixed.
So there's, you know, it's notuh specific to any specific uh,
but it's only at about a plusfour.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Four Damn.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
But it is in the positive.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It is in the positive , but I was thinking it would be
a lot more like.
Seafood was one of those thingsI thought would be up there
Dang.
All right, all right, all right.
So, ok, plus four, still thepositive, still the positive.
So I get my salmon Good.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Let's see what do we got.
How about pizza?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Plus 20?
.
Because I want it to be Wishfulthinking, damn, I would love
All right, minus two.
I'm going to say it's not sobad.
I love pizza.
Let pizza be good.
Actually that's about spot onMinus two bad at all.
Let's go, guys.
I'm getting my pizza especially.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I always think it's funny when people say pizza's
unhealthy and then you're likeif you took the bread and the
tomato sauce and the cheese andyou put them in it like just had
them individual, you would saythose things are healthy that's
basically negative.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Two is basically on the cream.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I I love it well I mean all you have to do is, uh,
let's see what we got.
What about mixed vegetables?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
see, here's the thing like I remember this study
being like vegetables were goodbut not as good as I thought
they were gonna be.
Like I thought vegetables weregonna be up there and it was
still good.
It was, I'm gonna say, eightplus eight it's actually about
plus four plus four.
Not even as good as I.
Even saying what I said, I'mstill overestimating it.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, but you take some mixed vegetables and you
throw them on the pizza.
They cancel each other out.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
There you go, you get into the positive.
Now we get a plus two.
There you go.
Hey, throw some.
What do I like?
Oh no, I guess olives aren't avegetable, but they're fruit.
I like peppers and onions.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Okay, so I just realized something with reading
this thing.
So the seafood mixed dishes I'massuming are actual like, not
like mixed seafood, but actualdishes that are seafood-based.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I was kind of thinking that too.
So like sushi and rice, orsomething.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Oh, maybe with that.
Okay, because they actuallyhave seafood separately on.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I want to know see if I, yeah, let me get.
Is it just seafood or does itlike?
Is it uh individual?
Like seafood okay, seafood,just seafood.
Yeah, this one's higher, thisone's higher, this one's higher.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
19, 19 so not quite that high.
Sorry it ranges, and I guess,because seafood is a very broad
category, it ranges betweenabout plus two to about plus 14
okay, 14.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
What's does it say?
Like salmon is salmon ismackerel, uh, sardines anchovies
.
14.
Is that the 14 I.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
It does not say any specific it's gotta be.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It's gotta be like those fattier fish, like you
know, the mackerel and whatnot.
Yeah, I'll go with the salmon.
That's what I can do.
That's what I can do Take it orleave it.
Give me a fruit.
Give me a fruit.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I have to give you all the fruits, because it's
literally fruits as a singularcategory I'm gonna say fruit is
higher than vegetables.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Seven, you're a little low, more it's.
More than that.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
it's a it's more than that, it's 12 keep going what
fruit?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
is so good for us.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
18 not quite that high, it's about 14, 14 yeah and
vegetables were four mixedvegetables were about four.
Yeah, what the?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
fuck's going on with vegetables.
Maybe the carnivores?
And then we should just stop itactually separates um.
So that's mixed vegetables, butthen there's another one that's
there's starchy vegetables,specifically, and there's
vegetables excluding starchy solike non-starchy vegetables, I'm
assuming would be higher, likeyour broccolis, like your
cruciferous vegetables, yourBrussels sprouts, all that stuff
(09:27):
, and then, like your potatoes,would be good but not as good,
yeah, okay.
So like what is it then?
So what is it like a plus, oneor two for starchy and then like
a plus?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
seven.
No, it's the excluding.
Starchy is only one extraminute over.
The mixed vegetables andstarchy vegetables are about
just a zero.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
They don't add anything.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
They don't subtract anything.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I'm sad.
Now, what about man?
My world about vegetables?
I guess we should just.
I guess, when people ask melike hey, I don't like
vegetables, Can I just eatfruits, I can just be like fuck
it.
Yeah, apparently that's better,Just go do it.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I mean to be fair.
It is an overall positive.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
No, it's right, it's better than a negative.
Yeah, that's funny, interesting, interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, I thought I saw , oh, fruits.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I gotta be eating my fruits.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Legumes and soy products oh, 800.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I know it was 52.
800, I know it was uh.
52 107, uh, no, uh, come on 20,let that be super high.
No, it's not gonna be that.
Nuts and seeds, I remember,were like the highest and it
wasn't even like that bad, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
12 12 is about right, yep that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, so I figured like they, and yet rfk, that
individual is telling people towell, he didn't say specifically
eat less beans, but he rejected.
There was a recommendation oflike hey, beans are a plant
protein, we should add that asan option.
(10:59):
And he was like no, not that.
Like what the hell dude, it'slike the cheapest thing, it's
got protein and fiber.
So yeah, I'm no, not that.
Like what the hell dude Like,it's like the cheapest thing,
it's got protein and fiber.
So yeah, I'm not happy aboutthat.
I can stay away from my beans,Leave my beans alone.
That was pretty ridiculous.
So ridiculous, especially with,like, the price of food
skyrocketing.
Oh, not the cheapest food Can'thave that, I bet you.
(11:22):
He just wants people to eatgrass fed Wagyu or whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Okay, so 12, 12 is good, no.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
All right, so eat your, eat your legumes which, by
the way.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So what do you think?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Peas are in legumes, so eat your peas as well.
Also, really good People lovepeas.
Peas are great.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Okay, oils, which I assume.
It just says oils.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
It doesn't define it, but I'm assuming it's talking
about seed oils or butter well,I've been watching a lot of
carnivore md switch to paulsaladino, so I'm gonna say
butter is like five times better, butter's better.
No, I mean I'm assuming oilsare gonna be high.
I know I feel like oils aredefinitely gonna be higher, but
is it say the minutes?
Is it like one for oils?
(12:04):
I can't imagine oils that high.
Zero, is it zero?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
oils at zero they are both negative one they're both
negative one but, but that's themedian.
They're both negative.
One median oils actually has alarger what's the word I'm
looking for?
It's a larger variance to it.
Where oils butter is like justsolid minus one, there's no
(12:30):
variance to it, Whereas oilsactually there is some that goes
above zero.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Okay, they give like specific ones, like olive oils.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Unfortunately no oh, okay apparently there's just,
but I think we can, uh, I thinkwe can guess which oils are the
better ones rapeseed exactly uh,okay, interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I thought it would be a little.
I didn't think the oils wouldbe like super high, because it's
still like just a lot ofcalories and there's not a like
it's got a lot of like mono andpolyunsaturated fat, but did you
know there might be some likevitamin e or something going
along with it?
But but not, but not that much,right, you know.
So you're not getting the fiber, you're not getting any of that
stuff.
Maybe with like a extra virginolive oil, you get some
(13:12):
antioxidants, but still it'sjust, yeah, it's not super
nutrient dense.
Either way, it's interesting.
All right, what?
Uh, I remember nuts and seedsbeing the high.
Do you have like the nuts andseeds category?
I remember that one being likethe highest, do you?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
have the nuts and seeds category.
I remember that one being thehighest.
It is Well.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
actually the peanut butter and jelly was the highest
, yeah the peanut butter andjelly was the meal, but the nuts
and seeds were the secondhighest.
I remember as a group nuts andseeds were high, it was like 20?
.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
As a group.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
yeah, it was like 25 or 26 minutes.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yep, yep about that.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I remember that because I was like, like we say
like, uh, you know, like, oh,you eat healthy, eat your fruits
and vegetables.
Right, you always say that I'mlike fucking get your nuts in.
Tell people to get your nuts in, man, like there's so, there's
so good for you, haha, thesenuts.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
All those jokes aside , like just don't get your nuts
in your ear all, all of the nutsjokes.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
We could just go on for like five minutes and then
come back to like actually howthey're healthy.
But you know, you get your polyand you get like people like
olive oils Good.
It's like you're getting likethe oils in the nuts, the amount
of them and polyunsaturatedfats, but then you're getting
the fiber, you're getting theprotein, you're getting the
vitamins, you're getting theminerals, you're getting the
(14:28):
antioxidants.
Like nuts really kind of haveit all.
You know they're.
Uh, if you're low carb, likehey, nuts are great too.
That's like the one thing I canagree with.
Low carb people on nuts aregreat yes, they are and like any
any of them like then they'repretty.
Oh, I mean depend.
Like macadamias are like superexpensive, but like there's a
wide range and they can bepretty cheap, I like to get.
Oh, and if you're looking tosave money, always go to the
(14:48):
baking section.
That's what I do.
I get my walnuts and stuff inthe baking section.
When I make my yogurt bowls orsomething, I just have the
walnut pieces and I throw thatright on top.
Boom, it's great.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Here's one.
It's the what was it?
The?
The most eaten breakfast thingin the us cereal where do you
think that's gonna lie?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I remember okay, I do remember cereal being in the
positive, which was kind offunny because most of you think
ready to eat breakfast cerealsare bad.
But like what?
Two, three, four at most uh,it's about four, yeah, four.
So it's like vegetables, it'slike the same, it's around the
same area.
Yeah, like it's the thing.
It's like cereal gets so muchshit and like, yeah, I'm sure
(15:34):
you know reese's, reese's puffs.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Reese's puffs isn't like the best choice if you're
trying to eat healthy but stilllike there's a lot of good, yeah
it before the variance goesfrom like plus uh, plus two up
to like about plus eight and ofcourse the plus eight is going
to be something like your miniwheats and your raisin bran and
the higher fiber, less sugarycereals fiber, all that sort of
(15:57):
stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Man, all right, like it's good.
I've been eating, like inpuffins, even more, like I've
been eating.
I bought a box of puffins um ofme some, let me some puffins.
And then, like I've been eating, I bought a box of puffins um,
love me some, love me somepuffins.
And then, like I've been, Irecently did a video on like all
these, um, all they has like afair life milk now, like their
version of fair life.
That's a dollar, a little overa dollar cheaper maybe.
Yeah, it's like a little over adollar cheaper and it's good,
(16:19):
right.
Or like, use that 14 grams ofprotein per cup.
Boom, that's not's not, that'sa.
That's a pretty, prettydecently balanced meal there.
Throw some fruit in there,apparently.
Yeah, don't throw vegetables inthere.
What's fruit in?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
there.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
That's really good for you, man.
Look, you got some.
You got cereal, that's apositive, and you got fruit,
that's a positive.
Come on, let's actually switchfrom like ready-to-eat cereals
to cooked grains.
Cooked grains Like cooked wholegrains.
I'm assuming they mean wholegrains.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I'm assuming it's whole grain, and well like any
grain, because it's just cookedgrains?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I can't imagine, is that one, one, two.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
So it actually has a very large variance to it, going
from about minus one all theway up to plus 10.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Shit.
I wonder so like.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
And I'm assuming the more refined it is, it's
probably lower on the list whereRight refined grains.
The whole wheat stuff's goingto be higher.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
So, like your, barley and like all of that sort of
stuff is definitely gonna behigher.
Yeah, um, I'm definitely likeI've talked about before.
I'm definitely a faro man.
I like that.
It's got a nice like littlechew to it.
It's good, a great source offiber.
A little bit more expensive,but I did.
Um, I've tried barley, what wasthe other one I tried?
(17:45):
I pronounce it poorly.
People yell at me how Ipronounce it Frika.
It's like F-R-E-E-K-E-H, a-h,something like that.
I'm not good at spelling either,but that was really good.
That was like a Middle Easterngrain.
That was really.
I was surprised.
I like that a lot.
Buckwheat, also super cheap.
(18:06):
Buckwheat's like the cheapestNot my favorite, but still not
bad at all.
So if you're looking forsomething like a budget thing,
buckwheat is great and it givesyou instructions.
People are like how do you cookit?
Like?
The instructions are on thepackage.
It's like one cup of buckwheat,two cups of water, boil, add a
(18:31):
little oil.
If cook it in vegetable stock,that makes it taste better.
Or you know, chicken stock orwhatever.
Bone broth hey, that addsprotein.
Uh, all that sort of stuff.
Add some seasoning.
I like it with some feta.
I man, I fucking love feta.
I love feta cheese.
That's like one of my favoritecheeses anyway, what else we got
?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
speaking of cheese, yeah, what do you think cheese
is at?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
20, because I want to be hopeful again.
Come on, teddy, is it negative?
I don't want cheese to benegative.
Three negative three tonegative to positive three
that's the range that it's at uh, it's more like um negative
three to negative one oh, poorcheese.
I feel like cheese just comesdown to like the portion, right,
(19:03):
like I feel like a serving ofcheese can be positive, but we
just you know you eat a lot ofit's tough to.
A serving is 28 grams.
It's an ounce.
Fucking.
Come on, man, you eat an ounceof cheese.
You're like, okay, and where'sthe actual cheese?
Now, this was like my, thedusting of cheese that like I
eat it.
I eat that much cheese.
As I'm cooking with things youknow, I'm like cooking the food
(19:24):
and I'm eating like littlepieces of cheese.
Cheese is so good.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Okay, what do you think about Eddie Abue's
favorite?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Eggs, good old eggs, zero Zero.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
One.
It actually ranges fromnegative one all the way down to
negative 11.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Oh, so is that like a fried egg, like fried in butter
, or something Like what it justis?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
eggs.
So I mean, I guess you couldcook it anyway, but it's yeah,
it's solidly in the negatives.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Eggs are just one of those things that I.
It's just so polar, like peoplelove them or hate them, and I
just kind of feel like eggs theygot protein, they got a bunch
of vitamins and minerals,minerals.
But like you don't need to eateggs, you can find that
elsewhere.
I, I don't know like eggs eggsor eggs.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Eggs or eggs, they're good, but like you don't need
to have an egg once in a while.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Just I don't listen to these people that tell you to
eat 20 of them a day it's likeyou know, like 10 eggs a day,
I'm like, damn, you don't need10, even like five.
Like, if you want to eat fiveeggs, to eat five eggs.
I'm not here to tell you whatto do, but I think it's better
off with one, two eggs.
I don't know, I don't know whatelse you got, how about?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
candy.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Positive 12.
With legumes A negative 7.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Well, this is going to surprise you, I think, but
the median is actually plus onewhat?
And it ranges from zero toabout six.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
What the fuck?
Okay, I feel like we need toget more like information on the
candy thing, because thatdoesn't make any sense, that
doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I mean, if you think about it for a second, what is
one of the greatest things thatdetracts from our life?
Stress.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I gave you one second to think about it.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I was trying to come up with a joke and be like
Sylvester Stallone or something.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
And I mean sometimes it's nice to just enjoy a bit of
candy.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
It is, but like it shouldn't be like a positive, at
most it should be like a zero.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I, I need I mean, like I said, the median is just
a one but even still, likethat's a positive, it's candy.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I need to look into this more.
I need to.
I'm kind of curious, likebecause they take into account a
lot of other factors and likethe, the toll on the environment
and whatnot as well, but Idon't know if that factors into
this.
I need to look it up.
I'm curious now.
I'm very curious how uh candyplays into this.
But until then, hey, enjoy somecandy.
Maybe just don't eat a lot ofit.
Yeah, I bought this for a videoI'm gonna post soon.
(21:52):
Um, it's like a little uhpicture like you hang on the
wall but it holds candy, itholds like m&ms or whatever in
it and it has a little knob atthe bottom.
You turn and it pops out liketwo or three pieces which I like
.
So you kind of just like I'mgonna turn this.
There's one or maybe just onepiece, because I got peanut
butter and jelly m&ms they'rekind of big and then you get a
(22:14):
piece of candy and then you'renot like eating a whole bag, not
kind of like that.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
And peanut butter and jelly, all right, and I just
noticed that there's uh, itactually tells, it tells.
It doesn't tell you um what isin the category, but it does
tell you how many things theysampled in the category.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Interesting, yeah what they said.
I'm gonna have to look intothat because I'm kind of curious
.
If there's is more information,all right.
All right, give me like acouple more.
Give me a couple more couplemore.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Okay, what do we got mexican?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I love the mexican.
It's just a category.
Oh, just mex, just just mexican, all of mexican cuisine wrapped
together.
I mean there's beans there'slots of beans in mexico and rice
, and so I'm gonna say it'spositive, I'm gonna say it's a
five it actually goes from anegative five to a plus five.
(23:03):
Okay.
So I feel like that should befor any cuisine, like any
cuisine should be, like youcould go from the negatives to
the positive, because it justdepends.
But I love that they put thatin there Just Mexican.
I never thought they would haveput a whole fucking like you
know, country's cuisine justtogether.
That's fucking great man.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
that's awesome well, I mean, we can follow that up
with asian negative eight topositive eight, I'm gonna say
there's a wider range I don'tknow, because what the hell?
Uh, it's actually more like anegative three to a positive
four oh, it's like a more narrowrange, okay, I guess.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Oh, that's funny, man , all right.
Well, I mean, I like both ofthose.
Do they have Indian?
I'm pretty curious.
I feel like Indian would bemore positive because of all the
lentils and stuff.
Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
They do not have Indian I'm sorry, oh, what the
fuck?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Come on, you're going to put Mexico and Asian on
there, but not Indian, I guess.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Well, I mean there's.
There is other grain basedmixed dishes.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
OK, but there's not Indian.
I just went to like this NorthMarket here in Columbus.
They have like, just like youwalk around there's a bunch of
different little places thathave restaurants and we got like
taste of India.
That's in a little place thathave restaurants and we got like
taste of india.
That was pretty good.
I got like doll and um.
I don't remember the otherthing I got, but it was like
they had like a vegan section, avegetarian section and then a
meat section.
I like that.
I love that.
With like the indian thing, Ican just like I'm gonna pick the
(24:30):
, the vegan one and get thiswith rice and garlic naan always
the garlic naan.
Are you gonna get regular naanover garlic naan?
What are you insane?
Garlic makes it taste better.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
So, yeah, that's really good all right, well, so
liam, yeah, yeah, what do youthink?
What was something that all ofthe the positive ones had in
common?
They were all good for you.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Uh, yes, that's all folks don't be a worse that they
were all in the mediterraneandiet, yeah that's exactly it.
That's almost like we set thatup to be a thing.
It's almost like we were tryingto figure out what to talk
about.
We're like oh, that makes sense.
Dude, that's because we getasked about the Mediterranean
(25:10):
diet and it's really just kindof oh, here it is.
I had a whole list of things andit's your fresh fruits and
vegetables, your whole grains,your oils, your legumes, fish
nuts.
It's like your fresh fruits andvegetables, your whole grains,
your oils, your legumes, fish,nuts, it's all in there.
So, like just kind of findingthose things and like figuring
out how to get them into yourdiet and like, like I feel like
(25:32):
fruits, like one of the easiest,because like, oh, you just eat
it, you just snack on it, youknow.
Whereas, like I feel like youknow, uh, vegetables, you add
cheese and stuff to it makes ittaste better, and then, like
that's easier to get that.
Or like you know, whole grains,um, it's like whole grains
cereal, like we just talkedabout, like that makes it easy
to get a whole grain right, justa breakfast cereal.
It's already cooked.
(25:52):
Obviously, cooking yourself isgreat, but like, if it's already
cooked, even easier.
Um, like, uh, your legumes, youget.
Uh, I love hummus Hummus isjust great to dip into.
Or like guacamole I like thehummus and guacamole packets you
dip into that.
That just makes it superconvenient and easy.
But I made just recently posteda video on like a Chana masala
(26:13):
type thing, like something likethat, and that's super easy.
A couple of cans of chickpeasand onion seasoning oil, like
Ooh, I made the Greek yogurt.
It was really nice, you got totry this.
You got to take Greek yogurt,lemon juice, a little bit of oil
and just grate one raw garlicclove, like on the fine grater,
one raw garlic clove, mix it alltogether.
(26:34):
You can maybe do a little lemonzest in there as well.
Oh, it went so well.
It went so well with thechickpeas and all the seasoning.
Highly recommend.
And then fish, whatever works.
I like tuna.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
That's what I've been eating I mean, I grew up on
fish, so I love all fish I likeall fish, I don't know like some
.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
There's some, some of those little, those little
fuckers, sardines and stuff.
I can't do, man, I don't care,I've tried it so much.
You know what I am gonna trysoon cottage cheese ice cream,
because I made a fucking videoon it and the company saw it and
they're like we'll send it toyou.
And I'm like, oh god, hey, I'mso happy, I'm so I'm so thrilled
(27:15):
that you're sending this to meand I'm gonna get to try it.
Ihappy.
That's how I feel right now.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I still love the life hack Dr Terry Simpson gave us,
which was just snack on babycarrots while you're driving.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Something that's like you can just eat raw.
Maybe you can like add stuff toit that makes it.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Snap peas or something.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That makes it a lot easier, right, like just finding
those things.
Like I love the thing with Italk I talk about peas, you know
, or you're making somethingelse.
You just throw peas in it, like, because they just, like you
heat them up, they're frozen,like frozen peas are great, so
you just you just get themwarmed up and boom for like a
mac and cheese or whatever, sogood frozen peas are underrated.
Frozen and they're like a dollar, like one to two dollars for a
(27:57):
bag.
Come on, can't beat that.
Maybe that and like nuts again.
Let's just like super easy.
I don't fucking love man.
I just love peanut butter.
I just give me all the peanutbutter.
It's so good, man.
Yeah, it's high in calories,blah, blah, blah, but like it's
so, it's so good, it's got allthe things.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Give me all the peanuts and it's adding minutes
to your life it's adding likethe most minutes apparently like
well, actually this would beadding hours, if it's like 35 or
whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
If you don't like it or you're allergic.
Fucking almond butter.
There's others like sunflowerbutter.
They make all sorts ofdifferent ones like cashew
butter and all that good stuff.
Still very good.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I think we should throw it out there that just
because we said something was,like you know, in the negatives,
that doesn't mean you have toavoid it, but maybe don't eat it
all the time.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Pretty much Exactly.
It's all about balance.
Add in the other things oh,what was it?
Costco sells like a seven nutbutter.
It's just like a bunch of.
It's like hazelnuts and likepeanuts and almonds and like all
these things mixed togetherReally good, and they even throw
like chia seeds and flax seedsin there, so it's like mega
super healthy or whatever.
That sounds good.
It's only like six bucks forlike a big old jar, like a big
(29:07):
one of the.
It's got like 30 servings in itor whatever.
Highly recommend.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Throw that on some bread and you're good to go.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Some whole wheat bread, whole grains boom.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Put it in your cereal putting shakes, put it, put it,
put it in a shake with banana,bananas, fruit boom, boom.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Fuck your bananas.
They're so cheap, 50 cents apound.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, bananas I wish peas were cheaper.
I mean you can get the frozenpeas, obviously, but I wish,
like the nice fresh snap peasand stuff were cheaper oh, like,
the snap peas can get moreexpensive, but like yeah, those
are also kind of like more workand whatever, and I just like
this shit that's frozen.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
They just dump it in there.
Yeah, oh, done so I can't ones.
Oh, man, it's.
You know what's the best,though?
Fucking corn is the best.
I'm telling you corn, fresh,delicious, canned, delicious
frozen it's got the juice it'sfucking.
What the hell is up with.
It's got the juice.
Where's that from?
Where's that from?
People were commenting that I'mlike I don't know what.
I don't get this fucking memereference you never saw it?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
the the corn kid oh the corn.
Did he stay in there?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
okay, because I played a clip of that, and I
don't even remember him sayingit's got the juice.
I must have just missed thatyeah, he said that that's so
funny because, like I played aclip of him be like corn, but I
just don't remember him sayingit's got the juice.
I just fucking, I guess Iblanked that weird it's got the
juice, I like it and corn.
So yeah, go try and bemediterranean sometimes, eat
your other stuff other the othertimes and like don't stress
(30:32):
about it and have some candybecause apparently it's fine and
don't be your worst okay, okay,but before we go, before we go,
I don't want to forget this.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
So last week, mike and I, we had a um, a giveaway
for anybody that came ontotwitch and said banana bread,
okay, while we were streaming,obviously.
And so I wrote down the namesof the people that came in and
said banana bread and I've got adice here.
I'm gonna throw a dice andwe're gonna find out who gets
the gift card.
I like it.
We got aqua toe I'm glad aquatoe won, because that's that
(31:04):
seems like an auto-generatedname, but I still love it so,
aqua toe, when you hear this,just give me a message on twitch
and we'll set you up with agift card aqua toes freaking out
right now.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I've been waiting my whole life for this to get my
name set on a podcast and thequestion are you, are you
related?
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