From DeLoreans to Deadlifts: Why Honesty Beats Hype in Fitness

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SPEAKER_00 (00:18):
So yesterday I posted on my story.
I see Liam's already exhausted.
We are three seconds in.
This is fantastic.

SPEAKER_02 (00:25):
It starts with a yawn.

SPEAKER_00 (00:26):
It starts with a yawn.

SPEAKER_01 (00:29):
It's been a long day.

SPEAKER_00 (00:30):
Well, so uh first off, what have you been doing?
What's what's your day beenlike?

SPEAKER_01 (00:33):
You're talking to Alex or are you talking to me?
You oh why would I talk to theguests?
Oh my goodness.
Uh what have I been up to?
Um, just everything.
Just moving everything into thishouse.
There's still just boxes andshit behind me that I'm like
getting everything out of, andwhere does this go?
And we're getting furniture in.

(00:55):
We got a table that weighs, Idon't know, 947 pounds, maybe.
I mean, I mean, it they'vedelivered it and they're like,
where do you want to put it?
Can we can you bring it inside?
They're like, we charge you ifwe bring it inside.
I'm like, all right, we'll setit outside, and my brother and I
will pick this shit up.
And that thing, I was like, ohdamn, I see why they charge.

(01:16):
Because it it's a stone table.
It's made out of stone, and it'sjust like it's stone and metal
for the brace, and that's all itis.
And it's it was so heavy gettingthat thing into here.
And so I see why people payothers to move things.
I might be at that stage becauseI also tried to move my little
fake like fireplace, and Ididn't take the drawers out of
it first, which in hindsightwasn't the best idea considering

(01:39):
there's glass windows in there,and it was just going the
literally fireplace in it waslike because we had to turn it
to get it up the stairs, andit's just like falling, it's
just slamming all over theplace.
The fact it didn't break is likean advertisement for that
whatever fireplace, whatevercompany makes that fireplace,
because that was I couldn'tbelieve it didn't break.

SPEAKER_00 (01:59):
Anyway, that's you know did you buy lead placemats
too?
Like what you know they maketables out of other materials.

SPEAKER_01 (02:05):
No, I wanted I wanted something that looked
cool, like a statement piece.
And I thought about live wood,but I wanted this like it's a
white stone table that almostlooks kind of like marble.
Like it's really it looks reallynice, and it was a good price.
Like it, I thought it would beway more than it was.
So I was like, I'm gonna getthis, and I I'm really happy
with it.
It extends, it extends out.
You can make it longer, it'slike however umpteen feet long,

(02:27):
guys, guys, guys.
Up up to umpteen feet long,guys.
I have an idea because okay, inthe room, like I'm kind of in
like yeah, it's it's got vaultedceilings, it's got vaulted
ceilings in the main room whenyou come in.
So they're they're really tall.
I'm gonna get the biggestChristmas tree, like a fuck you
Christmas tree.

(02:48):
Like anyone who sees it is like,damn, my Christmas tree sucks.
And I'm not gonna move it.
I'm gonna pay someone else tomove it.
I'm just gonna get the fuckingbell of the ball.
No DeLorean.
If I'm not getting a DeLorean,I'm getting the biggest fucking
Christmas tree that anyone hasever seen.
I'm decorating the shit out ofit.
It's gonna like sink half oflike my city's electric bill is

(03:12):
just gonna go to this Christmastree.
That's what I want.

SPEAKER_00 (03:15):
I want a statement piece of a Christmas tree.
That's what I think.
It won't be ChatGPT taking agallon of water every time.
It's gonna be.

SPEAKER_01 (03:22):
I will be competing with ChatGPT for who takes more
water this Christmas tree or AI.

SPEAKER_00 (03:28):
Welcome to In Moderation, the show where we
give you a moderate dose of infosarcasm, and you already know
we're not approved.
Why is it that I'm the one whoalways does this?
I am Mike Prident, also known asMike Needs a Plan on all of the
social medias.
I've been told I don't introducemyself enough.
Obviously, we've got Liam.
Um, when I put out a call for aguest on my stories, and I said,

(03:49):
Who do you want to see onInmoderation?
We had a lot of people ask forLiam Leighton.
And I had the honor.
Wait a second.
Wait a second.
I had the honor of getting toinform them.
Guess what?
He's one of the hosts ofInmoderation, so he's on every
episode.
I've been on a few of them.

SPEAKER_02 (04:06):
I literally told Mike I was like, Liam, never
post the podcast.
I feel like people just don'tknow.

SPEAKER_01 (04:10):
Maybe that's what it is.

SPEAKER_02 (04:12):
I don't post stories.

SPEAKER_01 (04:13):
I literally don't post, I don't even what is a
story?
What are we supposed to post?

SPEAKER_05 (04:16):
I literally told Mike that I was like, never post
anything on a story.
Why don't you just post thepodcast?

SPEAKER_01 (04:20):
I literally okay.
I have a company I work withthat they like to look to get me
brand deals.
So much of it's got just awful.
I hate can I tell you I hatecreatine gummies?
I hate creatine gummies.

SPEAKER_05 (04:29):
I take creatine gummies.

SPEAKER_01 (04:30):
I don't, I listen, if you want to take them, it's
cool.

SPEAKER_03 (04:33):
It's the only way I'm gonna remember to take it.

SPEAKER_01 (04:35):
I I get that, but for me, I'll just put my
creatine next to some Albanese,which are the best gummies.
If you tell me haribu is thebest gummies, just please stop
talking.

SPEAKER_05 (04:44):
Oh god, have you read the the hariboo um uh gummy
review?

SPEAKER_01 (04:51):
I don't wait.
Are you talking about no, the suare you talking about the
sugar-free ones?
Yeah.
Okay, so well no, I'm nottalking about those.

SPEAKER_05 (04:57):
Okay, but did you read the review?

SPEAKER_01 (04:58):
Oh, of course everyone knows of the sugar free
ones.

SPEAKER_00 (05:00):
Before we get into this, this is at the Alex Allen
on all of the social medias.
That's we're speaking to we'retalking to Alex Allen today.
Let's talk about how gummy bearsmake us shit.
Alex, take it away.

SPEAKER_05 (05:13):
You just need to you have you need to have someone do
like a dramatic reading upthere.

SPEAKER_01 (05:15):
Yeah, the dramatic reads are really good because
they're always like, I sat downfor a test and boy was my
butthole not really you rememberit that vividly as Korean.
Oh, I remember.
Oh, I remember everyone'sthere's not everybody's once a
corner you need to go listen tobecause sugar-free are they
they're sugar alcohols, so theylike ferment.
And then if they ferment, if youeat enough of them, then yeah,
they ferment in your you know,large intestine, glue colon, all

(05:38):
that, whatever, and then you areup shit's Greek.
So phrase.
What we're yeah, so the thegummies, sweet creatine, I would
just like to take eat someAlbanese gummies and then just
take my creatine.
They offered like a creatine, Idon't know what company it was,
but they offered me like 10grand to sell creatine gummies.
I was like, no, get that shitout of here.

(05:59):
Yeah, it's crazy.
It was like$10,000,$12,000.
I was like, uh-uh.
I don't like creatine gummies.
But anyway, my point was likethe the you know, you have like
a company uh that you work with,and they're like, Can you give
us the analytics on yourstories?
I'm like, no, because I don'tpost to my stores.

SPEAKER_03 (06:16):
That's crazy.
I'm like, the analytics arezero.

SPEAKER_01 (06:20):
People like I'm not the influencer that people like.
I I talk, oh, I talked with I'mnot gonna say what brand it is
yet, because like you know,we're still working on this, but
I talked with another brandtoday that I actually like, and
they were like, yeah, we nevertalk with the actual like
influencer, the person makingit.
They always just go throughtheir their people or whatever,
like that.
And I'm like, no, no, no, no.

(06:40):
If I'm gonna work with a brand,I want to talk with them, I want
to tell them my idea, why it'sfunny, and why we should do it.
And like, I don't want to begoing like, oh, well, my people,
just have my people tell you,like, fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_03 (06:51):
That's pretentious now.

SPEAKER_01 (06:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (06:54):
It's like to have no, I'm not.

SPEAKER_01 (06:56):
I definitely no, no, I think it's the opposite where
you're just like, yeah, have mypeople do that.
I'm like, no, no, no.
I I want to be able to like talkwith them and be like, hey, this
is my plan for what I want to doand like what you guys think.
And they're like, how many raildo you actually accept?

SPEAKER_05 (07:11):
I saw the bush beans one.

SPEAKER_01 (07:12):
I know I so the bushes be I'm trying to get them
to sponsor me, but they onlysend me a boxer.
They just send me a box.

SPEAKER_05 (07:19):
How dare they just send me free stuff?

SPEAKER_01 (07:20):
I'd want, I don't care.

SPEAKER_05 (07:22):
I remember you said you would take like a penny or
something.

SPEAKER_01 (07:24):
If it was like, yeah, if it was ten dollars and
they're like, make a video, thenI'm sponsored by beans, and I
would totally take that.
But I would take ten dollarsfrom bushes before I take ten
thousand from some stupidcreatine aspect that's
diabolical.

SPEAKER_05 (07:38):
You have standards and I like it.

SPEAKER_01 (07:40):
I don't, I it's about I better like the brand.
So, um, yeah, the but I so butI've taken I think three total
since starting like three totalbrand deals.

SPEAKER_00 (07:49):
To those wondering why Liam hates creatine gummies,
I'm going to assume one of thereasons is that they're
chronically like not dosedproperly.
It seems like every time they'retested.
I don't like on any brand, itseems like the dosage isn't I
didn't even know that, but I'mnot surprised.

SPEAKER_04 (08:07):
No, I was saying uh texted you separately, Mike.

SPEAKER_05 (08:11):
But I was like, uh Michael made a video about that
where he was just complainingabout creatine gummies forever,
and I was trying to figure outwhy that sounded familiar, and I
was like, ah yeah, that's why.

SPEAKER_01 (08:20):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Like freaking it's it's justseems all shit.
I don't like I don't like any ofthose like you can't like track
how dosed it is.
Yeah, I don't I don't like justtake like a little a scoop, just
take a scoop, put like I put itin some fucking glass like a
human, and then I have somegummies.
I have oh, I made a candydrawer.
I got like airheads and like Iguess I got other like healthier

(08:41):
shit in there too, like youknow, that dry roasted the mommy
and stuff.
But it's my nice little drawer.
I grab like a little individualsnack, might have some peanuts,
might be some candy, whatever,and it's it's super awesome.

SPEAKER_05 (08:51):
It sounds like you're loving your new house,
and I love it.

SPEAKER_01 (08:53):
I'm loving the new house, it's really nice, it's
really nice.

SPEAKER_00 (08:55):
This is the first episode from the new house.
You no longer look like you'rein the room where they film ISIS
B headings.

SPEAKER_01 (09:02):
Yeah, I last time I was in the Airbnb, and it's this
big.
The whole Airbnb is, but justfrom here to here.
It's like there's no room.

SPEAKER_05 (09:11):
So like Oakley's sleeping, and I'm trying to like
you've been on the road sincethe wedding.

SPEAKER_01 (09:17):
I oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 (09:18):
That's why I was like, I was mathing that in my
brain.

SPEAKER_03 (09:20):
I was like, wait, you're still on the road is
crazy.

SPEAKER_00 (09:23):
It's but it's the time we're recording this.
It was a month ago at thewedding.
We were all together there.

SPEAKER_01 (09:28):
And I flew back and I'm just packing stuff.
I still have the pod.
I still have the pod that gotdelivered here.
I still got a few things in it,but like almost everything is
out.
We're getting there.
We're getting there.
That's where I'm at.
Where are you guys at?

SPEAKER_05 (09:42):
I was telling Mike to text Michael and tell him to
get on the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 (09:45):
Talking about higher-up wellness.
Oh, yeah.
I got to meet him at theScotty's wedding, which was
nice.
Yep.
Good to hang out with him.

SPEAKER_05 (09:52):
I was like, just hail Mary that one.
How long did it take you to geton the podcast?

SPEAKER_00 (09:56):
I don't know if he'd I could text him.
I don't know if he'll see it bythe time it's over.
Yeah.
But um speaking of people whoaren't here right now, Rob uh,
Rob is not present, which is whyI'm here.
So uh sorry, everybody.
Or uh you're welcome, everybody,who does like to hear when I'm
on the podcast.

SPEAKER_05 (10:15):
You sound like you're on really frequently.

SPEAKER_00 (10:17):
I am on very frequently.
Um really, it's it's anytimethat somebody can't host, I'm
here.
Anytime that they don't have aguest, I am also here.

SPEAKER_05 (10:28):
You have a lot of availability and I like it.

SPEAKER_00 (10:30):
Yeah, I it's it's just know it at night.

SPEAKER_01 (10:32):
I think pizza plan is available for our plan.
Our pl no, our plan of getting anew DeLorean was because we not
my god.
Yes, we've we've after lastweek.
After last week, we havedecided.
I I spoke about this last weekon the podcast, we're gonna save
up and we're gonna pitch in andwe're gonna get a DeLorean.

SPEAKER_05 (10:53):
How much is a DeLorean?

SPEAKER_01 (10:54):
Well, depends.
Yeah, which one are you talkingabout?
The 1983 one used is about$40,000.
But if you want a new one,because there's a new line of
them, there's a new line, andevery week I make someone guess
because it's a recurring bitwhere we talk about the new
DeLorean.
Guess how much the new line ofDeLoreans is the starting price.

SPEAKER_05 (11:14):
And this is like an actually recently made one.

SPEAKER_01 (11:17):
They're making it right now, currently, that's in
production.
It's gonna be available soon.
It's an EV starting price.
Where does it start?

SPEAKER_05 (11:24):
The other one's $40,000.

SPEAKER_01 (11:25):
Well, that's like a used one now, isn't it?
$40,000 to$60,000.

SPEAKER_05 (11:29):
My Toxic Trade is still thinking that like a used
one, like from that time, isgonna be more than a lot of
people.

SPEAKER_01 (11:33):
I don't remember how much they started that.
Probably more than that.

SPEAKER_05 (11:36):
I'm gonna say $80,000.

SPEAKER_01 (11:38):
Close.
It's$250,000.
Saying close is seems like thebiggest gaslight.
It is a quarter million ofdollars for this.

SPEAKER_03 (11:46):
For a DeLorean for a new DeLorean.
That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (11:50):
We're gonna be saving for the rest of our
lives, but we're gonna be we'regonna get one.
I was screaming at my car radio.

SPEAKER_05 (11:58):
I'll be so if you get one of those ones, I'll be
disappointed in you.
If you get the$40,000 one, lessdisappointed.

SPEAKER_01 (12:04):
Like to me, how much less disappointed?
Because that's important.

SPEAKER_05 (12:08):
I'll be significantly less disappointed.
Because two$200,000 on a car.

SPEAKER_01 (12:13):
$250,000.
$250,000.

SPEAKER_05 (12:16):
Even worse.
That you could buy manyDeLoreans, like old DeLoreans
for that price.

SPEAKER_01 (12:20):
Oh, I can save children who need water.

SPEAKER_05 (12:23):
I'm sorry, you just went such a better route than I
did.
I was like, you could have alike a bunch of DeLoreans over
your house, and you're like, Ican save children.
And I'm like, I'm an asshole.
But there's a fly.

SPEAKER_00 (12:33):
Um do you know why he wants this car?
Do you know?

SPEAKER_05 (12:36):
That's what I was about to say.
I was about to say my problem isit gets worse.
If you spend$250,000 for a car,for a joke, you don't even
really care that much aboutdriving, but you just want to be
able to tell people you've neverseen Back to the Future.
It's all for a joke.
It is a quarter million dollarjoke.
If you spend a house on thatjoke, then I would also be
judging, I would be like, Well,how much are you actually

(12:56):
making?
I'd be like, you have to be verywell off.

SPEAKER_01 (12:59):
I'm not making that quarter million dollars on
Delorean.

SPEAKER_05 (13:04):
Like billionaires, even like millionaires could do
that.

SPEAKER_01 (13:08):
But like Yeah, that's not me.
No, no, I'm just gonna sell myhouse and just buy in a
two-seater car.
But Oakley, you gotta hear thisjoke, though.
It's gonna be.

(13:30):
Like, where do you live?
Right there.

SPEAKER_05 (13:32):
Just tell me what year you want to go to.

SPEAKER_00 (13:34):
You've got a remote to your car that opens the doors
automatically.

SPEAKER_05 (13:38):
Oh my god, you okay.
It's literally called Back tothe Future.
Like, come on.
Do you really not know the plotof Back to the Future?

SPEAKER_01 (13:45):
I I know they go backwards in time.
They have to get it to a certainnumber of miles per hour in
order to go back in time.

SPEAKER_04 (13:52):
6069?

SPEAKER_01 (13:54):
60.
88.

SPEAKER_04 (13:56):
88.

SPEAKER_01 (13:57):
Let me show you.
Whose mine is in the gutter nowof the Alex fucking self enough.

SPEAKER_05 (14:02):
I told them, I told everyone my phone password at
the Olympia, and they were like,what?

SPEAKER_01 (14:08):
Is it 6969?

SPEAKER_05 (14:10):
You're very kind of 42069.
No, it's fuck 69.

SPEAKER_00 (14:14):
Fuck 69.
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05 (14:16):
Now everyone knows my phone password.

SPEAKER_00 (14:17):
You can put letters on yours?

SPEAKER_05 (14:19):
Is that bad?
Is that dangerous?
Yeah, I only have numbers.
Only if they're here.
I don't care if people know myphone password.
I've nothing to hide.
People are so weird about it.
Cheer goes.
They would have to meet you.
Like, is it okay?
They would have to do it.
I don't know how, because youknow how people like don't tell
me it's like it's not mypassword for literally anything
else.
No, you can't add numbers, butif you like, oh wait, it opens
for my face.

SPEAKER_01 (14:38):
Oh, you're talking about like old school.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (14:40):
So if you like look away.

unknown (14:42):
Come on.

SPEAKER_01 (14:42):
So you get the letters or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 (14:44):
When they're like all so it's like fuck and then
69.

SPEAKER_01 (14:48):
Real highbrow stuff.

SPEAKER_05 (14:50):
I don't I'm a child.

SPEAKER_01 (14:51):
That's why you're on this podcast.

SPEAKER_05 (14:53):
Hi.
But I've been on here threetimes.

SPEAKER_00 (14:56):
To talk about exactly this.
I am here to take a great issuewith Liam on something.
So when I heard you talkingabout this thing, first off, I
texted you about the DeLoreanand I said I want to wish you
like congratulations on the newhouse, but I was so angry about
you talking about how you hadn'tseen Back to the Future.
Right back to the Future.

SPEAKER_05 (15:17):
Oh, you were that angry about it?
It's a great movie.

SPEAKER_00 (15:19):
I want to show you something.

SPEAKER_05 (15:21):
Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_00 (15:21):
You better not show me the movie.
Okay.
Could you imagine we just sithere and watch the movie then?
Of the DeLorean Time Machine.
The actual screen used DeLoreantime machine.

SPEAKER_01 (15:32):
So wait, is that like a piece of the stuff?
So they built the time machine,they built it on the DeLorean
and they took pieces off andthen they sold it.

SPEAKER_00 (15:38):
So they refurbed it in 2012.
And the parts that they couldn'tbought sells a car.
Yes.
I have memorabilia all over myapartment.
I've got so much because I don'tknow what diapers cost, I have
so much back to the future shithere.

SPEAKER_05 (15:53):
Because I don't know what diapers cost.

SPEAKER_00 (15:55):
Because I don't know what diapers cost.

SPEAKER_05 (15:56):
Are you guys planning on having a baby soon?

SPEAKER_00 (15:58):
No.

SPEAKER_05 (15:59):
Oh, you're saying because you don't have kids.

SPEAKER_00 (16:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (16:01):
That's what that meant.
I was like, what is he saying?
My brain is across my brain.

SPEAKER_00 (16:06):
Are there back to the future diapers?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (16:08):
So I don't know.
I was literally like, what isthis reference that he's saying?

SPEAKER_00 (16:12):
Not only saying he hasn't seen Back to the Future,
but bragging about it andsetting up what is ultimately a
brilliant word.

SPEAKER_01 (16:20):
Bragging is a strong word.
What I'm saying is I never- Aquarter million dollar car is
bragging.
I'm s never, I've I've neverhappened to fall upon the TV
where it was playing and I hadthe time to watch it.
So what I'm saying is, why notutilize that for one of the best
jokes ever, is what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
And it would be a very goodjoke.

(16:41):
It it would.
Exactly.
I really want you to see Back tothe Future.
But it But it would ruin theentire, our entire plan would
just go.
Everything would fall apart.
Everything would fall apart,just like the DeLorean that they
would try to refurbish and soldoff the pieces.
Just like the DeLorean.

SPEAKER_05 (16:59):
I'm very shocked that you own that like
memorabilia.

SPEAKER_00 (17:02):
I if we want to do a whole separate episode.

SPEAKER_05 (17:05):
No, we can't do that.

SPEAKER_00 (17:06):
Where I dig into all my stuff.
Oh yeah.
No, that'll be the one where Ijust do this episode alone.

SPEAKER_05 (17:10):
Do you guys still not talk about anything on the
podcast?

SPEAKER_00 (17:14):
No.
Why would we?

SPEAKER_05 (17:16):
Is that really the turbulence?
You guys don't talk aboutanything still?

SPEAKER_00 (17:19):
I don't think we've talked about anything
substantive in.

SPEAKER_05 (17:22):
You go no, and then you laugh at me when I'm like,
let's just throw a Hail Mary inthere and see if someone else
will just hop onmid-conversation.

SPEAKER_01 (17:28):
Listen, we try and put little nuggets of wisdom in
there every once in a while.
Last week we talked about beinggrateful for shit and how that's
important.
You know, so there's likethere's stuff here and there,
but most most of it is like fuck69 jokes.

SPEAKER_05 (17:42):
Okay.
A child, that's fine.

SPEAKER_01 (17:44):
You know what?
Let's talk about the Olympia.
Somebody fill me in because Idon't really I've I've been too
busy.

SPEAKER_00 (17:50):
What happened?
Yeah, I don't know what theOlympia's about.
This is a fitness podcast.
So why don't you tell us whatthe Olympia is about?

SPEAKER_05 (17:58):
Yeah.
The Olympia is a bodybuildingshow, and it's the most popular
one.
And it's where they all competein different I want to say.

SPEAKER_01 (18:08):
They all get their speedos on and they all go get
away.

SPEAKER_05 (18:14):
They got bikini people.
Okay.
So like they're all wearingdifferent items of clothing.
The different items of clothing,the more, the more your body is
visible, the more jacked youneed to be in certain areas of
your body.

SPEAKER_01 (18:27):
So like so if I'm wearing pants, I don't need to
be very jacked.

SPEAKER_05 (18:30):
The boxer people don't have legs.
Like they don't train legs.
Like they don't need them.
Meanwhile, I like this group.

SPEAKER_01 (18:36):
How do I get into space?

SPEAKER_05 (18:37):
Speedo.
You just wear boxers and go onstage.

SPEAKER_01 (18:40):
Okay, I'm in.

SPEAKER_05 (18:41):
Technically, it's uh like it's like uh swim trunks.
Okay, and then from there it'suh speedo boys, and the speedo
people are usually the biggerones.
Oh no, the the briefs, the briefones are like the sea bums, and
then the last one is the thespeedo people, and those are
like Kai Chris Bumstead.

SPEAKER_01 (19:00):
I know who C Bum is, but just for those who don't
know.

SPEAKER_05 (19:03):
Oh, Chris Bumstead is like six or seven time Mr.
Olympia.
Well, not Mr.
Olympia, he won uh classicphysique.
Classic physique is basicallyI'm gonna say something
controversial and I whatever.
Um so basically classic physiqueis what Olymp Mr.
Olympia used to be, likebodybuilding wise, until they

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all just kept getting bigger andbigger and bigger and bigger on
steroids.
And so they went back to likewhat a classic look was, and
then slowly like C bombs startedgetting bigger.

SPEAKER_01 (19:33):
So like like when Arnold's Arnold, when Arnold was
there, was he was is like whatArnold that's all there was
there wasn't like an openbodybuilding.

SPEAKER_05 (19:41):
Classic is a new one, so it was uh he won open
bodybuilding okay before likethat's what bodybuilding was.
That's what open bodybuilding.
And then obviously, like theystarted getting bigger and
bigger from different drugusage, and then now the
bodybuilders are gigantic.
So I think like eight years ago,like C Bomb's been competing in

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um classic almost since itstarted, I believe.
Like, I think he started it liketwo years.
Yeah, so like I think he's wonit almost every year, except for
like two of them, um, like sinceit's been around.
And for that one, that's whatlike Arnold used to be.

SPEAKER_01 (20:19):
Okay.
I've seen a lot of peopleposting pictures comparing Chris
Bumstead to ArnoldSchwarzenegger.
Like I've seen like a little bitof a lot of people.

SPEAKER_05 (20:25):
Because that's like that's like what the look is
supposed to be, but then theyjust all took a lot of steroids
and got really big.

unknown (20:30):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (20:30):
And that's what open means.
So like it open means anybodycan compete.
So whatever they're taking,whatever they're using, they're
allowed to use it.

SPEAKER_05 (20:37):
I mean, I don't think it's like, yeah, I use
whatever you want.

SPEAKER_00 (20:40):
But wait, wait, so is there no weight?

SPEAKER_05 (20:42):
You can use whatever.
I don't know that much.
Like, I know that there'scertain heights and like there
are certain weights that youhave to be.
I think in the Olympia, everyonecompetes kind of against each
other.
But the thing with the heightdifference is take someone who's
like me, like 5'2 versus you,like you're like 6'2.
6'2, 6'3, yeah.

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Yeah.
And so what's nice is you'reover six feet, so you don't need
to lie about your height.
You don't need to like add someinches.

SPEAKER_01 (21:08):
I always add a couple when I can.

SPEAKER_05 (21:10):
You know, yeah.
Six, seven, six, eight.
That's where you measure from.
Our physiques are just that'scrazy.
Our physiques are would be likewildly different at our
different at our heights.
And so that's where the heightsneed to be within certain
ranges.

SPEAKER_01 (21:25):
Okay.
But so because something likeclassic have like a weight, like
if you're this, if you're ifyou're this tall, you can't be
over this weight.

SPEAKER_05 (21:32):
So I'm not like two years ago, C Bum.
I don't think open has a weightregulation.
That's right.
But like two years ago, peoplegot really I mean, it was
probably longer than that, butthey changed the weight
regulation like last minute andor not last minute, but like
pretty close.
And so C Bum had to super cut.
And I remember people werereally pissed about it because
it seemed like he wasn't gonnabe able to make it because he

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basically put on so much likedensity that he just had so much
muscle mass that it was hard forhim to get to under a certain
weight.

SPEAKER_01 (21:58):
Damn.

SPEAKER_05 (21:59):
Yeah, damn.

SPEAKER_01 (22:01):
But like in open, I feel like they're just like,
hey, go crazy to get literallyas big as freakishly.

SPEAKER_05 (22:06):
I saw Kai Green there, and he was crazy.
There were so many randompeople.
Like, I saw Randy Couture, likethe UFC fighter, and then I also
saw um oh my gosh, little John.
Like just walking around.
And I was like, I couldn't, thisis gonna sound awkward.

SPEAKER_00 (22:23):
Greater bodybuilders of our time.

SPEAKER_05 (22:25):
Okay, it was so random, and I was like, you
don't, I was like, you look sofamiliar.
And I was like, you literallylook like a rapper, and I
couldn't figure out who he wasfor the life of me.
And then finally someone goes,That's little John, and I was
like, No, wait, he's so much ohmy missed opportunity.
I didn't do that because he wasalready like walking away.

SPEAKER_00 (22:45):
Now I'm so funny.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (22:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (22:49):
I I sat out of this year's competition.
I felt that it would be unfairif I competed to all the other
competitors.
Yeah, I just wanted to make sureeveryone had a fair chance.

SPEAKER_04 (22:59):
It is sort of crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (23:00):
Like, I I went to yeah, I just went to the Arnold,
and you see these people inperson.
You're like, you are a massive.

SPEAKER_05 (23:05):
Oh wait, you just moved.
We're gonna go to the Arnoldthis year.

SPEAKER_01 (23:09):
Yeah.
You're probably not gonna go,are you?
I don't know.
Maybe it's not down the streetanymore.
It's not nearly as close as itwas before.
These people are like they'rejust massive.
They're just Arnold?
Yeah, like the open, like theany bodybuilding show.

SPEAKER_05 (23:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (23:25):
Shit.

SPEAKER_05 (23:26):
I'm not a I'm not a I mean, to me, that's it's not
fun.
I I like eating food a lot.
I totally agree.

SPEAKER_01 (23:33):
Yeah, I don't feel like starving myself to get to
like 5% body fat.
That sounds really not fun.

SPEAKER_05 (23:39):
No.

SPEAKER_00 (23:40):
I did it.
It wasn't good.
I didn't do bodybuilding, but Istarved myself for no medals.
I could have a TV show.
I starved myself for not aprize, and yeah, that was very
not fun.
It's it's not like when peopleI've had clients uh send me
pictures of bodybuilders.

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I've been like, you know, how dowe get to this?
Like, this is a goal of mine,and I have to have a very
difficult talk with them.
That like, first off, thisperson's body is not real.
Um secondly, they have to suck.

SPEAKER_05 (24:14):
So you like very well, not openly, I guess it's
maybe I'm other than your closefriends, but I was gonna say you
very openly talk so much smackabout people on like steroids
and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 (24:24):
What I I talk shit about is people lying about it.
Uh like because there are somany people in our industry that
are on the stuff and they're notopen about it.
They don't talk about it, theythey'll claim that they're
natural.
Even if they don't claim they'renatural, they just don't say
that they're taking it andthey're fucking huge.

SPEAKER_01 (24:40):
But they do take creatine, and that's why.
But you should take theirspecific type of creatine
because that's why they're thatbig.
That's of course supplement.

SPEAKER_00 (24:47):
The pre-workout is is what's doing it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, it's it's definitely not thethe BPC 157 and all the fucking
research chemicals and all thatbullshit.
It's anabolics run rampant inthe fitness space.
And it's if somebody wants to doit, it is what it is.
I I this is one of the reasonsthat I I I like Dr.
Mike's uh perspective on thisbecause he talks about how awful

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it is.
He talks about how it makes himangry, it makes him feel bad.
And I'm like, look, if he'sgonna do it, he's gonna do it.
But at least he's telling peoplethat it's happening and he's
telling people it's not good.

SPEAKER_05 (25:20):
I mean, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (25:23):
There's a lot of people who won't do that.

SPEAKER_01 (25:24):
Alex is on a ton of stuff right now, so she's
feeling a little insecure.

SPEAKER_05 (25:28):
Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_00 (25:29):
She's got a sharps container behind her right now.

SPEAKER_05 (25:31):
Just totally roin it out.
Uh no, I just I think that maybeI just I feel like I've become
so desensitized to certainthings, and maybe I need to have
more of an opinion on it.
But I just I don't I don't agreewith lying.
Like, don't lie and say, I'mnatural when you're not.
But I don't think ever like Idon't think everyone needs to
disclose, like, by the way, I'mnot natty, like outright all the

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time.
I'm very clearly supernatural.
Like, no one should be lookingat me being like, well, she must
be on stuff.
Um, but I don't I just don'tthink that people need to go out
of their way to do it.

unknown (26:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (26:07):
I mean really just being it becomes an issue
basically just when they go outof their way to say that they're
that they are natural.
And the reason they're thereason they're at the size they
are is because of thesesupplements.
Here's my link.
That's I think that's the mainissue.
I can see other ones, but likethat's gotta be the main
problem.

SPEAKER_05 (26:26):
And the longer I'm so sorry.
The longer you're in this space,the more you start to realize
like it's it's easier to tellwho's on stuff than who isn't.

SPEAKER_06 (26:36):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (26:36):
I'll be honest, I get more upset about people
saying that like cortisol is thereason you're fat than I do
about people lying about beingon steroids.

SPEAKER_00 (26:43):
Yeah, there's room to be angry at everybody.

SPEAKER_05 (26:47):
We need to talk about how much anger you have,
Mike, because you are always ona little rampage.

SPEAKER_00 (26:53):
I'm I I've been a little upset lately.
I I am actually now seeking sometherapy for certain things.
Um around that, around justuntreated trauma in general,
stuff that I've not talkedabout.
So yeah, it's um it's it's beena little while since I've been

(27:14):
in therapy.
It's like my my issue with theit's we're in an industry where
people look at our bodies andwant to emulate that.

SPEAKER_03 (27:23):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (27:24):
We we sell an image on our image, or we we sell, you
know, uh not necessarily likewe're trying to, but it's part
of it.
And that's what people aresaying, like with mine, with my
110-pound weight loss, peoplesee that they want to emulate
it.
But it especially with thesepeople who are very fitness
focused, very, you know, alwaysposting pictures and gym selfies

(27:46):
and everything, and then theyhave their code at the bottom.
You use code this to getwhatever at checkout.
And they're not telling peoplelike that's not how they got
there.

SPEAKER_01 (27:56):
I I think the best thing we can do, because I've I
get comments like, oh, I don'tknow, what's what's your diet
like?
You look good, so what's yourdiet like, or what's your
workout routine?
And every time I'm like, itdoesn't really matter.
Like it I tell them like what Ido, it doesn't really matter if
you copy it, it's not gonna bethe same thing.
And just having like contentcreators do that, I think is

(28:16):
really the best thing that wecan do.
I've that's I've got that'swhere I've got to do it.
I agree with that 100%.
Where I'm just like, hey, youcould copy my diet and my
workout plan, and you're notgonna have the same, you might
have better results.
Like, hey, I don't know, yourgenetics, everything's
different.
Like, you know, just tell them,like, do what something here,
here like guide, look, give themguidelines, right?
It's just like, hey, eatprotein, exercise regularly,

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lift weights, push yourselffairly hard, like that sort of
thing, right?

SPEAKER_05 (28:42):
Like after that, I do think that needs to become
more of the norm.
Like, to me, that's what it isis so many people are like,
well, here's my workout program,here's this.
And yeah, you like I think it'sgreat for people to have a
workout program that they canfollow, yes.
But I just think that so manypeople think that if they follow
the exact program that somebodyelse is following, then suddenly
they're gonna get the exact sameresults, and that's just not the
case.

SPEAKER_01 (29:02):
That's a that's an interesting one right there
because when I started gettinginto lifting, like I started
getting into lifting weights, Iremember I got um Jeff Nippert's
workout program, yeah, which islike a solid workout program.
Like I remember I did it, it wasit worked well for a while.
Uh, and that helped at thebeginning to have just like,
okay, I go in, what do I do?
Okay, squats, three sets, okay.

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Like have that and just do that,and then eventually I got a feel
for it and then continued on onmy own, and I don't I don't do
that stuff anymore.
I'm not doing like mesocycles oranything.

SPEAKER_05 (29:32):
Um I'm not hitting on having workout programs.
I want to be that, I want to beone of the people.

SPEAKER_01 (29:37):
I know you were, but but like we don't want you don't
want the person that's justlike, oh yeah, you have my
workout program to get myresults.
Yeah, like they're bodyshopping, and saying this is the
body I'm gonna do.

SPEAKER_05 (29:46):
What are your macros?
My macros are irrelevant to you.

SPEAKER_01 (29:49):
So, like, how do we kind of get the point across?
Like, hey, we could give youlike a workout program or
something.
We can give you something thatthat would hopefully work for
you and give you an idea ofwhere to start and what to do,
but like it's you it's not it'sit's not these specific rules um
that that you have to follow.
Because that's what I think itis in nutrition and fitness.

(30:09):
It's always like, oh, you gottawake up and take a shot of olive
oil, and that will lube yourcolon, and then you'll be good.
Like it's always these likeweird, sp very specific.
Oh, and what?
Dash of lemon in it.
Make sure it's just lemon.
Make sure it has seeds in it,too, because that's important.
Whatever.
Like it's always these veryspecific rules.
And like, I think telling peoplelike it doesn't need to be that.

SPEAKER_05 (30:30):
I think finding programs that you can try is
great.
And you can see how it works foryour schedule.
It can see how it works for likewhat your life is like.
And then you need to have enoughautonomy to be able to adjust
things on your own.
Because I think that's also partof the problem is people just
want to be told what to do.
What is it?
Teach a man to fish.
You're like, give a man a fish,you know, eat for a day, teach a
man a fish, eat for his life.

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Like it's the same thing.
It's like we give people theseprograms, but then they're like,
okay, well, I can't do five daysa week anymore.
So then they need to change itto three.
And then they're like, okay, anynew program.
So it's like understanding thatit is okay to be malleable and
also understanding that it isokay to change, I think is so
important.

SPEAKER_01 (31:05):
That people want, like you said, the people want
the just give me the diet tofollow.
Why can't you just tell me whatto eat?
And you know, that's we we'veencountered that all the time.
And getting it's this middleground though, that's tough
because you know, I tell people,like, oh, in moderation, what
the hell does that mean?
It's like, that's a toughfucking question because that is
different for everyone.
So I'm trying to give you someguidelines, but you have to

(31:29):
realize they are not scripture,they're not like you don't have
to follow everything to the T.
And getting people to find thatsort of middle ground where
like, hey, you have thisprogram, but if you miss a day,
that it that's fine.
You just go on to the next onebecause it can be very easy to
say, like, well, I had thisthree-day program and I could
only do two this week, so maybeI just don't go next week and

(31:49):
then I reset for three the weekafter that, like, you know, that
sort of thing.
And I think just kind of tryingto get across, like, uh yeah,
like you said, feel malleable.

SPEAKER_05 (31:57):
Because people don't love living in like the gray
area, and again, like they justlike being told to do not
everyone, but a lot of peopleare like that.

SPEAKER_00 (32:03):
A lot of people as somebody who used to be obese
and struggled tremendously witheating habits and overeating
habits, being in the gray areais a skill that needs to be
worked on and learned.
It's it's like intuitive eatingisn't a switch, it's something
you have to learn how to do.

SPEAKER_05 (32:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (32:25):
So, like a great example, I think, is just today.
April.
Um she said, like, okay, so shecomes home and she's like, I had
uh like cottage cheese andpeaches this morning, and I'm
like so hungry again.
I'm like, that's not a lot offood.
Like peaches and cottage cheese,I doubt you ate all that much of
it.
What is that, like 200 calories?
You probably didn't eat thatmuch.

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And she's like, Well, I feltlike it was a lot of food.
And so she made another plate offood and she's like, How many
calories is in this?
I immediately looked at it.
I was like, okay, two eggs.
One egg is 60 calories, two eggsis 120.
You have a piece of toast,that's roughly 70 calories.
So we'll say roughly 200.
You have some avocado on there,some like guacamole spread, but
it's a pretty very thin layer,so that's probably like 75
calories.
We're looking at 275, and thenyou have some grapes on there,

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the small thing of grapes.
It was, and yeah, and it waslike maybe 50 calories.
So this is like 340-ishcalories.
Like I could immediately look atthat and just go like this many.
But like when people start, theydon't have that skill, right?
So that's why they want to beable to say, just tell me what
foods to eat.
And so, like, it could be usefulat first, but you're not gonna
be able to do it long term.

(33:29):
So I think more just liketracking kind of what you eat,
as long as those don't triggerlike your you know, eating
disorder or whatever, too much,being able to track just for a
little bit to see.
So now, like, I can look at foodand be like, this is roughly
this many calories.
I've seen videos where peoplewell, they'll ask people, like
the average person, like, howmany calories is in this pizza?
And it's one of those likelarge, you know, uh um like Papa

(33:52):
John's pizzas or whatever.
And they're like, 500, 600,maybe?

SPEAKER_03 (33:56):
And it's like that's in the whole pizza, in the
pizza, whole pizza.

SPEAKER_01 (33:59):
And I'm like, that's two slices.
That was two slices, maybe.
Yeah, yeah, maybe 600, probablytwo slices, probably 300 each.
And but people have no idea theydon't know.
And I'm not trying to make funof them, they just don't know.
They've never done it tillthey're in track.

SPEAKER_00 (34:11):
They're not wrong for asking for like what should
I eat?
How should I move?
Like, that's a completelyunderstandable question.
And it would be great if that'sall it was, and we could just
give that to you and have it bethat, but you wouldn't learn
anything.

SPEAKER_03 (34:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (34:25):
Right.
So I think telling them, like,hey, so like maybe if you can
like track things and just havea general idea for how many
calories are in different foods,that would help out a lot.
That would be again, teachAmanda Fish.
That's what that would do, ishelp you long term.
But it's it's it's tough to it'sit's tough to it again.
People, like you said, don'twant to live in the gray zone.
It's kind of it's tougher tolive there, right?

(34:47):
It's easier when you have thosehard.
That's why intermittent fastingworks so well.

SPEAKER_00 (34:50):
We're laughing because it's not true.

SPEAKER_04 (34:53):
No, we're laughing because they watched me take a
sneaky photo.

SPEAKER_00 (34:57):
Oh, I didn't see that.

SPEAKER_04 (34:58):
You didn't see that.

SPEAKER_00 (35:00):
No, oh, I'm gonna look ridiculous.
Oh, gosh.
No, I'll do a right one.
Hey, Liam anyway.
I have so many pictures at thewedding with you, Liam, with
your mouth wide open.

unknown (35:12):
That's right.

SPEAKER_05 (35:13):
Why is your mouth always open?

unknown (35:14):
Oh.

SPEAKER_05 (35:15):
I have no pictures of you from the wedding.

SPEAKER_01 (35:18):
Oh, I didn't really take that many pictures myself.

SPEAKER_05 (35:20):
When did you leave?

SPEAKER_01 (35:22):
I left late.
I was there until like 11 or 12.
Yeah, until it all cleared out.
Yeah, I was like one of the lastpeople.

SPEAKER_05 (35:28):
And then I went to thee to you.
I literally said bye to you.
Oh my god.
I did.
You were leaving.
You were like waiting for yourUber.

SPEAKER_01 (35:36):
Yeah, I had to wait for it.
I had to go to the airport andthen sleep for like two hours in
a hotel and then go back forOakley's birthday.
That was fun.
That's crazy.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (35:45):
Did you guys talk about the wedding?
Did you do a debrief of like thefact that you were at Scotty K
Fitness's wedding?

SPEAKER_01 (35:51):
I've never done a debrief of anything, let alone
we just debriefed the Olympia.
The only thing I'm debriefing isthere.

SPEAKER_05 (35:58):
What'd you say?
You debriefed this ass beforegoing to bed.
It's correct.
Do you like how I said what didyou say?
And I literally just forbade himsend it back to you.

SPEAKER_01 (36:06):
We would keep back what you said and ask.

SPEAKER_03 (36:08):
Wait a minute.
You know what?
Yeah, that was crazy thing.

SPEAKER_00 (36:11):
I think the first episode after the wedding, it
was just you and me, Liam.
And I think we talked about it alittle bit then.

SPEAKER_05 (36:17):
It upsets me to my core that I regularly don't take
pictures of my friends.

SPEAKER_00 (36:21):
I don't have a ton of pictures from the wedding.
I have an I have at least onewith everybody.

SPEAKER_05 (36:25):
And then that's like Yeah, the selfie where we're all
sitting down.

SPEAKER_01 (36:28):
Yeah.
I have a ton of pictures of mydaughter, and that's about it.
Like I don't have a lot ofpictures of like other people.

SPEAKER_05 (36:33):
I have a lot of pictures of my dog.

SPEAKER_00 (36:35):
I have thousands of pictures of my cats.

SPEAKER_05 (36:37):
That's fair.
I don't think my phone knowswhat I look like.
I have a lot of pictures of mein the gym.

SPEAKER_01 (36:43):
There you go.

SPEAKER_05 (36:44):
Yeah, I'm very full of myself.
My thing is like I have so manyvideos of myself.

SPEAKER_01 (36:48):
I can look back at any time.

SPEAKER_05 (36:50):
Two in the morning is crazy.
That's my that's when I'm likeabout to wake up.

SPEAKER_00 (36:53):
Um I wake up, I'm like rubbing crusties out of my
eyes, and there's an alreadythree videos of you dancing.
I'm like, I'm I'm losing rightnow.

SPEAKER_05 (37:03):
You're not losing.
This is what I get so set aboutwith people.
Because people always likecompare what time they wake up
to me.
And I'm literally like, first ofall, I go to bed really early.
So if you really want to wake upearlier, go to bed like sooner.
But also, like when you wake updoesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
I wake up at the crack of noon.

(37:24):
You still have a crazy ass sleepschedule.

SPEAKER_01 (37:25):
Well, no, because I go to bed not super late, but
Oakley wakes up at six.
So I'm up for a while, and thenI go back to sleep, and then I
wake up.

SPEAKER_05 (37:33):
Do you go back to sleep or do you nap?

SPEAKER_01 (37:35):
I mean, what's what's qualifies as a fucking
nap?

SPEAKER_05 (37:37):
I'm gonna say anything longer than an hour.

SPEAKER_01 (37:40):
Oh, then yeah, I go back to sleep.
Longer, definitely longer thanan hour.
Like, I'm up to sleep.

SPEAKER_05 (37:43):
Okay, wait, what time do you go to bed?

SPEAKER_01 (37:45):
So I go to bed like 11, 12.

SPEAKER_05 (37:47):
So it's you're already getting like six hours
of sleep.

SPEAKER_01 (37:50):
So I get like six hours and then I sleep for
another like two.

SPEAKER_05 (37:52):
That's my literally worked in a sleep clinic.
Don't you know that that's notlike great for you?

SPEAKER_01 (37:56):
I mean, there's a lot, listen, the cocaine I do
isn't that great for me, butthat's what keeps me going.
People are taking.

SPEAKER_05 (38:08):
I was about to say, are we going back to steroids?

SPEAKER_00 (38:10):
Not going back, haven't started them yet.

SPEAKER_05 (38:12):
We still okay.
I get what you I get the jokethat you made.
I'm too literal becausesometimes people make jokes and
I'm like, what?
And I'm like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 (38:19):
Like, hold on, don't do it.

SPEAKER_05 (38:20):
Okay, okay.
Here's my thing.
I don't care if you do steroids,it's your choice, it's your
body.

SPEAKER_00 (38:24):
It would kill me so quick.
My body's not prepared.
You have to be healthy gettinginto it.
And I am not already healthy.
I I've got a heart condition.

SPEAKER_05 (38:33):
Um it would shut me down so quick.
I wonder if that would have messme up.

SPEAKER_00 (38:38):
Hey, high five.
Yeah, is that is that an issue?

SPEAKER_05 (38:41):
Someone told me that.
Someone said that my irregularheartbeat could be an issue like
down the line.

SPEAKER_01 (38:46):
Well, yeah, we're cardiologists.

SPEAKER_05 (38:47):
Let me just get Tommy Martin back on here.

SPEAKER_01 (38:50):
Uh he's not a cardiologist.
No, he's family, familypractice.

SPEAKER_05 (38:55):
Yeah, I think he's like a regular doctor.
He's literally in my phone.
Just a regular doctor.

SPEAKER_00 (38:59):
Doctor.
Normal doctor.

SPEAKER_05 (39:01):
Yeah, he just went to med school.
It's not a big deal.
Um, and he's like 30.
Um, like I'm pretty sure he'syounger than me, and I'm like,
oh, okay, you're a doctor.
Um in my phone, he's literallyDr.
Tommy Martin, but in case ofemergency, call real doctor.

SPEAKER_00 (39:15):
Well, if you and your family get into some kind
of an accident, then you go tothe family.

SPEAKER_05 (39:19):
Well, imagine if they like say doctor, and I'm
like, this is not my realdoctor.
That's you know, like people gothrough your phone, everyone
fucks 69, like they're gonna gothere.
If you get in an accident,anything happens, they get in
it.

SPEAKER_00 (39:31):
Wait, hold on.
Why is it when you get into anaccident, they're looking
through your phone to find adoctor?
Why wouldn't they just call 911?

SPEAKER_05 (39:40):
No, I meant like her phone.
No, I meant like if you're likein the hospital, you're like
they don't know anything.
Well, I don't know why theywould call a doctor, they'd
probably call my dad.
My dad's name is something likeweird on my phone, and he was
like, If we get in, if you getan accident, they're not gonna
know who to call.
And I was like, I'm gonna behonest, I don't think I'd want
them to call you anyways.
You never answer your phone.
I'm like, this isn't gonna helpme at all.

(40:02):
My emergency contact should bechoo choo-choo train.

SPEAKER_00 (40:04):
If our doctors look through our phones at some
point, they're trying to find anemergency contact, they scroll
by and see Scotty.
Oh, I love that guy.

SPEAKER_05 (40:11):
That or Dana, I guess they could call Scotty or
Kylie.
I'd have them call Kylie, to becompletely honest.

SPEAKER_00 (40:16):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
We gotta call, yeah.
Kylie's the adult.
But for all of us, at theAmerican Heart Association event
we did back in February, shekept us together.
We were just a bunch of monkeysperforming for uh we raised a
hundred thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_05 (40:31):
Yeah, we're talking about the new one in February.

SPEAKER_00 (40:35):
We're going for a million this next one.

SPEAKER_05 (40:38):
Jesus Christ.
It's I know they were like,you're gonna need two weeks off.
And I was like, I know I'm gonnabring my laptop.
I'll have my laptop with me, buttwo weeks with all of you
fucking knuckleheads are gonnabe crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (40:48):
I've already got a claim.
You're gonna have to change yourfucking password for your phone,
I'll tell you that much.

SPEAKER_05 (40:53):
I don't care.
Fucking fuck 69 on my phone asmuch as you want.

SPEAKER_01 (40:56):
Yeah, Liam, are you telling me?

SPEAKER_05 (40:57):
People are so weird about their phones.
Um maybe this is just me.
I mean, I would never go throughsomebody else's phone, but I'm
also like I have to do that.

SPEAKER_01 (41:04):
Do you not have like naked pictures of yourself on
your phone?
I 100% have those.

SPEAKER_05 (41:08):
Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 (41:09):
No, really?

SPEAKER_05 (41:10):
They're in a hidden folder.

SPEAKER_01 (41:11):
Oh, okay.
Well, that's fine.
I feel like everyone should havemy face ID for that.

SPEAKER_05 (41:15):
You can't even use my passcode.
I'm so single.
Why would I have naked picturesof my phone?

SPEAKER_01 (41:20):
I feel like everyone should.

SPEAKER_00 (41:21):
I feel like no everyone's.

SPEAKER_05 (41:23):
Well, I would I would do that if I was married.
No, I'm single.

SPEAKER_00 (41:25):
I just take a thousand pictures of my balls to
the CIA agent that's watching myphone.
That's crazy.
It's gotta look at it all thetime.

SPEAKER_05 (41:34):
That's right.
You made a joke about me beingsingle earlier.

SPEAKER_00 (41:36):
Did we?

SPEAKER_05 (41:37):
You did on the phone.

SPEAKER_00 (41:38):
I did.

SPEAKER_05 (41:39):
Yeah, you were literally like, we're gonna
whore you out.

SPEAKER_00 (41:41):
And I was like, No, oh, okay.
No, I said we're gonna have abachelorette auction.
Yeah, so you made it quitedirty.
You're talking about the phoneconversation we had earlier
before this.

SPEAKER_03 (41:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (41:54):
Yeah.
I said we need to have you abachelorette auction because you
can.

SPEAKER_03 (41:57):
And that'd be like one of the episodes we do
bachelor for Alex.

SPEAKER_00 (42:01):
Yeah.

unknown (42:01):
Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 (42:02):
I've talked about doing a bachelor auction for
Rob.
And uh like, uh why don't wehave like a live in moderation
and we just sell you guys offfor charity?
We could put this, we could havethis as part of the American
Heart Association.

SPEAKER_01 (42:15):
I'd rather be sold for something more fun, like
cottage cheese.

SPEAKER_05 (42:19):
I thought you like cottage cheese.

SPEAKER_01 (42:21):
I do.
I do a preteen thing.

SPEAKER_05 (42:24):
What is the thing that you don't like?

SPEAKER_01 (42:25):
What's the thing I don't like?
Fat-free cheese.

SPEAKER_05 (42:28):
No, I swear you used to be a cottage cheese hater,
and now this is making it.

SPEAKER_01 (42:31):
No, people always just thought I was a cottage
cheese hater because I keep theykeep tagging me cottage cheese
ice cream and brownies and shit.

SPEAKER_05 (42:36):
Oh, you're just like, I don't think cottage
cheese belongs in everything.

SPEAKER_01 (42:39):
Of course, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 (42:40):
See, I think that was the what confused me.

SPEAKER_01 (42:43):
Yeah, no, it confuses a lot of people, and I
keep having to reiterate likeplease have it with your
friends.

SPEAKER_05 (42:47):
I felt so connected to you when I thought you were a
fellow hater.

SPEAKER_01 (42:49):
No, I'm not a fellow hater.
I there's a lot of things Ihate.

SPEAKER_05 (42:52):
Yeah, you hate stevia.

SPEAKER_01 (42:54):
I hate stevia.
Oh, I don't like stevia.
It's such a oh, it's natural.
Fuck out of here.
It's naturally shitty.
I don't like it.

SPEAKER_00 (43:03):
It's not got the best taste.

SPEAKER_01 (43:06):
I can give that to you.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (43:08):
It's like a wrong sort of I use stevia like every
day.
Why?
What's but you don't taste thatlike back end, like I used to do
like two little droplets of mycoffee.
Not like droppers.
I like little drops.

SPEAKER_00 (43:20):
I've got the powdered stuff.
I don't even use it that much.

SPEAKER_05 (43:23):
That doesn't even like dissolve.

SPEAKER_00 (43:25):
I've got you know the um it's I've been using cold
coffees, that's part of it.
Granular monk fruit.

SPEAKER_05 (43:32):
Yeah, I like that stuff.

SPEAKER_01 (43:33):
It's no, it's erythritol and monk fruit
together.
So like it's in erythritoltastes pretty much like sugar.
So like the monk fruit isn't toobad.
It's not like pure monk fruit,which that does taste weird.
So like it's a decent balance.
I use that as well.
I like that.
So yeah, you need that.
You need like a little bit ofthe the more I find the more
sweeteners you mix together, thebetter.
I want a drink that just has allof them except Stevia, every

(43:56):
single other one.
But a little bit of each.
I I want guys, guys.
No, wait, wait, wait.
Seriously, seriously, seriously,seriously.
I think I'm gonna get aDeLorean.
No, I think I have an idea aboutlike my next tattoo.
Aspartame.

SPEAKER_05 (44:12):
I'm sorry.
What do you think?
I didn't even know you havetattoos.
I got tattoos.
Oh, wait, I did know that.
I actually did know that one.
You're gonna get aspartame.

SPEAKER_00 (44:22):
This is this is great for an audio medium, by
the way.

SPEAKER_05 (44:25):
Oh, yeah, because no one can see anything.
Can you describe it?
Is there no video?
Is it just audio?
He goes, No, it's crazy.
I swear you've described yourtattoos before on the podcast
when I'm thinking about it.

SPEAKER_01 (44:35):
Yeah, I've yeah, I've described them several
times.

SPEAKER_05 (44:39):
Um I swear Patreon only.

SPEAKER_01 (44:42):
No, but I'm thinking the chemical.
Negotiate with bush beans.

SPEAKER_05 (44:46):
Oh, wait, that's way cooler than what I was gonna
say.
I was gonna say make your likemake your thing with bush beans
and be like, give me tendollars.
No, pay for my tattoo and I'llget it.
And I'll say I'm sponsored byyou guys.

SPEAKER_01 (44:58):
By beans?
Am I gonna get a tattoo of bean?
Am I gonna get a tattoo ofbushes or just a bean?

SPEAKER_05 (45:03):
Just a bean.

SPEAKER_01 (45:04):
Oh, okay.
I would do just a bean.
I would do just a business.

SPEAKER_05 (45:06):
I would not do bushes.

SPEAKER_01 (45:07):
You know how people do a teardrop?
It's gonna be a bean.
It's gonna be a fake.
Little kidney bean.
Just like a small little kidneybean.
Just falling down.
Imagine I imagine I get one ofthose and I start doing videos
and I never talk about it.

SPEAKER_03 (45:20):
Just never say you get a fake one and just no fake
ones that less.

SPEAKER_01 (45:26):
Yeah, and I'll get a little fake kidney bean.

SPEAKER_03 (45:29):
That would be so I would die.
I would you can't wink at thecamera, you can't acknowledge it
at all.

SPEAKER_01 (45:34):
Did you get a bean tattoo in the corner of your
eye?
Like, no, I don't know whatyou're talking about.

SPEAKER_05 (45:38):
I would die.
Just never address it.
It would be so funny.
And then one day.

SPEAKER_01 (45:42):
Brilliant for engagement.
That would be really funny.
I I think I might need to find atemporary tattoo on it.

SPEAKER_05 (45:48):
You can definitely find a temporary one online.

SPEAKER_01 (45:49):
Okay, well, I'm still thinking I get a real one
though, aspartame and thechemical makeup of it.
And just and just fucking ownthat shit.
What is the chemical makeup ofit?
I don't know.
It'll look fine.
They all look similar enough.
Like people are like, oh, isthat serotonin or cocaine?
I can't tell.

SPEAKER_05 (46:04):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, that just I mean, I thinkit would be funny.
I'm I'm here for the joke.

SPEAKER_01 (46:09):
That's pretty most of my life is just like it's
kind of a long one.

SPEAKER_05 (46:13):
C14H18N2O.

SPEAKER_01 (46:16):
Oh, it is kind of a yeah.
It depends on your definition oflong, but like, yeah, it is sort
of there.

SPEAKER_05 (46:21):
No, it's average.
It's very average.

SPEAKER_00 (46:23):
Actually, I think that's it's perfectly fine of a
size of a molecule.
Some would say it's too big.

SPEAKER_05 (46:29):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (46:30):
I this one's not, I mean, like, I mean, I wouldn't
put it anywhere.

SPEAKER_05 (46:33):
This is just H2O.

SPEAKER_01 (46:35):
But maybe just like on my like leg or something like
that.
I get aspertames like symbol.
That would be fucking I don'tknow.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 (46:42):
Is H2O technically the right molecule?
Why is sleep mode?
Oh, it's my bedtime.
I was like, why is sleep mode onmy phone?

SPEAKER_00 (46:49):
Yeah, we are way past your bedtime right now.

SPEAKER_05 (46:52):
You're not way past my bedtime.
This is usually my bedtime.
I'm usually in bed around eight.

SPEAKER_01 (46:57):
Hawaii or something, right?

SPEAKER_05 (46:58):
What'd you say?

SPEAKER_01 (46:59):
You live in Hawaii or something, right?
Where it's like 2 p.m.

SPEAKER_05 (47:03):
I think you're what an hour ahead of me.

SPEAKER_01 (47:05):
Oh, yeah, it's it's 10 o'clock here.

SPEAKER_05 (47:06):
Yeah, it's nine here.

SPEAKER_01 (47:07):
Oh, okay.
So yeah, it's actually not sobad.

SPEAKER_05 (47:09):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (47:10):
When I texted you earlier and I'm like, hey, you
want to come on at nine o'clock?

SPEAKER_05 (47:15):
Nine.
No, I'm not.
I go, no, I go PM.

SPEAKER_01 (47:20):
Yeah, PM.

SPEAKER_05 (47:21):
I'm like, excuse me.
Is this math mathing?

SPEAKER_01 (47:25):
Yeah.
All right.
I think I've decided aspartameon the like.

SPEAKER_05 (47:29):
I like that for you.
Are you gonna do it like big orsmall?

SPEAKER_01 (47:32):
Average.

SPEAKER_00 (47:33):
I got I got a text from the producer.

SPEAKER_05 (47:36):
Robert.

SPEAKER_00 (47:37):
And he says, why is aspartame not on his ass?

SPEAKER_01 (47:40):
Aspirtame ass?

SPEAKER_00 (47:41):
Ass aspartame.

SPEAKER_05 (47:43):
Is he listening, but not like even participating?

SPEAKER_01 (47:46):
He's present, just like yeah, I think he's coming
overwise.
He just knows we're talkingabout aspartame.

SPEAKER_03 (47:52):
So I was literally like, what do you mean?

SPEAKER_04 (47:53):
I was like, how does he know that?

SPEAKER_00 (47:55):
Totally unconnected thought.
He's just like I was soconfused.
Tell Liam to do this.
Soul bonded.

SPEAKER_01 (48:03):
The only other one I know I want to get is my dog's
paw like over my heart.

SPEAKER_04 (48:06):
Oh, that's that one.

SPEAKER_01 (48:08):
Because I have one good dog.

SPEAKER_04 (48:10):
One good dog is crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (48:11):
No, I have a dog.
Listen, I have a dog that Iwould give a kidney to, and then
I have other dogs.
I have other dogs.

SPEAKER_05 (48:19):
I've never met somebody who speaks about their
dogs like this.

SPEAKER_01 (48:22):
No, and listen, I'm not saying that's not.

SPEAKER_05 (48:23):
I speak about like my hamsters like this.

SPEAKER_01 (48:26):
They're dogs.
They're dogs.
But there's one dog I have thatis just the best dog you have
ever met.
I don't I will put her againstany other dog out there.

SPEAKER_05 (48:34):
I mean, I love my dog a lot, so I'm gonna have to
argue that.
That's okay.

SPEAKER_01 (48:37):
But yeah, I'm gonna get that, and then I'm gonna get
aspartame.
Those are the things.

SPEAKER_05 (48:40):
I'm gonna get an outline of my dog's head.

SPEAKER_01 (48:43):
Like a little like a little with like fuck 69 in it,
or like I was gonna get herheartbeat actually, because I
thought that was cute.

SPEAKER_05 (48:50):
Um, I'm not getting Fox 69 on me for any purposes.
I'm just gonna say I don't wantpeople to know my phone password
just from like looking at me.

SPEAKER_01 (48:57):
Yeah, that's the only reason to not get a fuck 69
tattoo.

SPEAKER_05 (49:03):
If if someone orders me a fake temporary tattoo of
Fuck 69, I'll put it on me.

SPEAKER_00 (49:08):
Can you get custom fake tattoos?
Yeah, oh yeah.
Do you like like like a print toorder website?

SPEAKER_05 (49:13):
We can find anything.
We can find fucking drugs onthere.
Of course, you can find atemporary tattoo.

SPEAKER_00 (49:18):
We can get the drugs inject it into us.
Not the drugs, just so I canblock that website.
And not go to the website, whichwould be crazy.
What's the name of the website?

SPEAKER_05 (49:30):
How's how not what's the name of the website?

SPEAKER_00 (49:33):
I just I want to put it in my parental blocks so I
can't go to it.

SPEAKER_01 (49:37):
You wouldn't go to it anymore.
It's a block.
Wait, hold on.
Your parental blocks block you.
That's how that works.

SPEAKER_00 (49:44):
I don't have kids, so it's who else.
You get one of those brickdevices, you know, the the the
the brick, the Bluetooth brickthat you can use on your phone.
It's basically what it is, it'slike it's it's a Bluetooth, it's
literally a little brick, andyou tap it to the back of your
phone, okay, and itautomatically locks whatever app
you don't want to use throughthe day.

(50:05):
So like if you scroll too muchor you're looking at your phone
too much, playing games orwhatever.
And the only way you can unlockit is if you tap the brick back
on in the camp.
So it makes it so like yeah, youcan leave the brick at home and
basically leave your apps athome.

SPEAKER_05 (50:19):
Oh, that's the idea.

SPEAKER_00 (50:21):
Okay.
So you can still have access.
We theorize that because youdon't post any stories, you
probably have a pretty healthyrelationship with social media.

SPEAKER_01 (50:33):
I'd say it's pretty good.
Like, I I try I will post avideo, I'll try and respond to
comments, but I'm not living inthat shit, and I'm not like
constantly scrolling or anythinglike that.

SPEAKER_05 (50:42):
Well, when you get tagged and so much stuff that
you don't really need to scrollto find to react to anything.

SPEAKER_01 (50:47):
I just check my tag section, I I skim through that,
and then I call that's that'spretty much it.
I'll do like a little scrollingat some point if there's like if
there's downtime or something.

SPEAKER_05 (50:56):
What's on your feed?

SPEAKER_01 (50:57):
What is on my feed?
Um fucking Zach D films for somereason.
I get that keeps popping up.
Have you guys not the have you?
It's the animated thing.
Yeah, he's millions, he has likemillions.
He does he's like he's like theguy who entered the room and got
shot and they show like thecrazy, like the crazy animation.

SPEAKER_05 (51:15):
Yeah, one always is crazy to me.

SPEAKER_01 (51:16):
Yeah, yeah, it's always crazy shit.
I'm like, sure, I guess I'm I'min it.
Lots of animals, tons of likeanimal things, a lot of animals,
and then like D D stuff, I'dsay.
Like I get a lot of likeDungeons and Dragons humor and
stuff like that.
I haven't played in a littlewhile, but like no, you weren't
there until the wedding.

SPEAKER_05 (51:35):
Because I was like, they tried to play it at the
Olympia.
Oh because everyone played it atScotty's wedding, and then they
were like, we need to play itagain.

SPEAKER_01 (51:42):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, the dice.
I've got this right here.

SPEAKER_00 (51:45):
That was really cool.

SPEAKER_05 (51:46):
They're great for a uh audio.

SPEAKER_00 (51:48):
Yeah, I guess.
No, I I will not be describingwhat I'm holding here.
You could look it up.

SPEAKER_03 (51:53):
You can look it up online.

SPEAKER_00 (51:55):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (51:55):
So yeah, we don't got a time at Scotty's wedding.
Yeah.
Yeah, like so like yeah, I'dprobably say like that.

SPEAKER_05 (52:02):
I've never played it.

SPEAKER_00 (52:03):
Uh can we do an inmoderation DD one night?

SPEAKER_05 (52:07):
Like an episode?

SPEAKER_00 (52:08):
Like a like a special.

SPEAKER_05 (52:10):
Oh, you mean like those like scary story?
What?

SPEAKER_01 (52:12):
I'd be totally in on like a DD, a short DD.
Would that work?

SPEAKER_05 (52:16):
A one shot, yeah?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (52:18):
Oh, they're yeah, it would be a few hours, but it
it's it would be like a special.

SPEAKER_05 (52:23):
Can we do like a condensed like flash version?
That's like an hour.

SPEAKER_00 (52:26):
That's what the one shot is.
It is condensed.

SPEAKER_01 (52:28):
A one shot, one shot.

SPEAKER_05 (52:29):
A one shot is like multiple hours.

SPEAKER_01 (52:32):
Yeah, usually it's like three.
That's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 (52:35):
So is that one?

SPEAKER_01 (52:36):
Because well, a campaign is normally like months
of play, like months.

SPEAKER_05 (52:39):
I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 (52:40):
Yeah, well, you you meet for like a couple hours,
like a week or whatever, andover the course of months, like
you play the campaign.
The same campaign.

SPEAKER_00 (52:47):
My best friend did one for eight years.
He just got done with it.
Damn, that's a long ass time.
Shout out to Andy.
Yeah, it's it's eight years theydid it.
There were some people thatweren't there at the end, they
like cycled out and they had tokill off the characters in the
canon.

SPEAKER_01 (53:03):
Yep.
It was so like that's why oneshot is still like a few hours.
It still takes a little while.

SPEAKER_00 (53:09):
Huh.

SPEAKER_01 (53:10):
So yeah, it's fine.
I do enjoy it.
I like D a lot though.

SPEAKER_00 (53:14):
Rob, if you're listening, how do you feel about
a DD one shot?

SPEAKER_05 (53:18):
How many people do we need?

SPEAKER_00 (53:20):
I mean, a few.

SPEAKER_01 (53:22):
You don't need you don't want a ton you because
otherwise it takes too long.
Yeah.
Small handful.
An average amount?

SPEAKER_05 (53:29):
Hey.
What's average?

SPEAKER_00 (53:32):
Two or three is definitely average, I would say.

SPEAKER_03 (53:35):
That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 (53:36):
It's really all you need.
I mean, it's it's kind of howyou play.
It's not about how many players.
And you're just showing off.
You've lost thought.
Did you think we were gonna getto the end of the show without
having some kind of joke likethis?

SPEAKER_01 (53:51):
I I don't think we're still in it.
Very, I think this is very onbrand for inmoderation.

SPEAKER_06 (53:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (53:56):
I haven't listened in a while.
I need to get back into it.

SPEAKER_01 (53:59):
It's yeah, it's inmoderation featuring dick
jokes.
That's what it is.

SPEAKER_04 (54:03):
And fuck 69, that's why.

SPEAKER_00 (54:07):
Do we have a comment box anywhere where people can
send like thoughts and feedbackon the show?
Yeah, like feedback on the show,questions, criticism.
Like we've got I get people likein my DMs that know me from just
in moderation, which is crazy.

SPEAKER_05 (54:24):
I like that you're just like a co-host at this
point.

SPEAKER_00 (54:26):
Pretty much, yeah.
I don't know how it happened,but I'm glad to be here.

SPEAKER_01 (54:31):
We just have fun.
Like, I mean, that's what I'msaying.
Like, with a podcast, it's justa place to have fun.
Because I think it's just toomuch serious shit out there.
And I'm like, I just want aplace where I can just laugh and
be dumb and you guys might havecomments off.
Have a good time.
Because like it's just it's alljust too, it's always just
fucking too much.

SPEAKER_05 (54:48):
I think people get to it's all very serious.

SPEAKER_01 (54:50):
It's so serious, especially in the fitness space.
Fuck that shit, man.

SPEAKER_00 (54:55):
Everybody's so angry.
Mike is angry, which is not I'mI'm not known as the angry guy.
I've been fairly angry lately,and I don't want to be going for
you.
It's not great.
It doesn't feel good.
I don't love it.
And that's why I need to talk tosomebody about it.
It's how's working.
Therapy is important.
It is important.

SPEAKER_01 (55:16):
I need to get into I need to get a therapist here in
yeah, in New York.
It's we need therapy.

SPEAKER_00 (55:24):
I I'm not in it currently.

SPEAKER_05 (55:26):
Oh, I thought you were saying you're back in
therapy because you've beenangry.

SPEAKER_00 (55:29):
I'm about to.
That's the thing.
Like I am seeking it.
Yeah.
It's I I feel like we shouldseek therapy just like we seek
doctors' checkups, you know.
We should and go through coursesof it every once in a while.
And that's what I plan to do.
So you know, hopefully I cansort of get back to the uh the
the mic needs a plan thateverybody knows that some people

(55:51):
know.
That's some people.

SPEAKER_05 (55:54):
I like that you're like normalizing therapy because
I think not a lot of peoplethink that it's normal stuff.

SPEAKER_01 (55:59):
It's gotten better over the years.
Like it used to be never talkedabout it, but I feel like now
it's gotten a little better, butit's still right, it's still
not.

SPEAKER_05 (56:05):
I'm in therapy, it's been great.

SPEAKER_01 (56:07):
Yeah, I think it's fantastic.

SPEAKER_05 (56:09):
Mike's on the crash out in what June?

SPEAKER_00 (56:11):
It's valid, though.
It's uh like it all of our crashouts are valid in one way or
another.
It's it's how we go about it.

SPEAKER_05 (56:19):
I had never crashed out until this year, like that.

SPEAKER_00 (56:23):
Never?

SPEAKER_05 (56:24):
Not like that.

SPEAKER_00 (56:24):
Oh, you were just the first that's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 (56:27):
I don't want to ever crash out again.
I crashed out again this lastweek.
It was great.
Um I had never what?
Again, justified is crazy.

SPEAKER_00 (56:37):
Justified.
You're not you weren't wrong.
We won't get into it, but youweren't wrong.

SPEAKER_05 (56:41):
Well, I just think, well, no, technically I was.
I actually think this isimportant.
Like, so I think crashing out, Ithink depending on what your
crash out is, it can beunderstandable because it is a
response to something that isgoing on.
But I do also think that it'sreally important for us to take
accountability of when we'rereacting versus when we're
responding and when we maybeneed an opportunity to regulate

(57:04):
before we crash out, like inquotations.
So like it depends like whatyou're justifying as like a
crash out.
Because when I told like I toldScotty I like crashed out and he
was like, What did you do?
And I was like, Oh, I like senta text message, and he was like,
and I like explained what was init, and he was like, Oh, I
thought it was like way worsethan that.
And I was like, Oh, okay.
So this is where I think it'simportant to like, yeah, it's

(57:28):
okay to be upset.
Okay, I'm gonna how deep, okay.
I'm gonna get deep in a secondfor this one.
We can have a little this can beour meat and potatoes of this
episode.
Okay, but I think that peoplehave normalized reacting really,
really big and trying to justifykind of inappropriate behavior
sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 (57:47):

SPEAKER_05 (57:49):
Yeah, so to me, that's what I actually view as a
real crash out, which I I'venever done that.

SPEAKER_00 (57:53):
You're not lashing out at people, you're not
hurting people.

SPEAKER_05 (57:56):
No, and and I think that that's always important,
but then I also think that we'veon the other end of the spectrum
also normalized like protectingour peace, like in quotations,
to the point where we just cutpeople off without actually
dealing with our shit, and likewe aren't taking accountability
for the role that we're playingin hurting other people, like we

(58:17):
just want to avoid it, which Isee a lot even in like people
who like emotionally eat or likelike binge eating or um even
using the gym as therapy.
I think we actually talked aboutthis when I was on the podcast
before, because it's like one ofmy biggest pet peeves when
people say, like, the gym is mytherapy, and I'm like, it's not
therapy, it's a nice outletphysically, but it doesn't help
you emotionally regulate.

(58:38):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (58:39):
Lifting weights to fight my demons.

SPEAKER_05 (58:41):
I like how Liam's like, it's too serious out
there, and then I get serious.

SPEAKER_01 (58:45):
But it's serious though, and like I I mean, I
think you definitely have apoint where I think I think
working out is one of thosethings amongst many that help
you.
I think it does kind of help youregulate emotions in that like
things that are like stressrelief, like talking with
friends and all those things,they all sort of together help
you regulate your emotions, butlike it's not therapy, but it's

(59:08):
not actual therapy that helpsyou work through traumatic
experiences or whatever it is,right?
Yeah, you know.
So it's a little bit of both.

SPEAKER_00 (59:17):
Yeah, it's it's it's gotta be a varied approach.
You need a diversified portfolioof things that keep you sane.
And if if I honestly take a lookat my life over the last eight
or nine months, it's uh myportfolio has been shrinking a
little bit, and it has directlycorrelated with my mental state.
I I I need to diversify it a bitmore and get back into being

(59:41):
more mindful.

SPEAKER_05 (59:42):
Do you think it's like how much time you're
spending on social media?

SPEAKER_00 (59:45):
That's definitely a part of it.
Like the the the piece of socialmedia that profits from us being
really fucking angry all thetime works even on the people
who are here posting content.
You know, it's like there is anindustry of people that make us
feel like shit to make us wantto buy their shit.

(01:00:06):
Like if it's if if you can makesomebody feel like they need you
or they need your product oryou're living a better life than
them, it's a lot easier to getpeople to open their wallets in
fear than in a Joy.
It's just like a psychologicalthing.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:20):
I might be speaking for Liam on this one, but I
remember like a while ago, Liamsaid that he switched his
content from being like kind ofcorrecting people to like
happier stuff and noticed a bigdifference in the engagement and
in like the people who areresponding.
And I mean, to me, like even Ithink I've found that when I'm

(01:00:41):
very like when I'm vulnerableand relatable, like people do
really like that.
And then also when I'm really,really happy, people love that.
Like they feel Marcine, theyfeel excited, they feel like
they feel hopeful.
And then a lot of the stuff thatI share that's vulnerable and
relatable, it's not crazy deep.
Like it is stuff that's hard andit hurts and it's it's real, but

(01:01:03):
it's not like rage baiting oranything like that.
And I think that a lot of times,I I think maybe this is my
perspective 100%.
I don't know like what theactual data or what anything
about this is.
This is my just opinion.
But I think that the ragebaiting just seems louder, and
like the meanness seems louderbecause it brings a lot of

(01:01:27):
people who are just typicallymore opinionated, more angry,
and a lot more people will likemore actively comment on that
than typically comment on happythings.
Because this is, and like maybethis is another topic that I
think is important to talkabout, but we need to normalize
like talking about things thatwe're really happy about and

(01:01:47):
then like hyping things upbecause we're like we enjoy it,
not just because we hate it andnot just because we have a
problem with it.
And I think that's probably likepart of the problem with like
society is like we we everyonewants to be like, yeah, fuck
those people.
I fucking sucks.
I hate this, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah.
It's more normalized to do thatthan it is to be like, oh my
god, this is so exciting! Like,this is so fun.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:08):
I think that's part of human nature, right?
To focus on the negative.
I mean, at least it, I mean, Idon't know, it kind of
negativity bias.
Yeah, where we just kind offocus on the things that are
wrong.
And when someone is being loudand we feel that they're wrong,
then we we that draws reactionfrom us, right?
Like from more people, andthat's that's that's common.

(01:02:28):
And so what I started like,yeah, I started doing videos
where I was like trying todebunking stuff and whatever.
And eventually I found I thinkwhat works best is just
laughing, it's just laughing atthese people that are just
telling you all these thingsthat are just like poison.
I'm just like, okay, drink DietCoke anyway, fuck out of here.
Like, I think that just kind ofbrings some levity and helps you

(01:02:49):
like, you know, it's it's allright.
Like, hey, don't it, don't youknow, it's as Scotty would say,
right?
It's not so it's not thatserious.
It's not that serious.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:57):
Seeing the shift in your content to just like you
will drop information andeducation in there, it's not
like substanceless, it but ityou seeing the levity that
you're bringing and like seeinghow goofy you've kind of become
in in such an empowering way hasmade me realize, you know what?
No, I don't have to go the wayof everybody else to keep

(01:03:18):
relevant here.
Like I can go back to having funand perhaps still keep an
audience.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:25):
I think people will feed off.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:26):
That's played a role in this.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:27):
Yeah, I think people will feed off like that.
That have like they if if yousee someone having fun, you like
you see like someone smiling andlaughing.
I would say most people, likethere's people that are always
just gonna be haters, like fuckthem, who gives a shit?
Um, but like I think most peoplelike they see you having fun and
that and that either like theyfeel more they feel more

(01:03:49):
comfortable to have funthemselves or whatever, I I
guess is maybe the thing,whereas like they see you having
fun and they're like, okay,well, you know, like uh, you
know, I it's okay for me tolaugh and and laugh at this
thing too and be silly and begoofy and all these things, and
that's that's you know, I I Ithink that helps people.
I don't I don't know.
It's social media is a weirdplace and trying to, you know,
communicate with people throughthese 40-second videos, right?

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:12):
It's not yeah, it's it it's it's been a struggle
trying to keep up with it.
And I was telling Alex, I wastelling you this before.
I don't I'm not an influencer,I'm just a coach that uses
social media to reach people.
Like I I don't consider myselfto be a personality, I just
happen to be seen by people, andit's uh doing the influencer

(01:04:33):
stuff is stressing me outbecause it's not my fucking job.

SPEAKER_04 (01:04:36):
I think that means the influencer stuff.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:39):
Like just trying to like you were saying before,
like correcting people andgetting angry and stuff, because
I feel like that's whateverybody wants.
And I'm not here to give themwhat they want, I'm here to give
them what they need.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:51):
But you've done some videos where you've just been
yourself and those do very andthose have at least have done
very well.
And I think you can find anaudience in just being who you
are.
Like that's what I do with myvideos.
It's like I'm just gonna be dumband silly and everything like
that, and maybe it won't connectwith anyone, but I'll have fun
doing it.
And I did, and it connected witha lot of people, and I think
that was the key is if you goout there and try and fake it

(01:05:14):
till you make it or whatever,you just probably you might
never make it because like youthink people tell you're faking
it the whole time.

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:21):
You just said something really interesting,
which you basically said likeyou don't like what you're
doing, and so why are you doingit?
And like you're doing you'relike, I'm doing it because they
like that's and getting peoplewhat they want.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, you don't know whatpeople want.
You're just making an assumptionbased off of maybe partially
data, based off of likeengagement and stuff, but also
like again, I like understandingthat this is our job.

(01:05:44):
So, yes, getting views, havingyour videos do well is still
important, but alsounderstanding that like if you
don't like what you're posting,you're not gonna have longevity
in it anyways, and you're gonnaburn yourself out.
And also, like, if you're notgetting the business or you're
not getting the conversion thatyou actually want, or even
making the impact.

(01:06:05):
Because also, to be fair, isthat actually the impact that
you want to be making?
Like to be this negative person,and so if it's not, then don't
do it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:14):
Yeah.
And it's uh just the other day Iposted a video that was kind of
like for me, what felt like thespiritual end of that era for me
of trying to chase trends andand data and stuff like that.
And I I I want to get back towhat used to be fun, like I used
to love this.

(01:06:35):
Like, uh I'm I'm back.
I got rid of all the videos Isaved, like all the things I was
gonna react to, and I'm justlike, I'm if I get 10 views on
my next video, but I enjoymaking it, it's it's better than
what I'm doing now.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:49):
But like here, okay, so like you you what you were
saying, like I get what you'resaying though, like you're
chasing trends and stuff likethat, because like you there are
people that want that sort ofstuff that really like uh the
the controversy, you know, alllike it can it can do very well,
but it's just not worth it aslike a toll on your mental
health.
So, like like you, the personyou introduced us, I am grateful

(01:07:10):
from last week.
Like, he all he does is justyeah, every week, every like
day, he's just like, I'mgrateful for and what he said
the video that blew up for himwas he was grateful for muffins.
Muffins.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:22):
I'm grateful for something.
Today dot i am dot grateful.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:28):
Yeah, and it's just like I'm grateful.
And like that's something likewhat is like I good friend,
right?

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:34):
Like, I think a lot of people would say today dot i
today dot i am, so iam dot.
I found him.

SPEAKER_05 (01:07:41):
I found him.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:41):
Yeah, yeah.
It's just like I'm grateful tohim.
You'll see him immediately.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:44):
That's like, hey, that's his thing.
That's what's something hewanted to do, and it and it did
and it works, and like it took awhile.
Like he said, he's he said hedid a ton of videos where he's
grateful for things and nothinghappened, and then muffins
happened, and you never knowwhen muffins are gonna happen.
It's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 (01:07:59):
Well, and the thing is too, like, even if you built
your like, because the hardthing is obviously like we've
built a following doing otherthings, and so when you've done
that and you change yourcontent, it's hard.
And so reminding yourself too,like the engagement might not be
there right away, and it mighttake some time before it is,
because you're getting peopleused to a shift, but also you

(01:08:21):
might even surprise yourselfbecause I've seen some stuff
that you've posted that it'skind of more back to your roots
and it's still performed well.
And then also, again, you haveto ask yourself like this is
kind of getting in the weeds oflike business and stuff, but you
also have to ask yourself, like,what is your overall objective
with social media?
Is it that you want toultimately make money just from
social media, or is it that youwant to actually fuel your
coaching business?

(01:08:42):
Because if it's that you want tofuel your coaching business, you
need to be educating people froma place that actually makes you
an authority figure in the spaceand would actually make people
want to work with you.
And so it's important toremember that there is kind of
like a balance between the two.
And like, yes, you candefinitely make content that
might get more reach, but alsoagain, like if you're not
enjoying it or it's not fun foryou, then like why are you gonna
do it?

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:01):
Yeah, yeah.
It was just trying to figure outcan I get more views on this?
Can I get more engagement onthis?
And it's I never posted anythingintentionally like inflammatory,
right?
But it's there were things whereI'm like, this is gonna make
people angry, and I'm gonna beangry too, so we can be angry
together.

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:19):
And I don't I don't actually mean fuck the views
because it is important becauseobviously like people like Liam
and Scotty, like they make a lotof their like a lot of the
finances come from views.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:29):
All pretty much all the money I make comes from
views.
I rarely do like brand deals orany coach, I don't do any
coaching, it's just from views.

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:36):
It's important to like not be ignorant to that
being like an important aspectof business.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:41):
But at the same time, right?

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:42):
Yeah.
But like you actually enjoy whatyou make.
And then even like like evenScotty, like he obviously enjoys
what he makes, and there's othercreators like that who are like,
no, I actually like enjoy makingthese kinds of videos.
And if you're like, I want to dothat, the other shitty truth of
it is okay, then maybe you haveto like spend some time eating
shit, making a different styleof video to then like have

(01:10:05):
eventually something come off.
But it's also important torecognize like that's not
guaranteed.
Yeah, people will be like, Oh, II know the secret to going viral
and I can always guarantee it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:14):
It's always bullshit.
I love those videos because theyalways have like 30 likes and
they're like with people who hadthey might have like 40,000
followers, which hey, that'sgreat to have 40,000 followers,
but you're like, you're teachingme who has like millions of
followers to get more.
Like, what do you do?
I I feel like I'm doing okay.
I don't need your help.
Thank you for your email, but Iwill politely decline, you know.

SPEAKER_05 (01:10:34):
It is yeah, but it's also like don't don't like lose
yourself to try to like appeaseeveryone else.
Yeah, I think that's like themost important thing.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:45):
I I definitely did that, and I've not spoken about
it yet or enough, and it's it'snot been good for my my mental
health.
Because you guys met me when Iwas talking about that stuff on
my page, and I people wereresponding to it well, you know,
and then I just kind of likebacked away from it.

(01:11:08):
That's a whole other thing, butit's yeah, I I miss it a lot and
I'm I'm excited to start doingit again, however it goes.
Because at least I'll be me.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:19):
I mean, the cool thing is too, you can always
refine it.
Like you can always like figureout like how can I make these
videos a little bit better, howcan I make them a little bit
more engaging, but you're notgonna know until you start doing
it.
Because also, again, likeliterally, actually, like if you
look at Liam's content versusScotty's content, and even
though I know we were jokingabout him earlier, but even like
Michael's content, like they'reall different, they're all

(01:11:40):
vastly different.
Like Liam does pretty muchstrictly response videos, and
they're all like that.
Scotty's heavily known for hismustache, so that definitely was
like a big thing, but he poppedoff because of his cooking
videos and because of themustache, and then he started to
like do a lot of other stuff andstart to like bridge that gap.
And then Michael just fuckingsits there and talks, and so

(01:12:02):
it's like literally, it's likehe says good things.
He does, it's it's very helpfulstuff.
He says it with conviction, andso it makes people engage, it
makes people want to likelisten.
And so, but it's like everyonehas their own thing, and so it's
really important to rememberthat part of it too is like
recognizing that you you alsojust need your own thing that

(01:12:23):
you do, and that's gonna beokay, whatever it is.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:26):
I'm gonna start making videos about menstrual
cycles.

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:29):
That's my thing.
Uh I don't even talk aboutmenstrual cycles.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:33):
I'm gonna do it better and more.

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:35):
Not a competition.
Why are you competing?
That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:42):
10 posts a day, James Coppola style.

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:45):
That's another example.
James just fucking James GoodTommy, Tom, Tommy like just
fucking puts out the hellavideos too.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:55):
That was very called me to put Hella in there, but
still.
I haven't said that in forever.
I was like, whoa.
You the best.
You the best.

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:03):
Yeah.
I can't even do little John.
And little John's not eventhough California.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:07):
Yay! That's crazy.
Um, but yeah, stop being so hardon yourself.
That was that was literally myvideo today on my story, is
about how part of the reason Ilost myself so much for this
year was because I was peoplepleasing.
And I think that this is soimportant to remember is again,
not to go on my little tangent,but we have we have a society

(01:13:28):
that has a very hard victimmindset, and a lot of people
don't want to takeaccountability for the role that
they're playing in their ownunhappiness.
Being a people pleaser and yousacrificing yourself to appease
others is your responsibility.
You like you can be upset andlike be hurt that maybe you

(01:13:49):
didn't get the same value or thesame love back.
Yeah, like it's okay to feelhurt by it, but then you also
have to take accountability forthe fact that maybe they didn't
ask for that.
Because again, you don't knowwhat these people are actually
asking for, for one, but thentwo, if you're unhappy because
of how you're showing up, thenstop showing up that way.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:10):
For those listening on the audio replay, I think my
neck is gonna get thrown outfrom nodding so much because I'm
just hearing straight truths.
This is can I can I just dropone more suggestion to everybody
here who's listening, if you'restill here with us after all the
dick jokes.
Um, get yourself some fuckingsmart friends.
I'm still working on that.

(01:14:32):
But uh just get the face thatyou made should have been on a
painting, a renaissancepainting.
I'm I agree.
Like, don't look at me.
I'm like, oh god, you do, yeah,you should do that.
No, I I I am smarter friendsthan us.
All three of us are in a areally wonderful position to be
surrounded by incredible peoplewho just have so many different

(01:14:54):
areas of expertise and all justhappen to have hearts of gold,
and that's including you guysand including Rob.
And it's it it's just I remembera time when I was doing this
alone.
I didn't have anybody like this,and the people I did have were
not quite so connected.
So I I I just I appreciate theadvice and the uh the the

(01:15:16):
reality checks and the um andeverything.
Like it's it is quite nice toget to have that open
conversation with people that Iknow give a shit.
You know?

SPEAKER_05 (01:15:27):
Of course.
I mean, again, and I want to beclear, like you were literally
there when I crashed out inJune.
Like, it's this is a constantlife is a constant learning
experience.
And a lot of the stuff I say toyou is stuff that like I've
needed to hear in my life.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:45):
Oh shit, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:15:46):
And I think that like it that's always so
important to remind other peopleof too, because a lot of times
people want to be so hard onthemselves and be like, oh, they
give such good advice, they'reso perfect.
How do they have it alltogether?
And it's like the reality is themajority of us who are putting
that advice out online needed tohear that at least at some
point, or maybe still need tohear it now.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:05):
That's why my videos do well because I never have it
together and I never do anythingright.
That's why people like myvideos.
Because I make something likethis went really bad, like
horror.
I don't know what I did wrong,but most things clearly, and
then people are like, Yeah,that's what I would do.
That's making this makes sense.
This makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:22):
This is what I would do.

SPEAKER_05 (01:16:22):
And I'm like, people just want to know that they're
not fucking alone.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:25):
I like the funny manic cottage cheese man.
I'm so disappointed that youlike cottage cheese.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:31):
I'm actually really upset about that.
People tell me all the time,like, I forgot your name.
I just looked up cottage cheeseguy and I found you.
No way.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:37):
Are you coming up as cottage cheese guy?

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:39):
Oh, if you just look up cottage cheese guy, I'm like
the first result.
So yes, Alex, do the searching.

SPEAKER_05 (01:16:44):
I'm doing it right now.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:45):
Oh, go right ahead.
By all means.
So that's how people have foundmy page.
Many, many have told me this.
Oh my god, you are the personwho comes up.
Yeah, it's just on the cottagecheese.
I am c I am cottage cheese.
You are a cottage cheese.

SPEAKER_05 (01:16:59):
Doing a response to that guy's video.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:01):
I mean, it's there's there's a there's a bunch of
them.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:03):
I've yeah, uh yeah, that's oh that guy.
If you take a little bit ofthis, one egg, and I rick one
lemon, you get he makes goodstuff.
Everybody criticizes him for hisvoice, and it's not fair.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:18):
Well, he does a lot of rage bait with the way he
pronounces things, like teasetzai guy instead of tzatziki.
So, like, fair.
I get it.
He should get flagged.

SPEAKER_05 (01:17:29):
That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:30):
It's like he's doing all of it on purpose because
it's doing it all on purpose,creates engagement.
Yeah, no, it's all engagement.
That's what he's seeking rightnow.
How do I get that fuckingengagement bait?

SPEAKER_05 (01:17:40):
Y'all are crazy.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:41):
Yeah.
I don't know what that guy's atis, but shout out to him.
Keto snacks?
Keto snacks, yep.

SPEAKER_05 (01:17:49):
Oh, that was fast.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:51):
I think it's keto snacks.
His name's Rick.
I know I've I've gotten taggedin videos by him.
Everything he posts.
Yeah.
But you know what else is crazy?
How late it's getting.
I think Alex might need to getsome.
He tried to get me off thepodcast.
It's way past her bedtime.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:09):
Normally, Rob has cut us off by now.
He's not here.
Oh, really?
Oh, that's funny.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:14):
All right, let me just go.
I don't know how long you guysgo from your episodes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:17):
No, we we're all technically guests on this.
Rob is in the producer chair.
Um, Alex, uh, at the Alex Allen,where TikTok, Instagram,
MySpace, where where can theyfind AOL?

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:32):
MySpace.
AIM.
Um Skype.
Skype.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:38):
What's that?
I want to be the first sponsoredathlete for Skype.

SPEAKER_04 (01:18:42):
I don't even think it exists anymore.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:44):
They shut it down in May.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:46):
Oh, did they actually?

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:47):
Oh, yeah, it's done.
It's gone.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:49):
Oh, I like how I just kind of had a I threw the
that was like a Hail Mary rightthere.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:52):
No, it's yeah, it's dead.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:54):
Oh, okay.
You can't get sponsored by them,sir.
I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:58):
No.
Um, and I guess to those peoplewho don't know that Liam is one
of the hosts of Inmoderation,where can they find it?

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:04):
Like, just post it on your story.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:05):
Like, you can find me at your nearest DeLorean
dealership desperately trying totalk them down to a reasonable
price.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:14):
Like, what about six thousand dollars cash right now
in hand?
I play hardball.

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:19):
You need to get a used one, okay.
I'm gonna say this so strictlyget a used one.
If you get a new one, I won't befriends with you anymore because
I'm gonna question your sanityfor spending that much money.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:29):
What if someone gives me a new one?
They just give it to me.

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:33):
If you have, I would ask if they're single, if
they're I'm just getting anothergold digger.
Um no, but I'd be like, who'sgiving you a DeLorean?

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:41):
I'm just I'm throwing hypothetical.

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:43):
I'm gonna be super honest.
I don't think he has the moneyfor this, so don't like don't go
for him after the I say this,but I think Scotty would pop
like potentially do somethinglike that if you like asked him
for a video, like we could gethim to find one.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:55):
Scotty just texted me now.

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:57):
I swear he's always asked.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:58):
Ask him to do a GoFundMe for a DeLorean thing
instead of give you some of theAHA money for a DeLorean thing.
We just raised money.

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:12):
Because my friend wants a DeLorean, I think you
would get like a lot of money.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:16):
We we could probably raise at least$40,000 to get a
used one.

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:20):
I think you could get a used DeLorean.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:21):
Yeah.
So for tell Scotty we'reskipping the AHA thing and we're
just trying to get Liam aDeLorean.

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:28):
Are you doing the AHA thing, Liam?

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:30):
I don't I've I have no idea what's going on with
anything.
Where is it?
When is it?
I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:34):
It's two weeks, and they're like running.
Oh wait, oh my god, are we notsupposed to say what?

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:38):
I don't know if we can say it, but it's gonna be a
big stunt.

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:41):
It's okay.
Yeah, it's like two weeks later.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:42):
As it stands now, if it doesn't change again, it's
gonna be a big stunt.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:45):
It'll be February, middle of February.
Okay, so yeah, I've got time forat least for that to figure that
shit out.
So hopefully I'll text you aboutit.

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:52):
And then the the Arnold's like two weeks, like
two weeks later.
Oh shit.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:57):
Damn.

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:57):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:58):
We're gonna have a that's the destination rumors,
but interesting.

SPEAKER_05 (01:21:01):
The Arnold's the destination.
No, the Arnold's in March.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:05):
Oh, never mind.

SPEAKER_05 (01:21:07):
Dallas.
No, Dallas.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:08):
What's happening in Dallas?

SPEAKER_05 (01:21:10):
Dallas, the AHA head corners, is what the destination
is.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:14):
Yeah, it was there's a there's some kind of fitness
event happening there.
Let's this is I don't know if wecan this is all classified
information.
I have Mike needs a plan.

SPEAKER_05 (01:21:23):
I like when you keep saying more information and then
you're like classified, and I'mlike, here are the coordinates.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:29):
Here are the exact dates.
Oh, wait, Scotty just sent me avoice message.
I don't know what's in it, so Iprobably can't play it.

SPEAKER_05 (01:21:37):
I was about to say, are you gonna fucking play it on
the podcast?

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:40):
Let me check the transcription.

SPEAKER_05 (01:21:41):
I was gonna say there's a transcript.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:43):
Oh, this is actually very good news, what he said to
me.
This is very, very good.

SPEAKER_05 (01:21:48):
Is it about the AHA thing?

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:49):
It is not about the uh the AHA.

SPEAKER_05 (01:21:52):
Is it about the DeLorean?

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:53):
It's about the DeLorean thing.
It's about being kind toyourself, is what he said.
Oh no, were you asking?

SPEAKER_05 (01:21:58):
Did you just happen?
Does he did he happen to textyou about that, or did you text
him because you were crashingout?

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:02):
No, him and I were having a conversation.
He's this totally separate ofanything we talk about.

SPEAKER_05 (01:22:07):
Because he did a weekly check-in.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:09):
We were just chatting.

SPEAKER_05 (01:22:10):
I'm the girl on the weekly check-in.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:12):
You're on the bro check-in.
Hell yeah, bro.
Oh shit.
There's balloons.
I can't do that.
I'm always the bro.

SPEAKER_05 (01:22:21):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:23):
Perfect for visual medium.
Thank you for joining us foranother wonderful episode of In
Moderation.
We've got the Alex Allen.
Mike needs a plan, Liam Blade.
Thank you for listening to usonce again.
Subscribe.
Check out.

SPEAKER_02 (01:22:36):
Live long and prosper.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:37):
Live long and prosper.
Don't be your worst.
K bye.
Be kind to yourself.
Don't be a dick.

SPEAKER_05 (01:22:43):
Especially to yourself.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:44):
Especially to yourself.

SPEAKER_05 (01:22:45):
Don't be a are you just continuing to say stuff
until I get off?
Is that what I need to do?
Can we combine all of them?
Yeah.

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