March 13, 2025 • 26 mins
When wellness influencers walk through grocery stores pointing cameras at food labels, what are they really selling? In this episode, we turn their content into a drinking game, taking sips of diet soda whenever they mention buzzwords like "toxins," "chemicals," or "seed oils."
We examine several viral wellness videos, starting with one claiming honey is superior to antibiotics for wound healing. While medical-grade honey does have legitimate antimicrobial properties, we unpack the misleading nature of positioning natural remedies against conventional medicine rather than acknowledging how they can work together.
The conversation shifts to a common argument against moderation in diet, where wellness influencers compare food to addictive drugs. This black-and-white thinking creates unnecessary fear and often leads to extreme, unsustainable approaches to eating. We contrast this with evidence-based perspectives that acknowledge individual differences while promoting balanced relationships with food.
Perhaps most revealing is our analysis of heritage chicken marketing. At $12 per pound (triple the price of conventional chicken), these specialty products might offer slightly different nutritional profiles but create significant financial barriers for most consumers. This exemplifies a broader pattern where wellness content assumes everyone has unlimited food budgets and access to specialty products.
Throughout our discussion, we maintain compassion for everyday people navigating confusing nutrition information while critically examining wellness messaging that creates unnecessary fear and financial burden. Our evidence-based approach, combined with humor and real-world practicality, offers listeners a refreshing alternative to extreme food ideologies.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everybody, welcome back to In Moderation,
where we are also again doingsome reviews of videos.
And that is not because ourguests fell through at the last
second.
I don't know why you werethinking that.
It's because people like tohave fun doing it.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We've had a hell of a week too.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
We also have fun doing it.
Yes, we're going to dosomething a little bit different
this time.
We are going to have our dietsodas and and then we're gonna
come up with some buzzwords.
And whenever they say thatwe're gonna take a drink now, I
would normally go and get freeto join us for you.
Yeah, I was gonna say normallyI would go out and get like a
mountain dew code red zero orsomething, but like if oakley
sees me and then sees me comeback in the room.
(00:37):
she's gonna freak out even more,and she's already freaking out.
So, um, I'm gonna drink thispoppy that's still in my room
that I've had.
I've had these in here for likemonths.
I'm down to the last, like fourof them, so it'll work.
So what buzzword should we pick, though?
I think so.
Toxins, obviously has to bethat right.
Toxins, toxins.
(00:59):
Seed oils, of course, has to beon the list.
What else?
Chemicals?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
What else?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
do?
We got Just vague notions ofchemicals.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, what's some other good?
Let's get two more, two more.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Oh yeah, I mean we'll get a few more.
Yeah, let's see.
Oh boy, yeah, oakley's got someideas.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I hear that Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, she's none too pleased.
Yeah, uh, let's see what else,what the grocery store walkers
say.
I think we should pick some ofthe like, some of the things
like msg, you know, like therewas like the things that they
fear monger, like msg, msg.
Uh, if they mention sugar isbad for you, like so how sugar
is terrible for you, not justsugar, not only to say sugar but
they have to say, like sugar is, you know, horrible for you, or
(01:42):
something like that.
Uh, if they try, and if theytalk about a supplement, that's
definitely one that's going tobe on the list.
And how about?
Just they're in a grocery store, they're just in a grocery
store.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
They're just in a grocery store.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Five sips.
It's five sips.
Well, we're going to drink allof our sodas before the end of
it by with just that.
But sure you know, and as we dodo this, we could add more
things to the list, but we'lljust start off with that all
right, sounds good, so let'spull up a video here, let's see.
The first one is it is it, uh,our friend paul?
Is it paul first?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
uh, we can go with paul first.
Do you want to go with paulfirst?
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I just caught my shoulder open and called ramp
and uh, yet another use for somelineage organic glyphosate free
honey, we didn't add that tothe list amazing wounds and has
been used on wounds forcenturies, if not millennia heck
of a cut but there you go yeah,that is a heck of a cut throw
(02:42):
on some lineage glyphosate freeorganic honey every day.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Hey, hey rob does normal honey have glyphosate in
it?
I honestly don't know do.
Do we put glyphosate in honey?
We don't put glyphosate inhoney, but uh bees can collect
from fields that have beensprayed with glyphosate and
therefore I say, make it fromthe bee into the honey and then
like all the way, yeah, how muchit's got to be such an
(03:09):
incredibly small amount, yeah Imean like this is the guy that
wouldn't touch a receipt from afucking grocery store you know
so like.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
And the real question is how do you control the bees
to not get any crops that honeyfrom any crops that were?
I don't know, like you couldn'thave like any conventional
fields like bees, could go for afar distance to get the nectar
for their honey you have to belike in the middle of a field,
(03:40):
fucking nowhere, like just likeyou have to be so isolated.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Okay, so let's just say it's sure, the glyphosate
and honey, that's the problemyeah, okay, you can see it's
about a a week and a half.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
It's completely healed that's not completely
healed, come on honey on it like, say, free honey.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I'm in costa rica, where things are notorious for
getting infected.
I use no antibiotic creams.
That had no problems.
Honey is incredible guys.
I just put it on there.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Look at the healing I think eating a bunch of meat.
So I mean it will likegenerally heal on its own right
like the.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
It's true that honey is an antimicrobial which, like
that, that's, that's a form ofantibiotic, so you're putting an
antibiotic.
It's not fair to say that youdidn't put an antibiotic cream
on because you did put anantibiotic.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
It's kind of.
In a way it is sort of anantibiotic.
So like it's like okay, I'm notsaying like he, his
everything's saying about honey.
Like is wrong.
Like, and I will say like justbecause we did it for many years
doesn't mean like it's a greatidea.
Like he's like we've been doingit for so long so we should do
it.
Like that's not a great reason.
But like there are medicinallike it, like was it manuka
(04:49):
honey?
Like I've seen people use itfor very specific applications
and in the medical field they douse it for certain things.
So like it's not super far outthere putting honey on.
I'm not an expert on fuckingwound care, but I can't imagine
putting honey on a wound is likethe worst thing you could do.
Right, I doubt it would besomething that they would
recommend first, but you knowlike well, this is far from the
(05:10):
craziest thing I've seen fromhim.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
This goes along with, like all the supplements that
people push instead ofmedication.
A lot of medication is justisolated versions of things we
find in nature, and so what hedid was he put on a weaker
version of an antibiotic.
He could have just put on oneof our medical grade versions.
(05:32):
It would have been safer.
There would have been less riskof infection.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I want to see what, like I'm curious what AI tells
me.
You put honey on a wound, let'ssee.
Let's see what AI says.
Ai says it's totally fine.
So, like, clearly it has to begood antibacterial properties,
anti-inflammatory.
Yeah, all of it seems to befrom health line, which, uh,
that's a little concerning.
(05:56):
It's like all from that ucla,hey, ucla says medical grade
honey is viable tool, is aviable is viable tool in wound
care.
So like medical grade Medicalgrade.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, not commercial.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
But is glyphosate free and medical grade the same
thing?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
It's got to be the same thing right, but like
that's exactly what I said.
It's just a weaker form of astandard antibiotic.
You could have just put on aregular antibiotic and not
wasted good honey.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
In addition to those sugars, however, honey has been
found to contain up to 200 otherunique bioactive compounds.
So that's a long word.
Yeah, long word.
Drink, yeah, a long word is adrink we can't drink from our
own words that we say.
They have to say them.
It's acidic, so it's low pH andinhibits bacterial growth.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Okay, it's acidic, so it's low ph and inhibits
bacterial growth.
Uh, okay, so like I mean, ifyou don't have antibiotic cream
around, you could probably useit, but it's not something you
should really stock in yourfirst aid kit bro, here's a
whole like pub med evidence forclinical use of honey in wound
healing as a antibacterial,anti-inflammatory, antioxidant,
antiviral agent.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
A review um, honey has almost equal or slightly
superior effects when comparedwith conventional treatments for
acute wounds and superficialpartial thickness burns.
Partial thickness burns.
Partial thickness burns.
Uh, more randomized controltrials with significant
statistical power comparingdifferent kinds of honey, are
required, blah, blah, blah.
(07:32):
Yeah, so like there it says atthe end there is biological
plausibility.
So hey, you know what?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
like we gotta give it to paul like this is far from
the craziest thing he's done,yep the moment we can just sort
of generally acknowledge thatpeople really do have addiction,
like based on every littlemetric you want to check, then
the sooner we can get rid ofstupid advice like moderation
and all things.
That is so.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Oh yes, of course, stupid advice, fucking
moderation.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Something that sounds so nice, it sounds so beautiful
, and the person who says it.
It just sounds so clever.
And yet tell that to an addict.
It doesn't beautiful.
And the person who says it.
It just sounds so clever.
And yet tell that to an addict.
It doesn't work.
You know, would you ever saythat to an alcoholic?
Well, just drink one glass ofwine and stop.
And yet they can't.
You know, that's the problem.
You're giving them more of thething.
You're encouraging them toindulge in their addiction.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
It's always compared to drugs.
Every time yeah, Every timethey're like oh, just do heroin
in moderation.
What are you talking about?
Are we speaking the samelanguage here?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, I love when they.
You can't eat food inmoderation because alcoholics
can't drink in moderation.
That's exactly how it works.
That seems to be their argumentright.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Like their drug addicts, can't use cocaine in
moderation.
That seems to be like theirsort of argument, and I don't
know how much water that holds.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
They always use the sugar is addicting argument and
it's like go eat some sugar andtell me how far you get into the
bag before you want to throw upJust some raw sugar.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Just scoop that stuff up with your hand.
Okay, you got out of there fora little bit, but I'm just going
to say you have to eat, youhave to eat food you don't like.
You don't like necessarily needto do drugs, like it's just
it's I that one always thatthat's always annoying, like, ok
, so we have to be super stricton everyone.
(09:21):
I'm sure that will work.
Let's get Jillian Michaels outthere and tell everyone how they
have to eat their fucking earlyharvest organic berries.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
That'll make everyone healthy, right oh yeah,
definitely, the people willdefinitely stick to that oh,
it's not small changes.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
They're gonna, they're gonna do, they want to
do the fucking stupid shit whereit's like they cut out all the
macronutrient, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah.
Now, now, next, eat moderation.
I go in moderation.
It's shocker.
The fuck is the plant-basedcheese.
How does that make sense?
He's in a grocery store drink,drink.
Oh.
We should have put bullshit onthe on the on the list, then he
(09:58):
would have.
Oh, what was the video?
I didn't even see.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
He was yelling about cheese so he was looking at
vegan cheese and he was likewhat the fuck is this?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
yeah, and it's like yeah, I, I see a lot of grocery
store walkers yelling about thevegan products and I find that
uh, interesting, like, why,really like?
Is this the problem is?
Is the problem people areeating vegan cheese, like I?
I really don't think this is.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
This is the issue here how dare we make accessible
products of different flavorsand types that people might like
, that people can eat, if theyaren't allowed to eat?
Oh, you remember when just egg.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
You remember just when just egg came out?
Yes like the fake it's it'smade out of like soybean oil and
stuff like that.
Bro, the grocery store walkershad a fucking field day with
that shit.
Eat Eat real eggs.
This is garbage.
So many videos.
Egg allergies are like a realthing, like a lot of quite a few
people are allergic to eggs, sothat seems like it could be
(10:57):
useful.
Vegans, obviously.
You know that sort of thing,like I.
Just that it's like it's superannoying Get bent, get bent.
Fucking, just get bent.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Have you guys seen this terrible new trend at Whole
Foods?
You may never shop here again.
Chocolate chip.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
He's in a grocery store.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
He's in a grocery store.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Bioengineered food ingredient.
Chicken Caesar wrapBioengineered food ingredient.
We fucked up.
Bioengineered food ingredients.
Place is such a Whole Foodsbagels and bioengineered food
ingredients.
All these sandwiches, thesedelicious cakes that they're
(11:34):
making they're so prettyContains a bioengineered food.
Does anybody know what abioengineered food ingredient is
?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I'd love to know.
Can I just say if you don'tknow what a bioengineered food
ingredient is, don't make foodand health content.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Probably, probably a good idea, like, and they go to
a cake, like you think, like thereason, like it's the problem.
It's the problem of thebioengineered food, or is it the
problem that it's a ton ofcalories and people just consume
?
A lot of cake, Because that's Ithink that's the problem.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
It's just a lot of oil and sugar and like not very
nutritious but many calories.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So, like I know they've, there's been some rule
changes.
I don't know the exact like uhdetails on it, but like a lot of
things are no longer labeled asgmo, it's bioengineered food.
They're not exactly the same.
It's kind of like how all likesquares, wait how.
All rectangles are squares, butnot all squares are rectangles.
Or is it the other way around?
Is that that squares, but notall squares are rectangles?
Or is it the other way around?
Is that that's way right?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
all squares are rectangles all squares are
rectangles, not all rectanglesare squares.
Yes, I think that's the rightway to say I don't know geometry
.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Listen, I'm not a fucking geologist, because
that's what knows geometry thegeologists that study geometry.
You know, that's how.
That's what someone who callswhat what's the name of someone
who studies studies like is itjust a mathematician?
Do they just study likegeometry, or is there like a
term for someone who juststudies geometry?
Is there a term for that?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I'm gonna look that up is geometrist a thing is
geometry.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I'm a geometrist, not a geologist.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I'm a geometrist yeah , a geometrist or a geometer who
was versed in studies, geometry, a geo meter, a geo meter.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I would go by geo meter that's a weometer geometer
, that's got to be geometer, notgeometer.
Geometer, okay, I like geometer, that's good, I remember, okay.
So, yeah, like not all.
I was just saying, like, whenit comes to like, uh, gmos and
bioengineered foods, it's likesome bioengineered foods are
(13:37):
like gmo or whatever, but likeit's for like a basic
understanding.
You just replace bioengineeredwith gmo has been genetically
modified in some way, so theyhave to list that bioengineered
is specifically modified in alab.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
okay, modified like theirified, like their DNA or
something.
And the field of bioengineeringfood has done so much for us in
terms of making crops hardier,in terms of making them more
pest resistant, more resistantto pests, so we use less
pesticides, which that shitpisses me off.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
We use less pesticides because they're more
resistant to pests, and thesepeople, these fuckers, are
complaining about pesticides too.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yep, we've also made the food bigger and better to
eat.
Yeah, tastier, we enjoy eat it.
Juicier, we enjoy eat it.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
We me eat delicious tomato Juicy.
Here's the thing Like okay,like Whole Foods are trying, not
Whole Foods.
The thing like we're okay likewhole foods are trying, not
whole foods.
The fucking brand store.
But, like you know, foods thatare whole are trying to compete
with like cheetos.
We need all the help we can getright.
Fucking cheetos are deliciouslike an oreo.
(14:49):
Are you kidding me?
What sort of carrot has achance against a fucking oreo?
None.
So like I feel like we shouldmake our whole foods as as tasty
and delicious as possible toget any chance I mean, look if
we, if we look at like ancientcorn and how hard and shitty it
(15:10):
was horrible and how hard togrow it was
Speaker 2 (15:13):
oh, if we had that today, it would cost so much and
it would require so much effortin order to make it edible,
compared to our standard corntoday, which we can delicious
you can throw it in themicrowave for a little bit and
eat it and it's delicious andit's got like and it doesn't
cost you five dollars an ear.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
No, like I get it, like we should.
Ok, listen, listen, I want to.
Like you know, I want to playdevil's advocate.
Like I get it.
We're growing so much corn thatwe take the corn, we turn it
into high fructose corn syrupand then we put the high
fructose corn syrup in a ton ofstuff.
We add a lot of sugar.
There's I don't know whatevergummies or whatever it is.
(16:01):
Like you know, we eat a lot ofthose things.
So, like I get, that's aproblem, I really do.
But like the corn itself.
Like are Americans unhealthybecause they're eating too much
corn on the cob?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I really don't think.
I don't think that's the issue.
I think Americans would behealthier if they ate more corn
on the cob, more corn man.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Fucking corn gets a bad name because of high
fructose corns here.
Whenever I mentioned corn,they're like no, no, that's not
even a vegetable, it's a grain.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I'm like.
First off, it depends on howyou what it's used for, like
popcorn, would be considered agrain whereas like corn on the
cob is a vegetable and it's agood vegetable routine.
It's got antioxidants, it's gota, it's good amount of fiber.
(16:28):
It's even got a little protein,not a ton, but like some.
Come on, man, fucking don't,don't be demonizing my corn you
fuckers.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
They always seem to demonize the good things
Potatoes, corn, oats.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Corn Corn's not the problem.
Corn on the cob is not theproblem.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Let me ask you a question why are these chicken
breasts and?
thighs, so much bigger and sucha different color than these.
Well, this chicken isconventionally raised, meaning
there's 50,000 chickens in awindowless warehouse.
They only eat grain and theyare genetically designed to get
fat very quickly, which is whythey're slaughtered after five
(17:05):
weeks.
This chicken is pasture raised,slow grown, heritage breed,
meaning they mostly live outside, eat bugs, grass, worms and
have a supplemental feed ofgrain.
Slow grown means it takes 10weeks to get to the slaughter,
which is double the time ofconventional.
And heritage breed is the sametype of chicken your
(17:27):
grandparents were eating back inthe day.
Why is this chicken?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
so much Call to the ancestors that should have been
on our fucking list.
Damn it.
Now we're learning all thethings.
Yeah, that's okay, we'll amendthe list.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Call to the ancestors .
That should have been on ourfucking list.
Damn it.
Now we're learning all thethings.
Yeah, that's okay, we'll amendthe list.
Call to your ancestors DrinkNext time.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, drink For next time.
We'll know, like you know, whatour ancestors did?
Oh, because they were sohealthy.
You know, you know all thepeople like the 1800s that were
like the pinnacle of health,right oh yeah, yeah, they live
into what 30, 40, if you'relucky, you got to 50 with it.
You might have like three teethleft by that point.
Oh shit, like okay, and likeyou know, there's definitely
(18:06):
some truth to like thenutritional differences right.
Like they eat grass, they eatbugs, blah, blah, blah.
Like that might increase, um,the nutrient density of it, like
slightly.
I know that happens.
We talk a lot, they talk a lotabout like the grass-fed beef,
blah, blah, blah.
Like that might increase, um,the nutrient density of it, like
slightly.
I know that happens.
We talk a lot.
They talk a lot about like thegrass-fed beef, blah, blah, blah
.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
But like the differences aren't going to be
massive and it is, but the priceis going to be massive oh yeah
price is going to be three, fourtimes sure if it takes twice as
long to raise that chicken,that's a twice as long of a
turnover.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, and it's going to cost even more than that.
Like you look at the grocerystore, you'll see it's like
three times the price per poundfor like these things.
So like, if you have the money,that's awesome.
And yeah, if you sell fuckingshitty protein powder to people,
then, yeah, you're going tohave the money.
But, like, most people are notgoing to be able to afford that
(19:01):
and that's what drives me crazyabout all these videos.
Like it's never good enough.
It's never good enough.
Like, no, you can't just havethis.
It has to be this type of this,it has to be this specific
brand, because it's doesn't haveall the blah, blah, blah and
they'll dare people eatconventionally raised chicken
like you?
need to eat my type of chickenyeah, that's why, again, that's
why we're unhealthy we eat tootoo many chicken breasts yeah
(19:21):
well, it was bred to be gigantic.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
After slaughter they're dunked in a chlorinated
water bath and the meat can soakup to eight to twelve percent
of water, making it much larger,meaning you're paying for a
water weight more like you'repaying for a water weight, more
like you're paying for juicychicken.
What you want is air chilledchicken, meaning the birds never
take a bath in a chemicalsolution.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Instead, they're hung on chemical, chemical so where?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
do you find heritage breed slow grown pasture raised
chicken?
I buy mine at Whole Foods froma company called LaBelle and
Patrimony.
You can find it Patrimony.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I want to look up how much this fucking shit costs.
All right, Can we look up what?
Whole Foods?
What was it called?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Something in Patrimony I'm pretty sure that's
pronounced Labelle Patrimoie,because it's French.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Labelle let's see.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
L-A-B-E-L-L-E Chicken .
I'm just going to put chickenT-A-T-R-I-M-O-I-N-E.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
They're organic.
What the fuck is this?
Whole Foods is fucking wild,bro.
Whoa, what the fuck I want like.
Oh, here it is.
I found their website.
Oh, it's got a giant fuckingchicken on the front.
Slow grown Local grain, notjust your basic grain, rob.
(20:38):
If this is local grain, we growthe grain.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Here.
It's pasture-raised, but it'sstill eating grain.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I want to see how much this costs.
I want to know how much thisfucking chicken
Direct-to-consumer.
What if I buydirect-to-consumer and they give
me options here, fresh direct$12 a pound.
$12 a pound.
$12 a pound Damn, I gotta maththat.
Damn, that's some wild shit.
Honestly, I did think it wouldbe more.
(21:07):
That would be.
I mean, that's just like what'syou know like?
What is it Like three $4 apound for like your basic one?
I don't buy a whole lot ofchicken, so I don't really know.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Oh man but that would be about five, five and a half
dollars per kilogram.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Oh, you're fucking changing the metric system.
No one cares, Rob.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Well, it's the only way I can compare the price.
I don't know what chickens cost.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Listen, the only people that use the metric
system are those outside theUnited States, and that is such
a small percentage of peopleit's negligible.
We can just throw all that outthe window.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
So okay, so that's five and a half dollars american
.
That's gonna be about sevendollars canadian per kilogram.
Holy shit, that's twice theprice it's only twice, because I
feel like here that's likethree times the price people are
people twice the price, but we,I think we, um, we also uh,
regulate our agricultureindustry way better than you
(22:10):
guys do actually.
Oh well, that's fun, oh man.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah Well, that's expensive-ass chicken.
Let me just say that.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
That is, and it's only slightly more
nutrient-dense.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
So you're paying a huge markup for that.
It's going to be like a smalldifference, but not by that much
.
I'm trying to Give me this oneoh my gosh, alright.
I'm trying to give me this oneoh my gosh, all right.
I was trying to see how much itis, my local whole foods.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I give up, doesn't matter what's next.
That was that was it.
That was it?
Nice quick one this time.
All right, that sounds good weboth have uh have had a a week
for those who uh have beenkeeping up with my news.
My dad is fortunately out ofhospital, so that's good
Recovering.
And he finally got his vehicleback from when somebody ran a
(23:00):
stop sign and hit him last year,so he's finally got his own
vehicle again.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
So what was he driving?
Before One of your cars I wasdriving.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Oh, okay, I had to go in constantly and help him out,
so, man, so that's a.
That's a huge load off my mind.
He's had fucking bad luck withthe accidents, man, oh my god
damn just yeah, it's, it wasfrick thank goodness for health
care in canada yeah, no kiddingout of luck in the United States
(23:30):
.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
An ambulance.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
That'll be $12,000 minimum.
Yikes Jeez.
And then on top of that, Doambulances make a different
sound in Canada?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I don't know.
I've never heard an ambulancein the US.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
You came to the US, did you hear any ambulances?
You probably heard an ambulanceat some point.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
It goes wee-woo.
I probably did hear anambulance at some point hey
everybody, go to the Patreon andlet us know if ambulances make
the same noise in Canada and theUS.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Because I'm pretty sure in England they make the
fire trucks and whatnot makedifferent sounds.
I've always heard people talkabout it, but I don't actually
know.
I don't actually know.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
And while you're at the Patreon, feel free to
suggest guests that you'd liketo see.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Topics you'd like to see covered all that fun stuff.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Let's see whatever else we can,whatever we can fucking rant
about and just whatever I canrant about.
That's what I'm looking forsomething yeah so I get, I get
upset by and yell into thismicrophone.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
As well, as we've been busy preparing for our
upcoming D&D game.
Yeah, so don't forget thisSunday, march 17th, 16th, 17th.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Today's the 12th, so whatever that is, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
March 16th at.
I think we're starting at aboutthree.
No, we're starting one o'clockmountain time, noon.
No, we're getting on.
I need to double check thisTime zones.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I'm Eastern, that's all I know.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Okay, I think we're going to be actually starting
around one o'clock Pacific on myTwitch channel, which is Rob
Lavin.
Like all my other channels,should be starting around one
o'clock 12 o'clock specific time.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
They say that because it starts specifically at 12.
That's a family guy joke.
Man, I still remember that Ifucking old school family guy
would crack up yeah, d&d, I'mexcited.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
All right, I believe that's all the exciting stuff
we've got going on.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, so get out there, buy whatever chicken you
can afford, or don't buy chicken, buy whatever you want, like
honestly, it's fine have tofu.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I don't care, I'm not your mom.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Get yourself some honey.
You might.
You might eat it.
You might put on a wound now,who knows?
Just don't be your worst.
Hey everybody, welcome back to In Moderation,
where we are also again doingsome reviews of videos.
And that is not because ourguests fell through at the last
second.
I don't know why you werethinking that.
It's because people like tohave fun doing it.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We've had a hell of a week too.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
We also have fun doing it.
Yes, we're going to dosomething a little bit different
this time.
We are going to have our dietsodas and and then we're gonna
come up with some buzzwords.
And whenever they say thatwe're gonna take a drink now, I
would normally go and get freeto join us for you.
Yeah, I was gonna say normallyI would go out and get like a
mountain dew code red zero orsomething, but like if oakley
sees me and then sees me comeback in the room.
(00:37):
she's gonna freak out even more,and she's already freaking out.
So, um, I'm gonna drink thispoppy that's still in my room
that I've had.
I've had these in here for likemonths.
I'm down to the last, like fourof them, so it'll work.
So what buzzword should we pick, though?
I think so.
Toxins, obviously has to bethat right.
Toxins, toxins.
(00:59):
Seed oils, of course, has to beon the list.
What else?
Chemicals?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
What else?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
do?
We got Just vague notions ofchemicals.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, what's some other good?
Let's get two more, two more.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Oh yeah, I mean we'll get a few more.
Yeah, let's see.
Oh boy, yeah, oakley's got someideas.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I hear that Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, she's none too pleased.
Yeah, uh, let's see what else,what the grocery store walkers
say.
I think we should pick some ofthe like, some of the things
like msg, you know, like therewas like the things that they
fear monger, like msg, msg.
Uh, if they mention sugar isbad for you, like so how sugar
is terrible for you, not justsugar, not only to say sugar but
they have to say, like sugar is, you know, horrible for you, or
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something like that.
Uh, if they try, and if theytalk about a supplement, that's
definitely one that's going tobe on the list.
And how about?
Just they're in a grocery store, they're just in a grocery
store.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
They're just in a grocery store.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Five sips.
It's five sips.
Well, we're going to drink allof our sodas before the end of
it by with just that.
But sure you know, and as we dodo this, we could add more
things to the list, but we'lljust start off with that all
right, sounds good, so let'spull up a video here, let's see.
The first one is it is it, uh,our friend paul?
Is it paul first?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
uh, we can go with paul first.
Do you want to go with paulfirst?
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I just caught my shoulder open and called ramp
and uh, yet another use for somelineage organic glyphosate free
honey, we didn't add that tothe list amazing wounds and has
been used on wounds forcenturies, if not millennia heck
of a cut but there you go yeah,that is a heck of a cut throw
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on some lineage glyphosate freeorganic honey every day.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Hey, hey rob does normal honey have glyphosate in
it?
I honestly don't know do.
Do we put glyphosate in honey?
We don't put glyphosate inhoney, but uh bees can collect
from fields that have beensprayed with glyphosate and
therefore I say, make it fromthe bee into the honey and then
like all the way, yeah, how muchit's got to be such an
(03:09):
incredibly small amount, yeah Imean like this is the guy that
wouldn't touch a receipt from afucking grocery store you know
so like.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
And the real question is how do you control the bees
to not get any crops that honeyfrom any crops that were?
I don't know, like you couldn'thave like any conventional
fields like bees, could go for afar distance to get the nectar
for their honey you have to belike in the middle of a field,
(03:40):
fucking nowhere, like just likeyou have to be so isolated.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Okay, so let's just say it's sure, the glyphosate
and honey, that's the problemyeah, okay, you can see it's
about a a week and a half.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
It's completely healed that's not completely
healed, come on honey on it like, say, free honey.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I'm in costa rica, where things are notorious for
getting infected.
I use no antibiotic creams.
That had no problems.
Honey is incredible guys.
I just put it on there.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Look at the healing I think eating a bunch of meat.
So I mean it will likegenerally heal on its own right
like the.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
It's true that honey is an antimicrobial which, like
that, that's, that's a form ofantibiotic, so you're putting an
antibiotic.
It's not fair to say that youdidn't put an antibiotic cream
on because you did put anantibiotic.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
It's kind of.
In a way it is sort of anantibiotic.
So like it's like okay, I'm notsaying like he, his
everything's saying about honey.
Like is wrong.
Like, and I will say like justbecause we did it for many years
doesn't mean like it's a greatidea.
Like he's like we've been doingit for so long so we should do
it.
Like that's not a great reason.
But like there are medicinallike it, like was it manuka
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honey?
Like I've seen people use itfor very specific applications
and in the medical field they douse it for certain things.
So like it's not super far outthere putting honey on.
I'm not an expert on fuckingwound care, but I can't imagine
putting honey on a wound is likethe worst thing you could do.
Right, I doubt it would besomething that they would
recommend first, but you knowlike well, this is far from the
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craziest thing I've seen fromhim.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
This goes along with, like all the supplements that
people push instead ofmedication.
A lot of medication is justisolated versions of things we
find in nature, and so what hedid was he put on a weaker
version of an antibiotic.
He could have just put on oneof our medical grade versions.
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It would have been safer.
There would have been less riskof infection.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I want to see what, like I'm curious what AI tells
me.
You put honey on a wound, let'ssee.
Let's see what AI says.
Ai says it's totally fine.
So, like, clearly it has to begood antibacterial properties,
anti-inflammatory.
Yeah, all of it seems to befrom health line, which, uh,
that's a little concerning.
(05:56):
It's like all from that ucla,hey, ucla says medical grade
honey is viable tool, is aviable is viable tool in wound
care.
So like medical grade Medicalgrade.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, not commercial.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
But is glyphosate free and medical grade the same
thing?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
It's got to be the same thing right, but like
that's exactly what I said.
It's just a weaker form of astandard antibiotic.
You could have just put on aregular antibiotic and not
wasted good honey.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
In addition to those sugars, however, honey has been
found to contain up to 200 otherunique bioactive compounds.
So that's a long word.
Yeah, long word.
Drink, yeah, a long word is adrink we can't drink from our
own words that we say.
They have to say them.
It's acidic, so it's low pH andinhibits bacterial growth.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Okay, it's acidic, so it's low ph and inhibits
bacterial growth.
Uh, okay, so like I mean, ifyou don't have antibiotic cream
around, you could probably useit, but it's not something you
should really stock in yourfirst aid kit bro, here's a
whole like pub med evidence forclinical use of honey in wound
healing as a antibacterial,anti-inflammatory, antioxidant,
antiviral agent.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
A review um, honey has almost equal or slightly
superior effects when comparedwith conventional treatments for
acute wounds and superficialpartial thickness burns.
Partial thickness burns.
Partial thickness burns.
Uh, more randomized controltrials with significant
statistical power comparingdifferent kinds of honey, are
required, blah, blah, blah.
(07:32):
Yeah, so like there it says atthe end there is biological
plausibility.
So hey, you know what?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
like we gotta give it to paul like this is far from
the craziest thing he's done,yep the moment we can just sort
of generally acknowledge thatpeople really do have addiction,
like based on every littlemetric you want to check, then
the sooner we can get rid ofstupid advice like moderation
and all things.
That is so.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Oh yes, of course, stupid advice, fucking
moderation.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Something that sounds so nice, it sounds so beautiful
, and the person who says it.
It just sounds so clever.
And yet tell that to an addict.
It doesn't beautiful.
And the person who says it.
It just sounds so clever.
And yet tell that to an addict.
It doesn't work.
You know, would you ever saythat to an alcoholic?
Well, just drink one glass ofwine and stop.
And yet they can't.
You know, that's the problem.
You're giving them more of thething.
You're encouraging them toindulge in their addiction.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
It's always compared to drugs.
Every time yeah, Every timethey're like oh, just do heroin
in moderation.
What are you talking about?
Are we speaking the samelanguage here?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, I love when they.
You can't eat food inmoderation because alcoholics
can't drink in moderation.
That's exactly how it works.
That seems to be their argumentright.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Like their drug addicts, can't use cocaine in
moderation.
That seems to be like theirsort of argument, and I don't
know how much water that holds.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
They always use the sugar is addicting argument and
it's like go eat some sugar andtell me how far you get into the
bag before you want to throw upJust some raw sugar.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Just scoop that stuff up with your hand.
Okay, you got out of there fora little bit, but I'm just going
to say you have to eat, youhave to eat food you don't like.
You don't like necessarily needto do drugs, like it's just
it's I that one always thatthat's always annoying, like, ok
, so we have to be super stricton everyone.
(09:21):
I'm sure that will work.
Let's get Jillian Michaels outthere and tell everyone how they
have to eat their fucking earlyharvest organic berries.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
That'll make everyone healthy, right oh yeah,
definitely, the people willdefinitely stick to that oh,
it's not small changes.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
They're gonna, they're gonna do, they want to
do the fucking stupid shit whereit's like they cut out all the
macronutrient, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah.
Now, now, next, eat moderation.
I go in moderation.
It's shocker.
The fuck is the plant-basedcheese.
How does that make sense?
He's in a grocery store drink,drink.
Oh.
We should have put bullshit onthe on the on the list, then he
(09:58):
would have.
Oh, what was the video?
I didn't even see.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
He was yelling about cheese so he was looking at
vegan cheese and he was likewhat the fuck is this?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
yeah, and it's like yeah, I, I see a lot of grocery
store walkers yelling about thevegan products and I find that
uh, interesting, like, why,really like?
Is this the problem is?
Is the problem people areeating vegan cheese, like I?
I really don't think this is.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
This is the issue here how dare we make accessible
products of different flavorsand types that people might like
, that people can eat, if theyaren't allowed to eat?
Oh, you remember when just egg.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
You remember just when just egg came out?
Yes like the fake it's it'smade out of like soybean oil and
stuff like that.
Bro, the grocery store walkershad a fucking field day with
that shit.
Eat Eat real eggs.
This is garbage.
So many videos.
Egg allergies are like a realthing, like a lot of quite a few
people are allergic to eggs, sothat seems like it could be
(10:57):
useful.
Vegans, obviously.
You know that sort of thing,like I.
Just that it's like it's superannoying Get bent, get bent.
Fucking, just get bent.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Have you guys seen this terrible new trend at Whole
Foods?
You may never shop here again.
Chocolate chip.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
He's in a grocery store.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
He's in a grocery store.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Bioengineered food ingredient.
Chicken Caesar wrapBioengineered food ingredient.
We fucked up.
Bioengineered food ingredients.
Place is such a Whole Foodsbagels and bioengineered food
ingredients.
All these sandwiches, thesedelicious cakes that they're
(11:34):
making they're so prettyContains a bioengineered food.
Does anybody know what abioengineered food ingredient is
?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I'd love to know.
Can I just say if you don'tknow what a bioengineered food
ingredient is, don't make foodand health content.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Probably, probably a good idea, like, and they go to
a cake, like you think, like thereason, like it's the problem.
It's the problem of thebioengineered food, or is it the
problem that it's a ton ofcalories and people just consume
?
A lot of cake, Because that's Ithink that's the problem.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
It's just a lot of oil and sugar and like not very
nutritious but many calories.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So, like I know they've, there's been some rule
changes.
I don't know the exact like uhdetails on it, but like a lot of
things are no longer labeled asgmo, it's bioengineered food.
They're not exactly the same.
It's kind of like how all likesquares, wait how.
All rectangles are squares, butnot all squares are rectangles.
Or is it the other way around?
Is that that squares, but notall squares are rectangles?
Or is it the other way around?
Is that that's way right?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
all squares are rectangles all squares are
rectangles, not all rectanglesare squares.
Yes, I think that's the rightway to say I don't know geometry
.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Listen, I'm not a fucking geologist, because
that's what knows geometry thegeologists that study geometry.
You know, that's how.
That's what someone who callswhat what's the name of someone
who studies studies like is itjust a mathematician?
Do they just study likegeometry, or is there like a
term for someone who juststudies geometry?
Is there a term for that?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I'm gonna look that up is geometrist a thing is
geometry.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I'm a geometrist, not a geologist.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I'm a geometrist yeah , a geometrist or a geometer who
was versed in studies, geometry, a geo meter, a geo meter.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I would go by geo meter that's a weometer geometer
, that's got to be geometer, notgeometer.
Geometer, okay, I like geometer, that's good, I remember, okay.
So, yeah, like not all.
I was just saying, like, whenit comes to like, uh, gmos and
bioengineered foods, it's likesome bioengineered foods are
(13:37):
like gmo or whatever, but likeit's for like a basic
understanding.
You just replace bioengineeredwith gmo has been genetically
modified in some way, so theyhave to list that bioengineered
is specifically modified in alab.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
okay, modified like theirified, like their DNA or
something.
And the field of bioengineeringfood has done so much for us in
terms of making crops hardier,in terms of making them more
pest resistant, more resistantto pests, so we use less
pesticides, which that shitpisses me off.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
We use less pesticides because they're more
resistant to pests, and thesepeople, these fuckers, are
complaining about pesticides too.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yep, we've also made the food bigger and better to
eat.
Yeah, tastier, we enjoy eat it.
Juicier, we enjoy eat it.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
We me eat delicious tomato Juicy.
Here's the thing Like okay,like Whole Foods are trying, not
Whole Foods.
The thing like we're okay likewhole foods are trying, not
whole foods.
The fucking brand store.
But, like you know, foods thatare whole are trying to compete
with like cheetos.
We need all the help we can getright.
Fucking cheetos are deliciouslike an oreo.
(14:49):
Are you kidding me?
What sort of carrot has achance against a fucking oreo?
None.
So like I feel like we shouldmake our whole foods as as tasty
and delicious as possible toget any chance I mean, look if
we, if we look at like ancientcorn and how hard and shitty it
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was horrible and how hard togrow it was
Speaker 2 (15:13):
oh, if we had that today, it would cost so much and
it would require so much effortin order to make it edible,
compared to our standard corntoday, which we can delicious
you can throw it in themicrowave for a little bit and
eat it and it's delicious andit's got like and it doesn't
cost you five dollars an ear.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
No, like I get it, like we should.
Ok, listen, listen, I want to.
Like you know, I want to playdevil's advocate.
Like I get it.
We're growing so much corn thatwe take the corn, we turn it
into high fructose corn syrupand then we put the high
fructose corn syrup in a ton ofstuff.
We add a lot of sugar.
There's I don't know whatevergummies or whatever it is.
(16:01):
Like you know, we eat a lot ofthose things.
So, like I get, that's aproblem, I really do.
But like the corn itself.
Like are Americans unhealthybecause they're eating too much
corn on the cob?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I really don't think.
I don't think that's the issue.
I think Americans would behealthier if they ate more corn
on the cob, more corn man.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Fucking corn gets a bad name because of high
fructose corns here.
Whenever I mentioned corn,they're like no, no, that's not
even a vegetable, it's a grain.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I'm like.
First off, it depends on howyou what it's used for, like
popcorn, would be considered agrain whereas like corn on the
cob is a vegetable and it's agood vegetable routine.
It's got antioxidants, it's gota, it's good amount of fiber.
(16:28):
It's even got a little protein,not a ton, but like some.
Come on, man, fucking don't,don't be demonizing my corn you
fuckers.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
They always seem to demonize the good things
Potatoes, corn, oats.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Corn Corn's not the problem.
Corn on the cob is not theproblem.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Let me ask you a question why are these chicken
breasts and?
thighs, so much bigger and sucha different color than these.
Well, this chicken isconventionally raised, meaning
there's 50,000 chickens in awindowless warehouse.
They only eat grain and theyare genetically designed to get
fat very quickly, which is whythey're slaughtered after five
(17:05):
weeks.
This chicken is pasture raised,slow grown, heritage breed,
meaning they mostly live outside, eat bugs, grass, worms and
have a supplemental feed ofgrain.
Slow grown means it takes 10weeks to get to the slaughter,
which is double the time ofconventional.
And heritage breed is the sametype of chicken your
(17:27):
grandparents were eating back inthe day.
Why is this chicken?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
so much Call to the ancestors that should have been
on our fucking list.
Damn it.
Now we're learning all thethings.
Yeah, that's okay, we'll amendthe list.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Call to the ancestors .
That should have been on ourfucking list.
Damn it.
Now we're learning all thethings.
Yeah, that's okay, we'll amendthe list.
Call to your ancestors DrinkNext time.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, drink For next time.
We'll know, like you know, whatour ancestors did?
Oh, because they were sohealthy.
You know, you know all thepeople like the 1800s that were
like the pinnacle of health,right oh yeah, yeah, they live
into what 30, 40, if you'relucky, you got to 50 with it.
You might have like three teethleft by that point.
Oh shit, like okay, and likeyou know, there's definitely
(18:06):
some truth to like thenutritional differences right.
Like they eat grass, they eatbugs, blah, blah, blah.
Like that might increase, um,the nutrient density of it, like
slightly.
I know that happens.
We talk a lot, they talk a lotabout like the grass-fed beef,
blah, blah, blah.
Like that might increase, um,the nutrient density of it, like
slightly.
I know that happens.
We talk a lot.
They talk a lot about like thegrass-fed beef, blah, blah, blah
.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
But like the differences aren't going to be
massive and it is, but the priceis going to be massive oh yeah
price is going to be three, fourtimes sure if it takes twice as
long to raise that chicken,that's a twice as long of a
turnover.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, and it's going to cost even more than that.
Like you look at the grocerystore, you'll see it's like
three times the price per poundfor like these things.
So like, if you have the money,that's awesome.
And yeah, if you sell fuckingshitty protein powder to people,
then, yeah, you're going tohave the money.
But, like, most people are notgoing to be able to afford that
(19:01):
and that's what drives me crazyabout all these videos.
Like it's never good enough.
It's never good enough.
Like, no, you can't just havethis.
It has to be this type of this,it has to be this specific
brand, because it's doesn't haveall the blah, blah, blah and
they'll dare people eatconventionally raised chicken
like you?
need to eat my type of chickenyeah, that's why, again, that's
why we're unhealthy we eat tootoo many chicken breasts yeah
(19:21):
well, it was bred to be gigantic.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
After slaughter they're dunked in a chlorinated
water bath and the meat can soakup to eight to twelve percent
of water, making it much larger,meaning you're paying for a
water weight more like you'repaying for a water weight, more
like you're paying for juicychicken.
What you want is air chilledchicken, meaning the birds never
take a bath in a chemicalsolution.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Instead, they're hung on chemical, chemical so where?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
do you find heritage breed slow grown pasture raised
chicken?
I buy mine at Whole Foods froma company called LaBelle and
Patrimony.
You can find it Patrimony.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I want to look up how much this fucking shit costs.
All right, Can we look up what?
Whole Foods?
What was it called?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Something in Patrimony I'm pretty sure that's
pronounced Labelle Patrimoie,because it's French.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Labelle let's see.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
L-A-B-E-L-L-E Chicken .
I'm just going to put chickenT-A-T-R-I-M-O-I-N-E.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
They're organic.
What the fuck is this?
Whole Foods is fucking wild,bro.
Whoa, what the fuck I want like.
Oh, here it is.
I found their website.
Oh, it's got a giant fuckingchicken on the front.
Slow grown Local grain, notjust your basic grain, rob.
(20:38):
If this is local grain, we growthe grain.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Here.
It's pasture-raised, but it'sstill eating grain.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I want to see how much this costs.
I want to know how much thisfucking chicken
Direct-to-consumer.
What if I buydirect-to-consumer and they give
me options here, fresh direct$12 a pound.
$12 a pound.
$12 a pound Damn, I gotta maththat.
Damn, that's some wild shit.
Honestly, I did think it wouldbe more.
(21:07):
That would be.
I mean, that's just like what'syou know like?
What is it Like three $4 apound for like your basic one?
I don't buy a whole lot ofchicken, so I don't really know.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Oh man but that would be about five, five and a half
dollars per kilogram.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Oh, you're fucking changing the metric system.
No one cares, Rob.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Well, it's the only way I can compare the price.
I don't know what chickens cost.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Listen, the only people that use the metric
system are those outside theUnited States, and that is such
a small percentage of peopleit's negligible.
We can just throw all that outthe window.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
So okay, so that's five and a half dollars american
.
That's gonna be about sevendollars canadian per kilogram.
Holy shit, that's twice theprice it's only twice, because I
feel like here that's likethree times the price people are
people twice the price, but we,I think we, um, we also uh,
regulate our agricultureindustry way better than you
(22:10):
guys do actually.
Oh well, that's fun, oh man.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah Well, that's expensive-ass chicken.
Let me just say that.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
That is, and it's only slightly more
nutrient-dense.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
So you're paying a huge markup for that.
It's going to be like a smalldifference, but not by that much
.
I'm trying to Give me this oneoh my gosh, alright.
I'm trying to give me this oneoh my gosh, all right.
I was trying to see how much itis, my local whole foods.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I give up, doesn't matter what's next.
That was that was it.
That was it?
Nice quick one this time.
All right, that sounds good weboth have uh have had a a week
for those who uh have beenkeeping up with my news.
My dad is fortunately out ofhospital, so that's good
Recovering.
And he finally got his vehicleback from when somebody ran a
(23:00):
stop sign and hit him last year,so he's finally got his own
vehicle again.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
So what was he driving?
Before One of your cars I wasdriving.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Oh, okay, I had to go in constantly and help him out,
so, man, so that's a.
That's a huge load off my mind.
He's had fucking bad luck withthe accidents, man, oh my god
damn just yeah, it's, it wasfrick thank goodness for health
care in canada yeah, no kiddingout of luck in the United States
(23:30):
.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
An ambulance.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
That'll be $12,000 minimum.
Yikes Jeez.
And then on top of that, Doambulances make a different
sound in Canada?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I don't know.
I've never heard an ambulancein the US.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
You came to the US, did you hear any ambulances?
You probably heard an ambulanceat some point.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
It goes wee-woo.
I probably did hear anambulance at some point hey
everybody, go to the Patreon andlet us know if ambulances make
the same noise in Canada and theUS.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Because I'm pretty sure in England they make the
fire trucks and whatnot makedifferent sounds.
I've always heard people talkabout it, but I don't actually
know.
I don't actually know.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
And while you're at the Patreon, feel free to
suggest guests that you'd liketo see.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Topics you'd like to see covered all that fun stuff.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Let's see whatever else we can,whatever we can fucking rant
about and just whatever I canrant about.
That's what I'm looking forsomething yeah so I get, I get
upset by and yell into thismicrophone.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
As well, as we've been busy preparing for our
upcoming D&D game.
Yeah, so don't forget thisSunday, march 17th, 16th, 17th.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Today's the 12th, so whatever that is, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
March 16th at.
I think we're starting at aboutthree.
No, we're starting one o'clockmountain time, noon.
No, we're getting on.
I need to double check thisTime zones.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I'm Eastern, that's all I know.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Okay, I think we're going to be actually starting
around one o'clock Pacific on myTwitch channel, which is Rob
Lavin.
Like all my other channels,should be starting around one
o'clock 12 o'clock specific time.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
They say that because it starts specifically at 12.
That's a family guy joke.
Man, I still remember that Ifucking old school family guy
would crack up yeah, d&d, I'mexcited.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
All right, I believe that's all the exciting stuff
we've got going on.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, so get out there, buy whatever chicken you
can afford, or don't buy chicken, buy whatever you want, like
honestly, it's fine have tofu.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I don't care, I'm not your mom.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Get yourself some honey.
You might.
You might eat it.
You might put on a wound now,who knows?
Just don't be your worst.
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