June 26, 2025 • 49 mins
Ever wondered why your feed is filled with extreme transformations and diet challenges? In this candid conversation, we pull back the curtain on social media algorithms that reward controversy while burying genuinely helpful health content.
The discussion takes a fascinating turn as we explore the phenomenon of fitness influencers presenting carefully curated physiques. From strategic lighting and posing to the unspoken truth about performance-enhancing substances, we break down why so many "natural" fitness personalities aren't being entirely honest about their methods. This deception becomes particularly problematic when these same influencers sell programs without disclosing the real story behind their results.
We tackle the delicate balance between pursuing health and actually enjoying life. Drawing from a Ricky Gervais perspective, we question whether extreme optimization is worth sacrificing life's pleasures. Are you truly living if you're bringing meal prep containers to Disneyland just to maintain your physique? Our hosts share personal experiences from both sides of this spectrum – from obsessive optimization to finding a sustainable middle ground where health enhances rather than restricts.
The conversation doesn't shy away from criticizing problematic content like extreme weight loss challenges that essentially recreate "The Biggest Loser" format with its known unsustainable approaches. We discuss why these methods get millions of views while realistic, sustainable approaches often go unnoticed.
Throughout it all, we emphasize the importance of nuance in health discussions – something increasingly rare in a social media landscape that rewards binary thinking. Whether discussing weight management, fitness approaches, or supplement use, we advocate for thoughtful consideration of the complex trade-offs involved in all health decisions.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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on the actual play button.
Okay, so it's like it's out,it's an outie.
Yeah, okay, interesting, we'vegot innies.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, we have innies.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Welcome to In Moderation where me and Mike are
hating on these other threebecause they've all got fancy
play buttons on their wallsdoesn't matter what the size of
your button is.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
It depends on what you do with it I thought you
were gonna say it depends ifit's an indie or an audi,
because john's got an audi, myadam and I have innies, but you
know, it's all beautiful intheir own way it's exactly
welcome to in moderation whenyou have one, the show where we
give you a moderate dose of info, sarc, sarcasm, and we already
know we're not YouTube approved.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
You already know me as the host of In Moderation
Today we bring you Mike, whocomes on In Moderation.
I don't think this is InModeration anymore.
I think I'm binging myappearances of In Moderation.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Now I'm standing in front of the I guess we'll fire
you for the next couple ofmonths.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I'm standing in front of the refrigerator at three in
the morning in my underwearwith a bag of shredded cheese,
eating it in a half stupor rightnow.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Sounds like a good time to me.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It's like Adam Lambert and Queen, except Mike
needs to play in as Adam Lambert.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
And the voice you just heard was Adam Wright,
whose first appearance was abouta year ago, actually.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Wow, time flies.
Was I on before you.
No, are you actually wow?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
time flies.
Was I on before you?
No, I'm kidding, I was on inapril.
I was a hot commodity last yearI don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It was definitely before I was.
I think I was pretty early on.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I feel like I was like, yeah, it was pretty early.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
All I know is I was going through the uh, the clips
of um us doing balder's gatethree together, which that
happened just after you came onthe podcast, because I don't
know if you saw in the Discord Iwas reminiscing about how we
became like more than mutuals byyou coming on the podcast, and
(01:56):
then we were talking about howyou were, you know, calling
people out I use some quotesabout not talking about gaza and
I was like, well then, you wantto come to a charity stream
with us?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
That was back when we talked about shit that mattered
, like trauma and healing it,and now it's just fucking
bullshit.
We just sit around, nothing.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
You can't talk about the real stuff anymore, because
every time you do it getssuppressed at least for me
anyway, it's.
I have to call people out andthen, like, shoehorn a message
into it because it's the onlything that works anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Old man yells at you, it's just isn't that just kind
of?
How people work, though, likeI'm telling, like for me, when I
, when I scroll through thealgorithm, the only time like a
good message gets through iswhen they're calling out a bad
message and then giving a goodmessage.
If you just sit there like, hey, let me help, gone, fuck it, it
doesn't even matter what yousay after that, I built my
platform on that, like how dareyou?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
that's what that's not in right now.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I'm sorry, mike, but it's, it's not.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It's right now, it's fucking dead you need to have
someone else saying and you gothat's the only way it fucking
works yeah
Speaker 1 (03:06):
you're so right.
I I made a.
What did I make?
A video, um, I think two weeksago, about like my you know kind
of a controversial video, youknow, about me in my service
uniform when I was in the army,yeah, and like how you know, I
did that.
I got like a quarter of amillion views.
I'm like, oh my god.
Finally, a video of mine poppedoff and then, like two days ago
, I made a video about howpeople can be you know how your
experience with hunger might betraumatic, because past
(03:28):
experiences Less than a thousandviews.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I'm like what's going on, man?
It's politics super hot rightnow, so like you just start with
politics and then just leadinto that, you don't even need
to say anything, Just like heypolitics.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Just show a picture of Trump, show a picture of
trump, I show a picture of trumpand then, anyway, I would just,
I would just yell politics atpeople like politics also, and
like I'm just promise you, thatthat probably would work.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Actually it would do it better right after the uh the
election.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
I posted a video where I just stared at the
camera for one minute,completely silent.
I didn't put a caption, not aword, nothing.
And that got plenty ofinteraction.
Just make a video where you sayLuigi.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
That worked for you on threads, didn't it?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
That's what I'm saying, for those that don't
know, I spent about a month anda half just tweeting.
I figured I think this thing'sgoing off keywords.
It's not using context oranything and my regular threads
weren't going off, so I justdecided to whatever thread.
Luigi Mangione, nothing else,not another word 10,000 likes.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
So I did it again.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
He cracked the code I ended up doing it like 400
times.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
In a row Unbroken.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I sent you the video.
What did you get?
What did you get for doing that?
Speaker 5 (04:47):
like 25 000 followers on threads, also the threads
bonus was happening at the time,they were paying me for it,
right?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
oh nice, yeah, that's wild I mean, that's what I'm
saying here.
The quiet kid in the corner,you've seen him on a couple
times recently.
Oh oh, beast to Beast, oh yes,hello.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yes, please say hi, did we not fully introduce
everyone?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Don't be shy.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, sorry, john, we got off on a tangent and forgot
you were here.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
It's fine, I'm just here to be moral support really,
and drink Kool-Aid.
It's actually.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Crystal Light.
Does it have Red 40 in it?
Speaker 5 (05:25):
That's well.
Actually it's a new, new oneit's red 41.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
You want to know about it.
You got the advanced release ofred 41.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
That's the beta it has even more red and even more
yes, all your favorite are redand 1% more.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Big pharma is trying to do sponsorships right now the
only way I would be okay withlike going into like a
supplement company is if youlean into the chemicals things
like somebody.
Somebody said like they wanted.
I was like I want to name itall the chemicals.
And somebody was like whatabout, oops, all chemicals.
And I'm like I, I want that.
So I've never wanted anythingas bad, as I want that to be my
(06:02):
supplement brand start.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Start your own energy drink.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
In moderation presents oops all chemicals.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
It's just like, yeah, red 40 and aspartame and all
that shit.
It's just like it's front andcenter on the packaging.
We don't go, oh, it's free fromthem.
We're like, no, these are likeour fucking ingredients in big
bold letters.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
And then I'd be okay with like energy drinks and all
that shit big bold letters andthen I'd be okay with, like
energy drinks and all that shit.
We had a whole list ofpreservatives.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Even though there's nothing that can spoil in it,
just throw them in there anyway,fuck it there you go trisodium
phosphate, that's just, we don'tneed that but that bitch is in
there but that genuinely issorry to actually bring up
something that's interesting,that's something but is this is
something that's interestingbecause, like, I think that
that's super funny and I wouldbe super down for that.
(06:49):
But the fact is that most peoplethat would even really be
interested in supplements alsoare like in their okay, this,
okay, this is just a thoughtthat came to my head, but
they're in their head.
They are oh, I don't want anychemicals.
And when they say there's nochemicals, that that's always
better, but they'll also be OKwith those chemicals if there's
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protein in it.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
You know, if there's like, if it's a protein bar, and
then it's like, oh well, thechemicals, it has to be there,
you know there's a large enoughgym community like I got tagged
in a video where there's like aguy that's like, I drink energy
drinks because they're unhealthy, that's why, like, I drink them
because they have chemicals,not in spite of them.
Like that's why I picked themout and I think there's enough
(07:32):
people cheers to that and likeour followers are like those
people and there's a lot ofthose people at least, right.
So I feel like we have a largeenough group of people that are
like, yes, yes, give me thatshit that we could just throw
everything out there.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
It would be so funny because there would be those
influencers who would try and inquotations, influencers who
would try and call it out likethis is so unhealthy for you,
and that would actually be evenbetter, because they're like
yeah, it's, oops, all chemicals,absolutely yes, we're getting
free fucking publicity.
Free publicity.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
People are like yes chemicals, give them in my mouth
.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Nah, I put those chemicals into my body, which is
chemicals, it's all chemicalsand just fucking lean into it.
Stop shying away from this,like oh, it's aspartame,
freonium, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Like no, it's got that shit.
That's why you want it.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
You know what I think of often when I hear the health
and I guess we are healthinfluencers and health is
obviously incredibly importantand something we want to
prioritize.
But I remember an old interviewfrom Ricky Gervais, who he was
doing an interview and they weretalking.
I can't remember who wasinterviewing him, but he was
asking, like Ricky was justbasically talking about like why
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do I want to live like thisperfectly healthy life?
Why do I want to extend my lifeinto like my 90s?
Or like, oh, if I eat healthyand I do all this stuff, I'll
live an extra 10 years.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Those are the worst years of your life.
Why do I want to live when I'm?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
80 or 90 years old.
Why am?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I extending the worst part of my life.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Right, you're like, it's not like you're extending
your 30s, you're extending.
You're like 90 years old,living to 100.
I'm incontinent, I mean, I'mnot independent, I can't, I
don't want to live that long.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
That's I'm like.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You know I'm like it is, and you know, it just really
kind of makes me think, becauseI'm like it is important to
live, um, live your life, butyou also have to.
Or it's like, live healthy, butyou also have to live your life
.
You know what I mean.
And if you never enjoy thingsall for the sake of living
longer, you haven't really livedat all.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah right, yeah no, there's also the aspect of like
living healthier into thoseyears, because a lot of the
times the reason they're unableto do things at those age at the
70s, 80s, 90s is because theydidn't eat well enough, didn't
exercise, blah, blah right.
So, like you want to do that,so you're healthier.
But, there's a tipping point.
There's a tipping point whereyou reach 88 and it doesn't
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fucking matter anymore andyou're like, damn, I can't do
shit yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Just like sit here.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
So I get it.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean definitely thereare there, I'm sorry.
Go ahead, joe.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
I was just going to to say, like something that I've
talked a lot about on thedifferent pages or whatever that
I've had, like is that?
For, obviously, I talk a lotabout weight loss cause that's
where I come from and stuff andI always tell people that, like
losing weight should be, in myopinion, about improving the
quality of your life, right, andlike there are many things that
you might have to start takingaway to to make that happen, but
the goal should be, you know,in moderation, right, like
happen, but the goal should be,you know, in moderation, right,
like um, it should be about likehaving certain things, like
you're able to put certainthings back in, right, and then
(10:31):
it's like what you were,whatever we were all kind of
talking about.
It's like when, when you startto live your life all in it,
everything is about optimizingevery single little thing out of
it's like okay, are you livinganymore?
Are you existing?
Because that feels like justexisting, and it reminds me of
how I felt when I was at myheaviest and skipping out on so
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many things in my life that Iwanted to do, because I couldn't
do those things because of thesize that I was.
Therefore, I was existing right.
It's just interesting how it'slike it's a circle man, it's all
kind of comes back around.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I remember when I was at my leanest, you know, I was
doing this bodybuilding programand I was really trying to like
shred, you know, like get likethis ideal physique that most
gym influencers are trying toget after and it was the fittest
I've ever been in my life.
But I was taking my meal prepsto Disneyland, to the county
fair, like I was missing out onso many like opportunities to
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enjoy fitness my life, all forthe sake of that physique.
And listen, if that's a once ina while thing, like that's fine
, but I wasn't doing it for anypurpose other than to look good
and I and that's not a life thatI now want to live I don't look
back and go, wow, you know, I'mreally happy that I, that I
meal prepped at disneyland.
You know what I?
mean like it's just not worth itto me hear me out there's,
(11:43):
there's, there's this space.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
There's this space between brian johnson, which is
the guy that's trying to live tolike 500, and injecting his
son's blood into him to do liketo eke out everything possible.
You didn't know.
Yeah, no, he's got his son'sblood in him and like he's doing
all sorts of just just look,it's, it's very interesting.
But yeah, I, it's like ascience experiment.
How long can you live if you doliterally everything?
(12:06):
His morning routine is sixhours long to just do everything
from the UV therapy, all thatsort of stuff.
I don't know.
Uv, what's it?
Red light therapy, red lighttherapy, wow.
And then there's a spacebetween that and then the rock
star who takes every drug, putsit in one needle and goes fuck
it, let's see what happens.
You know what I'm saying.
And you have to find that kindof space in between where you
(12:27):
have to live a little.
But if you're just living tolive, that's fucking.
What are you?
What are you going to look backon like that's all the time you
spent trying to live longer?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
all that lovely time under that red light therapy
thinking your thoughts yeah I Ihave light is made out of red.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
That's just performative for content.
But I mean, there are peopleout there speaking of
performative for content, johnuh.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
First off, john, do you have?
Are you a coach as well?
Speaker 5 (12:52):
wait.
Why did you put me right afterthat?
Those two things are not goingto performative, john, let's
talk about you that's importantto the question is this some
sort of uh, no, it's a catch,yeah, I just, I really think
obese to base is reallyperformative for content.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I know it's so to coaches here.
Have you ever gotten a clientcome to you and been like and
shown you a picture of like abodybuilder at peak week and
said like this is what I want toaim for, this is kind of what I
want to go for and it's youhave to explain to them.
No, this is literallyperformative for content.
(13:26):
This is literally performativefor content Like this person
looks like this because they'retaking a bunch of pictures
around the time.
They're at their most lean,they're posting it throughout
the year.
This is not what they look like, and even right after this
picture, they're not flexinganymore, they're not in good
lighting, they're not tanned upand all that.
It's like.
These bodies are literallyperformative for content.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Like obesity, yeah no , that's a good point.
No, it's one of those thingsthat I will say like for me, I
haven't had any of my clientsthat I've worked with that have
kind of had those expectations,but it is.
It's a bigger conversation whenit comes to like social media
and this stuff.
Like I posted it's actuallyfunny that you bring that up
because I posted a a real,because I probably should post
(14:11):
on TikTok more, but I alwaysforget but posted a real um
talking about like you know, abody that looks like this can
also look like this, and it waswithin the same day.
It was me like showing my looseskin and then me at the gym
with the pump and it's like justtrying to show people, even the
people that you look to, asinspirations.
If you're someone that has lostweight, that has loose skin that
is not super happy about it,even those people and I put
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myself in that same categorythere can be some performative
stuff that happens.
It's just that just is what itis right and it's like, even if
you are trying to follow peoplethat you feel are not extreme
and not over the top is a levelof I mean honestly, there is a
level of performing any.
I think anyone is kind ofperforming to an extent right
(14:53):
like like I wouldn't be sittinghere talking to nobody if it
wasn't for a podcast.
You know what I mean.
So it's like you know, there'slike a level of it a little bit
with everyone.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I feel like there's content, it's content creation,
I mean there is that, it's.
It's.
It's not authentic by design,like it can't be.
You know.
There's like I remember, youknow, when I used to make this
is a far, a long time agoactually the thing that reminded
me of what somebody commentedon a video probably made like
four or five years ago, but itwas me doing like some positive
gym motivation, uh, slogans, youknow, like just some positive
(15:23):
things, and there's clips overme doing an exercise and I
remember doing one rep of thoseexercise each to get the clip.
It's like it's, guys, it's justfor content, you know, and so
many people, it's so easy tolook so strong, like you're
working so hard.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
You do two reps of that exercise for the, for the,
for the montage, you know so,yeah, it's all, it is my muscle
definition, just by goingturning off the ring light and
turning on the overhead lightyeah that will make my if I flex
my bicep will pop so much morewith the overhead light.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Yeah.
That's exactly why I have thelighting the way that I do.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Wait, let me turn my lighting on.
I'm conscious of my posture,because the light hits my traps
differently if I hunch.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
So you have to have good posture, Ah look at that.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Look, there's a little bit of a gap there.
Maybe I am building muscledefinition, who knows?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, it just comes with the territory, and I think
it's so important.
I really like creators who areauthentic about themselves, and
I think you can tell so muchmore about a person by their
principles and their values andwhat they preach rather than
what they look like.
And I feel sorry for people whoare looking to start a journey
like this, because oftentimesthat's what they are doing is
(16:33):
they're looking for the mostjacked dude or chick, because
that's what they want to looklike and because that's body
goals.
That's who they sign up with.
And I'm like guys, this personis green as baby shit.
They don't know what they'redoing, know like they're,
they're brand new coach.
Like you go into a gym, thebiggest coaches or the you know
like the most strong, likebiggest, uh, you know physique
(16:54):
wise coaches oftentimes have themost, uh, the most clients,
even though they might not haveexperience, um, so it's just.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
It's just a real, it's a real shame, um scrolling
through instagram is basicallylike scrolling through or going
through like a haircut thing.
It's like oh, which one do Iwant right?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
yeah, that's their resume.
You know, and I talked aboutthis.
Can I talk?
Can I?
Can I plug my own podcast, isthat?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
is that before?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
no, he's gonna bleep it out, we're just gonna cut
this whole on my unnamed podcaston my brand new podcast um,
it's called showing up anyway,but I talked about you know how?
Um, how there's a saying inthis industry that your, your
body is your business card, andI absolutely hate that saying
because some of the mostexperienced coaches and and
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incredibly empathetic andunderstanding.
And?
Um, the coaches that get themost results with their clients
are not the most jacked ones.
They're the ones who understandhuman psychology and the ones
that understand that you have tobe flexible and that life
happens.
And?
Um, they're not out thereputting their body on social
(18:02):
media all the time becausethat's not the most important
thing.
Um, definitely not in a coach.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
The number one researcher in the field.
Um, most people think it's bradschoenfeld because he's very
present on social media.
It's is stewart phillips, andif you go look at his picture
stewart phillips he just lookslike a regular guy.
He's got a little bit of apunch, but he is so
knowledgeable about anythingexercise science.
(18:29):
So what I've been?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
finding interesting is like lately on instagram I've
seen, uh, both on account.
On the male side, it's kind ofshowing what you were talking
about with the lighting, like oh, look at lighting over top.
And then this is me and don'tjudge yourself.
Blah, blah, blah.
And then I'll see.
On the.
The women's side, it's morelike people say I'm a natural
beauty, but my hair is fake, myeyelashes, my eyelashes are fake
, my nails are fake, this isfake lip filler, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah.
(18:50):
And I find it interesting andlike the comments you'll get
people saying on one side,people are like happy, like
thank you for being, um, youknow, honest, and everything.
And other ones are like whydon't you just then not do any
of that?
And I find that kind of aninteresting topic because it's
like, well, I want to look acertain way, right, like I do
these things, I add these thingsbecause I want to look this
specific way.
(19:11):
Why do I want to look that way?
Is that because of societalpressures?
Maybe, but like it does make mehappier to do this and to look
this way, but it does take a lotof work and I don't know.
Like there I kind of feel likethere's also a balance Like how
much work do you want to put infor how well you want to look
and how much happiness is thatgoing to bring, versus how much
work you have to put in to getto that thing?
Speaker 5 (19:30):
yeah, it kind of like .
It reminds me of like.
When people make that argumentit's like whoa well I?
I understand that you don'tlove society, but I have noticed
that you live in a society, sowhat about that?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
it's just like that's not an answer, man.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Like we all yes, we all live in a society and you
can point out things that youdon't like while still obviously
having to participate in that.
Like I don't I don't lovelandlords, but guess what I rent
?
Like what am I gonna do live?
live on the street likeeverything about society,
everybody go like and so I, I Ithink it's one of those things
where it's and I'm sure I meanI'm I'm sure most people can
(20:07):
kind of understand this but it'slike people that leave comments
like that they're just tryingto be contrarian, right, and
just be like, oh you're well,you say you don't like this, and
well, and it's just like, comeon, like let's actually engage
with the, the point that'strying to be made, and if you
disagree, that's fine.
But like bring something to thetable more than just like well,
have you thought about thisthing?
(20:29):
And it's just like you're notgiving any sort of answer here.
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Yeah, on the topic of bodies being business cards as
well, and I think this is afactor that we I don't think
we've touched on this, unlessI'm forgetting Everybody that
you look up to, anyone thatlooks a little bit too big to be
true.
They're taking something tolook like that.
Anybody that claims to benatural, and all they do is harp
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on that all day, every day.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
they're not natural and that has to do with and
that's and that's all genders,that's not just men you know
that's true, that's absolutely.
That's absolutely like I I'vehad uh, I had a coach who worked
for me who is not natural andshe was had an incredible
physique but was not natural.
But you wouldn't know itbecause you know, like it just
depends on the dose as well, andit's not a big deal.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
No, if you want to do that, do it, but I think it's
important.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, totally Don't do it.
Just don't lie about it.
Just don't lie about it.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, just don't lie about it, like I don't have a
problem with the people that arealready doing it.
My problem is when they'reselling fitness programs and not
telling you that that's howthey got fit.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
It's like it doesn't feel quite honest to me.
Well, I mean, it's not, and thebiggest part about that is,
like, obviously for theindividual it's a problem, but I
think for society, but like,for the overall problem is that
it skews perception.
Right, public perception isskewed and like I was I.
I I was on a TikTok the otherday and it was like some someone
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was talking about how, like,people's perception is skewed on
what is like buff and what'snot right, and like this guy,
one of his coworkers was talkingto him and he was like, yeah,
you know, I I want to startlifting and um, but I don't want
to get too big.
So, like, in a few years I'dlove to to look like Chris
Bumstead.
And the dude was like, wow, youare talking about literally Mr
(22:19):
Olympia, that is, there is no.
There's really no more jackedthan that Like.
And it's just like becausepeople maybe see him next to
like the monster, humongous,freak bodybuilders, right.
But like if you saw him in reallife, every single person that
walked by would take a secondlook and be like holy crap,
(22:40):
right.
If you went to your gym,everyone would be like that guy
is by far the most jacked dudein the gym, that that comes here
just at all like he should bekicked out, and it's he's he's
being really great, I feel yeah,and I honestly, I can
understand, because that'sprobably what people think about
me when I go to the gym.
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but that's besides the point.
We don't have to keep talkingabout that.
But like, but like.
But seriously, it is one ofthose things where it does.
It skews people's's perception,and the same thing, I think the
same thing, can be said aboutweight loss as well, because on
social media, what is rewardedand pushed is extremes, right.
(23:21):
So if someone loses an extremeamount of weight relatively
quickly, that usually garners alot of attention, and then
people start to think, oh, thatis just, that's normal and
that's what I'm supposed to bedoing, yes, and then I'm getting
off topic a little bit, butthis is something I think about
a lot.
With social media.
It is, in my opinion, it can beso dangerous, because a lot of
times people pick up on that,the people that are losing the
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weight, and they're just like Iam going to do the most unhinged
, unhealthy.
I am going to do the mostunhinged, unhealthy, insane
stuff to lose weight as fast aspossible.
And the goal this is my opinion, I just want to put that out
there, but I feel a lot of timesthe goal is not I need to get
healthier.
Maybe that was the start right,but the goal ends up not being
(24:04):
I need to get healthier.
It almost doesn't even be Ineed to lose weight, it's I want
to grow on social media andthis is the best way for me to
do that.
And I've noticed it to a pointwhere it's just like I don't
know how it's.
It's one of those things that Ihaven't really talked about it
in a post because I feel likepeople are like you're just
jealous, right Cause I've been.
I don't mean to c across thatway, it's just something that I
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have noticed over the past years.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
I'm sorry I really kind of took the topic to
another point, but no, I I likeit first off, if had hit on I
wasn't trying on social mediaback when I was losing my weight
, but if I was and like I had aviral video and then you know I
had a following like I do nowguaranteed I would have used
that as as extra fuel againstmyself.
(25:01):
I lost weight in some of themost horrendous ways and I can
only imagine that would havestoked something really ugly in
me if I had lost all my weightby the time I started talking
about it.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Yeah, For the most part me too.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
There was a viral video where a woman said uh, it
wasn't until I prioritizedgaining health over losing
weight that things changed, andI think that was like a great
way to put it, because if youfocus on that often, you you
know weight loss does happen onits own.
Does it happen as fast?
No, which is the fuckingproblem?
Speaker 3 (25:31):
right, you can go on the keto diet, lose 10 pounds in
a week and you're like fuck,yeah, look at this, I'm doing
great what I hate is you said um, social media is glamorizing
all this stuff, but media ingeneral, yeah, yeah, you see it
like movies, movie stars arehaving to be more and more
jacked looking on screen.
Some of you guys play marvelrivals.
(25:53):
One thing I absolutely hateabout marvel rivals is I went in
and I looked at the charactermodels and I was like, oh my god
, they put everybody on steroids.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, but okay, listen, listen to be fair on
that one.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
They're super rob's just bad at the game.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I give a little bit of leeway when they're goddamn
superheroes they're literally inthe name is superhero, like
they are beyond what humans are.
So I'm like listen.
I guess.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, but the superheroes thing came from like
mutations, not steroids, andthat's what got them jacked as
fuck.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I mean it's not, it's mutated, it's green goo that
made him all jacked.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Okay, but imagine if they did add Lou Ferrigno as the
Everybody else is normal, buthe's
Speaker 2 (26:34):
there.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
It's not even cartoonized, it's literally just
a green screen video.
They'll probably hear this andat least have his skin for like
one season or something.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
That would be awesome .
Okay, here's my thing when theytake like Luke Skywalker if you
haven't.
My thing when they take likeLuke Skywalker if you haven't
seen.
Like Luke Skywalker originallywas like you know, look normal.
And then, like the 90s, early2000s came and it was like
jacked as fuck Luke Skywalker.
It looked like he was on, justyou know, the kitchen sink and
that I'm like okay, that'sstupid, like you just took a
(27:10):
character who is already givinghim strength.
No, it's him in the movie.
You see him.
He's not maybe scrawny, hemight not be the right word, but
he's normal, looking right, andthen they make him look jack
where it's like superhero,they're fucking.
They've got all the the stuffand the mutations to make them
that way.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
That's my thought process on that you know, like I
don't mind it when it's sorry,go ahead.
I was just gonna.
I was just gonna tie it back towhat we were kind of talking
about a little earlier.
We were talking about socialmedia and glamorizing weight
loss and stuff like that, and Ijust saw a video that was
talking about Mr Beast and achallenge that he did with a
friend of his to lose 100 pounds, and basically it's insane how
(27:41):
things come full circle, becausethat literally is just the
biggest loser.
It just absolutely was thebiggest loser on a youtube
episode, um yeah, and and hejust put him in a room right for
for 24 hours a day.
For what?
A month or?
Speaker 4 (27:58):
it was until he lost 100.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
It was until he lost the faster you do it the faster
you're done.
So obviously you just eatnothing and you just yeah, and
he was exercising like eighthours a day.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
And I'm like what are we doing here, man?
Like what are we glamorizingthis?
For what are we promoting?
This is not health.
It's not health and it's notsustainable.
It's not realistic.
It's just for views.
There is nothing that is goingto translate into just not
motivating anybody.
It might for a few days a week,and then they realize I can't
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exercise eight hours a day.
Uh, I don't have access to.
You know, a trainer, a um, achef, like all these things that
I'm sure he had in the, in the,in the video, and it's just.
It just pisses me off.
I see that coming.
All you know, we worked so hardto put biggest loser behind us
and here it comes again in theform of mr beast I hate, mr
(28:53):
beast sure Sure you do, you can.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
You can say whatever you want.
It's your podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
The guy.
I know everybody loves hisvideos, but he has glamorized
abusing people.
That's what his videos are.
He just abuses people.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
And then pays them.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
We just lost a few days.
I think it's a mixed bag.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I think we just lost and then it's a mixed bag.
I think he definitely does somegood.
He definitely does some good.
You can argue that the badoutweighs the good and I can
definitely see that argument,but he definitely does.
At least you know.
Like are his videos?
like the videos where he's likeI restore he does some good, as
long as he profits from it well,well, yeah, but like I'm not
good, listen, I don't give afuck if someone profits from
something, it's what they'redoing.
And it's like, hey, I gave1,000 people their eyesight back
(29:37):
and like, I get it, that's forviews, and I get the arguments
against it, but at least he'sgetting views doing that, as
opposed to like, hey, I madethis person starve themselves
until they almost died.
I don't like that as much.
I prefer the ones where they'relike I gave water to people in
(29:58):
africa and it's like, yes,you're like, okay, cool, I get.
I get the argument against it.
Like you're just, you're justexploiting people for views, and
I, I get that, but at leastthere he's doing some good with
it.
It's better than doing nothing,in my opinion.
What I will say is yes, we putbiggest loser behind us, so
instead we should focus on othertv, like reality tv shows, like
naked and afraid.
That's obviously better.
But when I try and reenact thatin my neighborhood, people call
the police and it's a fuckingproblem.
(30:20):
That's that.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
That's my main issue with this yeah, you got to do on
youtube.
That's what it is, liam, if youI mean I tried to do an episode
of the blurry part or no?
Speaker 2 (30:29):
do I need the?
Speaker 4 (30:29):
blurry part or no, just blur your, not, just blur
your face.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
It's only you.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Americans that do the blurry thing, nothing else.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Don't blur anything else.
The rest of the world we don'tcare about blurry, I will blur
everything but the genitals,everything else is blurred, I do
the reverse I do
Speaker 1 (30:43):
a reverse, naked and afraid.
But seriously, liam's naked andwe're all afraid.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I'm naked and you're afraid is the name of the show.
It's actually so amazing that,like a lot of shows that have
nudity and stuff, if you watchit in Canada or UK, there's no
blurring.
So when you guys watch it andyou talk about blurring, I'm
like what blurring?
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Yeah, I've been seeing cock and balls my whole
life.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Right, you know, in America you, somebody can be
eviscerated and they get a pg-13one nipple by a female, and
that is rated r.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
You're like that makes sense.
Yeah, you know, the greatestpart about this naked and afraid
, but with the reverse blurringwould be that people would start
to find differences betweensets of genitals, to refer to
the like when they're talking totheir friends in the office
about like hey, do you see thatepisode?
Speaker 5 (31:35):
that one's lefty, that one's righty oh shit, I
can't tell what they're doing onthe show.
Apparently they built something?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
it's all blurred.
I have no idea.
All I saw was cock and ballsthey muted their voices too.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
So you just see like a cloud with balls trying to
survive in nature no, how about,like that deep voice, think of
when someone's anonymous, thewhole?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
episode.
I think all the, I think allthe female listeners have left
at this point.
Oh no, sorry listen, they,they've.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
They've been with us this long.
They're laughing at this.
Shit's funny, it's a goldenidea I mean they must like it.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
The majority of our listeners identify as female.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Oh, shit, Women can be naked too.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
That's our stance.
In moderation, women can alsobe naked.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
That sounded like a revelation.
You just had.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Wait a minute, you got me out.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
You got me out this whole time.
You got me out here.
I just confirmed it.
They can be naked.
Fuck the chat GPT.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
I just had the best idea.
Hold on, guys, wait a second.
Shut the episode down aroundone sec.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I need to search something, just I've never seen
it before, but I know they canbe naked I just googled women
naked.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
You guys, you're not gonna believe what I saw.
Oh man, you know it's a realbig topic.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
You know what's health?
Laughing Laughter is fuckingthe best.
That's what they say.
It's the best medicine, man.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Not as good as I don't know I was going to make a
drug deal.
I won't do that.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
You're too innocent.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, not as much as the stuff that rhymes with
Tatooine Halloween, halloween,that's the best medicine.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Halloween is the best medicine.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
You know what, though ?
They take the fucking Reese'sand they put the Reese's pieces
in the Reese's.
It's not as good.
You'd think it'd be better.
It's like extra Reese's, butit's somehow worse.
I don't like it.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
I've never had that before.
I'm not a fan of that.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
No, it's too much, they went too far, they stopped.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I'm not a fan of that .
No, it's too much.
They went too far, they stopped.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
The thing is they're messing with a golden ratio.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, exactly Like they've had scientists like
trying to hack our brains for,like, what's the best tasting
thing?
You've already got it, you'redone.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Wait, which one do you guys think is the best?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
What's the best?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
candy.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Just like Reese's Personally.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
I like, like the pucks I do you guys have.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
No, that's different than the regular reese's no, the
huge ones, the pucks oh, yes,yeah, I had four of them, one, I
don't think okay I was worriedthat they didn't exist in
america can you only get them?
Speaker 3 (34:04):
there's reese's pucks big enough to put a hole in
they're huge, but I like thembecause they are a higher ratio
of the peanut butter tochocolate I like the reese's
eggs.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I think those are.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
The eggs are good.
The eggs.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Did you have the twix eggs?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I did not have twix eggs.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
I love twix.
I did not realize they could beimproved.
They had these twix eggs andit's just like it's a whole
cookie with uh, you know,caramel and everything in there
and it's.
It was just satisfying to biteinto the original twix is like
my favorite candy.
That stuff is satisfying tobite into yep, me too.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
My favorite candy bar is take five, that's my, that's
an interesting one, have youguys?
Speaker 4 (34:43):
have you guys had before?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
that's not usually, I don't understand what that is
underrated take five is prettygood yeah, so I love I love an
salty, sweet combo almond joy Idon't like wait.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Is that the?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
one wait.
Which one's the one that hascoconut mounds I'm enjoying.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
No coke yeah they both have coconut I don't like
that that makes me mad oh, Idon't like that coconut, of
course, right as I have to puton an adult shirt and go on a
business call, we're talkingabout my favorite thing.
Yeah, I, I gotta get out ofhere.
Thank you for having me again.
Be kind to yourself.
All Go away, mike needs to getlost.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Mike, get out of here .
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Thanks for coming on Mike Speaking of, speaking of
performative.
Mike needs to be performative.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Well, alright, fellas , I guess I'll just Walk away
forever, finally gone, finally.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
God damn.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Mr.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
I have clients.
I hate that guy Over here.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
You know you talk about Mr Beast.
You know who I really fuckinghate.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I will say my favorite candy bar, Mr Big.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I've never heard of that in my life.
You're making candy bars.
Up now, no one's had that.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
It's a Canadian candy bar.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
No none of you have had that because it's a Canadian
candy bar, so it'sautomatically not even in the
running.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Probably.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
I want to say I probably sent Liam one.
You probably sent me one, Idon't even remember.
I don't remember what.
I had for breakfast, let alonewhen you sent me a candy bar
months ago.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Was it a Mr Big?
I don't think it was a Mr Bigfor breakfast Interesting I
don't remember what I sent you,Adam?
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Vanilla wafer coated in caramel.
That's okay, because I don'tsend you these.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Crunchy peanuts andie crisps be nude personally oh,
oh, you like the, oh, you likethe regular ones the regular
veggie chips.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
No, I'm just kidding, I don't they're not that bad.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
They're salty man, that's kind of like air they are
yeah it just tastes like saltyair.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, that fills you up for about three and a half
milliseconds, mr big jesus,jesus, in moderation, of course,
okay well, before we finish up,I want to go around with
Something that's pissed us off alot this week and not fucking
in like politics and bombingshit.
That's bringing us down Toomuch.
I don't want to be sad rightnow.
Okay, so I'm going to go.
First, I got tagged in a videowith like a mother who was like
(36:49):
feeding her kids and like it hadlike a brownie and french fries
.
Like on the plate also had likestrawberries and shit and
whatever, but people fuckingdestroyed her.
There's like 3 000 comments ofpeople just like you you
shouldn't have reproduced andshit.
Like that level it's bad.
And I'm just like god damn,like I think it's people who
don't have kids like.
(37:09):
You know what like oakley hadfor breakfast?
Uh, welch's fruit snacks andchocolate milk.
Like that's what she had,that's what she wanted.
I was like, all right, sure,here you go.
Later on she had avocado andlike apples and shit.
Like it's all fine, kids growon.
Damn, anything you gave them.
It's like the way these peopleact.
We should all be dead.
We shouldn't even got to adultslike eating like cheez-its and
(37:30):
all the shit that I definitelydid as a kid, you know, pissed
me off what about you, rob?
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I don't know if anything pissed me off this week
.
I was too busy being sad.
Well, you know what one it's.
The only thing that's reallypissed me off this week is I've
been working on my twitch a lotlately and the amount of big
twitch accounts that are onlybig because of boobs and
(37:57):
actually no, I shouldn't saythey're big because of boobs, I
should say they're big becauseof horny men.
Oh well, yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
I feel like you're talking about my account here.
Definitely talking about John'saccount With my chest okay.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
But there's no community to them.
I go and I research whatthey're doing and stuff and I go
into the channels and thechat's dead.
It's literally like 400, 500people in there just ogling the
person.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah, yeah, sex sells man.
That's been around forever andit will never go away.
Our stupid monkey brains justmake us go towards that like
it's you know, like I don't forme when I say oh yeah, yeah I, I
understand where you're comingfrom, man, I really do.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
But I will just like to try and not to make you feel
better, your own person, you doyour own thing, but like,
understand that those peopleit's not like they would be
coming to your channel anyways,right, and so they're gonna do
their thing and like the way Isee it is, I understand that
there's like this argument liketwitch shouldn't have this and
they shouldn't have that.
But I think, like, as long asit's separated correctly, right,
(39:01):
like all I can hope for is thatit helps the the site grow and
it gets more people.
But I, I understand, especiallyif you, if you do feel like you
are putting in a ton of work, aton of effort into this, and
then you feel like someone elseis garnering so much you know
benefit, when you feel likethey're not putting in that
amount of effort.
I know that it can befrustrating, but my advice would
just be like, focus on what youare doing and and appreciate
(39:25):
the people that you do have,because it is very easy to see
and compare it to other peopleand be like why am I not getting
what, what they're getting,especially when you feel like
you're putting in more work orwhatever it might be.
Uh, but I just, you know,that's my advice that you didn't
ask for at all.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
But I, I just understand where you're coming
from giving me that advice Iwould like to say, now that
you've given me that advice, Iwould like to say I have a lot
of respect for adam but like, ifyou go to watch adam's Twitch,
there's elements of all the sexcells and stuff.
But he's also got a massivecommunity there.
The chat is just popping,people are having fun.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
It's great, thank you .
Yes, I use my body to myadvantage, exactly, especially
your booty and those red shorts.
Booty.
In those red shorts, I I'mgonna say you know, what's
pissed me off this week is um iswhen influencers speak up to
talk about something that'simportant to them and they get
accused of like selling out oroh, dude, that's, oh, that shit
(40:24):
pissed me off when that happenedoh man.
So I'm specifically, I think,talking about uh, scotty, scotty
gay fitness who, who made avideo talking about some of the
you know, ice immigration stuffand that was really important to
him and, um, and yeah, peoplemade videos talking about how
he's a sellout now and I've lostrespect for, for, for scotty,
and he was reading from a scriptand someone paid him to do all
(40:45):
this stuff and I'm like you havegot to be fucking kidding me if
you guys don't know scotty'sscotty's morals and values.
Um, and he's not the kind ofperson who's going to shut the
fuck up about it.
But even doesn't matter, likeit doesn't matter what who it is
or what it was.
If they're speaking aboutsomething so important to them,
it doesn't necessarily mean justbecause you disagree with it
hear me out, though.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I figured it out.
I figured out why they're doingit.
It's a fucking coping mechanismbecause they saw scotty as
someone who believed in theirideology and when, when that was
challenged, they can't just say, oh, he thinks different, it
has to be he was paid for it.
It's a coping mechanism.
100%.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah, yeah.
They like him so much that theythey cannot stand the fact that
he doesn't agree with them.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Exactly, yep, that's all it is.
That's the way of coping.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Yep yep, yeah, I totally agree with you.
So that's what?
For me, it's really hard tocome up with an answer because
I'm just very positive andnothing ever really bothers me
or makes me upset ever um okay,putting jokes aside, what
actually pisses you off?
this is basically all I thinkabout is how stuff pisses me off
, um, but I will say and this is, I'm not sure it's one of those
(41:52):
ones that it's hard to talkabout, because that's part of
what pisses me off, because Ifeel like if you have any sort
of dissenting opinion, peopleassume that you think a certain
way and so, uh, like with thishas been, I guess it's been
pissed me off for a while, butyou know, um, it's the, the
issue.
I don't even want to call itissue, but just the, the fact
that if you are at all criticalor or try and have people think
(42:17):
a little bit more about likeGLP-1 medication, semaglutide,
ozempic, all of that stuff, ifyou have any sort of opinion,
that's not just everyone shouldbe taking.
It's good and it's good foreveryone and it's great and
everyone should like.
If you are at all criticalabout it, people just assume
that, like I've had people likeyou.
You just hate fat people, youjust want people to say fat, and
it's frustrating because itfeels like any conversation that
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is not complete.
Yes, this is good and everyoneshould be taking it and there
should be no critical thoughtabout.
It is like shot down, as youare someone that you know
dislikes or whatever, um, andthat's something that's kind of
been annoying me.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I don't know if you guys know I get that because
people don't really like nuanceright, especially on if you're
doing things on short form, likeespecially people want just
like to the point, and when youtry to bring that up, and that's
why a lot of these like comp,these topics I don't talk about
too much because I have a lot ofopinions on them and a lot of
thoughts and I can't justdistill it down to like 30
seconds of like good, bad, youknow, and I, so I I don't like
(43:18):
talk about it too much.
So I like I get it, I feel it.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah, yeah, there can't, there can't possibly be.
I mean, it just kind of comesback to that we're talking about
, you know, um, people damn, Ilost my train of thought but
people automatically assumingyou're either for something or
against something.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
They just can't possibly.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
You can't possibly have two thoughts at once, even
though humans really are complex.
We may have, we may believe twothings at once, but if we talk
about one thing, it doesn'tautomatically mean we hate the
other.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
That's an interesting .
I love and hate that so muchbecause if you use a thing, even
just using a thing, people arelike what's wrong with the other
?
That's an interest I, I, I that.
I.
I love and hate that so muchbecause if you use a thing, even
just using a thing, people likewhat's wrong with the other
thing.
You're like what, what are youtalking about?
I made a, I made a cucumbersalad out of these fucking quart
cups and someone was likewhat's wrong with a bowl?
And I was like, and I literallyjust responded it gives you
(44:09):
cancer and dementia and alsomakes you bad at pickleball.
That was my response becauseI'm like what do you mean?
What's wrong with it?
Just use a fucking bowl likeI'm using yeah, that's um that's
called.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
That's why post hoc, ergo proctor hawk, that's a
superhero also.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yes, it's also superhero, is that it sounds
that is.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
That is it's.
Yeah, it's a logical fallacy.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
If this, then that.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
That happens a lot for sure.
That drives me nuts, if you'refor this.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
You must be against that.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
Exactly All right.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Can't wait for the post hoc, ergo propter hoc skin
in Marvel Rivals.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
I think we'll get that after the boob skin it's
just boobs.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
The reverse, right after the reverse censored, the
reverse censored, it's thecharacter and their genitals.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
There's some game developer listening to us right
now an indie game developer andthey're like this is going to be
a brilliant game.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
If they could do it they would do it.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
No, no, no, the name of it is 100% going to be Oops,
all Genitals for sure.
Oops, boom Boom.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Okay, oops, all Genitals Listen.
If they can make a game Okay,whoever's making?
Speaker 3 (45:12):
that game.
Make sure you tag us and sendit to us and give us keys and
all that.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
If you can make a game where you're just a slice
of bread, which is a game, I'msure you can make an oops all
genitals.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Like all the games out there.
I feel like you'd buy that justout of pure curiosity.
Heck yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
And you generosity, heck yeah.
And you get to customize yourgenitals like I'd like the balls
to be a little bit lower.
Jesus christ, how much hairwould you like on there?
I mean like well trimmed.
But definitely some bro, thatgame would sell, that's all I'm
saying that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
I don't know if you could play it on twitch.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Twitch might have to twitch.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Twitch does allow nudity.
As long as it is part of thegame, all right.
Well then, you can play it ontwitch guys.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
We got a fucking killer idea, right that's why.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
That's why balder's gate was game of the year you
had so many general options.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Yeah, there you go, oh oh, that's so great.
All right.
Which one of you wants to gofirst in telling us where to
find you?
Speaker 1 (46:06):
I'll go.
You can find me at adam rightfitness um on all platforms.
And then also come check out mynew podcast for six episodes in
uh, it's called showing up.
Anyway, you can find it onyoutube and spotify and apple
podcasts okay, well, you canalso play everybody and uh and
also on facebook, okay no onecares about you.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Also, adam, every everybody.
Uh, four days after thispodcast comes out, it is Adam's
birthday, so make sure you goover to Adam's account and wish
him a happy birthday.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Yay, I'll also be streaming on Twitch on my
birthday.
Thank you, I'll be streaming onTwitch.
My Twitch is yeah, it's, it'sit's ultimate underscore hero H
three R O.
That's my Twitch, if you guyswant to follow me on Twitch.
Speaker 5 (46:49):
I'll give you a sometimes Thanks, man twitch.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
Oh, I'll give you sometimes thanks, man, sometimes
sorry in advance, for sometimesI show my, my booty just in
shorts, not bare, don't worryadam, at some point you need to
come play with me and johnbecause, yes, last, yeah, I'm
very bad.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
That's what makes it better exactly oh, and lean can
come too.
Speaker 5 (47:10):
Oh, um, yeah, you can find me, I don't know, I guess,
and everywhere it's just obeseto beast.
Um, yeah, pretty much anysocial media.
I mainly use youtube and Iguess it's instagram, not reels,
but that's all instagram isanymore, but um, those are the
two main ones.
I'm also on threads or whatever, but yeah, mainly YouTube,
(47:32):
instagram, obese beast no onecares about me, so that was a
great podcast all right, and gocheck out our new game.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Oops, all genitals coming out as soon as we can
fucking make it and get your andget your energy drink.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Oops, all the animals naked and, you're afraid,
coming out in moderation, thissummer.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Listen, the ideas we come up with are fucking gold.
If we can get somebody toinvest in, we need to go to
Shark Tank Guys, sharks, heckyeah.
We're here seeking $100,000 forour beautiful game.
Speaker 5 (48:03):
And then you just pull your pants down.
Wow, let me see Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Look at that, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
That's very cool Okay yeah, wait, let me go closer in
on the actual play button.
Okay, so it's like it's out,it's an outie.
Yeah, okay, interesting, we'vegot innies.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, we have innies.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Welcome to In Moderation where me and Mike are
hating on these other threebecause they've all got fancy
play buttons on their wallsdoesn't matter what the size of
your button is.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
It depends on what you do with it I thought you
were gonna say it depends ifit's an indie or an audi,
because john's got an audi, myadam and I have innies, but you
know, it's all beautiful intheir own way it's exactly
welcome to in moderation whenyou have one, the show where we
give you a moderate dose of info, sarc, sarcasm, and we already
know we're not YouTube approved.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
You already know me as the host of In Moderation
Today we bring you Mike, whocomes on In Moderation.
I don't think this is InModeration anymore.
I think I'm binging myappearances of In Moderation.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Now I'm standing in front of the I guess we'll fire
you for the next couple ofmonths.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I'm standing in front of the refrigerator at three in
the morning in my underwearwith a bag of shredded cheese,
eating it in a half stupor rightnow.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Sounds like a good time to me.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It's like Adam Lambert and Queen, except Mike
needs to play in as Adam Lambert.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
And the voice you just heard was Adam Wright,
whose first appearance was abouta year ago, actually.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Wow, time flies.
Was I on before you.
No, are you actually wow?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
time flies.
Was I on before you?
No, I'm kidding, I was on inapril.
I was a hot commodity last yearI don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It was definitely before I was.
I think I was pretty early on.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I feel like I was like, yeah, it was pretty early.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
All I know is I was going through the uh, the clips
of um us doing balder's gatethree together, which that
happened just after you came onthe podcast, because I don't
know if you saw in the Discord Iwas reminiscing about how we
became like more than mutuals byyou coming on the podcast, and
(01:56):
then we were talking about howyou were, you know, calling
people out I use some quotesabout not talking about gaza and
I was like, well then, you wantto come to a charity stream
with us?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
That was back when we talked about shit that mattered
, like trauma and healing it,and now it's just fucking
bullshit.
We just sit around, nothing.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
You can't talk about the real stuff anymore, because
every time you do it getssuppressed at least for me
anyway, it's.
I have to call people out andthen, like, shoehorn a message
into it because it's the onlything that works anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Old man yells at you, it's just isn't that just kind
of?
How people work, though, likeI'm telling, like for me, when I
, when I scroll through thealgorithm, the only time like a
good message gets through iswhen they're calling out a bad
message and then giving a goodmessage.
If you just sit there like, hey, let me help, gone, fuck it, it
doesn't even matter what yousay after that, I built my
platform on that, like how dareyou?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
that's what that's not in right now.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I'm sorry, mike, but it's, it's not.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It's right now, it's fucking dead you need to have
someone else saying and you gothat's the only way it fucking
works yeah
Speaker 1 (03:06):
you're so right.
I I made a.
What did I make?
A video, um, I think two weeksago, about like my you know kind
of a controversial video, youknow, about me in my service
uniform when I was in the army,yeah, and like how you know, I
did that.
I got like a quarter of amillion views.
I'm like, oh my god.
Finally, a video of mine poppedoff and then, like two days ago
, I made a video about howpeople can be you know how your
experience with hunger might betraumatic, because past
(03:28):
experiences Less than a thousandviews.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I'm like what's going on, man?
It's politics super hot rightnow, so like you just start with
politics and then just leadinto that, you don't even need
to say anything, Just like heypolitics.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Just show a picture of Trump, show a picture of
trump, I show a picture of trumpand then, anyway, I would just,
I would just yell politics atpeople like politics also, and
like I'm just promise you, thatthat probably would work.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Actually it would do it better right after the uh the
election.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
I posted a video where I just stared at the
camera for one minute,completely silent.
I didn't put a caption, not aword, nothing.
And that got plenty ofinteraction.
Just make a video where you sayLuigi.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
That worked for you on threads, didn't it?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
That's what I'm saying, for those that don't
know, I spent about a month anda half just tweeting.
I figured I think this thing'sgoing off keywords.
It's not using context oranything and my regular threads
weren't going off, so I justdecided to whatever thread.
Luigi Mangione, nothing else,not another word 10,000 likes.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
So I did it again.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
He cracked the code I ended up doing it like 400
times.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
In a row Unbroken.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I sent you the video.
What did you get?
What did you get for doing that?
Speaker 5 (04:47):
like 25 000 followers on threads, also the threads
bonus was happening at the time,they were paying me for it,
right?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
oh nice, yeah, that's wild I mean, that's what I'm
saying here.
The quiet kid in the corner,you've seen him on a couple
times recently.
Oh oh, beast to Beast, oh yes,hello.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yes, please say hi, did we not fully introduce
everyone?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Don't be shy.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, sorry, john, we got off on a tangent and forgot
you were here.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
It's fine, I'm just here to be moral support really,
and drink Kool-Aid.
It's actually.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Crystal Light.
Does it have Red 40 in it?
Speaker 5 (05:25):
That's well.
Actually it's a new, new oneit's red 41.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
You want to know about it.
You got the advanced release ofred 41.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
That's the beta it has even more red and even more
yes, all your favorite are redand 1% more.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Big pharma is trying to do sponsorships right now the
only way I would be okay withlike going into like a
supplement company is if youlean into the chemicals things
like somebody.
Somebody said like they wanted.
I was like I want to name itall the chemicals.
And somebody was like whatabout, oops, all chemicals.
And I'm like I, I want that.
So I've never wanted anythingas bad, as I want that to be my
(06:02):
supplement brand start.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Start your own energy drink.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
In moderation presents oops all chemicals.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
It's just like, yeah, red 40 and aspartame and all
that shit.
It's just like it's front andcenter on the packaging.
We don't go, oh, it's free fromthem.
We're like, no, these are likeour fucking ingredients in big
bold letters.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
And then I'd be okay with like energy drinks and all
that shit big bold letters andthen I'd be okay with, like
energy drinks and all that shit.
We had a whole list ofpreservatives.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Even though there's nothing that can spoil in it,
just throw them in there anyway,fuck it there you go trisodium
phosphate, that's just, we don'tneed that but that bitch is in
there but that genuinely issorry to actually bring up
something that's interesting,that's something but is this is
something that's interestingbecause, like, I think that
that's super funny and I wouldbe super down for that.
(06:49):
But the fact is that most peoplethat would even really be
interested in supplements alsoare like in their okay, this,
okay, this is just a thoughtthat came to my head, but
they're in their head.
They are oh, I don't want anychemicals.
And when they say there's nochemicals, that that's always
better, but they'll also be OKwith those chemicals if there's
(07:10):
protein in it.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
You know, if there's like, if it's a protein bar, and
then it's like, oh well, thechemicals, it has to be there,
you know there's a large enoughgym community like I got tagged
in a video where there's like aguy that's like, I drink energy
drinks because they're unhealthy, that's why, like, I drink them
because they have chemicals,not in spite of them.
Like that's why I picked themout and I think there's enough
(07:32):
people cheers to that and likeour followers are like those
people and there's a lot ofthose people at least, right.
So I feel like we have a largeenough group of people that are
like, yes, yes, give me thatshit that we could just throw
everything out there.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
It would be so funny because there would be those
influencers who would try and inquotations, influencers who
would try and call it out likethis is so unhealthy for you,
and that would actually be evenbetter, because they're like
yeah, it's, oops, all chemicals,absolutely yes, we're getting
free fucking publicity.
Free publicity.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
People are like yes chemicals, give them in my mouth
.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Nah, I put those chemicals into my body, which is
chemicals, it's all chemicalsand just fucking lean into it.
Stop shying away from this,like oh, it's aspartame,
freonium, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Like no, it's got that shit.
That's why you want it.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
You know what I think of often when I hear the health
and I guess we are healthinfluencers and health is
obviously incredibly importantand something we want to
prioritize.
But I remember an old interviewfrom Ricky Gervais, who he was
doing an interview and they weretalking.
I can't remember who wasinterviewing him, but he was
asking, like Ricky was justbasically talking about like why
(08:41):
do I want to live like thisperfectly healthy life?
Why do I want to extend my lifeinto like my 90s?
Or like, oh, if I eat healthyand I do all this stuff, I'll
live an extra 10 years.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Those are the worst years of your life.
Why do I want to live when I'm?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
80 or 90 years old.
Why am?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I extending the worst part of my life.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Right, you're like, it's not like you're extending
your 30s, you're extending.
You're like 90 years old,living to 100.
I'm incontinent, I mean, I'mnot independent, I can't, I
don't want to live that long.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
That's I'm like.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You know I'm like it is, and you know, it just really
kind of makes me think, becauseI'm like it is important to
live, um, live your life, butyou also have to.
Or it's like, live healthy, butyou also have to live your life
.
You know what I mean.
And if you never enjoy thingsall for the sake of living
longer, you haven't really livedat all.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah right, yeah no, there's also the aspect of like
living healthier into thoseyears, because a lot of the
times the reason they're unableto do things at those age at the
70s, 80s, 90s is because theydidn't eat well enough, didn't
exercise, blah, blah right.
So, like you want to do that,so you're healthier.
But, there's a tipping point.
There's a tipping point whereyou reach 88 and it doesn't
(09:48):
fucking matter anymore andyou're like, damn, I can't do
shit yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Just like sit here.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
So I get it.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean definitely thereare there, I'm sorry.
Go ahead, joe.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
I was just going to to say, like something that I've
talked a lot about on thedifferent pages or whatever that
I've had, like is that?
For, obviously, I talk a lotabout weight loss cause that's
where I come from and stuff andI always tell people that, like
losing weight should be, in myopinion, about improving the
quality of your life, right, andlike there are many things that
you might have to start takingaway to to make that happen, but
the goal should be, you know,in moderation, right, like
happen, but the goal should be,you know, in moderation, right,
like um, it should be about likehaving certain things, like
you're able to put certainthings back in, right, and then
(10:31):
it's like what you were,whatever we were all kind of
talking about.
It's like when, when you startto live your life all in it,
everything is about optimizingevery single little thing out of
it's like okay, are you livinganymore?
Are you existing?
Because that feels like justexisting, and it reminds me of
how I felt when I was at myheaviest and skipping out on so
(10:51):
many things in my life that Iwanted to do, because I couldn't
do those things because of thesize that I was.
Therefore, I was existing right.
It's just interesting how it'slike it's a circle man, it's all
kind of comes back around.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I remember when I was at my leanest, you know, I was
doing this bodybuilding programand I was really trying to like
shred, you know, like get likethis ideal physique that most
gym influencers are trying toget after and it was the fittest
I've ever been in my life.
But I was taking my meal prepsto Disneyland, to the county
fair, like I was missing out onso many like opportunities to
(11:22):
enjoy fitness my life, all forthe sake of that physique.
And listen, if that's a once ina while thing, like that's fine
, but I wasn't doing it for anypurpose other than to look good
and I and that's not a life thatI now want to live I don't look
back and go, wow, you know, I'mreally happy that I, that I
meal prepped at disneyland.
You know what I?
mean like it's just not worth itto me hear me out there's,
(11:43):
there's, there's this space.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
There's this space between brian johnson, which is
the guy that's trying to live tolike 500, and injecting his
son's blood into him to do liketo eke out everything possible.
You didn't know.
Yeah, no, he's got his son'sblood in him and like he's doing
all sorts of just just look,it's, it's very interesting.
But yeah, I, it's like ascience experiment.
How long can you live if you doliterally everything?
(12:06):
His morning routine is sixhours long to just do everything
from the UV therapy, all thatsort of stuff.
I don't know.
Uv, what's it?
Red light therapy, red lighttherapy, wow.
And then there's a spacebetween that and then the rock
star who takes every drug, putsit in one needle and goes fuck
it, let's see what happens.
You know what I'm saying.
And you have to find that kindof space in between where you
(12:27):
have to live a little.
But if you're just living tolive, that's fucking.
What are you?
What are you going to look backon like that's all the time you
spent trying to live longer?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
all that lovely time under that red light therapy
thinking your thoughts yeah I Ihave light is made out of red.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
That's just performative for content.
But I mean, there are peopleout there speaking of
performative for content, johnuh.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
First off, john, do you have?
Are you a coach as well?
Speaker 5 (12:52):
wait.
Why did you put me right afterthat?
Those two things are not goingto performative, john, let's
talk about you that's importantto the question is this some
sort of uh, no, it's a catch,yeah, I just, I really think
obese to base is reallyperformative for content.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I know it's so to coaches here.
Have you ever gotten a clientcome to you and been like and
shown you a picture of like abodybuilder at peak week and
said like this is what I want toaim for, this is kind of what I
want to go for and it's youhave to explain to them.
No, this is literallyperformative for content.
(13:26):
This is literally performativefor content Like this person
looks like this because they'retaking a bunch of pictures
around the time.
They're at their most lean,they're posting it throughout
the year.
This is not what they look like, and even right after this
picture, they're not flexinganymore, they're not in good
lighting, they're not tanned upand all that.
It's like.
These bodies are literallyperformative for content.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Like obesity, yeah no , that's a good point.
No, it's one of those thingsthat I will say like for me, I
haven't had any of my clientsthat I've worked with that have
kind of had those expectations,but it is.
It's a bigger conversation whenit comes to like social media
and this stuff.
Like I posted it's actuallyfunny that you bring that up
because I posted a a real,because I probably should post
(14:11):
on TikTok more, but I alwaysforget but posted a real um
talking about like you know, abody that looks like this can
also look like this, and it waswithin the same day.
It was me like showing my looseskin and then me at the gym
with the pump and it's like justtrying to show people, even the
people that you look to, asinspirations.
If you're someone that has lostweight, that has loose skin that
is not super happy about it,even those people and I put
(14:32):
myself in that same categorythere can be some performative
stuff that happens.
It's just that just is what itis right and it's like, even if
you are trying to follow peoplethat you feel are not extreme
and not over the top is a levelof I mean honestly, there is a
level of performing any.
I think anyone is kind ofperforming to an extent right
(14:53):
like like I wouldn't be sittinghere talking to nobody if it
wasn't for a podcast.
You know what I mean.
So it's like you know, there'slike a level of it a little bit
with everyone.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I feel like there's content, it's content creation,
I mean there is that, it's.
It's.
It's not authentic by design,like it can't be.
You know.
There's like I remember, youknow, when I used to make this
is a far, a long time agoactually the thing that reminded
me of what somebody commentedon a video probably made like
four or five years ago, but itwas me doing like some positive
gym motivation, uh, slogans, youknow, like just some positive
(15:23):
things, and there's clips overme doing an exercise and I
remember doing one rep of thoseexercise each to get the clip.
It's like it's, guys, it's justfor content, you know, and so
many people, it's so easy tolook so strong, like you're
working so hard.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
You do two reps of that exercise for the, for the,
for the montage, you know so,yeah, it's all, it is my muscle
definition, just by goingturning off the ring light and
turning on the overhead lightyeah that will make my if I flex
my bicep will pop so much morewith the overhead light.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Yeah.
That's exactly why I have thelighting the way that I do.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Wait, let me turn my lighting on.
I'm conscious of my posture,because the light hits my traps
differently if I hunch.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
So you have to have good posture, Ah look at that.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Look, there's a little bit of a gap there.
Maybe I am building muscledefinition, who knows?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, it just comes with the territory, and I think
it's so important.
I really like creators who areauthentic about themselves, and
I think you can tell so muchmore about a person by their
principles and their values andwhat they preach rather than
what they look like.
And I feel sorry for people whoare looking to start a journey
like this, because oftentimesthat's what they are doing is
(16:33):
they're looking for the mostjacked dude or chick, because
that's what they want to looklike and because that's body
goals.
That's who they sign up with.
And I'm like guys, this personis green as baby shit.
They don't know what they'redoing, know like they're,
they're brand new coach.
Like you go into a gym, thebiggest coaches or the you know
like the most strong, likebiggest, uh, you know physique
(16:54):
wise coaches oftentimes have themost, uh, the most clients,
even though they might not haveexperience, um, so it's just.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
It's just a real, it's a real shame, um scrolling
through instagram is basicallylike scrolling through or going
through like a haircut thing.
It's like oh, which one do Iwant right?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
yeah, that's their resume.
You know, and I talked aboutthis.
Can I talk?
Can I?
Can I plug my own podcast, isthat?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
is that before?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
no, he's gonna bleep it out, we're just gonna cut
this whole on my unnamed podcaston my brand new podcast um,
it's called showing up anyway,but I talked about you know how?
Um, how there's a saying inthis industry that your, your
body is your business card, andI absolutely hate that saying
because some of the mostexperienced coaches and and
(17:41):
incredibly empathetic andunderstanding.
And?
Um, the coaches that get themost results with their clients
are not the most jacked ones.
They're the ones who understandhuman psychology and the ones
that understand that you have tobe flexible and that life
happens.
And?
Um, they're not out thereputting their body on social
(18:02):
media all the time becausethat's not the most important
thing.
Um, definitely not in a coach.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
The number one researcher in the field.
Um, most people think it's bradschoenfeld because he's very
present on social media.
It's is stewart phillips, andif you go look at his picture
stewart phillips he just lookslike a regular guy.
He's got a little bit of apunch, but he is so
knowledgeable about anythingexercise science.
(18:29):
So what I've been?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
finding interesting is like lately on instagram I've
seen, uh, both on account.
On the male side, it's kind ofshowing what you were talking
about with the lighting, like oh, look at lighting over top.
And then this is me and don'tjudge yourself.
Blah, blah, blah.
And then I'll see.
On the.
The women's side, it's morelike people say I'm a natural
beauty, but my hair is fake, myeyelashes, my eyelashes are fake
, my nails are fake, this isfake lip filler, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah.
(18:50):
And I find it interesting andlike the comments you'll get
people saying on one side,people are like happy, like
thank you for being, um, youknow, honest, and everything.
And other ones are like whydon't you just then not do any
of that?
And I find that kind of aninteresting topic because it's
like, well, I want to look acertain way, right, like I do
these things, I add these thingsbecause I want to look this
specific way.
(19:11):
Why do I want to look that way?
Is that because of societalpressures?
Maybe, but like it does make mehappier to do this and to look
this way, but it does take a lotof work and I don't know.
Like there I kind of feel likethere's also a balance Like how
much work do you want to put infor how well you want to look
and how much happiness is thatgoing to bring, versus how much
work you have to put in to getto that thing?
Speaker 5 (19:30):
yeah, it kind of like .
It reminds me of like.
When people make that argumentit's like whoa well I?
I understand that you don'tlove society, but I have noticed
that you live in a society, sowhat about that?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
it's just like that's not an answer, man.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Like we all yes, we all live in a society and you
can point out things that youdon't like while still obviously
having to participate in that.
Like I don't I don't lovelandlords, but guess what I rent
?
Like what am I gonna do live?
live on the street likeeverything about society,
everybody go like and so I, I Ithink it's one of those things
where it's and I'm sure I meanI'm I'm sure most people can
(20:07):
kind of understand this but it'slike people that leave comments
like that they're just tryingto be contrarian, right, and
just be like, oh you're well,you say you don't like this, and
well, and it's just like, comeon, like let's actually engage
with the, the point that'strying to be made, and if you
disagree, that's fine.
But like bring something to thetable more than just like well,
have you thought about thisthing?
(20:29):
And it's just like you're notgiving any sort of answer here.
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Yeah, on the topic of bodies being business cards as
well, and I think this is afactor that we I don't think
we've touched on this, unlessI'm forgetting Everybody that
you look up to, anyone thatlooks a little bit too big to be
true.
They're taking something tolook like that.
Anybody that claims to benatural, and all they do is harp
(20:54):
on that all day, every day.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
they're not natural and that has to do with and
that's and that's all genders,that's not just men you know
that's true, that's absolutely.
That's absolutely like I I'vehad uh, I had a coach who worked
for me who is not natural andshe was had an incredible
physique but was not natural.
But you wouldn't know itbecause you know, like it just
depends on the dose as well, andit's not a big deal.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
No, if you want to do that, do it, but I think it's
important.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, totally Don't do it.
Just don't lie about it.
Just don't lie about it.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, just don't lie about it, like I don't have a
problem with the people that arealready doing it.
My problem is when they'reselling fitness programs and not
telling you that that's howthey got fit.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
It's like it doesn't feel quite honest to me.
Well, I mean, it's not, and thebiggest part about that is,
like, obviously for theindividual it's a problem, but I
think for society, but like,for the overall problem is that
it skews perception.
Right, public perception isskewed and like I was I.
I I was on a TikTok the otherday and it was like some someone
(21:58):
was talking about how, like,people's perception is skewed on
what is like buff and what'snot right, and like this guy,
one of his coworkers was talkingto him and he was like, yeah,
you know, I I want to startlifting and um, but I don't want
to get too big.
So, like, in a few years I'dlove to to look like Chris
Bumstead.
And the dude was like, wow, youare talking about literally Mr
(22:19):
Olympia, that is, there is no.
There's really no more jackedthan that Like.
And it's just like becausepeople maybe see him next to
like the monster, humongous,freak bodybuilders, right.
But like if you saw him in reallife, every single person that
walked by would take a secondlook and be like holy crap,
(22:40):
right.
If you went to your gym,everyone would be like that guy
is by far the most jacked dudein the gym, that that comes here
just at all like he should bekicked out, and it's he's he's
being really great, I feel yeah,and I honestly, I can
understand, because that'sprobably what people think about
me when I go to the gym.
(23:00):
but that's besides the point.
We don't have to keep talkingabout that.
But like, but like.
But seriously, it is one ofthose things where it does.
It skews people's's perception,and the same thing, I think the
same thing, can be said aboutweight loss as well, because on
social media, what is rewardedand pushed is extremes, right.
(23:21):
So if someone loses an extremeamount of weight relatively
quickly, that usually garners alot of attention, and then
people start to think, oh, thatis just, that's normal and
that's what I'm supposed to bedoing, yes, and then I'm getting
off topic a little bit, butthis is something I think about
a lot.
With social media.
It is, in my opinion, it can beso dangerous, because a lot of
times people pick up on that,the people that are losing the
(23:42):
weight, and they're just like Iam going to do the most unhinged
, unhealthy.
I am going to do the mostunhinged, unhealthy, insane
stuff to lose weight as fast aspossible.
And the goal this is my opinion, I just want to put that out
there, but I feel a lot of timesthe goal is not I need to get
healthier.
Maybe that was the start right,but the goal ends up not being
(24:04):
I need to get healthier.
It almost doesn't even be Ineed to lose weight, it's I want
to grow on social media andthis is the best way for me to
do that.
And I've noticed it to a pointwhere it's just like I don't
know how it's.
It's one of those things that Ihaven't really talked about it
in a post because I feel likepeople are like you're just
jealous, right Cause I've been.
I don't mean to c across thatway, it's just something that I
(24:39):
have noticed over the past years.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
I'm sorry I really kind of took the topic to
another point, but no, I I likeit first off, if had hit on I
wasn't trying on social mediaback when I was losing my weight
, but if I was and like I had aviral video and then you know I
had a following like I do nowguaranteed I would have used
that as as extra fuel againstmyself.
(25:01):
I lost weight in some of themost horrendous ways and I can
only imagine that would havestoked something really ugly in
me if I had lost all my weightby the time I started talking
about it.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Yeah, For the most part me too.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
There was a viral video where a woman said uh, it
wasn't until I prioritizedgaining health over losing
weight that things changed, andI think that was like a great
way to put it, because if youfocus on that often, you you
know weight loss does happen onits own.
Does it happen as fast?
No, which is the fuckingproblem?
Speaker 3 (25:31):
right, you can go on the keto diet, lose 10 pounds in
a week and you're like fuck,yeah, look at this, I'm doing
great what I hate is you said um, social media is glamorizing
all this stuff, but media ingeneral, yeah, yeah, you see it
like movies, movie stars arehaving to be more and more
jacked looking on screen.
Some of you guys play marvelrivals.
(25:53):
One thing I absolutely hateabout marvel rivals is I went in
and I looked at the charactermodels and I was like, oh my god
, they put everybody on steroids.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, but okay, listen, listen to be fair on
that one.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
They're super rob's just bad at the game.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I give a little bit of leeway when they're goddamn
superheroes they're literally inthe name is superhero, like
they are beyond what humans are.
So I'm like listen.
I guess.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, but the superheroes thing came from like
mutations, not steroids, andthat's what got them jacked as
fuck.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I mean it's not, it's mutated, it's green goo that
made him all jacked.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Okay, but imagine if they did add Lou Ferrigno as the
Everybody else is normal, buthe's
Speaker 2 (26:34):
there.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
It's not even cartoonized, it's literally just
a green screen video.
They'll probably hear this andat least have his skin for like
one season or something.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
That would be awesome .
Okay, here's my thing when theytake like Luke Skywalker if you
haven't.
My thing when they take likeLuke Skywalker if you haven't
seen.
Like Luke Skywalker originallywas like you know, look normal.
And then, like the 90s, early2000s came and it was like
jacked as fuck Luke Skywalker.
It looked like he was on, justyou know, the kitchen sink and
that I'm like okay, that'sstupid, like you just took a
(27:10):
character who is already givinghim strength.
No, it's him in the movie.
You see him.
He's not maybe scrawny, hemight not be the right word, but
he's normal, looking right, andthen they make him look jack
where it's like superhero,they're fucking.
They've got all the the stuffand the mutations to make them
that way.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
That's my thought process on that you know, like I
don't mind it when it's sorry,go ahead.
I was just gonna.
I was just gonna tie it back towhat we were kind of talking
about a little earlier.
We were talking about socialmedia and glamorizing weight
loss and stuff like that, and Ijust saw a video that was
talking about Mr Beast and achallenge that he did with a
friend of his to lose 100 pounds, and basically it's insane how
(27:41):
things come full circle, becausethat literally is just the
biggest loser.
It just absolutely was thebiggest loser on a youtube
episode, um yeah, and and hejust put him in a room right for
for 24 hours a day.
For what?
A month or?
Speaker 4 (27:58):
it was until he lost 100.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
It was until he lost the faster you do it the faster
you're done.
So obviously you just eatnothing and you just yeah, and
he was exercising like eighthours a day.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
And I'm like what are we doing here, man?
Like what are we glamorizingthis?
For what are we promoting?
This is not health.
It's not health and it's notsustainable.
It's not realistic.
It's just for views.
There is nothing that is goingto translate into just not
motivating anybody.
It might for a few days a week,and then they realize I can't
(28:32):
exercise eight hours a day.
Uh, I don't have access to.
You know, a trainer, a um, achef, like all these things that
I'm sure he had in the, in the,in the video, and it's just.
It just pisses me off.
I see that coming.
All you know, we worked so hardto put biggest loser behind us
and here it comes again in theform of mr beast I hate, mr
(28:53):
beast sure Sure you do, you can.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
You can say whatever you want.
It's your podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
The guy.
I know everybody loves hisvideos, but he has glamorized
abusing people.
That's what his videos are.
He just abuses people.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
And then pays them.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
We just lost a few days.
I think it's a mixed bag.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I think we just lost and then it's a mixed bag.
I think he definitely does somegood.
He definitely does some good.
You can argue that the badoutweighs the good and I can
definitely see that argument,but he definitely does.
At least you know.
Like are his videos?
like the videos where he's likeI restore he does some good, as
long as he profits from it well,well, yeah, but like I'm not
good, listen, I don't give afuck if someone profits from
something, it's what they'redoing.
And it's like, hey, I gave1,000 people their eyesight back
(29:37):
and like, I get it, that's forviews, and I get the arguments
against it, but at least he'sgetting views doing that, as
opposed to like, hey, I madethis person starve themselves
until they almost died.
I don't like that as much.
I prefer the ones where they'relike I gave water to people in
(29:58):
africa and it's like, yes,you're like, okay, cool, I get.
I get the argument against it.
Like you're just, you're justexploiting people for views, and
I, I get that, but at leastthere he's doing some good with
it.
It's better than doing nothing,in my opinion.
What I will say is yes, we putbiggest loser behind us, so
instead we should focus on othertv, like reality tv shows, like
naked and afraid.
That's obviously better.
But when I try and reenact thatin my neighborhood, people call
the police and it's a fuckingproblem.
(30:20):
That's that.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
That's my main issue with this yeah, you got to do on
youtube.
That's what it is, liam, if youI mean I tried to do an episode
of the blurry part or no?
Speaker 2 (30:29):
do I need the?
Speaker 4 (30:29):
blurry part or no, just blur your, not, just blur
your face.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
It's only you.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Americans that do the blurry thing, nothing else.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Don't blur anything else.
The rest of the world we don'tcare about blurry, I will blur
everything but the genitals,everything else is blurred, I do
the reverse I do
Speaker 1 (30:43):
a reverse, naked and afraid.
But seriously, liam's naked andwe're all afraid.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I'm naked and you're afraid is the name of the show.
It's actually so amazing that,like a lot of shows that have
nudity and stuff, if you watchit in Canada or UK, there's no
blurring.
So when you guys watch it andyou talk about blurring, I'm
like what blurring?
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Yeah, I've been seeing cock and balls my whole
life.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Right, you know, in America you, somebody can be
eviscerated and they get a pg-13one nipple by a female, and
that is rated r.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
You're like that makes sense.
Yeah, you know, the greatestpart about this naked and afraid
, but with the reverse blurringwould be that people would start
to find differences betweensets of genitals, to refer to
the like when they're talking totheir friends in the office
about like hey, do you see thatepisode?
Speaker 5 (31:35):
that one's lefty, that one's righty oh shit, I
can't tell what they're doing onthe show.
Apparently they built something?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
it's all blurred.
I have no idea.
All I saw was cock and ballsthey muted their voices too.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
So you just see like a cloud with balls trying to
survive in nature no, how about,like that deep voice, think of
when someone's anonymous, thewhole?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
episode.
I think all the, I think allthe female listeners have left
at this point.
Oh no, sorry listen, they,they've.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
They've been with us this long.
They're laughing at this.
Shit's funny, it's a goldenidea I mean they must like it.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
The majority of our listeners identify as female.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Oh, shit, Women can be naked too.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
That's our stance.
In moderation, women can alsobe naked.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
That sounded like a revelation.
You just had.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Wait a minute, you got me out.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
You got me out this whole time.
You got me out here.
I just confirmed it.
They can be naked.
Fuck the chat GPT.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
I just had the best idea.
Hold on, guys, wait a second.
Shut the episode down aroundone sec.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I need to search something, just I've never seen
it before, but I know they canbe naked I just googled women
naked.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
You guys, you're not gonna believe what I saw.
Oh man, you know it's a realbig topic.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
You know what's health?
Laughing Laughter is fuckingthe best.
That's what they say.
It's the best medicine, man.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Not as good as I don't know I was going to make a
drug deal.
I won't do that.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
You're too innocent.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, not as much as the stuff that rhymes with
Tatooine Halloween, halloween,that's the best medicine.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Halloween is the best medicine.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
You know what, though ?
They take the fucking Reese'sand they put the Reese's pieces
in the Reese's.
It's not as good.
You'd think it'd be better.
It's like extra Reese's, butit's somehow worse.
I don't like it.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
I've never had that before.
I'm not a fan of that.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
No, it's too much, they went too far, they stopped.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I'm not a fan of that .
No, it's too much.
They went too far, they stopped.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
The thing is they're messing with a golden ratio.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, exactly Like they've had scientists like
trying to hack our brains for,like, what's the best tasting
thing?
You've already got it, you'redone.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Wait, which one do you guys think is the best?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
What's the best?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
candy.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Just like Reese's Personally.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
I like, like the pucks I do you guys have.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
No, that's different than the regular reese's no, the
huge ones, the pucks oh, yes,yeah, I had four of them, one, I
don't think okay I was worriedthat they didn't exist in
america can you only get them?
Speaker 3 (34:04):
there's reese's pucks big enough to put a hole in
they're huge, but I like thembecause they are a higher ratio
of the peanut butter tochocolate I like the reese's
eggs.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I think those are.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
The eggs are good.
The eggs.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Did you have the twix eggs?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I did not have twix eggs.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
I love twix.
I did not realize they could beimproved.
They had these twix eggs andit's just like it's a whole
cookie with uh, you know,caramel and everything in there
and it's.
It was just satisfying to biteinto the original twix is like
my favorite candy.
That stuff is satisfying tobite into yep, me too.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
My favorite candy bar is take five, that's my, that's
an interesting one, have youguys?
Speaker 4 (34:43):
have you guys had before?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
that's not usually, I don't understand what that is
underrated take five is prettygood yeah, so I love I love an
salty, sweet combo almond joy Idon't like wait.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Is that the?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
one wait.
Which one's the one that hascoconut mounds I'm enjoying.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
No coke yeah they both have coconut I don't like
that that makes me mad oh, Idon't like that coconut, of
course, right as I have to puton an adult shirt and go on a
business call, we're talkingabout my favorite thing.
Yeah, I, I gotta get out ofhere.
Thank you for having me again.
Be kind to yourself.
All Go away, mike needs to getlost.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Mike, get out of here .
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Thanks for coming on Mike Speaking of, speaking of
performative.
Mike needs to be performative.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Well, alright, fellas , I guess I'll just Walk away
forever, finally gone, finally.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
God damn.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Mr.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
I have clients.
I hate that guy Over here.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
You know you talk about Mr Beast.
You know who I really fuckinghate.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I will say my favorite candy bar, Mr Big.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I've never heard of that in my life.
You're making candy bars.
Up now, no one's had that.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
It's a Canadian candy bar.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
No none of you have had that because it's a Canadian
candy bar, so it'sautomatically not even in the
running.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Probably.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
I want to say I probably sent Liam one.
You probably sent me one, Idon't even remember.
I don't remember what.
I had for breakfast, let alonewhen you sent me a candy bar
months ago.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Was it a Mr Big?
I don't think it was a Mr Bigfor breakfast Interesting I
don't remember what I sent you,Adam?
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Vanilla wafer coated in caramel.
That's okay, because I don'tsend you these.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Crunchy peanuts andie crisps be nude personally oh,
oh, you like the, oh, you likethe regular ones the regular
veggie chips.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
No, I'm just kidding, I don't they're not that bad.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
They're salty man, that's kind of like air they are
yeah it just tastes like saltyair.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, that fills you up for about three and a half
milliseconds, mr big jesus,jesus, in moderation, of course,
okay well, before we finish up,I want to go around with
Something that's pissed us off alot this week and not fucking
in like politics and bombingshit.
That's bringing us down Toomuch.
I don't want to be sad rightnow.
Okay, so I'm going to go.
First, I got tagged in a videowith like a mother who was like
(36:49):
feeding her kids and like it hadlike a brownie and french fries
.
Like on the plate also had likestrawberries and shit and
whatever, but people fuckingdestroyed her.
There's like 3 000 comments ofpeople just like you you
shouldn't have reproduced andshit.
Like that level it's bad.
And I'm just like god damn,like I think it's people who
don't have kids like.
(37:09):
You know what like oakley hadfor breakfast?
Uh, welch's fruit snacks andchocolate milk.
Like that's what she had,that's what she wanted.
I was like, all right, sure,here you go.
Later on she had avocado andlike apples and shit.
Like it's all fine, kids growon.
Damn, anything you gave them.
It's like the way these peopleact.
We should all be dead.
We shouldn't even got to adultslike eating like cheez-its and
(37:30):
all the shit that I definitelydid as a kid, you know, pissed
me off what about you, rob?
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I don't know if anything pissed me off this week
.
I was too busy being sad.
Well, you know what one it's.
The only thing that's reallypissed me off this week is I've
been working on my twitch a lotlately and the amount of big
twitch accounts that are onlybig because of boobs and
(37:57):
actually no, I shouldn't saythey're big because of boobs, I
should say they're big becauseof horny men.
Oh well, yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
I feel like you're talking about my account here.
Definitely talking about John'saccount With my chest okay.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
But there's no community to them.
I go and I research whatthey're doing and stuff and I go
into the channels and thechat's dead.
It's literally like 400, 500people in there just ogling the
person.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah, yeah, sex sells man.
That's been around forever andit will never go away.
Our stupid monkey brains justmake us go towards that like
it's you know, like I don't forme when I say oh yeah, yeah I, I
understand where you're comingfrom, man, I really do.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
But I will just like to try and not to make you feel
better, your own person, you doyour own thing, but like,
understand that those peopleit's not like they would be
coming to your channel anyways,right, and so they're gonna do
their thing and like the way Isee it is, I understand that
there's like this argument liketwitch shouldn't have this and
they shouldn't have that.
But I think, like, as long asit's separated correctly, right,
(39:01):
like all I can hope for is thatit helps the the site grow and
it gets more people.
But I, I understand, especiallyif you, if you do feel like you
are putting in a ton of work, aton of effort into this, and
then you feel like someone elseis garnering so much you know
benefit, when you feel likethey're not putting in that
amount of effort.
I know that it can befrustrating, but my advice would
just be like, focus on what youare doing and and appreciate
(39:25):
the people that you do have,because it is very easy to see
and compare it to other peopleand be like why am I not getting
what, what they're getting,especially when you feel like
you're putting in more work orwhatever it might be.
Uh, but I just, you know,that's my advice that you didn't
ask for at all.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
But I, I just understand where you're coming
from giving me that advice Iwould like to say, now that
you've given me that advice, Iwould like to say I have a lot
of respect for adam but like, ifyou go to watch adam's Twitch,
there's elements of all the sexcells and stuff.
But he's also got a massivecommunity there.
The chat is just popping,people are having fun.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
It's great, thank you .
Yes, I use my body to myadvantage, exactly, especially
your booty and those red shorts.
Booty.
In those red shorts, I I'mgonna say you know, what's
pissed me off this week is um iswhen influencers speak up to
talk about something that'simportant to them and they get
accused of like selling out oroh, dude, that's, oh, that shit
(40:24):
pissed me off when that happenedoh man.
So I'm specifically, I think,talking about uh, scotty, scotty
gay fitness who, who made avideo talking about some of the
you know, ice immigration stuffand that was really important to
him and, um, and yeah, peoplemade videos talking about how
he's a sellout now and I've lostrespect for, for, for scotty,
and he was reading from a scriptand someone paid him to do all
(40:45):
this stuff and I'm like you havegot to be fucking kidding me if
you guys don't know scotty'sscotty's morals and values.
Um, and he's not the kind ofperson who's going to shut the
fuck up about it.
But even doesn't matter, likeit doesn't matter what who it is
or what it was.
If they're speaking aboutsomething so important to them,
it doesn't necessarily mean justbecause you disagree with it
hear me out, though.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I figured it out.
I figured out why they're doingit.
It's a fucking coping mechanismbecause they saw scotty as
someone who believed in theirideology and when, when that was
challenged, they can't just say, oh, he thinks different, it
has to be he was paid for it.
It's a coping mechanism.
100%.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah, yeah.
They like him so much that theythey cannot stand the fact that
he doesn't agree with them.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Exactly, yep, that's all it is.
That's the way of coping.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Yep yep, yeah, I totally agree with you.
So that's what?
For me, it's really hard tocome up with an answer because
I'm just very positive andnothing ever really bothers me
or makes me upset ever um okay,putting jokes aside, what
actually pisses you off?
this is basically all I thinkabout is how stuff pisses me off
, um, but I will say and this is, I'm not sure it's one of those
(41:52):
ones that it's hard to talkabout, because that's part of
what pisses me off, because Ifeel like if you have any sort
of dissenting opinion, peopleassume that you think a certain
way and so, uh, like with thishas been, I guess it's been
pissed me off for a while, butyou know, um, it's the, the
issue.
I don't even want to call itissue, but just the, the fact
that if you are at all criticalor or try and have people think
(42:17):
a little bit more about likeGLP-1 medication, semaglutide,
ozempic, all of that stuff, ifyou have any sort of opinion,
that's not just everyone shouldbe taking.
It's good and it's good foreveryone and it's great and
everyone should like.
If you are at all criticalabout it, people just assume
that, like I've had people likeyou.
You just hate fat people, youjust want people to say fat, and
it's frustrating because itfeels like any conversation that
(42:40):
is not complete.
Yes, this is good and everyoneshould be taking it and there
should be no critical thoughtabout.
It is like shot down, as youare someone that you know
dislikes or whatever, um, andthat's something that's kind of
been annoying me.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I don't know if you guys know I get that because
people don't really like nuanceright, especially on if you're
doing things on short form, likeespecially people want just
like to the point, and when youtry to bring that up, and that's
why a lot of these like comp,these topics I don't talk about
too much because I have a lot ofopinions on them and a lot of
thoughts and I can't justdistill it down to like 30
seconds of like good, bad, youknow, and I, so I I don't like
(43:18):
talk about it too much.
So I like I get it, I feel it.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah, yeah, there can't, there can't possibly be.
I mean, it just kind of comesback to that we're talking about
, you know, um, people damn, Ilost my train of thought but
people automatically assumingyou're either for something or
against something.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
They just can't possibly.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
You can't possibly have two thoughts at once, even
though humans really are complex.
We may have, we may believe twothings at once, but if we talk
about one thing, it doesn'tautomatically mean we hate the
other.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
That's an interesting .
I love and hate that so muchbecause if you use a thing, even
just using a thing, people arelike what's wrong with the other
?
That's an interest I, I, I that.
I.
I love and hate that so muchbecause if you use a thing, even
just using a thing, people likewhat's wrong with the other
thing.
You're like what, what are youtalking about?
I made a, I made a cucumbersalad out of these fucking quart
cups and someone was likewhat's wrong with a bowl?
And I was like, and I literallyjust responded it gives you
(44:09):
cancer and dementia and alsomakes you bad at pickleball.
That was my response becauseI'm like what do you mean?
What's wrong with it?
Just use a fucking bowl likeI'm using yeah, that's um that's
called.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
That's why post hoc, ergo proctor hawk, that's a
superhero also.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yes, it's also superhero, is that it sounds
that is.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
That is it's.
Yeah, it's a logical fallacy.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
If this, then that.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
That happens a lot for sure.
That drives me nuts, if you'refor this.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
You must be against that.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
Exactly All right.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Can't wait for the post hoc, ergo propter hoc skin
in Marvel Rivals.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
I think we'll get that after the boob skin it's
just boobs.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
The reverse, right after the reverse censored, the
reverse censored, it's thecharacter and their genitals.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
There's some game developer listening to us right
now an indie game developer andthey're like this is going to be
a brilliant game.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
If they could do it they would do it.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
No, no, no, the name of it is 100% going to be Oops,
all Genitals for sure.
Oops, boom Boom.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Okay, oops, all Genitals Listen.
If they can make a game Okay,whoever's making?
Speaker 3 (45:12):
that game.
Make sure you tag us and sendit to us and give us keys and
all that.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
If you can make a game where you're just a slice
of bread, which is a game, I'msure you can make an oops all
genitals.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Like all the games out there.
I feel like you'd buy that justout of pure curiosity.
Heck yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
And you generosity, heck yeah.
And you get to customize yourgenitals like I'd like the balls
to be a little bit lower.
Jesus christ, how much hairwould you like on there?
I mean like well trimmed.
But definitely some bro, thatgame would sell, that's all I'm
saying that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
I don't know if you could play it on twitch.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Twitch might have to twitch.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Twitch does allow nudity.
As long as it is part of thegame, all right.
Well then, you can play it ontwitch guys.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
We got a fucking killer idea, right that's why.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
That's why balder's gate was game of the year you
had so many general options.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Yeah, there you go, oh oh, that's so great.
All right.
Which one of you wants to gofirst in telling us where to
find you?
Speaker 1 (46:06):
I'll go.
You can find me at adam rightfitness um on all platforms.
And then also come check out mynew podcast for six episodes in
uh, it's called showing up.
Anyway, you can find it onyoutube and spotify and apple
podcasts okay, well, you canalso play everybody and uh and
also on facebook, okay no onecares about you.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Also, adam, every everybody.
Uh, four days after thispodcast comes out, it is Adam's
birthday, so make sure you goover to Adam's account and wish
him a happy birthday.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Yay, I'll also be streaming on Twitch on my
birthday.
Thank you, I'll be streaming onTwitch.
My Twitch is yeah, it's, it'sit's ultimate underscore hero H
three R O.
That's my Twitch, if you guyswant to follow me on Twitch.
Speaker 5 (46:49):
I'll give you a sometimes Thanks, man twitch.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
Oh, I'll give you sometimes thanks, man, sometimes
sorry in advance, for sometimesI show my, my booty just in
shorts, not bare, don't worryadam, at some point you need to
come play with me and johnbecause, yes, last, yeah, I'm
very bad.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
That's what makes it better exactly oh, and lean can
come too.
Speaker 5 (47:10):
Oh, um, yeah, you can find me, I don't know, I guess,
and everywhere it's just obeseto beast.
Um, yeah, pretty much anysocial media.
I mainly use youtube and Iguess it's instagram, not reels,
but that's all instagram isanymore, but um, those are the
two main ones.
I'm also on threads or whatever, but yeah, mainly YouTube,
(47:32):
instagram, obese beast no onecares about me, so that was a
great podcast all right, and gocheck out our new game.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Oops, all genitals coming out as soon as we can
fucking make it and get your andget your energy drink.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Oops, all the animals naked and, you're afraid,
coming out in moderation, thissummer.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Listen, the ideas we come up with are fucking gold.
If we can get somebody toinvest in, we need to go to
Shark Tank Guys, sharks, heckyeah.
We're here seeking $100,000 forour beautiful game.
Speaker 5 (48:03):
And then you just pull your pants down.
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