Roundtable - Five Shirtless Guys - In Moderation

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to our new podcast.
Five Shirtless Guys, one ofwhich is walking on a treadmill,
Stay fit.
Are we live?
Oh yeah, we're live, Are we?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
recording.
Oh shit, we are recording.
Hey everybody, welcome to thepodcast where I am eating half a
chocolate cake that I reviewedthis morning and we're all
shirtless because that's justkind of how I started and
everybody decided to join in.
It's about camaraderie.
At the end of the day, right,and everybody decided to join in
.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
It's about camaraderie at the end of the
day right?

Speaker 4 (00:29):
Heck yeah, Cheers.
We're raising money for a shirt.
I mean we could probably shiftthe vibe a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh, there we go.
Are you all more of a V-neckperson or just like a standard
T-shirt?

Speaker 4 (00:37):
What do you think?
Definitely prefer the V-necks.
Definitely prefer the V-necks.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Oh, we're getting the village people going here.
I don't have a hat but I dohave my fur.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
Oh, that's beautiful, there we go.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
That's really cool.
I think I have a tricorn hataround here.
My shit just fell off.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
That's fine, I've got one of these guys Nice.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Scott's train conductor's hat.
What You've got?
A fucking Jack Sparrow hat.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Everybody listening to the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I'm sorry, we're just you're, you're gonna have to
just check out the first 10minutes.
Yeah, everyone's gonna be likeI love that one.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Wait.
They talked about what theywore we're going hold on
everybody.
I have this really cool thingto show you.
Look at it, don't?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
don't mention.
Nobody mentioned what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
This is the podcast equivalent of the glowing
suitcase in Pulp Fiction.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
You know what I got to admit?
I've never seen Pulp Fiction.
I've never seen it, I've seenit.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
but I don't really remember it.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Well then, fuck me, never mind.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Mike's out, mike's gone, he just left.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Anyway, I feel like I do this every time.
Welcome to In Moderation, apodcast where we give a dose of
sarcasm.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Uh advice and we already know we're not approved.
He's fucking.
He's got more of the theme downthan we do.
I don't fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Well, he's been on this podcast I don't know 10
times now.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Welcome back, mike why thank you I think everybody
knows you by now.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Introduce people?
Should we, or should we justkeep going say fuck it?

Speaker 1 (02:03):
well, I think jacob at least needs to introduce
himself, since he missed hisfirst 10 minutes on the last
episode yeah, sorry about that.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
So I'm jacob.
I go online by jacob foods.
I make nutrition content.
I try and battle misinformation, help people get healthy, lose
weight, eat more fiber all thatbasically I I'm glad to be here
for real this time.
I actually have storage on myphone so I won't nuke the
podcast.
Knock on wood.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
He's fucking recording everything.
In poor case, he's got no room.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Yeah, we're in 1080p now.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Recording at 10,000 frames to play this in slow
motion.
So he can have the first27-hour in moderation recording.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Perfect but too cheap to spring for the iCloud
subscription that offloads allof us yeah, I'm about to have to
get one out of necessity and toround out this round table,
we've got Avisha here as wellyes, sir, is this my point to a
little introduction?

Speaker 4 (02:57):
all right, that's that it is.
I'm Avisha.
I distilled science on all ofthe various socials and I cast a
pretty wide science net tryingto help people identify signs
that can be applied to theireveryday life, with a pretty
strong focus on health andnutrition, figuring out what not
to do, what things are beingclaimed by the various different
socials, viral videos, and tryto do a deep dive into the

(03:20):
actual medical literature tofigure out is it legit, is it
not?
How can we apply the latestresearch to in some way improve
our own lives?

Speaker 2 (03:26):
I got one.
What's up with the fucking direwolf situation?
Are we bringing those back, oris that not real?
Did the headlines lie to me?

Speaker 4 (03:35):
they say dire wolf, but like it's a small snip,
small amount of genetics beingput in, like it's, we're very
far from bringing the full wolfback so this is a liar?

Speaker 3 (03:44):
wolf?
Is what you're telling me?

Speaker 2 (03:46):
yes, it's a liar wolf , no, but it like exactly
situation where it has likeenough of like the dna or
whatever that you could claimthat it's a dire wolf, like you
could say you had a dire wolfbecause technically there's dire
wolf like genetics in there.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
That you could claim it's a demi dire wolf whatever,
you know, I'm actually 164thdire wolf.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Anyway, I'm mike.
I lost 110 pounds actually it'sbeen awesome.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
I looked at that article everybody just talked at
the same time.
That's how we're gonna do thisperfect.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
No, nobody talk perfect, I think.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
I think avisha might be a little leg yeah, a little
delayed, I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
I'm gonna go with.
Yeah, considering it's been thesame frame for like three
minutes, it's a good frame goodframe yeah, yeah, we're gonna
use that for the podcastthumbnail oh shit, excellent.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Yeah, I keep getting some delays on you guys also
where, like, some of you, willjust freeze up for a while.
I don't know.
Mike and uh rob were frozen fora bit, but I don't know well,
should we let mike tell hislittle story.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
I'll say it again I lost 110 pounds and I help
people do the same thing throughnot bullying, but kindness and
understanding.
We work on mindset.
We work on the root issuesrather than the symptoms,
because far too often in thiscountry we are treating things.
We're treating symptoms ratherthan causes which just allow

(05:04):
them to continue to flourish.
So I focus on mindset things,focus on habits, focus on
routines, lifestyles all thegood stuff that I feel like is
left out of a lot of weight lossconversations.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
And he does so while wearing a giant trucker hat,
shirtless on a treadmill.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
You know how it is.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeehaw, yeehaw.
I'm pretty sure that's whatthey would say down there in
texas probably, probably, Idon't know.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
I don't leave my house.
It's too hot.
Have you ever like been bakingsomething and you open up the
oven and just smash you in theface and like you can physically
feel it hitting you.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
That's what it's like every time I open my front door
in the morning sounds awesome,I'm yeah, no, bp is great I am
going, actually not to texas, to, uh, boston next week.
So like, starting nextwednesday, I'm gonna be going to
check out a few areas.
So you live in the boston area,let me know like what good,
yeah, what shit's around there.

(05:58):
It's kind of a last minutething where we're just like
we're gonna go check out someplaces in rhode island and
boston are you gonna pop in onto Tommy Martin?

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Oh, does Tommy live there?
I didn't even.
He commutes to Boston, he worksin Boston, he lives just
outside of it.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
All right, I'll have to message him or something.
But yeah, like Scotty wentthere, he said it was awesome.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
So I'm like I'm going to go check this place out, I'm
going to go so how do you guysfeel about Dave Asprey putting
stem cells in his penis to tryto?

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Oh my.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
God.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
I saw that I saw this .

Speaker 5 (06:28):
Yeah, that's news to me.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
I want to see what's?

Speaker 2 (06:31):
what's the end goal?

Speaker 4 (06:33):
I feel like I think you could just stop at.
How do you guys feel about DaveAsprey?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
It's like the bulletproof coffee is like too
vanilla.
Now he's he's taken it a stepforward and he's he said in the
interview he's like I've beeninjecting stem cells into my
penis to increase the size.
Not that I need any more size,it's fine the way it was.
He had to make that distinction, but I've increased it by two

(06:58):
inches.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
he says I'm not entirely sure that's how that
works.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Has anybody subscribed to his OnlyF fans to?

Speaker 2 (07:04):
verify this claim you're not totally in on this
like what's he selling from my?

Speaker 3 (07:10):
skeptic's mind like, if you go to his website, like
if, if you use code boner, doyou get half off of his gene
altering thing and you get halfmore well, I don't know, after
trying all those gummies thoseonline ads have sold me,
nothing's worked, so maybe I'llgo.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I'll go with the injectable.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
It must be that he's got a needle fetish, so when he
injects the stem cells, suddenlymagically it grows by two
inches.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Oh, I think you nailed it.
I think you nailed, it.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
He injected his urine or something like that.
So you know, fuck it.
That wasn't crazy enough.
He had to keep going.
I mean from an actualscientific perspective.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
When you inject stem cells like they are there to
provide some potential growth,the problem is you need a growth
stimulus, like nothing.
They don't just magically causegrowth.
That's one of the big problemswith stem cell therapies.
In general.
They're good for wound healingbecause the body's natural wound
healing processes have alreadybeen triggered and sometimes
they can help speed things up.
But you need to provide somelevel of like micro damage for

(08:09):
it to then get recruited to goand cause growth.
So he's got to be combining itwith some sort of I don't know
rack for the penis to to maybeget growth sounds terrible no,
it's not that small.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
He said not that tiny well, compared to a whole human
body.
I'm saying, you know, it's allcompared to what?
Right, so you know, a tinypenis rack.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
I'm sure they sell it a little bit, a little bit more
every day.
Cause that little bit of microtearing a vision.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Would this be kind of similar to?
Like you know, if somebodyneeded a new kidney, like, yeah,
you could just cut them openand put it inside of their
abdomen, but it's like not goingto do anything because it's not
connected to anything.
It's like just sitting there.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
It's sort of analogous.
Of course this is on a morecellular level.
Like the body is pretty good attaking things like stem cells
and platelet rich plasma withlike the various growth factors
and doing some stuff with it.
It's not quite as disconnectedas a full organ, but still just
injecting stem cells randomlywithout anything else to direct
them.
I'll look a lot of stem celltherapies these days use like

(09:07):
scaffolding where if you'retrying to create particular
repair, they'll put like thiswhole operation to give like a
little scaffold for what you'retrying to grow or various things
to direct the signal, to creategrowth.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Otherwise, what is it used for?
Mostly like, just like when yousay like damage or injury, like
what kind of injury, like whatkind of damage, like what are
they using for?

Speaker 4 (09:26):
so I know the most success that I've seen with
regards to like tissue repair isusually when helping to treat
injuries.
When you take stem cells andinject them into an injury site,
then sometimes that can help totreat injury, repair chronic
pain, and sometimes it's almostlike prolotherapy is when you
inject just a saline solutionaround like a joint or
connective tissue and it createslike inflammation in that area

(09:49):
which causes the body to sort ofrestart certain repair
processes.
What do you?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
mean damage though, like a burn or like you know.
It's a scrape Like what?

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Well, actually burns are one of the coolest
applications of stem celltherapy because there are
certain, like stem cell spraysnow that are being used to treat
burns, that can heal thirddegree burns with almost no
scarring, whereas, like 20 yearsago, that would never have been
possible.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
So if it's done right after the burn, before the
scarring process already happens, so, like next to the Narcan,
they have some stem cells likein their little like pocket
wherever the EMTs and shit.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Only it were usable by emts.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
But there's definitely like hospitals that
uh had the ability to do it, sothey can have a fire
extinguisher with the stem cellsin it.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
That's exactly he's.
How hard is it to makethemselves?

Speaker 5 (10:37):
they've asked for.
He popped it onto his stovetopwhere do I get?

Speaker 3 (10:40):
where do I get these asking for a friend and I need
to be quick when they make stemcells.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Because stem cells?
Because I know they used to usefetal tissue or something.
Yeah, these days it's a loteasier.
Yeah, I know, now it's easier.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
You can actually take fat tissue, fat cells and cause
them to regress to become stemcells.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Well, we got a lot of that lying around.
I feel like we could do it.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, let's go donate our fat.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
I really blew it when .
I lost 110 pounds and didn'tfunnel any of it into my cock.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, you could have sold it for stem cell research
there, Mike.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
That's interesting.
I think we're past the point ofworrying about our words.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Bone or marrow.
That's what they call it thesedays.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
You know this podcast really is five shirtless guys
right now.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
You know, okay.
So when they break the feverand they slowly pull it apart,
yeah that.
But for your downstairs, likethat's all we're looking for,
Even the little stem cells aswell.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
I mean, I'm pretty sure 20 years ago I got an ad
for a pump that does that.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
So injecting the cells into your penis is the
equivalent of getting in the carbefore you even know where the
destination you want to go is,and you're just sitting in the
car scrolling your phone.
Pretty much.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
If I had to guess, I really would predict that he is
injecting alongside some sort ofpump device that he has to use
on a daily basis.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Let's make the rest of this podcast just determining
what he's doing exactly for thenext 45 minutes.
Let's really just.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Let's dissect Dave Asprey's penis.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
I've got a theory and I don't hope this happens,
because I don't wish this onanybody, but he wants to live to
be 180.
The more he says that, I think,the higher his chances get of
him dying of something stupidlike an accident.
Oh man.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
At like 67.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
67.
Sepsis from injecting stemcells into your penis.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
There is a big second mover advantage in this space.
Interesting, like I'm all forliving to 180, but it is.
It's one of the big problemsactually in the whole longevity
space.
You know you can't really runclinical trials on humans for
longevity purposes because thosetrials would take forever.
So instead you need to use,like surrogate biomarkers, and
even those are still hotlydebated.
Like what are the surrogatebiomarkers of human aging?

(12:46):
You know, people say telomeres,but lately we've come to
realize that those are just onevery tiny piece of the equation.
Then you've got what they callvarious epigenetic aging tests
and markers, and those havedubious levels of actual
relevance in terms of are theyjust like, is it a symbol, or do
they have any causative impacton the aging process?
Or are they just things that goin concert with a lot of the

(13:09):
aging?

Speaker 2 (13:09):
so they're not really targets for intervention
interesting, so we have a lot ofthings that are like correlated
, but we're like we don't knowif it's causative.
We don't know actually ifthat's what's causing the aging
exactly?

Speaker 4 (13:18):
it's like even something like plaque buildup in
your like or, uh no, tauprotein buildup in the brain
with alzheimer's.
It's like we used to think thatthat was the cause of
alzheimer's, but right, there'sa lot of debate back and forth
is that a sign of it or is thata cause of it?
And a lot of the treatmentsthat were only designed to try
and remove the plaque builduphave not shown very good

(13:39):
efficacy when it comes toactually reducing symptoms oh I,
I didn't know that Interesting.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
So what do we do to avoid Alzheimer's?

Speaker 4 (13:46):
So, within the aging space.
Well, step one don't be bornwith the wrong APOE alleles,
because if you have the two, ifyou have both wrong pairs, it's
like a 32X increased risk ofAlzheimer's.
But there's actually Dr RichardIsaacson runs the Alzheimer's
prevention clinic out of I thinkit's Cornell, maybe it's

(14:07):
Columbia, one of his localuniversities and he's been doing
a lot of work trying to just,in a clinical setting, take
people with the highest riskfactors and do things to
mitigate their chances ofdeveloping it, reverse certain
processes and, surprise,surprise, it's very much about
exercising a lot and eating goodfoods and using your brain, god
damn it.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
I was hoping for injecting things.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Oh yeah, you know, surprise, surprise, I was saying
it ain't so bad, Actually, oneof the best activity to do.
That has been measured invarious ways ping pong.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
I can see that.
I can actually see that.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
The requirement of fast hand-eye coordination
motion.
It's not too taxing on the body.
There is a social element to it.
Like, ping pong, players seemto have a lowered risk of
Alzheimer's as compared to mostother physical activities.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
I feel like they need to start selling that Like ping
pong ball makers need to belike the anti-Alzheimer's hack
or something like that Exactly.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
It feels like that's good that pickleball has gotten
so big.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
I don't know if pickleball is big down there but
I mean that's just a giant gameof ping pong.
Yeah, pretty much.
It's like take ping pong andtennis and give them a little
weird love child.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, it's actually fun as shit.
I love pickleball.
I haven't played in a while,but that's a good.
That's a good sport.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Actually have like.
Some brand sent me custompickleball paddles at some point
.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Well dang, I think it was you americans getting brand
stuff.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
I'm up here like nobody sends stuff to canada
don't worry, I've made my canadaindustry poison they don't send
it once we take listen, once itbecomes part of the united
states, then you'll be just fine, you'll be in the creator
program, you'll get somethingsent to you, but you keep just
pushing back against this wholewe become part of america thing.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
No reason it's almost like we like our health care
you don't need help.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
It's one thing.
It's one thing.
Think about the stuff you'llget.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Think about capital yeah, the first thing, you'll
learn as an american, is to bemore materialistic yes that's
right.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
The first thing you learn as a american is to own a
gun that depends on which state.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
That's the second thing that just comes with every
bible you get oh okay, I got alot to learn.
Yes, but you guys alreadypassed the canadian test.
All you have to do is say you'resorry right, exactly, but you
guys already use like freedomunits and shit, so you're
already like halfway there.
If we, if we took over anyother country, they'd have all
the metrics is now, if you getrid of this and figure out how

(16:27):
ounces work and shit, y'all go.
Y'all know how miles work andstuff, so you'd be fine can I?

Speaker 1 (16:33):
you know what the most annoying american thing is?
Phillips heads, screwdrivers.
Stop fucking using those.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
You goddamn americans there's so much better than
flatheads.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Robertson screws.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Robertson screws are the superior.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
That's not a real thing.
Stupid Canadians and their fakescrews that are superior.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Okay, while Rob fucking rants about screws and
stupid shit, what other sciencebreakthroughs Excuse me for?

Speaker 1 (17:03):
being constructive.
Constructive, my ass.
Go over here with my drill.
You guys talk science.
I'm gonna go be manly.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
I want to know the stuff besides the dire wolf.
I want to know what, what otherlike science breakthroughs are
happening okay, the robertsonscrew actually looks pretty cool
.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
It's just a square yeah, it's a square and it's far
superior than the phillips.
It strips less and it holds inplace on the screw head while
you're drilling.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
So america should take credit for inventing that,
because no one's ever heard ofit and that can do.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Okay, okay do you guys actually want to know why
you guys don't use the robertson?
It's because when robertsoninvented it, henry ford wanted
to buy the patent in order toown it and make all the money
himself.
And Robertson was like, no,this is going to be something
for everybody.
And Henry Ford was like fuckyou, we're using Phillips, and

(17:55):
that's why you guys use Phillips.
That sounds about right.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
I mean, can I share something, one of the more proud
things of being an Americanthat I think might sell you on
this.
But let me, I think I'mactually able to share this and
this will show up.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
This is oh god okay so mike's showing the um amount
of gatorade yeah, mike's showingthe uh, the soda, gatorade,
everything aisle on his.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Well, the listeners on spotify can't see this if
they're watching the video, theymight be able to maybe watching
the video, if not, just type ingatorade aisle on googlecom
legit.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I, when I went to the us and I went to a store, I
looked down the soda aisle and Iwas like, oh, my fucking god,
what is this there?
There's so many colors andthere's like shelves upon
shelves of different flavorsfrom the same brand rfk jew is

(18:51):
trying to take this away from us.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
It's insane imagine if it was just all natural
colors it'd be fine, look awfuljust pale muted have you ever
seen like the the healthyrebrand of gatorade no, no,
there's one of these accountsthat does all these graphics
design.
Let's go and take something andthey do a total rebrand of it.
They make it look like ahealthy product and do a really
good job.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Matt does that, I think from Cheat Dave Designs.
It's really good.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Do people recognize that taking Red 40 out of a
Dorito isn't going to fix ourobesity problem?

Speaker 2 (19:24):
No, they don't.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Like, have we even talked about that at all as a
nation?
Like, does anybody think?
Finally, we've got the Red 40out of my Doritos that are still
3,000 calories back.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, isn't it?
Red 40?
Taking the Red 40 out ofDoritos is going to reduce your
autism rate.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
I don't want my autism rate reduced.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
That's a superpower.
What are you talking about In?

Speaker 1 (19:43):
I don't want my autism rate reduced.
That's a superpower.
What are you talking about, infact?
Oh, there we go.
Mike's changed his hat from thegiant trucker hat to please be
patient, I have autism.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Well, according to RFK, people with autism can't
even pay taxes.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
So, like you know, I'm way ahead of him.
I haven't paid taxes in 10years.
Sorry, autistic.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
I've got the papers.
I got my tricorn hat on.
I'm obviously not a fan oftaxes, it's true.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Just got to conduct the right raids, have a nice
little port of safe harbor.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Okay, our issues are not going to be solved by
switching the Shake Shack fromseed oils to beef tallow.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
It's going to be exactly the same.
No, but we can pretend they areGod damn.
Not with that attitude.
It's doing, Mike, we just aregod damn not with that attitude.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
It's doing nothing, mike.
We just have to try earner.
Believe this the last time.
I don't know if this was evenended up in the final podcast
because of my storage issues,but my biggest problem with all
this is like it is encouragingmore people to eat fast food by
saying that the fast food ishealthier now because of tallow,
and you would think the focuswould be on getting people out
of fast food and away from thesebig food corporations.
But now, now, oh, you know, ifMcDonald's switches to Tallow,
suddenly it's good for you.
Now, everyone go and eatMcDonald's.

(20:47):
Like, what's that all about?

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Meanwhile, the cost of your eggs and produce is
going up.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
To play devil's advocate for a minute.
I would say that if we were infact able to take the fast food
chains and modify what they'redoing to a degree where the fast
food itself would actually behealthy, then that would be a
fantastic thing for health inthis country, Because one of the
main problems is people eitherdon't know how to make food,

(21:14):
don't have time to make food,are too lazy, Like if we could
have chains that give us goodfood at good prices.
The problem is just it's easyto cut corners on everything and
use the cheapest stuff and dothings to maximize.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
So what we need is more Taco Bell is what you're
saying.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
That's the issue is just that people are taking that
idea, which is great and true,and saying that Talo is going to
do that, which is not.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, it's like you approach it with.
He comes on a platform of oh,we want holistic health, root
cause of disease, and thenstarts using a reductionist
approach of it's this oneingredient.
That is the problem.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Right, but he swims in fucking lakes and rivers that
are filled with bacteria.
Are we really like he literallysays why would you take medical
advice from me?
Like he's the head?
It's just.
It's all a fucking parody.
Go watch.
Just idiocracy.
Then you, then it all justmakes sense.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I've been meaning to watch that.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
That's all you need to do is watch that movie, and
all of this makes sense.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
At this point, idiocracy is like an escape from
reality.
Which is it used to be?
Oh, we don't want to devolve toIdiocracy Now.
It's like looking back fondlyat what could have been.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
It all circles back to the electrolyte drinks.
Brondo, brondo, the thirstmutilator bro.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
I brondo's coming out soon.
We're gonna get it soon, don'tworry nowadays it would be
fucking element.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
It's what plants crave hydrogen water, so plants
crave use code asprey's boner toget 10 off of your next element
shipment.
What could we do to make fastfood healthier?
And I'm not just talking aboutmaking everything grilled,
because some of the stuff that'sgrilled is fine, but it always
feels like a compromise.
I don't know if that'scontroversial.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
So here's the thing For me fast food, one of just
the main issues.
I remember Dr Sarah Ballantynemade a video recently showing
how actually it can be fairlynutritious.
I just see it as it's justalways a fucking calorie bomb.
Like when you get somethingfrom a fast food place, it's
like minimum, thousand calories,minimum, like you're, you're

(23:12):
1500, 2000, easy and you're likewell, of course now you're
gonna be in a calorie surpluswith all of this.
So it's just a lot of extra fat, a lot of extra sugar, all
these things it's just like makeit incredibly high in calories
and super tasty.
I think that, like, I feel likethose two are just like the,
the main drivers of it.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
There's actually a very interesting shift now, like
I did a video a couple monthsago about, you know there was
this viral video claiming thatbig food was now trying to hack
ozempic by making foods thatbypass ozic's appetite reduction
and they're trying to make aneven more hyper palatable to
make even people on Ozempicstill get that when you actually

(23:52):
look into what they weretalking about.
What is happening is big foodis realizing that Ozempic is
putting a very hard cap on howmany calories people can consume
and shifting eating behavior tomake them crave protein and
amino acids more, cravevegetables, more essentially
nutrient-dense foods, becausethe body is not consuming enough

(24:14):
calories.
Therefore, it is prioritizingthe things it needs the most,
and what they're trying to donow is create processed foods
that are essentially littleprotein, nutrient bombs that
they're selling in small portionsizes, and that, in and of
itself, is not a bad thing, evenfor people not on the ozempics
of the world, because if youhave tasty snacks that are
actually high in protein andnutrients, yeah, then that could

(24:37):
be a nice option.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, that that does sound like a nice option, I
think if we just made it smallin little ball form, people
would eat it too, just because,like we're getting to the point
where we just kind of want pills.
You know you just take like anice option.
I think if we just made itsmall in little ball form,
people would eat it too, justcause, like we're getting, we're
getting to the point where wejust kind of want pills.
You know you just take like apill and like, oh, I'm good, so
like you just make it a tinylittle thing, like, oh, all
right, just pop this in.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
You know, my biggest people would just complain.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
What the fuck is this ?

Speaker 2 (25:13):
stupid shit on my meat patty.
They just throw it away.
That's what I think.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
I feel like one of the biggest challenges there is
just the supply chain.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Any company, that's ever removed red food dye or any
food dye from their food like.
I think Fruit Loops in theUnited States at one point did a
test run where they usednatural colors and everybody
complained about it.
They said it tastes awful now,but in a blind study no one
could tell the difference.
You know what's funny, though.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
You know, what's funny about that is that they've
also done well.
Some people have also doneblind things, comparing the
American Fruit Loops to CanadianFruit Loops.
Canadian Fruit Loops do use thenatural colors and people
actually like the Canadian FruitLoops better.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
They probably are better again, it's fucking
canada stupid I just can't waittill we annex them on behalf of
one thing about america oh yeah,americans know what purple
tastes like.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
We know what blue tastes blue it tastes like blue,
it tastes red, okay that mightexplain raspberry so I don't
know if you guys have seen itthe new, the new pepsi.
Um, like was it?

Speaker 2 (26:20):
it's a blue one, it's a blue pepsi what the fuck are
you talking about, are you?
Why are you making stuff up?
That's not new.
We've had screwdrivers.
Now it's it's new here anyway.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Okay, you know what, let me.
Let me go grab one.
I've got one in the fridge I'mgonna go grab it

Speaker 3 (26:31):
I just want to say real quick, while Rob goes and
grabs this, none of us areadvocating for food dyes.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
I don't know about you.
I say everyone should get aliter of food dyes delivered to
their house every single morning.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
I get a gallon of red , 40.
Orange, I mean, if you putenough yellow five on your skin.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
It'll turn your skin translucent and let you see
through to your organs.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
What this?

Speaker 1 (26:55):
is Pepsi Electric Zesty Citrus and it is the
bluest soda I have ever seen.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
I'm about to Google this one.
Is it the electric that addsthe blue?

Speaker 1 (27:07):
I guess so, but they went so overboard with the
brilliant blue in here.
That is a little funny itstraight up stains your tongue
blue.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
This must be like oh, it's because methylene blue is
all the rage.
Oh okay, can we dispel?

Speaker 3 (27:24):
this real quick.
The methylene blue, just foranybody who might be on the
fence.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
See.
The thing about dispelling itis that methylene blue is a
compound that has a biologicalimpact.
It has some benefits.
It has some drawbacks.
It has some risks.
It acts as a monoamine oxidaseinhibitor.
It can affect mood.
It can affect focus.
People who take it do in fact,for some of them, feel a

(27:48):
cognitive boost.
They feel sometimes a littleboost in energy.
It is something that does havean effect.
The problem is there are alsosome risks.
Don't take it alongside an SSRI.
Don't take too much.
Don't take like it's somethingthat is very poorly understood
because there's not a largeamount of clinical research
outside of very narrowconditions and it's also
completely unregulated and thedosage is weird, so like it's
very easy to overdo it andmisuse it.

(28:10):
But it is something that has aneffect and it floats in that
gray area where just the generalpublic have to be very careful
right.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
So is it technically an artificial dye, and if rfk
bans it, are people going tostart turning against him?

Speaker 4 (28:24):
it is an artificial dye but it is not used as a food
dye.
It is used in like emergencyroom contexts.
It's actually highly antifungalin certain ways.
Used to treat tooth uh toefungus when combined with red
light.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
A couple other uses anymore I remember using it in
my uh microbiology lab forstaining.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, see, when you said it's used in an emergency
room, I was like, okay, so whenpeople start turning to yellow,
they inject a little bit of bluein them it's like the four
humors.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
You got to balance them yeah, it's well.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
It's used to treat septic shock, I believe that's
pretty important.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
Remember most people taking it are probably not not
having sepsis somebody told me,do not let it touch your skin
because it will stain and notwash out, and I was very scared
of that.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
Now people are putting it on their tongue if it
does touch your skin, does thatvitamin c actually is helpful
for getting it out Really?

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yes, the Methylene Blue man Group.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
The Methylene Blue man.
They just fucking get a wholebag of it and they pop out.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Their music would suck too.
A GOP conference they alwayshave somebody who's never sung.
Once do the anthem.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Oh shit.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
They'd be smacking buckets and stuff all out of key
and can we get that going?
The methylene blue man groupwhatever we want going not not
do anything.
We want the problem, not robbecause he's in canada, but we,
as americans, do whatever wewant let's include.
I think rob can come in time totime won't be a full member.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Well, that that depends on if your borders
actually let me in see, rob.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
The question is how would your beard look when it's
blue?
Then you'd be blue beard.
I think it might look prettysick, honestly.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, I think so there's an idea, there's an idea
, okay, so.
So actually, I'm planning ondoing a, a twitch streamathon
for my birthday coming up, and Iactually have on my board one
of the goals ideas being dye mybeard.
So maybe, if we get enough, getenough goals on this birthday

(30:22):
subathon then I'll be blue beardI like it.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
I think we're giving Dave Asprey some ideas, and I
don't like it.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
I actually have dyed my beard blue before, but I've
never had a beard even close tothat length, did you?
Did you like bleach it first orjust straight up?
Yeah, yeah, you have to.
It's not going to take at allover the existing color.
If you're I mean yours is lightenough.
There would be like a shifting.
You'd get a sort of brightgreenish, right, very dark look.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
But if you want solid blue, you need to bleach it
first right, I'm always worriedabout the bleaching process,
since it's weakens the strandsand stuff yeah it's.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
You can get more sensitive bleaching like
bleaches for sensitive skin,bleaches that damage the hair a
little bit less.
When they have sort of combinedformulas, it's really not too
bad as long as your hair ishealthy welcome to in moderation
we talk about dying yourfucking hairs blue and all sorts
of other colors.
I mean, my hair is actuallyblue right now, or some of it.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
We started on penis stem cells.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
I think we're on our way up.
Honestly, We've covered thewhole body at this point.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
You know what?
Let's take a shift here.
No, no we're missing the feet.
We're missing.
The feet, come on.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
Actually I mentioned how methylene blue can treat
foot fungus oh sorry, there wego there it is mentioned but,

Speaker 5 (31:41):
I want to.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
We're always talking about what's bad, and we've been
talking, and it's important todo that because it's it's so
prevalent.
I think we should also sharethe things that we've seen
lately that are good, like whatare some good pieces of advice
you've seen in a video lately.
Well, mike, you got to start usout then I'll start us off.
there was somebody who had saidit was a you know a little bit
of of a tough love situation, um, but they'd said that I wish I

(32:07):
knew who this was.
They said your excuses are allvalid, but their excuses
nonetheless.
So the things that you'refeeling are true and there's
reasons that you're feeling themand reasons that you're acting
the way that you are or notacting the way that you want to
be, but you deserve a solution.
Outside of that, what can we doto get around these things so

(32:28):
that the excuses aren'tdictating our actions anymore?
And I just thought it was areally good way to release
people of having to hide fromblame or shame that comes with
not accomplishing the things youwant to accomplish, because a
lot of the times, the reasonsthat we're in the situations
we're in it's because our copingmechanism is food or rotting.

(32:49):
So when we feel shame frominaction, it just compounds on
itself and builds more shame andmore inaction.
So I just thought that wasreally useful and a neat piece
of advice or a clarification.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Yeah, I think that's great.
I know for myself that mycoping mechanism like when I get
into a hole where I cannot makemyself be productive, rather
than distract myself with eating, I literally distract myself by
reading more research papersbecause that tickles the part of
the brain that says, oh, I'mbeing productive.

(33:21):
Right now I'm learningtranslating even 10% of the
things that I'm reading towardsactual sharing generation
creation, and it's a bad zone toget stuck in sometimes and I

(33:44):
think everyone has that type ofthing.
Like it's so easy to convinceyourself that something you're
doing is part way towards whatyou want to be doing and is not
inherently bad, but it's notgood.
Like the biggest problem wetypically all face is actually
devoting our time to the thingsthat make the biggest difference
, as opposed to just little bitsalong the way.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
Like shirtless podcasts.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Like shirtless podcasts.
This makes a difference.
Yeah, something's different.
We are normalizing the effectof the requirement for shirts in
the podcasting world.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
The reason that I have a following is because I,
two years ago, almost two yearsago, I took my shirt off at the
boardwalk by the beach, and it'sit's actually how I met you,
Liam, because you had stitchedmy video of me doing this.
And it was the first time thatI'd done that, and it's since
I'd lost my weight.
No-transcript.

(34:58):
The third installment of thatvideo.
I've been doing one every yearnow.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
If anybody out there is nervous to be among the
people because you don't feellike you're allowed to, or
whatever, send them to me.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Mike, how did we meet ?

Speaker 3 (35:16):
I?

Speaker 1 (35:16):
I'm not really sure I I was following well, do you
remember how you met liam butnot me?
Uh, is it because I'm canadian?

Speaker 5 (35:22):
I think that might probably god damn it to think
about canadians here I think wejust mutually followed.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
I was following you and then you followed me back
and I said oh, holy shit, nowI'm in the big leagues.
Now I realize you guys are abunch of fucking assholes we try
to be.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Uh no, here, listen, this is what I this.
This is something that I feellike needs to be more normalized
, and it's because I've beengetting do it going over this
fucking tiffany plate a bunch oftimes.
You've seen this shit wherethis is like this this lady
she's got like cottage cheeseand then she puts mustard on it
and then she dips a bunch ofshit in it, like yeah, it's
weird, like whatever.
But like I think also, whenpeople are like, oh, I gotta be

(35:57):
healthy, fuck man, now I gottalook up these recipes and I
gotta get all the rightingredients and I gotta make it
and then I gotta store thesethings because I gotta meal prep
and all this shit, why not justlike put some shit on a plate
like whole, like just dumb itdown, literally as dumb as it
possibly can be.
Get yourself a plate, findnutritious shit that you like I

(36:19):
don't care what it is.
So there's berries or fuckingpickles or what, who cares,
doesn't matter, like whatever,just have that stuff, put it on
a plate and then have somethinglike pre-made, like dipping
thing that you like I wastalking about in the videos,
like the ballhouse dressings andshit, but like it doesn't
matter.
Just like whatever condimentthat you like to like dip things
in, do that?
If it's fucking cottage cheeseand mustard, you weirdo, that's

(36:41):
fine.
But you know, just havesomething and then just eat.
Like how long did that take you?
You were at your fridge, youhave a plate, boom, you put
stuff on it.
Then you eat it.
Done like it doesn't have to becomplicated with all these like
I I got to make these recipesand chop shit up.
No, like that's why I kind ofliked when the bulk in breakfast
was like kind of going viraland people were just like eating
stuff.
I'm like, yeah, just put it outthere on your table, don't even

(37:02):
use a plate, just literally putit on your table straight.
And people are like you're raw.
Talking to table, I'm like I'veraw dog, way worse than a
fucking table.
So just put it somewhere andthen eat it.
It's not that complicated,that's what I would say.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
Just not on a wood cutting board.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I mean honestly, go primal, Be a fucking primal boy.
I don't give a shit at thispoint.
Do whatever you want.
It makes you feel good.
I feel like my version of that.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
a lot of the time, I'll just like take a full day's
worth of nutrients and just putthem in a smoothie, and then
Sure why did I suddenly justnotice you have a hook?

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, I was just about to say we're 40 minutes
into this.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
You got a hook.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Sometimes you're supposed to put the hook at the
beginning of the video.
It's a content creation.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Rule number one Sometimes you just gotta be
thematically appropriate.
Oh, okay, he's also got a pegleg.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Avast you mateys.
So when are you putting mesmoothies?
Yeah, just put them in ablender.
Put everything in a blender andjust make it that way.
Fine, who can't, who gives ashit?
Put it, put it somewhere andthen put it in your mouth.
Hole Done.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
I want everybody here to really internalize the next
words I'm about to say.
Anyone listening right now fearopens wallets.
If somebody is trying seeminglytrying to make you afraid of
anything and not offeringinformation, or they just happen
to conveniently be selling thesolution, they're trying to get
you to open your wallet.
It's not very complicated, itreally isn't.

(38:23):
You just change a couple ofthings and you do them
consistently.
You find a way to enjoy themand you go on and suddenly
you're no longer profitable tothe multi-trillion dollar
wellness industry, which makesquite a bit more money than big
pharma, as they call it.
Fear opens wallets.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
If you are afraid right now, there's a reason for
it.
It's basic human psychology.
There's some really interestingstudies where they go and they
try to measure how much peoplewill do to get a certain amount
of money and then how much theywill do to not lose that amount
of money.
So like they'll say here's $50,either do this, or we'll take
it from you, or you can do thisto earn $50.
And across the board, everyonewill always do more to avoid
losing that $50 than they wouldto get that $50.

(39:06):
That's interesting.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
How do you apply that to?

Speaker 4 (39:09):
the real world.
Well, in this sort of context,all these companies typically
apply it in the sense thatpeople are willing to spend more
to avoid losing than to gain.
People will react more based onfear than for positives, like
it's really hard to get peopleto do something to improve

(39:30):
themselves, but they're doing.
It's easier to get them to beafraid of something that might
go go wrong.
I'm not saying it very clearly,but I think.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Let me think about a good example of this yeah, I'll
tell you, anytime I start avideo with something that feels
negative, it does better thanthe videos where I start with,
like you know, just a calm,positive tone.
It's I I almost kind of have tobait and switch it to get my
messages across, because if Ijust come forth with like good
information, like encouraging,motivational information, people

(40:02):
don't tune in.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
It's not encouraging enough for them to stick around
my most successful video of alltime was actually the ironically
, the one that I think thinkfirst put me in touch with Rob.
I was a little bit out of mynormal character, where usually
I'm extremely level-headed ineverything that I say about

(40:23):
science, health, all of that.
But I decided to be a littlebit over the top and talk about
a study about putting bananas insmoothies and why it can
degrade the polyphenols in thosesmoothies.
And I started off by being likedon't just.
Yeah, I'm not surprised.
I was like stop putting bananasin your smoothies.
It destroys their nutritionalvalue.
And I still hold to the factlike I no longer put bananas in

(40:43):
my smoothies because itlegitimately does degrade the
polyphenols.
It doesn't make the wholesmoothie not healthy, it just
lowers it all to a certaindegree.
If you ever put it in there andlet it sit for a day and then
try to taste it afterwards.
That is why it tastes so badbecause of that enzymatic
breakdown.
But the problem is that thatvideo got me another 200,000

(41:05):
followers on Instagram orsomething, because I was talking
about something to be afraid ofwith regards to health and
showing science around it.
And then I posted anotherfollow up video for a five
minute breakdown of all of theactual science around that go
like look at all the nuance.
Let's talk about why.
It is something to keep in mindif you're trying to optimize,

(41:26):
but not something to be afraidof, and I you know 40 000 people
saw that, because who caresthey?
No one wants the details.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
No one wants to be fair.
The the follow-up video is whyyou're here right now.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
So yeah, I mean it, it had.
Yeah, I just wish the two couldbe like, I could link the two
Like don't, don't share thisuntil you watch this.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Meanwhile, jacob, over here, I, I'm still.
I'm going to hold that forever.
I think I might have been likethe first person to find you.
You had like I don't even think100 followers on Instagram.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
Yeah, and you were just posting fact after fact.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
I'm like this dude rocks, like you guys got to
check this out.
It was just like it's.
It was these five second videoswhere you just had the caption
and you're stone cold mogging uson the thing, and it's, it was
just like that's it.
That's the famous face.
And then, yeah, the famous face.

(42:25):
And then, yeah, you guys allsaw him too, and it's like that.
Just that's an example of how afact can just ride on itself
without having to scare peopleokay, seriously folks.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Mike remembers how he met liam, how he met jacob, how
he met abisha, because that wasjust 48 minutes ago.
He does not remember how he metme I do.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
I have a screenshot of you following me as in, I
took a picture.
You were behind me somewhereand I said this guy's following.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Oh, like following physically following, not
following online.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Back in my stalking days.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
I'm glad I'm not the only one who documents that
stuff, cause I have a folder onmy phone I think it's just
called exciting and as I've beengrowing my account every time,
a big, a big account follows meI do take a screenshot or like
if someone dms me, that is oneof these big, well established
accounts I I documented that soI could see I could look back
and be like you know, I actuallydo have all these people who
want to connect with me.
Maybe there is some value towhat I'm saying and it's a.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
It just encourages me a bit more when I go back and
look at all that wait until youget jaded and cynical and Joey
Swole likes something that youposted and it doesn't matter
anymore.
You feel nothing.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
I think that's a great idea, jacob.
It's something that I wish I'dstarted doing earlier, and by
earlier I mean ever, but it's agreat idea.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
You're one of us now, but that's just the way it is.
Whatever us is, whatever thiswhole thing is, I don't know if
I five shirtless guys, that'swhat this whole?

Speaker 1 (43:46):
thing?

Speaker 2 (43:47):
is five shirtless guys restaurant five shirtless
guys can we open?

Speaker 3 (43:50):
it's just it's like five guys, just a little
different, it's not that bigwell, that's where we make our
healthy fast food, or thehealthier fast food, where it's
not so much calorie bombs theyuse peanut oil to fry their
fries, so it's not technically aseed oil right, which means
it's good.
Legume oil.
There we go.
I don't think anyone's eversaid that, but it's true.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Yeah, I like the sound of it, anyone?

Speaker 3 (44:11):
interested in some legume oil.
Legume oil Lentils are legumesright Legume oil.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yes, yes, they are.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
Yeah, so lentil oil, is that a thing that sounds
fucking awful.
So one thing that really doesbug me in this space is there is
so much fear around differentindividual types of nutrients,
products, things like.
I was hosting a dinner partylast year and this was like this
mix and match event where I wasbeing sent a bunch of single
girls and I was supposed toinvite some of my, like, single
male friends to just, you know,put them together and in advance

(44:44):
this girl messages me sayingthat, okay, these are my dietary
restrictions.
Well, I asked if anyone had anydietary restrictions and she
said that I cannot consume whiteflour, sugar or oil.
Yeah, and I tried to clarifylike sesame oil, peanut oil,

(45:05):
does that mean you could havewhole wheat flour?
Like what's what's going onhere?
What, what does that mean?
Like, how, how does one not,how can they not eat oil, just
as a lipids, as a category, bealive?

Speaker 3 (45:21):
well, it's because, yeah, people's definition of
like what counts and whatdoesn't count is is a lot of
it's very arbitrary, dependingon where you're getting your
sources from okay, let me tellyou what pisses me off in the
fucking, like food space andshit.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Uh, I hate, I hate.
I think I've talked aboutbefore, but I hate cheat meals
and cheat days, like just somuch and I was thinking about it
recently and I'm like okay, sobasically what you have is a
planned binge.
That's all you're saying islike I'm planning to binge later
and like but can you imagine ifsomebody did this, but with
some, with, with, not food.
Imagine.
So, okay, imagine we're havinga conversation like hey, mike,

(45:54):
we're having a conversation.
All right, let's start theconversation.
Hey, what's going on?
hey so that's cool.
I have been recently justholding my piss as long as I
possibly can.
For like two days I just holdmy piss and then like at one
point I just fucking fire, hose,that shit and it feels so good

(46:14):
I piss.
For like five minutes straightI am pissing, and then I just
save it all up again as muchuntil I feel like I'm gonna
burst, and then I just let it goup again as much until I feel
like I'm going to burst and thenI just let it go.
So how you doing Actually?

Speaker 5 (46:26):
good mythical morning and we're going to clip that
and it's going to go viral.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
I just like you would be like hey, are you OK?
Do you need help?
I will talk to you.
But when it's about food,people like, oh no, bro, that's
totally cool.
I do it all the time too, likeall right, like sure, but the

(46:52):
rock holds his piss that long.
Oh, that's like.
Imagine you did it withliterally any other bodily
function, like.
It's just like I, I, I, I holdmy shit for as long as possible.
I don't sleep for days, andthen I just sleep for a day
straight like 24 hours.
You would be like you're notwell and I need to talk to you,
but food is the one thing thatwe're like.
Yeah, nah, bro, that's totallynormal.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
See, I'm going to partially disagree, though, when
it comes to cheat days andbased on, like, the overall
psychology of dieting.
I think a big trap that peoplefall into is viewing it as an
all or nothing proposition, likeI don't eat this, I do eat this
, and then, as soon as they falloff the bandwagon, it's like
well, I broke my streak back tothe pizza and really, in order

(47:34):
to create like lasting lifestylechanges, that outside, with
certain people who managed tojust somehow keep up the same
super restrictive diet foreverbecause it's such a big streak,
in general, I think it's a lothealthier to view it as shifting
a mindset towards being ahealthier person, being a person
who prioritizes one food groupover another, a person who eats
certain types of foods andavoids other types of foods, not

(47:55):
as an all or nothing thing,just as a general trend.
And if someone is trying toadopt a new diet, saying that
one day per week, you're justgoing to ignore some of these
requirements that you put onyourself, to realize that that's
not going to entirely destroyeverything you're doing.
You can still have some of thethings that you love, as long as
you do it in moderation.
The problem is when they viewthat as, instead, this is the

(48:16):
one day to see if I can eat7,000 calories worth of Twinkies
, because on the other six daysI can eat Twinkies.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
I think that's how it's going to happen.
A lot of the time, though,because they are so restrictive
and that's what they often do isthat there's just by that,
sunday rolls around.
They're like God, thank Jesus,I'm able to consume actual food,
and so then, of course, they'regoing to do that Plus on top of
that.
Then you have this whole likeoh, it's like I'm going to a

(48:44):
friend's party on thursday, butnow my cheat day, sunday.
Sorry, can't do anything then.
So you kind of have this likeall or like only on this day and
you can't.
That's that's why we'd rather belike yeah, you can have a
twinkie on monday and wednesdayand friday instead of having 10
on saturday so, like I think,but no, I get your idea, though,
of just being less restrictiveand being like okay, yeah,
that's, it's okay to have thisthing.
I, I like that.

(49:04):
I would just like rephrase itor rebrand it, or whatever is
less like of a cheat day andjust more of like it's okay to
be less restrictive.
I don't know, I think there'ssomething there, but I get what
you're saying the word cheat isa real problem in that.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Yeah, yeah, you're building anticipation or undue
value onto it.
That it's.
It just becomes this wholething that you think about it
all the time.
It's.
I don't.
I used to think about food allthe time.
I don't want to do that anymore, as when I was at my heaviest
it would all day.
I'd just be like, oh, I can'twait to go to McDonald's for my
third time today.

(49:38):
I used to be three times a day.
I'd go there and I was stillexcited about somehow autism, um
, but it's.
Yeah, if you build anticipationfor something, you're gonna
overdo it.
Or food, rather, I should say,makes sense.
So don't do that.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
And if food is the only exciting thing in your life
.
You go on the roller coasterand then you go on it 20 times
and you end up barfing I getfucking headaches on roller
coasters.
I don't really like them allthat much same, I'm not a fan of
roller coasters myself.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
I don't hate them, but like I'm not like, oh,
totally my head I like spinningrides around.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Let me show you that face, that face of visa just
gave me.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
You're like oh, I like that, I like vomiting,
that's just I actually.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
I hold my vomit for several days, so okay.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
What's that ride called Pepto-Bismol.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
I'm hopping on.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
So I, when we were in grade I don't know, grade six,
grade seven, I don't knowsomewhere on there, we went to
Callaway Park, which is aamusement park in Calgary, and
they had the Berry Go Round,which is one of those ones where
you manually spin it.
Oh yeah, which?
is one of those ones where youmanually spin it.
Oh yeah.
So, um, I was on there with, uh, three other guys and we, we,

(50:48):
before the ride started, we satthere like, okay, we are going
to spin this as fast as wefucking can.
And I was like, fuck, yes, okay, so we, we get, we get into it,
we start going, we're gettingfast.
Two of the guys, they're likeoh, I can't take this anymore,
and they just kind of bow outand they're sitting there like,
uh, me and me and one other guy,we're just cranking at it,

(51:11):
cranking at it, cranking at itand I'm sorry that part, forget
the other part yeah, me and oneof these other guys we're
cranking it so hard.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
That's the, and then we injected the stem cells.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
But like he uh, eventually he gave in and he was
like no, I can't, and I'm justI'm like screw you guys, I just
keep going and I'm just crankingat this thing so hard.
Eventually the ride stops andthe guy comes over to us and
he's like dude, you need to stop.
You are you're going to breakthe ride because you were going

(51:45):
too fast?

Speaker 3 (51:46):
the ride's over.
Why are you telling me to stopthen?

Speaker 1 (51:48):
unfortunately, like I I hate to disappoint you none
of them vomited, but like I, Ilove the.
The moral of the story was justI love spinny rides and I can
handle them, so all right, thatwas the moral, I guess my
stomach has always been weakerthan most other parts, like even
back in the day when I woulddrink more amounts of alcohol.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
like I've never gotten to the point of real,
like mental.
I'm mentally always there, butmy stomach will give out before
my brain.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
I'm the same way.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Are there stem cells we can send to our stomachs that
we could make them not throw up.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
I mean, there are all sorts of things you can do when
drinking to mitigate theeffects to some degree, but stem
cells are not typically part ofthe list.
Yeah, usually just a shot ofred 40.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Check out the in moderation website for a
discount code on penis stemcells.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Soon, we mix them with red 40.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
So that thing is we actually we only have compounded
stem cells, so there's vitaminb in it and stuff to make it
promo code mike needs anotherinch actually some doctor said
it's a perfect size.
Some doctor completely perfect,in fact the doctor said it
might even be too much was thatdoctor a psychiatrist?

Speaker 1 (53:00):
oh god, chiropractor good samaritan you, you went to
the happy ending chiropractor.
A good samaritan you, you wentto the happy ending chiropractor
didn't you?

Speaker 4 (53:05):
yeah, some things you really don't want to crack god
but you need stem cells, thereyou go.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
So now we've got the whole process figured out yeah,
we figured it out.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
It took us an hour to get there, but we figured it
out there was a study at onepoint looking at the rate of
penile injuries by calendar day.
Oh god, and valentine's day wasup there.
I think the highest was newyear's new year's interesting
really like combining lots ofcopulation with inebriation yeah

(53:39):
, that'll do it it's fireworksdid you like the firework with
your penis.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
People can blow themselves out.
Every year you hear peopleblowing their hands off.
You know there's an equalamount of stories of people
blowing their balls off.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yeah, I don't think that's a penile fracture, though
I think that's kind of adifferent injury.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Oh, fracture Mine's really strong.
If I had fireworks hit mine, itwould be mostly okay.
I'd have to take a breather fora couple of days, but it's not
in the cards for me to lose it.
Yeah, we've got someone in theer with a powder residue on.
I keep saying he's fine, buthe's bleeding out.
He won't show us id.
He says you should know who Iam.
I have 352 000 followers oninstagram.

(54:17):
I'm famous, I'm famous, I'mfamous and then passed out.
This has been an episode of inmoderation without much
moderation.
When we bring it back undermoderation, what's that
happening?
Uh, when I needed, oh there wego, moderation needed, oh that
could be a good one.

Speaker 5 (54:34):
There's another spinoff.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
I like that I'd love to bring back under moderation.
I've just been too overwhelmedwith things.
I'm having trouble evenorganizing this podcast.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
We've all got busy schedules.
We made it happen, did it again, by the way, on a slightly
different note.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
I've been thinking a lot about various ways that
health creators could possiblymonetize in an authentic manner,
and I think this is a really,really big problem in the space,
because you have your like.
Fashion creators can sellclothes and that's authentic,
Even just like gym bro, likefitness creators, it's a very
easy, direct like okay, get mylittle fitness course and that's

(55:14):
that's already starting to getsketchy my pre-workout.
Well, that's the thing, as soonas you start selling supplements
, then all of a sudden yourcredibility within the more like
scientific, health debunkingtype space goes way down and
basically anything like.
I know, rob, you're in Canadaso you don't get this quite as
much.
But when the dozens of brandsreach out on a very regular

(55:35):
basis saying sell my randomsupplement or health product
even for the ones that I look atwhat they're doing and I think
you know what there's somedegree of legitimacy here I
still can't sell them becauseit's too big of a hit to my
credibility.
As soon as I'm within the space, I can no longer talk about the
space.
So it's really and.
But meanwhile it's like if Iwant to spend the majority of my

(55:57):
time reading through medicalresearch and trying to figure
out how to actually explain thisstuff, it's by definition
whatever I'm spending my mosttime on.
I can't actually turn into anysort of income stream and
there's a lot of ways that atsome point we'll have a longer
conversation about ways of doingit.
But one thing that I've beenworkshopping just in terms of,

(56:17):
like you know, the Patreon modelof you know, pay for different
sorts of tiers.
The problem is patreon isessentially donations.
You guess you can give littleperks and stuff, but what type
of perks can you give that areactually useful?
So one thing that I have beenworking on building is the
ability to create a searchableportal for everything that a

(56:38):
creator has ever put out.
So imagine if you could go toyour fans and say, like, like, I
spend all my time talking aboutall these different topics.
Tiktok search is bad, but ifyou Tim straight, it is Like 499
, come in and you can actuallyget access to a well-indexed,
searchable database ofeverything I've ever posted
across all these differentsocial media platforms and get

(56:58):
the answer directly there, andit's something that could be
easily spun up.
In fact, I don't have it on mycomputer right now, but I
actually have a demo version,rob, for your content.
Oh, really.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
You were talking about this in our Discord a
while back.
It was around the time thatTikTok was about to get banned,
I think.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
Yeah, it's something where I very likely I've been
working on this for a while andI think it could be really cool
both for individual creators tooffer and even as a potential
sort of like aggregate healthcreator network, to have
different sorts of opt-ins andsubscribe to different people as
sort of like an aggregated tool, like oh both, even for us to

(57:41):
say, okay, who's covered this inwhat way?
So we can direct the other way.
But imagine, like a database ofall the things that we have
said, that we can provide assort of a network subscription
service to this sort ofinformation.
And there's an added levelthere which is, I don't feel,
authentic in recommending anytype of health product, because

(58:03):
if I do that in a 60 secondvideo, I can't tell you the week
that I spent researching all oftheir patents, their clinical
research trials, the likemedical literature review around
what they're doing and it comesacross as inauthentic.
But if within the portal youcan say, okay, these are the
products that I use for thisreason and you can see the full
stack of why I would or wouldnot recommend it, then suddenly

(58:24):
that opens up the space tosaying this is a way that a
health influencer can recommenda product with full authenticity
because it is paired with thefull degree of transparency
around, why or why not do weactually recommend it?

Speaker 2 (58:36):
I like that I like that a lot but I here's one
concern I guess I would justhave is, like, a lot of times
people don't want, like all ofthat extra fluff I guess I don't
fluff is maybe not the rightword but all of that extra
information.
Often when I talk to peoplethey're like listen, liam, I

(58:56):
just want a yes or no.
I just want, like I want yes orI want no for this and like I
and for me, like I'm an honestperson, I will tell you if I
think this is yes or no.
But I know a lot of people are,like you know, shitty and just
will say yes to everything tosell it.
So, like I don't know there'ssometimes I just want to be able
to.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
I feel like at the same time, as long as the
indexed videos have their timemarks and you can organize them
by the duration of the videoeven those people can look at
the short videos, like I guessthat's the thing they want to.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
Yeah, yeah, it's.
I would feel a lot morecomfortable giving an easy yes
or no to something and even likemaking a short video, selling
it, if I could say and if youwant the actual reason why I'm
doing this, it's there, it'saccessible and for those of you
who are interested, it's it'slike publicly available.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Yeah, that's fair.
I publicly available.
Yeah, that's fair.
Yeah, I like that a lot BecauseI think a lot of people are
just going to be like cool, yeah, sounds good and just go along
with it.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
The majority yes, I agree, everybody listening.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
go head over to Avish's channel.
I'll tell you what that is in asecond.
Go over to his channel and letus know if you would subscribe
to that service and that's yourpoint to drop your channel.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
Yeah, actually I should create a sign up at some
point to be able to let peoplereally know.
I mean, if you go to my website, sign up for the newsletter,
it'll definitely be announcedthere.
But this is something I've beenworkshopping for a while could
be a really interesting methodfor people within our space to
actually more authenticallymonetize in a way that actually
helps people, because it helpsthem say, look, actually use

(01:00:32):
this, it works, as opposed tothese 17 things that don't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
I I'm all in for this .
For sure you've got my faultbecause, like I was saying, like
we, we have really narroweddown our money making potential
by being fucking honest on theinternet, which sad but true
because it's we can I get offersin my inbox all the goddamn
time to sell glp1 medicationswith a.

(01:00:55):
They say you can run your owntelemedicine clinic.
I'm like motherfucker, I own it.
Please be patient.
I'm autistic hat.
You do not want me running amedicine clinic.
I don't have certifications todo that.
Talk to your doctor, not yourinfluencer.
But they're offeringlife-changing amounts of money.
I could make what I make in ayear and a month doing that
stuff, but I won't do it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
There's a massive increase now in companies that
are starting to target the GLP-1space, even just like for
supplements.
There was one company I waslooking at that they're selling
a combination supplementtargeted at GLP-1 users to give
them everything that they aremissing.
It's basically a scoop ofprotein powder and a
multivitamin that they'reselling for a like $80 a month
subscription for like a scoop ofprotein powder and a

(01:01:38):
multivitamin per day, butthey're giving that markup
because it's targeted at GLP-1users.
Right, smart evil, but smart.
Yeah, it is smart.
They're going to make a killingoff people who don't know any
better and just think that, oh,this is what the medicine says I
should take alongside myOzempic and you know what it is,
but you don't need the customlabel.
It's like women's shampoo.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Also seeing a rise in peptides.
Along with that.
Take along with that.
Take these peptides instead ofGLP-1,.
Take these peptides with GLP-1.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
I think Another mini rant here.
Okay, ever since Ozempic andGLP-1s have made their way,
mainstream, people now recognizeGLP-1.
So there's this whole sectorthat's like this is the natural
GLP-1 equivalent.
Natural GLP-1 equivalent Takecinnamon, it raises your glp-1.
Grapefruit raises your glp-1.
If you look at the actualbiochemistry involved here, when
you get a like when you eatfood, glp-1 goes up because it's
your body's satiety mechanismsays okay, you know what, if you

(01:02:37):
eat a little bit more, you'regonna throw up like don't do
that.
The thing is natural.
Glp-1 has an extremely shorthalf-life.
It occurs and then immediatelydissipates.
The way Ozempic works is they'vemodified the molecule to be an
agonist.
It locks into that samereceptor, but you get one
injection and it stays aroundall week, so that for the
duration of the week your bodythinks that it is mostly full

(01:03:00):
and the amount that you havecirculating is orders of
magnitude more than you would begetting naturally.
And the amount that getstriggered by something like
cinnamon is a physiologic level.
It's like a 30% increase inGLP-1, not a 3000% increase that
stays all week.
So saying that cinnamon isequivalent to Ozempic, it's
night and day.
There's literally norelationship there.

(01:03:22):
Yeah, cinnamon will slightlydecrease your blood sugar spike
after a meal, if taken in thesuitable quantity before, and
whether or not that has a healthimpact it's debatable, but it
is going to be entirelyqualitatively different than a
drug like ozempic but what aboutgreen tea, though I've heard
that's way better than green teais healthy.
Drink a lot of green tea thathonestly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
No, no, here's my mini rant.
At this point I say, fuck itall the oat zempic.
If you've seen that, wherepeople are drinking oats and
lime and they're like it's justlike ozempic, I say sure, I
don't give a shit at this point,just say it is and just drink
it.
Is it ozempic?
Of course it's fucking not.
It's not even anywhere close.
But it's still oats and likelime and shit.
That's good, or like all theseother ones.

(01:04:04):
You know, we can do another onewith like fucking way gloomy or
whatever, legumes and way go beor some shit.
Put those together.
I don't give a shit, it's beans, it's being ozempic.
I, it's all, it's all ozempic.
I don't care, just fucking eatit or drink your tea or whatever
Like, and liam checks out, allright.

(01:04:31):
That's that's my fucking rant.
But I was gonna say before thatI think the big thing is gonna
be the fucking cal ai trackers,the calorie trackers that are
fucking ai.
That's gonna be massive.
That's gonna be so huge.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
It's all bullshit, but it's gonna be huge because
they can make so much money offit yeah, it doesn't have to be
problematic though, because itit is true that what you track
like if you actually keep a log,that is one of the most
effective ways of minimizingyour total calorie consumption.
But it's really hard andannoying and no one's going to
do it for an extended period oftime.
But if we get really good atthe AI tracking for food logging

(01:05:00):
, that could actually be areally useful tool for weight
loss tool for weight loss.
Combine that with the fact,like I can go and have chad gpt
act as an expert nutritionistcreate a low calorie, high
satiety, a high micronutrientcontent food set of recipes,
have an agentic ai, go and placean instacart order for all the
necessary ingredients to makethose foods and have it show up

(01:05:21):
with all the necessary likeinstructions and not be paying
the extra.
Hello, fresh arm and a legmarkup on top of it and that
goes right into the tracker andsuddenly you've got this fully
like concierge meal service thatI think there's a place for ai,
certainly within all of this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
But the idea that you can go to a restaurant, just
like, take a picture of yourfood and they're like, oh, 800
calories.
Like, yeah, okay, sure, likewe're not, we're nowhere near
there, but like you could, yeahwe're not quite there in terms
of that level of accuracy.
Yeah, like we're getting therethough if you have, like you
know, you take a picture like oh, I have three eggs and there's
a sweet potato there.
Sure, that could probably trackthat pretty well, but, like you

(01:05:57):
know what people are using itfor right now?
It's, it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Yeah I saw a video of somebody putting it was a bowl
of oatmeal and they took apicture and AI said it was like
300 calories or something.
And then they took an entirebottle of olive oil and put it
in there and like arranged it sothat the oatmeal would be on
the top.
And then they took a pictureagain.
It said 300 calories.
Meanwhile there's like 7,000calories sitting in there.

(01:06:24):
We're not ever going to be.
How could it ever tell?

Speaker 5 (01:06:30):
It could get better.
You have to like, scan everysingle ingredient and have to
know, like, how big it is andhow much volume it's taking up.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Maybe if you took the picture before cooking.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
It's really about user training.
Like people need to know whattypes of foods will be accurate
and what types will not.
You're talking about like agrilled chicken breast.
It's easier to estimate thatthere are certain types of like
salads where the ingredients arediscrete and then you have to
like, maybe figure out, thetypical dressing concentration.
What have you like?
There are some things that theywon't be able to tell, but it

(01:06:59):
can at least get you part of theway there do a guesstimate.
The problem is you definitelycan't rely on it as a 100% and
you got to know which thingsit's going to be completely off
about.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Just do your best.
Whoever's listening to us rightnow Just don't do your worst.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
That's what we say.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Fuck your best, just don't do your worst.

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
Do your worst.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Just don't be your worst, and that's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
And apparently also don't be Canadian.
That's what I've learned.
You won't have to be for awhile.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
I keep saying that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
We need to have an intervention.
Ron, you can't do this anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
Meanwhile, like I often spend a lot of time using
like chronometer trying to trackexactly what I'm eating and
creating these different recipesto try and figure out, like how
to cram more calories into myday, I have a really hard time
putting on weight.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Isn't that a crazy position to be in.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
It gets very little sympathy.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
After losing 110 pounds.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
I never thought my situation would be.
I've got to put weight on, butsure enough, that's what it was,
and it's taken me what?
Almost three years now to puton a healthier 20 pounds.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
I mean one of the single best like metrics that
correlates with longevity andhealthy longevity and health
span is muscle mass.
And it gets harder and harderto put on muscle mass the older
you get, so like putting on asmuch as possible now is great.

Speaker 5 (01:08:20):
But you're saying it's hard if you can't maintain
a caloric surplus and take thetestosterone.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
you know all that sort of stuff Take steroids yeah
, can't maintain a caloricsurplus and take the
testosterone.
You know all that sort of stufftake steroids yeah, yeah, trt
sarms, you know it's actually.
It's fascinating how steroidsthere's a lot of like research
coming out now where, likepeople who are former like
steroids users, the impact stayswith their body in the sense
that they will, like, always beable to maintain more muscle
than people who haven't usedthem, and that doesn't

(01:08:46):
necessarily mean that thosepeople are going to have
long-term net health positives.
But it does have interestingimplications for, like
bodybuilding competitions andcurrent steroid use versus
former steroid use.
Right, right, it's.
Also I think we're going tostart seeing a very different
sort of approach to trt,especially for people in like,

(01:09:06):
not like.
It's very stigmatized now inmany ways, but I feel like it
probably gets a bad rap becauseI know someone who has on the
very low end, yeah like it's amuscle.

Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
I know people who are about my age who are starting
trt with perfectly normaltestosterone levels just to like
get that boost yeah, that's notwhen in reality that's called
steroids I'm 23 oh, yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
I mean not that there's ever an age that you
should.
Yeah, you're 40, it's time tostart on steroids.
But yeah, that's, that's insane.
You don't even give yourself achance.

Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
Yeah, at that point, yeah, like unless you have a
diagnosed like testicularcondition I know a guy who had
higher testosterone than I haveright now, who started TRT, and
it's just like unless you're job, throwing away money each month
, also a good job, potentiallydestroying your body's ability
to endogenously producetestosterone, so you might have

(01:09:59):
to be on like the TRT stuff forthe rest of your life If you
don't do it like carefully.
That's what scares me.
That's like, that's like that's.
That's the no-go.
There's nothing that would makeme risk that yeah, no, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
That's terrifying.
Like I'm sure I would feelbetter if I took more
testosterone, but like I don'twant to do that to myself it's
like the after however manygenerations of humans
reproducing.

Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
I don't want to take something to make me feel a
little bit better.
That's just going to cut offthe potential of me reproducing
I got a vasectomy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
I can do whatever the hell I want.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
I'm gonna start blasting a thousand milligrams
of trend jacob's over heretalking about reproducing,
meanwhile liam's like I want thesnip and mike's already got the
snip.

Speaker 4 (01:10:38):
Yeah, I'm fucking speaking of new science, there
is now a male, iud I saw that,bro.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
I heard about that so cool.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they finally passed it huh see,
the scary thing to me is it'sbasically like a little switch.
You could turn on and off, butlike, imagine forgetting the
position.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
Like on off, it's in hold on, I gotta turn my balls
off, wait I saw the way.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
No, no, no, I saw the one that that's.
It's like for a certain periodof time, like you put like a
hard, like it's like a hard gelor something basically in there
that like yeah, that is one.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
There is one that was announced pretty recently that
seems to be like potentiallylike a little mechanical thing
that you could flip on and offthat yeah I've been following
that one, that one's interestingpresumably there would be a
ironclad way of telling whichsetting.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Yeah I would hope so.
Can I rename the settings tolike full blast or like.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
I want to set a ringtone.
So every time I switch it it'slike oh, that's there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
There, you know, you just need to connect to
Bluetooth and then you can lookat your phone Okay.
Am I?
Am I fertile right now?
On off.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Kiss from a rose out of my sack, and that's how I can
.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Goddamn my sack.
And that's how I can cut downmy kiss from a rose.
For those, for those who don'tknow um on my live streams on
twitch, mike will come in andI've got the ability to request
songs.
If you, you know, put 50 bitsin the jukebox, mike will put
like like 10 000 bits in andit'll be like play kiss from a
rose 20 times I had to tell myaccount you ever heard the like?

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
that's where the money was going because she was
like why is there a bunch ofmoney going to Twitch?

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Don't worry, that's me.

Speaker 5 (01:12:11):
No one stole my investment.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
It's an investment.
Have you ever heard the JohnMulaney sketch about what's new
Pussycat?

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Oh, that's a great one.
I know exactly what you'retalking about.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
I once had Rob play 10 Kisses from a Rose and then I
think it was one like 800 or itwas what was like 2000.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
It was a one hertz sine wave.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
One kilohertz sine wave.
Yeah, so it's just suddenlyafter 10 Kisses from a Rose.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
Yeah, Mike is a lot of chaos in my stream.
Still haven't been banned.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
That all being said.
I do have to clock out of here,so I am going to remove myself.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Yeah, make sure everybody can.
It's time to wrap up, tellpeople where to find you.
It's all this normal shit,Jesus you've been on this
podcast like five times youalready know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Every time I'm here I tell you I don't want anybody
more finding me.

Speaker 5 (01:12:58):
I have enough people finding me.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
But if you want to find me, you can find me at
MikeMead a plan on Instagram andTikTok.
I think I'm in other places.
You can also go to schoolcomslash plan.
You can find me there,s-k-o-o-l.
What about everybody else?
Just me, just you.
See you, mike.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
I mean find me on at distilled science everywhere.
I'm Jacob Foods.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Assuming that your recording actually goes through
this time Jacob.

Speaker 5 (01:13:25):
Hey, I haven't gotten any problems yet jacob is at
jacob's foods there we gothere's.
There's no o in the name,though right, it's just there.
So jacb.
The username is jacb foods, butif you look up jacob foods, I
think it'll still pop up you'llprobably find it just making
sure people can find you,because you've got awesome
content.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
So thank you yeah, if you guys are not following
jacob yet, go ahead and do it go, go, follow these three
gentlemen while they standaround shirtless for you and
everybody.
Don't be your worst we're alsoall pantsless, right.
Well, yeah, duh, just me, okaycool yeah, every podcast starts,
that's how you just start thecall it's.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
It's obviously banana hammock.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
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