Roundtable: Snack Banter and Fitness Realism with Mike & Kevin

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They say you're such a good guy, I'd love for you to
be my neighbor.
And I say, no, I won't be yourneighbor.
And they're coming in from theland of make-believe.
They're sending all theirpeople from the land of
make-believe into our beautifulcountry.
So, canada, we're about toannex you, fuckers.
You're about to not have healthcare anymore.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Bro, I hear the plan is to annex us.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
That's going to take an afternoon.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Let's not even.
Let's not worry about that.
That's.
It's gonna be very short.
I love the idea, though, likeof all the fucking wild ideas
out of there, for them just topull out.
Take canada I gotta say that'sfucking fun, man, like that's
something to get people talking.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
That whole hundred minutes was deeply depressing do
you think we'll have to get ridof their like all of their
metric system and they can onlyuse freedom units?
Or like what do you think?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
We're going to get rid of all units except inches.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Everything will be measured in inches.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
I think that it'll it'll be adopted over time,
because we'll just do what we dowith everything else We'll
pretend it doesn't exist untilit conforms to our version of
reality yeah, it's a little slow, which I don't love.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
I kind of I'd love to for them just to overnight to
get rid of every all theirnonsense about centimeters and
fucking kilometers.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
I don't even like bugs, like who wants centimeters
running all over.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Exactly.
That's gross gross inches.
Please like clean your houses.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
What's wrong with you ?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
how many of my feet go to that thing?
That's what I'd like to know,and I don't want to give it time
to figure that out I.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
I personally would rather give distance in time
than in, you know, stupid milesor even dumber kilometers as a
former jersey driver everythingin kessel runs now I, uh, I, I
give distance, and how manymiddle fingers I'm going to give
in between there and then?
Isn't that just one continuous?
Middle finger that I have apart of jersey right like do you

(01:54):
ever lower your hand?
Outside of philly, it's justall the way both hands.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Jesus, take the wheel , my hands are occupied.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
20 because, uh, on just before this I was driving
around getting groceries and Iwas telling Liam, canadian
problem, got to a four-way stopand a bunch of people stopped at
the same time and everybody'slike, oh no, you go away, bud.
No one went.
Because everybody's like, no,you go, you go.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
And four people died that day in place.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
It's interesting Until they sat and starved you
that day in place.
It's interesting you guysstopped at stop sign.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Yeah, like pause roll .
If you're feeling particularlyaware, maybe look in one or even
both directions If you're oneof them, scaredy cats, it's
paranoid people.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Dude, I was so scared of traffic when I was in San
Francisco.
That's legitimate.
San Diego is way worse.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah, because you're down by the 405 there and that's
the second worst road.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
in the United States that was the biggest culture
shock was just getting out ofthe airport and seeing the
traffic and everybody's fightingfor spots.
You fly into Canada, you getout of the airport and it's just
these polite lanes, trafficstops for pedestrians.
You don't need crossing guards.
What a bizarre country.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Do you have just like three people there, four if you
count Tim.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
I don't Okay, well then three.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Our crossing guards are armed over here.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
That pitch is ours now.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, I think we've got one here in Texas now.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Well, I mean, we might as well start this up and
just fucking start talking.
Here Are we recording, we'rerecording.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
We're recording.
Oh, okay, let's start.
We got the amazing returningpresident impression from Mike
Yep.
Thank you very much.
I definitely think you shoulduse that.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Definitely.
It would be interesting to seehow many people I'd make upset
with it on either end.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Because it's well's, I'm invoking the name or I make
it fun of the guy.
Whichever one.
There are three guaranteedthings in life.
Now it's up from two it isdeath, taxes and someone on the
internet's going to be mad atyou it's a beautiful day in my
neighborhood fuck you something,something founding fathers,
something, something americanproblems.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
You've got a lot of problems, well, so this is in
moderation.
I've been told I'll do theintro, why not?

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Welcome to In Moderation.
Let's have Mr Rogers do theintro.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
The show where we do stuff about in moderation and we
already know we're not approved, and all that good stuff.
So, hi everyone.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
What's our other tagline?
What's our other tagline?
What's the other?

Speaker 1 (04:28):
tagline Well, don't be your best, don't be a dick.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, sure, I don't even know.
I was just saying that to seewhat you come up with, k-bye.
I don't even know what the fuckwe do here.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
It's not fuck me a K-bye.
We can't hit him with that now.
We're a minute into this thing,so I don't feel like I feel
like it would be wrong for me tointroduce myself first.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
No, it's everything's considered right here in
moderation.
Go right ahead.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
I don't run the show.
Hi everybody, my name is MikePridgen lost 110 pounds, but I'm
most proud of keeping theweight off.
Together, we're going to do thesame thing, kindly and
moderately.
Love doing things in moderation.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
You also love doing things kindly.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
I also love doing things kindly.
I think it's a great way tooperate, because I did things
meanly for a long time, mostlytowards myself.
I was very mean to myself, myinternal monologue was awful and
now you know.
If you speak to yourselfnegatively and you want to fix
that, come on over and talk withme on.
Uh, mike needs a plan.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
That's where I'm at, everywhere this is just waiting
to see a little early majordeparture from what we were
doing before.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Can we talk about some british sitcoms that were
canceled half an episode through.
Oh shit, that's great how youdoing kevin, kevin, how about
you?

Speaker 3 (05:44):
let's, uh, let's get an introduction.
British sitcoms that werecanceled half an episode through
.
Oh shit, that's great how youdoing?

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Kevin, kevin, how about you?
Let's get an introduction fromyou.
What are you about?
Tell everybody all the kindpeople.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Well, my name's Kevin .
I like long walks on the beach.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
You may have seen me.
Who doesn't like long walks onthe beach?
Come on, my fingers through myhair.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah, I may have been seen on a book at your local
CVS which you were awkwardlylooking at your face.
I'm Kevin from Pure Bullfit andI like to keep fitness simple,
because health and wellness issimple.
It's just not easy.
I spend my time helping folksreach their goals in sensible,
sustainable manners, because Ibelieve in sustainable over

(06:22):
sensational.
Let's see Do we have any otherthings.
I say I just love this becausefitness gave me my life back and
I'd love to give that energy toother people.
But I'm probably here because Ihave a really bad filter
between my brain and my mouthand Rob loves to take advantage
of that.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
So heck, yeah, I do.
I mean that gets you pretty farin life.
You look at a lot of the peoplewho've made it pretty far.
I feel like they all kind ofhave that.
That's one of the issues theyhave.
You know, there's a filter.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
There's a filter, you know.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Sometimes it happens.
If the filter's through words,Sometimes it's through action.
Sometimes you end up slappingsomeone on the stage at the
Oscars or whatever, Like youknow shit happens.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Wait, please don't tell me something like that
happened.
Please don't tell me.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
I'm dead.
Oh no, listen, it's gettingblown out of proportion.
Jamie Foxx was eating myTwinkies.
I left them backstage and Iasked him if I could have my
Twinkie back and he said no.
And when I went to reach for it, he threw his face into my hand

(07:23):
over and over again and then hestuffed the Twinkie in my hand
and he made my mouth say keep mymotherfucking twinkies out your
motherfucking mouth.
and then he made me slap itweird, weird that sounds exactly
like something jamie fox woulddo this sounds sensational over
sustainable, for sure yeah, no,I could sustain that all day
long if you give me enoughTwinkies.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
That's what I used to do back in my day.
I liked zebra cakes.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Okay, so jokes aside, zebra cakes is good.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
I'm going to be honest.
I don't know.
Does anyone here actually likeTwinkies?

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Anybody.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
I love shitty food.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
No, don't get me wrong, I love shitty food as
well, but Twinkies is not theTwinkie there's.
No, the texture is not great,it's just all like sponge.
And then this weird cream Idon't.
When they got discontinued Iwas like good, perfect, and then
people got all pissy about it.
Oh, we have to bring it back.
I'm not a Twinkie fan.
They got discontinued.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Briefly.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, a while back.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, they changed the formula for a little while
and everybody hated it.
Well, the company that wasproducing them shut down briefly
for a second.
They were trying to find a newbuyer to continue to produce
Twinkies, because we've only gota couple of things that are
purely American and it waseither going to be like without
that.
We've got the Statue of Libertyand the Bald.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Eagle.
America did not inventcream-filled cake.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Wait what.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
We didn't invent them , we perfected it, damn it
that's just something else wetook from the front is there
anything that's like you wouldclaim is predominantly american?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
for a snack food or something?

Speaker 3 (08:55):
medical bills.
Snack food.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Oh wait for snack food okay, I was about to say
gun violence, uh, so it's a lotof things that are yeah, yeah,
yeah, those fit the bill, but uhhating.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Like I can think of a couple things that are like, if
I was to send you guys foodfrom canada, I can be like okay,
there's all dress chips,there's nunimo bars, there's
maple candies of all sorts.
I I don't know what you guyswould send me.
That's, what about themcdonald's?

Speaker 1 (09:22):
southern barbecue.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Okay, well, yes, your mcdonald's southern barbecue,
okay, well, yes, your mcdonald'sfries.
I didn't get to try the frieswhile I was down there.
What?
Why the hell did you come?
Because scotty dragged me outthere.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
That's fair, that's fair and you didn't get the
fries.
I didn't even see scotty,doesn't?

Speaker 4 (09:39):
yeah, scotty doesn't look like he eats a lot of fries
oh, well, then you didn't cometo America.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
What the fuck are you talking?

Speaker 4 (09:43):
about there's McDonald's.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
He lied to you, there's three within like four
miles of me.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Well, what happened was, rob went to the McDonald's
and he said why are the friesmissing?
What's it?
The cheese, curds and the gravy?
Sir, we don't.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
I was reading the menu.
Where's the poutine?

Speaker 1 (10:05):
He's in russia.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Oh, and that's the end of in moderation, we'll do a
challenge.
We end on the worst pun ifanybody makes a pun.
We immediately have to cut thefucking podcast after that we
had a few of those before westarted recording well, you know
, actually, now that it is, Ihave a question for you guys.
Now that it's it is a new year,I think I guess maybe in our
last episode was like the firstepisode of new year or whatever.
But like I want to ask you guys, what do you think the trends

(10:29):
of this year are going to be interms like fitness, nutrition?
You know, like what's the newnew trend?
Are we going to see the end ofcarnival?

Speaker 1 (10:36):
I think we're in for a pardon my french a fuck-ass
year.
I think there's going to be awhole lot of fuck assery
happening, especially with themake america healthy again
movement that's coming.
We're about to see tons ofcrazy stuff.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
I don't even know if we can really accurately predict
things that are coming thisyear I would say you can expect
a general regression in umevidence-based information
regarding nutrition yeah,there's gonna be a whole lot of
feelings sad to hear and becausethere's already an uptick in
people freaking out about highuh fructose corn syrup in baby

(11:17):
formula and that's not a thingright.
Corn syrup is in baby formula,but that's not the same thing as
high fructose corn syrup,because people already hate
formula.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
They're just looking for a reason.
They know corn.
Like what was it?
There was like a post goingaround saying RFK wants to
remove high fructose corn syrupfrom soda, which never I don't
think he ever said, but like thepeople just shared it because
it sounded like something hewould say.
So I feel like we're goinggonna get a lot of those,
especially with fucking metabeing like nah, you don't need
fact check anything, so likewe're just gonna get stuff, just
anything shared and anything togo viral.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
the more crazy, the more likely it'll go viral which
, so I think, we're gonna seemore of that because that
behavior has been rewarded overthe last couple of years oh,
it's not only good for gettingyou a lot of attention, which
used to be the currency peoplewere most concerned with.
But attention, especiallyshort-term attention with no
substantive information, is nowmonetizable.
It is very profitable and thereare a lot of people that are

(12:15):
taking advantage of rubish sheep, people who don't go to the
barest effort to verify orvalidate anything that they hear
.
They go with their gut check,which is famously a good idea.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
It's really annoying coming from a Canadian, because
Americans always seem to thinkthat the rest of the world works
exactly like them.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Well, we stole all our shit from you, so it's not
working like that anymore.
What the fuck is it workinglike?

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Every time I make a post, there's always somebody
that's like referencing howamerican systems work, like this
or whatever, or um, oh, myfavorite, my favorite was um,
damn it, what's her name?
The, uh, the one girl I thatactually attacked like did an
attack video against me.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
I don't even remember her name anymore oh, the one
that's always about is talkingabout pfas and shit like that.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, yeah, um.
But she also did one about drids and the fda, calling out dr
ids for not making the ad clear.
And I was debunked in her thingabout how that Dr Ids is
British, he is not US, he doesnot follow the FDA rules, he

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follows the British nutritionrules.
And she was like no, he stillhas to follow the FDA rules.
No, interesting.
No, he's British, the FDAdoesn't control the world.
Sorry, I mean to be fair.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
We go to other countries and we expect them to
act according to our customs, sowhy wouldn't she believe that?
You know what I'm saying?
What do you mean?
I have to poop in a hole overthe ground.
Where's my fucking toilet, youasshole?

Speaker 1 (14:00):
That'll be.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
The new health trend in 2025 is pooping in holes.
Well, it's actually morehealthy for you because it is an
easier it's already startedcolon.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
It helps you I'm not after the coffee enema.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
No, we, and we wipe our ass with the dry paper.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
I will take nothing else use code crouch to get 15
off your squatty pot I use twowipes at a minimum I it's.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
I'm just, I'm saying you go to another country like
as american, you just reallyexpect, you know, like a lot of
americans get in trouble, theygo over to russia, they go to
another place and they startacting like fucking americans
and then, yeah, you get.
You get rung up for that shit,like you're not right.
I think, um, what I?
One thing I think we'll seemore of.
Not, I don't think not onlywill carnivore not go away.

(14:43):
I think think we're going tosee more of raw.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
I was about to say that's we're going to see.
We're already seeing the rise,but that may be the thing that
dominates 2025.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
I think we're going to see a huge uptick in that.
Like, raw milk will definitelystay around, but I think the raw
milk will lead into doing otherthings, raw giggity, and then I
think meat will just kind of.
I think I think you know thenext logical jump is eating your
steak, um, as rare as possible,which is fucking not cooking it

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.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
So outside of the consideration of being worried
for children who aren't oldenough or have enough autonomy
by law to be able to make thesedecisions for themselves.
Like this is the land of thefree right here in the states if
people want to invite botulismand other bacterial infections
because they're too thesedecisions for themselves.
Like this is the land of thefree here in the States If
people want to invite botulismand other bacterial infections
because they're too stupid tocook their meat something we
learned over thousands of years,hundreds of thousands of years

(15:35):
and millions of years ofevolution, trial and error.
We learned certain things youjust don't eat because it do bad
things to you, and if peoplewant to go back to learning
those lessons the hard way, theywant to volunteer.
Scientifically speaking, thoseare just additional data points.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Right.
I think I would love to hit onthis because this is like this
is a sticking point for a lot ofpeople.
I've seen, like people like DrRubin, brought up, like oh, we
should, raw milk should beillegal because even outside of
like children, you can getthings from raw milk that can be
passed to other people and I'mlike you know what.
I think that's a fair point.
I don't know that, I don't,yeah, so I like I totally

(16:13):
understand that, but also I dobelieve if you want to you know
smoke cigarettes you should beable to smoke cigarettes.
I think it's stupid, I don't.
I think smoking is dumb, butlike alcohol, is poison people.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
We have an entire culture, uh, built around
socializing, revolving aroundalcohol?

Speaker 3 (16:30):
yeah, and how many people to make those does
alcohol cause?
Not even from the peopledrinking it?
From the death?
Just in my family, three, butalso like you have drunk driving
, you have all these things andyet we still say alcohol is okay
I.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
I do believe that a dui should result in a permanent
license suspension, which is avery hot take, I know.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
I don't think that's a hot take.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
It's just like take them off the road.
If you're willing to get in acar like that, get a ride.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, it's 100% a choice and they made a really
shitty-ass choice.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, and that's a tough one, because you know you
want to give someone a secondchance and because there are
people that would be able toturn their life around.
But often it's repeat offenders, when it's not not just when it
comes to like drinking orwhatever, but like gun violence.
A lot of gun violence is, youknow, is caused by people who
repeat offenders yeah, I gotaway with it once, so maybe I'll
get away with it again.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
I have it's the easiest thing I do every day is
not drive drunk like it is.
Simply it would actually takemore effort.
Have you ever do it?

Speaker 2 (17:30):
have you ever stopped to consider the fact that your
driver's license the most useyou get out of it.
Most people get out of it isusing it to purchase things that
make you inebriated and unableto drive.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
That's kind of funny, I didn't really think about
that.
Okay, but let me play.
Like you know, like the devil'sdevil's advocate here, like um
it.
You know, alcoholism is anaddiction.
So a lot of people are, are youknow, are actually addicted to
it and they maybe don't want todrink anymore, but they just
they can't.
So, like you know, and I stilltotally get, it like they're're
driving drunk.

(18:04):
We can't have that.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
At the very least, their license should be taken
away from them until theygraduate from an addiction
program.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
So if we, what the fuck he's flying in my house,
get the fuck away from me.
Hopefully it's benign.
Anyway, this is Maine.
It's questionable.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Half the stuff is here.
That's another trend.
Eating things you find in yourhouse is going to be a new trend
for 2024.
That's already a trend.
As inflation goes up, as it'spredicted too, people are just
going to be we're going to goback to eating the sorts of our
shoes and some of those ratthings he makes.
They don't look so bad.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
They don't look so bad.
They look better the hungrieryou are.
Exactly so talking about howalcoholism is an addiction is
actually in support of them notgetting their license back,
because people who are familiarwith addiction I used to work in
an addiction facility helpingpeople recover know that that is
a lifetime recovery and you areat an increased risk of

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returning to that behavior.
It just supports the idea that,as much as we can care for
people and have compassion forthem, when it comes to
protecting other people fromtheir poor decisions, once you
have crossed a certain thresholdperhaps you don't get those
privileges back because it's nota right.

(19:25):
I feel the same way about I'm a2A proponent, but for sensible
2A.
I believe that if you're goingto own a firearm, it has to be.
You should lose thoseprivileges and there should not

(19:47):
be so much wiggle room.
And oh well, it wasn't intended, it was collateral.
The bullet went through the badguy Every idiot with a gun
thinks they're the good guy andthen hit somebody across the
street.
Well, there wasn't intent, sothat shouldn't haunt them the
rest of their life.
Failing to know what is beyondyour target and choosing wisely

(20:07):
is poor judgment, and if youhave poor judgment.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
You should not have an instrument that could end
lives the hammer screwdriver gottrigger happy the thing is,
there's so many other things todo in this life than own a gun
like if that don't suck it crazyhold on a second.
Whoa, not what I said.
Like if that gets taken, thewhole life isn't over.
You just do something else.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
It is, if it's your entire identity and not to
compare gun ownership toaddiction.
But there are lots of thingsthat we do in society that we
wrap up in our identity.
I know people that if you tooksports betting or just talking
about their favorite team awayfrom them, they wouldn't have
anything left right yeah, like I, I the idea that, like we

(20:51):
should.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Just we've gone past that point where we can just
take people's guns there's, evenif we wanted to, which is I
don't think is a good idea.
We can't do it, like it's justnot gonna happen.
So I think the best thing wecan then we can do is prevent as
many injuries and as manydeaths as possible.
And from you know, I like I'mnot an expert on this topic, but
it's it does seem like a lot ofpeople, a lot of these come

(21:12):
from repeat offenders.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
So I feel like, immediately, have you guys
already had like 20 massshootings this year?
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Far more than that.
It's in the several hundreds ohwait, I'm sorry, it's January.
Several hundreds oh wait, I'msorry, it's.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
January.
Things are going down, I meantoday was 206.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
Oh wait, I'll tell you what my idea is to end
shootings.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
We can't take guns away, but what we can do is
replace all bullets with alittle flag that says bang on it
.
There you go.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
People would be modding the spring, that pushes
that out and they would turn itinto a spring-loaded knife very
quickly Like we're really goodat killing people in this
country.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yes, we are.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
With our food?
Yeah, you are.
With our cars, with our hygiene, with our approach and
acceptance of modern medicineWith our politics.
With our politics.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah, but yeah, I would kind of want to get back
to what we were talking aboutbefore with just this, the kind
of attack on evidence-basedinformation, because I think
this is really this is I thinkthis could be a huge trend.
I mean, we're going to haveprobably legislation pushed
through that doesn't really makea whole lot of sense to people

(22:21):
who are actually like, can youimagine being like someone who
actually works like the fda,like a scientist, and you have
like fucking, you know, rfktrying to push, trying to like
eliminate some food dye or seedoil or something like that?
That's got to be fucking awful.
I, I would lose my mind there.
But like I don't know how youfight this because like, uh, it

(22:44):
just seems like people havealready made up their minds and
now we're gonna have less, youknow, uh, fact checking with
like meta and everything saying,nope, it's all good, just free
speech, talk about whatever youwant.
Like, what do you even doagainst this?
I, people seem to have alreadyhave their minds made you know
what's.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
What's messy about this whole thing, too, is that
these people, everything they'resaying, for the most part like
if you dig down deep to the rootof it, it's good.
It's like we want healthierpeople, we want cleaner foods,
all that thing.
But the way they're going aboutit is let's remove the
regulation that currently keepsour food safe Right.

(23:24):
Remove the regulation thatcurrently keeps our food safe
right.
And no, what's going to happenif you give more power to
corporations is they're going toput less quality ingredients
into food.
They're going to use strongerpesticides.
They'll use strongerpreservatives.
They can do anything they want.
They'll start putting sawdustinto ground beef.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
I don't know like it's so weird that they're
against regulation but they'realso for regulating a lot of
different things, like when itcomes to regulation is easy to
be against.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
That's why I gentle pushback mike.
I don't agree with you that itcomes from a good place.
I believe that the good placeis the justification yeah, no, I
agree with you there, it's.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
It's, I mean like the ultimate point is a good one,
not that they mean it in a goodway, but it's like, yeah, we
want people to be healthier andhave better foods.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
But OK, ok, here let's.
Can we get like a few pointsLike what do people want?
Like what do we want?
We want more healthy people.
We probably want less homelesspeople, because as does anyone
that's like, yeah, I want morehomeless people.
I feel like everyone can kindof agree Less homelessness is

(24:30):
gentle pushback.
I you're making an assumptionthat people care.
I mean, if you took a poll andyou're like you want more, or
less homeless people.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yeah, what do you think?
In taking a poll, you have laidthe expectation that there's
going to be a response right howmany people, without being
prompted, are doing somethingabout the thing that they would
respond on the poll that theycare about?
That's the real question,because our words indicate our
character.
Our actions prove it true.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
And what I'm trying to say here is I'm not trying to
be overly cynical I think theaverage person, particularly in
this country, is so wrapped upwith how things are affecting
them they don't really do muchwork thinking about what is
going on and they are respondingemotionally to the information
that they are given, just to theinputs.

(25:13):
There's not a lot of output.
We have developed a culturewhere our identity revolves
around how we feel about ahandful of topics and whenever
someone disagrees with thattopic, it is an attack on you
because it is part of youridentity.
So, as a necessary mechanism ofthat, we have become accustomed

(25:35):
to being angry, enraged,anxious about everything, and
it's about engaging in thatfeeling with whatever mechanism
works, because it motivatesshort-term action and the
direction of donations and moneyand effort that benefit the
people who realize we're aimless.

(25:55):
As long as I give them somebodyto be afraid of, someone to
blame for it and a problem, wecan say anything.
Why are they for someregulations and against others?
Because who likes being toldwhat to do?
It is the easiest fucking thingin the world to say regulation
is bad.
Regulation is what pulled usout of iron barons and coal mine

(26:17):
barons uh, absolutely abusingusing up their people like they
were nothing more than resources, driving them into the ground,
keeping them poor, like we movedaway from that because the
consequences were enough.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
And that's the answer to rob's question I just want
to bring up like a great exampleof that is like during, uh,
during the coal mining era, likecoal mining businesses would
pay their like employees in liketokens that they could only use
to buy things at their store,so you couldn't use it in the US
.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
What did Elon fucking Musk just recommend doing?
Building his own fucking townwith their own fucking currency
in fucking Texas.
Did he.
Yes, it was just in the news.
I'm like how did we not fuckingdo people read books?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
anymore.
It's going to be in my city.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Not really, I will be able to drive through
Muskeville.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
Musketon.
I like Musketon.
He has to be aware enough toname it something else.
No, I hope he goes all ornothing.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
All or nothing Muskie It'll probably have X in the
name.
But that's like regulationthough.
It's just like saying hey, thecoal mining industry you can't
fuck people that badly, likethat's.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
that's.
That's real bad.
Child labor laws, yeah, youcan't have your seven-year-old
work an 80-hour week.
Why?
Because of regulation.
Now, I'm not saying that allregulation is useful or good,
but this mindless pushbackagainst it is because you've
been given something to be angryabout.
They don't care about details,and it's not just one group of
people.
You know, the folks that agreewith me largely on social issues
are just as easily motivated bytheir initial emotional

(27:53):
reaction and they don't put awhole lot of thought.
That's how we got from.
You know, let's not fat shamepeople.
To exercise is abuse.
You're abusing your body andpersonal trainers are Nazis and
white supremacists.
That's how we got to theseridiculous conclusions, because
our thought processes wentunchecked, because we were told

(28:17):
to be angry about a thing,instead of just addressing the
legitimately actionable rootcauses of behaviors that are be
nice to overweight people, okay.
Treat them like human beings.
Stop paying them less.
Stop ignoring them.
Become a better person, right?
Okay, stop being a bigot.
Stop being afraid of somebodybecause they have a different
culture or different religion ora different skin color than you

(28:38):
.
Okay, stop demonizing food sothat we can figure out what a
healthy relationship with thetotal amount of food that we're
intaking.
Stop being afraid of a doctorsaying this vaccine is safe or
this medicine is effectivebecause you want something to be
angry about.
That's going to take work onthe individual level and that is
the least likely fucking thingto happen until there are broad,

(28:58):
scope societal levelconsequences.
Thousands of kids a year dyingfrom polio.
Got a polio vaccine.
Nobody was well.
Very few people were out theregoing don't take the vaccine.
It causes three heads andbabies.
Overwhelming number of peopletook the vaccine.
It's going to take consequences.
They're going to have to befucked over by the very people

(29:20):
who were telling them what to beafraid of and who to blame for
it enough times before theyfinally get it.
And then, most importantly, toeffectively extricate them from
that situation, you have to givethem an avenue where they don't
have to admit they were wrong.
Just let them be angry in a newdirection, otherwise it will
not work.
They will become furtherradicalized because it's their

(29:40):
identity and they would ratherdie on that hill than give that
up and say you know what?
I fucked up and I was wrong.
And that's where we're at, inmy opinion.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
I think we need.
The best way I've seen to kindof redirect people is to try and
meet them somewhere.
And so I think we all have kindof like a base.
Most of us have kind of likethese base things where you're
like, why did people take thepolio vaccine?
Because they like less illness,illness, bad, healthy, good,

(30:12):
like we want that, so I try likefor me.
Bad, healthy, good, like wewant that, so I try like for me.
I'm just like, hey, we bothwant people to be healthy, right
, okay, so instead of me likeI'm getting tired of the whole,
like, oh, this food, dye andseed oil and all this stuff, I'm
just like I'm exhausted overthis.
Instead of this, can I just canI?
Can I meet with you and say,hey, hey, hey, like 90 of
americans aren't eating enoughvegetables.
Do you agree with me?
That is not a good thing, thatmore people should be eating

(30:33):
vegetables?
Yes, you agree with me?
Good, thank you.
Oh, but what about pesticides?
Shut up.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
We're going to stick with vegetables right now.
Okay, Fruits.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Most people aren't getting enough exercise.
Do you agree with me thatexercise is good, good exercise.
Do you agree with me thatexercise is good, good, awesome,
fantastic, love that.
Where can we go from here?
Because I think together we canthen say, like how can we get
people to eat more vegetablesand and exercise more and all of
that stuff and the details?
We can argue about that shitlater.
Man, do we have to argue aboutthat now, or can we actually get

(31:06):
some work done and try and getpeople to do these things that
we all agree are important?
That's the only way I've seento get any success with trying
to meet the group.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
So many of these people are also often
criticizing things that we'renot being force-fed.
Like well, do I love Red 40?
No, do I.
Is it something where I'm gonnalike drink it by the bottle?
No, but like I can very easilyavoid red 40 I can't.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
It's in all my it's in also.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
It's all my favorite candies too.
I've got a sense.
Yeah, I just assumed drinkingred 40 was part of the american
citizenship test before you getyour uh citizenship, you got to
drink a bottle in front of themto prove you're not a cop.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
You start melting and like nope, not American, not
material, not American material.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
I've got a sensitivity to red 40.
Do I want it taken out ofeverything?
It would be cool, because thenI could have all my favorite
candies again.
Yes, but I also understand thatfor most people it's fine, Just
like if I had a peanut allergyI wouldn't lobby for peanuts.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
You just need to move to Canada because we prefer red
three instead of red 40.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
I'm allergic to coconut and that shit is in
every health food these daysbecause it's popular and it's
ubiquitous but I figure it'spretty cheap, right?

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, but it's like we can avoid any ingredient.
There's nothing that'smandatory in any diet, so it's
like pushing against thesethings and preservatives and
whatnot like.
Okay, then go ahead and thereare products at the grocery
store that you can have thatdon't have any of these things.
It's like.
My diet is exactly what I wantit to be.

(32:45):
It has everything that I wantin it and nothing that I don't
want.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
I think the through line to success may be building
on what Liam said andacknowledging what Mike
pigtailed.
What's that called?
Is it called pigtail?
No, it's not it.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Followed along, added on to piggyback.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Piggyback not fucking pigtail.
Listen, I'm only pretending tobe a human.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Okay, I like pigtail better Just go with that.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
I was just doing my hair and I got confused.
If we acknowledge the thingthat is important to the people
who are fixated on this minutiae, that may not be correct but
might be correct.
We say, okay, you're worriedabout the carcinogenic effects
of?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
whatever fake sugar, aspartame yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
You're worried about that.
Okay, that is a consideration,because you know what?
I have seen some research thatindicates that it might be an
issue.
But we have all of these, it'son the list and if we're putting
it on the list right now, it's10 out of 10, because we have 30
million kids who aren't gettingenough to eat and I just feel
like we should probably fix thatbefore we worry about this

(33:51):
thing that is affecting lessthan 1% of 1% of people.
Like, it's important, I hearyou We'll get to it Right.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
It's like acknowledge, like ifyou give them a little bit of
acknowledgement and just saylike, hey, you have concerns
over this and I hear you.
Okay, so this, could this be aproblem?
Sure, it could be a problem,but also these things are way
bigger problems.
We have to look at.
Everything is risk.
Whenever people ask me, is thissafe?
I can't tell you anything.
Like if I go to the movies, Icould get hit by a bus and die.

(34:19):
I'm still gonna go to themovies because I want to see
fucking moana 2, which I haven'tseen yet, but I'm gonna get
there eventually.
And like it's all a risk, likeeverything is a risk.
So you just have to really youhave to acknowledge the risk and
decide what is what's worth itfor you and for me.
I'm not gonna worry about thefucking uh, a microgram of uh,

(34:41):
glyphosate in my fucking oats orwhatever it is.
I'm just gonna eat my goddamnoatmeal and and enjoy it, and
not like stress out, rob you,but like if you want to come to
me and say, oh, glyphosate is anissue, fine, it possibly could
be an issue, but how about wefocus on getting people just
more nutritious foods and helpthem exercise more?

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Rob, you made a video about plastics the other day
where you talked about like if Iforget what the actual specific
chemical was, but you said like, yeah, you might have one or
two of these things in yourhouse that use this chemical,
but if it's not in everything,yeah, it's probably best to
avoid certain things, but in theamounts that you get from like

(35:20):
one appliance that has it in,like one component or whatever,
it's not to be concerned about.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yeah, and then worrying about that detracts
from the thing that you shouldactually be concerned about.
So 90% of Americans are eatingfucking vegetables, god damn it,
and I want to focus on tryingto get that, because that will
have a much bigger effect ontheir health than removing a few
plastic items they use to eattheir food with right Like come

(36:00):
on.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
The hard part, particularly with plastic.
Since we're on, plastic is, andnot to get too political, but
oh it's too late for that.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Fucking Mike, bust out your Trump impression.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
We're already in it Not to get too political, but
I've got the smallestmicroplastics in my balls.
The smallest microplasticsyou've ever seen.
They were the largest ones thatwould fit, oh shit.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Please, rob, please continue Like we're worried
about the microplastics in ourdiet and not using plastic
containers and, yeah, all theseplastic cutting boards and stuff
, and we're doing absolutelynothing about reducing the
amount of overall plastic usethat we are doing as humans and

(36:50):
we keep voting in governmentofficials that have ties to the
oil and gas industry that profitoff of all of this plastic,
because that's where the moneycomes from.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Like they're getting.
You're gonna vote for someonelike if you're a politician, you
need fucking money to run acampaign, so you're going to
take money from oil, from gas,from big plastic, whatever, to
get elected.
So it's like what do you?
It does?
I understand why people justget hopeless like, oh well, fuck
it.
What's the point?
You know?

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I like how a lot of those wellness influencers they
will say follow the money, butthey never actually follow
through.
They just assume the money wentto this person that they don't
like.
No, but but if you look at,especially when you look at
doctors and stuff, they'realways like okay, this doctor I
don't like is making money offpharma, but you can go to

(37:40):
opendoctorscom and see they madeabsolutely no money, while this
other one that's selling a crapton of supplements is making
bank selling a crap ton ofsupplements is making bank, but
when people levy that chargeagainst people, it is never
about whether or not they arecorrect.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Every time that is done, it is simply to cast a
shadow of doubt on thecredibility of the person.
Oh, you only think that youshould take this medication for
heart disease that's beenapproved and shown effective in
93% of the people because you'retaking money from big pharma.
They don't care if it's true.

(38:16):
Not one time has somebody beencorrected by a video and they've
come back and said oh, I waswrong, I'm sorry.
I accused you of that Not onetime because it was about
discrediting that person,because it isn't about the truth
Personal attacks work.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
It's about being right.
Going back to Americans thinkthe entire world works the way
they do.
I love when they do that toanybody that works outside of
America.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
And we're just like we have socialized medicine.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
We don't work that way.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
So that's the third time you've brought up that
misconception and, rob, at thispoint I just got to correct you.
The rest of the world doesthink the same way that we do,
and they're just not as good atoperating the way that we do.
It isn't that they do itdifferently by choice.
That'd be stupid.
No, they're just not goodenough to do it our way yet.

(39:10):
But I have faith.
I have belief they're going tocome along, they're going to
figure it out.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Gotcha and everybody speaks English.
But just to piss us off, theylike make up other languages Bro
.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
I have met.
Well, they were service members, so I have met real people who
really truly thought that otherpeople's internal monologue is
in English and they translate itto whatever language they're
speaking.
I love that.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Multiple times.
I'm exhausted.
Guys.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
That's a thing, Exhaustion is a fair it's a very
fair feeling and, I think, 2025is going to have a lot of it.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
I was just thinking that?

Speaker 2 (39:49):
yeah, one of the common themes of 2025 is we're
all going to be.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
I didn't expect this to be my job.
I'm feeling really optimistic.
I don't think any of usexpected this to be our jobs.
Doing what we do.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
It's so interesting that this is the path that life
has taken and the task thatwe've been given I think, I mean
I, I that this is that's whythis year I I have to lean just
more.
Like that's why I've gone moreinto like the comedy aspect of
it, because I have to laugh.
If I don't laugh I'll fuckingcry, because it's it's.
It's just what else do you do,man?

(40:25):
Like I'm just gonna try andhave fun with it and give like
real realistic ways for help forpeople to, just because every
time I meet someone like inperson who like recognize me,
like I, I'm really glad you justkeep it realistic and I'm like
that's because that's whatyou'll be able to fucking follow
, not all this other shit, right?
So let's just laugh at all ofthe fucking seed oil bullshit or

(40:47):
whatever.
Like we gotta have fun with it.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
I've started taking out my frustration using an axe
on food.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
That's been pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
I saw that that works .
It does work.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Should we invest in those break rooms where you just
go into a room and break shit abunch of stuff.
There we go.
I feel like that would bepretty profitable.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
I got this because of your food prep, this thing
rocks through veggies likenobody's business.
Look, I don't know what it'scalled.
I just know the sound it makeswhen it takes a man's life Right
, exactly.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Mike's like oh wait, let me order one, I'm going to
go get my blade, I'm going toget a kitchen knife.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
He's going to get a fucking chef's knife.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
That is a kitchen knife.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
He's gonna get a fucking chef's knife.
That is a kitchen knife.
Look, meat is meat, okay, ohyeah.
Well, I have a biggie smallsfunko pop.
He's even got a little fuckingcane and a crown shit.
I I can't beat wait.
I saw this and I was like I am100 getting biggie smalls funko
pop I have a limited editionstanley that's really cool,
excelsior, motherfucker I likethat, that's good.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Now I'm trying to look like do I have anything
cool?

Speaker 4 (41:56):
your whole setup is cool.
The rest of us are fuckingrooms.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Man no I'm just in my messy ass fucking room yeah,
any other trends you guys seecoming for 2025, just because
this is the time to throw it outthere so you can come back and
be like, yeah, I called thatshit.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
You know what I'm saying uh, unfortunately, I see
stuff like thigh gaps and beingum cocaine chic, or is it heroin
chic or cocaine?

Speaker 1 (42:19):
chic, ozempic chic.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
No, it's heroin yeah, well, being ridiculously thin,
you think that's yes.
Um, I've seen it Well again.
I work at a high school, so Isee a lot of what the kids are
gravitating towards the kids whoare about to cross the
threshold into being adults,what they're going to be
bringing with them?
Um, and unfortunately, theunrepentant sort of mindless

(42:45):
greed is good from the earlyeighties that I remember all too
vividlyly uh, that kind ofattitude is also making a strong
comeback.
Um, the haves, the have-notsyou have not because you deserve
not, kind of implicit uhfeeling, and I think that's kind
of gross.
Yeah, and I'm very worriedabout it because that's what

(43:06):
people suffer.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
That's when vulnerable people suffer is when
you lose compassion and empathyfor others do you think, oh
because now I think okay, okay,because technology advancing,
right, we're starting.
Now we're getting ozempic, youknow these different uh drugs
that are helping people loseweight like I.
I think it's only going toimprove, right.
We're only going to get moredrugs to that.
Help people, you know, loseweight.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Um, better ones as time goes on but like assuming
rfk doesn't take away all thefunding for that fair um, but
I'm kind of curious, I'm curious.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Companies will just do it the future is with this?

Speaker 3 (43:40):
because I mean, um, you know, are people going to be
?
Is this going to be somethingthat's going to be abused as is?
Are we going to put morefunding into that less is going?
It's going to go abused.
Are we going to put morefunding into that Less is going,
it's going to go elsewhere?
I'm just kind of I'm curiouswhat's going to happen with the
future of weight loss drugs,specifically that.
Yeah, I'm curious what happensthis next?

Speaker 4 (44:02):
year.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
I'm going to be interested, I'm very interested
in what happens, what we'regoing to see over the next
several years is massive leaps.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
What we're going to see over the next several years
is massive leaps.
One of the first majorobstacles that something like
this has to overcome is likeViagra had to overcome was the
perception.
Oh, I don't want to be the guythat has to take the pill.
Now we've got 50 Cent going.
I took the pill.
I wanted her not to forget.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
I didn't give her a pill, so she would forget.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
I took a pill so she wouldn't forget.
Like that kind of thing, it'sacceptance right.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
So do you think we're going to get more of that with
Ozempic and Majora and all these?

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Ozempic has created the acceptance and it's created
a demand.
So one of the drawbacks of itonly going to people who can
afford it is that demanddramatically increased because
awareness increased.
There's a lot of people thatare suffering from the
difficulties in their life, bothsocially and physically, that
come with living in a largerbody.
I have a positively receivedbody fat percentage.

(45:07):
I am 270 pounds in the way thatpeople want to be 270 pounds.
However, my knees hurt, myankles hurt, my back hurts.
Uh, it is a big strain on myheart.
It takes much less for me torun out of gas than somebody
else.
Can I punch my hand through abuick door?
Sure, how often is that useful?

(45:29):
Just the one time, all the time.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Oh no, okay, I took you for a bad guess.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
Like because it has become the demand has increased
because of the controversy andalso because it's become seen as
much more acceptable.
I'm regularly having clientstell me yeah, I'm starting
Ozempic.
Yeah, I'm starting.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
I can't remember what the name of the other one is,
the GLP one, manjaro.
There's Ozempic.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
One that starts with a.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Wegovy is the same thing as Ozempic.
It's just the one that'sapproved for weight loss.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
So we're going to see rapid iteration of those things
because, to meet demand, othercompanies are going to want to
be able to make it for cheaperso that they can have the market
share.
That's when we get the majoradvancements.
The reason that we haven't hadnot that I'm saying we should,
but the reason we haven't hadmajor advancements in steroids
is because they were Schedule Idrugs.

(46:24):
They were seen socially asunacceptable and that drove
demand down, so iterationimmediately stopped.
I think the last thing theydeveloped was mint.
That was a while ago.
Now it's SARM, cerm, peptidesthe whole nine yards.
Because they're more acceptable, because they're easier to get

(46:47):
a hold of.
People are filling that demandand that's why these things are
being iterated on.
That's why they're easier toget a hold of.
So people are filling thatdemand and that's why these
things are being iterated on.
That's why they're beingcreated.
So that's how I see a lot moreof these drugs.
I see them a lot cheaper, butit's still going to be the
people with influence and moneyare going to get the good stuff

(47:07):
with the lowest amount of sideeffects most consistently.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
This is something I've already seen and it's
already happening.
I'm just going to say there'sgoing to be like an uptick.
I've already seen a lot of thehere's Nature's Ozempic oh God,
we're spot on.
We're going to see, like I'veseen, everything from
supplements like people areselling this makes your waist go
and all these different things.
Uh, tea is nature's meal thisis nature's epic.

(47:33):
Oh yeah, oh yeah oh yeah, it wascalled oat zempic, so you
blended up oats and water andmaybe like cinnamon or something
for blood sugars, whatever.
Who knows?
And like you know that wassupposed to, you know you make
you lose a bunch of weight andit's like, yeah, you swap out
your normal breakfast theydiscovered sausage patties.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
They just figured out how to be full.
That's it like it's.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
It's not a hack, but like okay, okay here this is
what I brought up in my videoswhat I brought up my videos,
though, is like I'm like I don'twant to be okay, but I kind of
have.
I feel like I need to be okaywith it a little bit, because,
like, hey, this gets people toget eat oats, is calling it oz
epic stupid.
Of course it is, it's very dumb, but like it's gonna, people

(48:17):
are gonna hear that and they'regonna be more interested in
consuming oats, which you knowwill generally have positive
effects on their health.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
As long as that, well , I'd eat peasant oats.
Uh, as long as they are notbeing disingenuous with the
claims, if they talk about howcinnamon can help control your
blood sugar which it can, yeah,to what effect and they're being
reasonable with the claims,it's fine.
It's no different than that.
What's that water company?
It's like liquid death.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Yeah, murder your thirst, it's not killing you.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
It's not murdering anything.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Don't anything don't be, ridiculous.
You know thirst mutilator.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Sorry, that's brondo as long as it remains the end.
It's what plants crave it'swhat plants good electrolytes.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
If we could just keep it to be like the the, here
comes the plane of weight loss,then like, yeah, so but like the
claims, but but, but think, butlisten, but listen, but listen.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
the no video is gonna go fucking viral if someone be
like, hey, oats may help youlose weight because they have
fiber and this, and you couldmaybe lose a little bit of
weight over a long period.
Fuck that shit.
No, you, they need to be.
The oats epic became a thingbecause you were supposed to
lose like 30 pounds in a monthor something fucking
astronomically stupid and solike.
But it has to be like that inorder to fucking get people's

(49:28):
attention.
And that sucks, and I get thatit sucks, but like that's the
only way to like reach peopleand that's like, yeah, it's
lying and I hate that.
But like part of me is justlike all right, fuck it, we're
eating oats, at least let's go.
I'm sad, but like I've kind ofgotten to the point where I just
have to be like all right, sure, it's oats.
If when people start saying eatlike fucking snake venom

(49:50):
because it'll help you loseweight, then I have to step in
and be like okay, no, snakevenom, bad idea, oats.
Let's go back to oats, even ifthe claims I'm pretty sure I
know that guy too,

Speaker 1 (49:58):
this is the equivalent of wrapping a pill in
a slice of cheese.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Low-fat cheese but like, okay, so like, I think
we're gonna see a lot more likethis.
Is this, this, like thissupplement is the Ozempic,
without all the side effects orthe price?
You're going to see a ton ofthat shit.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
You're 100% correct Right, given the anti-regulation
, anti-oversight sentiment ofthe last decade.
All of that wraps togetherbasically everything we've
talked about today.
It is pushing towards the wildwild west of supplements and bad
solutions and bad informationreturning yeah, and without any,

(50:39):
with less fact checking.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
It's just it's gonna fucking snowball, yeah.
So, like the question is, howdo you fight that?
I don't have a great answer forit, but I'm gonna laugh and try
to have some humor and try anddirect people towards you.
Uh, reasonable things they canchange.
That's like.
That's all I got.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
At this fucking junction I'm actually working on
like as, as best I can, anunbiased guide of like.
How can you tell whatinformation is is helpful and
what information is unhelpful?

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Okay, so give people the tools to figure it out, yeah
, so like give them.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Here are some things that you can look at to
determine, like is thissomething that is going to be
particularly helpful for me, oris this something that somebody
is just trying to sell somethingto me?

Speaker 3 (51:26):
This is a sales pitch .

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Yeah.
So, like you know, obviously wewant to look out for, like
people that are using scaretactics and trying to make you
feel bad, but if their content,like constantly speaks down on
either you or modern medicine orscience or something like that,
just constantly making claimslike the establishment is

(51:48):
against you and this is againstyou and this is against you and
this is wrong and this is bad,like okay, how about we start
with what's good?

Speaker 4 (51:55):
can I make a recommendation to you, since
you're coming up?
Yeah sure, this is all draft,by the way, so this isn't set in
stone, of course there is agreat video to watch on how
people succeed at doing thatfrom a friend of mine, zach
talender.
Uh, so zach talender and youlook up the word charlatan he
talks about.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Oh, I think I know the video you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
It's a great video, he talks about the specific
methodology that they use andthey leverage.
And Zach himself, he didn'thave a lot, of, a lot of answers
on how to combat that, but Ithink, if armed with a specific
articulation of how they do it,I think that you would be, you'd
be inspired to come up withsolutions on how to counter it.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
It's a really good video?
I think no, that's a great idea.
Giving people the tools.
I love it.
Getting that information out topeople.
Cause, listen, I get tagged inlike a ton of shit.
Like people tag me all the timeI will get okay One video.
I get tagged in like a ton ofshit.
Like people tag me all the time, I will get okay one video.
I get tagged someone sayingsome extraordinary claim about
how the government is is istrying to suppress this

(52:58):
information and you need thesupplement 10 million views
easily.
Uh, the.
The next video is someone tryingto uh point out to you like how
people use scare tactics 10views it's.
It's not even fucking in thesame ballpark, you know.
Like getting that informationout to people is so hard and I
don't know how to do it.
So like, as of right now, theonly thing that really seems to

(53:21):
work is like humor is justjoking and having fun and like
giving people a laugh becausethey need that.
I get so many comments frompeople like I need this laugh,
like it's just so much and I Ineed that.
Like how can I wrap thisinformation in a piece of cheese
for you?
I need?
Like you won't take the pillyourself, so I need to wrap this
up in a piece of cheese orbacon or like.

(53:41):
Maybe you're vegan, so it'slike nutritional yeast.
I don't fucking know, like I'mso it needs to be in maple syrup
maple syrup syrup.
That's vegan Maple syrup.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
You can see the pill at the bottom of the thing where
you're like, fuck it, it's goodsyrup.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
It's in a spoon, we just got to feed it.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
It sounds like what you're looking for is how can I
do this so that it can beresolved?
And there's the misinformationright.
So how can we communicate thisin a way that solves the
misinformation?

Speaker 3 (54:13):
I don't know if I'm going with solves.
I don't think we'll ever solveit.
I don't think I don't know ifit's solvable, at least in our
current state.
But I want to know, like, howcan I just reach more people
with it?
Because, like these things,this information is great.
But, like we all know,misinformation travels so much
faster and so much further thanactually good information how

(54:34):
can you make it on social mediacurrently what has proven
successful?

Speaker 4 (54:38):
the most successful of the four of us?
You are by far and away, liamthe most successful at doing
this because you put the mosteffort into it.
You can't just it's what wewere talking about earlier you
can't just combat theinformation right.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
You can't just do the um actually, like if I sit here
and just go um, actually that'sfucking going nowhere.
You know what I'm saying?
You have to showcase them.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
you have to wrap it in humor, you have to push back
against the point, yes, and youhave to play with that same
mechanism that motivates all ofthe people on the other side to
believe it, to get all of thepeople who are other side to
believe it, to get all of thepeople who are inclined to
believe it on your side andcould be persuaded to believe it
.
That's actually the smallportion, that's the victory
bringing a few people over at atime.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
That's the fight.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
The fight never stops .
It has been going on forever.
The only reason it seems sohard and so bad now is because
we have more access toinformation than ever before and
we feel like there's lessexcuse for people to be this
misled.
But they still going togravitate towards the
information they want to be true, or they are afraid to be true.
So you need to keep fightingthe fights you can win and keep

(55:47):
fighting the fights that needfighting until you die and pass
this on to other people.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
It's pretty much.
It's never going to stop.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Yeah, I'm going to have to pass it on.
I'm sorry that I've handed thisburden down on you, I'll hand
her the channel someday.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Here's my social media as I hand over my phone.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
This is my account with my password.
Do your best until you die andhand it out to someone else
generational social mediaaccounts.
That's wild, because like I likemike, like I love that idea of
just giving people the tools andstuff like that, but it's it's,
it's, it's man, it's just sotough to just like.
I think that for a little whilethere I saw like kind of like

(56:26):
dr idds you know he, so he'sstill kind of one of the bigger
like debunkers but like for awhile he was doing really well
and I think kind of like thatdebunking style was in, and then
it just kind of faded andpeople didn't care about it as
much, and so like now I'm likehow can I still get people into
like understanding that this isnonsense?

Speaker 2 (56:44):
um, I I, yeah, I'm just you know.
What else I think helps isworking together because, like,
even if you can't give peoplethe solution, you're at least
providing the path for them togravitate this way, and then you
can pass that on to somebodyelse and gradually move them

(57:05):
down that road gradually movethem down that road.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
That I definitely agree.
I think I mean it's gonna takelike as many people as possible,
like all working together justto do whatever little we can.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
Yeah it's just so.
You're saying friendship ismagic friendship is magic.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Oh shit, which one's best?

Speaker 3 (57:23):
pony oh, best pony, I was going with fuck.
What's that?
Like that old kid show wherethey all have like the ring and
they're like and it's like earthcaptain planet, captain planet,
what's my other?
Powers combined.
One of them is just like loveor something weird like heart
yeah, heart, heart it's a littleindian kid yeah, love it which

(57:44):
pony do they have in the jar ofraw milk?

Speaker 1 (57:46):
the one that has tuberculosis it's like you know,
as soon as you make a statementabout anything specific, it
turns people off.
So I'm like you know, why don'tI figure out a framework of
like generally speaking, it'snot going to get everything, but
if you don't know what tolisten to on social media, if

(58:06):
something's making you veryscared, it's probably trying to
funnel you towards a product.
So that's something that issafe to ignore aside from
politics, of course, becausethat shit's always scary.
But when it comes to health,like if the person is trying to
scare you out of everything,it's like I don't know.

(58:27):
Let's maybe take a look intowhy.
To follow the money, as theylike to say.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
I've seen Hank Green has made several videos talking
about this.
We do nutrition, but all sortsof fucking anything that's the
tale as old as time Just makepeople scared and scapegoat
something or someone and that'sit.
But getting that information topeople is just tough.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
I feel like no reach is rough right now.
Trying to get to anybody withlike honest information is is
that's what I it's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
I think the trend we're gonna see is that's going
to be more fucking difficult andyeah particularly since it's
being rewarded, right, yeah,it's going to be the hardest
time combating misinformationsince certain religious
organizations controlled thegovernment and controlled their
countries and their states, andwe saw a level of misinformation

(59:24):
that completely and utterlysubjugated the people until,
once again, the consequencesbecame so high that they pushed
back.
We saw it with Catholic Church.
We saw it with several groupsaround the world, the religious
princes of Machiavelli's time.
We saw it with the deificationof the shoguns in Japan.

(59:47):
Like it isn't, until thingsbecome so bad for everyone,
right.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
That something is done about it.
Yeah, and it's usually on theother yeah, and it's usually
you're saying wellness is areligion depending on who you
ask.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
I mean talk to, uh, yeah mr not approved.
You know, that's a whole thingbut man, I missed that reference
oh, there's a, there's a coupleof, uh, well-known influencers
that I mean, like we'll talkabout the carnivores.
That's starting to feel like areligion in itself.
But I I'll say this um upon the, the notion that the government

(01:00:26):
doesn't want you to knowsomething in a video with 20
million views on it, yeah, yeahif the government didn't want
you to know that, they would getit taken down.
The government owns all themedia sites.
It like they.
They've got their hands in thepockets of every social media.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
They can whatever they don't mind it's more like
the media sites own thegovernment yeah, I mean
ultimately yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
So that's more correct to say uh, yeah, it's if
a video has 20 million views onit.
It's not secret informationthat the government's like fuck
this got out, how'd this get out?

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Like, and it's not just like we talk about
nutrition and fitness.
I was watching many, many, manyminute men like this guy.
He does like debunking on likeof shit, like what's it?
Brain's not working right now,but like people talking about
like dinosaurs didn't exist andshit, and like the the pyramids
conspiracy conspiracy, no, it'smore like you know, like

(01:01:23):
pyramids are, are, are uh, likepower plants and like there used
to be giants, like that sort ofstuff, like there used to be
giants for that sort of stuff.
Right, I've seen a lot of dothat and like there's people
that like make these videos.
They're like well, I gotta getout of here before like the
government comes to get me.
Like you know, all this shitlike it's, yeah, it's, it's all
over the top of ridiculous.
But if they get millions ofviews talking about how, yeah,

(01:01:46):
the pyramids are fucking powerplants and the and the aliens
have like use it as like rays todo things or whatever, like
it's, it's, it's true of so manythings and I it's.
The thing is, like peoplelistening to a podcast like this
, they already know, theyalready know that's nonsense,
right.
So, like you know, talking likethis, how much does it help?
Probably not too much.

(01:02:07):
So it's kind of sad.
But like, how do you reachthose other people you know?
Um, that's, that's gonna be.
I guess you'd have a new year'sresolution.
All right, that's gonna be.
That's fucking mine.
Try and reach as many as I can,which probably won't be that
many, but I'll do whatever I can.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
That's all you can do .
Yeah, I think you've got toadopt a stoic mentality about it
, liam, because there's shit youcan control and influence and
there's shit you can't, and youreally got to be able to put the
stuff that you have no controlor influence over in a box, and
not worry about it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
It's actually.
I was looking out there.
I thought I had the daily stoke.
I've got in the other room.
I'm reaching daily stoke, yeah,yeah I, I, it's, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
I'm 46, um.
I've seen a lot of shit.
I worked anti-narcotics,anti-human trafficking, uh.
Worked at the nsa, I worked atblizzard entertainment, I.
I have seen massive, differentkinds of life, right.
I've been to some very, very,very poor countries, um, and
enforced political policy abroad, because that's what marines do

(01:03:06):
, right.
Uh, these are timeless problemsthat are so much bigger than us
and you have to find the valuein the people that you can help.
So I'm right now and I'm alittle bit raw about it, so I
apologize for just kind ofbringing this up.
I feel compelled to share and Idon't know that it's a good

(01:03:28):
idea?
I don't, but we're going to findout.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
I just cut it later.
This is not.
We're not airing any of thisSweet.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
What does REC mean?
It's flashing at me.
I recently started an intensivecritical care program for PTSD
recovery through exposure.
No medication, no, justexposure to the traumas and
understanding that there arethings that you can control and

(01:03:58):
things that you can't.
And true acceptance of that hasbeen a really important part in
getting through this initialphase.
It's going to be six months.
Things are going to get wayworse before they get better.
But one of the things that cameup is I have a lot of guilt
about the things that I didn'tdo, the things that I feel like
in retrospect I should have done, should have said, should have

(01:04:19):
stopped, and that's about asspecific as I'll be.
But an enormous amount of guilt.
And it came out that one of thereasons that I hold onto that
guilt is because I feel like I'mthe last person that cares and
if I stop caring and if I stopsuffering, nobody is paying for
it.
So she made me sit there andcome up with a good thing that I
had done, and it surprised methe thing that came to mind that

(01:04:41):
I did not value as much as thethings that I couldn't control,
couldn't go back in time and fixand could do nothing now to
change the effects that havecome from what I didn't do and
what I didn't say.
It was a 15 year old girl in2015, when I transferred from
Blizzard California to BlizzardTexas, that we saw while I was

(01:05:01):
staying in temporary housing ontop of a garage and she looked
like she was going to jump.
I ran up there, I talked to her, I pulled her off that ledge as
she tried to jump and we savedher life.
I brought her downstairs.
We got her the help she needed.
She graduated college a yearand a half ago.
She's now 24 years old, goodkid.
Her name is Heather.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
I have never.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
If, by some chance, you're watching this kid, I'm
proud of you.
I have, and it may be hard forher to hear this Now.
I feel bad for saying it.
I have never felt good aboutthat and we've come to the
realization.
I felt like I didn't deserve tobe the one that did that
because of the bad things that Idid.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
That's immediately how I heard that.
When you said that Cause I know, like the, the perception that
you're like I'm going to saythis and this is how it's going
to be heard when you said thatit, it triggered the same
response in my head of like whyshould it have been me?

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
I'm not, I'm nobody Right, nobody right right, and I
expressed that multiple times,uh, in the few times that I have
shared the story anywhere onsocial media years ago.
The thing is is that I can'tcontrol any of that, but it is
an objective, fucking fact thata person is alive because I
decided to act and not to lookthe other way, and that one life

(01:06:13):
has to be enough to mattercompared to all of the others.
It has to.
So that's what we do, not toget too heavy handed with it,
guys, and I'm sorry if we gettoo heavy handed.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
No, it's good.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
That's why it matters to have these conversations.
That's why it matters what youdo, liam.
That's why it matters that youkeep fucking going, despite the
weight of the world.
Rob, I know you are worn down,yeah, you are worn down.
Yeah, but you're needed.
Your fucking shield arm andsword arm are needed.
We cannot afford to lose you.
Excuse me, axe arm yeah, I'veseen your axe.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Let's just because we have to try four times hard.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Don't make me get the big axe out, I think you should
get the big axe out okay, getthe big axe out, that's the oh
brother.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
We have different definitions of big.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
It's supposed to be a Canadian thing.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
That's what you get for measuring in centimeters.
Oh damn.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Yeah, no, Kevin, I resonate with that a whole lot.
I mean, I've not been on a roofother than for doing it to
myself, which is, yep, I don'thave one, but I wish I did.
I should have two of them atthis point.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
For those listening, he just showed off a Seneca
tattoo, Right right, oh right, Iforgot.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
Some people are just listening.
I've listened to the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
I've never seen the video, but I've heard so many.
Yeah, sorry for those of youjust audio listening, but yeah,
I like I've received messages asI'm sure Rob and Liam, you both
have as well at this point frompeople that are like you.
Something you said like helpedme out or saved me, or which I

(01:07:56):
don't feel like I deserve it,because I just came on and made
a minute long video where Italked about my feelings.
But for somebody out there,that was either permission for
them to feel or validation forthe things that they are feeling
, and just that moment ofrelating to someone was enough
to at least compel them to sayyou've made an impact today.

(01:08:17):
And, yeah, there's a majorimposter syndrome in that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
I was that specifically was going to call
out that it triggers impostersyndrome feelings.
Yeah, because you didn't meanto have that effect.
You didn't, you weren't aware,it wasn't your intent, it wasn't
planned.
I'm glad that it happened, butI always have to fight that
feeling as well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Now a somber moment of silence as we call the
overarching point though, andget ready for 2025.

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
I feel positive, man.
I feel this is going to be agood year.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
I hope it is On the topic of the podcast and how you
know it might not reach theother people.
One thing I do want to do isbring Brendan back on, because
he's one of the few people thatwill actually sit down and
engage with us.
That is from the other side ofthe grocery aisle.
And I think that helps ishaving that, that discourse,

(01:09:13):
being able to have that dialoguewith somebody from the other
side.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
An ambassador having that, that discourse, being able
to have that dialogue withsomebody from the other side, an
ambassador.
Yeah, I I gotta say I I'm I'mnot a fan of any of those videos
I've seen.
Quite honestly and right like I, I totally get it.
I think it's just about tryingto reach other people, though
and meeting someone yeah,because you're not gonna like
when you meet in the middle,you're not gonna be happy and
perfectly happy with where youmeet, but I have to be okay with
that and just be like okay solike maybe I don't believe in
this and that but thisinformation could be useful.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Yeah, and, like I said, he is one of the only
people that is actually willingto sit down and talk I respect
that a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
When I saw that he was on the podcast, the one time
I'm like is this gonna be asmackdown or like what's about
to happen here?
Because scream.

Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
Imagine liam's tearing his shirt off seed oils
just yeah, I'll see myself inthem but it's.
Do I have cancer yet?
Yeah, no, but my skin is sosoft I mean that's another
example of like it's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
I mean, some of his things aren't necessarily
extreme.
It's like just eat whole foodsand such but that's what most of
it is.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
it's just like eat more whole foods and exercise
and sleep and like listen, wecan agree on that shit.
Yes, we're going to disagree onlike some fucking small things,
but like what?
Honestly, just whatever.
At this point that's how I feelit's just is.
But like a lot of the timeswith the discourse, it's like
what is that the middle groundor whatever they bring on, like
fat versus fit or whatever theyjust bring on the most extreme

(01:10:45):
people to yell at each other andI'm like I really don't think
that helps.
Talk about all those.
Jubilee series where they justlike yeah the Jubilee, yeah you
know we need to figure out ifwe're going to take the Santa
Cruz method.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
The thing that we're going to have to figure out to
get our message over there is,like what can we do to like
stand outside of a McDonald'sand hand $20 bills to people to
not go inside, but our versionof it for our information.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Our version of that?

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
What can we hand $20 bills out for?
To get that virality?

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Listen, we don't have Santa Cruz money.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
We can't just be handing money out like that.
We've got to start selling beef, tallow and shit for $120 a
month we're going to have to getsponsors and shit.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
So, speaking from a social dynamic standpoint and
the way that social media workson people, the most effective
thing that you can do is to havesomething that they want and
then they will listen to you.
That is either influence,attention, money, physique
success, having achieved thegoal that they want.

(01:11:52):
When you do those things, whenyou're struggling if you've
built enough.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
I will end you.
That's all I've got.
I don't have anything else.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
But no, I I get that you lost 110 pounds and you kept
it off, so there's an entiregroup of people that will listen
to you for no other reason thanyou have achieved.
What they think and feel tothis point is impossible.
He did it.
He looks like a relatable guy.
He looks like somebody I couldknow I could be him.
I get less of that.
I had no control over beingborn six foot three, fucking,

(01:12:25):
just a large human being thatresponds well like, with amazing
hair.
For the record, jason momoatook my look.
I had this first before he waschosen for Aquaman and Troy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
Polamalu took my look .

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
We are the same height.
I just look like a tall, sicklychild.

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
So, like I am less relatable to people, so the way
that I reach them is despite thefact that I have these
sociological advantages of beingconventionally attractive,
being tall, having a deep voice,being big and strong.
Nobody gives a shit about that.
If I was a douche nozzle and Iwasn't self-aware, if I wasn't
able to articulate my points, ifI wasn't willing to stick up

(01:13:03):
for people who didn't think orlook like me, nobody would find
what I have to say valuable.
It's the way that I comportmyself that draws people to me,
not the things that they thinkthey want, that they obviously
can't.
If you're five foot five,you're not going to be six foot
three, unless you're 14, there'sstill hope.
But like so that I can't reachpeople with those things.
All I can reach them with is myversion of healthy masculinity

(01:13:28):
and self-awareness,self-development.
So that's what I choose.
What you have as a successstory, what Rob has, is
perseverance over considerablechallenges and you have achieved
a physique that so many peoplewant.
When you were on yourbodybuilding kick, that's when
the most of the people weregravitating and they were

(01:13:48):
listening, not because your bodywas the most valuable thing you
had to offer, but it's thethings that they wanted.
That made them listen.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
And listen and even if you don't have much, like I
made it with nothing but amassive dong, like that's it and
you can.
That just shows you that youcan reach anybody with your
massive dong maybe depending onwhere they are.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
You had him using Canadian measurements and now
this man is wildly misled.
I remember the first time I wason he held his fingers this far
apart and he said about sixinches.
I know this fool has no fuckingidea.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
It's so much better to say 20 centimeters.

Speaker 4 (01:14:27):
I'm going to give you the foot long.
What's that this?

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
Start measuring in millimeters.

Speaker 4 (01:14:34):
And for those listening at home, I did not
hold my fingers very far apart.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
For those at home.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
It did not hold my fingers very far For those at
home.
It's a fish story.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
It starts out this big and then it gets this big,
and then it gets this big.
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Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
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Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
They're still measuring in feet.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
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Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
I'm going to teach a class about this here shortly.
It's just a three day longwebinar where I Listen.

Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
I'm going to launch a supplement company and it's
going to day long webinar whereI listen.
I'm I'm gonna launch asupplement company and it's it's
gonna be horse cock and I'mgonna tell it to you that shit
in the tiktok shop.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
You fucking got a wedding right there, we'll call
it pea shred let's get scottagain on this penis somatotypes.
Is it an ectomorph?

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
no, no, no, no.
It's got to be like ictomorphbecause it's gross.
Massomorph because it's justlike a Liam-sized dong, you know
at least 19 millimeters.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Bendomorph if it's got a curve, oh no.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
It's not going to be three, there's going to be like
12 of them, one for every inch.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
But it's okay because , rob, you can make a mod to
subclass Right.
I can make a mod for anything,don't worry, you can make a mod
to subclass your penis type.
Anyway, what an interestingthing for this to.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
And if we don't end there, there's nowhere we're
going to end.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
We're going to go back.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
No, you have to end on fucking horse let's predict
2026.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
What's gonna happen then?

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
dude, that is optimistic, you know, talking
like we're gonna make it to 2026after.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
Well, if the supplement company gets off the
ground, everybody's gonna bewalking around with a horse dog
listen, I'm just saying if weget like two in the weeds and it
goes, and which just it becomestoo much, we just go fucking
horse cock.
That's what we do.
We start fucking selling it andwe start making money Throwing
it out there Right up there withalpha water.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
We'll be able to sell it on TikTok if we just spell
it C-H at the end.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Yeah, we'll do it.
K-o-c-h.
We'll figure it out.

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
It'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Thank you everybody for joining us for another
episode of Don't be your worstand give us.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
What was that tagline ?
What was our tagline?

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
I don't remember what did I say it was the K-bye.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
You were just supposed to say K-bye.
What the fuck?
You had one job.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
Listen, mike.
We gave you a plan.
Okay, I needed it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
All I needed was a K-bye.

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