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November 27, 2025 39 mins

What if Thanksgiving didn’t come with a side of guilt? We dive into a saner way to handle the holiday table, where a single boundary—don’t leave the table sick—does more for your well-being than any frantic plan to “burn off” your meal the next day. Along the way, we get delightfully opinionated about dry turkey, mid stuffing, and the eternal debate over mashed potatoes, while keeping the focus on what matters most: people, presence, and peace of mind.

We unpack why the scale often jumps after big meals and why it’s not fat gain. Think sodium, water retention, extra food mass, and a temporary carb bump. Give it a few days of normal eating, sleep, and easy movement, and that number drifts back without punishment workouts or crash resets. We also call out the holiday procrastination spiral—Thanksgiving, then Christmas, then New Year’s—and show how to enjoy the day and still keep your momentum. A simple plate approach can help if you like structure, but conversation makes the best portion control: eat slower, ask questions, listen, and you’ll naturally hit “enough” without counting a single gram.

Beyond tactics, we open up about the mindset shifts that make maintenance stick. The real work isn’t just swapping recipes; it’s addressing why food became a coping tool in the first place. That’s where community and coaching shine—helping you replace all-or-nothing thinking with flexible habits you can trust. Laugh with us through the hot takes, keep the plate you love, and leave the table feeling good, not guilty.

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SPEAKER_00 (00:36):
Welcome to Mouth Kiss Between Friends.

SPEAKER_01 (00:39):
Oh, I like this show way better than what we normally
do.
It might be a little tough sincewe're all in different states or
countries, but we'll make itwork.

SPEAKER_00 (00:48):
Well, unless we'll be a state of you guys sooner or
later, right?
Speak of states, the DeLorean.

SPEAKER_01 (00:55):
No.
Um the freaking, yeah, Rob'salways talking about the
all-dressed chips.
Got these from Lay's.
You guys gotta pick these up,man.
They are good.
I haven't had them in a while.
I have had them before, but Iforgot.
They're like ketchup y, butgood.
Not just like pure ketchup.
It's like they reined in theketchup enough, and there's

(01:15):
something, and there's enough ofthe other things in there, and
it's really good.

SPEAKER_02 (01:19):
It's not quite barbecue, it's not quite
ketchup, it's it's some kind ofmarriage between the two with
some extra Canadian magic inthere.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28):
Because I'm tired of like sour cream and onion and
what's the what are the otherones they're always?
Salt and vinegar.
Salt and vinegar.

SPEAKER_02 (01:35):
Like it's good, but maybe there's always a cool
ranch.
Give us some novelty.
And something we haven't seen.
You know, Prinkles just came outwith a hickory smoked bacon
flavor, which I've not triedyet.

SPEAKER_01 (01:48):
I'm not weary of bacon because people fuck it up
too easily.
You ever eat something withbacon flavor, and you're like,
what were you doing?
Who told you what bacon tasteslike?

SPEAKER_02 (01:59):
Like turkey bacon, for example.
Speaking of turkey, yes.
Oh, solid segue right there.
Um, smooth.
Liam, there's a scandal afoot.

SPEAKER_01 (02:11):
There's a sc there's many scandals afoot.
Which one are we discussingright now?

SPEAKER_02 (02:15):
Uh, this one I've not brought up with you yet.
I wanted to wait until I saw youin uh digital person.
Let me well, I mean, she told meshe wouldn't share those
pictures with anyone, but allright, go ahead.
Well, I just want to commendyour performance in those
pictures, but we'll get to thata different time.
So you see this picture righthere.
See some two handsome gentlementhat have been putting out some

(02:36):
quality content.
Now I said that there was ascandal afoot.
Uh something I noticed aboutyour video.
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (02:42):
Uh, from the show.
You used that picture?
There's another where there's amuch better one where you can
see both my shoes.
Oh, okay.
This is where I saw it.
It's a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02 (02:49):
Yeah, but this one right here.
Liam, you're wearing twodifferent colored shoes.
I wanted to ask what it comesthis way.

SPEAKER_01 (02:55):
I went to the store and I was looking at Converse as
I wanted to do because I'm aConverse man.
I don't know if you guys haveseen iRobot with Will Smith.
Solid movie.
But it's like the 2050 in themovie, and he's like, Converse
are still good.
Like they're retro in the movie,but he's still wearing them.
I'm like, yo, he's right.
Like, Converse are gonna bearound forever because they are
just a fucking sexy ass shoe.

(03:16):
They're a good shoe.
And so I'm looking at theConverse as I'm one to do, and
I'm looking at the black and thered ones, and I'm like, I like
both of these a lot.
High top, oh, just so nice.
And I'm like, you know what?
I'm gonna buy both of thesefuckers, and I'm gonna wear one
of each.
So I got a red shoe, I got redon one and black on the other.
Now, when those fade out, orlike those, you know, do that,

(03:40):
then I just switch them and Igot another pair.
So I'm still wearing two pairs,I still got two pairs of shoes.
How smart is that?
It's the best, it's the bestdecision I've made.

SPEAKER_00 (03:47):
It really makes me feel like you're going bowling
because whenever you go bowling,you get the bowling alley shoes,
they're red and black.

SPEAKER_01 (03:52):
Mine are usually I guess they're kind of like
multicolored or whatever.
I I went to the DMV for my carand I got like four people that
walked to me.
I like those shoes.
I was like, thank you.
I feel like this was a greatdecision.

SPEAKER_02 (04:04):
You know what?
I gotta say, those shoes are noturkey.
That is uh some juicy meat yougot right there.
It's like no cap.
I think this is a a new yeah, nocap, as the kids say.

SPEAKER_01 (04:14):
I've never whatever new says it's it up in Ohio.
I'm not even gonna look it up.
I'm not even gonna look up whatit means.
I'm just gonna wait until itchanges shortly for until
something else.
I'm too old for this at thispoint.
What is six seven?
I don't know.
We discussed absolutely no idea.
It's a good polyrhythm.
I have you you could tell meit's anything, and I'd be like,

(04:36):
yeah, okay.
Sounds good.
That's fine.
That sounds fine.
Wait till it I'm gonna wait tillit's 6'9 again.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 (04:44):
Man, shrinkflation is affecting everything.

SPEAKER_01 (04:47):
Oh that's what it is.
It's 69.
A little bit off the top.

SPEAKER_02 (04:52):
That's can't even afford a good 69 anymore.

SPEAKER_01 (04:57):
We can only afford 6'7.

SPEAKER_00 (04:58):
I think we've just figured out what 6'7 is.

SPEAKER_01 (05:02):
Oh, fuck, that's good.
It's shrinkflation.
I mean, it's so like that shit'severywhere.
I saw like a video of like somecollege basketball, or not even
maybe even high school.
I don't know.
And they were like, it was twofree throws to make it 67.
67 points.

(05:23):
And like the crowd went wildwhen she hit both of them.
I was like, this is crazy.
People are all in on this, and Ihave no idea what it is or what
it means.

SPEAKER_02 (05:31):
I think by the time you get merch out there for it,
it's already probably out of thepress.

SPEAKER_01 (05:36):
It's already gone.

SPEAKER_02 (05:37):
It's already gone.

SPEAKER_01 (05:38):
That's why we need to do all like the retro and
vintage stuff.
It just stays.
We're good.

SPEAKER_02 (05:42):
Can't wait for laser discs to come back.
That's I've invested thousandsof dollars in laser discs.
It's I'm sure they're comingback around.

SPEAKER_01 (05:50):
I mean, everything records have come back now.
Like everybody's talking aboutrecords.
Betamax.

SPEAKER_02 (05:55):
I'm going all in on the Commodore 64.

SPEAKER_01 (05:58):
What the hell's a Betamax?
I don't even know.

SPEAKER_02 (06:01):
It was like it was the there was VHS and there was
Betamax, and they were kind oflike going head to head to see
which one would become media.

SPEAKER_00 (06:09):
Wait, you you really didn't know Betamax?

SPEAKER_01 (06:11):
Um I'm in I'm in the dark.
I'm with 6'7 on this one.
I don't know what's going on.
Wow.
Um Betamax.
I had VHS, that's all I'm old.
I'm the youngest one here.
I think I just missed it, Iguess.
I just went right to VHS.
What was VHS?
How did people play moviesbefore VHS?
They just didn't?

SPEAKER_02 (06:29):
You just went to the theater?
They hallucinated.

SPEAKER_01 (06:32):
They actually went out and did shit.
Yeah, they had porn did stuff.

SPEAKER_02 (06:36):
They had to visit a big room with a screen in it and
eat popcorn with their hands ordo other things with their hands
if you're Pee Wee Herman.

SPEAKER_01 (06:43):
Right.
Man, going to a like a porntheater has to be a real choice.
Like, I can't imagine walking inwith just like there's tons of
other people, and you just sitdown to watch porn with all of
them.
I can't even pee if somebodyelse walks into the bathroom.
I don't even want to use one ofthose trough urnals.
Yeah, hold on.
Let me go to the theater to getboners with strangers.

(07:05):
I I that's a that's a realchoice that I'm glad I've never
made.

SPEAKER_02 (07:10):
And please two tickets to the 230 boner
matinee.

SPEAKER_01 (07:14):
What's playing?
I don't care.
My life's a wreck anyway,clearly.
What do you think I care?

SPEAKER_02 (07:20):
That'd be the worst time for the guy with the
flashlight to come into theroom.
We can check it for everybody'stickets.

SPEAKER_01 (07:27):
Oh no.
I don't even I didn't even thinkabout that.

SPEAKER_02 (07:31):
Why is there popcorn all over the floor at the corner
scene?

SPEAKER_00 (07:34):
Why is there a guy putting with a flashlight and
not a guy hawking fleshlights?

SPEAKER_01 (07:39):
Well, they have both.
You never know which one.
Flashlights, dude.
Get your flashlight.
Get the flashlight.
Life's great, man.
Life's so good.

SPEAKER_02 (07:55):
AMC branded fleshlights changes.
You can't take them away.

SPEAKER_01 (07:59):
This can never air.

SPEAKER_02 (08:01):
Take two.
Well, happy Thanksgiving,everyone.

SPEAKER_01 (08:04):
Welcome in moderation.
The real eyebrow high roadpodcasts.

SPEAKER_02 (08:10):
I figured we could talk about Thanksgiving today
for those people out there whoare maybe nervous about going
into family situations.
Luckily, they won't be listeningto this with their families.
If this was a time-honoredfamily tradition for you in
moderation, I'm sorry.
That's done.
And if it isn't a time-honoredtradition, why isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 (08:31):
Make it one.

SPEAKER_02 (08:33):
Unless they rented out a porn theater to watch this
on YouTube, in which case, Godbless you.

SPEAKER_01 (08:38):
What do you normally do?
Sit there with family and cutthe turkey?
Boring.
Everybody's done that.

SPEAKER_00 (08:43):
Oh man.
You guys, you guys make such abig spectacle of Thanksgiving.
I think that's the number onedifference between American and
Canadian Thanksgiving.
Ours is just this small thingwhere like the families get
together and have a privatedinner and you guys like plaster
it everywhere.
You've got it like aThanksgiving Day parade.

SPEAKER_01 (09:01):
We kind of do that for every like, don't we do that
for like all our holidays?
Isn't it just completely overthe top?
Like, and like every anyopportunity to stuff our faces
as much as possible, we takewith just reckless abandon.

SPEAKER_02 (09:15):
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
It's it's everything's an eatingholiday.
I mean, what is Halloween likein Canada?
Is it the same as here?

SPEAKER_00 (09:24):
Um, we have to work for our candy by fridging
through one to two feet of snow.

SPEAKER_01 (09:32):
Oh, yeah.
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (09:33):
Yeah, we don't get that anymore.
BP and Shell got rid of snow awhile ago.

SPEAKER_01 (09:37):
Yeah.
Thankfully.
I'm looking forward to my uh,you know, waterside property
pretty soon.

SPEAKER_02 (09:45):
78 degree October's my favorite thing, sweating in a
costume.
I don't think we'd be able toget away with trick-or-treating
at our height, any of us.

SPEAKER_00 (09:55):
Uh I remember when we were doing it uh when we were
younger, we'd have to have likeour our snow winter jackets
underneath the costumes, so thecostumes would be like twice the
actual size of our arms becausethey were filled out.

SPEAKER_01 (10:10):
I didn't even think about it.

SPEAKER_00 (10:11):
You could see buff Spider-Man walking around.

SPEAKER_01 (10:13):
Right.
Yeah, exactly.
You know, here's what you do youhave a fucking toddler.
People love toddlers.
I brought Oakley out.
Everyone loved Oakley.
They're giving her all the candyand everything.
That's the way to do it.
I get all the free candy.
There might be some otherdownsides.
That's why you had a kid.
That's you might have to dealwith a few things that you
didn't foresee in the beginning,but you know, for the it's

(10:33):
really worth it for the candy.
That's why we're talking aboutThanksgiving today instead of
Halloween.

SPEAKER_02 (10:38):
I just found out recently they actually sell that
candy at Walmart for fivedollars.
I know.
Hard life is a lie.
Did you guys just hear mywalking pad talk a second ago?
No.
No.
Okay.
So my walking pad lately, it'sit's got Bluetooth for this
thing right here.
And recently the neighbors havelike found a way to connect to

(10:59):
it.
And every once in a while I willhear music coming through my
walking pad.
What?
Yes.
What music they play in Get Low?
It's yeah, it's usually bird bythe trash man.
It's got some bass.
Now, if if my walking pad hadthe ability to play bass, if it
had subwoofers in it, I thinkI'd hear the bass, but it's all

(11:20):
like very high frequency partsof the songs.
So I'm like missing the beats ofit.

SPEAKER_00 (11:26):
So either your neighbors are expert trolls or
they don't know the differencebetween the Bluetooth devices.

SPEAKER_02 (11:34):
I think they're trying to listen to music and
they aren't getting to it.

SPEAKER_01 (11:40):
That's pretty great.
That's pretty great.
I like it.
But you know what else is great?

SPEAKER_02 (11:46):
Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_01 (11:47):
DeLoreans.
Man, I just cannot oh,Thanksgiving.
Right.
No, Thanksgiving.
Thanksgiving too.

SPEAKER_02 (11:54):
Unfortunately, in the uh in the movie, Marty would
have traveled back to 1985before Thanksgiving in 1955.
So he would have just missedgetting to have a nice dinner
with Doc.
Not that you would know.
Damn.

SPEAKER_01 (12:08):
No, I I've never had them in the dark.
I know about as much as this is6'7.
Um but like with Thanksgiving,people like I think it's for me,
for me, it's like the day you'relike, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not
gonna be worried about like thefact that the mashed potatoes
are mostly butter, right?
It's like 20% potato, like 80%butter, and like all the other

(12:32):
things.
Like, I'm just gonna enjoy myday, right?
I mean, like, you're with thefamily.
Like, are you really gonna bethinking about like how am I
gonna hit my macros with thismeal?
You know, where you guys at?

SPEAKER_02 (12:43):
Yeah, we don't need to be hitting macros on
Thanksgiving.
We'll hit now it one of therules that I'll I'll let me go
back to what I call my firstmindful Thanksgiving.
Okay.
It was after I'd lost all of myweight, I was actually
underweight at this point, and Ihad recognized that I can't lose
any more weight safely.
And losing weight wasn't gonnabe the answer to happiness and

(13:05):
healthiness, so I had to gain.
But before I did that, I learnedhow to maintain.
And one of the things that I wasdoing on Thanksgiving, I'm like,
I I I can't bring a food scale,I'm not gonna do that.

SPEAKER_01 (13:16):
Yeah, that's uh Thanksgiving.
So that would be rough.
Hold on, guys, can you justscooch over the gravy?

SPEAKER_02 (13:22):
Hold on, real quick.
I gotta weigh six more grams ofturkey.
Yeah, it's like it's it's notgonna go well.
So, what I decided on, becauseI'm like, I I don't know if I'm
gonna be able to track anything,I won't be able to reliably
count anything.
So, how can I gauge whether ornot I've had too much?
Simple.
Don't walk away from the tablesick.

(13:43):
That is that was my only rulethat year, and it's to this day,
it's my only rule on the that'sa solid rule.

SPEAKER_01 (13:48):
Like, that's a good rule.

SPEAKER_02 (13:49):
Don't walk away from the table sick.
Have whatever you want, go slow,take your bites intentionally,
and just don't walk away fromthe table sick.

SPEAKER_00 (13:55):
My thing is you shouldn't end the day feeling
guilty.
So you shouldn't feel guiltythat you didn't sit down and eat
with your food with your family.
You shouldn't feel guilty thator rather, you you you shouldn't
eat so much that you feelguilty.
You if you are uh trying reallyhard to adhere to a diet and you

(14:19):
actually do want to stick to it,you shouldn't let people guilt
you into just pigging out.
Yeah.
Like at the end of the day, youshould feel good.
Not guilty.

SPEAKER_01 (14:29):
You shouldn't feel guilty about blowing up on your
Aunt Marie about talking abouthow vaccines cause autism now.
You don't feel guilty aboutthat.

unknown (14:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (14:38):
And the other thing is just eat slow and focus on
conversing.
It's supposed to be uh well, atleast in Canada, it's a day of
sitting down with your familyand conversing and having a good
time.
Focus on the conversation ratherthan the food.

SPEAKER_01 (14:53):
That is the one.
Focus on the conversation.
I like that.
You're talking to people andinstead of just like I have to
eat this as fast as possible.

SPEAKER_02 (15:01):
You can replicate everything else on that table
other than the people any othertime of year.
Exactly.
You can make a pumpkin pie inJune if you want to.

SPEAKER_01 (15:10):
It's a good pie.

SPEAKER_02 (15:11):
Solid pie.
Yeah, you're gonna get pumpkinsweats, you know, but it like
you can do it.
You can make turkey and stuffingin March.
It doesn't matter.
There's no rules.
We have a fascist Nazi inoffice.
Do whatever the fuck you want.
I the world is burning.
You think he gives a fuck?
Oh, God.

SPEAKER_00 (15:29):
If he wants a key lime pie in December, he will
have someone killed to get it.
I hear he randomly decided tojust unpardon Biden's pardon
birds or whatever it is you dodown there.

SPEAKER_01 (15:40):
I didn't even know that was a thing.
I'm gonna be perfectly honestwith you.

SPEAKER_00 (15:43):
Wait, he unpardoned He unpardoned the birds that
Biden pardoned.

SPEAKER_02 (15:48):
Are they alive?
Like, did he track them down?
Do they keep them somewhere?
Are they tagged?

SPEAKER_01 (15:54):
So basically, what you're saying, instead of
unpardon, he set out a hit.
He set out a hit on birds.

SPEAKER_00 (16:00):
Yeah, that sounds about right.

SPEAKER_01 (16:02):
Oh my gosh.
What did the birds?

SPEAKER_00 (16:05):
There's a topic for you guys to talk around the
table about.

SPEAKER_01 (16:08):
I guess so.
Better than some of the otherstuff people bring up.
I'll tell you that.
Um but like even on likehonestly, like Thanksgiving, is
it even that crazy?
Like you get turkey, green beancasserole, potatoes.
What else is there?
Lots of pieces?

SPEAKER_02 (16:25):
Lots of pies.

SPEAKER_01 (16:26):
And then, yeah, like just where you get your pie.
That's not even that crazy.

SPEAKER_02 (16:29):
Yeah.
Sweet potato pie or two, whichcomes with dinner for some
reason.

SPEAKER_00 (16:33):
Stick to the usual rule, you know, a third of your
plate protein, a third of yourplate greens, a third of your
plate starch.

SPEAKER_01 (16:40):
You know what I okay.
You know what I think theproblem is?
You know what I think theproblem is?
Is people go like, well,Thanksgiving's coming up, so I
shouldn't like do my diet now.
And then, you know, Christmas iscoming up soon, right?
Christmas is gonna be here soon,so I might as well not even do
that.
And then I got New Year's,right?
So I should probably wait forthat.
And then you just kind of keepwaiting.
It's just like, oh no, justfucking have a day where you

(17:02):
just eat, you know, whatever'sat the table, and then just
whatever the next day.
You're good.
That's it.

SPEAKER_00 (17:06):
Like you see that a lot in the numbers as a trainer
this time of year.
Everybody just you you lose lotsof clients, nobody's signing up
for anything.
Right.
They're just they just kind ofgive up for this period of the
season.
And then New Year's comes andboom, everybody's got to be
like, Oh, I've got to get my NewYear's body, New Year's
resolution.

SPEAKER_01 (17:26):
It's like, no, skip that shit.
And just like have a day inThanksgiving, eat, and like, and
then you get back to like whatis it, 3,500 calories and a
pound of fat?
You're not even eating that muchat fucking Thanksgiving.
Calm down.
People think that you have likeone bad meal, one bad quotations
meal, and then you know, yougain like five pounds.
Like, that's not how it's what'snot how it works.

SPEAKER_02 (17:46):
One day of your year is 0.2 it's like 0.25% of your
year.
It's not even a full percent.

SPEAKER_01 (17:56):
No.

SPEAKER_02 (17:57):
It's barely a quarter of a percentage of your
entire year.
There's nothing you could do onone day that will mess you up
that badly, anyway.

SPEAKER_01 (18:07):
You could go full Joey chestnut and eat 69, 67 hot
dogs.

SPEAKER_00 (18:12):
Further Liam's point there, um, if you're if you eat
five pounds of food, regardlessof how many calories that is,
you're gonna see the scale go upfive pounds because you put five
pounds of weight into your bodyuntil you water.
That doesn't mean you put onfive pounds of fat.

SPEAKER_01 (18:31):
I think that's what it is.
You eat all the carbs, you getthe yeah, right?
You just water shit, and thenpeople are like, damn.

SPEAKER_02 (18:38):
Don't weigh yourself for a week after Thanksgiving.
The number that will be on thatscale is a lie.
That's a good point.
You are thrown off.
If you get on a even if you eatnormally and you but you had to
get on a plane in between, justbeing up in the air will make
you retain water.
It's crazy what the human bodywill do when circumstances
change.
Don't weigh yourself for a week.

SPEAKER_00 (18:58):
Yeah, there's so much variability in our weight,
especially around big meals.
I mean, until you pass that afive-pound bowel movement,
you're still five pounds up.
And that's not fat again.
That's just a bowel movement.

SPEAKER_02 (19:11):
I have a picture from last year.
I had taken a picture of myselfafter a Thanksgiving meal.
Oh, yeah.
And then the next day, and Iit's I I hated posting that
first picture because I'm youknow looking a little round, but
the next day I'm good.
I'm like, you know, I've gotdefinition again.
And it's just like, hey, my bodydid a thing, it digested.

SPEAKER_01 (19:33):
Yeah, I consumed so much sodium in that meal that I
spiked up for a little bit, andnow I'm good.

SPEAKER_02 (19:39):
And like just enjoy family people will consume the
or people will confuse thefeeling of being bloated and
full with having gained weight.
Yes, technically speaking, youhave gained weight, like
physical, like as if you hadstepped on the scale holding a
plate of food because it's justinside of you.

(20:00):
It's the same thing, yes.
But you have not gained asignificant amount of fat to the
degree by which you feel it.
It's give it a couple of days,you're good.
Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (20:11):
So enjoy stomach bloating is also going to be
gas.
Because guess what?
That's stuff fermenting in yourcolon, in your intestines.
That's gonna cause excessstretching of the gut.

SPEAKER_01 (20:24):
Enjoy family, enjoy food.
Guys, what is your mostoverrated Thanksgiving food?
Turkey.
Recipe.
You go with a turkey?
I'm tempted.

SPEAKER_02 (20:36):
There's a reason we only eat it once a year.

SPEAKER_01 (20:38):
It's not, it's oh, it's definitely.

SPEAKER_02 (20:39):
You guys only eat it once a year?

SPEAKER_01 (20:41):
It's a turkey.

SPEAKER_02 (20:41):
It's a trash bird.

SPEAKER_01 (20:42):
We don't really eat turkey.
Like turkey, I don't thinkturkey is that good.
I don't even I don't reallyenjoy turkey.
I don't enjoy turkey.
It's dry, it's tasteless, it'skind of gamey.
All the things people gothrough.

SPEAKER_00 (20:54):
All you guys are telling me is that you guys suck
at at cooking.

SPEAKER_01 (20:57):
Well, what do you are you deep frying it?
Because that's what I see.
People are doing like going allsorts all out to try to make
turkey sounds.

SPEAKER_00 (21:04):
But um did you see Dr.
Terry?
What do you what do you guys doon uh Easter and Christmas?

SPEAKER_01 (21:10):
Candy.

SPEAKER_00 (21:11):
Candy.

SPEAKER_01 (21:12):
I just eat a lot of fucking candy, to be honest with
you.
Okay, especially Easter.

SPEAKER_00 (21:17):
Like we eat, we eat we eat turkey Easter,
Thanksgiving, and Christmas.

SPEAKER_01 (21:23):
I don't like sli turkey, like sliced turkey,
maybe eat that once in a while,but not really.
I don't even eat that.
I just don't like turkey.
I don't think turkey's verygood.
I think we should be pardoningall the turkeys.
All turkeys get barred.
They're not you're not tasty.
Get out of here.

SPEAKER_00 (21:38):
Have we tried other animals yet?
Like Thanksgiving lizard,everyone, gather around.
So just randomly, randomly wentto a vegan eatery recently.
Okay.
And dude, I'm telling you, thethe beef there, the the fake
beef, whatever the the I don'tknow what it was made of.

(21:58):
Satan or something.
I'm telling you, it was betterthan the actual ginger beef.

SPEAKER_02 (22:03):
Isn't that just like basically gluten that's been?

SPEAKER_01 (22:07):
Well, the satan is gluten, yeah.
So a lot of times, like if youget like a chipped beef thing or
whatever, like um, I had like asteak sub the other day that was
like, yeah, satan.
I was like, it's actually prettygood.
I was surprised.
I was like, this is what I saw.
Yeah, they have like a faketurkey, like a uh faux turkey
that's made out of tofu.
I saw that.
I tried it.
That was that was I wouldtotally try it, but it's it was

(22:28):
$150.
And I was like, I'm not payingfor that.
Uh no, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 (22:35):
That's a lot.
Um I'd rather just get uh ablock of tofu and crumple some
turkey flavored chips on it.

SPEAKER_01 (22:46):
Absolutely, I would much rather do that.

SPEAKER_02 (22:48):
No, I'm leaving out Oreos for my vegan attendees.
That's it.
$150 turkey.
No.

SPEAKER_01 (22:55):
No, thank you.
No, okay, overrated.
So turkey's good.
I'm gonna upset a lot of people.
People are gonna hate me.
People are gonna like it.
But listen, this is more foryou, okay?
If I'm not eating it, thenyou're eating it, right?
Green bean casserole.
I don't really like green beancasserole.
I a lot of times the green beancasseroles are like from like
the green beans from my cannon.

SPEAKER_00 (23:15):
You don't like something that's beans?

SPEAKER_01 (23:17):
Not those type of beans.
Not the green beans, those greenbeans from a can.
I do not like green beans from acan.
I don't think they're not in thecabinet.
They're not in my cabinet.
No, they are not, and they willnever be in my cabinet.
They will be somewhere elsebecause they just any I don't
like like regular, like youknow, navy beans and all that

(23:39):
stuff in the can?
Absolutely.
I don't like so you make themwith fresh like green beans and
whatnot is better.
I still just I'm not a bigcasserole fan.
I don't put I'm just that's whatI'm saying.
Not a huge fan.
Everyone's green beans on aplate.
More potatoes.
Give me the potatoes.

SPEAKER_00 (23:56):
Oh, I love my potatoes.

SPEAKER_01 (23:57):
Oh, the fucking mashed potatoes.
I could just eat a whole plateof mashed potatoes, like just
that's my favorite.
Just put that on the plate.
I'm happy.
We're good to go.

SPEAKER_00 (24:04):
Yeah, that's the majority of my plate is potato.

SPEAKER_01 (24:06):
But the fucking mashed potatoes, man, they're so
good.
I made dude, I made the cottagecheese.
Like somebody put like blendedcottage cheese and potato,
mashed potatoes, and everyonewas tagging me because her in
the video, she was like, You allcan tag Liam if you want, and
then people were like, Let's doit.
I made it not half bad.
I put a little bit of butter inthere to be fair, but like
three, four tablespoons, but inlike a big batch, so it's like

(24:28):
not even that much.
But some um uh blended cottagecheese with a little milk or you
use bone broth or whatever.
That was good.
I was surprised by how much Ilike that.
I mean, like it's cottagecheese, it makes cheesy things,
you know, for things for cheesystuff.
That makes cheesy things, yeah.
It makes cheesy things, it makescheesy things that go with
cheesy and mashed potatoes,solid.

(24:48):
I'm just saying uh you don'thave to do for Thanksgiving.
What I was saying at some point,it's actually pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 (24:53):
You know what I'm gonna say is overrated?

SPEAKER_01 (24:55):
What is overrated?

SPEAKER_00 (24:57):
Mashed potatoes.
Because a good baked potato.

SPEAKER_01 (25:01):
You want baked potato on Thanksgiving?

SPEAKER_00 (25:03):
You don't who said you need to have mashed
potatoes?
Come on.
Uh, fully loaded baked potato.

SPEAKER_01 (25:10):
I love a fully loaded baked potato.
It's Thanksgiving, motherfucker.
Give me the mash potatoes.
What the hell?

SPEAKER_02 (25:17):
A mashed potato is just a baked potato a little
further down the line.
That's it's all baked.

SPEAKER_01 (25:23):
It's the evolutionized version of the
baked potato.

SPEAKER_02 (25:26):
Because what are you gonna do with it when it's on
your plate?
You're gonna start mashing ittogether and mixing it.
So there's that word.
Mash.

SPEAKER_01 (25:32):
Have someone do the work for you.
Again, like love baked potatoes,but it's Thanksgiving.
Give me the mashed potatoes.

SPEAKER_02 (25:41):
Rob's like, you know what?
I really love eating peanutswith the shells on them.
You don't?
I wish there was another way ofgetting it.

SPEAKER_01 (25:47):
It's crunchier.
It's crunchier, more fiber.

SPEAKER_00 (25:50):
No, no, no.
It's yeah, I don't eat peanutswith the shells on them.
I eat pistachios with the shellson them.

SPEAKER_01 (25:55):
Oh, it's like bones.

SPEAKER_02 (26:00):
Bones.
It's the but like the patienthas presented with many lesions
in his intestines.
We don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (26:06):
He tried a walnut and almost died.

SPEAKER_02 (26:08):
Not because he's allergic, because he tried to
eat it with a shell.
He ate the equivalent of a chunkof wood to get a quarter of a
gram of food.

SPEAKER_01 (26:17):
We had to pull them away from the buckeyes.
We told them they're poisoned.

SPEAKER_00 (26:20):
No, my actual overrated thing is the stuffing.

SPEAKER_01 (26:24):
Stuffing.
Okay.
It's it's kind of weird.
I'm not gonna lie.
Yeah, it's fine.
I'm like a stuffing for me is avery just average, like five out
of ten, typically.
It's fine.
I can take it or leave it.

SPEAKER_00 (26:36):
I'd rather leave room on the plate for the
potatoes.

SPEAKER_01 (26:38):
Potatoes.
But you know what I like aboutmashed potatoes?
Corn.
I like bro.
I remember growing up there waslike a KFC right by me, and they
had like a KFC famous bowl wherethey had mashed potatoes and
corn in it and some cheese, andobviously like a chicken or
whatever.
And I would get that all thetime.
Put a little bit of corn inthere, a little bit of
sweetness.

SPEAKER_02 (26:58):
Oh that's the KFC infamous bowl.
I don't know about corn being inmashed potatoes.

SPEAKER_01 (27:05):
Did you never have a KFC famous bowl?
Not like that.
That was good.
I ate that all I love.
That was one.
I always got that.
I like I like but I also likecorn and a lot of things.
Corn.
Corn.
I really I really like corn.
It's just cheap, delicious.

SPEAKER_00 (27:21):
Corn is really good.

SPEAKER_01 (27:23):
Corn's so good.
America, baby.
We gotta put corn in everything.
We put corn in our batteries anddiapers.
We might as well put it in ourmashed potatoes.

SPEAKER_02 (27:31):
We put corn in our syrup.

SPEAKER_01 (27:33):
Exactly.
Put it in my potatoes.

SPEAKER_02 (27:36):
Put it in everything.

SPEAKER_01 (27:37):
Like a baked pot, like a load of baked potato, you
put corn on that.
Why not mashed potatoes?
That's all I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 (27:43):
I don't know.
I'm skeptical.
Anyone else out there thatthinks uh turkey is overrated
and dry and everything?
Just focus on the veggies.
Screw the channel.

SPEAKER_02 (27:55):
We have a caller.
We have a caller calling theinmoderation hotline.
Hold on.
It's your own trying to connectto your treadmill.
Shut the fuck up.
Here's Warner Brothers protectedmusic.
You'll never be aired again.
You'll get a hundred copyrightstrikes.
Man.
No, they were just calling tosay the turkey sucks.

(28:15):
Yeah, I don't.

SPEAKER_01 (28:16):
Yeah, I I usually just honestly I just like skip
the turkey or they I'll take alittle bit just so I think
people see that I'm eating it.
Like, yeah, we got turkey.
Don't really need it that badly.
You know what I usually do?

SPEAKER_00 (28:25):
I'll put the turkey on a bun.

SPEAKER_01 (28:27):
On a bun?
That makes it better.
Yeah.
Like a sandwich?
You make like a little turkeysandwich?

SPEAKER_00 (28:32):
Uh open face sandwich?
I guess, yeah.
I would I would I don't know.
Do we call it a sandwich or aburger?
Because you get the dinnerdinner rolls.
We usually have dinner rolls.

SPEAKER_01 (28:42):
I'd still call it a sandwich.
I would still call it asandwich.
I think the burger is.

SPEAKER_00 (28:46):
Whatever you call it, that's what I do is I get a
couple dinner rolls, I throw theturkey on there, give it a
little butter.

SPEAKER_01 (28:53):
Gravy.
Gravy.
No gravy.

SPEAKER_00 (28:55):
And there you go.
You've got it's it's better thanjust the dry turkey.

SPEAKER_01 (28:59):
I like that.
You know what I would put on it?
Corn.
I was just about to fucking saycorn.
You know what go great withthis?
Just little pieces of shit goingeverywhere.
Little pieces of corn.
You gotta try to like sequesterthem in the middle when they go
out.
That's what I like.

SPEAKER_02 (29:13):
I like my Thanksgiving meal to sit in my
toilet afterward.

SPEAKER_01 (29:18):
To look back at it.
Like, how much does it look likethe Michelle Obama might be?
We talked about like eatwhatever you want, right?
Calories through Thanksgiving.
All I'm saying is like corn, youdon't fully digest it.
You could eat, you can eat likeall the corn.
It just goes right back out.
You can only get a few calories.
You're sacked.

SPEAKER_02 (29:33):
William Leighton all corn diet.

SPEAKER_01 (29:36):
I'm gonna come up with an all-corn diet.
Listen, if fucking keto andsalve and all this stuff can
work, the all-corn diet.
I'm gonna I I think I have tolean into the American ism this
of it because it's like youknow, corn.
The cleanse?

SPEAKER_00 (29:52):
No, that's a corn cleanse, like a celery cleanse.

SPEAKER_01 (29:54):
Like clean no, I I think the the the stuffed or the
or the kerneled.
The corned, the corn kerneled.
There's I don't know.
I think I think the all-corndiet, just saying, I think it
would go pretty well.

SPEAKER_02 (30:10):
Okay, so a corn-only diet results in severe protein
deficiency, muscle loss, andfatigue, uh, very low fat
intake, so we're gonna deal withsome hormones deficiencies.

SPEAKER_01 (30:22):
I'm not saying it's perfect.
There might be a few issues, butit'd be very tasty.

SPEAKER_00 (30:28):
It could be profitable.

SPEAKER_01 (30:29):
It could be profitable.
Fine.
I guess it's yeah, we might needsome might be protein.
Protein deficient a little bit.
You got lots of fiber.

SPEAKER_02 (30:41):
How long would it take of just say you could
survive this?
How long would it take of justeating corn for your poop to
just be corn?

SPEAKER_01 (30:49):
At least three and a half weeks.

SPEAKER_02 (30:52):
Where like you you shit and it just sounds like a
baby knocking around in a can ofpaint.

SPEAKER_00 (30:57):
Pretty sure the turnover would be about three to
four days.

SPEAKER_02 (31:00):
Mythbusters, where are you at?

SPEAKER_01 (31:03):
That's when they come back, they're gonna do the
all corn diet.
They're testing that.

SPEAKER_02 (31:07):
Perfect.
Did you have the Mythbusters upthere, or do they have to
translate it for Canada?
Like the fib testers orsomething?

SPEAKER_00 (31:16):
Oh, they had to they had to translate it.
So you know.
Welcome to Mythbusters, eh?
Just threw in accents.
Oh, today we're going uh bustthis myth about uh corn in your
diet.

SPEAKER_01 (31:31):
Moose is moosers, mooses.

SPEAKER_02 (31:34):
Do do moose taste good?
Have you had one?

SPEAKER_01 (31:38):
Forget turkey.

SPEAKER_02 (31:40):
Yes, I have.

SPEAKER_01 (31:41):
Forget turkey.
Canadians have the moose on thetable.
I think we should go back to thecode.

SPEAKER_02 (31:46):
I feel like that's twice this month I've been asked
that question.

SPEAKER_00 (31:49):
Does it feel like a slide against your people?
Is it offensive?
No, it's it's something we huntup here because it's common.

SPEAKER_01 (31:59):
All right.

SPEAKER_02 (32:00):
How does it compare to turkey?

SPEAKER_00 (32:02):
Is it is it uh you guys would probably like it
better than turkey.

SPEAKER_01 (32:06):
Okay.
It's a low bar, so I'll probablysay you're right.

SPEAKER_00 (32:09):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (32:10):
I would only eat moose that I hunt with my car.
I'd run it down.
I think that the the moose mightbe.

SPEAKER_00 (32:17):
I'm pretty sure the moose wins.

SPEAKER_02 (32:18):
They're hefty, they're like 18 feet tall.
They go through a lot of cars.
They've got a gravitationalpull.

SPEAKER_00 (32:25):
There's a reason I drive a truck, it's so that if I
run into a moose, I am not goingto die.
Fair.

SPEAKER_02 (32:32):
Now, how are we gonna drop a moose into a uh
deep fryer?
That's the problem.

SPEAKER_00 (32:37):
You need a very big deep fryer.

SPEAKER_02 (32:38):
That's good.

SPEAKER_00 (32:39):
We'd have to convert like a jacuzzi.

SPEAKER_01 (32:42):
Jacuzzi fryer where like the jets are still on and
it's just throwing the fuckingoil everywhere.
Yeah.
That could burn down a town.
Then afterwards, you lower thetemperature down and hop in.
There you go.
Get it down to like a hundred.

SPEAKER_00 (32:56):
Get all that oil on your skin.
It's very sticky.
Nice, smooth.

SPEAKER_02 (33:00):
You'd have to airlift a 2300-pound animal with
a helicopter into this thing.
I don't know.
It's not impossible.

SPEAKER_01 (33:07):
You know what I mean?
You know what car I would use tohunt moose?

SPEAKER_02 (33:12):
Would it be made of just like weak brushed aluminum
by chance?
It would crumble like a soda canunder a it might.

SPEAKER_01 (33:22):
It might.
It might rhyme with Ballorean.

SPEAKER_02 (33:25):
What would happen is you drive towards the moose and
the car would split in half andkeep going.
The moose would just be standingthere.

SPEAKER_00 (33:33):
The moose would just give it a stare and it would
fall apart.

SPEAKER_01 (33:36):
I think I would go back in time before it hit it.
I think that's how it works.

SPEAKER_02 (33:40):
You know when a cartoon character runs through a
wall and you see theirsilhouette as a hole in the
wall?
That's what the DeLorean wouldlook like afterwards.
Just a moose.

SPEAKER_01 (33:50):
Welcome to Inmoderation, where we give you
a few tips, few tips on food,and the rest of the time we talk
about DeLoreans and how long itwould take to turn your poop
corn.

SPEAKER_02 (33:59):
It's gotten to the point where people are asking me
about the DeLorean now, whichtells me two things.
One, they're hearing a lot aboutthe DeLoreans, and two, they
know me from inmoderation.

SPEAKER_01 (34:10):
I love it.
I love it.

SPEAKER_02 (34:12):
What an interesting timeline this DeLorean has
brought us on.
It's so good.
You don't have to burn all ofthe calories you consume.

SPEAKER_01 (34:21):
You do not.
Your body to not die.

SPEAKER_02 (34:24):
Yeah.
So if you're going to be like,hey, the next day I have to work
out super hard, or for the wholenext week, I have to try to burn
everything off that I had.
Not how it works.

SPEAKER_01 (34:35):
Not how it works.
Not how it works.
We're all gonna be mad at you ifyou do that.
And we're all gonna be mad atyou, yes.

SPEAKER_00 (34:41):
Yeah, specifically you, Justin.

SPEAKER_01 (34:44):
Fucking Justin.
Always out there burning offThanksgiving calories.
Justin, you're a go-getter, butcome on, man.

SPEAKER_02 (34:51):
Take it easy.

SPEAKER_00 (34:52):
You know what else is a good idea if you want to
get help around the holidays?
What's that?
Join Mike's group coaching.
Shameless.
He has no idea I was gonna talkabout this.
But the so the other week when Iwas in Texas, I was out there
for Mike's group coaching'sfirst ever meetup.

SPEAKER_02 (35:12):
Oh, I'm Mike needs a plan, by the way.
I have not introduced myself.
But yes, uh, we we flew Rob downbecause we needed him there.

SPEAKER_00 (35:20):
He's part of the family.
Need is a strong word.
Um not necessarily the rightword, but but um I mean I said
no, no, I got to see him doinghis coaching, but we just roll
with it.
I got to see him doing hiscoaching in person with a bunch
of his clients, and you know,there's there's a lot of um

(35:41):
weight loss stuff that revolvesaround count your calories and
do more exercise and stuff, andthen you have this man in front
of a room of people who are likesobbing their eyes out because
they're coming to terms with allthis mental anguish that they've

(36:02):
had surrounding food,surrounding all these things.
And we need more of that.
It was because there's a lotthat goes on there.

SPEAKER_02 (36:09):
We need more such a lovely experience.
It was um it just really, reallyfantastic.
Like we we joke a lot here andwe we joke in the group too, but
it you know, we're addressingnot just the fat, but the
reasons it's there, and a lot ofthe reasons it's there is up
here.
It's the brain, it's the mind.
You can take a neck downapproach to weight loss and end

(36:33):
up thinner and sadder, orthinner and exactly the same sad
that you were when you started.
The only thing that has kept meat my weight that I am now for
as long as I have effortlesslyis working on all the stuff that
made me fat before.
And it wasn't just the diet, itwas the reason the diet was so
bad.
It wasn't the exercise, it wasthe reason that I wasn't.

(36:55):
It's so um, yeah.
Absolutely.
You know what I'm addressing?
Oh, yeah, please.

SPEAKER_01 (37:03):
These chips, fucking all dress are so good.
Heck yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (37:08):
All dress chips.
I just let me give a quick shoutout to everyone that was there:
Smitty, Cassandra, Tracy, Mandy,Sarah, Amanda, Jennifer, and
obviously you, Rob.
I it all you guys were justfantastic, and I I had a
wonderful time with you guysthere, and I I can't wait to uh

(37:29):
to do more.
Sounds really nice.

SPEAKER_00 (37:31):
And we're doing a drag Liam to the next one.

SPEAKER_02 (37:33):
I'll go.
Oh, for sure.
School.com S K-O-O-L.com slashplan if you want to chat about
it.
But yeah, no, Liam, we need youat at the next one.

SPEAKER_01 (37:45):
For sure.
Where where we have it?
The base of a volcano, or likein there's workings of a lot of.

SPEAKER_00 (37:51):
I don't know if the plan was Colorado next and then
Canada, the one after that.

SPEAKER_01 (37:56):
Oh, do call I've never been to Colorado.
I want to go.
That's yeah, I think that iswhere we're going next, right?
That sounds I'm gonna go toBoulder, right?
That's a place in Colorado.
They got like um That's a placeor like rock climbing, I'm
pretty sure.

SPEAKER_00 (38:12):
Oh, I freaking love hiking and rock climbing at the
same time.

SPEAKER_01 (38:16):
Exactly.
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (38:17):
No, no, really.
I'll go out hiking and there'llbe a sheer wall and I'll just be
like, fuck it, I'm up.
Let's combine some safeactivities together.

SPEAKER_02 (38:24):
Yeah, it's I I I think Colorado's gonna be our
next stop, unless somebody's gota better idea out there.
But uh, that's definitely betterthan Texas.
That's for sure.
We don't want to do the next onein Texas.

SPEAKER_00 (38:37):
So if you're out there and you are looking for
help on the mental side ofthings, um, having seen Mike
behind the scenes and well, noteven behind the scenes, in the
scenes.
In the scenes.
In the scenes, highly recommend.

SPEAKER_02 (38:51):
Well, thank you, my friend.

SPEAKER_00 (38:52):
We um what I recommend?
And then you'll get to meet usall up at the next meetup.

SPEAKER_01 (38:56):
You know what I recommend?
Buying a DeLorean, eating justcorn, and these all dressed
chips.
That's what I recommend.

SPEAKER_00 (39:02):
Eating all dressed chips in a DeLorean.

SPEAKER_01 (39:04):
I don't know DeLorean and pooping corn.
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