The Craziest Roundtable Discussion You'll Listen To This Year

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey recording.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
And that's the end.
Thank you everybody for joining.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to In Moderation, the podcast where
there's some moderation butmostly just anarchy and chaos.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
And we already know.
Do we just hire her as theintro for every episode now?

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Whenever I'm on, I just intro.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Nailed it.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Good night everybody.
That was it.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well, last time I did the intro, me and Liam had like
a 10-minute talk about WorldWar II, which must have been
just a landslide victory foryour ratings on Apple.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Well, don't forget, you had that cute little photo.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
That cute little photo of him ended up being
making it so that we can'tmonetize that episode on YouTube
.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Oh weird, how that works.
But you can monetize mine in abikini.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
But I could monetize yours Double standards.
They hate me because they ain'tme.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
That's what the kids say For context, rob, just
posted, the episode and it's mein a bikini.
And I was like, bro, where didyou even I barely post me in a
bikini, where did you get this?
That's how you get the money.
And then, literally, he waslike we've had a lot of
downloads and I'm like, yeah, Iwonder why people probably think

(01:10):
I'm only fans.
It's an audio podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
What are you gonna like describe boobs during the
show?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
like what's this feel like a podcast.
Maybe they thought I wassitting here in a bikini.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
The world is full of brain rot.
Everybody, stop being perverts.
Just be kind to yourself.
You might start to rub off onothers.
He said the thing I did.
I just swallowed my water wrong.
I had soda come through my nose, by the way.
That's the only way that dietsoda can be bad for you is if it
goes down the wrong way and upthrough your nose, because I am

(01:43):
struggling right now.
80 of them every day so that too, or yeah, if you're a lab rat.
So, paul saladino, you win thisround, damn you I've seen that
guy who does the.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
I'm addicted to soda and the amount he drinks I'm
like that.
That seems like it could be badI like him.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
I'm very jealous.
I'll say that have you guys, Idon't Give a Fuck guy.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
I talked to him we chat via text.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
We buddies he says I should go visit him.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
And I'm like if I didn't have a child, I would
definitely go out and do acollab with fucking.
I Don't Give a Fuck Foods thatwould be dope as shit.
I would fucking chug Red 40.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I don't need you to visit.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
I used to dig crack rocks out of the carpet that'd
be great I wonder how many ofthe stories are true judging by
all of them, I'm gonna believeall of them yeah he's oh, he's a
.
He's some of them.
He can actually rap pretty well, surprisingly like surprisingly
well I'm not surprised.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
What do you mean surprisingly?

Speaker 5 (02:41):
I mean just for a guy that's like you know, doing so
much.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Looks like a coral, that's like you know, done so
much looks like a coral reef.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
I feel like you know, being able to rap seems like it
might be kind of hard, but he'svery good at it.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
A lot of rappers do a lot of drugs and stuff Like
come on, probably helps.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
I mean, if you're a musician, you kind of have to do
drugs.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
It's part of the whole thing, jesse, our new
friend, have you done drugs oh?

Speaker 1 (03:03):
yeah, this is your first introduction to this
podcast.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
It's complete anarchy .

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well, no, you have an in moderation shirt.
Yeah, you're a fan.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
I like it.
So it's just some episodes.
Tell the audience who you are.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
I'm a busy guy, Rob.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
When I'm working.
I actually didn't that one's ona block list?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
It's fine, just trying to be helpful, guys.
So I just try and support myfriends.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
I can't even get the money from that by the way, do
we want to talk about?

Speaker 1 (03:34):
who's done drugs.
No, I did try to divert that.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah.
Okay everybody who's done drugsput up your hand.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
It's a podcast, perfect.
So how are we doing thisroundtable?
Is this it?
Alex just creates anarchy.
Oh, I like this Picasso.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I think we should introduce Jesse.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
We should introduce all of us.
Technically, I guess we should.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well, you and I we're frequent flyers here and I hope
people are familiar with Robinhow about jesse goes first and
then we can go?
Yeah, we'll do it that wayyou're making me go first.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
I feel like that's not fair, you know you best.
I thought it was polite, Ithought that was respectful okay
, yeah, I, I just feel likeyou're pushing, putting all the
pressure on the new guy, butthat's all right, uh you're more
comfortable on the camera thanwe are.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Mr Mistletoe, over here.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
I mean, I don't know about that, but we'll see.
Yeah, my intro.
I suppose my name is Jesse.
I go by progressiveoverhaul onall social platforms.
I was once really fucking fat.
I can swear right.
Yes, I was once really fuckingfat.
I was over 500 pounds.
Yes, I was once really fuckingfat.
I was over 500 pounds.

(04:45):
I've lost over 250 through diet, exercise and not hating my
life, which is a very importantpart of losing weight.
I dance half naked on theinternet.
Once a week I somehow becamethe dude that dances half naked
while shaking loose skin, andthat's a thing that people watch

(05:06):
.
I'm not entirely sure why, butthey do.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Hey, we don't judge people's fetishes here.
There you go.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Exactly, and yeah, that's me Well, you know.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
I think it's for a lot of people like you've lost
way more than I have, so I'm thesecond up, I'm the second
contender here for that.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
I think we've lost the same amount of weight, Mike.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, if you were to go from how many times we've
lost it over and over again,were you able to lose 110?
You weren't 110 pounds heavierthan you are right now, were you
?

Speaker 1 (05:37):
No, I was 60 pounds heavier twice, so I was 120
pounds total.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Maybe you were to scale.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
I mean, if you're counting how much you've lost,
accumulated, I'm at likefreaking like 900.
That's what Mike did.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Me too.
It's because I gained and lost100 pounds at least four times
and then there were like littlebits.
No, but I'm talking just likefrom top to bottom.
I swear.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
You said that when you say 110 pounds, that you had
said that that was like theaccumulation of weight that
you've lost.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
No, no, if I were to go on that metric, I have no
idea.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
I've been thinking that for months now.
Have you not seen my beforepicture?
I have, and that's why I waslike that's not 60 pounds.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
No, I was a round fella.
Yeah, I think, like becausethere are some people out there
who were much heavier than me orAlex ever were, oh yeah, and
they see you as like somebodywho has achieved, because they
see us and they're like, okay,great, whatever.
They went from heavier to inshape.
But they see someone like youwho is probably a little bit

(06:37):
more like them, it's like, oh,maybe I can do it, like this
guy's doing it, and not only ishe doing it, but he's rocking it
.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
I was going to say I saw a comment on one of your
posts, like I think I waslooking today and somebody had
said that they've been like alongtime follower and one of the
biggest things that they'veseen that they really
appreciated was just how yourenergy and your confidence have
continued to increase.
And I feel like that's so coolto see because obviously, like
it's a scary journey and you'rebeing so vulnerable and to see
you just like feeling better,like physically, but then also

(07:08):
mentally and emotionally, islike really, really cool.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
I think one of the video concepts I've been
thinking about is doingsomething like comparing my
original like the first video Iever posted on social media to
now, because the first video Iposted you can like see and hear
how intimidated and terrified Iam of just being in front of a
camera and like it's kind ofcrazy to me because I know the

(07:32):
comment that you're talkingabout, because it hit home,
because that's absolutely true.
Every single week I can feel myconfidence going up.
I get more and more brazen withmy dances and my jokes.
I mean, come on, the mistletoejoke was a little aggressive but
I still went for it.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
In case you guys are wondering, he walks around with
boxers, with mistletoe on hisdangling.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Yes, yes, I did.
And then I told everybody thatthey had to abide by the
mistletoe rule.
But that's, I digress themistletoe rule.
But uh, that's, uh, I digress.
Um, yeah, my, my confidence andmy energy and everything uh has
dramatically improved, and thatis largely because of social
media.
Um, and just, uh, the amount ofsupport and love that I receive

(08:17):
.
I mean in general, of course,my confidence has gone up
because of weight loss as welland just feeling better in my
own skin, which I have a lot of.
But, yeah, I mean, every singleweek that I get in front of the
camera and I do that weeklyweigh-in, 100% of the time I
feel slightly better than I didthe week before the week before.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Can we really quick for the benefit of those
listening, because all five ofus here have made a career out
of social media and filmingourselves every day for the most
part and I think there are alot of people for whom that idea
is terrifying and we're justall regular human beings and we
just decided one day to flip thecamera on.
So I just want to quickly goaround and ask everybody what
was your first video and whatmade you want to do it I'll I'll

(09:09):
.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
I know exactly what my I'll start video is.
I remember it very specifically.
You start yeah, so my firstvideo.
Uh, picture me a thirst trappose.
Uh, no shirt on, obviously, ofcourse.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
What am I gonna wear a fucking shirt when I got abs,
get just go to his profilepicture, y'all exactly, uh, with
a plate of food, you knowpointing at it and then hold on,
no, I'm not even done.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
Then I didn't even want, I didn't want to talk in
like video.
So it was, um, the gorillas.
I played the song gorillas.
Uh, feel good, I went with thatclassic, great song.
No, I know this.
I, I reviewed this in a videolike this is the first video I
ever did and I reviewed.
I was like this is pretty shit,but I'm gonna review it anyway,
because I got no shame and yeah, I just like showed.

(09:57):
And then, yeah, I just did, uh,you know the music, and then
just like filmed myself itfilmed, making it, uh, and and
that was basically it was like20 seconds and that was, and
that was all I had just comefrom instagram, where I really
only posted half naked photos ofmyself, so I figured I might as
well just kind of keep up withthat, and then that's what a lot
of tiktok was at the beginning,and then it slowly morphed away

(10:19):
from that sort of stuff for forthe better.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
You didn't even intend to get into it from the,
uh, the the health perspective,like you eventually got into
nope, not at all.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
It was all gym skits at the beginning it was all gym
dumb, gym skits that I had funmaking that's so interesting to
think about.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
And then here you are doing this all this time later,
that's what I'm saying I myselfmy go ahead.
I'm sorry anyone this.
Uh, sorry you're.
You're streaming from the samewi-fi that they uploaded all the
beheading videos from the early2000s it really does.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
Let me tell you this shit is rough.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm expecting them to put a bang over your head.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
At this, I feel like I'm in prison he really is just
like us hoarding wi-fi as muchas possible, like I've been
taking it from the guard bits bybits, just tiny bits of Wi-Fi
over the time, just enough tostream for this.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Trying to bribe a rat from across the cell to bring
it over to you because you can'treach the key's right there
Come on.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
That's how it feels.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
My first weight loss video was I.
I was pouring over whether ornot it, like is this topic
important enough.
Is the people?
Are the people that see this?
Are they going to be enticed towatch the second one if this
isn't important enough?
But then I thought, if it's tooimportant, that the one I'll
post the next day, people willbe like, well, that one kind of
sucks, not realizing that noone's going to see my first two
videos at all.
That was not even part of mythought process, but I

(11:49):
eventually got to the point thatI'm like you know what, why is
it that everything I do has tobe the greatest thing I've ever
done?
And I filmed one video, no cuts, just walking outside of my old
job and I talked exactly likethat.
Why does every run I have to dohave to be the greatest run
I've ever taken, or every mealI've eaten have to be the

(12:10):
greatest one I've ever had, oranything like that?
And I thought, all right, youknow what?
That's a pretty decent premisefor a video.
And it was just me walking andholding my phone, mostly like I
do to this very day, and so I'mnot terribly like embarrassed by
my first video, because it'sfairly similar to what I do now.

(12:33):
Nice work, mike, and then therewas the vasectomy stuff from
years ago.
We're not going down that road.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Well, of course you know you've got to bring up the
vasectomy stuff.
That was the real first time.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
We're not going to go on a tangent about vasectomies
today.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
I didn't have the kind of fear in front of the
camera that I think many otherpeople do.
You're ruining all the fun.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
I know the vasectomy fun.
What the hell.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Well, let's talk about it.
Yeah, let's get into it.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
We already had like a 30 minute conversation about it
on my podcast.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
There's a firm moratorium.
They're my balls, my rules.
We don't talk about themanymore.
If you want to go down thatrabbit hole, you type in Mike
Pridgen vasectomy onto Google.
Go down that and leaveeverybody alone.
You'll find everything you needto know about me and my nuts.
But Alex, what about you?
What was your first video here?
What made you want to do it?

Speaker 1 (13:23):
I honestly can't recall what my first video was,
because I posted on instagramfirst and I was doing photos.
I was similar to liam where Iwas doing like thirst trappy,
but mine weren't actually thirsttraps, so don't it, don't go
back scrolling y'all, um, but itwas literally just me flexing
in the mirror.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Do you think I got the bikini photo?

Speaker 1 (13:43):
okay, no, that was a recent one, and I know exactly
which video you used to get itso I know, um, anyways, um, but
no, I started with just mirrorselfies for photos, and then one
of my first videos on tiktokwas literally just I was, it was
, covid was happening and so Iwas.

(14:04):
Oh, should I not say that word?

Speaker 2 (14:06):
What's COVID?

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Sometimes, the thing was happening the thing, the
great, the great, panoramic, umand so and so, um, I was alone
in a studio apartment.
I was waiting for that tohappen, cause I saw him frozen,
um the, and so I was reallybored and lonely and so I
literally just made a videoabout Lululemon, because I used
to work there and so I was doinglike Lululemon tips on how

(14:32):
people could like get more bangfor their buck and stuff like
that.
And it just went super viraland I was like oh gosh, oops.
And then I started posting.
I was like, oh, ok,no-transcript, I just wanted

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people to know that they weren'talone on their fitness journey.
I think that was the biggestthing is I was so confused and,
as lame as that sounds, Iliterally still do it for the
same reason.
It's just my content has justgotten better, me too, me too
Same thing.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
There was no content of the kind that we made.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Not that we're super special or anything, but there's
a lot of bullies out there.
Yeah, it's the first.
So I had the lululemon stuffand like random stuff do really
well, especially on tiktok,because I started posting reels,
like once they were there.
And then the video thatactually like my first video to
get like five million viewsbecause, to be fair, like the,
the uh lululemon ones did getlike 5 million views because, to
be fair, like the, theLululemon ones did get like
millions of views and peoplewere like oh my God, pants.
But the one that got like 5million views was me showing my

(15:52):
stomach and I was literally likeme before I eat versus me after
and it was like flat stomachand then it was like my stomach
being bloated and stuff and likeI just started.
I literally started doingUnposed and Unbothered then so
back in like 2020.
And then I've just been doingit for four years where I just
always have shown my bodychanging.
So it's just it's been similarstuff, it's just kind of it's

(16:14):
evolved Like literally we werejust talking and I think this is
so important to share with yourquestion, which is like my
first videos and pictures wereme kind of just flexing, not
really actually adding value.
It was kind of just me as ahuman being.
And then, as I started to dolike the sounds and stuff, it
made sense for content at thetime but, like people still want

(16:37):
to connect with people and sowe were having the conversation
before we hit record where I waslike I need to start doing
consistently more talking videosbecause that's what people want
and honestly it's good, as,like somebody who creates
content and I do do talkingvideos when they're like
reactions and stuff but I don'tdo a lot when it's me just being

(16:57):
like me, and so it's stillscary and it feels uncomfortable
because it is easier for peopleto judge you.
Because now it's like OK, thisis actually me.
What if people don't like meand people aren't going to?
So that's OK.
But yeah, I think it'simportant to share that like.
Even as somebody who's createdcontent this long, it's it's

(17:18):
still scary to like change andto evolve and do that stuff.
But I don't know it's like ifyou really want to help people,
because the thing and likehelping people doesn't have to
be educating, it could be youwant to entertain them, you want
to connect with them, you wantto share something that you
learned, like it could beanything, but I think people get
so in their heads about it.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
I don't do much educating.
It's a lot of mindset.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
You're so motivational and inspirational
lie, you're so motivational andinspirational so it's like your
education is different.
No, it is a form of education,because you're doing like mental
education.
Well, I wasn't trying to likedownplay what I do.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
I've just got like a different angle on things
because it's for once, I'mactually not downplaying myself
but.
I appreciate the the catch,though, because it it means a
lot, but it, yeah, like it's.
It's not so much that I'mfocusing on like the tactical
stuff or the practical stuff,it's more so, like the other day
I just posted a thing aboutlike your self-hatred is

(18:13):
actually very selfish.
Like for you to place yourselfat the epicenter of someone
else's pain and treat it as somesort of noble act, that you're
just going to hate yourself andhold on to a version of yourself
that caused that pain thatyou're perceiving that's really
selfish, selfish thing to do,and I got a few messages back
about that.
It's like you know what.
You're kind of right, like Ithought I was doing something to

(18:36):
benefit others, but to hold onto a version of myself that hurt
those people instead ofbecoming a version of myself
that never would again.
You know what was I reallydoing, and it's.
That's not something that Ithink is really part of the
weight loss conversation, atleast as far as I've seen, um,
but it's.
It's something that I know Ineeded back in the day.

(18:57):
So I'm I'm trying to that'sreally what I'm trying to
deliver is all the stuff that Ididn't hear when I needed to
hear.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
I think that's the biggest, the best way that
people can go about makingcontent, especially like cause I
know, jesse, obviously you're,you're still technically on your
journey, but, like for anyonewho's maybe past their journey
who's like, well, I'm already,I'm not in this now it's not as
exciting to share, cause.
I know I feel that waysometimes.
I'm like, like you said, you'relike they already lost the
weight, they're done with it.
But it's like I just thinkabout what did I need to hear

(19:26):
and what do I wish I heard, andlike I still share stuff from
the viewpoint of because I'm anolder sister and so my sisters
are 10 and 12.
And I'm like, what do my littlesisters need to hear?
As, like, growing up in a worldwhere people are still body
shaming and fear-mongering, foodand doing these things, like
what do I wish they knew.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
That's literally.
I have a video where Iliterally say that my whole
content, whenever I make a video, my thought process is what did
old me need to hear what?
What would old me haveresonated with?
What would I have foundvaluable, what would have made
me laugh and just made meconnect to the content?
And that's why I put a lot ofhumor in my content, because

(20:03):
that's what I resonate withpersonally, because I, when
things make me laugh, it makesme think about it.
So I'm, I intentionally addhumor to my content.
People think that it's with thegoal of being more engaging or
you know some methodical socialmedia bullshit, but ultimately
it's because that's what old mewould have wanted and that's

(20:24):
what old me would have foundvalue in and connected with and
maybe learned something.
So every piece of content I makeis just messages to that former
self, and I can never help himturn things around earlier, but
I can help other people do so.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
I think that's why we all like get along so well,
because I feel like that's whatwe all kind of do, is like we
like to blend education andentertainment together Because
it's like it's just it's morefun.
I'm like I hated school.
I hated it.
It was so boring.
I felt like I had such astruggle to like pay attention
and I was like I wish peoplelike when they taught me stuff.
It was like entertaining and solike.

(21:02):
That's why I'm like let's makeit fun.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Rob like entertaining and so like.
That's why I'm like, let's makeit fun, rob does that really
well and I this is, I think, agood way to get into your first
videos and what got you started,because you do that education
plus the entertainment reallywell damn like you know it used
to work, where I just keep quiet, keep my head down, nobody asks
me anything, no, fucking shityeah

Speaker 3 (21:24):
um, I also don't know what my first video was, but,
uh, my reason for posting wasbecause I I have the massive
journey with social anxietydisorder and I was looking at
TikTok, started the thing, thepanoramic and I said to myself

(21:50):
you know what, putting somethingon the internet is fucking
scary, but you know what?
No one's going to see it anyway.
Nobody ever sees the firstvideos from people or stuff like
that.
And so I'm going to do it.
I'm just going to make a videojust to push myself out of my
boundaries, and so I did.
And then people discovered itand actually liked it and

(22:12):
fricking took off.
So I don't know specificallywhat the first video was, but I
started out talking about, um,extra exercise, science, um,
some of the same stuff about,like, how metabolism works and
stuff, physiotherapy, transrights, toxic masculinity.
So there's still a fair amountof the same stuff that I talked

(22:35):
about today.
Which hilarious.
It's always hilarious to mewhen I make a video about toxic
masculinity or trans rights andsomeone new to my page pipes in
with I don't like this.
I think you should just stickto talking about diet.
It's like dude.
Literally.
One of my first ever viralvideos was me talking about how

(22:59):
the x, x, x, y chromosome isjust a simplified thing taught,
taught in sex ed in grade six,and it's way more complicated
than that.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
It's like you know, zooming out and looking at the
earth and saying, well, theearth is clearly made of that
green stuff and that blue stuff.
I like that, Like well, Isuppose so.
But like, let's zoom in alittle bit, there's people down
there.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
At one point or another, I stopped talking about
workouts a lot, because I tooka step back and I was like, ok,
there are 500,000 people on thisapp that are talking about
different workouts.
They're all fine, there'snothing new here.
The only way to push a workoutis just to be like, oh, you need

(23:44):
to do this to optimize yourstuff.
And I was like I don't want tobe that person.
No, and so I started movingtowards the food stuff, because
at that point, you're becomingthe opposite of that person
where they're doing, oh,everything's toxic, blah, blah,

(24:04):
blah, and you get to step in andbe like no, it's very relative
to dose and all these otherfancy things.
It's not black and white.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
I've been looking at all this optimization content
Cause you, you know you'll seesome some shredded gym bro like
filming themselves doing triceprope pull downs in the gym, and
then they'll say like if you doit this way you're actually
leaving 20% of gains on thegroup, but if you do it this way
, you know it's.
It's all arbitrary numbers.
So I was thinking like I thinkthere might be a gap in the

(24:32):
market for not so much antioptimization content but like
pro just being in the gymcontent.
Here's a movement you can do.
Is it the most optimal?
I don't know, but I've builtsome good muscle doing it and I
feel good.
So here's something that youcould do if you're feeling a
little bit overwhelmed.

(24:53):
I don't know.
It's something I'm thinkingabout.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
That's the hard thing for consumers, because they
need to figure out who are thesepeople speaking to and it's
like oh, I don't think that's me, but a lot of times people have
a hard time doing that andbeing like I don't know what
this content is for me, becausethey're like I want to get into
the gym, I want to work out.
Oh, I want to do the best thatI can.
I need to do these optimalthings, when the reality is 99%

(25:21):
of people who want to go to thegym lose weight, build muscle,
get in shape, tone up, whateverit is that you want to do 99% of
those people just need to eatmostly whole, nutrient-dense
foods and still incorporate theones that they love, potentially
work on their relationship withfood and or themselves.
Go to the gym like three timesa week at least and like that's

(25:43):
actually more than enough.
Walk a little bit each day,make sure you sleep and chill
the fuck out all the boringstuff it's.
It's literally just like theboring shit, but it's the
optimization movement that'shappening and the over
complication movement that'shappening, or even
oversimplification of caloriesin versus calories out, using
you being a calorie deficit, andit's like, okay, but I I feel

(26:07):
like I'm in a calorie deficit,so I don't understand what I'm
doing wrong.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
And then you just feel like you're being yelled at
for doing and then you getsomebody on the opposite end,
that's saying the caloriedeficit doesn't work I.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
I already know who's like we're talking about there's
a lot of people talking aboutit the minute I did carnivore
the minute.
I did carniv.
The calorie deficit didn'tmatter.
I'm like that's not whathappens.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
The thing is, what they're selling is a very quick
amount of scale weight loss in ashort amount of time.
Not a lot of weight loss in ashort amount, but a very
significant amount in a shortamount of time, because when you
switch on to carnivore, youtend to lose fairly quickly is
it permanent weight?

Speaker 1 (26:47):
loss no, not fat but it's.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
It's easy to sell that to somebody.
They see it happen, they seefive or six to ten pounds drop
on the scale and they go, huh,that worked, I got my money.
Then they gain the weight backand then they're like, well, I
better pay that person againthey're also selling the fad
diet.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
It's the same concept , because they're selling really
rigid rules around food thatmake it easier for people to
adhere, and carnivore isextremely satiating because of
the protein and fat content, andso it's harder to overeat.
But then the reality is so manyof these carnivore zealots are
nutrient deficient in manydifferent things, and also a lot

(27:26):
of them literally share theircheat days or their cheat meals,
and I'm like, if you are doingany sort of diet that requires
you, okay, the balloons come atthat moment that requires you to
have a cheat day or a cheatmeal.
That's not a lifestyle.
You still have a fucked uprelationship with food.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Anytime somebody uses the word cheat with food.
It bothers me, like yeah, justjust eat food in moderation.
I mean he said the thing eatfood in moderation.
Like, honestly, it's really notas difficult as everybody
thinks it and and it's.
It's frustrating because thisgoes back to the optimization
thing.
Like you don't need to optimizewhat you're eating.

(28:09):
You need to eat normal foodmajority of the time, like
that's really all it is.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah, I just did a whole podcast episode about
yo-yo dieting and like foodnoise, and it was the main
things that I covered was thefact that, like from coaching,
we've learned that like the mainsix pillars of food noise this
is not incorporating any sort oflike the neuroscience aspect of
it, where people do have kindof the mental side of it, like

(28:36):
that, but there is likerelationship with food.
There's like the binge eating,which kind of is its own
separate entity but also canfall under relationship with
food.
There's under eating, so severeunder eating is obviously going
to cause food noise andterrible relationship with food.
And then there was like acouple other ones that I named
that I need to list in front ofme to remember at this point.
But it's the thing.

(28:58):
The reason I bring that up is somany people think that there's
something wrong with thembecause they try eating whole,
nutrient dense foods and they'relike, well, but I'm not losing
the weight and it's like, okay,well, now are you restricting
yourself?
Now do you have this badrelationship and like, is it
calorie wise or is it even likefood labeling wise?
And so you have to understandthat yes, it is simple, but also

(29:21):
it's still going to be uniqueto whatever your situation is,
and so that's where you need tofigure that out.
But giving yourself more rules,more things to fear, isn't
going to help you, if anythingis going to make it worse.
So you just need to figure outwhat you need to work on.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
I think the food noise is an interesting topic
that a lot of people completelymisunderstand, especially people
that just don't experience it.
I think that, as somebody wholived at 500 plus pounds,
obviously food noise was a verydifficult thing for me to get
past.
I made a video the other daytalking about how I went to the
movie theater and I wasstruggling with whether or not I

(30:00):
could eat popcorn because itfelt like this long mathematical
equation like can I get these700 calories in?
What do I have to subtract Allthis stuff right?
And after I watched that, likeafter I made that video and I
watched it back, I realized inmy head I've replaced my food
noise with other food noise,rather than having food noise

(30:20):
telling me I need to eat foodnow.
It's going well shit.
What is the math on this?
How many calories are in this?
How can I eat it?
And it's it's literally justone noise replaced with another,
which I think is interesting.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah, didn't you get the popcorn that day too?

Speaker 4 (30:36):
I did.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, love that for you, thank you.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
It was delicious.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, as yeah, as it should be, because it's not that
serious and it's like, andthat's not.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
I want to make it clear when I say it's not that I
know.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
I want to make it clear, though when I say it's
not that serious, it's notbelittling your experience that
you had.
It's to say the food shouldn'tbe that serious and like.
I've had conversations withpeople who are scared to track
macros because they've had a badexperience with it and I'm like
, cool, you don't have to.
And then they're like, yeah,but this person did it.
And I'm like just becausesomebody else did it doesn't

(31:10):
mean you need to do it.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Your experience isn't their experience.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, and I'm like, stop trying to make it yours.
Why does it have to be?

Speaker 2 (31:18):
To any people listening to us right now that
might be afraid of trackingtheir macros or their calories.
You're starting too soon.
With my clients we work on thehabits first and then we assign
numbers to it.
If we assign numbers to itfirst, we're just attaching a
point system to a series ofhabits that we already hate.
So we work on solidifying thehabits first With my one-to-one

(31:41):
clients.
We don't usually start trackinguntil maybe halfway through
Some clients we don't usuallystart tracking until maybe
halfway through Some clients wenever even track at all and they
see steady progress and it'sfine.
It's.
You know, with every personit's going to be different.
If you're thinking abouttracking, I think it can be a
great tool if you approach itproperly.
But work on the habits withoutnumbers first, you know.
Because right now, whether ornot you're tracking a binge,

(32:05):
it's still a binge and you'regoing to feel shittier about it
when there's numbers on it.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
So let's work on why it is that the binge is
happening you know, somewherefurther down the process where
it's like, okay, I thought youwould be a little bit more
towards your goal than this.
So maybe we need to take alittle deeper dive into

(32:32):
something.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
I can draw an allegory to any of you listening
that are fans of spaceexploration.
When they send a satellite outinto orbit or beyond, they will
send it with a finite amount offuel.
Now, once it's out there andit's going in one direction,

(32:54):
they don't need fuel anymore.
It'll keep going that way.
But if they want to divertcourse, they will use a tiny
little bit of fuel just enoughto puff it off to the left, and
suddenly they're going into adifferent star system.
It's the same thing, I believe,with calorie tracking.
You don't?
I personally, I will trackevery once in a while, just to

(33:15):
make sure I'm still on course.
And then I will.
I will allow my velocity tocontinue me forward, Like right
now I'm I'm in a period whereI'm tracking.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
It's been a while since I've tracked, but I want
to make sure that I'm in ahealthy deficit because for the
first time, I'm trying toactually trim off a couple of
pounds, and so I'm tracking herefor you.
Someone wants to get a beachbody ready?
Hey yo.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Well, I'm in Texas and it's hot as hell here every
single day.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
I was like it's still hot.
It's not even like it's.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Every day it's sweaty as I can go outside and post
some Liam-esque thirst traps.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Jesse knows the struggle.
We get like one week during thesummer that we get their chance
, so gotta be ready for it.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
If you want to trade, I'm all in, but that means we
also get your health care.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
No, I'll take your health care any day, no, I'll
take your healthcare anyway.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
No, I'm not going.
No, yeah, I'm with Rob, I'mhappy in Canada.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Curses.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
We almost got him Alex Next time for sure, I don't
even think kinda, to be honest,what were you going to?
I think Jesse was going to saysomething about what you were
saying.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
I was going to say I haven't tracked all year and
people are usually surprised tohear that.
But I think that once you getto a point of tracking for long
enough, you kind of just canintuitively determine how much
food to eat.
So, even though I made thatreal, I do kind of keep track of
my calories, in the sense thatI have a meal, I know that this

(34:43):
meal is roughly 800 calories.
I know how many calories are inthis popcorn or this snack that
I want.
I know how many calories are inthe foods that I'm eating, and
I still weigh my food, but Idon't track it.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
I think that's a really important reminder for
people, because a lot of peopleI feel like intuitive eating has
kind of gone out of being aspopular as it used to, which is
fine with me, because I thinkthat there's such a
misunderstanding aroundintuitive eating because people
just think, like you just needto listen to your body, but so
many people, similar to the foodnoise conversation, haven't

(35:15):
been taught how to regulatetheir hunger cues how to
actually build a balanced meal,Like people really don't
understand that, to quote, eatintuitively you mean like just
live life, like many of us donow, is you still have to eat
mostly whole, nutrient-densefoods.
You still have to get enoughsleep so that way your hunger
hormones aren't all jacked up.
You still have to have ahealthy relationship with foods.

(35:37):
You're not stress eating oryou're not like leaning into
food during any sort of likeemotion or turmoil.
And you also have to make surethat you have a good
understanding of like energybalance, Like the thing is cause
I could eat exactly the samebut say I go through a period
where I'm moving a lot less.
I'm going to gain weight, Likeit's just going to happen, but
my hunger is not naturally goingto regulate right away and so

(35:58):
I'm going to still feel thisneed to eat more food even
though I don't need it.
And so it's just like.
Intuitive eating is morecomplex than the internet had
liked to make it seem.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
To those of you out there who may have a hundred
pounds or more to lose mybrother in Christ, let's just
have a moment.
I'm going to hold your hand whenI say this.
You have not felt hunger infive years.
You have not allowed yourselfto feel hunger.
And this is me.
I'm throwing.
I am using a slingshot to throwpebbles across a glass house
right now.
I did not allow myself to feelhunger for many years, so not a

(36:34):
single shot.
Was I about to start listeningto my hunger cues?
Hunger for me was can I fitanother bite in without being
worried that my stomach is goingto burst?
You've not been familiar withyour hunger signals yet.
Intuitive eating is not aswitch that you can flip on and
off.
It's something that you have totrain.
It is a skill.
So when you have beenconstantly grazing and eating

(36:55):
for years and not allowedyourself to feel hunger at all,
you can't just switch tointuitive eating suddenly.
You don't know what that means.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Intuitive eating requires just being
significantly more methodicaland calculated about what you're
eating, and that's notsomething that a lot of people
realize.
They hear intuitive eating.
They hear you know just eatuntil you're full, don't
continue eating Like it's notthat simple.
It still requires a lot ofthought towards food.
It requires that extra effortof am I eating right now because

(37:29):
I'm hungry and full is not afactor in whether or not we
stopped.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Exactly that was the thing I ate way past being full.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Full is also relative to a lot of different things.
If two people had the exactsame meal, one of them would
feel full faster than the otherif they were eating at different
speeds.
If you eat slower, you're goingto also depending on their
hormones.
Let that, also depending ontheir hormones.
But if you're eating slower,you're going to allow your body
to actually regulate and giveyou that fullness feeling,

(38:01):
whereas if you're shoveling downthings down your throat, then
you're going to be full beforeyou know it yeah, I think that,
and this isn't to like say thatit's not possible.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
This isn't to say again this the funny thing about
like how I started this bysaying like it's not that
serious.
It's not that serious and it'snot as complicated as people
like to make it, but it ishighly individual.
So, like everything we'resaying, if it resonates with you
, if you're like that soundslike me, that's something I like
vibe with, or like this is thestruggle that I have.

(38:33):
Lean into that aspect and don'tmake all the other problems
that we mentioned your problem,because it doesn't need to be Um
, but also, even, as you like,continue your journey.
Just remember that, like, it'salso normal for it to like
change and for it to shift,because I've gone through binge
eating, I've gone throughorthorexia, I've gone through

(38:54):
just over training like crazyand being like obsessed with,
like the gym, depression, likeall those things, and so it's
always changing.
But just learning to navigatethat, I think, is very important
.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
There's a reason that , if you ask any one of us for
advice, the advice is not onlygoing to be different, but it's
also going to start with.
It depends, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
You can always tell a good coach by how they answer a
question, and it better alwaysstart with it depends.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
It's wild how many people reach out and ask for
advice without giving you anyinformation.
It's like I can't answer thatyeah like I'm sorry, but you're
gonna have to give me a way morethan that to be able to help
you yeah yeah but it's also likewe just weren't.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
I think so many people weren't taught that, like
I, I tell people the only badquestion is the one you don't
ask.
And the funny thing is a lot ofpeople are like, yeah, but
there's like Google-ablequestions, like that's a very
common thing that I hear and I'mlike have you Googled stuff
before?
Have you been like, yes,sometimes the right answer is
the first one, but like alsomany people don't know that and

(40:03):
like they're literally askingyou because they trust you, they
believe in you, they value you.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
So can't you just answer the question?
We could put this to the testright now.
Somebody Google.
Is the carnivore diet good?

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Oh gosh.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Let's see what comes up.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
See, when you do something like that, you're
already subjecting your resultsto a confirmation bias.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
That's my point, subjecting your results to a
confirmation bias.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
That's my point.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
The carnivore diet, which consists of consuming only
meat and animal products, isgenerally considered unhealthy
by medical experts andregistered dietitians.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Google's figuring it out.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
There we go, but did you go into incognito before you
did that?

Speaker 4 (40:40):
Also, if you add Paul Saladino to it, what comes up?

Speaker 2 (40:43):
You could type in benefits of the carnivore diet
and you will find things toconfirm your bias.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
A hundred percent.
A hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, so using neutral language in a search is
really important.
Literacy is so important ineducation.
It's not just reading theinformation, but understanding
what it is that you're receivingand the way that you interpret
it like two people can read thesame study and get two different
results from just how they'veinterpreted what they read and

(41:12):
it's just trying to enter thingsfrom as neutral of a standpoint
as possible.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
we're all subject to confirmation bias but to try to
be as neutral, is that a lot ofpeople can't go into things with
a neutral mindset.
Most people will be kind of duginto their opinion or what they
think is true and then,regardless of the facts or
information put in front of them, they're just dug in and that's
their opinion forever.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
We all love being right.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
We do.
We're all unconsciouscheerleaders of our own opinions
.
That's just reality of beinghuman cheerleaders of our own
opinions.
That's just reality of beinghuman.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
I will say that unequivocally back to the future
is the greatest film to ever bemade, followed by I'm a fan of
Shawshank Redemption, to becompletely honest, but that
could be number four.
I'm going Four.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
There's three of these.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yeah, yeah, ooh, money ball Interesting.
All right, robert, I Robert,I'm not a movie person.
You don't like any movies atall.
I mean I like movies.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
He's like I've watched one in my life.
Yeah, I like the one with theactor Lord of the Rings, harry
Potter Star.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Wars.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Sure, we'll go with one of those.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
I know what those are .
Have you seen Lord of the Rings?

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Oh, I was about to question this whole Viking thing
going on.
I don't know why Viking'srelevant to Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
I was going to ask what is?
I was going to question yougoing to TwitchCon?

Speaker 1 (42:35):
I feel like TwitchCon is a Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
It's a gaming thing.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, but still I don't know.
Lord of the Rings gamers, Idon't know, is that bad?

Speaker 3 (42:43):
No, you want to ask me about my favorite games?

Speaker 4 (42:45):
No, we're going somewhere.
If you're nerdy, you have tolike Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
I love Lord of the Rings.
I can quote pretty much allthree extended editions like
almost word for word.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
I haven't seen it.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
All right, all right.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
How long do we have left in the podcast?

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Harry Potter.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Alex, tell me what is on page 244 of the New Two
Towers.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Could you imagine if I actually could just like pull
that out?
First of all, I said the movies, not the book.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
That would be like some suits level shit right
there.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
See, that's such a cool.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
If I could have a superpower like a reasonable one
, it would be that, mike Ross,for sure, that would be so sweet
to have that kind of memory.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah, unreasonable, I just want to fly you could just
go anywhere you want.
See, but I feel like flyingplaces would be so much more fun
.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
Yeah, but teleporting is no time I'm going to be
super honest.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
I'd want to homelander the shit out of this
world.
If I was homelander Like, comeon, anyone, the boys.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
I'm teleporting into a bank vault and then I'm
teleporting to Mexico.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
I want the power to control minds, but the only mind
that I'll control is mine, andI will just make it not anxious.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
I want that power.
I'm with Mike on that.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
That is a superpower, superpower.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
What superpower do you want teleported in?

Speaker 5 (44:07):
I've been on tech support with at&t for the past
like 30 minutes.
It's been real fun way missedso much.
I basically just had to movethe modem until it's having
coitus with my fucking tower youneed the, the antenna for it.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Clear or boosters your internet is clearly much
better.

Speaker 5 (44:25):
Just based on the intro.
This is clearly significantlybetter.
The internet is good, it's just.
My tower has about a distanceof six feet.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
I guess it's because you also have a bunch of
Bluetooth things connected, sothere's a lot of interference
going on there.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Wow, well, great to have you back, liam.
You missed a lot.
Be the in moderation patreoncontent.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
It's just going to be a half hour of you very
frustrated moving a modem backand forth on this call with at&t
.
Is it good there?

Speaker 5 (44:56):
no, it's not good.
If, if, if, if we had just lettesla do his thing, all internet
and electricity would have beenfree unfortunately, we will let
the wrong tesla do his thingand not have garbage trucks
driving on the highway in Texas.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
You know, I bet there's so many people who don't
realize about Tesla like NikolaTesla.

Speaker 5 (45:16):
Oh, don't, oh, like you, just don't know Immediately
associate to Elon yeah, that'ssad.
Nikola Tesla was a weird dudeand I fucking love him like he
was clearly like on the spectrum.
He had like so many issues withtouch.
He couldn't touch hair.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
He could not touch hair why do you know this about
him?
Oh, I know a lot about tesla.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
He's a fascinating character I just watched.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
I mostly learned about him, first from the
prestige, and then I was like,who is this human?
And then I, then I looked athim more, some.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
Some of his ideas were a little out there and
probably would never haveactually come to fruition, but
like a lot of it, he I mean hewas he was very smart, very
ahead of his time, but he sidedwith the basically the wrong
rich guy and he got fuckingsmooshed like a bug.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
And he died.
Penniless Tesla is to Liam.
What Tesla is to Liam whatHarry Potter is to you.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
I don't nerd out that hard on Harry Potter.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Okay, lord of the Rings is to you.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
I, I, I, just I greatly appreciate the movies.
I watch them all once a year,just cause my dog's name is
Chewbacca.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
Hello kitty.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Okay, now I've gone too far.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Tesla is to you ah, there we go.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
No, I do love.
I can quote mostly Harry Potterand Lord of the Rings, but that
doesn't.
Is it good?

Speaker 5 (46:35):
I think that's a lot of are you gonna see the new
Lord of the.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Rings.
I saw it already.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
I saw it already sorry, I haven't seen it.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
I'm looking forward to it, it's mediocre uh, well,
I'm no longer looking forward toit.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
I hope it's like that , alex no because they kind of
like they kind of dragged somestuff out.
There's a couple likereferences to the original
movies which I appreciated.
Like we learn where the namefor helms deep comes from we.
There's a couple references tolike gandalf and stuff like that
, but that's like.
Other than that, the reason ithappens is kind of weird.

(47:12):
Like the reason the turmoilhappens is kind of like get over
it respectfully and that peopleare going to hear that and
watch the movie and be like yousound like such an asshole
because the reason is actuallyreally fucked up.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
But to be fair, you can't take a review of lord of
the rings from a fan of lord ofthe rings same with star wars
because all we're gonna say isit sucks no, I did not say it
sucks.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
I said it's mediocre it's the same thing.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Yeah, get it right, mike that's not.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
That is not the same thing not the same thing, no
like uh, what's the, what's thecraven, craven, sucked I would
rather watch a sucky movie thana mediocre movie, because at
least if it's really really badyou'll get some like reverse
value.

Speaker 5 (47:52):
It depends on the type of video game.
It depends on the type of suck.
If it's a good sucker bad, suckcraven is like comically bad, I
love it's like, madame webbwell, it is, madame webb, bad,
but a bad suck could also be a.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
It all depends he's like it's real sloppy, you know
like.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
That's why I like mystery science theater.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
That's one of my favorite shows, yeah so great
like just rip it, riffing onterrible movies there you go
there, there's my favoritethere's my favorite movie is
just mystery, science theater ingeneral I thought you meant
that you just like watching allthe movie theater sloppy that
was happening in the front seat.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Oh, my lord, why would they be in the front seat?
They'd be all the way in theback.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
We only see the people in the front seat what
movie theater are you going to?

Speaker 2 (48:33):
no, we're in the back seat.
We're watching the vine.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
You have to be in the back seat if you have to be in
the back to not get kicked outof the movie theater for doing
that.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Yeah, if you're a bitch, you definitely have to be
in the back seat buck up, getbrave.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
Just go into the bathroom like normal people
jesse, how was moana 2?

Speaker 4 (48:55):
it was fantastic, thank you welcome back, so wait
are we a nutrition and fitnesspodcast or

Speaker 5 (49:03):
we just do movie reviews now because I'm totally
fine just doing movie reviews.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
I can keep going with the movie reviews.
We talked a little bit aboutintuitive eating.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Die hard, die hard.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
I don't stand by that , even in the slightest as a
Harry Potter fan.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Harry Potter movies are not Christmas movies there
just happens to be time wheresnow appears, and it's Christmas
time in the movie I just had tosay Die Hard because it's a
meme thing, oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:31):
It's not a Christmas movie.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
And even does Gremlins count as a Christmas
movie?

Speaker 5 (49:35):
I don't think so.
I would say Home Alone isprobably my favorite Home.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Alone is a Christmas movie.
Does that count?
I feel like that one counts.
Home Alone is a Christmas movie.

Speaker 5 (49:41):
It just kind of happens at Christmas again.
So like why is that one aChristmas movie, though?
No?

Speaker 1 (49:45):
because he's like celebrating Christmas, yeah,
like it's around ChristmasGetting things in the face?

Speaker 3 (49:52):
No, because he like is celebrating it.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
You have to see a Christmas tree and you have to
see gifts.

Speaker 5 (49:56):
If you see both of those, things that can count as
a Christmas movie there.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
They also play Christmas music in Die Hard.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
So like it kind of happens during Christmas and
there's things because ofChristmas, things are shut down.
I kind of feel like it's aChristmas movie.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
I think a Christmas movie has to actually celebrate
Christmas.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Like it needs to be acknowledged yeah that's fair.
I like Christmas with theCranks, because Home.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
Alone.
They do celebrate Christmas themorning that they're all
together.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
And they're leaving because of Christmas.
They're like going to visitbecause of Christmas and they're
leaving because of christmas.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
They're like going to visit because of christmas.

Speaker 5 (50:28):
So like I think, an underrated but quality one is
christmas with the cranks.
I've never seen that.
I don't think I've ever seenthat I did see.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
It would surprise you if I said I never seen it no,
not at all it's worth watchingI'm saying the

Speaker 5 (50:38):
other tim allen.
Though what is it?

Speaker 1 (50:40):
and the grinch, santa claus santa claus one two there
is no the it's's just SantaClaus.

Speaker 5 (50:45):
Is no the a Santa Claus or it's just Santa Claus?
It's just Santa Claus, the onewith Tim Allen and it has the E.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Yeah, I thought it was the Santa Claus Because it's
the clause like in a contract.
That's why it's spelled thatway, I don't think there is a
the Okay, what about NightmareBefore Christmas?
Oh, you know, I stand correct.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
No, I feel like Nightmare Before.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Christmas is?
No, there isn't, it's justSanta Claus.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
No, the Disney one is the Santa Claus.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Yeah, it's the, because it's a double entendre
to a contract.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
There's a clause.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
The cover of the film there is no the oh, he's
blocking it.
The the is behind him.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
Oh, so that's number two, not the first one him also.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
That's number two, not the first one.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Yeah, that's right.
That's the sequel, obviously,alex.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
That's why, oh, you're right, I stand corrected
the santa claus, the santa clausI stand corrected, I'm glad
this podcast could go couldachieve something for me people.
We did actually have a reallygreat conversation on intuitive
eating and I just come back forthe bullshit, because that's my
favorite part.
Yeah, we talked about foodnoise.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
We talked about binge eating.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
We talked about content creation.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
We actually had really insightful conversations
while you were gone.

Speaker 5 (51:55):
No you do that part, I come in and I want to chat
about fucking Lord of the Ringsand the Santa Claus.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Great, so the extended versions are like three
and a half hours long.

Speaker 5 (52:04):
And I will watch every one of them.
I've seen all of them.
I've seen them many times.
They're such good movies.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
They are Quality films.
Whenever I go on road trips Ijust play them and in my brain
I'm like, okay, so if I have 12hours left, that means that I
can get through the first twoand most of the third one.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
What are you anxious?
I'm debating and most of thethird one.
What are you?
I'm debating?
I did.
Everybody says don't read it.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
I don't recommend it.
He spends spent a lot of timeon those books.
Right, it's a lot of, it's abig time commitment.
Personally, I read them when Iwas in like elementary school.
I blame my dad.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
For a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Yeah, there's more, but this is my first.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
On the other hand, the books also have all the
stuff that the movies cut out.
There is a lot of stuff cut outlike a lot.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
That's why I'm excited for the harry potter
show.
Oh right, they are doingbecause they're making like 10
seasons are they doing castingright now, so it's gonna be a
while yeah, so they're actuallytrying to project it, I think
for 2026, but so they're gonnastart filming very quickly
because obviously the kids haveto be really young and
apparently they're gonna turnwell, and that's what's wild.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
I'm like how the fuck you're gonna do 10 seasons with
these little kiddos who aresupposed to be like 13 and then
18 by the end of it bro, thosekids, those kids life that's
gonna be rough because they'regonna be filming seasons one and
seasons eight at the same timeand like it's going to be
fucking exhaust, like allthey're going to be doing is
filming and probably likeschoolwork and that's it.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
I'm not sure, but look at Daniel Radcliffe, I'm
sure he's set for life.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
He's been set for life.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying,right, like, yeah, like a
hundred million dollars it costsyou.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
It'll cost you five years of your life, but then
you're good forever.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Well, that's different.
That's the movies.
This is just a TV show.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
The show's going to be interesting from a pay
structure.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
I guarantee whatever kids are in this show are going
to be set for life.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
They're not paying them.
Daniel Radcliffe money that'sdebatable.
You get residuals on TV.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Not as much anymore because of the way that
streaming services go.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
Oh fair.
Yeah oh fair, yeah, sostreaming services really messed
up the way that people are paidfor movies and still,
regardless, they're gonna make ashit.
I mean I would still.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
I if I, if I had a kid who was 13 years old, I'd
make them audition and I'd belike, okay, what needs to happen
for this to this to happen?
I don't know, man.

Speaker 5 (54:20):
I've seen the fucking history of child actors and
that shit looks rough as fuckyeah, we just talked about home
alone.
How's macaulay culkin doing I?

Speaker 1 (54:27):
mean he's had some.
He's good now with brenda song.
He's doing better now but likehe had some rough stints for a
while.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
There's also like that kid from the the mighty
ducks that's in jail, and likethere's a lot of child actors
that did one of the kids fromharry potter was in jail, yeah
it was crab.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
He went to jail and, like in the last movie, they
just replaced him with a blackguy these kids are gonna get
hooked on like harry potterdrugs.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
So they're gonna get strung out on like mug bottoms
and gloobly bits and butterbeeryeah, butterbeer, yeah,
something from the actual movies.
I'm just over here making noise, but it that's I.
I I know that they're notmaking a Harry Potter sitcom,
but hear me out, oh God, it waslike a three camera family, like

(55:11):
full house style sitcom.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
I would watch the shit out of that.

Speaker 5 (55:16):
Can I tell you my favorite?

Speaker 4 (55:17):
Wait, wait.

Speaker 5 (55:18):
Can I say my favorite sitcom of all time.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Oh God, yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
So, it was a British show and it was called heil
honey.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
I'm home, we've talked about it before, but it's
the greatest thing ever now.

Speaker 5 (55:34):
Okay, so you got hitler and ava braun and they.
They happen to have a jewishfamily living next door, it
happens, right.
And he would come home and gohi honey, I'm home now.
The show made it half anepisode before.
They were like what the actualfuck did we just green light and

(55:57):
they shut that shit down.
Okay, I think maybe they madeit through the whole first
episode.
I don't know if they shut himdown halfway through.
I think they made it throughthe whole first episode I don't
know if they shut it downhalfway through.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
I think they made it through the whole episode what?

Speaker 5 (56:08):
How did you find this ?
Oh it's.
I've seen it on many differentlists, talking about, like how
the fuck did this get greenlit?
Or how did this get filmed?
Like how did this look up?
Heil Honey, I'm Home.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
But have you actually seen the episode?
What's that have?

Speaker 5 (56:20):
What's that?

Speaker 4 (56:21):
Have you seen the episode?

Speaker 5 (56:23):
Oh no, I've not watched it all the way through,
but all I need to know is thetitle and I'm already like
that's the greatest fuckingthing ever, man, let me tell you
he's in his full uniform.
Yeah, no, he's full on Hitlerand they.
And this came out in what year?
What can you 1990.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:42):
So like I mean, come on, yeah, that's yep, that's
fucking like.
It's so good the fact thatsomeone's like, yes, let's make
this, and they filmed it andthey put it out on the
television for people to see.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
And this wasn't like today, where anybody can make
anything For anybody out therelistening.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
What are you saying the full.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
Uncut episode is on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Bro, I might have to go.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
We all know what everybody's watching.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
after this Look how pile honey.
I'm home Just fucking.
That video's just gonnasuddenly spike in views.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
It's 74% liked it.
It got 1.5 million views.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
This sounds like something that they would make
on Adult Swim for a quick bit.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
It's like a robot chicken sketch.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
This is something they intended to be syndicated.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
The fact that, like in the 90s, when, like you know,
it wasn't like everything, it'snot netflix now, where, like
you, get fucking green lit foranything you know, this was like
you know, you had to actuallyhave something and then they
were like yeah, we havesomething we've got fucking
hitler next to a jewish couple.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
It's insane, I mean brit comms are amazing for that
kind of stuff, like shit I grewup on, are you being served?
And the entire thing is justraunchy double entendres.
That is the entire thingthere's.
There's an entire joke aboutone character's cat and she
constantly because it's british,she constantly calls it her

(58:04):
pussy and they go everywherewith that there were eight
episodes recorded.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
Yeah, I want to get released only one aired, but
eight episodes were actuallyfilmed they.

Speaker 5 (58:16):
They recorded eight episodes of hi, oh honey, I'm
home.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
Just let that shit sink in the fact the fact that
they were unaired is kind oftragic, though, like I feel like
I almost want to watch themjust out of how hilarious it's
pure curiosity.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Yeah, yeah, 100, 100 please welcome our next guest,
the actor that played adolfhitler on highlining I'm home.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
I actually looked him up.
He actually has done like ahandful of things since then can
we get him on in moderation?

Speaker 5 (58:46):
That's who I want to get next.
I honestly bet you could he's77.
So we don't have a whole lot oftime left.
What's his name?

Speaker 1 (58:54):
He's known for Gnomeo and Juliet.
His name's Neil McCall.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Before Nuremberg does .

Speaker 3 (59:10):
If anyone is friends with Neil McCall, tell them we
if you get him on the podcast, Iwill die.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Hey, guess what he was in the lord of the rings.
Was he really?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:14):
oh, in the new one.
So the new one.
He plays adolf hitler in a verystrange role are you sure it's
not coming up?

Speaker 5 (59:20):
I want, I want to just get him to reenact the
other seven episodes yeah,apparently even 11 episodes were
planned and only eight wererecorded.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Oh, he was just an additional voice.
That's sad.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
Only eight were recorded.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
He deserves better.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
All we know about him is he played Hitler in Heil.
He deserves better.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
He just took whatever he could get at that time, I
can't blame him.
Actors' lives are hard man.
I used to be one.

Speaker 5 (59:50):
When he could get at that time, I can't blame him.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Actors, lives are hard man I used to be one you
get.
When you're playing hitler, yougotta be sitting there like how
much do I put into this?

Speaker 1 (59:54):
like how true you commit, you commit.
I just want to make sure awhole murderer show oh, they're
bringing it back.
Uh, mind hunter people playmurderers on that.
People are play like reallyyeah, they've had Kemper.

Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
Yeah, yeah, all that, and I remember listening to
something about that.
The guy who played him actuallymet with Kemper and talked with
him and tried to like yeah,it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Wouldn't that be wild , Neil.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
McCall is a method actor.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
Hey Alex.
Why are women obsessed withlike serial killers and why do
they get so much?

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
love.
Okay, I'm to ask because Iliterally don't get it.
Because I am terrified ofserial killers, I don't like
horror movies and when peopleare like yeah, I listened to
murder mystery podcast in myfree time, I listened to one and
I thought that that wouldhappen to me.
For like a year straight I waslike on the lookout.

(01:00:41):
I do know a lot of women likeit because it makes them more
aware of, like, what to do inthose kinds of situations.
But, some of them just like,like the thrill and I'm like I
already have so much anxiety andoverthink the shit out of
everything.
Give me more random scenariosto play in my head.
This is dangerous, so.

Speaker 5 (01:01:00):
So you're not going to be writing love letters to
serial killers in prison?

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Respectfully no, if any serial killers in prison.
Respectfully no, if any serialkillers are listening to this.

Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
Please do not serial gather all the wi-fi from the
guards to listen to this episode.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
I don't know who's streaming your guys's podcast.
Uh, mostly murderers.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
That tracks and it's murder, serial killers in
moderation, oh, shit.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
I mean, they're already failing.
If you're serial killing, it'snot in moderation hey, there's
some people still alive yeah,they can't kill everybody I
guess, I guess, I guess serialkilling is the moderation
between a single murder andgenocide there you go there, you
go so pull pot, not inmoderation, no, not at all.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Yeah, I just read my fairy, smut.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
Well, that's something that all women do.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
A lot of women don't like it and I'm like I can't
relate.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
There are people that are tuning into this episode.
I love these people.
They teach me so much aboutweight loss and being good and
and nutrition and such I thinkI'm like you guys, ever seen
this hit com listen, we're allpeople too.

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
We need to.
Just, you know, fucking shootthe shit about nonsense.
What's life without a littlebit of that?
That's all I'm saying we did.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
We paid our fitness educator taxes here for a little
while and you got back in andwe're like now we're going to
have our fun.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
To be fair, it's like again we're relating to people
who listen to documentaries andthen women should have a healthy
libido too.
Yeah, women should have ahealthy libido, so fairy smut is
okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Let me tie this all in really quick.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
I just tied it in.
Get out of here, mike.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
I would tie it in even more when you're on a
weight loss journey, you'retrying to get healthier you
don't always have to be thinkingabout weight loss and health
and everything you should bewatching british sitcoms
sometimes you should go watch,are you being?

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
served.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
If you have never seen it, I'm I promise you you
will not regret it yeah, likethis should not be the one thing
that is completely dominatingall of your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Maybe sometimes you should read some fairy smut it's
really enlightening you know,alex, I'm sure if you ask any of
my old gamer group, it used tobe a thing like if we played
anything that had a fairy in it,rob was playing that, but like
it was only within the groupbecause at that time I was like

(01:03:34):
you know, oh, anythingassociated with fairies, if
you're guy, it's gay, it's gay,it's gay what's funny is I've
evolved from fairy smut todragon rider smut so when
someone is looking for this, dothey just google fairy smut, or,
honestly, you can google, fairysmut and akatar will for sure
come up, which is a court ofthorns and roses.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
That is the gateway book, drug um.
But then from there you go tothrone of glass, which is a
little less smutty but veryemotionally demanding.
From there you go to fourthwing, which is the dragon rider
smut, and that I already told myboyfriend.
I was like january, by the way,guys, I have a boyfriend um
january 21st is when the nextbook comes out, and I was like I

(01:04:15):
will not be speaking to you fora day.
And he's like you're gonna readthat whole book in a day.
And I was like, yes, not even aquestion, so that's how you get
into it well my wife's into themurder mystery things.

Speaker 5 (01:04:26):
I still don't get it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Every girl I know is into that stuff A lot of people
like it for like the empathy andlike also for like safety
purposes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
It just gives me hope that one day I'll be on a
podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Who are you?
My cat's into salmon.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Why, cause he's single because he's single.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
He like messaged me and he was like not me being
jealous over here.
The way you went after him,it's like whoa.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Oh, it's because I kissed his neck and he was like
wait a minute and I was like yesrob, what's your ranking?

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
what's the in moderation ranking on the on the
charts right now?

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
we've got people listening right now, this very
moment are you gonna try andlike, are you gonna try and pimp
, rob out right now?

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
yes, I think okay good night everybody, I'm in
control of the editing, so I'mcutting it right here rob length
and width right now, tell usthat's what you want to start
with.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
He has a personality mike for him personally.
Emotional intelligence, all ofthat is gay.

Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
Let me give you that L&W, please.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
It's the 2024 ASL.
I've got a lesson that I teachthat anything you want to be
true at the end needs to be trueat the beginning.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Rob, I got some baguette underwear that women
seem to like.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Bro, I like the mistletoe one.
I think that one's classy, it'sclassy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
Classy's a word, the baguette one got a lot of uh, a
lot of female attention in mydms.
I'm not surprised yeah, becauseyou're comparing your slang to
a baguette.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
It works, that's all I'm saying well, yeah, you're
giving women the impression thatyour schlong is the size of a
baguette and every every timethey DM me that I respond saying
, trust me, it's not thatimpressive.
But it is yeasty ladies, ladiesdo not want yeast down there,
man, we actually actively try toavoid that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
That's why all my DMs are from men.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Because you talk about yeast.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
I have no idea.

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
I just get a lot of horny dms from men oh, listen,
which my in my like early thirsttrap days, it was mostly men
occasionally I get a womanwandering in there.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
It's all men.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
I'll be honest I've never gotten a dick pic.
The fact that you got onebefore me is horrible, is it
actually?

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
I'm not that sad it's .

Speaker 5 (01:06:46):
I wanted to get one first.
Damn it, michael, I don't wantit.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
I was getting off some sort of gay vibe because,
like it literally happens to meevery two weeks, every two weeks
, yeah, like pretty frequently.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Do you just are they like blurred images?
And then you have to like, yeah, but I usually accept it
because I'm like generallyspeaking.

Speaker 4 (01:07:07):
This could be something nice yeah or it could
be, yeah, like some sort of likesomebody trying to reach out
for coaching or something likethat.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
I don't know why are they sending you a picture?
Why are they sending you apicture if they're applying for
coaching?

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
Yeah, that's a good question, but some people have
sent legitimate pictures thatare normal.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
The first time I thought I was going to get a
well, not the first time.
A couple months ago I thought Iwas going to get my first dick
pic and I was like, oh, it's apicture and I like screen
recorded.
And I was like, all right, guys, this could be the moment he
sent me like a little selfie ofhis face and he was just like hi
, I just wanted to introducemyself.
And it was like really sweet.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
And I was like, oh yeah, like I have people sending
me pictures of like their catand I'm like thanks, see, that's
sweet, yeah, but like it's justlike, that's what I mean, like
that's why I accept those DMs,right, because I don't know what
I'm getting.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
And then it goes from cat to schloss and then I'm
just like I just get an eyefulof dong and I'm like oh shit, I
don't need coffee anymore.
I'm awake now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
My DMs are a bustin' roulette of either it's going to
be somebody sending me a pic,because sometimes people will
make this wonderful art of thequotes that I'll say that's
sweet, it's the greatest ever,but it's blurred.
So I'm like, well, I'm eitherabout to see something really
sweet or someone's just likecranking the hog.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Thanks for saying be kind to yourself.
Have you actually gotten peoplelike jerking themselves off?

Speaker 5 (01:08:32):
yeah, oh yeah, 100 I have.
Here's the thing.
Listen, I was watching onnetflix, listen on netflix there
was this whole thing about likethe porn industry and like only
fans and all that shit.
And was I learned something inthat?
I was like that's wild.
There was this woman on onlyfans.
She started doing like rate mydick, where basically guys would
just send her pictures and shewould rate it, rate them on like

(01:08:55):
different criteria and theywould pay for this.
Like they would pay like quitea bit of money for this and I
was like that's wild.
Like there's guys just like Ijust I want people to see this,
I will pay for other people tosee this, and so like it's just
like they're gonna send themlike that.
Yeah, like make that money.
I mean, I got, I got, I got.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
Uh, you know, I totally get it only friends all
the time.
I should make one and just belike okay, if you want to send
me dick pics, this is how you'regonna pay to pay me you gotta
pay.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
That makes pretty good money off of rating dick
pics.

Speaker 5 (01:09:29):
That was the most wild.
Thing.
When I saw it I was like noshit, they will actually pay for
that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:34):
You got to be pretty hard up to pay somebody to look
at your dick for you.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
But there's so many, they're like, there's like women
that are like I'm just, I'mbooked, I'm booked to break my
dick.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
I have no more space for it today.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
I gotta go.
I've got a dick appointmentlater.
Oh, you're having a date.
No, I've just got a bunch offucking dicks.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
I have to rate what's really great is this friend,
that that I have, that does thisis it, you, I was talking with.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
No, unfortunately, I don't make enough.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
I don't make that money I mean, hey, if people
want to send me dick pics andhave me rate them for money,
I'll do it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
It's not gay, I'll do it Whatever.
It's not gay, you have to sayno homo.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
This is great, because this is where I was
going with this was we weretalking about how I could
actually just program an AI tolearn to rate them for me and I
could just feed it into the AIand they would spit it out a
rating that was unique to them.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
I wouldn't need to have to touch it.
That's way too much work.
Just go generate a randomdescription of a dick and then
just paste it.
They don't need accuracy withthese people.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Okay, but like okay.
This is a real question basedoff of this conversation.
What would you do?
Like okay, but like okay.
This is a real question basedoff of this conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
What would you do if someone rated it poorly?
Well, that depends on if youare into that or not.

Speaker 5 (01:10:55):
I guess some people are into that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
I mean, I'd feel really like hurt, I'd be like I,
just I was just born this way.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
What if, on top of that, I would start selling it?
Well then, you'd pay somebodyelse to get a better rating.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
If you're paying top of that, well then you pay
somebody else to get a betterrating, paying somebody to look
at your dick and rate it.
Okay.
That's a pretty good idea ofwhat they're gonna say about it.
Right, like you have to knowroughly what their opinion is
going to be otherwise.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
I mean, maybe they've never had it rated before and
so this is like theiropportunity to like figure out,
like maybe this is why I've hadtrouble with women.

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
No, okay, that's definitely the dick, not the
personality, right if you're adude and you're listening to
this and you think you havetrouble with women because of
your cock, you don't know women.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
That's fair.
That's fair, that's very valid.

Speaker 5 (01:11:37):
Oh shit, this is a weird conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Welcome to In Moderation.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
To be fair, when they were on my podcast, we talked
about porn for like 20 minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Well, we were all surprised that you don't know
any of it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
I've never seen porn in my life.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
What we kept making references and Alex would be
like what's that?
Why?

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
is that the appropriate reaction?
Is it that?

Speaker 5 (01:11:58):
weird that I've never seen porn, because porn is half
the world at this point, andjust the fact that you've never
seen it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Honestly, I'm both impressed and I encourage you to
continue never looking at itbut like what do I need to watch
it for?

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
because you don't need to.
No, you shouldn't.
I'm not saying to do it, I'mjust saying the reaction is like
what?

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
because, like it's everywhere to find someone who's
never even seen it at all nowyeah, like it's never like come
up on your screen by accidentlike you've not seen what are
you looking up where itaccidentally comes up you?

Speaker 5 (01:12:29):
Googled that.
Penn Island, we'll come up.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
I like my, when I was in like uh, I think like eighth
grade or something, my friendslike looked it up on their
computer and then she was likeyou need to see this thing.
And I like saw it for like acouple, of couple seconds I
literally couldn't even tell youwhat was on the screen.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
I was like, oh okay probably like a dick and boobs
yeah, so that was the most I'velike seen of it wait, wait, wait
, wait.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
So you read smut, but you can't watch it it's not
about can't, like it doesn'tbother me, but like I don't.
Respectfully, I don't need itand this isn't I.
We had this conversation wherepeople like explained it, but I
was like I don't need it andthis isn't I.
We had this conversation wherepeople like explained it, but I
was like I don't need it to getturned on.
I have a very healthy libidowhere I'm like regularly.
No, it's just, my boyfriendknows I'm regular and so I'm

(01:13:17):
like hey people who do watch ithave more trouble getting turned
on yeah, so that's.
The interesting thing is likeusually it ends up leading to
like erectile dysfunction oragain skewed perception of
perception is a yeah, god

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
yes yeah, like I'm watching it right now and I'm
not hard at all case study righthere but like that's my thing
is so far everything that I'veever heard about it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
It doesn't make me want to watch it that's fair,
that's very fair that is veryfair I mean, it's not like I
encourage you to never watch it?

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
I probably would.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Also to be fair, for, like my fairy smut, I actually
get like really I start skippinga lot of the like sex scenes if
there's like a lot of them,because I'm like, okay, this
just feels unnecessary, like Ijust I'm here for the storyline
and like a little bit of fun,but then if it's like literally
every other chapter, I'm likewhat is happening?

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
like I don't love sex scenes in movies.
I think it slows down the plotsometimes it's part of the plot
well, if they imply it whereit's like you know, they come
and they kiss and then, like the, the camera goes up or
something, so we don't have tofucking watch them for when it's
like a really long sex scene.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
Yeah, I mean some of them are are almost necessary to
the plot.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Yeah, like Game of Thrones, it made sense Like
whole hogging it out.
Do we need?

Speaker 5 (01:14:31):
that they make sense.
Wall Street's a good one, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Would it have been a worse product if you didn't see
somebody's dick and everything.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
I've seen none of those, so I don't have an answer
, at least in the respectiveGame of Thrones.
I don't have an answer, atleast in the respective Game of
Thrones.
I would say, yes, it would makeit a worse product.

Speaker 5 (01:14:51):
Yeah, it made sense for some reason it's one of
those TV shows or movies where,like everything's dog shit, like
everything is awful.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
So this is the one thing we have did you just say
Game of Thrones is everything'sawful?

Speaker 5 (01:15:03):
no, I'm saying like in those worlds everything is
awful, because we're fuckingconstantly getting pillaged by
fucking pirates and shit orwhatever is going on so like,
yeah, let's just have some fun.

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
Like you know, whatever drugs, sex For the
record, I just started that show.
I'm still in season one, so nospoilers.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
Oh wow.
The spoiler is that seasonseven and season eight are
terrible.

Speaker 5 (01:15:26):
I've heard that much.
Yeah, go up to season six andyou're good.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Yeah, Season six is great.
Has my opinion, best villain.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
No porn spoilers either.
Yeah, alex hasn't even startedseason one.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
yet I don't want to know circumcised or
uncircumcised.

Speaker 5 (01:15:42):
I will find that out at the time.
Thank you very much.
I'm on season 27 of porn I'massuming that's page 27 of porn
hub oh my god, if you're on page27, oh boy I really think you
might want to reevaluate andjust take a quick step back and
be like where am I?

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
what's going up here?
This thing is ripe with sexscenes, the whole series.
The plot is horrible, theacting is so fitness.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
It's great the workout.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
I mean I was 500 pounds.
That's like getting to page 27of Pornhub in fitness, but with
food yeah, perfect analogy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
I can't believe I made that joke.
I feel like an asshole.
I need to stop hanging out withyou guys.
So much.
Okay, it's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
You know, you love us .

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
I do.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
I hope that the audience loves us too At this
point.
We lost the audience 30 minutesago.

Speaker 5 (01:16:38):
Everybody's watching Heil Honey.
I'm Home and I'm about to go.
Do that too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
They've had enough time to watch the whole episode
and come back and we're stillhere.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
Did we want to like?
Circle back to fitness stuff?
Are we feeling good at?

Speaker 5 (01:16:52):
this point, we're so far gone, we're so far.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Laughter is a great ab workout.
I'll say that I'm hurting myblood pressure's real high.
This is what high heart rateactivity or whatever I actually
tweaked my back on the weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
So every time I laugh my back hurts and I'm like, oh,
this is this, is this is funthis is fun.

Speaker 5 (01:17:12):
I think you're right though the mic, where you just,
like you know when it comes tolike you have a goal and you're
just so focused on that you needother shit in your life like
you can't just you can't justsolely focus on that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
You'll go crazy I'll tell you this I'm in a measured
calorie deficit for the firsttime in a very long time and I'm
not a person who really thinksmuch about food anymore.
This is from somebody whosefood noise was like two
megaphones against my face, andnow it's like when I have a
craving I can tell between apassing fancy and something I
truly want.

(01:17:43):
But now that I'm in a measuredcalorie deficit, I'm thinking
about my food.
I'm thinking about food all thedamn time now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Oh really.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
How big is your deficit?

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
It's not much, it's not hungry and we're back.
It's not that I'm hungrybecause I'm not hungry.
I'm very slow about this.
It's not a big deal, like I'mnot trying to trim 50 pounds or
something, I just want to trimfive or 10 pounds.
It's not a big deal, like I'mnot trying to trim 50 pounds or
something, I just want to trimfive or ten pounds.
It's not much.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
um, ten pounds is even too much so why do you feel
like you're thinking about foodso much?

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
because I'm thinking about food a lot it's just like
there's it's because I think,it's because I'm more focused on
it that I'm thinking about itmore so sorry no, just go on so
I was gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
So you said you feel like you're thinking about food
more, but you don't feel likeyou're that hungry.
So it's probably not likehunger related food noise.
And so then do you feel likeit's because you're having to be
more methodical about hittingyour specific macronutrients, so
you're trying to be morespecific about like your meals.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
I'm not even worried about my macro so much because
my protein's always been onpoint, so that's fine.
I'm just trying to make surethat I'm not going over a
certain window of a number andthat's it.
But I find that just the extrathought is making me think about
food more and it's making me alittle bit more snacky.
Now I don't act on it, but Ithink about it.

(01:19:05):
So I'm thinking to people whohave less experience with this
than I do and have less copingtools and mechanisms to be
thinking about.
Just the calorie deficit andyour body in general in a period
like this can be reallydetrimental.
You have to focus on otherthings around it or you're going
to drive yourself crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
It's wild how having hobbies is like not a thing for
many people anymore yeah, likepeople think that, like I'll
talk about that, you drew aboutthe guitar.
Well, yeah, and like so manypeople, go straight to doom
scrolling and they're like oh,no, I'm filling my time, or porn
, and they're like I'm fillingmy time with this.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
I'm actually being serious about that?

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
no, I know, yeah, I mean, yeah, I used to as well
yeah, no, I, I know that that'sa true thing, hence why I'm also
like I don't see the reason forporn.
I don't drink, I don't do drugs.
I like I am just like what arethese things that are just
filling time rather than beinglike intentional about?
Like that's why I read not justfairy smut but other stuff.
But also like I literally haveclients who I'm like hey, why

(01:20:04):
don't you try like coloring ordoing like a puzzle or doing
Legos?
And at first they're like thatjust sounds so ridiculous.
And I'm like put on a show orsomething in the bag and just
try it.
And then they're like wow, I'mso much happier.

Speaker 5 (01:20:16):
It goes both ways too , for like losing weight, but
also for like young guys.
You get in the gym and you'relike I want to build as much
muscle as possible, and likethat leads one place only as
possible, and like that leadsone place, only one place, and
that's taking steroids.
If your only goal in life is toput on as much muscle as
possible, that's where thatleads.
You need to have other thingsin your life, other goals and

(01:20:38):
hobbies, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
That can be taken to women too.
It's like all you want to do islook a certain way, and that's
why so many women end up likethey're in the gym seven days a
week for hours, and they're alsolike heavily restricting
themselves.
And the second you're like hey,you know, you could actually
probably maintain the physiquethat you have, doing like half
the movement and just adjustingyour nutrition a little bit.
And then suddenly they havelike I have clients all the time

(01:21:02):
who are like I have so muchfree time, I don't know what to
do with it.
And I'm like spend time withyour family, pick up hobbies, do
do anything else with your life.
And then they're like oh right,whoa crazy, we're such simple
animals.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
We are such simple animals we can be distracted
much easier than we believe,like when it's in on the top of
our minds, like hey, don't thinkabout a pink elephant right now
everybody's thinking about, butnone of you are thinking about
the conversation we had aboutLord of the Rings ten minutes
ago.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
I am.
I'm still thinking about theporn conversation.
I'm going to forget Heil Hitler.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
None of us are going to forget Heil Hitler.
That too.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
I wasn't thinking about that before.
You just mentioned it, but nowI'm going to be thinking about
it for a little while, but fiveminutes from now, when we've
talked about something equallyas ridiculous, if that's
possible I will have forgottenabout it, and so it's not going
to feel easy at first, butdistracting yourself with things
that are good and wholesome andfun maybe not porn is a really

(01:22:06):
good thing if you feel like thecalorie deficits weighing on you
, the fitness is weighing on you, and then also we may have to
reevaluate our habits becauseyou might be going too hard, but
and put those things around you, Like the people who do get to
see us on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
Me and Mike both have guitars right there within
reach, Always behind me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
My coloring book is like right on my, like right in
my table, because my table opens, so I'm just like I just grab
it out of there whenever I needto and just start doodling.

Speaker 5 (01:22:33):
My daughter has legs and she's constantly just at my
feet.
Hard to forget.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Yeah, if you guys need to just have a kid.

Speaker 5 (01:22:42):
Have a child.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
They will take up all your time.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Is it ethical to put a Fitbit on a toddler?
Can we get like a step count?

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
I don't see why it wouldn't be.
It's not like you're tellingthe kid to track their calories.

Speaker 5 (01:22:54):
I just want to know what an ugly step count is.
Maybe not around the neck, butyou could put it around.
That might not be ethical.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
You could put my dog collar on it.
I track my dog steps.
Why do you track your dog steps?

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
Why do you, oh, that's ugly.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Jeez, my friend gave it to me because they were just
curious because I'm so active.
They were like how much doesyour dog move in a day?
My dog gets like 60,000 steps aday, wow.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
That's pretty insane.
Well, because I?

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
take her to play Frisbee.
I take her on a three-mile walkevery day.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
Well, that's four legs.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
Then it is four legs.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
So it's like 30,000 steps.

Speaker 4 (01:23:24):
I don't know how many is that in dog?

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
steps, dog steps to human steps.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
I don't know.
I get like 14,000 steps a day.
I'm an active human, I'm amoving human, but that's
actually a good point.
I used to be the person whowould just sit around and do
nothing all day, and if youwould ask me in high school what
I would be doing for my life,being in fitness was definitely
not one of them, considering Ifailed PE.

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
If you asked, me what I would count as being in
fitness, it would not be myanswer.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
Yeah, we had to count one, two, three to get up out
of a chair.
There was no chance that I everthought I was going to help
people lose weight.
You got to sit in chairs.
No, like I need to sit in thebooth because there's my muffin
top, won't muffin, but then Iwon't be able to sit because of
the table.
Yeah, it's awful.

Speaker 4 (01:24:12):
I still get terrified of booths man.
I've not been big for years andI still get nervous Because I
legitimately couldn't fit inthem.
So every time I go to arestaurant now and they sit us
in a booth, I sit down and I'malways a little shocked that I
fit and usually I fit obviouslywith plenty of room, but for a
long time I legitimately couldnot sit in a booth.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
How are planes for you now?

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
Great.
I just got back from Vegas.
I get to do the whole pullingout the seatbelt thing and feel
nice that I have all this extraroom.
Yeah, I mean, I didn't fly whenI was 500 plus so I, um, you
know, I went like 12 yearswithout being on a plane.
Even so, um, yeah, cause I Iremember flying when I was at

(01:24:59):
like 400 something and needinglike the seatbelt extender and
the person next to me I'm likespilling over into their seat.
It sucked and it was hard, butbeing able to fly now is just
such a rewarding feeling andit's one of those.
You know, we talked earlierabout how I'm like, really like
focused on trying to experiencelife and go and do things.

(01:25:21):
It's because now I can Right,for the longest time I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
What do you think you're most excited to like
experience?
I don't know that.
I want to answer that.
Uh, it's drugs, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
we just talked about heil hitler.
We talked about porn.
Sure, the drug dealer is reallyfat phobic.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
No, no, but also uh didn't let you buy drugs is
removed oh yeah interesting?

Speaker 4 (01:25:44):
yeah, just because I've never been in that position
where I feel as comfortable inmy body as Plus you get to
explore new positions.
Exactly.
So I mean like I'm prettycomfortable in my body now,
obviously, if any.
I mean you've seen my content.
So I'm pretty comfortable in mybody, but I don't really feel

(01:26:07):
sexy.
I guess I'm happy with who I am, I love my body, but I don't
feel sexy.
I know that feeling.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
I'm still working on that it's different, it's very
vulnerable because that's adifferent thing to be doing than
just like standing around in abikini or like boxers or
whatever.
Because it's like again you'rebeing like intimate with
somebody and then also likeyou're doing these positions and
there's all this stuffhappening and it's like, yeah,

(01:26:37):
it's very vulnerable yeah, youhave all these weird ideas of
how things should be becauseyou've watched too much porn or
you have no idea how thingsshould be because you've never
seen porn.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
That's a huge thing.
There is a whole bunch ofpeople who just have.
They've never talked about itbecause you're just supposed to
know when you arrive, but theway that you're supposed to know
is from watching porn, which isa performance.
So we just have in the UnitedStates I'm sure it's probably
similar in Canada an awfulpurity culture that has really

(01:27:12):
kneecapped a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
Well, because I understand where, like yeah,
there are certain people youdon't want to talk to about it.
I personally don't want to talkto my parents, but there are
some people who have greatrelationships with their parents
and they literally learn fromtheir parents things to do and
stuff with their parents andthey like literally learned from
their parents kind of likethings to do and stuff, um.
But also some people won't eventalk to their partners about
like what they like how thingsfeel like what makes them feel

(01:27:36):
good and they're like scared todo that.
And I think it's so important tohave open, honest communication
with your partner because, like, how else are you gonna know
what like works and what doesn't, or what they actually like,
even if you're learning fromporn, like I know we're making
jokes, but like, just becausemaybe something seemed like it
felt good for those peopledoesn't mean that that person's
going to like it or it'sactually a good thing they could

(01:27:59):
have just been faking it inporn.

Speaker 4 (01:28:00):
Yeah yeah, it's often the case.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
Communication is key y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:28:04):
And that's in a lot of people's hearts.
But they're faking almosteverything in porn, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
And you don't get your own personal fluffer in
real life.

Speaker 4 (01:28:14):
I mean some people probably do, to be fair.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
Oh well, yeah, I guess.
Yeah, you got Paul Saladinomoney.
I'm not saying he does it, I'mjust saying he could afford it.
If that suited his fancy, hecould probably.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
Allegedly, I'm just kidding afford it, if that
suited his fancy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
He could probably allegedly I'm not saying he has
it he's about to blow hiscarnivore load is what he's
gonna do.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
Um, I do.
I do really appreciate yousharing that, though, because
that's something that, like,I've never really thought about
or considered, and there'sprobably other people out there
who are probably thinking thesame thing, and even like with,
like Mike, rob and I.
Liam was awfully quiet when weall said that we felt so
insecure.

Speaker 5 (01:28:54):
So I'm proud of Liam for being secure in himself.
I've always been pretty securein myself.
I'm not going to lie, but likeI know a lot of people struggle
with, that Must be nice.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
But yeah, there's a lot of people who do feel
insecure about stuff like that,and it's like you're not alone,
and that's the other thing toois, I think, obviously being
different sizes.
Obviously and we're talkingabout body sizes here.
I know everyone's minds in thegutter from everything else that
we talked about but, like,being different body sizes is
obviously going to bringdifferent difficulties and

(01:29:18):
different perspectives andthings.
But regardless of like whethersomeone is a beauty standard or
overweight or underweight orwhatever it is, there's still
similarities with likeinsecurities and things like
that that can come up.
And I think that it's importantto normalize that, because even
online, I see people skinnyshame and I see people like get

(01:29:40):
mad at other people for havinginsecurities like their stomach
when they're already in like asmaller body.
But like that's just that'sthat's who they are as a human.
It doesn't mean that they'rebad or wrong for it.

Speaker 5 (01:29:51):
So I think it's important to have these ties
into the social media thingwhere you see people Cause no, I
mean I have had issues withlike.
You know you're younger,teenager.
You know like a guy you seelike all the fitness models and
stuff like that just like superjacked.
You know like, oh, definitelyhave to.
You know, like, oh, definitelyhave to.
You know I, you know I have toput on a ton, of ton of size and
do this and do that.
So you know, I think I thinkthat is something that pretty

(01:30:14):
much everyone can relate to, atleast somewhat.

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
Yeah, social media, yeah even then, you learn to
just put the bar on the floorthey put the bar on the floor.

Speaker 5 (01:30:22):
Man, I'm telling you, it's the best way that is what
I said.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
I was like when I started dating this man, the bar
was in hell and this man hasraised it so high and I was like
, wow.

Speaker 5 (01:30:32):
See, there you go, and aren't you pleasantly
surprised now.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
I'm so pleasantly surprised.
I'm like hey, I'm like he toldme I look nice, that's really
nice, yeah, it's a joke.

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
You're welcome for that.
That's a very low bar there.

Speaker 5 (01:30:46):
Alex, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
You're new here, but Liam put the bar in hell.
You need the bar low.

Speaker 5 (01:30:53):
You can step over it, and then everyone's happy.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
Yeah, Are we feeling good guys?
We've been talking for like twohours.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
I love talking to you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
I love talking to you guys too.
It is my bedtime because oakleywakes up at like five five.

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
I love this for liam.
This is so exciting.

Speaker 5 (01:31:13):
Alex schedule yeah I'm waking up fucking bitch ass
early.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
It sucks, I don't like it, but I deal with it uh
five thirty is too early in themorning is finally getting if
the sun isn't up, why?

Speaker 5 (01:31:26):
why am I?

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Oh, no, he's not getting up.
I love getting up before thesun and then watching a
beautiful sunrise with my coffee.
The little things in life.

Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
I also get up before the sun.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
That's because you guys have no sun.

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
I also get up before the sun, because I have to
friggin' work 4 am.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
I wake up gasping from a night terror, and then I
peel my eyes open as the sandhas glued them shut.
And then I roll over to myphone because we're all
hopelessly addicted to ourphones and I see your ass on the
thing going fucking unposed andunbothered.
Four in the fucking morning,You're like about to get my
second workout and I just startscreaming fuck you.

(01:32:04):
Ok, first of all, wakes up,she's like what happened?
What happened?
Nothing, it was just anightmare.

Speaker 4 (01:32:09):
He's not wrong the fact that you put those at four
in the morning.
I'm always like what the fuck,Alex, Go to bed.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
I think that was the thing that surprised Joey the
most is like, literally I wouldwake up and I would just hop out
of bed and I have so muchenergy and and I'm like, yeah,
I'm awake, I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
What happened to setting the bar in hell?

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
Oh, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
When I wake up.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
I'm really tired and it's really hard for me to get
out of bed.

Speaker 5 (01:32:35):
I like that much better.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
I've always been a morning person.
That's all I have to say.

Speaker 4 (01:32:40):
I wish I could be a morning person.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
I tell everyone that.
But I hate it because I can'tsleep in.
Literally I have to take sleepsupplements to get me to sleep
in.
So I tell people I'm like it'sjust how my body is and it's
cool because it's nice when I doget enough sleep.
If I don't get enough sleep, itsucks.
So pick your battles, people.
You don't have to wake up atthe same time as me.
I'm glad I can grace your feedearly.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
I do look forward to those every morning, Alex.
It's a pre-show for the rest ofus.

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
There you go, there you go.
All right, liam and I havebedtime.

Speaker 5 (01:33:10):
Yep, I got to go to bed, we'll sign off.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
I love this.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
Jesse, thank you for joining us for this crazy
roundtable.

Speaker 5 (01:33:16):
Yeah, it's very fun.
It's an interesting discussion.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
Welcome to the crew.
Don't be a dick Tell.

Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
Right, none of us said that.
Jesse said that actually in thebeginning.
Yeah, I did so he got it inbefore everyone tuned out.

Speaker 4 (01:33:28):
That's right.
What did he say I gave when wedid the short introduction?
I said my socialsprogressiveoverhaul on all
platforms, even though I don'treally upload most of my stuff
to TikTok because TikTok hatesme.
So you know, go to.

Speaker 3 (01:33:43):
Instagram.
Well, tiktok hates allCanadians at this point, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:33:47):
Not for long.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
I firmly believe that Once it's gone for us, they're
going to go for the Canadians.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
It's already gone to Canada.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
What they took it down you guys can't go on TikTok
, our government already kickedTikTok Canada out of Canada.
So what do you guys use?
This is a whole conversation.
I apologize.
You can find me on Instagramand TikTok under TheAlexAllen.
Mike needs a plan.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
That's me.
Be kind to yourselves everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
Don't be a dick.

Speaker 4 (01:34:12):
Don't be a dick.
Don't be a dick Unless it'sbeing rated.

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