July 31, 2025 • 46 mins
Ever wonder if your fitness coach is actually a sophisticated AI program pretending to be human? In this eye-opening conversation, we pull back the curtain on the growing problem of influencers using artificial intelligence to sell "personalized" fitness plans to hundreds or even thousands of clients simultaneously.
Mike from "Mike Needs a Plan" joins us to share disturbing industry insights, including how a prominent fitness celebrity (described as "the Paul McCartney of our industry") was caught sending generic, recycled workout plans to clients who had specifically requested customized programs. We discuss the ethics of AI coaching, the reasonable client load for dedicated coaches, and how to spot red flags that suggest you might be paying premium prices for automated guidance.
The conversation takes fascinating detours into the absurdity of current health priorities - politicians removing red food dye while loosening regulations on forever chemicals in our water supply. We explore how disability systems create impossible "brick walls" where people lose benefits faster than they can earn income, and share practical advice about what food banks actually need (hint: it's not just canned goods).
For anyone trying to get back into fitness after a break, Mike offers refreshing perspectives on taking a more measured approach rather than diving into six-day-a-week routines. His moderate method has yielded better results without making the gym his entire personality.
Whether you're navigating the confusing world of fitness advice, concerned about environmental policies, or simply trying to build healthier habits, this episode delivers straight talk with just enough humor to make the hard truths digestible. Join us for a conversation that might just save you from being scammed by a robot masquerading as your next fitness guru.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Rob, what unfortunate set of circumstances led you to
having me on here on InModeration, the show where we
give a moderate dose of infosarcasm and we already know
we're not Bobby approved.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Unfortunate set of circumstances.
Well, to start with, I was bornand then I discovered the
internet.
That was unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Let's just do a therapy session for Rob.
Let's get really into it, ohGod.
For those watching on YouTubeyou may notice that I don't have
a camera right now becauseeverything just breaks on me.
He didn't check the handsomesettings on his webcam and he
didn't adjust it well enough andit broke because he's just too
darn cute, I forgot to use theugly filter.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
That's what it was, yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Rob in the Canada land.
Is everything also made inChina there?
Or is that just in America,where you get everything that's
made in China?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
So, unfortunately, what happens is we import from
the US, so everything's made inChina shipped to the US and then
we import it from the US.
So we just get your crummystuff.
Is that how it works, unless weimport it from Europe?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I didn't know that's how it works, which I mean the
way things are going.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I think we're going to be importing a little bit
more from Europe now.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Do people in China have a lot of made-in-China
things, or are they importing itfrom elsewhere?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I was curious about that too.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'm assuming they do right, I would assume so yeah,
unless they're like well, thestuff we make is crap, let's
just sell it to the US, make alot of money and then buy the
good stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
They're actually master craftsmen and, just like
all the fucking duds, they'relike, ah, give that to the US,
they don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
They make iPhones with batteries that last for six
days.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Meanwhile, we can't get through fucking half the day
without being like are you?
Gonna charge her.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
No, not that one, the other one yeah, give us the one
that charges the phone in 12seconds.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
That's what I can tell exactly what got imported
from the us, because the us usesphillips head screws for
whatever freaking dumb reasonthey're.
Still, you guys are still usingphillips don't get Rob on his
Blurkerbergs or whatever thehell they're called.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
What are they called?
Again, it's a square.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
The ones from China they strip so badly and they
break and everything, and it's awe use Robertson Robertson.
That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, it's some random last name or whatever,
sure.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Rob's just gunning for a sponsorship here.
Robertson Screws.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Any Robertson Screw companies out there, hit me up
Email's open.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Everyone else is like hey, let me tell you about
Squarespace.
And we're like do you have anyscrews that need screwed?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
How about a square hole?
Let's talk about that.
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Speaker 2 (02:51):
That'll be our first major sponsor.
For those of you who arejoining us for the first and
last episode.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
The Robertson screw is just a square peg in what is
a normal screw and it's meant togive you more grip.
And strip less and strip less.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, well, that's my rent, you guys can go on, I'm
no carpenterist.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Is that the term for it?
I feel like that's not the termfor it.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I don't know Listen.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And immediately I go to my wife yeah, carpenterist,
exactly, I legitimately will trysome do something with my hands
and I will go to april and belike thank god social media took
off for me, because I'm so shitat any of this stuff and I'm
pissed and I'm hot and sweatyfrom like just the smallest
thing that you'd like anyoneelse would be able to do quickly
(03:39):
, like no, no, I, I don't.
I don't work with my hands.
Any muscles I have are showmuscles.
I don't.
That's not, it's not for actualwork.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I think you and mike are two peas in a pod on that.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Hey, mike well, you've got the show muscles,
I've got the grow muscles right.
It's still, if I get thempumped up they'll show, but it's
I.
I need somebody to clip liamsaying I do things with my hands
and then immediately go to mywife.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Oh, that's I mean normally the order is not okay.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Let's.
For those of you who areunfamiliar with me, god bless
you.
I am Mike from Mike needs aplan on Instagram and TikTok.
I lost 110 pounds and I helppeople to do the same thing, and
I help them to do so throughhabit adjustments, and I'm not
the, you know, grind set kind ofDavid Goggins approach.
I like doing things a littlebit more calmly and I would like
(04:36):
to pick your guys brains.
We've talked a little bit aboutthis before, but the, the, the
rampant prominence right now ofinfluencer coaches using either
purely AI or using assistants topretend to be them to coach
people.
I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Don't spoil your feelings right at the beginning,
okay.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, I should have buried the lead, so I love AI.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I love that it's just being thrown.
They're able to throw out asmany plans as possible to as
many unsuspecting victims asthey can.
I think they should do thatmore.
And, yeah, fuck them.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
The funny thing to me is that all AI really did was
replace bodybuildingcom.
Is that all AI really did wasreplace bodybuildingcom?
Because a lot of those coachesthat have 1,000 clients which,
by the way, if a coach has 1,000clients that's a red flag they
would just take programs frombodybuildingcom.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I'm not going to name names here, but somebody who is
very prominent, extremelyprominent, like the Paul
McCartney of our industry, whichdoesn't narrow it down to
anybody specific.
I was told by somebody who gottheir coaching last year because
I posted something today aboutthe prevalence of AI being used
(06:00):
and giving people and I'm notagainst AI, mind you, I think it
can be used well it's just amatter of where's the
transparency.
When you sign up with a coachthat you saw online, you want to
work with that person, but Idigress Somebody had said that
they were working with a verywell-known coach and they were
talking about like hey, I'veactually got very strong legs, I
(06:23):
need some upper body work done,and this coach, who was
pretending to be the coach thatthey were talking to, just
seemed to ignore it, just kindof went right past us.
Oh, cool gotcha, okay, I'mgoing to send you your split now
.
And then sent them somethingvery quickly and it was like
very leg focused, and so hesends it back and he goes.
I don't, this isn't what Ineeded.
(06:44):
I'm not really about this.
I kind of need like an all overbody thing.
And then from what the claimwas, uh, was that this person
received one of Jeff and this isnot Jeff Nippard's, that
Nippard that he was talking tohe was talking to somebody else,
but he had received a copy ofone of Jeff Nippard's uh things.
So he paid another coach toreceive basically just a
(07:07):
rebranded Jeff Nippard split.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Somebody who's very well known and shouldn't be.
No one should be doing this,but this person especially
shouldn't be doing this.
So, like the quality ofcoaching you've got to be
careful with who you choose.
Well, seriously, fuck that.
We should trademark that beforesomebody takes it.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Or a prominent influencer starts saying that a
bunch.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, I'm feeling mustaches.
How about all of us do somemustaches?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Maybe we get our names changed.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Isn't it crazy that his last name is finally legally
fitness.
It's fitness Scott.
That's dedication Shout out toScotty.
He took a really big leap inhis independence and growth and
changed his name legally.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Really huge I also changed my last name legally
because I got a hyphenated namefrom my parents and fuck that
shit.
It's like the worst thing youcan do to your kids.
I was like I got to drop thislike a ton of bricks as soon as
I can.
That's fair.
Don't do that.
What was?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
uh ai, yeah, no I mean like that's the thing with,
with fucking ai, like it'sgonna be.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
It's that is not just gonna be in the fitness space,
it's gonna be like in everything, man, just like yeah, for
better or for worse, and I thinkwe just have to be get better
at recognizing it.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
That's really all you can do regulating it yeah, as
much as you can.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I mean, how much are you going to be able to?
It's going to be difficult.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I think it's going to be this as long as you are
transparent about it, right,like if we make people be like,
yeah, we'll give you programs,they're going to be ai generated
.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
They can't hide it I think there are apps that do
that already.
Now you don't have to pay likea coach for you, just pay for
the app.
That's $20 a month.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I think, like, when it comes to like schools and
stuff right, that's what itfirst started really getting
used for, right, it's like kidslike cheating on tests or
whatever, there's going to be alot of like this kind of like
criminal detective thing wherethey're both trying to like keep
up with each other, right,we're so like the schools are
going to try and detect if it'sai and then they ask you know,
(09:12):
their kids are gonna try and getaround that and I feel like
that's gonna what it's gonnakind of be all over, right, it's
like, oh, is this ai?
Let's, let's, let's, let's askai.
If this is ai, oh, it is ai, isAI?
Like, because I feel like it'sgoing to be a lot of that.
It's going to be kind of silly.
I think there's going to be alot of laws that have to be
created around it, because westill don't like fully
understand, like, when it comesto even like an image, there's a
(09:35):
lot of like argument right now,like who owns the image when
like an AI?
Because, like the company thatmakes the AI, you think maybe
they don't it, but they say no,like we don't want that.
Whoever asks for it, they ownit.
But there's been cases where,like, people created something
through ai for artwork that theyput on a book or maybe in like
a video game or something likethat, and then they got sued
(09:56):
because they didn't come up withit.
The ai did, but then who ownsit?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
and so it's we're owns it, and so it's we're.
We're still in the early stages.
The big problem there is thatwe think of ai as being well ai,
but it's not actually ai, andeverything that this ai um
language learning model is doingis just taking bits of the
(10:23):
internet and things that it'sbeen fed and just mashing them
together.
It's not actually intelligent,it's not actually thinking for
itself.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I don't know enough on AI to really speak to it.
The way that it comes up withthings is different than you
would expect, but I really don'tknow enough to say, like on the
whole, like oh, how it'screated, who owns it?
That sort of thing.
I think it's just going to bevery interesting going forward,
how the laws are created aroundit for that sort of thing,
(10:58):
because you have to makesomething and try and it's not
going to be great at first.
I'll tell you that Never is.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Like I said before, I'm not against ai.
And to those of you who areabout to say it's destroying the
environment, stop voting forpeople who are like putting
pipelines directly into thewater, that just like pump
poison.
And like, why, no, it's notjust runoff.
It's like, no, we are producingpoison to put into the water,
specifically to poison the water.
Like, stop doing that.
First, it's the whole mythabout individual responsibility
(11:29):
being more powerful thanactually legislating
corporations that create 90 ofthe world's pollution.
But, sue me, I don't care.
Ai is here and there's nothingwe can do about it.
Um, so it's.
It really is just a matter of Iforget who said it, but it's.
It's gonna like consent.
Do you want to consent topaying someone to use an AI
(11:50):
system?
How do you tell if you get it?
Because not everyone's going to.
You're not going to say it upfront.
A coach isn't going to say, hey, I'm using AI to coach you.
They're going to say I'mcoaching you, I'm the person
who's doing it.
So, like Rob said, ifsomebody's got 500 clients, it
doesn't matter if, even ifthey're doing it manually,
that's probably not somebody.
(12:10):
You stretch too thin, you don'twant to work with them.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, I don't even know how people have, well, ok
with, like the, the whole, thewhole disabled spoon theory
thing.
I personally can do 10 to 15clients before I burn out, and
I'm sure there's people thatcould probably handle upwards of
50, because they're, you know,head down, they get the work
done.
But once you get past that,it's like okay, you're having to
(12:36):
take shortcuts and that's whenyou hire, that's where AI is
going to really thrive, though,right, it's like in a good way,
like I think it will make.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
It will reduce the things that humans have to do
and streamline things.
I think that's really one ofthe things AI will be really
good for is just getting rid ofa lot of the extra stuff that we
don't need and just making itMore simple for humans, because
that's what technology does,right.
It's all technology does.
It's just make it does work sowe can do less work, and I think
(13:05):
it can be really good at that.
But it's also going to do a lotof shit.
That's going to piss people off, and it's going to be very
interesting to see how it turnsout.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
My take on this is something that we've already
implemented in some placesgenerated content on Instagram
or a tick tock, you are required, under threat of them deleting
it if they catch it, to label itas AI generated content.
So every once in a while,you'll see a reel or a post or
(13:32):
something and it'll say beneathAI generated content.
If we are going to enact somekind of law to regulate this or
to enact some kind of level oftransparency, I think there
should be a little tag.
This is this is AI generate.
Send it out, but make sure thateverybody knows there's a
little fine print this is an AIgenerated response.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
So you don't fool so many people with rabbits on a
trampoline have you seen thatRabbits on a trampoline?
Have you seen that the rabbits?
Jumping on a trampoline.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
It's getting real.
It's getting real, it's gettingreal, it's getting really, it's
getting good, we're about to bethe grandparents.
On facebook, you ever see thoseposts where it's like something
absolutely ridiculous and allthe comments are don't let this,
make it to facebook yeah right,it's a jesus fish or whatever
like this.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
No, it's real, I saw it it's real that fish is
walking.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Praise god.
Yeah, like it's.
It's not, but yeah, so I don'tknow.
I thought I was going to beimpervious to it.
It turns out you put rabbits ona trampoline and I'm oh, that's
so cool wait, one justdisappeared I'm sure that's a
fluke, it's fine, wait.
It's like the hands are messedup.
It's got too many fingers.
Wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
A rabbit's not supposed to say like at the rate
it's going, it's going topretty much be able to fool
anyone soon, sooner rather thanlater.
And, like you talk aboutpolitics and, like you know,
using it in nefarious ways, yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I think it has a lot of potential, but it's going to
fuck some shit up.
Like getting AI to make a bunchof studies for you.
For what?
What was it?
Rf?
I think rfk did it rfk.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, that was funny.
They just had fake studies andthen when they came to him with
it it was just such a like ohwell, the other ones are
accurate.
So that was just like a fluke.
Like what the fuck you talk?
You just had ai fuckinggenerate fake studies.
They even use like real authorsnames and they check those
authors.
They're like no, that's notreal.
We that I've never done a studycalled this.
(15:26):
What are you talking about?
So good, when you leave yourwater out overnight and it
tastes bad in the morning, it'sbecause the water's haunted.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
It's gosh Good news though we're going to have less
red 40 in our Shake Shackburgers.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And all I saw there is like one of the congressmen
made a post.
Thanks to Blue Bell for makingice cream healthy again.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, very specific wording there.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I was like it's sugar and cream, Just because you
were.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I missed out on this news.
What happened to the ice creamthere?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
was a few hours.
I missed out on this news.
What happened to the ice cream?
There was a congressman.
He posted a photo of him atBlue Bell Ice Cream, which is an
ice cream manufacturer, and hesaid thanks to Blue Bell for
making ice cream healthy againand for removing the certain
dyes or artificial ingredientsor whatever.
Like small things.
It's sugar and cream you fucker.
Like it's sugar and cream, youfucker like it's not.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
No, I love all the people that are saying that um,
cola is going to be healthieragain now because it's using
cane sugar.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Problem people are like, well, I was drinking sugar
and I hear diet's terrible, soI'm going to go back because now
that it's in a glass bottle,it's made of cane sugar.
It's going to be better for me,like what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
and it's well it, and not even the diet people, the
people who are drinking regularum sodas.
They're going to be like ohwell, it's better for me now I
can have more it's, it's noteven like.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
It doesn't taste that different.
You put them side by side.
Yes, I know the allure ofhaving a mexican coke or
whatever is like, but it's.
You put them next to each other, they're gonna be the same.
You won't be able to tell thedifference.
It's the chemical structure ofhigh fructose corn syrup
compared to regular table sugar.
It's like there's like oneconnection.
(17:12):
That's not there.
I bring scientific snitch onhere.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
She'll talk about it but it doesn't matter for your
health, right?
That's the points.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
It doesn't matter for your health yeah it, it's sugar
, sugar is sugar, and if youhave it in moderation, what's?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
so fucking wild, though, is that they do this
while, like, looseningrestrictions on forever
chemicals, Like what the fuckyou were the ones fear mongering
that shit, which understandhonestly, understandably so,
because they're not great for us.
Oh, but no, we'll dump more ofthat into the rivers.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
We'll get rid of your fucking yellow five, like what.
Where I forgot about thelegislation saying about the?
Uh, we start need to stopvoting these people in I.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I literally forgot there was actual legislation to
just pump poison into the water.
That was like a joke that Imade up, like how ridiculous
would that be of a concept?
No, it's.
That's real.
That's what's really trulyhappening for like a state they
didn't like, or just everywhere,everywhere it's loosening the
(18:14):
uh, just because it was a abiden era thing, they're like,
well, it must not be good,because biden it Okay.
Yeah, biden did a lot of badshit.
That's not one of them, andit's not even a left-right thing
here going on.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
It's like I don't know.
I'm not going to speak forthese guys, but personally I
don't identify as a politicalparty.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I don't either.
I identify as a voter.
Pfas.
Chemicals affect everybody.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
It doesn't matter how you feel about anything, and as
voters.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
we should be caring about this.
We all breathe, we all eat Like.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
We all need water, so we should all have a mutual
interest, no matter what, oflike having clean water.
Why is that controversial now?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Fucking goody two-shoes over here wants people
to have clean water.
Why is that controversial now?
Fucking goody two-shoes overhere wants people to have clean
water.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, this motherfucker wants some fucking.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I grew up on sewer water and I was fine.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Back in my day we used to drink the dog's piss.
We'd bring him out in the back.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
These kids have it too easy.
We called it passing the bark.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Meanwhile, we still have all the social media.
That's fear-mongering.
Microwave popcorn because itsupposedly contains PFAS.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
That's our problem.
Americans are eating too muchmicrowave popcorn Like God damn.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Let's talk about this .
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, oh yeah.
And, to be clear, the studythat showed that there was PFAS
in the microwave popcorn lining,that actually was done just
before PFAS got banned, and sothat's not even it's a non-issue
.
Now I don't want to say thatthe study is obsolete, because
obviously it's always good tohave the science, but it no
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longer applies to the productthat is on the shelf so it's bad
to have in the popcorn, fine tohave in the water.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Got it apparently well, if we get rid of it here,
we can get more of it there.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
It's all checks and balances when I, when I die, or
are they gonna have to recycleme?
Is it gonna get to that pointwhere I'll have enough
microplastics in me that theycan turn me into a bottle?
We'll have to ask chat, gptchat gpt, can I be turned into a
bottle?
You?
This is your daily dose ofexistential dread from
moderation boys and theirwhipping boy me I'm sure there's
(20:35):
some good things.
Let's ask chat gpt chat gptgive me good news about
something.
Anything please, eventually.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
that's all it's just going to be, it's just like oh,
just fucking ask.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Ask AI Chat.
Gpt is like good news.
If you act fast, you can stillsee a panda at the zoo.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
The last one.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
The last one you got to get there.
It's in Memphis, but like startmoving.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
It's got all the forever chemicals right into its
cage.
So we directed all the foreverchemicals right into its cage.
So no more humans got it.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
It just goes to bury the panda.
It's his birthday, he's thelast of his species and we're
giving him a piece fastchemicals cake.
It's okay, though there's nored 40 in it.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Uh, naturally died humans are great if we, if we
put enough microplastics inthere, maybe we can plasticize
them and have a permanent statueof them.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Preserve them.
At what point are we enoughmicroplastics to not rot?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
There's only one way to find out.
Guys, we got to start chugging.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Where are you at?
Adam and Jamie are going toload themselves up with
microplastics and killthemselves.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Which one will decompose slower.
Well, we're on the Red 40 train.
Let's see what happens overhere.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Jamie Heinemann's like I'm only using recycled
plastic.
Adam's using the crazy stuff.
He's just eating Sprite bottles.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
That was one of my favorite shows.
It was such a good fucking show.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Wasn't it fantastic?
Very realistic too.
That was one of my favoriteshows.
It was such a good fucking show, wasn't fantastic?
Very realistic too.
They uh, the two of them hatedeach other, which is um
realistic.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I've listened to a lot of that I think it's not so
like they.
I don't like they weren'tfriends.
I don't know if they, like,full on, hated each other.
I think they had respect forone another, but they're like, I
don't like how you do what youdo.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
So I don't like you as a person, but, wow, you're
good at what you do.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I think it was.
It was weird respect, but youknow, dislike a respectful
dislike.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Let's all go around the room and name people that we
don't like, but we respect whatthey do.
I don't know if I have a Jamieout of like respect.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, as long as I got the respect R E S me out of
like respect.
Yeah, as long as I got therespect r-e-s-p-e-c-t.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I know how to spell respect.
What, what issues are you guysseeing in the world lately?
What message do you want outthere to everybody that you feel
like is pertinent right nowbecause mine currently is is
finding the right coach andtrying to discern ai from
actually working with somebodythat you r-e-s-p-e-c-t you find
out what it means to me.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I I am on the people shouldn't starve train.
That's pretty much where I'm atand it seems to be somewhat
controversial, which is verygood, I find quite interesting,
um, but like it's, there's justmany like different ways.
People get upset like I'm likehey, these people shouldn't
starve, and other people arelike, well, they deserve to
(23:29):
starve, they're lazy.
Or like these people don'tdeserve to starve.
They're like what about theother people who are starving
more?
I'm like, okay, well, alsothat's bad too.
But like I'm, I'm trying tojust help out where I can.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
It's funny when people say what about the other
people that are starving more?
Because it's like we canaddress both at the same time.
Yeah, you can do two things.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I love it.
To me it would be like if I wasraising money for people with
like diabetes and someone camealong like oh so you want all
people with cancer to die.
I see you only care aboutpeople with diabetes.
You want all people with cancerjust fuck off.
Like what, are you insane?
That's kind of how I.
That's what I hear when likesomething like that comes up
(24:14):
right.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I also hate it as as a person that's on disability
and stuff and like there'speople that are trying their
best but the way society is, itmakes it hard for them.
Yeah, and the way thatdisability programs are created
actually makes it hard for themtoo.
(24:34):
People think it's easy justbeing on disability you know,
free ride or whatever and likethe money you get from
disability never cost covers thecost of living.
You always have to try and findsome other way to get money and
then as you get money, youstart to lose benefits and so
you eventually hit a brick wallof you are losing benefits
(24:57):
faster than you are making money, and so those are the people
that it's kind of crazy like weneed to give something that
allows them to get past thatbrick wall you're just like not
allowed to make money.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
The second you do, they're like oh, by the way, we
need all the money that we gaveyou back.
We need to, like take that backfrom you, because you should
have never had that.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah and that's the thing, like, and even if it's
like, oh, it's going to peoplewho don't like the amount of the
tax that you pay in taxes peryear to like fund SNAP, you know
, food stamps, whatever ispretty low.
It's like $30, $40, like a yearFor the average person.
It's obviously it depends onyour like tax for the average
(25:41):
person.
It's obviously it depends onyour tax bracket and stuff.
Right, but like it's relativelyit's not that much and I'm
happy to pay to give that moneyso people don't starve, like you
know, if there's a couple.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I also feel like a problem is a lot of people don't
understand how tax bracketswork.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Let's break down tax structures.
Do you want to spend the nextcouple hours just talking about
tax brackets, how, at a certainpoint, you no longer have to pay
taxes?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I'm working my way there.
I haven't got there yet.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I'm currently in the tax bracket where you don't have
to pay taxes.
It's called not fucking payingmy taxes.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Anyone can be there if you try hard enough.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I pay as many.
I'm unfortunately also in thetax bracket where I'm not paying
taxes, but it's called povertythere's many.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
There's different ways to skin a cat yep, I'm in
the tax bracket, it's called.
If you're hearing this podcast,I'm already dead.
You can't take money from adead man, mike, needs an escape
plan I've already escaped mikeneeds a body double to fake his
own death.
They're gonna find me with agun full of microplastics next
to me.
(26:47):
I think it must have been themicroplastics that killed him.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
It's the third one this week.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
The bullet was doused in Red 40.
Oh, the Red 40 got him.
That's what happened.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
The bullet that went through his brain covered in red
.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
40.
It must've been the dye.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
If you were going to overdose on any preservative,
which would you pick Mythbusters?
That's an excellent question.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
That's let's talk about like.
This is one of my favoritestatistics the the, the idea
that processed meat gives uscancer, which is technically,
empirically true.
If we look at the statistics,you have an extra four percent
uh risk on or um, was it fortypercent risk of increasing, um,
(27:32):
what's it called sorry I'mmixing up the numbers right now
of cancer, but that it's a fortypercent increased risk of your
already existing risk of coloncancer which is very small.
It's like four percent in theaverage population.
So you're just adding.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Basically, now it's a 4.4 percent chance which is
significant right when you lookat population scales millions of
people like that's going tolead to more cases but like I'm
not going to not have baconbecause of an extra 0.4 percent
chance of cancer, that's wherethis, this balance, comes in
right.
Like, I still enjoy, like um, adrink here and there.
(28:07):
So like and I know alcohol isnot good for me, but I'll have a
drink here and there.
I'm like you know what, if thisand this is what takes me out,
so be it.
Like I gotta, I'm gonna live mylife a little bit.
I'm still gonna try and dohealthy shit, but like also,
yeah, I want a sandwich, or lookat the process of somebody
that's not exercising In termsof the process meats.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
We can offset that a little bit with, just with fiber
Right, make sure you're gettingpeople.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
It's just a balance, man, Like you know.
It's like oh, have a drink here, have a sandwich there, it's
all fine.
Just try and do mostly healthyshit most of the time.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
The people that live longest are the ones that aren't
constantly worried about everysingle thing that they're doing
damn man, the fucking stress somany people I get.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
You know you get all the messages people like I'm so
stressed about this.
What about that?
I'm like why are you fuckingworried about aspartame so much?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
calm the fuck down like they're worried about it,
but here's my hot take, here'smy conspiracy.
All of the people who aretelling you not to intake
aspartame are nervous thatyou're going to lose weight
without paying them.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Don't have this low calorie snack, don't have to buy
their gum that doesn't haveaspartame or whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Like you're not going to buy my magic tea, you're not
going to buy my metabolic drops, you know, because you can lose
weight at home for much cheaper, I'll be right back.
I've got to do something.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Mike's got a plan to go, but, like the majority of
Americans, the majority ofpeople are not healthy.
Not because of aspartame it'snot always cracking a cold one,
that's what he's doing.
It's not because of aspartame,it's not because of
preservatives, it's not allthese buzzwords.
It's because they're eating toomuch and not exercising enough
(29:57):
and stressing too much which, tobe fair, there's a lot to
stress about and not sleepingwell enough.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
It's all the basic things, it.
And then I'd bring it into mycar.
I'd wait about 10 minutes to apoint where I could roll it up
like a burrito and eat it in mycar.
I didn't do this often, but itwas often enough to be
significant.
It's 4500 calories, I'm tellingyou, within 10 bites.
I'm already done, but I've gotthe rest of this pizza baby in
(30:36):
my hands.
What am I going to do with it?
So I would eat the whole thingand make myself sick.
It wasn't red 40.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah, that's another thing that uh doesn't help is we
get pushed that idea that youhave to finish your plate yeah,
yep it's okay to stop eating andput it in the fridge, or give
it to the dog, I don't care youcan just throw it out.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
You are the only person who was ever going to eat
that food.
You can't bring table scraps tothe local shelter where you
shouldn't, so if you are usingfood for a purpose it's not
intended for, you're wasting it.
If you eat it beyond the pointof feeling full and you make
(31:23):
yourself sick, you're wasting itstill, in my opinion anyway.
Yeah you're not helping anyoneby shoving it down your throat
when you're not hungry you don'tget extra points you can like
you.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
There's something you can try and help out, like uh,
you know uh, food banks andstuff, if you feel that way.
I'm actually meeting with uhmid ohio food bank tomorrow to
talk about like their hungermonth, about raising awareness
and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
So I don't know what we're doing, but we're trying to
figure something out can wejust talk real quick about what
uh food banks actually need,because what are they overloaded
with?
Speaker 3 (32:03):
usually there's a couple of things they're
overloaded with that they'regetting too much of, and I think
it's like certain canned goodsor for sure but there are things
that they don't get a lot ofyeah, I don't know what sort of
like food items that they needmore of let's ask chatT what
about like toilet paper and soapand stuff?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Do food banks give that out?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yes, I would assume so I actually one of my previous
roommates.
Unfortunately, he was animmigrant worker and they didn't
really understand the conceptof seasonal work to him.
So when winter came around, helost his job and you know, he
(32:45):
had to rely on a food bank for alittle bit and they provided
him with laundry detergent, soap, dish, soap, things, in
addition to food.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
This here is an AI-generated response.
I just talked to ChatGPT and itdoes say that non-essential or
non-food essentials are needed.
We've got toilet paper,toothpaste, deodorant, soap,
shampoo and conditioner femininehygiene products.
That's an important one.
You never think to bring thatthere.
But in terms of food peanutbutter, canned meat and fish,
(33:19):
canned soups, canned beans,vegetables, canned fruit, rice,
pasta, pasta, mac and cheese,shelf-stable milk that's an
interesting one yeah, it's agood one.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, I mean, I know they could always if it's
shelf-stable then it's got toomany preservatives and it's been
heated too high and all theselouis, you're trying to get all
of us, not me that's all theitems.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
There are bobby approved.
They can barely imagine fucking.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Imagine bobby fucking parishwalking into a food bank and
just like picking up items andbeing like this has sodium
phosphate in it.
You don't want that like justfucking tearing into the only
thing they they have, oh god,craft mac and cheese.
Do you know how they get itthis color?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
And he rips the box open and just pours it on the
ground.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
It's okay, though, because he'll go home at night
and sleep on his $3,000 mattress.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
That's lowballing it, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
You know who we need?
We've got Bobby Parrish.
He's about all the naturalstuff.
I'm going to be Bobby NonParish and I'm going to be
advocating just for the mostpreservative, full things.
Bobby Non Parish.
Spam is the best source ofprotein.
You guys have to try this.
This is a teriyaki flavoredspam.
(34:38):
This did not come from ananimal.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Oh no, you got to definitely get yourself some of
the meat alternatives.
Like I, go for the mostingredients.
This one has 47.
That makes it the best.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
So it falls a little bit short of our ideal 60, but
this will have to do Well no, no, he's still beating the 50
brain cell challenge thesechicken patties are made with
gasoline.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Are they fried with gasoline or are they are made
with gasoline?
Are they fried with gasolineand or they're just made with
gasoline?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
they actually have they just they take a syringe
and just damn.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I thought it was gonna be more like they use it
for for fire at least.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
No, they just it's just in there like a.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Like a chicken, you get the inside nice and juicy
Chicken gusher.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Oh God, it's just one .
Like in every pack.
Like it's just like.
Oh, I got the fucking gasolineone, damn.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
The worst bean boozled game ever.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
It's so Everyone has to have lighters in front of
their mouth at all times wheneating chicken, just in case the
world's going to shit.
We're at least getting beanboozled chicken nugget.
Gotta go down laughing this isno.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
No one take that idea .
Speaker 3 (35:52):
We're gonna patent it we might get in some legal
trouble.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
We just gotta send the package out with a waiver or
something honestly, I think weget past rfk.
He seems to be pro gas can wetalk about the logistics of
killing an animal in new yorkcity and, furthermore, can we
talk about the logistics of ananimal in new york?
He's never been, did he?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
if that's the case actually in new york, or did he
put it in his vehicle fromsomewhere else and bring it?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I thought it was already dead, and then he put it
on his trunk, that, or on his,the top roof of his car.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Was the bear alive in Central Park.
Like did it make it there?
Because, like a squirrel's notgoing to make it to Central Park
.
To those of you who areunfamiliar with New York City,
it's not like a lush natureparadise, it's just like a
shitty park inside of a shittycity.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
A bear is not going to make it time square of it.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I've never been to new york city.
I was like, oh my god, centralpark it's gotta be this
beautiful, lush, wild lands, andhere you are just spoiling it
for me.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
I know I mean, I've been to new york.
I like Central Park, it's nice.
I don't really like New YorkCity in general.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I like the cartoon show.
Central Park cartoon beautiful.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Central Park feels like outside time in maximum
security prison.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Outside time, time in the yard.
You get back to your fuckingcells.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
A bear is not going to make it there.
Where is it coming from?
It's got to travel from upstateNew Yorkork.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
It's gotta go across the bridge maybe it took the
fucking subway, we don't knowcrawling through the lincoln
tunnel.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
What?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
are you gonna try and stop a bear like no, I'm gonna
let him on if he tries to get onand just give him some space.
Maybe it's a shaman ad, I don'tfucking know.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Like it's fine how did I get on rfk with the bear?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
well, I mean, he has a history of putting dead
animals on the roof of his carsounds like he's a very
interesting history altogetherbut he won't get a flu vaccine
that's where he draws the linethat would be crazy I.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I've been seeing Dr Rubin post about all the vaccine
related stuff that RFK is doing.
That's insane.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
I'm going to be the anti RFK as well.
I'm going to get a vaccineevery day.
My arms are going to be sore.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Would they be?
Speaker 2 (38:18):
more or less sore than somebody who's pinning
every day.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Well, I was thinking like, oh, you had arm day,
vaccine day, it's every day,Alternating arms to give them
time to rest.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
We don't build muscle in motion.
We build it at rest.
Rest is important.
Let me talk real quick aboutgetting back into a fitness
routine, because I just recentlygot back into being in the gym.
I was out of the gym for alittle while.
I didn't gain back of hope.
I've stayed within the samefive to eight pound range for
the whole year.
(38:50):
I didn't track anything.
I didn't.
I wasn't paying all that muchmind in my food.
I was just practicing themindfulness that I have
instilled in myself and taughtto my clients.
Just like I don't want to walkaway from a table sick, I know
roundabout when I'm hungry, whenI'm not, I know what my
emotional triggers are and Iknow like this isn't.
(39:12):
This is just a craving, thisisn't like a biological need.
So I'm I'm fine, but gettingback into a routine, I don't
know why.
Switching arms just reminded meof this.
If anybody here right now hasfallen off of their journey, so
to speak, and getting back intoit is tough.
That's normal and regular, andyou are going to need a little
(39:34):
bit more time.
You're not like broken or weakor anything.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
For most of us, the gym isn't our personality.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah, and I don't want it to be mine.
So I kind of had to approachthis next phase with that in
mind.
I didn't want that to be mypersonality, like it was last
time.
I feel that yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I went through the phase of it being the main thing
in my life and now I had totake that step back and get back
into it myself and let myselfbe more relaxed with it.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Were you going super hard with it before, like I was.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Oh God yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Have you noticed that you're getting better results
being a little bit more inmoderation with it?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Well, right now I haven't been doing it enough to
gain any significant results.
Like you know, it's mostlymaintenance.
Um, there might be a little bit.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Well, I I stopped going enough to have lost a
little bit of muscle, and so I'mprobably putting some of that
back on, but not at anysignificant rate, just because
of, like, I'm taking it reallyeasy I'm not doing the whole six
days a week thing no, no, I I'mnot doing it that way this time
either, because I'm like Idon't want to end up separating
(40:55):
from it again and I'm tellingyou I think this time I'm
getting better results than Idid last time.
To be quite honest, going aboutit in a measured way, I go in
for like a full sprint probablybecause you're not on steroids.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
There's your problem well, actually that's.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
I came on here to announce that I am on 500 megs
of trim, not trend trim, that's.
It's a new thing.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Trim yeah, oh, okay trim it's thank you for being
transparent with us, unlike allthose AI-generated programs.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
The AI-generated bodybuilders who are taking ones
and zeros.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Yeah, how'd you come up with your cycle?
I asked ChatGPT what it feltlike I should take.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
ChatGPT said yes, 10,000 milligrams of
testosterone is fine.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
I want to be the most alpha male.
I can be ChatGPT, let me know.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
When they start measuring testosterone
supplements in grams, that'swhen you need to back away from
it.
Six grams seems like a lot.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
But the question is are you injecting it or are you
doing the cream, where you rubit on your testicles?
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Suppository.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Yes and yes, oh, okay .
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Right in.
Yeah, that sounds like theclean way to do it.
Well, except for your fingermaybe.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Controversial opinion .
This is the hill that I climbup this hill and slit my own
throat, and this is before Imake the argument.
I just went up there to die ina nice place.
If somebody looks like theirbody was inflated by a bike pump
and they're selling you aworkout plan that does not
include the amount of drugs thatthey're on, you are not going
(42:27):
to look like them, you are nevergoing to look like them and you
don't want to.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
And they should.
They have people they should betraining.
They should be trainingbodybuilders who are competing
on drugs.
Yeah, that's fine.
There's, there's a calling forthat.
It's not the regular person whojust wants to lose a little bit
of weight and get stronger.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Instead you should go to VShred for that.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
You go to VShred.
You get your somatotype read,you get your horoscope.
Read, get your astrology signed.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Find out what the new breaking studies at Harvard are
, so you can exploit those Allthe normal stuff you know.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
They'll read your, your palms.
They'll suntan your asshole.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
You get everything there one-stop shop at v shred.
We're really going for that vshred sponsorship.
Did you imagine a v?
Speaker 1 (43:11):
shred commercial after this.
Honestly, they gotta take whatthey can get now.
It's the comments on all theirposts.
You just seriously fuck v shredevery time they post like.
I don't think anybody can fallfor it anymore well, the problem
is people.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
They're um, they've got such a good marketing team
at targeting people who arebrand new to the space.
Yeah, and so that's before theyeven get introduced to people
like scotty yeah, interesting.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Get their money, get the fuck out.
Yep, we're going to have to.
We're going to get out.
It's like after midnight for me, so I need to get a moderate
dose of closing my eyes, fuckingwaiting for tomorrow.
Before you get woken up by achild.
Oh, she just said like six inthe morning, just screaming at
me like okay, let's go With myclients.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
I have habits that I I teach them, and everything
kind of fits into thosecategories.
Number one is sleep.
Yeah, it's number one is sleepof the six something that we
definitely don't focus on enoughgreed I need to go focus on it
right meow get on out of here,weren't you at sleep medicine
professional?
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Oh yeah, and my sleep was fucking dog shit while I
was in it too.
It was very ironic, I'm aware,All right, Well everybody.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
It has been wonderful to be back.
To be your fall guy is thegreat honor of my life.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
And once again, Mike, let everybody know where they
can find you.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
I say this every time .
I don't want them to find me.
I got enough people followingme.
Now you can find me atMikeNeedsAPlan on Instagram and
TikTok and all the places youcan go to Mike'sPlancom if you'd
like a non-chat GPT AI coach toguide you to success, who's
also not on steroids and mightbe taking a fatal dose of
(45:02):
preservatives later for fun.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
And Mike's also got.
Is it a group coaching thingthat you've got going on now
steroids and might be taking afatal dose of preservatives
later for fun?
Speaker 1 (45:07):
And Mike's also got is a group coaching thing that
you've got going on.
Now.
I do have a group coachingprogram.
You can go to schoolskoolcomslash plan or you can just send
me a DM on Instagram.
I'll talk to you about it there.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
I don't have a team, it's just me, so if you're
looking for a group to join, youcan go check out Mike.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Rob, I got to have you come in and guest speak in
there.
You should come in and do alesson.
I can do that.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
I can do that I can do that, we'll do it.
I want to have a cam for it,but hey.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
We'll get Liam to come in and just sleep on camera
for an hour.
Perfect, encourage everybody todo it.
All I encourage everybody to doit.
All right, let's let Liam go tosleep.
Thank you, guys, for having meSeriously fuck V Shred.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
What's his name?
Speaker 1 (45:46):
B Shred, v Shred, c Shred all of them, fuck all of
them.
B Shred, a Shred, b Shred.
Rob, what unfortunate set of circumstances led you to
having me on here on InModeration, the show where we
give a moderate dose of infosarcasm and we already know
we're not Bobby approved.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Unfortunate set of circumstances.
Well, to start with, I was bornand then I discovered the
internet.
That was unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Let's just do a therapy session for Rob.
Let's get really into it, ohGod.
For those watching on YouTubeyou may notice that I don't have
a camera right now becauseeverything just breaks on me.
He didn't check the handsomesettings on his webcam and he
didn't adjust it well enough andit broke because he's just too
darn cute, I forgot to use theugly filter.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
That's what it was, yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Rob in the Canada land.
Is everything also made inChina there?
Or is that just in America,where you get everything that's
made in China?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
So, unfortunately, what happens is we import from
the US, so everything's made inChina shipped to the US and then
we import it from the US.
So we just get your crummystuff.
Is that how it works, unless weimport it from Europe?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I didn't know that's how it works, which I mean the
way things are going.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I think we're going to be importing a little bit
more from Europe now.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Do people in China have a lot of made-in-China
things, or are they importing itfrom elsewhere?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I was curious about that too.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'm assuming they do right, I would assume so yeah,
unless they're like well, thestuff we make is crap, let's
just sell it to the US, make alot of money and then buy the
good stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
They're actually master craftsmen and, just like
all the fucking duds, they'relike, ah, give that to the US,
they don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
They make iPhones with batteries that last for six
days.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Meanwhile, we can't get through fucking half the day
without being like are you?
Gonna charge her.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
No, not that one, the other one yeah, give us the one
that charges the phone in 12seconds.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
That's what I can tell exactly what got imported
from the us, because the us usesphillips head screws for
whatever freaking dumb reasonthey're.
Still, you guys are still usingphillips don't get Rob on his
Blurkerbergs or whatever thehell they're called.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
What are they called?
Again, it's a square.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
The ones from China they strip so badly and they
break and everything, and it's awe use Robertson Robertson.
That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, it's some random last name or whatever,
sure.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Rob's just gunning for a sponsorship here.
Robertson Screws.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Any Robertson Screw companies out there, hit me up
Email's open.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Everyone else is like hey, let me tell you about
Squarespace.
And we're like do you have anyscrews that need screwed?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
How about a square hole?
Let's talk about that.
The Robertson Screw use code inmoderation from 15% off.
Perfect, Get you a nice.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
That'll be our first major sponsor.
For those of you who arejoining us for the first and
last episode.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
The Robertson screw is just a square peg in what is
a normal screw and it's meant togive you more grip.
And strip less and strip less.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, well, that's my rent, you guys can go on, I'm
no carpenterist.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Is that the term for it?
I feel like that's not the termfor it.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I don't know Listen.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And immediately I go to my wife yeah, carpenterist,
exactly, I legitimately will trysome do something with my hands
and I will go to april and belike thank god social media took
off for me, because I'm so shitat any of this stuff and I'm
pissed and I'm hot and sweatyfrom like just the smallest
thing that you'd like anyoneelse would be able to do quickly
(03:39):
, like no, no, I, I don't.
I don't work with my hands.
Any muscles I have are showmuscles.
I don't.
That's not, it's not for actualwork.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I think you and mike are two peas in a pod on that.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Hey, mike well, you've got the show muscles,
I've got the grow muscles right.
It's still, if I get thempumped up they'll show, but it's
I.
I need somebody to clip liamsaying I do things with my hands
and then immediately go to mywife.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Oh, that's I mean normally the order is not okay.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Let's.
For those of you who areunfamiliar with me, god bless
you.
I am Mike from Mike needs aplan on Instagram and TikTok.
I lost 110 pounds and I helppeople to do the same thing, and
I help them to do so throughhabit adjustments, and I'm not
the, you know, grind set kind ofDavid Goggins approach.
I like doing things a littlebit more calmly and I would like
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to pick your guys brains.
We've talked a little bit aboutthis before, but the, the, the
rampant prominence right now ofinfluencer coaches using either
purely AI or using assistants topretend to be them to coach
people.
I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Don't spoil your feelings right at the beginning,
okay.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, I should have buried the lead, so I love AI.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I love that it's just being thrown.
They're able to throw out asmany plans as possible to as
many unsuspecting victims asthey can.
I think they should do thatmore.
And, yeah, fuck them.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
The funny thing to me is that all AI really did was
replace bodybuildingcom.
Is that all AI really did wasreplace bodybuildingcom?
Because a lot of those coachesthat have 1,000 clients which,
by the way, if a coach has 1,000clients that's a red flag they
would just take programs frombodybuildingcom.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I'm not going to name names here, but somebody who is
very prominent, extremelyprominent, like the Paul
McCartney of our industry, whichdoesn't narrow it down to
anybody specific.
I was told by somebody who gottheir coaching last year because
I posted something today aboutthe prevalence of AI being used
(06:00):
and giving people and I'm notagainst AI, mind you, I think it
can be used well it's just amatter of where's the
transparency.
When you sign up with a coachthat you saw online, you want to
work with that person, but Idigress Somebody had said that
they were working with a verywell-known coach and they were
talking about like hey, I'veactually got very strong legs, I
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need some upper body work done,and this coach, who was
pretending to be the coach thatthey were talking to, just
seemed to ignore it, just kindof went right past us.
Oh, cool gotcha, okay, I'mgoing to send you your split now
.
And then sent them somethingvery quickly and it was like
very leg focused, and so hesends it back and he goes.
I don't, this isn't what Ineeded.
(06:44):
I'm not really about this.
I kind of need like an all overbody thing.
And then from what the claimwas, uh, was that this person
received one of Jeff and this isnot Jeff Nippard's, that
Nippard that he was talking tohe was talking to somebody else,
but he had received a copy ofone of Jeff Nippard's uh things.
So he paid another coach toreceive basically just a
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rebranded Jeff Nippard split.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Somebody who's very well known and shouldn't be.
No one should be doing this,but this person especially
shouldn't be doing this.
So, like the quality ofcoaching you've got to be
careful with who you choose.
Well, seriously, fuck that.
We should trademark that beforesomebody takes it.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Or a prominent influencer starts saying that a
bunch.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, I'm feeling mustaches.
How about all of us do somemustaches?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Maybe we get our names changed.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Isn't it crazy that his last name is finally legally
fitness.
It's fitness Scott.
That's dedication Shout out toScotty.
He took a really big leap inhis independence and growth and
changed his name legally.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Really huge I also changed my last name legally
because I got a hyphenated namefrom my parents and fuck that
shit.
It's like the worst thing youcan do to your kids.
I was like I got to drop thislike a ton of bricks as soon as
I can.
That's fair.
Don't do that.
What was?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
uh ai, yeah, no I mean like that's the thing with,
with fucking ai, like it'sgonna be.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
It's that is not just gonna be in the fitness space,
it's gonna be like in everything, man, just like yeah, for
better or for worse, and I thinkwe just have to be get better
at recognizing it.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
That's really all you can do regulating it yeah, as
much as you can.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I mean, how much are you going to be able to?
It's going to be difficult.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I think it's going to be this as long as you are
transparent about it, right,like if we make people be like,
yeah, we'll give you programs,they're going to be ai generated
.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
They can't hide it I think there are apps that do
that already.
Now you don't have to pay likea coach for you, just pay for
the app.
That's $20 a month.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I think, like, when it comes to like schools and
stuff right, that's what itfirst started really getting
used for, right, it's like kidslike cheating on tests or
whatever, there's going to be alot of like this kind of like
criminal detective thing wherethey're both trying to like keep
up with each other, right,we're so like the schools are
going to try and detect if it'sai and then they ask you know,
(09:12):
their kids are gonna try and getaround that and I feel like
that's gonna what it's gonnakind of be all over, right, it's
like, oh, is this ai?
Let's, let's, let's, let's askai.
If this is ai, oh, it is ai, isAI?
Like, because I feel like it'sgoing to be a lot of that.
It's going to be kind of silly.
I think there's going to be alot of laws that have to be
created around it, because westill don't like fully
understand, like, when it comesto even like an image, there's a
(09:35):
lot of like argument right now,like who owns the image when
like an AI?
Because, like the company thatmakes the AI, you think maybe
they don't it, but they say no,like we don't want that.
Whoever asks for it, they ownit.
But there's been cases where,like, people created something
through ai for artwork that theyput on a book or maybe in like
a video game or something likethat, and then they got sued
(09:56):
because they didn't come up withit.
The ai did, but then who ownsit?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
and so it's we're owns it, and so it's we're.
We're still in the early stages.
The big problem there is thatwe think of ai as being well ai,
but it's not actually ai, andeverything that this ai um
language learning model is doingis just taking bits of the
(10:23):
internet and things that it'sbeen fed and just mashing them
together.
It's not actually intelligent,it's not actually thinking for
itself.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I don't know enough on AI to really speak to it.
The way that it comes up withthings is different than you
would expect, but I really don'tknow enough to say, like on the
whole, like oh, how it'screated, who owns it?
That sort of thing.
I think it's just going to bevery interesting going forward,
how the laws are created aroundit for that sort of thing,
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because you have to makesomething and try and it's not
going to be great at first.
I'll tell you that Never is.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Like I said before, I'm not against ai.
And to those of you who areabout to say it's destroying the
environment, stop voting forpeople who are like putting
pipelines directly into thewater, that just like pump
poison.
And like, why, no, it's notjust runoff.
It's like, no, we are producingpoison to put into the water,
specifically to poison the water.
Like, stop doing that.
First, it's the whole mythabout individual responsibility
(11:29):
being more powerful thanactually legislating
corporations that create 90 ofthe world's pollution.
But, sue me, I don't care.
Ai is here and there's nothingwe can do about it.
Um, so it's.
It really is just a matter of Iforget who said it, but it's.
It's gonna like consent.
Do you want to consent topaying someone to use an AI
(11:50):
system?
How do you tell if you get it?
Because not everyone's going to.
You're not going to say it upfront.
A coach isn't going to say, hey, I'm using AI to coach you.
They're going to say I'mcoaching you, I'm the person
who's doing it.
So, like Rob said, ifsomebody's got 500 clients, it
doesn't matter if, even ifthey're doing it manually,
that's probably not somebody.
(12:10):
You stretch too thin, you don'twant to work with them.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, I don't even know how people have, well, ok
with, like the, the whole, thewhole disabled spoon theory
thing.
I personally can do 10 to 15clients before I burn out, and
I'm sure there's people thatcould probably handle upwards of
50, because they're, you know,head down, they get the work
done.
But once you get past that,it's like okay, you're having to
(12:36):
take shortcuts and that's whenyou hire, that's where AI is
going to really thrive, though,right, it's like in a good way,
like I think it will make.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
It will reduce the things that humans have to do
and streamline things.
I think that's really one ofthe things AI will be really
good for is just getting rid ofa lot of the extra stuff that we
don't need and just making itMore simple for humans, because
that's what technology does,right.
It's all technology does.
It's just make it does work sowe can do less work, and I think
(13:05):
it can be really good at that.
But it's also going to do a lotof shit.
That's going to piss people off, and it's going to be very
interesting to see how it turnsout.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
My take on this is something that we've already
implemented in some placesgenerated content on Instagram
or a tick tock, you are required, under threat of them deleting
it if they catch it, to label itas AI generated content.
So every once in a while,you'll see a reel or a post or
(13:32):
something and it'll say beneathAI generated content.
If we are going to enact somekind of law to regulate this or
to enact some kind of level oftransparency, I think there
should be a little tag.
This is this is AI generate.
Send it out, but make sure thateverybody knows there's a
little fine print this is an AIgenerated response.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
So you don't fool so many people with rabbits on a
trampoline have you seen thatRabbits on a trampoline?
Have you seen that the rabbits?
Jumping on a trampoline.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
It's getting real.
It's getting real, it's gettingreal, it's getting really, it's
getting good, we're about to bethe grandparents.
On facebook, you ever see thoseposts where it's like something
absolutely ridiculous and allthe comments are don't let this,
make it to facebook yeah right,it's a jesus fish or whatever
like this.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
No, it's real, I saw it it's real that fish is
walking.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Praise god.
Yeah, like it's.
It's not, but yeah, so I don'tknow.
I thought I was going to beimpervious to it.
It turns out you put rabbits ona trampoline and I'm oh, that's
so cool wait, one justdisappeared I'm sure that's a
fluke, it's fine, wait.
It's like the hands are messedup.
It's got too many fingers.
Wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
A rabbit's not supposed to say like at the rate
it's going, it's going topretty much be able to fool
anyone soon, sooner rather thanlater.
And, like you talk aboutpolitics and, like you know,
using it in nefarious ways, yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I think it has a lot of potential, but it's going to
fuck some shit up.
Like getting AI to make a bunchof studies for you.
For what?
What was it?
Rf?
I think rfk did it rfk.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, that was funny.
They just had fake studies andthen when they came to him with
it it was just such a like ohwell, the other ones are
accurate.
So that was just like a fluke.
Like what the fuck you talk?
You just had ai fuckinggenerate fake studies.
They even use like real authorsnames and they check those
authors.
They're like no, that's notreal.
We that I've never done a studycalled this.
(15:26):
What are you talking about?
So good, when you leave yourwater out overnight and it
tastes bad in the morning, it'sbecause the water's haunted.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
It's gosh Good news though we're going to have less
red 40 in our Shake Shackburgers.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And all I saw there is like one of the congressmen
made a post.
Thanks to Blue Bell for makingice cream healthy again.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, very specific wording there.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I was like it's sugar and cream, Just because you
were.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I missed out on this news.
What happened to the ice creamthere?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
was a few hours.
I missed out on this news.
What happened to the ice cream?
There was a congressman.
He posted a photo of him atBlue Bell Ice Cream, which is an
ice cream manufacturer, and hesaid thanks to Blue Bell for
making ice cream healthy againand for removing the certain
dyes or artificial ingredientsor whatever.
Like small things.
It's sugar and cream you fucker.
Like it's sugar and cream, youfucker like it's not.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
No, I love all the people that are saying that um,
cola is going to be healthieragain now because it's using
cane sugar.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Problem people are like, well, I was drinking sugar
and I hear diet's terrible, soI'm going to go back because now
that it's in a glass bottle,it's made of cane sugar.
It's going to be better for me,like what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
and it's well it, and not even the diet people, the
people who are drinking regularum sodas.
They're going to be like ohwell, it's better for me now I
can have more it's, it's noteven like.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
It doesn't taste that different.
You put them side by side.
Yes, I know the allure ofhaving a mexican coke or
whatever is like, but it's.
You put them next to each other, they're gonna be the same.
You won't be able to tell thedifference.
It's the chemical structure ofhigh fructose corn syrup
compared to regular table sugar.
It's like there's like oneconnection.
(17:12):
That's not there.
I bring scientific snitch onhere.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
She'll talk about it but it doesn't matter for your
health, right?
That's the points.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
It doesn't matter for your health yeah it, it's sugar
, sugar is sugar, and if youhave it in moderation, what's?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
so fucking wild, though, is that they do this
while, like, looseningrestrictions on forever
chemicals, Like what the fuckyou were the ones fear mongering
that shit, which understandhonestly, understandably so,
because they're not great for us.
Oh, but no, we'll dump more ofthat into the rivers.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
We'll get rid of your fucking yellow five, like what.
Where I forgot about thelegislation saying about the?
Uh, we start need to stopvoting these people in I.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I literally forgot there was actual legislation to
just pump poison into the water.
That was like a joke that Imade up, like how ridiculous
would that be of a concept?
No, it's.
That's real.
That's what's really trulyhappening for like a state they
didn't like, or just everywhere,everywhere it's loosening the
(18:14):
uh, just because it was a abiden era thing, they're like,
well, it must not be good,because biden it Okay.
Yeah, biden did a lot of badshit.
That's not one of them, andit's not even a left-right thing
here going on.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
It's like I don't know.
I'm not going to speak forthese guys, but personally I
don't identify as a politicalparty.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I don't either.
I identify as a voter.
Pfas.
Chemicals affect everybody.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
It doesn't matter how you feel about anything, and as
voters.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
we should be caring about this.
We all breathe, we all eat Like.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
We all need water, so we should all have a mutual
interest, no matter what, oflike having clean water.
Why is that controversial now?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Fucking goody two-shoes over here wants people
to have clean water.
Why is that controversial now?
Fucking goody two-shoes overhere wants people to have clean
water.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, this motherfucker wants some fucking.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I grew up on sewer water and I was fine.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Back in my day we used to drink the dog's piss.
We'd bring him out in the back.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
These kids have it too easy.
We called it passing the bark.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Meanwhile, we still have all the social media.
That's fear-mongering.
Microwave popcorn because itsupposedly contains PFAS.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
That's our problem.
Americans are eating too muchmicrowave popcorn Like God damn.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Let's talk about this .
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, oh yeah.
And, to be clear, the studythat showed that there was PFAS
in the microwave popcorn lining,that actually was done just
before PFAS got banned, and sothat's not even it's a non-issue
.
Now I don't want to say thatthe study is obsolete, because
obviously it's always good tohave the science, but it no
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longer applies to the productthat is on the shelf so it's bad
to have in the popcorn, fine tohave in the water.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Got it apparently well, if we get rid of it here,
we can get more of it there.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
It's all checks and balances when I, when I die, or
are they gonna have to recycleme?
Is it gonna get to that pointwhere I'll have enough
microplastics in me that theycan turn me into a bottle?
We'll have to ask chat, gptchat gpt, can I be turned into a
bottle?
You?
This is your daily dose ofexistential dread from
moderation boys and theirwhipping boy me I'm sure there's
(20:35):
some good things.
Let's ask chat gpt chat gptgive me good news about
something.
Anything please, eventually.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
that's all it's just going to be, it's just like oh,
just fucking ask.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Ask AI Chat.
Gpt is like good news.
If you act fast, you can stillsee a panda at the zoo.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
The last one.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
The last one you got to get there.
It's in Memphis, but like startmoving.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
It's got all the forever chemicals right into its
cage.
So we directed all the foreverchemicals right into its cage.
So no more humans got it.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
It just goes to bury the panda.
It's his birthday, he's thelast of his species and we're
giving him a piece fastchemicals cake.
It's okay, though there's nored 40 in it.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Uh, naturally died humans are great if we, if we
put enough microplastics inthere, maybe we can plasticize
them and have a permanent statueof them.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Preserve them.
At what point are we enoughmicroplastics to not rot?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
There's only one way to find out.
Guys, we got to start chugging.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Where are you at?
Adam and Jamie are going toload themselves up with
microplastics and killthemselves.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Which one will decompose slower.
Well, we're on the Red 40 train.
Let's see what happens overhere.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Jamie Heinemann's like I'm only using recycled
plastic.
Adam's using the crazy stuff.
He's just eating Sprite bottles.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
That was one of my favorite shows.
It was such a good fucking show.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Wasn't it fantastic?
Very realistic too.
That was one of my favoriteshows.
It was such a good fucking show, wasn't fantastic?
Very realistic too.
They uh, the two of them hatedeach other, which is um
realistic.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I've listened to a lot of that I think it's not so
like they.
I don't like they weren'tfriends.
I don't know if they, like,full on, hated each other.
I think they had respect forone another, but they're like, I
don't like how you do what youdo.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
So I don't like you as a person, but, wow, you're
good at what you do.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I think it was.
It was weird respect, but youknow, dislike a respectful
dislike.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Let's all go around the room and name people that we
don't like, but we respect whatthey do.
I don't know if I have a Jamieout of like respect.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, as long as I got the respect R E S me out of
like respect.
Yeah, as long as I got therespect r-e-s-p-e-c-t.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I know how to spell respect.
What, what issues are you guysseeing in the world lately?
What message do you want outthere to everybody that you feel
like is pertinent right nowbecause mine currently is is
finding the right coach andtrying to discern ai from
actually working with somebodythat you r-e-s-p-e-c-t you find
out what it means to me.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I I am on the people shouldn't starve train.
That's pretty much where I'm atand it seems to be somewhat
controversial, which is verygood, I find quite interesting,
um, but like it's, there's justmany like different ways.
People get upset like I'm likehey, these people shouldn't
starve, and other people arelike, well, they deserve to
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starve, they're lazy.
Or like these people don'tdeserve to starve.
They're like what about theother people who are starving
more?
I'm like, okay, well, alsothat's bad too.
But like I'm, I'm trying tojust help out where I can.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
It's funny when people say what about the other
people that are starving more?
Because it's like we canaddress both at the same time.
Yeah, you can do two things.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I love it.
To me it would be like if I wasraising money for people with
like diabetes and someone camealong like oh so you want all
people with cancer to die.
I see you only care aboutpeople with diabetes.
You want all people with cancerjust fuck off.
Like what, are you insane?
That's kind of how I.
That's what I hear when likesomething like that comes up
(24:14):
right.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I also hate it as as a person that's on disability
and stuff and like there'speople that are trying their
best but the way society is, itmakes it hard for them.
Yeah, and the way thatdisability programs are created
actually makes it hard for themtoo.
(24:34):
People think it's easy justbeing on disability you know,
free ride or whatever and likethe money you get from
disability never cost covers thecost of living.
You always have to try and findsome other way to get money and
then as you get money, youstart to lose benefits and so
you eventually hit a brick wallof you are losing benefits
(24:57):
faster than you are making money, and so those are the people
that it's kind of crazy like weneed to give something that
allows them to get past thatbrick wall you're just like not
allowed to make money.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
The second you do, they're like oh, by the way, we
need all the money that we gaveyou back.
We need to, like take that backfrom you, because you should
have never had that.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah and that's the thing, like, and even if it's
like, oh, it's going to peoplewho don't like the amount of the
tax that you pay in taxes peryear to like fund SNAP, you know
, food stamps, whatever ispretty low.
It's like $30, $40, like a yearFor the average person.
It's obviously it depends onyour like tax for the average
(25:41):
person.
It's obviously it depends onyour tax bracket and stuff.
Right, but like it's relativelyit's not that much and I'm
happy to pay to give that moneyso people don't starve, like you
know, if there's a couple.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I also feel like a problem is a lot of people don't
understand how tax bracketswork.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Let's break down tax structures.
Do you want to spend the nextcouple hours just talking about
tax brackets, how, at a certainpoint, you no longer have to pay
taxes?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I'm working my way there.
I haven't got there yet.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I'm currently in the tax bracket where you don't have
to pay taxes.
It's called not fucking payingmy taxes.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Anyone can be there if you try hard enough.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I pay as many.
I'm unfortunately also in thetax bracket where I'm not paying
taxes, but it's called povertythere's many.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
There's different ways to skin a cat yep, I'm in
the tax bracket, it's called.
If you're hearing this podcast,I'm already dead.
You can't take money from adead man, mike, needs an escape
plan I've already escaped mikeneeds a body double to fake his
own death.
They're gonna find me with agun full of microplastics next
to me.
(26:47):
I think it must have been themicroplastics that killed him.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
It's the third one this week.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
The bullet was doused in Red 40.
Oh, the Red 40 got him.
That's what happened.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
The bullet that went through his brain covered in red
.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
40.
It must've been the dye.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
If you were going to overdose on any preservative,
which would you pick Mythbusters?
That's an excellent question.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
That's let's talk about like.
This is one of my favoritestatistics the the, the idea
that processed meat gives uscancer, which is technically,
empirically true.
If we look at the statistics,you have an extra four percent
uh risk on or um, was it fortypercent risk of increasing, um,
(27:32):
what's it called sorry I'mmixing up the numbers right now
of cancer, but that it's a fortypercent increased risk of your
already existing risk of coloncancer which is very small.
It's like four percent in theaverage population.
So you're just adding.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Basically, now it's a 4.4 percent chance which is
significant right when you lookat population scales millions of
people like that's going tolead to more cases but like I'm
not going to not have baconbecause of an extra 0.4 percent
chance of cancer, that's wherethis, this balance, comes in
right.
Like, I still enjoy, like um, adrink here and there.
(28:07):
So like and I know alcohol isnot good for me, but I'll have a
drink here and there.
I'm like you know what, if thisand this is what takes me out,
so be it.
Like I gotta, I'm gonna live mylife a little bit.
I'm still gonna try and dohealthy shit, but like also,
yeah, I want a sandwich, or lookat the process of somebody
that's not exercising In termsof the process meats.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
We can offset that a little bit with, just with fiber
Right, make sure you're gettingpeople.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
It's just a balance, man, Like you know.
It's like oh, have a drink here, have a sandwich there, it's
all fine.
Just try and do mostly healthyshit most of the time.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
The people that live longest are the ones that aren't
constantly worried about everysingle thing that they're doing
damn man, the fucking stress somany people I get.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
You know you get all the messages people like I'm so
stressed about this.
What about that?
I'm like why are you fuckingworried about aspartame so much?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
calm the fuck down like they're worried about it,
but here's my hot take, here'smy conspiracy.
All of the people who aretelling you not to intake
aspartame are nervous thatyou're going to lose weight
without paying them.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Don't have this low calorie snack, don't have to buy
their gum that doesn't haveaspartame or whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Like you're not going to buy my magic tea, you're not
going to buy my metabolic drops, you know, because you can lose
weight at home for much cheaper, I'll be right back.
I've got to do something.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Mike's got a plan to go, but, like the majority of
Americans, the majority ofpeople are not healthy.
Not because of aspartame it'snot always cracking a cold one,
that's what he's doing.
It's not because of aspartame,it's not because of
preservatives, it's not allthese buzzwords.
It's because they're eating toomuch and not exercising enough
(29:57):
and stressing too much which, tobe fair, there's a lot to
stress about and not sleepingwell enough.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
It's all the basic things, it.
And then I'd bring it into mycar.
I'd wait about 10 minutes to apoint where I could roll it up
like a burrito and eat it in mycar.
I didn't do this often, but itwas often enough to be
significant.
It's 4500 calories, I'm tellingyou, within 10 bites.
I'm already done, but I've gotthe rest of this pizza baby in
(30:36):
my hands.
What am I going to do with it?
So I would eat the whole thingand make myself sick.
It wasn't red 40.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah, that's another thing that uh doesn't help is we
get pushed that idea that youhave to finish your plate yeah,
yep it's okay to stop eating andput it in the fridge, or give
it to the dog, I don't care youcan just throw it out.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
You are the only person who was ever going to eat
that food.
You can't bring table scraps tothe local shelter where you
shouldn't, so if you are usingfood for a purpose it's not
intended for, you're wasting it.
If you eat it beyond the pointof feeling full and you make
(31:23):
yourself sick, you're wasting itstill, in my opinion anyway.
Yeah you're not helping anyoneby shoving it down your throat
when you're not hungry you don'tget extra points you can like
you.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
There's something you can try and help out, like uh,
you know uh, food banks andstuff, if you feel that way.
I'm actually meeting with uhmid ohio food bank tomorrow to
talk about like their hungermonth, about raising awareness
and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
So I don't know what we're doing, but we're trying to
figure something out can wejust talk real quick about what
uh food banks actually need,because what are they overloaded
with?
Speaker 3 (32:03):
usually there's a couple of things they're
overloaded with that they'regetting too much of, and I think
it's like certain canned goodsor for sure but there are things
that they don't get a lot ofyeah, I don't know what sort of
like food items that they needmore of let's ask chatT what
about like toilet paper and soapand stuff?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Do food banks give that out?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yes, I would assume so I actually one of my previous
roommates.
Unfortunately, he was animmigrant worker and they didn't
really understand the conceptof seasonal work to him.
So when winter came around, helost his job and you know, he
(32:45):
had to rely on a food bank for alittle bit and they provided
him with laundry detergent, soap, dish, soap, things, in
addition to food.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
This here is an AI-generated response.
I just talked to ChatGPT and itdoes say that non-essential or
non-food essentials are needed.
We've got toilet paper,toothpaste, deodorant, soap,
shampoo and conditioner femininehygiene products.
That's an important one.
You never think to bring thatthere.
But in terms of food peanutbutter, canned meat and fish,
(33:19):
canned soups, canned beans,vegetables, canned fruit, rice,
pasta, pasta, mac and cheese,shelf-stable milk that's an
interesting one yeah, it's agood one.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, I mean, I know they could always if it's
shelf-stable then it's got toomany preservatives and it's been
heated too high and all theselouis, you're trying to get all
of us, not me that's all theitems.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
There are bobby approved.
They can barely imagine fucking.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Imagine bobby fucking parishwalking into a food bank and
just like picking up items andbeing like this has sodium
phosphate in it.
You don't want that like justfucking tearing into the only
thing they they have, oh god,craft mac and cheese.
Do you know how they get itthis color?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
And he rips the box open and just pours it on the
ground.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
It's okay, though, because he'll go home at night
and sleep on his $3,000 mattress.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
That's lowballing it, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
You know who we need?
We've got Bobby Parrish.
He's about all the naturalstuff.
I'm going to be Bobby NonParish and I'm going to be
advocating just for the mostpreservative, full things.
Bobby Non Parish.
Spam is the best source ofprotein.
You guys have to try this.
This is a teriyaki flavoredspam.
(34:38):
This did not come from ananimal.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Oh no, you got to definitely get yourself some of
the meat alternatives.
Like I, go for the mostingredients.
This one has 47.
That makes it the best.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
So it falls a little bit short of our ideal 60, but
this will have to do Well no, no, he's still beating the 50
brain cell challenge thesechicken patties are made with
gasoline.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Are they fried with gasoline or are they are made
with gasoline?
Are they fried with gasolineand or they're just made with
gasoline?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
they actually have they just they take a syringe
and just damn.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I thought it was gonna be more like they use it
for for fire at least.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
No, they just it's just in there like a.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Like a chicken, you get the inside nice and juicy
Chicken gusher.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Oh God, it's just one .
Like in every pack.
Like it's just like.
Oh, I got the fucking gasolineone, damn.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
The worst bean boozled game ever.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
It's so Everyone has to have lighters in front of
their mouth at all times wheneating chicken, just in case the
world's going to shit.
We're at least getting beanboozled chicken nugget.
Gotta go down laughing this isno.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
No one take that idea .
Speaker 3 (35:52):
We're gonna patent it we might get in some legal
trouble.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
We just gotta send the package out with a waiver or
something honestly, I think weget past rfk.
He seems to be pro gas can wetalk about the logistics of
killing an animal in new yorkcity and, furthermore, can we
talk about the logistics of ananimal in new york?
He's never been, did he?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
if that's the case actually in new york, or did he
put it in his vehicle fromsomewhere else and bring it?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I thought it was already dead, and then he put it
on his trunk, that, or on his,the top roof of his car.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Was the bear alive in Central Park.
Like did it make it there?
Because, like a squirrel's notgoing to make it to Central Park
.
To those of you who areunfamiliar with New York City,
it's not like a lush natureparadise, it's just like a
shitty park inside of a shittycity.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
A bear is not going to make it time square of it.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I've never been to new york city.
I was like, oh my god, centralpark it's gotta be this
beautiful, lush, wild lands, andhere you are just spoiling it
for me.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
I know I mean, I've been to new york.
I like Central Park, it's nice.
I don't really like New YorkCity in general.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I like the cartoon show.
Central Park cartoon beautiful.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Central Park feels like outside time in maximum
security prison.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Outside time, time in the yard.
You get back to your fuckingcells.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
A bear is not going to make it there.
Where is it coming from?
It's got to travel from upstateNew Yorkork.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
It's gotta go across the bridge maybe it took the
fucking subway, we don't knowcrawling through the lincoln
tunnel.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
What?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
are you gonna try and stop a bear like no, I'm gonna
let him on if he tries to get onand just give him some space.
Maybe it's a shaman ad, I don'tfucking know.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Like it's fine how did I get on rfk with the bear?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
well, I mean, he has a history of putting dead
animals on the roof of his carsounds like he's a very
interesting history altogetherbut he won't get a flu vaccine
that's where he draws the linethat would be crazy I.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I've been seeing Dr Rubin post about all the vaccine
related stuff that RFK is doing.
That's insane.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
I'm going to be the anti RFK as well.
I'm going to get a vaccineevery day.
My arms are going to be sore.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Would they be?
Speaker 2 (38:18):
more or less sore than somebody who's pinning
every day.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Well, I was thinking like, oh, you had arm day,
vaccine day, it's every day,Alternating arms to give them
time to rest.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
We don't build muscle in motion.
We build it at rest.
Rest is important.
Let me talk real quick aboutgetting back into a fitness
routine, because I just recentlygot back into being in the gym.
I was out of the gym for alittle while.
I didn't gain back of hope.
I've stayed within the samefive to eight pound range for
the whole year.
(38:50):
I didn't track anything.
I didn't.
I wasn't paying all that muchmind in my food.
I was just practicing themindfulness that I have
instilled in myself and taughtto my clients.
Just like I don't want to walkaway from a table sick, I know
roundabout when I'm hungry, whenI'm not, I know what my
emotional triggers are and Iknow like this isn't.
(39:12):
This is just a craving, thisisn't like a biological need.
So I'm I'm fine, but gettingback into a routine, I don't
know why.
Switching arms just reminded meof this.
If anybody here right now hasfallen off of their journey, so
to speak, and getting back intoit is tough.
That's normal and regular, andyou are going to need a little
(39:34):
bit more time.
You're not like broken or weakor anything.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
For most of us, the gym isn't our personality.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah, and I don't want it to be mine.
So I kind of had to approachthis next phase with that in
mind.
I didn't want that to be mypersonality, like it was last
time.
I feel that yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I went through the phase of it being the main thing
in my life and now I had totake that step back and get back
into it myself and let myselfbe more relaxed with it.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Were you going super hard with it before, like I was.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Oh God yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Have you noticed that you're getting better results
being a little bit more inmoderation with it?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Well, right now I haven't been doing it enough to
gain any significant results.
Like you know, it's mostlymaintenance.
Um, there might be a little bit.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Well, I I stopped going enough to have lost a
little bit of muscle, and so I'mprobably putting some of that
back on, but not at anysignificant rate, just because
of, like, I'm taking it reallyeasy I'm not doing the whole six
days a week thing no, no, I I'mnot doing it that way this time
either, because I'm like Idon't want to end up separating
(40:55):
from it again and I'm tellingyou I think this time I'm
getting better results than Idid last time.
To be quite honest, going aboutit in a measured way, I go in
for like a full sprint probablybecause you're not on steroids.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
There's your problem well, actually that's.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
I came on here to announce that I am on 500 megs
of trim, not trend trim, that's.
It's a new thing.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Trim yeah, oh, okay trim it's thank you for being
transparent with us, unlike allthose AI-generated programs.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
The AI-generated bodybuilders who are taking ones
and zeros.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Yeah, how'd you come up with your cycle?
I asked ChatGPT what it feltlike I should take.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
ChatGPT said yes, 10,000 milligrams of
testosterone is fine.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
I want to be the most alpha male.
I can be ChatGPT, let me know.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
When they start measuring testosterone
supplements in grams, that'swhen you need to back away from
it.
Six grams seems like a lot.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
But the question is are you injecting it or are you
doing the cream, where you rubit on your testicles?
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Suppository.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Yes and yes, oh, okay .
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Right in.
Yeah, that sounds like theclean way to do it.
Well, except for your fingermaybe.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Controversial opinion .
This is the hill that I climbup this hill and slit my own
throat, and this is before Imake the argument.
I just went up there to die ina nice place.
If somebody looks like theirbody was inflated by a bike pump
and they're selling you aworkout plan that does not
include the amount of drugs thatthey're on, you are not going
(42:27):
to look like them, you are nevergoing to look like them and you
don't want to.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
And they should.
They have people they should betraining.
They should be trainingbodybuilders who are competing
on drugs.
Yeah, that's fine.
There's, there's a calling forthat.
It's not the regular person whojust wants to lose a little bit
of weight and get stronger.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Instead you should go to VShred for that.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
You go to VShred.
You get your somatotype read,you get your horoscope.
Read, get your astrology signed.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Find out what the new breaking studies at Harvard are
, so you can exploit those Allthe normal stuff you know.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
They'll read your, your palms.
They'll suntan your asshole.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
You get everything there one-stop shop at v shred.
We're really going for that vshred sponsorship.
Did you imagine a v?
Speaker 1 (43:11):
shred commercial after this.
Honestly, they gotta take whatthey can get now.
It's the comments on all theirposts.
You just seriously fuck v shredevery time they post like.
I don't think anybody can fallfor it anymore well, the problem
is people.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
They're um, they've got such a good marketing team
at targeting people who arebrand new to the space.
Yeah, and so that's before theyeven get introduced to people
like scotty yeah, interesting.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Get their money, get the fuck out.
Yep, we're going to have to.
We're going to get out.
It's like after midnight for me, so I need to get a moderate
dose of closing my eyes, fuckingwaiting for tomorrow.
Before you get woken up by achild.
Oh, she just said like six inthe morning, just screaming at
me like okay, let's go With myclients.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
I have habits that I I teach them, and everything
kind of fits into thosecategories.
Number one is sleep.
Yeah, it's number one is sleepof the six something that we
definitely don't focus on enoughgreed I need to go focus on it
right meow get on out of here,weren't you at sleep medicine
professional?
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Oh yeah, and my sleep was fucking dog shit while I
was in it too.
It was very ironic, I'm aware,All right, Well everybody.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
It has been wonderful to be back.
To be your fall guy is thegreat honor of my life.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
And once again, Mike, let everybody know where they
can find you.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
I say this every time .
I don't want them to find me.
I got enough people followingme.
Now you can find me atMikeNeedsAPlan on Instagram and
TikTok and all the places youcan go to Mike'sPlancom if you'd
like a non-chat GPT AI coach toguide you to success, who's
also not on steroids and mightbe taking a fatal dose of
(45:02):
preservatives later for fun.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
And Mike's also got.
Is it a group coaching thingthat you've got going on now
steroids and might be taking afatal dose of preservatives
later for fun?
Speaker 1 (45:07):
And Mike's also got is a group coaching thing that
you've got going on.
Now.
I do have a group coachingprogram.
You can go to schoolskoolcomslash plan or you can just send
me a DM on Instagram.
I'll talk to you about it there.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
I don't have a team, it's just me, so if you're
looking for a group to join, youcan go check out Mike.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Rob, I got to have you come in and guest speak in
there.
You should come in and do alesson.
I can do that.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
I can do that I can do that, we'll do it.
I want to have a cam for it,but hey.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
We'll get Liam to come in and just sleep on camera
for an hour.
Perfect, encourage everybody todo it.
All I encourage everybody to doit.
All right, let's let Liam go tosleep.
Thank you, guys, for having meSeriously fuck V Shred.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
What's his name?
Speaker 1 (45:46):
B Shred, v Shred, c Shred all of them, fuck all of
them.
B Shred, a Shred, b Shred.
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