The differences between Grunge and Goth culture in the 1990s. Some food items or mascots that had their own video games. A few of the teen idols and queens of the 1960s.
Episode 194 gives you your weekly dose of the Gen-X nostalgia buffet!
We kick things off by comparing and contrasting two subcultures that 90s high schoolers might have known or might have been. Grunge and Goth seemed similar but how similar were they really? We'll dive deep into both of them, including what it was like as a Grunge kid in high school in the 90s.
Some strange subjects end up as video games. We go way back in the day to look at food mascots and food items that were turned into video games. There are also a few scrapped ones that you have to hear to believe.
This week's Top 5 is all about teen idols and teen queens of the 1960s. These were the celebrities that the youth of America gravitated toward. How did their careers turnout though?
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Speaker 00 (00:00):
Hello, world, and welcome to the In My Footsteps
podcast.
I am Christopher Setterlund,coming to you from the vacation
destination known as Cape Cod,Massachusetts, and this is
episode 194.
May is coming in hot and heavy,and boy, do I have a lot to
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talk about with all you finepeople out there.
We're going to go back to myhigh school days of the 1990s
and discuss the What were thedifferences between grunge
culture and goth culture?
We're going to go way, way backin the day and look at some
food items or food mascots thateither had their own video games
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or were rumored to be havingtheir own video games.
There'll be a brand new topfive that are going to look at
the top five teen idols and teenqueens of the 1960s.
And there'll be a brand newThis Week in History and Time
capsule centered around thediscovery of the Tolland Man.
And if you don't know what thatis, stay tuned.
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It's an incredible, interestingstory.
All of that is coming up rightnow on episode 194 of the In My
Footsteps podcast.
What are we going to talk aboutthis week?
Oh boy, the weather is great.
I'm all caffeined up and hypedfor this week's show.
I will not be opening up a canof an energy drink like I've
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done before for fear of spillingit everywhere.
You'll have to just trust thatI am feeling good.
I hope you're feeling good.
Wherever you are, I hope youare settled in and ready for
about an hour of Gen X nostalgiato bring you back to the good
old days.
I'm super excited because thisis one of those shows where some
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of the things I'm going to talkabout weren't even on my radar
until a few weeks ago when Istarted putting together my
notes for shows going forward.
But we'll get into all thatstuff.
Before we get started, I wantedto take a few moments, starting
off especially to thank myPatreon subscribers, Lori, Mary
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Lou, Ashley, Kevin.
Leo, Marguerite, Neglectoid,Crystal, Matt, all of you, thank
you so much for being mybiggest supporters, my Patreon
backers.
I hope you all have checked outand enjoyed the newest bonus
subscriber-only podcast onPatreon.
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Ironically, it includes thestory of my very first road
race.
And it's ironic becausetomorrow from when I'm recording
this podcast is my first racein almost a year.
Last week on the show, Imentioned I would give you a
review of how the race went.
And then I realized justbecause the podcast goes up on a
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Wednesday, I recorded on theFriday before.
So I'm recording this onFriday.
My race is tomorrow.
So there's no review unless Itry to predict the future and
guess how I'll do.
Don't worry, next week there'llactually be a review of the
race, I promise.
Getting back to Patreon for amoment though, coming up in just
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a few weeks is episode 200 ofthe podcast, Listener's Choice.
If you go to Patreon, the firstof the polls for you on Patreon
to vote for what I'm going totalk about on episode 200, that
is up.
It's open for any Patreonmember, paying or non-paying.
So all of you that are onPatreon, go there and vote.
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If you're listening and youwant to make your voice heard
for episode 200, go become aPatreon member.
You don't have to pay.
Free members can do it too.
We'll get more into thehousekeeping part of the podcast
at the end, as I always say.
I like to give a little intro,but dive right into the meat,
the main buffet.
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And oh, this week we have a funtopic to start off with, one
that I hadn't thought of untilrecently, and then it was a lot
of research to put thistogether.
So we're going to kick offepisode 194, going back 30-ish
years to my high school days, asI try to tell you, or explain
the best I can, what were thedifferences between grunge
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culture and goth culture.
So let's get into that.
I can only speak for me, but Ibelieve that I was chasing my
identity throughout thebeginning of my life.
I don't know you out there whenyou first found something that
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kind of spoke to you as far aswhat you felt you were or where
you belonged.
I've told the story ad nauseumfrom August 1991, being in the
bedroom with my friend MattMedeiros, may he rest in peace,
hearing the first few bars ofNirvana's Smells Like Teen
Spirit.
And it being this awakening.
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Almost like there was lifebefore I heard that song and
life after.
It really made me feel likethat was my group, my tribe,
where I belonged.
It was the summer after 7thgrade heading into 8th grade
when I first heard Nirvana andgrunge music.
I immediately began embracingthe culture beyond the music.
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Mainly the clothing.
Torn jeans, flannel shirts, themore casual shoe vans,
airwalks.
When I got into high school, Inoticed there was another subset
culture that was similar to thegrunge culture, and that was
the goth kids.
The thing was, though, I knew Iwas grunge.
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Grunge music, that was mything.
Being mistaken for this othergroup of people was not what I
wanted.
It dawned on me a couple ofweeks ago, the whole grunge
versus goth discussion, whatmade up each.
Those of you my age, littleolder, little younger, who were
part of the grunge culture orwho were part of the goth
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culture, this is going to speakto you as I kind of do an
overview of both of these setsof people and specifically how
it related to the high schoolexperience.
I started high school in thefall of 1992.
I know, it's awful.
But in the halls of 1990s highschools, identity was
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everything.
Cafeteria tables seemed almostofficially segregated by
cliques.
There were two alternatingcultures that stood out, and
that was grunge and goth.
Both sides wore a heavy dose ofblack culture.
But a closer look revealed theycame from completely different
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worlds, musically,stylistically, and
philosophically.
So let's get into those,starting with the music.
You listeners to the podcastknow my depth of love for
grunge.
Grunge music exploded out ofSeattle in the late 80s, early
90s, led by Nirvana,Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Alice in
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Chains.
It was aggressive, distorted,full of existential angst.
The lyrics to grunge songscentered on alienation,
disillusionment with societalexpectations, depression, a deep
mistrust of fame andcapitalism.
This was the sound of kids whodidn't believe the American
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dream was meant for them.
That may not speak to all of uswho were grunge.
I definitely had lofty dreamsand expectations.
But I was also growing up in ahardworking, middle-class family
on Cape Cod.
It was not Manhattan.
It was not Beverly Hills.
But it also wasn't the ruralareas that don't have
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electricity or Wi-Fi oranything.
It was literally in the middle.
Goth music, on the other hand,had its roots in late 70s and
early 80s post-punk bands likeSuzy and the Banshees, Bauhaus,
The Cure.
It evolved into a moreatmospheric and ethereal
direction with groups like DeadCan Dance, This Mortal Coil.
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Goth music often exploredromanticism, death, mythology,
spirituality, and the beauty insadness.
Grunge was rough andrebellious.
Goth was haunting, poetic, andsometimes otherworldly.
Does that sound like a gooddescription so far of grunge
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versus goth?
Back in the 90s, there weren'tiPods.
There weren't MP3s.
So as far as hearing that musicin the hallways of the high
school, I don't think that wasreally possible because that
would have been the biggestindicator that you were grunge
or goth.
Ooh, listen to that music theygot going on.
So the easiest way to kind ofdetermine where you stood on the
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side of the fence was theclothing.
Flannel versus Victorian decay.
Grunge fashion, I know allabout it.
It was about rejecting fashion.
It was anti-style.
Built from thrift stores, armysurplus shops.
I never went there for myclothes, but the flannel shirts,
ripped jeans, that was all me.
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I never was into the combatboots, baggy sweaters, band
t-shirts, which is ironicbecause I love Nirvana, but I
was kind of like, yeah, I don'twant to promote that because
that's not what grunge is allabout.
Clothing in the grunge style,it was cheap, easy to find, and
most importantly, unpolished.
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It was about dressing like youdidn't care what people thought
because you didn't.
I didn't buy jeans and rip themup and destroy them.
But as they got to that point,they became more and more in
style.
I had pairs of jeans thatlooked like you would have stuck
a grenade in there and itexploded and whatever was left
was what I wore.
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On the other hand, gothfashion, it was deliberate and
theatrical.
Black was the dominant color,but textures mattered.
You know, lace, velvet,leather, mesh.
Makeup was crucial.
Boys and girls both wore heavyeyeliner, pale foundation, dark
lipstick.
Some goths leaned into aVictorian or medieval or even
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fetish look.
They might sport corsets,fishnets, and platform boots.
Others went more minimalistic,spiky hair, torn clothes, and
kind of a do-it-yourself punkpatch.
Even though it was two sideskind of the same coin...
In high school, a grunge kidlike me, I probably looked like
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I rolled out of bed five minutesbefore class started.
Whereas a goth kid might havespent hours perfecting their
look, all to be called a freakby the idiots on the football
team.
What about what we believed,grunge versus goth?
Grunge attitudes were heavilynihilistic, but not necessarily
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intellectual about it.
A lot of, whatever, it's allbullshit anyway.
That kind of attitude, which Idefinitely had.
I think that's also an overallGen X thing.
Apathy was the statement.
Grunge kids tended to mockanything that smelled like
effort.
Pep rallies, school dances,dress codes.
Success was viewed withsuspicion.
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Authenticity mattered more thanachievement.
And again, I'm not saying thisas every single grunge person
had this exact belief system.
But that was kind of theoverarching point to the grunge
culture.
Grunge and goth kind of met upwith that similar attitude,
carrying a strong dose ofdisillusionment.
But goth, the worldwide viewwas more introspective,
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artistic, even spiritual.
Goths didn't necessarily hateschool traditions because they
were stupid.
They hated them because theyfelt meaningless in a cruel and
shallow world.
With goth, there was a tendencytowards existentialism,
romantic fatalism, and afascination with beauty in the
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tragic.
In high school, if you weregrunge, you might have skipped
prom altogether or shown up in aflannel and Doc Martens.
Or goth kids, you might havegone, ironically, dressed as a
vampire, slow dancing under theglittering disco ball with
solemn expressions.
So we've discussed thedifferences between grunge and
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goth.
There is some common groundbetween the two, which is where
I think some of themisunderstandings about the
differences come up.
Despite the differences, bothgoth and grunge kids in high
school were often seen asweirdos by the mainstream, the
preppies or jocks or some of therich families, the rich kids.
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Both cultures rejected therah-rah optimism of 90s pop
culture and the squeaky cleanimages of boy bands and
cheerleaders.
Grunge and goth were both aboutauthenticity over conformity.
But despite that, theyexpressed it in very different
ways.
Whereas grunge was aboutsurviving the real ugly world by
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caring less, goth was aboutfinding or creating beauty in
that ugliness.
In short, grunge people like mewore ripped up jeans because
they couldn't care less, whereasgoth kids wore torn lace
because they cared deeply justabout different things.
So if you were a teenager inthe 90s, whether you wore torn
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jeans and flannel or a velvetcape, it said a lot about how
you process the sadness of theworld around you.
So those of you that werearound back then, which of our
tables would you have sat at?
The grunge table or the gothtable?
And those of you younger, doyou relate to any of these
cultures?
Because like I said, noteverybody who was grunge or goth
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fit every single descriptionthere that I came up with when
researching this topic.
But a lot of them are true forboth.
I think my upbringing in thegrunge culture kind of helps me
now in my late 40s deal withjust the weird and chaotic and
pretty awful times that we livein.
And I think the same goes forgoth.
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Like when you were young,trying to find the beauty in all
the bad.
But there you go.
Kind of an overview look atgrunge culture versus goth
culture.
The main takeaway I have fromthis discussion is the fact that
I started high school 33 yearsago.
I think that's the main thing Icame away with.
It's like, oh man, where didthe time go?
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This week in history, we aregoing back 75 years to May 8th,
1950 and the historic discoveryof the Tolland Man.
In a peat bog near Silkborg,Denmark, two brothers, Vigo and
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Emil Hojgaard, were digging forpeat, which was a common fuel
source in rural areas, when theyunearthed what they first
thought was a recent murdervictim.
The body was so well preservedthat the details of the face,
including stubble on the chin,closed eyes, and a serene
expression appeared almostlifelike.
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Authorities were called in, andsoon it became clear this was
no modern corpse, but a man whohad died over 2,000 years ago
during the Iron Age.
Peat bogs are known for theirability to preserve organic
matter exceptionally well due totheir cold, acidic, and
oxygen-poor environments.
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These conditions halt the usualprocesses of decay, allowing
soft tissue, hair, and evenclothing to survive for
millennia.
The body found in the bog wasnamed the Tollan Man, and he was
found curled in a fetalposition wearing a pointed
sheepskin cap, a hide belt, anda noose made of braided leather
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around his neck.
Scientific analysis at the timerevealed that the man had been
around 40 years old at the timeof his death.
His last meal preserved in hisstomach was a simple porridge
made of barley, flaxseed, andother grains, typical of an Iron
Age diet.
Radiocarbon dating placed hisdeath around 400 BCE, during the
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pre-Roman Iron Age.
Now, one of the mostinteresting aspects of the Talon
Man is the manner of his death.
The noose and the position ofhis body suggest he was hanged,
and many scholars believe thiswas part of a ritual sacrifice
rather than an execution for acrime.
His careful placement in thebog rather than being simply
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discarded indicates that hisdeath held cultural or religious
significance for the people ofthe time.
After his discovery, theTallinn man was carefully
studied and preserved.
His head and face were sostriking that they became iconic
images in history books,museums, and archaeological
texts.
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His body was partiallyreconstructed and put on display
at the Silkboard Museum inDenmark, where he still remains
one of the most visitedexhibits.
The discovery of the Talon Manprovided a rare, humanizing
window into life and death inIron Age Europe, because unlike
pottery shards or weapons, anactual body tells a deeply
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personal story, one thatconnects the modern world with
its ancient roots.
His peaceful expressioncontinues to fascinate both
scholars and the public,reminding us of the enduring
mystery of how and why he died.
The Tallinn Man is more thanjust an archaeological specimen.
He's a symbol of humanity'sdeep past.
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His discovery sparked renewedinterest in bog bodies, the
study of prehistoric Europeancultures.
As scientists continue toanalyze his remains with
ever-advancing technology, newinsights emerge about ancient
diets, health, and socialstructures.
The Tallin' Man stands as aquiet, poignant messenger from a
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forgotten world, reminding usof how much we have yet to learn
about our ancestors and howmuch they still have to teach
us.
And that man, the Tallin' Man,was discovered in a peat bog 75
years ago this week in history.
Speaking of fascinating thingsyou can find in a peat bug, I
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have just discovered a brand newtime capsule where at the same
date, the Tallin' Man has beenfound, May 8th, 1950.
What was going on in the worldof pop culture back then?
Well, let's find out.
The number one song was TheThird Man Theme by Anton Karras.
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Obviously, this song was fromthe movie The Third Man.
Incredibly, the song spent 11weeks at number one.
Anton Karras was a zitherplayer, which is kind of a
stringed instrument that youplayed in your lap.
Despite his fame from the ThirdMan theme, where different
variations of the song have soldmillions of copies, he was
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always seen as a one-hit wonder,and Anton Karras never
considered himself a celebrity.
The number one movie wasCinderella.
And you could get into thetheater with a ticket costing 46
cents.
This is the beloved musicalfantasy, the Disney animated
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film about Cinderella, herwicked stepmother, and two evil
stepsisters that are jealous ofher.
The film was a massive hit inits lifetime in theaters because
it's been re-released a coupleof times.
It's made more than $180million total.
That makes it kind of hard toadjust that for inflation
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because I know Cinderella gotre-released in theaters in the
80s.
The film is also currently 95%fresh on Rotten Tomatoes, so it
has stood the test of time sinceits release 75 years ago.
The number one TV show was theTexaco Star Theater.
This is the very, very earlydays of television television.
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As in 1950, only 9% ofhouseholds in the United States
had a television.
The Texaco Star Theater, it wasa variety show.
It started on the radio in 1938before moving over to
television in 1949.
It was hosted by Milton Berle,and when it crossed over to TV,
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Milton Berle got the nicknameMr.
Television.
At its peak, the Texaco StarTheater got ratings as high as
an 80 share, meaning that 80% ofTVs in the country were tuned
to that show at the same time.
And if you were around backthen, May 8, 1950, maybe you've
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heard about the Texaco StarTheater show, and you want to
get your own TV so you can watchMr.
Television Milton Berle, well,you're in luck.
At Sears and Roebuck, you canget yourself a silver tone
television, black and white,complete with a 12 and a half
inch screen, which is smallerthan the laptop I'm recording
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this podcast on, complete inthis big boxy cabinet.
You could get it for $199.95 orjust over $2,600 when adjusted
for inflation to 2025.
And I know you're curious, whatcould you get for about $2,600
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today when it comes to a TV?
I found an LG OLED C1 TV, smartTV, flat screen, 48 inch
screen, built in with Alexa, AIpowered 4K gaming capabilities.
That's $2,499.
So it's still less than whatthis 12 and a half inch black
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and white screen would have costyou 75 years ago.
That wraps up another timecapsule, another This Week in
History.
We're going to stick to theearly days of television for the
new top five.
So teenagers of the 60s,rejoice.
We're going to look back atsome 1960s teen idols and teen
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queens coming up right now.
Some of the most fun times Ihave when it comes to this
podcast is when I discover atopic I hadn't even thought
about putting on the show.
Because I've said since I beganthis podcast four and a half
years ago, when I started it, Ihad enough material to probably
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do the podcast for four years.
And that was if I did no moreresearch.
Obviously, it has been morethan four years.
I've done a lot of research.
And on last week's show, Italked about some people who
were briefly famous in the1970s.
And this included Leif Garrett,the singer who was considered a
teen idol.
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And that's where I got theidea, oh, I should probably do
segments about teen idols andteen queens from all these
decades, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s,eventually 2000s.
That's what I'm going to dohere.
We are starting off the teenidol craze by looking at the top
five teen idols of the 1960s.
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So just to put it out there,teen idol or teen queen, it's
not necessarily that the peoplewho I'm talking about were
teenagers at the time.
It's more that's the group theyappealed to.
Just in case anyone out therehears some of these names and
then goes to Wikipedia to findtheir ages out and say, wait,
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they were 25 in the 60s.
I'm no fool.
I've done content creation longenough to know that there's
always people that aremicromanaging what you do.
Trust me, I've gotten commentson YouTube posts if I've
accidentally misspoken or hadone bit of info that's wrong.
But before I go on a rant,let's actually get into this top
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five.
As with many of these topfives, they are in no particular
order.
And we've got some honorablementions to kind of whet your
appetite for who did you have onyour wall as posters and such
in the 60s.
Did they have posters on thewall in the 60s?
I don't know.
I wasn't alive back then.
So honorable mentions for teenqueens and idols of the 1960s
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include the Beatles.
because that one was way tooeasy.
I couldn't leave them off.
There was also Elvis Presley,although I would have put him in
a top five for teen idols ofthe 50s, but I couldn't leave
him off the 60s either.
Another honorable mention wasBobby Darin.
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He was more late 50s, early 60swith his songs Mack the Knife,
Dream Lover, and Splish Splash.
Another honorable mention wasis Paul Anka.
He had the hits back then,Puppy Love and Put Your Head on
My Shoulder.
And the final honorable mentionis Bobby V.
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He had 10 top 20 hits,including the number one hit,
Take Good Care of My Baby in1961.
So those were the honorablementions.
Do you remember any or all ofthose?
I mean, Beatles and Elvis arepretty obvious.
They were almost too obviouswhere I was almost tempted to
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leave them off.
And I was like, well, I can'tbecause that's what you think of
with the 60s.
Let's get into the actual topfive, though.
We're going to start it offwith number one, Ricky Nelson.
Ricky Nelson got his start onthe TV show The Adventures of
Ozzie and Harriet, which starredhis parents, Ozzie and Harriet
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Nelson.
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Ricky
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Nelson started his recording career in 1957 at the
age of 17.
Fun fact is that Ricky Nelson'ssong Poor Little Fool was the
first ever number one song onthe Billboard Hot 100 chart when
it was created in 1958.
Between 1957 and 1962, RickyNelson had more top 40 hits than
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anybody besides Elvis Presleyand Pat Boone.
His star slowly faded after thecancellation of The Adventures
of Ozzy and Harriet in 1966 anda few film roles in the late
60s, early 70s.
Number two is Shelley Fabares.
Shelley Fabares was most knownfor her role as Mary Stone on
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the Donna Reed show from 1958 to1963.
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People closer to my age might remember her from the
TV show Coach, where she playedChristine Armstrong.
The show was on from 1989 to1997.
It starred Craig T.
Nelson.
She received two primetime Emmynominations for her role on
Coach.
So some might say that was thepeak of her fame, was actually
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in the 90s.
But in the early 60s, she wason the Donna Reed show.
She had a number one song,Johnny Angel, in 1962.
She also had some film actingcredits, including as Elvis'
love interest in the film GirlHappy in 1965.
Number three is Anne Margaret.
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Anne Margaret Olsen was kind ofa big pinup girl from the 60s.
I am sure a lot of you outthere that were teenagers in the
60s, teenage boys, had a crushon Anne Margaret Olsen.
Her first film was Pocketful ofMiracles in 1961, and she
received a Golden Globe Awardfor Best New Star.
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Other major movies that AnneMargaret has been in include Bye
Bye Birdie, Viva Las Vegas,Tommy, and for those of us that
are younger, she was the loveinterest in Grumpy Old Men.
Much like pretty much all theseother teen idols and queens of
the 60s, Anne Margaret wassinger and actor.
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Her biggest hit was I JustDon't Understand, which came out
in 1961 and got into the top20.
So she wasn't a major singingstar, but it was a little bonus
on her acting Sunday.
Number four is Frankie Avalon.
Frankie Avalon began as ateenage singer in the late
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1950s.
He had two number one hits,Venus and Why.
Those who grew up in the 1960sprobably know Frankie Avalon
more from those Beach Partyfilms that he was in.
Beach Party films were kind ofa sub-genre of movies, mainly
from about 1963 to 68, and theydealt with exactly what you
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thought.
Teenagers having parties on thebeach and some kind of easily
fixable problems.
It was a lot of singing,dancing, surfing, custom cars,
tons of bonfires on the beach.
The first film in that series,Beach Party, was the name of the
movie.
It was a surprise hit, which iswhy there were so many others
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that came out.
The original Beach Party madeabout $2.3 million on a budget
of $200,000.
So obviously the film creatorscouldn't pass up a chance to
make that kind of easy money.
Now, I was almost tempted toput this next one together with
Frankie Avalon.
Those of you that grew up backthen are probably asking where
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she is.
Well, let's get to number fiveon the list of 1960s teen idols
and queens, and that is AnnetteFunicello.
She was basically partner incrime to Frankie Avalon in all
those Beach Party films.
Annette Funicello got her starton the original Mickey Mouse
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Club.
She would have been one of theteen crushes of the boys in the
1950s.
As with pretty much all theseother teen idols I mentioned,
Annette also had a singingcareer.
She had a pair of top 10singles with Tall Paul and Oh
Dio Mio.
Again though, she is mainlyknown for the Mickey Mouse Club
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and then in the 60s the BeachParty films with Frankie Avalon.
There was even a comeback thatI remember going to see in the
theater with Back to the Beach,which was Frankie and Annette
returning to the beach wherethey first met.
They play husband and wife inthis movie.
It came out in 1987.
It wasn't a major box officehit, but it got good critical
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reviews.
But there you have it.
Top five 1960s teen idols andteen queens.
Those of you that grew up backthen, do you remember all of
them?
Did you spend loads of money togo see their films or buy their
albums?
As I said, in the future, we'llbe doing teen queens and idols
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from other decades.
But I wanted to start with the60s because that seems to be
kind of when it all began.
I don't know if they calledthem that in the 50s.
There's no really good segue togo from 60s teen idols to this
next topic.
So let's just jump into fooditems and mascots that were made
into video games.
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Sometimes as I get closer to200 episodes of the podcast, I
find it interesting the thingsthat I start to research for
topics.
I feel at times it's like I sitback and think about the most
random thing I can, or somethingthat's so specific that there
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can't be an actual segment thatI can mine information from.
So here, as we go way back inthe day, is an example of that.
If I mentioned to you videogames that were based on food
items or food mascots, you'd belike, man, what in the world do
you do with your time to sitaround and think of ideas like
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that?
And after I sat back andthought of my life choices for a
few minutes, I would say, it'sinteresting to me.
And hey, you're listening tothe show, so maybe it's
interesting to you too.
What I wanted to do with thissegment was not only look at the
food item or mascot games thatcame out, but also a few that
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were rumored or had been indevelopment and got cancelled.
Because I'm a big fan of whatmight have been.
So I've got a whole bunch ofvideo games to get into here.
I'm going to try not to rushthrough them all.
Maybe there'll be a part two tothis.
One I can kind of gloss over alittle.
Is the game Yo! Noid?
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This was a game for theNintendo Entertainment System in
1990 based on the Domino'sPizza mascot, the Noid.
If you want more informationabout this game or the Noid
itself, I did a whole segment onthe Noid back in episode 177.
So you can go check that oneout.
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We'll cross that one off thelist.
We can dive a little deeperinto the Cool Spot game.
This came out in 1993 for theSuper Nintendo and Sega Genesis.
Cool Spot was the mascot of7-Up.
So the 7-Up logo is the number7, the word up, and that red dot
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in the middle.
So they decided to turn the reddot into a character and bring
it to life.
Sneakers and sunglasses.
As Cool Spot, you're supposedto collect other red dots and
get enough, finish the levelwithout getting killed.
You're also the size of the reddot, like on the soda can, so
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the rest of the world is bigcompared to you.
This game did really well.
It got great reviews, and itsold more than a million copies.
It just shows the power of thatCool Spot advertising campaign.
In fact, there was a follow-upgame called Spot Goes to
Hollywood that came out in 1995.
When it comes to food itemmascots, the one that has the
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most games, or at least one ofthe most, is Chester Cheetah
from the Cheetos brand of snackchips or puffs or crunches or
whatever the hell you want tocall them now.
Chester Cheetah now is likecomputer animated British voice.
In the 80s, he was a surferdude.
Chester
Speaker 02 (36:03):
Cheetah
Speaker 00 (36:11):
had his first video game in 1992 with Too Cool to
Fool.
And then in 1993, there wasChester Cheetah Wild Wild Quest.
The idea with Too Cool to Foolis Chester Cheetah is trapped in
a zoo and he has ordered abunch of motorcycle parts, but
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the zookeeper got them beforethey were delivered to him.
So that's the quest is to findthese parts and build your
motorcycle so you can escape thezoo.
I mean, I talk about randomthings that I put together for a
segment of the podcast likethis.
Imagine being the people thatcame up with the actual games
that I'm talking about.
A talking cheetah in a zootrying to put together a
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motorcycle.
That is a this is your brain ondrugs line if I've ever heard
one.
There was even rumors aboutthere being a third Chester
Cheetah video game.
Kind of an open world Cheetoskingdom game.
But despite the popularity ofChester Cheetah and Cheetos, the
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games didn't sell well, so thethird game was scrap.
If Chester Cheetah isn't theking of food mascot video games,
then the actual one has to beMcDonald's.
There was a game MC Kids thatcame out in 1992 for the
Nintendo.
Where you travel throughMcDonaldland to help Ronald
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McDonald recover his magic bag.
I never played the game.
I don't know what was in hismagic bag.
I don't know if the kids whohelp him find it would want to
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stick around to know what's init.
There was also a game onlyreleased in Japan for the
Famicom that was called DonaldLand.
This came out in 1988, and it'sa game where you help to rescue
the McDonald Land characters.
In addition to those two, therewas another game, McDonald's
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Treasure Land Adventure, whichcame out for the Sega Genesis in
1993.
This one stars Ronald McDonaldin a colorful fantasy world
finding treasure maps.
It was pretty random and mademore random because the game was
made by Treasure, who was thesame developers that made games
like Gunstar Heroes and Ikaruga.
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These games did well enoughbecause any kid that's grown up
in the last 50 years goes toMcDonald's as a kid.
Granted, over the last 10, 20years, there's been less of an
emphasis on the child-friendlycharacters.
Like, Ronald McDonald has beenphased out a lot.
Back in my day, there was allof those characters, so I could
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see video games based aroundthem being popular.
An interesting example ofStriking While the Iron is Hot
is a game that actually wascancelled, although it was
almost finished.
That was a game called TheCalifornia Raisins The Grape
Escape.
This would have been for theNintendo Entertainment System.
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It was due to be released in1990.
Now, those of you that arearound my age, when you think of
the California raisins, theclaymation ones with the
commercials where they weredancing to Heard It Through the
Grapevine, that is late 1980s,right?
86, 87.
There's only so much of a shelflife of claymation raisins.
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So when they were developingthis game in 1990, where you
play as the raisins...
It was kind of too late.
If they had put this out forthe Nintendo in 1987 or 88, it
might have been popular.
But in 1990, they realized,man, these raisins aren't
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popular enough.
We're going to lose money onthis.
So they ended up scrapping thegame.
For the next one, we go wayback to 1983 and the Atari 2600
with the game Kool-Aid Man.
Graphics were not great for theAtari 2600 compared to now.
Back then when I played it, itwas the coolest thing ever.
But you played as the giant redpitcher of Kool-Aid, busting
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through the walls to save thekids from the thirsties.
Back then in 1983, I wasplaying the Atari.
I don't know if I ever heard ofthis game, or maybe if I saw a
commercial for it and asked mymother and she was like, yeah,
I'll get you something elseinstead.
instead of wasting my money onthis.
Kool-Aid Man must have beensuccessful enough because other
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drink-based games came out,including the game Coca-Cola
Kid, which came out for the GameGear, but it was only released
in Japan in 1994.
Speaker 03 (41:26):
it's
Speaker 00 (41:30):
a very rare obscure game where you play as a radical
kid skateboarding around it isthe quintessential stereotypical
90s attitude those of you thatwere around then If I say 90s
attitude, you can see graphicsand colors and just general
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mannerisms or whatever.
You know what I'm talkingabout.
So a whole video game that justsums it up.
But there was also the gamePepsi Man.
This came out for thePlayStation in 1999.
And you play as Pepsi Man.
Pepsi Man was the Japanesesuperhero version mascot for the
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Pepsi brand.
Think like the Spider-Mancostume, but blue, silver, red,
like the Pepsi logo.
If you've never heard of thePepsi Man game, it's because it
stayed in Japan.
It didn't sell well, and therewere rumors that an American
company was looking to buy therights.
But it was kind of a genericgame, a runner where you're
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running across the screen,avoiding obstacles.
Going back though, McDonald'swasn't the only fast food chain
to have video games based on it.
There were actually severalgames made for Burger King.
There was Sneak King, where youare the Burger King mascot
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trying to deliver burgers topeople.
There was Big Bumpin', whereyou are riding in bumper cars.
And Pocket Bike Racer, whereyou race pocket bikes.
These were all cheaply made.
They all came out kind ofaround the same time, 2006-ish.
And they were for the Xboxseries of consoles.
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Any of you ever play any ofthose Burger King games?
I hadn't even heard of them.
I had to save the best forlast, at least as far as games
that actually came out.
The most random food product tohave a game was Chex cereal.
There was a game called ChexQuest.
This was a PC game that cameout in 1996, and it was very
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much like the video game Doom,where you have to go around and
fight the slimy phlemoids.
This game, I don't know howmuch it cost to make, but it was
actually released in cerealboxes in 1996.
The game has developed a cultfollowing, and there have been
other Chex-themed games, mostlycentered around the Chex mix.
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There were other rumored gamesthat never got past the planning
stages or concept art.
There was a rumored Popeyes theChicken Chain game in the late
90s.
There was a rumored Mr.
Peanut adventure game in theearly 2000s that never came to
be.
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There was an early 90s TacoBell game that was based around
Indiana Jones that they said itgot released for the PC but was
so obscure that you couldn'teven find it even when it was
out.
So those are some of the mostrandom food items and mascots
that were made into video games.
Are there any that you thinkshould have been made?
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I mean, you had Coke, Pepsi,Kool-Aid, 7-Up, Burger King,
McDonald's.
I'm surprised Twinkie the Kiddidn't get a game.
Or maybe all of those oldHostess characters.
It could have been like MarvelAvengers.
Nostalgia is cyclical, though,so there is still time to make a
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Twinkies game.
Come on, Hostess, get on that.
But all that talking about foodand food mascots has got me
hungry.
So before I shut down and gohave lunch, that's going to do
it for episode 194 of the In MyFootsteps podcast.
Thank you all so much fortuning in.
Thank you for making it to theend.
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Thank you so much to all of youwho share this, who tell
others, check out this wacky GenX guy that talks about
nostalgia.
For all the craziness of myhumor, I do try to keep these as
structured as I can so thatwhen you listen, you don't get
to the end and feel like I'veled you out in the woods and
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just left you there.
The fun doesn't end there,though.
Next week is episode 195.
We are going to go to themovies in 1985, where I'm going
to give you every movie thatwent to number one in 1985 and a
little about what theaters werelike.
We're also going to talk aboutanother topic I can't believe it
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took me this long to get into,and that is Transformers, the
toys, the TV show.
Oh, and we're going to havesome useless early internet
features.
Think back to when you firstgot online and some of the stuff
that was there then that youthought was important but ended
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up ultimately becoming uselessand obsolete pretty fast.
So that's next week on episode195.
But like I said at the top ofthe show, go to patreon.com.
The link's in the descriptionof the podcast.
Vote on what you want to see onepisode 200.
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I do have a good free tier aswell.
I'm likely going to do somekind of a short-form podcast
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about my race that's coming uptomorrow from when I record this
podcast.
I will mention the race nextweek and give you kind of an
overview, but I might do alittle more in-depth, something
for the people on Patreon,unless I get injured during the
race.
But, I mean, even if I getinjured, I don't think I'll
injure my throat so I can'ttalk.
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I've been holding that contentback.
I'm waiting until the film isout so then I can share it and
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Obviously, I will haveinformation about the film when
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for it.
Remember out there, thisweekend is Mother's Day.
If you are lucky enough tostill have your mom in your
life, make sure you call orvisit if you can.
I'm lucky enough.
My mom is still going strong.
I visit typically once a week.
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The older I get, the more Iappreciate having my mother, you
know, as my biggest fan.
Because it can get to a pointthrough daily life that you just
go through the grind and no onecares.
Sometimes it feels like none ofyour accomplishments matter or
you're just kind of shoutinginto the void and nobody
responds.
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So I love getting good news andbeing able to share it with my
mother first because she'salways been my number one fan.
No offense to anyone out therewho's big time into my podcast
and my content because Iappreciate all of you as well.
And the older I get, the more Iappreciate what my mother went
through to help raise us fivekids.
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I mean, for me, she a lot ofthe times had to play the role
of father as well because myfather, well, you know, Was not,
is not, will never be a goodfather.
So happy early Mother's Day toall the mothers out there.
I'll be delivering my Mother'sDay gift on Sunday.
I've had a good track record ofgifts for my mother over the
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last couple of years.
I think this one will be rightup there as well, but she'll be
the judge of that.
It's about time to shut thispodcast down.
I've had a lot of big trucksgoing by my window and there's
been a lot of pausing therecording so that you don't hear
just rumblings of trucks goingby the house.
So before I get out of here,remember, in this life, don't
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walk in anyone else's footsteps.
Create your own path and enjoyevery moment you can on this
journey we call life because younever know what tomorrow
brings.
Thank you again to all of youfor tuning in.
This has been the In MyFootsteps podcast.
I am Christopher Setterlund,but you already knew that.
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And I'll talk to you all againsoon.
Hello, world, and welcome to the In My Footsteps
podcast.
I am Christopher Setterlund,coming to you from the vacation
destination known as Cape Cod,Massachusetts, and this is
episode 194.
May is coming in hot and heavy,and boy, do I have a lot to
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talk about with all you finepeople out there.
We're going to go back to myhigh school days of the 1990s
and discuss the What were thedifferences between grunge
culture and goth culture?
We're going to go way, way backin the day and look at some
food items or food mascots thateither had their own video games
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or were rumored to be havingtheir own video games.
There'll be a brand new topfive that are going to look at
the top five teen idols and teenqueens of the 1960s.
And there'll be a brand newThis Week in History and Time
capsule centered around thediscovery of the Tolland Man.
And if you don't know what thatis, stay tuned.
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It's an incredible, interestingstory.
All of that is coming up rightnow on episode 194 of the In My
Footsteps podcast.
What are we going to talk aboutthis week?
Oh boy, the weather is great.
I'm all caffeined up and hypedfor this week's show.
I will not be opening up a canof an energy drink like I've
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done before for fear of spillingit everywhere.
You'll have to just trust thatI am feeling good.
I hope you're feeling good.
Wherever you are, I hope youare settled in and ready for
about an hour of Gen X nostalgiato bring you back to the good
old days.
I'm super excited because thisis one of those shows where some
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of the things I'm going to talkabout weren't even on my radar
until a few weeks ago when Istarted putting together my
notes for shows going forward.
But we'll get into all thatstuff.
Before we get started, I wantedto take a few moments, starting
off especially to thank myPatreon subscribers, Lori, Mary
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Leo, Marguerite, Neglectoid,Crystal, Matt, all of you, thank
you so much for being mybiggest supporters, my Patreon
backers.
I hope you all have checked outand enjoyed the newest bonus
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Ironically, it includes thestory of my very first road
race.
And it's ironic becausetomorrow from when I'm recording
this podcast is my first racein almost a year.
Last week on the show, Imentioned I would give you a
review of how the race went.
And then I realized justbecause the podcast goes up on a
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Wednesday, I recorded on theFriday before.
So I'm recording this onFriday.
My race is tomorrow.
So there's no review unless Itry to predict the future and
guess how I'll do.
Don't worry, next week there'llactually be a review of the
race, I promise.
Getting back to Patreon for amoment though, coming up in just
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a few weeks is episode 200 ofthe podcast, Listener's Choice.
If you go to Patreon, the firstof the polls for you on Patreon
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We'll get more into thehousekeeping part of the podcast
at the end, as I always say.
I like to give a little intro,but dive right into the meat,
the main buffet.
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And oh, this week we have a funtopic to start off with, one
that I hadn't thought of untilrecently, and then it was a lot
of research to put thistogether.
So we're going to kick offepisode 194, going back 30-ish
years to my high school days, asI try to tell you, or explain
the best I can, what were thedifferences between grunge
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culture and goth culture.
So let's get into that.
I can only speak for me, but Ibelieve that I was chasing my
identity throughout thebeginning of my life.
I don't know you out there whenyou first found something that
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kind of spoke to you as far aswhat you felt you were or where
you belonged.
I've told the story ad nauseumfrom August 1991, being in the
bedroom with my friend MattMedeiros, may he rest in peace,
hearing the first few bars ofNirvana's Smells Like Teen
Spirit.
And it being this awakening.
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Almost like there was lifebefore I heard that song and
life after.
It really made me feel likethat was my group, my tribe,
where I belonged.
It was the summer after 7thgrade heading into 8th grade
when I first heard Nirvana andgrunge music.
I immediately began embracingthe culture beyond the music.
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Mainly the clothing.
Torn jeans, flannel shirts, themore casual shoe vans,
airwalks.
When I got into high school, Inoticed there was another subset
culture that was similar to thegrunge culture, and that was
the goth kids.
The thing was, though, I knew Iwas grunge.
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Grunge music, that was mything.
Being mistaken for this othergroup of people was not what I
wanted.
It dawned on me a couple ofweeks ago, the whole grunge
versus goth discussion, whatmade up each.
Those of you my age, littleolder, little younger, who were
part of the grunge culture orwho were part of the goth
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culture, this is going to speakto you as I kind of do an
overview of both of these setsof people and specifically how
it related to the high schoolexperience.
I started high school in thefall of 1992.
I know, it's awful.
But in the halls of 1990s highschools, identity was
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everything.
Cafeteria tables seemed almostofficially segregated by
cliques.
There were two alternatingcultures that stood out, and
that was grunge and goth.
Both sides wore a heavy dose ofblack culture.
But a closer look revealed theycame from completely different
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worlds, musically,stylistically, and
philosophically.
So let's get into those,starting with the music.
You listeners to the podcastknow my depth of love for
grunge.
Grunge music exploded out ofSeattle in the late 80s, early
90s, led by Nirvana,Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Alice in
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Chains.
It was aggressive, distorted,full of existential angst.
The lyrics to grunge songscentered on alienation,
disillusionment with societalexpectations, depression, a deep
mistrust of fame andcapitalism.
This was the sound of kids whodidn't believe the American
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dream was meant for them.
That may not speak to all of uswho were grunge.
I definitely had lofty dreamsand expectations.
But I was also growing up in ahardworking, middle-class family
on Cape Cod.
It was not Manhattan.
It was not Beverly Hills.
But it also wasn't the ruralareas that don't have
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electricity or Wi-Fi oranything.
It was literally in the middle.
Goth music, on the other hand,had its roots in late 70s and
early 80s post-punk bands likeSuzy and the Banshees, Bauhaus,
The Cure.
It evolved into a moreatmospheric and ethereal
direction with groups like DeadCan Dance, This Mortal Coil.
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Goth music often exploredromanticism, death, mythology,
spirituality, and the beauty insadness.
Grunge was rough andrebellious.
Goth was haunting, poetic, andsometimes otherworldly.
Does that sound like a gooddescription so far of grunge
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versus goth?
Back in the 90s, there weren'tiPods.
There weren't MP3s.
So as far as hearing that musicin the hallways of the high
school, I don't think that wasreally possible because that
would have been the biggestindicator that you were grunge
or goth.
Ooh, listen to that music theygot going on.
So the easiest way to kind ofdetermine where you stood on the
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side of the fence was theclothing.
Flannel versus Victorian decay.
Grunge fashion, I know allabout it.
It was about rejecting fashion.
It was anti-style.
Built from thrift stores, armysurplus shops.
I never went there for myclothes, but the flannel shirts,
ripped jeans, that was all me.
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I never was into the combatboots, baggy sweaters, band
t-shirts, which is ironicbecause I love Nirvana, but I
was kind of like, yeah, I don'twant to promote that because
that's not what grunge is allabout.
Clothing in the grunge style,it was cheap, easy to find, and
most importantly, unpolished.
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It was about dressing like youdidn't care what people thought
because you didn't.
I didn't buy jeans and rip themup and destroy them.
But as they got to that point,they became more and more in
style.
I had pairs of jeans thatlooked like you would have stuck
a grenade in there and itexploded and whatever was left
was what I wore.
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On the other hand, gothfashion, it was deliberate and
theatrical.
Black was the dominant color,but textures mattered.
You know, lace, velvet,leather, mesh.
Makeup was crucial.
Boys and girls both wore heavyeyeliner, pale foundation, dark
lipstick.
Some goths leaned into aVictorian or medieval or even
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fetish look.
They might sport corsets,fishnets, and platform boots.
Others went more minimalistic,spiky hair, torn clothes, and
kind of a do-it-yourself punkpatch.
Even though it was two sideskind of the same coin...
In high school, a grunge kidlike me, I probably looked like
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I rolled out of bed five minutesbefore class started.
Whereas a goth kid might havespent hours perfecting their
look, all to be called a freakby the idiots on the football
team.
What about what we believed,grunge versus goth?
Grunge attitudes were heavilynihilistic, but not necessarily
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intellectual about it.
A lot of, whatever, it's allbullshit anyway.
That kind of attitude, which Idefinitely had.
I think that's also an overallGen X thing.
Apathy was the statement.
Grunge kids tended to mockanything that smelled like
effort.
Pep rallies, school dances,dress codes.
Success was viewed withsuspicion.
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Authenticity mattered more thanachievement.
And again, I'm not saying thisas every single grunge person
had this exact belief system.
But that was kind of theoverarching point to the grunge
culture.
Grunge and goth kind of met upwith that similar attitude,
carrying a strong dose ofdisillusionment.
But goth, the worldwide viewwas more introspective,
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artistic, even spiritual.
Goths didn't necessarily hateschool traditions because they
were stupid.
They hated them because theyfelt meaningless in a cruel and
shallow world.
With goth, there was a tendencytowards existentialism,
romantic fatalism, and afascination with beauty in the
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tragic.
In high school, if you weregrunge, you might have skipped
prom altogether or shown up in aflannel and Doc Martens.
Or goth kids, you might havegone, ironically, dressed as a
vampire, slow dancing under theglittering disco ball with
solemn expressions.
So we've discussed thedifferences between grunge and
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goth.
There is some common groundbetween the two, which is where
I think some of themisunderstandings about the
differences come up.
Despite the differences, bothgoth and grunge kids in high
school were often seen asweirdos by the mainstream, the
preppies or jocks or some of therich families, the rich kids.
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Both cultures rejected therah-rah optimism of 90s pop
culture and the squeaky cleanimages of boy bands and
cheerleaders.
Grunge and goth were both aboutauthenticity over conformity.
But despite that, theyexpressed it in very different
ways.
Whereas grunge was aboutsurviving the real ugly world by
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caring less, goth was aboutfinding or creating beauty in
that ugliness.
In short, grunge people like mewore ripped up jeans because
they couldn't care less, whereasgoth kids wore torn lace
because they cared deeply justabout different things.
So if you were a teenager inthe 90s, whether you wore torn
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jeans and flannel or a velvetcape, it said a lot about how
you process the sadness of theworld around you.
So those of you that werearound back then, which of our
tables would you have sat at?
The grunge table or the gothtable?
And those of you younger, doyou relate to any of these
cultures?
Because like I said, noteverybody who was grunge or goth
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fit every single descriptionthere that I came up with when
researching this topic.
But a lot of them are true forboth.
I think my upbringing in thegrunge culture kind of helps me
now in my late 40s deal withjust the weird and chaotic and
pretty awful times that we livein.
And I think the same goes forgoth.
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Like when you were young,trying to find the beauty in all
the bad.
But there you go.
Kind of an overview look atgrunge culture versus goth
culture.
The main takeaway I have fromthis discussion is the fact that
I started high school 33 yearsago.
I think that's the main thing Icame away with.
It's like, oh man, where didthe time go?
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This week in history, we aregoing back 75 years to May 8th,
1950 and the historic discoveryof the Tolland Man.
In a peat bog near Silkborg,Denmark, two brothers, Vigo and
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Emil Hojgaard, were digging forpeat, which was a common fuel
source in rural areas, when theyunearthed what they first
thought was a recent murdervictim.
The body was so well preservedthat the details of the face,
including stubble on the chin,closed eyes, and a serene
expression appeared almostlifelike.
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Authorities were called in, andsoon it became clear this was
no modern corpse, but a man whohad died over 2,000 years ago
during the Iron Age.
Peat bogs are known for theirability to preserve organic
matter exceptionally well due totheir cold, acidic, and
oxygen-poor environments.
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These conditions halt the usualprocesses of decay, allowing
soft tissue, hair, and evenclothing to survive for
millennia.
The body found in the bog wasnamed the Tollan Man, and he was
found curled in a fetalposition wearing a pointed
sheepskin cap, a hide belt, anda noose made of braided leather
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around his neck.
Scientific analysis at the timerevealed that the man had been
around 40 years old at the timeof his death.
His last meal preserved in hisstomach was a simple porridge
made of barley, flaxseed, andother grains, typical of an Iron
Age diet.
Radiocarbon dating placed hisdeath around 400 BCE, during the
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pre-Roman Iron Age.
Now, one of the mostinteresting aspects of the Talon
Man is the manner of his death.
The noose and the position ofhis body suggest he was hanged,
and many scholars believe thiswas part of a ritual sacrifice
rather than an execution for acrime.
His careful placement in thebog rather than being simply
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discarded indicates that hisdeath held cultural or religious
significance for the people ofthe time.
After his discovery, theTallinn man was carefully
studied and preserved.
His head and face were sostriking that they became iconic
images in history books,museums, and archaeological
texts.
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His body was partiallyreconstructed and put on display
at the Silkboard Museum inDenmark, where he still remains
one of the most visitedexhibits.
The discovery of the Talon Manprovided a rare, humanizing
window into life and death inIron Age Europe, because unlike
pottery shards or weapons, anactual body tells a deeply
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personal story, one thatconnects the modern world with
its ancient roots.
His peaceful expressioncontinues to fascinate both
scholars and the public,reminding us of the enduring
mystery of how and why he died.
The Tallinn Man is more thanjust an archaeological specimen.
He's a symbol of humanity'sdeep past.
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His discovery sparked renewedinterest in bog bodies, the
study of prehistoric Europeancultures.
As scientists continue toanalyze his remains with
ever-advancing technology, newinsights emerge about ancient
diets, health, and socialstructures.
The Tallin' Man stands as aquiet, poignant messenger from a
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forgotten world, reminding usof how much we have yet to learn
about our ancestors and howmuch they still have to teach
us.
And that man, the Tallin' Man,was discovered in a peat bog 75
years ago this week in history.
Speaking of fascinating thingsyou can find in a peat bug, I
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have just discovered a brand newtime capsule where at the same
date, the Tallin' Man has beenfound, May 8th, 1950.
What was going on in the worldof pop culture back then?
Well, let's find out.
The number one song was TheThird Man Theme by Anton Karras.
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Obviously, this song was fromthe movie The Third Man.
Incredibly, the song spent 11weeks at number one.
Anton Karras was a zitherplayer, which is kind of a
stringed instrument that youplayed in your lap.
Despite his fame from the ThirdMan theme, where different
variations of the song have soldmillions of copies, he was
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always seen as a one-hit wonder,and Anton Karras never
considered himself a celebrity.
The number one movie wasCinderella.
And you could get into thetheater with a ticket costing 46
cents.
This is the beloved musicalfantasy, the Disney animated
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film about Cinderella, herwicked stepmother, and two evil
stepsisters that are jealous ofher.
The film was a massive hit inits lifetime in theaters because
it's been re-released a coupleof times.
It's made more than $180million total.
That makes it kind of hard toadjust that for inflation
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because I know Cinderella gotre-released in theaters in the
80s.
The film is also currently 95%fresh on Rotten Tomatoes, so it
has stood the test of time sinceits release 75 years ago.
The number one TV show was theTexaco Star Theater.
This is the very, very earlydays of television television.
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As in 1950, only 9% ofhouseholds in the United States
had a television.
The Texaco Star Theater, it wasa variety show.
It started on the radio in 1938before moving over to
television in 1949.
It was hosted by Milton Berle,and when it crossed over to TV,
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Milton Berle got the nicknameMr.
Television.
At its peak, the Texaco StarTheater got ratings as high as
an 80 share, meaning that 80% ofTVs in the country were tuned
to that show at the same time.
And if you were around backthen, May 8, 1950, maybe you've
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heard about the Texaco StarTheater show, and you want to
get your own TV so you can watchMr.
Television Milton Berle, well,you're in luck.
At Sears and Roebuck, you canget yourself a silver tone
television, black and white,complete with a 12 and a half
inch screen, which is smallerthan the laptop I'm recording
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this podcast on, complete inthis big boxy cabinet.
You could get it for $199.95 orjust over $2,600 when adjusted
for inflation to 2025.
And I know you're curious, whatcould you get for about $2,600
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today when it comes to a TV?
I found an LG OLED C1 TV, smartTV, flat screen, 48 inch
screen, built in with Alexa, AIpowered 4K gaming capabilities.
That's $2,499.
So it's still less than whatthis 12 and a half inch black
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and white screen would have costyou 75 years ago.
That wraps up another timecapsule, another This Week in
History.
We're going to stick to theearly days of television for the
new top five.
So teenagers of the 60s,rejoice.
We're going to look back atsome 1960s teen idols and teen
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queens coming up right now.
Some of the most fun times Ihave when it comes to this
podcast is when I discover atopic I hadn't even thought
about putting on the show.
Because I've said since I beganthis podcast four and a half
years ago, when I started it, Ihad enough material to probably
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do the podcast for four years.
And that was if I did no moreresearch.
Obviously, it has been morethan four years.
I've done a lot of research.
And on last week's show, Italked about some people who
were briefly famous in the1970s.
And this included Leif Garrett,the singer who was considered a
teen idol.
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And that's where I got theidea, oh, I should probably do
segments about teen idols andteen queens from all these
decades, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s,eventually 2000s.
That's what I'm going to dohere.
We are starting off the teenidol craze by looking at the top
five teen idols of the 1960s.
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So just to put it out there,teen idol or teen queen, it's
not necessarily that the peoplewho I'm talking about were
teenagers at the time.
It's more that's the group theyappealed to.
Just in case anyone out therehears some of these names and
then goes to Wikipedia to findtheir ages out and say, wait,
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they were 25 in the 60s.
I'm no fool.
I've done content creation longenough to know that there's
always people that aremicromanaging what you do.
Trust me, I've gotten commentson YouTube posts if I've
accidentally misspoken or hadone bit of info that's wrong.
But before I go on a rant,let's actually get into this top
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five.
As with many of these topfives, they are in no particular
order.
And we've got some honorablementions to kind of whet your
appetite for who did you have onyour wall as posters and such
in the 60s.
Did they have posters on thewall in the 60s?
I don't know.
I wasn't alive back then.
So honorable mentions for teenqueens and idols of the 1960s
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include the Beatles.
because that one was way tooeasy.
I couldn't leave them off.
There was also Elvis Presley,although I would have put him in
a top five for teen idols ofthe 50s, but I couldn't leave
him off the 60s either.
Another honorable mention wasBobby Darin.
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He was more late 50s, early 60swith his songs Mack the Knife,
Dream Lover, and Splish Splash.
Another honorable mention wasis Paul Anka.
He had the hits back then,Puppy Love and Put Your Head on
My Shoulder.
And the final honorable mentionis Bobby V.
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He had 10 top 20 hits,including the number one hit,
Take Good Care of My Baby in1961.
So those were the honorablementions.
Do you remember any or all ofthose?
I mean, Beatles and Elvis arepretty obvious.
They were almost too obviouswhere I was almost tempted to
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leave them off.
And I was like, well, I can'tbecause that's what you think of
with the 60s.
Let's get into the actual topfive, though.
We're going to start it offwith number one, Ricky Nelson.
Ricky Nelson got his start onthe TV show The Adventures of
Ozzie and Harriet, which starredhis parents, Ozzie and Harriet
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Nelson.
Speaker 01 (26:41):
Ricky
Speaker 00 (26:57):
Nelson started his recording career in 1957 at the
age of 17.
Fun fact is that Ricky Nelson'ssong Poor Little Fool was the
first ever number one song onthe Billboard Hot 100 chart when
it was created in 1958.
Between 1957 and 1962, RickyNelson had more top 40 hits than
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anybody besides Elvis Presleyand Pat Boone.
His star slowly faded after thecancellation of The Adventures
of Ozzy and Harriet in 1966 anda few film roles in the late
60s, early 70s.
Number two is Shelley Fabares.
Shelley Fabares was most knownfor her role as Mary Stone on
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the Donna Reed show from 1958 to1963.
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MUSIC
Speaker 00 (28:05):
People closer to my age might remember her from the
TV show Coach, where she playedChristine Armstrong.
The show was on from 1989 to1997.
It starred Craig T.
Nelson.
She received two primetime Emmynominations for her role on
Coach.
So some might say that was thepeak of her fame, was actually
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in the 90s.
But in the early 60s, she wason the Donna Reed show.
She had a number one song,Johnny Angel, in 1962.
She also had some film actingcredits, including as Elvis'
love interest in the film GirlHappy in 1965.
Number three is Anne Margaret.
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Anne Margaret Olsen was kind ofa big pinup girl from the 60s.
I am sure a lot of you outthere that were teenagers in the
60s, teenage boys, had a crushon Anne Margaret Olsen.
Her first film was Pocketful ofMiracles in 1961, and she
received a Golden Globe Awardfor Best New Star.
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Other major movies that AnneMargaret has been in include Bye
Bye Birdie, Viva Las Vegas,Tommy, and for those of us that
are younger, she was the loveinterest in Grumpy Old Men.
Much like pretty much all theseother teen idols and queens of
the 60s, Anne Margaret wassinger and actor.
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Her biggest hit was I JustDon't Understand, which came out
in 1961 and got into the top20.
So she wasn't a major singingstar, but it was a little bonus
on her acting Sunday.
Number four is Frankie Avalon.
Frankie Avalon began as ateenage singer in the late
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1950s.
He had two number one hits,Venus and Why.
Those who grew up in the 1960sprobably know Frankie Avalon
more from those Beach Partyfilms that he was in.
Beach Party films were kind ofa sub-genre of movies, mainly
from about 1963 to 68, and theydealt with exactly what you
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thought.
Teenagers having parties on thebeach and some kind of easily
fixable problems.
It was a lot of singing,dancing, surfing, custom cars,
tons of bonfires on the beach.
The first film in that series,Beach Party, was the name of the
movie.
It was a surprise hit, which iswhy there were so many others
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that came out.
The original Beach Party madeabout $2.3 million on a budget
of $200,000.
So obviously the film creatorscouldn't pass up a chance to
make that kind of easy money.
Now, I was almost tempted toput this next one together with
Frankie Avalon.
Those of you that grew up backthen are probably asking where
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she is.
Well, let's get to number fiveon the list of 1960s teen idols
and queens, and that is AnnetteFunicello.
She was basically partner incrime to Frankie Avalon in all
those Beach Party films.
Annette Funicello got her starton the original Mickey Mouse
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Club.
She would have been one of theteen crushes of the boys in the
1950s.
As with pretty much all theseother teen idols I mentioned,
Annette also had a singingcareer.
She had a pair of top 10singles with Tall Paul and Oh
Dio Mio.
Again though, she is mainlyknown for the Mickey Mouse Club
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and then in the 60s the BeachParty films with Frankie Avalon.
There was even a comeback thatI remember going to see in the
theater with Back to the Beach,which was Frankie and Annette
returning to the beach wherethey first met.
They play husband and wife inthis movie.
It came out in 1987.
It wasn't a major box officehit, but it got good critical
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reviews.
But there you have it.
Top five 1960s teen idols andteen queens.
Those of you that grew up backthen, do you remember all of
them?
Did you spend loads of money togo see their films or buy their
albums?
As I said, in the future, we'llbe doing teen queens and idols
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from other decades.
But I wanted to start with the60s because that seems to be
kind of when it all began.
I don't know if they calledthem that in the 50s.
There's no really good segue togo from 60s teen idols to this
next topic.
So let's just jump into fooditems and mascots that were made
into video games.
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Sometimes as I get closer to200 episodes of the podcast, I
find it interesting the thingsthat I start to research for
topics.
I feel at times it's like I sitback and think about the most
random thing I can, or somethingthat's so specific that there
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can't be an actual segment thatI can mine information from.
So here, as we go way back inthe day, is an example of that.
If I mentioned to you videogames that were based on food
items or food mascots, you'd belike, man, what in the world do
you do with your time to sitaround and think of ideas like
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that?
And after I sat back andthought of my life choices for a
few minutes, I would say, it'sinteresting to me.
And hey, you're listening tothe show, so maybe it's
interesting to you too.
What I wanted to do with thissegment was not only look at the
food item or mascot games thatcame out, but also a few that
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were rumored or had been indevelopment and got cancelled.
Because I'm a big fan of whatmight have been.
So I've got a whole bunch ofvideo games to get into here.
I'm going to try not to rushthrough them all.
Maybe there'll be a part two tothis.
One I can kind of gloss over alittle.
Is the game Yo! Noid?
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This was a game for theNintendo Entertainment System in
1990 based on the Domino'sPizza mascot, the Noid.
If you want more informationabout this game or the Noid
itself, I did a whole segment onthe Noid back in episode 177.
So you can go check that oneout.
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We'll cross that one off thelist.
We can dive a little deeperinto the Cool Spot game.
This came out in 1993 for theSuper Nintendo and Sega Genesis.
Cool Spot was the mascot of7-Up.
So the 7-Up logo is the number7, the word up, and that red dot
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in the middle.
So they decided to turn the reddot into a character and bring
it to life.
Sneakers and sunglasses.
As Cool Spot, you're supposedto collect other red dots and
get enough, finish the levelwithout getting killed.
You're also the size of the reddot, like on the soda can, so
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the rest of the world is bigcompared to you.
This game did really well.
It got great reviews, and itsold more than a million copies.
It just shows the power of thatCool Spot advertising campaign.
In fact, there was a follow-upgame called Spot Goes to
Hollywood that came out in 1995.
When it comes to food itemmascots, the one that has the
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most games, or at least one ofthe most, is Chester Cheetah
from the Cheetos brand of snackchips or puffs or crunches or
whatever the hell you want tocall them now.
Chester Cheetah now is likecomputer animated British voice.
In the 80s, he was a surferdude.
Chester
Speaker 02 (36:03):
Cheetah
Speaker 00 (36:11):
had his first video game in 1992 with Too Cool to
Fool.
And then in 1993, there wasChester Cheetah Wild Wild Quest.
The idea with Too Cool to Foolis Chester Cheetah is trapped in
a zoo and he has ordered abunch of motorcycle parts, but
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the zookeeper got them beforethey were delivered to him.
So that's the quest is to findthese parts and build your
motorcycle so you can escape thezoo.
I mean, I talk about randomthings that I put together for a
segment of the podcast likethis.
Imagine being the people thatcame up with the actual games
that I'm talking about.
A talking cheetah in a zootrying to put together a
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motorcycle.
That is a this is your brain ondrugs line if I've ever heard
one.
There was even rumors aboutthere being a third Chester
Cheetah video game.
Kind of an open world Cheetoskingdom game.
But despite the popularity ofChester Cheetah and Cheetos, the
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games didn't sell well, so thethird game was scrap.
If Chester Cheetah isn't theking of food mascot video games,
then the actual one has to beMcDonald's.
There was a game MC Kids thatcame out in 1992 for the
Nintendo.
Where you travel throughMcDonaldland to help Ronald
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McDonald recover his magic bag.
I never played the game.
I don't know what was in hismagic bag.
I don't know if the kids whohelp him find it would want to
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stick around to know what's init.
There was also a game onlyreleased in Japan for the
Famicom that was called DonaldLand.
This came out in 1988, and it'sa game where you help to rescue
the McDonald Land characters.
In addition to those two, therewas another game, McDonald's
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Treasure Land Adventure, whichcame out for the Sega Genesis in
1993.
This one stars Ronald McDonaldin a colorful fantasy world
finding treasure maps.
It was pretty random and mademore random because the game was
made by Treasure, who was thesame developers that made games
like Gunstar Heroes and Ikaruga.
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These games did well enoughbecause any kid that's grown up
in the last 50 years goes toMcDonald's as a kid.
Granted, over the last 10, 20years, there's been less of an
emphasis on the child-friendlycharacters.
Like, Ronald McDonald has beenphased out a lot.
Back in my day, there was allof those characters, so I could
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see video games based aroundthem being popular.
An interesting example ofStriking While the Iron is Hot
is a game that actually wascancelled, although it was
almost finished.
That was a game called TheCalifornia Raisins The Grape
Escape.
This would have been for theNintendo Entertainment System.
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It was due to be released in1990.
Now, those of you that arearound my age, when you think of
the California raisins, theclaymation ones with the
commercials where they weredancing to Heard It Through the
Grapevine, that is late 1980s,right?
86, 87.
There's only so much of a shelflife of claymation raisins.
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So when they were developingthis game in 1990, where you
play as the raisins...
It was kind of too late.
If they had put this out forthe Nintendo in 1987 or 88, it
might have been popular.
But in 1990, they realized,man, these raisins aren't
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popular enough.
We're going to lose money onthis.
So they ended up scrapping thegame.
For the next one, we go wayback to 1983 and the Atari 2600
with the game Kool-Aid Man.
Graphics were not great for theAtari 2600 compared to now.
Back then when I played it, itwas the coolest thing ever.
But you played as the giant redpitcher of Kool-Aid, busting
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through the walls to save thekids from the thirsties.
Back then in 1983, I wasplaying the Atari.
I don't know if I ever heard ofthis game, or maybe if I saw a
commercial for it and asked mymother and she was like, yeah,
I'll get you something elseinstead.
instead of wasting my money onthis.
Kool-Aid Man must have beensuccessful enough because other
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drink-based games came out,including the game Coca-Cola
Kid, which came out for the GameGear, but it was only released
in Japan in 1994.
Speaker 03 (41:26):
it's
Speaker 00 (41:30):
a very rare obscure game where you play as a radical
kid skateboarding around it isthe quintessential stereotypical
90s attitude those of you thatwere around then If I say 90s
attitude, you can see graphicsand colors and just general
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mannerisms or whatever.
You know what I'm talkingabout.
So a whole video game that justsums it up.
But there was also the gamePepsi Man.
This came out for thePlayStation in 1999.
And you play as Pepsi Man.
Pepsi Man was the Japanesesuperhero version mascot for the
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Pepsi brand.
Think like the Spider-Mancostume, but blue, silver, red,
like the Pepsi logo.
If you've never heard of thePepsi Man game, it's because it
stayed in Japan.
It didn't sell well, and therewere rumors that an American
company was looking to buy therights.
But it was kind of a genericgame, a runner where you're
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running across the screen,avoiding obstacles.
Going back though, McDonald'swasn't the only fast food chain
to have video games based on it.
There were actually severalgames made for Burger King.
There was Sneak King, where youare the Burger King mascot
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trying to deliver burgers topeople.
There was Big Bumpin', whereyou are riding in bumper cars.
And Pocket Bike Racer, whereyou race pocket bikes.
These were all cheaply made.
They all came out kind ofaround the same time, 2006-ish.
And they were for the Xboxseries of consoles.
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Any of you ever play any ofthose Burger King games?
I hadn't even heard of them.
I had to save the best forlast, at least as far as games
that actually came out.
The most random food product tohave a game was Chex cereal.
There was a game called ChexQuest.
This was a PC game that cameout in 1996, and it was very
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much like the video game Doom,where you have to go around and
fight the slimy phlemoids.
This game, I don't know howmuch it cost to make, but it was
actually released in cerealboxes in 1996.
The game has developed a cultfollowing, and there have been
other Chex-themed games, mostlycentered around the Chex mix.
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There were other rumored gamesthat never got past the planning
stages or concept art.
There was a rumored Popeyes theChicken Chain game in the late
90s.
There was a rumored Mr.
Peanut adventure game in theearly 2000s that never came to
be.
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There was an early 90s TacoBell game that was based around
Indiana Jones that they said itgot released for the PC but was
so obscure that you couldn'teven find it even when it was
out.
So those are some of the mostrandom food items and mascots
that were made into video games.
Are there any that you thinkshould have been made?
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I mean, you had Coke, Pepsi,Kool-Aid, 7-Up, Burger King,
McDonald's.
I'm surprised Twinkie the Kiddidn't get a game.
Or maybe all of those oldHostess characters.
It could have been like MarvelAvengers.
Nostalgia is cyclical, though,so there is still time to make a
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Twinkies game.
Come on, Hostess, get on that.
But all that talking about foodand food mascots has got me
hungry.
So before I shut down and gohave lunch, that's going to do
it for episode 194 of the In MyFootsteps podcast.
Thank you all so much fortuning in.
Thank you for making it to theend.
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Thank you so much to all of youwho share this, who tell
others, check out this wacky GenX guy that talks about
nostalgia.
For all the craziness of myhumor, I do try to keep these as
structured as I can so thatwhen you listen, you don't get
to the end and feel like I'veled you out in the woods and
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just left you there.
The fun doesn't end there,though.
Next week is episode 195.
We are going to go to themovies in 1985, where I'm going
to give you every movie thatwent to number one in 1985 and a
little about what theaters werelike.
We're also going to talk aboutanother topic I can't believe it
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took me this long to get into,and that is Transformers, the
toys, the TV show.
Oh, and we're going to havesome useless early internet
features.
Think back to when you firstgot online and some of the stuff
that was there then that youthought was important but ended
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up ultimately becoming uselessand obsolete pretty fast.
So that's next week on episode195.
But like I said at the top ofthe show, go to patreon.com.
The link's in the descriptionof the podcast.
Vote on what you want to see onepisode 200.
It's open for any member onPatreon, paying or free.
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If you want to become a memberon Patreon, $5 a month gets you
access to the bonus podcastepisodes, including the one that
went up last week.
Access to the remasteredWithout a Map livestreams.
I do have a good free tier aswell.
I'm likely going to do somekind of a short-form podcast
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about my race that's coming uptomorrow from when I record this
podcast.
I will mention the race nextweek and give you kind of an
overview, but I might do alittle more in-depth, something
for the people on Patreon,unless I get injured during the
race.
But, I mean, even if I getinjured, I don't think I'll
injure my throat so I can'ttalk.
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Unless there's people runningthe opposite direction and I
just get clotheslined orsomething like that.
If you can't get enough of me,follow me all over social media.
Instagram, Threads, Blue Sky.
Subscribe on my YouTubechannel.
I've got hundreds and hundredsof videos up there.
(48:09):
I'm starting to work on some ofthe content that I got in March
when I was on the movie set.
The film that I did that FrankDurant produced.
I've been holding that contentback.
I'm waiting until the film isout so then I can share it and
it's not any spoilers.
Obviously, I will haveinformation about the film when
(48:30):
it's available to stream becauseI know we have a streaming deal
for it.
Remember out there, thisweekend is Mother's Day.
If you are lucky enough tostill have your mom in your
life, make sure you call orvisit if you can.
I'm lucky enough.
My mom is still going strong.
I visit typically once a week.
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The older I get, the more Iappreciate having my mother, you
know, as my biggest fan.
Because it can get to a pointthrough daily life that you just
go through the grind and no onecares.
Sometimes it feels like none ofyour accomplishments matter or
you're just kind of shoutinginto the void and nobody
responds.
(49:11):
So I love getting good news andbeing able to share it with my
mother first because she'salways been my number one fan.
No offense to anyone out therewho's big time into my podcast
and my content because Iappreciate all of you as well.
And the older I get, the more Iappreciate what my mother went
through to help raise us fivekids.
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I mean, for me, she a lot ofthe times had to play the role
of father as well because myfather, well, you know, Was not,
is not, will never be a goodfather.
So happy early Mother's Day toall the mothers out there.
I'll be delivering my Mother'sDay gift on Sunday.
I've had a good track record ofgifts for my mother over the
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last couple of years.
I think this one will be rightup there as well, but she'll be
the judge of that.
It's about time to shut thispodcast down.
I've had a lot of big trucksgoing by my window and there's
been a lot of pausing therecording so that you don't hear
just rumblings of trucks goingby the house.
So before I get out of here,remember, in this life, don't
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walk in anyone else's footsteps.
Create your own path and enjoyevery moment you can on this
journey we call life because younever know what tomorrow
brings.
Thank you again to all of youfor tuning in.
This has been the In MyFootsteps podcast.
I am Christopher Setterlund,but you already knew that.
(50:37):
And I'll talk to you all againsoon.
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