June 18, 2024 • 49 mins
Jason Derulo is a singer, songwriter, actor and author and is one of the most talented people I've ever had on my show. He has sold more than 250 million singles worldwide, and joins Taylor Swift, Elton John, Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, Britney Spears, Maroon Five, and Christina Aguilera as the only artists in history to have a number one single on US Pop Radio in three different decades. Jason is also one of the top 20 most followed people in the world on social media – he has more than 300 million followers across all platforms. He is also a successful entrepreneur, investor, and author of the awesome book, Sing Your Name Out Loud: 15 Rules for Living Your Dream: The Inspiring Story of Jason Derulo. He also has some of the best advice I have ever heard on the show for people starting their careers and are struggling finding traction.
Here are Jason's 15 Rules for Living Your Dream:
- Take risks. Failure is good.
- Unlock closed doors. But go through the open ones first.
- You are only as good as your routine. Train repetitively for your success.
- Success is for rent. You’ll never pay it off.
- Stop showing off. Invite your audience to the party.
- Obstacles are opportunities. Grab creative blessings in disguise.
- Decide what is important to you. Then connect it to how you spend your time.
- Those who can, do. Those who can’t, become critics.
- Respect the hive. Your copilots are as important as the destination.
- Trust the data. Creativity and analytics go hand in hand.
- Collaborate, period. Choose people you can teach and learn from.
- Reveal yourself in your best light. Ignore what works for everyone else.
- Talent is overrated. Desire is the gift.
- Work hardest at what comes easiest. Go from good to great.
- Choose your competition. And keep pushing that bar higher.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
4:49 - Jason Derulo on Family and Life Perspective after Breaking His Neck
6:03 - Transition from Music to TikTok During the Pandemic
10:40 - Embracing Failures and Importance of Taking Risks
13:30 - Jason Derulo's Book: Message for Dreamers and Importance of Mindset
17:54 - Leaning Into Strengths and Viewing Competition at a Higher Level
20:21 - Work Ethic vs. Working Smarter and Value of Collaboration
24:23 - Extreme Preparation and Las Vegas Residency
27:57 - Business Ventures: Car Wash Industry and Billionaire Goal
36:12 - How Fatherhood and Philanthropy Changed Jason's Life
38:28 - Jason Derulo's Philanthropic Efforts
41:18 - New Projects in Children's Education
42:00 - Fill in the Blank Segment
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Jason Derulo (00:00):
So I encourage you to take chances, take risks,
(00:04):
fall in your face, and embracethose faults, because that is
what takes true bravery. Andthat's what's gonna set you
apart from everybody else.
Randall Kaplan (00:15):
What's your advice to all the people out
there? Who are nervous or fear,trying something new and say,
Gosh, I'm going to make fun ofme if I do this, I shouldn't do
this. How do they get thecourage to go ahead and do it?
Jason Derulo (00:27):
You've heard that story enough times to know that
it's the risks that you take inlife that are rewarded. If you
color within the lines, you'rejust gonna blend in with
everybody else. And nothingextraordinary happens with
blending in.
Randall Kaplan (00:45):
What's your message to everyone out there,
who again, are just afraid toreach out that person is never
going to call me back. I'm nevergonna get the meeting with that
person. Every call
Jason Derulo (00:53):
that you don't make every chance that you don't
take is a missed opportunity.
You're listening
Randall Kaplan (00:58):
to part two of my awesome interview with Jason
Derulo, one of the mostsuccessful singer songwriters in
history. He's sold more than 250million singles worldwide and
has more than 300 millionfollowers on social media. If
you haven't yet listened to partone, be sure to check that one
out first. Now, without furtherado, here's part two of my
awesome interview with Jason.
(01:24):
I think having a medical scareis a big wake up call. I had a
medical scare was 44 years old.
I was in great shape. I go toSoulCycle three days a week
right next to David Beckham. AndI'm trying to compete with David
but I was I was a machine wasn'tfeeling well. Heart attack and
you're wondering, gosh, I gotthe pain can't breathe a call
911 I come in your house. Theyfreak out in the ambulance.
(01:46):
You're looking around, you know,and I'm like, man, you know you
guys can see these guys areworried they're calling in the
time we got 12 minutes 10minutes, eight minutes you get
their whole team waiting for melike er the show they put you on
the gurney, everyone's waiting arush when having a heart attack.
That is not possible. Why? Whyis it possible? So I said,
because I go to SoulCycle threedays a week. And the guy says
(02:10):
I'm the head of cardiologytelling you that you're having a
heart attack. So you're justfreaking out right? I got three
young kids try to call my exwife didn't answer try to call
my mom didn't answer try to calla doctor friend of mine in
Detroit, it didn't answer youwant to if you're gonna die. And
so they get in there and theyrun all these tests. And there's
(02:31):
something in 1% of the casesless than 1%. It presents like
one and if somebody calledmyocarditis, so you're in this
room, they were putting in thestamp. And I said, Am I gonna
die? And I said, No, you're notgonna die. So okay, you know,
tears flowing. And I said, Butthe bad news is just something
(02:54):
called myocarditis, which is aninfection of the heart. And so I
said, Well, what can we do? Theysaid nothing. So some people
die. Some people live. Go to theICU. I'm 44 years old. I'm the
youngest person in there by 30years, you know, everyone around
me dying, and you could seeeverything hooked up. And it was
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one of these wake up moments Ilive in. The weird thing about
this is I used to be a lawyer.
And I was friends with thiswoman, Christina, where she was
two years younger, we go tolunch every day, and I get out
hospital. And my kids went toschool in San Marcos, I chopped
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them off, we'd all have coffee,and some of the parents said we
got to work. And one of the guysin there said on Monday morning,
I'd been out of the hospital forlike four days, something like
that. And he said, Hey, did youhear about Christina said no one
ever said she died last night. Isaid what? How? Said I didn't
(03:54):
know. So I go to a funeral. AndI'm thinking gosh, this could
have been me and I'm looking atthis you got five year old twins
husbands crying It's just amess. And you know, I'm I'm
crying probably more than mostpeople because that literally
could have been me a week beforeand the crazy thing is I later
found out she died inmyocarditis. Wow, that's crazy.
(04:17):
It's crazy. But it was a wake upcall for me and people say you
got to have some kind of scareto change your life around and
my life was crazy at the timeworking 80 hours a week, 90
hours a week I'm here I'm livingmy dream, right? I made money. I
got a great house. The onlything that was missing was
finding an amazing woman tospend my life I did Madison his
(04:39):
best thing that ever happened tome. But how did the wake up call
of you falling and break yourneck affect your life?
Jason Derulo (04:49):
You know, it forced me to to think about
family more. Because when youfeel like you are against the
ropes. Like who? Who is still inyour corner? You know, like, who
(05:11):
is still rooting for you? Like,who can you turn to the people
that are closest to you? Youknow, so I really put things in
perspective for me from a familyperspective. So that was that
was like, my main main mainthing is like I need to be with
my family more I need to, tomake sure that my family, my my
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relationship with my family isthriving, as well as my career
is thriving. So that's stillsomething that I'm striving to
do. Because you know, you can,life is short man, and you can
have all the things that you'veever dreamed of. But what's it
all worth if if yourrelationships are rotten?
Randall Kaplan (06:03):
We'll fast forward a little bit. At some
point, your career wasn't goingthat well. And there was
something online calledmusically, which I think people
forget about which ultimatelybecame tick tock. Tick tock was
considered this online platformfor people to post weird videos
or 12 year old kids posting onthat, that's where it kind of
(06:23):
came up. And that's where thepopularity started. And then the
virality happened. And tell usabout your girlfriend Jen at the
time and you hanging outexperimenting with Tik Tok? What
happened then?
Jason Derulo (06:37):
Yeah, so I was really early on musically. This
guy, I y'all, that was workingat the label that I was with at
the time Warner Brothers. He waslike, get on this app, you know,
we'll do like a promotion withthem. It's their brand new. I
was like, I cool. Kid on thisapp, I do a couple of promotions
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with them. And I start to hearabout it more from my nieces and
nephews, they were looking intothis app. So I, you know, do a
couple of lives on there. Andlike, there's like a real fan
base on there. Then this thingis called musically. And still,
(07:21):
I don't really put any time andenergy into it, because I'm just
so consumed with music, youknow, I'm just not really, I
can't be bothered with socialmedia, honestly. And the
pandemic happens. And I waslike, this is a perfect
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opportunity for me to learn howto social media, because I was
just the worst. Like, I justcouldn't figure it out. I
couldn't do it, you know,everything, musically was
everything in my music career.
Was was was great. And I canwrite a song, and that was my
world. But when it came toconnecting the dots on socials,
(08:05):
I just didn't know how to do it.
So when the pandemic hit, I waslike, I'm going to give myself a
routine. Again, with theroutine. I'm going to post six
times a day and see what makespeople tick. Like what is going
to get people's attention. Andin posting six times a day, as
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you can imagine, like how thehell am I going to figure out
six things to post, I startedposting anything. And it's
through that freedom that I wasable to realize that it didn't
really matter what I wasposting, like it was certain
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things would connect and certainthings wouldn't. So I started to
to learn my audience. I startedto figure them out, you know, I
was doing anything from cookingvideos, to special effects
videos, to dance videos toanything. But when the pandemic
hit, and this thing was calledtick tock, it was only dancing
(09:12):
going on. There was no otherthings going on except dancing
and lip syncing. Those were theonly two things because
musically was a lip syncing act.
Dancing came with tick tock. Iwas posting any and every
fucking thing because I wastrying to figure it out. Cooking
Yeah, anything
Randall Kaplan (09:34):
you can cook?
Not really.
Jason Derulo (09:39):
But I made some pretty amazing desserts, I must
say. But yeah, it's through thatthrough that exploration man. I
was able to just like reallyfigure out social media and it
took some time but I'm I'mpretty sure I I got it. I
remember like people were likejoking about me like being on
(10:02):
this kid's app, like what thehell is Jason roll on doing? You
know, like, he's supposed to belike this big star. And he's
making a fool of himself. Andthen like the, and then I
watched every single otherperson, jump on the app, like it
was the craziest thing to watch.
Randall Kaplan (10:21):
So that's something that we were going to
go to next people were makingfun of you. And what's your
advice to all the people outthere? Who are nervous or fear,
trying something new? And say,Gosh, I'm going to make fun of
me? If I do this, I shouldn't dothis. How did he get the courage
to go ahead and do it?
Jason Derulo (10:40):
Honestly, think that you've heard that story
enough times to know that it'sthe risks that you take in life
that are rewarded. If you colorwithin the lines, you're just
gonna blend in with everybodyelse. And nothing extraordinary
happens with blending in. So Iencourage you to take chances,
(11:05):
take risks, fall in your face,and embrace those faults,
because that is what takes truebravery. And that's what's gonna
set you apart from everybodyelse.
Randall Kaplan (11:18):
I want to talk about some of the things that
make us successful. And one ofthe things is reaching out to
people. I think, same thing,many people are very fearful,
Gosh, I really want to get someadvice. I'm not going to pick up
the phone, you call the head ofstrategic partnerships and Media
Relations at tick tock, and youhad this woman come to your
house? How influential was that?
And what's your message toeveryone out there? Who again,
(11:41):
are just afraid to reach outthat I was personally never
gonna call me back? I'm nevergonna get the meeting with that
person. Yeah,
Jason Derulo (11:50):
I mean, every every call that you don't make
every chance that you don't takeis a missed opportunity. I mean,
I never know what the outcomewas going to be, man, I just go
for shit, you know? And it's,it's done really well, for me,
I, I couple my life into twothings, right. And I think it's
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a beautiful way to live. Likebeing a legend is a very special
thing. And I think a lot ofpeople would want to be a legend
in one way or another atsomething. And I think that
you're either doing things tobuild that legendary status, or
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you're doing something torecover. So your eat so even
when I'm in the gym, right? Solike every single rep, I'm
thinking about, like, like, howcan I how can I reach legendary
status? What would a legend dohere? Like, like, if a camera
crew was watching me right now?
Like, what would this look like?
(13:03):
So either has to be a part ofthat legendary journey, or it
has to be a part of recovery. Soeven so like me having having a
drink, right? I consider thatrecovery from my mind. You know,
me, me going out and letting myhair down. That's recovery. But
when you get to too muchrecovery, then then you know,
(13:24):
you just fallen off the wagon.
But I believe that there needsto be a balance between those
two things.
Randall Kaplan (13:30):
So it sounds like tick tock became as big a
business or bigger business thanyour music business, you learned
a lot of lessons on tick tock,and you wrote this incredible
book, you read the book.
At some point, you wrote thisincredible book. Tell us about
the title of book and what itmeans.
Jason Derulo (13:53):
Um, so you name out loud. I wanted to write this
book because there's a lot ofdreamers out there that are
giving up their dreams for goingto college, or doing something
that their parents think thatthey should be doing or because
somebody told them that theirdream is too lofty or too crazy,
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or they think that they're tooold. So I wanted to write this
book, because in looking at mylife, there were specific things
that I did that I feel like,we're the difference makers, and
there was a specific mindsetthat I had, that I felt like was
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a difference maker for me.
Because when, when when I wasthinking about like, what made
me successful. There was just soso many things, but I think
mindset was the most pivotalthing. So I just want to teach
people How to re configure theirbrain and kind of just think
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like a winner. So I decided towrite this book. And I didn't
know whether anybody would readit. But I was like, I have to do
this because I feel like itwould help a lot of people. And
thankfully, you know, that it'sbeen really successful. And
people come up to me all thetime. And I expect them to say
(15:25):
something about my music, butthen they say something about
the book. And I'm like, Holyshit, this is incredible. And,
yeah, man, you know, I wrote thebook for the right reasons. And
I feel like that's why it'sconnecting. So well.
Randall Kaplan (15:40):
So number one, take risks. Failure is good. How
is failure? Good?
Jason Derulo (15:48):
Failure is good.
Because, like, I think you gotto learn to be comfortable with
falling on your face. It, you'remore unsuccessful than
successful. You know, everyentrepreneur knows that. You're
gonna be way more unsuccessfulat things. And you are to, like,
the success rate is super low.
(16:08):
You know, and even like, withreleasing songs, right, like, I
believe Drake released like, 188songs, and only 30 Something of
those songs are hit songs. Youknow, I've released something
similar, they have releasedaround 200 songs. And I have I
have 22 Platinum songs, right.
So like, most of what you do isnot going to be successful. So I
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think you just need to getcomfortable with, with with
falling on your face. It's agreat thing. I think it's it's
character building, and you justgot to get used to it.
Randall Kaplan (16:47):
Lesson number four is my favorite. Success is
for rent. That's just awesomeline. What does it mean?
Jason Derulo (16:57):
Yeah, it's awesome. But also not so
awesome. Because I think we allhave, we all have to deal with
it. It's kind of like going tothe gym, right? Like, it's the
craziest shit like you, you canall of a sudden get your dream
body, right. But you can lose itin an instant. Right? All you
got to do is stop working outand just stop working at the
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same intensity, start eating badagain, and that body goes away.
The same thing for success. Youknow, the moment you let up the
moment you take your foot offthe gas, somebody can come and
take that away in an instant. Sosuccess is for rent. You don't
you're not just successful andlike, it just stays there. You
have to pay that rent, everysingle every single month.
Randall Kaplan (17:41):
He said also that find what comes easiest to
you and lean into that I thinkwe advice that's counter to what
most people say is hey, tacklethe most difficult problem
first. So which one is right?
Yeah, I'm
Jason Derulo (17:54):
a firm believer in like, do what you know. So for
instance, when I was in, in highschool, and I was, you know, in
these choirs, I noticed that myfalsetto was like a little
better than everybody else'sfalsetto. So I was like, I
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should lean into that. Thatshould be like my my shtick,
that should be my thing. And Ithink it's paid off. You know,
like, I think, like when youit's better to be great at one
thing than to be good at a lotof other things. So if you're
closer to being great at onething, you should probably go
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after that. Also think thatsuccess begets more success. And
when you become successful atone thing, other things just
kind of fall into place.
Randall Kaplan (18:48):
We also talk about knowing who your
competition is there, I thinkall of us look around and say,
Alright, I want to be betterthan that person or that person.
But you, you view it as a wholedifferent level. So how do you
view competition? What's youradvice to help people who want
to be great? How they shouldview competition?
Jason Derulo (19:07):
Yeah, I mean, I try to give this advice all the
time. I mean, even to my likenieces and nephews, because I
think we get so wrapped up inour circles and where we live in
like, the people around us thatwe think that those people are
our competition. But the truthof the matter is, statistically,
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those people are not going to besuccessful. So you got to dream
bigger. You have to be able tothink outside the box and pick
somebody that you're competingwith. That's at the top of their
game. You know, so like, if youplay basketball, don't don't
compete against the kids thatare just cool, because the
chances are, none of those kidsare going to the NFL to the NBA,
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right? So just statistically,it's just not likely, right? So
you need to pick somebody inyour mind. That's going to make
you up your game up to Somebodysent me a you shouldn't be
looking at what how many shots,curry is taken and, and do
exactly the workouts that he'sdoing. You shouldn't be doing
the workouts that that Johnnyfrom down the street is doing
(20:12):
because Johnny is gonna probablylive down the street for the
rest of his life. I know itsounds harsh, but it's the harsh
truth.
Randall Kaplan (20:21):
So I want to talk about ingredients of
success. We're talking aboutwork ethic, which I teach I
coach, I mentor, and I thinkwork ethic is most important
determinant of our success, youshow up to a regular job, I
mean, your job is not as a nontraditional job, most people are
going to work, you show up firstperson, the morning last,
personally, you do that yourwhole career, you're going to be
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very successful, whatever you domake the most important
determinant of our success.
Jason Derulo (20:48):
Ah, I think the harder you work, the better
chances, you have to besuccessful. But I do think that
there's some people that don'twork as hard. And they still
become successful. I thinkthere's something to be said
about people working smarter aswell. Right? So you can take the
long way. And I can take theshort way because I just
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understand things better. And wecan still end up at the same
place at the same time. But youworked way harder than I did. So
I do believe in work ethic. AndI do believe in working hard.
Because you just want to youjust want to have the best
chance possible. But workingsmarter, I think is is even more
important. I
Randall Kaplan (21:32):
think one of the most important determinants of
our success is also the value ofa team talk about collaboration
in this dude wallpaper and yougiving these amazing
opportunities for thesongwriters to get to work with
you.
Jason Derulo (21:45):
Yeah, man, I believe there's talented people
all over the world. And somepeople have just never been
given an opportunity. And a lotof my biggest songs even are
from producers that never had ahit before. And yeah, wallpaper
being one of them. You know,just heard this beat. And it was
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from an unknown producer. But itdidn't need to be from a named
producer. Because if I like whatI'm hearing, then that's all
that I care about. You know, Ijust I don't have to work with
the biggest producer in theworld. For the product to be
good. So I'd go from from talkdirty to marry me. Trumpets,
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John Bailey yawn. That was hisfirst hit as well. I mean,
there's so many of us. I mean,obviously, savage love all of
these producers, they'd neverhad a hit before. And yeah, I
mean, like, I continuously wantto work with people that are
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that are talented, you know,from the top level to the bottom
level, I actually would ratherwork with people that just need
an opportunity.
Randall Kaplan (22:59):
One of the core ingredients of my success, if
not, the core ingredient issomething called extreme
preparation. So I always want tobe the most prepared person in
the room. That means ifsomeone's preparing one hour for
a show, or podcast, I'm doing20, sometimes 30 of that, and I
Jason Derulo (23:16):
could tell the shows, thank you,
Randall Kaplan (23:19):
for sure. How important is extreme preparation
been in your success?
Jason Derulo (23:25):
Man, if people knew how much preparation could
save you in a room, I think alot of people would just work
way harder. People asked me if Iget nervous before I go on
stage. And the answer is no, Idon't. Because I know exactly
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what's going to happen when Iget on out there on stage. It's
not, I'm not guessing. I've donethat show. For hundreds of
hours, my rehearsals are eighthours long. So I know exactly
what I get on the stage. I knowexactly what I'm gonna sound
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like I know exactly what I'mgoing to look like. How can I be
nervous? I've done it so manytimes. And except I just started
my residency in Vegas.
Randall Kaplan (24:23):
Everyone about it where it is how many nights a
week that's promoted here. Yeah,so
Jason Derulo (24:28):
my residency in Vegas just started I just had my
first weekend. It's at Voltaireand the Venetian resort in Las
Vegas. And I wanted to createthis 360 show where the entire
room is the stage, you know,from where the audience sits. So
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the actual stage the entire roomis the stage. Now this is a
totally different kind of show.
You know what I'm saying? Andit's going to be the first of
its kind and I I'm going out anddoing it for the first time. Now
I'm shitting my pants. I'm like,damn, like, I never do this shit
before this is totallydifferent. I actually have no
idea what's gonna happen becausenow we're dealing with the fans
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in the room. You know, there'san element of, there's a whole
nother element that doesn't eveninvolve me. But it ended up
being incredible. I think it'smy favorite show that I've put
together so far, man, and I'mreally excited about it. People
have been through the roof abouthow they how much they enjoyed
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the show. Congrats. Thank you,brother.
Randall Kaplan (25:39):
I'm gonna go please do man. I'll buy get some
good tickets. Absolutely. I gotto what one of the things that
every famous person issuccessful person I know. And
we've talked about famous, I'mtalking about online social
media has haters. Right. There'sa negative respondent bias that
people have as well, a bitch andthey moan. And there are
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sometimes not as easy or happyto say positive comments. So
you've had a lot of hatersonline, but you say, not all
this is bad. Some of the hatershave actually helped you change
your music. So what what's yourview on the haters? And then
how, especially after your firstalbum, that the one of the
(26:22):
haters or some of the hatersactually helped you? Yeah.
Jason Derulo (26:26):
So social media is can be social media can be a
really, really tough place. Andit's definitely not for the
faint of heart, especially whenyou start to have success. When
you're on the come up, it feelslike people are way more
amenable, and way more. They'remore, they're root for you more.
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And as you the bigger you get,the more hate that comes. And I
think you should embrace thecomments, you know, and, and
learn from some stuff. You know,I remember when I put out the
first album, and you know, whatyou say had, you know, all this
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auto tune on it, right? Andlike, people were like, Oh, he
can't sing. It's like, auto tuneon it. So like the next project,
I was like, Oh, shit, like,maybe I shouldn't be putting on
his auto tune. Like, maybe Ineed to, like, show my voice,
you know what I'm sayin? Andwithout those those words,
without, you know, thosecomments that, you know, felt
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hurtful at the time. I probably,you know, would have done the
same thing again, you know, andnot not knowing that people
wanted to hear something totallydifferent. So I embrace all
comments. You know, if, if, if,I mean, obviously, certain
comments are just like you throwaway, but you might find some
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some gold within, within a meancomment. So
Randall Kaplan (27:58):
lots of celebrities. Well, we'll switch
gears. I want to talk aboutbusiness. Now. You've been a
very successful businessman.
investor, you found a greatpartner in a collab, I want I
want to talk about, tell usabout the car wash business. And
is your shirt really worth $2billion?
Jason Derulo (28:13):
Yes. So the company is worth $2 billion. Not
my share.
Randall Kaplan (28:17):
But you're doing okay. I'm doing great.
Jason Derulo (28:20):
There's only three of us in within the company. So
that's myself, Danny white, andChris Erickson. So
Randall Kaplan (28:26):
VC funding or no VC funding? No, it's all self.
That'll work. 2 billion dividedby three. Yeah, man. Yeah,
that's a good one. Yeah,
Jason Derulo (28:34):
it's it's really a special, special company. And
you know that, like I said, calljust to tell people what's
called the model. It's calledRocket carwash. And the model
is, you know, obviously, it's,it's when you go to a carwash,
usually, you know, you pay foryour carwash, you go home, and
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then you wait for your car to bedirty, and you come back again,
when it's filthy. With thismodel, you pay a membership, and
you can wash your car. Anytime,you know, whether you feel like
you got one little scratch orone little, little bird due to
join your car, you can just goand get that cleaned up, you
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know, the next day and not haveto pay anything extra. I mean,
it's really, really a value add.
Right. And, yeah, it's that themembership model, I think is the
best model. And I think thateverybody is moving towards the
membership model, not in justcar washes and not just
streaming services. Buteverywhere. Everybody is trying
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to move towards the membershipmodel because it's fixed income.
And when people are looking tobuy large companies, it's way
it's way better to buy somethingthat you know exactly how much
that company is making. And itIt's fixed. You don't have to
worry is it gonna go up? It'sgonna go down? No, for the last
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three years, it's been this, youknow, people have a membership.
It doesn't doesn't waver verymuch, right?
Randall Kaplan (30:12):
We love investing in these unsexy
businesses, people already lovetechnology. And the margins are
so great while the carwashindustry is $28 billion, your
globally it's grown athistorical growth rate of 3.1%
people wash their cars. So theydo
Jason Derulo (30:27):
even in the pandemic. You know, it's like,
like, how are we still thinkingabout washing our cars
independent? Cars are people'sprized possession. Right? It's
like, this is like the one thingthat I like, really, really care
about, it's like, it's a, it's asymbol of me. And that's how a
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lot of people think,
Randall Kaplan (30:48):
or, but as you said, you want to be a
billionaire. What's why,
Jason Derulo (30:52):
um, I want to be able to there's not a lot of
black billionaires in America.
And I think the the billionairesthat we do have, most of which
are our entertainers and madetheir money doing that I really
want to make the majority of, ofmy money doing something totally
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different. And I want to show adifferent path. I think it's
important for me, but I thinkit's important from the
community that that I come frombeing in the community in Miami,
but also the community in Haitiand show that no matter where
you're from, you can have a hugeimpact on the world. And not
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just music and not just sports.
But there's other things that wecan do as well, to be
successful. So
Randall Kaplan (31:48):
when you were trying to meet people and get
mentors, you wrote to a bunch ofblack billionaires, and you were
asking for five words ofencouragement. And nobody
responded. So are you going torespond to people asking you for
five words of encouragement? Howdo they get a hold of you? And
what are 10 words ofencouragement that
Jason Derulo (32:09):
responded to be fair, but that Tyler Perry
responded, okay,
Randall Kaplan (32:14):
so one out of how many, like seven? That's not
a good response rate.
Jason Derulo (32:21):
That's not a good response rate.
Randall Kaplan (32:23):
So when what how are people gonna get a hold of
you? Not that you got 300million fans or followers around
the world? But what, what kindof advice do you have for a
young black man who wants amentor, and for you to give them
10 words of encouragement thatyou were looking for when you
were younger? So
Jason Derulo (32:42):
already, I'd put my money where my mouth is. So
the top people within my, mycircle, are, are African
American as well. So I alreadyyou know, doing that, right. And
I just think I want to givepeople opportunities that
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wouldn't normally getopportunities. And when I walked
in here, and you talked aboutthe internship program that you
have here, I think it's abeautiful thing, because I come
from the same model, and I dothe same thing. And it's all
about giving people that youthink, want it bad enough, an
opportunity, because all ittakes is an opportunity. Like
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today when I was playingbasketball today, right? It was
five in the morning. I camelate, they were already past the
first quarter. And I came in Ishot to Air Boss five in the
morning. Yeah, five in themorning is fucked up to air boss
Randall Kaplan (33:42):
who was playing the five in the morning. First
of all, so it's
Jason Derulo (33:45):
a really competitive game that I play
here is like, all like formerHooper's, like either from from
the polls or, or like thatplayed in college, you know,
like, they're, they're, youknow, they're good. They're
good, great, but but people sowe play before the
crowd comes. Okay, so I'm reallyearly. So I come in excited.
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It's been a while since I playedto wearables.
But I didn't get a chance towarm up so the whole room is
like, ah, take him out. Like heprobably needs to come up. Then
I got an easy lay in sometimesyou just need to see go in one
time. And one of the guys on theteam. He just kept feeding me
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the ball like he kept giving methe opportunity. Even though it
wasn't looking good. He justgave me the opportunity. The
game winning shot. At thispoint, I'm I'm like, one for
five. Not my best game. Two forfive, two. A game winning shot,
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the guy that's been carryingthis on his back has a shot that
he can take, instead of takingthat shot. He gave me the
opportunity. I'm like way back.
But I'm wide open, leaving meopen at this point. You gave me
the opportunity.
I felt so good coming off. Rollsaround rim. Boom, boom head. But
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all they needed was theopportunity. I needed someone to
believe in me. You
Randall Kaplan (35:36):
also want the ball in your hands to win the
game? Absolutely. I think everysuccessful person i Every
successful person wants a ballin their hands to control the
outcome.
Jason Derulo (35:45):
Absolutely. And if you can help change somebody's
life, man, I mean, I thinkthat's the greatest reward.
Randall Kaplan (35:54):
At some point, you're in Omaha, Nebraska at a
restaurant, you gave a waitressa $5,000 tip? How important are
acts of service for you? Whenyou think about your legacy?
What do you mean by acts ofservice? And is that what
motivates you these days?
Jason Derulo (36:12):
I'm almost shocked sometimes by people's service,
because I think of myself andwhat I would, what I would do if
I was a waiter, or like who likewho I would be if I was a
waiter, and how I would treatpeople. So living in Los
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Angeles, and being from Miami,I'm used to a certain level of
service, which is very, verylow.
Randall Kaplan (36:41):
But you're famous, you probably get good
service most of the time.
Jason Derulo (36:44):
Yes, but you'd be surprised still, you'd be
surprised. And every time I getgreat service, I think about
hiring that person. Because it'sso few and far between to
receive exceptional service.
Like good service is cool, butexceptional service is rare. And
in Omaha, man you getexceptional service is kind of
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the norm. And I hadn't been inOmaha for a while. And like
going there, I was just sorefreshed by the service there.
I was just like, I need to blessthis person because I want them
to understand how much Iappreciate what they did today.
So I gave him $5,000
Randall Kaplan (37:29):
How pay for that person's College? Did you know
that? Yeah,
Jason Derulo (37:33):
I saw a post that they did afterwards.
Randall Kaplan (37:36):
Must feel pretty good. That was a beautiful
thing. Absolutely. So youbrought your three year old son
Jason, but
Jason Derulo (37:41):
he wasn't he wasn't happy when I asked for
the $5,000. But
Randall Kaplan (37:46):
no, I think he the MTU Okay, $5,000 more I
gotta pay for next year. So youbrought your that is my life, by
the way? Well, that's whathappened, by the way when you
become wealthy. And I had asimilar situation that you
talked about before making a lotof money and lots of people come
after you and you know, ask forthings and some of its
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appropriate family familymembers, but a lot of it's not
and puts a lot ofresponsibility, a lot of
pressure on you as well.
Definitely not not fun. Butlet's talk about fun and life
changing. You brought yourreally cute three year old son
here, Jason King, how has been afather changed your life and
change your entire outlook onlife.
Jason Derulo (38:28):
Man has been extraordinary. I have recently
been seeing on social media.
People have been doing a postsaying like, I don't have any
kids and I'm living, I'm livingthe best my best life. And
there's no like you shouldn'tfrown on people that don't have
kids. I don't frown on peoplethat don't have kids. But I
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think that they're missing outon feeling what real love is,
and learning what real love is.
Because my relationship with myparents has even changed from
having a son. Because I'llunderstand love in a totally
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different way than I ever have.
And everybody won't get theopportunity to have kids. But I
I would implore people to, to ifit's right for your life, to try
it because it's really reallytransformed my life in a way
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that I mean even words can'tdescribe
Randall Kaplan (39:45):
one of the grave honor statements that someone
told me one of my best friendsRick Rivera, who had four kids
when I when I met him they werevery young 432 and one was
you'll understand the meaning oflife when you have kids and I
got five kids, as we talkedabout before the show my message
to four year old and herbirthday is tomorrow and my
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daughter, Bianca, I have twingirls, one graduated Wisconsin
two weekends ago, my daughtergraduated Cornell this past
weekend. And all the parents hadto get up there. You know, she
has a house with 10 Girls,they've been best friends
forever. And then they had alittle party with a food truck
with all the parents and friendsand all the 10 Dads had to get
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up and say something about theirkids. And I went, I went last.
And as I was talking about mykids, like I do, I cried like a
baby. And it's just like such a.
And, you know, I'm a crier.
Whenever I talk about my kids,it's, it's, you know, they've
seen it in here a few times aswell. But it's so emotional. And
and my advice to you on this,I'm sure you have it is just
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take every single moment withyour son that you possibly can,
no matter how busy you are. AndI know for sure he's he's here
today. Couple more things. Ijust want to talk about his
philanthropy. You had afoundation that helped people in
Haiti for a while you've donethings like the Make a Wish
Foundation. What are you doingnow? And you feel a tremendous
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responsibility, not only withyour money over these 300
million followers to have animpact on massive amounts of
people?
Jason Derulo (41:19):
Yeah, so my new goal is within interested in are
we talking about kids, becausemy new philanthropic goal is to
help really young kids learn.
And I'm developing a TV show,not for profit TV show that'll
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help kids learn through song.
And that's been like the bigproject, you know, for the last
year, as well as doingchildren's books. So so, you
know, in the nonprofit sector,
Randall Kaplan (42:00):
I always have a show with something I called,
fill in the blank to. Excellent.
So we're going through one byone question. So here we go. The
biggest lesson I've learned inmy life is
how is it supposed to be onesentence, it can be whatever you
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want. The biggest lesson I'velearned in my life is
Jason Derulo (42:29):
the biggest lesson I learned in my life is that
success is rented. It's neverowned, I'm sorry, that it's one
that we talked about today.
Randall Kaplan (42:43):
That's one of my favorite ones. And all the
research I did on you, I'm gonnaI'm gonna think about that one
for a long time.
Jason Derulo (42:49):
It's really poignant. And I think once once
people have reached a point intheir life, I think it's
important information for them.
Randall Kaplan (42:58):
Number one personal goal is
Jason Derulo (43:00):
my number one personal goal is to be the best
role model for my son. Numberone professional goal is my
number one professional goal isto
my number one professional goalis to make sure that I'm having
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fun and every is making sure I'mhaving fun on the journey. I
think I get so caught up in thedollars and cents sometimes that
it stops being fun. And again, Italk about life being short, and
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I don't want to do things thatwill bog down my life. And a lot
of times people will meet me,they'd be like, you're just such
a happy guy, like you're sohappy. I think that's really
important to protect your peaceand protect your happiness. So
it's not all about dollars andcents for me.
Randall Kaplan (44:02):
The craziest thing that happened in my career
is
Jason Derulo (44:08):
the craziest thing that happened in my career is
when I was finally able to getout of the deal. My first record
deal I had been trying to getout of it for years and ended up
having to like threaten them andalso pay my way out and then I
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was able to get out. I thoughtthe whole world would be my
oyster and I thought that everylevel would be clamoring to have
me I had sold 200 millionrecords at that point. And I
went out into the circuit and Idid not receive the the red
carpet like I thought that Iwould. So I decided to go
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independent and released savagelove as an independent artist as
well as take you down As anindependent artist, and I didn't
know what to expect, but I tooka chance. And as you can
imagine, after the release ofthose songs, all those same
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people that said, No, we'reclamoring for for a situation.
But I took a chance on myself.
Amazing.
Randall Kaplan (45:21):
The funniest thing that's happened in my
career is funniest
Jason Derulo (45:23):
thing that's happened in my career was I was
performing at Wembley Stadium.
Early, very early on in mycareer, it was my first time,
first or second time performingat Wembley Stadium. So legendary
venue, obviously, and it waslike the summer time jam thing
was hot as hell, and had thisleather jacket on. And I was
trying to take the jacket off,it was hot, I was sweating, and
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couldn't get it off, like theleather was sticking to my skin.
And I'm like, looking over toone of the dancers like, hey,
like, Help me take the shirtoff. And she's just in her own
worlds, dancing. And she wasgoing hard. And she finally
notices me. And as she's like,trying to take it off, like she
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gets the arm off. And then themic is in his hand and the mic
drops on the floor. And I waslike, damn it in front of 80,000
people. So that was like thefunniest moment.
Randall Kaplan (46:28):
But one thing I've dreamt about doing for a
long time, but haven't is.
Jason Derulo (46:38):
Oh, no, I have one of those. Yeah, I can't think of
anything.
Randall Kaplan (46:46):
The one person in the music business that I
haven't met, but I would like tois awesome. Don't have one of
those. You don't have one of us.
If I could go back and say onething to my 21 year old self,
what would it be?
Jason Derulo (47:02):
I would say be yourself. When I was 21 years
old, I was trying to find myselfwithin other people. And I was
trying to find success bylooking at other people's
success and trying to mirrorwhat they were doing. And I
didn't understand that I couldjust be myself and be in my own
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skin. Especially in that timeperiod of my life. I felt like I
was trying to emulate otherpeople's success. So I would
tell myself, just do your ownthing. My
Randall Kaplan (47:37):
biggest regret in life is
Jason Derulo (47:43):
my biggest regret in life Zion come on the show
sooner
Randall Kaplan (47:50):
than I could cry for a moment here.
Jason Derulo (47:54):
This has been fantastic man. I think you know,
someone doing a lot ofinterviews. I've talked to a lot
of people across the world. Butyou've like really dug deep and
you did your homework and like,you know this shit like the back
of your head to thank you forit.
Randall Kaplan (48:08):
I appreciate you. La Pacino. I want to thank
him for setting us up. You knowso many people you meet in your
life help you in a seminalmoment having you on my show is
huge for me. So I appreciate it.
I've had a lot of guests likeMike Tyson and Mark Cuban but
super pumped to have you on myshow. I'm grateful for you being
here. I know you had a very longday and you got along with a
couple of shows. So thank youhope we can get to know each
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other. Yeah. You're anincredible guy. Congratulations
on all your success. And again,thanks for being here.
Jason Derulo (48:38):
Thanks, Ron.
Appreciate you
So I encourage you to take chances, take risks,
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fall in your face, and embracethose faults, because that is
what takes true bravery. Andthat's what's gonna set you
apart from everybody else.
Randall Kaplan (00:15):
What's your advice to all the people out
there? Who are nervous or fear,trying something new and say,
Gosh, I'm going to make fun ofme if I do this, I shouldn't do
this. How do they get thecourage to go ahead and do it?
Jason Derulo (00:27):
You've heard that story enough times to know that
it's the risks that you take inlife that are rewarded. If you
color within the lines, you'rejust gonna blend in with
everybody else. And nothingextraordinary happens with
blending in.
Randall Kaplan (00:45):
What's your message to everyone out there,
who again, are just afraid toreach out that person is never
going to call me back. I'm nevergonna get the meeting with that
person. Every call
Jason Derulo (00:53):
that you don't make every chance that you don't
take is a missed opportunity.
You're listening
Randall Kaplan (00:58):
to part two of my awesome interview with Jason
Derulo, one of the mostsuccessful singer songwriters in
history. He's sold more than 250million singles worldwide and
has more than 300 millionfollowers on social media. If
you haven't yet listened to partone, be sure to check that one
out first. Now, without furtherado, here's part two of my
awesome interview with Jason.
(01:24):
I think having a medical scareis a big wake up call. I had a
medical scare was 44 years old.
I was in great shape. I go toSoulCycle three days a week
right next to David Beckham. AndI'm trying to compete with David
but I was I was a machine wasn'tfeeling well. Heart attack and
you're wondering, gosh, I gotthe pain can't breathe a call
911 I come in your house. Theyfreak out in the ambulance.
(01:46):
You're looking around, you know,and I'm like, man, you know you
guys can see these guys areworried they're calling in the
time we got 12 minutes 10minutes, eight minutes you get
their whole team waiting for melike er the show they put you on
the gurney, everyone's waiting arush when having a heart attack.
That is not possible. Why? Whyis it possible? So I said,
because I go to SoulCycle threedays a week. And the guy says
(02:10):
I'm the head of cardiologytelling you that you're having a
heart attack. So you're justfreaking out right? I got three
young kids try to call my exwife didn't answer try to call
my mom didn't answer try to calla doctor friend of mine in
Detroit, it didn't answer youwant to if you're gonna die. And
so they get in there and theyrun all these tests. And there's
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something in 1% of the casesless than 1%. It presents like
one and if somebody calledmyocarditis, so you're in this
room, they were putting in thestamp. And I said, Am I gonna
die? And I said, No, you're notgonna die. So okay, you know,
tears flowing. And I said, Butthe bad news is just something
(02:54):
called myocarditis, which is aninfection of the heart. And so I
said, Well, what can we do? Theysaid nothing. So some people
die. Some people live. Go to theICU. I'm 44 years old. I'm the
youngest person in there by 30years, you know, everyone around
me dying, and you could seeeverything hooked up. And it was
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one of these wake up moments Ilive in. The weird thing about
this is I used to be a lawyer.
And I was friends with thiswoman, Christina, where she was
two years younger, we go tolunch every day, and I get out
hospital. And my kids went toschool in San Marcos, I chopped
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them off, we'd all have coffee,and some of the parents said we
got to work. And one of the guysin there said on Monday morning,
I'd been out of the hospital forlike four days, something like
that. And he said, Hey, did youhear about Christina said no one
ever said she died last night. Isaid what? How? Said I didn't
(03:54):
know. So I go to a funeral. AndI'm thinking gosh, this could
have been me and I'm looking atthis you got five year old twins
husbands crying It's just amess. And you know, I'm I'm
crying probably more than mostpeople because that literally
could have been me a week beforeand the crazy thing is I later
found out she died inmyocarditis. Wow, that's crazy.
(04:17):
It's crazy. But it was a wake upcall for me and people say you
got to have some kind of scareto change your life around and
my life was crazy at the timeworking 80 hours a week, 90
hours a week I'm here I'm livingmy dream, right? I made money. I
got a great house. The onlything that was missing was
finding an amazing woman tospend my life I did Madison his
(04:39):
best thing that ever happened tome. But how did the wake up call
of you falling and break yourneck affect your life?
Jason Derulo (04:49):
You know, it forced me to to think about
family more. Because when youfeel like you are against the
ropes. Like who? Who is still inyour corner? You know, like, who
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is still rooting for you? Like,who can you turn to the people
that are closest to you? Youknow, so I really put things in
perspective for me from a familyperspective. So that was that
was like, my main main mainthing is like I need to be with
my family more I need to, tomake sure that my family, my my
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relationship with my family isthriving, as well as my career
is thriving. So that's stillsomething that I'm striving to
do. Because you know, you can,life is short man, and you can
have all the things that you'veever dreamed of. But what's it
all worth if if yourrelationships are rotten?
Randall Kaplan (06:03):
We'll fast forward a little bit. At some
point, your career wasn't goingthat well. And there was
something online calledmusically, which I think people
forget about which ultimatelybecame tick tock. Tick tock was
considered this online platformfor people to post weird videos
or 12 year old kids posting onthat, that's where it kind of
(06:23):
came up. And that's where thepopularity started. And then the
virality happened. And tell usabout your girlfriend Jen at the
time and you hanging outexperimenting with Tik Tok? What
happened then?
Jason Derulo (06:37):
Yeah, so I was really early on musically. This
guy, I y'all, that was workingat the label that I was with at
the time Warner Brothers. He waslike, get on this app, you know,
we'll do like a promotion withthem. It's their brand new. I
was like, I cool. Kid on thisapp, I do a couple of promotions
(06:58):
with them. And I start to hearabout it more from my nieces and
nephews, they were looking intothis app. So I, you know, do a
couple of lives on there. Andlike, there's like a real fan
base on there. Then this thingis called musically. And still,
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I don't really put any time andenergy into it, because I'm just
so consumed with music, youknow, I'm just not really, I
can't be bothered with socialmedia, honestly. And the
pandemic happens. And I waslike, this is a perfect
(07:41):
opportunity for me to learn howto social media, because I was
just the worst. Like, I justcouldn't figure it out. I
couldn't do it, you know,everything, musically was
everything in my music career.
Was was was great. And I canwrite a song, and that was my
world. But when it came toconnecting the dots on socials,
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I just didn't know how to do it.
So when the pandemic hit, I waslike, I'm going to give myself a
routine. Again, with theroutine. I'm going to post six
times a day and see what makespeople tick. Like what is going
to get people's attention. Andin posting six times a day, as
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you can imagine, like how thehell am I going to figure out
six things to post, I startedposting anything. And it's
through that freedom that I wasable to realize that it didn't
really matter what I wasposting, like it was certain
(08:49):
things would connect and certainthings wouldn't. So I started to
to learn my audience. I startedto figure them out, you know, I
was doing anything from cookingvideos, to special effects
videos, to dance videos toanything. But when the pandemic
hit, and this thing was calledtick tock, it was only dancing
(09:12):
going on. There was no otherthings going on except dancing
and lip syncing. Those were theonly two things because
musically was a lip syncing act.
Dancing came with tick tock. Iwas posting any and every
fucking thing because I wastrying to figure it out. Cooking
Yeah, anything
Randall Kaplan (09:34):
you can cook?
Not really.
Jason Derulo (09:39):
But I made some pretty amazing desserts, I must
say. But yeah, it's through thatthrough that exploration man. I
was able to just like reallyfigure out social media and it
took some time but I'm I'mpretty sure I I got it. I
remember like people were likejoking about me like being on
(10:02):
this kid's app, like what thehell is Jason roll on doing? You
know, like, he's supposed to belike this big star. And he's
making a fool of himself. Andthen like the, and then I
watched every single otherperson, jump on the app, like it
was the craziest thing to watch.
Randall Kaplan (10:21):
So that's something that we were going to
go to next people were makingfun of you. And what's your
advice to all the people outthere? Who are nervous or fear,
trying something new? And say,Gosh, I'm going to make fun of
me? If I do this, I shouldn't dothis. How did he get the courage
to go ahead and do it?
Jason Derulo (10:40):
Honestly, think that you've heard that story
enough times to know that it'sthe risks that you take in life
that are rewarded. If you colorwithin the lines, you're just
gonna blend in with everybodyelse. And nothing extraordinary
happens with blending in. So Iencourage you to take chances,
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take risks, fall in your face,and embrace those faults,
because that is what takes truebravery. And that's what's gonna
set you apart from everybodyelse.
Randall Kaplan (11:18):
I want to talk about some of the things that
make us successful. And one ofthe things is reaching out to
people. I think, same thing,many people are very fearful,
Gosh, I really want to get someadvice. I'm not going to pick up
the phone, you call the head ofstrategic partnerships and Media
Relations at tick tock, and youhad this woman come to your
house? How influential was that?
And what's your message toeveryone out there? Who again,
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are just afraid to reach outthat I was personally never
gonna call me back? I'm nevergonna get the meeting with that
person. Yeah,
Jason Derulo (11:50):
I mean, every every call that you don't make
every chance that you don't takeis a missed opportunity. I mean,
I never know what the outcomewas going to be, man, I just go
for shit, you know? And it's,it's done really well, for me,
I, I couple my life into twothings, right. And I think it's
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a beautiful way to live. Likebeing a legend is a very special
thing. And I think a lot ofpeople would want to be a legend
in one way or another atsomething. And I think that
you're either doing things tobuild that legendary status, or
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you're doing something torecover. So your eat so even
when I'm in the gym, right? Solike every single rep, I'm
thinking about, like, like, howcan I how can I reach legendary
status? What would a legend dohere? Like, like, if a camera
crew was watching me right now?
Like, what would this look like?
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So either has to be a part ofthat legendary journey, or it
has to be a part of recovery. Soeven so like me having having a
drink, right? I consider thatrecovery from my mind. You know,
me, me going out and letting myhair down. That's recovery. But
when you get to too muchrecovery, then then you know,
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you just fallen off the wagon.
But I believe that there needsto be a balance between those
two things.
Randall Kaplan (13:30):
So it sounds like tick tock became as big a
business or bigger business thanyour music business, you learned
a lot of lessons on tick tock,and you wrote this incredible
book, you read the book.
At some point, you wrote thisincredible book. Tell us about
the title of book and what itmeans.
Jason Derulo (13:53):
Um, so you name out loud. I wanted to write this
book because there's a lot ofdreamers out there that are
giving up their dreams for goingto college, or doing something
that their parents think thatthey should be doing or because
somebody told them that theirdream is too lofty or too crazy,
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or they think that they're tooold. So I wanted to write this
book, because in looking at mylife, there were specific things
that I did that I feel like,we're the difference makers, and
there was a specific mindsetthat I had, that I felt like was
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a difference maker for me.
Because when, when when I wasthinking about like, what made
me successful. There was just soso many things, but I think
mindset was the most pivotalthing. So I just want to teach
people How to re configure theirbrain and kind of just think
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like a winner. So I decided towrite this book. And I didn't
know whether anybody would readit. But I was like, I have to do
this because I feel like itwould help a lot of people. And
thankfully, you know, that it'sbeen really successful. And
people come up to me all thetime. And I expect them to say
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something about my music, butthen they say something about
the book. And I'm like, Holyshit, this is incredible. And,
yeah, man, you know, I wrote thebook for the right reasons. And
I feel like that's why it'sconnecting. So well.
Randall Kaplan (15:40):
So number one, take risks. Failure is good. How
is failure? Good?
Jason Derulo (15:48):
Failure is good.
Because, like, I think you gotto learn to be comfortable with
falling on your face. It, you'remore unsuccessful than
successful. You know, everyentrepreneur knows that. You're
gonna be way more unsuccessfulat things. And you are to, like,
the success rate is super low.
(16:08):
You know, and even like, withreleasing songs, right, like, I
believe Drake released like, 188songs, and only 30 Something of
those songs are hit songs. Youknow, I've released something
similar, they have releasedaround 200 songs. And I have I
have 22 Platinum songs, right.
So like, most of what you do isnot going to be successful. So I
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think you just need to getcomfortable with, with with
falling on your face. It's agreat thing. I think it's it's
character building, and you justgot to get used to it.
Randall Kaplan (16:47):
Lesson number four is my favorite. Success is
for rent. That's just awesomeline. What does it mean?
Jason Derulo (16:57):
Yeah, it's awesome. But also not so
awesome. Because I think we allhave, we all have to deal with
it. It's kind of like going tothe gym, right? Like, it's the
craziest shit like you, you canall of a sudden get your dream
body, right. But you can lose itin an instant. Right? All you
got to do is stop working outand just stop working at the
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same intensity, start eating badagain, and that body goes away.
The same thing for success. Youknow, the moment you let up the
moment you take your foot offthe gas, somebody can come and
take that away in an instant. Sosuccess is for rent. You don't
you're not just successful andlike, it just stays there. You
have to pay that rent, everysingle every single month.
Randall Kaplan (17:41):
He said also that find what comes easiest to
you and lean into that I thinkwe advice that's counter to what
most people say is hey, tacklethe most difficult problem
first. So which one is right?
Yeah, I'm
Jason Derulo (17:54):
a firm believer in like, do what you know. So for
instance, when I was in, in highschool, and I was, you know, in
these choirs, I noticed that myfalsetto was like a little
better than everybody else'sfalsetto. So I was like, I
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should lean into that. Thatshould be like my my shtick,
that should be my thing. And Ithink it's paid off. You know,
like, I think, like when youit's better to be great at one
thing than to be good at a lotof other things. So if you're
closer to being great at onething, you should probably go
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after that. Also think thatsuccess begets more success. And
when you become successful atone thing, other things just
kind of fall into place.
Randall Kaplan (18:48):
We also talk about knowing who your
competition is there, I thinkall of us look around and say,
Alright, I want to be betterthan that person or that person.
But you, you view it as a wholedifferent level. So how do you
view competition? What's youradvice to help people who want
to be great? How they shouldview competition?
Jason Derulo (19:07):
Yeah, I mean, I try to give this advice all the
time. I mean, even to my likenieces and nephews, because I
think we get so wrapped up inour circles and where we live in
like, the people around us thatwe think that those people are
our competition. But the truthof the matter is, statistically,
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those people are not going to besuccessful. So you got to dream
bigger. You have to be able tothink outside the box and pick
somebody that you're competingwith. That's at the top of their
game. You know, so like, if youplay basketball, don't don't
compete against the kids thatare just cool, because the
chances are, none of those kidsare going to the NFL to the NBA,
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right? So just statistically,it's just not likely, right? So
you need to pick somebody inyour mind. That's going to make
you up your game up to Somebodysent me a you shouldn't be
looking at what how many shots,curry is taken and, and do
exactly the workouts that he'sdoing. You shouldn't be doing
the workouts that that Johnnyfrom down the street is doing
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because Johnny is gonna probablylive down the street for the
rest of his life. I know itsounds harsh, but it's the harsh
truth.
Randall Kaplan (20:21):
So I want to talk about ingredients of
success. We're talking aboutwork ethic, which I teach I
coach, I mentor, and I thinkwork ethic is most important
determinant of our success, youshow up to a regular job, I
mean, your job is not as a nontraditional job, most people are
going to work, you show up firstperson, the morning last,
personally, you do that yourwhole career, you're going to be
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very successful, whatever you domake the most important
determinant of our success.
Jason Derulo (20:48):
Ah, I think the harder you work, the better
chances, you have to besuccessful. But I do think that
there's some people that don'twork as hard. And they still
become successful. I thinkthere's something to be said
about people working smarter aswell. Right? So you can take the
long way. And I can take theshort way because I just
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understand things better. And wecan still end up at the same
place at the same time. But youworked way harder than I did. So
I do believe in work ethic. AndI do believe in working hard.
Because you just want to youjust want to have the best
chance possible. But workingsmarter, I think is is even more
important. I
Randall Kaplan (21:32):
think one of the most important determinants of
our success is also the value ofa team talk about collaboration
in this dude wallpaper and yougiving these amazing
opportunities for thesongwriters to get to work with
you.
Jason Derulo (21:45):
Yeah, man, I believe there's talented people
all over the world. And somepeople have just never been
given an opportunity. And a lotof my biggest songs even are
from producers that never had ahit before. And yeah, wallpaper
being one of them. You know,just heard this beat. And it was
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from an unknown producer. But itdidn't need to be from a named
producer. Because if I like whatI'm hearing, then that's all
that I care about. You know, Ijust I don't have to work with
the biggest producer in theworld. For the product to be
good. So I'd go from from talkdirty to marry me. Trumpets,
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John Bailey yawn. That was hisfirst hit as well. I mean,
there's so many of us. I mean,obviously, savage love all of
these producers, they'd neverhad a hit before. And yeah, I
mean, like, I continuously wantto work with people that are
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that are talented, you know,from the top level to the bottom
level, I actually would ratherwork with people that just need
an opportunity.
Randall Kaplan (22:59):
One of the core ingredients of my success, if
not, the core ingredient issomething called extreme
preparation. So I always want tobe the most prepared person in
the room. That means ifsomeone's preparing one hour for
a show, or podcast, I'm doing20, sometimes 30 of that, and I
Jason Derulo (23:16):
could tell the shows, thank you,
Randall Kaplan (23:19):
for sure. How important is extreme preparation
been in your success?
Jason Derulo (23:25):
Man, if people knew how much preparation could
save you in a room, I think alot of people would just work
way harder. People asked me if Iget nervous before I go on
stage. And the answer is no, Idon't. Because I know exactly
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what's going to happen when Iget on out there on stage. It's
not, I'm not guessing. I've donethat show. For hundreds of
hours, my rehearsals are eighthours long. So I know exactly
what I get on the stage. I knowexactly what I'm gonna sound
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like I know exactly what I'mgoing to look like. How can I be
nervous? I've done it so manytimes. And except I just started
my residency in Vegas.
Randall Kaplan (24:23):
Everyone about it where it is how many nights a
week that's promoted here. Yeah,so
Jason Derulo (24:28):
my residency in Vegas just started I just had my
first weekend. It's at Voltaireand the Venetian resort in Las
Vegas. And I wanted to createthis 360 show where the entire
room is the stage, you know,from where the audience sits. So
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the actual stage the entire roomis the stage. Now this is a
totally different kind of show.
You know what I'm saying? Andit's going to be the first of
its kind and I I'm going out anddoing it for the first time. Now
I'm shitting my pants. I'm like,damn, like, I never do this shit
before this is totallydifferent. I actually have no
idea what's gonna happen becausenow we're dealing with the fans
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in the room. You know, there'san element of, there's a whole
nother element that doesn't eveninvolve me. But it ended up
being incredible. I think it'smy favorite show that I've put
together so far, man, and I'mreally excited about it. People
have been through the roof abouthow they how much they enjoyed
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the show. Congrats. Thank you,brother.
Randall Kaplan (25:39):
I'm gonna go please do man. I'll buy get some
good tickets. Absolutely. I gotto what one of the things that
every famous person issuccessful person I know. And
we've talked about famous, I'mtalking about online social
media has haters. Right. There'sa negative respondent bias that
people have as well, a bitch andthey moan. And there are
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sometimes not as easy or happyto say positive comments. So
you've had a lot of hatersonline, but you say, not all
this is bad. Some of the hatershave actually helped you change
your music. So what what's yourview on the haters? And then
how, especially after your firstalbum, that the one of the
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haters or some of the hatersactually helped you? Yeah.
Jason Derulo (26:26):
So social media is can be social media can be a
really, really tough place. Andit's definitely not for the
faint of heart, especially whenyou start to have success. When
you're on the come up, it feelslike people are way more
amenable, and way more. They'remore, they're root for you more.
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And as you the bigger you get,the more hate that comes. And I
think you should embrace thecomments, you know, and, and
learn from some stuff. You know,I remember when I put out the
first album, and you know, whatyou say had, you know, all this
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auto tune on it, right? Andlike, people were like, Oh, he
can't sing. It's like, auto tuneon it. So like the next project,
I was like, Oh, shit, like,maybe I shouldn't be putting on
his auto tune. Like, maybe Ineed to, like, show my voice,
you know what I'm sayin? Andwithout those those words,
without, you know, thosecomments that, you know, felt
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hurtful at the time. I probably,you know, would have done the
same thing again, you know, andnot not knowing that people
wanted to hear something totallydifferent. So I embrace all
comments. You know, if, if, if,I mean, obviously, certain
comments are just like you throwaway, but you might find some
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some gold within, within a meancomment. So
Randall Kaplan (27:58):
lots of celebrities. Well, we'll switch
gears. I want to talk aboutbusiness. Now. You've been a
very successful businessman.
investor, you found a greatpartner in a collab, I want I
want to talk about, tell usabout the car wash business. And
is your shirt really worth $2billion?
Jason Derulo (28:13):
Yes. So the company is worth $2 billion. Not
my share.
Randall Kaplan (28:17):
But you're doing okay. I'm doing great.
Jason Derulo (28:20):
There's only three of us in within the company. So
that's myself, Danny white, andChris Erickson. So
Randall Kaplan (28:26):
VC funding or no VC funding? No, it's all self.
That'll work. 2 billion dividedby three. Yeah, man. Yeah,
that's a good one. Yeah,
Jason Derulo (28:34):
it's it's really a special, special company. And
you know that, like I said, calljust to tell people what's
called the model. It's calledRocket carwash. And the model
is, you know, obviously, it's,it's when you go to a carwash,
usually, you know, you pay foryour carwash, you go home, and
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then you wait for your car to bedirty, and you come back again,
when it's filthy. With thismodel, you pay a membership, and
you can wash your car. Anytime,you know, whether you feel like
you got one little scratch orone little, little bird due to
join your car, you can just goand get that cleaned up, you
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know, the next day and not haveto pay anything extra. I mean,
it's really, really a value add.
Right. And, yeah, it's that themembership model, I think is the
best model. And I think thateverybody is moving towards the
membership model, not in justcar washes and not just
streaming services. Buteverywhere. Everybody is trying
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to move towards the membershipmodel because it's fixed income.
And when people are looking tobuy large companies, it's way
it's way better to buy somethingthat you know exactly how much
that company is making. And itIt's fixed. You don't have to
worry is it gonna go up? It'sgonna go down? No, for the last
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three years, it's been this, youknow, people have a membership.
It doesn't doesn't waver verymuch, right?
Randall Kaplan (30:12):
We love investing in these unsexy
businesses, people already lovetechnology. And the margins are
so great while the carwashindustry is $28 billion, your
globally it's grown athistorical growth rate of 3.1%
people wash their cars. So theydo
Jason Derulo (30:27):
even in the pandemic. You know, it's like,
like, how are we still thinkingabout washing our cars
independent? Cars are people'sprized possession. Right? It's
like, this is like the one thingthat I like, really, really care
about, it's like, it's a, it's asymbol of me. And that's how a
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lot of people think,
Randall Kaplan (30:48):
or, but as you said, you want to be a
billionaire. What's why,
Jason Derulo (30:52):
um, I want to be able to there's not a lot of
black billionaires in America.
And I think the the billionairesthat we do have, most of which
are our entertainers and madetheir money doing that I really
want to make the majority of, ofmy money doing something totally
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different. And I want to show adifferent path. I think it's
important for me, but I thinkit's important from the
community that that I come frombeing in the community in Miami,
but also the community in Haitiand show that no matter where
you're from, you can have a hugeimpact on the world. And not
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just music and not just sports.
But there's other things that wecan do as well, to be
successful. So
Randall Kaplan (31:48):
when you were trying to meet people and get
mentors, you wrote to a bunch ofblack billionaires, and you were
asking for five words ofencouragement. And nobody
responded. So are you going torespond to people asking you for
five words of encouragement? Howdo they get a hold of you? And
what are 10 words ofencouragement that
Jason Derulo (32:09):
responded to be fair, but that Tyler Perry
responded, okay,
Randall Kaplan (32:14):
so one out of how many, like seven? That's not
a good response rate.
Jason Derulo (32:21):
That's not a good response rate.
Randall Kaplan (32:23):
So when what how are people gonna get a hold of
you? Not that you got 300million fans or followers around
the world? But what, what kindof advice do you have for a
young black man who wants amentor, and for you to give them
10 words of encouragement thatyou were looking for when you
were younger? So
Jason Derulo (32:42):
already, I'd put my money where my mouth is. So
the top people within my, mycircle, are, are African
American as well. So I alreadyyou know, doing that, right. And
I just think I want to givepeople opportunities that
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wouldn't normally getopportunities. And when I walked
in here, and you talked aboutthe internship program that you
have here, I think it's abeautiful thing, because I come
from the same model, and I dothe same thing. And it's all
about giving people that youthink, want it bad enough, an
opportunity, because all ittakes is an opportunity. Like
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today when I was playingbasketball today, right? It was
five in the morning. I camelate, they were already past the
first quarter. And I came in Ishot to Air Boss five in the
morning. Yeah, five in themorning is fucked up to air boss
Randall Kaplan (33:42):
who was playing the five in the morning. First
of all, so it's
Jason Derulo (33:45):
a really competitive game that I play
here is like, all like formerHooper's, like either from from
the polls or, or like thatplayed in college, you know,
like, they're, they're, youknow, they're good. They're
good, great, but but people sowe play before the
crowd comes. Okay, so I'm reallyearly. So I come in excited.
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It's been a while since I playedto wearables.
But I didn't get a chance towarm up so the whole room is
like, ah, take him out. Like heprobably needs to come up. Then
I got an easy lay in sometimesyou just need to see go in one
time. And one of the guys on theteam. He just kept feeding me
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the ball like he kept giving methe opportunity. Even though it
wasn't looking good. He justgave me the opportunity. The
game winning shot. At thispoint, I'm I'm like, one for
five. Not my best game. Two forfive, two. A game winning shot,
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the guy that's been carryingthis on his back has a shot that
he can take, instead of takingthat shot. He gave me the
opportunity. I'm like way back.
But I'm wide open, leaving meopen at this point. You gave me
the opportunity.
I felt so good coming off. Rollsaround rim. Boom, boom head. But
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all they needed was theopportunity. I needed someone to
believe in me. You
Randall Kaplan (35:36):
also want the ball in your hands to win the
game? Absolutely. I think everysuccessful person i Every
successful person wants a ballin their hands to control the
outcome.
Jason Derulo (35:45):
Absolutely. And if you can help change somebody's
life, man, I mean, I thinkthat's the greatest reward.
Randall Kaplan (35:54):
At some point, you're in Omaha, Nebraska at a
restaurant, you gave a waitressa $5,000 tip? How important are
acts of service for you? Whenyou think about your legacy?
What do you mean by acts ofservice? And is that what
motivates you these days?
Jason Derulo (36:12):
I'm almost shocked sometimes by people's service,
because I think of myself andwhat I would, what I would do if
I was a waiter, or like who likewho I would be if I was a
waiter, and how I would treatpeople. So living in Los
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Angeles, and being from Miami,I'm used to a certain level of
service, which is very, verylow.
Randall Kaplan (36:41):
But you're famous, you probably get good
service most of the time.
Jason Derulo (36:44):
Yes, but you'd be surprised still, you'd be
surprised. And every time I getgreat service, I think about
hiring that person. Because it'sso few and far between to
receive exceptional service.
Like good service is cool, butexceptional service is rare. And
in Omaha, man you getexceptional service is kind of
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the norm. And I hadn't been inOmaha for a while. And like
going there, I was just sorefreshed by the service there.
I was just like, I need to blessthis person because I want them
to understand how much Iappreciate what they did today.
So I gave him $5,000
Randall Kaplan (37:29):
How pay for that person's College? Did you know
that? Yeah,
Jason Derulo (37:33):
I saw a post that they did afterwards.
Randall Kaplan (37:36):
Must feel pretty good. That was a beautiful
thing. Absolutely. So youbrought your three year old son
Jason, but
Jason Derulo (37:41):
he wasn't he wasn't happy when I asked for
the $5,000. But
Randall Kaplan (37:46):
no, I think he the MTU Okay, $5,000 more I
gotta pay for next year. So youbrought your that is my life, by
the way? Well, that's whathappened, by the way when you
become wealthy. And I had asimilar situation that you
talked about before making a lotof money and lots of people come
after you and you know, ask forthings and some of its
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appropriate family familymembers, but a lot of it's not
and puts a lot ofresponsibility, a lot of
pressure on you as well.
Definitely not not fun. Butlet's talk about fun and life
changing. You brought yourreally cute three year old son
here, Jason King, how has been afather changed your life and
change your entire outlook onlife.
Jason Derulo (38:28):
Man has been extraordinary. I have recently
been seeing on social media.
People have been doing a postsaying like, I don't have any
kids and I'm living, I'm livingthe best my best life. And
there's no like you shouldn'tfrown on people that don't have
kids. I don't frown on peoplethat don't have kids. But I
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think that they're missing outon feeling what real love is,
and learning what real love is.
Because my relationship with myparents has even changed from
having a son. Because I'llunderstand love in a totally
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different way than I ever have.
And everybody won't get theopportunity to have kids. But I
I would implore people to, to ifit's right for your life, to try
it because it's really reallytransformed my life in a way
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that I mean even words can'tdescribe
Randall Kaplan (39:45):
one of the grave honor statements that someone
told me one of my best friendsRick Rivera, who had four kids
when I when I met him they werevery young 432 and one was
you'll understand the meaning oflife when you have kids and I
got five kids, as we talkedabout before the show my message
to four year old and herbirthday is tomorrow and my
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daughter, Bianca, I have twingirls, one graduated Wisconsin
two weekends ago, my daughtergraduated Cornell this past
weekend. And all the parents hadto get up there. You know, she
has a house with 10 Girls,they've been best friends
forever. And then they had alittle party with a food truck
with all the parents and friendsand all the 10 Dads had to get
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up and say something about theirkids. And I went, I went last.
And as I was talking about mykids, like I do, I cried like a
baby. And it's just like such a.
And, you know, I'm a crier.
Whenever I talk about my kids,it's, it's, you know, they've
seen it in here a few times aswell. But it's so emotional. And
and my advice to you on this,I'm sure you have it is just
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take every single moment withyour son that you possibly can,
no matter how busy you are. AndI know for sure he's he's here
today. Couple more things. Ijust want to talk about his
philanthropy. You had afoundation that helped people in
Haiti for a while you've donethings like the Make a Wish
Foundation. What are you doingnow? And you feel a tremendous
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responsibility, not only withyour money over these 300
million followers to have animpact on massive amounts of
people?
Jason Derulo (41:19):
Yeah, so my new goal is within interested in are
we talking about kids, becausemy new philanthropic goal is to
help really young kids learn.
And I'm developing a TV show,not for profit TV show that'll
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help kids learn through song.
And that's been like the bigproject, you know, for the last
year, as well as doingchildren's books. So so, you
know, in the nonprofit sector,
Randall Kaplan (42:00):
I always have a show with something I called,
fill in the blank to. Excellent.
So we're going through one byone question. So here we go. The
biggest lesson I've learned inmy life is
how is it supposed to be onesentence, it can be whatever you
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want. The biggest lesson I'velearned in my life is
Jason Derulo (42:29):
the biggest lesson I learned in my life is that
success is rented. It's neverowned, I'm sorry, that it's one
that we talked about today.
Randall Kaplan (42:43):
That's one of my favorite ones. And all the
research I did on you, I'm gonnaI'm gonna think about that one
for a long time.
Jason Derulo (42:49):
It's really poignant. And I think once once
people have reached a point intheir life, I think it's
important information for them.
Randall Kaplan (42:58):
Number one personal goal is
Jason Derulo (43:00):
my number one personal goal is to be the best
role model for my son. Numberone professional goal is my
number one professional goal isto
my number one professional goalis to make sure that I'm having
(43:23):
fun and every is making sure I'mhaving fun on the journey. I
think I get so caught up in thedollars and cents sometimes that
it stops being fun. And again, Italk about life being short, and
(43:44):
I don't want to do things thatwill bog down my life. And a lot
of times people will meet me,they'd be like, you're just such
a happy guy, like you're sohappy. I think that's really
important to protect your peaceand protect your happiness. So
it's not all about dollars andcents for me.
Randall Kaplan (44:02):
The craziest thing that happened in my career
is
Jason Derulo (44:08):
the craziest thing that happened in my career is
when I was finally able to getout of the deal. My first record
deal I had been trying to getout of it for years and ended up
having to like threaten them andalso pay my way out and then I
(44:28):
was able to get out. I thoughtthe whole world would be my
oyster and I thought that everylevel would be clamoring to have
me I had sold 200 millionrecords at that point. And I
went out into the circuit and Idid not receive the the red
carpet like I thought that Iwould. So I decided to go
(44:52):
independent and released savagelove as an independent artist as
well as take you down As anindependent artist, and I didn't
know what to expect, but I tooka chance. And as you can
imagine, after the release ofthose songs, all those same
(45:12):
people that said, No, we'reclamoring for for a situation.
But I took a chance on myself.
Amazing.
Randall Kaplan (45:21):
The funniest thing that's happened in my
career is funniest
Jason Derulo (45:23):
thing that's happened in my career was I was
performing at Wembley Stadium.
Early, very early on in mycareer, it was my first time,
first or second time performingat Wembley Stadium. So legendary
venue, obviously, and it waslike the summer time jam thing
was hot as hell, and had thisleather jacket on. And I was
trying to take the jacket off,it was hot, I was sweating, and
(45:48):
couldn't get it off, like theleather was sticking to my skin.
And I'm like, looking over toone of the dancers like, hey,
like, Help me take the shirtoff. And she's just in her own
worlds, dancing. And she wasgoing hard. And she finally
notices me. And as she's like,trying to take it off, like she
(46:14):
gets the arm off. And then themic is in his hand and the mic
drops on the floor. And I waslike, damn it in front of 80,000
people. So that was like thefunniest moment.
Randall Kaplan (46:28):
But one thing I've dreamt about doing for a
long time, but haven't is.
Jason Derulo (46:38):
Oh, no, I have one of those. Yeah, I can't think of
anything.
Randall Kaplan (46:46):
The one person in the music business that I
haven't met, but I would like tois awesome. Don't have one of
those. You don't have one of us.
If I could go back and say onething to my 21 year old self,
what would it be?
Jason Derulo (47:02):
I would say be yourself. When I was 21 years
old, I was trying to find myselfwithin other people. And I was
trying to find success bylooking at other people's
success and trying to mirrorwhat they were doing. And I
didn't understand that I couldjust be myself and be in my own
(47:26):
skin. Especially in that timeperiod of my life. I felt like I
was trying to emulate otherpeople's success. So I would
tell myself, just do your ownthing. My
Randall Kaplan (47:37):
biggest regret in life is
Jason Derulo (47:43):
my biggest regret in life Zion come on the show
sooner
Randall Kaplan (47:50):
than I could cry for a moment here.
Jason Derulo (47:54):
This has been fantastic man. I think you know,
someone doing a lot ofinterviews. I've talked to a lot
of people across the world. Butyou've like really dug deep and
you did your homework and like,you know this shit like the back
of your head to thank you forit.
Randall Kaplan (48:08):
I appreciate you. La Pacino. I want to thank
him for setting us up. You knowso many people you meet in your
life help you in a seminalmoment having you on my show is
huge for me. So I appreciate it.
I've had a lot of guests likeMike Tyson and Mark Cuban but
super pumped to have you on myshow. I'm grateful for you being
here. I know you had a very longday and you got along with a
couple of shows. So thank youhope we can get to know each
(48:31):
other. Yeah. You're anincredible guy. Congratulations
on all your success. And again,thanks for being here.
Jason Derulo (48:38):
Thanks, Ron.
Appreciate you
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