March 25, 2024 • 41 mins
In this episode, we delve into the heart-wrenching story of Riley Strain and explore the aftermath of the tragedy that happened right down the road from us here in Nashville. We analyze the influence of social media and "internet sleuths" on the investigation, questioning the delicate balance between assistance and interference.
Drawing from the recent incident involving college students, we grapple with the complexities of accountability and solidarity during nights out as we try to put ourselves in their shoes. Through candid discussions, Shawn calls his high school & college friends to ask them what they would have done in this situation. We tackle the complexities of group dynamics w/ excessive drinking at a young age.
Transitioning from the somber to the extraordinary, we recount Shawn's recent Navy Seal experience. Join us "In The Booth"!
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We are back in the booth and I'mSean Booth.
And happy Monday, hopefully.
Guys are having the best dayand it's been a fun couple of
weeks here.
I've been out of town Sam Katzcurrently out of town, as you
know from the last episode.
I was training with the NavySEALS last week, which was so
much fun and quite theexperience, and also today, a
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special but sad episode.
We have producer Andrew and itis his last episode here and
we're going to miss him dearly.
So he's going to join us todayand we're going to talk to you
all about what you have going onand why you were leaving us
here in Nashville Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, dude, happy to be on.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
And thank you guys for listening, Whether you are
in Pinehurst, North Carolina,Carlisle, Pennsylvania or
Kalamazoo, Michigan, weappreciate your support.
We are here in Nashville,Tennessee, and as I was walking
into the studio, sad, sad newsthey found the body of Riley
Strain, and this has been goingon now for almost two weeks.
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I think it's made national news.
You've probably seen it allover TikTok, Instagram, if you
haven't.
A college kid and hisfraternity.
They came to Nashville,Tennessee, for a weekend and he
supposedly got kicked out ofLuke Bryan's bar here on
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Broadway and somehow still don'tknow the details.
But his body was just found inthe river.
So that was the big fear.
The river runs right nearBroadway here and there are a
lot of question marks of whathappens and a lot of theories
going on right now.
You kind of thought and figuredthat he was going to end up in
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the river, but once you saw iton the news, it just makes your
heart sink and makes you sick toyour stomach.
Andrew, you think it was just asimple case of him being too
drunk and just stumbling intothe river.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, I mean first off so horribly sad.
I mean it's crazy how I've beenfollowing this like pretty
closely for like a week and ahalf and now that you see like
the headline that like oh, hisbody was found, it's like a
whole new.
I can't imagine how his parentsmust feel.
Like I saw something that theysaid yesterday that they're like
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still really hopeful andconfident that he's alive and
like doing everything you can tocling to that.
Like you know.
You know that like there'sprobably a 99% chance that he
fell in the river, but like that1% becomes like everything
you're clinging to as a parent.
I'm sure I mean I have no, I'venever heard of this kid, I have
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no relation to him and I waslike clinging to that 1%
Absolutely.
I so hope that he's justsomething crazy happened and
he's alive, and so it's a hugebummer to see that yeah, to see
the news, I'm sure, but alsolike relief for his family to be
able to, like now mourn, makesteps forward.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
We were talking about this this morning is.
It's interesting how we don'treally know there's a lot of
like things that we don't know.
Like what was he doing beforethe bar Cause?
Luke Bryant said that they onlyserved him one drink and two
waters and they said that hecalled his mom at like eight,
which is an hour and a halfbefore he got kicked out, and
his mom and dad said like heseemed totally fine, so
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beforehand was he like poundingshots somewhere and they just
like caught up to him, or I meana theory that happens,
unfortunately, on Broadway moreoften than we would probably
like.
Is well, definitely more oftenthan we would like.
Is that people get roofied menand women.
And it happens.
I don't know what the objectiveis all of the time, but it
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happens more often than a lot ofpeople think, and so that was
kind of where my mind wentinitially when they were like he
only got served one drink Causehe looks in the videos and one
of his frat brothers said in thevideos like this is not how he
normally behaves, like we'vebeen partying with him for four
years and like he doesn't get,he doesn't stumble into walls
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and like I mean the poor kid islike crawling up church street.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
It's horrible.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, it's.
Yeah, you have a millionquestions about it and
especially now with TikTok andall the internet sleuths, I
don't want to say it's a badthing, cause you have more eyes
on it.
You have everybody trying to doresearch and so many people
flew in here to Nashville justlike up and down those streets,
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the gyms quarter mile fromBroadway and everything where it
happened.
So it was weird to seeeverybody and I kept on asking
myself I'm like, is this a goodthing that this many people are
getting involved?
Obviously, those girls foundhis debit card on the river bank
, which was weird.
When you're falling into theriver, you don't just reach in
your pocket and throw your debitcard out of your pocket.
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Yeah, so I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Maybe didn't have.
A theory that I had was like Ialways tell people when we go
out on Broadway like don't, ifyou don't have to, like don't
bring your wallet, bring a debitcard or a credit card in your
ID, because that's a lot harderto and less valuable.
Like there's pickpocketseverywhere and so that could
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have been.
He just had his debit card inhis back pocket and when he was
like tumbling, it fell out.
But like, even that seems likebut even where he was kind of a
stretch when they found it.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
it wasn't a spot where you can tumble and like.
Even I saw a video this morningpop up on my TikTok and they
had a guy going up and down inthe riverbank where they
supposedly would have gone in orwhere he was last tracked, and
it was like impossible to fallthrough all of the bushes and
the trees.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, and then to also fall with enough force that
you're getting deep enough intothe river that the current is
taking you.
I mean I guess, yeah, like thatseems him falling in the river
to me was like I was likeconvinced there's no way,
because everybody's, like thepolice even said like falling in
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the river at this location islike so unlikely.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
That, but this is the only, really the only option to
look.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
And then people talking about him possibly
getting in a car when they sawthat footage of the cop.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
So that's where I have my, where I think that
TikTok probably gets likenegative Right, and that is
because we're now.
Those creators are using oftragedy to get clicks.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
That's exactly what I was going to say.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
And so and like that's all just theory, so like
his poor parents have to.
I mean, maybe they don't see it, maybe they do, but if they do.
Like now you're introducingthese like really far-fetched
ideas that like for the regularcivilian is like almost like I
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don't want to say entertainment,but like you're being a
conspiracy theorist, there's no.
Like you're just throwing ideasout there to like see what hits
on TikTok and like you have noskin in the game because you
have nothing to lose and there'sno connection to this kid who's
a son, and yeah, that's where Ithink that TikTok probably gets
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like a little bit negative inthat life.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more.
That's what I was thinking alllast week to see people coming
in.
I'm like you're using a tragedy, this poor kid, his family and
his parents I mean the thingsthat they're going through and
for you to come here, make sometype of again theory and blast
on social media and be likeRiley Shrain got in a car here's
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why or here's the evidence ofthis and there's no real
evidence.
And you know they want to arguethat they're helping, but it's
like, yeah, you're helping, butalso I don't know.
That's the fine line where.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You should be introducing none of your own
thoughts.
You should be if you want toTikTok, live and be like.
This is what I'm doing inspreading awareness for a cause.
Awesome, because probably thathelps that like.
If it weren't for TikTok, I'mnot convinced that this case
would have become a nationalnews story Correct, which is
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awesome, because then you'regetting more resources, blah,
blah, blah.
Great news.
We love that.
But then, once you startintroducing your own theories,
it's like what position ofauthority.
You have no idea what you'retalking about.
Oh, you paused a police cam, ablurry police cam footage.
You paused it at the very, veryend and you're like he's not in
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the video, he's not on thesidewalk and there's a car right
there.
The only explanation is that hegot in the car.
It's like no, do you think thatthe police didn't think about
that?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I know, and they're like you can hear the audio.
He's saying get in, slow itdown, and then he's gone.
It's like man, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
And to be totally honest, that could have happened
.
And then they like there's somuch that we don't know he could
have.
A lot of things could havehappened from that police body
cam footage to him gettingeither put in a river or falling
in a river.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Right Cause that's also where a big homeless camp
is.
And then you have one guy onTikTok talking about how he 100%
didn't fall in.
He got to the homeless camp,got jumped, whatever, taken
advantage of.
When he was in that state ofminds something happened where
they killed him or whatever andthen toss him in the river, and
(10:50):
it's something that we'llprobably never know.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, yeah.
One thing that I thought wasinteresting about the body cam
footage is like those theoriesof like oh he just like
drunkenly stumbled into ahomeless camp and was just like
I'm lost, like someone help meis and then put himself in a
position to get jumped, If youlike the police footage where he
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like is walking straight.
He addresses the cop formally,is very like there's no slur in
his speech.
He's like tightened up from thelast time we saw him.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And everybody who's partied knows that when you see
a cop you're adrenaline spikes,and so he had enough awareness
to see that police officer andgo all right, I got to dial it
in here because if I keepstumbling around I'm going to
get arrested, and so he wouldn'thave put him.
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He had at least enoughwherewithal to not just like
meander into like somewheredangerous.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Right, you can even hear his footsteps as he's
approaching the cop.
Just how heavy and loud theywere because people were saying
he wasn't that messed up.
I'm like no, listen to hisfootsteps.
When he was approaching thatcop car, that dude was stumbling
, yeah.
And of course you see a cop andyou're like how are you doing?
Have a good night, and that'sit, and you move forward, yeah.
So when people are like no, hewasn't that messed up, I'm like
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no, you can't say that based onthat five second interaction
with the police.
But to your point too, the prosof TikTok right, it got a lot
of exposure and I don't think itwould have been as big of a
national probably worldwide newsstory without social media.
They pulled out two other deadbodies in the river this week.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I was just going to say that.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
This river has a lot of dead bodies, for whatever
reason.
Dre saw one one time when shewas taking photos by the river
and a guy was pulling out a deadbody and it's like known the
Cumberland River to have deadbodies in there.
Clearly they pulled out twothis week just looking for him.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, wow, that's traumatizing.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
But yeah, it's terrible and so sad for the
family.
They probably like, even ifthey didn't find his body for
the next 30, 40 years, you'restill holding on to that hope
that he's alive.
Right, you have to hold on tothat 1%.
Now it's just like it's final,but hopefully they're able to
move forward as best they can.
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And one thing that a lot ofpeople were talking about are
his friends at the bars and howterrible they are and they
should have been with him.
And this is a scenario thatI've kind of played back and try
to put myself in.
When you go out with a group ofbuddies like that, I mean, I
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don't know, andrew, what do youthink?
Like these guys are fratbrothers in college, been
partying for a while.
I gotta imagine that almost ona nightly basis when these guys
go out, they get split up atsome point and it just happens
that they end up together at theend of the night the next
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morning.
So I'm having a tough timeimmediately being like oh, those
friends were terrible, totally.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I mean, you're a senior.
They're seniors in a fraternityat a massive, the biggest state
school, I'm pretty sure inMissouri it's a huge.
I grew up in Michigan, so it'slike I related it to Michigan
State.
A senior fraternity brother atMSU is or Mizzou or whatever
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university.
You're a professional partier.
You are well versed in drinking, partying, going out that's
kind of a very common occurrence.
And so when you look at yourbuddy outside the bar you just
got kicked out of the bar youlook at your buddy and you say,
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hey, man, I'm going to go backto the hotel and I'll catch up
with you guys later.
The friend doesn't evenprobably think for a second
because he's so now.
Ideally you would think thisisn't Mizzou.
You don't know where you are.
(15:25):
You're clearly very intoxicated.
This is an unfamiliar territory.
I'm going to come with you andjust make sure you get back to
the hotel.
But they're also drinking.
We can't put expectations onhis frat brothers to make sound
decisions when everyone's drunk.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Even the hotel was two blocks from Broadway.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It was straight up the road there, the opposite
direction of where he went.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
It's tough to be like man.
They're such terrible friends.
I do find it weird that it Eventhen I guess I don't know if I
do it took so long for them tofigure it out that he was
missing, even if you go home.
Listen, I've partied a lot inmy life.
I have partied since highschool, college.
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After college I had thecraziest buddies.
When you go out with a group ofguys, some guys don't come home
that night.
If he wasn't there when theygot home maybe they thought, hey
, he's with a girl or he'ssomewhere.
Obviously you want to try andget in touch with them to figure
it out.
Yeah, that's just part of it.
(16:40):
Like you said, to be in adifferent territory, to be in
Nashville, tennessee, and it wasonly 8 or 9 pm at night.
You get all these guys at thebar and you got one guy Maybe
he's the guy that leaves on hisown all the time.
There's always a buddy likethat.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Or maybe it's the guy who's like the sloppy guy and
you're like all right, well,he's going to figure it out.
I'm going to go back upstairs,I'm talking to these girls and
I'm with my buddies and it's 9o'clock.
Hotel's right there.
I mean, who knows what wasgoing through any of their minds
, obviously hindsight's 20-20.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Or the total opposite .
It sounds like from what hisparents said.
This is abnormal behavior.
Maybe he was the reallyresponsible friend who always
has his shit together and you'relike oh, certainly he's not
going to, he's always fine.
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He's always fine.
He just had a little bit toomuch to drink.
He'll be able to get home.
He's the responsible friend,you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, either way, they're probably all kicking
themselves.
Yeah, obviously that's reallysad.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I mean those poor kids they're going to get.
I mean their life is nowaltered forever.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Forever and I was thinking about that so much.
I'm like I want to know what mybuddies would do.
So I'm going to call one of myhigh school buddies, one of my
college buddies and a boy that Ihave now in that situation and
see what they would do.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
High school buddy is a deep pull.
We need Wait, wait, wait Beforeyou call.
We need context on who thesepeople are, how high school
We'll start.
We'll go one by one and thenyou can call them High school
buddy.
How often do you talk to him?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, all these guys I still talk to on a regular
basis.
These are all guys who I'vepartied a lot with.
So my high school buddy knowingeach other for a very long time
small town, live on the streetnext to one another, so he's
known me for most of my life.
College buddy played soccerwith him.
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He was my roommate, he livedacross the hall from me and he's
one of my best friends still tothis day.
And then one of my good friendshere in Nashville who I've been
out with a bunch prior to megoing sober.
So we'll start with.
I know exactly how this isgoing to play out too.
I guarantee my high schoolbuddy is going to be like well,
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buddy, I would have left you, orlike I would have expected to
be left.
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
There he is.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
How are we doing over there?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
We're doing good.
You're alive on In the Boots.
I've been waiting for my.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
In the Boots debut.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Here it is.
It's on March Madness Friday.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
It doesn't get better than that it doesn't, you know,
not even at work, just gettingready to wash some hoop.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Are we going to get you in trouble?
Right now Are you supposed tobe at work?
No, all right, no who?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
works.
No one works anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, all right.
Well, go.
Huskies, we have a scenario foryou here and I'm just going to
ask you a scenario and I want toknow what you would do in this
situation.
Okay, I mean, we've been inthis situation.
Probably not a good situation.
Yeah, say we go out, okay, witha group of buddies, or maybe
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it's just me and you.
We are in a new city and youknow drinking all day no, not us
, never.
It gets around eight o'clock,nine pm and I'm intoxicated, I'm
really drunk and I get kickedout of a bar.
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You're at the bar with me, gotanother group of friends at that
bar.
They walk me out of the door.
What are you doing in thatsituation?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I'm staying at the bar and having myself a night.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I knew you were going to say that, yeah.
Febby did that to me that'shappening to you All, right,
yeah.
Yeah, we're talking about theRiley Strain situation.
Do you know anything about that?
I don't, oh, okay, yeah, I mean, I mean I know various issues
that visit me with these things,but indeed I think there is a
difference between the fact thatthey are from Indian descent or
just about.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I mean, I've been roaming around Nashville drunk
as a skunk by myself and I haveno idea where I'm going.
There was a lot of alcohol inme.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah, so that's why I'm calling you.
I'm calling Horn.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I don't mean to get off track, but I also just found
out Kate Middleton's missing.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Is that, yeah, is that like a?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Did you know that?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I saw TikTok stuff on like images that were doctored.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
She's supposed to be found.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, Okay, I just found this out.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Oh really.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Oh, I didn't know that.
I literally just found this out.
I was like, well, that's prettybig.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
They like posted photos a couple of days ago, but
it doesn't really look like her.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Okay, maybe she's not found All right.
Well, that's for anotherpodcast episode.
I appreciate you taking thecall.
You got it, buddy.
All right, go Huskies.
He's going to say he'll, Idon't know, this one's going to
Back in the day.
You would say same thing.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Vote for Donnelly.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Vote for Donnelly.
There he is.
Al Horne, you're live on In theBooth.
Don't say anything too crazyover there.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
How's everyone doing today?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
There you go, pg rated.
I like it.
We're doing good.
How are you doing?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I got to keep it okay for the kids Can't complain.
It's 30 degrees but it's sunny.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
All right, and tell the people where you're calling
in from today.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Just outside of Boston Mass.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
All right, there he is Wicked cold up there.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
It's wicky cold, but we live here for a reason.
We appreciate the cold and whenthe sun's out we're psyching.
Put on some country musicdriving right now, but I got the
AirPods in so we're being safe,don't worry.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
There we go.
That's what I love about NewEnglanders.
All right, here's the deal.
I'm going to give you ascenario and you got Are you
doing Sam Cat?
No, sam Cat's actually out townthis week.
Okay, I understand.
I won't interrupt you anymore.
I'm going to give you ascenario and you're going to
tell me what you would do inthis situation.
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A completely honest answer here.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
I don't know anything else, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
All right.
So me and you, we're going outfor the night.
Oh Jesus, we're partying hard.
We're in a different city,we've got a group of guys with
us, all right and drinking allday.
It gets to about eight or ninePM, we're out at the bar and
(23:26):
everybody's there, and then Iget kicked out of the bar.
I'm a little.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Is this a hypothetical or are we talking
about something that's?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
happened to me?
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
I knew you'd be a good call,and so I get kicked out of the
bar.
I say I'm going back or I'mleaving, and then everybody else
is still at the bar.
What are you doing in thatsituation?
Speaker 4 (23:50):
I'm walking back with you, you are.
Questions asked.
Yeah, no, questions asked Allright.
Again, I'm 37 with kids.
Now I look at things different.
When I was 19 in college, I'mnot sure if I was walking back
with you.
So things have changed,perspective changed.
But right now, if we're goingout, the responsible thing is to
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make your heated, clearly notin the right mind if someone's
telling you you can't be in thebar.
I'm walking you home and we'regoing to make the best of the
night and probably end upsomewhere else and it's going to
be fun.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, I mean, that's a great answer and I was calling
you.
I'm like if I had asked themthis back in the day when we're
in college, I feel like I'd geta different answer now 100%.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Yep, the old me.
Maybe I was still staying atthe bar and wishing you luck on
your way and I'd catch up withyou in the morning.
But nowadays, yeah, we'd headback and you know what?
I think everyone else would endup following us and we'd go
figure out something else to do.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Right, but back in the day, when we're in college,
it's like a battlefield outthere.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
No, you can't keep track of everyone and yeah,
things are a little foggy.
You're in the moment.
Yeah, it's tough to say backthen, but I'd probably lean
towards every man for themselvesand we'll talk about it the
next morning, laugh about it,but everyone's kind of going
their own way and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
For sure, All right, that's a good answer.
Have you heard about the RileyStrain kid?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
You haven't either.
That's crazy, is it justbecause we're in Nashville?
So a kid two weeks ago inNashville, oh man, yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Oh, that's, tragic.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yeah, there's been similar stories in the past.
In Boston, if you talk down inthe waterfront, there's been,
over the last like five or 10years, similar stories where men
in their you know 25 to 35years old have gone missing.
There's actually like sometheory about it, but it's
absolutely tragic and terriblefor that to happen to anyone.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I know it's so terrible.
I kept on like trying to putmyself in that situation and now
obviously everybody iscritiquing his friends and
saying they're terrible friends.
They didn't go with him, andI'm just like man it's?
You never know what state ofmind you're in and you don't
know the personalities of thosekids.
And I was thinking over here,like you know, yeah, it's just
so hard to put yourself in thatsituation, but we've all kind of
(26:23):
been there, which is crazy.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Absolutely.
And you know when you're goingout in a social environment,
like you're not in the mostresponsible state of mind right,
like that's not when you'remaking your best decisions,
whether that's what you're doingsupportively for a friend or
what you're doing yourself, andthat's part of the problem going
out Alcohol is involved and youknow that type of stuff.
(26:46):
So, and unfortunately, in thisscenario it's like the worst
case scenario that can happen.
But you know there's risk withgoing out and it's you know it's
awful when you hear aboutsomething that's just happening.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
It is.
It is Well, all right.
I appreciate taking the call.
That's why you can't get abetter friend than this guy
right here.
You got a very different answerthan Cooper did.
I knew that was going to be thecase.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Oh, you didn't tell me he was involved.
Yeah, like I said, kids willchange you.
So how I look at things nowfrom a responsibility and
different perspective than backin the day, and that's where me
and Cooper are different, right.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Things will change for him.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Absolutely.
Well, I agree.
All right, buddy, I'll catch upwith you later.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
All right, don't forget to vote for Donnelly.
See ya, bye.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Kids will change you and just like, even like life
experience, like now movingforward in my life, like I'm
going to be so hyper aware of,like Lily's in Vegas this
weekend and I'm like you need tobe dialed in on, like going it
makes going out not as funbecause there's malicious people
(27:57):
out there and there's just suchevil in the world that there's
the like your buddy said, likethere's a risk with partying and
like that risk is becoming as Iget older and I mean I'm only
27.
Like that risk feels like it'sjust getting exponentially
greater and greater and greater.
Yes and for not a lot of gain.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
It's not worth it.
Yeah, and it's almost like youhave to be naive.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Right To be going out like that and we were naive,
yeah.
And as you get older, you startseeing all the bad and things
and the brisk and before, likeyou said there's.
You know nothing else reallymatters either.
You're like this is my life,this is going to be the greatest
night ever, and you're not evenlooking towards tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
So it's sad and definitely as a dad now, it
definitely breaks my heart evenmore.
So we're thinking about theirfamily and we're glad that they
got at least some closure here.
But anyways, moving on, lastweek I was training with the
SEALs.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, dude, I want to hear all about this.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
It was wild.
It was wild.
I worked with Paneray watches.
Have you ever heard of them?
Speaker 4 (29:06):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
They're luxury watch brands and they do a really cool
job of collaborating withcertain types of companies or
groups like the SEALs, and theymade a limited edition watch
that is a Navy SEAL watch.
It's like submersible watch.
They sold 25 in the US, 25overseas, and if you bought the
(29:29):
watch part, it's a package.
It's called an experience.
So you buy the watch and youget this experience.
The experience was to cometrain with the Navy SEALs for
three days.
I didn't buy the watch, I wasjust invited to go down there.
A couple other guys likeMichael Chandler, sick, yeah.
So it was sweet.
We got to do all that fun stuffand as soon as we get dropped
(29:51):
off, they put us in all of ourgear and they give us a partner.
They bring us out to this hugefield, hundreds of thousands of
acres they have out there, andthey're like all right, here's a
compass, we're going to giveyou guys five minutes and you're
going to go south.
You're going to find trucks.
(30:13):
We're giving you five minutesto get a head start and then you
have an hour to get to thosetrucks and if you're spotted by
any of the SEALs that are out inthe woods right now, you have
to go back to the start.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Oh, so you're not in.
It's on an open field.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
No, no woods, Like there's some open parts to it
Kind of like, and there's somereally thick woods open part and
like a corn maze, almost typething.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
It was wild, so you have to get to the.
The objective is get to a truck.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah, and, and under an hour.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
And under an hour.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
And are you doing anything once you get to the
truck, or does it just get tothe truck.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
No, you just got to get to the truck without being
spotted.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Are you paired with a person who knows what they're
doing or no?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
No, it's all guys from the experience, so these
are guys that just bought thewatches.
Just rich just rich, just richguys.
Yeah, so we go straight intothe woods I'm talking about the
thickest woods you've ever seenin your entire life.
Like I was like to the pointwhere I was getting really
scared because I'm like we'renever going to make it out of
this.
Like we had to, like, jump onbranches and trees to get
through and create a path, andit was like you're walking in
(31:23):
water, and one thing I learnedabout being a Navy SEAL, I guess
, is that you just got to beused to being wet all the time.
We had wet socks and shoes forthree days straight.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
And so that was.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Did you make it?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
We made it.
Yeah, we were the second team.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
No, you didn't get spotted at all.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
We got spotted right when we came out of the woods
because we were so loud.
He's like the guy was standingthere and he's like waiting for
us to walk out and he's like Icould see that tree shaking back
there Cause I was standing.
I like went up the branches tolook to see how much farther we
had in the woods and he's likeall you could see was like the
tree going back and forth.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Oh, so then you had to go back again, so we had to
start, yeah, Shoot yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
But then we made it an under hour and we were second
place for that.
We also did like physicaltraining, which was cool Waking
up at four in the morninggetting sprayed with hoses,
doing farmers, carries, pushups,burpees, all that fun stuff Did
some shooting, which is fun,and then we also got sent on a
(32:27):
mission taking like two days oftraining and again similar going
through the woods, with thistime we had paintball guns and
the seals had paintball guns andwe had to go with our whole
group.
So I was like leading the teamthrough the woods, like trying
to be stealth mode and walkingthrough all this water, which
I'm like there's no alligatorsout here and everybody's like,
(32:48):
yeah, no, there are.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
But I didn't even think about it until it was done
.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Like we were like laying on the ground next to all
these swamps, and one of theguys that was with me was like
yeah, that's why I was nervouswhen we were just sitting there
laying next to the swamp, Ididn't want to go in there and I
didn't even think twice aboutit.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
You have a paintball gun to defend yourself.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, and then the last day we went to the Navy
Seal Museum, which was supercool, and then we did an
obstacle course.
We did the training on thebeach with the raft and the
water.
The seal was like all right,I'm giving you guys 30 seconds
to go in the water and I betternot see any of you guys.
So we had the raft, so we hadto run out to the water, flip
(33:32):
the raft over, go underneath theraft.
We can smash with waves.
This fun stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, it sounds like a blast, dude.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
And then I got strapped to the side of a
helicopter and I was so nervousfor that.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
When you say strapped to the side of a helicopter, I
literally strapped to the sideof a helicopter.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
With what Bungie course One strap One, like one
strap that goes around yourwaist.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
What is it attached to?
It's attached to.
It's like a seatbelt.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
It just clips in the middle.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
To the exterior of the helicopter.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, you sit on the outside of the helicopter on a
bench.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Oh whoa, that's pretty sick.
So Was that cool or scary?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
It was cool, but I was way more scared than I
thought it was cool, Like again,that's another thing like the
older you get and I feel like Isee helicopters crashing all the
time and military chopperscrashing.
So I was super nervous becausepeople were talking about maybe
jumping out of the helicoptersthat were going to have to do
that and I was like, ooh, Idon't know about that and I'm
(34:30):
like I just had a baby.
He's at home, he's three monthsold.
I don't want to get in ahelicopter crash.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Is there like an unsubscribe option on this trip?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
So the helicopter comes around the field and it
lands, and then one of the sealsis like all right, line up from
tallest to shortest and I wasthe third tallest person and
they went all right, one, two,three, four, five, you, five,
you're going to start at thehelicopter.
I was like shit.
So immediately I'm like allright, I'm in the first group
for the helicopter.
And then we walk over there andI'm like super nervous and then
(35:03):
the guy points at me.
He goes, you're going first, ofcourse.
I was like fuck.
So I didn't really have time tothink and I'm just standing
there and we got to go over thesafety brief and just telling us
obviously you got to stay low,the blades have a lot of flex to
them, so don't stand up tall orelse you get your head taken
off.
And make sure as soon as youget on the bench you just sit
(35:24):
there, you slide on and if youhear the engine go out, it gets
really silent.
That means the engine's dead orthe engine gave out.
And then you just got to tuckyour legs into the left.
If we start spinning like crazy, tuck your legs in.
And they're saying all thisstuff Like we had to tell you
this stuff, and I'm like Jesus.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Cutie.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
And then I get on, and right before I got on I said
to one of the seals I'm like,do we have to do this?
And he's like, no, you don'thave to.
But this is like the coolestpart of the whole week.
And I'm like, oh man, he's likeit'll be fine.
And so I just really basicallyjust, you know, stopped being a
(36:07):
little bee and just hopped onthe plane and then just strapped
on and I was just grabbing tothe bars as hard as I possibly
could.
And so they just like take youaround and like they're just
driving, yeah, for like 10minutes and the guy was like,
well, we probably won't go overthe ocean because we don't have
any water gear If somethinghappens and we go down for a
landing.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Dude, they were totally just pulling your chain.
There's no way that it's that.
It's a 10 minute helicopterride.
They're the Navy SEALs.
I'm assuming that they werejust like trying to psych you
out.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yeah well, they did a damn good job of it because
he's like we're not going overthe ocean and then we're over
the ocean the entire time andthen anytime he would turn
towards my side.
I'm parallel with the ground,just hanging on by that one
strap and just, and I washolding as tight as I could to
the outside of that helicopter.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
See, I am the opposite of.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
You love that.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
A Navy SEAL, but I think that that would be so cool
.
I don't think I would be scaredat all to do that part.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Really.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Though, like, my brain would immediately go to
like when I'm in the woods, likewhat's in here, I would
immediately be scared of thecrocodiles, but I could get
strapped to that helicopter andI would be like because I would
just put I have full, 100% faiththat nothing's going to happen
Because they're the Navy SEALs.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I know.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I'm just like oh, you guys are, you're the best pilot
in the world to drive thishelicopter.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Something that did come for me was when I looked at
that pilot.
He was like the most pilotlooking person in the entire
world.
He was like mid 60s 50s.
He had like bright white hair,Like he just looked like he
would be a pilot for any movieand I was like, OK, this guy's
awesome, he's like dude.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I've built my entire career on driving this
helicopter into war, exactly.
You're going to be fine.
We're going to do a 10 minutelittle joy ride around.
You're just going to be just injoy.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I'm not going to make the biggest air of my career
and kill a civilian on this trip?
Speaker 1 (38:11):
That would be yeah, he's probably like let's just
get this over with because it'sexciting for me.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
But it was a nice charity ride for him.
But that was it.
It was awesome, glad to be back, glad to be back in Nashville
and real quick for the people.
Why are you leaving us?
Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, so I'm leaving Nashville, You're back in
Nashville, I'm about to head out.
My wife Lily got a job.
She's been in PA school for thewhat Thank you, thank you.
She's been in PA school atLipscomb for the last three
years, and so our two and a halfyears however long the program
is whatever and she got a joboffer in Grand Rapids, which is
(38:51):
where we grew up Grand Rapids,michigan, and it's kind of like
a dream job for her, which Iknow sounds like a corny, but it
really is.
It's exactly what she wanted tobe doing.
She was kind of like, if Iwould have asked her six months
ago what's your dream scenariofor your first job?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
This would be it.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
This would be it Hell yeah, yeah, we took the jump.
I'm sad to leave.
It's super bittersweet.
I've never done anything that'sthis bittersweet.
We've moved from Michigan toCalifornia, to California, to
here and now back to Michigan,and this is definitely the
hardest move.
We've built a pretty coolcommunity here and it's been a
(39:30):
great couple of years, but I'malso excited to get home.
And we're going to be.
Both our families are there andwe're probably going to be
having kids in the next coupleof years, and so being close to
grandparents was kind of a goal,and so it made sense.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, that's huge, that's awesome, that's exciting,
and I feel like the quality oflife is going to be so much
better just being close to yourfamily.
Yeah, making a family of yourown.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
It'll be a little bit of a slower pace.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Nashville is awesome, but it's a fast city and,
living in LA for five years andthen here for four, it's been
nine years of really fast pace.
So I'm excited to just chilland we're keeping our house here
and just renting it to mysister-in-law, so it'll be cool
to be able to actually, like wecan utilize it.
(40:22):
So I'm hoping to get back downhere at least a couple times a
year just for festivities andfun stuff like CMA Fest, or they
do that Music City Grand Prixevery year that we've been going
to Nice.
So stuff like that, we'll beback in town.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
All right.
Well, don't be a stranger.
We appreciate everything you'vedone in the podcast.
All listeners love producerAndrew.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
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We'll see you next week.
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We are back in the booth and I'mSean Booth.
And happy Monday, hopefully.
Guys are having the best dayand it's been a fun couple of
weeks here.
I've been out of town Sam Katzcurrently out of town, as you
know from the last episode.
I was training with the NavySEALS last week, which was so
much fun and quite theexperience, and also today, a
(01:09):
special but sad episode.
We have producer Andrew and itis his last episode here and
we're going to miss him dearly.
So he's going to join us todayand we're going to talk to you
all about what you have going onand why you were leaving us
here in Nashville Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, dude, happy to be on.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
And thank you guys for listening, Whether you are
in Pinehurst, North Carolina,Carlisle, Pennsylvania or
Kalamazoo, Michigan, weappreciate your support.
We are here in Nashville,Tennessee, and as I was walking
into the studio, sad, sad newsthey found the body of Riley
Strain, and this has been goingon now for almost two weeks.
(01:51):
I think it's made national news.
You've probably seen it allover TikTok, Instagram, if you
haven't.
A college kid and hisfraternity.
They came to Nashville,Tennessee, for a weekend and he
supposedly got kicked out ofLuke Bryan's bar here on
(02:11):
Broadway and somehow still don'tknow the details.
But his body was just found inthe river.
So that was the big fear.
The river runs right nearBroadway here and there are a
lot of question marks of whathappens and a lot of theories
going on right now.
You kind of thought and figuredthat he was going to end up in
(02:32):
the river, but once you saw iton the news, it just makes your
heart sink and makes you sick toyour stomach.
Andrew, you think it was just asimple case of him being too
drunk and just stumbling intothe river.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, I mean first off so horribly sad.
I mean it's crazy how I've beenfollowing this like pretty
closely for like a week and ahalf and now that you see like
the headline that like oh, hisbody was found, it's like a
whole new.
I can't imagine how his parentsmust feel.
Like I saw something that theysaid yesterday that they're like
(03:08):
still really hopeful andconfident that he's alive and
like doing everything you can tocling to that.
Like you know.
You know that like there'sprobably a 99% chance that he
fell in the river, but like that1% becomes like everything
you're clinging to as a parent.
I'm sure I mean I have no, I'venever heard of this kid, I have
(03:28):
no relation to him and I waslike clinging to that 1%
Absolutely.
I so hope that he's justsomething crazy happened and
he's alive, and so it's a hugebummer to see that yeah, to see
the news, I'm sure, but alsolike relief for his family to be
able to, like now mourn, makesteps forward.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
We were talking about this this morning is.
It's interesting how we don'treally know there's a lot of
like things that we don't know.
Like what was he doing beforethe bar Cause?
Luke Bryant said that they onlyserved him one drink and two
waters and they said that hecalled his mom at like eight,
which is an hour and a halfbefore he got kicked out, and
his mom and dad said like heseemed totally fine, so
(04:13):
beforehand was he like poundingshots somewhere and they just
like caught up to him, or I meana theory that happens,
unfortunately, on Broadway moreoften than we would probably
like.
Is well, definitely more oftenthan we would like.
Is that people get roofied menand women.
And it happens.
I don't know what the objectiveis all of the time, but it
(04:38):
happens more often than a lot ofpeople think, and so that was
kind of where my mind wentinitially when they were like he
only got served one drink Causehe looks in the videos and one
of his frat brothers said in thevideos like this is not how he
normally behaves, like we'vebeen partying with him for four
years and like he doesn't get,he doesn't stumble into walls
(05:02):
and like I mean the poor kid islike crawling up church street.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
It's horrible.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, it's.
Yeah, you have a millionquestions about it and
especially now with TikTok andall the internet sleuths, I
don't want to say it's a badthing, cause you have more eyes
on it.
You have everybody trying to doresearch and so many people
flew in here to Nashville justlike up and down those streets,
(05:32):
the gyms quarter mile fromBroadway and everything where it
happened.
So it was weird to seeeverybody and I kept on asking
myself I'm like, is this a goodthing that this many people are
getting involved?
Obviously, those girls foundhis debit card on the river bank
, which was weird.
When you're falling into theriver, you don't just reach in
your pocket and throw your debitcard out of your pocket.
(05:53):
Yeah, so I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Maybe didn't have.
A theory that I had was like Ialways tell people when we go
out on Broadway like don't, ifyou don't have to, like don't
bring your wallet, bring a debitcard or a credit card in your
ID, because that's a lot harderto and less valuable.
Like there's pickpocketseverywhere and so that could
(06:18):
have been.
He just had his debit card inhis back pocket and when he was
like tumbling, it fell out.
But like, even that seems likebut even where he was kind of a
stretch when they found it.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
it wasn't a spot where you can tumble and like.
Even I saw a video this morningpop up on my TikTok and they
had a guy going up and down inthe riverbank where they
supposedly would have gone in orwhere he was last tracked, and
it was like impossible to fallthrough all of the bushes and
the trees.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, and then to also fall with enough force that
you're getting deep enough intothe river that the current is
taking you.
I mean I guess, yeah, like thatseems him falling in the river
to me was like I was likeconvinced there's no way,
because everybody's, like thepolice even said like falling in
(07:10):
the river at this location islike so unlikely.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
That, but this is the only, really the only option to
look.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
And then people talking about him possibly
getting in a car when they sawthat footage of the cop.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
So that's where I have my, where I think that
TikTok probably gets likenegative Right, and that is
because we're now.
Those creators are using oftragedy to get clicks.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
That's exactly what I was going to say.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
And so and like that's all just theory, so like
his poor parents have to.
I mean, maybe they don't see it, maybe they do, but if they do.
Like now you're introducingthese like really far-fetched
ideas that like for the regularcivilian is like almost like I
(08:08):
don't want to say entertainment,but like you're being a
conspiracy theorist, there's no.
Like you're just throwing ideasout there to like see what hits
on TikTok and like you have noskin in the game because you
have nothing to lose and there'sno connection to this kid who's
a son, and yeah, that's where Ithink that TikTok probably gets
(08:30):
like a little bit negative inthat life.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more.
That's what I was thinking alllast week to see people coming
in.
I'm like you're using a tragedy, this poor kid, his family and
his parents I mean the thingsthat they're going through and
for you to come here, make sometype of again theory and blast
on social media and be likeRiley Shrain got in a car here's
(08:55):
why or here's the evidence ofthis and there's no real
evidence.
And you know they want to arguethat they're helping, but it's
like, yeah, you're helping, butalso I don't know.
That's the fine line where.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You should be introducing none of your own
thoughts.
You should be if you want toTikTok, live and be like.
This is what I'm doing inspreading awareness for a cause.
Awesome, because probably thathelps that like.
If it weren't for TikTok, I'mnot convinced that this case
would have become a nationalnews story Correct, which is
(09:28):
awesome, because then you'regetting more resources, blah,
blah, blah.
Great news.
We love that.
But then, once you startintroducing your own theories,
it's like what position ofauthority.
You have no idea what you'retalking about.
Oh, you paused a police cam, ablurry police cam footage.
You paused it at the very, veryend and you're like he's not in
(09:50):
the video, he's not on thesidewalk and there's a car right
there.
The only explanation is that hegot in the car.
It's like no, do you think thatthe police didn't think about
that?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I know, and they're like you can hear the audio.
He's saying get in, slow itdown, and then he's gone.
It's like man, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
And to be totally honest, that could have happened
.
And then they like there's somuch that we don't know he could
have.
A lot of things could havehappened from that police body
cam footage to him gettingeither put in a river or falling
in a river.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Right Cause that's also where a big homeless camp
is.
And then you have one guy onTikTok talking about how he 100%
didn't fall in.
He got to the homeless camp,got jumped, whatever, taken
advantage of.
When he was in that state ofminds something happened where
they killed him or whatever andthen toss him in the river, and
(10:50):
it's something that we'llprobably never know.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, yeah.
One thing that I thought wasinteresting about the body cam
footage is like those theoriesof like oh he just like
drunkenly stumbled into ahomeless camp and was just like
I'm lost, like someone help meis and then put himself in a
position to get jumped, If youlike the police footage where he
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like is walking straight.
He addresses the cop formally,is very like there's no slur in
his speech.
He's like tightened up from thelast time we saw him.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And everybody who's partied knows that when you see
a cop you're adrenaline spikes,and so he had enough awareness
to see that police officer andgo all right, I got to dial it
in here because if I keepstumbling around I'm going to
get arrested, and so he wouldn'thave put him.
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He had at least enoughwherewithal to not just like
meander into like somewheredangerous.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Right, you can even hear his footsteps as he's
approaching the cop.
Just how heavy and loud theywere because people were saying
he wasn't that messed up.
I'm like no, listen to hisfootsteps.
When he was approaching thatcop car, that dude was stumbling
, yeah.
And of course you see a cop andyou're like how are you doing?
Have a good night, and that'sit, and you move forward, yeah.
So when people are like no, hewasn't that messed up, I'm like
(12:19):
no, you can't say that based onthat five second interaction
with the police.
But to your point too, the prosof TikTok right, it got a lot
of exposure and I don't think itwould have been as big of a
national probably worldwide newsstory without social media.
They pulled out two other deadbodies in the river this week.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I was just going to say that.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
This river has a lot of dead bodies, for whatever
reason.
Dre saw one one time when shewas taking photos by the river
and a guy was pulling out a deadbody and it's like known the
Cumberland River to have deadbodies in there.
Clearly they pulled out twothis week just looking for him.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, wow, that's traumatizing.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
But yeah, it's terrible and so sad for the
family.
They probably like, even ifthey didn't find his body for
the next 30, 40 years, you'restill holding on to that hope
that he's alive.
Right, you have to hold on tothat 1%.
Now it's just like it's final,but hopefully they're able to
move forward as best they can.
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And one thing that a lot ofpeople were talking about are
his friends at the bars and howterrible they are and they
should have been with him.
And this is a scenario thatI've kind of played back and try
to put myself in.
When you go out with a group ofbuddies like that, I mean, I
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don't know, andrew, what do youthink?
Like these guys are fratbrothers in college, been
partying for a while.
I gotta imagine that almost ona nightly basis when these guys
go out, they get split up atsome point and it just happens
that they end up together at theend of the night the next
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morning.
So I'm having a tough timeimmediately being like oh, those
friends were terrible, totally.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I mean, you're a senior.
They're seniors in a fraternityat a massive, the biggest state
school, I'm pretty sure inMissouri it's a huge.
I grew up in Michigan, so it'slike I related it to Michigan
State.
A senior fraternity brother atMSU is or Mizzou or whatever
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university.
You're a professional partier.
You are well versed in drinking, partying, going out that's
kind of a very common occurrence.
And so when you look at yourbuddy outside the bar you just
got kicked out of the bar youlook at your buddy and you say,
(15:04):
hey, man, I'm going to go backto the hotel and I'll catch up
with you guys later.
The friend doesn't evenprobably think for a second
because he's so now.
Ideally you would think thisisn't Mizzou.
You don't know where you are.
(15:25):
You're clearly very intoxicated.
This is an unfamiliar territory.
I'm going to come with you andjust make sure you get back to
the hotel.
But they're also drinking.
We can't put expectations onhis frat brothers to make sound
decisions when everyone's drunk.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Even the hotel was two blocks from Broadway.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It was straight up the road there, the opposite
direction of where he went.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
It's tough to be like man.
They're such terrible friends.
I do find it weird that it Eventhen I guess I don't know if I
do it took so long for them tofigure it out that he was
missing, even if you go home.
Listen, I've partied a lot inmy life.
I have partied since highschool, college.
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After college I had thecraziest buddies.
When you go out with a group ofguys, some guys don't come home
that night.
If he wasn't there when theygot home maybe they thought, hey
, he's with a girl or he'ssomewhere.
Obviously you want to try andget in touch with them to figure
it out.
Yeah, that's just part of it.
(16:40):
Like you said, to be in adifferent territory, to be in
Nashville, tennessee, and it wasonly 8 or 9 pm at night.
You get all these guys at thebar and you got one guy Maybe
he's the guy that leaves on hisown all the time.
There's always a buddy likethat.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Or maybe it's the guy who's like the sloppy guy and
you're like all right, well,he's going to figure it out.
I'm going to go back upstairs,I'm talking to these girls and
I'm with my buddies and it's 9o'clock.
Hotel's right there.
I mean, who knows what wasgoing through any of their minds
, obviously hindsight's 20-20.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Or the total opposite .
It sounds like from what hisparents said.
This is abnormal behavior.
Maybe he was the reallyresponsible friend who always
has his shit together and you'relike oh, certainly he's not
going to, he's always fine.
(17:33):
He's always fine.
He just had a little bit toomuch to drink.
He'll be able to get home.
He's the responsible friend,you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, either way, they're probably all kicking
themselves.
Yeah, obviously that's reallysad.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I mean those poor kids they're going to get.
I mean their life is nowaltered forever.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Forever and I was thinking about that so much.
I'm like I want to know what mybuddies would do.
So I'm going to call one of myhigh school buddies, one of my
college buddies and a boy that Ihave now in that situation and
see what they would do.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
High school buddy is a deep pull.
We need Wait, wait, wait Beforeyou call.
We need context on who thesepeople are, how high school
We'll start.
We'll go one by one and thenyou can call them High school
buddy.
How often do you talk to him?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, all these guys I still talk to on a regular
basis.
These are all guys who I'vepartied a lot with.
So my high school buddy knowingeach other for a very long time
small town, live on the streetnext to one another, so he's
known me for most of my life.
College buddy played soccerwith him.
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He was my roommate, he livedacross the hall from me and he's
one of my best friends still tothis day.
And then one of my good friendshere in Nashville who I've been
out with a bunch prior to megoing sober.
So we'll start with.
I know exactly how this isgoing to play out too.
I guarantee my high schoolbuddy is going to be like well,
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buddy, I would have left you, orlike I would have expected to
be left.
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
There he is.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
How are we doing over there?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
We're doing good.
You're alive on In the Boots.
I've been waiting for my.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
In the Boots debut.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Here it is.
It's on March Madness Friday.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
It doesn't get better than that it doesn't, you know,
not even at work, just gettingready to wash some hoop.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Are we going to get you in trouble?
Right now Are you supposed tobe at work?
No, all right, no who?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
works.
No one works anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, all right.
Well, go.
Huskies, we have a scenario foryou here and I'm just going to
ask you a scenario and I want toknow what you would do in this
situation.
Okay, I mean, we've been inthis situation.
Probably not a good situation.
Yeah, say we go out, okay, witha group of buddies, or maybe
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it's just me and you.
We are in a new city and youknow drinking all day no, not us
, never.
It gets around eight o'clock,nine pm and I'm intoxicated, I'm
really drunk and I get kickedout of a bar.
(20:26):
You're at the bar with me, gotanother group of friends at that
bar.
They walk me out of the door.
What are you doing in thatsituation?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I'm staying at the bar and having myself a night.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I knew you were going to say that, yeah.
Febby did that to me that'shappening to you All, right,
yeah.
Yeah, we're talking about theRiley Strain situation.
Do you know anything about that?
I don't, oh, okay, yeah, I mean, I mean I know various issues
that visit me with these things,but indeed I think there is a
difference between the fact thatthey are from Indian descent or
just about.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I mean, I've been roaming around Nashville drunk
as a skunk by myself and I haveno idea where I'm going.
There was a lot of alcohol inme.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah, so that's why I'm calling you.
I'm calling Horn.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I don't mean to get off track, but I also just found
out Kate Middleton's missing.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Is that, yeah, is that like a?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Did you know that?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I saw TikTok stuff on like images that were doctored.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
She's supposed to be found.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, Okay, I just found this out.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Oh really.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Oh, I didn't know that.
I literally just found this out.
I was like, well, that's prettybig.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
They like posted photos a couple of days ago, but
it doesn't really look like her.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Okay, maybe she's not found All right.
Well, that's for anotherpodcast episode.
I appreciate you taking thecall.
You got it, buddy.
All right, go Huskies.
He's going to say he'll, Idon't know, this one's going to
Back in the day.
You would say same thing.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Vote for Donnelly.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Vote for Donnelly.
There he is.
Al Horne, you're live on In theBooth.
Don't say anything too crazyover there.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
How's everyone doing today?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
There you go, pg rated.
I like it.
We're doing good.
How are you doing?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I got to keep it okay for the kids Can't complain.
It's 30 degrees but it's sunny.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
All right, and tell the people where you're calling
in from today.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Just outside of Boston Mass.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
All right, there he is Wicked cold up there.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
It's wicky cold, but we live here for a reason.
We appreciate the cold and whenthe sun's out we're psyching.
Put on some country musicdriving right now, but I got the
AirPods in so we're being safe,don't worry.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
There we go.
That's what I love about NewEnglanders.
All right, here's the deal.
I'm going to give you ascenario and you got Are you
doing Sam Cat?
No, sam Cat's actually out townthis week.
Okay, I understand.
I won't interrupt you anymore.
I'm going to give you ascenario and you're going to
tell me what you would do inthis situation.
(23:00):
A completely honest answer here.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
I don't know anything else, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
All right.
So me and you, we're going outfor the night.
Oh Jesus, we're partying hard.
We're in a different city,we've got a group of guys with
us, all right and drinking allday.
It gets to about eight or ninePM, we're out at the bar and
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everybody's there, and then Iget kicked out of the bar.
I'm a little.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Is this a hypothetical or are we talking
about something that's?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
happened to me?
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
I knew you'd be a good call,and so I get kicked out of the
bar.
I say I'm going back or I'mleaving, and then everybody else
is still at the bar.
What are you doing in thatsituation?
Speaker 4 (23:50):
I'm walking back with you, you are.
Questions asked.
Yeah, no, questions asked Allright.
Again, I'm 37 with kids.
Now I look at things different.
When I was 19 in college, I'mnot sure if I was walking back
with you.
So things have changed,perspective changed.
But right now, if we're goingout, the responsible thing is to
(24:12):
make your heated, clearly notin the right mind if someone's
telling you you can't be in thebar.
I'm walking you home and we'regoing to make the best of the
night and probably end upsomewhere else and it's going to
be fun.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, I mean, that's a great answer and I was calling
you.
I'm like if I had asked themthis back in the day when we're
in college, I feel like I'd geta different answer now 100%.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Yep, the old me.
Maybe I was still staying atthe bar and wishing you luck on
your way and I'd catch up withyou in the morning.
But nowadays, yeah, we'd headback and you know what?
I think everyone else would endup following us and we'd go
figure out something else to do.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Right, but back in the day, when we're in college,
it's like a battlefield outthere.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
No, you can't keep track of everyone and yeah,
things are a little foggy.
You're in the moment.
Yeah, it's tough to say backthen, but I'd probably lean
towards every man for themselvesand we'll talk about it the
next morning, laugh about it,but everyone's kind of going
their own way and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
For sure, All right, that's a good answer.
Have you heard about the RileyStrain kid?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
You haven't either.
That's crazy, is it justbecause we're in Nashville?
So a kid two weeks ago inNashville, oh man, yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Oh, that's, tragic.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yeah, there's been similar stories in the past.
In Boston, if you talk down inthe waterfront, there's been,
over the last like five or 10years, similar stories where men
in their you know 25 to 35years old have gone missing.
There's actually like sometheory about it, but it's
absolutely tragic and terriblefor that to happen to anyone.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I know it's so terrible.
I kept on like trying to putmyself in that situation and now
obviously everybody iscritiquing his friends and
saying they're terrible friends.
They didn't go with him, andI'm just like man it's?
You never know what state ofmind you're in and you don't
know the personalities of thosekids.
And I was thinking over here,like you know, yeah, it's just
so hard to put yourself in thatsituation, but we've all kind of
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been there, which is crazy.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Absolutely.
And you know when you're goingout in a social environment,
like you're not in the mostresponsible state of mind right,
like that's not when you'remaking your best decisions,
whether that's what you're doingsupportively for a friend or
what you're doing yourself, andthat's part of the problem going
out Alcohol is involved and youknow that type of stuff.
(26:46):
So, and unfortunately, in thisscenario it's like the worst
case scenario that can happen.
But you know there's risk withgoing out and it's you know it's
awful when you hear aboutsomething that's just happening.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
It is.
It is Well, all right.
I appreciate taking the call.
That's why you can't get abetter friend than this guy
right here.
You got a very different answerthan Cooper did.
I knew that was going to be thecase.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Oh, you didn't tell me he was involved.
Yeah, like I said, kids willchange you.
So how I look at things nowfrom a responsibility and
different perspective than backin the day, and that's where me
and Cooper are different, right.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Things will change for him.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Absolutely.
Well, I agree.
All right, buddy, I'll catch upwith you later.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
All right, don't forget to vote for Donnelly.
See ya, bye.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Kids will change you and just like, even like life
experience, like now movingforward in my life, like I'm
going to be so hyper aware of,like Lily's in Vegas this
weekend and I'm like you need tobe dialed in on, like going it
makes going out not as funbecause there's malicious people
(27:57):
out there and there's just suchevil in the world that there's
the like your buddy said, likethere's a risk with partying and
like that risk is becoming as Iget older and I mean I'm only
27.
Like that risk feels like it'sjust getting exponentially
greater and greater and greater.
Yes and for not a lot of gain.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
It's not worth it.
Yeah, and it's almost like youhave to be naive.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Right To be going out like that and we were naive,
yeah.
And as you get older, you startseeing all the bad and things
and the brisk and before, likeyou said there's.
You know nothing else reallymatters either.
You're like this is my life,this is going to be the greatest
night ever, and you're not evenlooking towards tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
So it's sad and definitely as a dad now, it
definitely breaks my heart evenmore.
So we're thinking about theirfamily and we're glad that they
got at least some closure here.
But anyways, moving on, lastweek I was training with the
SEALs.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, dude, I want to hear all about this.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
It was wild.
It was wild.
I worked with Paneray watches.
Have you ever heard of them?
Speaker 4 (29:06):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
They're luxury watch brands and they do a really cool
job of collaborating withcertain types of companies or
groups like the SEALs, and theymade a limited edition watch
that is a Navy SEAL watch.
It's like submersible watch.
They sold 25 in the US, 25overseas, and if you bought the
(29:29):
watch part, it's a package.
It's called an experience.
So you buy the watch and youget this experience.
The experience was to cometrain with the Navy SEALs for
three days.
I didn't buy the watch, I wasjust invited to go down there.
A couple other guys likeMichael Chandler, sick, yeah.
So it was sweet.
We got to do all that fun stuffand as soon as we get dropped
(29:51):
off, they put us in all of ourgear and they give us a partner.
They bring us out to this hugefield, hundreds of thousands of
acres they have out there, andthey're like all right, here's a
compass, we're going to giveyou guys five minutes and you're
going to go south.
You're going to find trucks.
(30:13):
We're giving you five minutesto get a head start and then you
have an hour to get to thosetrucks and if you're spotted by
any of the SEALs that are out inthe woods right now, you have
to go back to the start.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Oh, so you're not in.
It's on an open field.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
No, no woods, Like there's some open parts to it
Kind of like, and there's somereally thick woods open part and
like a corn maze, almost typething.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
It was wild, so you have to get to the.
The objective is get to a truck.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah, and, and under an hour.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
And under an hour.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
And are you doing anything once you get to the
truck, or does it just get tothe truck.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
No, you just got to get to the truck without being
spotted.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Are you paired with a person who knows what they're
doing or no?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
No, it's all guys from the experience, so these
are guys that just bought thewatches.
Just rich just rich, just richguys.
Yeah, so we go straight intothe woods I'm talking about the
thickest woods you've ever seenin your entire life.
Like I was like to the pointwhere I was getting really
scared because I'm like we'renever going to make it out of
this.
Like we had to, like, jump onbranches and trees to get
through and create a path, andit was like you're walking in
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water, and one thing I learnedabout being a Navy SEAL, I guess
, is that you just got to beused to being wet all the time.
We had wet socks and shoes forthree days straight.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
And so that was.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Did you make it?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
We made it.
Yeah, we were the second team.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
No, you didn't get spotted at all.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
We got spotted right when we came out of the woods
because we were so loud.
He's like the guy was standingthere and he's like waiting for
us to walk out and he's like Icould see that tree shaking back
there Cause I was standing.
I like went up the branches tolook to see how much farther we
had in the woods and he's likeall you could see was like the
tree going back and forth.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Oh, so then you had to go back again, so we had to
start, yeah, Shoot yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
But then we made it an under hour and we were second
place for that.
We also did like physicaltraining, which was cool Waking
up at four in the morninggetting sprayed with hoses,
doing farmers, carries, pushups,burpees, all that fun stuff Did
some shooting, which is fun,and then we also got sent on a
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mission taking like two days oftraining and again similar going
through the woods, with thistime we had paintball guns and
the seals had paintball guns andwe had to go with our whole
group.
So I was like leading the teamthrough the woods, like trying
to be stealth mode and walkingthrough all this water, which
I'm like there's no alligatorsout here and everybody's like,
(32:48):
yeah, no, there are.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
But I didn't even think about it until it was done
.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Like we were like laying on the ground next to all
these swamps, and one of theguys that was with me was like
yeah, that's why I was nervouswhen we were just sitting there
laying next to the swamp, Ididn't want to go in there and I
didn't even think twice aboutit.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
You have a paintball gun to defend yourself.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, and then the last day we went to the Navy
Seal Museum, which was supercool, and then we did an
obstacle course.
We did the training on thebeach with the raft and the
water.
The seal was like all right,I'm giving you guys 30 seconds
to go in the water and I betternot see any of you guys.
So we had the raft, so we hadto run out to the water, flip
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the raft over, go underneath theraft.
We can smash with waves.
This fun stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, it sounds like a blast, dude.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
And then I got strapped to the side of a
helicopter and I was so nervousfor that.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
When you say strapped to the side of a helicopter, I
literally strapped to the sideof a helicopter.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
With what Bungie course One strap One, like one
strap that goes around yourwaist.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
What is it attached to?
It's attached to.
It's like a seatbelt.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
It just clips in the middle.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
To the exterior of the helicopter.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, you sit on the outside of the helicopter on a
bench.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Oh whoa, that's pretty sick.
So Was that cool or scary?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
It was cool, but I was way more scared than I
thought it was cool, Like again,that's another thing like the
older you get and I feel like Isee helicopters crashing all the
time and military chopperscrashing.
So I was super nervous becausepeople were talking about maybe
jumping out of the helicoptersthat were going to have to do
that and I was like, ooh, Idon't know about that and I'm
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like I just had a baby.
He's at home, he's three monthsold.
I don't want to get in ahelicopter crash.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Is there like an unsubscribe option on this trip?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
So the helicopter comes around the field and it
lands, and then one of the sealsis like all right, line up from
tallest to shortest and I wasthe third tallest person and
they went all right, one, two,three, four, five, you, five,
you're going to start at thehelicopter.
I was like shit.
So immediately I'm like allright, I'm in the first group
for the helicopter.
And then we walk over there andI'm like super nervous and then
(35:03):
the guy points at me.
He goes, you're going first, ofcourse.
I was like fuck.
So I didn't really have time tothink and I'm just standing
there and we got to go over thesafety brief and just telling us
obviously you got to stay low,the blades have a lot of flex to
them, so don't stand up tall orelse you get your head taken
off.
And make sure as soon as youget on the bench you just sit
(35:24):
there, you slide on and if youhear the engine go out, it gets
really silent.
That means the engine's dead orthe engine gave out.
And then you just got to tuckyour legs into the left.
If we start spinning like crazy, tuck your legs in.
And they're saying all thisstuff Like we had to tell you
this stuff, and I'm like Jesus.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Cutie.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
And then I get on, and right before I got on I said
to one of the seals I'm like,do we have to do this?
And he's like, no, you don'thave to.
But this is like the coolestpart of the whole week.
And I'm like, oh man, he's likeit'll be fine.
And so I just really basicallyjust, you know, stopped being a
(36:07):
little bee and just hopped onthe plane and then just strapped
on and I was just grabbing tothe bars as hard as I possibly
could.
And so they just like take youaround and like they're just
driving, yeah, for like 10minutes and the guy was like,
well, we probably won't go overthe ocean because we don't have
any water gear If somethinghappens and we go down for a
landing.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Dude, they were totally just pulling your chain.
There's no way that it's that.
It's a 10 minute helicopterride.
They're the Navy SEALs.
I'm assuming that they werejust like trying to psych you
out.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yeah well, they did a damn good job of it because
he's like we're not going overthe ocean and then we're over
the ocean the entire time andthen anytime he would turn
towards my side.
I'm parallel with the ground,just hanging on by that one
strap and just, and I washolding as tight as I could to
the outside of that helicopter.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
See, I am the opposite of.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
You love that.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
A Navy SEAL, but I think that that would be so cool
.
I don't think I would be scaredat all to do that part.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Really.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Though, like, my brain would immediately go to
like when I'm in the woods, likewhat's in here, I would
immediately be scared of thecrocodiles, but I could get
strapped to that helicopter andI would be like because I would
just put I have full, 100% faiththat nothing's going to happen
Because they're the Navy SEALs.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I know.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I'm just like oh, you guys are, you're the best pilot
in the world to drive thishelicopter.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Something that did come for me was when I looked at
that pilot.
He was like the most pilotlooking person in the entire
world.
He was like mid 60s 50s.
He had like bright white hair,Like he just looked like he
would be a pilot for any movieand I was like, OK, this guy's
awesome, he's like dude.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I've built my entire career on driving this
helicopter into war, exactly.
You're going to be fine.
We're going to do a 10 minutelittle joy ride around.
You're just going to be just injoy.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I'm not going to make the biggest air of my career
and kill a civilian on this trip?
Speaker 1 (38:11):
That would be yeah, he's probably like let's just
get this over with because it'sexciting for me.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
But it was a nice charity ride for him.
But that was it.
It was awesome, glad to be back, glad to be back in Nashville
and real quick for the people.
Why are you leaving us?
Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, so I'm leaving Nashville, You're back in
Nashville, I'm about to head out.
My wife Lily got a job.
She's been in PA school for thewhat Thank you, thank you.
She's been in PA school atLipscomb for the last three
years, and so our two and a halfyears however long the program
is whatever and she got a joboffer in Grand Rapids, which is
(38:51):
where we grew up Grand Rapids,michigan, and it's kind of like
a dream job for her, which Iknow sounds like a corny, but it
really is.
It's exactly what she wanted tobe doing.
She was kind of like, if Iwould have asked her six months
ago what's your dream scenariofor your first job?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
This would be it.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
This would be it Hell yeah, yeah, we took the jump.
I'm sad to leave.
It's super bittersweet.
I've never done anything that'sthis bittersweet.
We've moved from Michigan toCalifornia, to California, to
here and now back to Michigan,and this is definitely the
hardest move.
We've built a pretty coolcommunity here and it's been a
(39:30):
great couple of years, but I'malso excited to get home.
And we're going to be.
Both our families are there andwe're probably going to be
having kids in the next coupleof years, and so being close to
grandparents was kind of a goal,and so it made sense.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, that's huge, that's awesome, that's exciting,
and I feel like the quality oflife is going to be so much
better just being close to yourfamily.
Yeah, making a family of yourown.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
It'll be a little bit of a slower pace.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Nashville is awesome, but it's a fast city and,
living in LA for five years andthen here for four, it's been
nine years of really fast pace.
So I'm excited to just chilland we're keeping our house here
and just renting it to mysister-in-law, so it'll be cool
to be able to actually, like wecan utilize it.
(40:22):
So I'm hoping to get back downhere at least a couple times a
year just for festivities andfun stuff like CMA Fest, or they
do that Music City Grand Prixevery year that we've been going
to Nice.
So stuff like that, we'll beback in town.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
All right.
Well, don't be a stranger.
We appreciate everything you'vedone in the podcast.
All listeners love producerAndrew.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
We'll see you soon and everybody else, enjoy the
rest of your day.
We'll see you next week.
Team on three.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Team DEC.
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