The Greatest Reality Show of All Time?

Are we watching the greatest reality show of all time right now?! Shawn & SamCat seem to think so. Our diverse listener base from Slab City, California to Washington D.C., and Colorado Springs, Colorado gets a slice of the everyday laughs and front row seat as they tackle the serious and surreal world of current events. 

An attempted assassination on Trump sets the stage for exploring conspiracy theories and public reaction. They discuss how these dramatic events shape political opinions and the election atmosphere, making sense of the bizarre reality-show-like moments that punctuated the RNC, complete with celebrities and unexpected drama. They reflect on the humanizing impact it had on the political landscape and public perception. From the extreme actions of both political sides to the media's role in amplifying division, they dive deep into the convoluted state of public discourse. Nostalgia hits as they reminisce about simpler political times and SamCat proposes an innovative idea for voting which might save the world!

Ending on a lighter note, Shawn & SamCat rank their all-time favorite reality shows! Tune in for a blend of humor, insight, and definitely not a political podcast but thought-provoking discussion that promises to keep you engaged from start to finish! Team on 3!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:10):
we are back in the booth.
I'm sean booth and thank youguys for tuning in.
It's been a while.
We're excited to be here andmaybe you are in slab city,
california, today.
Maybe you're listening inwashington dc or maybe you're
out in Colorado Springs,colorado.
Thanks for having us on yourradio waves this morning.
We're in Nashville, tennessee,and to my left she is wearing

(00:36):
flip-flops and a shirt thatbuttons down with matching
shorts.
It's a matching set.
We've got set Kat on the set.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Okay, that was a lot of alliteration for you.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, that kind of looks like a Charlie Sheen shirt
, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Okay, well, I will take that as a compliment.
Matching sets are in.
Matching sets are the fact thatyou said matching set.
Even if they don't see me,women, at at least, will be able
to picture that in their head.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I think they're going to picture yoga pants and a
sports bra.
That's the only matching setthat I know.
Well, that's because you workin a gym, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Matching sets.
Just imply that they match andthey came together.
That's that's it.
Okay, whatever variation ofthat if you will, all right.
Okay, whatever variation ofthat, if you will All right.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Well, we're back.
We took a little vacation, alittle hiatus.
It feels good to be back instudio here.
And, sam Cat, what have youbeen doing lately?

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Honestly, I have been off the road the most I've been
off the road since the fall of2022.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
I've enjoyed it.
I've been doing a lot of houseprojects.
I have absolutely no idea whatI'm doing, but it's pretty
exciting and it's reallyfreaking cool to build things or
to like see things come to lifeand something that you own and
then I know that I can use forforever.
And it's kind of relaxing toknow that I'm not going to move
out because my lease is endingand I have to like I never feel
like I really invested inapartments when I didn't own and

(02:00):
now I feel like I really can.
It's a cool feeling.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
It's a good feeling.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
I am turning into an old woman for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
That's right Getting that equity.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
I love it.
Yes, equity, but also just I'mtrying.
I'm terrible.
I feel like you're probably notgood at this either, but do you
have a green thumb?

Speaker 2 (02:15):
You see these hands, Sean you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (02:17):
These rough manly hands.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I've got a.
I'd grade my thumbs a C.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
I want to be better and I am really trying to learn
better and I think that I'vemade a little bit of progress.
But I am by no means good and Ijust want.
I want to have a garden.
It doesn't have to be huge,just like a little garden.
I want to have plants that arethriving.
But I'm just, I'm not good yet.
I'm working on it, I follow thedirections and I kill
everything.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Did you say green thumb, yeah green thumb.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Okay yeah, green thumb.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, you're talking about planting.
Yes, okay, I was thinking thatwe're talking about just being a
handy thumb in general,handyman.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
No, I'm handy.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
No, my green thumb is probably a D minus.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah, okay.
Well, I'm a little better thanyou, but not by much.
But I mean handy.
Yeah, sure, I'm making that upas I go.
Being crafty, being creative, Ilove that.
But the green thumb portion ofmaking a house a home and having
things that are alive, in yourhome.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, still working on that.
I'll report back.
I uh, every plant that I havein my house dies instantly.
I mean, well, I had a snakeplant that lasted almost three,
four years just died this pastmonth.
Um, and those are the easiestones to maintain okay, I, I want
to.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
I want to talk to whoever said that, because I
have had two snake plants nowand my second one is on its way
out.
They're like oh, with yourlifestyle, you should just get a
snake plant.
You can almost just ignore itand it will be fine you want it
once a month okay, I do, I doall.
That's what I'm saying.
I follow the directions rightnow.
My snake plant there's onevertical, the remainder are

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horizontal.
Yeah, I've, I've changed thewindows, I've like the light
exposure, I've watered it less,I've watered it more.
I've done all of the the tiktoktricks and trends.
I can't keep anything.
I'm working on it.
But the snake plant and thesucculents that everybody says,
oh, it's so easy.
No, yeah.
I have other plants that arethriving that are neither of

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those categories and they'redoing better.
So riddle me that.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, I'm right there with you.
The snake plant is currentlyout on the porch.
Try to revive it.
Um and not yeah, might throw insome Viagra at the bottom of
the soil.
We'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
It works for me, it'll work for him.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Dad jokes, but I feel like as I get older I should
become handier, especially if Ihave a kid.
So it's like my dad is the mosthandyman in the world, where he
literally flies down here tohelp me with projects.
He flew down here well lastweek, but before that a few
months ago just, uh, do stuffaround megan's house.

(04:50):
Yeah, and we talked about that,but it's like at what age I'm
like still waiting to just allof a sudden know how to do
everything nope, I.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
there is a audio trend.
I mean it's not a trend anymore, but I like an audio from memes
, gifs, reels, whatever you'regonna make with it that talks
about just like if you're notrich, you don't have the luxury
of not knowing how to be handy.
Like if you have to repurposeall of your stuff that you
already have because you can'tafford a new coffee table.
Well, you got to startsomewhere.
Like you got to learn it.
There's no magic pill, there'sno age that all of a sudden you

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wake up and know how to dothings, and I feel like I
listened to that and it inspiredme.
I was like you know what?
Who cares if I ruin thisbedside table that I've had
since college?
Well then, okay, but I might aswell try and guess what.
I fucking dominated it and itlooks great.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, you did restained.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
it did the whole nine , got new hardware on it.
It looks beautiful in my livingroom right now and I was proud.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Did you make a tick tock video of the process?
No, I didn't.
Okay, you should have.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Maybe next time.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Well, if you haven't heard, a lot's been going on in
the past couple weeks.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Which category?

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I feel like right now we are in a front row seat to
the greatest reality televisionshow of all time.
Like the last couple weeks willgo down in history, yes, there
will be books, there will bemovies and it all comes down to
the 2024 presidential campaignand race.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
What an interesting time we are living in a full
episode of Black Mirror.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
A full, full episode and we're not political.
We're not a political podcast.
We're not afraid to talk aboutanything.
We're going to talk about itjust to see what's happened here
in the past two weeks.
Sam Gat Two weeks ago, not evenOkay.
President Trump attemptedassassination, Correct Within a
millimeter of his life.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Where we've seen the videos.
If he didn't turn that way, hewouldn't be here right now, and
I truly believe that the countrywould probably be in a civil
war.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
I was going to ask you what do you think?
Because I mean, I don't want tolet my imagination run too wild
, but if the outcome wouldn'thave been him surviving, what do
you really think?
There would have been a civilwar?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
I think it would have been absolute chaos.
I think every single gun storethat following day would have
been sold out and I think workwould be on pause.
And I heard a political expertsay that that bullet missing him
saved America for like the next40 or 60 years something crazy
like that.
The outrage of what would havehappened would have been

(07:23):
astronomical, of what would havehappened would have been
astronomical.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, I mean.
Yes, I agree with him.
I don't know why 40 to 60 yearswas the exact numbers he gave,
but that was a little once Ireally started to think about
what could have happened.
I had to kind of check out fora bit, because it was terrifying
and okay to go back to beinghandy and to having a garden and
all this stuff.
Call me a conspiracy theorist,but I need to be able to provide

(07:53):
for myself.
And like what if I mean I knowI'm going way far, but like if
something like that could havehappened would have been chaos,
you would have been locked down.
It would have been maybe someversion of another pandemic.
What about food?
What about heat?
What about this?
Like I didn't have any of thesethings and it's like I don't
want to be a doomsday prepperbut at the same time, do I
really want to be caught out inthe middle of the worst storm of

(08:16):
my entire existence withnothing Right?
Like that would be on me?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, and we don't know what would have happened,
but I'm pretty sure that itwouldn't have gone back to
normal Monday morning to work.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I think we can all agree on that that's a
terrifying thing to really thinkabout.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Terrifying that close , and then we could talk about
that whole thing for the entireepisode.
There's obviously like let'sput on our tin foil hats the
conspiracies with that.
How the hell do you let that kid, who looks like he's been in
his basement playing Dungeonsand Dragons his whole life uh,
130 yards within the mostpowerful man in the world to get

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off a shot?
It's insane.
We know we now have videos thathe was identified as being
sketchy an hour before he wasidentified as a threat, 10
minutes before they still lethim out on stage and the sniper
apparently had him in his range,like all that stuff.
I think he had a little helpand I also think that we are

(09:11):
never gonna know the truth.
It's gonna be like jfk we'llnever find out what actually
happened I agree.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
I think that we are so good at well humans in
general, I feel like, are sogood at believing what they want
to believe that it almostdoesn't even matter what the
facts are, because it's the wayit's painted.
So we could look at the samesituation and see and read all
the same facts, but ourinterpretation of, oh well, he
didn't really mean that, oh,there's no way they would let

(09:39):
him do that, because I likeintrinsically believe that they
would never let that happen.
I'm not saying that I do.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
And I'm not saying that I don't.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
I'm just saying that, like the human, this is, this
also feels beyond a reality show.
But isn't a reality show alsojust a psychological experiment?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Like I just feel like so much emotion and life
experience and whatever they'vebeen brought up and what they're
subjected to, what they consume, who they follow If they've
been brought up and what they'resubjected to, what they consume
, who they follow if they'veeven looked at any of the
evidence or looked at any ofthese facts that you've listed

(10:15):
all play into like the entiretyof this election campaign and
that is, I feel like, why we'reso divided.
There's so much emotion and justnot a lot of facts being looked
at, a lot of facts beinginterpreted.
If that even makes beinginterpreted, yeah, if that even
makes sense, right?

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, do you know what I mean?
Am I making sense?
Okay, okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
I just feel like it's strange to see the exact same
thing as someone else next to meand they're just like oh well,
obviously it's this, this andthis, where I think almost the
exact opposite in my gutinstinct and I'm like, wait,
yeah, I mean, and you could beright, and I just never thought
of it that way and I just feellike this whole election process

(10:51):
has been an experiment right inthat yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
And then people who are like it was staged.
I'm like how do you actuallybelieve that it was staged?
The best sniper in the historyof the universe could not have
made that shot and guaranteedthat it would just clip his ear.
All right, his ear just as apiece of your body, and oh yeah,

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by the way, we're just gonnahave innocent civilians killed
in the process, which is theworst part about all of it,
right?
So for anybody to argue that atstage, I'm like you need to
just take a step back and maybelook at the whole thing.
I know there's a lot of sketchythings going on, but that is
seems like it's impossible to do, like maybe if I was standing
this close to you with a gun, Icould clip your ear yeah, let's

(11:38):
not try that we're not gonna tryit, no, but uh, I mean there's
videos of bullets goingeverywhere and now you got
theories of a second shooter andI mean it's, it's just a whole
mess, but again we'll never know.
And america was literally savedby a millimeter okay, so then
after that, what happened?

Speaker 3 (11:58):
so that was two weeks ago two weeks ago, it's old
news by now yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
After that we then have the RNC.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Hell yeah, brother.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
And we have Hulk Hogan, which I was going to say.
You got Hulk Hogan on stageripping his shirt off and
America's going wild, Like whatis going on right now.
It's a reality show.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Exactly that's what I'm trying to say we are in a
black mirror.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
I did not watch the rnc.
I'm not going to sit here andpretend like I did, but
obviously I saw the clips thateverybody saw on social media uh
, between hulk hogan and thenalso amber rose.
Amber rose did great, okay, Iwhat a surprise guest though uh,
someone who's in the past beenlike violently opposed to
anything, yeah, even republicans, not even trump.

(12:45):
Um, I guess it just goes.
I don't know, maybe that wasjust in the script of this
reality show they're writing forus I have no idea um, I was
very surprised.
I wasn't as surprised to seehulk.
I mean, that seems pretty onbrand yeah, no and then, who
else did you list, uh, danielwhite, who was?

Speaker 2 (13:01):
like screaming into the mic.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
He was fired up he, he was fired up up there.
He's dana white, so that onedidn't surprise me, I guess, is
what I'm saying.
I'm like, yeah, that that I wasalso just thinking about the
people in this country that havebeen wearing ear bandages for
the last two weeks.
Those are my favorite, that'scrazy the extras, extras that
they paid to say it is wild.

(13:24):
I mean it's, I think it's funny.
Yeah, I'm like OK, guys, you doyou.
If that makes him feel betterthan sure Sure.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, you know like what are they Are you wearing a
bandage on your ear.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Go ahead, carol, you wear that bandage.
And then we'd be like, oh ear,and then you were wearing a
bandage.
And then people in town werejust like, yeah, did you hear?
Sean Booth got shot?
He's wearing a bandage.
What a pussy.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
That's what I mean.
The dude got shot.
He can't win it was onlybecause of his trump it was like
man, you can't win.
Talk about the thickest skin.
Oh my, he's got to have thethickest skin in the world.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I don't know how he does it Well, and not only him,
but his family, his children,his like.
Think about I mean, yeah, youhave a close relationship with
your dad.
I mean, yeah, you have a closerelationship with your dad, I
have a close relationship withmy dad.
There's plenty of people in theworld who do not, and it's just
like imagine having to take theheat of everything because of
what your dad does and you knowwhat.

(14:32):
Maybe they agree with everythinghe says and they also have
thick skin.
I don't know them Right, but Iam not envious of them.
That's a tough, tough place andit's not like Trump is a very
incognito last name, like youcould slide in and nobody would
notice.
Right, literallyinternationally now yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
And I think that that's why it was such a huge
deal for him, because he hasbeen obviously criticized more
than anybody in the planet foreight years.
Right, he has been coinedHitler and, like one of the
first things I thought of whenhe got shot, I'm like this is
because of the media things Ithought of when he got shot I'm
like this is because of themedia.
Yeah, this is because of themedia and the attacks that
they've had on him for years andyears that it's come down to
this where he almost got shot inthe head, where I think a lot
of people who are rational wereable to take a step back when

(15:16):
and they were just like liketheir heart I mean democrats,
republicans, your heart sinkswhen you hear, holy shit, trump
just got shot.
I think people were able tostep back and be like, oh, he's
human and also, by the way, thedude has been through hell and
back and he's still there.
That's where I think he got aton of support after that,
because people were able, justfor a minute, even if you're a

(15:38):
Democrat, most of them were like, holy shit, like that.
Okay, we crossed the line.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yes, of them were like holy shit, like that.
Okay, we crossed the line.
Yeah, yes, I mean I have a lotof see.
I saw the aftermath on socialmedia of it kind of being a
mixed bag, though there were somany people.
They're like oh sorry, I don'tfeel bad for this man that's
inside of violence and now allof a sudden he's getting reaping
what he sowed.
It's just like a lot of verydisconnected, like very not
human, like how you're saying soweird.
That is tough for me to look at.

(16:08):
Like I said, I feel like Istart doom scrolling and then I
have to just like kind of checkout for a bit.
But the thing that killed mewere people who had no remorse
for the person who was there atthe rally and they were like oh
sorry, I don't care that someonecaught a stray bullet who was
supporting this man and I'm likethat's tough for me to listen
to I'm like that dude alsopassed away covering his wife

(16:28):
and child to stay safe, liketalk about a protector and
someone who is obviously aprominent part in that family
household that is now foreveraltered.
And you go on the internet, youkeyboard warrior, and just be
like, oh well, sorry, I don'tfeel bad for this guy.
It's like, okay, well, whatabout his daughter that now no
longer has a father?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
right and a firefighter.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
So that guy if your house was burning down.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
You wouldn't want him showing up to protect you
because he would protect you ina second and he wouldn't think
about if you're a democrat orrepublican or at least you would
hope, not.
I mean, we don't know the guy,but I'm saying yeah chances are
he'd show up and do his job foryou and his daughter and his
wife had to sit there and watchwhile it took like 10 minutes,
obviously all the chaos going on.
He just got shot in the head.

(17:10):
He's laying there in thebleachers.
You have some guy who's tryingto administer cpr and the
daughter and the wife are justsitting there in complete shock
what do you do?

Speaker 3 (17:18):
I don't want to know, I don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
I'm starting to feel weird yeah, awful so it's awful
it's awful so that happens, butyou got the rnc wait wait, wait,
hold on, hold on.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
I gotta go back.
One more thing, because yousaid like the humanization of
like wow, this guy got shot madehim have all of this rushing in
support.
And I agree.
But I'd like to take it onestep further because I think the
real hook line sinker was whentrump stood up bleeding fight,
put his arm up in the air,american flag in the back social
security on him.

(17:47):
Like even Mark Zuckerberg saiddamn, damn, yeah, that's a
badass photo.
And I'm like yeah that was,that was historic.
I mean, I know, that sounds sodumb to say like that was
historic, but like that will bein history books for the
remainder of well, if we haveany earth left, probably the
most popular photo of all time.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
When it's all said and done, I don't I can't think
of any.
Think of another photo, I meanhistorically.
If you're talking about topfive photos, you would obviously
have like the twin towers goingdown getting hit by a plane.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
George Washington on the boat.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Is that a real photo?
Is that a drawing?
Oh, I don't know.
Well, I mean, isn't?

Speaker 3 (18:27):
it.
It's a drawing, yeah, but I Imean, but I'm saying that it's
like yeah that was all overhistory books when we were
growing up right.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
What's another photo?
Can we think of one?
Please don't quiz me right nowin public the berlin wall, maybe
jfk, but anyways, yeah, we allcan agree that that would be one
of the most famous yeah photosof all time but I think that
also got him a lot of support100 truly just the photo.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
But I it's not just the photo, it's the fact that
the dude just got shot stood upand was still like let's fucking
ride immediately.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
It was like wait, give me my shoes, give me my
shoes.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
That was a funny part .
Wait, wait, wait, what I don'tknow?
No, no, you can hear the wholeconverse, not the whole
conversation I haven't seen he'slike getting up like come on,
let's go, like, wait, wait, letme get my shoes, give me my
shoes, and then he's liketelling secret service to stop
because they were like trying toget him the hell out of there.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
He's like wait, let me get my shoes then.
He's like hold on, wait, andlike parts him over, moves him
over, and he's like okay, wellyou know Say what you want about
the guy, but he's always goingto be himself.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
That's a very Trump follow-up.
He can't help himself.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
The promo machine, thing he does he cannot help
himself.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Oh, he knew in that moment that was a fantastic
advertisement, capitalize.
Yeah, he talked to thephotographer like.
I thought he was saying fuckyeah, so did I.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
I was like fuck you, fuck you, that would have been
even crazier, it would have beenawesome.
I mean at this point thereality show is getting super
deep.
Why not just add in some cursewords on stage?

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, I think he knew in that moment for sure.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Because that's like you knew where you were, because
I was born after 9-11, so Iwasn't alive for that.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
I'm sorry, damn what that.
I'm sorry damn what, yeah, Iwas born in 2002.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, but like I will always remember where I was,
yeah, your mother's womb.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
No, I'm not talking about 9-11 I'm talking about
this, oh okay, yeah.
Yeah, I got a text from buddydusty mcnab.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
He's like trump, just got shot I was like I thought
it was a joke.
I know that sounds terrible,but I thought it was a joke.
Or I thought someone was justthat's all I mean.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
That's what I thought .
I thought it was like someconspiracy bullshit on twitter
or something, because I was atthe pool drinking so I'm drunk,
yeah.
And then me and my friend weregoing back up to my apartment to
play xbox we're gonna playmadden.
My dad called me like yo.
They just shot trump in thehead and I was like dad to get
off twitter, stop.
He's like I'll turn on the newsand I turn on the news and I
was like what a different 30minutes saturday for he was at

(20:42):
the pool going to play Xbox.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I was literally in locks, his nursery room changing
a diaper.
I feel old, Damn.
Those are the days.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
You were probably drunk at the pool when a nine 11
happened, though, so I was inhigh school.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, so I was drunk in Myrtle beach when um they
captured.
Oh no, was it Osama?
They didn't capture him, theyjust killed him.
Yeah, no, Saddam Hussein.
No, no Osama bin Laden.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
When they shot him.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, alcohol, myrtle Beach, you know it was
literally on all the bars and itwas like at night.
When he came out and announcedit they started playing Party in
the USA by Miley Cyrus.
It was a fun moment.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
There are a few songs that I feel like really unite
the country and Party in the USAby Miley Cyrus is one of them.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, we were at the bar.
We were at neighbors down thestreet and every TV in the bar
was all Fox News, of course, andit was all watching that.
And I've never been in arestaurant as packed as that one
was, that it was as quiet asthat one was.
Yeah, I mean, the waitresseswere like whispering.
That's crazy.
It was the weirdest thing.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Well, it's a monumental moment.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, it was wild.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah Well, he survived, America survived, and
he was a little more humanized.
And even at the RNC, whenthey're showing like obviously
it is, you know it's politicaltheater you have the
granddaughters and they'resitting on his lap and all that
and I was like oh, yeah, it's a.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
It's a publicity statement, exactly.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
But you're also like yes, he is somebody's grandpa, I
know he is somebody's dad, yep,and he almost just got killed.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Yeah, that's crazy.
I think we are so desensitizedto just I mean even just the
comments that people make abouthim like you're saying, like the
thickest skin ever.
Just imagine if someone saidthe things they say to him to
you.
I would not recover if he saidthat to my face.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, you know, like he don't care.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
No, I know, and he's the perfect man for the job,
then yeah exactly.
Because, like Godspeed, yeah, aperfect man for the job.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
then because, exactly like godspeed, yeah, there's
not many people that couldwithstand the turmoil and the
constant negativity, and justyeah, good for him and one thing
I felt like after he got shotand that photo's going around
and everybody's showing support,I felt like it was uh gave the
green light for a lot of closettrump fans to come out like,
because then you start seeing iteverywhere.

(23:06):
Everybody's posting it and likethat was kind of like oh shit,
people aren't afraid now toexpress what they believe in or
who they're rooting for, becausea guy almost died.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
So hold on.
I also have a question for youand this is just your opinion,
because I don't think you canever actually have a fact about
it, but I think everybody kindof if you are predominantly
liberal, no problem talkingabout your political beliefs and
everything that you align with,but if you are more
conservative, why is it thatthey're afraid to talk about it?

Speaker 2 (23:39):
because the left extreme, left side are so cancel
culture.
So if it's and the funniestthing is it's like the
democratic party is supposed tobe the most inclusive party the
party of democracy, yeah, and weaccept and invite everybody,
unless you think, you don'tthink like us, and then we were

(24:01):
going to burn you at the stakeyeah, and that's.
That's why I think you know afurther discussion.
I think the Democrats, theextreme left I got plenty of
friends who are Democrats.
I got family members who areDemocrats.
I'm from Connecticut, all right.
I feel like the extreme left.
They're the ones that are goingto lose this election because
of how crazy they've been thepast four years.

(24:24):
And I feel like it's anawakening.
Now I feel like people aren'tafraid to talk about their
support for Trump.
Now I feel like everythingthat's going on and even
Democrats I mean you just sathere before the show we said we
know a lot of liberal people whoare like, yeah, I'm voting for
Trump.
Like oh yeah, okay, it's gettingso outrageous and it went so

(24:45):
extreme left, left, left thatnow it's swinging back.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
That's what I believe .

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Yeah, no, I mean, I just am very I.
I love asking people about notnecessarily what they align with
, but why.
And some people take that as awhat do you mean?
Why?
Obviously because da, da, daand I'm like okay, I wasn't
trying to attack you, but when Iask conservative people that,

(25:12):
it's always like a guardedresponse, it doesn't even.
I don't even mean on socialmedia, I mean just in life, like
my conservative friends almosthave a harder time not
articulating why they believesomething.
Don't get that mixed up.
They know why they believesomething, but saying it out
loud in public, in mixed company, Because they've been made to

(25:34):
feel bad.
Sure yeah, and I, I agree withyou.
I mean, I think, the media.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, I mean it's feel bad.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Sure, yeah, and I, I agree with you.
I mean, I think the media, yeah, I mean it's so bad, yeah, it's
, it's tough, but it's been aninteresting my own personal
experiment that I've had, justasking people, because, also not
for nothing, but I'm stilllearning.
So what if you see somethingdifferently, like I was saying
earlier, so different that I'mlike, oh, I never thought of it
like that and it could change mymind on whatever we're talking
about.
I hate that.

(26:03):
If you ask the question why,like, oh, do you support
whatever is on this politicalballot?
Sure, why, all of a suddenthat's like I'm attacking you,
what?

Speaker 2 (26:12):
do you mean why?

Speaker 3 (26:13):
And it's like dude, whoa, I just was wondering why.
Because if you feel this wayand here the other thing is if
that, if you're like, the onlyreason I want to vote for joe
biden or someone on the left isbecause of how much I hate trump
, that's also a valid answer.
It's your own choice.
So if you want to say that,just say it.
But they won't say that.
No, so exactly, it's just been.

(26:34):
I've tried to be I mean, Iwould consider myself very in
the middle.
I always have been.
I see, I see and try and absorband learn from both sides and
everything.
But I just feel like it'sbecome harder and harder to even
be in the middle.
Then all of a sudden it's likeyou don't stand for anything and
I'm like holy shit.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Now, I stand for nothing.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Okay, I can't keep up with this, so it's.
I don't know Next what happenedafter the RNC Moving on.
It's a crazy time.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
It's crazy, yeah.
So then, in this reality showepisode, three, Episode three
yes, okay.
Episode three.
You have Joe Biden, who's hadwho got the most votes in the
history of any election, the manof the people and all of a
sudden, sudden, the higher uppeople literally bring him out

(27:24):
back and put him down behind theshed I mean right in front of
our face listen, you might bewearing a tinfoil hat, but you
also might not be, and we, Ithink, also will never know well
, I'm not saying he's dead, butalso there's reports that he
actually might be dead becausewe haven't seen him in a week.
but he went from being the mostpopular president, right, he got

(27:48):
the most votes in the lastelection and again the party of
democracy.
And then they the a handful ofpeople took the vote.
You know the president thateverybody voted for and said,
yeah, you're not running anymoreand we're going to handpick who
is running, which I think, ifyou are the Democrat, I mean

(28:10):
from either side that's kind ofmessed up.
Try and argue that it's not.
What's the argument that that'snot messed up?

Speaker 3 (28:23):
and argue that it's not.
What's the argument?
That that's not messed up?
I I mean everybody has said.
Well, from what I've read onthe internet is that they saved
democracy.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
That's been the tagline that I've seen really
been running around and thewhole reason that everybody was
hating on trump and one of thereasons why he almost got killed
was because Biden and all theDemocrats were saying that he
was ruining democracy.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Oh, no, no, no, a threat to democracy, a threat to
democracy.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Let's put a target on him.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
All over the place.
And then and then they shot himand they were like whoa whoa,
whoa, whoa whoa.
We didn't mean that much of athreat and it's like all right,
but speaking of that democracything.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Never mind that, we're going to just do what we
want to do.
It almost feels like now, andthis is why it's just so crazy.
I feel like I don't know how tocorrelate it to something, but
I'm thinking in my head likeyou're watching something happen
.
Maybe it's like the dumbestcriminals.
Or, you see, like somebodyrecording a video and they don't
know that you're watching.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Right, like somebody's in the parking lot
just recording and whoever'sdoing.
Whatever they're doing, theydon't know.
I feel like that's at least howI feel right now.
We're most Americans.
We're just sitting back andit's like we know everything
you're doing right now.
Sure, we know what's going onLike.
For years, you guys have liedto us, trying to say that Joe

(29:34):
Biden is, he's fit and he'smentally sharp, and any time
that anybody would question thatyou would get so much hate you
would get.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
You would hear that oh, those videos were fake.
Well, Trump is only three yearsyounger than him.
I'm like okay.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Okay, the dude can't talk.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
It doesn't matter how old he is.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
And I do think that the biggest exposure that kind
of got this ball rolling, whichI could be incorrect, but this
is my opinion.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Don't come for me the debate.
Yeah, of course, because all ofa sudden everybody was like, oh
my gosh, and that was a setup.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Let me put my tinfoil hat back on.
Okay, wait, set up for what tostart this whole ball rolling.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yes, they knew how bad he was, they knew he wasn't
gonna do well, they put him onstage.
And now, after he's on stagefor a couple hours, the same
people who were defending himfor years are the same people in
the media saying he needs to go.
He needs to go, see, he needsto go Now.
All Americans can say that andthey can all support him leaving
.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
That was also the earliest debate ever, like the
earliest before the electionthat's ever happened.
And his team his team is theone that wanted it.
Interesting Because they cameto CNN or whoever hosted it, and
gave a bunch of crazy rulesthat they didn't think Trump
would say yes to.
So they could be like.
We tried to debate him but hesaid no.
Like mute the mic and all thisother.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Like no crowd In true Trump fashion.
He was like hold my beer, I'llbe there.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I don't know why he has a southern accent now, but
yeah, okay, yeah, okay.
So I think that that was asetup.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
I didn't know about the timeline.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, that's the earliest it's ever been.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Okay Right.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
I try and be educated so I don't sound like an idiot
and I can form my own opinions.
But it is so draining to methat I also try to not be just
doom scrolling all the time.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
And I want to be an educated American.
I hate when people are like, oh, just stick to, you know,
running your business doing yourpodcast, sean, oh, just stick
to modeling or whoever's voicingtheir opinion about politics,
because that is silly to me.
Politics affect all of us,grand sweepingly, and it doesn't
matter where you stand, if youlive in this country, it affects
you.
So why are you telling peoplewho have a public platform Just

(31:40):
stick to what you do?
It like oh, what do I do?
I'm a human, so I'm gonna stickto being a human, so go fuck
yourself.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
If I believe that the sky is purple, I can say that
because that's what I believeand that's why we live in this
country you also pay taxes andit's like my business is
dependent on how the economyruns, like all this, which is
your livelihood, which thendirectly affects your family
within, affects your son, whichaffects your, which affects your
mental health.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
It's like the whole thing.
Oh, just stick to like.
You know Dave Portnoy, love himor hate him, he's outspoken and
opinionated and he's not afraidto say whatever the fuck he
thinks.
And you know, he started avideo that was just like all
these people keep telling me tostick to pizza reviews.
He's like no, fuck you.
And then I can't help but agreewith that.
Yeah, because by no means am Iever going to be as famous as

(32:20):
Dave Portnoy.
Hopefully that sounds like anightmare, but he's right.
Yeah, and he's a businessman.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
He has a very large Well, I was thinking this
yesterday because I love Portnoy.
I've always been a fan since hestarted Barstool back in New
England when I was a young pupback in college.
But I'm like it back in college, but I'm like it's probably
easier, easier for him toexpress these opinions and talk
now that he's got hundreds ofmillions of dollars in the bank
100 right like if it was oh yes,before bar still got those big

(32:47):
deals, he wouldn't be able to doit absolutely now that he's,
you know, mid 40, he's almost,is he almost 50 years old?

Speaker 3 (32:54):
he's probably older than that, I'll look it up no,
he's not older than 50, youchild born in 2000 46 I bet 46,
47, 47 47.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
He's three years from 50, so it's like he's got all
the money in the world.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
He's set, his family set and yeah, and I love, I love
his he ended the video that I'mtalking about with.
If you can prove me wrong, Iwill buy you a boat, a yacht and
I'll be your captain, yeah andI'm like that's such a flex,
that's such a douchebag thing tosay, but also I get it, I agree
with it.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, I lovethem or hate them.
Who?

(33:27):
It doesn't even have to be daveportnoy.
If someone has an opinion andsomething to back it up and the
reasons why and they'repassionate about it, like I
respect it.
Yeah, even if I disagree withthem.
Yeah, I just love people whohave a backbone and stick with
it Instead of just saying whatappeals to the masses or what
makes them look good and getsome out of cancel culture and
all that shit.
Like no, I love when peoplecome back and they're like, um,
you need to apologize becauseyou said X, y, z, and they come

(33:49):
out and they say, yeah, I saidit, yeah and yeah, that's what
they meant.
At least I know where theystand now so I can make an
educated decision to eithersupport them or not.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Right.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
But when it's like wishwashy and we're just doing
whatever the script says, how amI supposed to make an educated
decision for myself, for mybusiness, for my family, for my
son, for all this stuff thatyou're talking about Like, go
fuck yourself.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Anyways, and I will say I don't like Joe Biden.
I've never voted for him, but Ido feel bad for the human Joe
Biden through all this.
Yeah, of course, because hededicated whatever side doesn't
matter his whole life topolitics, which isn't the
funnest job.
Finally got the job he wanted,probably later than he would
have wanted.
Probably didn't enjoy it at all.

(34:34):
And then everyone kept tellingyou you're going to do it again,
you're going to do it again.
And then, the moment you fuckup, everyone turned their back
on you and said, no, get out ofhere, get out of here, get out
of here.
That's politics, that's fine,and they paraded him around and
made him look.
So Like when you go back, 10years from now, 20 years from
now, you go look back and youthink of Joe Biden.
The moment yeah, the momentshit hit the fan, everyone was

(34:57):
like see, yeah, we're good.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, that sucked well, and it sucks.
Like you're saying, he has hadan insanely long career in
politics and like, right at theend got tarnished.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, that sucks yeah , that's tough because he
obviously doesn't understand orgrasp everything that's going on
.
So it's so sad to watch and forsure the human and I'm like I
feel really bad for that guy.
Where's his family and that'sgoing on.
So it's so sad to watch and forsure the human in him like I
feel really bad for that guy.
Where's his family and that'swhy everybody's like Jill Biden
wants to be the president.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Did you see her reaction after the debate there?

Speaker 2 (35:29):
was a clip of her.
She's like Joe did really good.
You knew every question.
I'm like what is he?

Speaker 3 (35:34):
four, that's the way I talked to your son, a literal
baby.
Yeah, I was just like what isshe doing?
What is she doing?
What is she doing?
What is she doing?
Stop, stop, stop jill yeah like, and it could have been a
congratulatory.
Like I'm so proud of you asyour wife, like you did great.
Why was she screaming into themicrophone like it was the youth
jamboree 19?

(35:55):
Like what?
Joe, you answered everyquestion which is the point of a
debate.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Jill, yes, he's the literal person of the united
states person in the entireworld that's crazy yeah, so you
feel terrible for him because,he doesn't want to do this right
now.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
He's I mean, he's the guys on his all I hope right
now is that joe biden issomewhere shirtless with his
pants undone, with whateverscotch he enjoys, just chilling.
Yeah, like, let him chill, lethim enjoy whatever time he has
left, which apparently tinfoilpeople are saying that's zero,
because it's already gone justlike let the dude chill yes,

(36:33):
just let him chill out I don'tknow for sure.
The memes about it have beenpretty hilarious the internet is
still undefeated, I have to saythere's like memes that, like
Joe Biden's, going to bedevastated when he hears about
this.
They're like does Joe know Even?

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Trump is like hey, guess what?
Today's a new day.
Joe doesn't remember sayingthat yesterday, so he's still in
the race.
Like Trump is making ridiculouscomments about it.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Oh, Trump, that man so yeah, that's episode four.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Joe Biden, put down behind the shed by his own
people, literally just said andthen we're going to take Kamala.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
It's just so convoluted and I feel like it's
so chaotic now that you don'tknow what to believe that I just
feel like both sides are justbeing robbed of what a political
or, I'm sorry, a presidentialelection is supposed to be.
It's just there's so manyepisodes here in this reality

(37:28):
show that it's just it's hard tofocus on the facts, yeah, and
the plans in the future and allthat stuff, or at least for me.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
A lot of people say Barack Obama still run the
country.
I saw I've seen those memes too, but it just feels, at least
for me.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
A lot of people say barack obama's still running the
country, for I saw I've seenthose memes too but it just
feels like defeating for me.
It's like what's the point ofme even trying?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
if I don't feel like anything is authentic anyway
well, that's what I think themain issue comes down to.
No matter who's running this orwhatever, it just feels like
the american people are justkind of getting the run around,
yeah, from the very top and it'slike we're all catching on and
it just seems icky, it doesn'tseem right and it's confusing

(38:07):
and it's confusing it isconfusing and it's just.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
I mean, like I said, I want to be an educated voter
and I want to have my ownthoughts and opinions, but it's
tough to weed through all of theextracurriculars right now.
That's a lot.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah, godspeed to us in our country you guys are
older than me thank you, we knowbut, like I, the only election
before, like I remember this one, the last one, the hillary
trump.
Then the only election beforethat I remember was I think it
was like mccain and obama yeah,and that one to me wasn't, as

(38:38):
None of them were Like when didit flip from like being like
Trump and Hillary, everyonecould have cordial conversations
.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Trump and Hillary.
It wasn't like this, was thatwhat?
Yes, oh, it was over 2016.
I was literally counting downthe days for those debates for
pure entertainment, like settingthe TV up, and those two
debating was outrageous andhilarious.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Debating was outrageous and hilarious.
There's a clip going aroundfrom the presidential debate of
2012 between Mitt.
Romney and Obama, and it's justlike the most cordial.
Mitt congratulates Obama on hiswedding anniversary Like thanks
for spending your night with me, I know this is exactly where
you want to be Just like supercordial, super like
conversational, respectful.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
And guys in their mid 40s 50s yes.
Yeah, youth youth.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
We forgot about that as well uh, yeah, that's long
gone, but I would say it's.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
2016 is when everything like culturally
though, like even back then,like you could have changed
everything yeah, but before that, like people didn't disagree as
harshly as I mean they're stillright, like way left, way right
.
But it was still like it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
People were getting shot over who they're voting you
could say if you're arepublican or democrat without
judgment, like I, remember beingin school, real young um, when
it was clinton.
And who would clinton goagainst?
No, who did bush go against?

Speaker 3 (39:58):
I was a child doing gymnastics, not paying attention
to.
No, it was clinton and goreclinton gore ticket defeated.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Republican incumbent hw gore, what gore was the vp
right, yeah, and who did they go?
They go against george bush andvice president dan quail dan
quail?

Speaker 3 (40:13):
isn't he the one who shot, or got shot or something
on like?

Speaker 1 (40:15):
a hunting trip.
That was in 1992.
Are you talking about quailhunting?
No, didn't al gore shootsomeone or something on like a
hunting?

Speaker 3 (40:19):
trip.
That was in 1992.
Are you talking about quailhunting?
No, didn't Al Gore shootsomeone, or something like that?

Speaker 2 (40:21):
I don't know, al Gore did not shoot anybody.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Somebody shot someone on a hunting trip.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Oh, yes, okay, in the 90s, or like at least in the
early 2000s, something veryvague in my memory.
Ah, who's that old guy?
And it was a vice presidentwasn't out.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Gore whale hunting booth that was in 1992 anyways,
what was your story aboutremembering when you're really
young?

Speaker 1 (40:42):
as a kid dick cheney, yes in 06.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, I remember being in school as a kid and
they'd have like posters and youget to color them in.
It was like a elephant forrepublicans or a donkey right
for democrats and like we'd alllike kind of just color them in,
and it was during the electionand people were saying who they
liked and obviously not havingany clue about politics.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Sure, it was way more um, respectful yeah until trump
came in well, yeah, that guy,he, yeah, he has done quite a
remix.
I do feel like I wish there wasalmost along the same lines,
where you're just like coloringand you're learning the facts of
both sides.
There are quizzes out therethat you can answer questions,
like they'll ask you politicalbased questions and you can

(41:26):
respond how you think and at theend, it tells you what you are
you should vote for yeah whichyou know what.
That's a place to start if youfeel super inundated with
information and it's like not anameless faceless opponent, no
names or any political partyaffiliation.
And it's like not a nameless,faceless opponent, no names or
any political party affiliation,and it's just like here are the
facts.
What do you think about this?
Would you want it to be thisway or this way?
And I think that is what shouldbe at the ballot.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
I think you should answer it.
I think you just solved theworld's problems.
Sam Kat, I think you walk up tothe machine.
You take a quiz.
No, you take a full-blown testand you can study for it as much
or as little as you want, butbased off the way you answer
your question, whoever fits thatcandidacy candidacy bill is the

(42:09):
next.
Whoever?

Speaker 3 (42:10):
yeah it votes for you .
It goes.
You just voted for joe biden,you just voted for sean booth,
like whatever it may be.
I feel like it would take a lotof the riffraff out of it and
it would kind of pull the powerthat media and all of this shit
has over us.
Yeah, cause that's truly.
I mean.
I know I keep repeating myself,but like it's all I want.
I want to not be confused, Iwant to know and I want to make

(42:30):
an educated decision for myself,for my future, for the future
of the country, for my invisiblechildren that I don't have, and
I just feel for my invisiblechildren that I don't have.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
And I just feel For your eggs that are freezing
right now, for my eggs that arefreezing.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
They're just sitting there chilling, waiting to be
part of this world, and it'slike I just wish there was an
easier way to get through theriffraff.
And it feels defeating at thispoint that it's just never going
to happen.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yeah, it's never going to happen.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
It's going to be a wild few months here but, oh my
gosh, do you think it'll ever goback, like even like, if trump
wins again and he's done, hecan't go again.
Do you think it'll ever go backto how it used to be, or you?
Think now it's over now.
Now it's, we're going on thispath and this is what it's gonna
be.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
I don't think it'll be anytime soon, but I think yes
I think it'll kind of swingback.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
It's a little more, I don't know, depends.
See what happens, like you said.
Have you ever?

Speaker 3 (43:15):
seen the movie idiocracy?
You should watch it, because weare.
It used to be funny and it'sgetting wildly close.
Have you seen idiocracy?
No, that's your homework.
Okay, put it this way back whenthey made the movie, they were
trying to think of, like whatthe most hideous, dumbest shoes
they could feature in this moviethat like, oh my god, no one
would ever buy them.

(43:35):
Flash forward, they are crocs,yeah, and so that's just like a
little preface.
It's basically the evolution oftime and the fact that, like a
smart, educated, high IQ person,focused on career and all this
stuff and ended up notprocreating and then they waited
too long and then they didn'thave any babies, all at the same
time that Jim Bob, who lives inthe middle of nowhere with the

(43:55):
IQ of four, has had sex withevery person from here to
Timbuktu and now has rapidlyprocreated and eventually the
entire world is now an idiot,because the idiots kept
procreating and the smart peoplewere just focused on what was
in front of them.
I don't know.
I wouldn't say it's a goodmovie, but it's an alarmingly
close potential prediction thatI don't think we want to come

(44:18):
true.
But it used to be funnier, nowit's a little eee, a little
close.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Getting close.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
And then the final episode of our reality show,
Final Secret Service just forthe past two weeks.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Oh, okay.
Yeah so I'm very.
I didn't know any of this.
You guys were the ones talkingabout this when I walked in here
.
I don't know any of this nextepisode, so you got to take this
away.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah, the head lady of the Secret Service, kim
Shaddle.
Is that how you say her name?
Cheadle Cheadle.
She sat in front of Congressyesterday and they fucking tore
her apart.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Like I mean, went at her Trying to get any type of
information, any answers fromwhat happened, demanding at her
trying to get any type ofinformation, any answers from
what happened, demanding thatshe resigns.
Uh, both sides of the aisle,obviously there was a major
failure, a breakdown to letsomebody who watches dungeon and
dragons in his basement, 130yards close to the president,

(45:13):
and they're trying to getanswers, and so she had to sit
under oath and um, they all wentat her and then one lady was
literally like we have, I havefive minutes to talk to you.
Do you want to take this fiveminutes to draft your
resignation letter?

Speaker 3 (45:28):
oh, she goes no wait, they said that to the head of
secret service yeah, so thegirl's going at her.
The girl's like oh it was allright, I gotta look at this.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, I'll send you a clip, this one lady was like
these are are only yes and noquestions going forward.
She's like okay, and then shestarts drilling her and the lady
literally goes you're so fullof shit.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
You're so full of shit right now.
She said something, sheanswered some questions.
She goes that's bullshit.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yeah, it was wild dude and the Secret Service lady
who's sitting there will notanswer anything.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
will, will not give the simplest answers, and it's
been nine days and she will notsay anything.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Why do you think that is uh still under investigation
?

Speaker 3 (46:04):
it's like well and why are you here talking to?

Speaker 2 (46:06):
us exactly.
So, anyways, they had tosubpoena her to get her there,
and then today she finallyresigned.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
She had so much pressure, like she is just gone
one guy because she used to workat pepsi, who owns like doritos
and shit and some guy I guess.
He did like he stayed, he livesin like texas and they'll know
where.
She like staged the shootingand like got real mad about it.
He's like I did 10 shots andnine of them would have killed
him.
The other one hit him in theear and he got super pissed and
he's like go back to guardingdoritos of course a man in texas

(46:34):
did that, I mean it was bad,dude, it was bad yeah but I
don't take that whole littlesystem they do.
I just feel like that setting isvery unproductive anyway,
because everyone's up theretrying to get slam dunk roast
for instagram and shit.
Like exactly it's veryunproductive.
And then you get someone likethat who's gonna go there and
she's gonna say, oh, like they'dbe, like they'd ask her a
question.
They'd ask her really simplestuff, dude, yeah, they'd be

(46:56):
like what time did the firstshots happen?
right, you can we know that yeahlike it's on the tv when it
happened and she's like oh,still under investigation, still
under investigation.
Or I'd have to ask the fbi.
They're the ones doing thecriminal.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
She didn't want to be there.
She was subpoenaed.
No, they made her.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
She apparently they asked her to go.
She said, no, we're gonnasubpoena you then.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
So then you have to go like simple questions like do
you think that they should havebeen allowed within 130 yards
or do you think donald trumpshould have been notified?
And she's like we're stillunder like anything like any
common sense questions, like shewould have gained so much more
respect, at least for me, if shewas just like yeah, sure, just
be honest, like yeah, just tellus what happened tell us, give
us something, because now itjust looks so fishy and you have

(47:36):
all these investigations andagain we'll never know yeah,
because they were like well,because she'd be like.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
She kept being like, oh, the fbi is doing the fbi,
the fbi, and they're like allright, well, who at the fbi?
Do we need a subpoena to get?

Speaker 3 (47:46):
here.
Yeah, well they're like oh, Ican't give out names and they're
like all right because it's Ijust feel like it's, you know,
protecting what's within their Idon't know and in that
situation my empathetic side islike, oh my gosh, that's just a
human Like we were talking about.
That's so bad.
But then the other side of meis just like, yeah, but you also
chose this job.

(48:07):
Yeah, I mean, you knew what itwas and you signed up for it,
yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
I mean, you didn't know this was going to happen.
Well, hopefully you didn't knowthis was going to happen.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
What?
I would have been gone 10minutes after it happened.
I would have set it all up andbe like I'm out, you can't
there's no coming back.
Yeah, you're done.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
I would have made an announcement I fucked up, this
is my responsibility.
Like yeah, yeah, that's a,that's a, that's an important
job.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
They were like like did you call president trump
after and apologize?
And she was like yeah.
She's like they're like howlong do you wait?
And she's like oh, I don't knowthe timeline, I don't know the
timeline, I don't know thetimeline Like, how long did you
wait?
Like you're under oath, was it72 hours?
And she's like yeah, it was 72hours.
Like you waited three days,yeah, and she just got ripped.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Like the last president that got shot, was it
Reagan 40 years ago?
Assassination attempt.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
He obviously survived .
But that director of the SecretService is to keep them safe
correctly and they did not dothat.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
But shout out to the guys on stage and the women who
just that's.
Their job is to be a humanshield.
Yep, with bullets still flyingover your head, that's crazy.
I don't want to think aboutthat.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Yeah, gives me the chills.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Well, that's the greatest reality show on TV
right now.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Stay tuned for next week's episode.
I'm sure we'll have somethingelse.
Come in the doors here.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
I am 50 minutes in.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
We just talked 50 minutes about the state of our
world just burning I guess weare a political show now after
that, but, like I said, politicsis directly affecting our lives
.
Yeah, I don't feel like I'm notclaiming any sides right now.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
I don't know where I am.
I'm in the middle and I'm veryconfused.
In the tornado I mean yeah, youweren't here for that.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
When I sat with tommy , she kind of like gave me a
quiz and I was like, yeah, Iagree with a lot of stuff on the
left and I agree with a lot ofstuff yeah, but now I can, yeah,
definitely say my only goal,though, is to just not be I'm
probably gonna get roasted forthis, but just like not be an
emotional voter, and I because Iknow emotions are a part of it
and like, naturally I feel someway, but I just want to make

(50:04):
sure that I'm making like aneducated decision not just like,
oh god, like, like I don't wantto.
I want to make a decision, nota reaction right.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Well, that's what they, that's what they want you.
They want you to make areaction, which is why they say
exactly stuff about exactly it'snot even true that's like the
extra additives in the scripthere of this reality show, and
I'm just like that is truly.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
My goal is.
I want to make a decision, nota reaction.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
So maybe emotional is the wrong word, but I'm a woman
, so we have those.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Yeah, good luck.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Right.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
It's getting tougher and tougher by day, but we shall
see.
We shall see.
Stay tuned.
Let's go lighthearted.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
I would love to.
I'm sweating.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Top four final four favorite reality shows of all
time, Not including this one.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Besides the one I'm living.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Okay, cool, cool cool Number four, here we go,
samcat's favorite reality showsranked from four to one okay,
one being the best.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
My number four, yeah, is a bit of nostalgia, because
I I do have to preface this with, like, I don't really watch a
lot of reality tv.
I think it rots your brain,okay, and I mean that, um, not
all but just some, but I thinkthat back in the day when I was
in high school, I was obsessedwith so you think you can dance.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
That was my favorite show.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
For an extended period of time Right what ryan?

Speaker 3 (51:27):
no, that was a singer , ryan seacrest no, no what are
you?

Speaker 2 (51:31):
saying okay, keep going um anyways, so I
appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
First of all, I love to dance.
I'm nowhere near good enough toever be on a dancing reality
show by any stretch of theimagination, but it just also
has a level of nostalgia for mebecause it was just my favorite
show in high school.
My friends used to come overand we would watch like binge
watch it back when you had to beon demand and DVR and TiVo to
fast forward through thecommercials type thing.

(51:55):
But I feel like for years I wasobsessed with that show.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Okay, that's a good one.
There was a dance show on MTV.
I swear this guy's name wasRyan.
He was a backup dancer forBritney Spears.
Surprised you don't remember it.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
It was great.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
I do know who Ryan Cabrera is, though.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yeah, he had the spiky hair.
Okay, that's your number four.
Number four, I'm just going toget out of the way.
I'm going to say the Bachelor,Bachelorette, Great show.
Obviously it's very successful.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Not's a reason why it's been around for 30 plus
years talk about a socialexperiment yeah, number three
okay, but number three alsonostalgic, and I just feel like
it was always on on sundaynights.
So I feel like my family and Ijust like watched it and it has
led to my love for homerenovations, like we talked
about at the beginning.
But extreme home makeover, yeah, when they would choose
families that needed whateverhelp and then they would go in

(52:51):
and build the house in sevenhours.
I still don't know how they didthat.
You remember it was like theywould send them on a vacation
for four days and they'd comeback with a completely new home.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
It happened the town next to me.
These kids I played basketballagainst in Suffield, a mile down
the road what yeah?

Speaker 3 (53:07):
I would love to be on set for that show too, because
the logistics do not add up inmy head.
And yet they did it every week,like were they lying about the
timeline.
Can you build a freaking housein four hours?

Speaker 2 (53:17):
can renovate it.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Yeah, yeah, no, they would like.
I mean yeah, I guess a lot ofthem are renovations, but I just
feel like they'd be scrambling.
They're like the family's gonnabe home in 30 minutes and like
they don't have an island in thekitchen I know and I'm like
this is like this timeline yeahand that's where my misjudgment
of how handy I was, I guessstarted I was a big a and e guy
right, yeah, that's uh that'sstill hgtv, oh hgtv okay, I got

(53:42):
into a big phase with those aswell.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Great show number three I'm gonna um take a step
further from the bachelorbachelorette.
I'm going to tequila.
That's a throwback.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Speaking of, rotting your brain.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
That was a dating show.
Oh my gosh in the Rock of Love.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Remember those were like.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Yeah, but Tequila had guys and girls.
Yes, In one house.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
And she was a bisexual.
Yes, well, that's how guys andgirls work.
Yes, thank you for saying thatto me.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Well, that's how guys and girls work.
Yes, yeah, I do remember that.
That was damn.
Yeah, that's when we were aproper country, that's when
things were going good inamerica.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
I forgot about tila tequila.
That took me back yeah yikes.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Okay, my number two is the challenge yeah, those are
always good, the old ones,though, not the new ones I agree
.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Yeah, I feel like back in the day when it was just
like a bunch of mixture, likeroad rules, real, yeah real
world, whatever, yeah um truechallenge, because also I feel
like I could have been on thatshow yeah, I wanted to be on
that show that would have beendope you should.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Road rules are real yeah, the challenge, I could do
that one.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
I just feel like they were creative.
It had like just the rightamount of drama, but it was just
like physical fights basically,but it was just like so
impressive when the girl whoweighed 100 pounds and like
nobody bet on her somehow beatthe guy.
Like I love the drama of that.
It was organic.
I feel like it wasn't scripted.
I feel like that was real yeah,like you can't.
Yeah, those emotions are runninghigh with those guys, hell yeah

(55:02):
yeah well, I mean, who knowswhat they're doing off camera in
order to be pumped to beattheir opponent in like a sand
pit that's on fire while theyhave a tire around their neck
and you're like what?
I would love to do that and Iwould love to come up with a
challenge.
Yeah, like something that wouldbe implemented into the show,
like, oh, let's see if you cando this, because those people
are also creative props to thosewriters very creative.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
I love it.
Yeah, I think that kicked off.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Uh, reality tv, the real world and then you would
just be able to go back to yourhouse with your friends and just
like, drink and swim and hangout and have the best time.
And then tomorrow you wake upand have to like do another
competition, sign me up, yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Not a bad deal.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Not a bad, and they make a lot of money off that and
they all fall in love.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
It's just a whole big thing.
Number two I had only becauseI'm watching it right now.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
no, idea what that is Elona's great.
What is it?

Speaker 2 (55:48):
You get dropped off.
There's 10 people and they go-.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Dropped off where.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Exactly In the absolute middle of nowhere in
the woods.
You get dropped off on ahelicopter, on a boat and you
have 10 items that you can bringwith you.
I'd be dead in the first 30seconds Okay, so you wouldn't

(56:16):
win and the last man, or fivehundred thousand dollars, but
they don't know who's dropping.
So it's the hunger games,basically, without having to
kill people, but they have tohunt, obviously, and the winner
is usually there 70, 80 days,and so you just go days.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
I thought you're gonna say hours no 70 hours.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
I'm like no, you go there, you build, uh, a cabin,
um with.
Again, you can only bring 10items.
And then you have to fend foryourself and you bring, they
have all the camera equipmentset up and you record yourself.
So you don't have anyinteraction with any humans and
you have a walkie or like aphone.
In case there's emergency or ifyou want to tap out, you call

(56:50):
it and they say I'm done andthey pick you up and then you
just go as long as you possiblycan how long do you think you'd
actually last realistically,realistically bullshit I would
probably right now, last, maybe,uh, a week a few days a few
days, I don't know I eat a lot.
That's the thing.

(57:10):
That's.
That's how they all, all thesepeople.
They'll gain like 70 80 pounds.
They'll be overweight and theyjust lose it because they are
dependent on what they catch.
They'll go days without gettingstuff right they're always next
to water, so they always haveto try and make their own
fishing rods.
They'll like set up.
They'll make little nets.
Uh, they all bring a bow andarrow.
You get a certain amount ofarrow.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
So they're like do you choose the 10 items you get
or they give you 10?

Speaker 2 (57:34):
items you choose, but by now it's been around for
many seasons, so they all knowthe best items to bring A tarp,
a fire starter, bow and arrowaxe.
Yeah, I give you four days.
Four yeah, one yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
I give you four days for yeah, one full day of like
adrenaline.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
I just want to be able to kill anything.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
I'd be able to kill fish, but if I saw animals out
there, you would be able to ifthat was how you were going to
live.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Them are you baby.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Like one guy one season I watch.
He killed maybe it was a, a, amoose and dude won.
He took all the meat and hebuilt his own little smokehouse
and he just had all this meat hewas like I'm actually on
vacation, are you guys?

Speaker 3 (58:13):
yeah, I'm getting paid for this.
Did I win?

Speaker 2 (58:15):
most people go completely crazy yeah, because
they all have families and theyall, like you, can't talk to
anybody.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
So you're talking about months of just and also,
do they know if you're alive,like I would hope that the
producers check in and they'relike, hey, your husband's still
okay, he's just out of he made ameat house out here, so he's
going to win, but like do theyget to check in Not the
contestant but the families?

Speaker 2 (58:37):
I would hope yeah, the families probably check in
with the production company butalso, like some people, end up
having to leave because they'relike there's been, oh are there
been people who yeah, you don'twant to get an infection and die
.
You eat like something wrongand they're throwing up and
shitting themselves all nightand they're like I'm going to
die of dehydration.
I have to get off this Islandand it's just, you just go into

(58:58):
and it's also gets to the wintertime, so you're completely
freezing.
It's wild.
It's cool, though, like thewinter they always have.
Like the last couple weeksthey'll send out, like once
every few days, uh, doctors thatcheck these people and those
some people.
They're like you gotta gobecause you're gonna die,

(59:19):
because your body is literallystarting to eat itself and eat
the its organs for food, sothey'll at least they do that
yeah, they check them out, butlike the winter, always they're
like the winner, always, likethey always do like little
interviews too.
The producer yeah and they'llhave like the, the wife or
something walk up behind thewinner, like they'll just turn
around and their wife's standingthere.
It's like you won yeah but likegood sad great, yeah, that's my

(59:43):
number two damn, that's yournumber two.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
I can't even imagine what your number one is.
Um, I feel like yours is reallyserious and now my.
My number one is mostly a joke,but also just holds a special
place in my heart is Pimp myRide.
Wow, because Exhibit used tojust like find a single mom of
four children and she'd be likeyou know what I really enjoy
popcorn once every.
You know three months when Iwatch movies with my kids.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Let me build a popcorn machine.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
And then you'd be like, okay, let's see what we
did here was we put apersonalized popcorn maker in
your trunk.
And she's like this girl hasfour kids and you put a popcorn
maker in her trunk.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
It was so stupid, but so good.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Yes, but it was so entertaining because you're just
like what are they going tocome up with now?
You probably don't even knowwhat I'm talking about because
that was in the early 2000s andI don't.

(01:00:34):
I mean, I think that show hasbeen gone since like 2007, 8, a
while, I mean.
But once you turn it on youcouldn't turn it off.
It was so interesting, it wasso bad that it was good.
Basically, people would haveshitty cars and, like their
friends or themselves, wouldnominate them to pimp my ride
for like a car makeover.
And at no point was anythingever like within the scope of
being usable yeah it was likethey come out and be like neon
lights and like the trunk wouldopen and steam would come out,
but like nothing would behelpful for the actual vehicle
that you're driving and I justfeel like pure.

(01:00:55):
That was pure entertainment.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Yeah, that was good.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
That was good time.
That was a good one.
It was a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Yeah, whatever happened, my number one I don't
know when is he.
He might need his ride.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
I was like I don't, I don't know, I haven't heard
from him.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Uh, my number one.
I had the first 48.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
That's uh, that's a good one.
That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
I used to watch a lot of that.
Yeah, that's a and E.
Back in high school that wasyeah, there's a murder.
It was always like Detroit, youknow, falling around the

(01:01:36):
homicide unit and they weresupposed to find the murderer
within the first 48 or the first.
You have 48 hours to have thebest chance of finding who
killed somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Anything after 48 hours or isn't it like missing
people too?
Yeah like you have the bestchance to find them in the first
48.
If you don't find them in 48,it's like well you know if we're
ever gonna find them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Yeah, so that's uh, I was.
Ooh, maybe I want to be like aninvestigator.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Not everybody is Liam Neeson, though.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
No, that's very true.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
There's that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
There is that Pimp my ride, here we go, we are back.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
I'm going to go home and watch more episodes of it.
That's also your homework, I'lldo it.
He's like, yeah, we'll do it.
Turn off the reality TV showwe're living in and put on that
one, just to feel a little senseof calm.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Exactly.
That's all we're here for Giveyou a little sense of calm.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Yes, let's keep it lighthearted, let's keep life
lighthearted.
Because if we don't have eachother, what do we have?

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
What do we have, SamCat, if we don't?

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
have each other A lot of riffraff, not good shit.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Not good shit.
Thanks for tuning in.
We'll Okay, we're going to try.
We're going to keep this thinggoing.
Life's been busy, but we'regoing to try.
You're home for how long?

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
I'm home.
I have, like I'm on the backnine for the year.
I have a few weeks here andthere that I'm a little busy,
but for the most part I'mchilling, cruising in.
You're the one that's been inmy A.
Yeah, yeah.
Literally someone DM me, Sean.
I was like bro, I don't know,Like if you've seen him let me
know.
I don't know and you're like,sorry, I've been a little busy.
I'm like it's been four weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
The only reason I knew you were still alive was,
quite literally, instagram andDre.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Still alive, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
You, you have color in your face and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
So obviously you've been having a good time.
I got a full beard too.
Okay, it's great yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
Yeah, I see that that's good, though you don't
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
No, I like it, oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
I was going to say don't shave it off just because
it's gray.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Don't be that big of a man.
No, no, no, I love it.
I don't let it go, gray.
It's just crazy that ithappened in one year.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Well, what has changed in the last year for?

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
you Sean.
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