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July 23, 2025 • 44 mins

This hour, we tackle the insidious and demonic issue of anti-Semitism. Why are we seeing rising levels of open hatred toward the Jewish people? How do followers of Jesus respond? What is the genesis of this animosity? Join us for a timely and important conversation.

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S2 (01:50):
Here are some of the news headlines we're watching.

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The conference was over. The president won a pledge.

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Americans worshiping government over God.

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Extremely rare safety move by a major.

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17 years the Palestinians and Israelis negotiated.

S1 (02:18):
Hi, friends. Welcome to In the Market with Janet Parshall.
So glad we're going to spend the hour together. We're
going to talk about something that, well, it walks across
the stage of life looking oh so political, international intrigue,
geopolitical politics, etc. but you know what? It's not for
the believer. It is 1,000% a spiritual issue. This is

(02:40):
one of those moments. If there ever was a moment,
this is it. When you walk through life with the
newspaper in one hand and the Bible in the other,
we are going to talk about the nation of Israel,
and we're going to talk about IDs. You know what
IDs is? It stands for Israel Derangement Syndrome. What in
the world is going on? Did you hear what Macron

(03:01):
in France just said? Yes. He said that he is
going to move forward to see that there is the
establishment of the nation of Palestine. If he only knew
his history. It's a pejorative, by the way, the word
Palestine was never meant to be a compliment. It was
a pejorative. Right. Those those Philistines, but I digress. If
you don't know your world history, you're going to get
lost in the milieu. And more importantly, I like the

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fact that Mike Huckabee got up and said, you know,
if Macron wants to do the support of a Palestinian state,
he said, I suggest he carves out a part along
the Riviera because it looks oh, so much like the
Palestinian area he wants to build. So we're going to
talk about this topic. Uh, it's a demonic delusion, and
that's the way we're going to frame it this hour.

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And I hope you're ready to sit up straight, think critically, biblically,
and keep that word of God open. Olivier Melnick is back.
I am so glad. Last time I was with him,
one of the fastest hours I did on radio. And
you know what? I just felt like? Wow. Could not
get all my questions answered because this is an ongoing
problem and a growing issue. By the way, who would
have thought post Holocaust that you would ever see marked

(04:04):
rise in anti-Semitism again? But this is again why I
say this is a spiritual issue. Okay, history. When you
annihilate 6 million people just because of who they are, well,
you have a problem. And the declaration never again was
heard around the globe. And allegedly the world thought that
was a good idea. Not so much. A bunch of
college campus kids in Columbia. No, no. To the river,

(04:24):
to the sea. Kill all Jews. You can't wear any
kind of identification as being a follower of Jew on
a college campus, because it just might cost you. Well,
Olivier knows about this. He writes about it a lot,
and he is just someone who I can't wait to
talk to. President and executive director of Shalom in Messiah,
a nonprofit organization that exists to expose and fight anti-Semitism,

(04:47):
as well as to equip and mobilize Christians to lead
the Jewish people to Yeshua. He was born in Paris
to a secular Jewish family, he lost his grandfather in
Auschwitz and after giving his life to the Lord in
1983 and growing up in faith for several years, he
had the opportunity to attend Moody Bible Institute, where he
graduated with a degree in no surprise. Jewish studies. So

(05:08):
thankful Jewish Studies is a part of Moody Bible Institute.
He also served, along with his wife in Chosen People ministries.
Thank you, Mitch Glazer. And he loves to tell the
Jewish people about Yeshua. So, Olivier, the warmest of welcomes,
so much to talk about. Give me your take on Macron.
What is with him?

S6 (05:24):
Well, thank you for having me again, Janet. And I'm
listening to your introduction. And I'm going like, I have
nothing to add. You covered so much in those 2
or 3 minutes. I'm going back. Okay. I don't know
what else to say. So I was I was kind
of I was kind of excited because I was going
to say, oh, I'm going to bring you a scoop.

(05:45):
It just happened an hour ago. Uh, I'm going to
tell her about Macron. And you just stole my thunder.

S1 (05:52):
Well, we're both reading the same headlines. And maybe it's
because we care so passionately about the Jewish people and
the Jewish state of Israel. I don't know where his
anti-Semitism comes from, because as part of the intro, I said,
you were born in Paris to a secular family. Has
France always had an anti-Semitic posture, or is this just
germane to Macron?

S6 (06:13):
Uh, no. France. France has had a long history of
anti-Semitism that predates Macron. Macron, we know, is a globalist
and who also, uh, it's it's a fact that France
has the largest Muslim, uh, community or population in Western Europe. Uh,

(06:36):
I want to say it's, uh, 11% something like 6
or 7 million. And that could be off. But it's
it is the largest Muslim population in Western Europe. And
you don't, uh, you cannot ignore such a number, especially
if you're elected, uh, when you're in power. So the

(06:57):
fact I think the fact that he just announced officially that, eh,
France is really happy to announce that at the United
Nations General Assembly in mid September, they will, uh, they will,
you know, they will, uh, recognize is the right word,
recognize Palestine as a bonafide country. And that that creates

(07:18):
a lot, a lot of problems. And, and I think,
I think why he's doing it right now, I think he's,
he's saying, hey, France is an important country on the
global stage. We're making this official. So if you are
on the cusp of maybe making the same decision, you're
on the fence. You don't you're not sure. Join France.
So we might see between today and September a lot

(07:41):
of other countries going like we're going to do the same,
we're going to join France. And I think he's trying
to create momentum.

S1 (07:49):
Oh boy, what a succinct and absolute spot on observation.
I think you're absolutely right. I want to talk about
the UN role in a minute, but I have to
tell you that Benjamin Netanyahu just a few minutes ago,
put this on X. We strongly condemn President Macron's decision
to recognize a Palestinian state next to Tel Aviv in
the wake of the October 7th massacre. Such a move
rewards terror and risks creating another Iranian proxy, just as

(08:12):
Gaza became a Palestinian state. And these conditions would be
a launch pad to annihilate Israel, not to live in
peace beside it. Let's be clear the Palestinians do not
seek a state alongside Israel. They seek a state instead
of Israel. And he's right, is he not?

S6 (08:28):
Oh, absolutely. Uh, the since since the very beginning, since
the United Nation vote in 1947, in November, uh, to
to partition the region and to take over from the
British mandate since that that date forward the Arabs and

(08:49):
let's call them who they are Arabs. They're not Palestinians.
And I have nothing against Arabs. Okay. Uh, they need Jesus,
just like the Jews need Jesus. It's it's, you know,
we want to make that clear. Uh, but but the
Arabs that are, uh, you know, in the region they
are not interested in, um, in, in, in, in cohabitation

(09:10):
or coexistence with, uh, with Israel. They just want to
push Israel into the sea, you know, from the river
to the sea, Palestine shall be free. And, uh, it was, uh,
recently I was doing an interview in, in, uh, in
Israel of, um, uh, Caroline Glick and she mentioned she
in the interview. She said, you know, the two state
solution is a euphemism for the final solution.

S1 (09:33):
Isn't that true? Let me stop. Olivia, I'm coming up
to a hard break. There's so much. Don't forget your thought.
I'm going to pick it up exactly at that point
when we return. Okay. We've got a lot to talk about.
As you can tell, that's just our first segment together.
Stick around. So much more coming your way right after this.
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with Janet Parshall. So one of my favorite websites is memory. Memory.

(10:22):
I'm telling you this so that you I often get asked,
what are my sources? Here's one of my sources. Memory. Memory.
It is the Middle East Media Reporting Institute, and they
track over 100 stations in the Middle East. And in
so doing, what they do is they decide that just
let the facts go out there. You need to hear
for yourself exactly what's being said. And so they translate

(10:43):
what is on TV. So they just sent out on
X just a few minutes ago a Palestinian imam and
he said, and I'm quoting all Palestinians and Muslims should
prepare for the day they are called to arms. O Allah,
bring annihilation upon the Jews and the Christians. And yet
you've got Macron, the leader of France, who says that
he wants to recognize in September a Palestinian state. I'm

(11:07):
so glad that we have the opportunity to spend the
hour with Olivier Melnick. He is the president and executive
director of Shalom in Messiah. So let me go back
to this idea of, again, the UN. First of all,
the UN is markedly anti-Israel. Paradoxically, 1948, they recognized the
Jewish state. US first state to raise their hands and say, yes,
we affirm and move forward. But in order to have

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a state, you have to have boundaries. So even though
the Arab bloc of the United Nations and people who
are anti-Semitic like Macron crossed their fingers and click their
heels together and say, we want a Palestinian state. Can't
do it. Don't have the authority. They don't draw boundaries.
They don't determine what is going to constitute a nation state.

(11:49):
They can agree philosophically, which in the end is sound
and fury signifying nothing. But they cannot make a state
of Palestine, because if they could trust me, they would
have annihilated verbally the State of Israel long before this.
So give me your thoughts on this. It's it's it's
kabuki theater on a global stage from where I'm sitting.

S6 (12:06):
Yes. It's basically, uh, the problem, I think, is that, um, uh,
when Arafat came onto the scene, he was put onto
the scene in, in the, uh, you know, mid 60s,
early to mid 60s by, by, by the, uh, the
Russians and uh, uh, he came with this idea, by
the way, Arafat, the Palestinian leader of the PLO, Palestinian

(12:28):
Liberation Organization, was born in Egypt. Just saying. Uh, so, uh,
but Arafat was, uh, started to push this idea of
a displaced people of occupied land by Jews who stole
the land, and so on and so forth. And originally, uh,
most of the Arabs in the area, they said, we're
not Palestinians, we're just Syrians, Jordanians, Egyptians, uh, you know,

(12:51):
whatever you want to call them. Uh, they just did
not buy this, this concept of Palestinian. Well, uh, you know,
there is a, uh, a statement that, uh, I've used often, uh,
that is made by, um, and I don't know who
made it, but I give credit to three people. If

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you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough,
it will be believed. And either Hitler, Goebbels or Lenin
said that. So any of those three, you, you give
it to them.

S1 (13:22):
Take your choice. Exactly.

S6 (13:23):
Take your pick. Take your pick. Exactly. But, uh, this
is what's happened. The world has been, uh, fed this
lie about the Palestinian people, uh, and basically, uh, now
nobody's questioning the validity of that claim, but it goes
even back to before 1947. Uh, the right you know,

(13:44):
you can make a claim, of course, that Israel has
a biblical right to exist because that's, you know, the
boundaries are found in Genesis 15, and they're not going
to be exactly fulfilled the way they are delineated in
Genesis 15 until the Millennial Kingdom in the future. But, um, this,
this idea of, of land not being Jewish land, uh,

(14:04):
is is going against more than just the 1947 declaration.
In 1920, there was an important, uh, conference in Italy
in San Remo. And the San Remo conference established a
legal precedent, uh, for Israel to have the right to exist. Uh,
and and it built on the 1917 Balfour Declaration. So

(14:26):
you got 1917, 1920, 1947. And yet in the 60s,
Arafat comes onto the scene and starts feeding this lie
about the poor Palestinians. And now, you know, you look
at what, 60 years down the road, nobody's questioning it.
The only thing they're questioning is, how can we get
rid of the Jews faster than we, you know, because
they don't belong. But but we do belong in Israel.

(14:49):
This is the I mean, there's so many Muslim countries,
so many Christian countries, only one Jewish state the size
of new Jersey. So it's not about stealing land. It's
not about occupying. It's like you said earlier, it's demonic,
it's satanic. It's Satan wanting to get rid of the
Jews because he knows that they are going to call

(15:11):
on Jesus at the end of the tribulation, and Jesus
is going to return, and he is not going to
become the assistant for Jesus. He's going to be thrown
in the lake of fire and brimstone for all eternity.
And he doesn't want that.

S1 (15:23):
Amen. Boy, I can't wait. By the way. You know,
you said the Balfour Declaration. So let me go back.
It's it it's so important for us to be students
of history, particularly in this particular area. So if you
look at the deed to the land and look at Deuteronomy,
it's this massive swath of land that God gives the
chosen people. They've never, ever, ever, by the way, had
all of that land, it's been whittled down systematically. And

(15:45):
then along came this Balfour Declaration. And then you've got
this chunk of land that today is Israel and Jordan.
At that time they called it Transjordan and Churchill. For
all of the things I love about him, this I
have against him, he literally takes a map and he
goes here, draws a line and says, this will be Israel,
this will be Transjordan. Now it's because the British had

(16:07):
to pay back. Jordan, with Transjordan eventually becomes Jordan. The
Hashemite minority still rules that they still had to give honor.
And due to King Abdullah for a whole bunch of reasons.
And then this little tiny piece of land about the
size of new Jersey is all that's left. There's no
colonising whatsoever. They had a rightful claim to about ten times,
if not more, the land that was given to them

(16:28):
by a deed authored by God himself. And they've never
had that to talk about. Occupied land, that is utter history,
cannot support that in any way, shape or form, it
seems to me.

S6 (16:39):
No. And you know, you occupy if it's not yours.
But it again, it's been given to the Jewish people
and you're looking at the size of new Jersey that
will become, in the Millennial Kingdom, twice the size of Texas,
to give you an idea.

S1 (16:50):
Yes.

S6 (16:51):
So, so we we have a much greater piece of
land and, uh, and the Jewish people that beyond the occupation, uh, the, uh,
the other lies that we hear is, uh, the, uh,
you know, the genocide, uh, that is taking place. And
that's another big lie. And maybe we can talk about

(17:13):
that when we come back in the next segment.

S1 (17:15):
Absolutely. And I also want to get to Israel Derangement Syndrome.
You put this in a blog. It is superb. And
it's something that needs to be talked about. Well, again,
where does this hatred come from and how is it overcome?
How was it defeated? Olivier Melnick is with us. He
is the man behind Shalom in Messiah. I have a
link to their website. Fabulous work. Christians we are cannot.

(17:37):
We will not. We must not be silent on this
issue ever again. Especially now. Back after this. Olivia melnik
is with us president and executive director of Shalom in Messiah. Again,
if this is your first introduction, may it not be

(17:59):
your last connection with this wonderful ministry. It's a nonprofit
organization that exists to expose and fight anti-Semitism. In addition
to that, it helps to equip you and me, followers
of Jesus, to lead the Jewish people to Messiah. So
you said something before. And again, I don't think we
can say this too many times. I get emails from
people to this day who still think that Israel is
committing genocide, and these are from listeners to the program.

(18:22):
So I'm assuming they know the Lord as their personal savior.
It goes back to what you said before. If you
say a lie often enough and loud enough, people will
begin to think that it's the truth. In fact, you know,
I was reviewing some video earlier today, Olivier, where it
shows trucks of humanitarian aid coming into Gaza and Hamas
taking over the truck, stealing it, preventing Gazans from getting it. This,

(18:44):
you know, these terrorists. This is not the your next
door neighbor. These are terrorists. They don't care about their
people by any stretch of the imagination. It is about
annihilating the Jews and keeping power and control. So the
humanitarian aid very often gets blocked, and Israeli soldiers have
done so much to try to make sure that the
aid gets in and gets delivered, but this terrorist group
stops it. So if that's the rest of the story

(19:06):
that most people don't know and haven't heard, talk to
me about this genocide business. So they're attacked in what
is bigger if you do it by proportionality, bigger than
our nine over 11. If you look at the numbers
of Jews to the size of the population of Israel.
October 7th, 2023. It's huge. If someone had said to
the United States, don't you dare retaliate. Oh, look, you're
committing genocide because you decided to respond to the terrorists

(19:28):
that attacked your country, people would have said, are you
kidding me? And yet we turn around and her right
to defend herself is somehow committing genocide. Talk to me
about this.

S6 (19:38):
Well, and I think the numbers on October 7th. Uh,
correct me if I'm wrong. It would have been like
55,000 people around nine over 11 in the US, something
like that. So, uh, you know, and one life is
too many. But just to to give perspective, you know,
instead of like the 3000 555,000, um, uh, in, uh,

(19:59):
this genocidal, uh, lie. It's been going on for a
while now. And, uh, what people, the people that that
buy those lies and Jeanette, unfortunately, that includes a lot
of people in churches, and I speak in churches and
conferences all the time. And I have people come to
me and they come to me and say, I love Israel,
but and, you know, when I hear the the word,

(20:19):
but I go like, okay, here it comes. And, uh,
you know, they they have something they want to say
that is going to be not based on on facts.
That's usually going to be a double standard, and it's
going to be they're going to be very dogmatic about it.
They're going to be, uh, you know, very irrational, of course.
And they say something against Israel in one of those

(20:41):
topics is the topic of of genocide. They're saying, like,
you know, Israel is killing a bunch of, of, of
young children in, um, uh, in the Gaza Strip. And,
and as they've done in other parts of the territories, uh,
since 1948, the reality, Janet, is that, uh, approximately when

(21:01):
when Israel became a modern nation in 1948, uh, May 14th, 1948,
there was about, I think, 600,000 Arabs living inside the
land described as Eretz Israel, the land of Israel today.
And today, there's like a little over 2 million. So
if if 600,000 to 2 million is the definition of genocide,

(21:21):
then I don't understand what the word is all about
because they're saying they're killing Arabs right and left. They're
killing Palestinians. There's more Palestinians today than they were in
1948 by quite a bit. And as a matter of fact,
there is also there's been a growth very small, very small.
I think it's like 2%. There's been a growth in
the Gaza Strip in the last couple of years. Uh,

(21:45):
population growth, I think it's 2.2%. So I'm going like if, if, if,
if even in, in in a war zone like this,
you have a growth. Where is the genocide? It is.
Of course not. Uh, they can't, you know, show me
the receipts. They don't have anything. They don't have anything.
And they show, uh, there's a lot of filming, uh, uh,

(22:08):
that the Palestinian Authority and, and their, their cohorts, uh,
they're doing to send the world to show the, the
drama and the crisis. And I have some of those
videos on my computer. When you see a father holding
a child crying because the child is dead. And at
the end of the video, the child is moving his
leg and and it's just one of many of those

(22:31):
fake videos. You know, they call it pallywood. You know, uh,
a Palestinian Hollywood nonsense. Uh, there's no genocide. Now, this
being said, Janet, we have to be fair. Uh uh,
are are people dying? Yes. Is this a tragedy? What's happening? Absolutely.
Is is is is Israel squeaky clean? No. There's not

(22:56):
one government in the world that can that is squeaky clean.
Everybody makes the wrong decision. Everybody makes mistakes. So even
Israel is not 100%. You know, sometimes I'm accused of. Oh,
you're Jewish. You're a messianic Jew. You're Jewish. You love Israel.
Anything that Israel would do, you would always find a
reason why they would do it. No, I don't agree
with everything. But Israel has has the right to exist

(23:18):
and Israel is not committing genocide. They go out of
their way. And I'm sure you've spoken of that on
other shows of yours. They go out of their way
to let the Palestinian, quote unquote, know about when they're
going to drop something, a bomb or, or or attack something.
They drop leaflets. Who else in the history of, of

(23:39):
the world of warfare, of conventional warfare would say, hey,
we're going to attack tomorrow at noon. So if you
don't want to be killed, get out. Nobody would do that.
The element of surprise is one of the top, the
top most important thing in in warfare. Israel is saying
you're innocent. Get out of the way. We just want
to get those who are trying to to destroy us

(24:03):
and kill us. And using you as a shield, by
the way. So Israel is going out of their way to,
to to do the opposite of genocide.

S1 (24:12):
But again, this kind of blindness, if you're going through
life with a newspaper in one hand and the Bible
in the other should come as no surprise. And if,
as Olivier, Olivier and I have said several times during
the first half of this conversation, you recognize this as
spiritual warfare, then the father of lies and deception is
very much in this. There are so many lies. There

(24:33):
is so much deception. So when we come back, let
me go to this wonderful blog that you posted, Olivier,
about Israel Derangement Syndrome. Where does this marked rising animosity
against the Jewish state come from? We'll talk after this.
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(25:14):
online to in the market with Janet Parshall. So according
to Open Source who posted this on X today, here's
what's happening with the food situation in Gaza. Number one,
the UN requests aid for the Palestinians. Step two Israel
facilitates the entry of 900 aid trucks into Gaza, but

(25:36):
the UN refuses to collect the supplies. Step three the
UN turns around and blames Israel for starving the Palestinians.
This is, in the words of that great Radio Hall
of Famer, Paul Harvey. The rest of the story. This
is why you need to be a good Berean. You
have to test all things, particularly when it comes to
the nation of Israel. I am so glad I have

(25:58):
an opportunity, and I hope it's not my last time
to speak with Olivier Melnick, who's president and executive director
of Shalom in Messiah, a wonderful organization that exposes what's
going on in the area of anti-Semitism and then equips Christians,
followers of the Jewish Messiah, on how we can best
lead our Jewish friends to Yeshua. He has got a

(26:18):
wonderful website, Shalom and Messiah. Com. And also he wrote
a wonderful piece that I want to talk about now.
It's a blog called Is the World Suffering from IDs
Israel Derangement Syndrome? And when you stop and think about it,
you know, Mark Twain was right. He said, the greatest
classroom in the world is travel. All you have to
do is go to Israel. And I can absolutely assure
you your perspective on Israel will never be the same again.

(26:41):
I'm sitting in the balcony of the Knesset watching the
government take place, and there are Arab members of the
Jewish governing body that are co-equals participants. Proposed legislation lobbied
to get their ideas passed, just like we have here
in the United States and Congress. Is there an equivalent
with the PLO or the Palestinian Authority? Absolutely not. You
go to the old quarter of Israel. One of my

(27:02):
favorite restaurants is a hummus restaurant, and it's run by
Palestinians in Jerusalem. I'm sorry you didn't get that on CNN.
So there are no guns, no prohibitions, no problem whatsoever.
You move in and out of these various areas. Yes,
there's an Arab quarter. Yes, there's a Jewish quarter, the Christian,
the Armenian quarter. But the idea that somehow there's this

(27:22):
stark opposition, many people of Arab background and from the
Gaza will come in and they'll come back and forth
through the security gates, and there has to be security gates,
because otherwise they're going to blow up a bus or
detonate your vest, and your mother's going to hand out
candy to the neighborhood if you become a shaheed, a martyr.
So the bottom line is, there are so many facts

(27:42):
that need to be broken down, which goes to your
core question, Olivier, which is where is this? It's not.
If it's there, it's a reality. It's an existential question.
Where is Israel Derangement Syndrome coming from?

S6 (27:54):
Well, you know, I'm listening to your your stories about, uh, your,
your experience in Israel. And I want to add one
more to that before I go into the IDs. The
Israel Derangement Syndrome is, uh, you know, my last, uh,
tour that I and I took several trips for, for
for ministry purpose. But the last tour that I took
a group was in 2019, and we had a lady

(28:17):
on the last day of the tour, uh, fall right
in front of Damascus Gate, and I had to take
her to Hadassah Hospital, which is the big hospital in Jerusalem.
So I took her there. Uh, and, uh, we walk
in and she's, like, in bad shape. And I look,
I look at that desk, and the triage nurse is
a Palestinian woman in all hijab in the whole garb.

(28:39):
And I'm thinking, if this woman wanted to do some damage,
she is in a position to pick who's going to
be taking care of whom. And when. She's the triage
nurse at an E.R. hospital, a hospital er and I'm
thinking only in Israel would they allow this. Uh, it's just,
you know, that you see this everywhere if you care

(29:01):
to look. And if you have an open mind to reality,
as opposed to buying the lies that the world has
been feeding us, uh, For the last 60 years.

S1 (29:12):
And so can I add to your story because you
said you talk about your tour. I have one that's
almost identical. In fact, it's so interesting you said this.
So on one of my many trips to Israel, I
broke a bone in my foot. My foot went on
one of the cobblestones and I broke it. And I
was taken to Hadassah Hospital, where I was treated. And
when I was done, the director of the hospital knew

(29:33):
that I was there and knew that I was traveling
with some Americans. And he took me up to the
neonatal intensive care unit. He said, look at all these babies.
And I said, wow. And I was very impressed. Just
from a medical vantage point, the level of care that
was being given to these babies in need. And he said,
pick out the Arab babies. Now, pick out the Jewish babies.
And I said, I can't. He said, neither do we.
He said, everybody comes here, everybody gets treated. He said

(29:55):
outside our front door, we've had terrorist attacks. We have
taken Arabs and Jews into this hospital and taken care
of them, he said. We don't see a distinction now.
Those are the stories that will not make it on MSNBC,
CNN or any of the other alphabet soups that are
absolutely leaning to the left in an anti-Semitic posture. But
that's the reality of life in Israel. And people just
don't hear those stories.

S6 (30:16):
That that is a good story. Janet, I might have
to steal that one.

S1 (30:22):
You may, my friend.

S7 (30:23):
I will, I will give you full credit, I promise.
But this is a good one. So, uh, the.

S6 (30:30):
Now the Israel Israel Derangement syndrome. I kind of got, uh,
I kind of got excited a little while ago when I.
When I thought I came up with the word and
I thought, oh, you know what? People are going to
be able to relate to that Israel Derangement Syndrome because
they're used to hearing Trump Derangement Syndrome. So that's going
to stick. And then I realized recently that the word

(30:51):
actually the that phrase was coined 40 years ago by
Alan Dershowitz. I really respect the man. Wow. And I've
read several of his books, and I really think he's
a he's a great mind. Uh, and uh, so I'm
going like, okay, I'll still use it, but I'll give
him credit every time I mention the word. So, uh,
this is this is, uh, borrowed from, uh, you know,

(31:14):
Professor Alan Dershowitz. Uh, the idea is that this, uh,
Israel Derangement Syndrome is, you know, like I put in
my blog, it's a pandemic. It's infecting all walks of life,
all countries, all regions. In short, it's just basically the
whole planet is infected. And you look at all the
things happening. Uh, Janet, it's every day. Every single day.

(31:36):
More than once a day, I get stuff I have
to sift through. And, uh, I was talking to a
friend of mine who's actually. He's on my board of directors. Uh,
and yesterday I was saying, say, you know what? At
this point, I don't know how much longer I can
expose the lies and when I'm going to have to
start shifting and just making sure that I do whatever

(31:59):
I can to protect the Jews. We're getting there. And
and I've been exposing the lies for 25 years, educating
Christians for 25 years. I'm going to keep doing it
until the Lord takes me home. But right now, uh,
with this derangement syndrome taking a life of its own
and growing exponentially, I it's becoming almost unbearable to impossible

(32:22):
to to keep up. Uh, you know, I listed some
of those things on the blog, and I invite the
people listening to to go visit at Shalom. Com go
to the blog, and it's the most recent article that
I posted three days ago, two and a half days ago,
and I've already got so much more I could add
to it. Uh, but, uh, like a poster on a
bus stop in Italy, in Rome, Italy, uh, depicting a

(32:45):
Nazi uniform. And I link everything. People can find the source.
I don't just make it up. Okay, look at my link.
It's all there. And it's reputable links. Uh, Nazi uniform
with the, uh, sleeve. Um, on the sleeve, there is
a star of David, and it says 1948, 2025 on
the bottom of the poster. In other words, the Jews
are the new Nazi of the Middle East since 1948.

(33:07):
No words, but the picture says everything. Uh, you know, uh,
and it's something that just happened, uh, in France. I
don't know if you caught that one, Janet. Um, they
just elevated Captain Alfred Dreyfus, uh, to brigadier general after
130 years. Uh, after this, you know, accusing him of
being a spy, sending him to Devil's Island, bringing him back, uh,

(33:28):
you know, exonerating him of his of his guilt. But still,
you know, uh, it was a big deal in 1896.
And now they're saying, you know, let's give him a
high rank. Let's let elevate him to brigadier general. And
like I put in the blog, you know, everybody loves
a dead Jew. It's easier to deal with. So, you know,
they just give him this, this, this big rank. Uh,

(33:49):
in Germany, a woman said, haven't we learned anything from
the Holocaust on the public sign? She was fined €1,500.
Anything connected? Anything connected to anything remotely Jewish or Hebrew
or Israeli is, uh, it gives people a chance to
fight it. But but the problem is that it used

(34:11):
to be words, and that was bad enough. But when
it comes to anti-Semitism, it never ends with words.

S1 (34:18):
No. And such. Let's linger here because this is a
lesson in history. This we have to understand. In fact,
I think what bothers me the most, first of all,
the fact that we're seeing this, which on the one hand,
you know, biblically, I understand this. On the other hand,
it's like I'm stunned. One would have thought that after
the the demonic activity of the Holocaust, we would never
see anything like this again. But I watch and I'm

(34:40):
literally seeing people being told, don't wear your Star of David, uh,
putting the word no Jews outside of a classroom or
in front of a store, or telling Jews that they
cannot participate in activities that other people could participate in.
You know, it didn't go from zero to the Holocaust
under Hitler. It was incremental, you know, writing Juden on
the storefronts, getting the yellow stars, creating the ghettos. It

(35:03):
was systematic marginalization of the Jews. It didn't happen overnight.
How can we sleep through this? Because we are witnessing
the same systematic marginalization. If you pull out Jews and
you were to plug in any other people group and
these sorts of things were happening, you'd have the UN
leading the charge of saying, this is discriminatory, this is

(35:23):
anti fill in the blank. You cannot do this. This
is a human rights violation, but a blind eye and
a deaf ear when it is the Jewish people. That's
why I know beyond a shadow of a doubt this
is a spiritual issue.

S6 (35:35):
It is it is a spiritual issue. And in, you know,
we and it's not going to slow down. And, you know,
I was doing another show before, um, before I got
on with you. And, uh, I want to repeat a
statement that I made because, um, you know, we and
I've been saying this for a while now that, uh,

(35:55):
you know, I've been I've been monitoring this for 25 years.
Back in the days when I was at Moody in
the late 1990s and early 2000 and, uh, the I
think that because of the internet and this globalization of anti-Semitism,
we are now outside of the death camps, we are
now still in a worse situation than the 30s and

(36:16):
the 40s. It's worse than it was in the 30s
and the 40s. And it's going to get even worse.

S1 (36:20):
I could not agree with you more. Let's talk about
that when we return. Olivier Melnick is with us. And
by the way, he talked before about this blog, is
the world suffering from IDs Israel Derangement Syndrome? I did
that as a separate link so you can go right
to it, but that's not a reason not to visit
Shalom in Messiah. So shalom in Messiah. Com is the website.
But this article that we've been talking about, I've got
a direct link on our information page in the market

(36:42):
with Janet Parshall back after this. So I'm in Washington.
We love numbers. So let me give you a few numbers,
because it goes right to the heart of what Olivier
Melnick and I are talking about. So every year the
Anti-Defamation League tracks incidents of anti-Semitism, of harassment, of vandalism,
assault in the US. They've been doing this, by the way,
since 1979, and the numbers now are actually staggering. In 2024,

(37:08):
ADL tabulated 9354 anti-Semitic incidents across the US. That represented
a 5% increase from the 8873 incidents in 2023 and
a 344%. I can't even comprehend that 344% increase over

(37:29):
the past five years, and an 893% increase over the
last ten years. Now, you know, I'm just heartsick when
I hear that the flip side of that is Olivier.
I don't know, maybe it's an indicator that Jesus is
coming soon. We know his return is imminent, but when
I see those off the chart numbers, they're almost incomprehensible numbers.

(37:52):
I'm thinking Aslan is on the move. Why are we
seeing all of this right now? So you said something
very important that I want to go back to underscore,
which is it never stops with just the spoken word.
And I just gave some of those examples burning the synagogues, uh,
keeping kids from being able to attend classes, um, shootings
at various places of worship globally. By the way, this

(38:13):
is not just in the United States. So you think
it's going to get worse? I just talked about the
increase over a 5 to 10 year period of 344%
to 893% that those are, you know, as John Adams said,
facts are stubborn things. Those are pretty stunning numbers.

S6 (38:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's what's really to me was a
wake up call. Not that I did not expect it,
but um, in, uh, the ADL numbers, uh, there is um,
one number that I don't know if you saw that one. 46%
of adult adults worldwide hold significant antisemitic beliefs. This was released, uh,

(38:56):
this was released, um published on January of this year. And, uh,
the reason, the reason why I'm looking at that number
and it really is even more significant, and it should
be to you and I, Janet, is because of Zechariah
12 three. Uh, and let me read it for our audience.
But it will be in that day that I will

(39:17):
make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the peoples who
heave it up will be severely injured, and all the
nations of the earth will be gathered against it. So
Zechariah 12 three and by the way, Zechariah 12 nine says,
and it will be in that day that I will
seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem,
so that those are the two bookends. Okay? It's not

(39:37):
just going to be unpunished, but but for for the
time being. Right now, we are living in the days
of Zechariah 12 three being fulfilled in our lifetime. And friends,
we are We're halfway there, 46%.

S1 (39:54):
That truly, that's almost half of the population. I mean,
when you stop and think about it, it truly is staggering. So.
And please, just tell me this won't be our last conversation.
Should the Lord allow and should he tarry? There's so
many more things I want to talk to you about.
So let me just ask as we draw this hour
to a close. So we're believers in Christ. We follow
a Jewish Messiah. We have been crafted grafted onto the tree.

(40:17):
Salvation came by way of the Jews. The gospel is
delivered to the Jew first, then the Gentile. I mean
Scripture after Scripture, after Scripture. If we follow Jesus, if
we want to be conformed and transformed to his image,
and this modern day problem that's as old as the
Book of Genesis. If anti-Semitism is going to get worse,
not better, how do we followers of Yeshua respond? What

(40:38):
do we do?

S6 (40:40):
Well, Janet, I think that the best way to look
at it is to look at Matthew's gospel and in
Matthew's gospel in chapter 25. There is a parable of the. Actually,
it might be 26. Sorry, I'm looking at it right now. Uh, yeah.

(41:00):
The the. No. 25 the final judgment is the the
goat and the sheep. And, uh, I believe I'm Premillennial. Pre-tribulational.
What can I say? I'm a I'm a moody grad
and a DTS grad. I can't help it.

S7 (41:16):
So. So this is why I'm dealing with it. So, anyway, um, uh, but.

S6 (41:22):
Being pre-meal pre-trib, I believe the next event is the rapture,
followed by the signing of the covenant. You know, in
Daniel 927 and then seven year tribulation and so on
and so forth. And during the tribulation, the Jews are
going to really suffer. It's the time of Jacob's trouble. And, um, uh,
there's a at the end of the tribulation, the king
is returning and, and and he's talking to Gentiles who

(41:45):
have actually gone out of the way to, um, to
help Jewish people. Um, you know, and he's telling these
people for I was hungry. You gave me something. That's
Jesus talking to those Gentiles. You gave me something to drink.
I was a stranger. You invited me in naked and
you clothed me. I was sick and you visited me.
So on and so forth. And then the righteous are answer, Lord,
when did we see you hungry? And he says, for,

(42:06):
for when you did this to the Jewish people, my brethren,
you did it to me. So that principle can be
pulled out of the, the timeline of, of, of during
the tribulation. And we need to start applying that principle today.
Christians today need to look at their Jewish friends and
be ready to to do just that, to be, uh,

(42:31):
vocal about being their friends, being there for them, being
there to, uh, rescue and shelter. And Janet, actually, I
know we're running out of time here, but if you're interested,
we we should do another show where I can tell
you all about this other thing that I'm doing within
our ministry that I call a Jewish Underground Railroad to
help Jews at the time of need, which is fastly approaching.

S1 (42:55):
Like, I wouldn't take you up on that invitation. Yes.
Consider it done. We'll just work out the logistics of
the next time that we can get together. Give us
a specific way. And I cannot wait to talk about that.
Give us a specific way. And I love what you said.
You do this to the least of these. In other words,
we do something. We say something. Always, always, always. We
have a conversation that is through a grace narrative, but

(43:16):
it must necessarily be seasoned with salt. So if we
see anti-Semitism, we're not silent. We don't become complicit by
giving quiet affirmation. You have to say something. But number two,
I think we should be praying at the same time
that the Jewish people, which is the second part of
Shalom and Messiah's mission statement, that the Jewish people come
to know Jesus as their personal Savior, and maybe if

(43:37):
they can see how much we love the Jewish people,
who knows what doors that might open to be able
to begin a real change in that area. Olivier, these
hours go far too quickly. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I will get in touch with you immediately. We will
set up another conversation so we can talk about the
Jewish Underground Railroad. That's certainly has my curiosity piqued. I
bet it does yours as well. In the meantime, friends

(43:57):
in the market with Janet Parshall. Synopsis of each hour
is there just underneath it. It says program details and audio.
If you click that on, it takes you over to
the information page. There is a longer bio for Olivier Melnick,
our guest this hour at the underneath of that description
is Shalom and his website. Click that on. You're going

(44:17):
to see all kinds of fabulous information. But just to
make it easier for you, I've also made a direct
link to his recent blog just posted three days ago
is the World's Suffering from IDs Israel Derangement Syndrome? And
I think it's important for you to read that again
when you read it. You're going to understand on this issue,
particularly Bible in one hand, newspaper in the other. Olivier,

(44:38):
thank you for a great conversation. Thanks, friends. We'll see
you next time on In the Market with Janet Parshall.
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