July 18, 2025 • 44 mins
It is easy for believers to believe that women who have abortions have no Christian affiliation or background. But that simply is not true. On In The Market with Janet Parshall this week we had a sobering yet encouraging conversation with a woman who despite her Christian background chose to have an abortion. She shared the shame and struggle that she and others have gone through dealing with not only the loss of the child but the feeling that they have committed a sin that God will never forgive them for. Through her vulnerability we saw God’s love and forgiveness demonstrated as an encouragement to others who struggle with the same guilt and shame after their choice. At first blush the arguments of atheists against the belief in God sound plausible and logical and that often stops Christians in their tracks from engaging and challenging those who subscribe to such beliefs. But we gave you some tools to enter into the fray with the help of a regular friend of the program who used his skills as an apologist along with common sense biblical insight to address some of those common arguments. He showed us that underneath those high-minded words are arguments that cannot stand up to intense scrutiny and biblically grounded truth. China continues to push its agenda of world domination. We turned once again to a highly respected expert on security at home and abroad to get the latest from him about how President XI is preparing for war with Taiwan, how Chinese hackers were able to breach Microsoft and the multiple other avenues that government is using to wage war against the United States. Is it possible to win an argument with a narcissist? That is just one of many questions tackled by our expert in this damaging personality type as she continues to address your concerns by grounding her answers in solid therapeutic practice and solid biblical insight. As we come to the end of another week, the need for us to be ever vigilant watchmen on the wall does not subside. We invite you to sharpen your vision and discernment skills as Janet and Criag continue teaching us how to use God’s word as a defense against the enemies that attack our faith and our families
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Hi friend, thank you so much for downloading this podcast
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and gently but consistently pushes you out there into the
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It's Ray Comfort's book. Why? Jesus? If you listen to
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He is bold, unashamed of the gospel. And yet in
such a winsome way, he delivers a truth narrative to
the man in the street, so to speak. He's written
the book Why Jesus? To Teach You How to Walk Through,
by examples and through real conversations he's had on how
to share the gospel in exactly the same way. Listen,
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opt out clause. That's where we're supposed to go. And
in truth, how can we keep this good news to ourselves?
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Welcome to In the Market with Janet Parshall. Today's program
is where Janet and her husband, Craig, take some of
the stories making headlines this week and offer their insight
and analysis. Before they get started, let's take a quick
look back at some of the highlights from the week.
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That's what Thomas Nagel says when he talks about. He says,
I'm uneasy by the fact that some of the most
intelligent and well-informed people I know are believers in God,
and he says, it's not that I disbelieve in God
and naturally hope that I'm right. It's that I don't
want there to be a God. I don't want the
universe to be like that. So that always goes back
to the question of the intention, back to the existential question,
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to the ears of the heart, as opposed to just
the ears of the mind is, what do you want
to be true? Um, or is there something about this?
Because if you ask that question and they're like, no,
I'm not open to it, well, then no answer will do.
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The president knows how to leverage economic, uh, power in
order to force the Chinese to do things. Um, again,
they they recently, uh, concluded some trade negotiations. Uh, the
bad thing, and this is in my most recent column,
is that they've loosened export controls on sales to China
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of Nvidia artificial intelligence chips. Yeah, that was that was
done because the Chinese agreed to resume sales to the
US of of rare earth minerals, which are needed in manufacturing.
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The way we recover from trauma is we say, what
happened and how do we make sense of what happened.
And then we go further and say, how does our
story fit into God's story? And we start asking that question.
We look at millions of women deceived into destroying our
own children, and there's a reckoning we have to do.
But you're right. It's not above the gospel. It's not
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above the blood of Jesus Christ. But we have to
come to terms with the fact that we've been caught
up in something completely demonic.
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It is so hard to solve problems with someone who
is narcissistic, whether they have traits or full blown just
personality disorder. They will not be open minded, so they
can't tolerate being out of control and they can't tolerate
being wrong. They can't tolerate that experience of shame. And
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so they react in a nanosecond if they are confronted
on anything or they don't receive the affirmation or agreement,
they believe that they are entitled to.
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To hear the full interviews from any of those guests
go to In the Market with Janet Parshall and click
on past programs. Here's some other stories making headlines this week.
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The European Union on Friday agreed to an 18th package
of sanctions against Russia over its war in Ukraine.
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Dozens marched through Liberia's capital on Thursday as protesters called
for For accountability from President Joseph Boakai, his government over
economic conditions and alleged misconduct.
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US retail sales rebounded more than expected in June, but
the rise could be partly due to tariff driven price increases.
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Brazil's Congress voted Thursday to weaken environmental permitting rules despite
fierce opposition from environmentalists.
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Janet and Craig have lots to share, and they'll put
the first story on the table when we return. To
get more information or to download the podcast of any
of the interviews, go to In the Market with Janet Parshall.
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In today's world, people are more confused than ever about
truth and meaning. That's why I've chosen Why Jesus by
Ray comfort as this month's truth tool. Discover why Jesus
is the only path to everlasting life and learn how
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Janet Parshall. Happy Friday to you friends. Thanks so much
for joining us here on In the Market with Janet Parshall.
Craig Parshall is with me. He always joins me on
Fridays because Fridays we do things a bit different around here.
We take you literally into the marketplace of ideas. We
take a look at some of the things that are
being bought and sold, so that we can learn to
recognize what are vain and hollow philosophies and what our
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ideas predicated on truth, eternal truth that applies to all
people in all times and all places. And in so doing,
we learn how to practice applied Christianity. We become Bereans
where we're testing all things, and the end result is
being in the marketplace where I hope we're all going
to end up. We know better how to contend for
the faith. So we've got lots of topics on the
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table and before we dive into them, this really gives.
And I waited on Friday, by the way, until that
Craig could join me so that we could offer our
our thoughts on the passing of John MacArthur. Obviously a
lion in his own age who has influenced the church
capital C universal, probably in more ways than any of
us could possibly articulate. Our house, like so many, are
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filled with books written by John MacArthur. Commentaries, Bible studies
Craig has a John MacArthur Study Bible. He's got all
kinds of notes in it that follow the notes that
MacArthur made when he made that Bible. But I want
to share a personal story with you. Our son, Samuel,
went home to be with the Lord several years ago.
He died of cancer at the age of 36, and
I have never shared this publicly. But I want you
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to know that it was. His funeral was held at
John MacArthur's church at Grace Community Church, and I heard
someone say a long time ago, and I've never forgotten it,
that there are two places where the gospel must and
should be preached because you really have a captive crowd.
One is a wedding and one is a funeral. And
so we absolutely, positively wanted to make sure that the
good news of the gospel of Jesus Christ was shared
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at his funeral. And it was. And you can imagine
if it's Grace Community Church. There was no ambiguity whatsoever
in the pastor who led the service for our son Samuel.
So we're so very grateful for that. And it was
a very tender spot in our hearts. Even though we
live on the East Coast. Sam was working in the
West Coast. Uh, and so it was precious to have
John MacArthur's church say that this is where we're going
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to do his funeral. Also, I have to tell you
that as Sam was months away from stepping into eternity,
he was sharing John MacArthur's Bible study lessons with his daughters,
and they would gather together and he would lead them.
And he was very much personally being blessed and fed
by John MacArthur, not knowing that his days on earth
were numbered, as all of ours are. But his were
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shorter than he probably could have imagined, and he was
teaching his daughters at the same time through the teaching
of John MacArthur. So there is the national known John MacArthur.
And then there are those personal stories. And so to
know that our son's funeral was conducted at Grace Community
Church is very precious and very dear to our heart.
He will leave a legacy beyond generations. In fact, he
even made the statement at one point in time in
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his ministry that he would speak to generations after his death.
I think he was being profoundly prophetic, and I think
he was being absolutely spot on. Craig, some of your thoughts.
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You know, you mentioned a couple seconds ago that, um,
he is preaching and his teaching, uh, was such an
impact on our son. Uh, and that's the reason that
I was so excited to know that when my son
was out there in California, very close to where John
MacArthur's church was, uh, I was so excited about that
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fact because John MacArthur's anchor in everything he said and
everything he preached began and ended with, uh, with Scripture.
As a matter of fact, he had made a statement
at one time that a good sermon, as he defined it,
was something that would stand the test of time for
decades and decades. Because it's not anchored to circumstances, culture
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or specific circumstances of the age, but rather the ageless
truth of what Scripture is and what it says. And
as you pointed out, his study Bible is on top
of a number of other references and commentaries and other
Bibles on my desk. And I refer to it quite
a bit. So I was always very, very impressed with
his fidelity to the word. And in the years since,
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and I think his first sermon was around 1969. So
he had a very long and consistent emphasis on what
the Word of God had to say as, as he
preached it and as he taught it, both in his
church and also the theological school that he founded. Um,
and in today's confusion among some who say they're followers
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of Jesus, those who say that they are, uh, in
the clergy of the church, amidst all that confusion, the
reminder that John MacArthur gives me is we need to
consistently go back to the Word of God. That is
the measurement. That's the metric by which we measure truth
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from falsity.
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You know, I've been thinking since his passing how exciting
it must be for years and years and years to
preach about Jesus, to know him so intimately through his word,
through his prayer life, through his empowering by the Holy Spirit.
And then the distinction between all of that is precious.
And as important as that is, what in the world
is it like to finally be standing face to face
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with the Savior that you've been preaching about since 1969?
I mean, it really is sort of incomprehensible. And then
I thought, that's not an experiment experience relegated to just
John MacArthur. Every single one of us who have professed
with our mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in
our heart that God has raised him from the dead.
Every single one of us will have that experience where
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we shall behold him face to face. I face. I
remember Sandi Patty singing that song years ago. I could
not ever hear that without crying because I thought it's
one thing to read his word. It's one thing to
have praise and worship. It's another thing to have deep,
intimate prayer with your Savior. But what will it be like?
It's like, and I love C.S. Lewis. This is the
idea that you're really pining for another country. We were
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made for someplace else, and that's exactly the truth. We're
made to be in the presence of Jesus Christ. How
exciting it must be for John MacArthur. It's still we
still grieve, but we grieve not as those without hope.
So we need to pray for his wife and his
children and his grandchildren and his great grandchildren, and to
understand that there is that long goodbye and that parting.
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But what a comfort to know that he is absent
from the body and present with the Lord. That's not
a promise relegated to John MacArthur. That's a promise relegated
to every single one of us. And as you think
about someone who's known internationally and you think about their death,
I think to myself how different it would be for
that family personally if Jesus wasn't a part of that story.
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I mean, I do not know how someone stands before
an open grave without knowing that Jesus has conquered death,
and that those of us who have received him as
Lord and Savior when we breathe our last will be
according to the promises in Scripture. And every promise made
in Scripture is a promise that has been kept or
will be kept in the future. We will be absent
from the body and present with the Lord. If he
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could come back and talk right now. I bet it
would be very interesting to hear what his sermon would
be now that he's seen Jesus.
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Yeah, and I think a lot of us think about that.
You know, I look back and, uh, there are several, uh,
people in deeply embedded in Christian ministry and Christian leaders,
men who really influenced my life. And as they died
and went into the presence of God, not just preaching
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and teaching about God, not just sacrificing their lives, um,
happily and their time and pursuits, um, to spread the
gospel of Jesus Christ, but to be in his presence.
So I learned to to stop and think about their
lives in terms of what, how, and in what way
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can I benefit in my walk with the Lord from
what they've shown me, what they've taught me by their lives,
by the living out of their faith. And I think
when we lose a Christian leader like John MacArthur or
other ministers, those involved in ministry. Missionaries who have impacted
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our life, who have made a difference for the kingdom.
What can we learn from them? Remember Jesus's beginning ministry
was a small group of men disciples that he discipled
so that they could go out and make disciples of
others who would then make disciples of others. What can
we learn from their life and how can it change
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our walk with the Lord?
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Yeah. Important. So again, we grieve at the loss of
a loved one, whether we just known them from afar
through their writing, through their teaching, through their preaching, or
we know them personally. But again, for those of us
who know that death has been conquered, that the grave
can no longer declare victory and the sting of death
has been eternally removed, we praise God that we know
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beyond a shadow of a doubt, that a man who
spent his entire life preaching about Jesus is now fellowshipping
personally with Jesus.
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That, and that is the good news that didn't go away.
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Yeah. And that should take all of our breath away.
And if you don't yet know him as Lord and Savior,
you don't understand this conversation. But I'll tell you what.
Every single one of us, when we die, will need
to stand before the King, whether you believe in it
or not. And this is Pascal's wager. If Craig and
I are right about who Jesus is and how the
only way to God is through His Son, Jesus Christ,
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if we're right and you're wrong, you've lost everything. If
you're right and Craig and I are wrong. You've lost nothing.
You've lost. I mean, Pascal's Wager really says it's as
clear as black and white, night and day. Either God
is exactly who he said he is or he isn't.
There is no in between. So if you've not yet
answered the question about who Jesus Christ is, let me
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ask you to consider him today. All right. Let's talk
about some of the subjects that we've got. And we
have a long stack of them. Craig. Um, it's interesting
because when you take a look at so many of
the issues that are out there, um, you and I
have to take the Bible in one hand and the
newspaper in the other, which I think is tremendously, tremendously important.
So let's talk a little bit about the fact that
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we've got churches out there that are promoting and talk
about a segue from John MacArthur. So I found an article.
It's a couple of years old, but there is a
female pastor by the name of Rebecca Todd Peters. Uh,
and when she puts on the garments of religiosity, she
wears a pink sash over her clerics collar with the
initials for Planned Parenthood. That. I don't know where you're sitting,
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but from where I'm sitting, that looks an awful lot
like blasphemy to me. How can you purport to be
a teacher of the word? A person who understands and
believes in God's Word. And then stand up there and
wear the garments, the costume, if you will, of an
idea that's 1,000% in opposition to what the Word of
God has to say. But this particular female pastor believes
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that killing an unborn child because she's a girl is
a moral good. Killing an unborn boy because he has
down syndrome is an act of love. Killing an unborn
baby just because you forgot to use birth control and
don't want to be a parent is yet an act
of grace. In fact, more to the point, it is
a blessing. And she has been speaking about that at
various events where she's appearing, so I'm not quite sure.
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In fact, she's got an interesting career. And again, this
wearing the garment with the initials of Planned Parenthood, right
underneath the name Planned Parenthood with the two P's on
a pink background. I don't know, is she an evangelist
for an abortion and Planned Parenthood? Or is she an
evangelist for the Gospel of Jesus Christ? We'll throw in
some other thoughts on this when we return. So this
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really is a study. In contrast, you've got John MacArthur,
who was unwavering and courageous in his commitment to solid
Bible teaching and what the word had to say. And
he was unapologetic. And he knew sometimes that his message
would fall hard on some ears who wanted the Christian
doctrine to be elastic, that you could pull it and
stretch it to wrap it around any cultural current issue
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we were dealing with. And in so doing, you torturously
redefine what the gospel message is all about. He wouldn't
do that. And may his tribe increase. I mean, it's
thus saith the Lord. Exegesis is taking out of Scripture
what it's there to tell us, not Isaiah, Jesus making
it say something that it doesn't say. So again, I'm
going back to an article that was put up by
the Religious News Service two years ago. But I think
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it's germane today to show this dichotomy in recognizing wolves.
If I can be so bold and to understand that
we are told that in the latter days we're not
going to be able to receive sound doctrine anymore, and
we're going to look for the stuff that tickles our ears,
and there's going to be a great falling away, and
they're going to be people who are taken captive through
vain and hollow philosophies. Colossians tells us that. And then
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Matthew reminds us that these are people, even if they're
wearing pink sashes with the initials for Planned Parenthood, are
ravenous wolves. I don't think we can say that with humility.
We can say it with grace, but it is seasoned
with the salt of truth, and we cannot shy away.
Because my guess is, should the Lord tarry as we
go forward, you're going to see more wolves and less
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brave Christians. So the only way we become courageous Christians
is by being wedded to the word and being unashamed
of what it has to say. So this particular female pastor,
the Reverend Rebecca Todd Peters, again wearing this pink stole
bearing the initials for Planned Parenthood, uh, gets up and preaches,
according to a story that was put up by Religious
News Service. And she said abortion makes many people profoundly uncomfortable.
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And by the way, she was speaking at the Community
church of Chapel Hill, which is a Unitarian Universalist congregation.
I will leave the response to you to that. So again,
she wanted to talk about the story of abortion. And
she is also a professor of religious studies at Elon University,
where she heads the Abortion and Religion Project. One of
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these things is not like the other. I'll leave you
to figure that out. She's best known, by the way,
according to some, as one of the country's leading ethicists
on abortion rights. That, ladies and gentlemen, is an oxymoron.
Is there anything ethical about abortion? So I'm not sure
how one becomes an ethicist on the subject of abortion.
But in response to the Supreme Court toppling the House
of Roe and putting in place instead the Dobbs decision.
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She was speaking quite a bit on this particular topic,
and she said that she wanted to make sure that
her denomination remained truthful, to quote, and faithful to reproductive rights.
And so Religious News Service pointed out that while most
liberal Protestant denominations, to their credit, at least they are
recognizing there is a liberal strain in Denominationalism, including Lutheran, Presbyterian, Methodist,
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and University. Unitarian Universalists have official positions in support of
reproductive rights. Peters said these groups. This is according to
Religious News Service. Too often duck conversations about abortion, leaving
Catholics and evangelical Christians to win the day with messages
that abortion is a sin. Well, it isn't about Catholics
and evangelical winning the message. It's what the word has
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to say, Reverend Peters. That's the definitive truth. It isn't
the opinion of an evangelical or an opinion of a Catholic.
It is. What does the Word of God say? So
her mission is to step into that void. And so
she is happy to talk about reproductive history. Gladly. And
she volunteered that at 55. She's married, has two children,
and has undergone two abortions, and said, and I quote,
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I felt God's presence with me as I made the
decision to end two pregnancies. And I felt no guilt,
no shame, no sin. A forced pregnancy or birth is
not holy. Craig. Your thoughts?
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Um, let's go back to that statement, uh, from, uh,
the Reverend where she says that abortion is a blessing. Now,
how do you define a blessing? And how do you
determine what is and is not something that God would bless? Well,
you go to his word because he's given us answers
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from Genesis to Revelation, um, 6 to 6 books. And
if we read them, I think you see the answers
you will find nowhere from Genesis to Revelation. Any implication,
let alone any definitive statement, that God has embraced, approved,
or blessed both abortion as a procedure, as a fact,
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as an occurrence, or those who perform abortions. The blessing
is not there. I'll tell you what. The blessing, uh,
how God directs his blessing on that issue. If you
go to the book of Exodus, the very first chapter
in the Old Testament, where the midwives who delivered, um,
the babies of the Jewish women in occupation under the
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brutal hand of the King of Egypt and his minions,
the king declared and commanded them when they see in
the birthing stool a baby coming, and if it appears
to be a male, they are to kill it. Well,
that's a form of late term abortion, if not infanticide.
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What does God do? Did God bless the King of
Egypt's command, or did he bless the midwives who said
they feared God? This is what Exodus says. Because they
feared God, they refused to obey the commandment from the king.
And as a result, we're told that God treated them well.
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He blessed them. So the blessing comes from those who
Revere and obey the fact of God's sanctity of life,
because he's the creator of life.
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Wow. Again, study to show yourself approved unto God. How
do we know what truth is? By getting into his
word Dwight L Moody. Again, the Bible is the straight
stick of truth. So you use the metric of his
word to measure crooked ideas that are out there. God
knew us before we were even conceived. The Bible tells
us he knows the numbers of hairs on our head.
He knows our numbers of days on this earth. He
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made us either male or female, doesn't make mistakes. There's
no 92 different genders in there, and you don't change
what God has already designed, and taking the life of
another human being, being born or unborn. You want to
talk about immoral? That's immoral because it is an absolute
amazing abandonment of the idea that each and every one
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of us is made in the image of God, and
that's why abortion is wrong. Back, back after this. We
can all safely say that society seems to be decaying
before our eyes, and in the market, we're tackling the
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issues head on from a biblical perspective, so you'll know
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Market with Janet Parshall. So we're going to get into
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this conversation about whether or not our tax dollars should
be funding NPR and PBS. Now, when this idea was
set up, originally, it was not the state that we're
in now. Now, you and I can't even count how
many opportunities we have to download information. You can pick
a la carte, whatever streaming you want, whatever streaming platform
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you can watch, whatever you want. You can pick and choose.
And by the way, for the overwhelming majority of these platforms,
you have to pay for them. You become a subscriber. Okay.
When PBS and NPR were up and running, this was
the idea that it was supposed to be an outlet
for all Americans, and its initial mission statement meant it
was to be 1,000% nonpartisan, and it was supposed to
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represent the amalgamation of worldviews. Now, this the reality is
that's not happening. And I'm going to give you some
evidence to that. And I'm going to say why the
time has come to say, wait a minute. If you've
got subscriptions to all of these other platforms in the
small percentage. And it's interesting how NPR loves to point out,
and PBS loves to point out, that it's a small
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percentage given to them by American tax dollars vis a
vis federal funding. So this isn't a matter of them
turning out the lights. It's a matter of them now
recalibrating and becoming a subscription entity, just like all of
the other streaming platforms that are out there. Why this
issue now has come to the forefront is because a
little bit after midnight last night, the House passed a
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bill defunding foreign aid and public broadcasting. And as speaker
of the House Mike Johnson said, this isn't the end,
it's the beginning. And that they look forward to passing
additional rescission bills throughout the 119th Congress. So Rescissions mean,
it's time for the government to take back funding. So
it's very clear with Doge and some of the things
that this administration has said, that they're cleaning house in
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a myriad of ways, not the least of which is financially.
And so all of a sudden now, this question of
whether or not the funding from our tax dollars to
these two particular broadcast entities, PBS and NPR, whether or
not it's right and appropriate and true is something worth considering.
So here is the CEO of NPR. Have a listen
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to what she said.
S12 (27:33):
When it comes to the accusation of bias, I would start,
as I always start by saying, which is we, of course,
are a nonpartisan organization and we want to serve and
are required to serve the entirety of the American public.
S1 (27:47):
Okay. So she just made the direct, the directive that
they're nonpartisan. So leave it to the world of X.
Somebody put together this montage of tweets that were sent
out from this individual, the CEO of NPR. Have a listen.
S13 (28:01):
We're defunding NPR. Finally, I thought it'd be appropriate to
maybe read some of the craziest tweets from Catherine Maher,
who is the CEO, putting the glasses on here. I'm
so done with late stage capitalism. America is addicted to
white supremacy. I do wish Hillary wouldn't use the language
of boy and girl. It's a racing language for non-binary people.
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Lots of jokes about leaving the US and I get it.
But as someone with cis white privilege, I'm thinking I'm
staying and investing in ridding ourselves of the specter of tyranny.
Never underestimate the ability of white people to censor ourselves.
White silence is complicity. I'm white so my hair doesn't
automatically carry with it the freight of my race and
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everyone else's encoded assumptions. I'm grateful that those who have
pointed out my phrasing could be understood as trans erasure.
Horses inspire all, horses inspire all, and foster a sense
of identity. More kids should have access to these incredible animals,
but most horse spaces are white spaces. I know that
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historic white woman voice. I was taught to do it.
I've done it. That's whiteness. What is that deranged, racist
sociopath ranting about today? I truly do not understand. Again,
Catherine Maher. This is not me. How did you had
a dream? When Kamala and I were on a road
trip in an unspecified location, sampling and comparing nuts and
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baklava from roadside stands. Woke up very hungry.
S1 (29:36):
So I think just a precursory flyover of those tweets
let you know that she is neither non-partisan nor unbiased
in her approach. In fact, the Media Research Center has
taken a look at one example NPR there Fresh Air program. Uh,
NPR's Fresh Air guests are 100% liberal. They have had 36,
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by the way. Just within a short time period, 36
liberal guests, zero conservative guests. So again, it's this was
the mission statement supposed to be a public broadcast entity?
That was, I'll use a popular word, all inclusive. It's
anything but. So again, Catherine Meyer shows up on CNN.
She is the CEO. And again, she's telling broadcasters to
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fight to stay funded. Have a listen.
S14 (30:21):
What do you say to Republicans who argue the funding
is a waste of taxpayer dollars? And consider your outlet
to be a biased propaganda machine?
S12 (30:30):
Well, I would take those two things apart. Number one, 70%
of all funding goes directly to local stations. NPR receives
1 to 2% of national funding on an annual basis.
We're talking $3 million $5 million. It's not much. I
think unfortunately this is cutting off their constituents noses to
spite your face. It doesn't help anyone to take this
funding away. As far as the accusations that were biased,
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I would stand up and say, please show me a
story that concerns you, because we want to know and
we want to bring that conversation back to our newsroom.
We believe that as a public broadcaster, we do have
an obligation to serve all Americans, and we need to
make sure that our coverage reflects the interests and perspective.
And we hear from Americans across the political spectrum, that's
important to us, and we want to make sure we
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live up to that.
S1 (31:15):
Well, you just heard her tweets. And so there's several
examples I just told you about the guest list on
NPR's Fresh Air. And yet she also makes the point
that it's 1 to 2%, 3 to $5 million. That's
pocket change. Then why are you fighting so hard to
keep the funding? But again, that means that this is
now a shift, a paradigm in what's going on in
these kinds of media outlets. A subscription model, if your
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local PBS is an entity that you love and support,
then write the check and love and support them. I love,
by the way, call the midwife. I think it's a
tremendous show, but I want to see that on a
regular basis. That's a platform I should have to pay for,
just like any other platform that's out there. So Craig,
give me your thoughts. I've got more to add to
this story, but give me your thoughts because you really
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have to go to what this was originally designed to be.
It is inarguable, and I think it's foolishness to try
to advocate a case that says we are unbiased. Give
us an example. I mean that you you don't have
to have a degree from Harvard School of Government to
be able to see that there is a palpable bias here.
And so the time has come, and the federal government
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basically said, look, it is 1 to 2%. It's 1
to 2% that we're not going to send any more
to an entity. That number one really is kind of
outgrown its original mission statement. And number two has a worldview.
God bless. You have a worldview, but the federal government's
not going to pay for it.
S11 (32:34):
Well, I think one of the best arguments against giving
a single dollar to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which
is then the entity that funds PBS and NPR, is
the constitutional doctrine of compelled speech. Americans are being compelled, required,
because we're required to pay taxes, which I have no
problem with in terms of, you know, violating the Constitution.
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I think it is a the right of and the ability,
I should say, power of government, uh, to have reasonable taxation.
But it is compelled speech for us to pay taxes
that in any way go to positions we disagree with.
That's the same as if you tell a Christian baker
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that they have to put a cake, a cake that
has a message that violates their sincerely held religious beliefs
or any beliefs, regardless of whether they're secular or religious. So,
number one, it's compelled speech. It's unconstitutional. It should have
been attacked a long time ago. But number two, on
the practical basis, you know, there's a difference between nonpartisan
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basically every nonprofit organization says we're nonpartisan means we're not
officially in favor of one party or the other, but
that's a general statement. Non-biased is a very specific statement that, uh,
PBS says on its X or used to be Twitter uh, account.
They said we are and continue to do so. We
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are a non-biased Highest form of news and information. And yet,
that is absolutely untrue. For people like you and I, Janet,
who have for years and years followed the news and
information that NPR and PBS have broadcast over and over again.
We have seen the rampant bias always in one direction,
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never in the other direction. And from time to time,
there are those who used to work in PBS or
NPR who, after leaving, regardless of whether they're conservative or
whether they're liberal or whether they're libertarian, will say, okay,
now that I'm out of that place, you got to
understand it is entirely politically and sociologically biased.
S1 (34:49):
So let me tell you where we are in this process.
So the Senate voted yesterday to take back 1.1 billion
from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which provides funding for NPR,
PBS and local stations. The house approved it after midnight
last night. So that means that now, after more than
half a century, the federal government will no longer be
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supporting NPR, which I think is extremely important. Um, there
is a piece that the Free Press put out by
Uri Berliner, and in fact, we actually talked about this
before when some of this conversation started about potentially defunding.
He was a veteran at the public radio institution, and
he said the network lost its way when it started
telling listeners how to think. And so Uri writes, um,
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that he said, you know, the stereotype of the NPR listener,
an EV driving world playing tote bag carrying coastal elite.
It doesn't precisely describe me, but it's not far off.
I'm Sarah Lawrence, educated, raised by a lesbian peace activist mother.
I drive a Subaru and Spotify says my listening habits
are most similar to people in Berkeley. I fit the
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NPR mold. I'll cop to that. So when I got
a job here 25 years ago, I never looked back.
and he said, and I quote him, this is an
insider from NPR. NPR has a liberal bent, it's true.
But during most of my tenure here, an open minded,
curious culture prevailed. We were nerdy, but not knee jerk
activists or scolding. In more recent years, however, that has changed. Today,
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those who listen to NPR or read its coverage online
find something different. The distilled worldview of a very small
segment of the world population. Now there's more to this story,
and I have some more audio. Again, how the Bible
somehow works its way into funding discussions on Capitol Hill.
I think you're going to find this interesting back after this.
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So the big news, and this has been a discussion
here in Washington, DC for over 40 years, that somehow
the federal government stopped funding this particular media outlet, NPR
and PBS, to the tune of $1.1 billion, by the way.
And now, after 40 plus years of conversation, it looks
like it's going to happen. Short of any distinctions that
will be hammered out now because it's been passed both
in the House and in the Senate, in conference committee,
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it is headed to the president's desk, where he will
sign this rescission bill into law, which means the money
will be taken away from PBS, which means, like several
not for profit entities, you have to raise your own
funds that you're not going to get the money from
the government. And if you believe you have an idea,
if you have a compelling content that you believe people
love and support, then they're going to pick up the
(37:33):
phone and they're going to give to keep that entity going.
But why should this one not for profit entity have
been picking the pockets of Americans for decades? In fact,
the gracious thing would have been if NPR or the
Corporation for Public Broadcasting would have, on its own volition,
stepped back and said, we are now going to refuse
federal funding. They didn't do that. So they had to
(37:54):
make it a cause celebre. They had to make it
a battle royale. And now they're embarrassed because the funding
has been taken away. By the way, this is one
of the reasons why they've lost their way. NPR, December 31st, 2020.
Sent out this tweet. A new poll finds 40% of
respondents believe in a baseless conspiracy theory that the coronavirus
was created in a lab in China. There is zero
evidence for this. Scientists say the virus was transmitted to
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humans from another species. You need to use a lifeline
or call a friend. Now we know definitively it did
not happen in a wet market. It did not happen
by a transmission from a bat to a human being.
It was created. And this is the intelligence documents we have.
This isn't hearsay. It was created in the laboratory in Wuhan.
The only question yet to be answered, and it probably
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never will be because they are the communists, remember, is
whether or not it was released by accident or on purpose,
but that human species being transmitted from another species. This
is how Corona jumped from a bat to a human being.
Anybody who understands biology understands that that takes an awful
lot of time to do. So. That idea actually fell
on its face right out of the gate. But here's
(38:58):
NPR saying it is a baseless conspiracy therapy theory. They're
welcome to believe that. I don't think the American taxpayer
should have to fund it. So an interesting moment. You know,
we often play wolf in audio. And that ties back
to what the Bible tells us in the book of
Matthew that there are people who act as though they're
preachers of the word, but in fact they're ravenous wolves.
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The other thing that I find distasteful, and I don't
care what side of the aisle it's being done on,
is when the word of God gets taken off the
dusty shelf by some member of government, and then it's
used as a cudgel to quote something in Scripture that
somehow they think will resonate and will be a compelling argument.
Jesus is not invited into the chamber. 98% of the time,
(39:40):
but he certainly was brought into discussion this week by
Senator Chris Coons of Delaware, talking about the potential defunding
of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. Listen to what he said.
S15 (39:51):
Jesus wept. Jesus wept. Most of us who grew up
in Bible believing households know this is the shortest verse
in all of Scripture. And in some ways the most
powerful one that haunts me. Jesus wept in John the
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11th chapter, 35th verse, because he had come too late,
seemingly to save the life of Lazarus. He wept because
someone he knew and loved had died. And it had
caused such harm and loss to his family. Today we
are doing something on this floor of this Senate. My
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Republican colleagues are doing something on the floor of this
Senate that I believe would make Jesus weep.
S1 (40:45):
Wow. Okay, that's quintessential eisegesis, by the way. We have
nothing in Scripture that would tell us how Jesus would
speak on the matter of defunding the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
But again, I've been around the block for decades in Washington, D.C.,
and this isn't the first time I've seen this happen.
And as I say, let me repeat myself. I find
it repugnant when it's done on either side of the aisle,
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because 99.9% of the time, it's always done out of context.
It's done for some dramatic flourish, and it really is distasteful.
So Jesus isn't weeping because PBS is being defunded. I
think Jesus weeps when people turn their back on him,
and when ideas that are antithetical to the truth of
God's Word are being espoused, regardless of what the outlet
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or the mouthpiece happens to be. Craig. Your thoughts?
S11 (41:29):
Uh, yeah. I also think that Jesus wept at the, uh,
the tomb of Lazarus, a friend. Um, but more than that,
on a more transcendent level, I think he was also
weeping for the fact that death and the grave were
a result of human sin for generations and generations, going
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back to the Garden of Eden and the choices made
there that were sinful. He also knew that as Jesus,
that he had come to do away with both the
sting of the grave as well as death itself. Through
his death on the cross, and his providing a ransom
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for the sin of the whole human race. I don't
see any connection between what might make. And by the way,
Jesus also was very troubled when he overlooked when he
stood on the overlook over Jerusalem and really felt the, uh,
(42:38):
the broken heart of God, uh, over the long history
of failing to recognize, uh, where God was leading his
people and the coming of his Messiah. And of course,
Jesus came and was rejected. Um proved himself to be
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who he was promised to be proved by the resurrection
that he was who he said he was, and he
had accomplished what God had promised him to to accomplish.
But I, I see nowhere, Janet, where Jesus wept over, uh,
some legislative bodies vote on an issue of funding.
S1 (43:18):
Yeah, go to my idea now. So putting that very
sloppy eisegesis aside for a minute, let's just talk about
this general philosophy of the government funding media outlets. You know,
there are a myriad of not for profit broadcast entities
out there, and the overwhelming majority of them don't take
government funding. But the National Public Radio and the Corporation
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for Public Broadcasting both have our name in it. Public
have been receiving money for decades. That was then. This
is now. Do you not think that the answer here
should be subscribers? If you love what your local PBS
is doing, we get fundraising letters over and over and
over again, and I know we're not the only people
that do. If you love it, support it, not the government.
S11 (43:59):
And if their content is as compelling and accurate and
powerful and necessary as they say it is, I don't
believe it is. But if they are right, then certainly
people will come, they will listen, they will support and
they will pay.
S1 (44:13):
Yeah. Exactly. Right. So again, if you love the content
that you're on a not for profit, you're going to
pay for it. You're going to support it financially because
you want it to keep going. So I have to
tell you this is a historic moment. As I say,
this has been talked about for decades in Washington, D.C.,
and now all it needs is the president's signature because
it has passed both houses. We do this for another hour.
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S2 (01:54):
Welcome to In the Market with Janet Parshall. Today's program
is where Janet and her husband, Craig, take some of
the stories making headlines this week and offer their insight
and analysis. Before they get started, let's take a quick
look back at some of the highlights from the week.
S3 (02:14):
That's what Thomas Nagel says when he talks about. He says,
I'm uneasy by the fact that some of the most
intelligent and well-informed people I know are believers in God,
and he says, it's not that I disbelieve in God
and naturally hope that I'm right. It's that I don't
want there to be a God. I don't want the
universe to be like that. So that always goes back
to the question of the intention, back to the existential question,
(02:37):
to the ears of the heart, as opposed to just
the ears of the mind is, what do you want
to be true? Um, or is there something about this?
Because if you ask that question and they're like, no,
I'm not open to it, well, then no answer will do.
S4 (02:51):
The president knows how to leverage economic, uh, power in
order to force the Chinese to do things. Um, again,
they they recently, uh, concluded some trade negotiations. Uh, the
bad thing, and this is in my most recent column,
is that they've loosened export controls on sales to China
(03:12):
of Nvidia artificial intelligence chips. Yeah, that was that was
done because the Chinese agreed to resume sales to the
US of of rare earth minerals, which are needed in manufacturing.
S5 (03:27):
The way we recover from trauma is we say, what
happened and how do we make sense of what happened.
And then we go further and say, how does our
story fit into God's story? And we start asking that question.
We look at millions of women deceived into destroying our
own children, and there's a reckoning we have to do.
But you're right. It's not above the gospel. It's not
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above the blood of Jesus Christ. But we have to
come to terms with the fact that we've been caught
up in something completely demonic.
S6 (03:58):
It is so hard to solve problems with someone who
is narcissistic, whether they have traits or full blown just
personality disorder. They will not be open minded, so they
can't tolerate being out of control and they can't tolerate
being wrong. They can't tolerate that experience of shame. And
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so they react in a nanosecond if they are confronted
on anything or they don't receive the affirmation or agreement,
they believe that they are entitled to.
S2 (04:30):
To hear the full interviews from any of those guests
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on past programs. Here's some other stories making headlines this week.
S7 (04:40):
The European Union on Friday agreed to an 18th package
of sanctions against Russia over its war in Ukraine.
S8 (04:47):
Dozens marched through Liberia's capital on Thursday as protesters called
for For accountability from President Joseph Boakai, his government over
economic conditions and alleged misconduct.
S9 (04:58):
US retail sales rebounded more than expected in June, but
the rise could be partly due to tariff driven price increases.
S10 (05:06):
Brazil's Congress voted Thursday to weaken environmental permitting rules despite
fierce opposition from environmentalists.
S2 (05:15):
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the first story on the table when we return. To
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S1 (05:40):
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Janet Parshall. Happy Friday to you friends. Thanks so much
for joining us here on In the Market with Janet Parshall.
Craig Parshall is with me. He always joins me on
Fridays because Fridays we do things a bit different around here.
We take you literally into the marketplace of ideas. We
take a look at some of the things that are
being bought and sold, so that we can learn to
recognize what are vain and hollow philosophies and what our
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ideas predicated on truth, eternal truth that applies to all
people in all times and all places. And in so doing,
we learn how to practice applied Christianity. We become Bereans
where we're testing all things, and the end result is
being in the marketplace where I hope we're all going
to end up. We know better how to contend for
the faith. So we've got lots of topics on the
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table and before we dive into them, this really gives.
And I waited on Friday, by the way, until that
Craig could join me so that we could offer our
our thoughts on the passing of John MacArthur. Obviously a
lion in his own age who has influenced the church
capital C universal, probably in more ways than any of
us could possibly articulate. Our house, like so many, are
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filled with books written by John MacArthur. Commentaries, Bible studies
Craig has a John MacArthur Study Bible. He's got all
kinds of notes in it that follow the notes that
MacArthur made when he made that Bible. But I want
to share a personal story with you. Our son, Samuel,
went home to be with the Lord several years ago.
He died of cancer at the age of 36, and
I have never shared this publicly. But I want you
(07:27):
to know that it was. His funeral was held at
John MacArthur's church at Grace Community Church, and I heard
someone say a long time ago, and I've never forgotten it,
that there are two places where the gospel must and
should be preached because you really have a captive crowd.
One is a wedding and one is a funeral. And
so we absolutely, positively wanted to make sure that the
good news of the gospel of Jesus Christ was shared
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at his funeral. And it was. And you can imagine
if it's Grace Community Church. There was no ambiguity whatsoever
in the pastor who led the service for our son Samuel.
So we're so very grateful for that. And it was
a very tender spot in our hearts. Even though we
live on the East Coast. Sam was working in the
West Coast. Uh, and so it was precious to have
John MacArthur's church say that this is where we're going
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to do his funeral. Also, I have to tell you
that as Sam was months away from stepping into eternity,
he was sharing John MacArthur's Bible study lessons with his daughters,
and they would gather together and he would lead them.
And he was very much personally being blessed and fed
by John MacArthur, not knowing that his days on earth
were numbered, as all of ours are. But his were
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shorter than he probably could have imagined, and he was
teaching his daughters at the same time through the teaching
of John MacArthur. So there is the national known John MacArthur.
And then there are those personal stories. And so to
know that our son's funeral was conducted at Grace Community
Church is very precious and very dear to our heart.
He will leave a legacy beyond generations. In fact, he
even made the statement at one point in time in
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his ministry that he would speak to generations after his death.
I think he was being profoundly prophetic, and I think
he was being absolutely spot on. Craig, some of your thoughts.
S11 (09:02):
You know, you mentioned a couple seconds ago that, um,
he is preaching and his teaching, uh, was such an
impact on our son. Uh, and that's the reason that
I was so excited to know that when my son
was out there in California, very close to where John
MacArthur's church was, uh, I was so excited about that
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fact because John MacArthur's anchor in everything he said and
everything he preached began and ended with, uh, with Scripture.
As a matter of fact, he had made a statement
at one time that a good sermon, as he defined it,
was something that would stand the test of time for
decades and decades. Because it's not anchored to circumstances, culture
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or specific circumstances of the age, but rather the ageless
truth of what Scripture is and what it says. And
as you pointed out, his study Bible is on top
of a number of other references and commentaries and other
Bibles on my desk. And I refer to it quite
a bit. So I was always very, very impressed with
his fidelity to the word. And in the years since,
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and I think his first sermon was around 1969. So
he had a very long and consistent emphasis on what
the Word of God had to say as, as he
preached it and as he taught it, both in his
church and also the theological school that he founded. Um,
and in today's confusion among some who say they're followers
(10:34):
of Jesus, those who say that they are, uh, in
the clergy of the church, amidst all that confusion, the
reminder that John MacArthur gives me is we need to
consistently go back to the Word of God. That is
the measurement. That's the metric by which we measure truth
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from falsity.
S1 (10:56):
You know, I've been thinking since his passing how exciting
it must be for years and years and years to
preach about Jesus, to know him so intimately through his word,
through his prayer life, through his empowering by the Holy Spirit.
And then the distinction between all of that is precious.
And as important as that is, what in the world
is it like to finally be standing face to face
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with the Savior that you've been preaching about since 1969?
I mean, it really is sort of incomprehensible. And then
I thought, that's not an experiment experience relegated to just
John MacArthur. Every single one of us who have professed
with our mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in
our heart that God has raised him from the dead.
Every single one of us will have that experience where
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we shall behold him face to face. I face. I
remember Sandi Patty singing that song years ago. I could
not ever hear that without crying because I thought it's
one thing to read his word. It's one thing to
have praise and worship. It's another thing to have deep,
intimate prayer with your Savior. But what will it be like?
It's like, and I love C.S. Lewis. This is the
idea that you're really pining for another country. We were
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made for someplace else, and that's exactly the truth. We're
made to be in the presence of Jesus Christ. How
exciting it must be for John MacArthur. It's still we
still grieve, but we grieve not as those without hope.
So we need to pray for his wife and his
children and his grandchildren and his great grandchildren, and to
understand that there is that long goodbye and that parting.
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But what a comfort to know that he is absent
from the body and present with the Lord. That's not
a promise relegated to John MacArthur. That's a promise relegated
to every single one of us. And as you think
about someone who's known internationally and you think about their death,
I think to myself how different it would be for
that family personally if Jesus wasn't a part of that story.
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I mean, I do not know how someone stands before
an open grave without knowing that Jesus has conquered death,
and that those of us who have received him as
Lord and Savior when we breathe our last will be
according to the promises in Scripture. And every promise made
in Scripture is a promise that has been kept or
will be kept in the future. We will be absent
from the body and present with the Lord. If he
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could come back and talk right now. I bet it
would be very interesting to hear what his sermon would
be now that he's seen Jesus.
S11 (13:09):
Yeah, and I think a lot of us think about that.
You know, I look back and, uh, there are several, uh,
people in deeply embedded in Christian ministry and Christian leaders,
men who really influenced my life. And as they died
and went into the presence of God, not just preaching
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and teaching about God, not just sacrificing their lives, um,
happily and their time and pursuits, um, to spread the
gospel of Jesus Christ, but to be in his presence.
So I learned to to stop and think about their
lives in terms of what, how, and in what way
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can I benefit in my walk with the Lord from
what they've shown me, what they've taught me by their lives,
by the living out of their faith. And I think
when we lose a Christian leader like John MacArthur or
other ministers, those involved in ministry. Missionaries who have impacted
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our life, who have made a difference for the kingdom.
What can we learn from them? Remember Jesus's beginning ministry
was a small group of men disciples that he discipled
so that they could go out and make disciples of
others who would then make disciples of others. What can
we learn from their life and how can it change
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our walk with the Lord?
S1 (14:37):
Yeah. Important. So again, we grieve at the loss of
a loved one, whether we just known them from afar
through their writing, through their teaching, through their preaching, or
we know them personally. But again, for those of us
who know that death has been conquered, that the grave
can no longer declare victory and the sting of death
has been eternally removed, we praise God that we know
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beyond a shadow of a doubt, that a man who
spent his entire life preaching about Jesus is now fellowshipping
personally with Jesus.
S11 (15:06):
That, and that is the good news that didn't go away.
S1 (15:08):
Yeah. And that should take all of our breath away.
And if you don't yet know him as Lord and Savior,
you don't understand this conversation. But I'll tell you what.
Every single one of us, when we die, will need
to stand before the King, whether you believe in it
or not. And this is Pascal's wager. If Craig and
I are right about who Jesus is and how the
only way to God is through His Son, Jesus Christ,
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if we're right and you're wrong, you've lost everything. If
you're right and Craig and I are wrong. You've lost nothing.
You've lost. I mean, Pascal's Wager really says it's as
clear as black and white, night and day. Either God
is exactly who he said he is or he isn't.
There is no in between. So if you've not yet
answered the question about who Jesus Christ is, let me
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ask you to consider him today. All right. Let's talk
about some of the subjects that we've got. And we
have a long stack of them. Craig. Um, it's interesting
because when you take a look at so many of
the issues that are out there, um, you and I
have to take the Bible in one hand and the
newspaper in the other, which I think is tremendously, tremendously important.
So let's talk a little bit about the fact that
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we've got churches out there that are promoting and talk
about a segue from John MacArthur. So I found an article.
It's a couple of years old, but there is a
female pastor by the name of Rebecca Todd Peters. Uh,
and when she puts on the garments of religiosity, she
wears a pink sash over her clerics collar with the
initials for Planned Parenthood. That. I don't know where you're sitting,
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but from where I'm sitting, that looks an awful lot
like blasphemy to me. How can you purport to be
a teacher of the word? A person who understands and
believes in God's Word. And then stand up there and
wear the garments, the costume, if you will, of an
idea that's 1,000% in opposition to what the Word of
God has to say. But this particular female pastor believes
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that killing an unborn child because she's a girl is
a moral good. Killing an unborn boy because he has
down syndrome is an act of love. Killing an unborn
baby just because you forgot to use birth control and
don't want to be a parent is yet an act
of grace. In fact, more to the point, it is
a blessing. And she has been speaking about that at
various events where she's appearing, so I'm not quite sure.
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In fact, she's got an interesting career. And again, this
wearing the garment with the initials of Planned Parenthood, right
underneath the name Planned Parenthood with the two P's on
a pink background. I don't know, is she an evangelist
for an abortion and Planned Parenthood? Or is she an
evangelist for the Gospel of Jesus Christ? We'll throw in
some other thoughts on this when we return. So this
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really is a study. In contrast, you've got John MacArthur,
who was unwavering and courageous in his commitment to solid
Bible teaching and what the word had to say. And
he was unapologetic. And he knew sometimes that his message
would fall hard on some ears who wanted the Christian
doctrine to be elastic, that you could pull it and
stretch it to wrap it around any cultural current issue
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we were dealing with. And in so doing, you torturously
redefine what the gospel message is all about. He wouldn't
do that. And may his tribe increase. I mean, it's
thus saith the Lord. Exegesis is taking out of Scripture
what it's there to tell us, not Isaiah, Jesus making
it say something that it doesn't say. So again, I'm
going back to an article that was put up by
the Religious News Service two years ago. But I think
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it's germane today to show this dichotomy in recognizing wolves.
If I can be so bold and to understand that
we are told that in the latter days we're not
going to be able to receive sound doctrine anymore, and
we're going to look for the stuff that tickles our ears,
and there's going to be a great falling away, and
they're going to be people who are taken captive through
vain and hollow philosophies. Colossians tells us that. And then
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Matthew reminds us that these are people, even if they're
wearing pink sashes with the initials for Planned Parenthood, are
ravenous wolves. I don't think we can say that with humility.
We can say it with grace, but it is seasoned
with the salt of truth, and we cannot shy away.
Because my guess is, should the Lord tarry as we
go forward, you're going to see more wolves and less
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brave Christians. So the only way we become courageous Christians
is by being wedded to the word and being unashamed
of what it has to say. So this particular female pastor,
the Reverend Rebecca Todd Peters, again wearing this pink stole
bearing the initials for Planned Parenthood, uh, gets up and preaches,
according to a story that was put up by Religious
News Service. And she said abortion makes many people profoundly uncomfortable.
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And by the way, she was speaking at the Community
church of Chapel Hill, which is a Unitarian Universalist congregation.
I will leave the response to you to that. So again,
she wanted to talk about the story of abortion. And
she is also a professor of religious studies at Elon University,
where she heads the Abortion and Religion Project. One of
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these things is not like the other. I'll leave you
to figure that out. She's best known, by the way,
according to some, as one of the country's leading ethicists
on abortion rights. That, ladies and gentlemen, is an oxymoron.
Is there anything ethical about abortion? So I'm not sure
how one becomes an ethicist on the subject of abortion.
But in response to the Supreme Court toppling the House
of Roe and putting in place instead the Dobbs decision.
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She was speaking quite a bit on this particular topic,
and she said that she wanted to make sure that
her denomination remained truthful, to quote, and faithful to reproductive rights.
And so Religious News Service pointed out that while most
liberal Protestant denominations, to their credit, at least they are
recognizing there is a liberal strain in Denominationalism, including Lutheran, Presbyterian, Methodist,
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and University. Unitarian Universalists have official positions in support of
reproductive rights. Peters said these groups. This is according to
Religious News Service. Too often duck conversations about abortion, leaving
Catholics and evangelical Christians to win the day with messages
that abortion is a sin. Well, it isn't about Catholics
and evangelical winning the message. It's what the word has
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to say, Reverend Peters. That's the definitive truth. It isn't
the opinion of an evangelical or an opinion of a Catholic.
It is. What does the Word of God say? So
her mission is to step into that void. And so
she is happy to talk about reproductive history. Gladly. And
she volunteered that at 55. She's married, has two children,
and has undergone two abortions, and said, and I quote,
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I felt God's presence with me as I made the
decision to end two pregnancies. And I felt no guilt,
no shame, no sin. A forced pregnancy or birth is
not holy. Craig. Your thoughts?
S11 (21:50):
Um, let's go back to that statement, uh, from, uh,
the Reverend where she says that abortion is a blessing. Now,
how do you define a blessing? And how do you
determine what is and is not something that God would bless? Well,
you go to his word because he's given us answers
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from Genesis to Revelation, um, 6 to 6 books. And
if we read them, I think you see the answers
you will find nowhere from Genesis to Revelation. Any implication,
let alone any definitive statement, that God has embraced, approved,
or blessed both abortion as a procedure, as a fact,
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as an occurrence, or those who perform abortions. The blessing
is not there. I'll tell you what. The blessing, uh,
how God directs his blessing on that issue. If you
go to the book of Exodus, the very first chapter
in the Old Testament, where the midwives who delivered, um,
the babies of the Jewish women in occupation under the
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brutal hand of the King of Egypt and his minions,
the king declared and commanded them when they see in
the birthing stool a baby coming, and if it appears
to be a male, they are to kill it. Well,
that's a form of late term abortion, if not infanticide.
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What does God do? Did God bless the King of
Egypt's command, or did he bless the midwives who said
they feared God? This is what Exodus says. Because they
feared God, they refused to obey the commandment from the king.
And as a result, we're told that God treated them well.
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He blessed them. So the blessing comes from those who
Revere and obey the fact of God's sanctity of life,
because he's the creator of life.
S1 (23:55):
Wow. Again, study to show yourself approved unto God. How
do we know what truth is? By getting into his
word Dwight L Moody. Again, the Bible is the straight
stick of truth. So you use the metric of his
word to measure crooked ideas that are out there. God
knew us before we were even conceived. The Bible tells
us he knows the numbers of hairs on our head.
He knows our numbers of days on this earth. He
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made us either male or female, doesn't make mistakes. There's
no 92 different genders in there, and you don't change
what God has already designed, and taking the life of
another human being, being born or unborn. You want to
talk about immoral? That's immoral because it is an absolute
amazing abandonment of the idea that each and every one
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of us is made in the image of God, and
that's why abortion is wrong. Back, back after this. We
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Market with Janet Parshall. So we're going to get into
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this conversation about whether or not our tax dollars should
be funding NPR and PBS. Now, when this idea was
set up, originally, it was not the state that we're
in now. Now, you and I can't even count how
many opportunities we have to download information. You can pick
a la carte, whatever streaming you want, whatever streaming platform
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you can watch, whatever you want. You can pick and choose.
And by the way, for the overwhelming majority of these platforms,
you have to pay for them. You become a subscriber. Okay.
When PBS and NPR were up and running, this was
the idea that it was supposed to be an outlet
for all Americans, and its initial mission statement meant it
was to be 1,000% nonpartisan, and it was supposed to
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represent the amalgamation of worldviews. Now, this the reality is
that's not happening. And I'm going to give you some
evidence to that. And I'm going to say why the
time has come to say, wait a minute. If you've
got subscriptions to all of these other platforms in the
small percentage. And it's interesting how NPR loves to point out,
and PBS loves to point out, that it's a small
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percentage given to them by American tax dollars vis a
vis federal funding. So this isn't a matter of them
turning out the lights. It's a matter of them now
recalibrating and becoming a subscription entity, just like all of
the other streaming platforms that are out there. Why this
issue now has come to the forefront is because a
little bit after midnight last night, the House passed a
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bill defunding foreign aid and public broadcasting. And as speaker
of the House Mike Johnson said, this isn't the end,
it's the beginning. And that they look forward to passing
additional rescission bills throughout the 119th Congress. So Rescissions mean,
it's time for the government to take back funding. So
it's very clear with Doge and some of the things
that this administration has said, that they're cleaning house in
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a myriad of ways, not the least of which is financially.
And so all of a sudden now, this question of
whether or not the funding from our tax dollars to
these two particular broadcast entities, PBS and NPR, whether or
not it's right and appropriate and true is something worth considering.
So here is the CEO of NPR. Have a listen
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to what she said.
S12 (27:33):
When it comes to the accusation of bias, I would start,
as I always start by saying, which is we, of course,
are a nonpartisan organization and we want to serve and
are required to serve the entirety of the American public.
S1 (27:47):
Okay. So she just made the direct, the directive that
they're nonpartisan. So leave it to the world of X.
Somebody put together this montage of tweets that were sent
out from this individual, the CEO of NPR. Have a listen.
S13 (28:01):
We're defunding NPR. Finally, I thought it'd be appropriate to
maybe read some of the craziest tweets from Catherine Maher,
who is the CEO, putting the glasses on here. I'm
so done with late stage capitalism. America is addicted to
white supremacy. I do wish Hillary wouldn't use the language
of boy and girl. It's a racing language for non-binary people.
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Lots of jokes about leaving the US and I get it.
But as someone with cis white privilege, I'm thinking I'm
staying and investing in ridding ourselves of the specter of tyranny.
Never underestimate the ability of white people to censor ourselves.
White silence is complicity. I'm white so my hair doesn't
automatically carry with it the freight of my race and
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everyone else's encoded assumptions. I'm grateful that those who have
pointed out my phrasing could be understood as trans erasure.
Horses inspire all, horses inspire all, and foster a sense
of identity. More kids should have access to these incredible animals,
but most horse spaces are white spaces. I know that
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historic white woman voice. I was taught to do it.
I've done it. That's whiteness. What is that deranged, racist
sociopath ranting about today? I truly do not understand. Again,
Catherine Maher. This is not me. How did you had
a dream? When Kamala and I were on a road
trip in an unspecified location, sampling and comparing nuts and
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baklava from roadside stands. Woke up very hungry.
S1 (29:36):
So I think just a precursory flyover of those tweets
let you know that she is neither non-partisan nor unbiased
in her approach. In fact, the Media Research Center has
taken a look at one example NPR there Fresh Air program. Uh,
NPR's Fresh Air guests are 100% liberal. They have had 36,
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by the way. Just within a short time period, 36
liberal guests, zero conservative guests. So again, it's this was
the mission statement supposed to be a public broadcast entity?
That was, I'll use a popular word, all inclusive. It's
anything but. So again, Catherine Meyer shows up on CNN.
She is the CEO. And again, she's telling broadcasters to
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fight to stay funded. Have a listen.
S14 (30:21):
What do you say to Republicans who argue the funding
is a waste of taxpayer dollars? And consider your outlet
to be a biased propaganda machine?
S12 (30:30):
Well, I would take those two things apart. Number one, 70%
of all funding goes directly to local stations. NPR receives
1 to 2% of national funding on an annual basis.
We're talking $3 million $5 million. It's not much. I
think unfortunately this is cutting off their constituents noses to
spite your face. It doesn't help anyone to take this
funding away. As far as the accusations that were biased,
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I would stand up and say, please show me a
story that concerns you, because we want to know and
we want to bring that conversation back to our newsroom.
We believe that as a public broadcaster, we do have
an obligation to serve all Americans, and we need to
make sure that our coverage reflects the interests and perspective.
And we hear from Americans across the political spectrum, that's
important to us, and we want to make sure we
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live up to that.
S1 (31:15):
Well, you just heard her tweets. And so there's several
examples I just told you about the guest list on
NPR's Fresh Air. And yet she also makes the point
that it's 1 to 2%, 3 to $5 million. That's
pocket change. Then why are you fighting so hard to
keep the funding? But again, that means that this is
now a shift, a paradigm in what's going on in
these kinds of media outlets. A subscription model, if your
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local PBS is an entity that you love and support,
then write the check and love and support them. I love,
by the way, call the midwife. I think it's a
tremendous show, but I want to see that on a
regular basis. That's a platform I should have to pay for,
just like any other platform that's out there. So Craig,
give me your thoughts. I've got more to add to
this story, but give me your thoughts because you really
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have to go to what this was originally designed to be.
It is inarguable, and I think it's foolishness to try
to advocate a case that says we are unbiased. Give
us an example. I mean that you you don't have
to have a degree from Harvard School of Government to
be able to see that there is a palpable bias here.
And so the time has come, and the federal government
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basically said, look, it is 1 to 2%. It's 1
to 2% that we're not going to send any more
to an entity. That number one really is kind of
outgrown its original mission statement. And number two has a worldview.
God bless. You have a worldview, but the federal government's
not going to pay for it.
S11 (32:34):
Well, I think one of the best arguments against giving
a single dollar to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which
is then the entity that funds PBS and NPR, is
the constitutional doctrine of compelled speech. Americans are being compelled, required,
because we're required to pay taxes, which I have no
problem with in terms of, you know, violating the Constitution.
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I think it is a the right of and the ability,
I should say, power of government, uh, to have reasonable taxation.
But it is compelled speech for us to pay taxes
that in any way go to positions we disagree with.
That's the same as if you tell a Christian baker
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that they have to put a cake, a cake that
has a message that violates their sincerely held religious beliefs
or any beliefs, regardless of whether they're secular or religious. So,
number one, it's compelled speech. It's unconstitutional. It should have
been attacked a long time ago. But number two, on
the practical basis, you know, there's a difference between nonpartisan
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basically every nonprofit organization says we're nonpartisan means we're not
officially in favor of one party or the other, but
that's a general statement. Non-biased is a very specific statement that, uh,
PBS says on its X or used to be Twitter uh, account.
They said we are and continue to do so. We
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are a non-biased Highest form of news and information. And yet,
that is absolutely untrue. For people like you and I, Janet,
who have for years and years followed the news and
information that NPR and PBS have broadcast over and over again.
We have seen the rampant bias always in one direction,
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never in the other direction. And from time to time,
there are those who used to work in PBS or
NPR who, after leaving, regardless of whether they're conservative or
whether they're liberal or whether they're libertarian, will say, okay,
now that I'm out of that place, you got to
understand it is entirely politically and sociologically biased.
S1 (34:49):
So let me tell you where we are in this process.
So the Senate voted yesterday to take back 1.1 billion
from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which provides funding for NPR,
PBS and local stations. The house approved it after midnight
last night. So that means that now, after more than
half a century, the federal government will no longer be
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supporting NPR, which I think is extremely important. Um, there
is a piece that the Free Press put out by
Uri Berliner, and in fact, we actually talked about this
before when some of this conversation started about potentially defunding.
He was a veteran at the public radio institution, and
he said the network lost its way when it started
telling listeners how to think. And so Uri writes, um,
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that he said, you know, the stereotype of the NPR listener,
an EV driving world playing tote bag carrying coastal elite.
It doesn't precisely describe me, but it's not far off.
I'm Sarah Lawrence, educated, raised by a lesbian peace activist mother.
I drive a Subaru and Spotify says my listening habits
are most similar to people in Berkeley. I fit the
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NPR mold. I'll cop to that. So when I got
a job here 25 years ago, I never looked back.
and he said, and I quote him, this is an
insider from NPR. NPR has a liberal bent, it's true.
But during most of my tenure here, an open minded,
curious culture prevailed. We were nerdy, but not knee jerk
activists or scolding. In more recent years, however, that has changed. Today,
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those who listen to NPR or read its coverage online
find something different. The distilled worldview of a very small
segment of the world population. Now there's more to this story,
and I have some more audio. Again, how the Bible
somehow works its way into funding discussions on Capitol Hill.
I think you're going to find this interesting back after this.
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So the big news, and this has been a discussion
here in Washington, DC for over 40 years, that somehow
the federal government stopped funding this particular media outlet, NPR
and PBS, to the tune of $1.1 billion, by the way.
And now, after 40 plus years of conversation, it looks
like it's going to happen. Short of any distinctions that
will be hammered out now because it's been passed both
in the House and in the Senate, in conference committee,
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it is headed to the president's desk, where he will
sign this rescission bill into law, which means the money
will be taken away from PBS, which means, like several
not for profit entities, you have to raise your own
funds that you're not going to get the money from
the government. And if you believe you have an idea,
if you have a compelling content that you believe people
love and support, then they're going to pick up the
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phone and they're going to give to keep that entity going.
But why should this one not for profit entity have
been picking the pockets of Americans for decades? In fact,
the gracious thing would have been if NPR or the
Corporation for Public Broadcasting would have, on its own volition,
stepped back and said, we are now going to refuse
federal funding. They didn't do that. So they had to
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make it a cause celebre. They had to make it
a battle royale. And now they're embarrassed because the funding
has been taken away. By the way, this is one
of the reasons why they've lost their way. NPR, December 31st, 2020.
Sent out this tweet. A new poll finds 40% of
respondents believe in a baseless conspiracy theory that the coronavirus
was created in a lab in China. There is zero
evidence for this. Scientists say the virus was transmitted to
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humans from another species. You need to use a lifeline
or call a friend. Now we know definitively it did
not happen in a wet market. It did not happen
by a transmission from a bat to a human being.
It was created. And this is the intelligence documents we have.
This isn't hearsay. It was created in the laboratory in Wuhan.
The only question yet to be answered, and it probably
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never will be because they are the communists, remember, is
whether or not it was released by accident or on purpose,
but that human species being transmitted from another species. This
is how Corona jumped from a bat to a human being.
Anybody who understands biology understands that that takes an awful
lot of time to do. So. That idea actually fell
on its face right out of the gate. But here's
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NPR saying it is a baseless conspiracy therapy theory. They're
welcome to believe that. I don't think the American taxpayer
should have to fund it. So an interesting moment. You know,
we often play wolf in audio. And that ties back
to what the Bible tells us in the book of
Matthew that there are people who act as though they're
preachers of the word, but in fact they're ravenous wolves.
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The other thing that I find distasteful, and I don't
care what side of the aisle it's being done on,
is when the word of God gets taken off the
dusty shelf by some member of government, and then it's
used as a cudgel to quote something in Scripture that
somehow they think will resonate and will be a compelling argument.
Jesus is not invited into the chamber. 98% of the time,
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but he certainly was brought into discussion this week by
Senator Chris Coons of Delaware, talking about the potential defunding
of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. Listen to what he said.
S15 (39:51):
Jesus wept. Jesus wept. Most of us who grew up
in Bible believing households know this is the shortest verse
in all of Scripture. And in some ways the most
powerful one that haunts me. Jesus wept in John the
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11th chapter, 35th verse, because he had come too late,
seemingly to save the life of Lazarus. He wept because
someone he knew and loved had died. And it had
caused such harm and loss to his family. Today we
are doing something on this floor of this Senate. My
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Republican colleagues are doing something on the floor of this
Senate that I believe would make Jesus weep.
S1 (40:45):
Wow. Okay, that's quintessential eisegesis, by the way. We have
nothing in Scripture that would tell us how Jesus would
speak on the matter of defunding the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
But again, I've been around the block for decades in Washington, D.C.,
and this isn't the first time I've seen this happen.
And as I say, let me repeat myself. I find
it repugnant when it's done on either side of the aisle,
(41:06):
because 99.9% of the time, it's always done out of context.
It's done for some dramatic flourish, and it really is distasteful.
So Jesus isn't weeping because PBS is being defunded. I
think Jesus weeps when people turn their back on him,
and when ideas that are antithetical to the truth of
God's Word are being espoused, regardless of what the outlet
(41:26):
or the mouthpiece happens to be. Craig. Your thoughts?
S11 (41:29):
Uh, yeah. I also think that Jesus wept at the, uh,
the tomb of Lazarus, a friend. Um, but more than that,
on a more transcendent level, I think he was also
weeping for the fact that death and the grave were
a result of human sin for generations and generations, going
(41:54):
back to the Garden of Eden and the choices made
there that were sinful. He also knew that as Jesus,
that he had come to do away with both the
sting of the grave as well as death itself. Through
his death on the cross, and his providing a ransom
(42:15):
for the sin of the whole human race. I don't
see any connection between what might make. And by the way,
Jesus also was very troubled when he overlooked when he
stood on the overlook over Jerusalem and really felt the, uh,
(42:38):
the broken heart of God, uh, over the long history
of failing to recognize, uh, where God was leading his
people and the coming of his Messiah. And of course,
Jesus came and was rejected. Um proved himself to be
(42:59):
who he was promised to be proved by the resurrection
that he was who he said he was, and he
had accomplished what God had promised him to to accomplish.
But I, I see nowhere, Janet, where Jesus wept over, uh,
some legislative bodies vote on an issue of funding.
S1 (43:18):
Yeah, go to my idea now. So putting that very
sloppy eisegesis aside for a minute, let's just talk about
this general philosophy of the government funding media outlets. You know,
there are a myriad of not for profit broadcast entities
out there, and the overwhelming majority of them don't take
government funding. But the National Public Radio and the Corporation
(43:40):
for Public Broadcasting both have our name in it. Public
have been receiving money for decades. That was then. This
is now. Do you not think that the answer here
should be subscribers? If you love what your local PBS
is doing, we get fundraising letters over and over and
over again, and I know we're not the only people
that do. If you love it, support it, not the government.
S11 (43:59):
And if their content is as compelling and accurate and
powerful and necessary as they say it is, I don't
believe it is. But if they are right, then certainly
people will come, they will listen, they will support and
they will pay.
S1 (44:13):
Yeah. Exactly. Right. So again, if you love the content
that you're on a not for profit, you're going to
pay for it. You're going to support it financially because
you want it to keep going. So I have to
tell you this is a historic moment. As I say,
this has been talked about for decades in Washington, D.C.,
and now all it needs is the president's signature because
it has passed both houses. We do this for another hour.
(44:34):
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