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Hi friends. Welcome to In the Market with Janet Parshall.
So glad we're going to spend the hour together. You're
going to need this. (877) 548-3675. Why. Let me give you
that number again. (877) 548-3675. Why are you going to need it.
Because we're going to talk about food. Now I'm not
going to sing it, but I want you if you've
seen the movie Oliver, if you've seen the play Oliver,
there's a song in there where they sing about food.
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And I could sing it for you, but I won't.
Here's the lyrics to the first chorus. Food. Glorious food.
We're anxious to try it. Three banquets a day. Our
favorite diet. Just picture a mammoth steak. Fried, roasted or stewed. Oh, food.
Wonderful food. Marvelous food. Glorious food. Now raise your hand
if you sung that on your way to the refrigerator.
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What is our obsession with food? It's kind of an
Edenic experience, isn't it? When God says to Adam and Eve,
you can eat everything out of this garden. Don't touch
that tree. You can eat anything in that refrigerator as
long as it's fruits and vegetables. Don't touch the chocolate
chip ice cream or the chips on the shelf. What
is it about food? And now, because rabbit has fallen
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down the hole. Thank you. Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland.
Now all you have to do is eat all you
want to. And then put a little shot inside your body.
Take this little shot and the fat will fall off.
How do I know? Because the movie stars told me
it happens that way. So it must be true, right?
That I now can just shoot myself rather than taking
a pill with this drug. And it's going to make
all the fat go away. What is our relationship with food?
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And by the way, there is no such thing as
the seven deadly sins. You won't find that in Scripture.
But if we stop with the principle that our body
is the temple of the Holy Spirit, we're supposed to
take care of it. So obesity is not exactly that,
is it? So roll up your sleeves. We are going
to take your calls and your questions on food this hour.
(877) 548-3675 I've got that song from Oliver going in your head,
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don't you? Yep, I thought so. Guess who our teacher is?
This our doctor, Linda Mintle. This is one of her
areas of expertise, by the way. She has her PhD
in urban health and clinical psychology. And yes, indeed, she's
a national expert on mental health, but she has specialised
in the treatment of eating disorders. She's written quite a
bit about this in her blog and books as well.
I put one up as a reference this hour called
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Press Pause Before You Eat the Cure to your relationship
with food. She has, by the way, other areas of
expertise anxiety, depression, pain management. She's got over 30 years
of clinical experience working with couples and families. She teaches doctors,
she hosts her own radio show, she's an award winning author.
The list goes on and on and on. And I
can't believe we get to spend time with her every month. So, Linda,
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the warmest of welcomes. Thank you so much for being here.
And I have to ask because I love what you
do in the area of mental health. And I love
the way you work with families and you write on
such a variety. It's a smorgasbord. If I can use
a midwest term of things that we can choose from
in your blog, but you really have honed in on
the subject of food and our relationship with it. Where
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does that curiosity come from?
S6 (04:56):
Well, it has to do a lot with what you
were talking about. I've spent 30 years with my clinical
practice dealing with people that had weight issues. And whether
it was under-eating with anorexia nervosa or binge eating with
bulimia and binge eaters. I also have spent a lot
of time helping people who have been very obese, overweight,
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dealing with weight and trying to, you know, deal with
healthy eating patterns. How can we lose weight? I mean,
we're all wanting to lose weight. It just seems like
that's always a thing for most people in trying to
lose weight. So this has been an area that I've
gone through all of the fads. Janet, I'd love to
take a moment and kind of go through where we
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started and how we got to where we are with
all the different things that we focused on. I just
wrote up a little sort of summary of that to
to kind of say, you know, nothing is new under
the sun. But we've tried different ways, different things over
the years to try to lose weight. And, uh, it's
it's interesting because I took it by decades. And it's
like at each decade, starting from the 60s, there was
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sort of a new approach, a novel approach, something we
thought was going to be the magic bullet, the magic
pill to kind of help us. And now today we're
in this, um, this state of the, the GLP ones.
And most people listening know what those are, the new
the newer weight loss drugs that are on the market now. So,
you know, we're obesity is a medical condition. Uh, eating
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disorders are psychiatric, but they involve your body and weight
and maintaining weight and stabilizing your weight and and the
symptoms that you have around those are related to food.
So we you know, it was kind of one of
those things where I had to work with it all. Um,
because it's involved, if you're a binge eater, you're eventually
going to gain a lot of weight. If you're a
binge eater who purges, you might be normal weight because
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you're purging and getting vomiting and getting rid of the weight.
So it's all connected. But I think most Americans today,
I mean, we have a public health crisis. 70% of
our population is overweight or obese. That's a lot of
people that are listening to us right now who are
dealing with obesity, dealing with trying to lose weight, and
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they're looking for something that's magical that will help them,
that will do the trick. And I just have to
say that as we have this conversation, one size does
not fit all. You really have to work on what's
going on with you. What are the unique issues that
you have that are contributing to your weight, and how
are you going to go forward knowing what's safe, what's
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evidence based, and what actually works, versus all the fads
and misinformation that we have all around us? Yeah.
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Exactly. And by the way, you know, the little indictment
here of Big pharma and the companies out there, that
and the industries rather that are built around our problem
relationship with food. You know, I want you to go
back and I want to review some of the things
that we've tried. I remembered I'm going to date myself,
and I don't care when you could get a little
square block of chocolate and it was called an aid.
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You could take Aids. This was before the autoimmune disease.
I don't think anybody would call anything like that now.
S6 (08:01):
Aids.
S1 (08:01):
Now you would take this exactly right. But you would
take this and it supposedly would take the edge off
of your appetite. And so there was always I don't
know what it is about the human condition. And I
find the psychological part of this conversation absolutely fascinating. But
apparently there's this idea that we make the choice because
we always have a choice about what we put in
our mouth and what we're going to consume. But then
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the consequence should be eliminated down to something more, just
a pill or a shot, and then it's going to
take the problem away. In other words, there doesn't seem
to be a corollary between choices and consequences. You didn't
get obese overnight. It's not going to go away overnight.
But we still have this idea in this country at least,
that the remedy should be fast and furious. You hear
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in the music. So when we come back, I'd love
for you to address that. And I love that flyover.
Talk to me about all the things that we've done
so far, because we really are at that stage now.
And I challenge anybody. If you're going to watch a
couple hours of TV before you go to bed at night,
How many of what we call the avails that the
commercial spot between the program content, how many of them
have to deal with pharmaceutical issues? And if they're not
pharmaceutical issues, many of which are about take this and
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you lose weight, then they're counterbalanced by food ads. Hello,
is anybody paying attention here? This is going to be
a great conversation. We are to have a biblical perspective
on a relationship with food. And God is very pragmatic.
Doctor Linda Mitchell specializes in teaching us about the pragmatics.
Your questions at (877) 548-3675 about food, diet, obesity and control. (877) 548-3675.
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Doctor Linda Mintle is with us, clinical psychologist, teacher, professor, writer, blogger.
The list goes on and on and on. And we're
talking about food this hour. And again, we're going to
entertain your questions because honestly, all of us at some
level sometimes struggle with this issue of food. 87754836758775483675. So
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do the flyover. Because Linda, for people who don't know this,
the dieting industry note the air quotes around that is
a multibillion dollar industry. Clearly. I hate to say it,
but it's built on the idea that it's going to fail,
not win. It's the idea that it's going to fail.
So talk to me about some of the gimmicks, if
I can put it that way, that we've tried over
the years to help us lose weight.
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Well, there have been there have been some good efforts,
I would say, because, you know, there's a lot of people, Janet,
that are really struggling with obesity and do need to
lose weight because of heart disease and And diabetes and
a lot of, you know, very serious conditions that are
affecting their health. So there have been there have been
researchers and people trying to do things that would help
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the public with weight loss. And so I think if
we go back to the 60s, most of us are
familiar with Weight Watchers. That's actually when that began, when
people started looking at portion control and counting points and,
you know, really was an emphasis on a on a
better way of eating. And Weight Watchers is one of those, um,
programs that if you stick with it, you can be
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somewhat successful with Weight Watchers. It's really something that's quite balanced,
and it helps you develop better eating habits for a lifetime.
And that's their goal, right? But then in the 70s,
we started looking again at these medications and there was, uh,
something called ephedra came along. And it's this ephedrine and caffeine.
And it was sort of the diet drug of choice
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that was later followed by something called fen-phen. Um, it
was fenfluramine. I have to remember my pharmacy here and ketamine,
that combination. And it was this big thing where people
were getting these, these drugs. And I remember we were
in a practice and um, later, because this went on
into the 90s, actually, when they were finally pulled from
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the market because of the serious, serious side effects these
drugs had. But at the time, I remember I was
in a practice and we were we were trying to
decide if we were going to use these drugs. And
I found some studies from Johns Hopkins where the long
term data was scary. I mean, people were really having problems. So,
you know, while they reduced hunger pains, there were reports
of hypertension and stroke and heart lesions and all kinds
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of things that got these drugs pulled from the market.
And then in the in the 80s, we started looking
at sort of the, the, the, you know, drinking the
shakes and the SlimFast I think came along during that time.
And I remember you, I remember I did it the
cabbage soup diet. I don't know if you ever did
that one, but I loved it. I loved the cabbage soup.
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So I was like, I can do this, but you're
supposed to eat this like, you know, every meal and
then you lose weight. Well, of course, because there's nothing
in it but vegetables and soup. I mean, it's of course, anybody.
You're going to lose weight because the calories are so low, right? Again,
not full rounded nutrition. And then in the 90s there
was sort of this anti carb movement where we had
the Atkins diet, the South Beach diet. And you remember
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Oprah with the Optifast. So she came on with the
very low calorie diet. It's a it's a shake that
you drink called Optifast. And I was in a hospital
where they wanted to try to a program like this. So, um,
it wasn't that particular name, but it was a very
similar product. And I had to run that program. And I,
you know, I was very leery of how well people
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could maintain a weight loss. Yes. People were losing weight
because they drank liquid and it was very controlled, like
under 800 to 1000 calories a day. And then when
people had to get reintroduced, Reintroduced to food, of course,
was very difficult, and usually about a year after they
did this, they gained the weight back and even more
so again, it wasn't something that was sustainable. Most of
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us cannot drink shakes for the rest of our life,
nor would we want to do that, nor would it
be probably healthy for us. But again, these are people
that were really struggling, were really, you know, trying to
get that weight off. And then in the the 2000,
there were a lot of liquid diets, detox drinks. And then,
you know, the 2012 we start hearing more about paleo
and and then interest in the gut came along. And
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the microbiome, which I do think has future potential in
terms of molecular sort of etiology of some things. But
it's a it's a big area that's being studied. And
now of course we're into the GLP one. So this
is the current craze for everybody. But I will say
and I want people to understand these GLP one drugs
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and most people know them by Ozempic and Wegovy and
some of those brand names. But these drugs were developed
20 years ago, older versions of them, and they were
used in the treatment of diabetes, and they were very
helpful for treating people's diabetes. And what they noticed was
that one of the side effects of these drugs was
that people lost weight. So now you kind of bring
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them into the current time where now these drugs are
being used. And what we're seeing, there's some promise, especially
for very obese people. There's some promise because we see
that it lowers blood sugar. Um, it slows down your digestion.
You know, it can lower your appetite, make you feel full.
And there even have been I get studies on this
probably once a week from a medscape, which comes across
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my desk every week. And there's even some, some, some
thought of using this with very obese people could actually
help them with mortality and heart disease as well. So
I think for a group of people that are very
overweight or very obese, these could be a help to
get their their health back in shape. But it's not
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going to be something that most people are going to
be able to do. Nor are most people going to
qualify for. And there's a lot of cons when we
go through these. If we were to go through all
the different cons, like you have to stay on these forever,
just like you would diabetes medication. At least we think so.
At this point. We don't have long term data. We
don't really know what these drugs are going to do
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over time when they're used the way they're being used.
But they do show promise. So you will hear physicians
being very careful, looking at their patients, looking at who
might be a candidate for this. Um, they cost quite
a bit at this point, although there are some things
that are that are taking down the cost. But you
have to be careful because sometimes what's happening is pharmacies
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are compounding. Those are not FDA regulated. So you don't
you're not getting the same thing that you need. So
a lot of issues around the use of these drugs
but it is a promising forefront. But again, it's not
going to change a lot of other things about the
way you eat, such as your relationship with food such
as emotional eating, compulsive eating, eating because you're, you know,
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you're medicating or numbing yourself. There's a lot of other
issues involved.
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Well.
S1 (17:00):
And I'm glad Linda's with us for the whole hour
because we have lots to talk about. We're also going
to come back and take some of your questions at (877) 548-3675.
If you struggle in this area, Doctor Linda Mintle is here.
She'll take your questions. By the way, she's got a
lot of great resources on the topic as well. So
check out our information page in the market with Janet Parshall.
We'll be right back after this. 877548675. That's our number
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here on in the market with Janet Parshall, where we're
talking this hour with Doctor Linda Mintle about our relationship
with food. Laura, let me go to you in Georgia.
Thank you for your patience. Your question for Doctor Mintle, please.
S7 (17:48):
Okay. I am a 30 year weight watcher lifetime member
who has fallen off the wagon and gotten back on many,
many times. And I'm now 62 and I'm battling all
this postmenopausal weight gain. And I'm wondering, because I know
in the past, it almost feels like weight loss becomes
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an idol to me, where I'm so concentrated on getting
the weight off that it just feels like it usurps
God's authority in my life, and I want him to
help me. You know what I'm saying? It's just a
hard thing.
S6 (18:27):
Yeah. It is. And, um, you're right. As you as
you get as you age. And every decade we age, um,
we do tend to gain weight. Just naturally what happens with,
especially with women with the loss of estrogen, we, we
tend to put on, um, weight per decade, um, and
our bodies shift and change, and it's not what we
used to look like when we were younger and when
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we were, our metabolism was a little bit, you know,
more active. So it is a struggle and it's a
struggle of looking at yourself and comparing yourself to the
rest of the culture. And and first of all, women
who age are not sort of, you know, they're not
the object of beauty in our culture. They they're kind
of tossed to the side. And there's all this what
you're talking about, Laura, all this idolatry of just constantly
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getting cosmetic surgery or feeling like you have to look
a certain way, that you have to, you know, make
the cultural narrative of what beauty is supposed to look like. Now,
I'm not I'm not condemning people who do some procedures
and things, but I'm saying the the fixation and the battle,
which is exactly what that book press Pause before You
eat was about. That food isn't something that we're supposed
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to either have as an idol in terms of if
we don't look a certain way, if we don't weigh
a certain thing, somehow we're not good enough when it
becomes that it's a problem. And when we we battle
with food and we look at it as, you know,
something that we're constantly having to fight against rather than
concentrating on our health. So, you know, I think it's
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always important to go to your go see your doctor,
you know, get labs drawn, look at all your lab work,
make sure that everything is okay and working and and,
you know, talk to your doctor about an exercise program.
Now again, exercise isn't going to take off the pounds.
But exercise does help your health and it does help
maintain weight loss. But just looking at what you can
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eat reasonably so that you're not always in a deprivation mode.
So when we have this attitude of I can't eat
that or I can't eat that, and I know Weight
Watchers is good because it gives you choices. It says
you can eat that, but it's this many points versus
eating that. But so when you take back a little
bit of that control and you have a mindset of,
I can eat that, but do I really want to?
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And what's in that food? Is that food going to
be healthy and nutritious for me? Is it contributing to
my lethargy and my mood? You know, being And being
more irritable because food does affect us that way as well.
So I think you just have to, you know, you
had a program that worked. I think you meet with
your physician and say, you know, let's let's sort of
come up with a plan that would be working for
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me so that I don't have to fight this. And
and if you want to talk to somebody about some
other issues related to counseling, that would be a good
thing too. So I think all of that is is
good as an approach going forward.
S1 (21:10):
Thank you, Laura, so much for being a part of this. (877) 548-3675. Beth,
you join us from Ohio. Welcome. And your question please.
S8 (21:19):
Hi. You were talking about and I was just wondering
if there are any side effects for the glps. And
I think I've heard of a black box warning of
some sort. I'm not even sure about that. What? That
what that is.
S6 (21:31):
Yeah. There's a black box. Means that there's there's danger.
You know, that's what they put on, like cigarettes and
some controlled substances and things like that. But yes, there
are there are side effects and and there are side
effects that can be very difficult and very unpleasant, and
some people can't even tolerate the drugs because of the
side effects. So the most common one is vomiting from
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the drugs, nausea, constipation. Or it can be diarrhea. It
can go the other way. Um, you can, you can,
you can you can have other things where you're not
a candidate for them in terms of you can have
a lot of, um, gastro problems. So GI problems with
digestion and, and gastroparesis and things like that. So anybody
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that has problems with, um, they, they can actually increase
the risk of pancreatitis, gallbladder disease, um, gastroparesis, which is
sort of a stomach paralysis that sometimes people can get
can increase the risk of thyroid cancer, kidney problems. So
there are a lot of potential significant side effects, which
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is why people shouldn't just be ordering these in the
mail and fooling around and playing doctor themselves, because you
need to know what your medical profile is before you
ever go on something like that. I think you need
to know that, first of all, that the chances are
you might have to stay on those forever. Because right
now we're seeing that about two thirds of the people,
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when they go off of them, gain the weight back.
So this is more like, you know, you take a
you take metformin for diabetes. This is more like the
same type of approach. Right now I don't know what's
going to happen in the future, but right now. And
then there are those significant side effects. And then there
are some risk factors. There are some conditions that you
absolutely should not be taking these drugs for. One would
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be eating disorders. I would throw that caveat out there. Um,
you don't want to have somebody with that doing this.
And they're expensive. So, you know, they can cost you
up to $1,000 a month, and you have to give yourself,
you know, an injection and you have to stay on
top of it. And, um, so there's a lot of
a lot of issues around them that don't make them
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just this take a pill and you feel great. I mean,
you really do need to talk with your physician. If
you're going to consider that, make sure you're supposed to
have a BMI of 27 with some medical condition or
above 30 to even qualify for those drugs. So a
lot of issues around taking them, but they can help
people with some serious medical conditions if their doctor also
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sees that.
S1 (24:00):
Beth, thank you. Appreciate you being a part of this conversation.
Join in with your questions at 87754836758775483675. Doctor Linda Mintle
is our guest. We are talking about our relationship with
food and taking your questions as well. More of both
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Doctor Linda Mintle is our guest. She has a PhD
in urban Health and clinical Psychology and she is a
national expert on mental health. She's written quite a bit
about our relationship with food, both in blogs and in
her books. A book right now is a reference. On
my information page is the book she authored called Press
Pause Before You Eat the Cure to Your Relationship with food. 87754836758775483675.
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Lots of questions. Karen from Tennessee I welcome you. Your
question please.
S9 (25:33):
Hi. I was just wondering, um, we've been doing the
carnivore diet. Um, and recently we went off, and then
we just went back on. We went off because my
LDL cholesterol was at 400. And so there was a
lot of eggs, like three eggs for each meal and
then a lot of butter when you're cooking them and
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you're putting the butter on top when you're cooking them. So, um,
I'm just wondering what you. So I cut way back
and I got down to 299. Just with food, not
with medicine. Just cut it back. Mhm. I wonder what
you think about that diet.
S6 (26:06):
Yeah. So, so I, I don't know anything called the carnivore.
It sounds like Atkins or one of the high protein diets.
Is that what that is where you eat mostly protein.
And um, is that what you're talking about?
S10 (26:18):
Yeah. You eat um.
S9 (26:20):
You eat meat. Red meat is really pushed. And then.
But any meat, chicken, fish. You don't have many vegetables
or fruits? Not much dairy.
S11 (26:31):
Yeah. So. So this this is.
S6 (26:33):
Concerning to me. And I would be very concerned about
that type of an eating approach because you're, you're cutting
out really important food groups. And and then you have this,
this cholesterol problem that really is not going to be
helped by the way you're eating. So this would be
something again where you need to look at like, you know,
your cholesterol level. You need to talk with your physician
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and say, hey, this is serious with my, you know,
my LDL and my HDL and what's going on. And
I need to look at my total cholesterol, and I
need to have an eating plan that's going to be
helpful to that type of medical problem that I'm having
in my body. And anytime you cut out major food
groups now, you can you can, you know, cut out
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trans fat, you can cut out a lot of unprocessed foods.
Those would be two groups, I would say, and a
lot of just pure sugar. So if you if you
get rid of those three things processed foods, a lots
of regular sugar and even the artificial sweeteners, artificial sweeteners
trick the brain into thinking you're more hungry. So they're
really not helpful. And then a lot of the trans fat,
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that's really where the dangerous eating is in our diet,
and our American diet is filled with those things. So
if you do a little bit more of the more
farm to table type of eating, um, you'll do a
whole lot better when you're using fresh fruits and vegetables.
You really need those for all other types of healthy,
healthy issues in your body, from everything from your eyes
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to other parts of your body that really get fed
by this fuel in the food. So again, working with
a dietitian would be a really good idea. Um, to
say I'm at this weight I want to lose. Um,
maybe I could work with a registered dietitian who could say,
based on your labs and the things we're seeing with you,
here's what I would recommend, but I would not recommend
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that type of eating for most people.
S1 (28:24):
Thank you, Karen. Appreciate you being here. To the opposite
end of the diet spectrum. Cindy joins us from Illinois. Cindy,
your question please.
S12 (28:32):
Oh thank you. Um, I'm wondering what is your opinion
about a plant based diet?
S6 (28:40):
Yeah. So a lot of people, you know, talk about that. Um, again,
I think it's very hard to manage it with the
type of protein that you need. And this is where
now I, I dealt with a lot of this because
I worked with a lot of people who had anorexia.
And typically when someone has anorexia, they go into a
vegetarian or a plant based diet because they're very afraid
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of the other types of foods. So the but the
I remember that the, the dieticians have to work really
hard to make sure that they get the balance and
they get protein and they get all of the, the
food groups that are recommended recommended. So, you know, my
approach to all of this is that you need to
be sensible and you need to, you know, there's there's
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there's there are certain types of foods that you need
in your diet to, um, to continue to create health
in your body. And so before I would do any
of those kinds of things, I wouldn't do that unless
I'm working with some dietitian who understands how that all
works together and puts those proteins in. And honestly, I
wasn't smart enough to do it when they were showing
me all these things and how to balance it and
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what you had to do. I was like, oh my gosh,
I could never do this. But what happens is people
just think foods are bad. This is a bad food.
This is a good food. And this really sets up
problems in the way that we view foods. Because, you know,
there are the only again, I'm going to say there
are bad foods like trans fat. That's what's that's in
foods that's bad. And processing foods is bad. And a
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lot of sugar can be bad for you. But certain foods,
if you eat them in moderation, you're probably going to
be okay. If it's in moderation and you're eating stuff
that's healthy. So, you know, I'm going to go back
to the myplate with the government and look at the
what my plate says. This is what we use with
all our patients, with eating, with eating disorders and people
that were struggling to lose weight. You got to have
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a balanced diet with, um, you know, half of your
plate should be fruits and vegetables and the other half
only meat. And, you know, some other kind of the
good kind of carbs. So it's not like you can't
ever have carbs either. But again, your body, it needs
to be individualized. It needs to be healthy. So I
think a lot of people need to work with someone
who knows what they're doing with these, because otherwise you're
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just shooting in the dark and that isn't always good
for your health.
S1 (30:52):
Thank you. Cindy. Dustin, we welcome you. Now, your question please.
S13 (30:58):
Hello. Hi. I was wondering, is there a type of
food or category of food, or a style of eating
that will naturally trick my body into speeding up my metabolism?
S6 (31:10):
That is a great question, Dustin. People have been looking
for that forever, right? Because that would be the trick. So,
you know, part of the issue was when, um, if
you remember the show The Biggest Loser and all these
people were exercising like crazy, and on all these, they
were having, you know, chefs and preparing their meals and
eating all these different meals. And these have been people
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that have gained weight, lost weight, gained weight, lost weight,
and part of what happens is there's like a set
point in a lot of people's body. And as they
lose in weight, lose gain weight, you know, gain weight,
lose weight, that kind of thing. This yo yo effect
has a lot to do with making it more difficult
for people to lose weight and slowing down your metabolism.
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And what came out of all of those shows, and
looking at the data later, was that people's metabolism had
really slowed. And so for those people to actually maintain
their weight loss, they would have to become what we
call restrained eaters. And that meant that they would have
to eat like between 800 and 1000 calories a day,
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which is very difficult to sustain with most people, which
is why almost all of the people that were in
those programs have gained their weight back. Some not as much,
some more than they even started with. So this is
very difficult with metabolism. And, you know, I'm not a chemist.
I'm not a biochemist. But I understand, you know, some
of these hormones like ghrelin and leptin and all of this.
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That has to do with satiety, but it's very hard
to naturally speak, you know, aerobic exercise, anaerobic exercise, trying
to do, um, those types of exercises helps. But I
don't know that you can I don't know really a
lot about that in terms of how to do that naturally.
Because if that was a thing, then I think a
lot of people would be talking more about that. But sure.
S1 (33:01):
Thank you.
S6 (33:02):
So much with your metabolism. Yeah.
S1 (33:05):
Janet, welcome. Your question please. That's quite all right. Janet,
you're on the air. Your question please.
S14 (33:14):
Okay. Yeah. I was wondering about the intermittent fasting diet.
S6 (33:20):
Yeah. So you know that that's another one that's been
very popular right now. And there's some mixed results on that. Um,
here's I just something came across my desk the other
day about intermittent fasting, and it was a review again
by Johns Hopkins. And the article said that we're really
not sure if what is happening here is that with
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intermittent fasting, you eat between certain hours of the day. Right.
So what the study was saying is that the fact
that it limits people to eat at certain hours of
the day, and then you stop, people are probably naturally
eating less calories. So what the Hopkins study was saying is,
maybe one of the reasons this works for some people
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is because they're eating fewer calories overall. Because, you know,
if I stopped eating at 6:00 after dinner and didn't eat,
another thing probably would lose some weight because a lot
of us snack at night, right? And eat stuff at night.
So it does seem to work for some people. It
doesn't work for everybody. A lot of trouble staying on
that plan again. Again, these are sort of, you know, ways.
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Can you get the weight off? My question always is
can you maintain the weight loss. And you know, right
now I mean with the GLP ones. They think you
can maintain that weight loss with with obese, but you
plateau out also after so many. Um, so so long
to but you have to keep taking the drug. But
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outside of that you got to have a healthy eating
plan where your lifestyle really changes to make sure that
you lose weight. Now it's going to be harder for
some people, given their genetics and given their environmental factors
and a lot of other things. So it's again, it's
not an even fair, balanced field, but we got to
find things that change our lifestyle for the better overall.
S1 (35:10):
(877) 548-3675. That's our number here on in the market with
Janet Parshall. Again we're talking with Doctor Linda Mintle. She
wrote a great piece by the way. If you go
to her website and I've got it linked on our
information page, call our weight loss medications the magic cure.
We've been waiting for. You're going to be curious in
her answer. It's right there in her column. So check
it out. More more of your calls after this. (877) 548-3675.
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That's our number here on in the market with Janet Parshall.
Gail I turn to you next in Kansas. Thanks so
much for joining us. We'll take your question please.
S15 (35:46):
Well, thank you for taking my call. This is a very,
very interesting topic. So I thank you for that. My
my question is regarding trans fats. Doctor Lowenthal has mentioned
that several times during the broadcast. Um, my understanding of
trans fats is we get those through partially hydrogenated oils,
which I thought had been banned, um, several years ago.
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So I'm wondering where else do we get trans fats
from in today's diet?
S6 (36:16):
Well, I tell you, I'm learning a little bit more
about this. There's a lot of information on seed oils
and all this trans fats. And I think with our, um,
our government now is looking into what has gone into
foods and, um, what are we eating and what is
a good oil, a bad oil. And I know from
talking to the dietitians, again, I'm not a dietician, so
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I would be very reluctant to give you dietary advice
in terms of that type of thing. But I know
that one of the good oils is avocado oil. That's
the one I keep hearing more about that. Um, that's
one of the good oils. So I'm not sure. You know,
I just if you look in, um, lots of foods,
you have to look you have to be able to
read labels because it's a it's a type of unsaturated fat, um,
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that could increase your risk for heart disease, which is
why there's so much talk about that. Right? It's in
some natural foods, but a lot of artificial foods. So
when you look at labels, it's things like partially hydrogenated,
you know, hydrogenated hydrogenated foods. It's probably not the right
way to say that vegetable oils, um, you know, a
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lot of fats in meat and dairy. Processed foods have
this like processed meats, um, artificial trans fats. There's just
you have to be able to read labels. And that's
one of the things that we used to work with,
with people that have overweight. We used to look at
the the labels of food and the dietician would do this.
So they're really knowledgeable about what do you look for
in the labels. But there's been all this talk, like
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I say, about all the different oils and which one
is good. And, you know, I'm just trying to read
along with you. I've switched my own, um, to avocado
oil because that seems to be a healthier oil for
you in general. So I would say just look it
up in the internet and say, give me foods that
are high in trans fat. You probably got a good answer, um,
from the interview, but say make it evidence based if
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you Google that because there's a lot of misinformation on
the internet, I could probably do a ChatGPT search on
that and get a good answer.
S1 (38:14):
Yes, and the robot is never wrong. So thank you
for that. Right?
S6 (38:18):
All right. You just have to be really careful.
S1 (38:20):
Yeah, exactly. Julie in California, thanks for joining us. Please.
Your question now.
S16 (38:26):
Uh, I was wondering, um, is it possible to lower
my A1C? Naturally.
S6 (38:32):
Well, again, I'm not a physician, so I would be
I feel like I would be giving advice out of
my area of expertise here. But, um, you really there's
there's some things that you can do that help that
obviously a lot of, you know, a lot of the
issues that a lot of us have is that we're
too sedentary and we're not getting up, we're not exercising.
So I know exercise helps in so many different levels.
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Even sleep. People who don't sleep 7 to 8 hours
a night have trouble because that REM sleep that you need,
that deep sleep that you need, can really mess with
your circadian rhythm and can throw things off. And so
there's some there's a lot of talk these days about
the importance of sleep in terms of weight and trying
to have better health, but in terms of how you
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do that naturally, again, that's another that you should have
a diet a registered dietitian on who can talk about
those types of foods and what you would do and
how you would do that naturally, because it's just not
my area. I refer to those registered dietitians and say, okay,
you've got somebody with this issue, what is it they're
supposed to do? And so I would recommend if somebody
if you're if you're somebody with a condition and you
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want to do that, um, I would meet with a
registered dietitian and get a consult. Uh, we did that
with a lot of our patients when I was in
full time practice.
S1 (39:46):
And I thank you so much, Julie, for the question.
(877) 548-3675 Max in Indiana. Your question now, please.
S17 (39:55):
Hi. It's a very interesting show. Uh, I wonder what
your opinion is on food combining and the blood type diet.
S3 (40:02):
Mhm.
S6 (40:03):
Yeah. Again I, you know I've looked at these so I,
I wrote a book years ago called Lose It for
life with Steve Arterburn. And part of what I had
to do was review diets and all the diets. And
actually I teach uh, in the, the GI course at
the medical school. I teach on obesity. So I'm constantly
looking at diets, reviewing diets, and the ones that show
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up that, um, the Cleveland Clinic, for example, recommends the
Mediterranean diet as a sensible diet. Sometimes low glycemic diets
for people that are, you know, are struggling with their, um, a1c's.
So I just thought of that as you were as
I was talking, um, and, uh, you know, keeping your
glycemic index lowered, um, and then, um, there's a dash diet.
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There's one that, you know, some things for heart disease,
people that have heart disease. So again, these are diets
that have been approved, have been looked for for certain
kinds of conditions. But other than that, the I haven't
found any evidence for that type of diet to show
any type of evidence based results. It's not in the
literature that I read. So I'll just say that.
S1 (41:10):
Um, so picking up on that if I can. And Max,
thank you so much for the question. We hear about
the Mediterranean diet. So let me just break that down.
What are the elements in the Mediterranean diet? That is
the reason it's so frequently recommended as being a healthy diet.
In other words, what's in there? What's not in there?
That makes it a good choice?
S6 (41:28):
Well, somebody brought up plant based foods. And the Mediterranean
diet does emphasize Janet. A lot of the plant based
foods and healthy fats. So like avocados and olive oil,
that's a good oil to cook with as well. So
those are the two. Olives. Because of the Mediterranean diet,
I use olive oil and avocado oil as my sort
of go to. And the thing that was so surprising
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to me, I'll just say this because I'm learning, along
with a lot of you, with some of these, uh,
you know, some of the, the science. But I thought
avocado oil would make things taste funny. So I have
a friend. She goes, I bake with it all the time.
You don't even taste it. I was like, oh, so
that was kind of a surprise for me. Um, whole
grains are really emphasizing that. A lot of fruits, a
lot of vegetables, um, you know, fish, poultry, eggs, dairy,
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not so much the red meats, but more of the
fish and the poultry and the dairy. Um, you know,
it's really if you look at the way it got
its name, was the people in the Mediterranean area, the
way that they would eat and looking at different populations
that are healthier across the world. And what is it
about those populations that makes them healthy? A lot of
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times it's our our diet. And so I really do
appreciate the emphasis that we're hearing today about the foods
that we're eating. There's a lot of problematic. Um, a
lot of problematic things in our food, things that shouldn't
be there. Um, and we're not eating very well as
a nation. So something like the Mediterranean diet could be
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very helpful for people to just get on a sensible
eating plan.
S1 (43:02):
You know, it's interesting too, when you study population groups
where there is longevity, longevity, where you've got people that
are 90 and 100 on a regular basis. Yeah. I
think my observation is taking the Mediterranean group as an example.
It isn't just the diet, because what's interesting is there
are breads, there are pastas in those diets, but they
don't have that same propensity for obesity that we have
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here in the United States. But the other thing too is,
for example, if you look at Italy, how many cities
are built into the side of a mountain. You can't
get from point A to point B without walking uphill.
So I don't think it's exactly I don't think it's
I don't think it's diet alone. I think it has
to be a holistic approach. Now, again, I'm not talking
about someone who's obese, and I'm so glad that there
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are all kinds of other supportive aspects out there. But
I think for us as a regular lifestyle, talk to me,
give me a word of encouragement on that.
S6 (43:52):
Yeah, I think that, you know, just it's the way
our bodies are, the temple of the Holy Spirit. So
God wants us to take care of them. And I
would say, take care of them to do the things
that God has called you to do, so that you
can live your life in health. And that's a model
and a witness for people. But you're also going to
feel better and you're going to be responding to the
way God designed you.
S1 (44:12):
Excellent. Linda, thank you so much for that. Can I
tell you, friends again, that Linda's not only written a
book about this, I've got it on money books, by
the way, but one called Press Pause before you eat
the cure to your relationship food. But don't forget the
article as well on her website about medicines. Thank you Linda.
Thanks friends. We'll see you next time.