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Here are some of the news headlines we're watching.
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The conference was over. The president won a pledge.
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Americans worshiping government over God.
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Extremely rare safety move by a 17 years.
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The Palestinians and Israelis negotiated every.
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Idea is not.
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To in the market with Janet Parshall a very happy
Monday to you. I have been tweeting all over the
weekend and today as well, about the atrocities against Druze
and Christians in Syria. This is a horrific situation. And again,
you turn to the usual suspects, the UN crickets, the
major media crickets of what's going on. But the atrocities continue.
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Here's more now from CBN news.
S7 (02:46):
In Syria's Sweida province. The cease fire is rapidly deteriorating.
Over 1000 civilians have been killed, mostly Druze, but also
Christians among the dead. Pastor Khalid of the good Shepherd
Evangelical Church, murdered along with his entire extended family by
pro-regime jihadist militias in the atrocity, has mobilized outrage across
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Israel's 150,000 strong Druse community, many of whom are demanding action.
S8 (03:14):
I can't stay still watching my relatives, my people, being
slaughtered without doing anything. I know I don't have military experience,
but at least I did what I would do. What?
It's what the minimum I can do to help my people.
S7 (03:30):
Israel has responded with emergency medical aid, and they've also
continued sporadic air strikes in defense of the beleaguered Druse
in Sweida. But Muslim countries like Turkey are condemning Israel's involvement.
S9 (03:42):
I want to say this once again, clearly and plainly.
Israel is a lawless, ruthless, unprincipled, spoiled, indulged and frenzied
terrorist state.
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In Judea and Samaria. U.S. ambassador Mike Huckabee visited the
Christian village of Taibeh this weekend after fires damaged its
ancient church and cemetery. Some say the fires were started
by Arabs targeting Israeli farmland, but local leaders continue to
blame Jewish settlers.
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Solidarity with the people who just want to live their
lives in peace, to be able to go to their
own land, to be able to go to their place
of worship.
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Settler leaders argue that accusations of violence are often distorted
and that Jewish communities are frequently under siege.
S11 (04:31):
The Jewish communities of Judea and Samaria are victimized constantly,
bombarded constantly by Arab terrorism and violence, and in response,
the the level of violence perpetrated by Jews. Although it
is unfortunately not zero. And it should be, and we're
working on getting it to zero. It is so small
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as appears to be off the charts in comparison to
the number of people in the population. It's something like 0.056.
S7 (05:03):
Israelis living in Judea and Samaria say many of the
reported attacks on Palestinians are simply Jews defending themselves from
Palestinian initiated violence.
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By undermining the legitimacy of the Jewish communities in Judea
and Samaria. You clear the way for creating a Palestinian state,
and you undermine the settlers and connect them in all
sorts of ways to the IDF. You essentially tarnish the
moral standing of Israel's army.
S7 (05:34):
With the cease fire in Syria crumbling and competing claims
fueling unrest in Judea and Samaria, the Middle East looks
to be entering another volatile and unpredictable week from Jerusalem.
I'm Chuck Holten for CBN news.
S1 (05:47):
Well we did a study on Israel yesterday in church.
And I have to tell you if there were ever
a time to say, walk through life with the Bible
in one hand and the newspaper in the other, it
is now. Now let's listen to this report from Reuters Bedouins.
You often see them when you go to visit Israel.
When you leave Jerusalem, you're on your way to Bethlehem.
You will see the Bedouins with their flocks in the fields,
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just as they were doing it thousands of years ago.
They are evacuating serious way to Provence as well because
tension is building. Have a listen.
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Hundreds of Bedouin civilians evacuated Syria's predominantly Druze city of
Sweida on Monday. The exodus is part of a US
backed truce meant to end fighting that has killed hundreds
of people, state media and witnesses said. The ceasefire took
hold on Sunday as Interior Ministry security forces deployed on
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Sawaya's outskirts, allowing for the release of hostages and detainees
held by the warring sides. A second large group of
civilians will be evacuated if the situation remains calm. A
as Syrian security forces member said. The fighting began a
week ago with clashes between Bedouin and Druze fighters. Damascus
troops sent to ease tensions were drawn into the violence
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and accused of widespread violations against the Druze, with hundreds
reported killed. It has posed a major test for interim
president Ahmed Al-shara. The Druze are a small but influential
minority in Syria, Israel and Lebanon. They follow a religion
that is an offshoot of a branch of Islam. Some
ultra conservative Sunni Muslims deem their beliefs heretical, citing the
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goal of protecting the Druze and keeping southern Syria demilitarized.
Israel attacked government forces last week in the south and
struck the defence ministry in Damascus. Washington, which has expressed
support for Syria since Sharon met US President Donald Trump
in May, said it did not approve of Israel's strikes.
US envoy Tom barrack said on Monday the Syrian government
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needed to be held accountable. According to the United Nations,
at least 93,000 people have been uprooted by the fighting.
S1 (07:55):
I have to tell you again, the Druze are an
absolutely fascinating people. Craig and I have visited some of
their villages. They are an offshoot of Islam, but they
are Arabs who strongly support the nation of Israel, very
much involved in olive oil making, as an example. And
so this atrocity that's been taking place in Syria is
just unconscionable. You heard in Chuck Holton's piece for CBN
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news earlier about Pastor Khalid Mezher. He is the pastor
at good Shepherd Evangelical Church. I sent out on X
a photo. Over 20 members of his family were killed.
The pastor as well as his extended family as well.
That has ignited outrage among the 150,000 strong Druze community.
And they are demanding action. And so the IDF, Israel
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is finding itself in the situation of trying to protect Israelis,
the Druze who support them, who live in Israel, who
have gone into Syria trying to protect their own and
their families as well. And it's now a tinderbox, as
you can see. Then you get Syrian forces coming out
of Damascus that just add to the brouhaha. And quite frankly,
it's a mess. But I woke up this morning and
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God is still very much on the throne. And it
is to him and to him alone. We need to
appeal wisdom for those in authority, protection for innocent citizens,
protection for those who are being annihilated, for who knows
what the cause is this time. So it is a
tinderbox in the Middle East. But when you think about it,
is it by accident that it's a tinderbox? It is
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the land where our Saviour comes from. It was a
promise made to Abraham. It is a place where the
Messiah himself will return again. You cannot look at this
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This is at its core, has been always will be,
a spiritual battle. What do I do? What do you do?
We pray deep intercessory prayer for the Middle East back
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You know, one of the reasons I continue to ask
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my friend, Doctor Michael Njoo, to join us on air
is because it goes to my constant reminder that we
are to be Bereans, the book of acts. What does
the Bible say? That they did? They tested all things
and they were fact checking. Not the Epicureans, not the Stoics,
not the Sanhedrin, not the, uh, um, not any other
group They were checking out what Paul had to say.
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So if they were fact checking Paul, it's a reminder
to us that we don't need campaigns about dis and
misinformation out there. We just need to test all things.
It's a biblical admonition, and that's what Michael does. Michael
is a superb researcher, by the way. He takes a
look at reports and stories and surveys that have come out,
and he breaks down the facts for us so we
can think critically and biblically, and we can really understand
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fact from political manipulation, which is, by the way, the latter.
So often the case. Michael is an assistant professor of
practice at the Bush School of Business at the Catholic
University of America. He's also a senior associate scholar at
the Charlotte Lozier Institute, one of my favorite organizations here
in DC. And he writes regularly for National Review Online.
There's a group called Hashtag We Count. It's a project, rather,
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and it comes out from a group called the Society
of Family Planning. Michael, thank you so much for joining us.
Take it from there. First of all, what is and
who are the Society of Family Planning Study?
S13 (11:45):
Family planning is a nonprofit group that supports abortion, supports contraception.
They have taken it upon themselves to start doing estimates
of abortion numbers after Dobbs, which is interesting. To be honest,
I'm well versed on pro-life issues. I had never actually
heard of this group before the Dobbs decision. I mean,
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I've heard of Guttmacher, I've heard of some of the
other groups that do research. I never heard of this
group before. But they are doing these estimates of abortion
numbers that they're circulating. And unfortunately, our good friends in
the mainstream media are just sort of parroting their numbers
without any criticism or critical thinking.
S1 (12:24):
Right. Exactly right. Which happens all the time. Which is again,
why we ask you back time and time and time again.
So the project is called hashtag we count. You time
stamped it. You said it was founded in 2024. So
this is brand spanking new. Okay. So what are they as?
They're prophets of doom. What are they predicting for the
numbers of abortions?
S13 (12:43):
Well, their projections indicate that abortion numbers have gone up
since the Dobbs decision. You know, that they do, uh,
surveys of abortion facilities. Uh, they do surveys of companies
that do telehealth abortions. And they have come to the
conclusion that abortion numbers have gone up. Uh, I'm a
bit skeptical of this. Um, you know, I would say
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that one thing we know about telehealth is it's very unregulated.
You know, just because an abortion pill was ordered doesn't
mean the abortion happened. Women change their minds. Some women
tragically order abortion pills for future use. Uh, and also,
you know, the companies that sell these abortion drugs, they
have incentives to inflate their numbers. You know, they want
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to make it look like pro-life laws are weak. There's
a big quote unquote, demand for abortion out there. So
I'm not really sure we can, uh, take their data
at face value. That said, you know, they do find
that a lot of abortions, I think close to 25%
post jobs are happening by telehealth. So this is an
important policy issue that pro-lifers should be aware of. You know,
I think we do need to certainly push back against this,
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but I'd be very skeptical of the numbers at any
pro-abortion group circulates.
S1 (13:52):
Couldn't agree more. That's the fox guarding the chicken house.
By the way, this report, as you alluded to before,
and you write about this in your piece, have shown
up in places like The Hill. It's the preeminent news
outlet on Capitol Hill, The Wall Street Journal, Axios, The
Associated Press, which feeds to a gazillion other media outlets,
and ABC news. So this just shows up as a
three minute package in your evening news. We're tempted to
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swallow it hook, line and sinker. But what Michael is
telling us is, wait a minute. You got to think
this through. So the linchpin in their debate is the
idea of chemical abortions. I have two responses. Number one,
your first point was excellent. Just because somebody wants them,
gets them, doesn't mean that they took them. Doesn't mean
that someone doesn't take pill number one before it was
reversed and that baby's life was saved. Thank God we
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have that technology narrow in its application, but we do
have that technology. Number two, with all the jumping up
and down and screaming about HIPAA, I guess that's convenient
if you're a liberal. But what about telling somebody if
you're CVS, Walgreens, Walmart, any place where they're selling these
abortion drugs, who's giving the information to groups like we
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count that we distributed the abortion pill. Shouldn't that be
private information?
S13 (14:59):
Yeah, I agree. I think that, you know, there is
a lot of privacy concerns that are certainly legitimate and valid.
And again, you know, I really would not take these
entities that do telehealth abortions, uh, at face value. You know, again,
I think they have real clear incentives to make it
appear as if there's a big demand for telehealth abortion.
There's a big demand for abortion. You know, it would
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not surprise me at all to see these numbers inflated.
S1 (15:23):
Yeah. Couldn't agree more. And you hinted at something else
that I think is worth considering, which is I think
that pro-abortion groups want to make it look like, if
you can purport that there was an 8% uptick post Post-dobbs.
In the numbers of abortions in this country. What you're
implying is that pro-life laws are utterly meaningless. Therefore, the
goal is to take the wind out of the sails
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of those movements to try to put pro-life laws in
place so it doesn't make any difference. You can't stop
it anyway. Is there any legitimacy from your vantage point
to their argument?
S13 (15:53):
Absolutely not. It's absurd. There's a big, big body of
research that shows that the incidence of abortion is sensitive
to its legal status. There's a big body of research
showing that even incremental pro-life laws prevent abortions to save lives.
The best data we have post-dobbs is from birth data.
One thing I tell a lot of pro-life audiences is that,
you know, in a post-dobbs world, abortions are hard to count.
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Women go to other states. Women go to other countries.
Sometimes they can try to self-induce. They can get pills
through the mail. So getting a real good handle on
abortions is difficult. So abortions are hard to count, but
babies are easy to count. So if we see good
statistical evidence that births are going up 7 or 8
months after a pro-life law takes effect. That's very powerful
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evidence that pro-life law is stopping abortions and saving lives.
And we have not one, not two, but three states
out of Texas showing that, um, after the Texas Heartbeat
Act took effect, uh, you know, the birth rate in
Texas went up by 1000 babies every month. So looking
at birth data from Texas Heartbeat Act saving over a
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thousand lives every month. There's other studies have compared birth
trends and pro-life states to birth trends in states where
abortion is legal, and they find big disparities. You know,
thousands of lives are being saved by these laws.
S1 (17:09):
Yeah. Be a good brand. Test all things. Michael, I
find it very paradoxical that pre Dobbs in the world
of Roe, all these pro-abortion groups were very loath to
count the numbers of abortions that were being done. Isn't
it interesting post Roe. Now in the land of Dobbs.
They can't put out numbers fast enough. Buyer beware. We're
not done. Michael wrote another piece that's posted on National
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Review Online, and it also has to do with abortion rates.
You're going to find this one very interesting, by the way.
You can follow him on X and you can read
his pieces at National Review Online. And I have a
link to the Charlotte Lozier Institute as well, so you
can learn more about their great work back after this.
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We're visiting with Doctor Who is a professor at the
School of Business at Catholic University, as well as a
senior associate scholar at the Charlotte Lozier Institute, and he
frequently writes to National Review Online. So we were just
talking about this hashtag we count or survey that just
came out. Michael gave you a new set of glasses
so you could begin to see these numbers in a
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whole different way. But now this is the same thing.
This is about counting abortions again. Michael, the point I
made just before the break, abortion organizations were loathe to
ever give us numbers on how many abortions were being performed.
We don't keep those records. We don't check blah, blah blah.
And now Rose fallen. Dobbs is in place, and now
everybody and their brother is counting. So now there's a
report out. You write from Ireland's Department of Health. What
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did they find about abortions?
S13 (18:40):
Yeah, some bad news from overseas. It looks like last year, 2024,
the number of abortions performed in Ireland went up by
almost eight percentage points. Uh. It's sad. Uh, tragic, but
it's also unsurprising. Ireland at one point had some of
the best pro-life laws in all of Europe. Uh, they
had the Eighth Amendment in their constitution, uh, which provided
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legal protection for pre-born children. Sadly, Irish voters in 2018
repealed the Eighth Amendment, and in 2019, abortion was legalized.
And when countries legalized abortion, abortion numbers go up. There
were over 6000 abortions that first year. In 2019, numbers
increased by over 60%, and now there's over 10,000 abortions
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taking place every year in Ireland. So numbers are going up. Um,
you know, it's tragic, but it does really show that
policy matters. And once you legalize abortion, numbers go up.
We saw that in the 70s. And we're seeing that
here in Ireland right now.
S1 (19:37):
Wow. That's heartbreaking. I remember also before they removed that
eighth amendment, remember the abortion ship that would come and
sail around Ireland. Women would literally come off the island,
get on the ship to get their abortions. So what's
the explanation for the uptick then, in England and Wales,
as long as we're lingering in the UK?
S13 (19:53):
Right. The new data from England and Wales, I think
this is a little bit older comes from 2022, but
it's the most recent data we have indicating forces went
up by nearly 13%. And it's again further evidence that
policy choices matter. England you know, like the United States,
they made policies regarding chemical abortion drugs much more permissive
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in 2018. You know, they reduced the number of visits
for chemical abortions. You know, there's two drugs we would
have to take. They used to have to make separate
visits for each. Uh, now they just only allowed for
one in-person visit after 2018. Then, during the pandemic, they
did the exact same thing United States did. They allowed
women to obtain these dangerous chemical abortion drugs by telehealth
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without any in-person medical exams. So they changed that policy
in 2020. Parliament made it permanent as of 2022. So again,
women can get these chemical abortion drugs by telehealth without
any in-person medical examination. So again, it's really no surprise
that abortion numbers are going up in England and Wales.
S1 (20:56):
Wow. It's a game changer. We have to be factual
here and we have to be realistic. The abortion drug
has absolutely changed this debate. So let me just kind
of get your philosophical take on this. I don't think
that the FDA will ever remove their approval, despite the
fact that it was politicized under Bill Clinton. They turned
a blind eye and a deaf ear. They did not
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pay any attention to the European trials, where women were,
in fact, bleeding to death. It was politicized grease tracks boom.
And the abortion regime. I'm going to call it that
because it's two pills. Not one was approved. The argument
before the Supreme Court was whether or not we could
get back in place, some safeguards, some rails around this.
The Supreme Court is not ever going to say no,
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you can't have the abortion drug on the market. But
what's our hope for the safeguards, the rails being put
back in? And could HHS do something like that?
S13 (21:47):
Well, a couple of things. We did try to litigate this.
The Supreme Court, we didn't get the outcome we wanted.
But you have to look at why. And the reason
why is Supreme Court ruled the plaintiffs lacked standing. It
wasn't that our arguments were bad or faulty. It was
a question of standing. So if we can find another
case where plaintiffs have stronger standing, we may get some
relief through the courts. I think, frankly, a better approach
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right now is just through HHS. You know, policy can
be changed. You know, the Biden administration made things worse
by allowing women to obtain these, you know, chemical abortion
drugs by telehealth that could be reversed by the Trump administration.
You know, Robert F Kennedy Jr junior has indicated he
is concerned about this. He's doing the research. They are
looking at the safety of these abortion drugs. I hope
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and pray he does the right thing. And we don't
have a real clear timeline as of yet. But we
need to be praying. You know, HHS could take action.
They could put some safeguards in place. They could take
chemical abortion drugs off the market completely. We just have
to pray they do the right thing here.
S1 (22:44):
Yeah. Amen. First of all, thank you for the way
that you discussed the action by the United States Supreme Court.
So they didn't go to the merits, which is really
the guts of the issue. It was a procedural question.
And standing really means you have the right to bring
the case forward. So this could happen again. This is
a time out. It's not game over, which I think
is important. Thank you also for indicating that Kennedy at
HHS has said yes. I think there should be a
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place where we review this again for common sense and safeguards. Look,
if he wants to take the artificial food coloring out
of my ice cream, great. But could we get some
guardrails back in for the abortion pill? That would certainly help.
He didn't write about this, but I'd be remiss if
I didn't ask you. What do you think of a
rogue judge? Judge who comes along and basically says, I'm
going to repudiate an act of Congress. And in the
big beautiful bill where they decided to defund Planned Parenthood.
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When it comes to Medicaid, this judge goes, no. That
lasted about 5.5 seconds. Boom. And it was, again, a
question of the separation of powers. Um, I what's your
reaction to the fact that there was a move to
defund Planned Parenthood through this medical, this federal program?
S13 (23:42):
Um, I'm actually very happy that Congress did defund Planned Parenthood.
I think this judge's ruling will be overturned. You know,
we have precedent from, uh, you know, case that was
decided this year. The Supreme Court did say that South
Carolina could exclude Planned Parenthood from their Medicaid program. So
I think we have a pretty good precedent there planned
for an activist judge. And they got it and they
got a short term win. But I think it'll be overturned.
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I think the defunding will will stay in place.
S1 (24:06):
I couldn't agree with more. Thank you so much for
that positive assessment. Again, it goes back to separation of powers.
A federal judge cannot usurp an action by the Congress.
By the way, we are the people. We speak through
that legislative branch. We're not an oligarchy. The judges don't
rule the land. They rule on the law, period. But
they can't make it up as they go along. Michael.
Thank you. Excellent information. Keep writing, keep influencing, and please
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keep sharing with us. We really need to know fact
from fiction. And you do that so well. We'll take
a break and be right back after this. Jesus told
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Janet Parshall. We're going to take a look now at
what's going on when it comes to the environment and
renewable energy. And I was just talking about the big
beautiful bill before and how a component of that massive
piece of legislation is defunding Planned Parenthood. Well, is there
anything in there when it comes to renewable energy? The
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person to ask is Steve Gorham, executive director of the
Climate Science Coalition of America, author of four books on energy,
climate change and sustainable development. He's got over 100,000 copies
in print. His latest, and I have a link for
you to learn how to get your copy on my website.
It's called Green Breakdown The Coming Renewable Energy Failure. Every
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one of his books, by the way, is well worth
the read. So Steve, thanks so much for joining us.
Always appreciate you and the great work that you're doing.
So the big one, the b-b-b, the big beautiful bill
became law. Was there anything in there because it was
a monstrous bit of legislation. Most Americans don't know what's
in it. One would hope that every person who voted
for it at least knew what was in it before
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they voted. But is there anything in it dealing with
renewable energy?
S14 (26:23):
Hi Janet, great to join you again. Yeah, the changes
over the last three months have been huge, uh, legal, economic, uh, technological.
And the one big, one big beautiful bill is part
of that. And we've been subsidizing wind since about 1992, uh,
with tax credits and, and, uh, various, uh, portions, investment
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tax credits, production tax credits. We've also been subsidizing solar.
And the big beautiful bill just crunched those down. Uh,
they basically said you have to begin construction within 60
days of the passage of the bill, and that's almost
expired already. Or you have to complete construction of a
wind or solar system by 2028. And there have been
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all kinds of articles written on how this is a
nightmare scenario in Scientific American, for example, for us clean energy.
But these were the same folks that were claiming that
wind and solar were the lowest, lowest cost generators of electricity,
of course. But now they say we have to have
all the subsidies. But this is night and night and day. Now,
(27:30):
you know, under President Biden, the subsidies to renewables, both
tax credits and outright grants and loans went from about
$15 billion a year to just about $100 billion a year.
And Mr. Trump has cut all that down. Now, that
is that is being shut down. And it's not only
wind and solar, but it's also electric vehicles.
S1 (27:52):
Yeah, yeah. Hence the departure of one Elon Musk, I'm
quite sure. So it's interesting because it isn't just about
climate change. Just to put all our cards on the
table here. There's politics in the air. These companies fund
particular candidates who belong to a particular party. And then
what happens is the recipient of the campaign funds becomes
the become the lions on the floor of the House
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and the Senate, who then argue for the passage of
these kinds of subsidies. Because in reality, if you took
the campaign money out of it, Steve, I don't know
how many people would be pushing this on the floor
of Congress because it's cumbersome, it's not effective, it's not
energy efficient, and it's not financially feasible. And yet there
is still this big push. Not anymore. At least if
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you want to do it, go ahead. Welcome to the
free market. The government's not going to subsidize you anymore.
That's a hugely important step. It also, by the way,
it seems to me, opens the door for competition, which
is good for any free market. It makes sense to me.
So it's a hypothetical, but I'd love your take on this.
If we were to take out the political campaigning and
the funds that go along with that, do you think
we'd see a kind of aggressive push for this on
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the floor? I don't know how much of this is
ideologically driven.
S14 (28:58):
Well, it's amazing they got it through Congress, really, because
once you put in all these these funds that are
transferred in these credits, and people get battery plants and
EV plants in their in their districts and they don't
want to vote against it, you know, it's so the
power of Mr. Trump and the pressure he was putting
on everybody really made a whole lot of changes. And
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and the second big part of this is the road
for electric vehicles just got much, much steeper. So first,
the big beautiful Bill canceled the 7500 EV tax credit
that you would get for purchasing a new car. And
in addition, if you sold an old EV, you could
get about a $4,000 tax credit. But it's even bigger
(29:41):
than that because outside of the big, beautiful bill, uh,
President Trump and the Congress passed a number of resolutions
against zero emissions mandates. Now, these these are called zero
emissions vehicle mandates. Zevs. And we had 22 states that
passed these California led the way. But these mandates said
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that they would only allow sales of new car sales
to be electric vehicles by year 2035 or 2040 or longer.
And what, what Trump and and the Congress have done
is they have struck down the waivers that the states had, uh,
to pass these laws, which are effectively pollution control laws.
(30:25):
They had to get a waiver from the federal government,
from the EPA. Uh, under the 1970 Clean Air Act,
it said that the the federal government is responsible for
pollution control, but they allowed waivers to go in because
some states, like California, had earlier laws. And California has
gotten more than 100 of these waivers in the last
30 years. And now these are all canceled. All of
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these zero emissions mandates by 22 states are now struck down.
They can no longer tell their automakers that to reduce pollution,
they have to produce electric vehicles.
S1 (31:00):
Mhm.
S14 (31:01):
Uh, this is just this is just huge. Now California
is challenging this in court. But if they lose all
of these Zev mandates are going to. Going to disappear.
Just a huge, huge change.
S1 (31:14):
So let me and I'm glad we brought their two
issues combined here. So let me see if I can
break them down a little bit. I remember the president
was doing a presser after the bill was signed, and
he was asked about this EV mandate, and he pointed out,
and I don't think this gets said enough. You say
it all the time, but it's just not put out
by the alphabet soup on a regular basis. So you've
got a state that's putting in these zero emission mandates.
(31:34):
They're talking about pushing for EV only vehicles, getting rid
of the combustion engine, blah, blah, blah. The list goes
on and on and on. It's all great in theory,
but you don't even have enough charging stations set up.
So in other words, how how did the states survive financially?
Because to build these charging stations is going to cost money.
That money has to come from somewhere. So in theory,
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before the b-b-b, if you didn't have enough charging stations,
how was, for example, the state of California going to
get enough money? They never finished the railroad they were
going to do. How are they going to get enough
money to have enough charging stations to make this effective.
S14 (32:08):
Well, it's all subsidized, too. There's not a single, uh,
EV charging station company that that is making a profit today.
They are all losing money, and they all get a
bunch of. They were getting federal government subsidies. Those have disappeared.
They were getting state government subsidies. Uh, so you're right,
these charging stations don't don't just don't make sense. And
part of the reason is that people want to charge
(32:29):
at home. They do 80% of their charging at home
and 20% of the stations somewhere. And if you know,
if you took all the gas stations and you said, okay,
we're taking away 80% of your business, people could do
that in the garage now, uh, they couldn't make money
on that either. There's another factor, too. You mentioned Elon Musk. Uh,
Tesla has gotten more than $1 billion for many years
(32:50):
in a row. And these are credits that other companies
have to purchase from Tesla, uh, State of California, for example,
requires if you aren't producing enough EVs, uh, they give
credits to firms that are producing EVs. But if you
aren't producing EVs, you have to buy these credits. So
that's going to go away as well. Tesla's going to
lose $1 billion a year on all these credits. Uh,
(33:11):
just just huge changes. And by the way, the market
demand is not good either. Uh, market share in the
US is now down to 7% for EVs. It slipped
from about 8%, uh, six months ago. And the American
Automobile Association did a survey just at a survey on
electric vehicles. And it was the worst EV survey in
(33:32):
many years. They found that only 16% of current drivers
were likely or very likely to consider an EV for
their next purchase. That was 25% three years ago, and
this is the worst it's been since 2019. And this
is before all the the tax credits. You know, they
can still get tax credits at a dealer, but they
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won't be able to get that this fall. So EVs
are stalled in the US right now. And just again
a huge change.
S1 (33:59):
Yeah. Wow. You know it's interesting I read another survey, Steve,
that said that 45% of people who are current EV
owners said never again. So they tried it once. They
thought it sounded good. We're going to protect the planet,
yada yada. And they said, absolutely not it. You know,
it's interesting. I remember seeing historic photos of Ford actually
trying an electric vehicle back in the early 1900s. So
(34:21):
the writer of Ecclesiastes said, there's nothing new under the sun.
We didn't like it then. We don't like it now.
So the other thing that I like to is that
I think in a free market, going back to Ford,
I like the idea of competition. When a state or
a governmental entity says to me, you can't have that
kind of a stove, you can't drive that kind of car,
you can't use that kind of a light bulb. We're
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moving away from everything that defines us as a nation.
Competition drives the market. Make all kinds of gas stoves,
electric stoves, all kinds of cars, electric combustion, make all
kinds of light bulbs. Could somebody please, please get the
incandescent bulbs back? I cannot stand these LED bulbs. Thank
you very much. But it's about competition. So I think
it wasn't just a philosophical discussion. It wasn't just a hey,
(35:04):
the numbers aren't there. I think this is a stimulus
to the market and to competition. What do you think?
S14 (35:10):
Well, I think it could be. And EVs are going
to have to compete and they're going to get better
and better. But again, the idea that the government's got
to force everybody to do this to, uh, to stop
the storms from getting stronger is just, you know, that's
modern superstition. And, uh, so we're going to have, uh,
we're going to have more competition and just the vast,
vast change. And, um, uh, it's going to be interesting
(35:32):
to watch watch what goes on in the next few months.
S1 (35:34):
Yeah. You sent me a survey, and I appreciate it
so much from the American Automobile Automobile Association. I said
that I saw a survey that said 45% of current
EV owners would not do it again, when the American
Automobile Association puts out a survey and it says that
they've got very abysmal numbers for people who would do it.
And the numbers have gone down, by the way, very
likely from 2022 was at 25%. It's now down in
(35:57):
2024 to 18%. I'm pretty sure that the American Automobile
Association wants to know what kind of cars people want
to drive. So in other words, it's been tried and
people just don't buy it. Literally. Not just figuratively. They
just don't buy it. We've got more. I love the
work that you do, Steve. I want to get our
friends to read your books. Plural. But the one I've
got the link to right now is called Green Breakdown
(36:18):
The Coming Renewable Energy Failure. I've also got a link
to Steve's website. He does talk all over the place.
He's on top of these issues, and he's really in
tune with the fact that there's been a lot of
proselytizing about these renewable energy plans, but the facts just
don't bear them out. Steve does a wonderful job of
breaking that down for us, not only in these conversations,
(36:39):
but in the books that he writes as well. More
with Steve Gorham right after this. We are visiting with
Steve Gorham, who's executive director of the Climate Science Coalition
of America and the author of four books on energy,
(37:00):
climate change and sustainable development. He's got over 100,000 copies
in print. His latest book, which is linked on my
information page, is entitled Green Breakdown The Coming Renewable Energy Failure.
You know, I have to tell you, Steve, I don't
think a lot of people, I'm certainly one of them,
immediately draw a connection between energy and artificial intelligence. But
you did. And you say that it is actually going
(37:22):
to impact the US power grid. I'm fascinated by this.
Tell me about it.
S14 (37:26):
Well, it is. And this is this is huge. I
can't I can't overemphasize your listeners how big this is.
But we've been in an artificial intelligence revolution for about
30 months now. A company called ChatGPT released what they
call a conversational AI chatbot bot about 30 months ago.
And this chat bot was a language and could be
(37:49):
run on machines, and machines could learn the complexities of
human language and interaction. And it was also able to
create text and images and music and videos. The chatbot
chatbot attracted over a million users within five days when
it was put out, and now it's leading the the
artificial revolution. And all the big companies Amazon, Google, Microsoft
(38:13):
and even Tesla are investing billions in new data centers
to be able to run artificial intelligence. According to USA
data centers, at the start of 2024, we had less
than 2700 data centers in the US, and these were running, um, uh,
cloud storage and the internet, but now we have 3900
(38:33):
data centers. And just in just 18 months, it's increased
by 40%. And and these things are just amazing what's
going on. So, um, I'll give you some ideas here.
There's a, um, there's a company called Connex in, in
Edgeconnex in Ohio that's building two data centers in New Albany, Ohio,
(38:56):
to be completed by the fall of 2027. And it's
it's a combination of existing warehouse and new construction. Uh,
it's going to total one point 2,000,000ft². It's going to
cover an area larger than 20 football fields. And this
is just one of the smaller ones in Texas. And
by the way, they have to power these things when
you put in these these AI data centers. They use
(39:19):
6 to 10 times as much electricity as the previous
data centers did just to run the internet. And it's
been estimated that, um, our, our amount of electricity is
going to go up to 20% of US demand by 2030.
But here's here's another one. So this is in Texas.
(39:40):
They now have applications to build more than 100 gas
fired power plants to power these data centers. 108 new plants,
17 expansions. They're going to provide 58GW of electrical power. Wow.
Now Texas is the biggest win state in the United States.
There are 15,000 wind turbines operating in Texas. But when
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they build these these, uh, these more than 100 gas
fired plants, they will produce three times as much electricity
as all the wind turbines in Texas. And, you know,
they want to get most of these done by 2028.
What's going on is just astonishing. Uh, just a week ago,
President Trump was in Pennsylvania at a conference called an
(40:21):
Energy Innovation Summit, and they announced private investments of more
than $90 billion in AI data centers in Pennsylvania. And, um,
it's again, just just a huge, huge impact. But the
biggest of all is a is is meta. Uh, meta
is claiming to build the largest data center in the
(40:42):
Western Hemisphere. Uh, this is going to go in northeast Louisiana.
They've they've they now signed a contract. The state agrees.
They broken ground on it. This thing is when it
when they finish it in 2030, it's going to use
twice as much electricity as the city of New Orleans.
S1 (40:57):
Oh my word.
S14 (40:58):
A single facility. And they're going to put in three
big gas fired power plants to power this thing at
a cost of more than 3 billion. But, I mean,
it's just astonishing what's going on. And we're the world
leader in this. We're trying to keep ahead of China.
Just just big, big deal.
S1 (41:12):
Yeah. And the bigger, bigger deal inside this big, big
deal that you rightly identified is the fact that. Tell
me again now, when you think you're using Facebook for free,
it's not data, is it? Is the bitcoin of information. Right.
And so when they have these.
S14 (41:28):
Advertising and a lot of people pay for advertising.
S1 (41:31):
Yeah exactly.
S14 (41:32):
And if you do Google search now the first thing
that comes up on Google is an AI thing. To
answer your question.
S1 (41:38):
Yes, exactly.
S14 (41:40):
There's an awful lot going on with this. And, you know,
now the renewable folks would like all this to be
wind and solar, but wind and solar has some big problems.
One is they're intermittent. And these these AI routines run
24 hours a day for weeks on end to, to
be able to, to work. And so what's going on
(42:03):
is that people are we're, uh, we're restarting nuclear power plants.
The Palisades plant in Michigan, uh, one of the Three
Mile Island reactors in Pennsylvania. Uh, they're extending coal plants
that were scheduled for for closure. Tennessee, Utah, West Virginia,
Indiana and other states. And then, as I say, we
have more than 200 gas fired power plants in planning
(42:25):
or under construction around the country. So, you know, the
folks that want this renewables transmission, they're kind of fading
back in the rear view mirror with all of this
that's going on.
S1 (42:34):
Yeah. Exactly. Right. Well, and my point about these data
centers again is that not only are they using a
whole bunch of energy, were vulnerable. If China ever decided
to use an electronic magnetic pulse, uh, bomb, kind of
a instrument without, uh, Without usual unilateral warfare. Just think
how these data centers would be impacted. So there's a
vulnerability there. But just when you talk about the size,
(42:56):
just your use of meta and the figures of the
use of energy in his power plants, his data centers
versus the city of New Orleans. It's it serves not
only as a comment about the energy situation in the
United States, but it also reminds us about data and culling.
So the next time you feel like sending your DNA
to one of those companies out there that wants to
tell you whether or not you were related to Eric
(43:18):
the Red, don't do it because it's going to end
up in a warehouse in northern Louisiana. Okay. That's important
for you to understand, Steve. Thank you. You're always on
top of these things I appreciate so much. Just real quick.
I've got 30s. So the New York Times said in
an essay that you should only mate with a short
person to save the planet. Can you tell me in
30s why they think that's right?
S14 (43:40):
Well, you know, that's a crazy article, but that's that's
one of the sidebars for my book, Green Breakdown. There's
150 color sidebars that have all these crazy headlines about
energy and and climate. People should pick it up and
get the real story.
S1 (43:54):
Yeah. And in fact, I have to tell you those sidebars,
the whole book is excellent, but those sidebars are worth
it in and of themselves. So the latest book and remember,
Steve has written for is called Green Breakdown The Coming
Renewable Energy Failure. I've also got a direct link to
his website as well. All you got to do is
go to the information page. That's easy under the synopsis
of each day's hour. For every day that we do,
(44:14):
there's a red box. Click it. It says program details
and audio. Even if you don't remember the words, just click.
The red box takes you over to the information page.
There's a much longer bio of Steve's. You can understand
who he is and how he's wonderfully qualified to be
involved in these conversations. There is again, a direct link
to his website, and also the most recent of the
four books he's written, Green Breakdown The Coming Renewable Energy Failure. Steve,
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Here are some of the news headlines we're watching.
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The conference was over. The president won a pledge.
S4 (01:55):
Americans worshiping government over God.
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Extremely rare safety move by a 17 years.
S6 (02:01):
The Palestinians and Israelis negotiated every.
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Idea is not.
S1 (02:19):
To in the market with Janet Parshall a very happy
Monday to you. I have been tweeting all over the
weekend and today as well, about the atrocities against Druze
and Christians in Syria. This is a horrific situation. And again,
you turn to the usual suspects, the UN crickets, the
major media crickets of what's going on. But the atrocities continue.
(02:42):
Here's more now from CBN news.
S7 (02:46):
In Syria's Sweida province. The cease fire is rapidly deteriorating.
Over 1000 civilians have been killed, mostly Druze, but also
Christians among the dead. Pastor Khalid of the good Shepherd
Evangelical Church, murdered along with his entire extended family by
pro-regime jihadist militias in the atrocity, has mobilized outrage across
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Israel's 150,000 strong Druse community, many of whom are demanding action.
S8 (03:14):
I can't stay still watching my relatives, my people, being
slaughtered without doing anything. I know I don't have military experience,
but at least I did what I would do. What?
It's what the minimum I can do to help my people.
S7 (03:30):
Israel has responded with emergency medical aid, and they've also
continued sporadic air strikes in defense of the beleaguered Druse
in Sweida. But Muslim countries like Turkey are condemning Israel's involvement.
S9 (03:42):
I want to say this once again, clearly and plainly.
Israel is a lawless, ruthless, unprincipled, spoiled, indulged and frenzied
terrorist state.
S7 (03:58):
In Judea and Samaria. U.S. ambassador Mike Huckabee visited the
Christian village of Taibeh this weekend after fires damaged its
ancient church and cemetery. Some say the fires were started
by Arabs targeting Israeli farmland, but local leaders continue to
blame Jewish settlers.
S10 (04:14):
Solidarity with the people who just want to live their
lives in peace, to be able to go to their
own land, to be able to go to their place
of worship.
S7 (04:24):
Settler leaders argue that accusations of violence are often distorted
and that Jewish communities are frequently under siege.
S11 (04:31):
The Jewish communities of Judea and Samaria are victimized constantly,
bombarded constantly by Arab terrorism and violence, and in response,
the the level of violence perpetrated by Jews. Although it
is unfortunately not zero. And it should be, and we're
working on getting it to zero. It is so small
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as appears to be off the charts in comparison to
the number of people in the population. It's something like 0.056.
S7 (05:03):
Israelis living in Judea and Samaria say many of the
reported attacks on Palestinians are simply Jews defending themselves from
Palestinian initiated violence.
S11 (05:13):
By undermining the legitimacy of the Jewish communities in Judea
and Samaria. You clear the way for creating a Palestinian state,
and you undermine the settlers and connect them in all
sorts of ways to the IDF. You essentially tarnish the
moral standing of Israel's army.
S7 (05:34):
With the cease fire in Syria crumbling and competing claims
fueling unrest in Judea and Samaria, the Middle East looks
to be entering another volatile and unpredictable week from Jerusalem.
I'm Chuck Holten for CBN news.
S1 (05:47):
Well we did a study on Israel yesterday in church.
And I have to tell you if there were ever
a time to say, walk through life with the Bible
in one hand and the newspaper in the other, it
is now. Now let's listen to this report from Reuters Bedouins.
You often see them when you go to visit Israel.
When you leave Jerusalem, you're on your way to Bethlehem.
You will see the Bedouins with their flocks in the fields,
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just as they were doing it thousands of years ago.
They are evacuating serious way to Provence as well because
tension is building. Have a listen.
S12 (06:17):
Hundreds of Bedouin civilians evacuated Syria's predominantly Druze city of
Sweida on Monday. The exodus is part of a US
backed truce meant to end fighting that has killed hundreds
of people, state media and witnesses said. The ceasefire took
hold on Sunday as Interior Ministry security forces deployed on
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Sawaya's outskirts, allowing for the release of hostages and detainees
held by the warring sides. A second large group of
civilians will be evacuated if the situation remains calm. A
as Syrian security forces member said. The fighting began a
week ago with clashes between Bedouin and Druze fighters. Damascus
troops sent to ease tensions were drawn into the violence
(07:01):
and accused of widespread violations against the Druze, with hundreds
reported killed. It has posed a major test for interim
president Ahmed Al-shara. The Druze are a small but influential
minority in Syria, Israel and Lebanon. They follow a religion
that is an offshoot of a branch of Islam. Some
ultra conservative Sunni Muslims deem their beliefs heretical, citing the
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goal of protecting the Druze and keeping southern Syria demilitarized.
Israel attacked government forces last week in the south and
struck the defence ministry in Damascus. Washington, which has expressed
support for Syria since Sharon met US President Donald Trump
in May, said it did not approve of Israel's strikes.
US envoy Tom barrack said on Monday the Syrian government
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needed to be held accountable. According to the United Nations,
at least 93,000 people have been uprooted by the fighting.
S1 (07:55):
I have to tell you again, the Druze are an
absolutely fascinating people. Craig and I have visited some of
their villages. They are an offshoot of Islam, but they
are Arabs who strongly support the nation of Israel, very
much involved in olive oil making, as an example. And
so this atrocity that's been taking place in Syria is
just unconscionable. You heard in Chuck Holton's piece for CBN
(08:16):
news earlier about Pastor Khalid Mezher. He is the pastor
at good Shepherd Evangelical Church. I sent out on X
a photo. Over 20 members of his family were killed.
The pastor as well as his extended family as well.
That has ignited outrage among the 150,000 strong Druze community.
And they are demanding action. And so the IDF, Israel
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is finding itself in the situation of trying to protect Israelis,
the Druze who support them, who live in Israel, who
have gone into Syria trying to protect their own and
their families as well. And it's now a tinderbox, as
you can see. Then you get Syrian forces coming out
of Damascus that just add to the brouhaha. And quite frankly,
it's a mess. But I woke up this morning and
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God is still very much on the throne. And it
is to him and to him alone. We need to
appeal wisdom for those in authority, protection for innocent citizens,
protection for those who are being annihilated, for who knows
what the cause is this time. So it is a
tinderbox in the Middle East. But when you think about it,
is it by accident that it's a tinderbox? It is
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the land where our Saviour comes from. It was a
promise made to Abraham. It is a place where the
Messiah himself will return again. You cannot look at this
as any other part of real estate on planet Earth.
This is at its core, has been always will be,
a spiritual battle. What do I do? What do you do?
We pray deep intercessory prayer for the Middle East back
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is because it goes to my constant reminder that we
are to be Bereans, the book of acts. What does
the Bible say? That they did? They tested all things
and they were fact checking. Not the Epicureans, not the Stoics,
not the Sanhedrin, not the, uh, um, not any other
group They were checking out what Paul had to say.
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So if they were fact checking Paul, it's a reminder
to us that we don't need campaigns about dis and
misinformation out there. We just need to test all things.
It's a biblical admonition, and that's what Michael does. Michael
is a superb researcher, by the way. He takes a
look at reports and stories and surveys that have come out,
and he breaks down the facts for us so we
can think critically and biblically, and we can really understand
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fact from political manipulation, which is, by the way, the latter.
So often the case. Michael is an assistant professor of
practice at the Bush School of Business at the Catholic
University of America. He's also a senior associate scholar at
the Charlotte Lozier Institute, one of my favorite organizations here
in DC. And he writes regularly for National Review Online.
There's a group called Hashtag We Count. It's a project, rather,
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and it comes out from a group called the Society
of Family Planning. Michael, thank you so much for joining us.
Take it from there. First of all, what is and
who are the Society of Family Planning Study?
S13 (11:45):
Family planning is a nonprofit group that supports abortion, supports contraception.
They have taken it upon themselves to start doing estimates
of abortion numbers after Dobbs, which is interesting. To be honest,
I'm well versed on pro-life issues. I had never actually
heard of this group before the Dobbs decision. I mean,
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I've heard of Guttmacher, I've heard of some of the
other groups that do research. I never heard of this
group before. But they are doing these estimates of abortion
numbers that they're circulating. And unfortunately, our good friends in
the mainstream media are just sort of parroting their numbers
without any criticism or critical thinking.
S1 (12:24):
Right. Exactly right. Which happens all the time. Which is again,
why we ask you back time and time and time again.
So the project is called hashtag we count. You time
stamped it. You said it was founded in 2024. So
this is brand spanking new. Okay. So what are they as?
They're prophets of doom. What are they predicting for the
numbers of abortions?
S13 (12:43):
Well, their projections indicate that abortion numbers have gone up
since the Dobbs decision. You know, that they do, uh,
surveys of abortion facilities. Uh, they do surveys of companies
that do telehealth abortions. And they have come to the
conclusion that abortion numbers have gone up. Uh, I'm a
bit skeptical of this. Um, you know, I would say
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that one thing we know about telehealth is it's very unregulated.
You know, just because an abortion pill was ordered doesn't
mean the abortion happened. Women change their minds. Some women
tragically order abortion pills for future use. Uh, and also,
you know, the companies that sell these abortion drugs, they
have incentives to inflate their numbers. You know, they want
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to make it look like pro-life laws are weak. There's
a big quote unquote, demand for abortion out there. So
I'm not really sure we can, uh, take their data
at face value. That said, you know, they do find
that a lot of abortions, I think close to 25%
post jobs are happening by telehealth. So this is an
important policy issue that pro-lifers should be aware of. You know,
I think we do need to certainly push back against this,
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but I'd be very skeptical of the numbers at any
pro-abortion group circulates.
S1 (13:52):
Couldn't agree more. That's the fox guarding the chicken house.
By the way, this report, as you alluded to before,
and you write about this in your piece, have shown
up in places like The Hill. It's the preeminent news
outlet on Capitol Hill, The Wall Street Journal, Axios, The
Associated Press, which feeds to a gazillion other media outlets,
and ABC news. So this just shows up as a
three minute package in your evening news. We're tempted to
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swallow it hook, line and sinker. But what Michael is
telling us is, wait a minute. You got to think
this through. So the linchpin in their debate is the
idea of chemical abortions. I have two responses. Number one,
your first point was excellent. Just because somebody wants them,
gets them, doesn't mean that they took them. Doesn't mean
that someone doesn't take pill number one before it was
reversed and that baby's life was saved. Thank God we
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have that technology narrow in its application, but we do
have that technology. Number two, with all the jumping up
and down and screaming about HIPAA, I guess that's convenient
if you're a liberal. But what about telling somebody if
you're CVS, Walgreens, Walmart, any place where they're selling these
abortion drugs, who's giving the information to groups like we
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count that we distributed the abortion pill. Shouldn't that be
private information?
S13 (14:59):
Yeah, I agree. I think that, you know, there is
a lot of privacy concerns that are certainly legitimate and valid.
And again, you know, I really would not take these
entities that do telehealth abortions, uh, at face value. You know, again,
I think they have real clear incentives to make it
appear as if there's a big demand for telehealth abortion.
There's a big demand for abortion. You know, it would
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not surprise me at all to see these numbers inflated.
S1 (15:23):
Yeah. Couldn't agree more. And you hinted at something else
that I think is worth considering, which is I think
that pro-abortion groups want to make it look like, if
you can purport that there was an 8% uptick post Post-dobbs.
In the numbers of abortions in this country. What you're
implying is that pro-life laws are utterly meaningless. Therefore, the
goal is to take the wind out of the sails
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of those movements to try to put pro-life laws in
place so it doesn't make any difference. You can't stop
it anyway. Is there any legitimacy from your vantage point
to their argument?
S13 (15:53):
Absolutely not. It's absurd. There's a big, big body of
research that shows that the incidence of abortion is sensitive
to its legal status. There's a big body of research
showing that even incremental pro-life laws prevent abortions to save lives.
The best data we have post-dobbs is from birth data.
One thing I tell a lot of pro-life audiences is that,
you know, in a post-dobbs world, abortions are hard to count.
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Women go to other states. Women go to other countries.
Sometimes they can try to self-induce. They can get pills
through the mail. So getting a real good handle on
abortions is difficult. So abortions are hard to count, but
babies are easy to count. So if we see good
statistical evidence that births are going up 7 or 8
months after a pro-life law takes effect. That's very powerful
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evidence that pro-life law is stopping abortions and saving lives.
And we have not one, not two, but three states
out of Texas showing that, um, after the Texas Heartbeat
Act took effect, uh, you know, the birth rate in
Texas went up by 1000 babies every month. So looking
at birth data from Texas Heartbeat Act saving over a
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thousand lives every month. There's other studies have compared birth
trends and pro-life states to birth trends in states where
abortion is legal, and they find big disparities. You know,
thousands of lives are being saved by these laws.
S1 (17:09):
Yeah. Be a good brand. Test all things. Michael, I
find it very paradoxical that pre Dobbs in the world
of Roe, all these pro-abortion groups were very loath to
count the numbers of abortions that were being done. Isn't
it interesting post Roe. Now in the land of Dobbs.
They can't put out numbers fast enough. Buyer beware. We're
not done. Michael wrote another piece that's posted on National
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Review Online, and it also has to do with abortion rates.
You're going to find this one very interesting, by the way.
You can follow him on X and you can read
his pieces at National Review Online. And I have a
link to the Charlotte Lozier Institute as well, so you
can learn more about their great work back after this.
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We're visiting with Doctor Who is a professor at the
School of Business at Catholic University, as well as a
senior associate scholar at the Charlotte Lozier Institute, and he
frequently writes to National Review Online. So we were just
talking about this hashtag we count or survey that just
came out. Michael gave you a new set of glasses
so you could begin to see these numbers in a
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whole different way. But now this is the same thing.
This is about counting abortions again. Michael, the point I
made just before the break, abortion organizations were loathe to
ever give us numbers on how many abortions were being performed.
We don't keep those records. We don't check blah, blah blah.
And now Rose fallen. Dobbs is in place, and now
everybody and their brother is counting. So now there's a
report out. You write from Ireland's Department of Health. What
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did they find about abortions?
S13 (18:40):
Yeah, some bad news from overseas. It looks like last year, 2024,
the number of abortions performed in Ireland went up by
almost eight percentage points. Uh. It's sad. Uh, tragic, but
it's also unsurprising. Ireland at one point had some of
the best pro-life laws in all of Europe. Uh, they
had the Eighth Amendment in their constitution, uh, which provided
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legal protection for pre-born children. Sadly, Irish voters in 2018
repealed the Eighth Amendment, and in 2019, abortion was legalized.
And when countries legalized abortion, abortion numbers go up. There
were over 6000 abortions that first year. In 2019, numbers
increased by over 60%, and now there's over 10,000 abortions
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taking place every year in Ireland. So numbers are going up. Um,
you know, it's tragic, but it does really show that
policy matters. And once you legalize abortion, numbers go up.
We saw that in the 70s. And we're seeing that
here in Ireland right now.
S1 (19:37):
Wow. That's heartbreaking. I remember also before they removed that
eighth amendment, remember the abortion ship that would come and
sail around Ireland. Women would literally come off the island,
get on the ship to get their abortions. So what's
the explanation for the uptick then, in England and Wales,
as long as we're lingering in the UK?
S13 (19:53):
Right. The new data from England and Wales, I think
this is a little bit older comes from 2022, but
it's the most recent data we have indicating forces went
up by nearly 13%. And it's again further evidence that
policy choices matter. England you know, like the United States,
they made policies regarding chemical abortion drugs much more permissive
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in 2018. You know, they reduced the number of visits
for chemical abortions. You know, there's two drugs we would
have to take. They used to have to make separate
visits for each. Uh, now they just only allowed for
one in-person visit after 2018. Then, during the pandemic, they
did the exact same thing United States did. They allowed
women to obtain these dangerous chemical abortion drugs by telehealth
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without any in-person medical exams. So they changed that policy
in 2020. Parliament made it permanent as of 2022. So again,
women can get these chemical abortion drugs by telehealth without
any in-person medical examination. So again, it's really no surprise
that abortion numbers are going up in England and Wales.
S1 (20:56):
Wow. It's a game changer. We have to be factual
here and we have to be realistic. The abortion drug
has absolutely changed this debate. So let me just kind
of get your philosophical take on this. I don't think
that the FDA will ever remove their approval, despite the
fact that it was politicized under Bill Clinton. They turned
a blind eye and a deaf ear. They did not
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pay any attention to the European trials, where women were,
in fact, bleeding to death. It was politicized grease tracks boom.
And the abortion regime. I'm going to call it that
because it's two pills. Not one was approved. The argument
before the Supreme Court was whether or not we could
get back in place, some safeguards, some rails around this.
The Supreme Court is not ever going to say no,
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you can't have the abortion drug on the market. But
what's our hope for the safeguards, the rails being put
back in? And could HHS do something like that?
S13 (21:47):
Well, a couple of things. We did try to litigate this.
The Supreme Court, we didn't get the outcome we wanted.
But you have to look at why. And the reason
why is Supreme Court ruled the plaintiffs lacked standing. It
wasn't that our arguments were bad or faulty. It was
a question of standing. So if we can find another
case where plaintiffs have stronger standing, we may get some
relief through the courts. I think, frankly, a better approach
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right now is just through HHS. You know, policy can
be changed. You know, the Biden administration made things worse
by allowing women to obtain these, you know, chemical abortion
drugs by telehealth that could be reversed by the Trump administration.
You know, Robert F Kennedy Jr junior has indicated he
is concerned about this. He's doing the research. They are
looking at the safety of these abortion drugs. I hope
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and pray he does the right thing. And we don't
have a real clear timeline as of yet. But we
need to be praying. You know, HHS could take action.
They could put some safeguards in place. They could take
chemical abortion drugs off the market completely. We just have
to pray they do the right thing here.
S1 (22:44):
Yeah. Amen. First of all, thank you for the way
that you discussed the action by the United States Supreme Court.
So they didn't go to the merits, which is really
the guts of the issue. It was a procedural question.
And standing really means you have the right to bring
the case forward. So this could happen again. This is
a time out. It's not game over, which I think
is important. Thank you also for indicating that Kennedy at
HHS has said yes. I think there should be a
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place where we review this again for common sense and safeguards. Look,
if he wants to take the artificial food coloring out
of my ice cream, great. But could we get some
guardrails back in for the abortion pill? That would certainly help.
He didn't write about this, but I'd be remiss if
I didn't ask you. What do you think of a
rogue judge? Judge who comes along and basically says, I'm
going to repudiate an act of Congress. And in the
big beautiful bill where they decided to defund Planned Parenthood.
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When it comes to Medicaid, this judge goes, no. That
lasted about 5.5 seconds. Boom. And it was, again, a
question of the separation of powers. Um, I what's your
reaction to the fact that there was a move to
defund Planned Parenthood through this medical, this federal program?
S13 (23:42):
Um, I'm actually very happy that Congress did defund Planned Parenthood.
I think this judge's ruling will be overturned. You know,
we have precedent from, uh, you know, case that was
decided this year. The Supreme Court did say that South
Carolina could exclude Planned Parenthood from their Medicaid program. So
I think we have a pretty good precedent there planned
for an activist judge. And they got it and they
got a short term win. But I think it'll be overturned.
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I think the defunding will will stay in place.
S1 (24:06):
I couldn't agree with more. Thank you so much for
that positive assessment. Again, it goes back to separation of powers.
A federal judge cannot usurp an action by the Congress.
By the way, we are the people. We speak through
that legislative branch. We're not an oligarchy. The judges don't
rule the land. They rule on the law, period. But
they can't make it up as they go along. Michael.
Thank you. Excellent information. Keep writing, keep influencing, and please
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keep sharing with us. We really need to know fact
from fiction. And you do that so well. We'll take
a break and be right back after this. Jesus told
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Janet Parshall. We're going to take a look now at
what's going on when it comes to the environment and
renewable energy. And I was just talking about the big
beautiful bill before and how a component of that massive
piece of legislation is defunding Planned Parenthood. Well, is there
anything in there when it comes to renewable energy? The
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person to ask is Steve Gorham, executive director of the
Climate Science Coalition of America, author of four books on energy,
climate change and sustainable development. He's got over 100,000 copies
in print. His latest, and I have a link for
you to learn how to get your copy on my website.
It's called Green Breakdown The Coming Renewable Energy Failure. Every
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one of his books, by the way, is well worth
the read. So Steve, thanks so much for joining us.
Always appreciate you and the great work that you're doing.
So the big one, the b-b-b, the big beautiful bill
became law. Was there anything in there because it was
a monstrous bit of legislation. Most Americans don't know what's
in it. One would hope that every person who voted
for it at least knew what was in it before
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they voted. But is there anything in it dealing with
renewable energy?
S14 (26:23):
Hi Janet, great to join you again. Yeah, the changes
over the last three months have been huge, uh, legal, economic, uh, technological.
And the one big, one big beautiful bill is part
of that. And we've been subsidizing wind since about 1992, uh,
with tax credits and, and, uh, various, uh, portions, investment
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tax credits, production tax credits. We've also been subsidizing solar.
And the big beautiful bill just crunched those down. Uh,
they basically said you have to begin construction within 60
days of the passage of the bill, and that's almost
expired already. Or you have to complete construction of a
wind or solar system by 2028. And there have been
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all kinds of articles written on how this is a
nightmare scenario in Scientific American, for example, for us clean energy.
But these were the same folks that were claiming that
wind and solar were the lowest, lowest cost generators of electricity,
of course. But now they say we have to have
all the subsidies. But this is night and night and day. Now,
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you know, under President Biden, the subsidies to renewables, both
tax credits and outright grants and loans went from about
$15 billion a year to just about $100 billion a year.
And Mr. Trump has cut all that down. Now, that
is that is being shut down. And it's not only
wind and solar, but it's also electric vehicles.
S1 (27:52):
Yeah, yeah. Hence the departure of one Elon Musk, I'm
quite sure. So it's interesting because it isn't just about
climate change. Just to put all our cards on the
table here. There's politics in the air. These companies fund
particular candidates who belong to a particular party. And then
what happens is the recipient of the campaign funds becomes
the become the lions on the floor of the House
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and the Senate, who then argue for the passage of
these kinds of subsidies. Because in reality, if you took
the campaign money out of it, Steve, I don't know
how many people would be pushing this on the floor
of Congress because it's cumbersome, it's not effective, it's not
energy efficient, and it's not financially feasible. And yet there
is still this big push. Not anymore. At least if
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you want to do it, go ahead. Welcome to the
free market. The government's not going to subsidize you anymore.
That's a hugely important step. It also, by the way,
it seems to me, opens the door for competition, which
is good for any free market. It makes sense to me.
So it's a hypothetical, but I'd love your take on this.
If we were to take out the political campaigning and
the funds that go along with that, do you think
we'd see a kind of aggressive push for this on
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the floor? I don't know how much of this is
ideologically driven.
S14 (28:58):
Well, it's amazing they got it through Congress, really, because
once you put in all these these funds that are
transferred in these credits, and people get battery plants and
EV plants in their in their districts and they don't
want to vote against it, you know, it's so the
power of Mr. Trump and the pressure he was putting
on everybody really made a whole lot of changes. And
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and the second big part of this is the road
for electric vehicles just got much, much steeper. So first,
the big beautiful Bill canceled the 7500 EV tax credit
that you would get for purchasing a new car. And
in addition, if you sold an old EV, you could
get about a $4,000 tax credit. But it's even bigger
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than that because outside of the big, beautiful bill, uh,
President Trump and the Congress passed a number of resolutions
against zero emissions mandates. Now, these these are called zero
emissions vehicle mandates. Zevs. And we had 22 states that
passed these California led the way. But these mandates said
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that they would only allow sales of new car sales
to be electric vehicles by year 2035 or 2040 or longer.
And what, what Trump and and the Congress have done
is they have struck down the waivers that the states had, uh,
to pass these laws, which are effectively pollution control laws.
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They had to get a waiver from the federal government,
from the EPA. Uh, under the 1970 Clean Air Act,
it said that the the federal government is responsible for
pollution control, but they allowed waivers to go in because
some states, like California, had earlier laws. And California has
gotten more than 100 of these waivers in the last
30 years. And now these are all canceled. All of
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these zero emissions mandates by 22 states are now struck down.
They can no longer tell their automakers that to reduce pollution,
they have to produce electric vehicles.
S1 (31:00):
Mhm.
S14 (31:01):
Uh, this is just this is just huge. Now California
is challenging this in court. But if they lose all
of these Zev mandates are going to. Going to disappear.
Just a huge, huge change.
S1 (31:14):
So let me and I'm glad we brought their two
issues combined here. So let me see if I can
break them down a little bit. I remember the president
was doing a presser after the bill was signed, and
he was asked about this EV mandate, and he pointed out,
and I don't think this gets said enough. You say
it all the time, but it's just not put out
by the alphabet soup on a regular basis. So you've
got a state that's putting in these zero emission mandates.
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They're talking about pushing for EV only vehicles, getting rid
of the combustion engine, blah, blah, blah. The list goes
on and on and on. It's all great in theory,
but you don't even have enough charging stations set up.
So in other words, how how did the states survive financially?
Because to build these charging stations is going to cost money.
That money has to come from somewhere. So in theory,
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before the b-b-b, if you didn't have enough charging stations,
how was, for example, the state of California going to
get enough money? They never finished the railroad they were
going to do. How are they going to get enough
money to have enough charging stations to make this effective.
S14 (32:08):
Well, it's all subsidized, too. There's not a single, uh,
EV charging station company that that is making a profit today.
They are all losing money, and they all get a
bunch of. They were getting federal government subsidies. Those have disappeared.
They were getting state government subsidies. Uh, so you're right,
these charging stations don't don't just don't make sense. And
part of the reason is that people want to charge
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at home. They do 80% of their charging at home
and 20% of the stations somewhere. And if you know,
if you took all the gas stations and you said, okay,
we're taking away 80% of your business, people could do
that in the garage now, uh, they couldn't make money
on that either. There's another factor, too. You mentioned Elon Musk. Uh,
Tesla has gotten more than $1 billion for many years
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in a row. And these are credits that other companies
have to purchase from Tesla, uh, State of California, for example,
requires if you aren't producing enough EVs, uh, they give
credits to firms that are producing EVs. But if you
aren't producing EVs, you have to buy these credits. So
that's going to go away as well. Tesla's going to
lose $1 billion a year on all these credits. Uh,
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just just huge changes. And by the way, the market
demand is not good either. Uh, market share in the
US is now down to 7% for EVs. It slipped
from about 8%, uh, six months ago. And the American
Automobile Association did a survey just at a survey on
electric vehicles. And it was the worst EV survey in
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many years. They found that only 16% of current drivers
were likely or very likely to consider an EV for
their next purchase. That was 25% three years ago, and
this is the worst it's been since 2019. And this
is before all the the tax credits. You know, they
can still get tax credits at a dealer, but they
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won't be able to get that this fall. So EVs
are stalled in the US right now. And just again
a huge change.
S1 (33:59):
Yeah. Wow. You know it's interesting I read another survey, Steve,
that said that 45% of people who are current EV
owners said never again. So they tried it once. They
thought it sounded good. We're going to protect the planet,
yada yada. And they said, absolutely not it. You know,
it's interesting. I remember seeing historic photos of Ford actually
trying an electric vehicle back in the early 1900s. So
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the writer of Ecclesiastes said, there's nothing new under the sun.
We didn't like it then. We don't like it now.
So the other thing that I like to is that
I think in a free market, going back to Ford,
I like the idea of competition. When a state or
a governmental entity says to me, you can't have that
kind of a stove, you can't drive that kind of car,
you can't use that kind of a light bulb. We're
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moving away from everything that defines us as a nation.
Competition drives the market. Make all kinds of gas stoves,
electric stoves, all kinds of cars, electric combustion, make all
kinds of light bulbs. Could somebody please, please get the
incandescent bulbs back? I cannot stand these LED bulbs. Thank
you very much. But it's about competition. So I think
it wasn't just a philosophical discussion. It wasn't just a hey,
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the numbers aren't there. I think this is a stimulus
to the market and to competition. What do you think?
S14 (35:10):
Well, I think it could be. And EVs are going
to have to compete and they're going to get better
and better. But again, the idea that the government's got
to force everybody to do this to, uh, to stop
the storms from getting stronger is just, you know, that's
modern superstition. And, uh, so we're going to have, uh,
we're going to have more competition and just the vast,
vast change. And, um, uh, it's going to be interesting
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to watch watch what goes on in the next few months.
S1 (35:34):
Yeah. You sent me a survey, and I appreciate it
so much from the American Automobile Automobile Association. I said
that I saw a survey that said 45% of current
EV owners would not do it again, when the American
Automobile Association puts out a survey and it says that
they've got very abysmal numbers for people who would do it.
And the numbers have gone down, by the way, very
likely from 2022 was at 25%. It's now down in
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2024 to 18%. I'm pretty sure that the American Automobile
Association wants to know what kind of cars people want
to drive. So in other words, it's been tried and
people just don't buy it. Literally. Not just figuratively. They
just don't buy it. We've got more. I love the
work that you do, Steve. I want to get our
friends to read your books. Plural. But the one I've
got the link to right now is called Green Breakdown
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The Coming Renewable Energy Failure. I've also got a link
to Steve's website. He does talk all over the place.
He's on top of these issues, and he's really in
tune with the fact that there's been a lot of
proselytizing about these renewable energy plans, but the facts just
don't bear them out. Steve does a wonderful job of
breaking that down for us, not only in these conversations,
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but in the books that he writes as well. More
with Steve Gorham right after this. We are visiting with
Steve Gorham, who's executive director of the Climate Science Coalition
of America and the author of four books on energy,
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climate change and sustainable development. He's got over 100,000 copies
in print. His latest book, which is linked on my
information page, is entitled Green Breakdown The Coming Renewable Energy Failure.
You know, I have to tell you, Steve, I don't
think a lot of people, I'm certainly one of them,
immediately draw a connection between energy and artificial intelligence. But
you did. And you say that it is actually going
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to impact the US power grid. I'm fascinated by this.
Tell me about it.
S14 (37:26):
Well, it is. And this is this is huge. I
can't I can't overemphasize your listeners how big this is.
But we've been in an artificial intelligence revolution for about
30 months now. A company called ChatGPT released what they
call a conversational AI chatbot bot about 30 months ago.
And this chat bot was a language and could be
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run on machines, and machines could learn the complexities of
human language and interaction. And it was also able to
create text and images and music and videos. The chatbot
chatbot attracted over a million users within five days when
it was put out, and now it's leading the the
artificial revolution. And all the big companies Amazon, Google, Microsoft
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and even Tesla are investing billions in new data centers
to be able to run artificial intelligence. According to USA
data centers, at the start of 2024, we had less
than 2700 data centers in the US, and these were running, um, uh,
cloud storage and the internet, but now we have 3900
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data centers. And just in just 18 months, it's increased
by 40%. And and these things are just amazing what's
going on. So, um, I'll give you some ideas here.
There's a, um, there's a company called Connex in, in
Edgeconnex in Ohio that's building two data centers in New Albany, Ohio,
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to be completed by the fall of 2027. And it's
it's a combination of existing warehouse and new construction. Uh,
it's going to total one point 2,000,000ft². It's going to
cover an area larger than 20 football fields. And this
is just one of the smaller ones in Texas. And
by the way, they have to power these things when
you put in these these AI data centers. They use
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6 to 10 times as much electricity as the previous
data centers did just to run the internet. And it's
been estimated that, um, our, our amount of electricity is
going to go up to 20% of US demand by 2030.
But here's here's another one. So this is in Texas.
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They now have applications to build more than 100 gas
fired power plants to power these data centers. 108 new plants,
17 expansions. They're going to provide 58GW of electrical power. Wow.
Now Texas is the biggest win state in the United States.
There are 15,000 wind turbines operating in Texas. But when
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they build these these, uh, these more than 100 gas
fired plants, they will produce three times as much electricity
as all the wind turbines in Texas. And, you know,
they want to get most of these done by 2028.
What's going on is just astonishing. Uh, just a week ago,
President Trump was in Pennsylvania at a conference called an
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Energy Innovation Summit, and they announced private investments of more
than $90 billion in AI data centers in Pennsylvania. And, um,
it's again, just just a huge, huge impact. But the
biggest of all is a is is meta. Uh, meta
is claiming to build the largest data center in the
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Western Hemisphere. Uh, this is going to go in northeast Louisiana.
They've they've they now signed a contract. The state agrees.
They broken ground on it. This thing is when it
when they finish it in 2030, it's going to use
twice as much electricity as the city of New Orleans.
S1 (40:57):
Oh my word.
S14 (40:58):
A single facility. And they're going to put in three
big gas fired power plants to power this thing at
a cost of more than 3 billion. But, I mean,
it's just astonishing what's going on. And we're the world
leader in this. We're trying to keep ahead of China.
Just just big, big deal.
S1 (41:12):
Yeah. And the bigger, bigger deal inside this big, big
deal that you rightly identified is the fact that. Tell
me again now, when you think you're using Facebook for free,
it's not data, is it? Is the bitcoin of information. Right.
And so when they have these.
S14 (41:28):
Advertising and a lot of people pay for advertising.
S1 (41:31):
Yeah exactly.
S14 (41:32):
And if you do Google search now the first thing
that comes up on Google is an AI thing. To
answer your question.
S1 (41:38):
Yes, exactly.
S14 (41:40):
There's an awful lot going on with this. And, you know,
now the renewable folks would like all this to be
wind and solar, but wind and solar has some big problems.
One is they're intermittent. And these these AI routines run
24 hours a day for weeks on end to, to
be able to, to work. And so what's going on
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is that people are we're, uh, we're restarting nuclear power plants.
The Palisades plant in Michigan, uh, one of the Three
Mile Island reactors in Pennsylvania. Uh, they're extending coal plants
that were scheduled for for closure. Tennessee, Utah, West Virginia,
Indiana and other states. And then, as I say, we
have more than 200 gas fired power plants in planning
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or under construction around the country. So, you know, the
folks that want this renewables transmission, they're kind of fading
back in the rear view mirror with all of this
that's going on.
S1 (42:34):
Yeah. Exactly. Right. Well, and my point about these data
centers again is that not only are they using a
whole bunch of energy, were vulnerable. If China ever decided
to use an electronic magnetic pulse, uh, bomb, kind of
a instrument without, uh, Without usual unilateral warfare. Just think
how these data centers would be impacted. So there's a
vulnerability there. But just when you talk about the size,
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just your use of meta and the figures of the
use of energy in his power plants, his data centers
versus the city of New Orleans. It's it serves not
only as a comment about the energy situation in the
United States, but it also reminds us about data and culling.
So the next time you feel like sending your DNA
to one of those companies out there that wants to
tell you whether or not you were related to Eric
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the Red, don't do it because it's going to end
up in a warehouse in northern Louisiana. Okay. That's important
for you to understand, Steve. Thank you. You're always on
top of these things I appreciate so much. Just real quick.
I've got 30s. So the New York Times said in
an essay that you should only mate with a short
person to save the planet. Can you tell me in
30s why they think that's right?
S14 (43:40):
Well, you know, that's a crazy article, but that's that's
one of the sidebars for my book, Green Breakdown. There's
150 color sidebars that have all these crazy headlines about
energy and and climate. People should pick it up and
get the real story.
S1 (43:54):
Yeah. And in fact, I have to tell you those sidebars,
the whole book is excellent, but those sidebars are worth
it in and of themselves. So the latest book and remember,
Steve has written for is called Green Breakdown The Coming
Renewable Energy Failure. I've also got a direct link to
his website as well. All you got to do is
go to the information page. That's easy under the synopsis
of each day's hour. For every day that we do,
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there's a red box. Click it. It says program details
and audio. Even if you don't remember the words, just click.
The red box takes you over to the information page.
There's a much longer bio of Steve's. You can understand
who he is and how he's wonderfully qualified to be
involved in these conversations. There is again, a direct link
to his website, and also the most recent of the
four books he's written, Green Breakdown The Coming Renewable Energy Failure. Steve,
(44:38):
always delightful conversations. Thank you friends. We'll see you next
time on In the Market with Janet Parshall.
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