May 23, 2025 • 44 mins
Don’t be fooled, the fight for the lives of the pre-born doesn’t stop just because the political climate in Washington D.C. changes. On In The Market with Janet Parshall, a regular guest on the program addressed the ongoing battle against the abortion pill that has gone from being an outlier to one of the most widely used means of taking the life of the unborn. He warned us of the inherent danger of this option and why it may be time for this drug to have more government regulation over its distribution and use. Then we took a hard look at the recent massive power outages in Spain and Portugal where millions were without power after a celebration just weeks before in Spain where they touted 100 percent energy from renewable sources. Our climate expert addressed whether this is a neon warning sign to the United States about our own futures if we turn to complete dependance on alternative energy sources and whether or not this is the first major sign of what he calls “the green breakdown”. Is it possible that the anxiety and depression that many believers struggle with is less physical and more spiritually rooted in how our personal relationship with God operates? Our guest explained what an “insecure attachment to God” looks like and how it can have a dramatic impact on our mental wellbeing. She also explained how repairing that connection opens the door for God to share His healing story through our lives as a platform to lift up and encourage others who struggle with their own attachment relationship with Him. We boarded another radio flight to the land down under for more enlightening conversations with our favorite Scottish apologist. He addressed the effort to redefine womanhood in Scotland and whether or not believers should support corporations that support abortion among other thought-provoking topics. We gave you the opportunity to hear from a respected attorney who detailed a recent religious liberty victory out the Chicago Public School system and what the larger scale ramifications of this win means for religious liberty across the country going forward. We also spoke to that man who has turned statistics into powerful tools for ministry as he laid out the findings of this year’s American Worldview Inventory and explained why we are seeing significant faith shifts across the nation. Once again, we invite you to join us for another important discussion of the news of the week through the lens of God’s unchanging truth.
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we push through the storm, learning to trust in God
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Morgan writing style, it is a powerful book. I strongly
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Here are some of the news headlines we're watching.
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The conference was over. The president won a pledge.
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Americans worshiping government over God.
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Extremely rare safety move by a major 17 years.
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The Palestinians and the Israelis negotiated.
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The Bush tax is not.
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Hi, friends. Welcome to In the Market with Janet Parshall.
Happy Friday to you. Happy beginning of summer weekend. And
we remember those who have fallen, who poured out that
last full measure of devotion on this Memorial Day weekend.
And we thank the Lord for those who chose to
serve and in so doing, paid the ultimate price. May
we never, ever forget them. That old saying freedom is
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never free. So true. And there's something about being in Washington, D.C.,
I think just our proximity to Arlington Cemetery to see
row upon row upon row of white headstone now for
this weekend, all draped with U.S. flags as a way
of acknowledging their service to what they did for our country.
So thank somebody who's in uniform. And look around your church,
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see who's active military. See what you can do to
help lift their burden. Bring them a covered dish. Babysit
their kids. Tell them you'll take the kids for the weekend.
So husband and wife, when somebody's home on furlough, can
have a nice weekend together as a husband and wife,
help carry their burden because while you're in bed at night,
they're keeping the watch, okay? They watch for us, and
it's a sometimes very thankless job, and very often the
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poor military is being experimented upon. We certainly see that
tension here in Washington, D.C. right now. But in the meantime, Russia,
North Korea, Iran, they don't care. You want men dressed
as women in the U.S. military. Great. Wonderful. Keep it up.
It just makes us more vulnerable, says our rogue nations.
But now we've got a different approach, and let's just
hope we're going to see some of those recruitment numbers
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go up. Apparently they have gone up substantially over the
last year. And we thank God for those people who
are going to don that uniform. They're not drafted. They
did this by their own free will and we thank
God for their participation. We had a great conversation last
hour with a whole boatload of issues, a lot of
them focusing in on Washington State and some horrific stuff
that's coming out of that state. You didn't miss a
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back on the library shelf, and then it's just going
to be up there collecting dust, because the month of May,
the merry month of May, will have passed and June
comes along, we got a brand new truth tool. So
Robert Morgan's book Excuse Me really follows into a series
of books he's written about rules. Oh, wait wait wait,
don't don't leave the room. It isn't about rigid rules.
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It's about things we can learn that kind of a rule.
So he wrote one called the Red Sea Rules. When
you've got the enemy at your back and danger in front,
how does God deal with us? How does he rescue us?
The next one was called the Jordan River rules. Well,
you're about to go into unknown territory. What do I do?
How do I trust God? That's what that book's about.
This one's called the Mediterranean Sea Rules. And it goes
to acts 17, or, excuse me, 27 and 28. And
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it follows Paul's shipwreck. He was right smack dab in
the middle of God's will. And yet, boom! there was
a shipwreck. Did that make Paul out of God's will? Uh, no.
But it just made Paul understand that God is sovereign
and that God had plans for him. And sometimes obedience
brings with it some storms. So how then do we persevere?
It's a fabulous book. Robert Morgan is a superb writer.
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with Janet Parshall. Oh, Craig Parshall is with me, as
he always is. What we do on Fridays is we
take a look at the news around us, and then
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we look at it from a biblical perspective. And let
me tell you, no shortage of things to talk about.
We talked recently about this horrific bill that got signed
into law in Colorado. What a crazy bit of legislation,
the Kelly loving act, where you're just going to start
going after people if they dead name, which is a
made up word that means if Tommy wants to be
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called Susie and you call him Tommy instead of Susie,
you've used his dead name. You have to make up language, right,
to foment these bizarre ideas. Or misgendering a boy who
wants to be a girl. If you use he instead
of she, you've misgendered. And according to the great state
of Colorado, who apparently can't get enough pieces of cake
from Jack Phillips masterpiece Cake Shop, they just keep going
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after people who have a sincerely held religious viewpoint. And now,
because of this law being signed, now you got a
Christian camp in Colorado, the Christian camp that just might
be shut down according to Colorado's new transgender law. and
that's got a lot of people very, very concerned. This
Christian summer camp is in the foothills. They're expected to
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be shut down by state regulators in the coming months,
unless a federal judge decides that it can legally separate
campers by sex rather than by gender identity. Hey, when
I was a kid and I went to Crescent Lake
Bible Camp, the idea of boys and girls being the
same dorm. Ooh, ooh. They would have still changed my
camp experience. But now, because of this bizarro thinking that's
coming out of the state of Colorado, you got to
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put them all in the same place. You can't have
a distinction here for gender. And so the Christian camp's going, uh, no.
The name of the camp I can't even pronounce. But
it translates into I'd rather have Jesus. Oh, that lovely
hymn I just love that goes back to 1948. It
operates week long summer programs for kids ages 6 to
17 on 262 acres. I loved my church camp experience.
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Those were some of the highlights of my life. And now.
And if you think this is only going to happen
to a church camp in Colorado. Oh, awake o sleeper,
this is a part of a national movement to trample
underfoot what God said. Because after all, said the serpent,
rattling his tails, did God really say that? So give
me your take on this one, Craig, I hope. I'm
sorry that so often this has to be the answer,
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but I hope they lawyer up. I hope they really do.
S5 (08:08):
Yeah, there are a lot of great legal groups out
there that I think are, uh, meeting with clients and, uh,
talking about challenging this law, and I hope they do, uh,
this is part of the system and the blessing of
having a constitutional republic like we do. As a matter
of fact, you look around the globe, you just take
that globe and you spin it, and you look at
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countries around the world. We are very blessed. Uh, if
we can keep that republic, as Ben Franklin noted, uh,
and not lose it to sloppy judicial thinking right now,
we still have it. We still have freedom of religion.
We still have religious organizations protected under the First Amendment. And, uh,
I think it's appropriate that the camp and others, are
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equally aligned in religious ministry in Colorado. Think about filing
a lawsuit to challenge this. That's the legal way to
do it. It's the civic duty, I think, to protect
their ministry from overreaching legislation like this.
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Yeah. Unbelievable. Again, just trampling underfoot like the First Amendment, apparently,
to some of these change agents just has no meaning whatsoever.
So your sincerely held religious beliefs. Well, I got a
newsflash for you, for people, particularly in education, who apparently
skip their civics class, uh, it was so precious and
so important. It's called the First Amendment for a reason,
and it does protect our religious liberties. It's a hard
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fought one. Now we have to keep it back after this.
When your plans collapse, make sure you don't. That's just
one of ten powerful principles in this month's truth Tool.
The Mediterranean Sea Rules by Robert Morgan draws life changing
lessons from Paul's shipwreck recorded in acts. Learn to navigate
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through the storm with faith and courage. As for your
copy of the Mediterranean Sea Rules, when you give a
gift of any amount to in the market, call eight 7758,
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Janet Parshall. By the way, we had a great conversation
earlier this week with Doctor Jennifer Bones and Walt Heyer.
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Walt was a man who lived as a woman for
eight years, found Jesus Christ detransitioned back, and boy, has
God using him in a powerful way to minister to
people who are struggling in this area. Jennifer Bowers has
her PhD in clinical social work, and the two of
them wrote a fabulous book called Embracing God's Design. Go back.
It was Wednesday of this week. Just find it at
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the podcast. I want you to hear that because it's
so tremendously important and from a biblical world viewpoint. So
you've got all of the science out there, the psychology,
the all of the graphs, the charts, all of the information.
And then you have Walt's powerful testimony. And between the
two of them, it is a remarkable wake up call
for us to be able to know how to speak
compassionately into this issue. But in the meantime, there's some
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crazy stuff still going on around there. So now you've
got a rep from New Hampshire who, uh, made a
rather stunning statement. I will withhold my editorial opinions other
than to say it was stunning. Uh, she was claiming
that a bill, HB House Bill 148, is a bill
to keep biological men out of the women's locker room
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and sporting events is cut from the same cloth as
Jim Crow laws. You cannot make this stuff up. I
take you to the floor of New Hampshire's legislature. Have
a listen.
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As we weigh the merits and morality of this legislation,
I ask you to join me in looking backward so
that we might see more clearly the path ahead. In 1896,
the United States Supreme Court delivered one of the most
devastating rulings in our nation's history, Plessy v Ferguson, which
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we heard a little bit about in upholding the The
constitutionality of segregated train cars. The court reasoned that separating
black and white passengers by law did not imply inequality,
so long as the facilities were equal. That phrase, separate
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but equal, became the legal fiction that upheld decades of
state sanctioned discrimination. We now recognize Plessy for what it
was a moral and constitutional failure. We understand that separation,
when imposed by law, is itself a declaration of inferiority.
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We understand that when the state decides who can belong
where based on identity, not conduct, it does more than
divide space, it divides dignity. And we understand that laws
passed in the name of privacy or public order can
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be and have been used to marginalize the vulnerable. 148
is not about train cars, but it is cut from
the same cloth. It tells transgender Granite Staters, You may
live among us, but in certain spaces you must step aside.
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You must use different facilities. You may not compete with
your peers. You will be treated according to what the
state says. You are not who you know yourself to be.
Supporters may argue that this bill does not discriminate, it
merely classifies. But that was Plessy's very argument. The court
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in 1896 said segregation did not stamp black Americans with
a badge of inferiority unless they interpreted it that way.
And we all know how wrong that reasoning was. And
it behooves us to remember that today.
S1 (14:05):
This is why critical thinking is so essential. Lots of words,
very little meaning, and absolutely a confused interpretation of the law.
And I have to tell you from my black brothers
and sisters, it is an absolute insult to compare an
immutable characteristic, like skin color with the changing aspect of
how you identify as whether you're a boy or a girl.
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Did I just mention wall tire detransitioning means somebody change?
Anybody ever try to change their skin color? That's why
there's a special division for that. A special protection for
an immutable characteristic. These soft Marxists want you to think
that somehow transgenderism is an immutable characteristic that you can't change.
I was born that way. Well, you can sing that
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song all you want to. On stage, it does not
constitute the truth. And for her to pull up this,
to say that somehow, if you don't support the idea
that trans athletes should be able to compete and against
their peers, well, you don't know the law, number one.
And number two, it's an insult to our black brothers
and sisters. And number three, it's race baiting, which I
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really cannot countenance at all. She talked about being able
to compete against your peers. Absolutely right. It's the only
thing she said. Boys against boys, your peers, girls against girls,
your peers. So this is the horrific stretching and pulling
and trying to say that somehow how you orientate your thinking. Craig,
I'm going to give you a fair warning now as
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we step into Memorial Day weekend, I now identify as
Queen Elizabeth. I expect my meals to be brought to me.
I expect you to shower me with joy.
S5 (15:40):
I've got bad news for you because I'm identifying as
Henry the Eighth. Well, Janet, you know Plessy versus Ferguson, uh,
a case, uh, going, uh, back, I think it was
in 1896. Supreme court got it wrong about separate but equal,
but was reversed in Brown versus Board of Education in
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the 1950s. But to make that comparison, uh, if the
legislator were here, I'd do what what the law professor
did in a movie called The Paper Chase, where a
law student gave a really dumb answer to a question
from the law professor. A law professor said, uh, Mr. So-and-so,
come up, please, to the front of the room. And
he came up to the front of the room, and
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the professor dug into his suit coat, pulled out a quarter, said,
here's a quarter. I want you to put it in the, uh,
the the payphone outside and called your mother and tell
her there's grave doubt that you're ever going to be
a lawyer. I got a quarter for that legislator because, uh,
Plessy dealt with the objective, immutable trait of race and
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how you identify as a trans is a subjective and
I would argue, delusional subjective metric for how you think
in your head, as opposed to an objective metric like
race for which the 14th amendment was passed in the
first place.
S1 (17:03):
Yeah, exactly. And to take what is probably coming out
of trauma, brokenness, mental illness and compare it to skin color,
like I said, it is a profound insult. We got more.
This is in the market with Janet Parshall. Craig partial
is with me. We'll continue right after this. When I
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was talking with Jennifer and Walt earlier this week on
their new book, Embracing God's Design, you know, we really
had to stop and realize that this is the tip
of the spear. And it's going particularly after the church
because the church believes that God made men and women. Period.
And if there's any assigning at birth, it was by
the creator himself. Even mom and Dad don't assign the
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birth by the way God does. So this is, at
its core, very much of a spiritual issue. It is
also a form of rebellion. It is a companion to trauma.
It is a companion to undiagnosed mental illnesses. A third
of the autistic community falls into this category. Social contagion.
When you've got a school where there's an uptick of 4,000%
of people, that's an anomaly. Statistically, 4,000% uptick of people
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who say, I'm in the wrong body. Well, I took
you to New Hampshire, and I'm going to take you
to Illinois. Naperville, where they had a school board hearing. Right.
This is happening all over the country. And I want
you to hear the Bible says, out of the overflow
of the heart, the mouth speaks. Basically, this is one
pro trans person's perspective on how the girls who are
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being robbed of their athletic experience should handle this. Have
a listen.
S7 (18:42):
I'm a parent of two district 203 students, one at
Lincoln and one at central. Today I speak to you
in support of transgendered students and transgendered student athletes. I
am proud to live in a state that protects a
student's right to participate in sports that align with their
gender identity. I thank you for supporting and following this law.
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Other parties will tell you that they believe this is
a disservice to our cisgendered students, and especially our female athletes.
As the parent of two students in the district and
as a woman, I reject the notion that allowing transgendered
athletes to participate in sports is detrimental to our students.
Losing a race is disappointing. It is okay for our
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students to experience disappointment. We cannot protect our children from
all the disappointments in life, but we can encourage them
to develop resilience. This growth mindset will benefit them in
innumerable Numerous situations.
S1 (19:47):
Okay, so if she's all for disappointment, then you tell
the man who wants to race against the girl in
the relay race that he's going to be really disappointed.
But as a boy, he can't run against a girl
because his bone density is different. His lung capacity is different,
his heart is different. The way he takes in oxygen
is different. The size of his muscles is different. So
sorry kid, you're going to be disappointed. No, it all
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depends on whose ox is being gored. So this pro-trans
mom thinks it's a great idea. Because girls, when you lose,
you're just going to have to develop resilience.
S5 (20:17):
And boy, this.
S1 (20:18):
From the world, by the way, where everybody gets a
trophy when they play the game.
S5 (20:21):
Trans boys, you're going to be disappointed that you really
can't compete against other boys and end up last and
not get a trophy. The world has disappointments and that's
just the way it is. But we're not going to
change our laws. We're not going to change our social policies,
nor are we going to be joining the great delusion
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of the century and say you really are a different
gender or sex than you really are. Yeah, we're not
going to play that delusional game.
S1 (20:50):
And so I'm going to challenge that even more. Okay.
So let's say you want to send your girl to
a school where they might get some scholarship money for
scores for sports. This mother says she wants girls to
adopt a growth mindset and accept their losses to boys.
It isn't just the race, it's potential scholarship money. So
if they want to go to the University of Illinois
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and they wanted to play girls softball, but the guy
who thought that he was really a girl is a
faster pitcher, and he gets the scholarship money and she
doesn't get picked up on a scholarship. Well, where's the
growth mindset there? Okay. No. In my house we call
it cheating. And for people to think that it's perfectly
all right when male and female athletes are different. We've
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talked about girls that have suffered that brain injury, broken arms, um,
physically being impaired as a result of this girl's the
the the hero in the fencing world now who took
a knee and said, I'm not going to. She said,
I have nothing against this fella, but I'm sorry. I'm
a girl fencer and I'm going to fence girls. I'm
not going to fence boys. And she's taken notoriety for
her courage. These are the days that require courage writ large,
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but courage, particularly for Christians to say, I am not
ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ. I'm never going
to lie to somebody and use a pronoun that furthers
their delusion that they're something that they're not. Remember, self
is the first word in identify self identify. And when
I talk to Walt and Jennifer earlier this week, what
about the woman who gouged out her own eyes? True story.
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Because she felt that she identified as a black person,
or the man who went to an orthopedic doctor and said,
I identify as a person in a wheelchair. I want
you to sever the nerves in my spinal column. These
are not made up cases. This is mental illness. And
what we're doing is somehow we've drawn a ring around
this part of trauma and wounding and mental illness. Unidentified diagnoses.
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Thank goodness. We have a new report out from Health
and Human Services following on the heels of the Cass
report coming out of the UK. That said no. Number one,
you do not mitigate suicidal ideations by saying, do you
want a dead son or a live daughter? In fact,
the evidence now says there's an uptick in suicidal ideations
after the fact. Common sense says no surprise there because
you change something in the outside. But what was broken
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was on the inside. Guess what? Didn't fix my problems.
Maybe there was a temporary high, but it wears off
real quick when you suddenly realize it didn't fix all
of my problems. So you've lied to us about the
suicidal ideation. And the other thing too is where's your compassion?
Where's the best health care standard? Undiagnosed abuse, bipolar, psycho
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delusional disorder, autism, a cluster of things that are out there.
It is almost always, at some point, some mental health
issue that's at the core. And then you have people
like this that you just heard are saying, let's facilitate
rather than with compassion treat.
S5 (23:36):
Yeah, let's let somebody who has a sickness feel good
about their disease and give them a placebo rather than
a real remedy. That's certainly a problem. But in competition,
sports is one of the last bastions where the American
public is still saying, we understand fairness in competition, and
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we see and we feel this is totally unfair.
S1 (24:01):
To your point, a poll that is less than a
month old from NBC news, 75% of Americans say girls
shouldn't have to be competing against boys. People like you
just heard, whether it's the representative in New Hampshire or
the mom in Naperville. Sorry, you're out of the mainstream.
You're swimming cross current with the culture on this one.
We're going to take a break. Be right back. Jesus
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told us to go into the world and not run
away from it. And he didn't say it would be easy.
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Janet Parshall. So one of the things Craig and I
like to do on Friday, in our pursuit to be
good Bereans where we test all things, is we stop
and we start listening with the ears on our hearts
to what's being bought and sold in the marketplace of ideas.
And very often what we will hear is the sound
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of wolves and why, in fact, that's the sound we
want you to recognize. And I didn't use that word.
Jesus did. Matthew 715 they come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ferocious. Another translation says ravenous wolves.
The Bible reminds us that in the latter days there
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will be those who put on sheep's clothing and masquerade
as though they're shepherds, and what they're delivering is a
deadly doctrine. It is not sound doctrine. It is not
the straight stick of truth. As Dwight L Moody calls
the Word of God. And the only way you and
I are going to recognize the howling of the wolves
is by being totally immersed in God's Word. And sometimes
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the best way for us to do that is to
compare what the Word of God says to what some
of these wolves are saying. And I wish I could
tell you it's hard to find this audio, but it's not.
It's everywhere out there. So I'm not going to tell
you the denomination. This is my disclaimer because I don't
want us to be. You know, sometimes we think that's
our home team and we get so rooted in denominationalism.
We're not listening to the transcendent truth of biblical scripture.
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So I'm not going to name the denomination, although I could.
I'm not going to identify the church, although I could.
What I want you to do is listen with the
ears on your heart. Again, here's the watchword. Out of
the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks. Now, I'd
like to believe that's just people who are so overflowing
with God's love, mercy, grace and truth that you just
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can't keep it to yourself. But sometimes what spills out
of the mouth is reflective of what's really in the heart.
So without further ado, have a listen to this.
S8 (26:52):
So in Matthew 25, when he's gathered with all of
these political and religious leaders from the nations Jesus raises,
then what matters most to him? What matters most to God?
Now I have a spoiler alert the issues that Jesus
holds dear. They're not about gun rights. They're not waving flags,
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determining who gets to marry who. They're not about politicians
picking their voters rather than voters electing their leaders. They're
not about controlling women's bodies or people who can get pregnant.
They're not about banning books or looking away from violence
and genocide, or harassing and threatening LGBTQIA issues. No, the
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Bible is pretty clear. Those issues are the work, the
law of empire. And Jesus is clear about that, even
if some who claim to follow him aren't. Rather, Jesus's
main concerns are food, sustenance, immigrant rights, health care and
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adequate standard of living, decent housing, prison abolition, all of
those issues that we heard in that opening video. And
Jesus's priority are the people who are most impacted by
the lack of food or housing or all forms of marginalization, invisibility,
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and discrimination.
S1 (28:23):
So I'm going to take a little survey here. Everybody
who thinks they have a pretty good idea of where
she's coming from politically, please raise your hand. Oh, my
hair just parted. Yeah, I got gun rights. I got
gay marriage, controlling women's bodies. The list goes on, and
then comes up with her own list of what, quote,
Jesus cares about food, immigrants rights, health care, decent housing,
prison abolition. G. Craig. Um, maybe it's just me, but, um,
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weren't a whole lot of letters written by Paul written
from a prison? I don't remember Brother Paul talking about
abolishing the prison. Rather, I did hear Brother Paul say,
I've learned in whatsoever state I'm in to be content.
As he penned that in a prison. So what you
saw was an interesting pivot of her pulling out political agreements.
Issues that she doesn't agree with obviously has a clear position,
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but doesn't agree with what other people have on that,
and plugged in the issues that are important to her,
and then dressed it all up and said, this is
what Jesus cares about. Counselor. Your thoughts?
S5 (29:21):
Uh, she referred to, uh, Matthew 25. If she goes
back one chapter to Matthew 24, we see some of
the signs of the latter days, including false teachers.
S1 (29:33):
Exactly.
S5 (29:33):
Well, you know, if we look at this biblically and
we're supposed to we're supposed to have a grasp of
Scripture from Genesis all the way to revelation, sufficient to
be able to put things in context and know what
God's intent for us is based on his revealed word.
And the way to do it is to read it
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in context and read it all, not just read little
parts and then invent how you interpret them. So, for instance,
the comment about, you know, Jesus doesn't care about who
you marry. Well, then why in Matthew 19 did he,
when asked by the Pharisees and Sadducees about divorce, why
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did he go back to Genesis? Have you not read?
He said that God created the man and woman number one. Well,
that was the first marriage. God joined man and woman,
and then he goes on in detail. And that is
to say, Jesus in chapter 19 to talk about man
and woman becoming one flesh and being blessed by God
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in that union. He says, so they are no longer
two but one flesh man woman in a marriage state,
married by God Himself, one flesh. What therefore God has
joined together, man and woman in marriage don't separate through
your man made rules. In other words, it's because of
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hardness of heart that, uh, Moses allowed, by the way,
he goes on to say, a bill of divorce. So, God,
Jesus number one, authenticated the truth of God's Word. And
what happened in the garden in Genesis, man and woman.
And then he reiterates it, the fact that it's man
and woman who are to be married. And that is
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what God blesses and asks that they be one flesh together.
Never is it said anywhere else in Scripture that Jesus said,
But it doesn't matter who you marry. I mean, yeah,
God joined man and woman, but it could be man
and man or man and man and woman and woman
and a whole bunch of people married together. It really
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doesn't matter. That is a horrendous ignorance or deception, and
I would hope it'd be ignorance rather than intentional deception. Uh,
but God or Jesus also talks about Sodom and Gomorrah
in Matthew ten as a an actual event. He corroborates
that truth in Matthew ten verse 15. So this is
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so clear when you go to the actual words of
Scripture and you honor it as God's Word, how you
hold that up and you see the either deception or
ignorance from what is being preached in some of these
radical churches.
S1 (32:25):
Yeah, and not only that, but this synchronistic politics and
religion blended together and, um, you know, and I think
you can probably find fault on both sides of the
political aisle with that. That's why my adherence is to
a king, not to a political party.
S5 (32:42):
And it's not a political it's a spiritual issue.
S1 (32:44):
100%.
S5 (32:45):
But it's also an integrity issue. Yes. Have you really
read this book? If you haven't, how dare you say
put on the cloth and stand at a pulpit and say,
I'm a I'm a Christian leader who's going to talk
to you about Jesus?
S1 (32:57):
There she is, standing at the pulpit in her religious
garb and telling the people who are listening and getting
cheered and affirming it, because I'm going to guess that
their political worldview matched hers. But she amalgamated what Scripture says,
what she thinks it says, and then misrepresented what it
said to advance a particular political position. Now that's wrong,
whoever does it. So health care. I thought that one
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was interesting because let's see, Jesus talks about lepers. Jesus talks.
S5 (33:25):
He healed.
S1 (33:25):
A lot. Yeah, he did blindness and lameness and even
brought people back from the dead. Um, Um, so I'm
not quite sure where health care fits into there. Not
only that, but there were people that he did heal
and people he didn't heal.
S5 (33:39):
In fact, in one incident, a paralytic was raised by
him to his feet and healed. And Jesus said, your
sins are forgiven. He said. Now which is easier that
I say, your sins are forgiven or or rise and walk?
But he said, so that you can see that I
am who I am. That is to say, the Christ,
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the Messiah. I'm going to heal him for the greater purpose,
although it's good in itself for the greater purpose of
showing my divinity. These these truths are so self-evident. If
you go to the word with an open heart and
an open mind, and you are willing to read it
in context.
S1 (34:19):
And not only that, but Craig, I was particularly struck
with the richness of God's Word compared to the vacuousness
that you just heard. I mean, there's nothing compelling, there's
nothing fulfilling about what that particular person said, but.
S5 (34:31):
It'll get the applause of people who come in with
a political mindset or a sociological viewpoint, but aren't or
aren't open to the Holy Spirit working in their heart
through the word. The word will bring us to judgment
and conviction for the purpose of bringing us to the cross.
S1 (34:49):
Well, and she also talked about going into Matthew 24.
There's some really powerful stuff in there. There's the parable
of the ten virgins. It's the parable of the talents.
It's the separating. This one, the sheep and the goats. Hello.
As she's up there.
S9 (35:02):
There are real followers.
S5 (35:03):
And there are.
S9 (35:03):
False followers.
S1 (35:04):
Exactly as she's up there doing this. Um, anything but
biblical representation of the word. So the takeaway for this,
and one of the reasons why we continue to do this,
is a we want you to get that intellectual brain
going to be thinking, okay, critically and biblically. Remember, when
you come to faith in Christ, not only is your
heart transformed, but your mind is renewed. It's like going
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from a black and white movie into color and everything
starts to make more sense. There's order and form and
purpose in God's world, and the Bible just affirms and
affirms and affirms so many truths that are out there
in the world, as it says in Romans, that we
are without excuse. So you hear this, and I'm thinking
to myself, it's like serving up cotton candy compared to
the meat of the Word of God. She lowered the meaning,
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the application, the understanding of the word so she could
plug in cheap goods, in this case a particular political position,
and took away the richness, the bounty that can be
found in God's Word. Listen, friend, the only way you're
going to be able to do this is if you
stay immersed in His Word. Otherwise, what you just heard
were vain and hollow philosophies predicated on this world rather
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than on the Word of God. Study to show yourself approved.
Get into the word every single day. Not because you
have to, but because you want to. Read what he
wrote for you and me back after this. So, time
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magazine this week came out. You have to laugh at
this stuff when you're grounded in the word. You realize
how supercilious so much of this stuff is, and it
really does make you laugh, by the way. So the
article was entitled Why You Might Want a Relationship Agreement
even If You're monogamous. The author is a certified clinical
sexologist and sex and dating coach, educator and speaker. I'm
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going to read just a little bit of this, so
you get the drift. Monogamy literally means one marriage in Greek.
The author writes and implies mating for life, one love,
one sexual partner forever. Yet most people think of it
as committing to one person at a time. Did you
know that? I didn't know that. That's what the author says.
But after all, she is a sexologist. You can have
many loves and many sexual partners over the course of
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a lifetime. Oh, really? As long as you are faithful
to each person along the way. Otherwise known as serial monogamy. No,
that's probably called adultery. Or there's a myriad of things.
I don't think that it's called faithful monogamy, but I digress.
Along with this focused attention on just one person comes
the assumption that both parties understand that it's that it's
what is outside the bounds of monogamy. But just as
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monogamy definitions have changed, actually no one man, one woman
till death do you part. That's pretty clear definition and
means different things to different people. No, the same is
true for infidelity, writes the sexologist. Monogamous couples shouldn't just
assume that their partner thinks exactly like them when it
comes to cheating. That's why they might want to step
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into something called an ethically non-monogamous relationship. These agreements, which
spell out what is and isn't permitted within a couple's
version of monogamy, can actually help shape their definition of
monogamy while also building trust and safety. I can't with
a straight face read the rest of it. So the
sexologist is basically boohooing. This is the same thing where
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The Atlantic magazine came out not too long ago, talking
about the death of the nuclear family. Um, they do say,
according to the sexologist, and I would want to cross-reference
her several times. She says 55% of Americans prefer total monogamy.
Yet infidelity is common, and it has become even more
confusing in our digital world. So you've got what God
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says about a marriage, right? Any kind of any kind
of sexual expression outside the bonds of marriage, according to
the king. Sin, premarital sex, extramarital sex, homosexual sex, um,
all of that. Unless it's a husband and a wife
defined by God as a marriage. Then the Bible says, yippee!
Marriage bed is undefiled. Yippee! Rejoice in the bride of
your youth. All those yippee! Song of songs I digress, um,
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but apparently time magazine says if you want to be
happy for the rest of your life, all you have
to do is sign one of these agreements so that
when you in part of your serial monogamy, you're faithful
for that period with that person.
S5 (39:11):
That day.
S1 (39:12):
That day, that hour I gave you a.
S9 (39:14):
Woman. Pass it down. I give you a woman.
S1 (39:15):
By a well in Samaria. But hey, I digress then.
These are the rules that you should have when you're
in that. What fancy blather? Well, give me your thoughts.
S5 (39:24):
Beware. Beware of sexologists bearing confusion. Anybody who needs to
confuse you first to win you over has probably got
something up their sleeve. And what they've got up their sleeve.
This particular sexologist is taking the word monogamy, which by
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every dictionary and by the way, I bought when I
first saw this and posted it on X about it,
I had to look at the dictionary because maybe they've
changed the. And that's her hook. But no, the word
still means uh, one mate, uh, loyal to each other, uh,
basically for life. But, um, the the diverse experiences, that's
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the part I liked is that monogamy is a diverse experience,
and it can be molded to fit whatever works for
each couple.
S1 (40:17):
Didn't we hear that in the 60s?
S5 (40:19):
Yeah, whatever. You know, turns you on. Uh, that that
was kind of the mindset and didn't work out too,
too good. Um, but here's the here's the fact. The
fact is that language is very powerful. God created language.
And then when man tried to use it, language that
is a common language to build an empire against God.
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God said, nope. I'm going to split you up into
various languages. That's how powerful language is. But those who
want to twist language always have something up their sleeve.
If they twist language, it's so that they can fool
you into believing that something is logical, when in fact
it's illogical. So calling something that's monogamy, something that's diverse
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and can be adultery and can be multiple, multiple couples
at the same time. This is not only illogical, it's deceptive.
S1 (41:12):
Well, and it's immoral. Okay, so this woman is saying
that this sexologist who wrote this piece is basically saying
monogamy is anything you want it to be. Just have
a good old conversation ahead of time so you understand
what each other's Others expectations are, and then you're going
to be happy in this temporal, monogamous relationship.
S5 (41:31):
And now I would say to the sexologist, look, you know,
put down the confusion of language and the twisting of
language about monogamy. Why don't you just say, let's have
an adulterous compact? Okay, well, now, that wouldn't fly. Why? Well,
we all know why. Because every God has placed eternity
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in the hearts of all of us. We have a
moral conscience, a compass called a conscience that knows that
certain things are not right and certain things are certain.
Relationships are not good. Certain relationships are good. And we
have in our hearts built in there this little compass,
regardless of whether we read the Bible or not or
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believe in it, that says, yeah, if I if I
marry my wife and I say, you know, to death
do you part? And we're going to be loyal and
support each other. And then I'm going to sneak out
and have an affair. That's not right.
S9 (42:30):
But if we don't.
S5 (42:31):
Call it so, we're not going to call it an
adulterous club or an adulterous compact.
S9 (42:34):
Right?
S1 (42:35):
But if I told you, according to this sexologist, if
I told you ahead of time that that's part of
how I defined this monogamous. Right.
S9 (42:42):
Then don't use the word then.
S1 (42:43):
Don't get upset with me because I told you ahead
of time that I was going to go out and have.
S9 (42:46):
Let's not lie with language. Let's use language.
S5 (42:50):
Lies and use a word that makes us feel comfortable.
Monogamy means something. Language is to mean something. And when
it is twisted and doesn't mean what it means, somebody's
got a plan to trick you.
S1 (43:04):
But you know what verse kept coming to my mind
by the sexologist? There's a way that seems right on
to man. And the end therein is death. Nobody's happy.
S9 (43:12):
It's a serpentine.
S5 (43:13):
Attitude of kind of skirting language and skirting truth, to
try to make you feel better about what you ought
to feel.
S1 (43:20):
As bad as you construct the rules before you step
into this relationship, it's all going to be okay. I
don't think so. We've done so many programs about broken
hearts when it comes to infidelity and adultery. By the way.
On that note, how interesting we're having this conversation because
yesterday was Craig's and my wedding anniversary. Yes, sir. We
have been radically monogamous for 54 years. And if you're
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doing the math, I was a child bride, married at six.
So there you go. Now you can figure out how
old we are. Your thoughts?
S5 (43:50):
I was five at the time.
S1 (43:54):
Thank you, sir, for giving me your last name because
it stuck around.
S5 (43:57):
It was my blessing and my privilege.
S1 (44:00):
Thank you sir. I appreciate it. Who'd have known that
the Lord would call us to do this kind of
work together? I just so appreciate it. All right, you
all have a great weekend. Enjoy Memorial Day weekend. Find
some time to rest. Be quiet. Just let the Lord
talk to you. Look around at his world and just
start breaking out into a chorus of this is my
father's world. He is on the throne and he loves you.
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Happy Friday to you. Happy beginning of summer weekend. And
we remember those who have fallen, who poured out that
last full measure of devotion on this Memorial Day weekend.
And we thank the Lord for those who chose to
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I think just our proximity to Arlington Cemetery to see
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with Janet Parshall. Oh, Craig Parshall is with me, as
he always is. What we do on Fridays is we
take a look at the news around us, and then
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we look at it from a biblical perspective. And let
me tell you, no shortage of things to talk about.
We talked recently about this horrific bill that got signed
into law in Colorado. What a crazy bit of legislation,
the Kelly loving act, where you're just going to start
going after people if they dead name, which is a
made up word that means if Tommy wants to be
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called Susie and you call him Tommy instead of Susie,
you've used his dead name. You have to make up language, right,
to foment these bizarre ideas. Or misgendering a boy who
wants to be a girl. If you use he instead
of she, you've misgendered. And according to the great state
of Colorado, who apparently can't get enough pieces of cake
from Jack Phillips masterpiece Cake Shop, they just keep going
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after people who have a sincerely held religious viewpoint. And now,
because of this law being signed, now you got a
Christian camp in Colorado, the Christian camp that just might
be shut down according to Colorado's new transgender law. and
that's got a lot of people very, very concerned. This
Christian summer camp is in the foothills. They're expected to
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be shut down by state regulators in the coming months,
unless a federal judge decides that it can legally separate
campers by sex rather than by gender identity. Hey, when
I was a kid and I went to Crescent Lake
Bible Camp, the idea of boys and girls being the
same dorm. Ooh, ooh. They would have still changed my
camp experience. But now, because of this bizarro thinking that's
coming out of the state of Colorado, you got to
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put them all in the same place. You can't have
a distinction here for gender. And so the Christian camp's going, uh, no.
The name of the camp I can't even pronounce. But
it translates into I'd rather have Jesus. Oh, that lovely
hymn I just love that goes back to 1948. It
operates week long summer programs for kids ages 6 to
17 on 262 acres. I loved my church camp experience.
(07:44):
Those were some of the highlights of my life. And now.
And if you think this is only going to happen
to a church camp in Colorado. Oh, awake o sleeper,
this is a part of a national movement to trample
underfoot what God said. Because after all, said the serpent,
rattling his tails, did God really say that? So give
me your take on this one, Craig, I hope. I'm
sorry that so often this has to be the answer,
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but I hope they lawyer up. I hope they really do.
S5 (08:08):
Yeah, there are a lot of great legal groups out
there that I think are, uh, meeting with clients and, uh,
talking about challenging this law, and I hope they do, uh,
this is part of the system and the blessing of
having a constitutional republic like we do. As a matter
of fact, you look around the globe, you just take
that globe and you spin it, and you look at
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countries around the world. We are very blessed. Uh, if
we can keep that republic, as Ben Franklin noted, uh,
and not lose it to sloppy judicial thinking right now,
we still have it. We still have freedom of religion.
We still have religious organizations protected under the First Amendment. And, uh,
I think it's appropriate that the camp and others, are
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equally aligned in religious ministry in Colorado. Think about filing
a lawsuit to challenge this. That's the legal way to
do it. It's the civic duty, I think, to protect
their ministry from overreaching legislation like this.
S1 (09:06):
Yeah. Unbelievable. Again, just trampling underfoot like the First Amendment, apparently,
to some of these change agents just has no meaning whatsoever.
So your sincerely held religious beliefs. Well, I got a
newsflash for you, for people, particularly in education, who apparently
skip their civics class, uh, it was so precious and
so important. It's called the First Amendment for a reason,
and it does protect our religious liberties. It's a hard
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Janet Parshall. By the way, we had a great conversation
earlier this week with Doctor Jennifer Bones and Walt Heyer.
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Walt was a man who lived as a woman for
eight years, found Jesus Christ detransitioned back, and boy, has
God using him in a powerful way to minister to
people who are struggling in this area. Jennifer Bowers has
her PhD in clinical social work, and the two of
them wrote a fabulous book called Embracing God's Design. Go back.
It was Wednesday of this week. Just find it at
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the podcast. I want you to hear that because it's
so tremendously important and from a biblical world viewpoint. So
you've got all of the science out there, the psychology,
the all of the graphs, the charts, all of the information.
And then you have Walt's powerful testimony. And between the
two of them, it is a remarkable wake up call
for us to be able to know how to speak
compassionately into this issue. But in the meantime, there's some
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crazy stuff still going on around there. So now you've
got a rep from New Hampshire who, uh, made a
rather stunning statement. I will withhold my editorial opinions other
than to say it was stunning. Uh, she was claiming
that a bill, HB House Bill 148, is a bill
to keep biological men out of the women's locker room
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and sporting events is cut from the same cloth as
Jim Crow laws. You cannot make this stuff up. I
take you to the floor of New Hampshire's legislature. Have
a listen.
S6 (11:24):
As we weigh the merits and morality of this legislation,
I ask you to join me in looking backward so
that we might see more clearly the path ahead. In 1896,
the United States Supreme Court delivered one of the most
devastating rulings in our nation's history, Plessy v Ferguson, which
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we heard a little bit about in upholding the The
constitutionality of segregated train cars. The court reasoned that separating
black and white passengers by law did not imply inequality,
so long as the facilities were equal. That phrase, separate
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but equal, became the legal fiction that upheld decades of
state sanctioned discrimination. We now recognize Plessy for what it
was a moral and constitutional failure. We understand that separation,
when imposed by law, is itself a declaration of inferiority.
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We understand that when the state decides who can belong
where based on identity, not conduct, it does more than
divide space, it divides dignity. And we understand that laws
passed in the name of privacy or public order can
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be and have been used to marginalize the vulnerable. 148
is not about train cars, but it is cut from
the same cloth. It tells transgender Granite Staters, You may
live among us, but in certain spaces you must step aside.
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You must use different facilities. You may not compete with
your peers. You will be treated according to what the
state says. You are not who you know yourself to be.
Supporters may argue that this bill does not discriminate, it
merely classifies. But that was Plessy's very argument. The court
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in 1896 said segregation did not stamp black Americans with
a badge of inferiority unless they interpreted it that way.
And we all know how wrong that reasoning was. And
it behooves us to remember that today.
S1 (14:05):
This is why critical thinking is so essential. Lots of words,
very little meaning, and absolutely a confused interpretation of the law.
And I have to tell you from my black brothers
and sisters, it is an absolute insult to compare an
immutable characteristic, like skin color with the changing aspect of
how you identify as whether you're a boy or a girl.
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Did I just mention wall tire detransitioning means somebody change?
Anybody ever try to change their skin color? That's why
there's a special division for that. A special protection for
an immutable characteristic. These soft Marxists want you to think
that somehow transgenderism is an immutable characteristic that you can't change.
I was born that way. Well, you can sing that
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song all you want to. On stage, it does not
constitute the truth. And for her to pull up this,
to say that somehow, if you don't support the idea
that trans athletes should be able to compete and against
their peers, well, you don't know the law, number one.
And number two, it's an insult to our black brothers
and sisters. And number three, it's race baiting, which I
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really cannot countenance at all. She talked about being able
to compete against your peers. Absolutely right. It's the only
thing she said. Boys against boys, your peers, girls against girls,
your peers. So this is the horrific stretching and pulling
and trying to say that somehow how you orientate your thinking. Craig,
I'm going to give you a fair warning now as
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we step into Memorial Day weekend, I now identify as
Queen Elizabeth. I expect my meals to be brought to me.
I expect you to shower me with joy.
S5 (15:40):
I've got bad news for you because I'm identifying as
Henry the Eighth. Well, Janet, you know Plessy versus Ferguson, uh,
a case, uh, going, uh, back, I think it was
in 1896. Supreme court got it wrong about separate but equal,
but was reversed in Brown versus Board of Education in
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the 1950s. But to make that comparison, uh, if the
legislator were here, I'd do what what the law professor
did in a movie called The Paper Chase, where a
law student gave a really dumb answer to a question
from the law professor. A law professor said, uh, Mr. So-and-so,
come up, please, to the front of the room. And
he came up to the front of the room, and
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the professor dug into his suit coat, pulled out a quarter, said,
here's a quarter. I want you to put it in the, uh,
the the payphone outside and called your mother and tell
her there's grave doubt that you're ever going to be
a lawyer. I got a quarter for that legislator because, uh,
Plessy dealt with the objective, immutable trait of race and
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how you identify as a trans is a subjective and
I would argue, delusional subjective metric for how you think
in your head, as opposed to an objective metric like
race for which the 14th amendment was passed in the
first place.
S1 (17:03):
Yeah, exactly. And to take what is probably coming out
of trauma, brokenness, mental illness and compare it to skin color,
like I said, it is a profound insult. We got more.
This is in the market with Janet Parshall. Craig partial
is with me. We'll continue right after this. When I
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was talking with Jennifer and Walt earlier this week on
their new book, Embracing God's Design, you know, we really
had to stop and realize that this is the tip
of the spear. And it's going particularly after the church
because the church believes that God made men and women. Period.
And if there's any assigning at birth, it was by
the creator himself. Even mom and Dad don't assign the
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birth by the way God does. So this is, at
its core, very much of a spiritual issue. It is
also a form of rebellion. It is a companion to trauma.
It is a companion to undiagnosed mental illnesses. A third
of the autistic community falls into this category. Social contagion.
When you've got a school where there's an uptick of 4,000%
of people, that's an anomaly. Statistically, 4,000% uptick of people
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who say, I'm in the wrong body. Well, I took
you to New Hampshire, and I'm going to take you
to Illinois. Naperville, where they had a school board hearing. Right.
This is happening all over the country. And I want
you to hear the Bible says, out of the overflow
of the heart, the mouth speaks. Basically, this is one
pro trans person's perspective on how the girls who are
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being robbed of their athletic experience should handle this. Have
a listen.
S7 (18:42):
I'm a parent of two district 203 students, one at
Lincoln and one at central. Today I speak to you
in support of transgendered students and transgendered student athletes. I
am proud to live in a state that protects a
student's right to participate in sports that align with their
gender identity. I thank you for supporting and following this law.
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Other parties will tell you that they believe this is
a disservice to our cisgendered students, and especially our female athletes.
As the parent of two students in the district and
as a woman, I reject the notion that allowing transgendered
athletes to participate in sports is detrimental to our students.
Losing a race is disappointing. It is okay for our
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students to experience disappointment. We cannot protect our children from
all the disappointments in life, but we can encourage them
to develop resilience. This growth mindset will benefit them in
innumerable Numerous situations.
S1 (19:47):
Okay, so if she's all for disappointment, then you tell
the man who wants to race against the girl in
the relay race that he's going to be really disappointed.
But as a boy, he can't run against a girl
because his bone density is different. His lung capacity is different,
his heart is different. The way he takes in oxygen
is different. The size of his muscles is different. So
sorry kid, you're going to be disappointed. No, it all
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depends on whose ox is being gored. So this pro-trans
mom thinks it's a great idea. Because girls, when you lose,
you're just going to have to develop resilience.
S5 (20:17):
And boy, this.
S1 (20:18):
From the world, by the way, where everybody gets a
trophy when they play the game.
S5 (20:21):
Trans boys, you're going to be disappointed that you really
can't compete against other boys and end up last and
not get a trophy. The world has disappointments and that's
just the way it is. But we're not going to
change our laws. We're not going to change our social policies,
nor are we going to be joining the great delusion
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of the century and say you really are a different
gender or sex than you really are. Yeah, we're not
going to play that delusional game.
S1 (20:50):
And so I'm going to challenge that even more. Okay.
So let's say you want to send your girl to
a school where they might get some scholarship money for
scores for sports. This mother says she wants girls to
adopt a growth mindset and accept their losses to boys.
It isn't just the race, it's potential scholarship money. So
if they want to go to the University of Illinois
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and they wanted to play girls softball, but the guy
who thought that he was really a girl is a
faster pitcher, and he gets the scholarship money and she
doesn't get picked up on a scholarship. Well, where's the
growth mindset there? Okay. No. In my house we call
it cheating. And for people to think that it's perfectly
all right when male and female athletes are different. We've
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talked about girls that have suffered that brain injury, broken arms, um,
physically being impaired as a result of this girl's the
the the hero in the fencing world now who took
a knee and said, I'm not going to. She said,
I have nothing against this fella, but I'm sorry. I'm
a girl fencer and I'm going to fence girls. I'm
not going to fence boys. And she's taken notoriety for
her courage. These are the days that require courage writ large,
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but courage, particularly for Christians to say, I am not
ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ. I'm never going
to lie to somebody and use a pronoun that furthers
their delusion that they're something that they're not. Remember, self
is the first word in identify self identify. And when
I talk to Walt and Jennifer earlier this week, what
about the woman who gouged out her own eyes? True story.
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Because she felt that she identified as a black person,
or the man who went to an orthopedic doctor and said,
I identify as a person in a wheelchair. I want
you to sever the nerves in my spinal column. These
are not made up cases. This is mental illness. And
what we're doing is somehow we've drawn a ring around
this part of trauma and wounding and mental illness. Unidentified diagnoses.
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Thank goodness. We have a new report out from Health
and Human Services following on the heels of the Cass
report coming out of the UK. That said no. Number one,
you do not mitigate suicidal ideations by saying, do you
want a dead son or a live daughter? In fact,
the evidence now says there's an uptick in suicidal ideations
after the fact. Common sense says no surprise there because
you change something in the outside. But what was broken
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was on the inside. Guess what? Didn't fix my problems.
Maybe there was a temporary high, but it wears off
real quick when you suddenly realize it didn't fix all
of my problems. So you've lied to us about the
suicidal ideation. And the other thing too is where's your compassion?
Where's the best health care standard? Undiagnosed abuse, bipolar, psycho
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delusional disorder, autism, a cluster of things that are out there.
It is almost always, at some point, some mental health
issue that's at the core. And then you have people
like this that you just heard are saying, let's facilitate
rather than with compassion treat.
S5 (23:36):
Yeah, let's let somebody who has a sickness feel good
about their disease and give them a placebo rather than
a real remedy. That's certainly a problem. But in competition,
sports is one of the last bastions where the American
public is still saying, we understand fairness in competition, and
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we see and we feel this is totally unfair.
S1 (24:01):
To your point, a poll that is less than a
month old from NBC news, 75% of Americans say girls
shouldn't have to be competing against boys. People like you
just heard, whether it's the representative in New Hampshire or
the mom in Naperville. Sorry, you're out of the mainstream.
You're swimming cross current with the culture on this one.
We're going to take a break. Be right back. Jesus
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told us to go into the world and not run
away from it. And he didn't say it would be easy.
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like to do on Friday, in our pursuit to be
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and we start listening with the ears on our hearts
to what's being bought and sold in the marketplace of ideas.
And very often what we will hear is the sound
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of wolves and why, in fact, that's the sound we
want you to recognize. And I didn't use that word.
Jesus did. Matthew 715 they come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ferocious. Another translation says ravenous wolves.
The Bible reminds us that in the latter days there
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will be those who put on sheep's clothing and masquerade
as though they're shepherds, and what they're delivering is a
deadly doctrine. It is not sound doctrine. It is not
the straight stick of truth. As Dwight L Moody calls
the Word of God. And the only way you and
I are going to recognize the howling of the wolves
is by being totally immersed in God's Word. And sometimes
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the best way for us to do that is to
compare what the Word of God says to what some
of these wolves are saying. And I wish I could
tell you it's hard to find this audio, but it's not.
It's everywhere out there. So I'm not going to tell
you the denomination. This is my disclaimer because I don't
want us to be. You know, sometimes we think that's
our home team and we get so rooted in denominationalism.
We're not listening to the transcendent truth of biblical scripture.
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So I'm not going to name the denomination, although I could.
I'm not going to identify the church, although I could.
What I want you to do is listen with the
ears on your heart. Again, here's the watchword. Out of
the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks. Now, I'd
like to believe that's just people who are so overflowing
with God's love, mercy, grace and truth that you just
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can't keep it to yourself. But sometimes what spills out
of the mouth is reflective of what's really in the heart.
So without further ado, have a listen to this.
S8 (26:52):
So in Matthew 25, when he's gathered with all of
these political and religious leaders from the nations Jesus raises,
then what matters most to him? What matters most to God?
Now I have a spoiler alert the issues that Jesus
holds dear. They're not about gun rights. They're not waving flags,
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determining who gets to marry who. They're not about politicians
picking their voters rather than voters electing their leaders. They're
not about controlling women's bodies or people who can get pregnant.
They're not about banning books or looking away from violence
and genocide, or harassing and threatening LGBTQIA issues. No, the
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Bible is pretty clear. Those issues are the work, the
law of empire. And Jesus is clear about that, even
if some who claim to follow him aren't. Rather, Jesus's
main concerns are food, sustenance, immigrant rights, health care and
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adequate standard of living, decent housing, prison abolition, all of
those issues that we heard in that opening video. And
Jesus's priority are the people who are most impacted by
the lack of food or housing or all forms of marginalization, invisibility,
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and discrimination.
S1 (28:23):
So I'm going to take a little survey here. Everybody
who thinks they have a pretty good idea of where
she's coming from politically, please raise your hand. Oh, my
hair just parted. Yeah, I got gun rights. I got
gay marriage, controlling women's bodies. The list goes on, and
then comes up with her own list of what, quote,
Jesus cares about food, immigrants rights, health care, decent housing,
prison abolition. G. Craig. Um, maybe it's just me, but, um,
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weren't a whole lot of letters written by Paul written
from a prison? I don't remember Brother Paul talking about
abolishing the prison. Rather, I did hear Brother Paul say,
I've learned in whatsoever state I'm in to be content.
As he penned that in a prison. So what you
saw was an interesting pivot of her pulling out political agreements.
Issues that she doesn't agree with obviously has a clear position,
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but doesn't agree with what other people have on that,
and plugged in the issues that are important to her,
and then dressed it all up and said, this is
what Jesus cares about. Counselor. Your thoughts?
S5 (29:21):
Uh, she referred to, uh, Matthew 25. If she goes
back one chapter to Matthew 24, we see some of
the signs of the latter days, including false teachers.
S1 (29:33):
Exactly.
S5 (29:33):
Well, you know, if we look at this biblically and
we're supposed to we're supposed to have a grasp of
Scripture from Genesis all the way to revelation, sufficient to
be able to put things in context and know what
God's intent for us is based on his revealed word.
And the way to do it is to read it
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in context and read it all, not just read little
parts and then invent how you interpret them. So, for instance,
the comment about, you know, Jesus doesn't care about who
you marry. Well, then why in Matthew 19 did he,
when asked by the Pharisees and Sadducees about divorce, why
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did he go back to Genesis? Have you not read?
He said that God created the man and woman number one. Well,
that was the first marriage. God joined man and woman,
and then he goes on in detail. And that is
to say, Jesus in chapter 19 to talk about man
and woman becoming one flesh and being blessed by God
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in that union. He says, so they are no longer
two but one flesh man woman in a marriage state,
married by God Himself, one flesh. What therefore God has
joined together, man and woman in marriage don't separate through
your man made rules. In other words, it's because of
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hardness of heart that, uh, Moses allowed, by the way,
he goes on to say, a bill of divorce. So, God,
Jesus number one, authenticated the truth of God's Word. And
what happened in the garden in Genesis, man and woman.
And then he reiterates it, the fact that it's man
and woman who are to be married. And that is
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what God blesses and asks that they be one flesh together.
Never is it said anywhere else in Scripture that Jesus said,
But it doesn't matter who you marry. I mean, yeah,
God joined man and woman, but it could be man
and man or man and man and woman and woman
and a whole bunch of people married together. It really
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doesn't matter. That is a horrendous ignorance or deception, and
I would hope it'd be ignorance rather than intentional deception. Uh,
but God or Jesus also talks about Sodom and Gomorrah
in Matthew ten as a an actual event. He corroborates
that truth in Matthew ten verse 15. So this is
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so clear when you go to the actual words of
Scripture and you honor it as God's Word, how you
hold that up and you see the either deception or
ignorance from what is being preached in some of these
radical churches.
S1 (32:25):
Yeah, and not only that, but this synchronistic politics and
religion blended together and, um, you know, and I think
you can probably find fault on both sides of the
political aisle with that. That's why my adherence is to
a king, not to a political party.
S5 (32:42):
And it's not a political it's a spiritual issue.
S1 (32:44):
100%.
S5 (32:45):
But it's also an integrity issue. Yes. Have you really
read this book? If you haven't, how dare you say
put on the cloth and stand at a pulpit and say,
I'm a I'm a Christian leader who's going to talk
to you about Jesus?
S1 (32:57):
There she is, standing at the pulpit in her religious
garb and telling the people who are listening and getting
cheered and affirming it, because I'm going to guess that
their political worldview matched hers. But she amalgamated what Scripture says,
what she thinks it says, and then misrepresented what it
said to advance a particular political position. Now that's wrong,
whoever does it. So health care. I thought that one
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was interesting because let's see, Jesus talks about lepers. Jesus talks.
S5 (33:25):
He healed.
S1 (33:25):
A lot. Yeah, he did blindness and lameness and even
brought people back from the dead. Um, Um, so I'm
not quite sure where health care fits into there. Not
only that, but there were people that he did heal
and people he didn't heal.
S5 (33:39):
In fact, in one incident, a paralytic was raised by
him to his feet and healed. And Jesus said, your
sins are forgiven. He said. Now which is easier that
I say, your sins are forgiven or or rise and walk?
But he said, so that you can see that I
am who I am. That is to say, the Christ,
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the Messiah. I'm going to heal him for the greater purpose,
although it's good in itself for the greater purpose of
showing my divinity. These these truths are so self-evident. If
you go to the word with an open heart and
an open mind, and you are willing to read it
in context.
S1 (34:19):
And not only that, but Craig, I was particularly struck
with the richness of God's Word compared to the vacuousness
that you just heard. I mean, there's nothing compelling, there's
nothing fulfilling about what that particular person said, but.
S5 (34:31):
It'll get the applause of people who come in with
a political mindset or a sociological viewpoint, but aren't or
aren't open to the Holy Spirit working in their heart
through the word. The word will bring us to judgment
and conviction for the purpose of bringing us to the cross.
S1 (34:49):
Well, and she also talked about going into Matthew 24.
There's some really powerful stuff in there. There's the parable
of the ten virgins. It's the parable of the talents.
It's the separating. This one, the sheep and the goats. Hello.
As she's up there.
S9 (35:02):
There are real followers.
S5 (35:03):
And there are.
S9 (35:03):
False followers.
S1 (35:04):
Exactly as she's up there doing this. Um, anything but
biblical representation of the word. So the takeaway for this,
and one of the reasons why we continue to do this,
is a we want you to get that intellectual brain
going to be thinking, okay, critically and biblically. Remember, when
you come to faith in Christ, not only is your
heart transformed, but your mind is renewed. It's like going
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from a black and white movie into color and everything
starts to make more sense. There's order and form and
purpose in God's world, and the Bible just affirms and
affirms and affirms so many truths that are out there
in the world, as it says in Romans, that we
are without excuse. So you hear this, and I'm thinking
to myself, it's like serving up cotton candy compared to
the meat of the Word of God. She lowered the meaning,
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the application, the understanding of the word so she could
plug in cheap goods, in this case a particular political position,
and took away the richness, the bounty that can be
found in God's Word. Listen, friend, the only way you're
going to be able to do this is if you
stay immersed in His Word. Otherwise, what you just heard
were vain and hollow philosophies predicated on this world rather
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than on the Word of God. Study to show yourself approved.
Get into the word every single day. Not because you
have to, but because you want to. Read what he
wrote for you and me back after this. So, time
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magazine this week came out. You have to laugh at
this stuff when you're grounded in the word. You realize
how supercilious so much of this stuff is, and it
really does make you laugh, by the way. So the
article was entitled Why You Might Want a Relationship Agreement
even If You're monogamous. The author is a certified clinical
sexologist and sex and dating coach, educator and speaker. I'm
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going to read just a little bit of this, so
you get the drift. Monogamy literally means one marriage in Greek.
The author writes and implies mating for life, one love,
one sexual partner forever. Yet most people think of it
as committing to one person at a time. Did you
know that? I didn't know that. That's what the author says.
But after all, she is a sexologist. You can have
many loves and many sexual partners over the course of
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a lifetime. Oh, really? As long as you are faithful
to each person along the way. Otherwise known as serial monogamy. No,
that's probably called adultery. Or there's a myriad of things.
I don't think that it's called faithful monogamy, but I digress.
Along with this focused attention on just one person comes
the assumption that both parties understand that it's that it's
what is outside the bounds of monogamy. But just as
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monogamy definitions have changed, actually no one man, one woman
till death do you part. That's pretty clear definition and
means different things to different people. No, the same is
true for infidelity, writes the sexologist. Monogamous couples shouldn't just
assume that their partner thinks exactly like them when it
comes to cheating. That's why they might want to step
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into something called an ethically non-monogamous relationship. These agreements, which
spell out what is and isn't permitted within a couple's
version of monogamy, can actually help shape their definition of
monogamy while also building trust and safety. I can't with
a straight face read the rest of it. So the
sexologist is basically boohooing. This is the same thing where
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The Atlantic magazine came out not too long ago, talking
about the death of the nuclear family. Um, they do say,
according to the sexologist, and I would want to cross-reference
her several times. She says 55% of Americans prefer total monogamy.
Yet infidelity is common, and it has become even more
confusing in our digital world. So you've got what God
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says about a marriage, right? Any kind of any kind
of sexual expression outside the bonds of marriage, according to
the king. Sin, premarital sex, extramarital sex, homosexual sex, um,
all of that. Unless it's a husband and a wife
defined by God as a marriage. Then the Bible says, yippee!
Marriage bed is undefiled. Yippee! Rejoice in the bride of
your youth. All those yippee! Song of songs I digress, um,
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but apparently time magazine says if you want to be
happy for the rest of your life, all you have
to do is sign one of these agreements so that
when you in part of your serial monogamy, you're faithful
for that period with that person.
S5 (39:11):
That day.
S1 (39:12):
That day, that hour I gave you a.
S9 (39:14):
Woman. Pass it down. I give you a woman.
S1 (39:15):
By a well in Samaria. But hey, I digress then.
These are the rules that you should have when you're
in that. What fancy blather? Well, give me your thoughts.
S5 (39:24):
Beware. Beware of sexologists bearing confusion. Anybody who needs to
confuse you first to win you over has probably got
something up their sleeve. And what they've got up their sleeve.
This particular sexologist is taking the word monogamy, which by
(39:45):
every dictionary and by the way, I bought when I
first saw this and posted it on X about it,
I had to look at the dictionary because maybe they've
changed the. And that's her hook. But no, the word
still means uh, one mate, uh, loyal to each other, uh,
basically for life. But, um, the the diverse experiences, that's
(40:09):
the part I liked is that monogamy is a diverse experience,
and it can be molded to fit whatever works for
each couple.
S1 (40:17):
Didn't we hear that in the 60s?
S5 (40:19):
Yeah, whatever. You know, turns you on. Uh, that that
was kind of the mindset and didn't work out too,
too good. Um, but here's the here's the fact. The
fact is that language is very powerful. God created language.
And then when man tried to use it, language that
is a common language to build an empire against God.
(40:41):
God said, nope. I'm going to split you up into
various languages. That's how powerful language is. But those who
want to twist language always have something up their sleeve.
If they twist language, it's so that they can fool
you into believing that something is logical, when in fact
it's illogical. So calling something that's monogamy, something that's diverse
(41:03):
and can be adultery and can be multiple, multiple couples
at the same time. This is not only illogical, it's deceptive.
S1 (41:12):
Well, and it's immoral. Okay, so this woman is saying
that this sexologist who wrote this piece is basically saying
monogamy is anything you want it to be. Just have
a good old conversation ahead of time so you understand
what each other's Others expectations are, and then you're going
to be happy in this temporal, monogamous relationship.
S5 (41:31):
And now I would say to the sexologist, look, you know,
put down the confusion of language and the twisting of
language about monogamy. Why don't you just say, let's have
an adulterous compact? Okay, well, now, that wouldn't fly. Why? Well,
we all know why. Because every God has placed eternity
(41:54):
in the hearts of all of us. We have a
moral conscience, a compass called a conscience that knows that
certain things are not right and certain things are certain.
Relationships are not good. Certain relationships are good. And we
have in our hearts built in there this little compass,
regardless of whether we read the Bible or not or
(42:15):
believe in it, that says, yeah, if I if I
marry my wife and I say, you know, to death
do you part? And we're going to be loyal and
support each other. And then I'm going to sneak out
and have an affair. That's not right.
S9 (42:30):
But if we don't.
S5 (42:31):
Call it so, we're not going to call it an
adulterous club or an adulterous compact.
S9 (42:34):
Right?
S1 (42:35):
But if I told you, according to this sexologist, if
I told you ahead of time that that's part of
how I defined this monogamous. Right.
S9 (42:42):
Then don't use the word then.
S1 (42:43):
Don't get upset with me because I told you ahead
of time that I was going to go out and have.
S9 (42:46):
Let's not lie with language. Let's use language.
S5 (42:50):
Lies and use a word that makes us feel comfortable.
Monogamy means something. Language is to mean something. And when
it is twisted and doesn't mean what it means, somebody's
got a plan to trick you.
S1 (43:04):
But you know what verse kept coming to my mind
by the sexologist? There's a way that seems right on
to man. And the end therein is death. Nobody's happy.
S9 (43:12):
It's a serpentine.
S5 (43:13):
Attitude of kind of skirting language and skirting truth, to
try to make you feel better about what you ought
to feel.
S1 (43:20):
As bad as you construct the rules before you step
into this relationship, it's all going to be okay. I
don't think so. We've done so many programs about broken
hearts when it comes to infidelity and adultery. By the way.
On that note, how interesting we're having this conversation because
yesterday was Craig's and my wedding anniversary. Yes, sir. We
have been radically monogamous for 54 years. And if you're
(43:44):
doing the math, I was a child bride, married at six.
So there you go. Now you can figure out how
old we are. Your thoughts?
S5 (43:50):
I was five at the time.
S1 (43:54):
Thank you, sir, for giving me your last name because
it stuck around.
S5 (43:57):
It was my blessing and my privilege.
S1 (44:00):
Thank you sir. I appreciate it. Who'd have known that
the Lord would call us to do this kind of
work together? I just so appreciate it. All right, you
all have a great weekend. Enjoy Memorial Day weekend. Find
some time to rest. Be quiet. Just let the Lord
talk to you. Look around at his world and just
start breaking out into a chorus of this is my
father's world. He is on the throne and he loves you.
Have a great weekend. We'll see you next time.
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