May 14, 2025 • 42 mins
Host Hannah Kerr sits down with her friend Mike Weaver, lead vocalist of Big Daddy Weave, and shares lots of laughs while also having a raw and honest discussion about navigating grief while maintaining faith, and how to find purpose when your prayers aren't answered the way you hoped.
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Mike Weaver (00:00):
I don't think I was mad at God.
I tried that before, I think,and I just found out that it
doesn't really get you anywhere,and so we changed the question
that we were asking as a familynot so much about like why God,
as much as like you know well,god, what is it that you're
doing now?
Hannah Kerr (00:22):
Hey guys, welcome to In the Middle of it.
I'm your host, hannah Kerr.
Today we have a super specialguest.
He is one of my heroes and theysay not to meet your heroes,
but I'm so glad that I not onlymet Mike Weaver, but I know him.
We've been on tour together fortwo years and he's just a dear,
dear friend to me and to Jason.
So please welcome.
(00:43):
The living legend from BigDaddy Weave, mike Weaver.
Mike Weaver (00:47):
That's incredible.
Hey, that's like the best introI ever got.
I think that's like I don'tknow if I can live up to that
through the.
Hannah Kerr (00:53):
You already have lived up to it.
It's amazing.
That's unbelievable.
Mike Weaver (00:56):
When somebody says you're a legend, that really
just means you're getting old.
No, that's not true.
That's awesome.
Hannah Kerr (01:01):
No, I think we do need to settle once and for all
know what I mean?
That's awesome.
No, I think we do need tosettle once and for all, though,
that your name is Mike and it'snot Big Daddy, because I feel
like being out on the road withyou.
It's just like everyone's likehey, big Daddy, and you're like,
you're so sweet.
Mike Weaver (01:13):
For the last better than 20 years we have tried to
convince people of that.
You know, Big Daddy was notreally a person, it was the
group or whatever, but they'rejust kind of like nope Darlene,
that's Big Daddy right there,and so we just whatever you know
, at some point we just changedour mind.
We said well, you know if I?
Hannah Kerr (01:36):
they're like are you Big Daddy Weave?
And I'm like well, that depends.
Does that make you want to buya CD more?
If I am, it's like well then,nice to meet you, bd, we get
your name Big Daddy.
Weave.
You're like okay, here we goagain.
Yeah, we're just like apicture's worth a thousand words
, oh it's so funny, though, thatit was Big Daddy Weave and the
institution.
I love that, but then youdropped the institution.
Mike Weaver (01:57):
Yeah, we scrambled at the end because the label
wasn't liking any of it really,and so we're like well, you come
up with a better name.
And the list of names they gaveus I won't even repeat here.
You know what.
I mean it's like, and so wewere like well, it is kind of
confusing the institution orwhatever.
All right, we'll just be bigdaddy weave, and so ladies and
gentlemen, the moral of thestory is be careful.
What you call your group,that's it.
Hannah Kerr (02:19):
Say a prayer before you name it.
Mike Weaver (02:20):
Say a prayer.
Hannah Kerr (02:21):
No, it's perfect because you've had the name for
25 years now.
You guys have been a band.
Mike Weaver (02:25):
We just last week celebrated 26 years 26 years.
I can't even believe that.
Hannah Kerr (02:31):
Your band is like a full-grown adult that has a
mortgage.
You know what I mean.
It's crazy.
Mike Weaver (02:38):
You definitely understand the mortgage part.
It's coming every month.
Hannah Kerr (02:41):
I love it.
It's amazing, okay, well, thankyou for being on this podcast.
I'm so excited.
Mike Weaver (02:50):
Listen, it is my honor and as much as I mean.
Gosh, you just honored me, butwe love you so much, me and the
rest of Big Daddy Weave Thankyou.
And I'm telling you so.
We have been on the roadtogether five different tours.
Crazy I'm telling you, I'vejust seen the kindness of the
Lord in you.
I've just seen the man you growin the Lord so much.
You and Jason, both we justlove you like you're our family.
And so when you were like I'mstarting a podcast and I was
(03:12):
kind of like dude, I want to beon it.
That was so sweet.
Hannah Kerr (03:15):
And I don't want to be on any podcast.
That's so kind.
Mike Weaver (03:19):
But this is so awesome, man.
I love the look of it, I lovethe feel of it, I love the theme
, I love in the middle, I loveall of that, thank you.
Hannah Kerr (03:25):
That's really kind.
Okay, well, I want to start uswith a game, a little icebreaker
.
I'm sure everyone watching thisprobably knows you, knows who
you are, but I want them to knowyou even better.
Okay, okay, we're going to playlove it, hate it, or if you
feel kind of neutral in themiddle of it.
You see what we did there.
Mike Weaver (03:45):
Okay, yeah, okay.
Hannah Kerr (03:47):
And no explanation necessary, but if you feel led
to give one feel free to explainyourself, okay.
We're starting off easy, MikeChick-fil-A waffle fries Love it
.
Love it.
Yes, do you have a preferenceversus like the, the crunchy
waffley ones, or like the end ofthe potato potato?
Mike Weaver (04:04):
Well, I will say this my daughter Naomi actually
so she eats all has a diet basedalmost exclusively on
chick-fil-A waffle fries, and soshe.
But when she comes to the endof them, you know, um, then
she's like daddy, this one's foryou.
You know, and so I give you Iget those the most, but I love
all of them.
(04:24):
I'm an equal opportunity wafflefry eater.
Hannah Kerr (04:27):
I love it.
That's great.
Jason likes the end of thewaffle fry, I like the crunchy
ones, so we're like a perfectpair you know what I mean?
Mike Weaver (04:33):
It is that's perfect.
You guys were made for eachother.
Hannah Kerr (04:35):
We were made for each other, and that's just
another reason to add to thelist Star Wars.
Oh, love it.
I knew that about you.
I was just throwing that inthere for you when I was one
year old, star Wars came outright.
Wow.
Mike Weaver (04:49):
And so my dad.
So this is back in drive-inmovie theater days or whatever,
and my dad said that literallyhe pulled up to the drive-in
movie theater, the movie starts,my mom instantly falls asleep
and I'm standing in between themon the front seat and he said
my one year old hand was on hisshoulder and I watched
unflinchingly the entire movieand I've been a lifelong fan,
(05:12):
ever since.
Hannah Kerr (05:13):
It just had you from that first moment it did
you had me from like this.
Mike Weaver (05:17):
Yeah, that was, that was excellent, thank you I
feel like we both just did ourbest work.
So good.
Hannah Kerr (05:22):
OK, next heavy metal music.
Mike Weaver (05:25):
Love it.
You do, I do.
I didn't know that about you, Imean as a singer of a Christian
AC group or whatever.
Hannah Kerr (05:31):
I know I'm like Big Daddy Weave is so similar to
that.
Mike Weaver (05:33):
Yeah, not very much but I love it.
But I actually love all kindsof music, a really good version
of whatever that genre is yep, Ilove.
Hannah Kerr (05:42):
It okay, good to know.
Pineapple on pizza pineapple.
Mike Weaver (05:46):
Pineapple on pizza.
It's in.
I'm in the middle in the okay,because I don't know that I
would order it, but I've alsolike, I really love sushi also
and so I would I've orderedpineapple in sushi, okay.
So like I think that you know II'm okay with that.
I've wound up in some placeswhere it's like all they have is
the pineapple kind and I ate itand I was like that that's not
too bad.
Hannah Kerr (06:07):
It's not too bad.
We just had pizza togetherrecently with our, with our
families and we didn't havepineapple on any of those pizzas
None of those pizzas.
So that's what made me think ofit.
I was like maybe he's a hater.
Mike Weaver (06:16):
Yeah, and I was not .
I was not hating, it's great.
What do you think aboutpineapple?
Hannah Kerr (06:23):
I love it.
It's one of my favoritetoppings.
Mike Weaver (06:24):
I should have ordered.
That was my bad.
No, that was my bad.
Hannah Kerr (06:27):
I do not discriminate on toppings.
In general I like all of them.
Mike Weaver (06:31):
We would have had pineapple on a gluten-free crust
pizza.
Yeah, on a gluten-free crust.
Hannah Kerr (06:36):
I love it.
Okay, good to know.
Okay, next pickleball,pickleball, love it yeah.
Not very good at it, me eitherit is not a strength of mine in
the lord, but I do enjoy it.
I do like it.
Dude jason rules at pickleball.
Mike Weaver (06:51):
He rules at it, it's he and my son elok could
kind of have a good match, Ithink.
Hannah Kerr (06:54):
So it's like yeah, we, we can watch and drink our
route 44 sonic drinks and justwatch.
That's exactly right.
That's right.
That's an important thing tohave while you're playing
pickleball.
Mike Weaver (07:04):
Yeah, route 44, route 44 size.
Hannah Kerr (07:06):
Oh, you say route.
Is that the right way to say?
Mike Weaver (07:09):
it.
You're probably saying it right.
Hannah Kerr (07:10):
Oh, I have no idea what's in your route 44?
Like, what do you get fromSonic?
Mike Weaver (07:14):
Man, I would get something zero.
You know what I mean.
So either water or Coke zero orsome kind of you know it's got
zero.
Hannah Kerr (07:22):
I love it.
That's great Okay.
Next is Crocs.
Mike Weaver (07:26):
Crocs.
Hannah Kerr (07:26):
Yes, I love them actually, me too.
Mike Weaver (07:28):
They.
I don't.
I don't love how they look, butI love how they feel.
Hannah Kerr (07:32):
I feel like they understand me.
You know what I mean.
Mike Weaver (07:34):
It's like big daddies have a certain you know,
kind of a level of comfort thatwe are accustomed to, and Crocs
are kind of like walking onlittle clouds or something.
Hannah Kerr (07:44):
That's right.
Do you have any?
Do you have Crocs?
Mike Weaver (07:54):
I have.
I have one current pair ofCrocs.
I usually wear Crocs until theylike there's no tread of any
kind on the bottom, and then youlike go out on a rainy day and
do like the Scooby-Doo likething and like injure yourself
and then say to myself, I'mnever going to wear Crocs again
until I go oh, those look reallycomfy.
Hannah Kerr (08:08):
And then do the whole thing again.
Do you have any of the littlewhat are they called Gibbets
that you put in?
Put inside the little holes.
Mike Weaver (08:13):
I don't, I didn't, I don't have any of that I have
a Christmas present for you?
Hannah Kerr (08:17):
Oh, just get you some gib.
Okay, all right, board games,is it really?
Mike Weaver (08:22):
called gibbets.
Hannah Kerr (08:23):
I don't know.
I said that yesterday.
I was like, is it giblets?
And then I was like I don'tthink it's giblets.
Mike Weaver (08:29):
I don't think so.
I think it's gibbets.
All right, sorry Board games,board games.
Hannah Kerr (08:33):
Do you like games?
Mike Weaver (08:34):
Not so much.
Hannah Kerr (08:35):
Okay, it's a about that for you.
With this game I was like MikeWeaver is going to have a hard
time saying he hates anything,because you're just so kind.
Mike Weaver (08:46):
Because the greatest of these is love.
The greatest of these is love.
Hannah Kerr (08:50):
But you're not hurting the game of life's
feelings, so it's okay, that'strue.
Mike Weaver (08:55):
My wife Candice lives to play games Does she.
And she's the nicest personever, until we play games.
Hannah Kerr (09:02):
You know what I'm saying?
Mike Weaver (09:02):
She's competitive, she is so competitive, and if
she plays games with her sistersshe has three other sisters.
That is like I have to go toanother room, you know what I
mean, and so so I don't know,man, I can be coaxed into
playing a game, but I'm doing itbecause I love somebody else.
Hannah Kerr (09:18):
Okay, it's not a love that comes from you, I got
it.
Okay, three snow.
Mike Weaver (09:24):
Yes, well, I love the cold.
Okay, snow is problem.
I love looking at snow, love it, yes, being in snow.
You love being in the middle ofsnow trapped in snow, not that
is not so much.
Hannah Kerr (09:37):
Yes, okay, okay, yes, yes, yes, I love it and
you're you're not from the snowyplace, so no, yes, no, no, no
love it.
Love it Okay, sleeping on atour bus.
Mike Weaver (09:45):
Sleeping on a tour bus Love it.
Hannah Kerr (09:47):
Do you, do you, sleep well on the bus?
Mike Weaver (09:49):
I sleep like I sleep at home, on the tour bus,
oh, that's amazing.
I don't know what it is, but ifwe stop then I don't sleep as
well.
I sleep when we're moving.
The keyboard player for BigDaddy Weave drives the bus for
us and he is potentially thegreatest driver that we've ever
had because he knows what itfeels like to be thrown about
back there.
(10:09):
So he drives amazingly, and sowhen I get in there I catch up
on my sleep on the road it'sreally good.
Hannah Kerr (10:15):
That's amazing.
Mike Weaver (10:15):
I'm happy for you in that way, do you have a rough
time?
Hannah Kerr (10:18):
Yeah, I'm a pretty light sleeper so I struggle on
the bus a good bit, but I mean,I feel like I've gotten used to
it over the years.
Mike Weaver (10:24):
How does?
Hannah Kerr (10:25):
Jason do.
He's a perfect sleeper.
He sleeps like a baby on thebus.
Mike Weaver (10:29):
That's awesome.
Like a baby.
Hannah Kerr (10:30):
Like a baby, which I don't know if that's a really
good phrase, because babiesdon't sleep much.
Mike Weaver (10:33):
It's true.
They're waking up every fewhours.
He sleeps like a husband.
You know what I mean.
Like, just not a care in theworld.
So.
Hannah Kerr (10:43):
I love that for him .
He gets great sleep on the road.
Mike Weaver (10:45):
Oh man.
So what do you need tocompensate for it then?
Do you have to take somethingto try to go to sleep?
Hannah Kerr (10:50):
I wear earplugs and that helps, and then I really
just let myself wake up and justsay it's okay to wake up right
now, I'm just going to go backto sleep.
So I do talk to God a lot onthe bus.
I'm like, hey God, it's me,hannah Again.
Mike Weaver (11:06):
Uh please help me to sleep right now, God so the
more I overthink it, though, theless I sleep.
So yeah, anyways, okay, lastone, yep, all right, coffee,
coffee.
I love it when it's heavilymedicated.
Hannah Kerr (11:18):
Okay.
Mike Weaver (11:18):
Not medicated, but uh, sweetened yeah.
Hannah Kerr (11:22):
I that sound bite.
Mike Weaver canceled, yeah,canceled when it's heavily
medicated.
Mike Weaver (11:27):
Yeah, when I pour all of that alcohol in my?
Yeah, not that at all.
Not that at all Alcohol.
Hannah Kerr (11:33):
Not a big fan.
Yeah, hate it, yeah great.
Mike Weaver (11:35):
Just the taste of it.
Not judging anybody, but it'slike I'm not the natural born
coffee drinker.
Yeah, I'm the natural bornKool-Aid Now that is like a
natural born Kool-Aid drinker,that's great.
So it's like something thattastes like candy.
Hannah Kerr (11:50):
I can drink that.
What's in your mug right now?
What are you drinking?
Mike Weaver (11:54):
This is Body Armor Zero.
Okay, because diabetes is real.
Hannah Kerr (11:58):
Okay, that's like you got to get it together the
zero.
Mike Weaver (12:01):
Yeah, so we keep it on the zero level, but I find
that to be a delicious sweetdrink to drink.
Hannah Kerr (12:06):
Just a little treat .
So it's great I have water inmine.
It's not very exciting.
Mike Weaver (12:09):
You do.
Hannah Kerr (12:10):
I thought you would have had coffee in there, Well
I actually had coffee earliertoday and I did have to cut
myself off Because, yeah.
Mike Weaver (12:16):
What is the most amount of coffee you've ever
drank in one day?
Hannah Kerr (12:20):
I mean not a ton, if I have like two lattes in a
day.
When you think about that,that's like three shots of
espresso in each latte and thatis a lot of coffee.
But I start to get anxious if Ihave too much coffee.
I already struggle with anxiety.
So if you add caffeine too muchI start to get a little jittery
.
Mike Weaver (12:36):
Too much, too much yes.
Hannah Kerr (12:38):
Okay, Well, that was love it hate it in the
middle of it.
Mike Weaver (12:42):
You did great.
Thank you, that was awesome,that was so fun.
Yeah, thanks for your answers,and I don't even like games.
Like I told you, this is great,but it was beautiful.
No, I love it.
Hannah Kerr (12:46):
It's just a little segment, I love it Okay well,
let's get into it.
This podcast is called In theMiddle of.
Mike Weaver (12:53):
It.
Hannah Kerr (13:05):
We talk about just being easy to say like I went
through this thing and I'm overit now and God's good, and if
that's your story, praise theLord.
But I just think a lot ofpeople are in the middle of
something that they don't knowhow it's going to turn out.
And um, it's okay to live inthat tension and I feel like
just being on the road with youand just watching you um be in
the middle of it, be in themiddle of grief and loss.
And um, and just the way thatyou've navigated it has been.
It's just witnessed to me a lotabout what it looks like to
(13:30):
love Jesus and to deal withthings that are really difficult
and to still have your faith inthe middle of that.
So I'd love to talk about that,just what you're in the middle
of right now, and we can just gowherever the Spirit leads.
Mike Weaver (13:41):
Yeah, you know, my little brother Jay was the hub
in the middle of the wheel leads.
Yeah, you know, um, uh, mylittle brother Jay was uh the
hub in the middle of the wheelof big daddy.
He was the bass player and towatch us from stage you would
not know that.
It's like he had all of thethings come across his plate
that he would you know?
Hannah Kerr (13:59):
Yeah.
Mike Weaver (13:59):
Um and, but we were best friends and we uh, and you
know he's my little brother,but he always sort of functioned
like the big brother in a way.
Like he was always kind of thehero in a way and man.
So we played music together inBig Daddy.
We grew up together in on theGulf Coast of Florida and then I
(14:21):
went to the University ofMobile and met the rest of the
guys in Big Daddy Weave.
Hannah Kerr (14:24):
So cool.
Mike Weaver (14:25):
He never went to school there, but he was always
tagging along, you know, and umand so when, when that happened
26 years ago, I mean it was just, it was off to the races and it
was the stuff that jay and Ihad always dreamed about.
We love music, we love playingmusic, we're playing music
together, writing music together, like all all of those of those
things.
Um, and then.
(14:45):
So when that happened, that wasreally his passion.
He was, he was a leader in that, for sure.
You know, um, man, at some uhkind of a little ways into the
group.
Uh, big Daddy Weave, you know,uh was just kind of at a, a low
point or something, or we werejust going through a weird
season.
We were in the middle of aweird season right, yeah, yeah.
(15:06):
And we began to cry out to theLord and then just sort of make
ourselves available to Him in adifferent way.
And then God began to move atthe shows in just a significant
way.
Jay had always been like areally fun guy.
Hannah Kerr (15:21):
Yeah.
Mike Weaver (15:22):
But then something really happened in his life too
where not just on the busbecause he couldn't sleep, but
the Lord began to wake him up atlike three and 4am in the
morning and he would just getthese downloads from God and the
stuff he would share.
I'm like Jay, I know you and Iknow you couldn't come up with
that you know, and so then, man,we just started like there's a
shift in the shows when we beganto end the shows every night,
(15:45):
where we're just like prayingfor people, and we just began to
see God move in the miraculous,and it was incredible.
And so for probably about sevenyears straight, man, we just
saw, night after night, god pourout in such a special way.
We saw physical sickness healed.
We saw emotional you knowphysical sickness you know
(16:05):
healed.
We saw emotional damage, youknow, be restored, you know.
We saw chains of addictionbreak, you know, and it was on a
nightly basis, it was.
It became very rare that insome day of our life that we did
not hear the testimony of theLord coming in about what he had
done.
Hannah Kerr (16:22):
Yeah, yeah, it was amazing.
When was that?
When did that kind of start?
Mike Weaver (16:26):
So this was, this was probably I'm looking at our
manager, jim, right now probablyabout 2011, 2010 or 2011.
Yeah, and and so, um, man, I'mtelling you, and then all the
things that God was doing beganto like fuel the songs that we
were writing and fuel thedirection that we were heading
(16:47):
in, and all of that stuff yeah.
And my brother had always hadsome health issues, but then in
the middle of of that season ofincredible miracles, those
issues began to worsen and hewas diabetic and it was kind of
this other thing that I neverreally understood.
But it's like when you go to adoctor and then the doctor
(17:08):
treats this, but then, thismesses this up, and so we're
trying to treat this and it'sthis sort of like chasing your
tail kind of like thing thathappens or whatever.
And we watched my brother gothrough this and at one point,
literally to save his life,doctors had to amputate both of
his feet and we didn't know ifhe could come back from that and
(17:28):
be in the group anymore.
But he did and he came back outand it was as powerful or more
afterwards and before, prayingfor people every night, seeing
God do miracles in the lives ofcomplete strangers, that Jay
needed in his own body which.
I don't understand to this day.
Hannah Kerr (17:44):
Honestly, I know it's like how do we live in that
tension of when we're prayingfor something and God does it,
but then sometimes he doesn't?
You know but I've heard youtestify that, jay just His faith
was so beautiful in that timeof just praying for people, not
seeing it in his own body, butseeing miracles happen for
someone that he needed.
Mike Weaver (18:06):
Yeah.
Hannah Kerr (18:06):
And then never being bitter about it.
Mike Weaver (18:09):
Yes, that was a different kind of miracle.
Hannah Kerr (18:12):
Yeah.
Mike Weaver (18:13):
You know, because there's I mean there's physical
miracles, but then there's manyother miracles.
The greatest miracle of all issomething that maybe you don't
see on the outside at first.
It's the change of our hearts.
When Jesus comes to live there,you know, and so, man, when we
just thought he had been throughso much, we just thought we had
(18:33):
him for a lot longer on thisplanet than we did.
At one point, his health got tothe point where he couldn't be
on the road anymore.
That almost killed him byitself, because he lived to go
and do that.
You know, he just loved everypart of it.
And so, um, man, at thebeginning of uh 2022, january
2nd 2022, I got the mostterrible phone call and Jay had
(18:53):
gone into the hospital, uh, overover just right after Christmas
, and it's like we couldn't hearanything from him and his
health had just declined in sucha way and actually I heard my
little brother on that phonecall take his last breath.
And when that happened, um, tome, a lot, a lot of stuff just
(19:17):
fell apart.
Yeah, um, in recent yearsbefore that, my dad, who was our
hero I mean, he's an incredibleman of God went to be with
Jesus on Christmas day 2017, in2021.
My mom, who was never reallyherself again, much after he had
passed um, went to be withJesus in 2021, just right after
(19:39):
mother's day and man, and, andthen this you know, and then Jay
went home and I was kind oflike I don't even know if I know
who I am you know, without them, you know this little family
that I had grown up with waskind of um this, stabilizing you
know place in my life you know,and I and I was just, I was
(20:02):
just so broken over it, you know.
Hannah Kerr (20:05):
Yeah, To lose your best friend, your brother.
You didn't know, Big DaddyWeaver, the road without him,
and he had just, you know,started this legacy of faith and
prayer and ministry.
And you guys were in ittogether, you were partners, you
know.
But, um, I, how, how has itbeen to be on the road without
(20:27):
him?
How do you live in that tensionof missing him and continuing
to do what you know God's calledyou to do?
How do you, how do you do that?
Mike Weaver (20:36):
It is.
When you say tension, that'swhat it really is for me, cause
it took this thing that had beena home to me for so long and
then, without him there, when Ilook around to see it, this
thing that I loved without himthere, it kind of just hurts.
You know, like it's not what itwas to me in that way, but I
love the kindness of the Lordbecause he.
Let me see the miracles first.
Hannah Kerr (20:57):
Yeah.
Mike Weaver (20:58):
And so it's like in my heart it's already
established that he is good andhe has good in mind for those
who love Him and just forhumanity in general.
But something changed in mebecause, man, when we would pray
for people, we just knew it wasgoing to happen and we would
(21:19):
pray like it was alreadyhappening.
Hebrews talks about that faithis being certain of what we hope
for.
We would pray in that way.
And when Jay passed,specifically, I know that when I
would pray, all of a sudden,when I would get to the end,
there would.
It was almost like I would pullthe punch.
Hannah Kerr (21:37):
You know what I mean.
Mike Weaver (21:39):
But in the that, uh , I feel like the Lord was
revealing to me that the thingsthat I love about the miracles
was kind of this thing thatwasn't very, uh, healthy.
In a way, too, it was like whenyou see God do so much, there's
this thing where you almoststart feeling like you kind of
got God on a leash.
Wow, and, by the way, that'snot the case, right.
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Right you know the sovereigntyof God is real.
He's God, almighty.
There's only one there's onlyone who is, you know, and it's
him and I, you know, I spent alot of time at first after my,
my dad and my mom and Jay passed, really just wanting to know
why, and it felt like I wasbeating my head against a brick
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wall you know, but then you know, after you exhaust yourself
being that I don't think I wasmad at God, I've I tried that
before, I think, and I justfound out that it doesn't really
get you anywhere.
But when I'm not getting theseanswers, it's, it's a
frustrating thing you know, andso we changed the question that
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we were asking as a family mylittle family not so much about
like why God, as much as likeyou know well, god, what is it
that you're doing?
Hannah Kerr (22:56):
now.
Mike Weaver (22:57):
And I'm telling you , if you're not seeing him heal,
you may be seeing him like,just, hold you.
You may, just, you may just seehim providing in some other way
.
You know, because he is amultifaceted God and I do
believe he's a God who heals andI believe you can pray in
confidence, but you can alsotake your hands off of what
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happens, because you're not Godyou know, and just rest in the
fact that you know, if you'renot seeing it today, then he's
not done with it yet and we cantrust the fact that he really is
good, because we we have seenhis heart displayed in other
parts of our life.
Yeah, yeah.
Hannah Kerr (23:36):
And I think, something that I've been
thinking about a lot just beingon the road and seeing miracles
and seeing God move is justchecking in my own heart that
I'm not loving the work of Godmore than I'm loving God.
Mike Weaver (23:49):
Oh, my gosh, hannah , you know.
Hannah Kerr (23:51):
I think it's a tension to be like, okay, I'm
seeing this amazing thing, but Ilove you, God If I never see
another thing, if I never youknow, I've just been praying
through that and just makingsure that my heart is for him.
Mike Weaver (24:06):
It's so good.
Hannah Kerr (24:07):
Wanting him more than the miracle, and I even
think about that, with youlosing your family like just
your closest people.
And what does it look like whenthat is taken away?
And God is your support.
God is who you lean on, likeyou don't have a choice, you
know.
Mike Weaver (24:25):
Yeah, I was left with all these like unanswered
questions, yeah, but still hewas there, you know, yeah, and I
, you know that's incredible tome and what you just described
is, I think, what happened in me.
The very first night we everprayed for anybody in the show
in the way that we kind of movedinto.
I was in the bathroom washingmy hands before we were going to
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go out and start the show, andI heard, as clear as a bell, the
voice of the Holy Spirit justsay there's people out there
tonight that can't have children, and you just need to let them
know.
I haven't forgotten about them.
Right and I'm like for real,like in the bathroom you know,
like what's the I'm washing myhands?
Hannah Kerr (25:06):
Yeah, totally, you know.
Mike Weaver (25:09):
And so we just said that, and there were three of
them, and for months after that,as the Lord would give us these
little downloads, there wouldbe three of them, but in the
beauty of the entire thing wasjust learning how to hear him
and walk with him, you know,then you begin to see the
miracles, though, and you'rejust like, ooh, I want to see
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you one up that one and I waswondering because you know
there's not really a recordedcase.
I mean, there's a place thatsaid Jesus didn't do many
miracles in a certain place, butthere's not a recorded case of
where Jesus prays for somebodyand then nothing happens.
Hannah Kerr (25:44):
Right.
Mike Weaver (25:45):
Right, right.
And so I was just like well,that's because every time you
pray for somebody, somebody issomebody, is just supposed to
get healed every time.
You know what I mean.
But really I think his trackrecord came from this Jesus says
this to Philip Philip goes well.
Why don't you show us thefather and?
And?
Jesus goes well.
Why don't you show us theFather and Jesus?
Hannah Kerr (26:04):
goes.
Mike Weaver (26:04):
Philip, if you saw me, you saw the Father, because
I don't do anything that theFather's not doing.
I only do what I see the Fatherdo.
Right, he's only in thisintimate place with the Father
and he's only operating out ofthat.
And because when you get God,you get everything else, what's
the Ben Fuller song right now?
It's like if I got Jesus, I goteverything.
Hannah Kerr (26:26):
I got everything I'll ever need.
That's the thing.
Mike Weaver (26:28):
All the miracles come with Jesus, but I'm telling
you, you can make a God out ofthe miracles, and that is not
what Jesus wants.
Hannah Kerr (26:37):
It's so cool to hear about just that season of
Big Daddy Weaves ministry justbeing so rich with the presence
of God, with miracles, and howhave you seen that legacy that
Jay has started?
How have you seen that continueeven after he's left, even
today in Big Daddy Weavesministry?
Mike Weaver (26:57):
I think there's a shift in our purpose.
There wasn't always this muchgray in the beard.
Hannah Kerr (27:04):
I don't see any.
There's like so much.
Mike Weaver (27:06):
It's like but and you know what I mean it's like
at some point we're going to begranddaddy weave here.
You know what I mean.
But the thing the thing is isthat you know we were going out
and we were doing this stuff fora long time time, but one of
the first places that I reallyexperienced joy again after Jay
was here, was honestly seeingyou and Jason praying for people
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.
And then it dawned on me, Ithink my purpose in this whole
thing has changed that.
My delight is seeing my kids getJesus in a real way.
My son, eli, is down therepraying for people every night.
And seeing him learn and seeinghim learn how to hear from God
Again.
You're not just going for thisevent, you want to walk with the
Lord.
We want to flow with the Lord,like, what are you doing?
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You know when we began to sayit and instead of asking why, we
began to ask the question God,what are you doing?
All the answers shows up soquickly and usually he's not
pointing here, he's pointingsomewhere where you, literally
you know cause I, where I'vefound the most sense of healing,
uh, is when I'm not thinkingabout me so much.
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You know what I mean.
Yeah, it just dawns on me thatI'm consumed with my own pain or
whatever, my own situation.
Hannah Kerr (28:27):
Yeah.
Mike Weaver (28:27):
When the Lord is going like.
Let me show you how to have joyLike our pastors share, like
the acronym of joy.
You know, you said Jesus,others and you.
Hannah Kerr (28:36):
Yeah.
Mike Weaver (28:37):
Right, pastors share like the acronym of joy.
You know, you said jesus,others and you yeah, right, and
so that's a and that thingseeing the lord move in you guys
, seeing, I mean, you guys growin the lord man.
Hannah, you are one of the mostcompassionate people I've ever
known.
Like I, when I see you down andyou're ministering to people,
I've seen people who are sobrokenhearted come straight to
you because it's like they cansee it on you, you know, and you
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just literally just hug theminto the love of God, into the
presence of God.
You know, it's so good man andit's amazing that your awesome
husband, his, name is Jason.
Yeah, because we call my brotherJay or Jay Dog, but his name's
Jason.
Hannah Kerr (29:13):
Yeah.
Mike Weaver (29:14):
And it means one who heals actually J-Dog, but
his name's Jason.
And it means one who healsactually.
And so when I met Jason, whohad also been through
significant loss, in his lifeand recent loss in his life.
We kind of bonded over that alittle bit.
But, man, there was thisopenness in him to step out into
new places in the Lord and hebegan to pray for people.
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And so I'll share a story thatI've been sharing in the shows
because I love it.
It's so good, man, you know.
So we were in I don't know whatthe town was, we were in, we
were in maybe Nebraska orsomeplace like that, and Jason
was walking through thesanctuary before the show of the
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little church we were playingat and he sees a man who the
Lord puts on his heart.
He's watching what the father'sdoing, right, and he goes and
he asked the man.
He said, man, is there anythingI can pray for you about?
And at first the guy is like no, and the guy shares this with
us.
Later he says, man, I have thisthing with my back, but I don't
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want to tell him because he'slike I'm scared.
He's going to pray and nothing'sgoing to happen.
Hannah Kerr (30:20):
Right.
Mike Weaver (30:21):
And so he denies it as long as he can, but Jason
won't let go because he's he'swatching the father, right.
And so finally the guy says,well, there's this thing with my
back.
And what the story was is like,however, long before ago the
man had fallen off a tallextension ladder, had two
bulging discs in his back, wasin terrible pain, was actually
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on the books with a surgeon tohave the operation for it and
all this stuff.
And he's sitting at the showthat night in pain but doesn't
want to say it.
And finally says it and Jasonprays and then all of the pain
leaves his back right and he'slike oh, you know and you're
thinking like, well, but it'sprobably coming back right and
(31:03):
it never does.
He goes in for the surgery onlyto find out man, are you messing
with us?
Dude, there's nothing wrongwith this.
Like the Lord had completelyhealed the discs in his back.
Hannah Kerr (31:13):
He just healed his back right and they had the
proof of this?
Yes, Cause they already scannedit.
Mike Weaver (31:17):
They already had him lined up for surgery and all
of that stuff.
So then the guy comes back tothe show and is just in his
saying all this stuff, you know,and he's like man.
And so we give him themicrophone, he testifies like
man.
The Lord healed my back, and soit's crazy.
Then a couple of times on theroad I keep looking at Jason,
who is like off screen.
Hannah Kerr (31:37):
Yeah, he's over there, you guys, because this is
just real stuff to me, man.
Mike Weaver (31:41):
This is life to me right now the story of this I'm
telling you, and so the guyshares, and then everybody comes
down in front at the end topray.
Three more people who have discissues in their back come down
and leave with no pain.
Hannah Kerr (31:56):
They didn't come back with the other testimonies
yet, but it's like the Lord ismoving, you know.
And there's something whenpeople hear a testimony like oh,
I have that issue and maybe Godcould do that for me.
Like it almost like, rises uptheir faith to hear a story of
someone else.
That received healing forsomething they need.
Mike Weaver (32:15):
And you know who needs to hear that the most is
that story is somebody who's inthe middle.
Hannah Kerr (32:21):
Yeah.
Mike Weaver (32:22):
Somebody who's in the middle of it that's where
the enemy wants to show up Inthe middle sometimes is kind of
at a low point, right, you know.
And the enemy wants to tellpeople he wants to say, look,
the low point is the end of itfor you, right, you know?
And and.
But the devil's a liar, right,you know?
And, and that's what I love islike, even this story with jay,
when jay died, there's thisthing.
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The enemy's telling me it'sover, yeah, it's over.
How can you ever even believeme for a miracle again in jesus?
How can you believe god for amiracle again?
You know, when you know this,the people you wanted it for the
most.
That didn't happen to you andI'm and I didn't have an answer
to that question, but it reallyhurt my hope you know yeah.
(33:03):
And, man, the fact that thisyoung man named Jason shows up,
and I just see God doing it allagain, and but doing it
different, doing it in a waythat's unique to you guys and I.
Hannah Kerr (33:13):
I just I love that that's who he is, and it's a.
It's a hope builder for me, man, and it's a.
It's a.
It's a restoring, restoringwork that God is doing in me.
Yeah, yeah, it's been so sweet.
I've loved watching you and my,my Jason, just really connect,
and we've just learned so muchabout how to pray for miracles,
about what it looks like to havefaith for miracles.
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Um, it's just been the bestexperience we were talking about
it earlier of just.
It's been life-changing for usto just watch God move and to
learn from you guys how to evenbe open to that, like I didn't
grow up in a faith traditionwhere we prayed for miracles,
you know.
So it's just been so cool.
I wish that I could have metJay.
I just hear all these storiesand we came on the road with you
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guys right after.
I think the first tour backafter he passed away was the one
that we came on and I love thatit was called the only the
beginning tour, like it's just,it's the beginning of a new
season that God has you in, andit felt like a new season for us
too of just operating in thisnew way with God, of just
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believing him for more in ourlives, and that's just been
really, really cool.
I'm just grateful for that.
Mike Weaver (34:21):
Yeah, Hannah, I really and truly believe in my
heart that the Lord has suchhuge things for you guys you
know, and I know that I'm justgoing to enjoy watching what he
does with you.
You know it's my favorite.
I love it.
Hannah Kerr (34:34):
It's so cool and I want to talk about your family a
little bit more just, um,watching your kids now kind of
pick up the mantle that you'vebeen carrying and just watching
them lead worship.
I got to see, uh, naomi, yourdaughter, she's 13.
Yeah, I got to see her leadworship a couple of times and
she's just so anointed, she's sogifted.
And watching Eli pray forpeople every night and watching
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Zeke like just play does he playbass?
Like just watching you and yourkids lead worship together.
What is that like for you, astheir dad, to just watch them
grow up.
Mike Weaver (35:05):
That is the next level for me, man.
That is the next level.
That is the place.
My place of greatest peace isjust being with them.
Man, I'm married so far out ofmy league.
Candace are amazing, I know,because they've had a lot of
prayer, but but also they're soamazing because of who their
mama is too, man and she's beenlike this constant in their life
(35:28):
.
You know I'm going on the road.
Sometimes they're getting tocome on the road, that kind of
stuff.
But, you know and so, but I andI, I feel a sense of resolve and
a sense of purpose in big daddyweave, um, but I also have this
huge love, uh, for getting tolead worship with my kids yeah
because I love seeing every it'slike.
Every time I feel like theygrow in it, like with an
(35:49):
exponent you know, yeah, yeahand I love hearing eli ask these
questions.
he's the oldest one and he, hehas these questions about
ministry and about life and he,he's like a he just he burns
that people would come to knowthe Lord.
You know, I'm like I don't knowa lot of other 17 year olds
that were like that you knowhe's a man of God at 17.
Hannah Kerr (36:07):
Like legitimately.
Yeah, I look up to him in someways my son, you know, and like
only Jesus can do that, man so.
Mike Weaver (36:15):
I love all of them, man, they're, they're, they're
so special.
I mean, obviously, causethey're my family, but I just,
you know, I'm so grateful forthem and that's the place of
greatest ministry, like to me,is is with them.
Hannah Kerr (36:27):
It's so sweet.
I'm not a part of your family,but I am proud of them, like I
am their family.
Mike Weaver (36:32):
You kind of are, though you know what I mean they
, you kind of are, though youknow what I mean.
Hannah Kerr (36:34):
I mean, I feel like I've just watched them, even in
the past few years, just matureand grow so much and like I
look up to Eli as well just hisfaith and the way that he loves
the Lord and trusts him andbelieves for miracles from him
Like it's been amazing he's seenblind eyes healed, like right
before his.
Like it's just, it's beenamazing.
And then Naomi, just her voiceis such a gift and it's just
it's been amazing.
Mike Weaver (36:54):
And then Naomi, just her voice is such a gift
and it's ministered to me likejust listening to her sing, and
likewise because I know that manNaomi, two of her very favorite
people in the entire world, shereally looks up to you and she
really looks up to McKenna Johnsfrom the Young Escape, but you
guys are kind of besties.
And so man that's, I'm tellingyou, she just thinks the world
of you two.
And so, man, that's, I'mtelling you, she just thinks the
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world of you two.
And I'm so glad those are thekind of role models that she has
.
Hannah Kerr (37:19):
That's so sweet.
I can't wait to see what all ofyour kids do as they keep
growing and just it's so cool.
It's a testament to you andCandice both just the way that
you followed the Lord, that theyare after the Lord now too,
Like it's just, it's so sweet.
Mike Weaver (37:33):
Thanks for saying it.
Oh man, we sure are proud ofthem.
We sure love them.
Hannah Kerr (37:35):
I love it.
Okay, well, we have a segmentthat is called the Middle Moment
that I would love to do now.
Let's do it.
So, okay, what happens is Ihave this little wheel.
It has lots of topics on it.
This is unbelievable, andyou're going to spin the wheel
and then we're going to talkabout whatever it lands on just
(37:56):
for a few minutes, just to endour time together.
Mike Weaver (37:59):
No way, this is a good, lighthearted way to end or
whatever here.
All right, here we go, allright.
Hannah Kerr (38:05):
Give it a good spin it really goes.
Mike Weaver (38:07):
You have to like kind of dub, some kind of sound
here like I know no dubbingnecessary, that was perfect.
Hannah Kerr (38:16):
Hot take.
Okay, hot take.
Do you know what a hot take is?
Mike Weaver (38:20):
No, you're going to need to explain it to me.
Hannah Kerr (38:22):
It's like an opinion that you have about
something that is unexpected.
I can't think of a single oneright now other than okay, like
if I thought that facebook wasbetter than instagram, or which
would be a hot take because mostpeople think instagram is
better than facebook yes so, uh,if you have a hot take, you can
(38:46):
answer that one, or I wouldlike to uh rig the wheel and
talk about bigfoot I think thatmaybe that could be my hot take
is Bigfoot.
Okay, let's do it.
Mike Weaver (38:59):
That's, that's, that's all Okay.
So I don't want to be that guyor whatever, but it's like I
mean, somebody has been seeingsomething out there, you know
Right.
So what is it?
Hannah Kerr (39:08):
You know what is it .
Mike Weaver (39:09):
And so this is where two things that we've
talked about on the showpotentially collide.
Okay, See see so when we thinkabout the possibility of bigfoot
yeah, and we can kind of yeah,right on the line, right on the
line, because really it's bothof those things, because we both
listen to some podcasts aboutthese kinds of things, which I
(39:29):
never thought that I would belistening to a bigfoot podcast,
but I do listen to a couple.
We do, but I have a theory thatcould Bigfoot really be a
real-life Wookiee?
Okay?
That's what I personally want tobelieve.
Yes, and it's like, since wecan't really get a solid photo
(39:51):
of Bigfoot, then it's like whosays he's not a Wookiee?
Who says and out there in theforest, you're just hearing who
says he's not a Wookiee who saysand out there in the forest
you're just hearing, you know,you're hearing the noise and
it's like, and you're going likeGeorge Lucas, he's out there,
he is.
What if Star Wars is notimaginary?
And what if it's really adocumentary?
That is not what I reallybelieve.
(40:12):
I have to.
I have to be a hot take aboutlike that is not what I really
mean yeah.
That is not really truly what Ibelieve.
Hannah Kerr (40:18):
I feel open to the idea that Bigfoot could be real.
Mike Weaver (40:21):
I want Wookiees to be real.
Hannah Kerr (40:22):
Yeah, well, because if one person okay, think about
this, there are thousands ofaccounts of people seeing
Bigfoot.
Mike Weaver (40:29):
It's true.
Hannah Kerr (40:30):
If just one of them is true, it busts the paradigm.
Mike Weaver (40:34):
That's true's like I've heard that somewhere.
Hannah Kerr (40:36):
I've heard that somewhere, yeah so I just feel
like I'm open to him being real.
Mike Weaver (40:41):
He could be interdimensional, I I don't know
I mean, I think it could bedimensions, and maybe he's in
the middle is what he is in themiddle.
Hannah Kerr (40:49):
That's why he's blurry in this one.
He's not really in that one,and that's he's blurry in all
the pictures because he's in themiddle of two dimensions.
Maybe he actually is pixelated,like that's what he looks like.
Is he's pixelated?
Mike Weaver (41:02):
It's true, like that's what he looks like in
real life.
Hannah Kerr (41:03):
Oh my goodness, it's amazing.
Mike Weaver (41:05):
That is hilarious.
So we had all this meaningfultalk and then we we end on this
foolishness, or whatever so it'sso good.
I love that you have a wheel,though.
That's beautiful.
Hannah Kerr (41:14):
Listen, Amazon can give us a lot of treasures and
Amazon did provide that wheelfor us.
Mike Weaver (41:20):
I'm going home and I love dude, that's probably my
hot take is Amazon Like I don'tknow if you've ever like, just
if you randomly order things onAmazon.
Hannah Kerr (41:30):
Oh, for sure I have ordered.
Mike Weaver (41:31):
I have thought that I was dreaming and I had
packages arrive to my house fromthings that I have ordered in
the middle of the night, from mybunk on the bus that is amazing
.
Hannah Kerr (41:43):
I think that I do order most things in the middle
of the night in the bunk as well, Like that is when it gets me.
I'm like I need to buygenerators right now.
Mike Weaver (41:53):
No doubt about it.
I mean, you just have theburning need and I always want
to get it.
Make sure it's prime, though,because it needs to get here in
two days just two days.
You know it's great now, I'mgonna have a wheel, I'm gonna go
get a wheel you gotta do that'sgonna be the deciding factor in
our family.
Now we're just gonna like allof a sudden well, let's take it
to the wheel and like openthat's so good, mike.
Hannah Kerr (42:14):
Thank you so much for being here thank you so much
for having me.
Mike Weaver (42:17):
This is amazing.
It looks great.
I love hanging out with you.
I can't wait to listen to therest of what you do on this
awesome podcast thanks for beingin the middle of it with us.
Hannah Kerr (42:26):
I love it, mike Weaver, everybody.
I don't think I was mad at God.
I tried that before, I think,and I just found out that it
doesn't really get you anywhere,and so we changed the question
that we were asking as a familynot so much about like why God,
as much as like you know well,god, what is it that you're
doing now?
Hannah Kerr (00:22):
Hey guys, welcome to In the Middle of it.
I'm your host, hannah Kerr.
Today we have a super specialguest.
He is one of my heroes and theysay not to meet your heroes,
but I'm so glad that I not onlymet Mike Weaver, but I know him.
We've been on tour together fortwo years and he's just a dear,
dear friend to me and to Jason.
So please welcome.
(00:43):
The living legend from BigDaddy Weave, mike Weaver.
Mike Weaver (00:47):
That's incredible.
Hey, that's like the best introI ever got.
I think that's like I don'tknow if I can live up to that
through the.
Hannah Kerr (00:53):
You already have lived up to it.
It's amazing.
That's unbelievable.
Mike Weaver (00:56):
When somebody says you're a legend, that really
just means you're getting old.
No, that's not true.
That's awesome.
Hannah Kerr (01:01):
No, I think we do need to settle once and for all
know what I mean?
That's awesome.
No, I think we do need tosettle once and for all, though,
that your name is Mike and it'snot Big Daddy, because I feel
like being out on the road withyou.
It's just like everyone's likehey, big Daddy, and you're like,
you're so sweet.
Mike Weaver (01:13):
For the last better than 20 years we have tried to
convince people of that.
You know, Big Daddy was notreally a person, it was the
group or whatever, but they'rejust kind of like nope Darlene,
that's Big Daddy right there,and so we just whatever you know
, at some point we just changedour mind.
We said well, you know if I?
Hannah Kerr (01:36):
they're like are you Big Daddy Weave?
And I'm like well, that depends.
Does that make you want to buya CD more?
If I am, it's like well then,nice to meet you, bd, we get
your name Big Daddy.
Weave.
You're like okay, here we goagain.
Yeah, we're just like apicture's worth a thousand words
, oh it's so funny, though, thatit was Big Daddy Weave and the
institution.
I love that, but then youdropped the institution.
Mike Weaver (01:57):
Yeah, we scrambled at the end because the label
wasn't liking any of it really,and so we're like well, you come
up with a better name.
And the list of names they gaveus I won't even repeat here.
You know what.
I mean it's like, and so wewere like well, it is kind of
confusing the institution orwhatever.
All right, we'll just be bigdaddy weave, and so ladies and
gentlemen, the moral of thestory is be careful.
What you call your group,that's it.
Hannah Kerr (02:19):
Say a prayer before you name it.
Mike Weaver (02:20):
Say a prayer.
Hannah Kerr (02:21):
No, it's perfect because you've had the name for
25 years now.
You guys have been a band.
Mike Weaver (02:25):
We just last week celebrated 26 years 26 years.
I can't even believe that.
Hannah Kerr (02:31):
Your band is like a full-grown adult that has a
mortgage.
You know what I mean.
It's crazy.
Mike Weaver (02:38):
You definitely understand the mortgage part.
It's coming every month.
Hannah Kerr (02:41):
I love it.
It's amazing, okay, well, thankyou for being on this podcast.
I'm so excited.
Mike Weaver (02:50):
Listen, it is my honor and as much as I mean.
Gosh, you just honored me, butwe love you so much, me and the
rest of Big Daddy Weave Thankyou.
And I'm telling you so.
We have been on the roadtogether five different tours.
Crazy I'm telling you, I'vejust seen the kindness of the
Lord in you.
I've just seen the man you growin the Lord so much.
You and Jason, both we justlove you like you're our family.
And so when you were like I'mstarting a podcast and I was
(03:12):
kind of like dude, I want to beon it.
That was so sweet.
Hannah Kerr (03:15):
And I don't want to be on any podcast.
That's so kind.
Mike Weaver (03:19):
But this is so awesome, man.
I love the look of it, I lovethe feel of it, I love the theme
, I love in the middle, I loveall of that, thank you.
Hannah Kerr (03:25):
That's really kind.
Okay, well, I want to start uswith a game, a little icebreaker
.
I'm sure everyone watching thisprobably knows you, knows who
you are, but I want them to knowyou even better.
Okay, okay, we're going to playlove it, hate it, or if you
feel kind of neutral in themiddle of it.
You see what we did there.
Mike Weaver (03:45):
Okay, yeah, okay.
Hannah Kerr (03:47):
And no explanation necessary, but if you feel led
to give one feel free to explainyourself, okay.
We're starting off easy, MikeChick-fil-A waffle fries Love it
.
Love it.
Yes, do you have a preferenceversus like the, the crunchy
waffley ones, or like the end ofthe potato potato?
Mike Weaver (04:04):
Well, I will say this my daughter Naomi actually
so she eats all has a diet basedalmost exclusively on
chick-fil-A waffle fries, and soshe.
But when she comes to the endof them, you know, um, then
she's like daddy, this one's foryou.
You know, and so I give you Iget those the most, but I love
all of them.
(04:24):
I'm an equal opportunity wafflefry eater.
Hannah Kerr (04:27):
I love it.
That's great.
Jason likes the end of thewaffle fry, I like the crunchy
ones, so we're like a perfectpair you know what I mean?
Mike Weaver (04:33):
It is that's perfect.
You guys were made for eachother.
Hannah Kerr (04:35):
We were made for each other, and that's just
another reason to add to thelist Star Wars.
Oh, love it.
I knew that about you.
I was just throwing that inthere for you when I was one
year old, star Wars came outright.
Wow.
Mike Weaver (04:49):
And so my dad.
So this is back in drive-inmovie theater days or whatever,
and my dad said that literallyhe pulled up to the drive-in
movie theater, the movie starts,my mom instantly falls asleep
and I'm standing in between themon the front seat and he said
my one year old hand was on hisshoulder and I watched
unflinchingly the entire movieand I've been a lifelong fan,
(05:12):
ever since.
Hannah Kerr (05:13):
It just had you from that first moment it did
you had me from like this.
Mike Weaver (05:17):
Yeah, that was, that was excellent, thank you I
feel like we both just did ourbest work.
So good.
Hannah Kerr (05:22):
OK, next heavy metal music.
Mike Weaver (05:25):
Love it.
You do, I do.
I didn't know that about you, Imean as a singer of a Christian
AC group or whatever.
Hannah Kerr (05:31):
I know I'm like Big Daddy Weave is so similar to
that.
Mike Weaver (05:33):
Yeah, not very much but I love it.
But I actually love all kindsof music, a really good version
of whatever that genre is yep, Ilove.
Hannah Kerr (05:42):
It okay, good to know.
Pineapple on pizza pineapple.
Mike Weaver (05:46):
Pineapple on pizza.
It's in.
I'm in the middle in the okay,because I don't know that I
would order it, but I've alsolike, I really love sushi also
and so I would I've orderedpineapple in sushi, okay.
So like I think that you know II'm okay with that.
I've wound up in some placeswhere it's like all they have is
the pineapple kind and I ate itand I was like that that's not
too bad.
Hannah Kerr (06:07):
It's not too bad.
We just had pizza togetherrecently with our, with our
families and we didn't havepineapple on any of those pizzas
None of those pizzas.
So that's what made me think ofit.
I was like maybe he's a hater.
Mike Weaver (06:16):
Yeah, and I was not .
I was not hating, it's great.
What do you think aboutpineapple?
Hannah Kerr (06:23):
I love it.
It's one of my favoritetoppings.
Mike Weaver (06:24):
I should have ordered.
That was my bad.
No, that was my bad.
Hannah Kerr (06:27):
I do not discriminate on toppings.
In general I like all of them.
Mike Weaver (06:31):
We would have had pineapple on a gluten-free crust
pizza.
Yeah, on a gluten-free crust.
Hannah Kerr (06:36):
I love it.
Okay, good to know.
Okay, next pickleball,pickleball, love it yeah.
Not very good at it, me eitherit is not a strength of mine in
the lord, but I do enjoy it.
I do like it.
Dude jason rules at pickleball.
Mike Weaver (06:51):
He rules at it, it's he and my son elok could
kind of have a good match, Ithink.
Hannah Kerr (06:54):
So it's like yeah, we, we can watch and drink our
route 44 sonic drinks and justwatch.
That's exactly right.
That's right.
That's an important thing tohave while you're playing
pickleball.
Mike Weaver (07:04):
Yeah, route 44, route 44 size.
Hannah Kerr (07:06):
Oh, you say route.
Is that the right way to say?
Mike Weaver (07:09):
it.
You're probably saying it right.
Hannah Kerr (07:10):
Oh, I have no idea what's in your route 44?
Like, what do you get fromSonic?
Mike Weaver (07:14):
Man, I would get something zero.
You know what I mean.
So either water or Coke zero orsome kind of you know it's got
zero.
Hannah Kerr (07:22):
I love it.
That's great Okay.
Next is Crocs.
Mike Weaver (07:26):
Crocs.
Hannah Kerr (07:26):
Yes, I love them actually, me too.
Mike Weaver (07:28):
They.
I don't.
I don't love how they look, butI love how they feel.
Hannah Kerr (07:32):
I feel like they understand me.
You know what I mean.
Mike Weaver (07:34):
It's like big daddies have a certain you know,
kind of a level of comfort thatwe are accustomed to, and Crocs
are kind of like walking onlittle clouds or something.
Hannah Kerr (07:44):
That's right.
Do you have any?
Do you have Crocs?
Mike Weaver (07:54):
I have.
I have one current pair ofCrocs.
I usually wear Crocs until theylike there's no tread of any
kind on the bottom, and then youlike go out on a rainy day and
do like the Scooby-Doo likething and like injure yourself
and then say to myself, I'mnever going to wear Crocs again
until I go oh, those look reallycomfy.
Hannah Kerr (08:08):
And then do the whole thing again.
Do you have any of the littlewhat are they called Gibbets
that you put in?
Put inside the little holes.
Mike Weaver (08:13):
I don't, I didn't, I don't have any of that I have
a Christmas present for you?
Hannah Kerr (08:17):
Oh, just get you some gib.
Okay, all right, board games,is it really?
Mike Weaver (08:22):
called gibbets.
Hannah Kerr (08:23):
I don't know.
I said that yesterday.
I was like, is it giblets?
And then I was like I don'tthink it's giblets.
Mike Weaver (08:29):
I don't think so.
I think it's gibbets.
All right, sorry Board games,board games.
Hannah Kerr (08:33):
Do you like games?
Mike Weaver (08:34):
Not so much.
Hannah Kerr (08:35):
Okay, it's a about that for you.
With this game I was like MikeWeaver is going to have a hard
time saying he hates anything,because you're just so kind.
Mike Weaver (08:46):
Because the greatest of these is love.
The greatest of these is love.
Hannah Kerr (08:50):
But you're not hurting the game of life's
feelings, so it's okay, that'strue.
Mike Weaver (08:55):
My wife Candice lives to play games Does she.
And she's the nicest personever, until we play games.
Hannah Kerr (09:02):
You know what I'm saying?
Mike Weaver (09:02):
She's competitive, she is so competitive, and if
she plays games with her sistersshe has three other sisters.
That is like I have to go toanother room, you know what I
mean, and so so I don't know,man, I can be coaxed into
playing a game, but I'm doing itbecause I love somebody else.
Hannah Kerr (09:18):
Okay, it's not a love that comes from you, I got
it.
Okay, three snow.
Mike Weaver (09:24):
Yes, well, I love the cold.
Okay, snow is problem.
I love looking at snow, love it, yes, being in snow.
You love being in the middle ofsnow trapped in snow, not that
is not so much.
Hannah Kerr (09:37):
Yes, okay, okay, yes, yes, yes, I love it and
you're you're not from the snowyplace, so no, yes, no, no, no
love it.
Love it Okay, sleeping on atour bus.
Mike Weaver (09:45):
Sleeping on a tour bus Love it.
Hannah Kerr (09:47):
Do you, do you, sleep well on the bus?
Mike Weaver (09:49):
I sleep like I sleep at home, on the tour bus,
oh, that's amazing.
I don't know what it is, but ifwe stop then I don't sleep as
well.
I sleep when we're moving.
The keyboard player for BigDaddy Weave drives the bus for
us and he is potentially thegreatest driver that we've ever
had because he knows what itfeels like to be thrown about
back there.
(10:09):
So he drives amazingly, and sowhen I get in there I catch up
on my sleep on the road it'sreally good.
Hannah Kerr (10:15):
That's amazing.
Mike Weaver (10:15):
I'm happy for you in that way, do you have a rough
time?
Hannah Kerr (10:18):
Yeah, I'm a pretty light sleeper so I struggle on
the bus a good bit, but I mean,I feel like I've gotten used to
it over the years.
Mike Weaver (10:24):
How does?
Hannah Kerr (10:25):
Jason do.
He's a perfect sleeper.
He sleeps like a baby on thebus.
Mike Weaver (10:29):
That's awesome.
Like a baby.
Hannah Kerr (10:30):
Like a baby, which I don't know if that's a really
good phrase, because babiesdon't sleep much.
Mike Weaver (10:33):
It's true.
They're waking up every fewhours.
He sleeps like a husband.
You know what I mean.
Like, just not a care in theworld.
So.
Hannah Kerr (10:43):
I love that for him .
He gets great sleep on the road.
Mike Weaver (10:45):
Oh man.
So what do you need tocompensate for it then?
Do you have to take somethingto try to go to sleep?
Hannah Kerr (10:50):
I wear earplugs and that helps, and then I really
just let myself wake up and justsay it's okay to wake up right
now, I'm just going to go backto sleep.
So I do talk to God a lot onthe bus.
I'm like, hey God, it's me,hannah Again.
Mike Weaver (11:06):
Uh please help me to sleep right now, God so the
more I overthink it, though, theless I sleep.
So yeah, anyways, okay, lastone, yep, all right, coffee,
coffee.
I love it when it's heavilymedicated.
Hannah Kerr (11:18):
Okay.
Mike Weaver (11:18):
Not medicated, but uh, sweetened yeah.
Hannah Kerr (11:22):
I that sound bite.
Mike Weaver canceled, yeah,canceled when it's heavily
medicated.
Mike Weaver (11:27):
Yeah, when I pour all of that alcohol in my?
Yeah, not that at all.
Not that at all Alcohol.
Hannah Kerr (11:33):
Not a big fan.
Yeah, hate it, yeah great.
Mike Weaver (11:35):
Just the taste of it.
Not judging anybody, but it'slike I'm not the natural born
coffee drinker.
Yeah, I'm the natural bornKool-Aid Now that is like a
natural born Kool-Aid drinker,that's great.
So it's like something thattastes like candy.
Hannah Kerr (11:50):
I can drink that.
What's in your mug right now?
What are you drinking?
Mike Weaver (11:54):
This is Body Armor Zero.
Okay, because diabetes is real.
Hannah Kerr (11:58):
Okay, that's like you got to get it together the
zero.
Mike Weaver (12:01):
Yeah, so we keep it on the zero level, but I find
that to be a delicious sweetdrink to drink.
Hannah Kerr (12:06):
Just a little treat .
So it's great I have water inmine.
It's not very exciting.
Mike Weaver (12:09):
You do.
Hannah Kerr (12:10):
I thought you would have had coffee in there, Well
I actually had coffee earliertoday and I did have to cut
myself off Because, yeah.
Mike Weaver (12:16):
What is the most amount of coffee you've ever
drank in one day?
Hannah Kerr (12:20):
I mean not a ton, if I have like two lattes in a
day.
When you think about that,that's like three shots of
espresso in each latte and thatis a lot of coffee.
But I start to get anxious if Ihave too much coffee.
I already struggle with anxiety.
So if you add caffeine too muchI start to get a little jittery
.
Mike Weaver (12:36):
Too much, too much yes.
Hannah Kerr (12:38):
Okay, Well, that was love it hate it in the
middle of it.
Mike Weaver (12:42):
You did great.
Thank you, that was awesome,that was so fun.
Yeah, thanks for your answers,and I don't even like games.
Like I told you, this is great,but it was beautiful.
No, I love it.
Hannah Kerr (12:46):
It's just a little segment, I love it Okay well,
let's get into it.
This podcast is called In theMiddle of.
Mike Weaver (12:53):
It.
Hannah Kerr (13:05):
We talk about just being easy to say like I went
through this thing and I'm overit now and God's good, and if
that's your story, praise theLord.
But I just think a lot ofpeople are in the middle of
something that they don't knowhow it's going to turn out.
And um, it's okay to live inthat tension and I feel like
just being on the road with youand just watching you um be in
the middle of it, be in themiddle of grief and loss.
And um, and just the way thatyou've navigated it has been.
It's just witnessed to me a lotabout what it looks like to
(13:30):
love Jesus and to deal withthings that are really difficult
and to still have your faith inthe middle of that.
So I'd love to talk about that,just what you're in the middle
of right now, and we can just gowherever the Spirit leads.
Mike Weaver (13:41):
Yeah, you know, my little brother Jay was the hub
in the middle of the wheel leads.
Yeah, you know, um, uh, mylittle brother Jay was uh the
hub in the middle of the wheelof big daddy.
He was the bass player and towatch us from stage you would
not know that.
It's like he had all of thethings come across his plate
that he would you know?
Hannah Kerr (13:59):
Yeah.
Mike Weaver (13:59):
Um and, but we were best friends and we uh, and you
know he's my little brother,but he always sort of functioned
like the big brother in a way.
Like he was always kind of thehero in a way and man.
So we played music together inBig Daddy.
We grew up together in on theGulf Coast of Florida and then I
(14:21):
went to the University ofMobile and met the rest of the
guys in Big Daddy Weave.
Hannah Kerr (14:24):
So cool.
Mike Weaver (14:25):
He never went to school there, but he was always
tagging along, you know, and umand so when, when that happened
26 years ago, I mean it was just, it was off to the races and it
was the stuff that jay and Ihad always dreamed about.
We love music, we love playingmusic, we're playing music
together, writing music together, like all all of those of those
things.
Um, and then.
(14:45):
So when that happened, that wasreally his passion.
He was, he was a leader in that, for sure.
You know, um, man, at some uhkind of a little ways into the
group.
Uh, big Daddy Weave, you know,uh was just kind of at a, a low
point or something, or we werejust going through a weird
season.
We were in the middle of aweird season right, yeah, yeah.
(15:06):
And we began to cry out to theLord and then just sort of make
ourselves available to Him in adifferent way.
And then God began to move atthe shows in just a significant
way.
Jay had always been like areally fun guy.
Hannah Kerr (15:21):
Yeah.
Mike Weaver (15:22):
But then something really happened in his life too
where not just on the busbecause he couldn't sleep, but
the Lord began to wake him up atlike three and 4am in the
morning and he would just getthese downloads from God and the
stuff he would share.
I'm like Jay, I know you and Iknow you couldn't come up with
that you know, and so then, man,we just started like there's a
shift in the shows when we beganto end the shows every night,
(15:45):
where we're just like prayingfor people, and we just began to
see God move in the miraculous,and it was incredible.
And so for probably about sevenyears straight, man, we just
saw, night after night, god pourout in such a special way.
We saw physical sickness healed.
We saw emotional you knowphysical sickness you know
(16:05):
healed.
We saw emotional damage, youknow, be restored, you know.
We saw chains of addictionbreak, you know, and it was on a
nightly basis, it was.
It became very rare that insome day of our life that we did
not hear the testimony of theLord coming in about what he had
done.
Hannah Kerr (16:22):
Yeah, yeah, it was amazing.
When was that?
When did that kind of start?
Mike Weaver (16:26):
So this was, this was probably I'm looking at our
manager, jim, right now probablyabout 2011, 2010 or 2011.
Yeah, and and so, um, man, I'mtelling you, and then all the
things that God was doing beganto like fuel the songs that we
were writing and fuel thedirection that we were heading
(16:47):
in, and all of that stuff yeah.
And my brother had always hadsome health issues, but then in
the middle of of that season ofincredible miracles, those
issues began to worsen and hewas diabetic and it was kind of
this other thing that I neverreally understood.
But it's like when you go to adoctor and then the doctor
(17:08):
treats this, but then, thismesses this up, and so we're
trying to treat this and it'sthis sort of like chasing your
tail kind of like thing thathappens or whatever.
And we watched my brother gothrough this and at one point,
literally to save his life,doctors had to amputate both of
his feet and we didn't know ifhe could come back from that and
(17:28):
be in the group anymore.
But he did and he came back outand it was as powerful or more
afterwards and before, prayingfor people every night, seeing
God do miracles in the lives ofcomplete strangers, that Jay
needed in his own body which.
I don't understand to this day.
Hannah Kerr (17:44):
Honestly, I know it's like how do we live in that
tension of when we're prayingfor something and God does it,
but then sometimes he doesn't?
You know but I've heard youtestify that, jay just His faith
was so beautiful in that timeof just praying for people, not
seeing it in his own body, butseeing miracles happen for
someone that he needed.
Mike Weaver (18:06):
Yeah.
Hannah Kerr (18:06):
And then never being bitter about it.
Mike Weaver (18:09):
Yes, that was a different kind of miracle.
Hannah Kerr (18:12):
Yeah.
Mike Weaver (18:13):
You know, because there's I mean there's physical
miracles, but then there's manyother miracles.
The greatest miracle of all issomething that maybe you don't
see on the outside at first.
It's the change of our hearts.
When Jesus comes to live there,you know, and so, man, when we
just thought he had been throughso much, we just thought we had
(18:33):
him for a lot longer on thisplanet than we did.
At one point, his health got tothe point where he couldn't be
on the road anymore.
That almost killed him byitself, because he lived to go
and do that.
You know, he just loved everypart of it.
And so, um, man, at thebeginning of uh 2022, january
2nd 2022, I got the mostterrible phone call and Jay had
(18:53):
gone into the hospital, uh, overover just right after Christmas
, and it's like we couldn't hearanything from him and his
health had just declined in sucha way and actually I heard my
little brother on that phonecall take his last breath.
And when that happened, um, tome, a lot, a lot of stuff just
(19:17):
fell apart.
Yeah, um, in recent yearsbefore that, my dad, who was our
hero I mean, he's an incredibleman of God went to be with
Jesus on Christmas day 2017, in2021.
My mom, who was never reallyherself again, much after he had
passed um, went to be withJesus in 2021, just right after
(19:39):
mother's day and man, and, andthen this you know, and then Jay
went home and I was kind oflike I don't even know if I know
who I am you know, without them, you know this little family
that I had grown up with waskind of um this, stabilizing you
know place in my life you know,and I and I was just, I was
(20:02):
just so broken over it, you know.
Hannah Kerr (20:05):
Yeah, To lose your best friend, your brother.
You didn't know, Big DaddyWeaver, the road without him,
and he had just, you know,started this legacy of faith and
prayer and ministry.
And you guys were in ittogether, you were partners, you
know.
But, um, I, how, how has itbeen to be on the road without
(20:27):
him?
How do you live in that tensionof missing him and continuing
to do what you know God's calledyou to do?
How do you, how do you do that?
Mike Weaver (20:36):
It is.
When you say tension, that'swhat it really is for me, cause
it took this thing that had beena home to me for so long and
then, without him there, when Ilook around to see it, this
thing that I loved without himthere, it kind of just hurts.
You know, like it's not what itwas to me in that way, but I
love the kindness of the Lordbecause he.
Let me see the miracles first.
Hannah Kerr (20:57):
Yeah.
Mike Weaver (20:58):
And so it's like in my heart it's already
established that he is good andhe has good in mind for those
who love Him and just forhumanity in general.
But something changed in mebecause, man, when we would pray
for people, we just knew it wasgoing to happen and we would
(21:19):
pray like it was alreadyhappening.
Hebrews talks about that faithis being certain of what we hope
for.
We would pray in that way.
And when Jay passed,specifically, I know that when I
would pray, all of a sudden,when I would get to the end,
there would.
It was almost like I would pullthe punch.
Hannah Kerr (21:37):
You know what I mean.
Mike Weaver (21:39):
But in the that, uh , I feel like the Lord was
revealing to me that the thingsthat I love about the miracles
was kind of this thing thatwasn't very, uh, healthy.
In a way, too, it was like whenyou see God do so much, there's
this thing where you almoststart feeling like you kind of
got God on a leash.
Wow, and, by the way, that'snot the case, right.
(22:01):
Right you know the sovereigntyof God is real.
He's God, almighty.
There's only one there's onlyone who is, you know, and it's
him and I, you know, I spent alot of time at first after my,
my dad and my mom and Jay passed, really just wanting to know
why, and it felt like I wasbeating my head against a brick
(22:23):
wall you know, but then you know, after you exhaust yourself
being that I don't think I wasmad at God, I've I tried that
before, I think, and I justfound out that it doesn't really
get you anywhere.
But when I'm not getting theseanswers, it's, it's a
frustrating thing you know, andso we changed the question that
(22:45):
we were asking as a family mylittle family not so much about
like why God, as much as likeyou know well, god, what is it
that you're doing?
Hannah Kerr (22:56):
now.
Mike Weaver (22:57):
And I'm telling you , if you're not seeing him heal,
you may be seeing him like,just, hold you.
You may, just, you may just seehim providing in some other way
.
You know, because he is amultifaceted God and I do
believe he's a God who heals andI believe you can pray in
confidence, but you can alsotake your hands off of what
(23:19):
happens, because you're not Godyou know, and just rest in the
fact that you know, if you'renot seeing it today, then he's
not done with it yet and we cantrust the fact that he really is
good, because we we have seenhis heart displayed in other
parts of our life.
Yeah, yeah.
Hannah Kerr (23:36):
And I think, something that I've been
thinking about a lot just beingon the road and seeing miracles
and seeing God move is justchecking in my own heart that
I'm not loving the work of Godmore than I'm loving God.
Mike Weaver (23:49):
Oh, my gosh, hannah , you know.
Hannah Kerr (23:51):
I think it's a tension to be like, okay, I'm
seeing this amazing thing, but Ilove you, God If I never see
another thing, if I never youknow, I've just been praying
through that and just makingsure that my heart is for him.
Mike Weaver (24:06):
It's so good.
Hannah Kerr (24:07):
Wanting him more than the miracle, and I even
think about that, with youlosing your family like just
your closest people.
And what does it look like whenthat is taken away?
And God is your support.
God is who you lean on, likeyou don't have a choice, you
know.
Mike Weaver (24:25):
Yeah, I was left with all these like unanswered
questions, yeah, but still hewas there, you know, yeah, and I
, you know that's incredible tome and what you just described
is, I think, what happened in me.
The very first night we everprayed for anybody in the show
in the way that we kind of movedinto.
I was in the bathroom washingmy hands before we were going to
(24:49):
go out and start the show, andI heard, as clear as a bell, the
voice of the Holy Spirit justsay there's people out there
tonight that can't have children, and you just need to let them
know.
I haven't forgotten about them.
Right and I'm like for real,like in the bathroom you know,
like what's the I'm washing myhands?
Hannah Kerr (25:06):
Yeah, totally, you know.
Mike Weaver (25:09):
And so we just said that, and there were three of
them, and for months after that,as the Lord would give us these
little downloads, there wouldbe three of them, but in the
beauty of the entire thing wasjust learning how to hear him
and walk with him, you know,then you begin to see the
miracles, though, and you'rejust like, ooh, I want to see
(25:30):
you one up that one and I waswondering because you know
there's not really a recordedcase.
I mean, there's a place thatsaid Jesus didn't do many
miracles in a certain place, butthere's not a recorded case of
where Jesus prays for somebodyand then nothing happens.
Hannah Kerr (25:44):
Right.
Mike Weaver (25:45):
Right, right.
And so I was just like well,that's because every time you
pray for somebody, somebody issomebody, is just supposed to
get healed every time.
You know what I mean.
But really I think his trackrecord came from this Jesus says
this to Philip Philip goes well.
Why don't you show us thefather and?
And?
Jesus goes well.
Why don't you show us theFather and Jesus?
Hannah Kerr (26:04):
goes.
Mike Weaver (26:04):
Philip, if you saw me, you saw the Father, because
I don't do anything that theFather's not doing.
I only do what I see the Fatherdo.
Right, he's only in thisintimate place with the Father
and he's only operating out ofthat.
And because when you get God,you get everything else, what's
the Ben Fuller song right now?
It's like if I got Jesus, I goteverything.
Hannah Kerr (26:26):
I got everything I'll ever need.
That's the thing.
Mike Weaver (26:28):
All the miracles come with Jesus, but I'm telling
you, you can make a God out ofthe miracles, and that is not
what Jesus wants.
Hannah Kerr (26:37):
It's so cool to hear about just that season of
Big Daddy Weaves ministry justbeing so rich with the presence
of God, with miracles, and howhave you seen that legacy that
Jay has started?
How have you seen that continueeven after he's left, even
today in Big Daddy Weavesministry?
Mike Weaver (26:57):
I think there's a shift in our purpose.
There wasn't always this muchgray in the beard.
Hannah Kerr (27:04):
I don't see any.
There's like so much.
Mike Weaver (27:06):
It's like but and you know what I mean it's like
at some point we're going to begranddaddy weave here.
You know what I mean.
But the thing the thing is isthat you know we were going out
and we were doing this stuff fora long time time, but one of
the first places that I reallyexperienced joy again after Jay
was here, was honestly seeingyou and Jason praying for people
(27:35):
.
And then it dawned on me, Ithink my purpose in this whole
thing has changed that.
My delight is seeing my kids getJesus in a real way.
My son, eli, is down therepraying for people every night.
And seeing him learn and seeinghim learn how to hear from God
Again.
You're not just going for thisevent, you want to walk with the
Lord.
We want to flow with the Lord,like, what are you doing?
(27:57):
You know when we began to sayit and instead of asking why, we
began to ask the question God,what are you doing?
All the answers shows up soquickly and usually he's not
pointing here, he's pointingsomewhere where you, literally
you know cause I, where I'vefound the most sense of healing,
uh, is when I'm not thinkingabout me so much.
(28:19):
You know what I mean.
Yeah, it just dawns on me thatI'm consumed with my own pain or
whatever, my own situation.
Hannah Kerr (28:27):
Yeah.
Mike Weaver (28:27):
When the Lord is going like.
Let me show you how to have joyLike our pastors share, like
the acronym of joy.
You know, you said Jesus,others and you.
Hannah Kerr (28:36):
Yeah.
Mike Weaver (28:37):
Right, pastors share like the acronym of joy.
You know, you said jesus,others and you yeah, right, and
so that's a and that thingseeing the lord move in you guys
, seeing, I mean, you guys growin the lord man.
Hannah, you are one of the mostcompassionate people I've ever
known.
Like I, when I see you down andyou're ministering to people,
I've seen people who are sobrokenhearted come straight to
you because it's like they cansee it on you, you know, and you
(28:58):
just literally just hug theminto the love of God, into the
presence of God.
You know, it's so good man andit's amazing that your awesome
husband, his, name is Jason.
Yeah, because we call my brotherJay or Jay Dog, but his name's
Jason.
Hannah Kerr (29:13):
Yeah.
Mike Weaver (29:14):
And it means one who heals actually J-Dog, but
his name's Jason.
And it means one who healsactually.
And so when I met Jason, whohad also been through
significant loss, in his lifeand recent loss in his life.
We kind of bonded over that alittle bit.
But, man, there was thisopenness in him to step out into
new places in the Lord and hebegan to pray for people.
(29:35):
And so I'll share a story thatI've been sharing in the shows
because I love it.
It's so good, man, you know.
So we were in I don't know whatthe town was, we were in, we
were in maybe Nebraska orsomeplace like that, and Jason
was walking through thesanctuary before the show of the
(29:56):
little church we were playingat and he sees a man who the
Lord puts on his heart.
He's watching what the father'sdoing, right, and he goes and
he asked the man.
He said, man, is there anythingI can pray for you about?
And at first the guy is like no, and the guy shares this with
us.
Later he says, man, I have thisthing with my back, but I don't
(30:17):
want to tell him because he'slike I'm scared.
He's going to pray and nothing'sgoing to happen.
Hannah Kerr (30:20):
Right.
Mike Weaver (30:21):
And so he denies it as long as he can, but Jason
won't let go because he's he'swatching the father, right.
And so finally the guy says,well, there's this thing with my
back.
And what the story was is like,however, long before ago the
man had fallen off a tallextension ladder, had two
bulging discs in his back, wasin terrible pain, was actually
(30:42):
on the books with a surgeon tohave the operation for it and
all this stuff.
And he's sitting at the showthat night in pain but doesn't
want to say it.
And finally says it and Jasonprays and then all of the pain
leaves his back right and he'slike oh, you know and you're
thinking like, well, but it'sprobably coming back right and
(31:03):
it never does.
He goes in for the surgery onlyto find out man, are you messing
with us?
Dude, there's nothing wrongwith this.
Like the Lord had completelyhealed the discs in his back.
Hannah Kerr (31:13):
He just healed his back right and they had the
proof of this?
Yes, Cause they already scannedit.
Mike Weaver (31:17):
They already had him lined up for surgery and all
of that stuff.
So then the guy comes back tothe show and is just in his
saying all this stuff, you know,and he's like man.
And so we give him themicrophone, he testifies like
man.
The Lord healed my back, and soit's crazy.
Then a couple of times on theroad I keep looking at Jason,
who is like off screen.
Hannah Kerr (31:37):
Yeah, he's over there, you guys, because this is
just real stuff to me, man.
Mike Weaver (31:41):
This is life to me right now the story of this I'm
telling you, and so the guyshares, and then everybody comes
down in front at the end topray.
Three more people who have discissues in their back come down
and leave with no pain.
Hannah Kerr (31:56):
They didn't come back with the other testimonies
yet, but it's like the Lord ismoving, you know.
And there's something whenpeople hear a testimony like oh,
I have that issue and maybe Godcould do that for me.
Like it almost like, rises uptheir faith to hear a story of
someone else.
That received healing forsomething they need.
Mike Weaver (32:15):
And you know who needs to hear that the most is
that story is somebody who's inthe middle.
Hannah Kerr (32:21):
Yeah.
Mike Weaver (32:22):
Somebody who's in the middle of it that's where
the enemy wants to show up Inthe middle sometimes is kind of
at a low point, right, you know.
And the enemy wants to tellpeople he wants to say, look,
the low point is the end of itfor you, right, you know?
And and.
But the devil's a liar, right,you know?
And, and that's what I love islike, even this story with jay,
when jay died, there's thisthing.
(32:43):
The enemy's telling me it'sover, yeah, it's over.
How can you ever even believeme for a miracle again in jesus?
How can you believe god for amiracle again?
You know, when you know this,the people you wanted it for the
most.
That didn't happen to you andI'm and I didn't have an answer
to that question, but it reallyhurt my hope you know yeah.
(33:03):
And, man, the fact that thisyoung man named Jason shows up,
and I just see God doing it allagain, and but doing it
different, doing it in a waythat's unique to you guys and I.
Hannah Kerr (33:13):
I just I love that that's who he is, and it's a.
It's a hope builder for me, man, and it's a.
It's a.
It's a restoring, restoringwork that God is doing in me.
Yeah, yeah, it's been so sweet.
I've loved watching you and my,my Jason, just really connect,
and we've just learned so muchabout how to pray for miracles,
about what it looks like to havefaith for miracles.
(33:35):
Um, it's just been the bestexperience we were talking about
it earlier of just.
It's been life-changing for usto just watch God move and to
learn from you guys how to evenbe open to that, like I didn't
grow up in a faith traditionwhere we prayed for miracles,
you know.
So it's just been so cool.
I wish that I could have metJay.
I just hear all these storiesand we came on the road with you
(33:56):
guys right after.
I think the first tour backafter he passed away was the one
that we came on and I love thatit was called the only the
beginning tour, like it's just,it's the beginning of a new
season that God has you in, andit felt like a new season for us
too of just operating in thisnew way with God, of just
(34:16):
believing him for more in ourlives, and that's just been
really, really cool.
I'm just grateful for that.
Mike Weaver (34:21):
Yeah, Hannah, I really and truly believe in my
heart that the Lord has suchhuge things for you guys you
know, and I know that I'm justgoing to enjoy watching what he
does with you.
You know it's my favorite.
I love it.
Hannah Kerr (34:34):
It's so cool and I want to talk about your family a
little bit more just, um,watching your kids now kind of
pick up the mantle that you'vebeen carrying and just watching
them lead worship.
I got to see, uh, naomi, yourdaughter, she's 13.
Yeah, I got to see her leadworship a couple of times and
she's just so anointed, she's sogifted.
And watching Eli pray forpeople every night and watching
(34:57):
Zeke like just play does he playbass?
Like just watching you and yourkids lead worship together.
What is that like for you, astheir dad, to just watch them
grow up.
Mike Weaver (35:05):
That is the next level for me, man.
That is the next level.
That is the place.
My place of greatest peace isjust being with them.
Man, I'm married so far out ofmy league.
Candace are amazing, I know,because they've had a lot of
prayer, but but also they're soamazing because of who their
mama is too, man and she's beenlike this constant in their life
(35:28):
.
You know I'm going on the road.
Sometimes they're getting tocome on the road, that kind of
stuff.
But, you know and so, but I andI, I feel a sense of resolve and
a sense of purpose in big daddyweave, um, but I also have this
huge love, uh, for getting tolead worship with my kids yeah
because I love seeing every it'slike.
Every time I feel like theygrow in it, like with an
(35:49):
exponent you know, yeah, yeahand I love hearing eli ask these
questions.
he's the oldest one and he, hehas these questions about
ministry and about life and he,he's like a he just he burns
that people would come to knowthe Lord.
You know, I'm like I don't knowa lot of other 17 year olds
that were like that you knowhe's a man of God at 17.
Hannah Kerr (36:07):
Like legitimately.
Yeah, I look up to him in someways my son, you know, and like
only Jesus can do that, man so.
Mike Weaver (36:15):
I love all of them, man, they're, they're, they're
so special.
I mean, obviously, causethey're my family, but I just,
you know, I'm so grateful forthem and that's the place of
greatest ministry, like to me,is is with them.
Hannah Kerr (36:27):
It's so sweet.
I'm not a part of your family,but I am proud of them, like I
am their family.
Mike Weaver (36:32):
You kind of are, though you know what I mean they
, you kind of are, though youknow what I mean.
Hannah Kerr (36:34):
I mean, I feel like I've just watched them, even in
the past few years, just matureand grow so much and like I
look up to Eli as well just hisfaith and the way that he loves
the Lord and trusts him andbelieves for miracles from him
Like it's been amazing he's seenblind eyes healed, like right
before his.
Like it's just, it's beenamazing.
And then Naomi, just her voiceis such a gift and it's just
it's been amazing.
Mike Weaver (36:54):
And then Naomi, just her voice is such a gift
and it's ministered to me likejust listening to her sing, and
likewise because I know that manNaomi, two of her very favorite
people in the entire world, shereally looks up to you and she
really looks up to McKenna Johnsfrom the Young Escape, but you
guys are kind of besties.
And so man that's, I'm tellingyou, she just thinks the world
of you two.
And so, man, that's, I'mtelling you, she just thinks the
(37:14):
world of you two.
And I'm so glad those are thekind of role models that she has
.
Hannah Kerr (37:19):
That's so sweet.
I can't wait to see what all ofyour kids do as they keep
growing and just it's so cool.
It's a testament to you andCandice both just the way that
you followed the Lord, that theyare after the Lord now too,
Like it's just, it's so sweet.
Mike Weaver (37:33):
Thanks for saying it.
Oh man, we sure are proud ofthem.
We sure love them.
Hannah Kerr (37:35):
I love it.
Okay, well, we have a segmentthat is called the Middle Moment
that I would love to do now.
Let's do it.
So, okay, what happens is Ihave this little wheel.
It has lots of topics on it.
This is unbelievable, andyou're going to spin the wheel
and then we're going to talkabout whatever it lands on just
(37:56):
for a few minutes, just to endour time together.
Mike Weaver (37:59):
No way, this is a good, lighthearted way to end or
whatever here.
All right, here we go, allright.
Hannah Kerr (38:05):
Give it a good spin it really goes.
Mike Weaver (38:07):
You have to like kind of dub, some kind of sound
here like I know no dubbingnecessary, that was perfect.
Hannah Kerr (38:16):
Hot take.
Okay, hot take.
Do you know what a hot take is?
Mike Weaver (38:20):
No, you're going to need to explain it to me.
Hannah Kerr (38:22):
It's like an opinion that you have about
something that is unexpected.
I can't think of a single oneright now other than okay, like
if I thought that facebook wasbetter than instagram, or which
would be a hot take because mostpeople think instagram is
better than facebook yes so, uh,if you have a hot take, you can
(38:46):
answer that one, or I wouldlike to uh rig the wheel and
talk about bigfoot I think thatmaybe that could be my hot take
is Bigfoot.
Okay, let's do it.
Mike Weaver (38:59):
That's, that's, that's all Okay.
So I don't want to be that guyor whatever, but it's like I
mean, somebody has been seeingsomething out there, you know
Right.
So what is it?
Hannah Kerr (39:08):
You know what is it .
Mike Weaver (39:09):
And so this is where two things that we've
talked about on the showpotentially collide.
Okay, See see so when we thinkabout the possibility of bigfoot
yeah, and we can kind of yeah,right on the line, right on the
line, because really it's bothof those things, because we both
listen to some podcasts aboutthese kinds of things, which I
(39:29):
never thought that I would belistening to a bigfoot podcast,
but I do listen to a couple.
We do, but I have a theory thatcould Bigfoot really be a
real-life Wookiee?
Okay?
That's what I personally want tobelieve.
Yes, and it's like, since wecan't really get a solid photo
(39:51):
of Bigfoot, then it's like whosays he's not a Wookiee?
Who says and out there in theforest, you're just hearing who
says he's not a Wookiee who saysand out there in the forest
you're just hearing, you know,you're hearing the noise and
it's like, and you're going likeGeorge Lucas, he's out there,
he is.
What if Star Wars is notimaginary?
And what if it's really adocumentary?
That is not what I reallybelieve.
(40:12):
I have to.
I have to be a hot take aboutlike that is not what I really
mean yeah.
That is not really truly what Ibelieve.
Hannah Kerr (40:18):
I feel open to the idea that Bigfoot could be real.
Mike Weaver (40:21):
I want Wookiees to be real.
Hannah Kerr (40:22):
Yeah, well, because if one person okay, think about
this, there are thousands ofaccounts of people seeing
Bigfoot.
Mike Weaver (40:29):
It's true.
Hannah Kerr (40:30):
If just one of them is true, it busts the paradigm.
Mike Weaver (40:34):
That's true's like I've heard that somewhere.
Hannah Kerr (40:36):
I've heard that somewhere, yeah so I just feel
like I'm open to him being real.
Mike Weaver (40:41):
He could be interdimensional, I I don't know
I mean, I think it could bedimensions, and maybe he's in
the middle is what he is in themiddle.
Hannah Kerr (40:49):
That's why he's blurry in this one.
He's not really in that one,and that's he's blurry in all
the pictures because he's in themiddle of two dimensions.
Maybe he actually is pixelated,like that's what he looks like.
Is he's pixelated?
Mike Weaver (41:02):
It's true, like that's what he looks like in
real life.
Hannah Kerr (41:03):
Oh my goodness, it's amazing.
Mike Weaver (41:05):
That is hilarious.
So we had all this meaningfultalk and then we we end on this
foolishness, or whatever so it'sso good.
I love that you have a wheel,though.
That's beautiful.
Hannah Kerr (41:14):
Listen, Amazon can give us a lot of treasures and
Amazon did provide that wheelfor us.
Mike Weaver (41:20):
I'm going home and I love dude, that's probably my
hot take is Amazon Like I don'tknow if you've ever like, just
if you randomly order things onAmazon.
Hannah Kerr (41:30):
Oh, for sure I have ordered.
Mike Weaver (41:31):
I have thought that I was dreaming and I had
packages arrive to my house fromthings that I have ordered in
the middle of the night, from mybunk on the bus that is amazing
.
Hannah Kerr (41:43):
I think that I do order most things in the middle
of the night in the bunk as well, Like that is when it gets me.
I'm like I need to buygenerators right now.
Mike Weaver (41:53):
No doubt about it.
I mean, you just have theburning need and I always want
to get it.
Make sure it's prime, though,because it needs to get here in
two days just two days.
You know it's great now, I'mgonna have a wheel, I'm gonna go
get a wheel you gotta do that'sgonna be the deciding factor in
our family.
Now we're just gonna like allof a sudden well, let's take it
to the wheel and like openthat's so good, mike.
Hannah Kerr (42:14):
Thank you so much for being here thank you so much
for having me.
Mike Weaver (42:17):
This is amazing.
It looks great.
I love hanging out with you.
I can't wait to listen to therest of what you do on this
awesome podcast thanks for beingin the middle of it with us.
Hannah Kerr (42:26):
I love it, mike Weaver, everybody.
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