July 8, 2025 • 55 mins
In a world fixated on conformity, Mrs Kasha Davis stands as a beacon of authenticity and self-love. This powerful conversation traverses the rocky terrain of addiction, self-discovery, and the transformative power of embracing one's true identity.
The legendary drag performer opens up about her journey to sobriety—approaching a decade clean after battling alcoholism that stemmed from years of trying to please everyone but herself. "I spent so many years in my youth running away from who I was," she reveals, detailing how the decision to live authentically became her truest act of self-love. This raw vulnerability creates an instant connection, especially when we discover our parallel struggles with addiction—hers with alcohol, mine with food—both stemming from a desperate attempt to numb pain rather than process it.
But this isn't just a story of personal triumph. With disarming honesty, Kasha shares how she's channeling her experiences into creating spaces of acceptance through drag story hours, children's books, and university teaching—building the supportive environments she never had access to as a child. When parents approach her after performances saying, "Thank you for showing me my child has a community," she finds her purpose crystallized in those moments of connection across difference.
Perhaps most moving is the story of reconciliation with her father—a man who once spat in her face when she came out, but who eventually attended one of her performances and proclaimed, "That's my son, Eddie, and I am so very proud." This unexpected turn reveals how leading with love can sometimes penetrate even the most hardened prejudice, offering hope in seemingly hopeless situations.
Whether you're struggling with self-acceptance, battling addiction, or simply trying to find your authentic voice in a noisy world, this conversation reminds us that our purpose is bigger than any force trying to silence us. As Mrs Kasha Davis puts it so beautifully: "There's always time for kindness." Subscribe now and join our community of truth-seekers riding shotgun through life's most meaningful journeys.
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back all you
beautiful people to end thepassenger seat with your
positivity.
Queen Alethea Crimmins I amAlethea Crimmins.
Listen, we are going to rideshotgun with purpose, power and
a whole lot of truth.
Are you ready?
Buckle up, are you ready?
Because this is going to be aride that you will not forget,
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because the guest that I havetoday, baby, she is not just
going to inspire you, she isgoing to shift you, she is going
to motivate you, she is goingto empower you, and that's
exactly what we need right now.
The world just needs a lot morelove.
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The world just needs a lot morekindness.
The world just needs a lot morekindness.
The world just needs a lot morepositivity, and it would make
it such a better place if wejust learn how to love each
other for who we are.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Take out the race, take outreligion, take out anything that
makes us different and justthink of what makes us the same.
(01:26):
This is why I really wantedthis guest on here, because she
inspires me in so many ways andI know, after this episode, she
is going to inspire you too.
So today, in the passenger seat, we've got a queen, not just a
queen, a legendary workhorsequeen, from the small town of
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Scranton to the big stage ofRuPaul's Drag Race and RuPaul's
All-Star baby, to readingstories to children in libraries
all over the world and shakingup the world with love, purpose
and a whole lot of sequence.
So yes, I am talking about theone, the only, the legendary,
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the gorgeous, the phenomenal,miss Kasha Day.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Woo, you are absolutely gorgeous, absolutely
amazing and such a bright light.
When you messaged me, I waslike is this real life?
Really, I couldn't believe it,because you just radiate so much
positivity and love.
(02:43):
And your introduction I'msitting here.
I'm like, oh my gosh, I can'tcry.
I've got my paint from HomeDepot on and I was like stop,
you know what?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
No, but you are absolutely gorgeous and I like
to showcase people that aredoing positivity in this world
and putting out the love thatthis world needs.
And this is what you do, thisis what you embody.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
It's what you do.
It's what you do, and we are solucky both of us and many
others who spread positivity.
We are so lucky to recognizethat we have these opportunities
, this platform, social media,this podcast, where we can try
to recognize others and bringpeople together.
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It's really what it's all about, and especially now, especially
now all about, and especiallynow.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
especially now, in this climate yes, in this
climate, where they are tryingto tear down everything that
makes us beautiful, everythingthat makes us stand out,
everything that makes us unique.
It's almost like the world issaying we don't want you to be
unique, we don't want you to bespecial, and as Cubans.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
That's how we thrive, that's how we thrive, that's
how we bloom, how we inspire oneanother.
You know, I spent so many yearsat this point now I'm 54 years
old and I spent so many years inmy youth running away from who
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I was.
Now I live as Ed he, himpronouns.
I perform as Mrs Kasha Davis,she, her.
And when I do comedy, mypronouns are he, he.
But I was not loving myself.
I was trying to please myparents, I was trying to please
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my fellow students, I was tryingto please the world society and
I wasn't able to love myself.
And because of that I went downsome terrible roads.
I went down the road ofalcoholism and I drank to
anesthetize and to just calmmyself down from all this
anxiety of trying to pleaseeverybody else.
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And this summer I'll be 10years sober, knock on wood and
thank you.
And it was that true act ofself-love.
It was time for me to be fullyand authentically myself.
Now I choose the path ofsobriety because for me it is
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the best path towards connectingto spirituality, towards
finding my purpose through dragto lift others up.
It doesn't mean that everybodyhas to get sober.
What I hope is that if peoplesee somebody like myself living
authentically, being able tofollow their dreams as a sober
person, it'll say you know what?
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Then I can do it too.
Yes, and I think then, in thissobriety journey, I then began
to find ways to bring to theworld of drag the things that
weren't there for me when I wasa little boy, girl gal, girl,
boy, fella.
It wasn't there.
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I had a struggling relationshipwith my father.
I had a difficult, difficultrelationship.
My parents disowned me when Icame out after I divorced my
ex-wife and spit in my face andtold me I want nothing to do
with you.
I didn't gravitate to drag.
I gravitated first and foremostto alcohol, and it took a long
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time for me to find myself.
And so I hope that by beingauthentically myself, as you are
doing on your social mediaplatforms and all of this, that
we can inspire others to shinetheir light.
That's what this is all aboutShine your light.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
And that's why you are here.
That's why you are here For allof us, for everything that you
do.
That's why you are here.
You are here for all of that,for everything that you've been.
While you were here, I love youso much Like, oh Well, like
just when I thought I couldn'tlove you more, like you're
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fucking amazing.
Okay, I just need you to knowand understand.
And your vice was alcohol.
Mine was food, right, mine wasfood, and I realized I had
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addiction.
Until I started to get myweight loss journey.
It was like, oh my God,everything in my life revolves
around food.
That's how I make myself feelbetter.
That's how I not feel myfeelings or anything I didn't
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want to feel.
I just ate it away.
It just made me feel better.
It is definitely a journey.
It's definitely a process.
It's not an easy one, but it'sone that's so worth it.
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Like I had to learn how tochoose my heart.
I had to learn how to choose myheart.
Yes, giving up food, losingweight is hard, eating is hard.
Which heart do I want?
Which hard am I willing to livewith?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I love that and people think of.
When they first think ofaddiction, they think
immediately drugs or alcohol,and certainly, of course.
But there's food addiction,there's phone addiction, there's
gambling addiction, there's sexaddiction, there's, et cetera.
You can be getting so manydifferent things.
And when we are in that process, what begins to become the
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realization is that it's amental obsession, a spiritual
obsession and a physicalobsession, and so all of these
obsessions begin to worktogether obsession.
And so all of these obsessionsbegin to work together.
And then, if you're not drinking, for me I was thinking of
drinking, planning my next drunkor being drunk, and so my
entire life, whether I realizedit or not, was revolving around
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it.
And then it got in the way ofwhat I could be possibly doing.
And that journey, for me, is soimportant to talk about because
I believe I have the joy ofperforming.
Yes, I like to go on stage, yes, I like to entertain, but my
favorite thing is to tell thetruth, because, you know, when
we were younger and we looked ata celebrity before social media
, it was about the glamorous redcarpet, and while that's all
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great and still happens, nowpeople are gravitating to
celebrities and people likeyourself who are living
authentically, telling theirtruth and showing the difficult
parts, and we can relate to oneanother and we can form
community and this is what saveslives.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yes, because not every day is a good day.
I don't.
I think that I really believeat one point in time that I just
wake up and be like I'm goingto be positive today.
No, I suffer with depression.
(10:55):
I also have bipolar disorder, Ialso have ADHD, all those
things, so it is a struggle forme to even get out of bed at
times.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
One of the things that I learned several things,
but some of my favorite thingsthat I learned in my sobriety
journey.
I have it tattooed on my arm.
It says grateful, finding thejoy, finding the good in every
single thing on a daily basis,finding what you can be grateful
for, has saved my life, hashelped me connect with my higher
power, has helped me to saythat there's more to this world
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than just me and my ego.
And yes, because that's where Iwas stuck in my ego, in self,
and finding the gratitude hasbeen that absolute beautiful
journey.
And then realizing that I hadprogrammed myself to think
negatively and so in the morning, when I begin to wake up, I
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would say, oh, you don't likeyour job.
Or I'd poke at myself and say,you know, you ate too much
yesterday, you need to loseweight.
And these are the firstthoughts before I even get out
of bed.
And what I learned in a bookcalled Thank and Grow Rich by
Pam Grout is that we begin.
You know what we visualize,what we verbalize, will
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materialize.
So it's up to me to start tospeak the positive.
It's up to me to start to speakthe positive.
It's up to me Now.
This doesn't mean, I ignore thereality, but it's to speak
what's good about, whatever'shappening.
And then I began to find, youknow, when my father was passing
away.
I began to find the joy in thejokes that we had at the
hospital together, you know, youwere able to find good moments
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in terrible, terrible times, andthis thought process is
something that I have to veryconsciously do on a daily basis.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Same.
This is exactly why I do what Ido, because what people don't
understand is that our minds aresuch powerful things and we
have the power to reprogrameverything that we've been
taught.
We've had the power to unlearnand to choose to go a different
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route, and I also learned thatevery negative thing that we
think about ourselves or that wethought about ourselves do not
come from us.
They do not come from us, right?
A lot of things that I feltabout myself came from my mama,
right, and I heard it so much.
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I heard it so much.
I heard it so much that I tookit on and I thought that that's
who I was, and oftentimes,that's what we do.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Right, it's generational trauma that
continues to get passed and itreally is up to me if I want to
change that, and you know, thereare so many books and so many
videos about manifestation andverbalizing this, so that you,
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you know, you can bring thesethings to your life.
I will say I have experiencedit and I also like to go to
psychics.
I went to a psychic one timeand they said you need to think
bigger, you need to think, youneed to believe more in yourself
.
You're visualizing a certainthing that is nice but safe.
Go for the gold, why not?
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This is that one life that weknow of.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
We are conditioned to think that we can only go as
far as this.
We're not conditioned to thinkI can choose for the store.
What if we just took ourselvesout of the box that people put
us in?
What if we shifted our mindsetand took the limits off and was
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actually like, yeah, I can dothis, like I believe in myself
enough that I can become, I cando anything I want to be.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Enough that I can become I can do anything I want
to be and if we do that, it willhappen.
It may not happen exactly howwe plan it, but it will happen
and you'll be able to step backbecause you'll be in the present
moment.
You'll be able to step back andgo.
I asked for this and, on theflip side, if I ask for the
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negative, the negative willcontinue to present itself,
because the universe doesn'tknow the difference.
And I'll never forget when Iused to sit there and watch my
mother put on her makeup.
You know I grew up with theItalian divas, you know.
I mean they got dressed up foreverything.
You know, and you know it's amatter of whether it's going to
church or it's whether going to.
You know, and you know it's amatter of whether it's going to
church or it's whether going to.
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You know, the school, for yourparent teacher meeting they were
dressed.
My mother, my grandmother and Iremember sitting watching.
Yes, I bet you, I bet you yourmom and your aunties, that was
the same idea.
Well, I remember sitting therewatching her and she said to me
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Eddie, promise me every dayafter you brush your teeth and I
say this at my story hours andI say this to I say children of
all ages, because we shouldalways continue to dream.
She'd say to me Eddie, everyday, after you brush your teeth,
look into your own beautifuleyes and say I love you, because
when you love yourself,everything is possible.
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And it's that simple.
And there are so many timeswhen I remember looking in the
mirror and remembering that andbeing like I can't even look at
myself.
I hate myself, I hate my joband I focused on the hate.
I focused on the negative andthat's what manifested.
And when I got sober andstarted to remember these things
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and I started to put these intopractice suddenly more things.
I never would have thought Iwould do drag story hour.
But I do drag story hourbecause it wasn't there for me
and it's not just for the kids.
The kids love it.
The kids love a wig, they lovethe fabulous, they know that
that's Ed up there or a mandressed up as Mrs Kasha Davis.
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It's the parents and thegrandparents and the guardians
and aunts and uncles that comeup and say thank you for showing
me my child has a community,for showing me my child has a
community, thank you for showingme my child is going to be okay
, and I'm like that's all I needto know, that's all I need to
hear, and we have a simplemessage If you happen to see
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someone different in the world,treat them with kindness.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
That's it.
How difficult is that, though,Like how difficult is that the
world makes us think so hard?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Right when I was in the drag bars.
Originally, I grew up inScranton, pennsylvania, and I
moved to Rochester, new York.
Well, I came here.
I didn't see gay people.
They were all in the closet.
You know, this was back in the70s and 80s when I was growing
up.
So when I came here in the late90s into Rochester, new York,
and I saw gay pride and I sawsame-sex people holding hands
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and I met my first trans woman.
I didn't know what was happening, but I didn't need to hate her
and we became the best dancingbuddies.
Every time I went to go to theclub we'd be out there dancing.
She was fabulous, she wasliving her life, she was living
authentically and she taught meso much and I was at first
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afraid I didn't understand.
But I didn't need to be hateful, because what is that going to
accomplish?
And that is what I think peopledo.
They gravitate what they don'tunderstand.
They gravitate to hate first.
And I think of of culture and Ithink of art and it's meant to
be experienced, not to be like Idon't understand.
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Push, push it away, because youthink about, for instance, food
.
Everybody around the world eatschicken.
We just season it differently.
Do you know what I'm saying?
It's prepared different ways.
Experience it.
You're missing out on life ifyou just stay in your one lane.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
So when did you realize that drag was just more
than wigs and heels, like thiswas your calling, your message,
your mission.
When did that like?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
come Well.
So I went to school for theater.
Drag was a little bit a part ofthat, but not much.
And then when I divorced myex-wife and I came to Rochester
I saw other queens Pandora Box,darian Lake they were both on
RuPaul's Drag Race and thenAggie Dune, ambrosia Seltz all
these amazing performers here inRochester.
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They were entertaining.
I enjoyed them.
But then I saw a queen namedMiss Richfield 1981.
And she sang live and shedidn't look so great in drag but
she was fun and funny and thatwas her point.
She didn't want to look greatand she had a real positive
message and I was like, ooh, Ilove that.
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And my husband and I said, whatif you did drag?
He said and I said I think Iwant to do drag.
And we began to create Mr andMrs Kasha Davis.
At a time when there weremarriage, equality wasn't legal.
It was not even something weever thought would happen in our
lifetime.
And then of course, the timemoved on and it became, became
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legal and you know my originalcharacter.
Mrs Kasha Davis was a drunkauntie.
You know there's always timefor a cocktail and she was kooky
and she's fun and we all haveher.
We all have her in our family.
We know that woman.
Oh yeah, I might be the woman.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
You might be the woman.
I might be the.
I was deaf.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I might be the drunk auntie.
Yeah, I was a drunk uncle, soand but you love them because
they're crazy and they're funnyand they're fun.
And then sobriety hit and I itwas after my third DUI and on
that third one, at noon noon, Iwas swerving in my own
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neighborhood and from fromhitting children and I dropped
to my knees and asked whateverthere is in the world, I said,
help me.
And I began the process and Ithought I'm going to give up my
husband of of many years and mystepchildren.
I'm going to give up my dragcareer because I had been on
rupaul's drag race already.
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I didn't give all of that up.
Please, dear whatever God,universe, higher power, whatever
you choose to use, help me.
And I began on this journey ofjust sort of simplifying and
getting into the moment.
And in my rehab and in theprocess I said I want to
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continue to perform, but I wantit to be more meaningful.
I don't have a problem withnightclub performers, but I want
to speak to other people, Iwant to inspire other people,
and I don't know where to begin.
And lo and behold what you askfor, you receive People in the
theater community started to sayI think you'd be great at drag
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story hour.
It wasn't originally my idea.
It were friends of mine whoI've collaborated with, and I
started to see where I can givethe world what wasn't there for
me, so that maybe they would notcross some of the bridges and
go into the dark alleys that Idid Because I couldn't find my
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light.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Your story is like mine, because that's exactly why
I say it all the time.
The reason I started doing whatI do?
Because I wanted to be forsomebody else when nobody was
for me, right.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
And that, I think, is what my higher power I call God
, but spiritual power, that isthe energy my parents have
passed and we had a bad, we hada tough struggle, but I feel
them.
I feel them in this momentsaying oh, I'm so glad you two
are talking, because I knowsomebody.
There could be thousands ofpeople who watch this or listen
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to this, but there may be twothat say, oh, I get it Right,
that's the work, that's whatwe're doing, and one recording
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at a time, one post at a time,that positivity down, and we're
just not going to let them itoff now Stop listening.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Now.
We're not going to let you messthis up for us, for all the
fabulous people.
We're not going to let you messit up for the rest of us,
that's right.
So exit stage left Right now.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
It's the truth, though.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
So, speaking of Drag Race, you had seven auditions,
seven times, seven times, beforegetting a call back.
Most people would have beenlike you know what?
Yeah, I'm, I'm done, but youkept showing up.
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What kept you showing up?
And what did that moment offinally getting on mean?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
for you as a little boy, girl gal, girl, boy, fella,
to work hard, to put in thework, to try.
And I was also taught by my mom.
She said, oh Eddie, she goes,we're winners, we always win.
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And I was like mom, I don'talways win, I didn't win this
prize or I didn't win this.
You know, at sports, I didn'twin this game, I didn't get the
part.
And she's like no, we alwayswin.
When we lose, we find what itis that we need to learn from
that and that makes, and thatmakes you a winner.
And I always remember that.
So when I you know, just liketheater, if you don't get the
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part, maybe next year you'll becast.
And so I kept auditioning, keptlearning from the auditions, and
my husband and I would make thetapes.
And we had so much fun makingthe tapes because they ask you
to do a lot.
And I would say on the tapesthat I dreamt.
And you remember I Love Lucy.
Yes, and I used to be like Iwant to be on I Love Lucy.
Well, I wasn't realizing thatLucille Ball had died when I was
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a kid.
You know what I mean.
Or I think it was in the 80s.
She passed away, but she'd beenfar away from I Love Lucy.
She didn't do it anymore and Iwas like that's what I want to
do, I want to do a funny showlike that.
Well, obviously that wasn'tgoing to happen, but I used to
talk about that on my auditiontape.
When we went to film, theproducers pulled me out and they
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said we want to take you outinto the parking lot.
And I'm like, okay, what'shappening?
They took me out and there'sthis big sign at the studios and
it was the original locationwhere the first season of I Love
Lucy was filmed in the samestudio.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I mean I have chills right now, remembering the
moment, because I was like that.
That's what I mean.
You ask the universe, you putsomething out and you're going
to get it, but not exactly theway you think.
But you've got to be clear,you've got to be awake, you've
got to be ready to recognize it,because it's going to present
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itself and it's going to goquick and you might miss it.
And if I wasn't present in thatmoment to realize, oh my gosh,
I'm with Lucy.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Here I am, and you would not have been grateful for
that moment.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
That's that moment, and so it's been such a such a
joy and it's crazy.
It's a reality show.
You know it's it's meant to bedramatic and there's you're
supposed to be, all of thatstuff.
But what came from that was theopportunity to have this
international recognition.
And, like recently, I just cameback from New Zealand where I
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did story hour and I did abrunch and I did a show.
New Zealand, this wasn't in thefinancial cards for Mr and Mrs.
We were nothing.
So to get to go to do that, andI'm going to Germany to do a
story hour in September, andit's not just for it's for it's
a fundraiser for children thatare in need.
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It's a fundraiser for childrenthat are in need, whether it's
physical abilities, that theyneed additional money for
accessibility, et cetera.
So we're creating thisfundraiser so to be recognized
as somebody that would be evenwilling to do that.
That's the gift.
That's the gift of being onthat show.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
God.
Like you have, you also havechildren's books out.
Drag Story Hour.
You teach at Drag.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
University.
Well, so I have threechildren's books out.
My fourth one, the fourth oneI'm going to begin to
collaborate with an amazingauthor named Susan Verde.
And if anybody listens and theyhave kiddos and they want to
read books, look up Susan'sbooks, susan Verde, and then
illustrations by Peter Reynolds.
They're amazing because at theend of the book there's talking
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points for the parents or auntsand uncles and grandparents,
whoever's reading, and you knowdifferent exercises you can do,
and it's about inclusion andkindness and loving yourself and
it's all of that.
And I'm so excited to beworking with her.
But I just.
It'll be my fourth semester atSUNY Brockport.
It's one of the SUNY New Yorkschools and I am going.
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I teach a drag class and thisclass focuses on drag theory,
drag culture and performance.
And so the students well, I, Ican't do sit-ups, I don't do
those anymore, I can't.
I can't find my, I can't findmy abs, no, and in the morning I
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can't stand up straight becauseI got a bad back and it's tough
.
No, but honestly, this has beena joy because you've got
theater students, you've gotgender studies students and the
fact is, as we were talkingbefore we started to record, is
that drag is an art form.
Drag has always existed, Transpeople have always existed.
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Never have they not existed,and so this is nothing, we just
fall out of the sky.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
ladies and gentlemen, like, contrary to your belief,
we've always been here.
Right, we were always here.
It just took y'all a while tocatch up.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yes, we've always been here, and drag is an art
form.
People love Mrs Doubtfire andRight Now this is drag.
I went to see the live show ofMrs Doubtfire and there was a
standing ovation and honestly, Igot mad Because when I looked
around the room I saw primarilywhite folks.
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I saw people giving thisstanding ovation, clapping.
Now the character of MrsDoubtfire gets a divorce and
they end up dressing in drag tobe closer to the kids and at the
end end they do a story hour onPBS, on a public television
show.
What if, when he got a divorce,he said the reason why I'm
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getting a divorce is I'm gay andI'm going to do dress up as a
housekeeper to see my kids andthen do story hour?
No one would be in the audiencebecause of homophobia, so you're
one would be in the audiencebecause it's homophobia.
So you're enjoying drag, butit's only if it's.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
If it fits your narrative, right.
If it fits your narrative, it'sokay.
But if it goes against anythingthat I believe in or what I've
been taught, then oh my gosh no,it's horrible, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
And listen, I have privilege.
I am an older white male whodoes drag.
I have had some protesters andwhen those protesters came, I
went to the news.
The news came in andinterviewed me and they said.
They said you have an agenda?
And the director said yes, tellthem, we do.
If you happen to see someonedifferent in the world, treat
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them with kindness.
Well, some of my drag familyother performers in the
Rochester area went to do astory hour in a in a affluent
suburb and the performers weretrans and people of color.
And suddenly there wereprotests and there were people
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lined up outside and there washate and they raised the rate of
the security to thousands ofdollars so that these performers
could not afford to do this.
Well, they, they moved it toanother location and I challenge
anyone and I've said it on thenews I was like that had nothing
to do with drag.
That had nothing to do withthat was transphobia and it was
racism, point blank.
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It had nothing to do with thedrag.
And you want to mask it bysaying the drag is a problem?
No, and so we need to keepspeaking up.
We need to keep showing up.
We need to say those things onthe news, because these people
will not win.
We will not let them win.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
So how do you keep leading with love, leading with
joy, Like, how do you keepshowing up in love when hate
always tries to take the lead,when hate always tries to take
that mic?
How do you keep leading in love?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
First and foremost, we have to take care of
ourselves.
We have to practice self-care,that looking in the mirror, that
my mother said loving yourself,taking care of yourself, having
those boundaries, doing goodthings for yourself.
But secondly is to open oureyes and recognize when people
show up at these protests, atthese events, when dads paint
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their nails to be inclusive totheir children you know these
girl dads they'll wear aprincess dress for their kids or
whatever.
That's.
That is true fatherhood.
That is.
I love my kids unconditionally.
This is what I focus on when Isee we did one of the protests
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that happened here in Rochester.
I looked across this crowd andI saw people of all ages, I saw
genders, I saw races and I alsosaw Republicans showing up and
saying I don't want this either.
You know, there's nothing wrongwith having a little bit of a
conservative view, but thatdoesn't mean you have any right
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to erase anyone else.
And how I stay positive is thatI recognize that hate that they
have is fear, and so maybe— andit's also ignorance, ignor
ignorance ignorance, it'signorance, and there they have.
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No, they've learned nothing else.
They had maybe a very badupbringing and maybe, just maybe
, by showing up and not beingafraid and being positive and
sometimes being bold and beingin their face, maybe there's a
chance.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Maybe there's a chance that they may change, and
I know when a parent walks upto you and says when a parent
walks up to you and says thankyou for showing up for my child,
thank you for showing my childthat they belong, what goes
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through your mind in that moment, like how do you feel that
moment?
What does this do to your heart?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Oh, it's the best feeling there is.
It's talk about addiction.
I'm addicted to that.
I'm addicted to that fact, thatjoy that it gives me.
You know, I've hadopportunities to perform at
places and get a good paycheckand that's great.
Of course I like that, butthere's nothing like that moment
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when they're true.
Just the other day we did ashow on the Catskills and it was
for pride, and afterwards wetake pictures with the audience.
And somebody came up and wascrying and they said they were
about to get top surgery thisweek and they were in a very
difficult place.
They were transitioning thelast couple of months.
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They were in a difficult placeand that drag queens saved their
life and they hugged us intears and their parents were
very supportive and are standingoff to the side and they were
just full of joy.
And I'm saying to myself thisperson was at the end of their
rope and just seeingperformances, seeing the
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positivity that drag performerscan exude, saved a life.
That's the best payment thereis.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I love it, oh, I love it, and I have to tell you this
quick story talking aboutchange.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
And I have to tell you this quick story talking
about change.
My father and I had a horrible,horrible relationship Physical,
verbal spit in my face when Icame out Fast forward, literally
, literally, fast forward.
Years later we kind of tolerateeach other.
(37:23):
I just thought to myself wenever made it, we never got
along.
If he passes, he passes, well,my mother passes, and it kind of
wakes him up and he starts toget closer to his kids.
He's a US marshal, tough guy,you know, try to beat the girl
out of me kind of guy.
And he started to age and I gotbooked in Scranton, pennsylvania
(37:47):
, at a Toyota dealership that'show big of a star I am.
And I had to go to do a showthere because they were doing
Kinky Boots and they wanted adrag queen from the area to come
in and talk about.
You know the love between afather and a son.
And so I was singing, I go, Igo to.
I was supposed to sing somesongs and tell some stories
while I go to visit my fatherand he said I see, you have a
(38:09):
show tonight at the Toyotadealership.
He's like, yeah, I'm coming.
I said dad, no, things aregetting good with this.
I got sober, I'm realizing Icould forgive him and he says,
no, I'm coming to your show.
I kind of like freaked out.
I was like I don't want to ruinwhat we've got.
He shows up, he comes backstageotherwise known as the sales
department and says he says,eddie, you look beautiful and
(38:36):
this is something I neverthought I'd hear.
Well, I go out and I do my showand we take a picture and a few
months my father passes awayand I was there for every moment
of that time and you know howwe all have those little special
jewelry boxes with things hehad and my social media post.
(38:59):
His friend sent it to himthrough email and he said did
you see kasha at the toyotadealers?
And he said no, no, that's myson, eddie, and I am so very
proud.
And I thought this man wouldnever change and never get it.
And it's possible.
So when we think about thathate and that anger and these
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things can happen when you loveyourself and you're true to
yourself and you show up mymakeup looks good today.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
We're not gonna ruin it.
We're not gonna do that yeahyeah, oh my gosh.
Okay, that story was beautiful,like I love how, if we just take
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the time to just accept peopleas who they are, people can
change.
Yes, people can change.
We just have to find that light.
Which brings me to why we'retalking about helping people.
My favorite segment of the show, ask Alicia, where you send me
(40:17):
your questions via DM or emailand we answer them live on the
show.
So I usually ask my guests togo first.
But this is the question fromJasmine in Atlanta.
She asked Alicia, how do youkeep showing up when the world
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tries to shut you down?
Baby, I go through that on aregular basis.
So, ms Kasha Davis, I'll letyou answer this question first,
honey.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
I show up for little Eddie because little Eddie is
still alive within me and didn'tget a chance, and so I don't
want to let him down.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
You see, my makeup is pretty.
My makeup is pretty.
You're stunning.
Piggybacking off of all of that, jasmine, let me just say this
you don't show up just becauseit's easy.
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You don't show up just becauseof other people.
You show up because yourpurpose is bigger than their
noise.
You show up because yourpurpose is bigger than their
noise.
You show up because yourpurpose is bigger.
It's bigger than their noise.
It's bigger than what theythink.
It's bigger than what the worldwants you to be.
(41:57):
It's bigger, it's.
You Show up because there'ssomeone watching you, and that
someone is you.
That someone is you.
You've been waiting on you toshow up.
Show up, show up bigger, showup better.
Show up.
Stop trying to figure out howto shine and just shine.
Just shine Unapologetically.
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Stop trying to figure it out.
Just do it, because not onlyare you enough, you are more
than enough.
The world will just have tocatch up on you.
The world will just have tocatch up.
The moment you stop, the momentyou stop showing up, the moment
that you silence theirpermission, that's when you're
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going to blow like the diamondthat you are.
I say this all the time If thesun does not ask permission to
shine, then why the hell shouldyou Just shine?
So I hope that that answersyour question, ms Jasmine, in
Atlanta, and if you have aquestion that you want to want
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me to answer me and my guests toanswer on my show, email, dm,
send a carrier pigeon to in thepassenger seat and ask Alethea.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Come on, carrier pigeon Okay.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
I don't care how you get here.
Yes, so we have a game.
I like to play the rapid firegames and hit the gas with Miss
Kasha Davis.
Hit the gas.
Quick questions, quick answers.
(43:56):
Okay, not even going to thinkabout the first word that comes,
one word that describes yourcurrent season of life.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Glowing, glowing, glowing bitch.
Glowing, she's glowing Period,period yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Your go-to mantra when the wig goes on and the
lights hit.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
There's always time for kindness.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Always, always.
What surprised you the mostabout life after Drag Race?
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Oh, the possibilities .
I had in my mind that you know,you get on the drag tour or you
get on the nightclubs, you getnightclub gigs.
The possibilities of otherthings like this drag story hour
, teaching at a college,speaking engagements and lifting
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people up.
So the possibilities, they'retruly endless again when you're
living your authentic self.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
The dream project that is on your vision board
right now.
Project that is on your visionboard right now.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
My children's program Getting to a Network
Imagination Station.
So it's currently on YouTube,but it was picked up by PBS and
then, when all the politicaldrag is horrible, they pulled so
to get someone to pick up thischildren's.
Imagine Mrs Doubtfire hostingPee Wee's Playhouse in Mr
(45:46):
Rogers' neighborhood and that'sthe show.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
See, okay, well, I need everybody to go and look
for on YouTube.
Imagination Station yes, KeepImagination Station alive.
Open your mind, let your kidsknow it is okay to express
themselves, it is okay to beexactly who they are, it is okay
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, and do not let the world keepyou from being your authentic
self.
Imagination station Look us upon YouTube, because I am going
to subscribe today, so youshould too.
Okay, miss Kasha, before we endthis, can you please tell us
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where to find everything?
Miss Kasha Davis.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Well, I'm available.
You can find Mrs Kasha Davis onInstaSnatch, twatter, face
Place and MyChart.
No, you can find me everywhereat Mrs Kasha Davis.
But I just want to say againwe're talking about
manifestation, we're talkingabout positivity, we're talking
about dreams, and you know thisbecause you're so popular and
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you get these messages.
And when I got that message foryou, I was like is this real
life?
This is such a gift.
You are so beautiful.
You bring so much joy to peopleand I am like this is the best
day.
I've just been out on the roaddoing pride stuff and shows and
I'm grateful, grateful, grateful.
(47:19):
But I was like the last thing Iget to do.
I have a couple of days off andI got to spend it with you.
I am honestly like justoverwhelmed.
So I just want to say trulyremember to people out there
listening follow your dreams,because I didn't expect this
connection and I'm supergrateful for it.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Oh, I have been getting confirmations all day
long and you have no idea.
You guys know I'm verytransparent about everything I
go through and everything I dealwith.
Oh, let me try to keep ittogether.
You know how.
(48:02):
You have those moments whereyou have that doubt, and I have
been having a lot of thosemoments lately where I was
questioning is this still whatI've been called to do, or
(48:28):
should I just go back toteaching and just give this all
up?
Is it still worth me doing?
Do I still have a place in this?
And I asked God.
I said you know what, if thisis what you really want to
(48:51):
continue to do because I knowthat you did not bring me this
far just to have me go backwardsgive me some type of sign.
And I waited, I waited, Iwaited, I waited.
This morning I went to thedoctor's office and she pretty
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much told me the same thing thatyou just did.
And then you come on here andthen you tell me this yeah, yes,
thank you for thank you.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
I know I believe in my intuition, I believe in my
maybe it's my psychic ability.
This is the beginning.
This is the beginning for you.
It's bigger than we canvisualize sometimes and you are
saving lives.
You are touching people's liveswith these moments of
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positivity and joy and you'reauthentically just and you have
a team.
You know everyone I've met withand worked with and preparing
this.
We're behind you, and sosometimes we need each other to
lift each other up like this,and these connections are meant
to happen.
But yes, it is just thebeginning.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
You have made me cry, so now you're my best friend.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Well, good, I mean, I can't wait.
I can't wait for what's nextand I'm going to be there to
support you every step of theway.
I know so many people who justgravitate to your authentic
kindness and just sharing thatlove.
So, thank you and I know Ispeak for everyone watching.
We are here for you, to liftyou up, thank you.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
This last segment is also one of my favorites.
It's called Pass it On.
It's a message that you want toshare with either my next best
or anybody watching.
What would that message thatpass it on message be?
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Usually, that's the question Iask.
But what I want to ask you,what message would you pass on
to little Eddie?
Speaker 2 (51:21):
I knew you were going to do that to little eddie.
I knew you were gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
So just close your eyes.
Yeah, vision that little eddie,that little boy that grew up in
that small town where peoplewere just like you know what.
You are never gonna amount toanything and you shouldn't do
this and you shouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
Close your eyes and imagine you standing in front of
you right now I first will saylittle eddie, I love you and I
want you to love yourself.
Give it a try, it's going to beokay.
(52:08):
And I am going to be here foryou in ways that those that you
trusted most could not be.
And I challenge little Eddie tothink that maybe it's going to
(52:33):
be okay, because as a little boy, I just felt like everyone
hated me and I had to put onthese shows and try to please
everyone on these shows and tryto to please everyone.
But I'm so proud of how strongI was as a little boy to to
fight through the best way Icould.
(52:53):
But now it's time for us toshine together because I take, I
take him everywhere I go andI'm I want him to see that this
is what we were meant to dotogether.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
I need you to know that I love you not just for
being Miss Kasha Davis, I loveyou for being Eddie.
Oh, thank you.
And the world loves you notjust for being the amazing Miss
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Kasha Davis, the world loves youfor being Eddie.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Well, thank you.
And Eddie is here, and I alwayssay Mrs Kasha Davis is Eddie,
with an exclamation point Iwasn't able to like the color
pink, and now I've got pinkdresses, or whatever the case
may be, but little Eddie alwayswanted everybody else to be okay
(54:02):
too.
So I want little Eddie to knowthat he's okay and it's okay for
him to be, to be free and tojust be himself.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Oh, this is the best show ever.
This is the best show ever.
This is everything.
Oh, thank you for being here.
Thank you for taking time outof your day, thank you for
taking time out of your schedule, for just being in the
passenger seat with me today, toeveryone watching and listening
.
If this spoke to your soul likeit spoke to mine, send this to
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somebody that needs a reminderthat it's going to be okay, it's
going to be okay.
Hard days come, it's going tobe okay, it's going to be okay.
Yes, hard days come, it's goingto be okay.
You can do hard things.
Just continue to show up,continue being great in your own
face so you can go out thereand be extraordinary in theirs,
(55:00):
because that's what you'resupposed to do.
Because that's what you'resupposed to do, kasha, know that
you are welcome back anytimethat you want to come and sit in
the passenger seat with me.
Know that you are welcome.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Oh, I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (55:16):
Thank you so much.
Y'all, please, please, please,like, follow, share, subscribe,
go and show Ms Kasha Davis somelove and imagination.
Station today Lead with love,lead with kindness, be great in
your days and, as always, youhave a good day.
(55:38):
I'm perfect now, see ya, you.
Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back all you
beautiful people to end thepassenger seat with your
positivity.
Queen Alethea Crimmins I amAlethea Crimmins.
Listen, we are going to rideshotgun with purpose, power and
a whole lot of truth.
Are you ready?
Buckle up, are you ready?
Because this is going to be aride that you will not forget,
(00:42):
because the guest that I havetoday, baby, she is not just
going to inspire you, she isgoing to shift you, she is going
to motivate you, she is goingto empower you, and that's
exactly what we need right now.
The world just needs a lot morelove.
(01:02):
The world just needs a lot morekindness.
The world just needs a lot morekindness.
The world just needs a lot morepositivity, and it would make
it such a better place if wejust learn how to love each
other for who we are.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Take out the race, take outreligion, take out anything that
makes us different and justthink of what makes us the same.
(01:26):
This is why I really wantedthis guest on here, because she
inspires me in so many ways andI know, after this episode, she
is going to inspire you too.
So today, in the passenger seat, we've got a queen, not just a
queen, a legendary workhorsequeen, from the small town of
(01:48):
Scranton to the big stage ofRuPaul's Drag Race and RuPaul's
All-Star baby, to readingstories to children in libraries
all over the world and shakingup the world with love, purpose
and a whole lot of sequence.
So yes, I am talking about theone, the only, the legendary,
(02:16):
the gorgeous, the phenomenal,miss Kasha Day.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Woo, you are absolutely gorgeous, absolutely
amazing and such a bright light.
When you messaged me, I waslike is this real life?
Really, I couldn't believe it,because you just radiate so much
positivity and love.
(02:43):
And your introduction I'msitting here.
I'm like, oh my gosh, I can'tcry.
I've got my paint from HomeDepot on and I was like stop,
you know what?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
No, but you are absolutely gorgeous and I like
to showcase people that aredoing positivity in this world
and putting out the love thatthis world needs.
And this is what you do, thisis what you embody.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
It's what you do.
It's what you do, and we are solucky both of us and many
others who spread positivity.
We are so lucky to recognizethat we have these opportunities
, this platform, social media,this podcast, where we can try
to recognize others and bringpeople together.
(03:37):
It's really what it's all about, and especially now, especially
now all about, and especiallynow.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
especially now, in this climate yes, in this
climate, where they are tryingto tear down everything that
makes us beautiful, everythingthat makes us stand out,
everything that makes us unique.
It's almost like the world issaying we don't want you to be
unique, we don't want you to bespecial, and as Cubans.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
That's how we thrive, that's how we thrive, that's
how we bloom, how we inspire oneanother.
You know, I spent so many yearsat this point now I'm 54 years
old and I spent so many years inmy youth running away from who
(04:32):
I was.
Now I live as Ed he, himpronouns.
I perform as Mrs Kasha Davis,she, her.
And when I do comedy, mypronouns are he, he.
But I was not loving myself.
I was trying to please myparents, I was trying to please
(04:53):
my fellow students, I was tryingto please the world society and
I wasn't able to love myself.
And because of that I went downsome terrible roads.
I went down the road ofalcoholism and I drank to
anesthetize and to just calmmyself down from all this
anxiety of trying to pleaseeverybody else.
(05:13):
And this summer I'll be 10years sober, knock on wood and
thank you.
And it was that true act ofself-love.
It was time for me to be fullyand authentically myself.
Now I choose the path ofsobriety because for me it is
(05:35):
the best path towards connectingto spirituality, towards
finding my purpose through dragto lift others up.
It doesn't mean that everybodyhas to get sober.
What I hope is that if peoplesee somebody like myself living
authentically, being able tofollow their dreams as a sober
person, it'll say you know what?
(05:55):
Then I can do it too.
Yes, and I think then, in thissobriety journey, I then began
to find ways to bring to theworld of drag the things that
weren't there for me when I wasa little boy, girl gal, girl,
boy, fella.
It wasn't there.
(06:16):
I had a struggling relationshipwith my father.
I had a difficult, difficultrelationship.
My parents disowned me when Icame out after I divorced my
ex-wife and spit in my face andtold me I want nothing to do
with you.
I didn't gravitate to drag.
I gravitated first and foremostto alcohol, and it took a long
(06:42):
time for me to find myself.
And so I hope that by beingauthentically myself, as you are
doing on your social mediaplatforms and all of this, that
we can inspire others to shinetheir light.
That's what this is all aboutShine your light.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
And that's why you are here.
That's why you are here For allof us, for everything that you
do.
That's why you are here.
You are here for all of that,for everything that you've been.
While you were here, I love youso much Like, oh Well, like
just when I thought I couldn'tlove you more, like you're
(07:20):
fucking amazing.
Okay, I just need you to knowand understand.
And your vice was alcohol.
Mine was food, right, mine wasfood, and I realized I had
(07:41):
addiction.
Until I started to get myweight loss journey.
It was like, oh my God,everything in my life revolves
around food.
That's how I make myself feelbetter.
That's how I not feel myfeelings or anything I didn't
(08:07):
want to feel.
I just ate it away.
It just made me feel better.
It is definitely a journey.
It's definitely a process.
It's not an easy one, but it'sone that's so worth it.
(08:28):
Like I had to learn how tochoose my heart.
I had to learn how to choose myheart.
Yes, giving up food, losingweight is hard, eating is hard.
Which heart do I want?
Which hard am I willing to livewith?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I love that and people think of.
When they first think ofaddiction, they think
immediately drugs or alcohol,and certainly, of course.
But there's food addiction,there's phone addiction, there's
gambling addiction, there's sexaddiction, there's, et cetera.
You can be getting so manydifferent things.
And when we are in that process, what begins to become the
(09:14):
realization is that it's amental obsession, a spiritual
obsession and a physicalobsession, and so all of these
obsessions begin to worktogether obsession.
And so all of these obsessionsbegin to work together.
And then, if you're not drinking, for me I was thinking of
drinking, planning my next drunkor being drunk, and so my
entire life, whether I realizedit or not, was revolving around
(09:50):
it.
And then it got in the way ofwhat I could be possibly doing.
And that journey, for me, is soimportant to talk about because
I believe I have the joy ofperforming.
Yes, I like to go on stage, yes, I like to entertain, but my
favorite thing is to tell thetruth, because, you know, when
we were younger and we looked ata celebrity before social media
, it was about the glamorous redcarpet, and while that's all
(10:11):
great and still happens, nowpeople are gravitating to
celebrities and people likeyourself who are living
authentically, telling theirtruth and showing the difficult
parts, and we can relate to oneanother and we can form
community and this is what saveslives.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yes, because not every day is a good day.
I don't.
I think that I really believeat one point in time that I just
wake up and be like I'm goingto be positive today.
No, I suffer with depression.
(10:55):
I also have bipolar disorder, Ialso have ADHD, all those
things, so it is a struggle forme to even get out of bed at
times.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
One of the things that I learned several things,
but some of my favorite thingsthat I learned in my sobriety
journey.
I have it tattooed on my arm.
It says grateful, finding thejoy, finding the good in every
single thing on a daily basis,finding what you can be grateful
for, has saved my life, hashelped me connect with my higher
power, has helped me to saythat there's more to this world
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than just me and my ego.
And yes, because that's where Iwas stuck in my ego, in self,
and finding the gratitude hasbeen that absolute beautiful
journey.
And then realizing that I hadprogrammed myself to think
negatively and so in the morning, when I begin to wake up, I
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would say, oh, you don't likeyour job.
Or I'd poke at myself and say,you know, you ate too much
yesterday, you need to loseweight.
And these are the firstthoughts before I even get out
of bed.
And what I learned in a bookcalled Thank and Grow Rich by
Pam Grout is that we begin.
You know what we visualize,what we verbalize, will
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materialize.
So it's up to me to start tospeak the positive.
It's up to me to start to speakthe positive.
It's up to me Now.
This doesn't mean, I ignore thereality, but it's to speak
what's good about, whatever'shappening.
And then I began to find, youknow, when my father was passing
away.
I began to find the joy in thejokes that we had at the
hospital together, you know, youwere able to find good moments
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in terrible, terrible times, andthis thought process is
something that I have to veryconsciously do on a daily basis.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Same.
This is exactly why I do what Ido, because what people don't
understand is that our minds aresuch powerful things and we
have the power to reprogrameverything that we've been
taught.
We've had the power to unlearnand to choose to go a different
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route, and I also learned thatevery negative thing that we
think about ourselves or that wethought about ourselves do not
come from us.
They do not come from us, right?
A lot of things that I feltabout myself came from my mama,
right, and I heard it so much.
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I heard it so much.
I heard it so much that I tookit on and I thought that that's
who I was, and oftentimes,that's what we do.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Right, it's generational trauma that
continues to get passed and itreally is up to me if I want to
change that, and you know, thereare so many books and so many
videos about manifestation andverbalizing this, so that you,
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you know, you can bring thesethings to your life.
I will say I have experiencedit and I also like to go to
psychics.
I went to a psychic one timeand they said you need to think
bigger, you need to think, youneed to believe more in yourself
.
You're visualizing a certainthing that is nice but safe.
Go for the gold, why not?
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This is that one life that weknow of.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
We are conditioned to think that we can only go as
far as this.
We're not conditioned to thinkI can choose for the store.
What if we just took ourselvesout of the box that people put
us in?
What if we shifted our mindsetand took the limits off and was
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actually like, yeah, I can dothis, like I believe in myself
enough that I can become, I cando anything I want to be.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Enough that I can become I can do anything I want
to be and if we do that, it willhappen.
It may not happen exactly howwe plan it, but it will happen
and you'll be able to step backbecause you'll be in the present
moment.
You'll be able to step back andgo.
I asked for this and, on theflip side, if I ask for the
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negative, the negative willcontinue to present itself,
because the universe doesn'tknow the difference.
And I'll never forget when Iused to sit there and watch my
mother put on her makeup.
You know I grew up with theItalian divas, you know.
I mean they got dressed up foreverything.
You know, and you know it's amatter of whether it's going to
church or it's whether going to.
You know, and you know it's amatter of whether it's going to
church or it's whether going to.
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You know, the school, for yourparent teacher meeting they were
dressed.
My mother, my grandmother and Iremember sitting watching.
Yes, I bet you, I bet you yourmom and your aunties, that was
the same idea.
Well, I remember sitting therewatching her and she said to me
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Eddie, promise me every dayafter you brush your teeth and I
say this at my story hours andI say this to I say children of
all ages, because we shouldalways continue to dream.
She'd say to me Eddie, everyday, after you brush your teeth,
look into your own beautifuleyes and say I love you, because
when you love yourself,everything is possible.
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And it's that simple.
And there are so many timeswhen I remember looking in the
mirror and remembering that andbeing like I can't even look at
myself.
I hate myself, I hate my joband I focused on the hate.
I focused on the negative andthat's what manifested.
And when I got sober andstarted to remember these things
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and I started to put these intopractice suddenly more things.
I never would have thought Iwould do drag story hour.
But I do drag story hourbecause it wasn't there for me
and it's not just for the kids.
The kids love it.
The kids love a wig, they lovethe fabulous, they know that
that's Ed up there or a mandressed up as Mrs Kasha Davis.
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It's the parents and thegrandparents and the guardians
and aunts and uncles that comeup and say thank you for showing
me my child has a community,for showing me my child has a
community, thank you for showingme my child is going to be okay
, and I'm like that's all I needto know, that's all I need to
hear, and we have a simplemessage If you happen to see
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someone different in the world,treat them with kindness.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
That's it.
How difficult is that, though,Like how difficult is that the
world makes us think so hard?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Right when I was in the drag bars.
Originally, I grew up inScranton, pennsylvania, and I
moved to Rochester, new York.
Well, I came here.
I didn't see gay people.
They were all in the closet.
You know, this was back in the70s and 80s when I was growing
up.
So when I came here in the late90s into Rochester, new York,
and I saw gay pride and I sawsame-sex people holding hands
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and I met my first trans woman.
I didn't know what was happening, but I didn't need to hate her
and we became the best dancingbuddies.
Every time I went to go to theclub we'd be out there dancing.
She was fabulous, she wasliving her life, she was living
authentically and she taught meso much and I was at first
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afraid I didn't understand.
But I didn't need to be hateful, because what is that going to
accomplish?
And that is what I think peopledo.
They gravitate what they don'tunderstand.
They gravitate to hate first.
And I think of of culture and Ithink of art and it's meant to
be experienced, not to be like Idon't understand.
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Push, push it away, because youthink about, for instance, food
.
Everybody around the world eatschicken.
We just season it differently.
Do you know what I'm saying?
It's prepared different ways.
Experience it.
You're missing out on life ifyou just stay in your one lane.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
So when did you realize that drag was just more
than wigs and heels, like thiswas your calling, your message,
your mission.
When did that like?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
come Well.
So I went to school for theater.
Drag was a little bit a part ofthat, but not much.
And then when I divorced myex-wife and I came to Rochester
I saw other queens Pandora Box,darian Lake they were both on
RuPaul's Drag Race and thenAggie Dune, ambrosia Seltz all
these amazing performers here inRochester.
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They were entertaining.
I enjoyed them.
But then I saw a queen namedMiss Richfield 1981.
And she sang live and shedidn't look so great in drag but
she was fun and funny and thatwas her point.
She didn't want to look greatand she had a real positive
message and I was like, ooh, Ilove that.
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And my husband and I said, whatif you did drag?
He said and I said I think Iwant to do drag.
And we began to create Mr andMrs Kasha Davis.
At a time when there weremarriage, equality wasn't legal.
It was not even something weever thought would happen in our
lifetime.
And then of course, the timemoved on and it became, became
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legal and you know my originalcharacter.
Mrs Kasha Davis was a drunkauntie.
You know there's always timefor a cocktail and she was kooky
and she's fun and we all haveher.
We all have her in our family.
We know that woman.
Oh yeah, I might be the woman.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
You might be the woman.
I might be the.
I was deaf.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I might be the drunk auntie.
Yeah, I was a drunk uncle, soand but you love them because
they're crazy and they're funnyand they're fun.
And then sobriety hit and I itwas after my third DUI and on
that third one, at noon noon, Iwas swerving in my own
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neighborhood and from fromhitting children and I dropped
to my knees and asked whateverthere is in the world, I said,
help me.
And I began the process and Ithought I'm going to give up my
husband of of many years and mystepchildren.
I'm going to give up my dragcareer because I had been on
rupaul's drag race already.
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I didn't give all of that up.
Please, dear whatever God,universe, higher power, whatever
you choose to use, help me.
And I began on this journey ofjust sort of simplifying and
getting into the moment.
And in my rehab and in theprocess I said I want to
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continue to perform, but I wantit to be more meaningful.
I don't have a problem withnightclub performers, but I want
to speak to other people, Iwant to inspire other people,
and I don't know where to begin.
And lo and behold what you askfor, you receive People in the
theater community started to sayI think you'd be great at drag
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story hour.
It wasn't originally my idea.
It were friends of mine whoI've collaborated with, and I
started to see where I can givethe world what wasn't there for
me, so that maybe they would notcross some of the bridges and
go into the dark alleys that Idid Because I couldn't find my
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light.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Your story is like mine, because that's exactly why
I say it all the time.
The reason I started doing whatI do?
Because I wanted to be forsomebody else when nobody was
for me, right.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
And that, I think, is what my higher power I call God
, but spiritual power, that isthe energy my parents have
passed and we had a bad, we hada tough struggle, but I feel
them.
I feel them in this momentsaying oh, I'm so glad you two
are talking, because I knowsomebody.
There could be thousands ofpeople who watch this or listen
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to this, but there may be twothat say, oh, I get it Right,
that's the work, that's whatwe're doing, and one recording
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at a time, one post at a time,that positivity down, and we're
just not going to let them itoff now Stop listening.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Now.
We're not going to let you messthis up for us, for all the
fabulous people.
We're not going to let you messit up for the rest of us,
that's right.
So exit stage left Right now.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
It's the truth, though.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
So, speaking of Drag Race, you had seven auditions,
seven times, seven times, beforegetting a call back.
Most people would have beenlike you know what?
Yeah, I'm, I'm done, but youkept showing up.
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What kept you showing up?
And what did that moment offinally getting on mean?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
for you as a little boy, girl gal, girl, boy, fella,
to work hard, to put in thework, to try.
And I was also taught by my mom.
She said, oh Eddie, she goes,we're winners, we always win.
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And I was like mom, I don'talways win, I didn't win this
prize or I didn't win this.
You know, at sports, I didn'twin this game, I didn't get the
part.
And she's like no, we alwayswin.
When we lose, we find what itis that we need to learn from
that and that makes, and thatmakes you a winner.
And I always remember that.
So when I you know, just liketheater, if you don't get the
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part, maybe next year you'll becast.
And so I kept auditioning, keptlearning from the auditions, and
my husband and I would make thetapes.
And we had so much fun makingthe tapes because they ask you
to do a lot.
And I would say on the tapesthat I dreamt.
And you remember I Love Lucy.
Yes, and I used to be like Iwant to be on I Love Lucy.
Well, I wasn't realizing thatLucille Ball had died when I was
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a kid.
You know what I mean.
Or I think it was in the 80s.
She passed away, but she'd beenfar away from I Love Lucy.
She didn't do it anymore and Iwas like that's what I want to
do, I want to do a funny showlike that.
Well, obviously that wasn'tgoing to happen, but I used to
talk about that on my auditiontape.
When we went to film, theproducers pulled me out and they
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said we want to take you outinto the parking lot.
And I'm like, okay, what'shappening?
They took me out and there'sthis big sign at the studios and
it was the original locationwhere the first season of I Love
Lucy was filmed in the samestudio.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I mean I have chills right now, remembering the
moment, because I was like that.
That's what I mean.
You ask the universe, you putsomething out and you're going
to get it, but not exactly theway you think.
But you've got to be clear,you've got to be awake, you've
got to be ready to recognize it,because it's going to present
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itself and it's going to goquick and you might miss it.
And if I wasn't present in thatmoment to realize, oh my gosh,
I'm with Lucy.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Here I am, and you would not have been grateful for
that moment.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
That's that moment, and so it's been such a such a
joy and it's crazy.
It's a reality show.
You know it's it's meant to bedramatic and there's you're
supposed to be, all of thatstuff.
But what came from that was theopportunity to have this
international recognition.
And, like recently, I just cameback from New Zealand where I
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did story hour and I did abrunch and I did a show.
New Zealand, this wasn't in thefinancial cards for Mr and Mrs.
We were nothing.
So to get to go to do that, andI'm going to Germany to do a
story hour in September, andit's not just for it's for it's
a fundraiser for children thatare in need.
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It's a fundraiser for childrenthat are in need, whether it's
physical abilities, that theyneed additional money for
accessibility, et cetera.
So we're creating thisfundraiser so to be recognized
as somebody that would be evenwilling to do that.
That's the gift.
That's the gift of being onthat show.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
God.
Like you have, you also havechildren's books out.
Drag Story Hour.
You teach at Drag.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
University.
Well, so I have threechildren's books out.
My fourth one, the fourth oneI'm going to begin to
collaborate with an amazingauthor named Susan Verde.
And if anybody listens and theyhave kiddos and they want to
read books, look up Susan'sbooks, susan Verde, and then
illustrations by Peter Reynolds.
They're amazing because at theend of the book there's talking
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points for the parents or auntsand uncles and grandparents,
whoever's reading, and you knowdifferent exercises you can do,
and it's about inclusion andkindness and loving yourself and
it's all of that.
And I'm so excited to beworking with her.
But I just.
It'll be my fourth semester atSUNY Brockport.
It's one of the SUNY New Yorkschools and I am going.
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I teach a drag class and thisclass focuses on drag theory,
drag culture and performance.
And so the students well, I, Ican't do sit-ups, I don't do
those anymore, I can't.
I can't find my, I can't findmy abs, no, and in the morning I
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can't stand up straight becauseI got a bad back and it's tough
.
No, but honestly, this has beena joy because you've got
theater students, you've gotgender studies students and the
fact is, as we were talkingbefore we started to record, is
that drag is an art form.
Drag has always existed, Transpeople have always existed.
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Never have they not existed,and so this is nothing, we just
fall out of the sky.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
ladies and gentlemen, like, contrary to your belief,
we've always been here.
Right, we were always here.
It just took y'all a while tocatch up.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yes, we've always been here, and drag is an art
form.
People love Mrs Doubtfire andRight Now this is drag.
I went to see the live show ofMrs Doubtfire and there was a
standing ovation and honestly, Igot mad Because when I looked
around the room I saw primarilywhite folks.
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I saw people giving thisstanding ovation, clapping.
Now the character of MrsDoubtfire gets a divorce and
they end up dressing in drag tobe closer to the kids and at the
end end they do a story hour onPBS, on a public television
show.
What if, when he got a divorce,he said the reason why I'm
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getting a divorce is I'm gay andI'm going to do dress up as a
housekeeper to see my kids andthen do story hour?
No one would be in the audiencebecause of homophobia, so you're
one would be in the audiencebecause it's homophobia.
So you're enjoying drag, butit's only if it's.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
If it fits your narrative, right.
If it fits your narrative, it'sokay.
But if it goes against anythingthat I believe in or what I've
been taught, then oh my gosh no,it's horrible, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
And listen, I have privilege.
I am an older white male whodoes drag.
I have had some protesters andwhen those protesters came, I
went to the news.
The news came in andinterviewed me and they said.
They said you have an agenda?
And the director said yes, tellthem, we do.
If you happen to see someonedifferent in the world, treat
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them with kindness.
Well, some of my drag familyother performers in the
Rochester area went to do astory hour in a in a affluent
suburb and the performers weretrans and people of color.
And suddenly there wereprotests and there were people
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lined up outside and there washate and they raised the rate of
the security to thousands ofdollars so that these performers
could not afford to do this.
Well, they, they moved it toanother location and I challenge
anyone and I've said it on thenews I was like that had nothing
to do with drag.
That had nothing to do withthat was transphobia and it was
racism, point blank.
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It had nothing to do with thedrag.
And you want to mask it bysaying the drag is a problem?
No, and so we need to keepspeaking up.
We need to keep showing up.
We need to say those things onthe news, because these people
will not win.
We will not let them win.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
So how do you keep leading with love, leading with
joy, Like, how do you keepshowing up in love when hate
always tries to take the lead,when hate always tries to take
that mic?
How do you keep leading in love?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
First and foremost, we have to take care of
ourselves.
We have to practice self-care,that looking in the mirror, that
my mother said loving yourself,taking care of yourself, having
those boundaries, doing goodthings for yourself.
But secondly is to open oureyes and recognize when people
show up at these protests, atthese events, when dads paint
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their nails to be inclusive totheir children you know these
girl dads they'll wear aprincess dress for their kids or
whatever.
That's.
That is true fatherhood.
That is.
I love my kids unconditionally.
This is what I focus on when Isee we did one of the protests
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that happened here in Rochester.
I looked across this crowd andI saw people of all ages, I saw
genders, I saw races and I alsosaw Republicans showing up and
saying I don't want this either.
You know, there's nothing wrongwith having a little bit of a
conservative view, but thatdoesn't mean you have any right
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to erase anyone else.
And how I stay positive is thatI recognize that hate that they
have is fear, and so maybe— andit's also ignorance, ignor
ignorance ignorance, it'signorance, and there they have.
(34:54):
No, they've learned nothing else.
They had maybe a very badupbringing and maybe, just maybe
, by showing up and not beingafraid and being positive and
sometimes being bold and beingin their face, maybe there's a
chance.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Maybe there's a chance that they may change, and
I know when a parent walks upto you and says when a parent
walks up to you and says thankyou for showing up for my child,
thank you for showing my childthat they belong, what goes
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through your mind in that moment, like how do you feel that
moment?
What does this do to your heart?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Oh, it's the best feeling there is.
It's talk about addiction.
I'm addicted to that.
I'm addicted to that fact, thatjoy that it gives me.
You know, I've hadopportunities to perform at
places and get a good paycheckand that's great.
Of course I like that, butthere's nothing like that moment
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when they're true.
Just the other day we did ashow on the Catskills and it was
for pride, and afterwards wetake pictures with the audience.
And somebody came up and wascrying and they said they were
about to get top surgery thisweek and they were in a very
difficult place.
They were transitioning thelast couple of months.
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They were in a difficult placeand that drag queens saved their
life and they hugged us intears and their parents were
very supportive and are standingoff to the side and they were
just full of joy.
And I'm saying to myself thisperson was at the end of their
rope and just seeingperformances, seeing the
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positivity that drag performerscan exude, saved a life.
That's the best payment thereis.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I love it, oh, I love it, and I have to tell you this
quick story talking aboutchange.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
And I have to tell you this quick story talking
about change.
My father and I had a horrible,horrible relationship Physical,
verbal spit in my face when Icame out Fast forward, literally
, literally, fast forward.
Years later we kind of tolerateeach other.
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I just thought to myself wenever made it, we never got
along.
If he passes, he passes, well,my mother passes, and it kind of
wakes him up and he starts toget closer to his kids.
He's a US marshal, tough guy,you know, try to beat the girl
out of me kind of guy.
And he started to age and I gotbooked in Scranton, pennsylvania
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, at a Toyota dealership that'show big of a star I am.
And I had to go to do a showthere because they were doing
Kinky Boots and they wanted adrag queen from the area to come
in and talk about.
You know the love between afather and a son.
And so I was singing, I go, Igo to.
I was supposed to sing somesongs and tell some stories
while I go to visit my fatherand he said I see, you have a
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show tonight at the Toyotadealership.
He's like, yeah, I'm coming.
I said dad, no, things aregetting good with this.
I got sober, I'm realizing Icould forgive him and he says,
no, I'm coming to your show.
I kind of like freaked out.
I was like I don't want to ruinwhat we've got.
He shows up, he comes backstageotherwise known as the sales
department and says he says,eddie, you look beautiful and
(38:36):
this is something I neverthought I'd hear.
Well, I go out and I do my showand we take a picture and a few
months my father passes awayand I was there for every moment
of that time and you know howwe all have those little special
jewelry boxes with things hehad and my social media post.
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His friend sent it to himthrough email and he said did
you see kasha at the toyotadealers?
And he said no, no, that's myson, eddie, and I am so very
proud.
And I thought this man wouldnever change and never get it.
And it's possible.
So when we think about thathate and that anger and these
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things can happen when you loveyourself and you're true to
yourself and you show up mymakeup looks good today.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
We're not gonna ruin it.
We're not gonna do that yeahyeah, oh my gosh.
Okay, that story was beautiful,like I love how, if we just take
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the time to just accept peopleas who they are, people can
change.
Yes, people can change.
We just have to find that light.
Which brings me to why we'retalking about helping people.
My favorite segment of the show, ask Alicia, where you send me
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your questions via DM or emailand we answer them live on the
show.
So I usually ask my guests togo first.
But this is the question fromJasmine in Atlanta.
She asked Alicia, how do youkeep showing up when the world
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tries to shut you down?
Baby, I go through that on aregular basis.
So, ms Kasha Davis, I'll letyou answer this question first,
honey.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
I show up for little Eddie because little Eddie is
still alive within me and didn'tget a chance, and so I don't
want to let him down.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
You see, my makeup is pretty.
My makeup is pretty.
You're stunning.
Piggybacking off of all of that, jasmine, let me just say this
you don't show up just becauseit's easy.
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You don't show up just becauseof other people.
You show up because yourpurpose is bigger than their
noise.
You show up because yourpurpose is bigger than their
noise.
You show up because yourpurpose is bigger.
It's bigger than their noise.
It's bigger than what theythink.
It's bigger than what the worldwants you to be.
(41:57):
It's bigger, it's.
You Show up because there'ssomeone watching you, and that
someone is you.
That someone is you.
You've been waiting on you toshow up.
Show up, show up bigger, showup better.
Show up.
Stop trying to figure out howto shine and just shine.
Just shine Unapologetically.
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Stop trying to figure it out.
Just do it, because not onlyare you enough, you are more
than enough.
The world will just have tocatch up on you.
The world will just have tocatch up.
The moment you stop, the momentyou stop showing up, the moment
that you silence theirpermission, that's when you're
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going to blow like the diamondthat you are.
I say this all the time If thesun does not ask permission to
shine, then why the hell shouldyou Just shine?
So I hope that that answersyour question, ms Jasmine, in
Atlanta, and if you have aquestion that you want to want
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me to answer me and my guests toanswer on my show, email, dm,
send a carrier pigeon to in thepassenger seat and ask Alethea.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Come on, carrier pigeon Okay.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
I don't care how you get here.
Yes, so we have a game.
I like to play the rapid firegames and hit the gas with Miss
Kasha Davis.
Hit the gas.
Quick questions, quick answers.
(43:56):
Okay, not even going to thinkabout the first word that comes,
one word that describes yourcurrent season of life.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Glowing, glowing, glowing bitch.
Glowing, she's glowing Period,period yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Your go-to mantra when the wig goes on and the
lights hit.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
There's always time for kindness.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Always, always.
What surprised you the mostabout life after Drag Race?
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Oh, the possibilities .
I had in my mind that you know,you get on the drag tour or you
get on the nightclubs, you getnightclub gigs.
The possibilities of otherthings like this drag story hour
, teaching at a college,speaking engagements and lifting
(45:10):
people up.
So the possibilities, they'retruly endless again when you're
living your authentic self.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
The dream project that is on your vision board
right now.
Project that is on your visionboard right now.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
My children's program Getting to a Network
Imagination Station.
So it's currently on YouTube,but it was picked up by PBS and
then, when all the politicaldrag is horrible, they pulled so
to get someone to pick up thischildren's.
Imagine Mrs Doubtfire hostingPee Wee's Playhouse in Mr
(45:46):
Rogers' neighborhood and that'sthe show.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
See, okay, well, I need everybody to go and look
for on YouTube.
Imagination Station yes, KeepImagination Station alive.
Open your mind, let your kidsknow it is okay to express
themselves, it is okay to beexactly who they are, it is okay
(46:11):
, and do not let the world keepyou from being your authentic
self.
Imagination station Look us upon YouTube, because I am going
to subscribe today, so youshould too.
Okay, miss Kasha, before we endthis, can you please tell us
(46:32):
where to find everything?
Miss Kasha Davis.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Well, I'm available.
You can find Mrs Kasha Davis onInstaSnatch, twatter, face
Place and MyChart.
No, you can find me everywhereat Mrs Kasha Davis.
But I just want to say againwe're talking about
manifestation, we're talkingabout positivity, we're talking
about dreams, and you know thisbecause you're so popular and
(46:58):
you get these messages.
And when I got that message foryou, I was like is this real
life?
This is such a gift.
You are so beautiful.
You bring so much joy to peopleand I am like this is the best
day.
I've just been out on the roaddoing pride stuff and shows and
I'm grateful, grateful, grateful.
(47:19):
But I was like the last thing Iget to do.
I have a couple of days off andI got to spend it with you.
I am honestly like justoverwhelmed.
So I just want to say trulyremember to people out there
listening follow your dreams,because I didn't expect this
connection and I'm supergrateful for it.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Oh, I have been getting confirmations all day
long and you have no idea.
You guys know I'm verytransparent about everything I
go through and everything I dealwith.
Oh, let me try to keep ittogether.
You know how.
(48:02):
You have those moments whereyou have that doubt, and I have
been having a lot of thosemoments lately where I was
questioning is this still whatI've been called to do, or
(48:28):
should I just go back toteaching and just give this all
up?
Is it still worth me doing?
Do I still have a place in this?
And I asked God.
I said you know what, if thisis what you really want to
(48:51):
continue to do because I knowthat you did not bring me this
far just to have me go backwardsgive me some type of sign.
And I waited, I waited, Iwaited, I waited.
This morning I went to thedoctor's office and she pretty
(49:12):
much told me the same thing thatyou just did.
And then you come on here andthen you tell me this yeah, yes,
thank you for thank you.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
I know I believe in my intuition, I believe in my
maybe it's my psychic ability.
This is the beginning.
This is the beginning for you.
It's bigger than we canvisualize sometimes and you are
saving lives.
You are touching people's liveswith these moments of
(49:46):
positivity and joy and you'reauthentically just and you have
a team.
You know everyone I've met withand worked with and preparing
this.
We're behind you, and sosometimes we need each other to
lift each other up like this,and these connections are meant
to happen.
But yes, it is just thebeginning.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
You have made me cry, so now you're my best friend.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Well, good, I mean, I can't wait.
I can't wait for what's nextand I'm going to be there to
support you every step of theway.
I know so many people who justgravitate to your authentic
kindness and just sharing thatlove.
So, thank you and I know Ispeak for everyone watching.
We are here for you, to liftyou up, thank you.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
This last segment is also one of my favorites.
It's called Pass it On.
It's a message that you want toshare with either my next best
or anybody watching.
What would that message thatpass it on message be?
(51:06):
Usually, that's the question Iask.
But what I want to ask you,what message would you pass on
to little Eddie?
Speaker 2 (51:21):
I knew you were going to do that to little eddie.
I knew you were gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
So just close your eyes.
Yeah, vision that little eddie,that little boy that grew up in
that small town where peoplewere just like you know what.
You are never gonna amount toanything and you shouldn't do
this and you shouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
Close your eyes and imagine you standing in front of
you right now I first will saylittle eddie, I love you and I
want you to love yourself.
Give it a try, it's going to beokay.
(52:08):
And I am going to be here foryou in ways that those that you
trusted most could not be.
And I challenge little Eddie tothink that maybe it's going to
(52:33):
be okay, because as a little boy, I just felt like everyone
hated me and I had to put onthese shows and try to please
everyone on these shows and tryto to please everyone.
But I'm so proud of how strongI was as a little boy to to
fight through the best way Icould.
(52:53):
But now it's time for us toshine together because I take, I
take him everywhere I go andI'm I want him to see that this
is what we were meant to dotogether.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
I need you to know that I love you not just for
being Miss Kasha Davis, I loveyou for being Eddie.
Oh, thank you.
And the world loves you notjust for being the amazing Miss
(53:32):
Kasha Davis, the world loves youfor being Eddie.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Well, thank you.
And Eddie is here, and I alwayssay Mrs Kasha Davis is Eddie,
with an exclamation point Iwasn't able to like the color
pink, and now I've got pinkdresses, or whatever the case
may be, but little Eddie alwayswanted everybody else to be okay
(54:02):
too.
So I want little Eddie to knowthat he's okay and it's okay for
him to be, to be free and tojust be himself.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Oh, this is the best show ever.
This is the best show ever.
This is everything.
Oh, thank you for being here.
Thank you for taking time outof your day, thank you for
taking time out of your schedule, for just being in the
passenger seat with me today, toeveryone watching and listening
.
If this spoke to your soul likeit spoke to mine, send this to
(54:36):
somebody that needs a reminderthat it's going to be okay, it's
going to be okay.
Hard days come, it's going tobe okay, it's going to be okay.
Yes, hard days come, it's goingto be okay.
You can do hard things.
Just continue to show up,continue being great in your own
face so you can go out thereand be extraordinary in theirs,
(55:00):
because that's what you'resupposed to do.
Because that's what you'resupposed to do, kasha, know that
you are welcome back anytimethat you want to come and sit in
the passenger seat with me.
Know that you are welcome.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Oh, I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (55:16):
Thank you so much.
Y'all, please, please, please,like, follow, share, subscribe,
go and show Ms Kasha Davis somelove and imagination.
Station today Lead with love,lead with kindness, be great in
your days and, as always, youhave a good day.
(55:38):
I'm perfect now, see ya, you.
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