February 3, 2025 • 36 mins
Max Ray, the phenomenal pop artist known for her vibrant nineties-inspired sound, joins me for an inspiring conversation on "In the Passenger Seat with Alethea Crimmins." Discover how this singer, dancer, and songwriter transitioned to pursuing a music production degree at Berkeley, and how she channels authenticity and positivity through her hit tracks like "Tattoo" and "Nice Guy Syndrome." Max shares an exciting sneak peek of her upcoming collaboration with Montel Jordan, reimagining his iconic hit "This Is How We Do It" for today's audience.
Performing at pride shows has been a remarkable experience, filled with vibrant energy and profound connections with the audience. I share cherished moments from this journey, including meeting fans in Chicago and performing at the iconic London Palladium. With my mother as my stylist, her talent and support have been my foundation, especially during personal challenges like my parents' divorce and a recent breakup. Despite these obstacles, my faith and her unwavering encouragement have kept me grounded and motivated to spread positivity, love, and joy.
This episode also celebrates the strength of being single and the empowerment that comes with self-worth. We emphasize the importance of valuing personal growth and maintaining positive energy by surrounding ourselves with people who truly add value to our lives. Get ready to be inspired by the creative process behind my mini movie-like music videos, offering a deeper understanding of my songs. Don't miss the vibrant energy of Max Ray and our conversation's reminder to embrace greatness with confidence. As always, I encourage you to have a good day on purpose and look forward to welcoming you back in the passenger seat.
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hello, hello everybody, and welcome to In the
Passenger Seat with AletheaCrimmins, your positivity queen,
honey.
So y'all know me.
I am your neighborhood hypegirl.
I hype everybody up from my car, so why not let my podcast be
in my car?
Listen, guess who is in thepassenger seat today?
(00:42):
Baby, if y'all do not know whoshe is after, today you are
going to know who this amazingpop artist is, baby.
She has phenomenal music rightnow.
Her vibe is everything.
If y'all haven't heard the songTattoo, go download it today.
If, which is one of my favoritesongs, if go download it today.
(01:04):
She has been on tour.
She has been everywhere.
She's worked with amazingartists.
Baby, let me introduce you tothe person in my passenger seat
today, max Rice.
Come on in, max.
What's going on, max?
How you doing?
I'm great.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
doing?
I am good and you are lookinggorgeous.
Can I just tell you that I'mgreat.
How are you doing?
I am good and you are lookinggorgeous.
Can I just tell you that?
So?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
are you?
Oh, my God, thank you, you'reglowing.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I mean, you know, it's a little bit of gloss.
It's a little bit of gloss, Ilove it.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
That's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Tell everybody who does not know who Max Ray is.
Who is Max Ray?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
What a loaded question.
Who is Max Ray?
Well, I'm a singer first.
I'm a dancer as well asongwriter, and I'm also getting
my music production degree atBerkeley right now online.
To put another thing in theamount of all the things that I
do with this industry, all of mymusic I have written or
(02:06):
co-written myself, which isreally exciting.
So when you listen to Tattooand stuff like that, of course
my biggest thing is beingauthentic to me and my brand and
my biggest goal is to be apositive impact in this world,
especially in the music industry.
It can be so dark it can, youknow, having a light in that.
That that's my main goal andthat's why I love you and your
(02:28):
podcast and how positiveeverything is.
It's just right in line with meand I love that.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So your music the the genre.
I know that a lot of peopledon't like the.
Well, what, what genre are youin?
But when I hear your music, myfavorite genre is nineties Like
I, like I love nineties music,like I just love it.
It just makes you feel good.
(02:56):
So your music has that type ofvibe what, what in in inspired
that sound.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
What?
What in inspired that sound?
I have always loved thenineties.
I'm not a nineties kid, I'monly 23, but I've always found
like Saved by the Bell used tobe one of my favorite shows when
I was growing up.
I loved that vibe, Like ZachMorris all the way, and oh my
gosh.
There was just so many thingsabout that show that I loved,
and even one of my songs, NiceGuy Syndrome, like even Clueless
, like oh my gosh.
(03:26):
That movie changed everythingfor me like I can't, and so I
did a whole song called Nice GuySyndrome, which even the cover
I'm I'm doing homage to, ofcourse, clueless and everything,
and I just love that vibe and Ithink there's just so much,
there was so much realnessduring that time and, and even
sophistication, even with thesyncopations of the rhythms, I
just I fell in love with it andI was like why?
(03:46):
Why are we taking that away?
We should always have it here,you know.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I think in the nineties, like everybody was
just about having fun, like allthe all the like music was just
let's just have fun, let's justhave a good time, because I
don't remember any any ninetiessong that was about sadness or
(04:10):
hurting, and like it was allabout I'm feeling good, I want
you to feel good, so let's feelgood together.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I love that Totally and I, um, I can give you an
exclusive.
I'm just going to do it.
I don't know if my public ishere.
Yes, um, since we're talkingabout it, it's the perfect topic
.
So I was in London last yearand which was crazy for me in
the first right and I wrote somemusic while I was out there and
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the last day I wrote 10 songsin 10 days.
The last day was a Friday nightthere and the last day I wrote
10 songs in 10 days.
The last day was a Friday nightand I wanted to flip one of my
favorite iconic 90s songs, um,and I flipped this is how we do
it by Montel Jordan.
I wanted to make it where youcould like, bring this into our,
my generation here, and um, Iflipped it, made a little more
(05:01):
dancey, a little more pop, andmy publicist actually knows
Montel Jordan played it for him.
He fell in love and now him andI are doing this track together
and we are releasing a musicvideo at the beginning of this
year.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So that's something to look forward to Listen and
that I was going to add Becausewhen I saw that, I was like this
is one of the most iconic feelgood songs of the 90s.
Every time you went to like ablock party, like you couldn't
go to a concert, you could notgo anywhere without hearing this
(05:37):
is how we do it.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
This is how we do it.
This is how we do it.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yes, and it just made you feel good every single time
you heard it and I love, I love, I love, I love that you are
bringing that positivity, thatyou are bringing that feel good
music into the now, because,more than anything, we need to
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feel good right now.
So I love that you are doingthat thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, I think we all need to find silver linings in
this day and age and find thefun.
Um.
That's why, like when peopleask, like what's your genre and
stuff like that or what's yourmusical style, I always say I
would hope if you could putBruno Mars and pink into an
artist.
That would be me and I lovewhat pink does.
She's very popular.
Bruno Mars is super unseriousbut super sophisticated with the
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way that he does his music.
Like he's another artist thatis taking the nineties and
bringing it back, which I loveas well.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So Cause I was.
I was just going to ask youwhat artist inspires you, or
inspired you Like.
If you can listen to one albumfrom start to finish, not skip
one and just vibe the wholeentire time, who would it be?
(07:02):
What album?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
and why?
Oh my gosh, that's like areally hard question.
There's multiple.
The first one that comes to myhead, because I just talked
about bruno, was 24 karat magic.
That was literal gold.
Um, the amount of grand musicwon for that was so well earned,
um, and every single one ofthose.
So I know all the words and allthings.
I love that album but if I hadto like, bring it back even a
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little more dangerous.
Michael Jackson Hands down,hands down, not you being an MJ
fan Listen, huge, huge MJ fanListen.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
So you are also a dancer, so did he also inspire
your dancing as well, and howlong have you been dancing?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yes, he was a big inspiration and he was a big
inspiration for me to make danceand singing together.
There was this moment, Iremember, when he popped up from
the stage in like that toasterpop-up, and he just stood there
and people were freaking out,passing out ambulances.
It just brought me to tears,chills, goosebumps everywhere,
and I was like this is what Iwant to do.
(08:08):
This is what I want to do.
I love him so much and I'vebeen dancing since I was two
really since I could walk and mymom put me in ballet but hip
hop has become my thing.
I've done it all though tap andjazz and lyrical contemporary,
all of it.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Now.
You've been on tour all over,like you've been all over the
world, and you've done a wholelot of pride events, which I
love because that's my community, so I love it like what.
What has been like one of your?
Like when you got on stage thatfirst time, when you were like,
okay, I'm going on tour, butfirst of all I'm going on tour.
(08:50):
And when you got on stage, whatwas your first?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
thought is this real?
Um, because this was my firsttour ever.
Uh was last year in the springand I was in the UK and I got to
play some amazing venues thatI've never even thought of.
The amount of beauty in Londonand in the iconic artists have
graced this stage, so one.
(09:16):
I was like, am I even worthy?
And then I was thinking, okay,here I am, let's, let's embrace
this.
Wait, is this real?
And then it just somethingclicked with me and I was like
this is why I'm doing what I'mdoing, this is why I love what
I'm doing, like all of the stuffthat you have to deal with on
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the industry side and the peopleand the things that you like
I've had a fight to even likeget to where I am, but this was
so worth it to be right here inthis moment, like I was.
I mean, honestly, it's hard toeven describe.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Funny if that is not a message for some body, because
that that is always how I feel,like when I first stepped into
a room, like when I'm speaking,when I'm anywhere, I'm like how,
how did I get here?
Is this real, do I even belonghere?
(10:12):
But I worked hard to get inthis room.
I belong in this room, I belongin this space because this is
my moment, so I'm going toembrace my moments like this.
Moment belongs to me, and thatis the most amazing feeling in
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the world it, is it?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
um?
Yeah, I mean honestly justmakes everything, all of the
stuff before, so so worth it, it, just, it just makes all the
bullshit that you've beenthrough back I don't know if I
can cuss on this podcast girl.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yes, ma'am, you just be you.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I was so trying.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, bullshit is the perfect word, like it's just
like all all the bullshit that Ihave overcome and I have been
through.
This is why this is yes, andand all the like haters that
were like, oh well, you werenever, oh well, you're not gonna
.
It's like, fuck you.
(11:23):
It's like, look at me now.
It's like, look at me now,bitch, look at me, I'm on the
same stage as david bowie whenhe was on the same level.
Yes, yes, yes, like that.
That is uh, amazing.
Now I love, like I before, thatyou also do a lot of work for
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the girls, for the kids, for thekikis, for the gorgeous ones.
Okay, like, when did that comeabout?
Like doing all these prideshows?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Well, I have a really good booking agent based out of
New York and I met him throughmy publicist and he just I was
like, oh my gosh, like your,your whole vibe and your sound
would work so well for thesepride performances and all of
these.
And I was like I would.
I mean again, I'm all aboutpositivity, I'm all about love,
I'm all about spreading joy,happiness, peace, love, all the
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things.
So I was like let's do it.
And I just there's so muchbeauty and I love a good kiki
and I love a good sassy, fiercewalk.
Like I've actually been reallyinspired by that community in a
lot of ways, just even on aconfidence alone, and I was like
, yes, please, and thank you.
So I was able to do a lot ofthem and, oh my gosh, like the,
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the people are just so lovelyand down to earth.
And like I found like myself,oh my gosh.
And then in Chicago, one ofthem, like I was in Chicago and
I love Chicago so much.
Love you, love you, love you.
I had a couple come up to meand they're like, can we be your
president of your fan club?
Like I'll never forget that.
And they were just so kind andlovely and I was just like I
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love.
I love you people so much.
I love you people so much.
I do love you so much, so I'vejust enjoyed it every step of
the way and I should be doingthem again this summer, so I'm
excited.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Well, I hope.
Please let me know which onesyou will be at, because I would
love to catch one, because Ithink so.
Little known fact my innerperson is a drag queen Like my
inner.
I am a drag queen Like I.
My inner, I am a drag queen.
(13:35):
My spirit is a drag queen LikeI'm just all of it.
Yeah, oh, my God, in my heart Iam a drag queen.
But yes, I would love, I wouldlove to see you perform.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I'd love to see you perform.
Are you love to see you perform?
Are you kidding me, Listen?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
girl, I want to see you work In my heart.
I am a drag queen In my heart.
That is who I am.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I love it.
I love it.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
So you talked about one of your best moments, and
that was when the couple hadwalked up to you.
What was your best moment ontour?
Like your best, like oh, yes,yes, yes, yes, moment.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I would say what was nice is.
I didn't do a lot of researchon these theaters in the UK
because I was so nervous, likeif it was Madison Square Garden.
It's like you know the weightof that.
Yes, there's the LondonPalladium, which is like the
step down from Madison SquareGarden, probably other like
Wembley's, the big one, butLondon Palladium is super iconic
(14:45):
and I played three sold out umshows there and um, even without
knowing all of the history, ofcourse, I looked it up after.
I just didn't want to psychmyself out too much.
You could feel it and theenergy in the air and the major
press was there and I beautifulwrite-ups from the sun and daily
(15:05):
star and all these amazingwhich I never thought would be
possible and, um, that stagealone.
That was like I've made it,I've totally made it and I just
like every time I was just sograteful and honored to even be
on that stage and the write-upswere so beautiful.
My mom, um, it's really funny,she's my stylist.
I've had many stylists but likeand then your mother and she has
(15:26):
a degree in it, um, at theLondon college of style.
No-transcript if we're goodenough or if we're, you know.
(15:59):
Yes, of course, as my mom.
People question, oh if she'sjust your mom?
No, she's actually really goodat what she does.
She's super talented, and thatfact that she got to get some
validation for that, shedeserved it, and so that was
definitely one of my favoritemoments that is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Come on, mother styling.
Come on, mother, I just lovethat.
Okay, I love the the mom,because this, this little fancy
jacket that like you have on thelike oh, yes, that was.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
This was actually Christmas present from her.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yes, baby, baby mama is stylish, do you understand me
?
Okay, so I am big on motivation.
I am everybody's hype girl, butnot every day we feel like
being positive.
Not every day we wake up andlike, oh my God, the heels are a
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lot Like.
We don't always feel like that.
So what keeps you motivated ondays that you just like I don't
want to do this shit?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I mean, we're all human and it's so, so normal, so
natural.
And I've gone through a lot ofshit.
If, like, let me tell you, um,even in this past year, my
parents are going through adivorce and, um, I just broke up
with my boyfriend like there'sa lot happening, a lot of shit,
but and and you know, I'vealways found I was raised right,
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though my mom was such a goodsource of grounding for me, my
spiritual leader, like I'm alsoa Christian, I love Jesus, so
that helps me through a lot, andthat's just like that's.
If I didn't have that firmfoundation, I would not be this
positive person that you seeevery day, cause I do not get my
strength from myself, that'sfor sure.
I get it from.
God and I, just I can't, I can'tbe more thankful for that
(17:51):
because it's really helped methrough.
You know the shit that,especially last year, was there
was so many highs, of course, oftour and stuff like that.
But personal life, I meanfinding that like strength and
energy to get through thosehighs and make it something
worth something, without goingthrough and getting into those
deep dark holes.
That was huge for me.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I don't even have to ask you like, who do you most
admire?
Because it sounds like it's momfor sure.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
She's the strongest person I've ever met, like truly
.
And she's the positive like Icould cry about it honestly and
like her.
Um, why am I getting emotional?
Oh my gosh, her support isamazing, but she's so strong
like if I could ever think ofsomeone who is so positive in
the midst of so much shit comingup against her like insane
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insane.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
That is beautiful, oh you're not you making me
emotional, I have that effect onpeople, but I mean some like
sometimes we don't realize howspecial people are until we
start to hear ourselves talkabout them and it just kind of
(19:12):
like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like you know, becauseoftentimes we take for granted
the people in our lives andbecause we just feel like, okay,
yeah, you know they're going tobe in my corner, until we start
talking about how amazing theyare.
And then it hits you howamazing they are and it's just
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like oh my gosh, like I, I havesome amazing people riding for
me that will always be therethrough my shit.
No, what?
Like they will be there andthat is an amazing thing to have
.
So you said that you have gonethrough a lot, you've been
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through a lot, you've had abreakup, like you've dealt with
a lot.
How do you feel like this haschanged who you are?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Well, I this was my first boyfriend too.
I was single for 20 years.
I was good being single.
I was single until I was 20years old, and I love being
single.
I'm really happy with myself.
I like being alone, which isgreat, and I think going through
finally a relationship hashelped, of course, shape my
music and make me feel like morehuman.
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I've gotten to be, anexperience.
I feel like more human, likeI've gotten an experience, and
so that's.
That's nice, that I finallyhave that experience and I'm
really grateful for it.
And I think that that's justanother learning curve and
something that we all have tolive through with life, and but
I think I'm a lot stronger forit Now.
I've learned a lot about myselfthrough that relationship too
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and I just think I'm a lotbetter for it and I'm really I
mean, I've never been the typeto like meet a guy.
I'm not looking for one.
I wasn't looking for one when Igot a boyfriend.
I'm still not looking for one,because I'm again real good,
like if God brings one along,okay, we'll see.
But, um, I'm really happy to besingle.
Like it.
It was a big strain, especiallywith touring and traveling so
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much, and like I am living thispop singer life and I am not
stopping, like I've always beena boss babe and I just I ain't
stopping anytime soon.
And, honestly, it's nice tojust now be able to think about
me, because I, when I'm in arelationship, I truly dive in
and I think about the otherperson a lot, um, a lot more
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than myself, and I think thatthat's great in some ways, but
I've neglected myself for fartoo long and that's yes, we're,
we're done with that okay,because, because we're, because
it is your me season, you areputting you first.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
It is your me season.
I'm not.
I will no longer put myself onthe back burner, for no one
correct.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, three and a half years, we're done now
listen, I it y'all.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Y'all heard that it's me season.
You heard it from that.
Look y'all, stop putting allyour ducks in in everybody.
Stop putting all your eggs ineverybody else's basket.
Put it in your own, becausethey're going to eat and you're
not going to eat Like we don'tdo that, you'll lose yourself in
the process.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Let's not do that.
Let's not do that.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Listen, oh my gosh, I love your outlook on things.
Like you don't have this.
Oh whoa, it's me, you know,like I, I love your outlook on
things.
And I also loved when you saidand I wanted you to just just go
into it just just a little bitwhen you said I was good at
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being single, because a lot ofpeople feel like, oh well for
you single, like what's wrongwith you, like you're single,
like, so I?
I loved when you said I'm goodat being single.
What does that mean to?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
you.
I think that's being reallysecure in yourself and liking
being alone and spending timewith yourself, and I think again
my mom raised me right.
I know my value, my worth doesnot come from a man.
I know like I've been reallygrateful to have such an amazing
support system to help raise meto be really good at being
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single, and I think, at the endof the day, if you don't add to
my life, then you're'resubtracting from it.
There's no reason.
I am really good.
No, thank you.
I deserve what I deserve, andif you cannot bring that to me,
then no, then no, and I'm Ialready.
I know I'm young, but I'm, Ifeel, way too old to be dealing
with any more negativity, anymore jealousy, any more of just
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the bullshit that people like to, of course, throw at this
industry too, and even some men.
So you know, I'm good, like I,I'm really happy just being
alone and I like spending timewith myself and I like doing
things alone and I'm reallysolid, I guess um, with how I
feel about myself.
So I don't really feel like Ineed to go look for it in other
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places or in other people.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I don't know if y'all heard the knowledge that Matt
just dropped on us, bitch, Idon't know if y'all heard the
knowledge.
She said who are the people inthe back?
She said who are the people inthe back.
She said, and I quote bitch, ifyou're not adding to my life,
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you are subtracting from it.
If the math ain't mapping, themath ain't mapping.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
If the math ain't mapping Bye-bye you out.
I don't even need you.
Save you next.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Okay, so I just need y'all.
She said one more time if youain't adding to it, then you are
subtracting from it.
So come on, max, droppingknowledge on us today.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I say, wait a minute.
Professor Max in the building,just kidding.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Okay, Maybe she took that mic and said nah.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
She likes a good mic drop, and that is what it was.
I was like, oh so yeah,everybody who's out there that's
single, be good at being single.
Be good at being single, begood for you, be good for
yourself, and it is okay to besingle until the right person
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comes into your life, and if not, then just be good at being
just for you, good at being youJust for you.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Good at being you.
Yeah, and I mean you can't begood for anyone else until
you're good for yourself anyway.
It's just, it's not evenpossible.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I mean you just can't , I just I'm going to need to
get me a mic, a microphone,because every time we Can, she
just that's what the mic drop.
Like, baby, if you ain't goodfor you, then you can't be good
(26:24):
for them.
Like y'all, just two not goodpeople and y'all gonna make a
not good situation, so we're notgonna do that, okay so so I'm
gonna just be good at beingmyself.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, the best that you are for you.
So I'm going to just be good atbeing myself, the best that you
are for you, the best that willcome your way.
Like you attract, of course,what you give out and what you
exude.
So if you're so happy andconfident with yourself and like
super, super secure and likeyou'll get that, like you'll get
someone who can trust you andthat's not insecure and happy
with themselves because you'rejust going to attract that
anyway, so it's just, you know,that's the math, that will math.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
The other way.
A-mathin Baby, I don't knowabout y'all, but I love me some
Max Ray Like I love me some MaxRay, Like, oh my gosh, so you so
.
Is this where you get all yourinspiration from your music that
(27:25):
you write yourself?
Like you said, I wrote 10 songsin 10 days and I'm just like
what, so like, do you just getall this from just life and
positivity and just what?
Where?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
do you get it from?
I, I get it from life, for sure.
I have a running note in myphone.
Um, if I'm even out and I'meavesdropping on a conversation
and someone says something I'mlike that would be a good line
for a song, I write it down orlike not wait, wait, not well,
when you're alone, sometimeslike you just everyone does it.
(28:04):
Let's be real.
Okay, if you're really obvious,it's just really hard not to um
, so definitely do that.
Um, I've been like thetherapist for my friend group,
so they'll come to me with likerelationship advice which I find
really like very sweet.
And so sometimes I'm like, hey,I kind of could make that a
song.
So I write that down.
I mean, and there's mostly whatI do.
Even if it's like a superserious topic, I find the silver
(28:27):
lining in it.
Of course I'm authentic to thatwhat emotional weight that
holds in a song.
But I'm also and sometimesthat's what it's needed, but
majority of the time I'll givethat's space and then always
find a way to find the silverlining, just because it's just
who I am and I want to.
Of course we all feel thosehuman emotions, but we want to
(28:47):
pick ourselves up and carry backon and be stronger for whatever
we've gone through.
So I always try to make that abig point.
But yeah, I just get it from myown personal experiences, from
other people's experiences, thatthey come to me for just just
life in general.
Whatever I'm experiencing, Ilove it.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
So let's have a little bit of fun.
Um, before I let you go, yourmost embarrassing moment go uh,
everyday life.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Um, okay, uh, I'm most embarrassing moment.
Oh, okay, this people might notthink this is embarrassing, but
I did one night on tour um, I,I was performing, this is how we
do it.
Uh, that our version.
Um, just me and the music.
It was the finale, like thelast song, and the music cut out
and so I was pretending to bethe instruments, like on the mic
(29:41):
, acapella's, like, like, and itwas.
For me it was like, but I haddancers behind me and I wanted
them to still be able to moveand like, so I just became all
the instruments and I got offstage thinking what the hell did
I just do?
Um, my dancers were laughing,but they also said that was
super iconic, but for me it waslike, so embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yes, because it was like dancing, dancing.
I bet that was awesome.
I bet that was awesome to see.
So you only have a second tothink and answer these questions
(30:22):
.
Just a second, okay, okay.
If you could eat one food forthe rest of your life, what
would it be?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
pasta, celebrity crush I literally I went blank.
I used to have so manycelebrity crushes, like Justin
Bieber was one, so I'll go withthat Justin Bieber if you had
one superpower, what would it be?
To fly.
(30:52):
Really, yeah, that'd be fun.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I feel like if I could read someone's mind, I'd
go crazy you, yeah, you, youright about that, but that was,
it was a close second so if youhad, if you can tell any,
(31:16):
because I I am so for like womenempowerment, like I'm so for
like women.
So if you had to talk to youryounger self first, what would
you tell little Max Ray rightnow?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
That's so sweet.
I would tell her that you needto calm down.
You overthink way too much likechill, it's okay, you're not
gonna die, you're, everything'sgonna be okay.
And I just wanted to give her abig hug and just tell her to
breathe more and to be morepresent, because those moments
that our childhood make up and Ihad some really good moments
(31:58):
like those go away way too fast.
So enjoy the naps, enjoyplaying outside, enjoy those
moments with your friends,because, like, that's all you're
going to get, so enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
That's what I'd say.
And one last question, beforewe let you go, okay, before we
let you go okay, if you had tosay anything to young girls that
say you know what, I don't knowwhat, what I want to be in in
(32:30):
life, I think I want to do music, I think I want to dance, but I
just don't know if I'm goodenough to make it, what would
you tell young girls?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I've been in the same exact boat, same shoes as you
and I think it's very normal,natural, to feel that way.
Don't beat yourself up, butperseverance is the biggest key.
I mean, there's a lot offailures, you're going to get, a
lot of no's You're going to get.
You're going to have to fight alot for yourself and for what
you want, but it's thepersevering that's my biggest
(33:01):
word.
That's kind of really clickedfor me.
If you just keep going, it will, it will happen, especially if
you have that passion.
Just keep the passion, keepyour faith, keep going, keep
working, keep pushing.
It's all worth it in the endand I promise, promise you, if
you just keep going and you keepmaking an effort, it will
happen, it will.
(33:21):
That's why you have to keeptelling yourself too it will
happen, like I think, no matterwhat.
You just have to have PMA,positive mental attitude always.
Yes, I love it, I just think youjust can't let the negative
thoughts win.
I think it's really easy forthat to happen, but as long as
you just keep going, keeppersevering, it will happen.
And that's all you have to keeptelling yourself.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
So tell us where to find you, to tell us where to
follow you, to tell us about anyupcoming things that you have
going on.
Tell us everything.
Max Ray, let's go.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
That's so sweet.
Well, you can find meeverywhere on all social media
at Max Ray M-A-X-R-A-E it's thefemale spelling On Instagram,
youtube, tiktok, which is stillhere, thank God, okay, and yeah,
youtube is really fun with allmy music videos.
They're all like little minimovies.
They give you a more clear lookinto what the songs are really
(34:20):
about from my perspective.
And, of course, spotify andApple Music Every streaming
platform you can find all mymusic.
And yeah, I mean make sure tosubscribe or follow, because
this song with Montel Jordanthat will be coming out soon is
going to be epic and I'm sohonored that him and I are doing
that together and just bringinga fresh spin to the iconic song
(34:42):
, so make sure you do that.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Um, but yeah, that's about it yes, thank you so much
for being in the passenger seatwith me today.
Oh my gosh, anytime that youwant to come back and sit in the
passenger seat with me, you aremore than welcome.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Thank you, I would love to Anytime.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I hope that you guys enjoyed Max Ray as much as I did
.
Go and follow her, go subscribeto her channel, go, do all the
things Max, max rate, becauseI'm telling you it's worth the
listen.
It's worth the listen Y'all.
She is amazing.
She is amazing and I just lovetalking to you.
(35:32):
I love your spirit, I loveeverything about you, okay.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Same here.
Oh my gosh, I love you so muchand I love this podcast.
Oh my gosh, you're doing agreat job.
This is great work.
Like I love this.
Please keep doing this, liketruly people.
We need this, we need thisspace.
So please keep this up andthank you, and I'd love to be
back.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
As you go out there and be great in their face, know
that you are everything andeverything is you, honey, know
that you are the shit, the wholeshit and nothing but the shit.
So you go out there and be badand it's like I know you can be
and, as always, you have a goodday on purpose.
Hell, you're welcome.
I am the sunshine of my lifeand, as always, you have a good
(36:28):
day on purpose.
Ma'am, you're welcome.
Hello, hello everybody, and welcome to In the
Passenger Seat with AletheaCrimmins, your positivity queen,
honey.
So y'all know me.
I am your neighborhood hypegirl.
I hype everybody up from my car, so why not let my podcast be
in my car?
Listen, guess who is in thepassenger seat today?
(00:42):
Baby, if y'all do not know whoshe is after, today you are
going to know who this amazingpop artist is, baby.
She has phenomenal music rightnow.
Her vibe is everything.
If y'all haven't heard the songTattoo, go download it today.
If, which is one of my favoritesongs, if go download it today.
(01:04):
She has been on tour.
She has been everywhere.
She's worked with amazingartists.
Baby, let me introduce you tothe person in my passenger seat
today, max Rice.
Come on in, max.
What's going on, max?
How you doing?
I'm great.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
doing?
I am good and you are lookinggorgeous.
Can I just tell you that I'mgreat.
How are you doing?
I am good and you are lookinggorgeous.
Can I just tell you that?
So?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
are you?
Oh, my God, thank you, you'reglowing.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I mean, you know, it's a little bit of gloss.
It's a little bit of gloss, Ilove it.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
That's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Tell everybody who does not know who Max Ray is.
Who is Max Ray?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
What a loaded question.
Who is Max Ray?
Well, I'm a singer first.
I'm a dancer as well asongwriter, and I'm also getting
my music production degree atBerkeley right now online.
To put another thing in theamount of all the things that I
do with this industry, all of mymusic I have written or
(02:06):
co-written myself, which isreally exciting.
So when you listen to Tattooand stuff like that, of course
my biggest thing is beingauthentic to me and my brand and
my biggest goal is to be apositive impact in this world,
especially in the music industry.
It can be so dark it can, youknow, having a light in that.
That that's my main goal andthat's why I love you and your
(02:28):
podcast and how positiveeverything is.
It's just right in line with meand I love that.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So your music the the genre.
I know that a lot of peopledon't like the.
Well, what, what genre are youin?
But when I hear your music, myfavorite genre is nineties Like
I, like I love nineties music,like I just love it.
It just makes you feel good.
(02:56):
So your music has that type ofvibe what, what in in inspired
that sound.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
What?
What in inspired that sound?
I have always loved thenineties.
I'm not a nineties kid, I'monly 23, but I've always found
like Saved by the Bell used tobe one of my favorite shows when
I was growing up.
I loved that vibe, Like ZachMorris all the way, and oh my
gosh.
There was just so many thingsabout that show that I loved,
and even one of my songs, NiceGuy Syndrome, like even Clueless
, like oh my gosh.
(03:26):
That movie changed everythingfor me like I can't, and so I
did a whole song called Nice GuySyndrome, which even the cover
I'm I'm doing homage to, ofcourse, clueless and everything,
and I just love that vibe and Ithink there's just so much,
there was so much realnessduring that time and, and even
sophistication, even with thesyncopations of the rhythms, I
just I fell in love with it andI was like why?
(03:46):
Why are we taking that away?
We should always have it here,you know.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I think in the nineties, like everybody was
just about having fun, like allthe all the like music was just
let's just have fun, let's justhave a good time, because I
don't remember any any ninetiessong that was about sadness or
(04:10):
hurting, and like it was allabout I'm feeling good, I want
you to feel good, so let's feelgood together.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I love that Totally and I, um, I can give you an
exclusive.
I'm just going to do it.
I don't know if my public ishere.
Yes, um, since we're talkingabout it, it's the perfect topic
.
So I was in London last yearand which was crazy for me in
the first right and I wrote somemusic while I was out there and
(04:40):
the last day I wrote 10 songsin 10 days.
The last day was a Friday nightthere and the last day I wrote
10 songs in 10 days.
The last day was a Friday nightand I wanted to flip one of my
favorite iconic 90s songs, um,and I flipped this is how we do
it by Montel Jordan.
I wanted to make it where youcould like, bring this into our,
my generation here, and um, Iflipped it, made a little more
(05:01):
dancey, a little more pop, andmy publicist actually knows
Montel Jordan played it for him.
He fell in love and now him andI are doing this track together
and we are releasing a musicvideo at the beginning of this
year.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So that's something to look forward to Listen and
that I was going to add Becausewhen I saw that, I was like this
is one of the most iconic feelgood songs of the 90s.
Every time you went to like ablock party, like you couldn't
go to a concert, you could notgo anywhere without hearing this
(05:37):
is how we do it.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
This is how we do it.
This is how we do it.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yes, and it just made you feel good every single time
you heard it and I love, I love, I love, I love that you are
bringing that positivity, thatyou are bringing that feel good
music into the now, because,more than anything, we need to
(06:05):
feel good right now.
So I love that you are doingthat thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, I think we all need to find silver linings in
this day and age and find thefun.
Um.
That's why, like when peopleask, like what's your genre and
stuff like that or what's yourmusical style, I always say I
would hope if you could putBruno Mars and pink into an
artist.
That would be me and I lovewhat pink does.
She's very popular.
Bruno Mars is super unseriousbut super sophisticated with the
(06:33):
way that he does his music.
Like he's another artist thatis taking the nineties and
bringing it back, which I loveas well.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So Cause I was.
I was just going to ask youwhat artist inspires you, or
inspired you Like.
If you can listen to one albumfrom start to finish, not skip
one and just vibe the wholeentire time, who would it be?
(07:02):
What album?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
and why?
Oh my gosh, that's like areally hard question.
There's multiple.
The first one that comes to myhead, because I just talked
about bruno, was 24 karat magic.
That was literal gold.
Um, the amount of grand musicwon for that was so well earned,
um, and every single one ofthose.
So I know all the words and allthings.
I love that album but if I hadto like, bring it back even a
(07:24):
little more dangerous.
Michael Jackson Hands down,hands down, not you being an MJ
fan Listen, huge, huge MJ fanListen.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
So you are also a dancer, so did he also inspire
your dancing as well, and howlong have you been dancing?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yes, he was a big inspiration and he was a big
inspiration for me to make danceand singing together.
There was this moment, Iremember, when he popped up from
the stage in like that toasterpop-up, and he just stood there
and people were freaking out,passing out ambulances.
It just brought me to tears,chills, goosebumps everywhere,
and I was like this is what Iwant to do.
(08:08):
This is what I want to do.
I love him so much and I'vebeen dancing since I was two
really since I could walk and mymom put me in ballet but hip
hop has become my thing.
I've done it all though tap andjazz and lyrical contemporary,
all of it.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Now.
You've been on tour all over,like you've been all over the
world, and you've done a wholelot of pride events, which I
love because that's my community, so I love it like what.
What has been like one of your?
Like when you got on stage thatfirst time, when you were like,
okay, I'm going on tour, butfirst of all I'm going on tour.
(08:50):
And when you got on stage, whatwas your first?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
thought is this real?
Um, because this was my firsttour ever.
Uh was last year in the springand I was in the UK and I got to
play some amazing venues thatI've never even thought of.
The amount of beauty in Londonand in the iconic artists have
graced this stage, so one.
(09:16):
I was like, am I even worthy?
And then I was thinking, okay,here I am, let's, let's embrace
this.
Wait, is this real?
And then it just somethingclicked with me and I was like
this is why I'm doing what I'mdoing, this is why I love what
I'm doing, like all of the stuffthat you have to deal with on
(09:39):
the industry side and the peopleand the things that you like
I've had a fight to even likeget to where I am, but this was
so worth it to be right here inthis moment, like I was.
I mean, honestly, it's hard toeven describe.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Funny if that is not a message for some body, because
that that is always how I feel,like when I first stepped into
a room, like when I'm speaking,when I'm anywhere, I'm like how,
how did I get here?
Is this real, do I even belonghere?
(10:12):
But I worked hard to get inthis room.
I belong in this room, I belongin this space because this is
my moment, so I'm going toembrace my moments like this.
Moment belongs to me, and thatis the most amazing feeling in
(10:35):
the world it, is it?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
um?
Yeah, I mean honestly justmakes everything, all of the
stuff before, so so worth it, it, just, it just makes all the
bullshit that you've beenthrough back I don't know if I
can cuss on this podcast girl.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yes, ma'am, you just be you.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I was so trying.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, bullshit is the perfect word, like it's just
like all all the bullshit that Ihave overcome and I have been
through.
This is why this is yes, andand all the like haters that
were like, oh well, you werenever, oh well, you're not gonna
.
It's like, fuck you.
(11:23):
It's like, look at me now.
It's like, look at me now,bitch, look at me, I'm on the
same stage as david bowie whenhe was on the same level.
Yes, yes, yes, like that.
That is uh, amazing.
Now I love, like I before, thatyou also do a lot of work for
(11:50):
the girls, for the kids, for thekikis, for the gorgeous ones.
Okay, like, when did that comeabout?
Like doing all these prideshows?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Well, I have a really good booking agent based out of
New York and I met him throughmy publicist and he just I was
like, oh my gosh, like your,your whole vibe and your sound
would work so well for thesepride performances and all of
these.
And I was like I would.
I mean again, I'm all aboutpositivity, I'm all about love,
I'm all about spreading joy,happiness, peace, love, all the
(12:22):
things.
So I was like let's do it.
And I just there's so muchbeauty and I love a good kiki
and I love a good sassy, fiercewalk.
Like I've actually been reallyinspired by that community in a
lot of ways, just even on aconfidence alone, and I was like
, yes, please, and thank you.
So I was able to do a lot ofthem and, oh my gosh, like the,
(12:46):
the people are just so lovelyand down to earth.
And like I found like myself,oh my gosh.
And then in Chicago, one ofthem, like I was in Chicago and
I love Chicago so much.
Love you, love you, love you.
I had a couple come up to meand they're like, can we be your
president of your fan club?
Like I'll never forget that.
And they were just so kind andlovely and I was just like I
(13:06):
love.
I love you people so much.
I love you people so much.
I do love you so much, so I'vejust enjoyed it every step of
the way and I should be doingthem again this summer, so I'm
excited.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Well, I hope.
Please let me know which onesyou will be at, because I would
love to catch one, because Ithink so.
Little known fact my innerperson is a drag queen Like my
inner.
I am a drag queen Like I.
My inner, I am a drag queen.
(13:35):
My spirit is a drag queen LikeI'm just all of it.
Yeah, oh, my God, in my heart Iam a drag queen.
But yes, I would love, I wouldlove to see you perform.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I'd love to see you perform.
Are you love to see you perform?
Are you kidding me, Listen?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
girl, I want to see you work In my heart.
I am a drag queen In my heart.
That is who I am.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I love it.
I love it.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
So you talked about one of your best moments, and
that was when the couple hadwalked up to you.
What was your best moment ontour?
Like your best, like oh, yes,yes, yes, yes, moment.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I would say what was nice is.
I didn't do a lot of researchon these theaters in the UK
because I was so nervous, likeif it was Madison Square Garden.
It's like you know the weightof that.
Yes, there's the LondonPalladium, which is like the
step down from Madison SquareGarden, probably other like
Wembley's, the big one, butLondon Palladium is super iconic
(14:45):
and I played three sold out umshows there and um, even without
knowing all of the history, ofcourse, I looked it up after.
I just didn't want to psychmyself out too much.
You could feel it and theenergy in the air and the major
press was there and I beautifulwrite-ups from the sun and daily
(15:05):
star and all these amazingwhich I never thought would be
possible and, um, that stagealone.
That was like I've made it,I've totally made it and I just
like every time I was just sograteful and honored to even be
on that stage and the write-upswere so beautiful.
My mom, um, it's really funny,she's my stylist.
I've had many stylists but likeand then your mother and she has
(15:26):
a degree in it, um, at theLondon college of style.
No-transcript if we're goodenough or if we're, you know.
(15:59):
Yes, of course, as my mom.
People question, oh if she'sjust your mom?
No, she's actually really goodat what she does.
She's super talented, and thatfact that she got to get some
validation for that, shedeserved it, and so that was
definitely one of my favoritemoments that is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Come on, mother styling.
Come on, mother, I just lovethat.
Okay, I love the the mom,because this, this little fancy
jacket that like you have on thelike oh, yes, that was.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
This was actually Christmas present from her.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yes, baby, baby mama is stylish, do you understand me
?
Okay, so I am big on motivation.
I am everybody's hype girl, butnot every day we feel like
being positive.
Not every day we wake up andlike, oh my God, the heels are a
(16:53):
lot Like.
We don't always feel like that.
So what keeps you motivated ondays that you just like I don't
want to do this shit?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I mean, we're all human and it's so, so normal, so
natural.
And I've gone through a lot ofshit.
If, like, let me tell you, um,even in this past year, my
parents are going through adivorce and, um, I just broke up
with my boyfriend like there'sa lot happening, a lot of shit,
but and and you know, I'vealways found I was raised right,
(17:27):
though my mom was such a goodsource of grounding for me, my
spiritual leader, like I'm alsoa Christian, I love Jesus, so
that helps me through a lot, andthat's just like that's.
If I didn't have that firmfoundation, I would not be this
positive person that you seeevery day, cause I do not get my
strength from myself, that'sfor sure.
I get it from.
God and I, just I can't, I can'tbe more thankful for that
(17:51):
because it's really helped methrough.
You know the shit that,especially last year, was there
was so many highs, of course, oftour and stuff like that.
But personal life, I meanfinding that like strength and
energy to get through thosehighs and make it something
worth something, without goingthrough and getting into those
deep dark holes.
That was huge for me.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I don't even have to ask you like, who do you most
admire?
Because it sounds like it's momfor sure.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
She's the strongest person I've ever met, like truly
.
And she's the positive like Icould cry about it honestly and
like her.
Um, why am I getting emotional?
Oh my gosh, her support isamazing, but she's so strong
like if I could ever think ofsomeone who is so positive in
the midst of so much shit comingup against her like insane
(18:49):
insane.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
That is beautiful, oh you're not you making me
emotional, I have that effect onpeople, but I mean some like
sometimes we don't realize howspecial people are until we
start to hear ourselves talkabout them and it just kind of
(19:12):
like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like you know, becauseoftentimes we take for granted
the people in our lives andbecause we just feel like, okay,
yeah, you know they're going tobe in my corner, until we start
talking about how amazing theyare.
And then it hits you howamazing they are and it's just
(19:36):
like oh my gosh, like I, I havesome amazing people riding for
me that will always be therethrough my shit.
No, what?
Like they will be there andthat is an amazing thing to have
.
So you said that you have gonethrough a lot, you've been
(19:57):
through a lot, you've had abreakup, like you've dealt with
a lot.
How do you feel like this haschanged who you are?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Well, I this was my first boyfriend too.
I was single for 20 years.
I was good being single.
I was single until I was 20years old, and I love being
single.
I'm really happy with myself.
I like being alone, which isgreat, and I think going through
finally a relationship hashelped, of course, shape my
music and make me feel like morehuman.
(20:28):
I've gotten to be, anexperience.
I feel like more human, likeI've gotten an experience, and
so that's.
That's nice, that I finallyhave that experience and I'm
really grateful for it.
And I think that that's justanother learning curve and
something that we all have tolive through with life, and but
I think I'm a lot stronger forit Now.
I've learned a lot about myselfthrough that relationship too
(20:51):
and I just think I'm a lotbetter for it and I'm really I
mean, I've never been the typeto like meet a guy.
I'm not looking for one.
I wasn't looking for one when Igot a boyfriend.
I'm still not looking for one,because I'm again real good,
like if God brings one along,okay, we'll see.
But, um, I'm really happy to besingle.
Like it.
It was a big strain, especiallywith touring and traveling so
(21:12):
much, and like I am living thispop singer life and I am not
stopping, like I've always beena boss babe and I just I ain't
stopping anytime soon.
And, honestly, it's nice tojust now be able to think about
me, because I, when I'm in arelationship, I truly dive in
and I think about the otherperson a lot, um, a lot more
(21:35):
than myself, and I think thatthat's great in some ways, but
I've neglected myself for fartoo long and that's yes, we're,
we're done with that okay,because, because we're, because
it is your me season, you areputting you first.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
It is your me season.
I'm not.
I will no longer put myself onthe back burner, for no one
correct.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, three and a half years, we're done now
listen, I it y'all.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Y'all heard that it's me season.
You heard it from that.
Look y'all, stop putting allyour ducks in in everybody.
Stop putting all your eggs ineverybody else's basket.
Put it in your own, becausethey're going to eat and you're
not going to eat Like we don'tdo that, you'll lose yourself in
the process.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Let's not do that.
Let's not do that.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Listen, oh my gosh, I love your outlook on things.
Like you don't have this.
Oh whoa, it's me, you know,like I, I love your outlook on
things.
And I also loved when you saidand I wanted you to just just go
into it just just a little bitwhen you said I was good at
(22:46):
being single, because a lot ofpeople feel like, oh well for
you single, like what's wrongwith you, like you're single,
like, so I?
I loved when you said I'm goodat being single.
What does that mean to?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
you.
I think that's being reallysecure in yourself and liking
being alone and spending timewith yourself, and I think again
my mom raised me right.
I know my value, my worth doesnot come from a man.
I know like I've been reallygrateful to have such an amazing
support system to help raise meto be really good at being
(23:27):
single, and I think, at the endof the day, if you don't add to
my life, then you're'resubtracting from it.
There's no reason.
I am really good.
No, thank you.
I deserve what I deserve, andif you cannot bring that to me,
then no, then no, and I'm Ialready.
I know I'm young, but I'm, Ifeel, way too old to be dealing
with any more negativity, anymore jealousy, any more of just
(23:50):
the bullshit that people like to, of course, throw at this
industry too, and even some men.
So you know, I'm good, like I,I'm really happy just being
alone and I like spending timewith myself and I like doing
things alone and I'm reallysolid, I guess um, with how I
feel about myself.
So I don't really feel like Ineed to go look for it in other
(24:10):
places or in other people.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I don't know if y'all heard the knowledge that Matt
just dropped on us, bitch, Idon't know if y'all heard the
knowledge.
She said who are the people inthe back?
She said who are the people inthe back.
She said, and I quote bitch, ifyou're not adding to my life,
(24:37):
you are subtracting from it.
If the math ain't mapping, themath ain't mapping.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
If the math ain't mapping Bye-bye you out.
I don't even need you.
Save you next.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Okay, so I just need y'all.
She said one more time if youain't adding to it, then you are
subtracting from it.
So come on, max, droppingknowledge on us today.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I say, wait a minute.
Professor Max in the building,just kidding.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Okay, Maybe she took that mic and said nah.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
She likes a good mic drop, and that is what it was.
I was like, oh so yeah,everybody who's out there that's
single, be good at being single.
Be good at being single, begood for you, be good for
yourself, and it is okay to besingle until the right person
(25:48):
comes into your life, and if not, then just be good at being
just for you, good at being youJust for you.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Good at being you.
Yeah, and I mean you can't begood for anyone else until
you're good for yourself anyway.
It's just, it's not evenpossible.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I mean you just can't , I just I'm going to need to
get me a mic, a microphone,because every time we Can, she
just that's what the mic drop.
Like, baby, if you ain't goodfor you, then you can't be good
(26:24):
for them.
Like y'all, just two not goodpeople and y'all gonna make a
not good situation, so we're notgonna do that, okay so so I'm
gonna just be good at beingmyself.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, the best that you are for you.
So I'm going to just be good atbeing myself, the best that you
are for you, the best that willcome your way.
Like you attract, of course,what you give out and what you
exude.
So if you're so happy andconfident with yourself and like
super, super secure and likeyou'll get that, like you'll get
someone who can trust you andthat's not insecure and happy
with themselves because you'rejust going to attract that
anyway, so it's just, you know,that's the math, that will math.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
The other way.
A-mathin Baby, I don't knowabout y'all, but I love me some
Max Ray Like I love me some MaxRay, Like, oh my gosh, so you so
.
Is this where you get all yourinspiration from your music that
(27:25):
you write yourself?
Like you said, I wrote 10 songsin 10 days and I'm just like
what, so like, do you just getall this from just life and
positivity and just what?
Where?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
do you get it from?
I, I get it from life, for sure.
I have a running note in myphone.
Um, if I'm even out and I'meavesdropping on a conversation
and someone says something I'mlike that would be a good line
for a song, I write it down orlike not wait, wait, not well,
when you're alone, sometimeslike you just everyone does it.
(28:04):
Let's be real.
Okay, if you're really obvious,it's just really hard not to um
, so definitely do that.
Um, I've been like thetherapist for my friend group,
so they'll come to me with likerelationship advice which I find
really like very sweet.
And so sometimes I'm like, hey,I kind of could make that a
song.
So I write that down.
I mean, and there's mostly whatI do.
Even if it's like a superserious topic, I find the silver
(28:27):
lining in it.
Of course I'm authentic to thatwhat emotional weight that
holds in a song.
But I'm also and sometimesthat's what it's needed, but
majority of the time I'll givethat's space and then always
find a way to find the silverlining, just because it's just
who I am and I want to.
Of course we all feel thosehuman emotions, but we want to
(28:47):
pick ourselves up and carry backon and be stronger for whatever
we've gone through.
So I always try to make that abig point.
But yeah, I just get it from myown personal experiences, from
other people's experiences, thatthey come to me for just just
life in general.
Whatever I'm experiencing, Ilove it.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
So let's have a little bit of fun.
Um, before I let you go, yourmost embarrassing moment go uh,
everyday life.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Um, okay, uh, I'm most embarrassing moment.
Oh, okay, this people might notthink this is embarrassing, but
I did one night on tour um, I,I was performing, this is how we
do it.
Uh, that our version.
Um, just me and the music.
It was the finale, like thelast song, and the music cut out
and so I was pretending to bethe instruments, like on the mic
(29:41):
, acapella's, like, like, and itwas.
For me it was like, but I haddancers behind me and I wanted
them to still be able to moveand like, so I just became all
the instruments and I got offstage thinking what the hell did
I just do?
Um, my dancers were laughing,but they also said that was
super iconic, but for me it waslike, so embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yes, because it was like dancing, dancing.
I bet that was awesome.
I bet that was awesome to see.
So you only have a second tothink and answer these questions
(30:22):
.
Just a second, okay, okay.
If you could eat one food forthe rest of your life, what
would it be?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
pasta, celebrity crush I literally I went blank.
I used to have so manycelebrity crushes, like Justin
Bieber was one, so I'll go withthat Justin Bieber if you had
one superpower, what would it be?
To fly.
(30:52):
Really, yeah, that'd be fun.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I feel like if I could read someone's mind, I'd
go crazy you, yeah, you, youright about that, but that was,
it was a close second so if youhad, if you can tell any,
(31:16):
because I I am so for like womenempowerment, like I'm so for
like women.
So if you had to talk to youryounger self first, what would
you tell little Max Ray rightnow?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
That's so sweet.
I would tell her that you needto calm down.
You overthink way too much likechill, it's okay, you're not
gonna die, you're, everything'sgonna be okay.
And I just wanted to give her abig hug and just tell her to
breathe more and to be morepresent, because those moments
that our childhood make up and Ihad some really good moments
(31:58):
like those go away way too fast.
So enjoy the naps, enjoyplaying outside, enjoy those
moments with your friends,because, like, that's all you're
going to get, so enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
That's what I'd say.
And one last question, beforewe let you go, okay, before we
let you go okay, if you had tosay anything to young girls that
say you know what, I don't knowwhat, what I want to be in in
(32:30):
life, I think I want to do music, I think I want to dance, but I
just don't know if I'm goodenough to make it, what would
you tell young girls?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I've been in the same exact boat, same shoes as you
and I think it's very normal,natural, to feel that way.
Don't beat yourself up, butperseverance is the biggest key.
I mean, there's a lot offailures, you're going to get, a
lot of no's You're going to get.
You're going to have to fight alot for yourself and for what
you want, but it's thepersevering that's my biggest
(33:01):
word.
That's kind of really clickedfor me.
If you just keep going, it will, it will happen, especially if
you have that passion.
Just keep the passion, keepyour faith, keep going, keep
working, keep pushing.
It's all worth it in the endand I promise, promise you, if
you just keep going and you keepmaking an effort, it will
happen, it will.
(33:21):
That's why you have to keeptelling yourself too it will
happen, like I think, no matterwhat.
You just have to have PMA,positive mental attitude always.
Yes, I love it, I just think youjust can't let the negative
thoughts win.
I think it's really easy forthat to happen, but as long as
you just keep going, keeppersevering, it will happen.
And that's all you have to keeptelling yourself.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
So tell us where to find you, to tell us where to
follow you, to tell us about anyupcoming things that you have
going on.
Tell us everything.
Max Ray, let's go.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
That's so sweet.
Well, you can find meeverywhere on all social media
at Max Ray M-A-X-R-A-E it's thefemale spelling On Instagram,
youtube, tiktok, which is stillhere, thank God, okay, and yeah,
youtube is really fun with allmy music videos.
They're all like little minimovies.
They give you a more clear lookinto what the songs are really
(34:20):
about from my perspective.
And, of course, spotify andApple Music Every streaming
platform you can find all mymusic.
And yeah, I mean make sure tosubscribe or follow, because
this song with Montel Jordanthat will be coming out soon is
going to be epic and I'm sohonored that him and I are doing
that together and just bringinga fresh spin to the iconic song
(34:42):
, so make sure you do that.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Um, but yeah, that's about it yes, thank you so much
for being in the passenger seatwith me today.
Oh my gosh, anytime that youwant to come back and sit in the
passenger seat with me, you aremore than welcome.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Thank you, I would love to Anytime.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I hope that you guys enjoyed Max Ray as much as I did
.
Go and follow her, go subscribeto her channel, go, do all the
things Max, max rate, becauseI'm telling you it's worth the
listen.
It's worth the listen Y'all.
She is amazing.
She is amazing and I just lovetalking to you.
(35:32):
I love your spirit, I loveeverything about you, okay.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Same here.
Oh my gosh, I love you so muchand I love this podcast.
Oh my gosh, you're doing agreat job.
This is great work.
Like I love this.
Please keep doing this, liketruly people.
We need this, we need thisspace.
So please keep this up andthank you, and I'd love to be
back.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
As you go out there and be great in their face, know
that you are everything andeverything is you, honey, know
that you are the shit, the wholeshit and nothing but the shit.
So you go out there and be badand it's like I know you can be
and, as always, you have a goodday on purpose.
Hell, you're welcome.
I am the sunshine of my lifeand, as always, you have a good
(36:28):
day on purpose.
Ma'am, you're welcome.
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