Episode 80: Comedian-Gian Hernandez

Comedian Gian Hernandez is back on the podcast to talk comedy, the scenes in Albuquerque/Santa Fe, wrestling, meeting celebrities and more!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everybody, thanks for tuning in. It's in the Rye
Podcast episode eighty and let me tell you about some
tour days before we talked to Jean Hernandez, my guest.
Let's see the Saturday Albuquerque Bossque Brewing in nob Hill

(00:21):
October nineteenth, Saturday. Next week October twenty one through the
twenty sixth Monday through Saturday, headlining the Comedy Cave in Calgary, Alberta.
That's in Canada, so if you know any anybody in
Calgary or in that area, please send them to a show.

(00:43):
Then I come back home October thirty, first Halloween Night,
I'll be headlining the End of the Mountain Gods in Mescalero,
New Mexico. And then next month November twenty second and
twenty third, I'll be at Loony's in Colorado Springs with
Nick Hoff and all the tickets. If you like tickets,

(01:05):
go to Funny Fletcher dot com click on the schedule there,
or you can go to Endarrye podcast dot com. Got
my tour dates on there as well with ticket links.
I also have a special coming out on Open Bar
Comedy next Wednesday, October twenty third, so check that out

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or put it on the background. You don't have to
watch it. Give me some views. I'n't recorded one of
these in a while, Big surprise. Done some fun shows.
A couple of weeks ago. I did a show in
al mcgordo in New Mexico's event called Monster Palooza, which

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was a lot of fun. Me and Keith Breckenridge drub
down there. Got to open for some bands. A couple
hundred people, three hundred, four hundred, I don't know. It's
pretty cool. I had a couple of food trucks out there.
Sweet venue. You pretty good show. Last night I did
did a show at the Block and Real Rancho, which
was cool. It's a nice little little outdoor venue. There

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a lot of food places and bars and all that.
Pretty cool. Yeah, okay. Also, Hey, my buddy's Bowling for
Soup coming to Albuquerque in October twenty seven Sunday nights
at the l Ray Theater. Jareded the singer does the

(02:36):
intro from my podcast. I talked about him. You know,
I've had him on the podcast. Go see Bowling for Soup.
They play on a good show. Twenty year anniversary of
a Hangover You Don't Deserve. They're playing the whole album
plus some of the other hits afterwards. I got to
see the show in Texas. It's awesome. Sucks. I'm actually

(02:58):
probably gonna miss their set here in Albuquerque because I'm
flying home from Calgary and I Dick don't get home
till like ten o'clock at night. So but you should
go see him. I'm still gonna go to the venue
even after they got home, see if they're still there.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
I'm tired. Woke up early for this. I don't normally
do that. So anyways, enjoy the conversation with me and
Jean Hernandez, his second time on the show. I love
this dude. He's awesome. He's a hard worker, very funny.
I think you're gonna enjoy him. Go catch him. He's

(03:45):
opening for Steve Byrne at Casadas October eighteenth and nineteenth,
a really funny.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
This is his podcast in your Rise.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
All right, Jean Hernandez, what's going on? Dude?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Hello? Hello, I'm loving the Iowa Hawkeyes colors.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yes, I try to brand myself with all Iowah Hakuys stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
So, dude, Spencer Lee is the man, Dude, he is
He is the man.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
There's a bummer he couldn't get the gold medal. But
man quite a bit without any A c l s
and stuff. Real good man. Did you watch a lot
of the Olympic wrestling?

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Oh? Yeah, I loved it. It was it was. It's
kind of like the way I feel for Olympic wrestling
is the same way I feel about FIFA like football,
like soccer, because like I don't watch it for the
like four years, but then like when it does come on,
I'm like really into it. Oh really Yeah, Like with wrestling,
I still like, I still keep in touch with it,

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read the news about it, and but I don't really
like sit down and watch the matches just because I
feel like there's so many things to do in a day.
But other than that, it's like when is the Olympics,
I'm like, okay, I gotta sit down for this.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Sure I get that. Yeah, yeah, I'm still kinda like
I don't know all the rules of freestyle and stuff
like that, so I got to refresh myself every four years.
Kind of yeah, because I remember remember one match where
might have even been the gold medal match, where the
dude got a point for something stupid.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah remember now?

Speaker 1 (05:39):
But yeah. I uh, I watch a lot of college
wrestling though, like full style. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I
even have a podcast dedicated to that with my buddy,
So that's awesome. Yeah. We actually we're gonna do one tomorrow,
like the first one of the season, so like kind
of like a sea in preview type of deal. So

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I'm pretty excited about that.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Heck, yeah did you do that? Did you wrestle in
high school or anything like that?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
No, wrestling wasn't really a big thing in Puerto Rico.
Oh okay, yeah, so I just did a lot of
my wrestling knowledges from MMA and then jiu jitsu.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Gotcha. That's cool, man. How long have you been doing
the MMA and jiu jitsu stuff?

Speaker 2 (06:24):
I mean since I started doing MMA like around twenty thirteen,
and then I switched over full time jiu jitsu in
twenty fifteen. Okay, but I've always kind of been grappling
since like two thousand and eight, just learning at like
garages and yeah, try to get what I could get.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
So did you start doing that so you can deal
with comedy hecklers?

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah? Absolutely, there is this one time though, this was
like maybe like a couple of months ago. I was
hosting this show in Santa Fe, And you know, I
feel so confident with hecklers because I feel like it
this like to the set. I feel like it's more
fun to be able to like think on the fly
and improvisee it is.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Uh so I got heckled by this drunk lady and
when I was gonna like answer back at her with
a comeback, she just whips her tit out and like
breastfeed herd like nine year old son drunkingly, and I
just didn't know what to do. I was like, ah, yeah, anyways,
here's your next comic. Yeah, yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, I've never dealt with a heckle like that.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah. I was just I frozen, and I was like, anyway,
here's Tony p. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
How funny. That's kind of funny because like, you know,
a lot of newer comics, you know, are afraid of heckler's,
Like I know, I was for sure at first, but uh,
that's cool that you, uh that you look at it
that way. I definitely do now too, Like, I mean,
I would prefer not to be heckled, but if it
does happen, you know, I can usually handle it pretty.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Well, yeah, it's I kind of like lately, I mean
ever since I got back at it. I look at
doing stand up comedies, doing like just cracking jokes with
a bunch of friends around, and then if someone like
talks to me or like has like a who heckles,
then I can joke back at them like it's whatever.

(08:23):
I don't really care for it. But now if it's
ruining my set, I'm like, okay, dude, stop.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah. Yeah, that's when I started getting annoyed by it.
I was working with the guy one time, Vince Morris,
and this lady would not shut up and he destroyed
her for twenty five minutes, one of the best things
I've ever seen in my comedy career. And like even
the club owner like we're just standing in the back watching,
We're like, this is fucking amazing. But when he got

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off stage, he was so fucking pissed.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I don't blame him.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
He didn't get to do his set at all, you know,
he like because he spent twenty five minutes of his
headline set like just destroying this lady. And it was
awesome to us.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, for sure, but it sucks for the audience that
paid to see that set, you know.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, the audience actually really liked it too, because she
was so annoying and they all hated her, so at
least it was pretty awesome. But he apologized to everyone
for not doing his set and stuff like that. But
I think I think people really enjoyed watching him.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Do that, so oh for sure, I can imagine.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, yeah, it's funny about hacklers. It's usually always a
drunk woman.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Oh yeah, for sure, because it's like, dude, there's this
one time and Bilen we were performing at Fat SATs
Bar and grill I think it's called. And it was
me and this comedian who was a former MMA fighter
named Brian Sullivan from Colorado. He's living in New Work now.

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And what's funny was that, you know, I picked him
up from Albuquerque to drive to Berlin while I was
driving from Santa Fe. And we didn't even talk about
comedy that whole time. We were just talking about MMA,
martial arts whatever. So then we get to the venue
I opened, and it was fun. It was a great time,
and then Jamar Hall performed, and then at the end

(10:24):
Brian Sullivan performed. He was the headliner, and there was
someone heckling him, and he would be like telling people
shut the fuck up, like joking around. The crowd loves
that haha. And then he tells O, lady, hey, you
you shut the fuck up. And I guess the husband
got offended and tried to like like like rush into

(10:45):
the stage to go fight Brian, and security stopped him.
And then Brian's like, Jesus Christ, dude, you don't know
what you got yourself into, because like I have califlower here.
And then he's like John has call aflower here and
we're the Mighty mint it too, we're ankle Biers. I
was like, that guy would have been so fucked.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, Brian's a sturdy fella.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
He actually hosted my comedy special that's being released next week.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
He was, shit, yeah, where did you film that special?

Speaker 1 (11:21):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Where did you film that special at?

Speaker 1 (11:24):
I filmed it at Looney's in Colorado Springs.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Oh that's sick, dude.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, yeah, back in February. Yeah, it's like a thirty
minute set, a bunch of jokes. I don't want to
do anymore, so I'm just gonna retire him.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
That's smart.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, that was kind of funny because I hadn't told
a few of them in a while, so it's kind
of a like we did two recordings and like the
first one was kind of sloppy and the second one
went way better.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
So is that how it works when it comes to specials?
Do they usually film it like once or twice or
do you think it's just like a one and time.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
I don't know. I think it's different for everybody, probably,
but I feel like it's probably a couple of them.
Like I went to one of Louis c K's tapings
once in Phoenix, and he did four shows that weekend
and then just picked the best one. Okay, Yeah, So

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I don't know if that's a regular thing, like if
they do like two on a night and then pick
the best one or I don't know. I know Richard
Pryor when he did Live on the Sunset Strip, he
did like a like a practice type of one like
the night before and that actually did not go well

(12:40):
at all, and then the next night at the actual recording,
like you know, it's one of the best fucking specials
of all time.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
So that's awesome, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, Yeah, FATSATS is kind of a kind of a wild,
wild spot. Oh yeah, I called her. I called the
lady a bitch aple weeks ago. I can't remember why.
I want to pull up her video or something like that,
because she laughed at something and I called her a bitch.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Oh yeah, because you were there with the Breckinridge Carlos Medina, right.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, yeah, and then Benny Martinez ended up hosting and
like Jordans came and did a set, so that was cool.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Oh yeah, I'm Jay.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, it was nice to see him. Have you met him,
Michael Jordan?

Speaker 2 (13:34):
No, I still think it's the basketball player.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
It's definitely not the basketball player. I would love to
see this guy try to play basketball, though, would be
pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
I just can't imagine the audience getting high to like,
oh my god, I called Jordan's gonna do comedy.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, yeah, that's why we didn't put him on the flyer.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah what the what the fuck? Yeah I was expecting
Michael Jordan.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, that would be pretty funny. Yeah, it was a
good show man. It was packed. We did it on
a Thursday night, but it was like, yeah, it was
it was full. It was a full room, and I
guess it's not really a room. It's outside but but yeah, yeah,
that room again, that's fine. What's your Do you have

(14:28):
a favorite venue you like to perform at?

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Uh? Well, you know it's funny because Fatass became one
of my favorites, especially now, like in that side of
New Mexico. Yeah, Fat Hoss is pretty rowdy, and I
kind of like how rowdy it is. And I don't
usually like outdoor venues. I hate outdoor venues. I always
feel like I'm performing at a flea market. Yeah, but uh,
I had to say my favorite venue right now, and

(14:53):
I guess what one of them is right now is
like Turtle Mountain Brewing. I love that room. Yeah, it's
such a sick room. A And then in Santa Fe,
it's hard to choose, but I have to say between
Social Kitchen and Bar or Knuckles, just because I like
a small intimate room where like there are no distractions,

(15:15):
no noises, and it just has that comedy club feel. Yeah,
so I have to say that, and I guess I
have to lean more towards Social because it was the
place that I first headlined at, so now it's like
a more personal.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Cool how'd your first headline set go?

Speaker 2 (15:31):
It went great? It was such a cool experience because
it was it was packed. There were a few people
that even drove from Albuquerque to Santa Fe to watch.
Even Rusty was there and he wasn't even on the show,
but he was. He just wanted to watch it cool
and it felt so I was so nervous because I
was just like, what if I forget everything the order

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of things, And I was just kind of in a
games like a game mindset that I was just focused.
So when I got up there, it just kind of
felt like a celebration that I came back at it,
and I was telling some old jokes, some new jokes,
and you know, at the end, I could I was
talking about my friend that passed away, and I made

(16:13):
it into like a good just a well thirty minutes.
It was awesome, such a great experience, and having my
wife there and close friends. I do feel a lot
more confident doing thirty minutes, for sure, so like I
could handle whatever comes my way at this point.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Man.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, yeah, it's funny. I get I rarely get nervous
for shows anymore unless I'm headlining. Really yeah, it's I
don't know what it is. It's like like I can
I could do thirty minutes, no problem, but like you know,
doing a headline set, like like when I when I
headline a club, you know, it's like forty five minutes
to an hour. I'm always nervous that I'm gonna forget shit.

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And you know, because I could do thirty like so easy,
but then it's like you got to add in another fifteen.
Yeah at that trying to figure out where to put everything.
That sounds hard, dude, Yeah, And that's not He's like
way different at a club too, because you have to
deal with a lot more stuff like people are drunker,

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you know, and then a lot of times they do
the check drop during your set, you know, so there's
a few minutes when they're not paying attention, and so
it's really hard to like get like a really good
you know flow going sometimes. But I don't know, it's fun,
it's a fun learning experience and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I feel like five minutes is harder than thirty.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Minutes, definitely, Yeah, especially like you know, as you progress
in your career, Like yeah, I used to love doing
five minutes sets, and now it's like man, what do
I what do I do?

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, Like how can I put all my best stuff
in just five minutes.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, yeah, because sometimes you know, it takes a crowd
a little little bit to adjust to your style, you know,
depending on who you are and stuff like that. So
you know, sometimes five minutes you can't really I don't know,
you get the crowd on your side right away stuff
like that.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, And like at least with like thirty minutes, you
have like time to let the jokes digest a little,
You can slow down a bit, you can get a
sip up your drink and like do some crowd work
here and there if you wanted to. But ten minutes,
I feel like that's your commercial, you know what I mean,
that's your teaser. Yeah, so you have to like put
out your best stuff really quickly so they can be

(18:35):
like really into you, and then you're like, okay, now
here's your headliner.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah and then yeah. It's funny to
think back though, to like when you're first starting out,
you're like ten minutes really shit.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, that's exactly how it was for me too.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah. Oh yeah. My first set I ever did, I
was supposed to do five at the comedy club. I
think I did three because that's so nervous and talk
so fast. You know, yeah, that's good. Oh good, but
it went well, so you know.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I guess that was good.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Eat shit and then get off early, you know.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, dude, there this one time my bombed so bad,
and this was in Santa Rosa, and I always talk
about it, but it was one of the worst nights
of my comedy career for sure.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
And it was me Tyler Lovely, Tripstell Nikki and Carlos
Medina and Joshua Fournier. So I was just like, Okay,
this is a stack lineup. I really need to give
like my best and Carlos Media let me like open
for like seven minutes. I barely did four and I
was just like, I am done. This is terrible. Like

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I was trying to put out my best stuff and
no one was laughing. I legit saw like one guy
in the crowd who looked at the guy next to
him and just went at one of my jokes, just nodded,
and I was like, well, I got that at least.
And then you know, the rest of the comics they

(20:10):
bomb except for josh forty at that that night, and
we were all just kind of like, Wow, this guy
is just he has it, yeah, and you know, he
can make anyone laugh. Where Trip is one of the
funniest people I know, and so is Tyler, and it's like,
you know, everyone just has their like certain genres.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
I feel like, I think Trip is way too smart
for a Santa Rosa crowd.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah exactly. And it's like that's how I
feel with my stuff lately too, So it's kind of
like nobody gives a fuck if your joke is clever
there We're it's Santa fe They're like.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
I like that, yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Well that was so terrible and I remember what guy
went up to me and he's like, dude, you're funny
as fuck, bro, And I was like, why didn't you laugh?
I didn't hear anyone laugh.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Time.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah, I hate those shows when you can you can
see their or you can hear their little comments and stuff.
I remember. I remember one time doing a show at
the casino and I was pretty young still, and uh
I had to open and do like thirty minutes and
it was always so rough to get to that thirty

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minutes at this casino. And the first time I ever
performed there. I just I'm just eating shit so bad,
and this old lady just goes, You're not funny, and
I'm like, I know, I know, I'm trying, though.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Like, well fuck you too.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
I wanted to fucking get off stage and beat the
hell out of her, but.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
I just kind of like shit on myself after that,
and they got a couple of laughs, so it helped
the a little.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Bit as good. That's funny, dude. I always you know,
back then, I like when I bombed, I would acknowledge
that I bombed on stage. And now I'm just kind
of like I was listening to this podcast and it
was Chris's Stephano, Mark Bibiglia. They were talking about like bombing,
and Chris's Stefano was like he was killing it in

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the local New York scene. And then you know, some
producers went up to him and said, hey, like we're
very interested in having in the Late Show or the
Tonight Show to do a set. We just need to
watch a little bit more. And so he would just constantly,
you know, perform and still kill it, constantly kill it.
And then but they didn't they didn't say when he

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would be able to perform or whatever until one time
he bombed pretty bad in front of like a Ukrainian
crowd in New York and he coming and a second, okay,
you did what? Oh so did you get to the

(23:02):
point where I said that he was bombing crowd? Oh yeah,
the Ukrainian crowd. He was just bombing in front of them,
one joke after another, just bombing. But he did acknowledge
it at all that he was bombing. He just kept going.
And so the producers after the show went up to
him because he thought he was never going to get
the gig, and they were like, hey, we watch you
on the Tonight Show tomorrow. And he was like, why

(23:24):
I just bomb and this because he bombed professionally, that
he'd acknowledged that he bombed, and that's what they were
waiting for.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Oh wow, I know crazy, right, So yeah, they're like,
this guy better fucking bombs soon.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, I need to go home to my wife. I
hate staying out here at two am in New York.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
I should have been on the Tonight Show then, because yeah, right,
I'm just gonna send him a tape of me bombing
a bunch. Here's me bombing seven times in.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
A Yeah, here's thirty minutes of pure bombing. This is
me in Santa Rosa.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, man, I uh yeah, I've never performed in Santa
Rose and I have no desire to.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Do so, no, don't, don't, I know, don't.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
I always love driving through there because everybody has the
same accent and it's a little different than like a
typical New Mexican accent. I don't know if you notice
that there, but if you listen to the radio there,
it's really funny because all their commercials you can tell
like they all have the same accent.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Oh yeah, for sure, that's the funny part, dude. O, Man,
New Mexico, it's very unique, for sure.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Do we got to talk about your gigs Friday and Saturday?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, my Casada's comedy Cantey and the debut.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, I'm pretty excited. You know. When I got the news,
I was very nervous and like I had to get
like the jitters out, But because I felt into the
emotion early on, now I'm like, yeah, I'm looking forward
to it, you know.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah dude, So yeah, this is like your big first
hosting spot there.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Luckily you've hosted other gigs before, so you know that's uh,
because I remember my first time hosting at a comedy club.
I had never really hosted before. Oh really yeah, because
we didn't have like a ton of open mics. We
had like we had one a month at the comedy club,

(25:41):
and I would host that every once in a while.
But it was a little different than hosting, you know,
a professional show. So I when I when I first
got that booking, I went into the club and watched
a couple of shows to see how the hosts were
doing it and stuff like that, but I still fucked
up the dudes name, like the features name. You got

(26:04):
it right one time, And he told me on that
because we did Wednesday through Sunday, so we did seven
shows together Jesus Sunday night. He was like, uh, He's like, hey, man,
you're doing a good job hosting, but I just want
to let you know you've only got my name right

(26:24):
one time, and that really ye, But I still remember
his his intro was something like he performed at the
Lenny Bruce Comedy Festival and his name was Lonnie Brewin,
so the names are like very similar. I guess I

(26:45):
just kept sucking it up all week.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
He performed at the Letter Brewing Comedy. Yeah, everyone Lenny Brewceni.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
With every you know, every way possible to screw it up.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
I sure they were like that's the wrong heroin addict.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
He wasn't a dick about it, which was nice. He
was just kind of letting me know. So that was cool.
So yeah, Steve Burne is headlining, which is cool.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah. Uh yeah, It's funny because I remember watching Sullivan
and Son in Puerto Rico and I was just really yeah,
I saw the show, like I watched the show. Yeah,
So when I got the news I was opening for him.
I was like, Steve burn step, what does that sound like?
Why does that sound familiar? And then I like google

(27:42):
searched and I was like, holy shit Sullivan.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
So yeah, so it was pretty high an underrated comic too.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah, he is, and I mean he's been doing it
for two decades pretty much, and he's recording a special
and I think in a couple of weeks, no.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Ship cool man. Yeah, so working out some of the stuff.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah, absolutely, And you know, I'm excited to like if
he is willing to to pick his brain on things
at the green room, if he's not too focused. But
it's one of those things that I'm like, cool, this
is a highlight of my career, like this is like
the next step, and sure, so I'm excited to you know,

(28:22):
it was funny because I was going through a little
bit of a rut lately. I was kind of like, like,
what am I doing, which I everyone goes through it,
I'm sure, but I was just like, oh, like I
just kind of didn't feel that motivated for a little
bit for like a month, and then when I got
that yeah, And then when I got that message, I
was like, oh shit, okay, time to get back to work.

(28:44):
You know.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
I just, yeah, it would be cool enough to let
let you talk to him about stuff too. You know,
most most guys I've worked with have been super cool
about stuff like that. You know, It's very rare that
you find like some asshole that will just kind of
blow you off. But I you know, I would definitely,

(29:07):
I would probably wait till Saturday until you know him
a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
You know, sometimes sometimes guys, like because travel day can
be really hard. A lot of people will travel in
the day of the show, and you know, they're tired,
and sometimes you could think that they're kind of like
pissed off or something at you or something like that.
But it's usually just you know, a long travel day

(29:31):
and they just want to get the shows over with
so they can rest and then usually the next day
is a lot better in my experience.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
That's good to know.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
I had a club owner one time. I was like,
I was sitting there and he's like, he's like, I
don't think that that other comic likes me much. What
are you talking about it? He's like, you know, he
doesn't really talk to me a lot. I was like, well,
he just drove seven hours. Also, he probably talking exhausted. Yeah,
I guess I didn't think of that.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
That's so funny, dude. Yeah, yeah, I think I'm looking
forward to it, and I'm excited to kind of take
what I will learn this weekend into like future shows
and even producing my own shows over here in Santa Fe.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
For sure, make sure you talk to I forget the
guy's name now, I can look through me at my emails,
but make sure you talked to him about getting your
set videos of your set. Excuse me, because they film,
they film all the sets, Okay, yeah, and yeah, just

(30:40):
hit them up and the asking me to get your sets like,
it's really nice, looks sharp. Hopefully they fixed the audio.
Sometimes the audio is kind of rough.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
But do you have to pay for it or no?
Huh okay, because I know, like some comedy clubs, you
would have to pay like twenty bucks in order to
get your like film like Comedy Works.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, I've done that a few times. The Comedy Works.
They've got that camera built into this ceiling and stuff
and got sweet audio and all that cool.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I've always wanted to perform there, dude.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
It's so awesome, I bet dude, it's yeah. I used
to Uh. I used to go there all the time
when I lived in Denver, and uh, you know, I
got a host there on the New Talent Night. New
Talent Night there is so awesome. It's like on a
Tuesday and they packed that fucking thing. Dude. It's crazy.

(31:33):
But they they've got so many good comics there, like
you know, even the open micers are solid. But then
they always have like three or four three or four
professional comics on the show. And then they have like
someone like pretty well known headline you know, like Josh
Blue pop in and do a little ten minute headline
spot or Ben Roy or something like that, you know,
So I love You've been Roy so goddamn good.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah, he's so good. He's so underrated.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, sure, I remember. I still remember the first time
I saw him at the Comedy Works because I went
to see my favorite comedian was Troy Baxley. Oh yeah.
So I had just moved to town like a month,
a month prior to this, and then so I saw
Troy was headlining Comedy Works and I happen to be
in town. It's like a Sunday night, and so he

(32:21):
was headlining, and Ben Roy I think, did like twenty
and fucking annihilated. And then TJ. Miller was there. He
was just in town hanging out because he's from Denver,
and he did like a ten minute spot and I'd
never heard of him either, like I had seen him
in a movie or something, But dude, he came out

(32:43):
and crushed. And then Backsley went on and crushed. It
was like, that was one of the best comedy shows
I've ever seen in my life. Wow. Yeah, I can't
even remember who opened, but I'm sure it was a crusher.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
It's funny because, like, do you feel like the Mexico
comedy slowly getting into that wave now because I feel
like it's growing crazy, dude.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah, there's a there's so many good comics here, it's insane.
And there's a lot of them. You know, there's a
lot of comics, a lot of a lot of shows,
a lot of open mics, a lot of showcases. We
got two clubs now seem to have three they like
compared to when I started, Like it's insane. Like when

(33:25):
I started, we had like there were like three local
comics that were headliners. They were like older guys that
have been doing it for a long time. And then
there was like just a handful of open micers, you
know what I mean. Yeah, like it was there there
were no open mics, so they would have to do

(33:47):
you know, once a month at the comedy club, and
uh there weren't very many like local hosts, like hosts
on the shows. So they were bringing in comics from
like Phoenix and Denver and stuff to host and yeah,
so we yeah, we I don't know how long that

(34:07):
went on, man, it was. Uh so I started in
two thousand and one. I started hosting like in two
thousand and three, and uh yeah, they were only a
handful of us that were like hosting regularly, and then
I think by the two thousand and six or seven,
we started getting a little bit bigger. There started to

(34:30):
be some open mics around town. Not a ton, but
it was enough where you know, you could work on
some stuff so you can get better for the comedy
club open mic, you know.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, So it was just kind of weird at the
comedy club one because it's like you're only doing five
months or five minutes a month, so you got to
decide are you gonna work on here's stuff that you
know is good, like keep working on that or work
on new stuff for you know what I mean. So
it was really hard to really develop your acts. But

(35:07):
I was lucky enough where I was doing, like the
club owner like me right away, so I was doing
guest spots pretty regularly at the professional show. Like my
second show is a professional show, my third show is
a professional show. So that was kind of nice, you know,
doing five minutes on these professional shows, and you know,

(35:28):
I'd get pointers from the club owner and then I'd
get some pointers from the other comedians and stuff too,
So that's awesome. Yeah, eating shit in front of professional comedian.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
That's always fun.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah, but it was a good learning experience for sure,
you know, like doing well with the jokes I started
with and then eating shit with them the following week,
you know, like it was fucking with me a little bits,
Like there were plenty last week. What the fuck's going
on now?

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Right, that's the game of it, dude, And there's still
sometimes I'm like, why didn't still why is it working
now and not last week?

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah? Yeah, it's so funny. Sometimes it's just like the
wording of it or the way you say it, or just.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
The timing or if it's the crowd too, like it's
it's weird, dude, And it's it's crazy like this week
and will mark fifty shows that I perform in the
year that I got back in December twentieth. Yeah, So
it's like there's so many gigs happening. There's so many
like reps to put in and like that's not even

(36:36):
like that's not even talking about open mics. Like there's
so many opportunities to constantly work on your craft and
get back on stage now, which is so weird. I
never thought I would have like three gigs and one
night in New Mexico.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Yeah, So yeah, that is cool, man, you can get
on stage almost every night I think in Albuquerque.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, well maybe not Tuesday anymore. They just the Slice
Parlors closing down.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah, well you can go up to Santa Fe that
night and tryout cakes. We're at Cakes Cafe, Okay, yeah sweet.
So it's it's a really good mic. I like, uh,
I do love like the community there. And now there's
like seven sixty seven shows a month in Santa Fe only.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Do That's insane?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Man?

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah, my I used to hate performing in Santa Fe
really yeah. I just I couldn't figure out the crowd.
It took a long time. My first road gig, though, ever,
was in Santa Fe at the Cowgirl Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah it was Collen was that two thousand and three,
and it was my first time ever driving to Santa.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Fe, don't you from.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
I had never even driven into Santa Fe, had no
desire to go there, you know, I get it. That
got booked the show and then I twenty five was
actually closed that day. Some some dude killed himself on
I twenty five that day, so they closed it down.
So I had to take like a different route to
get there.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Jeez.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
And I was like, way before cell phone, you know,
you had a map on your cell phone and stuff.
I was like using my fucking rand McNally, Like.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Where am I going?

Speaker 1 (38:23):
You know.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
That's so funny, dude.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Yeah, yeah, Santa Fe crowds were always kind of like
uptight and weird, like especially like for my style of comedy.
So I always hated doing shows there for the longest time.
And then I don't know when I started liking it,
But I don't know, I just I don't know. I
did a I did a show in the I was like, uh,

(38:51):
this guy has like a mobile art gallery. Oh, like
this truck and he so he he built like a
little comedy club in the back of his truck and
he built like a stage. So he pulled his truck
into like the rail yard area, and so I performed

(39:16):
in his truck. And then there were just like people
sitting out on chairs outside this little brewery there.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
If someone was just listening in on this little like
snippet of the podcast. So yeah, I was performing in
his truck and everyone was watching. You know what.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
It sounds funny, but it was actually a really good show.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
I can't remember who else did the show. There's a
guy from Santa Fe at the time who was really funny.
I don't know if he moved or whatever or doesn't
do comedy anymore, but yeah, it was a lot of fun.
It was just kind of weird because, like, you know,
the crowd was kind of there was there was a
crowd of people like sitting in the in the seats,

(40:04):
but then there are people like kind of walking in
and out and stuff, you know, because there's a lot
of foot traffic in that area. And then you know,
once in a while there was like a kid there.
So yeah, I kind of got to watch it, you know,
but that was probably my first like fun Santa Fe
show that I ever did.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, I remember I did a show one time and
I walked half the crowd on the first joke like
I was headlining, and it wasn't going well anyway. Like
the show's just I don't know, I don't know who
these people were in the crowd, like they were like
super uptight people. And then I I just opened with

(40:45):
a joke that I had written that day, like about
Santa Fe, you know, and didn't go very well.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
It's funny man, because it's like for me, like Santa
Fe is my favorite crowd right now, Like I love
the crowds they're they're like it's like comedy is like
they're more like laid back when they know it's a
comedy show and they're like laughing a lot. They understand
the that is just jokes, which is great, and uh,

(41:15):
they like clever humor. Yeah, they love clever humor unless
it's like all fierce comedy show at Carlos Medina show.
It's almost similar to like a Santa Rosa show where
you have to kind of like you know, you have
to have like dumb down your jokes a little bit
so and make it more Latino and they'll be like
I love this guy.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Yeah that that is a fun challenge about Santa Fe. Like,
I've definitely liked it a lot more. I really like
what's that one?

Speaker 2 (41:48):
N you?

Speaker 1 (41:51):
I can't think of the name now.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
It wasn't the Kava Bar, is it?

Speaker 1 (41:56):
No? I didn't like that one all right? I was
it was it has like a cool backstage area and
you kind of and you enter the stage from backstage. No,
the it was like a brewery. I guess I didn't
really narrow it down. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's that's cool.

(42:19):
I like the elevated stage, like being that that much
above the crowd. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
I never performed there. I wanted to do that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Yeah it was fun. Man. I did a couple sets
there and had a good time. But yeah, Jehan Coto
is really cool too. That's a really nice theater, and
I liked the revisions they did to it and stuff.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
I know, we performed for the first time when they
had a green room.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah that was awesome. Man.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
It wasn't like a huge crowd, but it was pretty fun.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
It was a great time. I thought it was still
pretty cool, and I think it was just not promoted
as much, but yeah, it still was a fun time.
And I really that was my first green room experience,
and it was cool doing that with you and Keith,
because the first time I performed at a show in
Albuquerque was actually with you and Keith.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, Rack Gorilla, Yeah yeah, yeah that's cool man.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Yeah, it's funny because even my first corporate gig was
with you and Keith. Oh yeah. So it's like you
guys are like the stepdad's and never wanted to comment.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
That's cool, man. Yeah. I actually I did a set
with Keith last night. We uh we did our. It
was the first show at the block in Rio Rancho.
Oh how was that, dude? It was? It was fun, man,
it was. It kind of sucked because the crowds like
kind of far away and it was outside, so you
wouldn't like it, and it was it was windy, it

(43:58):
was super windy. But it was fun. Man. I It's
hard to hear the laughs though, so I don't know
if plus I'm deaf in this year, so I don't
know if I did well. I feel like I did,
but I don't know. I'll go back and listen to
the audio and see if I can hear laughter. It
was fun though. It was a good crowd, a good

(44:20):
sized crowd, you know for the first one, and awesome lineup,
you know. And not all the restaurants are open yet
over there, and there's gonna be a bar that's gonna
be open, but you know, there's quite a few little
restaurants that are going to be open. And I think
there's like a jewelry shop and wow, there's like an
upstairs bar and then another place when can get some
drinks and stuff. So I think it's gonna be really

(44:42):
cool when it's all ready to rock.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
You know. Yeah, I'm gonna be over there on October
twenty ninth to perform.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Are you okay? Cool?

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Nah?

Speaker 1 (44:49):
I might have to pop in.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
I'll be in town, so yeah, please sit pretty close.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Yeah, well, they don't even have the chairs that close.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
I saw it, dude, It's like a football fieled away
from this.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah. Yeah, it was kind of Yeah, it was. It
was weird. It was like kind of spread out quite
a bit, which is fine, you know, I guess, but
I don't know. Yeah, I don't really like performing outdoors
all that much either, but I don't know. Kind of
take what you can get.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
It's a rap. That's how I kind of have to
look at it. It's like it's a rep for sure. Yeah,
for sure.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
I felt like the the sound was okay. I feel
like my microphone kept cutting out, but I don't know,
I don't know if that was just me not hearing
I don't.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Know, probably the wind.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yeah, poor Jacotaro. We had to hold him down the stage.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
And it's funny. H Do you know a comic and
Santa Fe named Taylor Cheek huh. Well, he's also a
very small comic, and he is like, dude, you, me
and Jakecotero should do a show together and we should
call it the Trip to Mordor. It's like, absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
That would be pretty funny, I think.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah, yeah, I know, And I was like, hell, if
you pay me, I'll do it.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Yeah for sure. How long is Keith and Turder there
on the green room?

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah? That's so funny.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Hell yeah? How much time are you doing? That? Is
you're hosting?

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Right, I'm hosting, doing ten minutes and then presenting the
featured act and the headliner. If there is a featured act,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Yeah, yeah, I wonder if there will be, because I know, wat.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Watch it be you.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Weekend. That would be cool though, It would be cool
me and Keith. Yeah, I don't think he's performed there
since opening week. He was there opening week and hasn't
been back yet.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Who knows. It probably be him him, that'd be funny.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know if he was gonna he
might want to do a full hour, you know, since
he's working on his new special, I don't know if
he's going to do like a full hour special or whatever.
But I mean I'm curious if he's doing forty five
or an hour or forty Actually, yeah, mostly they usually
just have the headliner do forty there. Okay, so yeah,

(47:34):
becas it's kind of different than a normal comedy club
since it's in a casino, they have shorter times, so
they do ten, twenty and forty instead of like fifteen,
thirty and forty five, So the show's a little bit shorter.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yeah, Like when I performed with Willie Barsena, he did
an hour every night, so it was everyone else was
just basically doing ten you know.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yeah. So was it always three comics or is it
usually like one comic and the headliner, because I know
when I was there, I saw a Marie, then Brian Sullivan,
and then it was any Letterman headlining.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Yeah, it's usually three Okay, Yeah, I just saw any
Letterman and Terrifier three.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Oh really, she's a Terrifier three?

Speaker 1 (48:26):
She is?

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Oh shit? How is that movie? Was a good?

Speaker 1 (48:30):
It's so good? Okay, Yeah, it's probably my favorite movie
of the year so far.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
All right.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah, I don't know if you like the Terrifier movies,
but yeah, I went to a double feature the other
day they were playing Terrifier two and three. Oh, wowing, badass.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
That's awesome. Yeah, it's funny because I like horror films. Uh,
my wife does too, but she doesn't really like Gore.
Oh that's all Terrifier is really. Yeah, but I did
like Late Night with the Devil. Have you seen that film?

Speaker 1 (49:04):
I haven't seen that one. Huh.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Oh dude, it's so good.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Yeah, horror movies this month.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Yeah, it's so good. I saw it on Amazon Prime.
I think I rented it if I'm not mistaken, but
it's on the app called Shutter as well. But it's
such a great film, it's worth the six dollars that
you're gonna pay on Amazon.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
So the Devil late Night he gets on late night
because he bombed in for US and Ukrainians. Is that
what it's about.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Yeah, that's all that's all that's about.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yeah, it's about him preparing for a set on late night.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, yeah, after he bombed in Santa Rosa.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Yeah, in Santa Rosa, right.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Fucker.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's cool. Any of the Yeah, any
was in Terrified three. She actually I went to college
in Santa Fe. Did you know that?

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yeah? And it's funny because I went to her show
and I went with one of her old college friends. Yeah,
and so we were talking about Santa Fe and the
apartments that she used to live in. Santa Fe is
where I'm living at right now. Yeah, so crazy. Yeah,
So we were talking about Santa Fe and it was

(50:25):
a really cool conversation, kind of picking her brain about
like comedy and stuff. Yeah, but she was just like, yeah,
I had to leave Santa Fe because I was drinking
way too much. And I was like, yep, I feel that.
I feel that.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, she's doing great. Man, she's kicking ass.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
I saw her on Harlan Williams podcast not too long ago,
a couple of months probably.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah, she's killing it man.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
And it's really cool to see people that actually lived
here to go over there and you know, do big things.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
But it didn't happen very often.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
It doesn't. But I feel like now we're getting into
that age where I think being here is just gonna
You're gonna make it big being here now, you know
what I mean. It's just gonna take time. But I
do think, uh, New Mexico is gonna get to where
Colorado's at. And yeah, the next five years.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
I feel great. Hell yeah, yeah, I'm super excited for
Hyenas to open. Man, it's gonna be cool having all
this comedy here. Man, It's uh, there's gonna be some
weekends where it's like, man, I want to go to
so many shows.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
I know it's already getting to that point, dude.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
I remember in Albuquerque there was just six shows alone
happening and it was all getting filled. And now Santa
Fe is getting to that point where it's like multiple
comedy shows in one night. And I'm excited to be
a part of it. And I do want to be
a part of Santa Fe's growth in comedy. And I
would love to see a comedy club open in Santa
Fe one day, because, like, I think it's gonna be

(51:58):
great for New Mexico in general.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Yeah, that'd be cool. That'd be really cool. I'm curious
where what a good spot would be for that.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
It has to be in the plaza, dude. Yeah, people
can walk from the hotels to over there, or maybe
even at a hotel.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Oh yeah, that'd be kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
There are a decent amount of comedy clubs, like smaller
clubs that are in hotels and stuff.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yeah. Yeah, I know that Carlos Medina started doing the
Tasuke Casino comedy club. Yeah, and that's pretty cool. I'm
excited to see where he goes with that too, and
where the Jean Cocte is gonna go to as well,
because that's becoming pretty much a comedy club as well. Yes,

(52:45):
once a month, but I would like to see more
shows there.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely getting that way. It seems like
that's cool. Yeah, who are some of your comedy influences.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
It's funny because, like, my favorite comedian of all time
is Bill Burr, but I feel like my influences is
like Mike Berbiglia, Fred Armison, who else? John Mulaney's one
of my big ones, Dug Stanhope. Those are kind of
like my biggest influences in my comedy.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
That's cool. Yeah, nobody ever says Fred Armison.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
I love Fred Armison.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Awesome is one of the funniest shows.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I love him and Bill Hayter together. They're like such
a great duo and I wish they could do like
a sketch special together. It's just those two because they're
so great together. And the reason why I say fred
Armison is because I feel like I do a lot
of impressions in my act and he's such a great impressionist,
and the fact that he's also like Latin American and

(53:51):
he's like he actually gets that Latino audience too. With
his show on HBO. I think it's called The Spooky,
so it's like, yeah, and it's a Mexican comedy show
on HBO, and you know, he's doing a lot for
like the Latino market, and I feel like that's something

(54:12):
that I would love to get into as well.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
So that's really cool.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
I would love to do a Spanish only speaking comedy
show up here.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
That'd be badass.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Yeah, just and I don't I haven't written anything in
Spanish yet, but I would love to practice that muscle. Yeah,
and especially on the south side of Santa Fe, there's
so many Spanish speakers, so it'll.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Be really cool. Man. I've heard the comedy scene like
in Mexico is is pretty good. Like it's they never
really had one and now it's kind of like booming
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Yeah, it's pretty easy to get in touch with too,
to get booked over there. It's Mexico City, so.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Yeah, you have a friend that books some stuff down there.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
We gotta go.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Have you seen document Now?

Speaker 2 (55:01):
I love Documentary Now, dude.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Yeah you know Stephen Michael Casada is in an episode.
No way, yeah, no way, he plays what did you play? Well, yeah,
he was telling me about it. I can't remember he's
telling me about it on his podcast or he was
just telling me about it in person. But yeah, they
they thought he spoke Spanish, but he doesn't because like

(55:24):
Fred Armison does. But he's playing like I can't remember.
It's like Pancho Villa or something someone. It's one of
the first episodes.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
I think, dude, I'm gonna if one side meat Stephen
Michael Cassada, I'm gonna be like, oh my god, you're
Michael Casata from Documentary Now. That's crazy. I love that show.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
I did that to uh Loo for Rick Now. Yeah.
I knew I was going to meet him because I
got this comic con working for some people, and uh
one of the guys that was next to us was
like really good friends with him. He's like, you want
to meet him? He's like, yeah, can I meet him tomorrow?
And he's like yeah, He's like he just looked at me.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Weird.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
I was like, I just want to do something funny.
He's like okay. I was like, does he have a
good sense of humor. He's like, yeah, he's got a
great sense of humors. So I I looked at his
IMDb page to find like a really obscure role that
he did, and he was on that show night Court,
like the old one. Yeah, he played a character called

(56:32):
the Klondike Butcher. So I found a picture of him
from Night Court and I printed it out and put
it in my wallet and I like folded it up
a bunch of times, so it looked like I'd been
in my wallet for years, you know. And so the
next day I meet him and I look at him
and I was like pointing at him. I was like

(56:52):
I know you, and he's like kind of like shaking
his head like yeah. I was like, you're the Klondike
Butcher on Night Court. And I pulled out the picture.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
How was his reaction on that?

Speaker 1 (57:05):
He laughed, Okay, that's good, and he's like, you didn't
really see that.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
I was like, nah, I didn't, dude, that's so funny.
There's a So I met one of my professional wrestling heroes.
His name is Paul London. Oh yeah, yeah, and he
was like a WW tag team champion, cruiserweight champion, did
a lot of flips and ship in the indie circuit,
Ringham Honor Champion. Like he's very successful. He's like only

(57:33):
people that are fans of his are just huge, like
pro wrestling Nerds is not really a mainstream like name.
But when I first met him, I was just like,
oh my god, you're Paul London. He's like yeah, And
I was like, I saw you in the asap Ford
music video. You were awesome there.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Love hip hop that awesome.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Yeah. Yeah. We're really good friends, now, are you. Yeah.
He's thinking about doing comedy because now he lives in
LA and his mother lives in Eldorado. Oh really yeah,
so he comes for a vacation so I get to
hang out with him. It's really funny because it's like

(58:15):
I used to watch that dude on TV all the time. Yeah,
and now it's like we're friends. And sometimes I feel
like he's just caffishing me that it's not really Paul London,
but it's it's him. Yeah, It's like, sure, I'm Paul London.
It's Keanu Reeves the whole time.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
He's that good of an actor. Yeah, you have the
you know, it's funny. The first celebrity I ever saw
in my life was a wrestler. Really, it was Jim
the Anville night Heart.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Dude. That's sick, dud.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
It was. Yeah. I was God damn. I was young,
six or seven, maybe maybe younger than that, and uh yeah,
I was with my family and we're walking into the
store and he was walking out, and me and my
brother were just like, no fucking way, dude.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
He's so huge too, Dude at that goatee.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Yeah, yeah, I think he's dead now.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Yeah, he died, he passed away.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
His daughter is wrestling and she's been wrestling for almost
two decades too.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
I know.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Shit. Yeah, that whole family is like wrestling royalty in Calgary.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Dude, I'm going to Calgary next week.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
I saw that in the bottom.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Talk about that.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Yeah, do it?

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Yeah I will.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
So long since I've watched wrestling, but I love watching
like old wrestling documentaries and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
And oh dude, I'm still obsessed with it, dude.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
WrestleMania three was still the fucking greatest, one of the
greatest sporting events I've ever watched him life, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
It's it's huge. It was when Hulk Hogan did that
body slam on Andre the Giant. It's very historical at
this point.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Yeah, did you want You probably saw the Vince McMahon
thing on Netflix, right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
I got kind of bored after the second episode. I'm
not gonna lie because I already know about it. Yeah,
but for someone who never knew anything about pro wrestling
or was just kind of like a casual fan, it's
a pretty well made documentary.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Yeah. I didn't know about some of the stuff, like
with with Hogan and and Andre the Giant, Like I
didn't know that Hulk Cogan didn't know who was gonna
win the match.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Yeah, yeah, dude, because man was such a great businessman.
He was like he took it to another level. He
made pro wrestling so mainstream for where it is today.
Like he's a piece of shit, but like a lot
of great businessmen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Or dude, Yeah, yeah, a lot of a lot of
people who are successful or assholes that I tried being
an asshole for a couple of days and hard to do,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
For It's like me trying to be quiet and mysterious,
but I just don't shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Yeah, a lot of people were talking about you. I'm
just kidding. Well, thanks for coming on again. Man, we're
almost at the hour mark already, that one by super fast.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Yeah, thank you for having me, having.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Me on again. I hopefully we didn't talk about stuff
we talked about on the first time You're on, but
I didn't go back to listen, so I don't know.
I I hate watching my own podcast, so that's why
I don't really record many of them edit and stuff.
I just realized I spelled loonies wrong on this fucking thing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
I was like, I didn't know there was so many ease.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Well, it's funny because my my keyboard is broken, so
like the e gets stuck sometimes. It was funny. It
was funny because the D wasn't working. I told my
sister and I was like, I was like, hey, I
tell you something. She's like what I was like, look

(01:02:19):
at this morning and my D wasn't working. She's like
what I was like on my keyboard not even me. Yes,
I think I've got it up here somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Your D.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Where do I put it? Right there?

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
There D?

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
My keyboard is broken. Well, have fun with Steve Byrne. Dude,
if you want to go see Jean Hernandez it Caesada
is this week. It's Friday and Saturday. Two shows. Is
it seven and nine thirty?

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Yes, it's seven and nineth thirty October eighteenth and nineteenth.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Berneley Okasa as Comedy Cantina. Then I got yeah, and
then I have a few shows lined up after that.
I got a Cake's Cafe at Santa Fe at the
twenty fourth, and then I'm performing at Iconic Red on
the twenty fifth, also Santa Fe and then for Rio

(01:03:22):
Rancho be there on October twenty ninth, yes, at about
the Block yep, and then where else and then on
November sixth I have a show as above, so below
and Santa Fe as well. So hope to see you
guys there and thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Kurt. Yeah, absolutely, man, go follow Jean on his social
media's just look up his name. You'll find him for sure. Yeah,
thank well, good luck man. Have fun with Steve Byrne.
Tell him I stood hi even though I've never met him. Yay.
Kirk Fletcher says, I yeah, yeah, he's kind of ship

(01:04:01):
or not awesome, thanks buddy, will enjoy the rest.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Of your day, all right, you too, Thank you man.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Alright, see you buddy. But