Episode 83: Comedian-Phil Romero

Phil Romero joins Curt to talk comedy, Norm MacDonald, hosting shows, his big upcoming show with Alex Benton and more in this episode!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
His name is a really funny guy and this is
his podcast in your rise.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Right letter.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hey, thanks for tuning in. It's in the Rye Podcast,
episode eighty three, and it's the first podcast I've recorded
this year. It's been a while doing some shows. We
got a new comedy club here in Albuquerque, Hyenas Comedy Club,
where he performed there twice with a couple of guys
from Kill Tony Hans Kim and William Montgomery kick ass

(00:44):
shows over there. Haven't seen William in about ten years,
so that's cool to see him again. Yeah, I got
some shows coming up this weekend. Will be at Casadas
Comedy Club here in New Mexico. I'm at San Ana Casino.
I'll be there April twenty fifth, twenty six, three shows,

(01:06):
one show Friday, two shows Saturday with Molly Carney who
is on SNL. And then May first, I'll be in Carrie,
North Carolina doing a Dontel comedy show. May second, I'm
in Durham, North Carolina. May third and fourth in Raleigh,
North Carolina. Then May twenty third, I'm headlining Gnarley's in

(01:28):
Golden Colorado. May twenty fourth, I'll have three shows at
the Denver Comedy Lounge. May twenty fifth, I'm at Comedy
Works Downtown in Denver doing a show called Thick Skin,
which is a really fun one. What else I got?
June twenty sixth through the twenty ninth, I'll be at

(01:48):
the Lave Factory in Reno, Nevada my buddy Tim Gather.
July twenty fourth, I'll be at the End of the
Mountain Gods in Mescalero, New Mexico, headline on that show,
and then I'll be back headlining at the Comedy Cave
in Calgary September twenty ninth through October fourth. All the
dates are at Funny Fletcher dot com. All the ticket

(02:10):
links are on there. If you want to check out
a show, please do. And this is the first podcast
I've recorded this year. I was kind of focusing on
the Stop Stalling podcast I do with Tim college wrestling podcast.
If for endo that go check it out. Usually record
during the college wrestling season, and now that that's over,

(02:32):
I will hopefully be doing more of this podcast. And
today is a fun one. We have a comedian from Albuquerque.
He was also a producer. His name is Phil Romero.
So I hope you enjoy this podcast, me and Phil Romero,
and as always, thanks to Jared Reddick from Welling for

(02:53):
Soup for the intro music, John Singleton from Anesthesia for
the outro music. I enjoy this podcast, Everybody, Phil Romero, Hey, everybody.
We're recording in the Right Podcast, episode eighty three with
Albuquerque's second least favorite comedian, Phil Romero. Hi, Phil Romero,

(03:18):
what's up, Kurt?

Speaker 1 (03:18):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I'm doing good. I'm excited to have Albuquerque's second least
favorite comedian on my podcast. I haven't been able to
get the least favorite on yet. You know who the
least favorite is, Phil Romero. I don't think to say it.
I don't think we have to say Alex Benton's name, right.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
I mean there, I feel like there's different people of it,
a lot of them public. I mean, people don't even
know about Albuquerque comedy.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
You mean al Querque Comedy is a little like circle
of like who cares about Colledy and Albuquerque?

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Dude, that circle is so small right now. I'm like, dude,
Turkey is a funny enough place that all of us
could eat here. You should all eat here, which is awesome.
It's like awesome. I don't know Kurt, there's a there's
a lot of movement. Mobility to Alvin Turkey is cool,
I think actually.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
And I like Alex Manon I was just goofing around.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah I know. And I also like Alex. You this
one podcast, my girlfriend hiwing her outfit and looks cut
and she's gonna go to work.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
She's going to work?

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Is that what you said?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Do you really have a comment film?

Speaker 6 (04:36):
Can we kill the podcast? Maybe it will be or no?
Say what's up in the Rye podcast?

Speaker 1 (04:49):
In the Rye.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
It's a real woman. Well for you, Phil.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Long, I'm not I like women. That's bed. Yes, I
got my beat. Real She's gonna start crying and how
generous I am. She's literally so happy right now. I'm
pretty good at talking to women date they like talking.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, well, yeah, you're you're a nice guy to talk to,
Like as bad of a comedian as you are, Like,
you're actually a really good dude to talk to.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Yeah, I just why I think I'm never gonna do
comedy again because I'm bad at that.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
But I'm gonna do production. What I'll spend him and
just get his shows fucking tight.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Have you thought about being good at comedy or trying
to be good at comedy.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
I mean, yes, And I think that that'll just come
along the way, you know, like I think that I
I try to. I try to live my life comedically
more like all of my friends I think are very
very funny, Like I I really enjoy spending time with
people who made me laugh.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Like if they're funnier than me, that's just like a
good thing. Like letting go kiss my girlfriend. I can't
just that's crazy good.

Speaker 7 (06:16):
Yeah, m hm m hm hm.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Oh yeah, this is the game in this podcast history
eighty three episodes, The Gass Moment.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
No, it's sentimental, I mean, come on, loving a woman
is Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yes, I didn't think you were listening. Yeah, I didn't listen.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
I'm on the per Just leave your hanging because I
have to say goody to my girlfriend quick and she
did and she donny.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Does your girlfriend think you're funny?

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I think so, like on stage, like you're a funny
enough guy off stage, but does she think you're She's
been to a show of yours.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
She's been to a.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Bunch of different shows and and the thing is is,
like you you haven't seen me kill recently? But I've
I've gotten pretty decent at at some some bits, just.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Like running them amongst friends, like I feel like they
will work. And I've done in fifteens where it wasn't
like uncomfortable at all, it was just cozy, just in
the pocket.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Nice. Because I actually haven't seen perform almost a year,
probably probably.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
I mean because I was I've been teaching. I haven't
really performed much. I've done a few little shows.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Do you practice jokes on the kids that you teach?

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Honestly, not often, but they joke around with me constantly,
Like they're constantly just joking with me about anything.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Do they know you stand up?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
H they do. They've pulled up my show flyers. We're like,
this is your listener. I told you to dude. The
picture of me that's in my teacher profile is a
picture of me doing stand up comedy, like looking like
with the mic, like back at the room, And that's

(08:30):
my picture for being a teacher is like doing stand
up comedy at a festival in Elka. I'm like, yeah,
I really really at least try to do this shit professionally. Yeah,
Like they have a Star Wars.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Oh have you ever done a podcast?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Phil I had one in called out of social Distance.
I was like, chairs and ship, Yeah, you look it
up right now. You shouldn't have benna. No.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
I started this podcast in twenty twenty and this is
only the eighty third episode.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, whoa.

Speaker 8 (09:19):
I didn't mind when we got to like five my shop.
I thought it was a cool idea. I just yeah,
I didn't continue it. People will talk to me about it.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
You Oh really, m hmm, okay it. It can be
hard to be consistent with podcasts.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
It is.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
I get a lot of people to cancel or uh,
don't have to change times all the time.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, I mean not you, Phil.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
You said let's do it tomorrow three thirty, and here
you are.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Now I've been looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
I could tell you're excited.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
I mean, it's cool to be able to talk to
somebody on a recorded podcast who like handed you the
mic for your first laugh, Like, do you saw me
do stand up? You hosted me doing stand up for
a minute, and I was like, some of my favorite

(10:30):
some of my favorite mics. You and Holly were handing
me the monkey.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, those are fun. I didn't realize that that was
like your first time because I had just moved back
to town, I think, so I didn't really know who
was who, like some of the new newer comics. So yeah,
I thought that was cool to see you like perform
some of your first sets and stuff like that. I
thought that was pretty cool. And you're going to school
at the time, also, right, well.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah, that's actually the first lap I ever got on stage,
which was like open Mic said, I wouldn't tell people.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
I would just show up and embarrass myself, like you remember,
oh yeah, and I would just be talking about whatever,
like zero crowd interaction, like the crowd may as well
not have even there. I'm saying some weird shit.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Well it's hard to interact when the crowd's just comics
though too.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
I didn't know. I was sudden new. I was just
doing trying to do crowd work, and I'm like, yeah, comics,
you know. And then they started talking about my ship,
like my first mic Jack taps. She was like this
fuck bighead, like was just roasting the ship out of
me in my first over mind because I just had
like a story that I thought was like mm hmm,

(11:41):
I pull it and got one laugh at the very end,
like one decent laugh. But it was like a throw wage.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Mm hmm. That's the hard thing about Like, that's why
I don't like telling stories on stages, because like you
have to have like it has to be funny, like
all the way throughout, you know, not just at the end.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Phil, Yeah, No.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
But the thing is is I had told that story
multiple times before, and it was funny all.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
The way through. And I thought that, just like my
told story at a party that worked multiple times, could
just easily be my first stand up bit. And it didn't.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Work at all.

Speaker 9 (12:23):
It was bad the whole thing, and I was like, oh, fuck,
this is so terrible to do your first openly about
a story where your pants ripped and you're taking a
final exam and you're just like staring at your own dick.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
I thought that it was funny. I didn't know how
to communicate that on stage, and I was like, having
to take a final exam and stare at your winder
is un company.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
You know, like, yeah, the friends try to write all
the answers on there, and you're not gonna fit very
much on there.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yeah, My Dick gave me a heads up when I
got to I don't know, just some weird word play about.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
My teacher caught me cheating. I wrote the answers on
my dick.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah that's a weird looking note card.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah that is not five by seven.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Were you up all night cramming?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
So I just didn't know how to write the jokes
around it. But I think that in the moment I
could pick up steam and like, just like you know,
rip out a pudding story like I I'd always been
like a kid who can make people.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Laugh in school.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
That's so hard to translate this stage though, exactly.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
But you can't.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
So you can well, I don't know if you can,
but people are just kidding. Yeah, yeah, there's some great
great story do you So do you watch like a
storyteller comedians to like try and uh? Who are some
of your favorites like Christopher Titus? I think when I'm

(14:04):
one of the best at storytelling in.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
My opinion, Christopher Titus.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, if you ever ever watched him.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
I don't think so, I don't think i'veny word. You
know you should?

Speaker 3 (14:16):
You should watch him. His storytelling is amazing, yeah, post
off tight Yeah, yeah, because if that's something you want
to do, is like tell stories in your in your act,
like really watch some of those really good guys, and
I think Titus is probably the best in my opinion

(14:39):
at telling stories.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I mean I I like look and watch, like dude,
I have like written out different jokes and just like
looked at how they work in different crowds. Like one
of my favorite is Mike Robiglia and he did that.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
Yeah, I listened to him do that all the time
on road trips, and it was it was amazing how
he would just like create such a silly narrative and
run with it the whole time.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Like he like made a weird joke about how like
hamburgers and hotdogs were bombs in the Middle East, and
like but boll TONI was the president who like was
George W. Bush And it's like it's a really tangled joke,
but it works really well because everybody's on board because
of how well the narrative is spun. And but the

(15:37):
thing is is I didn't even know how to be funny.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
So when I was doing when I was doing early
stuff on stage, I was just trying to be funny.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
But I wasn't really like considering how the audience would
receive it. It's just I was just telling them stuff
I thought was funny, Like just all kinds of weird
shit that I would just think was funny in a
moment and started laughing and be like, oh, I'll just
talk about that on the stage, and I would like
try to hitch my case for why it was funny.

(16:06):
I guess I don't know, but like I remember just
like having an idea and be like, ooh, I'll I'll
rip that out and have some ideas if I had
a set list of ship that was just like shit
that I thought was funny, but I still have to
this day that are just like old set lists. Like
I've been thinking about those ideas and I was like,
they are funny. I just didn't flush any of them out.

(16:27):
I was just like, this is why this is, this
is what this is fy like almost like what is
your process?

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Like do you just think of the story and then
just take it on stage or do you sit down
and write?

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Well, I mean I've done both. I don't. I don't
generally sit down and write, but I like take very
considerable time to like think about the angles and then
like I also I also just feel like a lot.

Speaker 10 (16:57):
Of my my writing ski is just like creating better win,
which is just like bargaining at a state sales like
getting good deals on stuff is all just comedic banter.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
I think. I think a comedy as a process is
just like Okay, how funny are you?

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Want?

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Two? Three?

Speaker 11 (17:19):
Go?

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Not so much as how good of a joke writer
are you?

Speaker 4 (17:22):
And I think there really are two ways of thought
about that, like are you funny?

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Like are you Matt Raife where you're going up and
be like how old are you? That's gonna be you
oldest pussy here and everyone you know like and like
a really good joke writer who's very practiced and measured
and is telling a story like and I think that
I'm somewhere between where I have jokes, but I also

(17:46):
like to get off track and just like chat around
with the crowd, just be silly about it, Like which
is it is an act? That that is a good act?
People could call it hackey, but people who do it
well have a good knack for it. Like it's not
crowd work. It's like they're just messing around with an audience.

(18:08):
They're just playing around. Yeah, I've always admired that where
like a comedian gets like yelled at and they can
like have some silly little retort. Like I always thought
that the crowd interaction was a really big part of
stand up. I just didn't know. I didn't know how
to even try it. At a Rusty's mic was the

(18:31):
first place that I ever really showed crowd work because
it was so small.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
They just felt like we were talking to a room
of people and just like a small room of people.
And I told a joke about, like it's nice in
like twenty twenty three that like on first dates you
generally just split the chick split the check and.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
I and I I was like, who's paid for the beers?

Speaker 4 (18:54):
And they said, we split the tab And I was like,
oh nice, Does that mean you have to go home
and just take care of yourselves?

Speaker 1 (18:59):
And they started laughing, and then everybody around them started laughing.
I was like, huh, nice, it's a little crowd interaction
crowd and like it was. It was cool because it
was the first time that I ever like landed a
little crowd work little zinger towards someone. And I was like, oh,
that's nice because it also just like lights up the
crowd in that point, you know, like and so when
you're interacting, but in like a good way with the crowd.

(19:23):
As a host and sometimes even as a performer. It
just lights people up, like and a crazy crowd, like
at Unhinged. Some of those crowds were so loud and
raucous and people just yelling. But I did market it
as unhinged comedy, which is just like people yelling and
screaming and drinking too much. M Like, like I do

(19:49):
kind of like that kind of a show, Like I
do like a loud, boisterous show, and like.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Dave and so a dude too, Like it's it's kind
of the atmosphere that in a show is important to have,
like kind of like a.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Noisy not not loud like all the time, but just
like laughing hard, like kind of like rubbing shoulders like
you know, like you know comics who just still that
kind of a room just murder that type of mm hm.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Am I wrong, partially, Yeah, some comic some some comics
don't like a room like that.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
No, no, no, no, I'm not saying it's a free requisite
for being a comic. I think there's a lot of
comics who like theater.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Like rooms where people are just chilling and they come
into exactly.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
See like a very well metered and produced and written show.
I think they are almost two separate like activities. Like
one is like interactive and people are yelling and you're
like addressing it and stuff, and another one.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Is just yeah, I feel like, you know, as long
as as long as the crowd's on board with you know,
sometimes the crowd's not there for comedy and that that
could turn out bad for sure. But uh, but no,
I think it's it's hard to do, especially for newer comics,
to deal with a crowd like that, So I think

(21:30):
it's I definitely think it's good to have the opportunity
to perform in a room like that so you can
get used to it, because there's a lot of gigs
like that across the country that are just not a
comedy club setting where it's going to be really hard
to get the crowd, and it's good. It's definitely good
practice for that.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Well at a certain point, like unless you just crush
every bit that you do, the whole thing is getting
them to just think that it's hilarious. You know. It's
like it's not about necessarily how funny the joke is,
it's how well you can get the crowd to laugh
at it.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
That's your job is just to like ignite the room.
That's why people say it's killing because it's like your
stummach hurts so bad because you're laughing.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Like, I understand the history. I like comedy history. It's
it's cool.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Oh yeah, have you read a book called The Comedians?

Speaker 1 (22:26):
No, I haven't.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
It's I haven't vanished it yet. But here, let me
get it. I'll show it to you real quick. Don't leave, No,
I won't wow this book here phil.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
The Comedians.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah, it's so cool. It's like a history of stand
up comedy, like starting back in like Vaudeville days and
stuff like that, and then it goes to like the
radio era and then TV stuff like that. But it's
really cool. And uh, it's taken me ever forever to
get through it because I stop and like look up
all these people I've never heard of and like watch

(23:19):
videos on them and read different things about him. So,
but it's really cool. I think you'd like it if
you like a history of of comedy and stuff.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
The comedian will have to check that out.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah you should.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
An interesting thing that I just started is like the
The Beastie Boys book. It's a. It's an audiobook. I
don't even know his call, but it's it's just about
the beast Boys. I just started an audiobook about That's
not interesting, never mind, that's just a regular thing.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
I remember one one of one of the jokes I
I did in my history of doing jokes that bomb
the hardest, was about the Beastie Boys, and it was
what you want. It was when one of them died.

(24:15):
Which one died?

Speaker 1 (24:18):
I don't know one of those three. I don't even
know what their names are. Okay, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
So my joke was I can only do it that
day because he died that day, And I wrote the
joke that day and I tried it out. I was
I was doing a show and it was going pretty well,
and then I told this joke. I go so yeah.
I woke up and turned on the radio and the
Beastie Boys were on. I was like, hell, yeah, it's
gonna be a good day. And then they played another

(24:46):
Beastie Boys song. It's like, wow, spontaneous two for from
the Beastie Boys. It's gonna be a really good day.
And then they played a third Beastie Boys song. I
was like, gosh, she had mca must have died and
nobody e.

Speaker 12 (25:00):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
You should have said how is he doing?

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah he did.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Act like you're finding out from the crowd.

Speaker 7 (25:10):
Yeah, no, you're telling me he's dead. Yeah, that's what
you're telling me. Yeah that's great. That's that's really good,
pretending that the crowd is telling you.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
No, seriously, that's a tragedy. One of my favorite is
Norman Donald. That dude. Oh yeah, that is the best.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Like he is he is doing calming in real life.
That is so so funny. This closet and gay guy
a bit with like Larriking. It's the best.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
I'm not gay? Hy would you say that about me?

Speaker 3 (25:57):
I'm the best man? You know what you mean?

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Oh yeah, dude, I was grieving when he died.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, I've gotta appear somewhere. I've gotta a Norm t shirt.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah he was, Yeah, of course I know.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Okay, Well you said it like a like a way
where I thought or he could alive and you're just
finding out the podcast that he's dead. Indeed, what is
your favorite Norm McDonald's movie? Do you have a favorite.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Honestly, I didn't really care about his acting. I really
only cared about his stand up. I wouldn't really like
scripted stuff. I mean i've seen some of them. I
don't even think i've seen Dirty Work.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
I've just like watched him in podcasts like just be
so silly, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Dirty Work is hilarious.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
I'm sure I should see it. You should, I'm.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Sure, Yeah, I think you'd like it. Phil Dirty I
recreate I can recreate a scene from Dirty Work with
my ex girlfriend's cat, and Norm actually retweeted it.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
No way, yeah, nor your little bit.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah. I made a little video with there's a scene
from Dirty Work where this guy is talking and talking
and talking and then no Arm's just like, here's your
two dollars. So I recreated that with my ex girlfriend's
cat or the cat's just sitting there and then I'm like,
here's your two dollars.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Day. Yeah, that's that's very good, Kurt.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
That's pretty that Normal tweeted you. Yeah, it was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Norm saw something that you made. It said to all
his people. Yeah cool.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Like for like two or three seconds, Norm MacDonald knew
who I was.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
I wonder if you met him, if you were like, yo,
I made that video you I retiated, if he.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Would give up bought Norm. I'm that dude from.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
That Yeah remember that cat, here's your two dollars.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah, be up in Norm's face.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
I always loved that story about Bill Cosby and he
gives Bill Cosby his dad's fund.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's a perfect story. Oh, on account of
he died enormous so good. I wrote this one really
really really really long joke that was like a Norm
joke or just as a shitty ending mm hmm. And
the punchline is all that's a shitty opener, and then

(29:02):
just look at the crowd because it's my opening bit,
and it's like a minute and a half of just
bullshit story that doesn't matter, just for me to get
to the end and say, well that's a bad opener. Gotcha, motherfucker.

(29:23):
People get mad, they go.

Speaker 11 (29:26):
And I'd be like, gotcha, like you, like you just
had to sit around through a pointless story just for
me to make a little pun heh Yeah. Yeah, I
love I love mor McDonald and jokes that just wander,
They just wander.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Yeah. Yeah, I liked this joke about he's talking about
how you can just know anything just because of your phone.
Like someone's talking about I forget who's he talking about, Hey,
we heard about this guy, and he's like, yeah, well
I gotta go to the bathroom real quick. And he goes,

(30:02):
and the research is the guy for thirty minutes and
then he comes back. Yeah. The thing about that guy
is he a painter.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Dude, I've never heard that from that Norm joke.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Oh really, I forget it was. It might have been
about van Go or something, but yeah, pretty funny. I
think it was on the special where he's talking about
Hitler's dog.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, that guy's insane. Yeah, that guy really was. Just
he was so good, not just saying whatever the fucking word, dude,
when he said you must you must have down syndrome
on the Starter show, just like you don't have to
have down. It's like in his apology, to be so dumb,

(30:56):
you'd have to have down. That's my new thing down
and talking about damn. He's so he's just the wackiest.
Mm hm you just get away with anything.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Is he your favorite comic of all time?

Speaker 13 (31:12):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah, easily, yeah, easel.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, it's not, it's not. I don't even think there's
like anywhere near a contest. I think that the best
current is Shane Gillis. Yeah, I think the best alive.
I think it's Shane. There's some funny motherfuckers too. I
think Shane just is When he said Alabama Jones to

(31:36):
Nake Nick Saban, I was like, oh.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
You're doing yeah, yeah, perfect with all the it's funny.
The only time I really like s n L is
when it's hosted by a comedian. Yeah, like Shane Gillis
and Nate Bargotzi and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Dude is so good. Mm hm, that's a bad man,
Pobby right now. Like all of my aunts are like, oh, like,
we all want to go see Nate Bargozi And I
was like, oh, he's like the guy now he.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Came here a couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yeah, have you met him?

Speaker 3 (32:19):
I have not met him. I know some guys that
tour with him though, So I met him pretty much
shaking his hand.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
I agree. Yes, that's just true, true statement. That's right,
a guy who hung out, so I know.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, it's crazy how many comics are like selling out
arenas right now?

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Oh yeah, well that's the thing about Albuquerque, Like right
now Casadas is killing hyenas?

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Is it? Is it selling out like people are killing?

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Oh yeah, and.

Speaker 14 (33:01):
Is touching all over that it's just about time that
people start coming here because we're like, oh wow, like
those are some nice clothes and I can do maybe
this one, Like oh, I was actually booked out pretty farrible.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Like I know that you tour pretty consistently doing comedy.
It's really cool that you that's your life is that
you are a tour in comic like pretty much. Yeah,
most times.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
It's pretty sweet and it's even Yeah, it's even better
now that we have two clubs and I'm friends with
the owners of both of them, which works that nice
for me, you know, gives me some gives me some
work at home where I can you know, make some
money and perform for some good crowds and stuff open
for some big name comics. It's pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
I mean, yeah, that's that's really all the comedy business is.
Is like you get a crowd, you make a laugh,
you sell him drinks, everybody has a good time.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
It's it's not a difficult equation, which is like I
feel like there's so much room for Albuquerque to just
like boom with comedy if people just like made the
time to see like a good show, you know what
I mean, Like a really like Alex Benon talking about

(34:23):
how God chose him to be his stanup comic is
my favorite. It's my favorite when he does it in
a room full of people who don't give a fuck
about that he's like trying to tell him God chose
me because he really believes it. And that's why. That's
why it's my favorite. Bing is because he's telling the
crowd like he's like, God did choose me to do this,

(34:48):
and the crowd just does not care, and they don't
they don't know what's going on. Disoriented thing that Alex does.
It's very funny. That's why he's my That's why he
that's my favorite comic. The worst is actually my favorite.
Oh dude, when he got stuff about like the debt
ceiling and about punching girls that came on dates, he'll

(35:11):
just go on stage. Yeah, I looked up. This is
a real Alex joke that he did, just so that
you know this is true Alex joke.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Because I never know. I've never heard Alex tell a joke,
so I'm excited to hear this.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
I don't even know if it's a joke. I think
he might have also just been talking nonsense, but he said,
I looked up how much time I would get if
I punched a.

Speaker 11 (35:34):
Woman, because this girl left me on a date and
if I saw her, would it be worth that amount
of time.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Just to punch her?

Speaker 11 (35:45):
Said it was six months because like, I didn't do it,
I'm gonna tell her six.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Months to just punch that woman in the face.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
I was like, I don't feel like it would go
way different than than he thinks it would. I think
he would throw the punch, and he doesn't look like
he could throw a good punch. You feel like the
woman would dodge the punch and then tackle him and
beat the shit out of it. So then she ends
up in jail for six months.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
He just like, try to this pitch and she just owns.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
That's how I see him playing out.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yeah, I get to do thirty minutes in front of
Alex Binton. He booked me for that show off, Like, dude,
this is gonna be the best show of all time.
What you would do for? Yes, me opening for thirty
minutes and hosting technically for Alex Benton. So it's me
for thirty minutes and Alex.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
I'm gonna do a guest spot and do my worst jokes.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Yeah, hurt.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
It would be an arm It would be a true
honor me Alex on stage for ninety minutes. Is it's
a heinous act?

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Oh yeah, I bet the whole that's going to be there,
you'd have to be. Yeah. I bet Hyenas and siders
will probably cancel their shows that night.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
Because everyone in America will go to Alex Spenton and
Pillow American Colleague Show.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Vaganza.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yeah, and it's at Tingli Coliseum. Is that where it's at?

Speaker 1 (37:35):
I wish, dude, Kingley Colosseum can call a whole hell
of a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Mm hmm. Imagine bombing in front of that many people.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
For thirty minutes would be so so brutal.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
But if you if you were getting I mean, if
you sold that many tickets, like you're probably getting paid
in it, what tens of thousands of dollars to perform there,
mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Until people start asking for refunds.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
No, they can't, because as soon as you come in
the jokes or whatever, I decide that they are and
you pay me regardless.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Fucking bitch. Shut up? Where are you sitting in that seat? Okay,
you didn't you got the show dude, thirty minutes of
me talking before Alex Bendon is hainous. It is crazy,
It is crazy.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Where is it. It's at the Guild.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
It's at the Guild. Yeah, that's a one seventeen.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yeah. I like the Guild. Cool spot.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yeah, just like Market and just Phil Romero Alex Beenton live.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
It's kind of a tough for him to do stand
up in though, because it's so long.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
It's fun. I love. It's also high up. It's like
a very very high up stage, like you are looking
down at those people. Yea, it's a dude, it's a
really really fun fun room. Alex would dude, Alex.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
Would book me on it for all of his Guild
shows because I would just bring people.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
I would just tell people like, hey, I'm doing a show,
he should come, And Alex's like, that's enough for you
to get on on my shows if you bring some people, Dude,
you need the crowd. And I was like, I agree, yeah,
and so I would just do his room. I would
just be like at a party and just like walk
out and just like go do the get hold and
walk back. Dude. I love the dude. I love the Guild.
And so the fact that it's me and Alex at

(39:33):
the Guild is actually makes it that much more important
to me because like, that's, dude, the first comedy show
I was booked at.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
I told Zach a bait that I was like, dude,
this is my first show. Like that's pretty crazy. He
was like yeah, dude, and he's just like outside and
I was like, I don't know. I just think you're
pretty big comedian. I just want to tell you it's
my first show. That's pretty cool. And I like went
up and I wasn't like, honestly that funny, but I
thought some laughs.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
I s like I practiced some jokes and I like,
for that show, I brought a lot of people, and
he was like really excited with the turnout, Like I
did bring a ton of people to my first show
because it matters to me because I like, I went
out and I found it and I got it for
myself and like and then after that, I'll be like, yeah,

(40:20):
like you can be on all the shows, like if
you can bring that many people. I was like, I
can't bring that many people. But I'll always tell people
that I'm doing shows, and then they get what they.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Get when they go to on my shows. Dude, I
got booked for an independent movie off of one of
Alex Benton shows because I was like they I was
talking about retards and Stephen Hawking and I had a
joke about Stephen Hawking putting a room under his chair
and then he would be useful even.

Speaker 11 (40:45):
If he was stupid and Stephen Hackey, at least he
would vacuum the.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Floor, which I love that because, like, you know, there's
like some Stephen Hawckey type people who aren't smart to
just put a room under their chair. So at least
they're use fault for vacuum what's under them.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
That's pretty funny. Well, I was independent movie, Like did
you film it?

Speaker 4 (41:09):
Yeah, yeah, it's a It was shot on film, and
I was playing like a pretty much a stunt uh
just performer, like doing like a bunch of stunts and
like falling and getting the ship kicked out of me like.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
I was just doing.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
I was just doing very overdramatized stunts like getting kicked
and be like like it was a pretty cornball movie,
but it was.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Fun and I like dressed up and I was like
I have the check. This is this is one of
my favorite pieces of were bullshit. I like that. You
guys see in my house too.

Speaker 15 (42:00):
It's got Jesus in my house. Yes, I even paid
you five hundred bucks.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Nice for Yeah, And every time he's in town, he
just goes and he just wants to talk about like
poetry and stuff. He's like a real albumquerque stand up comicaws. Like,
it's funny that you think of me like that because
like my friends barely do you know, but like everyone
does always like like, oh it's still do stand up. Yeah,
dude's fun. You should come check out the show. It is, dude,

(42:33):
it is fun, like if nothing else, it is very
fun to do it.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Yeah, you know what's funny, phil Uh. The first time
I was ever in the Guild Theater was filming an
independent movie.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
So we both filmed an independent movie in the Guild
because that's where I filmed it. Also, yeah, I filmed
my independent movie in the Guild also, so me and
you have both filmed independent movies in the Guild. That's
a cool little pack.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
And the movie I filmed was actually screened at the
Guild once and that was kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Dude too, we'll both have a movie. Nice, that's very cool.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Oh yeah, I mean, that's funny because the guy, the
guy wrote me apart just based on my stand up
character in this movie, and then the movie ended up
being just my part with this girl pretty much. So
me and her part were only supposed to be like
a third of the movie. And I guess the other
actors weren't very good. I didn't think I was very

(43:35):
good either, but I was just playing myself, so I
guess it wasn't that bad. So we just turned our
part into the entire movie and we improvised a lot
of it and then it turned out pretty good though.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
That's pretty sweet.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Yeah, we had a screening at the comedy club too,
and we had like two hundred people show up. That
was pretty badass.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
I mean, two hundred to go to a promiti screaming
is very sick. I think that that's an incredible accomplishment. Like, dude,
if I had two hundred people on a screening for
something that I just like improvise and fucked around on,
I would be so pleased. I just feel so warm
in my heart. Yeah, watching watching that, Dude, that's awesome.

(44:21):
I didn't I didn't did that. I uh can I
can I tell you about a really stupid achievement in
my way of course.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
Okay, So there's this rap group called the Borderkip Boys,
and I was a part of it.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
And when I was in high school, me.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
And my friends put out this song and it got
like a thousand plays in a night, and then it
was like, no, like a thousand plays in.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Like a week. But then it just like continued to like.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
Get bigger and bigger, and like people all over like
the country I've talked to about, just like my part
in the book Boys, and we had a show that
sold out.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
And there was two hundred and I think like fifteen
or twenty people in this little and like there were
people outside who couldn't get in, and it was just
me rapping about like fucking fat bitches and like just
being like this the dumbest, dumbest high school hooligan. But
like in high school, I did sell out a place

(45:27):
with the Boord Good Boys and like rap about fucking
bat bitches on my sound cloud. You could you.

Speaker 12 (45:37):
Could cur at some point you should listen to that song,
because I do think it's it's a pretty ridiculously just
like meme song, Like it's.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
I feel like I've heard it before. No way, maybe
I I because I remember, you know, Alan Clark and
John Kuayar right, I feel like I clayd on there before.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
And did they know that. I don't know Alan, but
I know.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
John Okay, this is before you started doing stand ups.
So I don't know if I feel like Alan might
have played that on the podcast before because it kind
of sounds familiar. I could be wrong though, too. Could
have been another song singing about pork and fatties.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
No, it was probably that one. Yeah. Yeah, I wrapped
that song in front of two hundred people, which I
thought was pretty hilarious that I was a rapper rapping
about I think. I think one lyric in the song

(46:53):
that was actually not written by me was chubby want
to rub me rubing on my chubby? And I think
that he is very funny.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
That's clever. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah, when you're calling a woman and you're we chuvy.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Yeah, I think that's silly.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
I think it's wird. Is it cool?

Speaker 3 (47:13):
It is?

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (47:14):
There was also another apartment said Buddha tele a tubby Damn.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
It's like a Buddha and a tele Atubby are both
extremely fat, but they're but just like peaceful and like
silly and fucking boot is the funny joke.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
I think, did you guys win like Albuquerque's version of
the Grammy or anything for that dude?

Speaker 1 (47:38):
If if I was, if I want Albuquerque's version of
a Grammy for boys and that would be the best
thing possible, I would like my life pomptions would be
getting end there.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
That would been cool. Yes, the award, you.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Know what I mean. Now, both of those people are
just like one of finance and like another person is
in the military, and I'm a teacher, and he just
like he used to wrap about.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
So funny and I I, uh, me and my friends
used to make prank calls all the time when we're younger.
And now one of our friends that was in that
group is a judge.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
That's funny.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Funny to picture him as a judge after he make
phone calls pretending it was a mad scientist and stuff.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
That he's just like telling people that they have to
go to jail.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Yeah, that's pretty awesome, like you murdered.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Go to jail before.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
He was like, yeah, yeah, I'm excited for you to
do that show at the guild. I actually I performed
I performed guilt one time when they had uh they
were playing a double feature of comedy movies, and the
owner of the guild asked me if I would come

(49:06):
and perform and then introduce the movies. And I thought
that was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Yeah, Keith is very cool. Keith is very cool.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
He's awesome. They played The King of Comedy with Robert
de Niro was one of the movies. We've seen that one,
The King of Comedy.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
No, I've never seen the movie.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
You should see it. It was my it was actually
it was my first time seeing it was at the Guild.
And then they played I think it was just called Lenny.
It was a movie based on Lenny Bruce, where Dustin
Hoffman played Lenny Bruce. We've seen that one, Lenny Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
No, I've never seen that and Lenny.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Yeah. So they were playing those back to back and
they he asked me if I had come down, and
so I did like a ten minute set and then
I'd introduced the movie and then we have like a
little intermission, and I did another ten minute set and
introduced the next movie. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Yeah, that's a that's a really cool game.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Yeah, that's fun. And I got to see the movies
for free and everything. But yeah, those are great movies.
The King of Comedy. It might be streaming somewhere right now,
but it's a it's a good one. Robert de Niro
playing this weird, weird ass comedian kind of reminds me

(50:30):
of Alex Benton.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Oh yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Yeah, that's life story.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Yeah, and it's Martin Scorsese. Yeah, what the it's a
it's a Scorsese maybe about a weird comedian.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Yeah, interesting, Yeah, well that's that's slowly they don't want
to watch that and then there Yeah, okay, nice, I
will watch this nice.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Yeah. Yeah, I was playing about the Guild again, the
Guild that it's Lenny Lenny Bruce. Oh, Lenny Larry.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Mm hmmm mm hmmm dust All.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
H yeah. He does an awesome job, is Lenny Bruce.
Even though in this book here the Comedians, it says
that Lenny Bruce was a hack? Have you heard that?
Do you know Lenny Bruce was a hack?

Speaker 1 (51:42):
What does what does that mean? What is what does
the word mean?

Speaker 3 (51:46):
In that He's to steal jokes? Oh yeah yeah, and
he got away with it. I guess Kelly died.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Yeah, you can get away with anything until you get caught.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Well, I mean he got caught, but he's still was successful.
So kind of like Carlos Mencia, I guess where people know,
but they don't give a shit. They still like watching
you perform stolen material.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Dude. I mean I've seen like jokes end up in
different places and like the al Querque saying, like one
person will telling joy one thing, and then one person
will have a very similar premise like yeah, something can
take but it's way similar apprentice, Like, dude, if you're
consuming that much state up comedy, like there has to
be similar. And then there's also just like topical shit
that's like you gotta make jokes about it now.

Speaker 16 (52:42):
You know.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Like I feel like during COVID there was so much
COVID humor, like just like across the globe because you
had to. Like it was just like and and and
That's one really cool thing I like about comedy is
just like the immediacy of it.

Speaker 16 (52:59):
You know, Like I told too that we're going to
talk about how jd Vance killed the Pope, which is
my favorite new just idea that he went over.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
There with his fucking jd Vance self and just killed him.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Didn't you want to come on the podcast to announce
that you're running for pope? I or if you decided
not to, can you run for pope?

Speaker 1 (53:26):
I think that you have to be like granted post
shit by like a bunch of cardinals or something like.
They all get into a room and they like Mark McGuire, Yes,
exactly like Mark McGuire.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
That's all I know about religion, Mark McGuire, Ozzie Smith.
I know those guys.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
You know those Those are good dudes, those are important guys. Yeah.
Can I tell you a secret bit that I've been
doing with like Olfen Nadine.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Sure, no, I don't.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
I don't. I don't think the I don't think I
should take it. I'll do it. I'll do it on stage.
I'll do it this Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Good, make sure you film it. We want to see it.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Okay, I will.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Just started the nine eleven drokes the other day.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
I did nine eleven jokes, just eleven jokes about the
number eleven. I did nine eleven jokes. The eleven's run
a weird go just like two tattlers. That's strage. Uh.

Speaker 11 (54:44):
Yeah, nine eleven was bad. Uh, you don't be worse
ten eleven. You know, just do it again in October.
Why some other shit's knock good? I did nine eleven jokes.
That's stupid.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
It is stupid. Phil. I can edit parts out of
this podcast. Just let me know if you want any
of that done.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
You don't think that nine eleven jokes are funny? I do, Yeah,
I did. I just I think that a good joke
about anything is funny.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
And and so if you're trying to make a good
joke and you fumble on.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Some topic like okay, we're they're a kid, I think
that that has an excuse for something. If you legitimately
were joking, it is a good excuse. Is that you
are just kidding? Oh yeah, in almost all instances.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
What do you think or do you think that that's defensible?
At a quarter of loss A?

Speaker 3 (55:55):
I was just pretty sure. Yeah.

Speaker 13 (55:57):
I know a good judge, Yeah, the one the frank
the brank call judge to call back to the prank
call judge.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
I know and judge and used to prey cold people
with me. Now he just sends them to prison. That fucked. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Another cool thing about him he was He was in
a band called the Disco chickens. They're chickens, the disco chickens,
the disco chickens. Yeah, I judge. Yeah, I recorded a
song with him when I was a teenager. It's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
What did you play?

Speaker 3 (56:40):
I didn't play anything back then, but I was skipping
school because they were recording and I wanted to go
hang out. And then my mom showed up, she got
out of work early, some of her friends and stuff,
and uh, what are you doing here? And I was like, oh, uh,
hanging out. And then my buddy was like, oh, I

(57:02):
asked him to come singing, singing a song with us,
and then she's like, well, I want to hear it.
So I had to sing a song with him.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
You know what I eventually want to do? Kurt?

Speaker 3 (57:14):
What? Phil? I?

Speaker 1 (57:17):
I eventually would like to do comedy in another state?
How does that? How does one do that?

Speaker 3 (57:26):
You pick a state and then figure it out from there,
Like where do you want to go?

Speaker 1 (57:34):
I think it would be cool to do Colorado, like
corn Springs or like Denver.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
That's super easy. You go to coloradocomedy dot com. There's
a list of shows, open mics, all kinds of stuff.
You figure out when you're gonna be there. You just
hit up, you find out if there's an open mic,
see what the sign up deal is, and then you
just show up. Or you can even email them ahead

(58:02):
of time, say you're coming in from out of town.
That way you a lot of times they'll make sure
you get a spot for sure.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
How how does how do you go from doing comedy
casually to just booking yourself shows in North Carolina and
like not just like meeting.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
You are.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Meeting cool comics, but like you know, working with them
and all the same shows and like courts the homing.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
You know, how do you because because like I know
that there's different tiers to this, Like there's like the
fucking Shaine Gillis's and Thompsons in the world. There's the
use of the world. There's the Alex Bendons in the world.
And they're all obviously like the Jerry Seinfeld is.

Speaker 17 (58:53):
In a completely different market than like Kevin hart is,
but they also share some of the same market. But
they also looked a lot of different you know, a
lot of different voices.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
For me, it was like, uh, so I started out
at a comedy club called Laughs Comedy Club. Yeah, so
I started getting pretty good, like a couple of years
in and then that's when I started hosting there Nice.
So once I started hosting, I started getting a lot better,

(59:28):
like just mostly because we didn't have a ton of
open mics back then, So hosting the entire week at
the comedy club was so we'd start out Tuesday, we'd
have a show at a casino in Espanola, and then
Wednesday through Sunday we're performing at Laughs. So we had
eight shows every week you would host, so I would

(59:51):
get that much better every week just because I was
doing eight shows Tuesday through Sunday, you know what I mean.
So if I'm working on a joke on Tuesday, like Sunday,
by Sunday night, I've got it figured out, you know.
So that is almost time I started. I started hosting
quite a bit, and then you know, after hosting for

(01:00:13):
a year or so, that's when I really started feeling
a little confident about how funny I was. So then
then I started asking like guys that I would open for,
you know, hey, do you think I'm funny enough to
do the clubs you're working at, you know, as a host,
And you know, if they would say yes, and I'd
be like, well, you matter if I use your name
as a reference or whatever. Like for example, like the

(01:00:36):
guy the first guy I ever opened for was a
guy named Jason Russell, who's still one of my best
friends right now, and he just happened to be going
to like a club in Little Rock the following week.
So I would say, hey, do you mind taking my
tape and handed it to the club owner and you'd buy,
yeah for sure. And then so he took my tape

(01:00:56):
to Little Rock. That guy owns three clubs at the time,
I think or four. And then so I called him
like six months later and said, hey, did you get
a chance to watch my tape? Blah blah blah, And
he's like, yeah, I'll start booking you at my clubs.
So then I get into those four clubs, start working
with other comics, say hey, can I open for you

(01:01:19):
over at this club? And I don't know, just like
that mostly networking, you know, when yeah, because I feel
like I was kind of like not like outgrowing the
scene here really, but like I had really done a
lot here and I want to out Kurt Kirk.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Can I interrupt you there? For like literally thirty seconds?

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
Yeah, I was Yeah, for sure, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
So Albuquerque has two no bernal Leo has a comedy club,
and Albuquerque has a comedy club. But there are a
lot of comics right now who are putting on show
and the shows are getting better because more stage time,
and they're just getting better.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
And so like that like the draft capital of like
going to mics and finding new comics and being like,
what you do is fucking funny. Keep doing that. Ship.
I see what you're writing there. I see what you're
writing there. I see what you're writing there. Is getting
all the comics who are not getting booked anywhere, scrapying
them to get off.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
They're fucking beaten ass of just going to fucking open
mics and throwing them on stages.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
It just they're like, oh, this is my first show.
I'm going to invite a bunch of people, dude. People
love love that it's like their first show, like Rest
in Peace, Monty big Part, but like one of the
first shows that she did was for.

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
Unhinged, and that that show has put so many comics
on a stage where they like what pretty decent audience
and like people ask me, dude, do you this is
a really fun thing. Chuck Parker asked me to headline
at Unhage and I said, can I do your like
road Warrior show for like tennants?

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
He said, I don't swap time, and I don't think
you're funny, so I'm not gonna book you. And I
handlined it. But there are enough chuck that's funny, is
I really? I was like, I don't really need to
do the Road Warrior Show, you know, like there's other
shows to do, you know, and like, yeah, I feel
like the people who have wanted to put me on

(01:03:27):
their shows have and the people who you know, think
that I'm a fucking idiot don't, And that's cool. I don't.
I don't need to be everybody's favorite ever ever, ever ever.
I don't think that I ever will be. I've never
had the personality for it. But like it's really it's
really cool to just like see people like you who

(01:03:49):
really did the exact grassroots comic thing where you just
talk to people and be funny and work on your craft.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
And well you have to because nobody, nobody's gonna come
to you and be like, hey, we want to put
you perform here, like you got to do it yourself,
you know what I mean? Like so many. I feel
like a lot of comics just sit around and wait
for people to book them. And that's not the way
to do it. I mean, it does happen, like I
like with local shows. For me, now it happens, but

(01:04:22):
like shit, if I like, you know, it's not gonna
happen at clubs like like in Texas and Colorado and
stuff like that. Like you know, you got to put
in the work. You got to see look up what
clubs you want to do and like reach out to them,
you know, and uh, you know, keep kicking ass in
your local scene and you know, keep getting better and
stuff like that. And then uh but yeah, do the work.

(01:04:43):
And like people always hit me up there like hey,
how do you get in this club? This club? It's
like fucking go to their website, there's an email address.
Most of the clubs are like that, you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Know, if you have a good That's what I I
was telling Savannah and Dave.

Speaker 18 (01:05:01):
So me, Savannah and Dave have a little group chat
and we like are starting to like produce together and
like think about different venues to put shows.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Together, like because if you think about it, there's a
lot of venue space in Albuquerque and there's a lot
of like empty stages and even tho ones that aren't empty,
like you can just get put on the books to
have another one, and like on Hinds literally had me
do a monthly show and I did make money the

(01:05:33):
whole time. I never lost money on a show ever.
The first show that I did.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
Was with you headlining, Like I threw you on my
first show because I was like, kurt Is the dog,
kurt Is the dude who got me my first laugh.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
And I literally like the way I got that is
is I was at a birthday party and I was like,
have you thought about doing comedy here? I'm drunk, dude,
and they were like yeah, like do you know. I
was like, yeah, I.

Speaker 19 (01:06:03):
Am that dude, Like I can throw a sick fucking
comedy show and like I could.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Probably do it monthly. And they were like, okay, well
let's get that information. And then they like put it
up on their bar and they like said, like Tommedy
Knight first event ever, Like I threw their first event
ever that was a Tommy Knight because I was just
drunk and full of my own ego enough to just
be like I can fucking do that shit and I

(01:06:27):
hosted it, and it was pretty fun. You and Royle
both pulled me aside and like, yo, never say their
name before, never say their name before the end. Always
save it for this.

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
This next comedian, he's got a jiner. Motherfucking full hark.
That's pretty crazy. You know, whatever you do, you describe.
He said, it's gonna be on this. It's gonna be
on this.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Ladies and gentlemen been making us laugh all damn fucking decade.
Old ass kurb Fletcher, hand the mic off. You know, dude,
my cousin got up yesterday and was just doing all
the wrong ship dude. You know Nathan's about it. M hmm, Yeah,
he was, dude. He bombed so hard. Yeah, what's funny?

(01:07:15):
Dude in front of a good crowd. Dude, Like everybody
was like kind of murdering because we had a good
I mean, we put together the show. Everybody was murdered.
It's a pot that just fucking flow off.

Speaker 11 (01:07:27):
I was like, yo, dog, you can get out of here,
like I can close the show out. And I just
got on the stage and I was just like, yeah,
shoot out. That dude who would just not stop yelling.
He was screaming to the mic, was like coping the mic.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
And screaming into it.

Speaker 11 (01:07:43):
I was like, yo, dog, like we're in a casual
function right now. I told him multiple times, like yo.
Corey was like, why.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Were you talking during my son? I was like, yo, dude,
I was just getting Zapota out of here so he
could close out the show kindly.

Speaker 11 (01:07:57):
He wouldn't yell at you guys like finding it ohly
ship dude.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Yeah, he bought hard. It was funny. It was really funny. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
That so it's fun to watch your friends and stuff bomb.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Oh dude, it's the best your cousins that that's my cousin.
He's he's related to me from my mom's side, And.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Yeah that's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Yeah, yeah, I love working with that dude. We told
each other that we would never pay each other for
anything we did, but we would try to get each
other cool stage time, and I was like, Yo, now
that you hosted my ship, I need to host your
ship over there. Yea, what's going on? I think hosting
is so cool. Hosting I think is one of the

(01:08:45):
coolest comby jobs.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
Yeah. I used to suck really bad at it when
I first started, because that was so low energy. But
it's like one of those things that you have to
you have to learn and if you're good at it,
you can get a lot of gigs out of it.
So definitely that's.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Very good hosts.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
He's great.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
He is one of the most entertaining hosts. Dude. When
I started comedy and I saw Bucky for the person
was like, oh ship, this dude's got it and he
acts like he's got it, and he does like.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
He owns that room, like nobody should be speaking over
him and everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Knows it like it's he's a pretty Yeah, he's pretty
impressive host. I would I would say in New Mexico.
I'll say he's easily top top three hosts in New Mexico.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's uh, that's funny. When I started out,
we had an open MiCT laughs, and the manager of
the club would be like, who wants to host? And
nobody would volunteer ever, and uh, I think John Clayar
was probably one of the only ones that would ever

(01:09:55):
volunteer to host. And the manager would be like, well,
I'm going to get any gigs if you don't volunteer
to host, you know, so I but yeah, I didn't
like hosting, but I got good at it. I guess
not good at it but better. But yeah, hosting sucks sometimes.

(01:10:18):
I always thought you were a good host though. I
remember doing your gig at the coffee coffee house or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Yeah, you talked me up on it actually, because I
had never done a hosting gig until I booked myself
to be the host, because I was like, I actually
thought about it a very similar way that you thought
about it, which is just like the amount of stage time.

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
Like if I have a hosting gig, I get the
experience of going back up on the mic, you know
what I mean, Like that's the scariest.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Part is going back up on the mink. So I'm
like hosts just kind of neutralized that. They're just like, hey,
what's up, how's the function going?

Speaker 5 (01:10:55):
Give another whoa too?

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
You know, like you know the sound check so you're
not screaming through it, or if you do, you put
the mic the other way, Like you learn how you
learn mic control, you are imposture. You learn three two
one go, Like when it's your show and you're opening
up the crowd every single time, you are giving yourself
the dog shit. But it's the best dogshit it is.

(01:11:22):
It is easily the best dogshit because you continue to
work up that courage to just go up on the mic,
go up on the mic, go up on the mic,
and you can't pause, especially when someone kills. Being a
host and learning how to graciously watch someone kill and
be like, yes, that's my dog.

Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
You know what I mean to be, Like, let's go
keep it going, like the lorn is well, goo to
my friend, blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
You know, like it's so far like just keeping a
crowd up, that's all you gotta do. Just keep the
crowd moving and shaking. And and I really feel like
that like Unhinged is a place where I did that.
It just like I have to say, like getting busy
with the rest of my life, like honestly did kill
a lot of like momentum for me because I feel

(01:12:08):
like I really was like when I did like Santa
Fe shows, and like I was just like kind of
traveling around doing doing comedy, even like going to real Rancho.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
It's like it's cool to be booked for like a
show in real Rancho, like like hearing different.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
People's show concepts and like different people who like again
like first person that booked them and paid them to
do comedy in Albuquerque was me because I was just like, yo,
I'll give you a fair share. I would always tell them, Yo,
this is your percent, and they would be like, okay,
I don't even learn algebra, and I was like, no,
this is important to you because if you bring people,

(01:12:48):
we all get a hire percent. And and so like dude,
like Matthew Pettitt, I don't know where that guy is,
but he brought so many fucking people to Unhitched, so
like just packed it. And I was like, Matthew Pey
gets it. And he headlined and dude did like the
funnest like forty minutes of just like jokes and stories

(01:13:08):
and just being fucking just chatting with his fucking pals.
Like dude, it was the one dude, Holly Bird did
a mother show for the month of May. It was
it was a mother's Day show and she just murdered
yeah for like fucking like thirty forty people. And I
was dying laughing, and.

Speaker 20 (01:13:29):
There was like footage of me just like losing my
shit at like fucking Holly's motherhood bits. Like she's like
telling funny fucking stories and I'm just like, dude, this
is this is calmedy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
He's just like, you get the people who you think
are fucking hilarious, and then the people who aren't that funny,
you put them first so you can do they fuck up.

Speaker 11 (01:13:50):
They fuck up for like ten minutes all right later
that's hey, wasn't that funny. I've had Alex benon open
He was like, well, you're the first professional person who
booked me on show, and I was.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Like, good, thank you, thanks for doing my show.

Speaker 11 (01:14:03):
Like he ran the light by like three minutes when
I just let him.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Yeah, it's like, you know, he hasn't done a show.
It's like it was also when like I didn't learn
I didn't know the mechanics of it where I was
like having shows and it was still still like bright
out and I was like, no, comedy is better at dark,
and you just like make the room dark and spotlight
the person who's yeah, like the mechanics of the room

(01:14:32):
are so fucking important, like and and learning that from
just like professionals in Albuquerque, Like I honestly didn't do
a lot of dry heat shows. I didn't I didn't
get booked and I didn't like asked to get booked.
I didn't do a ton of their like mins and stuff,
but like they have the most professional shows, like There
Don't Tell stuff just looked good, like it just listened yah,

(01:14:55):
and like dry.

Speaker 6 (01:14:57):
Heat as like an institution, Like they put on so
many sold out shows, Like they have Mark Norman come
in just like after his show just to do a little.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Pop upset and a little mom mom and mom. It's
not even a mom and pop chop. It's a mom
and mom chop. It's a mo and mom chop. It's
pretty cool. Dude, Like I always did well. And the
thing is is I would I would watch dude. I
would go to there a Don't Tell shows and be
like all right, what are they doing better than me?

(01:15:28):
And just really spoken so bad. Oh I love being
like ooh, Sarah and Kelly are using a camera guy
And and then I saw I saw them and I'm like, oh,
that's a nice camera. Oh there's a setup over here.
Like so I was like, ooh, the filming is really important.
So now like I know that, like if you have

(01:15:48):
good audio and if you have good footage and you
have a good show, that's worth gold in today's society.
The footage of it is crucial and so like people
just like what's up.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
Sorry, I was gonna say, you need to check out
the show. Hyenas. Their showroom is perfect for comedy because
it it seats like one sixty so it's not huge,
but like there's not a bad seat in the house.
The ceilings are perfect, the lighting's perfect. It's just it's awesome.
It's an awesome place to do a show, awesome place

(01:16:25):
to see a show. But you should take out a
show there.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
You just did a show with the aj Dalion, right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Yeah, Hyenas, that's the show with me.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
Yeah, yeah, I forgot about the higherarchy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
I was booked on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
He was not, Yeah he was. I think he was
the host, right, No, he was just doing guest sets.
Guest sets. Ye see that that whole structure. It's so cool. Yeah,
you were booked and he was doing against it. I
like that got a guest.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
Yeah, it was great. Ad did great. I like a
j a lot. He's a hard working guy.

Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
Not only as a hard working guy, he's also so friendly. Bro, Like, yeah,
d is very cool to like talk to and to
work with, and like he.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
Makes like watch watch how he watch how he handles himself.
That's what you should be doing. He's he's hustling man.
He got himself those guest spots he hit up, he
hit up the headliner, he drove him around Albuquerque and stuff.
That's how he's able to get guest spots and stuff
like that and ship like that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
You know that is Yeah, he is someone that I absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
Did look up to in the people.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
This is a really this is a really funny thing.
I'm not gonna name anyone, but people will be like, oh,
how did you do that? Dude? You know Savannah Holder,
Oh yeah, fish lips, yeah uh she uh she got
uh a.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
Cassoda is booking for just like having a really good
set at a show. Like the booker just like went
to dry Heat looking for talent, found Savannah and booked
her at Cassadas.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
And I was like, it is like that. And I
performed at the same show and the people who I
like who were there to watch me, said that I
did pretty good. And then I, you know, I crushed
at times and like it was a little bit low,
but like I also like played around with the crowd,
like I felt loose. They said it was cool that
I like seemed loose, and I was like, dude, I

(01:18:41):
was I was pumped getting in front of a crowd
like that sort of a room like that. Ooh, like
it's beautiful and and like Zach introduced me, it's pretty
cool to have a you know, Zach cast me that
because you know, he's like one of the better and
you know, more acclaimed stand up comics in Alquerque. You know,

(01:19:02):
like he is also hustling his ass off, Like I
just I think it's just cool to have like this
whole system that's based on how funny are you? That's it,
That's all it really is, and like how well can
you do the business? Also, because like if you're hilarious
and you don't know how to work it properly, like

(01:19:26):
you'll never get paid.

Speaker 21 (01:19:27):
Yeah, and if you're not funny and you're great at
the comedy business, then you can get You can be
an amazing producer because you can find talent and say, hey,
do you want to do a show, and then you
never have to even get up.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
You can just fucking kick it with the mi tie
be like what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:19:44):
Don't touch my fucking sound. You can just say don't
touch my fucking sound. I love that as a producer,
I told the potter that he was holding the mic
differently and that he was like speaking loudly into it
because I did the mic.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
I told him, don't funckel my sound. I did the
mic check and I was like check check check, like
and I did it with all the sound people.

Speaker 4 (01:20:04):
And then he got up there and started screaming, Now
this show is not gonna be a here fucking screaming.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
Well, yes, the fuck yeah he was. He was yelling
at he was yelling fuck you Phil at me while
I was sitting down.

Speaker 19 (01:20:21):
Just like as a producer, it was very funny. I'm
just probably laughing, fuck your one up there, sould I
help you? Though?

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
Well, Phil, we got to wrap this up. It's already
an hour and twenty minutes and I usually keep it
at an hour. But you wouldn't shut up and kept
it going. But uh, I'm just kidding. I see. I
enjoyed this a lot, and I hope you did too.
You have a you don't have a website or anything.
Where can people follow you on social media? Phil?

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
You can follow tell me at Philly js Phil on Instagram.
That's pretty much just it. Yeah, I put my gigs
on there. Recently, I have been just finding a little
bit more solace producing with Dave and Savannah because we

(01:21:22):
just like I'll talk to you about later later.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Yeah, all right, thanks Phil, Bye, see you buddy.

Speaker 22 (01:21:33):
I had a life house stars, respecting the community. Suddenly
it was all taken away. I think I finally realized
just how low I'd sunk one day when I was
at my daughter's soccer game.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
She lives with her mom, and.

Speaker 22 (01:21:50):
I was standing on the sidelines and a cop came
up and asked me to move along. That's when he
hit me, I'm not even a cute.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Here's your two dollars

Speaker 4 (01:22:01):
Say at everything that st