Episode 788 - Baseball Savant Early Stantouts - In This League Fantasy Baseball

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the in This League Fantasy Podcast network, In
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dot com. Now here's your host, Bogman and the Welsh.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Friends, are welcome into the in This League Fantasy Peaseball podcast.
It's Bogman and the Welsh and we are here for
you breaking down the finality of the first like major week.
I think nobody agrees if it's like week one or
week two. I kind of assume this is week two,
So we're talking about kind of the endings of week two,
and today on the episode, we're gonna be going through

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latest news and notes injuries, breaking down is r is,
but are any of these hitters bad enough to try
to go and buy low on or to potentially sell
out of. We're gonna look at some big pitching performances,
especially the guys that had us a little bit worried
to start pitchers or weekend streamers both in in tow.

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We'll do the Saturday Sunday pictures and maybe a quick
little look on what might be next week. Pretty much
everything we can try to prep you for for the week.
Apologies though we did say at one point this episode
we were going to be taking listener questions. It's going
to be next week. It is going to be the
next week's episode where we will have a post on
Patreon on Wednesday. You will be given information on where

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to send your voicemail to and you can drop questions
in there. And the end of the show we will
dedicate to our listeners. But screw you for this show.
We don't want to talk to you, we don't want
to hear from you. We care about nothing. We've got
a great guest for next week. Screw the listeners. Bogs right,
You've always told me that.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I've never told you that. That's not my thing at all.
That's a Welsh thing. I guess I've never heard of
it before.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Big, I'm a man of the people out a streaming
and doing lots of shows. You're always like, hey, listen,
the listeners are nothing. You don't have to worry about them.
You're just doing a show for us, don't even you
don't have to like them?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
What are we doing here? What?

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I'm after the bus a little bit because I forgot
to put a post out to get people to send in.
I'm just saying, you're.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I just want to show you something that got sent
to me today in an email.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Oh is this a badge?

Speaker 3 (02:10):
That must be nice. I didn't get this bad It
looks like something that was done in paint. It's the
top twenty twenty four, top ten MLB accuracy. It looks
like you made this in MS paint.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
I did not make it. It was sent to me today.
Do you have one? I'm just asking, well.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
You don't have to like the people. I think more
so than Mike Mayer is top three on that and
he doesn't like anybody. So I don't think you're doing
yourself any favors whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
That's what I say. Welsh Man of the people, always
has been, always will be, never argued with anyone ever.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
So I did a live stream today with you guys.
By the way, remind you I got two of the
Welsh streams each week. I did one on Thursday. I
think I'm going to continue. I'm just trying to ask
and I might pull around for the second one, but
you want to hang out mondays, I'm kind of forgetting
if I did two pm Eastern to three pm Eastern.

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But we're gonna have one on Monday. I'll be posting
it on Patreon and tweeting about it. I did one
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dot Com. Jerkson Profar is a big fat cheater, Bogman,
say there he is. He's a phony.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
It's a big fat phony.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Keep going.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
That's all I got, everybody, Here's a phony. Here's a phony.
He doesn't even play the piano. You guys, I just
like that voice.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
I do like that voice.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
It's just a goofy voice that you're doing pro.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Far speaking through the back part of your dolls.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
We're not gonna go too far into it. We're kind
of catching up a little bit. But obviously he was suspended.
He's a big fat cheater. He's out platoon situation, most
likely with Kelnick and dey La Cruz. For right now,
Alex Radugo is brought up once Akunya's back. I would
imagine Verdugo takes over in an everyday role and then

(05:21):
one of those other outfielders either kicks rocks or sticks around.
Profar is a cut and he's a big fat cheater.
How convenient though, best friends with Tatis Junior and spent
an off season training program with mister Tatis. No correlation,
of course, there's nothing, no reason we would do our

(05:44):
voices like this and insinuate. We're not insinuating anything.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Oh, of course not. No, there's no way that he
would have gotten this. Let someone he knows personally and
closely and his friends with.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Do you think you would be like if you were
just really bad at something and then it's just like, hey,
you could cheat, and then you're gonna make tons of money.
You could do something bad for this, but you're gonna
make all the money in the world, and then when
you get caught for doing the thing, there's really no repercussion.
You get to keep all your money, you might get
more contracts and everyone will forget. You think you would

(06:17):
be like, I'm gonna do that because I want millions
when you like it. That's even really bad at something
for ten years, like you're just like a really average
crappy at this thing, and then all of a sudden
you could illegally do.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
So some magic genie appears definitely not something illegal. The
magic genie says you can get really good for nothing
at all. Yeah, I look, it's a hard thing to
turn down, like you're saying. You know, everyone says no,
I wouldn't do that until they're you know, put in

(06:50):
that scenario. So I don't know. I would hope that
I wouldn't, but I might. It wouldn't be about then.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
I get sixty Mine would be about the money. If
I can get sixty million dollars after I've just been mediocre.
I mean, maybe that's what I need to do. It
is there like a fantasy analyst start. I didn't get
a top ten badge, so maybe I need to start
taking some enhancement.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Research is the only enhancement you can do that.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
I don't do tons of research inside, but I just
couldn't get the twenty best catchers ranked properly. So I
didn't get the top ten, but you know, congraduate I did. Yeah,
I know you're dead, you're really really good. You can
just I'll give you my rankings next time. You know,
that's a good idea.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
What a list?

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Mike may or Greg Greg Smith in Embogman at the
top is when I think of baseball, That's what I
think of as I think of these guys. Pisses me
off that you're dead that too, and then you're also
like or like college and NFL. And I'm smart and I'm.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Good at everything. I hate this. I'm also the best
at being humble.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
So Braves are not good at anything. The Braves have
still not won a game as we are recording this. Dude,
it's almost my birthday. Are the Braves gonna win a game?
By the time I turned forty two? I turned Jackie Robinson.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
It would be a great story if they didn't. That'll
probably win tomorrow. But it's like they ever Yeah, well
for us too, it's frustrating because Atlanta won't win. The
Dodgers won't lose, the Potters won't lose. Like the Dbacks
are playing pretty well and they're way behind the uh
Dogers in the Potters already.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Twenty seven and seven or twenty six and seven going
into today, the division was UH and it was like
just the Rockies are holding them down. But yeah, I
mean the Dodgers, they continue to dominate the Braves.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Not good.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Not to like.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Resex four and two and three games back already.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
So we're gonna talk about some diamondbacks in here, not
to recycle some stuff I have talked about, but a
lot of Braves questions from people. You know, Hey, you're
worried about all the braves. Who's the buy back?

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Up?

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Up?

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Up?

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (08:57):
My biggest buyback is Matt Olsen. I don't know if
that's even still really viable because he had a couple
of hit game the other day, but very very small
sample size stuff. He's hitting the crap out of the ball.
He's barreling the crap out of the ball.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
His XBA is.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Like ninety points or seventy points higher than it currently is.
He's walking, he's striking like he's doing all this stuff.
He's getting babit to death. I'm good. I want to
buy him metals and if it's still there. He is
hitting sub two hundred right now and doesn't have a homer,
so that might provide for it. I want to buy him.
I don't quite buy into Michael Harris is going to
get put into a better leverage situation. I'm fine with

(09:33):
Riley whatever, Albi's whatever. If people are selling them low,
I'm into it. Michael Harrison's still not like sold on,
but he's going to be put in a much better situation.
Would you be wanting to buy Michael Harris. Let's say
you only get a little discount ninety five cents on
the dollar, would you be buying him?

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:47):
I think so. I mean, I'm I'm a believer Michael Harris.
So in slow starts, be damned. There's plenty of play.
I mean, what was Jordan was hitting sixty three going
into yesterday, So there's plenty of good players. I think
it's too early to panic on anybody. So if you're
getting a discount on pretty much anybody in that Braves
lineup because they are not going to be a bad

(10:09):
team the entire season, then yeah, I think I would.
I would be buying.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, it's a big thing. It's any opportunities for like
buying on freak outs, even to my Zach Gallon stuff.
We'll talk about him in a little bit, but like
he was my number one most worry but it still
wasn't like a selloff, Like you know what, I'm saying, like,
I've got to have samples. Hitters are a little different
because you're seeing them every day, but you need a

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couple of weeks for stabilization. You gotta get like four
starts in a pitcher to have like a really good idea,
because you can have one amazing and then you can
have one bad and then one amazing, and it's like
what level do you go on? So we still have
a lot of balance on all of it. So for
the four hundredth time to reiterate to everybody, they just
don't panic. If you want to cut Tolia, you want

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to cut Mason Win, you want to cut.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
These quartererline guys, those are fine.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
You could do those if you want. But like I
still think it's not enough of a sample size. I'm
not interested in being done with Luis Garcia versus Auto Lopez.
As an example, someone in the live stream actually asked
me about Luis Garcia because he's platooning right now, and
I know that Frank Frank had tweeted like he is

(11:24):
in a full on platoon, and I don't know if
he meant like, yeah, guys, this is done. Maybe he did,
but right now, early on he's in a platoon. He's
not playing against lefties right now. But I kind of
don't think that's going to be the season thing because
I had people asking me, hey, man, Garcia kind of
sucks and he's platooned, now, would you get rid of him?

(11:46):
It's like, well no, And here's a couple of things
uncovered on it. First off, one of the biggest most
positives about Luis Garcia moving forward is that he does
not have a career lag against lefties. He hit two
fifty nine against lefties last year. I don't think he
like I think there was a little bit of platoon
in there, but he had over one hundred at bats

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and he hit two fifty nine. Twenty twenty three, he
hit two sixty one and he had over one hundred
at bats. So again that's not like full full time.
But I don't think he's gonna get Jock Peterson. Here's
the other thing. Sucks twenty eighteen, Like, sure, I see
all of that, But this year, in very small sample,
he's barreling the crap out of the ball. He's hitting

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it as hard as he's ever hit it. He's got
expected batting average that is over one hundred points higher.
It's into the two hundreds. His wOBA does stink, but
every other metric is either online, in line or pretty good.
He's barreling the ball per plate appearance more, he's kind
of getting in the ball in the air. But guess what,
oggs bab it to death early on he has a

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one to fifty four Babbob's one hundred and fifty over
one hundred and fifty plus points lower than last year.
All of this stuff is impossible because it's like five
games and I'm citing it. But at the same point,
if you're going to site, he's hitting one eighteen and
he sat two games versus lefties, and he's now in
a full platoon probably going to site back that Hey,
every metric is still pretty favorable to him. He historically

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hits lefties and he's got a one to fifty BABBA.
I think Louis Garcia has a chance to bounce back
as a super contact hitter getting put in the prime
spot in the order. I'm not done with Louis Garcia,
and that's why I don't want to panic about really
anybody quite yet understanding. I also don't want to miss
opportunities when really great guys are on the wire, so
I think you have to be really discerning about those

(13:35):
moves that you make instead of being like.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Hey, should I cut this too. That's just caught Louis.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Garcia, and it's like, no, I would try to hold
on right now. It's been five games.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
He was the one guy that you said where I
was like, maybe not. But I understand the platoon side
and the panic about it. But he is the heavy
side of the platoon. And as you mentioned, it's not
so much about him not hitting lefties. He's hit lefties
in his career. It's about al Medrosario killing lefties. He's
two ninety seven in his career against lefties. Last season
he two ninety four against lefties, but he still doesn't

(14:04):
have power. He had one homer last year against lefties.
He still doesn't have power against lefties. So it's you know,
if Razario fails, Garcia goes right back into his full
time gig. So I think it's more about that than
it is about Garcia. Early season struggles amplituding. I understand
are panicky and they deserve that panic. His value is

(14:25):
definitely lowered than where it was coming into the season here,
but I'm with you. I'm not panicking quite yet. Let's
see how long this sticks.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
It's all varying degrees. It's varying degrees. And what does
that come to? You know, who are like, is Luis
Garcia worth going and buying low? Oh maybe not like
I see it, but maybet Olson if he's hitting under
two hundred, no homers, and people like, my god, the
braves suck, Like yeah, it would be that's the So
the levels of like how good the player is to

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buying up that would be the play. And it's just
about figuring out, you know, everybody that wants to pick
up Oh my god, Gavin Sheets, Oh my god, Jack Lighter,
And it's like, but at the expense of what, And
that's the big question that you have to have. Maybe
you want to cut literally every single player for is
Ivan Herrera. Ivan Herrera with a three homer game, very

(15:17):
popular sleeper catcher, hitting almost five hundred at this point,
quieting the worries of Pedro paass potentially getting in All
the stuff looks great, launch angles, high barrels are there,
he's hitting the ball hard, nothing kind of out of
the sorts. Just everything looks really good right now the
Cardinal's pitching, Sunny Gray got lit up a little bit,

(15:39):
but Ivan Herrera is a big hot spot. Somebody had
asked this question on leading off, but then let's turn
it into kind of a different thing. Once you answer it,
they're like, would you cut Yan your Diaz for Ivan Herrera?
And your answer is what, No, I don't think so, No,
you're not cutting him at that level. But what it

(16:01):
then opens up to is, Okay, where do you think
Ivan Herrera should be? Fantasy Pro's rest of season catching
rank currently has him at fifteen, So you can tell
me a name or somebody that you might put above him,
because the top five Wim contraras Adlee cal Salvi, Wilson Contreras,
we're not doing anything with him. Yanni or is six,

(16:22):
We're not doing anything with him. I don't think you
should do anything with Will Smith at seven, But then
you get Will Smith at seven, Langy's at eight, Ramuta
at nine, Ohapi at ten, Austin Wells at eleven, Moreno,
Stevenson's at thirteen, Jeffers, and then Herrera. Where do you
think Herrera is a Where where would you put him?
Ohpy just hit a grand slam by the way the
other day. Romuto stole two.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Bases today probably, so I would put Wells at eight,
ahead of Langoliers. I think because he's hitting the lead off,
then I would probably go Langoliers and then o'hapi and
then Ivan Herrera. So I would have him right there
that ten.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Twelve, I think that. No, I think that if you
went eight, and I think you'd have him at eleven
or twelve.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yond okay, so eleven or twelve, so a number one
catcher in a twelve team league. So yeah, but there's
not many guys because he had a three home run
game that I would cut him over that I have
already rostered for you know, less than a week here.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
And I agree with the top ten twenty twenty four
accuracy rankers Scott Bagman here that I think he's a
top twelve. I think he's a top twelve catcher. I
could justify maybe he's above Langueliers, Ramuto's kind of a
give and take or Hoppy just hit that big Grand
Slam and like I just I think it's a top twelve.
But I would have Wells above a lot of those guys.
So that's where Herrera most likely belongs big contracts around baseball.

(17:43):
Just be quick with it. Garrett Crochet signs a huge deal.
And I mean it was more rhetorical, like we'll be
quick with it, not you. Garrett Crochet signs a big deal.
Jackson Merrill signed a deal that can be upwards to
two hundred million dollars. Christian Campbell, who by the way,
was seven fifty to one or seven and a half
to one for Rookie of the Year odds two days ago.

(18:05):
He was four and a half. He is under two
to one right now for rookie year because he had
a second homer the day he's smashing. He signed a
deal and as Joepiezapia decided this wasn't important. On leading
off on Thursday, Katel Marte also signed a deal locked
up with the Diamabacks. Everybody else was important to him,
but not could tell Marte signing a deal that probably
leaves him with the Diamondbacks for the rest of his

(18:25):
career and likely one of the greatest Diamondbacks. Yeah, that's
going to go down in history, one of the greatest
trades the Diamondbacks ever.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Did they stupid?

Speaker 3 (18:33):
They traded stupid? Gene Segura after two hundred hits, they
got his ass out of there and they liked and Ktel.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I like Gene, I like Gene two. But Kattel has
undoubtedly been amazing, and like you said, specifically, if he
played to this level, he's going to be leading the
d Backs in a lot of categories and it's going
to be him and Goldie one two.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
You know, I think is going to go down. Is
a is a better uh diamond Back than Goldie.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Uh, we'll see. I mean I think that longer, it's
on the table for sure.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
So he's been gone for like five years, like six years,
like Goldie played here, what ten years?

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, but Goldie is still the franchise leader and like everything,
then I.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Think Detel is going to walk away with it. But
it's not important to talk about it because you.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Know, yeah, he's just all he has to do is
stay healthy. So yeah, I mean, I I love that contract.
I think was great. I thought that the Padres got
kind of a steal on Merril. I think you know,
the way specifically, the way he's starting already to you know,
if if he has another big year that was going
to cost him way more. Crochet is interesting. I mean
it gives you an ace a long term here can

(19:37):
he can he last? But can any pitcher lasts? Also
is a big question, so interesting money. Someone in the
group me room brought up, like, why are these happening now?
I said, I guess. My guess would be gms are
making so many roster moves at the end of spring training,
they're you know, uh, dealing with all those cuts and
all those things at the end that this is probably

(19:57):
the week where they shift their focus to extending these guys.
I guess that's you have any info on that, or
I don't have any info.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
My speculation would be you probably have like much better
ideas of what your finances look like for the season.
You have salary cap like ideas. You see what flexibility
you have, and then you start to look at like,
what was it cal Rawley's contract extension. He's making a
million dollars this year, you know, But so they did that,
they gave themselves flexibility in doing the contract extension that

(20:26):
he's like a million bucks in year one, and then
it starts, you know, going up and up. So I
think it's sometimes it's it's if they do these contracts,
they can make like this year cheap if they've got
any type of cap issues. So I'm not really sure
there's anything crazy to it. Then it is like you
have no arbitrary things to deal with with Christian Campbell.
That's done. They wanted to extend. Marrill actually wasn't interested

(20:49):
in it in some period of time. Cruche it was
really important to him. The cat Tell one kind of
came out of nowhere. To be honest with you, that
one was just like.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
I mean, I saw the report that Gambo was. Gambo
said they were working on it, and then two hours
later it was done.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Let's tell you what we're going to talk about. Actually,
shout out to Mike Deportis. Mike Deportis posted it a
day before. Gambo had nothing on it. Deportis did it
roughly a day before. And he's the one, if you
paid attention that he posted about Profar. Yeah, he was
the Profar guy. He posted a day before anybody had
the Kotel Marte thing. But yeah, I don't know. I

(21:24):
will say, very interesting, we're going to break him down.
But nothing on Gallon and Gallon's a free agent right now,
and after this last performance, the Diamondbacks I think are
getting all their guys up. I don't know if they'll
be able to get him. Some very very interesting things
that have popped up. Speaking of the diamonbacks, I'm just
going to do this one right here since we were talking.
But AJ Puck has gotten the last two saves. The

(21:45):
last one wasn't super clean, but I don't want to
ding him because well, okay, I know you're doing that.
But he gave up a homer, but it was a
home It was homer in one ballpark in all of
Major League Baseball. Anthony Volpi raped Austin Wells's homer in
the first game, literally twenty nine ballparks. That was not
a homer, this exact same spot that Vulpi hit it.

(22:08):
So Puck gave up a three run homer. Two of
them were charged to I think Ryan Thompson he got one,
and then he cleaned out the inning for the save.
On paper, I think it looks messier than maybe it
quite was. But I guess the point here is he's
gotten the last two save opportunities, and I still think
you might see it justin Martinez or two. But I

(22:28):
don't know. Do you have a feeling if the question
has been answered, that it is AJ Puck. That's who
I've been preaching all season long, that probably is the
guy I want. But I've also acknowledged that both dudes
will probably get some saves.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
I'll tell you, I think you're probably right. Again I'm wrong.
I had Justin Martinez in this role. I kind of thought,
let's use AJ Puck as the fireman and let's have
Martinez come in and the first save opportunity. I thought
I was still right because the eighth inning was right,
he's the ninth inning was. I was like, okay, that's

(23:01):
pretty easy, right, But then he got this opportunity last
night as well, a little shaky, as you said, you know,
probably worse on paper than it was. Watching live made
me white knuckle a little bit. I was like, you don't.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Want him to give that up. But when you when
you think of the context, and it's like torpedo bat,
he pushes it. It barely scraped over the wall, like
that's a flyball out in every other ball. So it's
not something where they're gonna be like, here's an example.
I don't even know if you had this on here.
I know we don't, but this is good to talk
about There's been a lot to be made about the

(23:38):
Philly situation. Yesterday, closer Monkey, I didn't see the game,
but yesterday closer Monkey put out Hey, Alvarado was warming
up in the eighth and then they padded runs and
I was like, oh, look at this. Multiple people like okay,
well boy, Romano was there, and I was like, okay,
that's fine. Today Romano comes in the eighth, Alvarado gets

(23:59):
the opportunity. That says something, Yeah, that's where it was going.
That says something. It wasn't like Romano was available. Romano eighth.
Alvarado gets the ninth, but Alvarado was shaky. He got
it was two men on in scoring position with no outs.
Then he gives up the run, but.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
He got out of it.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
He gave up one run, he got out of that
stupid stuff throwing one oh one. So like that one
looked messier in person, but he did get the save.
Hucks didn't to me even look messy in person if
you take away the Diamondbacks fandom. So it's like, is
Alvarado the new closer. I'm not sure that justified anything,

(24:38):
but I don't think anything Puck did is taking that away.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
I think what we're seeing just the shift in general
is the closer role is kind of going away. You know,
there's still going to be a closer, but I think
it's gonna be fluid for a lot of these teams.
I think that with the Diamondbacks, if you have three
rities coming up that don't hit fastball as well, I
think Martinez is the guy.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
I agree with you also because Romano did come in
in the eighth and it was the nine one and
two batter, so that is an important thing to think
about that. And then then maybe they saw that like
high leveragy type of But I mean again, I will
say it was the Rockies, you know, so it's like,
what are you really playing around with it? But to
your point, if the eighth inning is Lefty Strong, Puck
will come in. As we're recording this Dineback game starts

(25:25):
in like an hour or so, I would expect you
probably wouldn't see Puck on a day like that.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
I would think, right, yeah, I would think like tester
Martinez would get the save.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
So like if if the Dinebacks were to win and
he got the save, I'm not sure that tells you anything.
I think that just says like he is that other guy.
I kind of lean into Puck. And what's your take
real quick on the Alvarado versus Romano thing. Do you
think it is more like a higher leverage why they
put Romano there and Alvarado is not going to be
a big save?

Speaker 2 (25:53):
I did, Yeah, I mean I I think no, I
mean no, I think I think that's probably going to
go back and forth a little bit as well. But
I do think Romano is the primary. I think with
the Diamondbacks that Puck is the primary. But I do
think Justin Martinez is going to get saves. I think
we're gonna see a lot of that kind of you
know what we talked about with Tanner Scott in the
last episode and how they have been going back and forth, so.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
They went back to him, by the way, I think
yesterday it was they went right back to Scott.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Right. I think you're going to have a kind of
a primary in a secondary. It's kind of the way
running backs are going in the NFL, right, where you
have your main guy, your lead back, and your change
of pace back. I think that's what you're gonna get
out of a lot of these closes scenarios, And these
are three that were already seeing it.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah, and the other one I think we mentioned. I
think we mentioned it was David Bednar. David Bednar was
optioned for It's a triple A. He's out and he went.
They went with Dennis Santana, And that was my speculation
off a Holderman and Dennis Santana. It was pretty clean.
He did walk one, but and he didn't have really

(26:59):
great fastball command, but it was close enough and the
slider was really good, and I think he gets the
next one.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
So hopefully you you.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Hit on that. Luke Jackson continues to get saves. Bender
was in for the Marlins and Conley was in for
was it the Rockies or the Tigers. I thought Conley
was a Tiger.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Oh yeah, I probably just os yeah, because.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
You brought Rockies there.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
And oh and then the other one, Devall. Deval has
had multiple saves in there. So is there any in
that group that you're really interested in? Deval getting the saves?
Conley with the Tigers, Bender, Dennis Santana's or one that
would be more of a priority for you.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
I mean, I think Bender probably because do'val only got
the saves because Walker had pitched the previous days and
he had back type, so like I'm Dovall has been
the closer before, so he could easily get that rollback
at some point. And I think that's kind of the
point of, Hey, when Walker's not available, we're gonna put
dough Ball in here to see if he can do
it again, because it was not only you know, the ability,

(27:57):
but it's also the attitude that was a big issue
with the ball last season, So let's see if he's
grown up right. So I think that's a big part
of it. But I'd still think Walker is the primary guy.
I just think he had pitched before and he had
the back tightness, so I'm not so worried about the ball,
but I do Bender is interesting. Kinley's interesting, but there,
you know, do you have a spot. I'm not dropping

(28:20):
a good starter for most of these guys, you know
so well.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
It might be another relief pitcher or something like that.
I would actually say Tommy Canley is probably my number
one out of this group, just because, like dude, bow
Brisky came in like the sixth inning the other day,
so that this might be a thing.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Didn't last very long, did it.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
No, there might be opportunity there, I would say it's him,
and then Dennis Santana. My only worry about Dennis Santana
with the Pirates is like whenever bed presumably Bennar gets
the stuff figured out, I think he comes back up
and I think he would get that closer roll back
in it, either right away or in a decent amount
of time. So I mean, unless Dennis Santan, it just
becomes like Felix Patista, like for me, you know, just

(29:02):
lights out, just never lets it go or whatever, like
that's a possibility. But those would be the two closers
I would probably have the most.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
And these are all scenarios to pay attention to outside
of you know, like the d Backs, where for these
teams that are kind of playing musical chairs that closer,
a lot of them could at some point trade for somebody.
I don't think the Dodgers are the d Backs, but
those are the teams that, you know, the Tigers, if
they're good, let's fix the back end if it's not working,

(29:31):
and we have to play musical chairs. Same thing with
the rest of these teams. I don't know who out
of those teams would be good, but if they are,
you know, I think a move could be made. That's
why I was never really sold on anybody for Texas, right.
I think the Rangers of a really good team. I
think they're gonna win that division, and I think they're
gonna end up trading for somebody to close games. Something
I do too.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
You know, David Robertson is still available out there, and
he was with this team last year, but I don't know.
They weirdly like Luke Jackson. And that's why I'm i
as much as I hate it, like, I think Luke
Jackson someone you got to pay attention to right now,
just because he's getting for a big time winning team.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. He is for sure for now. But
you know, if he gets shaky and they don't like
the rest of what they have back there, I think
that's when you make a move. So, you know, the
Angels have Kenley Janssen, what do they need Kenley Jansen for?
That's like a perfect guy. You pick him up and
you trade him to a contender for you know, a
prospect at some point, and Kenley's almost definitely getting moved.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
I feel like that's a good call. That's lots of
volatility in the closer market. I think you got to
be kind of quick with it, but hopefully you hit,
you know, hopefully you got my boy under his munos
and then you get you know, somebody else's what's.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
That munas a little shaky the other day too, I.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Locked it down. Then it's early.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
It's it's early for everybody. Baby, We're fine, Yah.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
It is early. Speaking of the Rangers, though, ivaldi first
complete game shutout already just and I think it was
a Maddox style. It was under one hundred pitches, just
absolutely efficient and dominant. And he did it again, so
I think it was the Reds. It was Carson Spears
because I had bet the Rangers run line minus one
point five and they shut them out one to nothing.
But Ivaldi proving really really just like solid, cheap sp option.

(31:13):
And you know, I had this thought because I was
I was watching something or whatever. Evaldi came up when
they were talking about the complete game shutout and oh
they were talking about the Rangers. I don't know if
this is radio is listening to or I was listening
to some YouTube video, but the Rangers came up and
it was kind of like, you know, hey, this team,
and I just had this thought of like we've been

(31:34):
talking about the Red Sox and the Yankees that should
acquire Sandal Contra. The Texas Rangers should be calling the
Marlins tomorrow. They've actually just recently worked out that. They
just worked out the Burger deal. They've got prospects. You
don't give up. You're not gonna want to give up.
You're not gonna want to go and give up like
Sebastian Walcott. And then maybe there's too big of a

(31:55):
gap otherwise, but maybe they consider dealing one of the
young rocker or lighter, or maybe they can just move
throughout like a little bit lower in the system. They
got a bunch of really young, interesting players. Pablo Guerrier,
I don't know if I'm the.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Rene they signed Patrick Korman. What are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (32:12):
I am trying to go get Sandy al Contra because
you got a winnable division, you got a monster offense
you built with Jake Berger. You need bullpen help. But
what's the biggest thing you need? You need another start
to Grahm's injury history worries you. You got Evaldi, you
kind of lost your rotational depth. The Rangers should go
and get Sandy al Contra. I think maybe more than any.

(32:35):
I think obviously like the Yankees would make sense, but
that's why the Rangers should go and do it.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
If I'm that Rangers team.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
I'm doing that move tomorrow once he becomes available. But
that's just something I wanted to throw out because I
feel like we've only talked about the Al East, it's Orioles,
it's Yankees, and it's Red Sox. So's the only teams
that can acquire him. I think it should be the Rangers.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, I don't. I like this. I think maybe the
Rangers trepidation is, you know, he's coming off surgery still
and we also have to Grom coming back, and you know, kind.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Of intrepidation by the way, it might just be like
the much cost so much or they might have already asked, right,
just like not doing anything.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
I don't sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right. I
just do you know. I was looking back. I have
Aldi had eight or more strikeouts on like six times
last season. He had eight in his first start of
nine in his complete game shutout.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
So he's beast.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, he looks really good to start. But I like
this idea and to Texas, I.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
Want to sell by the way.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
I mean, yeah, two amazing starts. He's your leading cy
young vote getter. I'm sure right now, but yes, uh,
a little too earlate to.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Actually no, a l it's Garrett Crochet. He's the number one.
I just looked recently. I was looking at was like
judging the al Crochet was cy young. Christian Campbell is
like just so far beyond a oh yeah no.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
I was just talking like if they voted.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah yeah, no, yeah, yeah, but I'd probably sell on
him all right. Injuries and then we're gonna look at
some savant changes, and we're gonna look at the you know,
worry worry meter type of things. Not to steal CBS's thing,
but like the guys that you worry about other by
lows and some of those pitching performances. Injuries. Though Gunner
was supposed to be back today, he's gonna be back

(34:21):
money on enough. They just give him the day off today,
so he will be back with the Orioles on Friday.
Zach Nedo started up a rehab assignment on Tuesday. Hit
a Homer today. I believe it was on Thursday, so
I would imagine it's not much more time. If Monday,
I would expect, you know, maybe sooner, but he should
be back soon. Flavor Torres put on the tinda io

(34:43):
with that oblique strain. Those damn dirty o bleak damn.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
You dirty old bleaks. It's never gonna be ten days
either for the obleaque. It's gonna be much longer, I
feel like. So hopefully it's quick and easy, and that's
why they did it early in the season, because you
don't have to have him. It's not crunch time yet.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
But I hate it, agreed, Ronaldo Lopez, you must hate this.
Art undergoes arthroscopic surgery on his shoulder. A couple of
months is the best case scenario. Maybe the season.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
I know this is one of your boys.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, and you have to be done. This is the
danger of pitching man. And you know, maybe there's a
lesson in here. A guy pops off out of nowhere,
it throws more innings and he's used to and has
surgery the next year. Don't like it, but there's no
use in I'm assuming your il stashes are limited to

(35:40):
somewhere around five and if that's the case, just get
rid of him.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
I just I don't even think so, you know what,
maybe ship him to the Braves. Maybe Hurston wald Rep
Can be the centerpiece of a trade. They've got other
minor league hitters, not scho Alvarez is major league ready
Sandy for Sandy Braves. The yeah, I mean you'd have
to pay more, but that's another thing. Like they could
probably overpay if they want it. But yeah, it is

(36:05):
a division and good point.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Sean Manaia shut down for another two weeks after a
PRP injection. He had some soreness or whatever. That's not good.
That's he was already coming in injured. You probably didn't
spend any big capital. Probably gonna be back this year.
But what if it doesn't respond? What if he has
another setback like this is this is not good. So

(36:27):
you could stash, but I'm not sure. If you have
no eel, there's no chance and you probably don't have
enough injuries that like, it's not that it's an issue,
but I would not not super super interested in mine.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Should we just make the like I don't like threshold things.
I don't like speaking in absolutes, but should it just
be like, listen, if a picture has anything going on
with the arm or upper body, oblique whatever, anything where
it could be elbow, shoulder, thoracic outlet. Like, let's just
not draft those guys go into the season and you know,

(37:02):
if it's Alexis Diaz, if it's a hamstring whatever, if
it's your leg, then fine, which is like fifty percent
of Lodolo's. But he's the only guy that you know
misses a bunch of time because of leg stuff. So
I don't know. I just feel like anything with the arm,
let's ignore these guys.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
I don't disagree Colton cows Aer placed on the il
after fracturing. I believe it was his thumb.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
We just have fractured stuff. But I think it's his thumb.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
I think he's got some stuff.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
And fractured left, his whole left, his fractice.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
His whole left. Kerstott, speaking of Lefty, hit a nice
double today too. He's gonna get some more playing time.
That's fantastic for him. Might be a nice deep league
pick up. Freddie Freeman pulled a Welsh I think Bogman
would call it. He just slipped at home in the
bathtub hour and he's out until Friday. Piece Apia did

(37:50):
like AI art of it? Were you around last year
when he did the like New York mets Lasagna thing,
and all their hands were like melting into the Freeman's
was like the bottom of the shower was like sucking
him in.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
It's just like, I don't A.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
I A. I can do some stuff pretty great, but
I don't know why some of those photos he was
like and then his shirt melded into his skin.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
It was really freaky.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
And that was Joe trying to be like, isn't it funny?
Here's ai art of him slipping.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I was like, dude, this is like it's like the
disturbing garbage pail kids art that he used to have,
like like, probably shouldn't be seen this as a kid,
but it's on a trading card. That's funny you say that.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
I remember being really weirded out as a kid by garbage,
like those kids that are like, oh god, this is
so cool and gross, and I was just like, this
is wiring me a little different. I don't want to
see this. And now I'm like.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
They have the garbage pail like baseball player cards.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
I'm like, who's are cool?

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Who's a super sweet?

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Jack Lder left his Wednesday start with a blister issue.
A piece of PA has used that as the after
saying Jack Lighter is garbage and the worst picture and
base ball and is just a NEPO baby. He has
used the blisters the reason not.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Ah blister God rich Hill, Rich Hill, Jack Lightder saying
have you seen him in the same room together? I'm
asking dude, Richell his dad. Though, yeah, Richill's like forty
four something, Chill might be able to be his granddad.
I mean Richill was old at the end like the
last five years of his.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Dude, rich Hill feels so so old. But he's like
two years older than us.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah, it feels baseball ancient.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah, but he just no. But I'm saying he feels
so old. Like someone posted this thing, Remember Justin Verlander.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Is older Rich Hill or Jesse Chavs.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
You're yeah, you're older than Justin Verlander. Remember I'm younger.
Someone posted can you believe that Tim Linscombe is still
younger than Jim Justin Verlander? And I was like, is
that real?

Speaker 4 (39:47):
That's sad?

Speaker 2 (39:48):
You know what I hate is that Jesse chauve As
is younger than both of us.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Is he really?

Speaker 2 (39:53):
He has he's forty one and he's August twenty first
of eighty.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Oh, damn it, damn it. Yeah, he's like almost exactly
four or five months, because I'm I'm the twenty second.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Hey, rich Richell is older than bother. He's forty five.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
Hey, you old bastard, You old bitch, you're so old?

Speaker 2 (40:09):
What's the five year plan? Don't die?

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Gross? But he could, he's not. You could be like
our good friend, all right. Alexis Dia is going to
begin a rehab assignment on Friday, so probably not gonna matter.
Any of those stupid amilias begone shairs I've had out there.
Brian Bao is gonna make at least one more start
on Sunday, Toby Harris starting rehab assignment next week, and
Woodruff through a simulated game on Tuesday. So there's some
brewers gonna need that rotational help. So there's some stuff

(40:35):
around baseball. Hopefully they get you going. Let's take a break.
When we come back, we're going to take a look
at the Baseball Savant leader board, only spend a little
bit of time on that, take a look at what
the twenty twenty five leaders are looking like, what updates
we actually do have, and then we are going to
be doing a little would you buy or sell these
bad starts and some pitching breakdowns of some guys that

(40:57):
either had some big worries like Zach Gallon or guys
who were insane like McKenzie Gore, and what that second
start ended up looking like. So don't go anywhere more
in this league. Right after this, it's in this league.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
No one asks you anything ever, So.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Who in this league?

Speaker 4 (41:15):
Why don't you take a letter?

Speaker 3 (41:18):
All right, let's take a look at Baseball Savant changes
for twenty twenty five. The twenty twenty five board is updated. Boy,
we love Baseball Savant to just nerd out on look
at colors, schemes, and numbers, and it's especially sexy, you know,
five or six games into the season, when everything looks
absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
This is exactly how it's going to finish.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
No changes, right, Ben Rice will have an almost thirty
percent barrel per plate appearance. Everybody knows that, and we'll
have seventy five percent hard hit rates from Aaron Judge.
So the caveat to this is we're going to just
take a look at the very very early, one week
into the season Baseball Savant leaderboards. What we should know
is this is probably super irresponsible because we need time.

(42:06):
You're better to look at this at the end of
the month, but we're getting one week and we will
do another version of this, I think at the start
of the next month, when you have proper sample sizes,
that is better. But what is interesting about the process
is to start it and start to take a look
to see if we can identify some players that can
hold onto these. So we're going to look at a
couple different categories on baseball Savant definitely only focusing on

(42:28):
hitting because there's a couple of things still missing. We're
missing really the year over year changes, which would be
really great for us for pitching to look at, like
v LO changes that stuff. The year over year data
has not updated there, So this is why we're going
to hone in on just the hitting side. So we're
going to start barrel's per plate appearance is kind of interesting.
So this is obviously the barrel percentage rate a guy

(42:52):
is going to have, and this is per plate appearance.
It speaks for itself. I live and love barrel percentage.
I like to pair it with hard hit percentage at
the end of the day, but guys that are barreling
the ball hard are going to tap into incredible results.
But this leaderboard is wildly crazy right now. Number one,
we have one and two or both the Yankees. Ben

(43:13):
Rice leads the league currently twenty eight point six percent
barrel rate ridiculous. I mean launch angle is in there,
twenty six percent hard hit swing percentage. It's all crazy.
Number two Aaron Judge with twenty seven point three percent.
He's got a little bit more game action in there,
but you know it's no joke. Ben Rice has been

(43:33):
so secretly good if he were to get no Platoon
regular playing time. I mean, he's putting up more than
average max ev. His average TV is good, Like he's
doing the stuff that you want out of like a
very serviceable first basement. So I think at deeper leagues
he is someone I would monitor that he might not
stabilize too much bogs because he's not going to play

(43:55):
like every single day, and that might give him the
opportunity to really tell almost like a Kerry Carpenter or
something like that, like a platoon player that really dominates.
And I'm into those guys. But two Yankees on there,
any thoughts, I'm Ben Rice here.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, it is my actually my first pickup of the
season in a sixteen man was Ben Rice because I
need to see I real bad, so added him looking good.
But I think, like you said, you know, platoon player
not going to get a full swarm in of bat
bats very daily specific most likely.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yeah, I mean the problem is you got Goldie Bellinger
can play there. If Goldie were too we've iRED some
backflare ups and he's probably gonna miss some time. By
the way, one of those guys you know, swing gets
longer and stuff. If Goldie were to go down, Ben
Rice might move into like a must pick up territory
based on some of this. So I think this is
when you put a pen into watch to see as

(44:48):
he stabilized. What does stabilization look like to him? You know,
he's not going to have this ridiculous barrel percentage barrel
per played appearance is usually like thirteen fourteen percent to stabilizes. Like,
can you do the twenty twenty four just so people
can see real quick on here, I'm sure heard from
a video side. So the leader for twenty twenty four,

(45:09):
you know it ends up being what does that number
go to? I want to say it's like forty yeah,
fourteen I was right, so fourteen Aaron Judge, So like
you have a half stabilization in there. But look at
those names Judge, Otani Soto, Bobby wit Corey, Seeger, Like
you can see where Beryl's per plate appearance can tell
us like a little bit of a story. So going
back to twenty twenty five, if Goldie were to miss
some time, Ben Rice would right now be like a

(45:32):
highlighted guy of like wow, opportunity would be incredible for him.
Some other guys in the top ten. You had Baita
at number three.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
He's getting some good playing time tapping into hard hit.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yeah yeah, Bomb's already right here.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Yeah yeah. But like you know, average EV is really
really low, so there's some luck in there. Loganol Happy
had that big Grand Slam. He's at twenty five, pretty
decent hard hit numbers. Johannio swore Itz, by the way,
he is at twenty four. He's got a sixty eight
percent hard hit rate, a twenty six point two hard
hit swing percentage right now, and he's already put up.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Some great evs.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Is everything to love about Yohannio, And everything's off to
a good start. Stabilization will be important, but I wouldn't
be surprised if he's floating around these areas.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
I heard Poohles talking about him yesterday on an I'll
Be network and he said, it's been since the middle
of last season when he made the swing adjustment, and
he has just kept it going to start this season.
So he can be a little streaky. We know that,
and obviously the streak is hot right now, so hopefully

(46:37):
he stays up here and we get, you know, like
a Brent Rookers season out of him.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
It's like the Butler thing though, like Lawrence Butler made
the swing change. I guess he's a little bit to
start this year, but then it's a carryover. It's like,
these are really good signs he's going to absolutely stabilize.
But I guess what I take out of it is like, look,
he's getting the ball in the air. Twenty degree launch
angle right now, you know over one eleven max ev
and one we are going to take a look at.

(47:03):
Maybe even we shouldn't, but we will just for funzies
is fifty EV fifty. So it's like the the average
of the top fifty percentile of your hardest hit balls.
What that looks like when you get over one hundred,
you're going nuts. Everything's gonna look stupid right now. But
you know, Hanniol's at one oh seven, you know, I mean,
he's at the tippy top.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
So it's really really good.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Ivan Herrera, that's one that we were talking about before.
You know, he's barreln have a living crap out of
the ball. Twenty three point five percent barrel rate, hard
hit rates quite a bit lower than a lot of
these other guys, So that's something to you know, when
you're paying attention to sustainability, he's not tapping into it
as much right now. Pete Alonzo, Dulas Garcia, Elie de
la Cruz, and then Hunter Goodman. That's kind of the

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thing you're looking at with these is like, who are
these weird dudes that are popping off right now? Hunter
Goodman twenty percent barrel plate appearance rate, over fifty percent
hard to hit rate right now, averaging almost ninety three
on those per hits. Is eve fifty is high launch
angle's crazy. All of that's going to be goofy after

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a week, we know that. But it's also getting dh
opportunities when he's not getting a spot at a catcher
there is another dude. This one might be a little
bit different than Ben Rice, and that like he's getting
some opportunity right now, so there might be something there
for especially not even hitting in Colorado yet. If I say, yeah,
you're looking for a bat hunter Goodman in a little
bit deeper, probably like fifteen team leagues, I think he

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might be an option of someone to slap on the roster,
even if you've got another catcher.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
I mean, two great hitting ballparks he's been too, right
Tampa Bay and Philly, but no games in Colorado yet,
and he's already crushing. So I'm with you, good Ad
right now.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
The eleven through twenty, just a couple just thrown out here.
Kyle Tucker's been great. Jordan Westburg here's kind of a
you know, I love his hot start. There is a
good confirmation in here. He's kind of doing everything. His
swing to hard hit percentage at nineteen point five isn't
super hard, but you know, he's at almost one ten already.
He's getting lots of barrels. Matt Olsen struggling his ass off,
but as mentioned, the barrels are there. He's hitting the

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ball hard. He's hard hit rate sixty four percent about
twenty percent of the time on his swings. But he's
got a super low babbit and batting average, so it's
like when he clicks, that underlying stuff is really popping
him off. That's why I like him as a buy.
Tatista's on there, springer stop at Brandon Law real quick.
A lot of people have been poking around. Someone in

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a chat was like, why do we not talk about
Brandon Lao? He could lead the league in homers for
second base.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
We didn't talk about Brandon lau.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
You are a Brandon Law guy. I agree. I think
this is on leading off one hundred and eleven max
ev ev fifty is huge line drive rate. Look at
that sixty four percent hard hit rate, fifteen percent barrels
per plate appearance. Right now. His issue is staying healthy.
But he might be more under sold than we were
giving credit for.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
At twenty one homers two years in a row. The
batting average is never going to be good two thirty one,
two forty four. He's already hitting two forty or two
ninety two, which is great. But you want ran aloud
for the power, and you love the power in this
smaller ballpark in the weather. I think it is going
to be great for him, But as you mentioned, it's

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all about staying healthy and even like I thought, the
one spring training game that I went to that he
played in, they pulled him early, like the rest of
the starters win there. I think he was out after
the fifth. I thought something happened to him. I think
the rage just went, this dude's always hurt, Let's get
let him get x amount of at bats in. He'll
get two up bats every game, and then get him
on out of there. So if he gets hurt, it's

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in the regular season, not during spring training and all
that stuff. So they're babying him a little bit at
least early I guess it would be. But this dude
is going to have a lot of bombs if he
stays healthy this year.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
There's some other ones I'm kind of putting a pin
in to watch, you know. Matt McClain. He's in the
top twenty five of barrels played appearance.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
Yeah, man, he really has.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
He's sitting the ball consistently hard. Twelve degree launch angle
and something that might be like semi worth taking a
look at launch angle sweet spots an interesting statistic. It's
something that Mookie Betts does a lot. Those are guys.
If you can get the ball in the air, and
even if you don't have like ridiculous hit numbers, if
you're barreling and your launch, if you can get the
launch angle sweet spot to a higher percentage, the ball

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is gonna fly a little bit more. So my point
of this is second on that list, by the way,
Hunter Goodman, that's something that really stands out. But I
was actually going to take it to like Corbin Carrol.
Corbyn Carroll start was a little slow, but sixty percent
sweet spot, fifteen degree launch angle one fifteen max EV
with the barrels like Corbyn's been a great buy right now.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
He already has somebody on Fangrafts did an article about this.
I was reading it and max evs from last year
this year already Corbyn Carroll has the highest increase from
his max EV last year this year already.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
I think it's a three three and a half miles.
I think it was like one twelve or something last year,
and he's already at one fish lead, so I have it.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
It was one eleven point five last year's one fifteen
point seven, so four point one already Podhorser, Mike Poterthheorser
did this article.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Oh okay, nice, yeah exactly, that's that's great. Will your
bray you on here? I love him and you can
see ridiculous launch aangle with the bat speed. And then
just one last one, Griffin Conine. I'm not a big
Griffin Conine guy, and you know, low launch aangle, not
sweet spot. You know, some things are working in his favor.
But you know, he is hitting the ball pretty hard
and he is barreling right now. So something to watch.

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Let's go to hard hit swing percentage. Let's sort by
that real quick talk about a few of the leaders
on that one, and then obviously we can go and
like you know, we can pick apart some of the
other things that are paired with it. Alec Bohm is
the number one of those. So this is registering the
amount of your swings that are registering hard hits of
ninety five miles per hour or higher. Alec Bohm is

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doing that with some barrel rate right now and an
almost one ten max EV. But look at that on
Chango four point eight. That's always his problem. He is
not a analytics guy. He's a line drive guy. Maybe
it's gonna equate to like solid you know, just RBI
numbers and stuff like that. He'll be like a Josh
Naylor ish type of corner infielder who hits in the
middle of a lineup and twenty something homers with one

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hundred RBIs. But it's just still not in the air.
But the hitting profile looks really good and he is
tapping into barrels right now. Freaking Alec Bowman, I always
talk to myself out a not being interested, So I
don't do you have anything on Alec No.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
I mean he's just he's a good option. Obviously this
is not gonna stick. But yeah, I mean he's always in.
He's in a good lineup and in a good spot
to drive in runs.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Just like you said, Wan Soda to tell you how
not sticky things are. One. SODA's number two on this
and hard hit. Thirty six point seven percent of his
swings register hard hits. But he's got a three percent
barrel rate. That's gonna adjust. Big names on the Schwarber,
Judge Correa, you got Ellie Duran, Shohio Tani. Two guys
that kind of jump out, Cameron Meisner and Tom me

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Edmund on this, both have twelve or higher percent barrel percentages.
Both of them are close to thirty percent of their
swing percentage registering hard hits on there. Meisner looks like
you know, everyone was into Johnny DeLuca. Meiser might get
a little bit more opportunity. He might be a deeper
league outfield to take a look at. And Tommy Edmund's

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not out there, but I just I do, I do
love me some Tommy Edmund.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Yeah, Meisner's had a couple of nice, big hits already.
And then who's the other guy you were mentioning in here?

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Well, just Edmond and Meisner were the two weird standouts
that were.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Oh yeah, top ten. Well, Carlos Korea had his first
hit yesterday, right, and uh, he had been miserable. I
think he was like, oh for fifteen to start the season,
or oh for seventeen or something, and finally got his
first hit yesterday. So speaking of not sticky, you know,
these numbers are good, but no hits.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
So yeah, some other names in the yo Heineo shows
back up on this. So like when you can have
the correlations of like, oh, you're again, I just reiterate
for the twelfth time. I get annoying, but I just
want to point out like I'm not being like, hey
goes blah blah blah. It's it's a week. This is
gonna look wild, is over Alec Bregman. No, I'm just

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saying like, it is fun when you can have these
connections of guys clicking in multiple top tens or fifteens.
Heneo's in there, and obviously you would in this short
sample size. Ben Rice is in there top fifteen as well.
There's another one. Willie Castro always stands out here, just
such a sneaky option. Uh, you know, the barrel number
is pretty good. He's got a one ten max CV already,

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launch angle twenty five degrees with a thirty Like a
thirty to thirty four percent is like on the higher
end of sweet sweet spot launch angle. So that's hitting
that on that perfect spot and getting the launch angle.
Anything higher is like elite. So that's why none of
this is sticky. But it is interesting that he's kind
of in there. Nimo, here's Gavin Sheets. Gavin Sheets is

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not barreling, but he is getting a lot of hard
hit balls. He's not hitting the max side big, but
ninety two two point five average exit velocity. That's kind
of interesting, Cam Smith. Look at this, Cam Smith, twenty
five percent of his swings are registering hard hits. He
has zero barrels. He has no laun jangle because no barrels.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
It's a negative one.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Negative four point four launch angle. So he's beaten crap
into the ground right now. But he is hitting it
really hard. So that's that like super unlucky bab it.
He's getting you know, on base and stuff, but it
is just not working in his favor. I think that
kind of tells me a fun little story about cam
Smith and that unluckiness. And then you know, Brendan Donovan,
JJ Blede are in here. I think there's some fun guys.

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Any of those that you wanted to hit on, from
Ben Rice to Sheets to Cam Smith.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Uh no, I think they're all you know, like Cam
Smith is a goodbye right now because people are probably
afraid he's gonna get sent down he has no barrels,
blah blah blah. But you can see the turnaround is
going to come pretty quick. Here.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
It's definitely all Christian Campbell though right now he is like,
look good for the al side, just quickly just looking
at these last ones. EVE fifty like to look at
EVE fifty because again that's the top fifty percent of
their hits in what that ex of average X of
velocity looks like a lot of people will cite to
you that average x velocity is garbage, and for many
reasons it kind of can be. But when you take

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the top fifty, you're getting a better story. You need
a month more of accuracy on this, but so far,
I mean, look at the names. Aaron Judge, Delonzo James
would but then you got Nate Low. Nate Low in
here ball in the air, launchangle over one ten and
he's barreling. Nate Low might be super sneaky if this sticks.

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Jorges Soleira is number five with a one oh seven
point four top fifty percent velocity, almost identical numbers to
Nate Low, by the way, a little bit more launchangle,
but barreling the same. Johannio is six, Ben Rice is seven.
Those two have popped up twice. Otani, Vlad and Schwarber,
so again huge chalk names. And then there's a couple

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dudes where it's like Nate Low is not going to
be a top ten type of dude. But if he
stabilizes a bit and he's like a ten percent barrel
with this type of hard hit and he's getting the
ball in the air, he might sneakily be a twenty
five homer guy. He might really be a better option
than we.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
Got credit for. We gave credit for the in draft season.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
I mean, I love that Devers is eleven on this
list and he only has eight bat of ball events
and he played every day. You know, Ben Rice is platooning.
He only has eight, But that's just funny to me. Also,
a negative launch angle for Devers right now.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Let's look at actually, let's go to launch angle real quick,
and I want to look on both sides of this.
I want to look on the positive launch angle, which
means nothing, but it's hilarious to me. Kyle is Bell
thirty nine degrees. If you look at guys with let's
say fifteen or more batted ball events, you would go
Jonathan India, Austin Riley, Luis Robert, Kyle Rawley have huge,

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huge long launch angles, which it's okay, but you got
to make sure you're making really like it's not good
when Jonathan India has a zero percent barrel rate and
Austin Riley is down there but straight up into the air.
But click it.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
Again and go to negative.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Jordan beck A negative ten degree launch angle, Tommy fam
negative five, Cam Smith negative four, Our Boy, Jake McCarthy
negative three, Michael Harris negative three, Dylan Cruz, Jung Huli,
Brian Reynolds. That's your top in negative. And look at this.
Only one player with negative launch angles has a half

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decent barrels per plate appearance, and that's Michael Harris at eight.
Right now, take that for whatever it is. It'll be
much better with Baseball Savant once we get year over
year changes, so we can compare I want to compare
bat speed, swing length. Those are going to be good,
and then obviously any of the other like expected stats
or any of these stats. When we can go year

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over year, it's gonna be much more helpful as whereas pitchers.
But just to give you an idea that might spark
in a few players that you guys might want to
take a look at when you're looking at Baseball Savant.
All right, now, let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
Take a look at some of these hitters that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Have been struggling. You had wrote anyone started bad enough
to try to buy and low to buy low. I'm
gonna caveat this because you put massive names that are
that Summer does. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
I mean I think you can buy anybody. It's just
are they going to be able to be bought low?
Are people giving up this early? I think?

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
And then I think the other way? The other way?
I think we can phrase this two. Are any of
these lows worrisome enough that you might want to try
to get out of? So we can ask both questions here.
Number one, this start bad enough. It's not counting today
because some of these guys did play today. You're Alvarez
three for twenty hitting one point fifty four rbuys. We
preach there's you shouldn't panic, you shouldn't freak out. I

(01:00:49):
A do not think you can buy him low? And
B I would not sell him for one cent under
his actual value? What say you?

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
I'm with you, by the way today oh for four
to two strikeouts?

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Even better? So what is that three for twenty four
with more strikeouts? Same sentiment? Do you think you can
buy him low at all? And would you sell out
for any worry?

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
I do think there's I think there's a contingent of
people that hate Alvarez enough to where maybe you could
get him low. But I think it's going to take
at least another two weeks of bad play, and then
at that point are you actually worried? Right? So, I'm
not worried about I don't think I'm gonna be worried

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about any of these guys this early. But I don't
think there's many spots where you can buy Autresla.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Probably well, well, then I present to you a real worry,
Rafael Devers. There is your real worry across the board.
I believe he had one hit today.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
I don't know if he had.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Won for four, two runs, a walk in a strikeout,
so he.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Is up to three hits now. He finally got on
the board. I believe it was like yesterday, got a
couple more RBIs. I think he's probably mathematically I'm guessing
hitting like right around like one hundred. He has been awful.
People think he's fat. I think he looks the same.
His swing is behind, it's slower, it looks longer. He

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looks lost and in his head. And there are people
that are in massive panic mode. I know Piez of
Peia is in massive panic mode. Mine is like, I
don't like this, but I was buying. So here's the question, would.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
You buy low? Yes, I would buy low.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
And I have been on devs because I think it's
so crazy that it moved teared down in costs to
the point where like someone might consider a guy like
this might not be the right example, but bent toast.
Here's another one, yo Hennil Swarez. J Andel Swarez is
a post one hundred player. You know, if you got
offered Yohneal Swarez for or no, if you got offered

(01:02:51):
Devers for your your Johanneo Swarez, would you make that move?

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Yeah, I think I would.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Okay, so then I think we would both buy him low.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Yeah, I think. And I love Suarez and maybe he's
in for this gigantic year because he hasn't slowed down
since the switch last season, but I don't know. Just
seeing his career overall, we know that he's a streaky player,
so Devers is kind of turning that way and that's fine. Yeah,
but I would buy Yeah, I'm a buyer.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
So I think that already answers that Like the other
side of the question, would you sell out? Like no,
I think it's his bad start is so bad that
you're going to get ripped off.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
And I think there's still a small contingency of people
that hate Devers as well, but I don't think most
of those people are drafting him, So you know, it's
probably the correlation of buying him low is probably not
there on these guys. If you were low on him
going in, you probably didn't draft him.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
So Austin Riley, he's definitely struggled. Three for twenty seven.
It does have a homer batting average is not there,
not quite the same. He did show up on some
of those lists. The stat came out, no team has
ever I'm back from Owen seven and made the playoffs
and no team, oh god, what was it? Owen seven? Oh?

(01:04:05):
I have had a winning record? Or no, it's been
forty two years since a team with a oh and
seven record had like or yeah, started Owen seven had
a winning record.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Can we bet on that somewhere? Is there somewhere that
you can bet on eighty one wins?

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
Uh? Or no? You can bet in the playoffs. You
can bet the playoffs or division. I believe the Braves
winning the division is Look at the half yeah, it's
three and a half to one for the Braves to
win the division, which is the same thing as them
making the playoffs. So I think that floats in the
same thing. I don't know where that is, but I know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Yeah, I mean, then let's buy because this team is
still really, really good. And by the way, I have
Riley and Michael Harris here on this list, but I mean,
you could have put the entire Braves roster on here.
So I just I started skipping Braves because you could
put every single one of the starters on here. So
I think I thought I'm playing on most of them.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Riley Olsen, I'm a little bit hesitant on Harris, but
Harris did have some interesting stuff he showed up on
that sheet. So by low, yeah, I think all the
Braves we would buy low. I think the answer is
that Christian Walker hit a homer today. Oh yeah, sorry,
go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Well, I'm just gonna say, do you think anyone's selling
these Braves low? Yeah? I do.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Oh that's yeah, that's a good I'm glad you asked that.
I do think all of them, but I'm not sure
it's low enough. I kind of feel like Olsen, maybe
Riley I don't. I think it's still gonna cost it.
I think Michael Harris might also be one of those that,
like you know, moving to the lead off spot.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
No one wants to sell either.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
Okay, that's what right, Yeah, kind of thing. Christian Walker's
on this list. He hit a Homer today. I would
have bought low. I still would. I don't think people
are selling him low enough, and I wouldn't sell any different.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Nope.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Marcus Simeon, that's another big one people are freaking out about.
I guess I'm a.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Buy a lot a lot of his entire Yeah, this is.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
Him, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
I'm buying Marcus Simeon low, and I do think people
are selling him low.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
I would sell him low to me. I want Marcus
Simeon offer him to me. I want Marcus.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Okay, how about h Willia Domas three for twenty three
three RBI one thirty. It's way too early to send
Bubba any type of a tweet or text about told
Yousto's because that wasn't the necessary piece of it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
It's just I thought there could be a little chop.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Off of his production instead of him being a guaranteed
thirty plus homerun hitter I would buy on a Damis
if it's low. I gotta be honest with you. I
don't think it's low enough because he's already like a
ranked sixty seventy eighty type of hitter. What is someone
really selling him for They're going to go and take
Andres Jmenez for him, So like, I don't think it's

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worth selling him. But I also don't think anyone is
selling him low enough that I would buy. So I
guess I'm I'm a no buy on Willia Damas.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Yeah, I think I am too, And I think it's
because of exactly what you just said. He was overrated
coming into the season, so now that he's bad, I
think he's probably going to be properly rated, right instead
of you know, yeah, yeah ish yeah. I mean, maybe
maybe a little too low. But I'm yeah, I'm not
buying him either. I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Mark Viento's two for twenty four going into this two
runs an RBI. I know Piece of Pa is a
big buy on him. I gotta be honest with you,
I don't. I guess I'm not a buye And if
someone is selling him for dirt cheap, I would be interested.
I would argue that I don't. I think we're just
about to get to the territory where players are so low.

(01:07:28):
If anyone's selling them, I would do it. I feel
like Viento's is not because he's like the cleanup hitter
to pet Alonzo and Juan Soto. But I've always been
worried about the average and strikeout issues. He's got big,
monster power. I just don't think there's enough of a discount.
So I'm gonna guess I'm not a buyer on Mark Vientos,
and I might be willing to sell him, especially because

(01:07:50):
I think the sentiment of Mets fans might keep it
up a little bit. What's say you on Vento's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
I think I'm okay to buy him. He did slow
down at the end of the year, right like, he
hit two ninety one in the first half, two forty
seven in the second half, but the power was still there.
Uh So, twelve homers in the first half, fifteen in
the second half, with only a few more app bats
in the second half. So I think I'm okay with him.

(01:08:16):
You're not buying him for average anyway. When the power
stroke starts going, he's gonna start hitting a lot of bombs,
so I'm okay with him. But again I think I
was higher. I moved third basement higher my rankings just
because I didn't like the third base as a whole.
So I think I had him where he was typically going.
But I don't have any shares at Viento's. It's not
a guy I was buying.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Yeah, Wilson, Contrera's horrible start. All the other guys are
doing really well with one for twenty three, He's got
a couple of RBIs. He's not making contact. I am bye,
bye bye, especially where I think people look and there's like, hey,
there's Herrera and there's these guys. Now see here's the
goofy thing. If there were guys like Wells and Herrera

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available on the wire, why in God's name would you
spend any money on a catcher. But if you have
a catcher league, even two catcher leagues, where people are like,
holy crap, Contreras can't do this, blah blah blah, I
would be a bye because he's just putting a prime
opportunity Eronado doesn't mean a ton for me here.

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
I am a bye on Contreras for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Way more opportunity for him to break out of it
as a first baseman. So yeah, I'm I'm a buy.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Also, okay, let's do wrap it around on this. Mason
win by or no.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Hitting at the bottom lineup, not starting well, I can
sell him.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
Also, No, Jeremy Pania hit a homer today, by the way,
starting to get back up by or sell.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
I'll buy him too early in this season. Let him go.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Also a buye for me. Luisa Rise hit a homer,
my god, one of four all seasons, and I know
he's just doing the things, but he's not getting the
average and there buy or sell Luise A Rise.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
I'm not a Luisa Rise guy, so so.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
This is stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
We're agreeing on everything. Yeah, of course I'm not going
to buy Luis Rise. Lane Thomas one forty three right now,
three twenty one, buy or sell.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
I don't know if the rest of these guys are
good enough for me to buy, so I'll just sell
the rest of them.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Okay, I would buy Laying Thomas. I don't think I'm
interested in the rest of them though. JJ Blede Blade
did go and acquire himself some torpedo bats, so maybe
be on the lookout for that, but fingers crossed that
maybe blade doesn't work out, they find a way to
move Rooker or Soda Storm or someone to the outfield
so we can get Nick Kurtz, who's going absolutely ballistic

(01:10:22):
right now. So that's my take on that. All right,
Let's take a look at a few of the pitching
interesting pitching performances, and let's start with Zack Gallen, who
I was most critical about. Will buy or sell on
some of these, but this is also to break down
Zach Gallon was a pile of crap in his first start,
no fastball command, he had to go to the change up,

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the curveball didn't do anything. Everything against the Yankees was different.
I think it was a career high thirteen strikeouts, thirty
one percent fastball, thirty percent curve change up was at
twenty two. He even got some sliders in there. And
look at this seventy two percent with rate on that curveball.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
That was the put away pitch.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
That was the put away as he wants it to be.
Thirteen of eighteen swings were with eighteen swings fastball, fifty
five percent zone rate. That was in like the thirties
last time. So he's hitting the zone, he's getting called
strikes on it. He's offering this up and then he's
dropping curveballs. Change up sixty three percent. I mean you
texted to me. I tweeted it vintage, vintage Zach Gallon.

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But Velo is still kind of just. He averaged ninety two.
He hits ninety four and a half. But this was
the Gallon you wanted. So here's my question. We have
one poop start, we have one incredible start. What Gallon
are you buying? Are you buying him coming off of
a thirteen strikeout game thinking there's upside? Are you selling

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him because of that poop start and the weird command
that he was able to Readjust.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
I think both of these games were affected by the
umpire by the way. I think the first game he
had to throw the ball in the tea cup, it
was super high scoring on both sides. That game was
ten to six. This game was four to three because
of a three run bomb in the bottom of the ninth, right,
So I think Gallan got a little bit of favor
from the umpire in this game and no favors in

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the first game. So the answer is he's somewhere in between.
But he's a good pitcher. I think I would lean
on the side of Zach Allen still being a good pitcher.
Then I would you know he was bad because of
that very first start of the year where he was
getting squeezed. So for me, I'm a bye.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
So I think it's super interesting because it's like, holy crap.
I mean, the Cubs were a crazy monster team and
then you face the Yankees and it was like just
polar opposites of starts. I'd be honest with you, coming
off of a thirteen strikeout game with the knowledge of
a fastball that's kind of wavery, with the command that
was wavery, and we know what. Here's what we know
about Gallen at this point. If he doesn't have his fastball,

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he's ft. He's screwed, like he's he can't get to
this other stuff. Like I'm gonna sell because I think
this thirteen strikeout game got him back to value. You
got him back to that spot. I love seeing it,
and I'll eat my words if he has a couple
other starts where everything is fixed and he's good to go.
But I think he's just volatile where that fastball, if
it is not command, he is absolutely like there's other

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pictures people deal with that stuff. But like Garrit Crochet
didn't have his best stuff. He went primary cutter in
his first start, and then he still had like strikeouts
and not a ton of hits and was good. Gallen
just doesn't have that enough.

Speaker 4 (01:13:24):
Because his back.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
His back two pitches are a knuckle curve and a changeup,
and those gets smacked around, and then when he comes
back to the fastball, see a hard hit. So I
think if we got him back to value and someone's like,
holy crap, top twenty again, I think I actually might
be interested. I'm gonna be a sell on Zach Gallen,
hopefully shocking the crowd.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
I think that is it's a little surprising. But also
I do think that Gallon's profile is a guy that
will fall off fast. So if he does, if it's
this year, it's this year, right, But I just I
don't think it's this year. I think he was overworked
going into last season. He was work during the season.
I think they should have shut him down and they didn't.

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And I think a full offseason of proper rest is
going to do way more for him into the season.
So we'll see. I could easily be wrong, but yeah,
I'm going to be on the by side for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Garrett Crochet. Garret Crochet's start was fine in his first one.
I want to make it I made it out a little,
you know, a little much that my level of worry
and stuff like that. The second start was much better.
He was like forty percent cutter is very weird start
in his first one. This next start, which but what
was his I just went away from the box score.
It was eight innings, eight strikeouts, four hits with one walk.

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He gave up six hard hit balls, but I mean
that was what we were looking for, the strike at
the whiffs. He didn't have a ton of whifs. He
had fourteen whifts, but they equated two strikeouts, fifty percent fastball,
twenty nine percent cutter, eleven percent change up, and then
he threw some sweepers and some sinkers in there. Velo
looks like it's very stabilized. There was no downs. It's
just it's kind of across the board normal, which I

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think is good fastball. It was right around the zone.
It wasn't doing a whole lot, but it's set up
tons of swings on the cutter, which is his new
favorite pitch. He can get called strikes and whiffs on
it change up one hundred percent with rate on. So
that's a ridiculous pitch that he doesn't throw in the zone.
And he just has too many offerings. Still one of
the best pitchers in baseball. Seems a little weird to

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me early on the walk thing is there, and the
two pitch mixed changes are there. He's definitely not elite.
And what I like about it is I don't think
he's coming off as a top five sp right now
in all of the sport that if there's any type
of acquisition to be had, I would go and do
it for him, because I legit think in a month
this could be top three and everyone's ooing and aweing

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over him. Maybe he is to most people, but he
was ranked around nine or ten. I'm a bye and
I'm so encouraged that he was able to bounce back
against this Orioles team. Do you have any take on
Garrett Crochet?

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
I just want to hear, like, what's the level? Like?
So if I offer you yes, okay reagans for uh.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
Uh or I have to move yeah? Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Okay? So what so, yes, Reagan's was good. Yeah, ten strikeouts,
cease sale, Yes, Gilbert, all those guys you're trading for
for Crochet.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
I mean I had him higher than all those guys.
Gilbert's a tough one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
But yeah, well we're a couple of starts in for
these guys, your opinion can change. They're all in the
same teerish I would assume.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
Yeah, they're all the same. And usually you wouldn't do
picture for picture, but you're just looking at the level. Yeah,
uh Wheeler, Yeah, I think so, Okay, that's how much
I like Crochet.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
So everybody that's not Schooble or Schimes, and we'll get
to schoobl but outside of those guys, pretty much every
you would still have him at three.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Yeah, and and I guess, like I said, the biggest
walk away is like I was a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
Worried after the first start.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
I'm now not. But again, this is a balance of
like how much do you worry? I've verbally I gotta
do podcasts, so people are like, what are you worried about?

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
Gallon?

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
It's like I got to talk about it like I
saw it a gallon. I didn't love what I saw
out of Krochet in this first one. Well, guess what
both of them bounced back. I just like the swing
and miss stuff for Crochet is going to be absolutely ridiculous.
And by the way, I mean both of these guys.
But Croshet had the Rangers and then the Orioles. But
Gallon's uh, we had the Cubs and the Yankee, So
that's not any easier either. Drake's scuble Drake Scubel twenty

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three swing and whiffs against the Mariners. It wasn't his
best outing. He gave up three earned runs, but he
struck out eight five and two thirds, gave up some hits.
Had all of the swing and misses in the world
because the Mariners stink. And I had the first five
in this and stupid cold Keith ruined it. But my god,
look at this. Forty four percent overall whiff rate, forty

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three percent with on the fastball ridiculous, fifty three on
the change up absurd, thirty eight percent wiff rate on
the sinker CSW percentage elite. Everything was over fifty in
the zone, dude, fifty eight percent outside the zone. Swing
percentage on the change up and the sinker just ridiculous.
Everything was very sustainable. You gotta love what you saw

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at a Trek Schooble.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Yeah, I mean outside of the final result.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Yeah, well he gave up a couple of runs and
Colt Keith screwed him.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
But yeah yeah, outside of that, Yeah, Threek schoobl is
absolutely fine. Don't worry about the er. I was not
worried about.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
Here, No, not at all. All Right, So I'm going
to talk about a couple of the other just real quick,
the interesting outings. One of them is Mackenzie Gore. A
lot of these guys went yesterday too, by the way,
So mckenzi Gore was absolutely elite. In his first start,
he had thirteen strikeouts, like Gallen, almost unhittable. The slider
was going ballistic. And here's a really big key that
I noticed, And this is why I need more than

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two starts. The first start, it was second highest pitch
percentage was his slider.

Speaker 4 (01:18:53):
He went in berserk and had great results.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
This one. He had five strike very normal like start,
five innings, five strikeouts, He walked a couple, gave up
some murder runs, a lot of hits, all of the
hard hits. Jesus eight, that's nine hard hit balls. But
what's the correlation. Look at this seven percent slider. He
stopped throwing his slider that went way down. He was

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like twenty something percent on the slider. He didn't trust
it in that start. He was able to go fastball, slider, curveball,
change up. This one, it was fastball, curveball that was
practically it why. I don't know. Fastball didn't induce a
bunch that he kept it in the zone. Good pitch.
Curveball was solid a fifty percent with rate, but everything

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else he just didn't throw enough to set up. So
I wonder if and I don't understand why he didn't
throw the slider as much. But slider big strikeouts, this
one not as many strikeouts. Toronto is tougher. That's a
tougher team to get strikeouts on. I still feel pretty
good about McKinsey gore. I'm not going to back too
far off because I thought that was a pretty good

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outing against all things considered. I really want to watch
the next start and what he does with that slider.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
You got a what would it be, four h nine
bapit already this year, three forty last year, three twenty
six careers. That's kind of high as well. So yeah,
I think I wasn't super highn Gore coming in. I
should have definitely been higher after watching his first start,
but yeah, I'm not panicking after one.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
Well, but I don't even know if it's panic. It's
like people were like, oh my god, he has thirteen
strikeouts and then is he gonna come back? And it's like,
I guess maybe this panic. It's like if you had
the thirteen strikeouts and you're like, oh, he's a pumpkin.
I actually am still a buyer on McKinsey Gore, but
I want to see what happens in the next start.
With the slide, I think it's pretty easy. It's like, oh,
you throw your slider, you're really good. Maybe it was
something you couldn't do against the Blue Jays, but I

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kind of think I want to buy because I think
there's an easy tell here and a story. I pulled
up this I didn't mean to, but Paul Skins, by
the way, thirteen swinging with six strikeouts, seven innings, three hits.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Paul Skeene's issues issue, right.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
Yeah, he's the GQ issue. Yeah, you see there's some
stupid article too. It was like Livy Dunn and him
almost broke up because Paul Skeens wouldn't follow her back,
and I was like, dude, this world is so stupid.
Now you imagine.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
It's like I don't believe any single part of that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
But who cares? I don't even know. I don't care
about belief. Who cares that? She has to tell them like, oh,
we almost never are not broke up. I'm sorry, but
we almost never dated because he wouldn't follow me back.
It's like, dude, shut up, like nobody cares about it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
Two really interesting back to back pitchers Shane Boz ten strikeouts.
Let's put this up here on the box score. Ten
strikeouts against the Pirates. They've had some obviously some swing
and miss issues. Gave up a lot of hard hit balls,
so you're not going to get away with that forever.
But ten strikeouts, six innings, walk none. He looked really,
really great. Thirteen swinging whiffs.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:21:56):
For the Shane Boz. Boz was curveball primary, then fastball
and slider. All of those twenty percent or higher everything
came off of the curve. He ate them up, and
he set up everything with the fastball and slider, which
were in the zone pretty interesting. Eight wiffs, ten called strikes.
That's a fifty three percent CSW percentage. I don't know

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if you can do that all the time with a curveball.
Obviously the Pirates can't hit it. Shane Bows really great
results versus Thomas Harrington, who got beat up a little
bit in his start four innings, gave up six earned
runs a little bit being nice about it. He struck
out two, but he walked four. He was trying to

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paint around and it wasn't happening. Fastball was way in
the zone seventy four percent. He got hit hard on it.
He tried to paint with that splitter, but it didn't work.
People just sat on the fastball and it wasn't in
the zone enough. Same with the sweeper. I think there's
stuff there in the future for Thomas Harrington, but it
really wasn't there. And his fastball sitting nine one, like

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you got to you gotta get the ball out of
the zone a little bit if you're working with that.
So any thoughts on Bos or Harrington.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
I mean, Bos, it's interesting that you know the curve
ball was the third highest in his arsenal last year,
twenty and a half percent and it's only two starts
this year, but twenty thirty five point four percent, and
the width percentage on it is up as well, thirty
one point one last season to fifty percent. I wonder
if this was a active strategy because of the ballpark, right, Like,

(01:23:31):
you don't want the ball getting hit in the air
in this ballpark at all. You want to strike guys out.
And maybe so maybe that was an.

Speaker 4 (01:23:38):
Active thought process. Just interesting to see the change.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
That's an interesting way to say. Yeah, you could just
be like, hey, you know, trust your defense, you know,
trust your fast or.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Don't trust your defense to get strikeouts, don't let them
put the ball in play. I wonder if that's the.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
Well, I think it's the invert I mean, you, dude,
he threw a fastball in the zone seventy five percent
of the time. It's like, so maybe he just didn't
have it. And I think it's a trust your defense.
But also you couldn't throw your sweeper and your splitter
for strikes at all. That's the old Casey Mice thing. Cool,
you have this awesome splitter, but buddy, if none of
those are ever strikes and then you just are going
to throw fastballs for strikes. Hitters know what to wait
on fastball, and you know your commanding issues. So I

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think Carrington could bounce back. He's not an option right now.
Shane bos is very interesting. Let me ask you this,
Shane Boz or Casey Mize.

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
Bos Boz.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
I think I might go Boz too.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
That's pretty coin flippy to me. But yeah, I think
Boz okay last a lot of strikeouts.

Speaker 4 (01:24:36):
It is a lot of strikeouts.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Last one.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
I want to take a look at were they both?

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
Do they have back?

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:24:41):
They did? This is screwing me up here.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
They Texas had back to back one oh wins.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
Yeah, yeah, both in Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
I know that's really screwing me up. I thought this
wasn't clicking over. I want to take a Jack Lighter,
who in five innings struck out six, gave up one hit,
one freaking hard hit ball, really really impressive. A jokes
aside with it. I have always been a little defendee
about Jack Lder when it's at the worst, and me
and Joe got into the thing where I was like, listen,
Jack Lighter is actually not like a bad pitcher. He

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has no command. He'd run the best sliders in college
baseball when he was out there and he would pump
high nineties and college kids couldn't get up to it.
Problem is it got to the majors is he didn't
have enough secondary offerings and the fastball had no command. Well,
guess what this last start? He is two straight good starts.
He went primary slider forty four percent, almost a fifty
percent zone rate, which is pretty impressive that you can

(01:25:34):
throw it for strikes, get it inside. He got whiffs
thirty seven percent, fastball seventy three percent zone percentage. Why
is this interesting? Foul tips called strikes and he's pumping
ninety nine averaging ninety eight. So you got a ninety
eight mile part fastball when you're throwing that behind a
slider and ten percent usage of a sinker, a changeup

(01:25:55):
and a curveball.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Kitchen sinking you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
I think there might be if Jack Lighter his key
is being able to command. If he can throw the
fastball and really the slider for strikes and he can
throw and not you know, miss the zone. Jack Lighter
is proving he has got some stuff that can be unhittable.
We might be moving into a territory where we are

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beyond just Streamer for almost fifty percent outside of the
zone swing percentage. I think I'm kind of interested in
Jack Lighter. It's a very early sample size, but two
very very encouraging things with Jack Lider.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
You yeah, I mean I like it, and like you said,
there's there's opportunity here. I mean, Rocker got smacked right,
so I don't know how long he is for the rotation,
but Lighter seems pretty locked in. I mean, this is
a very good team behind him as well. I know

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there's not a lot of downside here for Lighter.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
They've spent two plus years just trying to rework him,
had him down here in the developmental list, just reworking, reworking,
you know, get this sinker in here. Throw the change up.
He's getting strikes back. Like they found a good said
the kick change up. That's the other thing. He's doing
a kick change up?

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
Now? Is there let me ask you this, is there
a guy that is less than fifty percent owned that
you would immediately drop Jacklighter for?

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
I'd have to, like, well, pull it up real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
I mean, is there anyone? You know?

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
It just depends what you're looking at. From the numbers
are like CBS numbers are probably the relative.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
Yes, the why I would say, I'd say, yet probably
have to look at Yahoo numbers.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
Well, I'm what I was meaning is like CBS is
the most active, Like Chris Boubach is like sixty percent
owned or something on CBS. Like those are active, active
leagues if you're talking to the active people. Jack Lighter
is probably twenty five percent owned on Yahoo, ten to
twelve percent on ESPN, And like if you start comparing
it against I just have to start thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
I'm going to look Okay, So.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
Like I'm looking at some pitch like Eric Fetti, Like
I might be cool with the Lighter over Fetti. I
think there's more up ter on on Yahoo.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
On Yahoo, yes, would you drop? Would you drop him
for Jeffrey Springs, who's like fifty eight?

Speaker 4 (01:28:15):
Oh that's tough.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
I think I would lean on Springs slightly, okay, and have.

Speaker 4 (01:28:21):
A good start.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
Dustin May had a really good start. No, Dustin May, Severino.

Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
Maybe Severino might be one Facett. Yeah, I'll be fine
with that. I think there's more upside.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
Okay, Yeah, so so I mean he is, he's like
a borderline guy in most leagues, not in superactive leagues.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
Yeah, that's that's exactly right. So Jack Lighter and a
little look and break down at some of those pictures.
Last thing we can do just real quick, just to
set you guys into the weekend, some weekend streaming pictures
to take a look at, and a couple guys that
are scheduled at least at this moment for Monday Tuesday.
We're looking at the streaming list over on Fantasy Pros
and Saturday. It also shows roster percentages. I'm gonna run

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you through. I will also say, let's yay or nay
a few Reese Olsen versus the Chicago White Sox nineteen
percent owners ownership. Yay your nay, I say yay, yay.
I like this one. Actually I'll do this one first.
Matthew Boyd nine percent but San Diego Padres, I say nay, yeah,
probably not. I'm a horse, uh this one. Edward Rodriguez

(01:29:26):
eight percent owned, going up against Washington at Washington with
those lefties, he went five and one third in his
last outing.

Speaker 4 (01:29:33):
Yay or neay, yay.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
I'm also a ya. Michael Waka against Baltimore twenty seven
percent ownership.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Neae.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
I'm also gonna neay it. Aj Smith Schauver against the
Miami Marlins fifteen percent ownership.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
Uh yay. I'm also he looked good in his last
in his first start.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
I'm gonna yay. Marcus Stroman against Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
At Pittsburgh, I don't want Marcus Stroman.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Okay, And let's I don't dick fits. How about against
the Cardinals Richard fitz Ummm.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
That was more coin flipping to me. I'll say nay, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:30:10):
I'm gonna nay it. Also Sunday, we're gonna go like
under thirty percent guys, Kamar Rocker, you go back to
Kamara Rocker against Tampa Bay. No, all right, I'm also
gonna know it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:30:24):
Bubola Boobla is going against Baltimore nineteen percent own. I'm
actually gonna yay this one because of all the lefty
pats there Boo Boo, we call him Buba boom Bach,
Chris Boobach.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
I'll say, I'll say nay, I don't want guys going
against Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (01:30:39):
Grant Holmes against Miami twenty percent ownership.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
Yeah, I'll go back. I'll try again.

Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
I think I could do that. Jordan Hicks against Seattle
thirteen percent ownership, fastball up strikeouts. I will actually yay
this one.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
I will also yeay it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
Yes, I don't know if there's any Jackson Joe against
the White Sox. He might have been dropped in some spots. Sure, yeah,
I will also yae it. Martine Perez versus Detroit.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
I mean, why not he looked good. Let's let's try
one more time. I mean the magic could wear off.
But uh, if you you know, that's a Sunday so
if you really need it, yeah, I'm fine doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
I might avoid it, but okay. And then potential two
starts for next week. On Monday, Dustin May thirty five percent.
He's going against Washington. Yes, And I don't see who
the second start is because I'm not looking at it
like that, but I would say yes on Dustin.

Speaker 4 (01:31:30):
May you agree?

Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
What about Luis Severino on Monday?

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
He's got San Diego. Ummm yeah, I'm okay with that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
Casey right, I don't like it. I'm not going to
do it, but I get it. Casey Mees has got
the Yankees, but it's in Detroit on the first start,
and I can't tell who the second start I should
have gone to. I'm not looking at two starts. I'm
looking at like it's like over the next five days,
so I'm not seeing the second start, but I kind
of I like Casey mys in general, so I'm a
yay on Casey mees same. And then if you do

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the Tuesday starts. Merl's got Baltimore, so that's a NIX
for me. Shane Boz we talked about He's got the Angels,
so that I think is a yay.

Speaker 4 (01:32:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
Jack Lighter's got the Cubs. That's a big old fat
no for me in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
Probably not.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
Yeah, And that's.

Speaker 4 (01:32:17):
About all that I think is out there.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
So there you go, a little bit of breakdown of
some of those pictures, a little bit longer episode than
we're usually gonna do. But reminder, if you guys have questions,
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I will be live stream on Monday on Twitch dot

(01:33:01):
tv Slashion in this League and on the YouTube, and
then I think Thursday will be the other day, which
will be on Twitch, but only on Patreon on the
other side, So make sure you guys walk into that.
I would love to have you guys with me answering
questions fantasy. We're doing raft We did raffles for a
Bobbywit Junior bat and a Jackson Trio autograph jersey. I've
got some other great stuff we're going to be doing

(01:33:22):
next week. But we also we're just talking fantasy, doing
live breakdowns, talk some prospects in there. So I hope
you guys want to come and hang out with that
and come over to end this League dot Com on
the Patreon just to bring it all home.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Bugs, What are you laughing so much fun?

Speaker 4 (01:33:38):
Let's go laughing at you were looking at something, you were.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
Laughing the cat feeder went off like right at the cat.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, you have your hand up. You were
trying to mute. I didn't hear it, I did, I
did need it. Yeah, we got it. You son up
a bitch put that cat feeder on the show. Let
us all laugh.

Speaker 4 (01:33:52):
All right, that is it. Friends.

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
You can also find me on Fantasy Pros Monday through Friday,
twelve pm Eastern Live for leading off.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
Sure you check that out.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
Hope you guys have a fantastic one and we will
talk to you next week right here, anymously, he

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
M hm

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