Episode 817 - The Week of July 28th - In This League Fantasy Baseball

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
What's up friend as Welcome into the in This League
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for you. In the last week of July, August is
almost here. The MLB trade deadline is this week. Potentially
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Class A. Bogs is on non disciplinary paid leave. Yes,
you guessed it for a gambling investigation the second Guardians pitcher.

(01:46):
But this one hits a little bit different. This actually happened,
no joke. Three minutes after we ended Leading Off and
we did a longer show on Monday with Joe and I,
this news broke that he has put on administrative leave.
And it's not good because this is one of the
top closers in the game, Bog.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
So this isn't this starting to feel like the end
of Goodfellas where they start like putting people in handcuffs
and taking them to the cars. You know what I mean?
You see the nark uh you know, going to witness
protection and all that. That's what it feels like right now,
is you know they're they're building up this case against

(02:29):
this pitching staff.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Kind of feels like, yeah, Luis Ortiz was the first one,
and uh, I wonder if he's gonna get off a
little scot free if you know what I mean, Like,
is he opening this sight.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Song I'm trying to see. I'll play like two seconds
of it. Well, yeah, if you do it so that
you remember that one where Okay, I.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Don't think I've seen I don't think I've seen Goodfellas
in twenty five years.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, I just like there's a lot of dumb TV
shows to make reference that song when they're like wrapping
people up. So, I mean, it feels like this is
the end scene of a movie and people are starting
to get handcuffed.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
This might be a little Sopranosi though, like it just
ends where it's like whoop cut off. This one definitely
hits harder because obviously Emmanuel class A is one of
the top closers in the game, he hasn't performed at
the top ish level. Also, some trade rumors are out there.
He an't getting traded here, and it is just like
the Louise Artis situation. What's different at least where we

(03:28):
get to talk about is we now understand I remember
when we talked about the Louis artis situation. We didn't
understand the like what the hell it was. They're like
they're looking at individual pitches and blah blah blah. And
then what we understood was it was based on certain
sites that were allowing individual pitch based betting, which clearly
is going to go by the wayside. Like I know,

(03:51):
there isn't a lot of regulatory stuff, but we I mean,
I guess you know, I say that, and it's like
it's the off crazy books that are doing it. I
don't think it's any the major books, and I don't
think they want to allow that, but there's gonna have
to be some regulatory Look. So again Luis Ortiz was
flagged for individual pitches, and so has a manual class.

(04:13):
The most interesting stuff that's come out, because this is
like new new news is foolish Baseball put this out.
Emmanuel Class has come into the game at the beginning
of the ninth inning forty times this season. There is
a stat which, by the way, where the hell did
they find it? Called waste percentage? I can't find it anywhere.

(04:33):
I know someone will tweet at me and let me
know where it is. Great. I found an article on
fangraphs that talks about it doesn't link it anywhere. I
went through all of the subcat I cannot find it.
I was on Baseball Savannah.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
It might be easy. This is in the first by
This happened literally three minutes before we jumped on.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, I'm saying we looked for five minutes before and
it might be something super. I cannot find it, But
foolish Baseball did this. And the reason and I'll tell
you why I want. I defined it. So here is
the waste percentages, and it is a stat that are
pitches that are not close to the zone. So I
would say it's probably similar to like no doubter percentage
with homers. Those are ones that would just go and

(05:13):
you know all the ballparks. This is a pitch that
is not even remotely close to the zone. Every Okay,
So I'm going to work backwards. So he has the
first pitch of the ninth inning percentage, and every other pitch,
every other pitch besides the very first pitch of the
ninth inning, he has a five point two waste percentage,

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So five percent of his pitches that are not the
very first pitch, five percent of the time they're garbage.
E pitches cool. The first pitch of the ninth inning
seventeen point five waste percentage, So you're closing in on
twenty percent of his pitches that are the very first

(05:55):
of the ninth inning were garbage. Now I wanted to
go and look because I want wanted to see a
is that the highest b I want to see the gap.
I wanted to see, like what is the average gap
between most closers in the ninth inning or like some
of the top guys. Is it? Is it ten percent?
Is it twelve percent? Is it five percent? Well? Here's here.

(06:18):
This is pretty nasty. They shared this from twenty twenty four,
and I think they should have put this in the
headline of it. We have class as twenty twenty four
waist percentages. Are you ready?

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Please tell me it's over ten percent on that first pitch.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Every other pitch besides the first pitch is less than
last year. It's four point four percent. But that lines up.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Too, Okay, So yeah, that's in range.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Every pitch besides the very first pitch of the inning
four point four percent. Two thousand and twenty four, first
pitch of the ninth inning four point five percent.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yes's not great.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
That is within point zero one on both sides, and
this year it's over twelve percent difference. Now he's having
a worse year, you could argue, but that doesn't look great.
That's not what you want to see. Again, I would
still love to track it if I have more time.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Than is not causation. You know, we don't have everything
we need yet here. But that just from the jump,
that does not look good.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
No, it doesn't look super great. He throws a lot
of cutters, you know, and I'm looking here. One of
the things someone put in the comments is that, you know,
again trying to find the correlation. It's a lot of lefties,
and it's a lot of cutters. He's throwing in on lefties.
They fools baseball.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
It might just be that he's, yeah, that he's facing
way more lefties and he occasionally misses to lefties or something.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah. Like again, this video has it's like twenty seconds
of some of his first pitches from this year, almost
all of them lefties. They're all cutters. A lot of
them are way inside, some are in the dirt, you know,
I don't know, like the one heat that see. This
is what's kind of goofy. I'm looking at this and
talking about this. I think there's one writing in the

(08:15):
video and it looks like Bobby Witt and that one
is just absolutely trash dirt in the ground bad. And
and a lot of the lefties are just hot, like
really really inside, but that Bobby Witt one is like
dirt bad. So here will be the thing they're gonna go.
Look and they're and clearly they're doing this because unusual

(08:35):
betting activity. This doesn't look great. It does not look
great because what the next step we're gonna find out
is there's gonna be like Louis Ortiz, probably two or
three crazy unusual bets and then they're gonna be tied
to the first pitch. And there is data here that
shows the waste pitch percentage and it's it does and

(09:00):
feel great. And then there's two pitchers that you know
on the same team that are doing it. This is
a Cad Smith conversation. I just would like to point
out I put this out. If Kate Smith is out there, you,
I mean, if he's still out there, you've messed up.
He's probably not out there at any point now because
we have a full hour of recording this. Cad Smith

(09:20):
is the guy he got time earlier in the season.
Now he could get traded and that's going to throw
everything for a big loop here, because the Guardians were
looking at trading But I would say, based on this
investigation going on, I'm not sure that they want to
trade Cad Smith. What's next year going to look like?
Is he going to be suspended for all next year?
They want to compete? I think the point was to

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have to trade one of those guys and have the other.
So I kind of think Kate Smith does not get
moved now, and I think he's the closer, so you
should pick him up. Best case scenario, they clear, or
they don't have enough evidence or whatever. The worst case
scenario here is they're going to clearly tie the betting

(10:00):
to the pitches. You're going to see a really, really
bad run and god knows what else they do. It's bad,
It's super bad, and it's bad for one of the
best in the game as well being tied to this,
and it man gives you some some fear across the
board here that more players are out there. Here's another stat.

(10:21):
Let's see if this is any good. This is from
a Han Rungata, who is formerly of Parlay Science pick
wise thirty three thousand followers. We'll see Emanuel claus through
twenty two pitches this season with ano count with the
bases empty outside of the game day strike zone. Of those,
he says he's classified eleven of them is uncompetitive. And

(10:45):
here is a look at them. It's it looks like
he just took the video, but it's actually a minute long.
So he's saying eleven of twenty two pitches were not
So that's like a fifty percent marker of the count
that he's saying is uncompetitive. So, like we are getting
into we're getting into the throes here of data and
people looking. And what's going to be fascinating is when

(11:05):
we find out because we got the Luis orties, I
think ones in question. If we start to get like
which pitches are in question here, there's some bad looking ones,
and I don't know what baseball does about this.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, I mean at least we're you know. I think
what you do is you find the little leaks that
you have in gambling like this, and you discipline the
Bejesus out of the people that try to take advantage
of them. To show hey, look, we will get you.
You know, if you find a way to gamble on this,
you find back channels and all that stuff, you're not

(11:40):
smarter than us. We're gonna get you. So I think
it's good that they're you know, it sucks that they
have to do this and that people's names have to
be driven through the mud. But I think they wait
until they have pretty convincing evidence to announce these because
Baseball doesn't want this black eye. They don't want to

(12:01):
go through this, so it has to be very, very
substantial for them to bring this to light to the public.
So not good for cous Ay.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
And the last thing I see here, you know, just
in going through it is he has been put on
leave through August thirty first, and they said they're not
going to comment on anything. I believe that's Luis Ortiz
as well, so you know, regardless if he's innocent. And
I got to say, like, at the end of the day,
if they don't, if they can't tie the better to

(12:35):
the player, I don't think they have anything like that's
like the and I assume by the way that they do.
But I'm just throwing this out here. If they cannot
find a tie in some capacity to the better, Like
this is just going to go by the wayside and
scare everybody. And this could be a good scare tactic,
you know, like one of those things where you know
investigators are like, buddy, we know you did it, but

(12:56):
they don't have substantial evidence where they can say like, oh, hey,
by the way, the the better who bet you know,
fifteen thousand dollars on a first pitch happened to be
his cousin. If they don't have that, like they might
know it, this might be the ultimate scare tactic. So
that would be. That's the optimism I'm giving you that. Yeah,
it's going to take a lot, but also right it
would be I would say, like to suspend these players.

(13:20):
They have to go through the union, I would imagine,
and I think there are ties, and I don't think
you're these guys are going on any type of leave
because they just want to check stuff out, like they've
probably got enough and it's going to get nasty. And
that's why like this the stinks. The stinks for fantasy.
Class A is a cut in fantasy. If you want

(13:40):
to take it to that cade Smith is the must
own and you hope this isn't a Tikopeda Marcano situation
where these guys would then be I mean, hopefully they're
better betters. But also that's like career ending, like you're done,
You're done forever type of stuff. Why why what was

(14:01):
the difference between Marcano and everybody? Because I know Marcano
plays a bunch parlays or whatever, and he lost everything
and then he got the lifetime ban on the first instance.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
I think it was because it was his money that
he was betting. I think if you are physically betting
you're on any baseball you are done now a game
that you're in, if it's a game like because Andrews
Salfrank got busted for this as well, but he only
got a year. But he wasn't betting on games he
was in. He was betting on games that were being played,

(14:31):
So I think, but Ifano bet on games that he
was but if if.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
It's like, let's just complete hypothetical.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
And I don't know, I haven't read through the Marcano.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Okay, but but just hypothetical. If Classe's cousin bet thirty
thousand dollars on first pitch to be a ball and
they find it and it's a tie. Is that enough
for them to say this is a lifetime ban because
it was his I think.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
So, I think I think it is. It may not
be because he didn't physically bet it, but I think
if you're you know, if you're throwing a pitch out
of the zone, uh, you're not competing properly. You're you're
throwing a part of the game. It's a tiny, any
bitty fraction of a percentage, but you know, you're still
that there's no integrity in the game if you if

(15:16):
people are doing.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
That, all right, So here's I'm just pulling this up
here to see if we can. This is about to
Coopeter Marcano identified baseball betting activity data obtained operators, and
none of these players played in any games they placed
a bet.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
In.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Further, all of the players deny that they had any
insider information reliant on baseball that any baseball games they
bet on. This is MLB said in a statement, MLB
obtained data. Let's see. Sorry, I'm just kind of going, yeah, here,
what here it is. Marcano was under big an investigation
for betting on pirates games while on an injured list
in twenty twenty three. His bets were flagged by a

(15:54):
sports book.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
So he was him.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Then, Well, that means Marcano wasn't betting in games he
could directly impact, as he was recovering from a tourney.
ACL betting on baseball strictly prohibited. Five players, including Marcano,
are on the MLB investigation into gambling violations. That was
Michael Kelly, Jay Gruin from the Padres, Jose Rodriguez, Andrew
saw Frank. They each faced a one year band Marcano

(16:19):
bet eighty seven thousand dollars on baseball and one hundred
and fifty total on baseball games. He plays two hundred
and thirty one bets, winning just four point three percent
of the time. Marcano band marks the So the other
four players okay, so I think this might be it here, Boggs,
the other four players involved combined to bet less than
two thousand dollars. He bet over one hundred and fifty

(16:43):
thousand dollars, So I think they're taking the magnitude of his.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Also, it was games that he personally knew information about,
and I think the other guy's for betting, like Andrews.
Saw Frank got suspended because he was in the minors
betting on major League games, like you just cannot bet
on base ball at all if you are a baseball player.
He didn't know that, and that's why he got suspended, right,
So he didn't read the rules well enough. But I

(17:10):
think Marcano because he had inside information, Like it could
be as simple as, hey, look, we're going to miss
the first pitch to this pitcher or to this hitter
every single time he's up to whatever, to throw him off,
to get him to look to the outside, whatever it is.
You know, like you have any tiny inside information, you
cannot be betting.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
But see the difference here. I think, I think this
is all magnitude because all those.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Guys anything, situations, whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
It literally says in here, it literally says in here
that the other four players involved combined to bet less
than two thousand dollars. It doesn't give any information though
it says five players were the subject of MLB's investigations.
Those other four players it was two thousand dollars or
less that they bet on baseball. So in theory, they

(18:02):
would all have insider information, the same thing as to
Competer Marcano. But Marcano was a was a demon at it.
One hundred. That's what it says I think that's got.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Caught, but it I think it shows in there, like, look,
they caught these other guys and they were only betting
five dollars or whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, that's the magnitude thing. That's what I was saying.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Okay, it could be magnitude, but I'm telling you it ain't.
It has to do with what you bet on, because
like Jamison Williams in the NFL got suspended because he
didn't bet on the NFL. He bet on I think
it was hockey or basketball at the stadium. So there's
all these little bylaws and rules if you are involved
in a sport, and see.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
They don't make that clear.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Though they don't make that They don't.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Clear, which is part of the problem here. So it's
all speculative. The only thing that you can take away
from this is magnitude. You can speculate on the other stuff.
It doesn't really matter. But if you want to take
a perspective here, if it was one hundred and fifty
thousand dollars that Marcato was was tied to and magnitude
has anything to do with it, you're gonna suspect that

(19:07):
we already know with what's his face? It was fifteen
thousand dollars. Once the numbers come out, If it's anything significant,
which I would imagine it is, they have to consider
lifetime bands for these players because both sides are tied in.
You have a player who would be tied to insider
information which you're alluding to, and you would have bets
of magnitude which are far past those. There's no scenario

(19:32):
I can imagine that this isn't a lifetime ban unless
there is washiness about them tying the person who is
making the bets. Then it might be something like, hey, buddy,
we know it. You're suspended for a year. We can't
tie you for a lifetime ban. That type of thing
that's out there. So that's where it gets. We're getting
into all the weirdness of it is literally just happen.

(19:53):
But this is like the breakdown of the Marcano thing
to what this is going to do. Why it's different?
Those those were different too, by the way, because the
player specifically bet on it. How is baseball going to
treat a tie in and how can they confirm like
unless again, you also have players that this stuff could happen, like, well,
I'm the Dominican Republic, and you can't seize probably like

(20:16):
phone record, Like that's why this is going to get super,
super fricking messy and could go either way.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
I don't think people don't want gambling, you know, tied
to baseball at all, and they don't want to legalize
and I understand that, but yeah, I think that they
also have specifics written out in the Union agreement of like,
you know, if you're this betting on this, you get
suspended this, And I think that's I think that's how

(20:41):
it works. That's how Soult Frank got the year whatever.
So I think it has to do I think maybe
it has to do with how much you bet, but
I honestly think that's just how these idiots get caught,
is by betting an enormous amount on something. It looks weird,
you know. So I think it doesn't really matter how
much you bet, just that the integrity of the game
is questioned at all, you've got to go.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
I think that, Yeah, yeah, I mean you and I
kind of disagree on that, but at the end of
the day, it's like it's it's a multitude of things
that that they're not giving us clarity about. You know
some of these idiots, you know.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
We just say investigation. They just say investigation, and now
we have to wait until they decide they're done and
give us all the details.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Well, they still we didn't get clarity. We don't have
one hundred percent clarity on that situation unless there's an
article I just didn't find.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Mean, I just did a I'm sure answer. It's going
to be a million things.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Look yeah, on on what it is. But Kate Smith,
Kate Smith, Folks, that's where you're gonna want to go,
and maybe all your guardians are a little bit troublesome.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Before you pick him up, go look at his waist
percentage on that first pitch.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
If you can find it, let us know if he's
going to be.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
The next guy in the investigation.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
I love stats where you can easily find them. It's
just like, once I know where it is, it'll be great.
You're just like, oh, okay, here's like.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Batting average, was runners in scoring position? Super easy to
find stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
No, you kind of prove that too, like that wasn't
an easy one to find. But you know, maybe you
have to go into the The other thing I.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Just thought of is I'm sure it's out there.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Actually now I'm if you go into the Individual Player
I'll bet you this is where it's going to be
because they have yeah, picture visualization, can you sort now
see Now, I just want to like stop the show
and just do all of this because I actually might
not be something that there's like a leaderboard of.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Us where one of those we'll be right back signs
pops up. Yeah, yeah, we're a multimillion dollar company and
it's like.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
That, you know, and that's how it goes. But it's
you know what now that I'm thinking about. It is
probably under the player apps Individual Player Baseball Savant page,
but it'd be cool to see a leaderboard. All right,
let's move on from Class A because everyone else is
going to have to in fantasy, and it's from a
fantasy perspective, it's pretty easy. You cut Class A, you
pick up kid Smith. Those are the only two things
that are floating out there. If they trade kid Smith,

(22:50):
that opens up like a whole nother ballgame, but I
don't think they do. Cad Smith probably vaults into like
a man like a top twelve, top ten, maybe closer,
just because he's got closers. We were picking him up
at one point because of the Class A injury stuff.
So something to throw out there. Maybe we asked this question,
maybe the greatest individual hitting performance in baseball history? Nick

(23:16):
Freakin' Kurtz.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
I should have gone this game too. It was in Houston.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Oh, you could have gone.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I didn't even realize it got six for six, four homers,
a double which was almost a homer, eight rbi, six run.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
I looked on even one stone base.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
What a scumbag. Yeah. I looked on a search on
Leading Off to find the best individual performances of all time,
because we did a poll on the show, was this
the greatest individual you know, hitting performance of all time?
Because you can't throw pitching in because then it's like,
you know, perfect games. But we did have some people say, hey, listen,

(23:52):
four homer games are more rare than.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Ever in the history of baseball twenty so here where
you of them happened this year is gino crazy.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
The candidates out there are Sean Green, who had the
nineteen total bases, Carlos Delgado had a four homer game,
carl Crawford had a six stolen base game. There was
some dude who had a twelve rbi game from like Hamilton,
Bob Whitley, like some guy from like the twenties, there
was a guy that scored six runs in a game.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
But like I was a Nick Kurtz in this game.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, the totality of it is six runs, which I
think was tied for the most, four homers, tied for
the most, a little tied the total base marker eight
RBIs Like, I think this was the single best hitting performance,
especially one that's not like someone tries to come in
and say, you know, Curly Thigman from you know, nineteen

(24:48):
oh five hit a seven hundred foot homer and he
was eight for eight with twelve homer, you know, like
that type of nonsense that they try to sell us on. Like,
I think this is probably the best hitting for performance
in a single game of all time, and seventy three
percent in our chat agreed. Now, I think there could
be a recency because you know, well, yeah we were

(25:09):
you know, people don't really remember the Sean Green or
whatever it is. But absolutely, unequivocally unreal, and he has
moved into a minus eighteen hundred for Rookie of the Year.
He's solidified Rookie of the Year with that single performance.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
His war as a hitter in the month of July
is like two point four. The next highest is one
point seven. It's absurd.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Do you do you think there's an argument in Dynasty
of Nick Kurtz versus Vlad, like Vlad is kind of
the default number one first baseman. I have Kurts currently.
I've made an update since my last update. I've Kurts
is the third best first baseman. I have him just
below Alonzo. I have him below Vlad. Maybe he should

(25:51):
be above Alonzo, especially when age consideration is in there,
and then frankly ballpark. But do you think it's like,
if you had a draft right now, you're in this
second round, Nick Kurtzer flat.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
I would take Flad, But I think it's fair, right,
Like I think if you want to see what he's
doing right here and put him in that group up there,
that's fine because it is incredible. This month is insane.
I'll say this, like, if he hits two hundred in August,
I mean, he people are gonna you know, they're not

(26:24):
gonna forget about this performance, but they're gonna be like, wow, Okay,
he's just he's gonna be up and down. That's what
he's gonna be, and that's fine. You know, maybe he's
Aaron Judge, uh, but you know, maybe he is Vlad junior.
Maybe he's like down at that level.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
So twenty one percent almost twenty two percent barrel, fifty
five percent hard hit rate, ridiculous, ninety four average ex velocity,
ten percent walk rate sixteen launch angle expected batting average
two seventy three top two percentile expected slug expected wOBA
uh ex wOBA Khan topercent top five percent ex wOBA.

(27:04):
If I can speak only negative, still rocking a thirty
one percent k percentage. I've kind of been arguing a
bit before this game. I had been like, hey, listen,
if you can sell Kurtz on the high high, look
at it, because there's still some potential like wonkiness out there.
He had some home roads splits. If I remember correctly,

(27:24):
he was hitting over three hundred at home two forty
on the road. Maybe I made that up because he's
now well the single game might have changed it because
he's hitting over three hundred both home and road. He's
not hitting lefties though. There's a little part of me
that is floating out there right now that says geez,
you're coming off of that game, and what the numbers
look like right now, you might be able to sell
him for Fernando Tatis Junior. And I kind of looking

(27:46):
at that because he still does struggle against lefties. He
strikes out a bunch, but let's not deny that that
ballpark summer ridiculous. The way he is performing right now,
he looks like a second round pick and.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Three two sixty four four twenty nine, that's his batting average.
May was two forty three, then two sixty four up
to two forty nine in the second half because it
was in the middle of this month. He is hitting
five ninety five for in the second and a half.
That's ridiculous, it's absurd.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
I might look at it. I might if someone gives
me an overwhelming offer, But at the same time, maybe
you just run with it because most likely you have
Nick Kurtz paired with just like other great options, or
Nick Kurtz is picking you up if a first baseman
has kind of failed you, So it would have to
be it'd have to be one where you're like, hey, guys,
do I have to do this? Regardless of the point

(28:41):
Nick Kurtz, He's got all fields power. He's not even
pulling the ball right now, ball is going to fly
in that ballpark, and he's playing at an unreal level.
And that was one of the single best performances like
we've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
It looks like Jim Tomey like that two year around me. Yeah,
watching him, watching those at bats, I was like, that
looks like Tomy, like, you know, because Tommy was gigantic
as well at strong and yeah, I think that followed
through on the swing looks a lot like Tommy as well.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Like they call him big amish, is Kurt's amish?

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (29:13):
He might be from like Amish country in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I don't think he is.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
I mean, where's he from?

Speaker 2 (29:20):
This is a good question, first baseman, Why is Nick
Kurtz called big amish? Let's find out to see that
a flame.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Kurt, this is another like god from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, where
there's a bunch of I think there's a lot of
Amish people there.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Is that Amish land, all right. Kurts is sometimes called
big amish, but it's not necessarily because of why you
think it's because he is from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, which has
a large Amish population. You literally just got to it
a good job there, they joking jokingly and affectionately been
given the nickname Big Amish by his athletics teammates.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
I saw him the butter doing the butter churn when
he hit that double to start. Yeah, that was nice.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, I think that's why he Okay, so that's pretty fun,
because I was about to say, I mean, I'm not
really sure what the vibes would give off that he's
Amish outside of maybe not having like what a cell phone.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Or he doesn't he doesn't slow down. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, if he gets to the ballpark, he takes a
horse because the A's the A's actually in the spring training.
They're out their facility and then they have to take
a bus over to Fitch, which is like down the street,
and they get it in like so they all come
out and they get in these like little vans and stuff.
And I guess if there was a horse waiting out
there for Nick to horse over, that might be the giveaway.

(30:32):
But he's not. Actually, but he is pretty damn good,
pretty pretty good for that, Nick Kurts. There other big
news that's floating out there. Aaron Judge on the IL
right flexer. Stream did not want to go on the IL.
He's going to return and be a DH, so it
looks like they're just giving him ten days off. He'll
be back. He DHS, but it's not great. And the

(30:56):
conversation was with Spencer Jones come up, but he's dealing
with the back issue. I personally, I think we will
see Spencer Jones in the next couple of days. I
don't think the Yankees are going to make the move,
but I think Spencer Jones will be like make a
move for an outfielder. I think Spencer Jones, once he's
fully healed, he will come up to the Yankees. He
will be coverage for some of the outfield and I

(31:17):
think Aaron Judge is going to spend some extended time
at DH. But this stinks because in our second half draft,
I have the freaking second pick and I took Judge
and now I'm losing it for ten days, so there's
only so many games we play. This is gonna kill me.
This is like, this is enough in our second half
draft to probably damage me. But we do need him.
I need him back like instantly as a DH.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Well, do you have Class A too at least.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
I think.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
I hope not, I.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Really because I didn't. I didn't take closers early here,
so I.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Think I ended up taking one Nick Kurtz in that draft,
by the way, hat tip to didn't he go in
like the second or no, he went like the fourth
round of our second half draft.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
He Drowski win the second that was the big one.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Let me see my closers, by the way, No I
went low. Closers I had when I took Mason Miller,
and I have Fairbanks, took Jack's man. Do I wish
I had Cad Smith on there? But losing Aaron Judge,
I'm gonna have to put him on the io or
now I'm pretty brutal. Do I have Nick Kurtz?

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Damo has Class A and Kurts went in the fifth
round end of the fifth produce k.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Pretty good value, Brady Damn good value? Aeron Judge? Maybe not?
I do. I do think it is okay to speculate
on Spencer Jones right now. You know, you guys know
my feeling on him. Insanely great bat. He's got strikeout problems,
but he's a flyball guy that the ball is I
mean he has a average ECX of lost in a
right now ninety six miles per hour. He's hitting the

(32:48):
ball almost sixty percent. Actually I think it is over
sixty percent hard hit rate. Go pick them up, Go
pick up Spencer Jones in speculation. Regardless of the Judge thing.
I think the reason why he could come up is
by the Aaron Smitch Jones. He's six foot seven. He
can play all the outfield spots. That's why he would
be valuable as well. He can be a center fielder
if Judge is going to miss fit stended time and

(33:09):
they're really thinking about Gean Carlos Stanton in the outfield
not Also, the Aaron Judge thing has led to cal
Raley is now the favorite for ALE Rookie of the Year.
He hit his forty first homer, kind of struggled coming
off of the All Star break, picking it back up,
he is now the odds on favorite for ALE Rookie
of the Year. And this was the letter of the

(33:30):
case I had, I'm sorry, al MVP Rookie the years
on my mind. I had laid out the only scenario
where betting these guys would work, as if Aaron Judge
gets hurt light clockwork. There you go. If cal Raley
continues and the Mariners don't waffle, he has a decent
chance to run away with this now with this injury,

(33:50):
but he's the odds on favorite for Rookie of the
Year and up to forty homers. He looks like he
is lining up for an easy fifty spot. Easy.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
I'm saying Rookie of the Year.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
I said Rookie year again. Okay, you know what I'm
just I'm hurting so bad because my cam Smith ticket
is literally dead. It is twenty five to one. Would
have paid so nice. It is literally dead. Off of
one game. Cal Raley is joined by a new teammate,
Josh Naylor, who that I'm back traded away for absolutely nothing.
The two relievers. It's fine. I guess he's a you know,

(34:23):
he's a rental player. But they just traded one starting
pitcher who's probably going to be relief in Higay Ashton Easy.
He's okay, decent, you know, slider, he's got a good
pitch mix. We'll see if he amounts. Braden Garcia is
the one that's up in the majors now. He's got
a good sweeper, just solid middle relief guys. I guess

(34:45):
you don't want to complain too hard. They also traded
Randal Gritchik for Andrew Hoffman with the Royals, another guy
who's had a major league debut relief pitcher. It's fine,
it's just the thing with these relief pictures. They could
all be designated by next year and you have absolutely
nothing you love.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
I think, honestly, outside, I think they're just throwing relievers
at the wall and seeing what sticks. Because Puck and
Martinez both have you know, TJ.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
There's also this thought process out there that like this
could be one of those soft cells where they're going
to trade them all. But it's like you can kind
of pseudo compete if you have a bullpen or I
think what's more likely is you just have competitive arms.
Next year, they just have to get starters for trading
Suarez or Kelly. One of the big rumors, by the way,

(35:32):
is Suarez going to the Brewers for Logan Henderson, which
would be that's what you that's exactly what you want.
You want guys that can be starters. We'll see if
it ends up happening. But the trades are going to
pick up pretty big and a reminder, will be doing
a post trade deadline show later in the week. Speaking
of trades, here were some of the trades went down.
The Yankees obviously look like they're out on Suarez or

(35:53):
anything big because they traded nothing for Ryan McMahon and
they traded Clayton Beaters kind of a dude. But the
trade another little bit of nothing for Amed Rosario, so
they got some infield to help. We also saw Eric
Fetti traded to the Cardinals for a player to be
named Later, I mentioned the Gritschick one Greg Soto to
the Mets for again just kind of relief pitching market.

(36:14):
And then, well, that's kind of the trades that have
gone down. I'll stop there for a second. Anything stand
out to you. I mean, Ryan McMahon seems like he's
in a decent spot, Gritchet going to the Royals. It's
not really a great offensive space, and it looks like
he's gonna go back into most likely platooning again, but
you know, maybe more playing time.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah, I mean, I get notings really excite me. I mean,
I like the location for McMahon and Rosario, but I
think they kind of are gonna get platooned. So we
just haven't seen the big move yet. I mean, Naylor
to the Mariners is good, but I like him better
in Arizona, So yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
That's yeah. I guess if I would have phrased it like,
what's the biggest trade of impact, it would be the
negative impact for Josh Naylor. But but you know, like
Naylor's one of those guys that has just high RBI numbers,
doesn't necessarily hit a ton a ton of homers. He
kind of can go back to being that if he's
just the doubles RBI guy. That's fun. He stole some
bases this year, but like, I just still't adding it's like,

(37:15):
no doubt negative impact offensively of where he goes. Everybody
else is fine McMahon, You leave Colorado for Yankees' that's fine.
Gritchitt goes to maybe a little bit worse of environment,
like all of those low impact stuff. The big impact
should be coming here relatively soon. The Royals also, in
acquiring Raandel Gritchitt kind of tip their hand to be like, oh,

(37:36):
we're buying pieces, and then they decided to take one
of the big trade pieces off the market. They signed
said logo to a contract extension and that's big because that,
in theory, could up the market price of guys like
Merrill Kelly, Zach Gallen. It might also deter teams from
being able to even get a guy like Joe Ryan,
who's going to cost the world. So we'll see what

(37:59):
this trademark kid has for these starting pitchers. But that's
one more off the market, and I think he could
have been had for a little bit of a haul.
I think I actually think specifically that ups the Meryl
Kelly trade value, specifically of a guy that's like, you know, older,
can go innings, had a solid year, like there's some
similar traits to those players where you know, Zach Allen
pitched again this weekend, wasn't good per usual. You know, whatever,

(38:23):
whatever the Diamondbacks get for him, they're just going to
be grateful. I think it's going to look similar ish
to honestly, probably like the the Josh Naylor trade just
gonna be a couple of relievers. It's not it's gonna
look disgusting when the Diamondbacks trade Gallon. I think Meryl
Kelly will get more for Gallon, and that's just that's wild.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, I mean it makes sense now you would have
never thought that at the beginning of the season.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
So nope, bigger injury based things that are floating out there.
Blake Snell, as you wrote, fully hydrated, gonna make his
next start in the majors. They also activated Blake Trining,
so keep an eye. Ben Caspiraus got to save opportunity
after Scott, which further after Scott went on the aisle,
further proof you don't know who the hell's getting it,

(39:08):
and that's the chaos of the Dodgers. It could be
literally five different guys right now. But Blake Snell will
be back, so that's good. Austin Riley activated not show
out your Nlvarez took fifty swings, Holy cow and GM
Dana Brown says Jeremy Pina could return as early as
August first, So no team on the planet needs health more.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Than the astrosh And by the way, the last game
I went to Jake Myners left before first pitch. Remember
that John invited me to not come back.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
John's gonna have to pay you to not king.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yeah, so which, by the way, love the fact that
the ac company took over that place because it was
nice in there.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, you were talking about that. I don't know anything
about any of that, but apparently.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
I mean, it's just it's a.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Company bought the naming rights and they put in good AC's.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah, Houston is a swamp and it felt like a
swamp and then it made you know, so now that
it's psych and Park, the AC works, so that's nice.
But yeah, I mean, look at that. This team is
in first place by a bunch of games in the
West and they don't have their two best hitters on
a team right now. So I mean, at this point,
it's like, you know what, let him rest up and

(40:16):
get ready for the playoffs because this team's cruising anyway.
I mean, they did just get smoked by the Pirates, but.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah, well they need to make some moves.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Man.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
They got a couple guys, you know, Cam Smith and
Bryce Matthews are picking it up, but Paridi's looks like
he might be done. Alvarez is no closer. Jeremy Pine
is a positive piece of news out there Byron Buxton
rib irritation. If you're a poker fan, I immediately went
not like this, not like this, Martin Cabrel, So hopefully

(40:45):
that's not too bad. Jacob Wilson missed last two games
with the hand issue, Ali Rutchman coming back today, Jack
cagleon on the IL, and Mike Trout still playing through
nie soreness. Does not look like he's gonna be in
the outfield anytime soon, but pretty much said he's hurting
when he swings and runs.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Not great, And you wonder why I don't want to
roster that guy. I as a walking medicaid commercial right now.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
I just heard this question.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Though.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Let's assume Trout finishes the year and doesn't miss like
games and he's just on the the dhing andah blah
blah blah. Are you fully out next year because of this?
Or but like what if he has his most games
played in a long time, is healthy, he hits like
thirty homers, Like, where are you going to be out
on trot?

Speaker 3 (41:28):
I don't think I'm gonna have to worry about him
next year.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
I think you might, Okay, but we're playing a hypothetical.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Okay, if he finishes out this year and he doesn't
end up on the EE out, then yeah, he's going
to go back on my list because I know he'll
play all the way through it. My question is he's
already talking about how hurt he is and how he's
playing through all this soreness. They're not playing for anything,
So at what point do the Angels shut him down?
And then if they do that, I think I've flipped

(41:55):
the question back on you. Are you out on my
Trout if they shut him down at the end of
the year to save him for next year for nothing
because they're not going to win anything next year, would
you be then worried again that this could happen at
the end of next season.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
So it's all good questions. I feel like Trout was primate,
like he's already beat his price. I think at this
point he was what post one hundred maybe the late drafts.
He still needs he needs to get like twenty more
games in, but he's at eighty games, which is the
second most since two thousand and nineteen, or let's say

(42:32):
twenty twenty second most games he played eighty two and
twenty twenty three, so he's two games from that nineteen homers.
His averages kind of coming back up, Like I think
you're really close to return value on taking him in
the one ten, one twenties, or you're there. He's got
to get to like two fifty average one hundred and

(42:54):
you know, let's call it one hundred and five, one
hundred and ten games where I think he's destroyed his
value on what he he cost. But you know, if
he finishes like another one hundred and twenty games and
then there's the whole like, you know, my knee is
my neck, my back, my neck. I think he has
to still be drafted where he was last year. So

(43:14):
how many games are left in this in a season?

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Like let's say seventy okay, seventy if I'm sorry, like fifty,
it's fifty.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
So let's say he plays forty, he plays one hundred
and twenty and then the last you know, two weeks
of the season or something, they let him run. Like
that's not gonna affect me. If they're just like, yeah,
we're gonna let him chill the last two weeks, blah
blah blah, that's not that big of a deal. I
think you're on a good swing of like, wow, he
played a full season, But like the lingering of the
stuff is what is gonna concern me. If he jumps

(43:45):
up to being like a sixty overall player, then I
think he's gonna be way overweighted at post one hundred.
He's just I don't think there's a question he's returned
his value. But your your concern is like that was
it and he's gonna get back to it.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Okay, So let's do this. So, I mean Mike Trout's
numbers again, give me his you have them pulled up? Yeah,
eighty games, Okay, hold on, I just want to compare
versus Lords Gurril, right, just like an average Jag outfielder
for fantasy. Right, So what's he hitting? Did you say too?
Thirty seven to forty seven for Lordis?

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Okay, what do you want next?

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Runs?

Speaker 2 (44:22):
U he has forty two runs and thirty.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Five ford Lord has has played ninety seven. He's played
a couple more.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Uite more, that's nineteen more games.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Home home runs nineteen twelve uh rbi forty seven forty
eight for Lords and stolen bases two seven for Lord's.
So and by the way, you could have got Lordis
at pick number two oweight. Yeah, that was one hundred.
I'm looking at n FBC ADP from January to April.

(44:54):
It was one hundred for Trout. It was two o
eight for Lords.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not arguing, I thin I don't
think Trout has quite gotten to the stage where you
can say this is a big win. I think some
people are arguing, if you took him around one hundred,
you're already kind of right there in retrospect when you
compare it against like Lordis, like Trout is better, but
not World's better. Right, if you've got Trout at but
if you've got Trout at one fifty versus where you've

(45:19):
got Lordis, then I think it's like, well, Trout like
it's it doesn't matter right now. It's a little light
slight lean. But if you parse this out and you
say that because I think Trout in let's give you
this in the Yeah, the post All Star game has
not really been great, but he has hit two seventy
one and two fifty three the last two months. If
he finishes as a two fifty with like twenty eight

(45:41):
homers and one hundred and ten games like that just
beats the value. It will be better than Lordis as
a Jag outfielder. But it's not like a huge compelling argument.
But that's also why I keep coming back to saying, like,
I'm not sure there's a scenario where Trout can be
heavily in side the top one hundred next year because

(46:02):
of the misstime, because of the injury lingering stuff, and
because like this isn't a guy that's hitting two ninety five,
you know, with and you can project out these insane numbers.
I mean, when he played one hundred and where the
hell did it go? WHI I just went off the
wrong area and went to when he played one hundred
and nineteen games in twenty twenty two, he hit two

(46:23):
eighty three with forty homers. That's where you're like, holy crap,
he projects out if he can play these games in
this great way, he's floating this line where it's like
he has to play the games to return value. Trout
did not in that time. And that's the worrisome thing
with the average lowering and stuff like that, where I'm
not trying to make a big case for Trout. I'm
just saying the cost is working out. But if he

(46:46):
jumps up too much next year, we're going to be
into an act where I'm actually going to fade.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Yeah, and it's you know, if he's going past one fifty, great,
but anything before that I think is still probably a
little bit too rich because spinal stenosis never goes away. Yes,
this' knee thing that seems like it's never gonna go away.
It's just gonna be this Josh Donaldson like. And it
feels like for Trout where it's you know, hey, look

(47:14):
he has a good month and then then he has
a calf strain and misses six weeks, you know what
I mean? So, uh, just not for me?

Speaker 2 (47:23):
So I hope no, who you more likely to take
next year? Mike Trout or Byron Buckson?

Speaker 3 (47:27):
I think Byron Buckson will be playing next year, so
I'll take Yron.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Bucks You don't think Charle's gonna play next.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Year if he's this miserable where he's talking about how
much he hurts every game.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Oh but okay, but he's not like they're like, hey, Trout,
how was that game? Oh my knees. They're just saying
how are you feeling? To asking him about this report
that he would play in the outfield, and he's just like,
I'm just still have an issue.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Yeah, He's like, oh, I'm barely playing now, So no,
I'm not gonna play in the outfield. I don't know, man,
Like it just seems like it I I you know,
what Trout needs. He needs to get out of Anaheim,
Like just trade him somewhere else where you're gonna go
maybe d H and platoon or something, but no one's
taking on that money.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Well he could DH in Los Angeles that that's what
they need to make the commitment. Just sorry, you're a DH.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Well that's what they're doing now. And he's still saying
he's hurt.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
No, but he's playing in the outfield this year like
they did that with Buckston. He was it a year
or two ago where he just played all DH. Next year,
he just needs to be a full time dah. We're
not gonna even screw around and unfortunately, but then when
he becomes a DH only player, he'll lose more value.
That's the only way that you save it. He needs
to be out there consistently. He probably needs to be
out there not thinking about his knees and stuff. And

(48:35):
maybe maybe the field is affecting the bat too much
because of the lingering injury issues.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
I cannot wait for the Mike Trout Christian McCaffrey podcast
next year, like that is going to be such a
dope podcast. That would be excited for.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
It if I can host it. It'll be I'll be
the I'll be just fan going out a couple others.
I'm gonna just burn through it because there's a ton
of other things. I'm to go through a couple relevant ones.
Carry Carpenter is back. That's huge, you know, great obviously
platoon player, but just you know, overall solid in general.
Chris boobich Io with rotator cuff strain. I think that's

(49:12):
bad news. This, this is why they locked up. I
think Lugo and honestly they might be a surprise team
in the market for a starting pitcher that one.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Thanks, Yeah, I mean Merril Kelly would look good with
the Royals.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I feel like, yeah, especially if they sent us something nice.
But they don't want to send us nice things. I
want to send us. Andrew Hoffman, Dylton no one though.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Dylan Cruz finally apparently back rehab assignment on Tuesday, so
that's big news. Jack Peterson was activated. Cares about to
go off on Tanga there, Marcella Meyer placed on the
Iowa with risk right wrist sprain. That one could be
really bad. Grant Holmes placed on the IO with elbow inflammation.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
They already put him on the sixty two.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yeah, that's bad, bad news. Kyle brad is going to
begin a rehab assignment on Tuesday. I'm not sure. I'm
running to the wire, like because how quick how many
innings is he going to have for a team that's losing.
But hey, it's a live body. Bobby Miller's officially been
put on the put in the bullpen. That's probably actually
great news for him in his value long term.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
I mean, look, that's what they need right now. They
have a million different starters, so they need the bullpen.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
And another reason the Astros, we didn't eve mention this
Brandon Walter, who had been decent for them place on
the the isow with elbow inflammation. They got to go
and get somebody. And that's why the Astros and Diamondbacks
should be talking in some capacity because this this is
the team that should go out and say, please give
us Suarez and Kelly and they should trade whatever the
Diamondbacks wants. You have live fricking bodies on that team.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
I mean, yeah, I can. Paradus just went down as well, Matt.
Imagine adding Merrill, Kelly and Suarez to this team, then
you get Paina and Alvarez back.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
I mean I know that, and they got keep Smith
in the outfield and stuff like. That's fine, you don't
need him at third bit, like just they need to
make a big move and they are losing.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
They need they need bats. They definitely need bats, and
that's what they've said they prioritize. But yeah, I think
that would be a great deal. So but Brandon Walter,
I mean I picked him up for his last start
and then he immediately got hurt. So any anybody else
you guys want me to pick up you just need
to get away from now. Yeah, apparently.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
I mean, I don't think I'm the curse. I think
it's their staff, their training staff, because I can't be
the reason they're all getting hurt. I'm just a fat
guy that lives an hour north of Houston, so I
don't have that juju. But yeah, it's not great for
Houston right now. They do have many problems.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Not super good, many many problems. All right, break, we
come back. Let's talk about some of the big performances
over the last week. This will it'll be interesting because
this will kind of encompass what we had been doing
in the last couple episodes with this weekend. So a
true seven day run and we will do it right
for this.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
In this league, somebody royally forked up. Somebody forked up.
If you're trying to curse, you can't hear the.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Full shirt, Holy mother forking shirt.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
All right, let's start on the hitting. Big hitting performances. Obviously,
Nick Kurtz fifteen hits over the last week. Guess who's second,
Vladimir Gero Junior with fourteen hits. We were talking about
Machado and Springs with thirteen, and Bobaschett with twelve. The averages,
by the way, Nick Kurt's six hundred over the last week.
Michael Harris has been good. Vlad Junior's in there hitting

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just under five hundred, so is Cheerio and Fam. I'm
not sure who to hit on this. Bobashett is interesting.
I feel like we haven't talked about Bobachett in sometimes.
Bobas sheet two eighty nine, thirteen homers, four stolen bases.
The big positive is he's back. This is a guy
bought back into this season because I simply thought we
were going to get that og version of him, and

(52:44):
we're really there. Ish though the power numbers have really struggled.
It took him forever I think to hit that first homer. Yeah,
he didn't hit his first homer until May, but July
kind of tapered back down a little bit. But it's
high batting average, good counting stats. They're gonna need him.
I don't know there's any real trade market for him
or anything like that. If someone is kind of disillusioned

(53:07):
by the lack of power. I think there's definitely the
potential with how he's hitting the ball right now that
more power can come in. But at the same time,
he just had one of his worst power months where
he actually hit a homer. But Bobashett having a nice
little run here, and hopefully they bring in some more
reinforcements too. Do you they can come and get Yohineo.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Do you want Bobashett or would you rather have Trevor's story,
Boba sheet, Bobashet or Rafaella.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
I gotta look at Rafael. Raphael has had a nice
little run. I want to say Bobashet is my instant reaction,
but yeah, rafaela fourteen fourteen, two sixty five just had
a three oh seven July in a two eighty seven June.
But it's interesting then the second the post All Star Game,
he's hitting only two hundred, so he's had a bad

(53:56):
second half of July. I am going to say, I
think it's a Bochett, but if you're stolen base chasing,
it's Rafael. Rafael has definitely moved up my ranks, though.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
What about a Damis.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Ou Boschett. Even though Adamis is definitely bouncing back right now.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Yeah, he he's been cruising a little bit better. But yeah,
I think I'm with you on all those actually, so
uh yeah, nice to see Bobushek getting better, but yeah,
not quite where we.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Want him on the average front. I completely forgot to
do this today. I remembered over the weekend and then
it completely escaped me. I wanted to do this with Joe,
but just talking about the batting verag real quick. Michael Harris.
Michael Harris just had an absolute weekend, hitting four to
twelve since the All Star breks. Michael Harris had a
great weekend.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
You didn't rub that in Joe's face.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
I just forgot. I saw it one and I completely
forgot about it. Hitting four hundred since post All Star break,
hit two ninety three in the month of July. He
has had an atrocious season, but that little turnaround is
something very, very heavily to watch. I wish I could
see the broken down data since then, but because not

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everything is really adjusted. But like you know, he's striking
out at like the same level. Ball starting to get
hit hard a little bit. I think we need to
pay attention to Michael Harris. I legitimately think this could
be real on the second half, that things are clicking.
Three homers of his fourteen hits since the All Star break,

(55:28):
what is this? Seven of them are extra base are
in there, but he hasn't stolen any basis since. But
just be on the lookout. I think Michael Harris is
probably a bye for the second half.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
Let's go get Are you with me? Yes? I have
Michael Ahris in a couple of spots. I wanted to
turn this around because it's been miserable all year.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
On the homer front. Five homers for Nick Kurtz, four
obviously in that one game. Four over the last week
when to Otani, Julio, and Schwarber. Not a ton in there.
But I do think the Julio thing is interesting. I
picked him for our home run contest for today as
we're recording this two fifty five, eighteen homers, twenty stolen bases.
That's a super quiet twenty twenty season where he's kind

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of been disappointing too. Eighty six since the All Star Break,
did have kind of a slow overall July, but he's
come out hot four homers and three stolen bases since
the All Star Break ended. Barrel percentage is down, hard
hit is down, but not by a ton. His strikeout
percentages down though. Just got to kind of get the
ball back in the air, and he's going to be

(56:30):
key to them pulling this back in. And I think
he's trending in the right direction and he's legitimately gonna
have a twenty five to twenty five season. I don't
know if he'll get to that thirty thirty, but if
he has a really hot two months, I do think
he has a chance to hit that.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
I know you're waiting until after the deadline to like
do updated ranks for us this season and all that.
Where do you think you have Julio second round?

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Well, okay, so the tough thing is is I don't
do what you're doing. I do positional ranks. I don't
do overall, where do you think you would have him?

Speaker 3 (57:02):
He's not a first rounder anymore.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Right, No, I want to say he's a second to
third rounder because he legitimately.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Two three border Okay, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Think somewhere in there, I'd have to go and take
a look, like once I get my positional done, maybe
something I will. I'll definitely do a early twenty twenty
six rank update in September. I don't know if I'll
wait till the end of the season or if I'll
just do it like in September when we've got a
majority of the stuff or like halfway through. How I
do the ranks over in Fantasy pros is I just

(57:31):
do like rest of season weekly ones. But to be
fair and to your point, like this is about the
time where it's like, all right, I'm done playing the
injury game, you know what I mean? Like Arico does
injuries different he does the injury I'm sorry ranks. He
does his ranks. I don't know if it's at Fangrafts
or where the hell he does it, or FTN or
he does Yeah. Sure, Arico's on the Welsh train of

(57:55):
companies he works for from a couple of years ago.
But he does it where like he won't rank players
that are injured. I don't do that. I rank everybody.
So you're future forecasting with injuries. We're pretty close to
the like we're done future forecasting, you know what I mean, Like,
we got to make tough decisions now we are in
the we are the start of August is the dictation

(58:17):
of we got to make the tough decisions where I'm
no longer hoping this guy turns around, or I'm not
gonna hope. Okay, this guy's gonna be back in ten
days who struggled and he'll bounce back. Like we're making
tough decisions. So my ranks might look a lot more
towards the future in the upcoming ones. But uh yeah,
I think Julio is in that second to third round range.

(58:38):
He's one hundred percent not a first rounder, But I
might be selling him short when you think statistically of
like maybe it is mid second round comparative to like
a lot of the other guys that struggles, or you
compare it to players that we're in that second round
that have to come out now, Like I think a
really fascinating one is like Bryce Harper versus Julio Harper
had some struggles and injury. Coolio's had the injury like

(58:59):
it's it's who go.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
It's clearly Harper because he said get the f out
of the clubhouse to Rob Bamford.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Dude, we're we're one hundred percent having a lockout in
twenty twenty seven, just if everyone isn't ready for that,
Like I'm not really ready for that because my job
is this. I guess the saving grace is they love
me on football, so I'm you know, football is gonna
save my job a whole lot, and uh, maybe I.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Really need to just get out of that USFL.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
So yeah, well, I guess what I'm saying is luckily
my job isn't contingent only on baseball at Fantasy Pro,
so I'm safe. But we're locking out, like maybe maybe
there's a possibility, like they figure it out in spring training.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
It's really stupid to have a lockout.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
It is the dumbest thing on the planet. But they
literally do not care. None of these companies care. They
will sacrifice an entire season for that bottom line. And
it is this is that is the classic billionaires fighting
with millionaires. You know about more billions and we are
going to want to suffer, and I guess I mean,

(01:00:10):
this is a conversation for a year and a half
from now. But it's just like baseball is the sport
that can't afford it. WNBA is rising in popularity a
lot thanks to gambling. By the way, I don't think
hockey's ever going to do it. But it's just like
basketball is still wildly popular. Football is the beast you
might You've got these other football organizations that are out there.

(01:00:31):
I just it's it's competition is only basketball. I guess it's.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Also not a good time to be arguing about money economically.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Economically, none of us want to hear it, and it
is a bad look for absolutely everybody. For a sport
that is it is desperately trying to grow, desperately trying
to grow. You The thing that's most devastating to me
is the potential of wasted great youth. The idea that
you can have these young players in their prime and

(01:00:59):
you could sacrifice a full season of production to take
away It could be the difference between Hall of Fame careers.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
The Again, this is a conversation, and for that reason,
I like Bryce Harper over Julio Rodriguez.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Yeah, well no, I don't. I don't because the whole
like the players are saying fu to a salary cap,
like they won't even talk about it, and it's like
they should. I mean, unfortunately it'll never happen because of
the stance of Baseball allowing this. But it's just like
it's stupid money. It's absolutely dumb, stupid money that's out there.
It would be really great to have some type of

(01:01:30):
a I think there should be a cap, and I
know everybody's very player first. I want the players to
get all their money I want. I think baseball should
unlock a lot of the stupid rules they have that
keep players down. But I don't think the salary cap
is the worst idea.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
But you also have to make salaries follow and transparent.
That's what I want.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Yeah, give them. I don't know I have a salary cap,
have higher sharers. I don't know. Just I just don't
want baseball to go. And that's the really thing I
care about, you know me. I'm not I'm not a
hard ass about Hall of Fame or All Star.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
I don't care about any of it. Don't just don't
miss anything.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Just don't take the game away from us. So right, ye,
all right? So where the hell we were? Julio Rodriguez right,
RBI RBI. Kurtz led the way, critic can lead the
way and everything. But he had eleven, But with ten
was not only Schwarber, Boba Shit, Bobaschet over the last
week Matt Shaw with nine, and then he had the
group of eight Colson, Montgomery, Bryce, Matthews, Chapman and Baldwin.

(01:02:21):
Let's talk about Matt Shaw for a second, because I
said this about five games into Matt Shaw's little run.
We did this on leading off. Yes, pick him up.
Let's see if this is clicking. It looks like it
might be clicking here because he had that little five
game run. And let's see how it's connected. Since that
five game run, he has one, two, three, four five.

(01:02:45):
Am I looking at hits here? No, I'm looking at
runs here. One two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine.
He has ninety number two on the.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Player Raider over the last seven days, number two on
the Player Raider behind Kurtz obviously, and nine Kyle Schwarber.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Nine straight games of the hit since the All Star
Break has ended. Four forty four average four homers, three
stolen bases. Looks like he's figured it out and he
is getting going here. That's a huge positive sign. I'd
also say love this two twenty batting average against fastballs
and expected to seventy two. He's pulling the ball in

(01:03:23):
the air a bunch, starting to hit it hard because
his hard hit metrics. Think, I think things are trending
in a very good direction. Matt Shaw is absolutely up
on one of those players maybe in ten man leagues,
could still be floating out there because you know his
season totals like two twenty six, but very much into
what Matt Shaw's doing. I think this is a very
good positive turnaround. That's a guy to pay attention to,

(01:03:45):
and a lot of those other guys, you know, Kolson
Montgomery I had. I was talking with my buddy Sidler
Dennis and he was like, man, Kolson Montgomery proven so
many people wrong. And I was like, you know, I
was a big defender of him in the AFL, and
he's doing everything that I saw from him in the AFL.
He was hitting the lefties, hitting the ball hard, you know,

(01:04:07):
making consistent contact. The hard hit stuff isn't there in droves,
but he's got almost nine percent barrel rate. He's not
striking out, he's got he's getting the ball in the air,
sixteen degree launch angle, his hit one one twelve and
has an expected batting average of two fifty seven, which
supports where he's at. All of this is good stuff.
He's hitting breaking pitches and he's got a seventy point

(01:04:29):
positive differential between how he's hitting fastballs and they expected.
So Colson Montgomery, I think is a player that in
deeper leagues you should take a look at, especially if
this continues, because he's going to get run the rest
of the season.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
I like it. Yeah, I'm I'm right there with you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
And he's got the stir runs. George Springer led the
way with ten. We had nine from Vladdie and Kurtz,
seven from Adamis, Kwan Ramirez and Trey Turner, so all
big names. Maybe there's another positive in there for Willia
Damas who's starting to starting to get going. So stolen
bases Chandler Simpson five, Oneil Cruz four. That is kind

(01:05:04):
of the list the entire offseason. You know, it's funny.
After our conversation, my I did do the rank update
of Chandler Simpson. I've really been thinking about how much
higher he needs to go, considering the pacing of like
ninety stolen bases Mike Trout or well, Chanler Simpson is
going to be over Mike Trout like by a lot,
don't you think next year?

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
I think so yeah. I mean just he's got thirty
two is thirty two stolen bases, which is two behind Cruise,
one behind Cabbyiro. He has played twenty one fewer games
in ky Bairo, thirty three fewer games than Cruise. He's
had thirty one fewer played appearances in ky Bayiro, one

(01:05:46):
hundred and sixty one fewer played appearances then Cruise. You know,
give him a full season of games.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Why are you saying coyb Byro's name like that? Say
cab Bayerro your cob By Garrow.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
I don't know why I'm saying it like that, but
I mean, give him a full assortment of at bats
and the season's gonna steal one hundred bases. It's so yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
He's everything we wanted from Billy Hamilton. Guys, that's just
what it is. He's everything Billy Hamilton was supposed to be.
He's the prince that was promised. You know, Billy Hamilton
is target? Yeah, who is? Who is a knight or
a king that did not work out?

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
Who was not?

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Who is a fake prince that was promised in that
Game of Thrones world?

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
John Connington?

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Okay, so then that's who Billy Hamilton is. And well
you're saying reguar, but isn't John Snow is the prince
that was promised? Isn't?

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
I mean who knows.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
I can't follow all that stuff. Yeah, it's really I
just saw a clip the other day someone shared of
that whole scene where you know, Aria kills the the
Ice King or whatever and just spoilers my god, Oh right,
sorry he didn't watch all that, but like how convoluted

(01:07:02):
and how dumb it was that they built up that.
I just thought about how stupid the whole story of
the Night King and all that stuff was. That it
then had literally no substance or backstory, and Aria, just
like Aria Nike did it and one stab and the
whole thing was done with nothing else. And it just
made me think of just how convoluted and ridiculous that

(01:07:25):
whole story was and could have been better.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
What's what's that like, what's what was worse? I'm happy
to go more to whatever. It was not that bad. Uh,
it was not Game of Thrones level bad. Give me
a break, dude. It was not good, but it wasn't
as bad as you said it was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
No, it was well, no, it's better than what I
said it was going to be. But it did not
need to be made. No, did you laugh The thing
needed to be made. Give me a point where you
laughed in that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Come on, when Bobon was running around bear ass, when
Eminem said, Detroit, what to the alligators? Weren't laughing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
I didn't even hear that. I didn't even hear that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
You didn't hear him say Detroit. What I'm just thinking
because you're too busy laughing is that?

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Like I don't. I didn't laugh once in that movie.
I had entertaining points. I was like, oh, it's cute,
and like this is cute and stuff like that, but
I didn't laugh once. When the Mesa Mesa the Mesa
Mesa thing, I was like, what I say, I mean,
at least they didn't have Mesa Mesa's daughter. Everybody else
was a kid of that person, which was literally the
stupidest thing ever, they did it to a degree. I

(01:08:27):
didn't think they would do it. They had the kid
of everybody. Eminem's a kid of the you suck.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
Okay, okay, I mean I guess everybody just wants to
hate everything that comes up. I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
I did not want to hate it. I guess you did.
I literally said it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
So what you said last week, it was because it's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
A not good movie. It was better than I thought
it was going to be, but that's from it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
The worst movie of all wasn't great. No, it did
not need to be made, but nothing needs.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
If you had to watch the final season of Game
of Thrones or have to watch that that movie nine times,
what would you rather watch?

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
I'm watching once.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
One time, you know what, watch Happy Gilmore two one time?
Or watch the final season of Game of Thrones one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Time one time? Then give me Happy Gilmore because it's
over in two hours.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Okay, what if you had to watch it five times?

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
If I had to watch like once, Happy Gilmore once
per episode a Game of Thrones, yeah give me Game
of Thrones either way.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
I watch Game of Thrones since.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
I'm not gonna sit here and defend it. But it
wasn't as bad as every Everyone is like, it's the
worst movie. I'm not saying.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
I'm not saying it's the worst movie of all time?

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Is it bottom ten? Probably, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
It's probably up there of like blockbusters, of movies that
over one hundred million dollars, movies that costs over one
hundred million is even in the theater.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
No movies are blockbusters now, I don't really consider that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Well, okay, of franchises and stuff like that, like Battlefield
Earth was worse than than that. But here's my big question.
Will you ever watch it again?

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Yeah? I will. I'm sure I'll put it on. You'll
do it out of sight now, Yeah I will. I'll
never watch it again. You know what my new favorite movie.
Give me the poster, Send me the poster. I'm gonna
take down all these Michael B. Jordan's posters and start
putting up happy Gilmore two posts.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Take your microphone and start straddling it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Kids, Well, I gotta get that surgery for my hip muscles.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Yeah, awesome storyline too.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
That was that was really stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
It was It's the only good thing was John Daily
in that whole movie.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
You didn't think bad Bunny was kind of funny sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Who is the villain guy too? Who was that guy? Oh,
I don't know, I don't even know who that was?
Was awful. Yeah, all right, let's talk about some pitching performances.
Here are your big dogs. I think some of these
we already hit. I'm actually gonna like, I'm not gonna
do these because I think we talked a lot about these.

(01:11:00):
Didn't we do the Scooble one or not like when
we did our last episode.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
No, these are from these are from the weekend?

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Bro Okay, then we will do them scooble again. Amazing
now forty to one where he was ninety to one
on MVP odds. I still think he's interesting. Six with
seven strikeouts. Paul Skens gets his six win against the Diamondbacks.
Absolutely dominates the Diamondbacks six wins. Do you think he
gets to ten now on how they're getting him some wins?

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
Yeah, I mean it doesn't he's gonna win the cy Young.
I don't think it matters how many wins he's gonna have.
Is z is gonna be under two?

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
I think it's blown out. We'll see, but yeah, maybe
you're right. Garrett Crochet ten strikeouts. I just looked earlier today,
three up because my cam Smith bet is done. Only
thing I got live right now is Garrett Crochet to
lead the league in strikeouts, which is still a good bet.
He's up by three right now after having a ten
strikeout performance against the Dodgers. Brian wu and six against

(01:12:00):
the Angels, give up two earned runs. He's been awesome.
George Kirby six to earned runs, nine strikeouts against the Angels,
pretty pretty great. Nick Pavetta six and one third, four
strikeouts against Saint Louis. Kevin Gossman ten strikeouts, one hit
over six innings against Detroit. Good lord man, oh good he?
I mean me and Joe had this bet of Gossman
and Edmund and definitely Gossman is winning that one of

(01:12:23):
like equal value. He just is not slowed down. Another
guy that does not slowed down is Andrew Abbott. Andrew
Abbot six innings, seven strikeouts. I just don't even know
what to do with Andrew Abbott. Our boy Colin was
asking about him. He's got a two ERA, he doesn't
give up a lot of hard hit contact. He's expected
the ra is a run higher. Strikeouts are okay. I

(01:12:46):
just don't know if I buy it. He's got less
strikeouts than innings pitched, doesn't have an awesome fastball. But
as I said before, every single pitch at three point
one nine, three point one nine, every single pitch he
throws has a twenty one or higher with percentage, which
is the crazy number. That's a crazy number.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
Point one nine is seriously crazy low for expected e R.
The Sierra's four oh two. Do you say three one
nine or three nine one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Three one nine?

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
Damn?

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
He fine?

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Good low. I want to pull up here. I've not
looked up the stuff numbers. Let's look up the stuff
numbers for pitch modeling here, stuff plus over on fangraphs?
Will it ever load?

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
All? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Um? Just did and then it went away? Give me
stuff plus please? Uh? Where did you go?

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Here? We go?

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Fastball ninety three, Cutter ninety three. His slider is the
only over one hundred stuff plus number at one seventeen.
But he lives off location, so he is a sub
one hundred overall stuff plus, but he is a one
oh two location, so he's high on location. Great slider,

(01:14:01):
and he commands the rest of the pitches which are
just getting by but it's like eleven percent swinging strike rate.
So this is one of those things, like Colin was
asking me, I gotta get back to him because he
was hit me up on the weekend though, of like
is Andrew Abbott the real deal? Listen those type of
command numbers expect it's that they're telling us a lot.
I do believe that he is not this good, and

(01:14:21):
I think the strikeouts are a little mirage. But when
you command your stuff and you have a punch out pitch,
which he does in a slider, good things can happen.
But a lot of this seems a bit overperforming, but
it's hard to deny. I'm gonna just lean on that. Like,
I think he's kind of a sell you know, two
er low stuff, plus you know, outside of command on

(01:14:44):
the slider, Like I just I just think he's gonna regress.
A lot of that stuff tells me that he's gonna regress.
But you know what, the visuals are off the charts
right now. So I just don't think he's as good
as his numbers are telling us. And that's why, like
trading him at a high is what jumps out to me.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
I'm trying to his uh like, where does he rank in.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Probably pretty damn high. And what in stuff plus?

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
Yeah, eighty nine rush, yeah, because.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
He's ninety six, he's one hundred. How are you looking
at it?

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
I'm yeah, I'm trying to find it, but it's he
doesn't have enough innings. Let me cut it to fifty innings, pitch.
Let me see if that'll do it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Well, he's one hundred and three innings.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Yeah, I don't know why it wasn't coming up. He's
one hundred and first do location location plus, so that
is on stuff plus location plus, he is eighty fifth.
This is among pitchers with fifty innings one hundred because
there's one hundred and eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
One hundred, because that's putting relievers in there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
One hundred and eighty. And he wanted me to look
at location plus, well one hundred, you said a hundred. Yeah,
I'm sorry, one hundred, yeah, one hundred and then location plus.
So it looks like there's seventy nine players with one
hundred location plus. Andrew Abbott is forty fourth.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
All right, so he's still his mid pack. As far
as location his slider, I mean at once, Well, what
can you sort by sliders real quick? Sick. Yes I can, Okay,
because he's a one seventeen that's probably gonna rank like
top twenty, top twenty to twenty five. Okay, So the
slider is way up there, but he's mid average location.

(01:16:23):
His other pitches are average, but are led up by
the by locating it and getting some whiffs. But it's
not like swinging strike whiffs and stuff like that. Like
he's probably throwing a lot of you know called three strikes.
You know, CSW percentage probably is a lot higher than
what his actual Let's take a look. Can I find
that his CSW percentage is twenty seven point five, you know,

(01:16:48):
so versus an eleven percent swinging strike rate. So it's
a guy that's just he's throwing a lot. He's actually
got a really high first strike percentage as well, so
he throws a lot of strikes and gets people missing
because he's got five pitches that he can command. So
you know, that's all good, that's all good stuff. It's
just it's not any power stuff like that. The difference
like that Kirby has is Kirby has like a little

(01:17:11):
bit more powerful stuff. He's got a bigger fastball that
he uses with command, he Gabba just doesn't have that
also in a pitcher for everything just screams to me,
like my god, if I can it's all to era
pitcher that held it this long. I think you can
get a big return. But you have been saying that
since day one on Andrew Abbitt and it hasn't happened.
That's the Yeah, that's that's the problem. You did two
months ago. It hasn't paid off. But this seems like

(01:17:32):
a fever pitch right now. All right, some other pitchers
and by the way, he is eighty six percent own
Merril Kelly six with three strikeouts, want and run against
Pittsburgh will be traded soon? What if has been good?

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Under?

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
This is the fifty percent guys. Trevor Rodgers versus Colorado
seven innings, five strikeouts, no one runs, one hit. Gavin
Williams six innings, three strikeouts, and Max Schers are only
fifty percent on against Detroit seven innings, three and runs,
eleven strikeouts. Rodgers, Williams or Sureser. Who do you want
rest of season?

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
Williams?

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
I still really like Trevor Rodgers here, but.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
That was in Colorado too, But Colorado's.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Yeah, I'm gonna say Trevor Rodgers here, but it's all close.
It's close to these guys. He's the highest time.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
I mean sure is going to strike out eleven and
he's gonna stay on the field for more than two
innings than great, that's sure. I'm not convinced he's gonna
stay healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
Under fifty percent owned is according Yahoo. Ryan Nelson against
Pittsburgh went six one hit, four strikeouts. Brady Singer seven
to one third against Tampa Bay had eight strikeouts. Jack
Lighter six innings, seven strikeouts, one and a roun on
two hits thirty nine. You least I didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
What are you?

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
May I know Jose Soriano six innings, five strikeouts against
Seattle and Jeffrey Springs six innings, five strikeouts at Houston.
That is forty seven percent to thirty five percent. Pick
two pitchers. Nelson, Singer, Lighter, Soriano.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
Springs, Nelson has been too good to pass up, Yes, sir,
that's one. I think Lighter has been two. I think
Lighter's put together like two or three good starts in
a row. Right, Let's take a look here, two in
a row, because I got him in the last show.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Six in a row. Joe to talk about him. Let's see,
so Jack Lighter has a four ERA right now. His
last couple starts six innings, he had the six inning.
He also went six innings two and in a rouns seven strikeouts,
five and one third, three innings, six strikeouts against Houston,
and then he only went three and two thirds but
only gave up two ear and runs five strikeouts. He's gone,

(01:19:40):
by the way six outings without giving up more than
three earned runs, but two of them he did not
get to five. Right But he also has six or
more strikeouts in four of his last five, So I
kind of agree with you. This team is looking for wins.
Looks like he's turning some of this stuff around. His
walk rate's still high trying to get these strikeouts, but

(01:20:01):
he's putting some pretty good consistency together. So I think
I'm going to I think I'm gonna agree with you.
He's not his fastball's not getting hit his slider. He's
doing a pretty damn good job in his change up
when he's throwing it. Has a thirty five percent with rate.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
He hasn't played any really dud lineups, maybe the Pirates
six starts ago, but you know, the Mariners are a
good team. Six innings, only one run. That was at
home in Texas, then at San Diego, at Houston, at
home against the A's, and against the Braves. So it's
not like he's playing scrub lineups too here. These have
been decent starts.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Come in here, all right. Next grouping Adrian Houser against
the cub six and two thirds, three in a runs,
three strikeouts, Tomajoki Sigano, but against Colorado went six struck
up eight. That's impressive. Kate Horton six and one third,
three strikeouts, four hits, nor in runs against Chicago the
White Sox and Zebie Matthews six innings, seven strikeouts, twenty
one percent, pick up one. Adrian Houser, Horton Sagano Mount.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
You mean Kaid Cad Horton, pitcher for the Cubs. They're
gonna win a bunch of games, that's what I want.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
I might surprise you. I'm gonna say, Howser because he's
got to get good, gotta get traded and go into
a rotation here soon for one of these already. Yeah,
that one of these teams that don't want to pay
up for like a Kelly or whoever that or al Contra.
I would say that Howser can go into a situation
and be an interesting fifth starter, so I'll pick him.
But I would also go Horton as the other one.

(01:21:25):
The last two. Jake Irvin seven with two strikeouts only
seventeen percent on he did that against Minnesota, J T
Gen six or four strikeouts, Stephen Kohlick, Kyle Hendrix. Would
you pick up either any of these four? Because I
don't think I'm super interested.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
No, I mean, Colic has been decent. He's if I
had to pick one, that would.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Be the guy blown save losses. Emmanuel Class probably had
something on his mind. He blew a save two days ago,
will Vess got a loss, and Rys l Iglesias blew
a save. Not great non closer saves. We only had
Tyler Phillips in there, so really not a ton in
the closer market, except that, as we mentioned before, any

(01:22:05):
team that could move off, you should be speculating on
the guy behind. So Cad Smith now is the clearcut guy.
Dylan Lee we've talked about with the Braves, good, rycel Iglesias,
you know the other one. I need to take a
look at who is behind let's take a look Ryan Helsley,
because Hellsley even said he said he gave himself a

(01:22:27):
ninety percent chance to be traded.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
On Jojo Romero one of those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Yeah, well let me look here, let's see it says, yeah,
Mayton Romero looking at the list, probably probably Mayiton because
I guess he's a true eighth inning guy. So that would,
I guess, be the guy you'd want to speculate on.
Maybe go pick up Mayton, So Mayton, Dylan Lee, cad Smith. Clearly,

(01:22:53):
those are the closures you want to take a look at.
Rangers are probably gonna end up adding somebody, so I
don't know, We're gonna We're gonna have to see how
it all shake out. Maybe dennisset Ada, that nar gets traded, Yeah,
Jason adam.

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
Our teams are kicking the tires on Dove all so
maybe Randy Rodriguez.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Potentially, Well if it well, Ryan Walker.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
I would think, oh yeah, yeah, Ryan Walker would be
the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
So those would be the speculative market to kind of
go into. So crazy crazy stuff, all right, friends, That
is our look on the week, breaking down the players
and just a whole bunch of other stuff. We did.
We will have an episode on Thursday after the trade deadline.
We also, by the way, we found out I screwed
it up there our hot take show where the Wings
is the day before, so we will not be struggling

(01:23:38):
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(01:24:00):
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