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June 10, 2025 36 mins

Most artists are experts at expressing emotions, but that doesn’t mean they’ve been taught how to navigate them offstage.

What does it really mean to build emotionally intelligent spaces in the arts?

Zena Collins, one-third of the Inclusive STAGES team, joins me to unpack emotional intelligence as a powerful tool for creative leaders. We discuss how emotions function as data, why most of us aren’t as self-aware as we think, and how assessments like the MSCEIT can reveal surprising insights into how we present ourselves in our work.

From navigating hypervigilance and burnout to rewriting the stories we tell ourselves, this episode is full of practical takeaways and powerful reflections on what it takes to lead with empathy, clarity, and courage.

Enjoy the conversation, friends!

Check out the show notes and resources mentioned at 

https://www.inclusivestages.com/post/what-are-emotionally-intelligent-creative-spaces-with-zena-collins

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Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.


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