We're joined by Jonathan Rauch to discuss what it means to be a radical incrementalist, how to foment revolution on geological timescales, and whether Christianity can be a force for good in politics. Can Jon convince angry-Hitchens-atheist Vaden that Christianity has some benefits? Will both Vaden and Ben be at Sunday prayer?
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We discuss
The constitution of knowledge and whether it's holding
Norms vs laws, and whether we should introduce more laws to codify norms
Popper's paradox of tolerance
How should liberals respond to illiberalism? Which tactics, if any, should democrats adopt from MAGA to fight MAGA?
Sharp Christianity and Christian nationalism
Rauch's plea to Christians
References
The Constitution of Knowledge: A Defense of Truth (https://www.amazon.com/Constitution-Knowledge-Jonathan-Rauch/dp/0815738862)
Cross Purposes: Christianity's Broken Bargain with Democracy (https://www.amazon.com/Cross-Purposes-Christianitys-Bargain-Democracy/dp/0300273541)
Errata
Jonathan Rauch is the author of nine books, not eight!
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