April 20, 2025 • 32 mins
Welcome to this week’s Indie Artist Music hustle with Blonde Intelligence. I am your host, Ms. Roni and I always seek to give you exquisite cranial repertoire. Producer and artist 705 takes us on a fascinating journey through his musical evolution, from his childhood in Lagos, Nigeria to becoming a rising star in London's vibrant music scene. With a sound he describes as "Afrofusion," 705 seamlessly blends hip-hop, R&B, and Afrobeats to create something uniquely personal yet universally appealing.
"It's a fusion of everything," he explains, detailing how Western influences like Biggie Smalls and 112 mesh with African icons like Fela Kuti in his music. This cultural hybridity shines through in tracks like "Filmtrick," where English rap meets Yoruba lyrics over infectious production. What stands out most is 705's commitment to musical authenticity in an increasingly artificial landscape. When discussing the rise of AI in music creation, he stands firm: "The human mind is smarter than AI. AI is supposed to help you, not do it for you."
Throughout our conversation, 705 shares valuable insights about the music industry – from his preference for genuine collaborations over paid features to the evolving importance of visual branding. His business philosophy echoes that of his musical hero 50 Cent, focusing on longevity and authentic storytelling. "Music should have a purpose," he insists. "You shouldn't just make noise in people's ears."
As 705 prepares to release new summer-ready tracks that further explore his Afrofusion sound with Yoruba rap elements, it's clear we're witnessing an artist who honors his roots while boldly pushing forward. Find his music on all streaming platforms under "705" and follow his journey on social media @705beats.
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, welcome to this week's Indie Artist Music
Hustle with Blonde Intelligence.
I'm your host, ms Ronnie, whereI always seek to give you
exquisite cranial repertoire.
This week we have producer andartist 705, originally from
Logos, nigeria, now located inthe UK.
(00:47):
Am I correct?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yes, you are, you're very right.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay, so what we're going to do is start off with
letting you tell everyone alittle bit about yourself.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Okay, well, my name is 705.
I'm a recording artist based inLondon.
Like you clearly said, I wasborn in Lagos, nigeria.
I came here when I was about 11, studied going to music in
college excuse me, going tomusic in college and I've just
been making music ever since.
So I produce music hip hop, r&b, afrobeat, different genre and
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also me myself.
I'm an artist as well, so Irecord both Afro rap and rap,
hip hop rap, english rap andalso Afro beats as well on the
side.
So I just I try to do music thebest way I can, really using my
influences mainly.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Okay, you said that you do different genres of music
.
From interviewing severalindependent music artists and
reading about different trends.
That's going on.
A lot of artists are now comingup with their own genre, naming
their own job.
So what would you actually nameyour genre of music?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
well, I don't even know what to call it.
I think there's a name already.
I'll just say Afrofusion,because it's literally a fusion
of everything, like the Westerninfluences, the African
influences, everything cominginto one.
It's a fusion.
Let's be real.
I grew up off hip-hop music andR&B music.
Things like Biggie Smallsyou're looking at people like
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112, boyz II Men I mean myauntie, those are the people you
should listen to.
So I grew up off hip-hop andR&B.
So there's a lot of fusion ofhip-hop R&B mixed in with the
Afro beats, because growing upin Nigeria, there are people
like King Sonia.
They felt like Kuti as well.
So it's just a blend ofeverything.
Literally that my music is.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Because I listen to the two songs that I guess it's
your publicist sent, but theywere.
I like both of them.
They were both different fromeach other, I mean like totally.
But the one about what is itFilmmaker?
What was the name of it?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Filmtrick.
It was more of a rap, soFilmtrick.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I like that.
I was like okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Filmtrick.
I will thank you so much,filmtrick.
We actually we finished thatthis year.
I started the chorus to it likethree, four years ago, so then
I started and it was just I hadan artist from Nigeria who's got
a bit of following in Nigeria.
He came over and he was likelisten, I like this track, I'd
love to jump on it.
And, as you said, it'sliterally that, because you
could hear the hip hop elementof it in there as well, and then
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you could.
My boy is speaking Yoruba, sothere's that african a mixture
too as well.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So, yeah, it's literally that what well, I read
your bio and it gave.
I'm glad that you mentionedsome other artists and he was
talking about the influences andhe was like big and small, uh,
two pot, who are your influencesin today's hip-hop culture, in
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today's?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
hip-hop culture In today's hip-hop culture, like
today's music artists puttingmusic out today.
I don't have any influence overany of them.
I won't lie to you.
If I was to say okay in the2000s, I would say 50 Cent,
that's my main influence.
Okay, I like his rawness, I likehis realness, I like how he
says it, how it is.
That's one thing I like abouthim and that just shows like to
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always stand on your ground.
I really like that about himand the fact that let's be real,
his album dropped, gary Todddied trying and I was sold.
He literally broke records andthat really stands out for me
being like coming out fromnothing and literally making a
name for himself.
I mean, people wish them deadand, yes, it's hard for us
coming out of the office, butthat's the main thing Like
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someone was, he was meant to bedead and he actually came back
and made a name for himself.
That's something that reallyinspires me.
And, like I said, you look athis movies.
Now I was looking today.
He was on his page.
He was talking about his G inhis studios.
He just G-Unit Studios.
They just bought a wholelanding chef report to actually
what's called start making filmsand it just kept growing and I
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like how it grew out.
He branded himself, branchedhimself out.
When G-Unit started he's one ofthe first.
I mean Reebok was with them,always did people, but when he
did the G-Unit Reebok heliterally blew.
So merchandise he's just abusinessman, apart from music,
because, let's be real, music issomething we're gonna do to a
certain degree.
You thought you do what.
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What is really in you andthat's what you do.
And in artistry, when you talkabout rapping and making music
as well, it 50 does influence mebecause when you look at
storytelling, it's chorus, ishis verses.
There's no if the verse isdifferent from the chorus.
You know these days you havechoruses and the verse has got
nothing to do with the choruses.
So that's the kind of thing.
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So 50 is a big influence andtwo pack is another one of that,
because two pack is the samething storytelling, and those
are what really influences memusic, I believe music.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
So you believe in traditional hip-hop?
Yeah, I believe music shouldhave that.
It needs to have a purpose.
Yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You shouldn't just make music for the sake of
making music.
Just make noise in people'sears.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I mean Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
So you sound like a true artist.
Now are you a musician?
Because I know that you are aproducer and some people who are
producers don't necessarilyplay an instrument, but they
produce music.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
What we're doing.
Music is something that I don'tknow if witchcraft is the word,
but it's something that we'regiving people, we're sharing it
with people and they're going toconstantly repeat that.
So it's always good to putsomething out there that could
really inspire people.
That's what I believe, and evendown to the music I make,
nowadays, when you look at musicthat's really prominent, music
that lasts long, music thatstands for a while.
It has a meaning, somethingbehind.
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It's not just anything.
And then I did.
I had a few time where I went toguitar lessons but I couldn't
get my head around it.
I went, I went to piano as well.
Don't get me wrong, when I'mmaking beats.
I could make a beat fromscratch, like use a keyboard,
play little melodies aroundthere, but to tell me to not sit
down and play you Beethoven,some different piano, some
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melodies play you.
No, I can't.
I can't do that.
I could play the simplest ofmelodies.
Melodies I could probably playtwinkle, twinkle little stars or
something like that, but I'mnot.
I wouldn't say I'm a musicianin that term.
But yeah, I'm a producer interms of I could listen to sound
.
I'm like, yeah, that soundworks.
Let's put it together with thisa lot lately.
Even I stopped producing forlike three years or so and I
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just got back to it.
And now that I'm back to, themain reason why I stopped is
that is the fact that I couldmake beat-pull drums, but the
melodies I couldn't get the bestout of my melodies.
Recently one of my friends camearound and he started producing
and he started using somecosplays and it had a lot of
samples and I was like, wait, Icould just get melodies using
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that.
So I started using a lot ofsamples and things like that,
because before I used to believeusing samples is not as a
producer no, you're not aproducer, you're not making it
from scratch.
But then someone was like it'syour sound, you're putting it
together, but it's art.
Exactly, that's what someoneshowed me, that's what someone
said to me and that made melearn that, wow, you've been
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thinking backwards and that'swhat I just go into and now use
samples, use other things, butin terms of music, nah, I could
play the basics and piano, but Idon't call myself a musician in
terms of instruments okay, whatdo you think about visuals?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
how important are they?
As being an artist, I mean, andI mean in every, every aspect,
such as you're going to go outto this restaurant, you know
people are going to takepictures, you're going to go to
this event, and then you knowyou've got to drop here and then
even down to your stylist, andhow you present your videos.
(08:59):
What do you think about visuals?
How important are they?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I think it's very important.
To be honest before, if youasked me like three, four years
ago, I'd be like whatever,whatever, just do it.
But to step up, but, um,growing in this music game, I
believe is very important.
When you look at artists, youlook at such them, social pages
and things like that.
There's a way to carrythemselves, their looks,
everything.
So it's very important becauseyou don't know who's going to
see you my mom.
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Something came to my head thismorning because I was like my
grandma used to say something tome rest, rest her soul.
She was like before you leavethe house, tidy your house, come
in with you when you're comingback home.
And it's the same thing whenyou're going.
Now, you don't know who's goingto see you.
As an artist you are andeverything you're a brand you're
.
Every.
Every time someone sees you,they, they, they affiliate your
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name to you.
So it's a thing where they seethat, oh yeah, it doesn't look
so good, yeah, so everything'simportant, which is something
that even myself I've beenlooking at a lot lately.
That's why I did my hair, allthis other thing.
You don't know who's gonna seeyou.
You don't know anything couldhappen anytime.
So image is always important.
That's why I believe visuals isimportant in terms of now.
If we go to things like musicvideos, I didn't used to think
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of it a lot.
It's like yo, whatever,whatever, and you look at in the
world we live in, it's content.
If you put right now and youjust put a post up, people see
it.
But then if you take that samething and then you make into a
reel, into a video or content.
You see that more people areengaged with it.
It's really important.
Image, how you carry yourself,visuals is really important.
People being able to see you,being being able to really like,
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click with you, is reallyimportant.
And it's crazy.
We say this because I waslooking at something on youtube
the other day and it says aboutartistry.
He's like it's not just aboutmaking music, no more, which for
me, is crazy because I'm notsomeone to jump on instagram or
tiktok and just start talking.
Anyhow, what I'm gonna post ismy music, right, but there's
visuals.
You have to.
It's not just about the music,no more.
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People want to see you, peoplewant to get to know you, people
want to know what you're aboutand that's all the visuals.
I think visual is veryimportant.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yes, yeah, because you it's actually you're
branding yourself.
You're creating a persona andbranding yourself.
So what do you think about thephrase all publicity is good
publicity, even bad publicity um, I used to be like that as well
(11:22):
.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Good publicity, publicity, even bad publicity is
good, but not really is it.
Let's look at Diddy.
Was the publicity again goodfor him?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Not at this very time .
I don't think that it's workingin his favor, exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And then if we go back to MJ and Michael Jackson,
those things that were comingout by him is kind of the things
that start bringing thisdownfall.
So people say things like goodpublicity, bad publicity don't
matter, but then, in the wrongplace, a bad publicity to go end
your career.
I mean, you had, um, I forgotjohnny depp, I forgot his
girlfriend's name where theywent to court I can't remember
(11:57):
her name either, but yeah butnow apparently she lives in
spain.
She's had to do her owncosmetic surgery to look
different.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So do you think that that phrase is outdated,
Considering when people saidthat there was?
No, I don't even think MySpaceat the time.
Do you remember MySpace?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I remember MySpace.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That was like the first like big social media
platform before Facebook, beforeInstagram, before Twitter and
then even now.
I feel like YouTube is becomingmore.
You don't have to just postvideos.
You can post shorts, you canpost pictures, you can leave
messages, you can do all thesethings.
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So I think for me that it mightbe a little outdated,
considering even the normalperson walking down the street
may see you and video you doinganything, like the guy that was
at the olympics or some game andgot caught eating boogers.
(13:02):
Nobody will really payattention to something like that
, but you know, everybody canrecord now yes, that's true, and
that's and that's what makes mescared is like exactly what you
said.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Everybody can record, so image is important because
you step outside, the wrongperson records you and that's it
.
You're done.
And we live in a world wherecomments judging people are
ready to comment and slanderyour name.
And even when posts are up nowlet's be real a lot of people
don't just watch the post,they're reading the comments.
Yeah, we're reading thecomments.
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Everybody wants to laugh.
So there's that happening.
So, yes, it's very like.
I think that I agree with you.
It's very much outdated.
I don't believe every publicityis good publicity.
You have to be really cautious,because everybody's looking for
whatever would bring andtraffic to their page and if
it's you that's going to betheir tag on that day, so it is.
(13:57):
So would it be?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I mean, I did a show once or it might have been when
I wrote a blog, I can't rememberabout content creators
considering themselvesjournalists.
As an artist, and when you goto different I would say
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platforms, does it matter to youwhether or not they're
considered a journalist or acontent creator?
And I'm going to use thisexample the Casanat guy.
He is not a journalist but he'sa content creator.
But a lot of artists go to himbecause of his audience size.
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So when you're actually lookingto get your brand out there,
are you, as an artist, lookingfor a journalist or are you
looking for a content creator?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
It's crazy.
You say that I think ajournalist is kind of important,
to be honest, because theperson that contacted you is a
journalist, I believe um, and Iwent to her first because I know
she could get my music intosame places on different places
in terms of online and internet.
But then there is I did messmessage one of my other friends
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where she's a dancer and she'sgot a lot of following and I'm
he posted.
A lot of people will see.
So it depends on what you'retrying to get really and truly
when we say influencers.
Influencers are just based onthe social media.
They're just going to post andwhoever follows them will follow
and then they do what they wantto do and then that's it,
whereas a journalist, yeah,maybe they're still on social
media as well, but they will gofurther.
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They would do the homework,send the emails and do.
I believe those are importanttoo, because there's only um.
With social media, everythinghas a limit, you know.
I mean, like people that aredancing and following the
influencer that you posted,they're only gonna dance at that
point and that's it.
If the influencer is notposting your song more than once
, more than three times of herdancing, it's probably if she
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posted just once, it's notreally that important.
Kai says they're not following,so he's in for for for the for
the arts.
Hip-hop is.
It's kind of like importantpeople like I think there's
another one, ross or somethingthey go to them because when
they do go to these guys theirviews go up, everything goes up,
because the young children areall watching them and that's how
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they gain that audience.
It helps them that know.
But then with that they wouldhave other things they're doing
on the side.
I don't believe they would justgo to Kai and he is just like
we said um, if it's tiktok, it'stiktok.
If it's youtube, it's youtubeand that's what it ends, I
believe.
So I think a journalist is moreimportant because of a
journalist you're able to domore, whereas an influencer is
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just the influence on that pageand that's it.
And with the influence is morebased on the following.
So you're looking at thefollowing, whereas a journalist
it doesn't really matter aboutfollowing.
If they have to connect, theyhave to connect.
They'll get your song to theright places and it will go.
And some journalists don't evenhave a following.
Some journalists probably haveunder a follower, but the power
behind them is different.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I think that people need to take more time with the
quality instead of the quantity,so tell me how do you feel
about collaborations?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Collaborations.
I'm always for it To be honest.
Before I would just collab withanybody, but I've learned that
I have to be more cautious withmy collab.
So, like you said, film Trick,the one you like.
The track you said you like isa collab with one of my friends.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I like the other one too, nano, don't just make it
seem like it's the only one Ithink that one was vibe with me,
I think.
Yeah, I like that one too,because I was like, yeah, I can
see the answer to my honey withthis.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
That one right there really took me by surprise.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Thank you, I appreciate that.
No, thank you, it's good toknow.
No, I know you like BoobooPoint, it's just because that's
a collab.
So what happened was he camefrom Nigeria and I was like you
know what?
I need to work with someone.
People are always telling me oh, you need to work with someone
that's got following, you needto do this, you need to do.
I'm always like I believe thatif I have to pay someone to jump
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on my track, that's the end ofit.
It's not making sense.
I understand it is musicbusiness.
At some point, like one way, toa level where we are, we could
start paying people wherever.
But where I'm at, if I have tolook for an artist that's blown
and pay him, it don't make senseto me because from what I know
in in the Nigerian scene, you'regonna pay them to write and
jump on your track when it'stime for you to make the music
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video.
They they charge you as well toshow up to the music video.
This is Nigerian artist and soall of them like no.
So that's why I don't look atit no more.
So I really work with peoplethat generally want to work with
me collab, collab, wise, andthen that's how I do my
collaboration.
I believe collaboration is goodbecause it allows you to be
able to get their other artistaudience, get their audience and
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they are able to actually diginto your audience as well and
get some feedback from your sideas well.
That cross, what do you call it?
Cross, promotion, cross,networking I don't know what the
word is, but I think that'sreally good and it's really
beneficial, and not just as anartist producer as well.
I have a friend of mine that wedid a song too bad, but then he
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went off, came back recently andhe's like I need to work on a
track and me and him just satdown like you know what, let's
work on this together.
And he started making a bit nowwe're out at the drum, out at a
couple of things and before youknow it, he came back.
He actually left the track tome, came back.
I deleted some of one or twothings.
I'm like what do you think?
He's like yeah, yeah, and wemade a track, a new song that
really sounds good.
It will be out soon.
But that's another part,because you learn from other
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people.
We always look at it like, oh,I know everything, but it's good
to share knowledge thing, theresult is different.
So I believe collaboration is agreat thing.
You cannot you cannot doeverything by yourself.
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There's a saying like what doyou call it?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
one, one tree cannot cause a wildfire, so you need
people around you to make ithappen.
Okay, so what do you thinkabout ai collaborations?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
someone came to me the other day.
Actually, I said what did theysay?
They were like, ah, seven theywere.
It was.
It was an artist was with me.
I was talking to his girlfriendthe friend, the girlfriend's
phone was on the phone, she wasall rapping and I'm like what's
going on?
She's like, yeah, she's usingai to get our lyrics and
everything like that.
I'm like wow, to me that's notauthentic.
I can't do that I can't do thatbecause I feel like.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I feel like the human mind is smarter than ai.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Ai is supposed to help you, not do it for you
exactly, exactly so, going to anai to write your lyrics and
things like that.
I'm not interested in nothinglike that Because, apart from
that, people listen to yourmusic for your experience, your
own thing.
So why would you tell thecomputer Like there's a lot of
lies, there's a lot of things?
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Now that people do, music hasbecome less genuine.
Yeah, that's how I see it,because you have a lot of people
that's using ai.
Now some music actually isactually ai that's doing the
recording as well.
So, and it makes it hard forother people, but I believe the
connectivity, the being realwith people, that's what's
really important.
When people come to your shows,they want to know you for you,
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not for what a computer hasgenerated and written, don't get
wrong when it comes to like, ifI'm to write press release or
meant to write a word document,I'll call chat jptr.
We need to do that, but in termsof my lyrics, making my music,
I don't need it.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I know okay what about artists who write for
other artists?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
um, that's a crazy one.
You just picked it.
But with that I don't.
To be honest, I used to think,nah, nah, you should write for
yourself.
But I don't think there'sanything wrong with it, you can.
The reason I say that is whenwe say write for other artists
like I've been in that kind ofsituation A lot of people think,
oh, someone is sitting therewriting for you every time.
They're writing for you everytime.
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For example, I was in a studioa long time ago with one of my
colleagues and one of my friendsand I was making a beat and I
was like, yeah, do this.
I was trying to do something.
I was like, no, no, no, no, no,why don't you do this?
So he actually changed mystructure of how I was going to
sing the song.
So he's changed the melody.
So in a way, that's kind oflike songwriting as well,
because this made me move awayfrom what I had in my head and
I'm doing what he's saying.
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So there's that aspect of it.
I believe songwriting is good.
It could help.
It shouldn't be anything whereyou're always going to someone
to write your song for you,because you lose your touch and
even if someone is writing yoursong.
You should still be togetherwith them and have that
influence to still have you init.
That's what I believe, but Idon't think there's anything
wrong in terms of Drake uses ita lot from what I heard, but I
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don't use it.
But I think it's something thatcould be useful.
There's nothing wrong withhaving songwriters, but always
remember that the songwriter isone that eats the most.
You only make your money backfrom performing.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
And the publisher I know you understand what and the
publisher.
You understand what made methink of that is.
I remember Ja Rule doing aninterview.
It may not have been aninterview, it may have been
doing the verses, I can'tremember, but I know that Ja
Rule said that the collaborationthat he did with Jay-Z he was
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like I wrote his verse for him.
So the reason why I ask thesetypes of questions is because in
that situation I don't thinkthat he necessarily needed
Jay-Z's pen.
He just wanted his actual voice.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
And I don't see the difference in I'm looking for
this sound right here.
I need you to do this BecauseI've talked to different people
who would collaborate withdifferent people across the
world, especially when COVID hit, and they were trying to find
creative ways to still be ableto collaborate.
And they were trying to findcreative ways to still be able
to collaborate and they haddifferent programs that people
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would get in, because I know, ifI'm saying it right, I think it
was called Band Lab orsomething where you could go in
and collab with different people, and they have met some really
accomplished people doing that.
I'm just thinking that, evenwith AI, if you know you're
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looking for a particular soundand you searched and searched
and searched and can't find it,what's wrong with creating?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
There's nothing wrong with creating.
I don't think there's anythingwrong with it, and that's what
producing is really and truly.
Producing is about hearingsounds that you like, and we're
creating them most of the time.
I mean music production.
When you go to music production, I mean that's what I learned
when I was in college.
I learned music technology andit's all about sound.
Let's be honest.
I said it to someone if youlisten to most other songs
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that's hits and the main like wesay, they're hits and stuff you
find similar sounds in some ofthem and it's because someone
has heard that song and theysaid, yeah, I'm gonna replicate
that and bring it onto mine.
I don't think okay.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
so what do you think about?
I don't know if it's just onlywith an app on, but you can get
all these different apps on yourphones where you can create
beats, you can make your voicesound like this and you can all
of so if a person will put thattogether with having business
sense, do you think that thosetypes of apps cheapen the music?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Now that you say that in a way it kind of does, and
that's it kind of does in a way.
But then it allows people to becreative as well.
There's that aspect of it.
It gives people to theirability to be creative.
I mean some people that neverthought, oh, I could do music.
Those are the things that getthem into the studio.
That's how they started like,oh, I could do that.
Oh, let me go to studio, let metry make something happen.
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So I mean I've had a man, soit's called.
You know if I was working at PCWorld and a man created his own
album in his car?
I've heard that before.
There's a lot of technologiesnow that makes life easy for
people, and I cannot, to behonest, I cannot fault people
for how they want to do whatthey want to do in terms of
their music.
How we get to the finish lineis going to be different for
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everybody, but it's just aboutstaying grounded in how you do
your own thing, cause there'salways going to be new things
every day.
I mean, the main craziness isthe AI Now, literally, you could
just type and then someonecould be sounding like Tupac.
That's what's crazy.
That is that one there I'm notagreeing with it's like it's
wrong, cause anybody could sayyou said something you didn't
say.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I saw that years ago I was watching CNN and they had
at that time it was PresidentObama and they had four videos
of him and they was like can youpick out the one that's real?
And they all look real and noneof them were real.
(27:13):
So, yeah, and so when you thinkabout you working so hard to
build this brand, and somethingas simple as AI can bring
everything that you don't workso hard for down were down.
Do you think that there shouldbe more restrictions and laws on
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the use of AI, especially whenyou're dealing with because
you're a public figure, it'smore that you have to endure,
but do you think that thereshould be more restrictions on
those types of things if you'reconsidered a public figure?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I think, yeah, even apart from public figure, I
think there should just be somekind of protection on it,
because, let's be real, peoplecould use someone else's details
to get something that is not,and then the person would get in
trouble.
I work as a warrant officer, soto say.
When I say warrant officer, I'mnot like Bailey for anything.
I go to people's houses and Itry to speak to them, to play
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the decks and things like that.
So when I get to some houses,people don't even know the name
they're like listen, I've beenliving here for 50 years.
That name has never shown up onmy house, that house name has
never shown up here.
And when you look at things likeit's going back to things like
chat, gpt and things like that,people could literally create,
like you said, create someone'sidentity to be able to get
something, and the person thatthat that is the person don't
(28:38):
know nothing about it.
Way from artists.
As a normal, as a normal person, we need to do, um, we need to
do better to protect people,because I think it's very
dangerous to me.
I just feel it's very dangerous.
It could get a lot of people introuble.
I don't know nothing and it'scrazy.
And even now you have thisthing of mask where people
there's a same type of maskwhere you could put on and you
look like someone else the way.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
It's crazy, I'm telling you look, makeup artists
can do that.
You could change your wig, uh,change your beard color.
You can put on makeup that canchange your skin color.
I mean, you can really becomesomeone else.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
So it's crazy.
So I think you're right.
There should definitely be lawson, not just for someone that
has influence, but just even anormal person.
I think everybody should beprotected to a certain degree,
because the way AI is going, itcould be very dangerous for
people.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Okay, do you think your music transcends to the
states?
My music, your music.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I mean, I check things like my TikTok, spotify
artist, youtube artist and I seea few American countries.
Like I was looking at mytargeting and I've been
targeting a lot of places likeZionsville, los Angeles, new
York, new York.
Yes, I've seen a few peoplelisten to my music from the
States.
Yes, I could say that, but Ijust want to.
(30:05):
I'm looking at ways to make itgrow more and get people to
listen to my music mainly, but,yeah, I think I do have a few
people that listen to me in theStates.
So, yes, I'm someone that I'mable to collaborate with people
in other countries and work withpeople in other places.
I mean, I was born in Nigeria.
Like I said, I came here when Iwas 11.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, that's not an issue for me working with people
that are living somewhere elseor moving to tell everybody how
they can find your music, anylast words that you might have,
anything about 705, like how hegot his name or what.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
I'll tell you that.
Well, first of all, let me tellyou how I find my name, my name
.
So my actual name is TosinT-O-S-I-N.
The seven is a T and the O iszero.
S-5, t-o-s.
Tos oh okay, t and the o, zeros five.
T or s?
(30:59):
Tus, oh okay, but there's moreto it.
So my mom has seven kids.
Okay, I'm out of those seven.
I'm the fifth born, seven, fiveout of seven kind of thing, but
put the other way around.
So that's the other aspect ofit.
So that's how my name comeabout.
My music you could literallyfind it everywhere, just
literally 705 spotify, youtube,um, itunes, anyway, 705 social
media.
I go by 705 beats, which is 705b-e-a-t-s.
(31:22):
Bravo, echo, alpha, tango,sierra.
So 705 beats and yeah, that'sit.
I've got new music coming out.
I've got a song that I thinkyou guys will love.
It's's a fusion of Afro.
I'm really going into Afro withit.
I've got some rapping in Yorubaas well.
So there's that Afro rap fusionagain, and I think it's going
(31:43):
to be a real summer vibe.
I should have dropped it when Iwent in April.
Summer is basically here, soI'm working on it.
So, yeah, that's me.
Bye me and thank you foractually having me here.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
It's been a real vibe and I've learned a lot.
Well, I'm glad that you came.
Remember, you can find IndieArtist Music Hustle with Blonde
Intelligence on all podcastplatforms.
You can catch us on socialmedia and you can copy and merge
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Hello, welcome to this week's Indie Artist Music
Hustle with Blonde Intelligence.
I'm your host, ms Ronnie, whereI always seek to give you
exquisite cranial repertoire.
This week we have producer andartist 705, originally from
Logos, nigeria, now located inthe UK.
(00:47):
Am I correct?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yes, you are, you're very right.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay, so what we're going to do is start off with
letting you tell everyone alittle bit about yourself.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Okay, well, my name is 705.
I'm a recording artist based inLondon.
Like you clearly said, I wasborn in Lagos, nigeria.
I came here when I was about 11, studied going to music in
college excuse me, going tomusic in college and I've just
been making music ever since.
So I produce music hip hop, r&b, afrobeat, different genre and
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also me myself.
I'm an artist as well, so Irecord both Afro rap and rap,
hip hop rap, english rap andalso Afro beats as well on the
side.
So I just I try to do music thebest way I can, really using my
influences mainly.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Okay, you said that you do different genres of music
.
From interviewing severalindependent music artists and
reading about different trends.
That's going on.
A lot of artists are now comingup with their own genre, naming
their own job.
So what would you actually nameyour genre of music?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
well, I don't even know what to call it.
I think there's a name already.
I'll just say Afrofusion,because it's literally a fusion
of everything, like the Westerninfluences, the African
influences, everything cominginto one.
It's a fusion.
Let's be real.
I grew up off hip-hop music andR&B music.
Things like Biggie Smallsyou're looking at people like
(02:26):
112, boyz II Men I mean myauntie, those are the people you
should listen to.
So I grew up off hip-hop andR&B.
So there's a lot of fusion ofhip-hop R&B mixed in with the
Afro beats, because growing upin Nigeria, there are people
like King Sonia.
They felt like Kuti as well.
So it's just a blend ofeverything.
Literally that my music is.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Because I listen to the two songs that I guess it's
your publicist sent, but theywere.
I like both of them.
They were both different fromeach other, I mean like totally.
But the one about what is itFilmmaker?
What was the name of it?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Filmtrick.
It was more of a rap, soFilmtrick.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I like that.
I was like okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Filmtrick.
I will thank you so much,filmtrick.
We actually we finished thatthis year.
I started the chorus to it likethree, four years ago, so then
I started and it was just I hadan artist from Nigeria who's got
a bit of following in Nigeria.
He came over and he was likelisten, I like this track, I'd
love to jump on it.
And, as you said, it'sliterally that, because you
could hear the hip hop elementof it in there as well, and then
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you could.
My boy is speaking Yoruba, sothere's that african a mixture
too as well.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So, yeah, it's literally that what well, I read
your bio and it gave.
I'm glad that you mentionedsome other artists and he was
talking about the influences andhe was like big and small, uh,
two pot, who are your influencesin today's hip-hop culture, in
(04:04):
today's?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
hip-hop culture In today's hip-hop culture, like
today's music artists puttingmusic out today.
I don't have any influence overany of them.
I won't lie to you.
If I was to say okay in the2000s, I would say 50 Cent,
that's my main influence.
Okay, I like his rawness, I likehis realness, I like how he
says it, how it is.
That's one thing I like abouthim and that just shows like to
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always stand on your ground.
I really like that about himand the fact that let's be real,
his album dropped, gary Todddied trying and I was sold.
He literally broke records andthat really stands out for me
being like coming out fromnothing and literally making a
name for himself.
I mean, people wish them deadand, yes, it's hard for us
coming out of the office, butthat's the main thing Like
(04:48):
someone was, he was meant to bedead and he actually came back
and made a name for himself.
That's something that reallyinspires me.
And, like I said, you look athis movies.
Now I was looking today.
He was on his page.
He was talking about his G inhis studios.
He just G-Unit Studios.
They just bought a wholelanding chef report to actually
what's called start making filmsand it just kept growing and I
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like how it grew out.
He branded himself, branchedhimself out.
When G-Unit started he's one ofthe first.
I mean Reebok was with them,always did people, but when he
did the G-Unit Reebok heliterally blew.
So merchandise he's just abusinessman, apart from music,
because, let's be real, music issomething we're gonna do to a
certain degree.
You thought you do what.
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What is really in you andthat's what you do.
And in artistry, when you talkabout rapping and making music
as well, it 50 does influence mebecause when you look at
storytelling, it's chorus, ishis verses.
There's no if the verse isdifferent from the chorus.
You know these days you havechoruses and the verse has got
nothing to do with the choruses.
So that's the kind of thing.
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So 50 is a big influence andtwo pack is another one of that,
because two pack is the samething storytelling, and those
are what really influences memusic, I believe music.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
So you believe in traditional hip-hop?
Yeah, I believe music shouldhave that.
It needs to have a purpose.
Yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You shouldn't just make music for the sake of
making music.
Just make noise in people'sears.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I mean Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
So you sound like a true artist.
Now are you a musician?
Because I know that you are aproducer and some people who are
producers don't necessarilyplay an instrument, but they
produce music.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
What we're doing.
Music is something that I don'tknow if witchcraft is the word,
but it's something that we'regiving people, we're sharing it
with people and they're going toconstantly repeat that.
So it's always good to putsomething out there that could
really inspire people.
That's what I believe, and evendown to the music I make,
nowadays, when you look at musicthat's really prominent, music
that lasts long, music thatstands for a while.
It has a meaning, somethingbehind.
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It's not just anything.
And then I did.
I had a few time where I went toguitar lessons but I couldn't
get my head around it.
I went, I went to piano as well.
Don't get me wrong, when I'mmaking beats.
I could make a beat fromscratch, like use a keyboard,
play little melodies aroundthere, but to tell me to not sit
down and play you Beethoven,some different piano, some
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melodies play you.
No, I can't.
I can't do that.
I could play the simplest ofmelodies.
Melodies I could probably playtwinkle, twinkle little stars or
something like that, but I'mnot.
I wouldn't say I'm a musicianin that term.
But yeah, I'm a producer interms of I could listen to sound
.
I'm like, yeah, that soundworks.
Let's put it together with thisa lot lately.
Even I stopped producing forlike three years or so and I
(07:40):
just got back to it.
And now that I'm back to, themain reason why I stopped is
that is the fact that I couldmake beat-pull drums, but the
melodies I couldn't get the bestout of my melodies.
Recently one of my friends camearound and he started producing
and he started using somecosplays and it had a lot of
samples and I was like, wait, Icould just get melodies using
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that.
So I started using a lot ofsamples and things like that,
because before I used to believeusing samples is not as a
producer no, you're not aproducer, you're not making it
from scratch.
But then someone was like it'syour sound, you're putting it
together, but it's art.
Exactly, that's what someoneshowed me, that's what someone
said to me and that made melearn that, wow, you've been
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thinking backwards and that'swhat I just go into and now use
samples, use other things, butin terms of music, nah, I could
play the basics and piano, but Idon't call myself a musician in
terms of instruments okay, whatdo you think about visuals?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
how important are they?
As being an artist, I mean, andI mean in every, every aspect,
such as you're going to go outto this restaurant, you know
people are going to takepictures, you're going to go to
this event, and then you knowyou've got to drop here and then
even down to your stylist, andhow you present your videos.
(08:59):
What do you think about visuals?
How important are they?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I think it's very important.
To be honest before, if youasked me like three, four years
ago, I'd be like whatever,whatever, just do it.
But to step up, but, um,growing in this music game, I
believe is very important.
When you look at artists, youlook at such them, social pages
and things like that.
There's a way to carrythemselves, their looks,
everything.
So it's very important becauseyou don't know who's going to
see you my mom.
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Something came to my head thismorning because I was like my
grandma used to say something tome rest, rest her soul.
She was like before you leavethe house, tidy your house, come
in with you when you're comingback home.
And it's the same thing whenyou're going.
Now, you don't know who's goingto see you.
As an artist you are andeverything you're a brand you're
.
Every.
Every time someone sees you,they, they, they affiliate your
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name to you.
So it's a thing where they seethat, oh yeah, it doesn't look
so good, yeah, so everything'simportant, which is something
that even myself I've beenlooking at a lot lately.
That's why I did my hair, allthis other thing.
You don't know who's gonna seeyou.
You don't know anything couldhappen anytime.
So image is always important.
That's why I believe visuals isimportant in terms of now.
If we go to things like musicvideos, I didn't used to think
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of it a lot.
It's like yo, whatever,whatever, and you look at in the
world we live in, it's content.
If you put right now and youjust put a post up, people see
it.
But then if you take that samething and then you make into a
reel, into a video or content.
You see that more people areengaged with it.
It's really important.
Image, how you carry yourself,visuals is really important.
People being able to see you,being being able to really like,
(10:31):
click with you, is reallyimportant.
And it's crazy.
We say this because I waslooking at something on youtube
the other day and it says aboutartistry.
He's like it's not just aboutmaking music, no more, which for
me, is crazy because I'm notsomeone to jump on instagram or
tiktok and just start talking.
Anyhow, what I'm gonna post ismy music, right, but there's
visuals.
You have to.
It's not just about the music,no more.
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People want to see you, peoplewant to get to know you, people
want to know what you're aboutand that's all the visuals.
I think visual is veryimportant.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yes, yeah, because you it's actually you're
branding yourself.
You're creating a persona andbranding yourself.
So what do you think about thephrase all publicity is good
publicity, even bad publicity um, I used to be like that as well
(11:22):
.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Good publicity, publicity, even bad publicity is
good, but not really is it.
Let's look at Diddy.
Was the publicity again goodfor him?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Not at this very time .
I don't think that it's workingin his favor, exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And then if we go back to MJ and Michael Jackson,
those things that were comingout by him is kind of the things
that start bringing thisdownfall.
So people say things like goodpublicity, bad publicity don't
matter, but then, in the wrongplace, a bad publicity to go end
your career.
I mean, you had, um, I forgotjohnny depp, I forgot his
girlfriend's name where theywent to court I can't remember
(11:57):
her name either, but yeah butnow apparently she lives in
spain.
She's had to do her owncosmetic surgery to look
different.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So do you think that that phrase is outdated,
Considering when people saidthat there was?
No, I don't even think MySpaceat the time.
Do you remember MySpace?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I remember MySpace.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That was like the first like big social media
platform before Facebook, beforeInstagram, before Twitter and
then even now.
I feel like YouTube is becomingmore.
You don't have to just postvideos.
You can post shorts, you canpost pictures, you can leave
messages, you can do all thesethings.
(12:42):
So I think for me that it mightbe a little outdated,
considering even the normalperson walking down the street
may see you and video you doinganything, like the guy that was
at the olympics or some game andgot caught eating boogers.
(13:02):
Nobody will really payattention to something like that
, but you know, everybody canrecord now yes, that's true, and
that's and that's what makes mescared is like exactly what you
said.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Everybody can record, so image is important because
you step outside, the wrongperson records you and that's it
.
You're done.
And we live in a world wherecomments judging people are
ready to comment and slanderyour name.
And even when posts are up nowlet's be real a lot of people
don't just watch the post,they're reading the comments.
Yeah, we're reading thecomments.
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Everybody wants to laugh.
So there's that happening.
So, yes, it's very like.
I think that I agree with you.
It's very much outdated.
I don't believe every publicityis good publicity.
You have to be really cautious,because everybody's looking for
whatever would bring andtraffic to their page and if
it's you that's going to betheir tag on that day, so it is.
(13:57):
So would it be?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I mean, I did a show once or it might have been when
I wrote a blog, I can't rememberabout content creators
considering themselvesjournalists.
As an artist, and when you goto different I would say
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platforms, does it matter to youwhether or not they're
considered a journalist or acontent creator?
And I'm going to use thisexample the Casanat guy.
He is not a journalist but he'sa content creator.
But a lot of artists go to himbecause of his audience size.
(14:43):
So when you're actually lookingto get your brand out there,
are you, as an artist, lookingfor a journalist or are you
looking for a content creator?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
It's crazy.
You say that I think ajournalist is kind of important,
to be honest, because theperson that contacted you is a
journalist, I believe um, and Iwent to her first because I know
she could get my music intosame places on different places
in terms of online and internet.
But then there is I did messmessage one of my other friends
(15:19):
where she's a dancer and she'sgot a lot of following and I'm
he posted.
A lot of people will see.
So it depends on what you'retrying to get really and truly
when we say influencers.
Influencers are just based onthe social media.
They're just going to post andwhoever follows them will follow
and then they do what they wantto do and then that's it,
whereas a journalist, yeah,maybe they're still on social
media as well, but they will gofurther.
(15:41):
They would do the homework,send the emails and do.
I believe those are importanttoo, because there's only um.
With social media, everythinghas a limit, you know.
I mean, like people that aredancing and following the
influencer that you posted,they're only gonna dance at that
point and that's it.
If the influencer is notposting your song more than once
, more than three times of herdancing, it's probably if she
(16:02):
posted just once, it's notreally that important.
Kai says they're not following,so he's in for for for the for
the arts.
Hip-hop is.
It's kind of like importantpeople like I think there's
another one, ross or somethingthey go to them because when
they do go to these guys theirviews go up, everything goes up,
because the young children areall watching them and that's how
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they gain that audience.
It helps them that know.
But then with that they wouldhave other things they're doing
on the side.
I don't believe they would justgo to Kai and he is just like
we said um, if it's tiktok, it'stiktok.
If it's youtube, it's youtubeand that's what it ends, I
believe.
So I think a journalist is moreimportant because of a
journalist you're able to domore, whereas an influencer is
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just the influence on that pageand that's it.
And with the influence is morebased on the following.
So you're looking at thefollowing, whereas a journalist
it doesn't really matter aboutfollowing.
If they have to connect, theyhave to connect.
They'll get your song to theright places and it will go.
And some journalists don't evenhave a following.
Some journalists probably haveunder a follower, but the power
behind them is different.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I think that people need to take more time with the
quality instead of the quantity,so tell me how do you feel
about collaborations?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Collaborations.
I'm always for it To be honest.
Before I would just collab withanybody, but I've learned that
I have to be more cautious withmy collab.
So, like you said, film Trick,the one you like.
The track you said you like isa collab with one of my friends.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I like the other one too, nano, don't just make it
seem like it's the only one Ithink that one was vibe with me,
I think.
Yeah, I like that one too,because I was like, yeah, I can
see the answer to my honey withthis.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
That one right there really took me by surprise.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Thank you, I appreciate that.
No, thank you, it's good toknow.
No, I know you like BoobooPoint, it's just because that's
a collab.
So what happened was he camefrom Nigeria and I was like you
know what?
I need to work with someone.
People are always telling me oh, you need to work with someone
that's got following, you needto do this, you need to do.
I'm always like I believe thatif I have to pay someone to jump
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on my track, that's the end ofit.
It's not making sense.
I understand it is musicbusiness.
At some point, like one way, toa level where we are, we could
start paying people wherever.
But where I'm at, if I have tolook for an artist that's blown
and pay him, it don't make senseto me because from what I know
in in the Nigerian scene, you'regonna pay them to write and
jump on your track when it'stime for you to make the music
(18:38):
video.
They they charge you as well toshow up to the music video.
This is Nigerian artist and soall of them like no.
So that's why I don't look atit no more.
So I really work with peoplethat generally want to work with
me collab, collab, wise, andthen that's how I do my
collaboration.
I believe collaboration is goodbecause it allows you to be
able to get their other artistaudience, get their audience and
(19:01):
they are able to actually diginto your audience as well and
get some feedback from your sideas well.
That cross, what do you call it?
Cross, promotion, cross,networking I don't know what the
word is, but I think that'sreally good and it's really
beneficial, and not just as anartist producer as well.
I have a friend of mine that wedid a song too bad, but then he
(19:22):
went off, came back recently andhe's like I need to work on a
track and me and him just satdown like you know what, let's
work on this together.
And he started making a bit nowwe're out at the drum, out at a
couple of things and before youknow it, he came back.
He actually left the track tome, came back.
I deleted some of one or twothings.
I'm like what do you think?
He's like yeah, yeah, and wemade a track, a new song that
really sounds good.
It will be out soon.
But that's another part,because you learn from other
(19:43):
people.
We always look at it like, oh,I know everything, but it's good
to share knowledge thing, theresult is different.
So I believe collaboration is agreat thing.
You cannot you cannot doeverything by yourself.
(20:03):
There's a saying like what doyou call it?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
one, one tree cannot cause a wildfire, so you need
people around you to make ithappen.
Okay, so what do you thinkabout ai collaborations?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
someone came to me the other day.
Actually, I said what did theysay?
They were like, ah, seven theywere.
It was.
It was an artist was with me.
I was talking to his girlfriendthe friend, the girlfriend's
phone was on the phone, she wasall rapping and I'm like what's
going on?
She's like, yeah, she's usingai to get our lyrics and
everything like that.
I'm like wow, to me that's notauthentic.
I can't do that I can't do thatbecause I feel like.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I feel like the human mind is smarter than ai.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Ai is supposed to help you, not do it for you
exactly, exactly so, going to anai to write your lyrics and
things like that.
I'm not interested in nothinglike that Because, apart from
that, people listen to yourmusic for your experience, your
own thing.
So why would you tell thecomputer Like there's a lot of
lies, there's a lot of things?
(21:08):
Now that people do, music hasbecome less genuine.
Yeah, that's how I see it,because you have a lot of people
that's using ai.
Now some music actually isactually ai that's doing the
recording as well.
So, and it makes it hard forother people, but I believe the
connectivity, the being realwith people, that's what's
really important.
When people come to your shows,they want to know you for you,
(21:29):
not for what a computer hasgenerated and written, don't get
wrong when it comes to like, ifI'm to write press release or
meant to write a word document,I'll call chat jptr.
We need to do that, but in termsof my lyrics, making my music,
I don't need it.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I know okay what about artists who write for
other artists?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
um, that's a crazy one.
You just picked it.
But with that I don't.
To be honest, I used to think,nah, nah, you should write for
yourself.
But I don't think there'sanything wrong with it, you can.
The reason I say that is whenwe say write for other artists
like I've been in that kind ofsituation A lot of people think,
oh, someone is sitting therewriting for you every time.
They're writing for you everytime.
(22:14):
For example, I was in a studioa long time ago with one of my
colleagues and one of my friendsand I was making a beat and I
was like, yeah, do this.
I was trying to do something.
I was like, no, no, no, no, no,why don't you do this?
So he actually changed mystructure of how I was going to
sing the song.
So he's changed the melody.
So in a way, that's kind oflike songwriting as well,
because this made me move awayfrom what I had in my head and
I'm doing what he's saying.
(22:35):
So there's that aspect of it.
I believe songwriting is good.
It could help.
It shouldn't be anything whereyou're always going to someone
to write your song for you,because you lose your touch and
even if someone is writing yoursong.
You should still be togetherwith them and have that
influence to still have you init.
That's what I believe, but Idon't think there's anything
wrong in terms of Drake uses ita lot from what I heard, but I
(22:59):
don't use it.
But I think it's something thatcould be useful.
There's nothing wrong withhaving songwriters, but always
remember that the songwriter isone that eats the most.
You only make your money backfrom performing.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
And the publisher I know you understand what and the
publisher.
You understand what made methink of that is.
I remember Ja Rule doing aninterview.
It may not have been aninterview, it may have been
doing the verses, I can'tremember, but I know that Ja
Rule said that the collaborationthat he did with Jay-Z he was
(23:33):
like I wrote his verse for him.
So the reason why I ask thesetypes of questions is because in
that situation I don't thinkthat he necessarily needed
Jay-Z's pen.
He just wanted his actual voice.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
And I don't see the difference in I'm looking for
this sound right here.
I need you to do this BecauseI've talked to different people
who would collaborate withdifferent people across the
world, especially when COVID hit, and they were trying to find
creative ways to still be ableto collaborate.
And they were trying to findcreative ways to still be able
to collaborate and they haddifferent programs that people
(24:16):
would get in, because I know, ifI'm saying it right, I think it
was called Band Lab orsomething where you could go in
and collab with different people, and they have met some really
accomplished people doing that.
I'm just thinking that, evenwith AI, if you know you're
(24:38):
looking for a particular soundand you searched and searched
and searched and can't find it,what's wrong with creating?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
There's nothing wrong with creating.
I don't think there's anythingwrong with it, and that's what
producing is really and truly.
Producing is about hearingsounds that you like, and we're
creating them most of the time.
I mean music production.
When you go to music production, I mean that's what I learned
when I was in college.
I learned music technology andit's all about sound.
Let's be honest.
I said it to someone if youlisten to most other songs
(25:06):
that's hits and the main like wesay, they're hits and stuff you
find similar sounds in some ofthem and it's because someone
has heard that song and theysaid, yeah, I'm gonna replicate
that and bring it onto mine.
I don't think okay.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
so what do you think about?
I don't know if it's just onlywith an app on, but you can get
all these different apps on yourphones where you can create
beats, you can make your voicesound like this and you can all
of so if a person will put thattogether with having business
sense, do you think that thosetypes of apps cheapen the music?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Now that you say that in a way it kind of does, and
that's it kind of does in a way.
But then it allows people to becreative as well.
There's that aspect of it.
It gives people to theirability to be creative.
I mean some people that neverthought, oh, I could do music.
Those are the things that getthem into the studio.
That's how they started like,oh, I could do that.
Oh, let me go to studio, let metry make something happen.
(26:06):
So I mean I've had a man, soit's called.
You know if I was working at PCWorld and a man created his own
album in his car?
I've heard that before.
There's a lot of technologiesnow that makes life easy for
people, and I cannot, to behonest, I cannot fault people
for how they want to do whatthey want to do in terms of
their music.
How we get to the finish lineis going to be different for
(26:30):
everybody, but it's just aboutstaying grounded in how you do
your own thing, cause there'salways going to be new things
every day.
I mean, the main craziness isthe AI Now, literally, you could
just type and then someonecould be sounding like Tupac.
That's what's crazy.
That is that one there I'm notagreeing with it's like it's
wrong, cause anybody could sayyou said something you didn't
say.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I saw that years ago I was watching CNN and they had
at that time it was PresidentObama and they had four videos
of him and they was like can youpick out the one that's real?
And they all look real and noneof them were real.
(27:13):
So, yeah, and so when you thinkabout you working so hard to
build this brand, and somethingas simple as AI can bring
everything that you don't workso hard for down were down.
Do you think that there shouldbe more restrictions and laws on
(27:36):
the use of AI, especially whenyou're dealing with because
you're a public figure, it'smore that you have to endure,
but do you think that thereshould be more restrictions on
those types of things if you'reconsidered a public figure?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I think, yeah, even apart from public figure, I
think there should just be somekind of protection on it,
because, let's be real, peoplecould use someone else's details
to get something that is not,and then the person would get in
trouble.
I work as a warrant officer, soto say.
When I say warrant officer, I'mnot like Bailey for anything.
I go to people's houses and Itry to speak to them, to play
(28:16):
the decks and things like that.
So when I get to some houses,people don't even know the name
they're like listen, I've beenliving here for 50 years.
That name has never shown up onmy house, that house name has
never shown up here.
And when you look at things likeit's going back to things like
chat, gpt and things like that,people could literally create,
like you said, create someone'sidentity to be able to get
something, and the person thatthat that is the person don't
(28:38):
know nothing about it.
Way from artists.
As a normal, as a normal person, we need to do, um, we need to
do better to protect people,because I think it's very
dangerous to me.
I just feel it's very dangerous.
It could get a lot of people introuble.
I don't know nothing and it'scrazy.
And even now you have thisthing of mask where people
there's a same type of maskwhere you could put on and you
look like someone else the way.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
It's crazy, I'm telling you look, makeup artists
can do that.
You could change your wig, uh,change your beard color.
You can put on makeup that canchange your skin color.
I mean, you can really becomesomeone else.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
So it's crazy.
So I think you're right.
There should definitely be lawson, not just for someone that
has influence, but just even anormal person.
I think everybody should beprotected to a certain degree,
because the way AI is going, itcould be very dangerous for
people.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Okay, do you think your music transcends to the
states?
My music, your music.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I mean, I check things like my TikTok, spotify
artist, youtube artist and I seea few American countries.
Like I was looking at mytargeting and I've been
targeting a lot of places likeZionsville, los Angeles, new
York, new York.
Yes, I've seen a few peoplelisten to my music from the
States.
Yes, I could say that, but Ijust want to.
(30:05):
I'm looking at ways to make itgrow more and get people to
listen to my music mainly, but,yeah, I think I do have a few
people that listen to me in theStates.
So, yes, I'm someone that I'mable to collaborate with people
in other countries and work withpeople in other places.
I mean, I was born in Nigeria.
Like I said, I came here when Iwas 11.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, that's not an issue for me working with people
that are living somewhere elseor moving to tell everybody how
they can find your music, anylast words that you might have,
anything about 705, like how hegot his name or what.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
I'll tell you that.
Well, first of all, let me tellyou how I find my name, my name
.
So my actual name is TosinT-O-S-I-N.
The seven is a T and the O iszero.
S-5, t-o-s.
Tos oh okay, t and the o, zeros five.
T or s?
(30:59):
Tus, oh okay, but there's moreto it.
So my mom has seven kids.
Okay, I'm out of those seven.
I'm the fifth born, seven, fiveout of seven kind of thing, but
put the other way around.
So that's the other aspect ofit.
So that's how my name comeabout.
My music you could literallyfind it everywhere, just
literally 705 spotify, youtube,um, itunes, anyway, 705 social
media.
I go by 705 beats, which is 705b-e-a-t-s.
(31:22):
Bravo, echo, alpha, tango,sierra.
So 705 beats and yeah, that'sit.
I've got new music coming out.
I've got a song that I thinkyou guys will love.
It's's a fusion of Afro.
I'm really going into Afro withit.
I've got some rapping in Yorubaas well.
So there's that Afro rap fusionagain, and I think it's going
(31:43):
to be a real summer vibe.
I should have dropped it when Iwent in April.
Summer is basically here, soI'm working on it.
So, yeah, that's me.
Bye me and thank you foractually having me here.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
It's been a real vibe and I've learned a lot.
Well, I'm glad that you came.
Remember, you can find IndieArtist Music Hustle with Blonde
Intelligence on all podcastplatforms.
You can catch us on socialmedia and you can copy and merge
at wwwblonde-intelligencecomand I'll see you next week.
Bye.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Hey, girl, let me tell you about this podcast.
Girl, everybody has a podcastthese days, but this one
interviews new and interestingindie artists.
It's called indie artist musichustle with blunt intelligence.
Really, where can I find it?
It's on all podcastingplatforms streams live on social
media and on rpENTradiocom.
What'd you say it was calledagain, it's called Indie Artist
Music Hostel with BlindIntelligence.
Girl, I'm going to have tocheck her out.
(32:41):
Give it a check, girl.
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