June 29, 2025 • 27 mins
Welcome to Indie Artist Music Hustle with Blonde Intelligence. I am your host Ms. Roni and I always seek to give you exquisite cranial repertoire. What happens when you finally unveil a talent you've hidden your entire life? Singer-songwriter Chelsea Klein takes us through her remarkable transformation from closeted vocalist to emerging pop artist on this episode of Blonde Intelligence.
Chelsea reveals the personal journey that kept her musical ambitions hidden from nearly everyone except close family until just five years ago. Her candid discussion about finding confidence through vocal coaching with Nick Cooper illuminates how technical improvement transcended into personal growth, reshaping not just her voice but her entire presence. "I carry myself so much differently now," she reflects, describing fundamental changes that extend well beyond the recording studio.
The conversation reaches its emotional center when Chelsea unpacks the four-year evolution of her recent single "Karma." This isn't just another release – it's a therapeutic milestone representing personal power reclaimed through music. Originally written as a fantasy about karma being her "personal hitman" against those who wronged her, the song finally reached perfection after multiple recording attempts and years of vocal growth. Her perfectionism speaks volumes about artistic integrity, refusing to release work that doesn't match her vision despite pressure from friends and family to "just put it out."
Beyond the music, Chelsea shares her heartfelt approach to fan connection, recently establishing direct email communication with listeners. "I want to lift up my fans the way they lift me up," she explains, creating a genuine two-way relationship rarely seen in artist-fan dynamics. This authenticity permeates everything about Chelsea's approach – from her songwriting to her commitment to artistic growth.
Whether you're pursuing your own creative path or simply appreciate the vulnerability behind great art, Chelsea's journey offers inspiration and insight. Listen now and connect with her music on all streaming platforms or visit chelseaklein.com to join her growing community of supporters.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hello everyone, welcome to today's Blonde
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We have a special gueststraight out of Los Angeles,
california, miss Chelsea Klein.
Hello, miss Chelsea, how areyou doing?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm doing all right, trying to stay sane through this
.
California.
Ms Chelsea Klein.
Hello Ms Chelsea, how are youdoing?
Doing all right, Trying to staysane through this weird
election week, right, well we'regoing to start out with letting
you tell everyone a little bitabout yourself.
Sure, so I'm a singer andsongwriter and I kind of have
(00:45):
been closeted from that my wholelife, like no one knew that I
sang.
No one knew that it was evenwhat I wanted to do, except,
like my very close family, untilabout five years ago.
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Speaker 2 (02:17):
Years ago, and so I only started like really fully
going for it career-wiserecently and then just started
putting out my own music a yearago and have just been trying to
work hard on it ever since okay.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So tell me this do you think that because I know
you told me uh earlier that youmoved from Utah do you think
moving from Utah, moving to LosAngeles, has helped your music
career?
For?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
sure.
So when I first started, Istarted with working with a
vocal coach, Nick Cooper, and hehas like changed everything for
me.
My voice is completelydifferent than it was and I also
just like he's very good atlike just building your
confidence as a person too.
So I think I've just kind ofchanged as a whole and just even
(03:09):
like in social situations now Ifeel like I carry myself so
much differently, which alsoobviously helps as an artist.
So, yeah, it definitely.
I don't know where I would beright now if I had tried to do
it for me.
Hopefully would have figured itout, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
So what do you consider your genre?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
right now.
If you listen to what's out,it's definitely pop, um, and I
probably will always be in thepop realm, but like my
influences and what I'm actuallycurrently working on are a lot
more like kind of R&B and liketrying to pull from like some
old school stuff.
That's like mainly what Ilistened to, but I hadn't really
pulled from for my first fewreleases, so yeah, Okay, so tell
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me this I know that a lot ofthe revenue for musical artists
come from live performances.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
How have you, or have you made the crossover to live
stream in the place of liveperformances during COVID?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I mean I know I should be doing more, but I
haven't.
I kind of paused liveperformances when that hit and
just kind of super focused inwriting.
I feel like my writing'schanged tremendously.
I've been kind of, and that'swhere, like, my shift of genre
is kind of super focused inwriting.
I feel like my writing'schanged tremendously.
I've been kind of, and that'swhere, like, my shift of genre
is kind of coming from.
So I think I've been focusing alot on like where I want to go
(04:33):
and so that I have more to singas well once I do start doing
live again.
So I haven't really put it intopractice, but I definitely know
that streaming is going to haveto be the new shift.
So, yeah, I, I definitely knowthat streaming is going to have
to be the new shift.
So, yeah, how long do you think?
I mean at least this next year,right, I think for a while, and
I feel like for a while, evenonce there's vaccines, whatever
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people are more scared now to gointo crowded places like that.
So I feel like for a while someplaces I have.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
You know people send me things and they'll send me
parties that they had, or youknow performances that they have
or whatever, and it's likepacked people and only a few
people have on mass.
So if you did get theopportunity to perform live,
what would be your personalrestrictions that you would have
(05:24):
in your rider?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I mean again would depend like right now.
Right now I don't think I wouldeven do it.
I don't want to encourage myfans or anyone to put themselves
in that position, whether ornot they're comfortable with it.
I don't feel comfortable.
I think once there's a vaccineand things start to open a
little more, I would still wantto be cautious.
I think potentially limitingcrowds, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
So what would you consider a good crowd size,
being in LA, taking COVID intoaccount and everything?
If you had to build your ownshow, what would be your ideal
show for this time?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I don't know how likely this is or like how
realistic, but I've seen it'swhatever you say.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
That's the reason why .
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I feel like I would want to do a show.
I've seen a lot of like fakedrawn up like templates of where
it almost feels like everyonehas their own vip box, so
there's like separate sectionsper party or group.
So it's like you bought yourtogether, you and your friends
sit in this box, and so it'slike everyone's kind of forcibly
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separated, has their own littleseat spot and that way whatever
, like the opera venue, you know, and then everyone kind of
feels special.
They're like oh, we have ourown seats, like I can see
everything.
I'm not looking over crowds oftaller people, it's like.
I feel like that almost giveskind of a nice vibe anyway well,
you're smaller.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
One of the things I have noticed when I go to live
shows is I think that they makethe seats for people with skinny
butts, because when you go tolike stadiums and auditoriums
and different things like thatto go to the shows, the chairs
are so little and if somebodyhave to get up and go to the
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bathroom, you turn it all to theside and switching all up and
I'm like who built this wherethey don't even have walking
space for a person if they needto go to the bathroom?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
totally, even though, yeah, the walking space even is
just crazy.
And then you feel awkward butyou're like, well, I gotta go,
sorry yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
So tell me this where is your biggest fan base that
you think in the whole world,not just in the United States I
asked about the United Stateslater but as overall in the
world, having globaldistribution and everybody
having global distribution attheir fingertips.
And even with with the Googlevideo ads, you know where you
(08:00):
can get all the views on yourvideos and even with where you
have a targeted market, whatthey call a geofancy.
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Fancy.
Where is your largest fan basein the world outside of the
United States?
I definitely looking at likestreams and stuff like that.
I definitely have a decentLondon following and I also have
a good Brazil following which Ithink just comes from that
being like second home to me,like I feel like in my heart
that's home and I have a lot offamily there I have.
That was like where my firstradio plays came from, so I
think I have a lot of verysupportive people in Brazil as
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well.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
OK, now within the United States.
Where is your biggest fan baseoutside of Los Angeles?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I think I had.
It was like Buffalo, New Yorkor something.
There was something sospecifically random.
I'm like I don't know why.
I'm like the playlist I'm onspecifically random, that's what
.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I see specifically random.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
That's an icy moron.
Like it was random that it wassuch a specific location instead
of just new york.
It like really zoned in zonedin a playlist that has a big
following from an area or playsand I don't know what, like my
streaming like that is so randomto me and I don't really
understand it, but yeah okay.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Between social media, what do you think is the most,
or which one do you think is themost beneficial for you?
Do you think that it'sInstagram, or is it Facebook?
Is it even YouTube, linkedin,uh, snapchat?
Out of all of those, which onedo you feel, personally, as an
(10:04):
artist, is the most beneficialto you?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
For me it's been Instagram, I think, just because
that's what I use the most, sothat's where people look for me.
And then you know thatsnowballs.
So now if anyone searchesanywhere else, they're going to
see.
That's where I'm most active,so they're going to go there and
I like that.
It's kind of everything.
I can share photos, I can sharestories if I don't feel like
it's that important, but I wantto share something.
(10:28):
There's video, it's kind ofeverything.
So that's definitely been my goto yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Tell me about your latest single.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, I just on October 30th, released a new
song called Karma.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And that's the one I listen to.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
It was my first music video too, so I was really
excited about it.
We wrote this song, like me andtwo other writers like four
years ago, and I've just beensitting on it because I've been
like very obsessed with it.
It gets stuck in your head,it's so catchy, like I really
wanted it to be right and I feellike because my journey as a
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singer and like beingcomfortable singing in front of
people, the recording process,all of that was so new to me
that when we wrote this right atthe start, I was kind of like I
don't know if I can sing thiswell enough yet.
Like obviously I was part ofwriting it, like I could, kind
of like I don't know if I cansing this well enough yet.
like obviously I was part ofwriting it, like I could sing it
, but I couldn't sing, so youknew how you wanted it to go
yeah, I was like this doesn'tsound right, like it's I feel
(11:30):
like I'm relying on auto-tune,like it's just not what I want
the song to be.
So we kind of just shelved itand I've been working really
hard with my vocal coach, likeweekly.
We're in even right now we doFaceTime lessons weekly and I
just finally got to a pointwhere I was supposed to release
it last Halloween with the video, and that's when we filmed the
video.
But I still again, we kind ofrushed recording it again
(11:54):
because I decided last minutethat's what I wanted to do for
Halloween and I just was likeit's still not right.
Like I and everyone else, likemy family, my friends, were like
Chelsea, you're being aperfectionist, just put it out.
I was like, but you don'tunderstand.
Like it's not right.
So I just kind of I made themistake of announcing it before
(12:15):
I heard the final cut.
So then I had to awkwardlybacktrack, delete the posts and
kind of just forgot about itbecause I was so I think I just
got so frustrated I was like isit ever going to be right?
I don't know if I even everwant to put this out.
I'm just over it, I'm going tostop.
So we put it off until then.
(12:36):
This year I feel like, like Ialready said, during all this
lockdown, I feel like I've grownmore than I have in like the
past three years combined.
So we finally were just like myvoice coach was like Chelsea.
I think this song will sound sodifferent if we go back in and
cut it one more time and I waslike, oh, I'm so over this song,
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but okay, fine, let's try it.
And then it finally finallysounded how I wanted it to.
So then I just had the peoplewho did the video like put the
right song in and I was like,let's just go for it.
It's very like spooky vibesHalloween.
Why not just put it out forsomething fun for people to
enjoy during all this craziness?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
so okay, so you held on to this song for four years
and you was a co-writer on it.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
What significant meaning does it have?
Because it has to have sometype of meaning for you to hold
this song for four years and tokeep, I say, molding, to keep
molding it to perfection.
So what is it about this song?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I think it just makes me feel like I'm back in
control.
I'm a huge like.
I'm not confrontational.
I don't like to get mad atpeople.
Even when people have done mewrong and it's like on paper,
like anyone would say theywronged me and I should have
stood up for myself.
A lot of the time I will justcut it and walk away and
(14:02):
sometimes looking backespecially the day we wrote this
song I was looking back atsituations where I'm just like
frustrated with myself.
I'm like why didn't I saysomething?
Like I wish I would have felt alittle stronger in the moment
to be like hey, I don't standfor this, I'm not okay being
treated like that.
You know, just like a littlesomething.
But I always have been the typeof person, too, who's like well,
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karma will handle it.
Like they wronged me, karmawill deal with it.
It's not, I don't need to getback at them or say anything
like the universe will deal withit.
So I think that day I came intothe studio feeling frustrated
because I felt like, at leastseeing the perfect Instagram
pictures, like it seemed likekarma hadn't helped me out.
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I was like I wish I had donesomething like come on, karma,
you're supposed to have my back.
So then we were like, jokingaround, it's like karma was my
own personal hitman and like Icould just send them out on
people to like get back at themfor what they'd done to me.
So we kind of just wrote itfrom that perspective and then I
took that for the video too, tobe like evil, without actually
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being evil, because that's justnot me, like I don't feel like I
need to seek revenge, but ithelped me feel like maybe I was,
you know.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
So you use it basically therapeutically yeah
that's the reason why you heldon.
So how do you feel about thefinal outcome?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I feel good about it.
I think it's definitely to.
I think a good time with mytransition of my style and like
what feels most natural to me.
It was good to put it out nowbecause it is different, so I
think I was ready to like notpart ways is wrong because it'll
always be like my song, youknow what I mean.
But it was a good like time tofinally just give it to my fans,
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release it, for me to to liketherapeutically, just be able to
say my piece and now move on tothe next chapter.
So, yeah, I feel really goodabout it finally being out.
I don't have to worry about it,overthink it, it's just done
like.
The meaning means something tome and hopefully will hit with
other people as well so was itpart of a album or was it just
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totally a single?
just a single um, especially atthe beginning, like a couple of
my songs that we released werefrom that time as well, that I
released last year, and I thinkwe just did a ton of singles to
kind of explore what even workedfor me or like what direction I
wanted to go in.
So none of them felt like acohesive project.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
So I just kind of a couple random singles here and
there to test out what worked,you know, okay, in one interview
I did, an artist made a commentto me that with COVID that he
started releasing music muchquicker than what he normally
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would.
So with you and dealing withCOVID, what do you think that is
a good time frame for a life ofa single before you release the
next one?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I typically in my head decided at some point I
don't know why that it was oncea month, but I do think it
depends.
Like normally at the height oflockdown, I think people were
constantly consuming and justwanted more.
Like I don't like to look at itas like oh, but it needs to
ride out its life, especiallyright now as a newer artist.
(17:29):
Like it's not like I'm tryingto make the charts, like I'm not
there yet, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
So I think just giving Do you even register for
the charts?
Yes, OK, well then you might.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, you never know, but I think the more as a new
artist, the more sides you canshow and the more content you
can give people, there will be alittle bit more of something
for everyone Not everyone, butyou know, like I think, the more
the better, almost.
So I think if you have finishedproduct, put it out there.
But then there are weird times,like right now, where
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everyone's stressed and no one'slike wanting to self promote,
like well, election, but listento my new song Like it's just
not the time.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
So you don't feel like right now is a good time to
use your dollars other placesthan promotion right now you
could use your dollars otherplaces than promotion right now.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Sure, and just it just feels so tone deaf, like
the last thing that I care aboutright now is getting my strings
up, like I just it doesn'tmatter, like if there's
something that resonates that Ifeel like maybe would be an
uplifting good, like resolve forpeople, musically and
therapeutically, sure, but I'mnot trying to like promote, you
know, okay, so what are yourplans for the future?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
being the artist, chelsea Klein, what are your
plans?
What are you?
What are your achievable goalsthat you have in place right now
?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I definitely, I think , one of my big things, since my
last single was just.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
When was your last single?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
My last single was in August, the end of August, and
then I planned for this one.
I kind of I just want to startputting more out, like I think I
just overthink things and siton songs.
Clearly, four years, I sit onthem for so long and it's like I
just want to start creating.
And if that's what I wasfeeling in that moment, I want
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to put it out so that by thetime the next song comes, I can
put it out, instead of feelinglike I'm already over the song.
You know, like I want to beexcited about it with my fans.
As I'm putting it out, I feellike when you sit on something
for too long, it's like, well,this song, but my head is still
at my new music.
But here's this one.
You know, I just want to putout no, I'm a Capricorn and
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you're indecisive.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
What.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I think I'm indecisive.
Well, I'm so.
I'm all Capricorn, but thenPisces rising, ok.
But I think my issue is likewhen I don't, when there's too
many options, I don't know whichone to pick.
But once I have, if I have avision, I'm all going to stick
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with it, you're going to stickwith it.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Capricorn is going to stick with it, and even if you
feel like it's not goinganywhere, you're gonna keep on
going, and keep on going, andkeep on going.
It don't matter what nobodyelse say, you're just gonna look
at them and keep on going.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So my mama, capricorn it's so real, I'm such
Capricorn, it's so bad, but yeah, the indecisive thing.
I don't know where that comesfrom, but yeah.
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Sun is Leo, my moon is Geminiand I'm like I am so loving and
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people say I'm so mean.
But then I found out my Venuswas Cancer but my rising is Leo.
So I have a lot of fire but I'mvery compassionate and caring
and people try to take advantageof it.
When they take advantage of it,then they get my Gemini, the
queen of swords, and I cut youoff yeah, that's the way to be.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
honestly, you got a good mix in there.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So tell me this I asked this question to another
person, so I'm going to ask youhow is it for you to work on a
project with somebody, finish itto completion but not care for
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the person?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
personally Like the person I'm collaborating with.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Mm-hmm, how would you ?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
handle that, or how did you handle it?
Luckily, I have worked with alot of people that I really
enjoy, so I've been lucky onthat front so far.
I think you know it won't alwaysbe like that, I think I mean,
my personality is just so.
Like I said, like I think Iwould just put a smile on, be
nice, because that's who I am,and we would get through it, and
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if the music's great, then cool.
Thank you on to the next.
Now you know, I think I wouldjust try to get through it as
best as possible and see it aslike a learning experience.
I also, the Capricorn in me,does well with like business, so
like, just get it done.
I'm not gonna, if that's theway it's gonna be, I'll shut off
the Pisces in me and just workon the work and be done okay, if
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you had the chance to work withany artist, who would it be?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
that's a hard question, I think, and they
don't have to be alive oh, thatchanges things.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
This is, this is Chelsea's world.
I would love I mean, I don'tknow what the song would be, but
I would die to work with, likeSWV.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I would die, um when how are you gonna do it if
you're gonna die?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I'll die after it's finished because it'll just be
the greatest thing that's everhappened.
Um, but like I wouldn't want tosing on that.
It'll just be the greatestthing that's ever happened, but
like I wouldn't want to sing onthat.
I would just want Whitney to doher thing and then just maybe
like say one word so that myname could be on it.
But just let her shine, whitney, and then I also think it would
be really fun to work with,like Usher or Bruno somewhere.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
So the last part is achievable goals.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well, the first part is achievable goals.
Yeah, I guess so.
Well is there anything else thatyou want us to know about, miss
Chelsea Klein?
Well, I have a thing that Istarted recently.
Um, I set up my email list butit's not just like newslettery,
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promotional stuff.
So when you sign up, you get mypersonal email address and I
want it to be like a two-waystreet so my fans who have
already signed up for it likejust chat they can respond to my
like behind the scenes stuff ifthey want to or if they need
something and want to reach outto me because they need someone
to talk to.
I just wanted to build a spacethat made people feel supported
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and cared about and not alone.
And yeah, I just want people tofeel like I want to lift up my
fans the way they lift me up.
So I kind of created a spacewhere they can communicate with
me.
I felt, like my Instagram DMs,like it just feels so I don't
know, like not a fullconversation.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
And personal.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, so I started that.
So, if anyone's interested, thelink is in my bio on Instagram,
as well as just the first thingthat pops up on my website,
which is ChelseaKleincom, aswell as just the first thing
that pops up on my website,which is chelseaclinecom.
So that's something that's beenreally fun that I've been
working on and just kind of likea little bit of my heart,
because I want people to alwaysfeel cared about.
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I feel like that's one of theworst things.
It's just like when you feelalone, even when you have all
these people around you, youfeel like you've known to talk
to.
So I want people to know thatI'm here if anyone needs anyone
to talk to.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
So, yeah, people should sign up for that and just
my music and you know connect.
Okay, where can we find yourmusic and what's your social
media handles, in case anybodywant to follow?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
yeah, um, it's chelsea klein music on instagram
and then, like I said, chelseakleincom.
My website kind of has links toeverything um chelsea klein on
spotify, apple, youtube, kind ofwherever you listen to music.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
OK, all right, I thank you for coming.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
All right, bye, bye.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm doing all right, trying to stay sane through this
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Hello Ms Chelsea, how are youdoing?
Doing all right, Trying to staysane through this weird
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you tell everyone a little bitabout yourself.
Sure, so I'm a singer andsongwriter and I kind of have
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Speaker 2 (02:17):
Years ago, and so I only started like really fully
going for it career-wiserecently and then just started
putting out my own music a yearago and have just been trying to
work hard on it ever since okay.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So tell me this do you think that because I know
you told me uh earlier that youmoved from Utah do you think
moving from Utah, moving to LosAngeles, has helped your music
career?
For?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
sure.
So when I first started, Istarted with working with a
vocal coach, Nick Cooper, and hehas like changed everything for
me.
My voice is completelydifferent than it was and I also
just like he's very good atlike just building your
confidence as a person too.
So I think I've just kind ofchanged as a whole and just even
(03:09):
like in social situations now Ifeel like I carry myself so
much differently, which alsoobviously helps as an artist.
So, yeah, it definitely.
I don't know where I would beright now if I had tried to do
it for me.
Hopefully would have figured itout, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
So what do you consider your genre?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
right now.
If you listen to what's out,it's definitely pop, um, and I
probably will always be in thepop realm, but like my
influences and what I'm actuallycurrently working on are a lot
more like kind of R&B and liketrying to pull from like some
old school stuff.
That's like mainly what Ilistened to, but I hadn't really
pulled from for my first fewreleases, so yeah, Okay, so tell
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me this I know that a lot ofthe revenue for musical artists
come from live performances.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
How have you, or have you made the crossover to live
stream in the place of liveperformances during COVID?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I mean I know I should be doing more, but I
haven't.
I kind of paused liveperformances when that hit and
just kind of super focused inwriting.
I feel like my writing'schanged tremendously.
I've been kind of, and that'swhere, like, my shift of genre
is kind of super focused inwriting.
I feel like my writing'schanged tremendously.
I've been kind of, and that'swhere, like, my shift of genre
is kind of coming from.
So I think I've been focusing alot on like where I want to go
(04:33):
and so that I have more to singas well once I do start doing
live again.
So I haven't really put it intopractice, but I definitely know
that streaming is going to haveto be the new shift.
So, yeah, I, I definitely knowthat streaming is going to have
to be the new shift.
So, yeah, how long do you think?
I mean at least this next year,right, I think for a while, and
I feel like for a while, evenonce there's vaccines, whatever
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people are more scared now to gointo crowded places like that.
So I feel like for a while someplaces I have.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
You know people send me things and they'll send me
parties that they had, or youknow performances that they have
or whatever, and it's likepacked people and only a few
people have on mass.
So if you did get theopportunity to perform live,
what would be your personalrestrictions that you would have
(05:24):
in your rider?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I mean again would depend like right now.
Right now I don't think I wouldeven do it.
I don't want to encourage myfans or anyone to put themselves
in that position, whether ornot they're comfortable with it.
I don't feel comfortable.
I think once there's a vaccineand things start to open a
little more, I would still wantto be cautious.
I think potentially limitingcrowds, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
So what would you consider a good crowd size,
being in LA, taking COVID intoaccount and everything?
If you had to build your ownshow, what would be your ideal
show for this time?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I don't know how likely this is or like how
realistic, but I've seen it'swhatever you say.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
That's the reason why .
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I feel like I would want to do a show.
I've seen a lot of like fakedrawn up like templates of where
it almost feels like everyonehas their own vip box, so
there's like separate sectionsper party or group.
So it's like you bought yourtogether, you and your friends
sit in this box, and so it'slike everyone's kind of forcibly
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separated, has their own littleseat spot and that way whatever
, like the opera venue, you know, and then everyone kind of
feels special.
They're like oh, we have ourown seats, like I can see
everything.
I'm not looking over crowds oftaller people, it's like.
I feel like that almost giveskind of a nice vibe anyway well,
you're smaller.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
One of the things I have noticed when I go to live
shows is I think that they makethe seats for people with skinny
butts, because when you go tolike stadiums and auditoriums
and different things like thatto go to the shows, the chairs
are so little and if somebodyhave to get up and go to the
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bathroom, you turn it all to theside and switching all up and
I'm like who built this wherethey don't even have walking
space for a person if they needto go to the bathroom?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
totally, even though, yeah, the walking space even is
just crazy.
And then you feel awkward butyou're like, well, I gotta go,
sorry yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
So tell me this where is your biggest fan base that
you think in the whole world,not just in the United States I
asked about the United Stateslater but as overall in the
world, having globaldistribution and everybody
having global distribution attheir fingertips.
And even with with the Googlevideo ads, you know where you
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can get all the views on yourvideos and even with where you
have a targeted market, whatthey call a geofancy.
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Where is your largest fan basein the world outside of the
United States?
I definitely looking at likestreams and stuff like that.
I definitely have a decentLondon following and I also have
a good Brazil following which Ithink just comes from that
being like second home to me,like I feel like in my heart
that's home and I have a lot offamily there I have.
That was like where my firstradio plays came from, so I
think I have a lot of verysupportive people in Brazil as
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well.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
OK, now within the United States.
Where is your biggest fan baseoutside of Los Angeles?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I think I had.
It was like Buffalo, New Yorkor something.
There was something sospecifically random.
I'm like I don't know why.
I'm like the playlist I'm onspecifically random, that's what
.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I see specifically random.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
That's an icy moron.
Like it was random that it wassuch a specific location instead
of just new york.
It like really zoned in zonedin a playlist that has a big
following from an area or playsand I don't know what, like my
streaming like that is so randomto me and I don't really
understand it, but yeah okay.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Between social media, what do you think is the most,
or which one do you think is themost beneficial for you?
Do you think that it'sInstagram, or is it Facebook?
Is it even YouTube, linkedin,uh, snapchat?
Out of all of those, which onedo you feel, personally, as an
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artist, is the most beneficialto you?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
For me it's been Instagram, I think, just because
that's what I use the most, sothat's where people look for me.
And then you know thatsnowballs.
So now if anyone searchesanywhere else, they're going to
see.
That's where I'm most active,so they're going to go there and
I like that.
It's kind of everything.
I can share photos, I can sharestories if I don't feel like
it's that important, but I wantto share something.
(10:28):
There's video, it's kind ofeverything.
So that's definitely been my goto yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Tell me about your latest single.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, I just on October 30th, released a new
song called Karma.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And that's the one I listen to.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
It was my first music video too, so I was really
excited about it.
We wrote this song, like me andtwo other writers like four
years ago, and I've just beensitting on it because I've been
like very obsessed with it.
It gets stuck in your head,it's so catchy, like I really
wanted it to be right and I feellike because my journey as a
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singer and like beingcomfortable singing in front of
people, the recording process,all of that was so new to me
that when we wrote this right atthe start, I was kind of like I
don't know if I can sing thiswell enough yet.
Like obviously I was part ofwriting it, like I could, kind
of like I don't know if I cansing this well enough yet.
like obviously I was part ofwriting it, like I could sing it
, but I couldn't sing, so youknew how you wanted it to go
yeah, I was like this doesn'tsound right, like it's I feel
(11:30):
like I'm relying on auto-tune,like it's just not what I want
the song to be.
So we kind of just shelved itand I've been working really
hard with my vocal coach, likeweekly.
We're in even right now we doFaceTime lessons weekly and I
just finally got to a pointwhere I was supposed to release
it last Halloween with the video, and that's when we filmed the
video.
But I still again, we kind ofrushed recording it again
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because I decided last minutethat's what I wanted to do for
Halloween and I just was likeit's still not right.
Like I and everyone else, likemy family, my friends, were like
Chelsea, you're being aperfectionist, just put it out.
I was like, but you don'tunderstand.
Like it's not right.
So I just kind of I made themistake of announcing it before
(12:15):
I heard the final cut.
So then I had to awkwardlybacktrack, delete the posts and
kind of just forgot about itbecause I was so I think I just
got so frustrated I was like isit ever going to be right?
I don't know if I even everwant to put this out.
I'm just over it, I'm going tostop.
So we put it off until then.
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This year I feel like, like Ialready said, during all this
lockdown, I feel like I've grownmore than I have in like the
past three years combined.
So we finally were just like myvoice coach was like Chelsea.
I think this song will sound sodifferent if we go back in and
cut it one more time and I waslike, oh, I'm so over this song,
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but okay, fine, let's try it.
And then it finally finallysounded how I wanted it to.
So then I just had the peoplewho did the video like put the
right song in and I was like,let's just go for it.
It's very like spooky vibesHalloween.
Why not just put it out forsomething fun for people to
enjoy during all this craziness?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
so okay, so you held on to this song for four years
and you was a co-writer on it.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
What significant meaning does it have?
Because it has to have sometype of meaning for you to hold
this song for four years and tokeep, I say, molding, to keep
molding it to perfection.
So what is it about this song?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I think it just makes me feel like I'm back in
control.
I'm a huge like.
I'm not confrontational.
I don't like to get mad atpeople.
Even when people have done mewrong and it's like on paper,
like anyone would say theywronged me and I should have
stood up for myself.
A lot of the time I will justcut it and walk away and
(14:02):
sometimes looking backespecially the day we wrote this
song I was looking back atsituations where I'm just like
frustrated with myself.
I'm like why didn't I saysomething?
Like I wish I would have felt alittle stronger in the moment
to be like hey, I don't standfor this, I'm not okay being
treated like that.
You know, just like a littlesomething.
But I always have been the typeof person, too, who's like well,
(14:23):
karma will handle it.
Like they wronged me, karmawill deal with it.
It's not, I don't need to getback at them or say anything
like the universe will deal withit.
So I think that day I came intothe studio feeling frustrated
because I felt like, at leastseeing the perfect Instagram
pictures, like it seemed likekarma hadn't helped me out.
(14:43):
I was like I wish I had donesomething like come on, karma,
you're supposed to have my back.
So then we were like, jokingaround, it's like karma was my
own personal hitman and like Icould just send them out on
people to like get back at themfor what they'd done to me.
So we kind of just wrote itfrom that perspective and then I
took that for the video too, tobe like evil, without actually
(15:04):
being evil, because that's justnot me, like I don't feel like I
need to seek revenge, but ithelped me feel like maybe I was,
you know.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
So you use it basically therapeutically yeah
that's the reason why you heldon.
So how do you feel about thefinal outcome?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I feel good about it.
I think it's definitely to.
I think a good time with mytransition of my style and like
what feels most natural to me.
It was good to put it out nowbecause it is different, so I
think I was ready to like notpart ways is wrong because it'll
always be like my song, youknow what I mean.
But it was a good like time tofinally just give it to my fans,
(15:49):
release it, for me to to liketherapeutically, just be able to
say my piece and now move on tothe next chapter.
So, yeah, I feel really goodabout it finally being out.
I don't have to worry about it,overthink it, it's just done
like.
The meaning means something tome and hopefully will hit with
other people as well so was itpart of a album or was it just
(16:12):
totally a single?
just a single um, especially atthe beginning, like a couple of
my songs that we released werefrom that time as well, that I
released last year, and I thinkwe just did a ton of singles to
kind of explore what even workedfor me or like what direction I
wanted to go in.
So none of them felt like acohesive project.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
So I just kind of a couple random singles here and
there to test out what worked,you know, okay, in one interview
I did, an artist made a commentto me that with COVID that he
started releasing music muchquicker than what he normally
(16:54):
would.
So with you and dealing withCOVID, what do you think that is
a good time frame for a life ofa single before you release the
next one?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I typically in my head decided at some point I
don't know why that it was oncea month, but I do think it
depends.
Like normally at the height oflockdown, I think people were
constantly consuming and justwanted more.
Like I don't like to look at itas like oh, but it needs to
ride out its life, especiallyright now as a newer artist.
(17:29):
Like it's not like I'm tryingto make the charts, like I'm not
there yet, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
So I think just giving Do you even register for
the charts?
Yes, OK, well then you might.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, you never know, but I think the more as a new
artist, the more sides you canshow and the more content you
can give people, there will be alittle bit more of something
for everyone Not everyone, butyou know, like I think, the more
the better, almost.
So I think if you have finishedproduct, put it out there.
But then there are weird times,like right now, where
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everyone's stressed and no one'slike wanting to self promote,
like well, election, but listento my new song Like it's just
not the time.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
So you don't feel like right now is a good time to
use your dollars other placesthan promotion right now you
could use your dollars otherplaces than promotion right now.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Sure, and just it just feels so tone deaf, like
the last thing that I care aboutright now is getting my strings
up, like I just it doesn'tmatter, like if there's
something that resonates that Ifeel like maybe would be an
uplifting good, like resolve forpeople, musically and
therapeutically, sure, but I'mnot trying to like promote, you
know, okay, so what are yourplans for the future?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
being the artist, chelsea Klein, what are your
plans?
What are you?
What are your achievable goalsthat you have in place right now
?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I definitely, I think , one of my big things, since my
last single was just.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
When was your last single?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
My last single was in August, the end of August, and
then I planned for this one.
I kind of I just want to startputting more out, like I think I
just overthink things and siton songs.
Clearly, four years, I sit onthem for so long and it's like I
just want to start creating.
And if that's what I wasfeeling in that moment, I want
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to put it out so that by thetime the next song comes, I can
put it out, instead of feelinglike I'm already over the song.
You know, like I want to beexcited about it with my fans.
As I'm putting it out, I feellike when you sit on something
for too long, it's like, well,this song, but my head is still
at my new music.
But here's this one.
You know, I just want to putout no, I'm a Capricorn and
(19:53):
you're indecisive.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
What.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I think I'm indecisive.
Well, I'm so.
I'm all Capricorn, but thenPisces rising, ok.
But I think my issue is likewhen I don't, when there's too
many options, I don't know whichone to pick.
But once I have, if I have avision, I'm all going to stick
(20:20):
with it, you're going to stickwith it.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Capricorn is going to stick with it, and even if you
feel like it's not goinganywhere, you're gonna keep on
going, and keep on going, andkeep on going.
It don't matter what nobodyelse say, you're just gonna look
at them and keep on going.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So my mama, capricorn it's so real, I'm such
Capricorn, it's so bad, but yeah, the indecisive thing.
I don't know where that comesfrom, but yeah.
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Sun is Leo, my moon is Geminiand I'm like I am so loving and
(21:46):
people say I'm so mean.
But then I found out my Venuswas Cancer but my rising is Leo.
So I have a lot of fire but I'mvery compassionate and caring
and people try to take advantageof it.
When they take advantage of it,then they get my Gemini, the
queen of swords, and I cut youoff yeah, that's the way to be.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
honestly, you got a good mix in there.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So tell me this I asked this question to another
person, so I'm going to ask youhow is it for you to work on a
project with somebody, finish itto completion but not care for
(22:31):
the person?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
personally Like the person I'm collaborating with.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Mm-hmm, how would you ?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
handle that, or how did you handle it?
Luckily, I have worked with alot of people that I really
enjoy, so I've been lucky onthat front so far.
I think you know it won't alwaysbe like that, I think I mean,
my personality is just so.
Like I said, like I think Iwould just put a smile on, be
nice, because that's who I am,and we would get through it, and
(23:05):
if the music's great, then cool.
Thank you on to the next.
Now you know, I think I wouldjust try to get through it as
best as possible and see it aslike a learning experience.
I also, the Capricorn in me,does well with like business, so
like, just get it done.
I'm not gonna, if that's theway it's gonna be, I'll shut off
the Pisces in me and just workon the work and be done okay, if
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you had the chance to work withany artist, who would it be?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
that's a hard question, I think, and they
don't have to be alive oh, thatchanges things.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
This is, this is Chelsea's world.
I would love I mean, I don'tknow what the song would be, but
I would die to work with, likeSWV.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I would die, um when how are you gonna do it if
you're gonna die?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I'll die after it's finished because it'll just be
the greatest thing that's everhappened.
Um, but like I wouldn't want tosing on that.
It'll just be the greatestthing that's ever happened, but
like I wouldn't want to sing onthat.
I would just want Whitney to doher thing and then just maybe
like say one word so that myname could be on it.
But just let her shine, whitney, and then I also think it would
be really fun to work with,like Usher or Bruno somewhere.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
So the last part is achievable goals.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well, the first part is achievable goals.
Yeah, I guess so.
Well is there anything else thatyou want us to know about, miss
Chelsea Klein?
Well, I have a thing that Istarted recently.
Um, I set up my email list butit's not just like newslettery,
(24:55):
promotional stuff.
So when you sign up, you get mypersonal email address and I
want it to be like a two-waystreet so my fans who have
already signed up for it likejust chat they can respond to my
like behind the scenes stuff ifthey want to or if they need
something and want to reach outto me because they need someone
to talk to.
I just wanted to build a spacethat made people feel supported
(25:17):
and cared about and not alone.
And yeah, I just want people tofeel like I want to lift up my
fans the way they lift me up.
So I kind of created a spacewhere they can communicate with
me.
I felt, like my Instagram DMs,like it just feels so I don't
know, like not a fullconversation.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
And personal.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, so I started that.
So, if anyone's interested, thelink is in my bio on Instagram,
as well as just the first thingthat pops up on my website,
which is ChelseaKleincom, aswell as just the first thing
that pops up on my website,which is chelseaclinecom.
So that's something that's beenreally fun that I've been
working on and just kind of likea little bit of my heart,
because I want people to alwaysfeel cared about.
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I feel like that's one of theworst things.
It's just like when you feelalone, even when you have all
these people around you, youfeel like you've known to talk
to.
So I want people to know thatI'm here if anyone needs anyone
to talk to.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
So, yeah, people should sign up for that and just
my music and you know connect.
Okay, where can we find yourmusic and what's your social
media handles, in case anybodywant to follow?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
yeah, um, it's chelsea klein music on instagram
and then, like I said, chelseakleincom.
My website kind of has links toeverything um chelsea klein on
spotify, apple, youtube, kind ofwherever you listen to music.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
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