Good Morning Podcasters! Episodes 33-36

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Podcasters. So what we've currently beendoing is sharing content from three different projects
that I'm involved in. The firstis Good Morning Podcasters with my good friend
Fuzz Martin. We also do somecontent on podcasting Sucks, and then in
these episodes you will also hear somecontent from podcasting Power Hour. Podcasting Power
Hour is a live thing we doon Twitter spaces. We get a whole
bunch of great podcast minds together wetalk podcasting. So if you're a content

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creator a podcaster, I think you'lltake something away from every episode of the
content I'm going to share with you. With that being said, make sure
you check out Eddie drop in andmake sure you enjoy this episode. I
think it's important that we all continueto learn and grow every day, and
that will help us become even bettercontent creators. That's certainly what I try
to do, learn something new everyday. I'm excited to share this content

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with you. I think it'll bea learning experience for you. Let's get
to this episode and I hope youhave a great time listening to it.
Good morning, podcasters, there aremore changes coming to your Twitter feed.
Woo hoo. My name is FuzMartin and this is good Morning Podcasters.

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Thank you for downloading streaming listening tothe thirty third episode of the new version
of the show. There have beenplenty of changes to Twitter recently, and
the new owner sometimes I don't sayhis name like he'smort The new owner recently
set the Guinness World Record for thelargest drop in personal wealth. Elon Musk

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is reported to I said his name. Elon Musk is reported to have lost
somewhere between one hundred and eighty twoand two one hundred billion dollars that's billion
with a B from November of twentytwenty one until now. Most of that
has to do with him buying eggs. No, most of that has to

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do with the drop in Tesla stockvalue, but some argue that a lack
of focus now that he has purchasedTwitter is one of the causes for the
drastic drop in stock prices, butthat is neither here nor there. Some
upcoming changes to Twitter were recently announcedand that affects perhaps you and me.

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And one in particular that you mayhave seen is that your Twitter feed now
has has two tabs that you cantoggle between at the top of your feed.
One is called for you and theother is called following. If that
seems familiar to you, that's becauseit's a direct ripoff of TikTok. Twitter,

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which was once the most sought aftersocial media platform, is now the
wish version of its younger brother.I will say this, the Twitter algorithm
in the for you tab is nowhereclose how good TikTok's algorithm is, but

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perhaps it will improve soon. Whoknows optimism. Right On top of that,
there are some relatively important changes coming. I'm not sure that they're going
to be a part of Twitter Blue. I don't know if you're gonna have
to pay for these or if allof us pleabs are getting them. Remember
when Twitter was one hundred and fortycharacters, and we didn't have things like

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threads. I sound like an oldman reckon two thousan Nate. Well,
the first big change here is thatas of February, they're going to have
tweets that are four thousand characters long. Perhaps Elon should have purchased Facebook instead.
While long tweets will be in thefeed, you'll have to click or

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read more button in order to expandthem and see the non truncated version.
But brevity was like Twitter's one thingit had going and now it's gone.
So instead of a nice little tweet, and we'll now have like, I
don't know, brays or bellows.Next big update last week, Elon Musk

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announced that Twitter is getting bold,underline and italic formatting features coming soon.
As one Twitter commenter wrote, wecan only beg for comic sands and the
last big update for this week's episode, There'll be more, I'm sure in
future episodes if there is a Twitterhandle that you've had your eye on.

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It is rumored that Twitter will startselling usernames online via online auctions. They're
going to have to sell a wholebunch to make up forty four billion dollars,
and unfortunately, the username at fuzzwon't be available anytime soon. That
gentleman grabbed the handle in two thousandand six, two full years before I
joined. That's okay, So willany of these updates change how you market

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your podcast? Possibly you can startoffering long form content on Twitter. As
a purist, I'm going to beslightly annoyed at first, but I'm sure
I'll get over it. I actuallyenjoyed when we went to two hundred and
eighty characters, So four thousand charactersis what it is. You still have
to put out good content, itdoesn't matter how long it is. Also,

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if you've been trying to get acertain dormance hen for your podcast,
there's a possibility that you'll be ableto snag it up soon, so that
could help. I'm not sure whatit's going to cost you, but again,
it could help your marketing efforts.And I'm really not sure how bolding,
underlying, or italicizing tweets is goingto help with your marketing. But
if you're a first mover once it'slive, now that you have that knowledge,

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it might give you a nice littlebump in your engagement for a couple
of weeks. When people who haven'tfigured it out yet, see yours and
are enamored by it and click intoit and perhaps interact and ask you,
hey, Hudge, you get thebold font. There you go. The
wild wild West of Twitter gets abit more wild. Hopefully we'll soon be

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able to pick our top eight friendsand we can all learn how to make
HTML updates on our profile pages.Thank you for listening to Good Morning Podcasters.
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I have a guest today and we'regoing to be discussing how the basics
of improv can improve your show.Hello everyone, I'm Fuzz Martin Man.
This is Good Morning Podcasters. Threetimes a week I present you with some
news skills, new tools, actionalideas that will help you improve your podcast

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by way of marketing, advertising,PR and social media. And today is
no different. It's a little differentthough, because it's the first time that
I have a guest on Good MorningPodcasters since I took it over from Tanner
Campbell back in November. But we'regoing to be learning all about a skill
that you can use to make yourinterviewing, interactions, and even your negotiations

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better. Scott Cavelli, content managerat Epic Creative and a member of the
fish Sticks Improv comedy team, isjoining me to talk about the basics of
improv, how you can learn moreabout it, and how improv will improve
your life all around. But first, today's show is brought to you by
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writer, pr Guy, content director, Improv Troup member. Thanks for

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joining me and thanks for wearing atuxedo. Oh yeah, I hey listen,
got address for the part right,yes, so glad to be here.
Thanks again, fus. Yeah,yeah, we've worked together for a
while. You started. How longago was it that you started doing improv?
So I've been a fan of improvfor my whole life. I remember
as a kid staying up past mybedtime to watch whose line is it?

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Anyway? And then even like inmiddle school and high school youth group growing
up, we would play things thatI didn't know were improv games at the
time but ended up being like realizingafter the fact. And also, yeah,
just kind of enjoying the fun ofriffing and comedy and kind of having
things spontaneously happen in conversation. ButI've been professionally in improv for about four

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years as a part of a nationalimprov group called Fishticks. We have four
troops across the country in Milwaukee,Slash, Chicago, Dallas, Atlanta,
and Denver Outstanding. So what wasit like that first time that you started
doing improv with like officially started doingimprov. It's exhilarating. It's so fun

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just being able to create something new, to go up on stage and to
not really know where it's going togo, but to just trust your teammates.
And I mean, that's a bigpart of it is to you know,
it's so different from say watching standup comedy, where they have this
prepared thing and it's and it's honed. Everything is is you know, thought

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through and figured out, and there'sthere's you know, an amazing skill in
that. But an improv it's justlet's go find something together, and it's
exploration, it's trust and and Fishticksis a great group and I got to
learn with them and figure out howto do it. And it was like
I remember going to a class withthem and coming home and being like,
there's nothing I want to talk aboutanymore other than this, Like you're not

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going to believe what happened. Itwas, it was great. So you
are taking or you have taken classeson it. You didn't just jump in
and start doing it. So theythe fish Sticks offers as many places do
improv classes for you know, helpingwith ideation and team building. And then
I just kind of started working withthem and kind of got called up to

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the big leagues. I guess fromone of the classes I during COVID,
I knew that you were doing fishSticks comedy. I have always had a
love for the Second City, andwell, you know, we're bored on
zoom for for forever. Had tostart to take some online classes and it
was it was really cool that likezoom based improv not as cool as in

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person in real life kind of situations, but you still learn some of the
basic rules of improv. Can youtell us like a little bit about what
those rules are and what what improvis. Yeah, So someone who's listening
who doesn't know much about improv andthey only know that you make it up,
they're probably like, wait, rulesof improv, Like that's not a
thing. Well, there are thethirty seven right right, and you can

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never divert from them at all.No, So the rules are basically you
have to the one that many peoplehave heard is yes, and which means
you accept the reality that your partneror that your scene creates, and then
you build on that. Some peoplealso call it heightening, where you just
take the thing that's in front ofyou, whether it be tangible or the

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situation front of you, and youjust elevate. You keep heightening and heightening,
and then the other things are reallyjust like listening and trusting. Well,
I'm sure we'll talk about that morehere in the next few minutes.
But it's about not just having yourown idea of what's going to happen.
Like sometimes you'll walk into a sceneand we don't have a relationship, you
and I, but we need tocreate one. And if I say,

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like, Grandma, it's so goodto see you, and you're like,
I'm not your grandma, I'm yourdad, Like, that's not no fun,
and that's you're confusing to the audience. So like if I say,
oh, Grandma, it's so goodto see you, You've got to be
like, oh, Scott, it'sso wonderful, Like you have to just
your grandma now because I've like likeendowed you with that. Yes, thanks

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so for making me your grandma.Well sorry, yeah, no rule to
don't apologize. Well yeah, that'strue. That and you know, since
I'm wearing a tuxedo and you're wearinga nightgown, yeah yeah, well I
do look like your grandma. Howyou put that together? And it's true.
So it's it's not. What makesit so different from stand up is
stand up is like I have athing that I'm going to communicate to you,

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and I have it all planned outwhere I and I've got and with
with improv it's you've got to listento the team and go with something that
you may not have thought of evenfive seconds. Yeah, and then keep
tightening it until mom tells you tostop. So right, well, it's
kind of like in like in thatshow, I think you should leave.

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Like the premise of that show isjust like taking a situation. I know
it's not improv, ye, butit's like taking a situation and then just
like ratchet it up, like justkeep going. Yes, exactly. The
skills that you've learned from improv don'tjust spill around to the stage or in
front of whomever you're performing in frontof. They also spill into your work

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life, right, Yes, absolutelyso. I think one of the main
things is is listening. Being agood listener in improv, and you know,
since we're talking about podcasts right andinterviewing someone, it's not just having
a list of questions. It's aboutlistening to what the person's saying and going

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off of that. And sometimes it'sripping up your sheet of questions that you
have or throwing away the idea ofwhat you thought you might be talking about
and actually listening to them and engagingwith them and kind of being in the
moment that you know, that's akind of a cliche thing to say about
it, but being in the momentof actually being here and we're creating something

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right in front of us that didn'texist before, right, And you're only
saying that because I just edited outa portion where I was looking at my
notes, right exactly, yes,perfect, perfect, No, we have
and particularly you have actually given anumber of different learning seminars to our clients,

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to people in our community and reallyteaching them about the importance of being
able to improve with somebody, butagain putting your trust in who you're working
with and really working in a waythat you can lean on one another and
finally get to a place where you'retrying to go or we're a good place.
I guess it's not necessarily always whereyou're trying to go, but where

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it takes you. But in away that is I guess, cohesive and
fun. Right, Yeah, absolutelyso if this makes me think of a
quote from James clear Hugh's the authorof the book book Atomic Habits. I
don't know if your listeners have readthat book. It's a popular book,
but he said, preparing for I'mgoing to butcher it. But it's basically
like preparing doesn't just mean preparing fora couple of different outcomes. Preparing means

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preparing for uncertainty. It's preparing forthe I don't know what's going to happen,
or like preparing for the thing thatI wasn't prepared for. And I
think in my line of work withpublic relations and with clients and with things
that you can't always predict, butyou have to be in a place of
kind of yes, ending those situationsand saying, all right, here's a

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curveball we've been thrown. How dowe manage it? How do we make
the most of it? And thatkind of idea is something that anyone can
benefit from, right is learning tobe adaptable in the moment, those times
where you don't know where something's goingto go. But the two people who
are community are more that are communicating, understand the situation, are able to

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feed off each other. We've beenin a number of spots where people are
like, do you guys share abrain? And not only just you and
me, but other people here atour office because we'll get into a client
meeting and they'll ask a question thatmaybe we've never been asked before, and
we're able to use each other's strengthsthat we've learned or used their body language
to understand who's probably likely to knowthe answer or has a better way.

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Right, you know people's strengths.You can play to people's strengths. But
then you can also you all knowwhat the end goal is, at least
in the sense of we know whatsuccess is going to look like. Yep,
to some degree, right, we'rebuilding towards the same thing, which
in improv it can get really trickyif someone's not playing the game, if

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they're only in it for punchlines,or if they're only in it for this
one idea that they had but they'renot going off of they're not listening to
the other suggestions or ideas from theother team members, then it gets real
clunky and awkward because they're not movingtowards the same goal. Right, they've
got an agenda? Yeah, right, they have an agenda, or they
just aren't listening or whatever, andso then it's it becomes clear to the

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audience that the team isn't working towardssomething. Do you ever if you have
a situation like that on stage,do you ever, like stop and just
say go do stand up bro right, yeah, like hey the Saint,
the Saint the Comedy Cafe, HeyBill Burr, right that knock that stuff
off. I've got I'm holding abanana, or or it'll be afterwards and

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I'll say like, hey, soyou know I I kind of threw I
threw something at you, and eitheryou didn't hear me or we didn't Yeah
we didn't connect on that one.Yeah yeah waka right. But then but
then the other thing too, inthat sense is if things go wrong,
there's something in improv about failing,like kind of falling with style where you

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kind of you just give yourself toit. Because in improv, one of
the most awkward things to see onstage is someone kind of like as it
or second guessing, or if youget a suggestion of an accent that you
have to do that you can't do, well, you've got to try to
do a Russian accent or you know, like you've got to because if you're
like, if you reject it becauselike, well I can't do that,

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that's like zero fun for the audience, right yeah, like oh sorry,
sorry, folks. So I'm notthe Russian voice guy, right, Like
failing hard and failing with grace isyou know a nice part of that too.
Yeah, and that I don't thinkrelating this back to podcasting, I
don't think you definitely don't have tohave a comedy podcast in order to use

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improv. It can be for allof your interviews. Whether you're interviewing you
know, the Pope, that'd bea good get, that would be a
good get. Yeah, like you'reprobably going to get some listeners, so
you probably should brush up on youron your improv skills. No, but
if you're interviewing you know, itdoesn't matter if it's a comedian an author,
you know, something serious just happened. Being able to read that room,

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interact and improvise if you will,on the spot is important. That's
if you have a guest or ifyou have a co host, all those
sorts of things. Can I tella story about a podcast I heard where
I just felt like they were horribleat improv and it was real cringey.
Yeah, good morning podcasters. SoI'm not gonna go into too much detail

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because I don't want to like,you know, out them. Yeah,
I don't want to like mudsling.But there was a podcast I was listening
to as an interview with a musicianwho had recently left one of my favorite
bands, and it was like hisfirst time going on the record about what
happened and all this. So thispodcast, which I'd never heard of,

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I like downloaded an episode because I'mlike, oh, you know, so
and so is on this episode andhe's going to talk about all this stuff.
The episode was there was zero followup questions or riffing or anything.
And I'm sure some of it hadto do with the editing of the podcast,
but the guy the interview was sayingthis rich stuff that was begging for

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follow up questions on like how didthat happen? And when was that moment?
And you know all this, youknow, how did that make you
feel? And how does it feelwith this you know, the band that
you were in is now you know, more successful, and all this stuff,
and there were zero follow ups.It was as though the interviewer was
just going down his list never hedidn't even react to the responses. It

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wasn't like he didn't even do thelike oh yeah, like oh, that
must have been hard, and thenjust like kept going yeah, it just
was. And I'm sitting there goingNo, like, please listen to what
he's saying, and like, throwyour sheet away and just have a conversation
with him, don't just have alist of questions. Sure, going down

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next on my list. No,I appreciate you coming on the show today.
I know it's a it's something thatyou kind of have to get into
in order to understand it. Whereif somebody wanted to get involved or start
learning improv, where would you Whatwould you recommend they do. Let's say

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they don't even live near any ofthe fish stick places. What would somebody
do if they wanted to learn moreabout improv? There are there are definitely
resources like Second City and others thathave online articles that you can read about
improv. But I would say,if you really want to get into it,
there might be a local troop nearbywho does classes. There are zoom

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and virtual things that you can do, but it's nothing like getting up in
front of a group of people.I promise you. The thing with improv
is you get out of it whatyou put into it. As with many
things, and if you're interested injust learning how to think on your feet
or come up with ideas, orlisten better or be a better team member.
Just going and playing improv with peoplewho even know a few improv games

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can really, you know, kindof loosen you up and unlock creativity that
you didn't think you had. Alot of people see me do improv and
my team and they say like,oh, I could never do that,
and it's like, no, youdefinitely can. You just kind of have
to get into it and get morefamiliar with it, and everyone has the
ability to be creative and think ontheir feet. You just have to,

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you know, exercise that muscle yousaid before we started recording, when you
first went to fish Sticks, whatdid they say to end? Oh?
Yeah, in the first class,they said, Hey, the one of
the best things about improv is thatyou don't have to be funny, and
I said, I'm in And honestly, if you're not focused on being funny,

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you can get out of your headand just have real moments on stage
or in an improv scene. Andone of the things about real moments is
that a lot of people can relateto them. And that's honestly, what
makes things funny is because they're relatable. So when I knew, all right,
it's not about making jokes, it'sabout making moments together. I thought

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that that was great and it tooka lot of the pressure off. Before
we go, I want you topromote your new book which is coming out.
Yeah, it's called Somehow I Manageand it's got a picture of me
on the on the cover shrugging.That's a joke from the office. But
yeah, no, I should haveimprov something that wasn't from a TV show.
No, no books, not yet, no book. All right,

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all right, well we'll get youthere. Yeah, Scott, thank you
for coming on Good Morning Podcasters.We appreciate it. And then again for
those listening, I really recommend goingand exploring it. Just explore, or
go watch some improv and see howthat all works. Go watch what was
it? Don't Think Twice? Isthat the name of them? So,

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yeah, so there's a movie,Don't Think Twice. That's another one.
It's a show on Netflix that's longform improv. It's called Middle, Ditch
and Schwartz. Okay, it's adifferent kind of improv than I do.
It's long form, which you know, that's a different podcast. But that's
a really fun show that's like onstage improv comedy. But Don't Think Twice

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is a movie about an improv troupethat you learn a lot about improv comedy
and also yeah with Mike per Bigleyand a number of others. So all
right, well, thank you againscotch Velly for joining me today on Good
Morning Podcasters. New episodes of thisshow every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
You can find it all a Goodmorningpod dot com. You're a podcaster,
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Good Morning Podcasters. Good Morning Podcasters. I had buyer's remorse about my website,

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so I changed it. Let's talkabout it. I feel like a
curmudgeon when it comes to the phrasehappy fry yea, but it brings some
people joy, so happy fry yaw. I need to go take a shower.
My name is Fuzz Martin and thisis Good Morning Podcasters, a podcast

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dedicated to helping podcasters like you learnabout marketing, advertising, PR and social
media so promoting your show becomes easierfor you. I am a partner at
an advertising agency. I've been therefor twelve years. Before that, I
was in radio. I was amorning show host and program director. I
did that for fifteen years. Andbefore that, I was a pre farm

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student who decided to try out forthe university's radio program on lunch one day,
and that's how I got here.Back in the early two thousands,
while I was working in radio,the station did not have a website.
I actually remember I'mber our general managerwho reminded me a lot of Michael Scott,
and he said, we have aradio station, what do we need

(29:08):
a website for? So I tookit upon myself to learn how to make
a website. It was hard backthen. I ended up buying a copy
of Microsoft front Page on my ownand put together a site for my show.
At the time, it was fuzzmartindot com, and I learned how
to make websites. I enjoyed thechallenge a lot. I kept updating it.

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Then I moved from front Page toDreamweaver, and then in two thousand
and two I found word Press andI learned how to install WordPress. But
that also required that I learned somePHP in my squel skills, so I
learned that and then eventually I createdthe radio station's first website for free,
because radio stations are offensively cheap.Then I started creating other people's and their

(29:59):
businesses webs sites on the side.That skill, along with another side project,
which was photography, actually helped keepmy bills paid through the Great Recession
because my radio station had put meon furlough one week a month, even
though they had to pay somebody tocome in and do my show, they
just thought it'd be symbolically good ifI was also laid off for a week

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each month Great times. Suffice itto say, I'm no longer in radio,
and now I'm an owner at afull service advertising agency that has a
full team of in house web designersand developers and SEO people, and writers
and graphic designers, all sorts ofthings. All of that is a long
way of saying I know my wayaround a website. My first instinct whenever

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I need a website is to goright to WordPress. But as a husband,
a dad, a business owner,I also care about optimizing my time.
And while I love podcasting, Itruly love and enjoy podcasting, I
cannot spend all my time doing podcastthings on the side. All the things
that I would do if I didn'thave other obligations. But I do have

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obligations, and you likely do too. All of this is leading to a
point. When I started Good MorningPodcasters, I told myself I wouldn't spend
time building a WordPress site, eventhough that's typically what I would do.
Instead, I looked at the templateson Squarespace and said, hey, those
are kind of great looking. Ifound a podcaster that had a promo code,

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and I bought a year's worth ofa square Space site. Hopefully that
podcaster has gotten paid and it helpedthem out. I had Good morningpod dot
com up and running in about aday, and it looked good. However,
after about twenty episodes, I foundit was a real drag to try
to get the site updated for everysingle episode, on top of recording and

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editing the episode, writing the shownotes, transcribing, creating an episode graphic,
all the social media stuff. Allof that. I hated having to
simultaneously flip between scheduling my show onmy host's platform and then writing and scheduling
a blog post to accommodate it onmy website. On another podcast that I
have, which is a hyperlocal podcastcalled fifteen Minutes with Fuzz. I had

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been using podcast page dot io.I had actually learned about it from one
of Tanner Campbell's episodes of his showsometime around August of twenty twenty one.
So, even though I had alreadyspent two hundred and forty dollars for a
year's worth of squarespace, so Icould get the biggest discount that was available
to me, I decided to changedirections and move good Morningpod dot com over

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to podcast page dot io. Idid this to save time and because really
that's the level of website that thispodcast needs. So once I got my
account set up the new account forgood Morning Pod, it pulled in every
episode into the system in a fewminutes via my RSS feed, and then

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maybe it took two hours of sittingon the couch customizing the pages and templates.
Customization is really simple. They've gota number of different templates that you
can choose from. They also havea really nice dragon Drop editor for the
non episode pages. I created acontact page with a form it automatically pulls
in my show's reviews, and Icreated a reviews page which I was able

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to customize The layout for it hasall of these search optimization tools that you
need for a podcast website, includingthe ability to change your open graph and
search results image, which I've talkedabout on a recent episode. There's also
a full blog. I mean implementthat soon, but I don't have it
up and running right now, becauseagain I'm focusing on reducing my worktime.

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You can import your YouTube channel.I'm not currently using that feature only because
my YouTube channel is admittedly extremely mailedin at this point, I am directly
feeding YouTube through a Headliner app connection, and I put zero time into it.
It is automated. I pay Headlinerlike thirty dollars a month and they

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automatically upload that to YouTube for meevery single episode. Thanks Headliner, but
sorry to my one subscriber on YouTube, I hope you are okay knowing that
cold hard truth this video that you'rewatching right now. I put no time
into the biggest reason I love thischange over to podcastpage dot io is that

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it is so easy. After Irecord and edit this episode, I will
upload it to my host, whichis Captivate, and I will also simultaneously
upload it to otter dot ai toget the transcription process rolling. Then I
will write my show description in amore thought out way that feels like a
blog post. Once the transcription isdone, I'll add that into Captivate and

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I will schedule the episode. Whenthe episode goes live, podcast page dot
io will automatically pull in the newepisode from the RSS feed. It'll turn
it into a new page on thewebsite and we're up and running. Then
in the morning, I will goto podcast Page, I'll go to the
new episode page, and I'll addin my episode graphic, my social sharing

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episode graphic. Again, to thepeople who run ours, please put open
graph into the RSS feed. Also, by the way, I do a
different social graphic than I do forthe show graphic. I like to keep
the episode graphic as the main albumcover art for Good Morning podcasters because I
think the logo stands out more byitself and a podcast player, But on

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social media then it looks different everytime. It's just a matter of branding
and taste, you know. Ifyou're looking to save some time without sacrificing
pretty much anything in terms of customization, branding, or content creation, I
highly recommend podcast page dot Io.I'm glad I switched from my previous hosting
platform. It's helping prevent pod faitfor me. Frankly, if you're struggling

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with your time or the ability tocreate a good looking website without needing to
know code or design, you'll enjoyit to its podcast page dot io.
Thank you again for listening to GoodMorning Podcasters. You can find each and
every one of these episodes at goodmorningpod dot com. Of course, hit

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the follow button in your podcast playerin order to get these delivered to your
inbox whenever they come out, whichis three times a week. The next
episode of Good Morning Podcasters launches onMonday. We might even have a surprise
podcasting sucks on Saturday. We'll seehave a great weekend and I will talk
to you either tomorrow or Monday righthere on Good Morning Podcasters. Good Morning

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Podcasters. I want to share atool with you that is great for people
like you and color blind people likeme, and I promise you that it
ties into podcasting. Stick around andI will connect the dots, just not
the dots where you ask me whichnumber I see. Happy Monday. I
hope you had a great weekend.This is Good Morning Podcasters, and I

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am fuzz Martin, a business owner, writer, former broadcaster, and strong
protan. Strong protan, what isthat great question? A strong protan is
a type of red green color blindnessthat causes the red cones in your eyes
to detect too much green light andskimp on the red light. And this

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throws a whole bunch of things off, not just green and red. I
often mix up blues and purples,yellows and greens, orange and greens,
reds and browns, browns and greens. Sometimes it depends on the backgrounds and
light temperature and all of that.I didn't know the Minnesota Vikings War purple

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until I was in college. Ionce got pulled over for running what I
thought was a flashing yellow stoplight.It happened to be flashing red. I
proudly own a pink water bottle becausenow Jean decided to call their colors surfer
instead of pink, and it lookedto me like it was blue on Amazon.
But that's okay. I proudly useit, and then I tell people

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that now Gene is ablest if anybodyasks why I have a pink water bottle.
And back in the third grade,my mom couldn't afford Crayola crans so
she bought me Kmart brand, whichdidn't have the names written on him.
I remember getting in trouble by missusDewey for going too fast and not paying
attention, and while those were probablyboth true, I have a minor disability

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and she lacked patients. All ofthis is to say I had to adapt,
and thankfully there's a tool out therefor me. On Friday's episode,
I talked about how I used tocreate websites, and as you can imagine,
it was relatively difficult. I usedto have to ask girlfriends or buddies

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who are designers to tell me whatcolors I'm picking and then help me with
the hex codes on websites. However, sometime back around twenty ten, Adobe
created a website called cooler Kuler tohelp everybody find colors better, and then
in twenty fourteen they renamed the siteAdobe Color. I thought Cooler was cooler,

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but it's their product and they cando what they want. Adobe Color
is helpful for people like me becauseI can search for something like, let's
say dark red, and it willgive me a bunch of color combinations that
include dark red and then some colorsthat look good and go along with it.
Then I can simply grab the hexcodes the CMYK or RGB settings,

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and then I'm off and running.This site isn't for colorblind people. I
think this site is actually for designerswho want to explore trending colors and look
at different color combinations not inside theirwork that they're creating. You can use
their explore tab to find color combinationsthat are trending and hot right now.

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You can upload an image and itwill create a color theme or find one
for you that's based on that image. It has a contrast checker to be
sure the colors that you select willbe visible to people who are color blind,
and then to make suggestions on howto improve your color combination. You
can import your color libraries super easily, like as soon as you save them,
they roll over to Photoshop if youhave Photoshop, an illustrator, even

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Adobe Express if you prefer to usethat instead of Canva. And if you
do use Canva, you can simplycopy the hex codes from your Adobe color
libraries and paste them into your brandkit inside Canva. So how can you
use it for your podcast? Let'ssay you're creating new cover arts or social
media graphics. Or you're looking torebrand your podcast something along those lines.

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You can find a color palette andsearch through all the different color palettes that
they have available, and there arethousands upon thousands of them. You can
even create a color palette with onecolor and then it will help you with
complementary colors, and then you cansave them to your library and then you'll
always have those colors at your fingertipswhen you're creating new work. It really

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helps making sure that you're staying onbrand with your colors easy. Whether you're
in the one out of twelve menin the world who are color blind,
one of the one and two hundredwomen in the world who are colorblind,
or if you're more likely one ofthose fully color sided people must be nice.
Oh by the way, it's alsofree. One other color blind anecdote.

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Before I met my wife, Ibriefly dated a woman who was colorblind,
and I just thought the genetics ofthis were interesting. If if she
ever had a boy child, thatchild would automatically be colorblind because color blindness
travels on the X chromosome. Thereyou go, dropping a little science for
you here on Good Morning Podcasters,So check it out. Color dot adobe

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dot com. Again, it's free. It'll help you get your colors in
line and make your podcasts brand better, and I'll do it for today's episode
of Good Morning Podcasters. If youever have any questions for me or the
show fully accessible, email me Fuzzat good morningpod dot com. That's Fuzz

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at good morningpod dot com, ordm me on Twitter. New episodes come
out on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridayswith bonus episodes of a show called Podcasting
Sucks with Jeff Townsend on Saturday mornings. Podcasting Sucks is available right here in
the Good Morning Podcasters feed, andall the episodes are available online at good
morningpod dot com. There go,keep that nice short down to about seven

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CTAs for you this morning. Thanksagain for listening. We will talk to
you Wednesday right here on Good MorningPodcasters right. Thank you for checking out

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this episode of ani Podcaster. Ireally do appreciate it. If you're interested
in learning more about this podcast,you can go to podcastfather dot com.
If you're interested in all the differentkinds of work that I'm doing, you
can go to Jeff Townsend dot mediacontact form on There various other different podcasts
and projects that I'm involved in thatI think you will enjoy. But again,
thank you for supporting me, andmake sure you support indie dropping network

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likek WE cover to the beginning,get your podcast featured on there. Until
I see you next time, Takecare of yourself and keep being you and
keep being great. Jeff Townsend Mediasees you good night. And the question

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is do I stay here? Willyou be back? Are you gonna come
back? Will you be back?Are you coming back