August 14, 2023 • 27 mins
It's back! We are doing our first ever re-release of a very popular series of episodes from our past. Join Michelle, Kyle & Russ as we rip through a very exciting album tournament. Kyle picked 8 albums for the tournament and so did Russ, bringing the grand total of albums to 16. Each week, Kyle & Russ state their case for why they're cjosen album should win, then Michelle picked the winner.
Some music giants are among those chosen for battle: Aerosmith, Beach Boys, Carole King, Eminem, Fleetwood Mac, Garth Brooks, Guns N' Roses, Led Zeppelin, Metallica, Michael Jackson, Pearl Jam, Pink Floyd, Prince, Silversun Pickups, The Weeknd and more square up over the course of the tournament.
Settle in, listen up and check out these bonus episodes over 16 weeks! It's the first re-release, trip down memory lane with your favorite podcast, the Infectious Grove Podcast!
Some music giants are among those chosen for battle: Aerosmith, Beach Boys, Carole King, Eminem, Fleetwood Mac, Garth Brooks, Guns N' Roses, Led Zeppelin, Metallica, Michael Jackson, Pearl Jam, Pink Floyd, Prince, Silversun Pickups, The Weeknd and more square up over the course of the tournament.
Settle in, listen up and check out these bonus episodes over 16 weeks! It's the first re-release, trip down memory lane with your favorite podcast, the Infectious Grove Podcast!
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Here we are. It's Bonus episodenumber ten. My name is Russ,
and Kyle is along with me,and of course, oh, Michelle's here.
Michelle's here as well, so that'sfun evan Michelle along for the ride.
Yeah. So, while this isan episode ten, never get old.
Yeah, that's not what the listenerssay. So we are you are?
(00:29):
You definitely are. So while weare on episode ten of the Bonus
Tournaments, we're actually in week twoof new matches and a new format because
people love Michelle so much that theydidn't want her to be labored with the
voting. So I appreciate that,I really do. Yeah. So now
the voting is and winners are decidedon by our Facebook page, as opposed
to Michelle, who is so popularno one wanted to hear her decide anything.
(00:53):
I appreciate that, though I don'twant to decide anymore. Right sure.
So last week, in under thisnew format and new matchup, we
had Eminem Music to be murdered byversus Carol King's tapestry, and in a
landslide, Carol king Tapestry took that, I think, and I the only
own voted. You did not votefor Eminem. You almost voted form.
My initial instinct was Eminem, andthen you convinced me that it could be
(01:15):
Tapestry. Well well, and Ikept trying to make it fair on the
Facebook page, like I made atleast three supper post being like yeah,
like I just wanted, like Idon't know, somebody to contact his mom
or something and be like we're allgood terms. Now I vote for him.
You know, did you start afake Facebook page and then go comment
on it and say Eminem, Itotally should have should have yeah, and
(01:38):
just had to be like a relativeof his name or something. But anyways,
yeah, so, as promised,I do want to share some of
this feedback because some of the stuff, some of it's real straightforward. We
did have one person, which istotally acceptable, just put tapestry like no,
I'm sorry, we had one tapestryand we had one tapestry Fox Show
posted with and again and I'll coverthis again later, like we don't need
you to give us a whole tonof feedback on it. If you want
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too, there's some great stuff thatwas left. You know, if you
want to, that's totally cool too, but you certainly, you know,
don't have to. You can justgo on the page and write leave your
vote, and that's it. Sowe got one that more or less went
the sentimental routes, aid Tapestry andlike most people, I have found memories.
Every time I hear I feel theearth move under my feet, I
know it'll be a fun ride,and then mentioned a couple other cuts off
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the record, and that's how Ifeel about the album, Like when I
dropped the needle on Tapestry, assoon as the piano comes in, for
I feel the earth moving, itfeels like home. Yeah, you know,
like it's a it's a sentimental thingfor me. Another interesting one that
I thought was kind of something thatI pointed out to was a person said
they're going with Tapestry. Nothing againsteminem album other than it's not in his
top two for him, which isyou know what I was saying. It
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was like, for me, it'sjust I like the record, but it's
not like if I think his secondor third album could have put up a
better showing. I was gonna saythis earlier, is that if it was
an earlier record of his, itwould have done better. I think I
feel like a lot of people aren't, yeah, listening to it. A
lot yet, Yeah, that's yeah, that's very possible. Had a couple
more in depth type comments, youknow, like this here is kind of
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speaks to what I was talking aboutwith the influence of Tapestry, Like there
was a common said, imagine whatthe world music music world would be without
Tapestry, that it changed musical landscapeand open the door for women, and
you know where would the music landscapep today without music be murdered by?
And I see both sides of that, you know, the only the like,
yes, it's bright new, soyou can't say, well, it
didn't influence anything yet because it's youknow, it's right new. But it's
also eminem doing more of the same. So it's not like there's anything innovative
(03:29):
on it that we could say,oh, well, let's say, able
to make music to be ordered bywas because of the earlier records he made.
Yeah, for sure, for sure. And then they go out to
mention some records in here that Idon't even know why they get to get
mentioned as far as like music thatchanges the musical landscape, They mentioned pet
Sounds, which we know is garbage. I mean that, yeah, I
mean I didn't even make it outthe first round of the tournament. That
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pos Thriller, Thriller which is stillin contention in the tournament by some miracle,
that's still and Dark Side Moving.That giant piece of crap got taken
out of the tournament already. Imade sure to help you guys out with
that, right. Never mind,Sergeant Peppers. The chronic I think is
a great one that's mentioned, youknow, I mean that, like the
nineties rap doesn't happen without I wasas one of my picks, but I
(04:16):
ended up choosing as tell a storyagain, that is the story. Rewind
and listen. But yeah, andthen he also listed Black Sabbath's first record
and What's going On by Marvin Gay, you know, all all stuff,
a lot of great records that couldhave made the tournament as well. And
then we did have one of ourlisteners from Northern California, James Porter,
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really really left an in depth pieceon both records, which I thought was
great, Like you could really tellhe spent a lot of time on both
and a lot of what he saidon Tapestry we covered on the show.
But as far as music to bemurdered by, he had a couple of
really astute points that he that hepointed out. He said, the beats
are great, the talents undeniable.There were moments on the album where I
could connect with the message, likedarkness, really powerful, full, but
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a lot of the album was unrelatable. And here's one thing that I thought
too was rhymes for the sake ofrhyme, like blinding speed at the end
of Godzilla. Even though that's impressive, there wasn't much said to make an
impact. And I didn't think aboutthat at all when I was listening to
it. And then the wrap upof this message says, in the end,
I left Tapestry invigorated and upbeat,and I left musically murdered by feeling
(05:21):
pretty disconnected and angry and unfocused.So you know what I mean, I
can totally see why you'd be like, well, please put on a Tapestry
before that, before that other record, you know what I mean? Yeah,
you know. And it speaks tothe intent of both records too,
like I don't think him and I'mset out to put put a happy record
together. No, no, notby any stretch of the imagination. So
you know, of all of thatfeedback, are you still saying that you
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voted from them? Are you stillmaking that claim even though you did not
vote them? Stand? I feellike he got one vote. Well,
I should say and I never saythis phrase, but you know your vote
doesn't matter, right, Like it'salready been decided. Like, Karl,
what are you asking me? BecauseI'm asking about your feedback? Like do
you still think that Music to beMurdered By is the better album? Or
do you think the Tapestry is thebetter record? Pass? It's too hard?
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Do you know that this is justgoing to get harder going forward?
Like this is going to get way, way, way hard. This is
why I'm not choosing anymore. No, you're not choosing anymore. Because social
media spoke up and said please tohave that moment, said we should take
it to the internet. You hadpeople that thought maybe you didn't understand math,
and maybe that you were listening therewas there was a real big question
(06:32):
that you were listening to even theright record at one point. Yeah,
and my my scoring makes total sense. Don't even wanted the internet to handle
it because you thought that you mightwalk outside at some point and get a
bag butt of your head and thrownin a trunk. Well that there's still
a danger of that. I feellike that's and that's for more reasons than
outside of this podcast. So Kyle, as far as you go, like
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agree disagree with with anything that wassaid like specific to that, like God's
all because, I mean, it'swildly impressive, But when you put it
through that lens that James said,I'm like, I didn't think of that.
I think that that song was justuses him to show off on Yeah.
I don't think I wouldn't necessarily meaninganything specific, just so he could
show what he could do. Yeah, that's probably true. People like hit
high notes. And so now youhave thoughts well about that. You didn't
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ask me about specifically about Godzilla.You just put me on the spot and
was like you used to live.So just so you know, every week
we're going to record one of these, so you don't have to claim to
be put on the spot any longer. You're going to ask me again.
Yeah, it's gonna happen every singleweek twice. Yeah, because we're going
to talk about The listeners know thisbecause they listened last week when I was
something about it, and I assumeKyle knows as well. But just to
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recap for you, Yes, everyweek, we're going to discuss the listener
feedback. Yeah we did that,Yeah, we have no I read the
listener feedback and then we started todiscuss it, and you turtle shelled,
and then I went to Kyle whoactually started discussing it with me, and
then you were like, what words, what do you think about the feedback
that we received on Tapestry as towhy it should and over music is being
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murdered by So I think I thoughtyou were going to say, so.
I feel like a lot of peopleare voting in the same way that I
have been voting this entire time.They just didn't agree with me that I
was voting. So like, Ipersonally like, you really need to be
clear that no one's doing it exactlyhow you did it. Yeah, like
you said, for nostalgia reasons,and that's the one they like better.
(08:22):
That's the one that doesn't mean thatfor their preference. That's what it is
like this, So, but no, people were mad about pet Songs because
they said it's just a better record. But I don't like that record that
much. So I understand that it'sit's position in the music industry and the
influence it's had, But I justI would never put on pet songs in
all seriousness. These two records youprobably do like equally for different reasons.
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So it's very hard. So like, if I'm having if I'm cleaning the
house, I'm probably gonna put aneminem just to like rent myself up.
But if I'm just like relaxing,then it's I feel like you're the type
of person that listening to Godzilla wouldmake you take a nap like you did
the work. Yeah, like,hey, hey, I'm not gonna be
able to make it tonight. Whathappened? Well, I put on Godzilla
and now I'm tucking out. I'mjust trying to keep up. I'm wrapping
(09:07):
in my head. Yeah, Icaught like every tenth word and I'm tired.
I mean, any excuse to goodnaps. Back to Godzillata as,
I think that that caught more tractionbecause he set the world record for you
know whatever rapping. And then alsoit features Juice World who passed away,
right, So then it's just thosethose couple of things pushed it further than
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it really needed to go. Sure, it's really hard because they're two really
different records than I both really like. So it's very hard for me to
pick. Whereas today's topic, Ihave a clear one already, there's a
lot, do you really well,I think I know why which one and
why? But anyways, let's talkabout it. For me, it's actually
harder sometimes when the records are reallysimilar. Like there's some matches coming up
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where like, for example, ina couple of weeks we're gonna talk about
Purple Rain and Thriller, and I'mlike, those records are really similar.
Like it's that to me a littlebit harder than taking two records. But
I totally I know what you're saying, Like I mean, without trying to
apples oranges, but like that's withoutwithout trying to be stereotypical about it.
Carol King record and an eminem recordserved two totally different purposes. Oh absolutely,
(10:15):
you know you put one on whenthe party starting, and you well
maintain you can put either on inthe middle of the party. But it
depends on what party you're at,I guess. So anyway, speaking of
this week's matchup, this one forme is difficult real and I have no
doubt that there's gonna be listeners.And it sounds like you guys are both
set on this that as soon asyou hear the name of these two records,
you're just like this one or thatone. I'm we'll get to it
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in the second half, but I'mpretty pretty split on this. So for
this week, the matchup is MetallicaThe Black Album, which knocked out Pink
Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon fromthe Tournament, an album you'll literally hear
the Oh I'm still it was likefour weeks ago and I'm still mad,
Like I was. I was livingthe night that we recorded that episode,
and I'm still mad about it.I still want the hype sticker on the
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Dark Side of the Moon from herefor to say, you know, four
out of four stars, one ofthe top selling records of all time.
And then in quotes there are notenough lyrics, Michelle, you know,
I mean the records world three nonstinkers for tell me that Dark Side the
Moon's got sinkers. Anyways, TheBlack Album by Metallica versus led Zeppelin four,
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which knocked out Garth Brooks No Fences, which I don't think surprised anybody,
Like I think Garth Brooks himself heardabout it and was like, yeah,
well, I mean you know,but I do rememb no, these
are still this is one of mineand one of Kyle's. Yeah, and
yeah, I know that is weird. The thing with Garth, though,
is what my memory of us breakingthat down was that I thought Garth did
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a lot better than I thought hewas going to do. With you,
there were only a couple of songson the record that you said you really
didn't like. Yeah, there wereonly a couple, and they were the
same ones I feel like you whenyou would did your analysis, and I
was like, I feel the sameway. Yeah. What's funny is I
can't even remember the name of theone song that I distinctly pointed out as
not liking. And it was becausewhen I played the record front to back,
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I was like, this song's onhere, you know, And now
I can't even remember what the nameof it was. Again, purposely re
erase that right. Yeah, likeNan, But I do remember the record
doing better than I expected it too. But ultimately Lad's Upling four knocked it
out. So we are going totake a quick break. We're going to
come back and give you our choicesoff the top of our head and then
have a little bit of a chitchat about why we think you guys should
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all the business done from the past, and we have decided or you have
decided that Carol King Tapestry is movingon in the tournament. We are now
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on this week's and it's time todiscuss mattel because Black Album versus led Zeppelind
four. So three of us aregoing to spit out our choices and then
we're gonna have a bit of around table and let you know why we
think what we think. Kyle,between Metallica's Black Album and led Zeppelin's fourth
record, which one are you picking? Mattelica? Is it a secret?
It's a secret Metal Liqua Metallica,don't tell ours. Michelle between metallica Black
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Album and led Zeppland four, whatway are you going? Yeah? I
thought so. Damn it. Thisdoesn't help me. She gets so mad
when I play Mattelica. How areyou wish she was going to choose that?
So my choice, my choice,after at least twelve hours of deliberation
and really really really thinking about it, is I will also pass as Michelle
did last week. So and letme you know what actually, first things
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first, I want to hear whatyou guys have to say about the records.
And then and again we don't needa full annalysis, just why you're
picking the one over the other andthen I'll tell you why I'm undecided unless
one of you makes up my mindfor me. So like Kyle, for
you, what puts the Black album? And we're going by what you said,
like with eminem right, like yougot both of these CDs laying on
the table, you're gonna reach forthe Black album first. Why nothing gets
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me going on like some old Metallica. Uh I love it so as soon
as that saying man starts here,Yeah, off to the races. I
do love LEDs Up One as well, and I could listen to them all
the time really in the background ofwhatever I'm doing, because this just give
means me to chilt listen to.But yeah, well, one thing I
think is a constant on the show, at least between me and you and
I'm you know, rolling up thewindow here between you know, there is
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at least like I don't take anyof this personally, Like I don't think
that you're like no, because LEDsUp One sucks, you know. I
think she is out to hurt myfeelings and purposely gets rid of records like
in order to hurt my feelings.But I don't think you're ever like you
so like you don't have to qualifyit with like, you know, like,
oh, I don't you know hateDublin. If so the two are
laying on the table, you're gonnapick up the black record because you want
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that to get your call. Yeah, yeah, nine times on a tenant,
I would choose the Metallica record overLEDs Up one record. The only
thing, well, no, therecord overall. The only the only argument
I would make on that is theBlack album starts out so damn strong.
Hey mom, you know, butthe Black album starts here and stays there,
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and the Lads out on four goesup and down with da jams on
it for sure, for sure.Yeah, so why are you picking up
Lads up on four? So ifit so between the two, its possible
that I would never on my ownpick up Metallica. And it's not even
that I hate them. I justit's nothing I would turn on on my
own. Like there's bands that Idespise, Metallica is not one of them.
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It's just not one of my myjams. But I really was shocked
how much I loved this record.I never Yes, I was really surprised
by how much you liked it.Yeah, and so from front to back,
And I told you, I thinka lot of it had to do
with I don't know what the namesof a lot of lads up one songs
are called. So I look ata record, I'm like, I don't
know any the songs, and thenI put it on, I'm like,
oh my god, I know allthese songs. And so I was really
shocked, even stuff like I thinkgoing to California and damn it, there's
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another song I can't think of,but Battle of Everywhere, Yes, absolutely,
well, that Moore is exactly whatI'm trying to think of, thank
you, where you would never knowthose by name, And I would like,
when Missy mount Hopp starts, You'regoing to go, oh if I
do, I love this. ButI think when a Battle of Evermore or
going to California starts, you're notgoing to be like, oh, I
know this, but when it getsinto it, you're like, well,
this is a jam. Yeah.Actually a Battle of Evermore was the only
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song on the record that it wasnot my jam, but the whole record
not a stinker, though I don'tthink it's a stinker. Well, I
just Jimmy Page, remember Plant,John Paul Jones are getting up there and
I don't want to cause any ofthe heart attacks. I haven't find out
today that they put a record outwith a stinker out. Yeah you know,
But I was, like I said, I was surprisingly shocked how much
I liked this record. And itwasn't that like I came into it was
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like I never heard leads Upon before. It's just that I didn't know that
all these songs that I loved bylep Zeppel and we're on this album because
it's almost like the yeah yeah sohands and I don't even have one song
with one album with the god Zellasong on it and physical Graffiti. They
have something really similar to a songcalled Cashmir, but but it's not the
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great piece of Yeah. I thinkSean Diddy Combs was on that year.
He had recorded something called a homevideo in his high chair because he was
like two when when Cashmir came out. Who was eating birth to cake?
Probably more than likely. Yeah,here's my thing with the two records,
And I think probably most listeners whoknow me or have listened to the show
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would would assume that I'd automatically leantowards led Zepplin. And this was a
record I brought to the dance right. I'm actually shocked that when you told
me that before, You're like,I can't decide. So here's the thing,
led Zepplin. Four is it's justmonster, Well, it's monster,
you can't. There's literally like ifif the biggest strike against a record is
the battle of evermore than okay,you've made a fine record, like,
but damn it, the Black Album, it's just every song on it is
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a freaking masterpiece of what it istrying to be. You know what I
mean, I mean just off thetop of my head, Sandman said,
but true, nothing else matters andunforgiven where I'm a roam a wolf and
man don't tread on me like andI'm sure I'm probably missing like four but
now me missing four though, leadsto a big detractor for the Black Album
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for me, and I don't thinkit's the Black Album's fault. You have
to remember that when Lads upland fourcame out, almost all records were capped
by the forty two or forty fourminute mark, because that's what an LP
would hold. When CDs came out, you will notice a distinct change to
albums getting a ship ton more filler, on them because now you've had seventy
four minutes to work with and lateron eighty minutes to work with. We
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didn't have to fill it. No, you didn't, but everyone does.
Everyone does. Let me put itthis way. The Beatles have seven or
eight studio records and they have onedouble record between them, Okay, and
I think we can all agree theBeatles are the most prolific songwriters in the
history of music. Right, Sothese guys only needed one double record in
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their entire career, Okay, Andthen everyone else who's put out a CD
since like nineteen eighty five has putout like a seventy five minute So you're
telling me that every damn buddy who'shad access to digital technologies all of a
sudden me became more prolific than LennonMcCartney. Like, there's so much filler
out there. And here's the thingwith the Black Album for me is there's
not a lot of filler, butthere is filler. So that's why I
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can't decide because it's not exactly theirfault that there's filler. It's a product
of the time, you know whatI mean. Like, I'm sure the
record label was like let's get thatthing up near seventy four minutes, and
I don't even know what the runtimeis, it's probably sixty eight or or
something like that. But I feellike if you took let me put it
this way, the Lads Upling fouro'clocks in at a guess probably forty one
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and a half minutes something like that, if you took like four songs off
the Black Album and made it thesame length, I would pick the Black
Album all day, every day aboveLsubling four. Yeah, but that filler
really, like hold it back,like I have the mobile fidelity at forty
five rpm pressing. The greatest thingthat's ever happened to me is there's a
lot of songs that take up awhole side of an LP, so I
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can just skip that whole damn songand just move on because there is enough
filler on that record where I'm like, I don't want to hear that.
I don't want to hear that.Whereas if I ever put Lads up on
four and that's son of a Bitchjust going front to back, Yeah,
it's sixty two minutes the Black Album, Yeah, yeah, see, And
then you know and you're telling methe Metallica had twenty minutes of more brilliants
than Bloodzeppelin, and let's say no, you know, so go into your
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head. If you had to putone on, if it's so like desert
island situation, I'd have to golads up on four, like just because
I don't want to be that madthe restaurant. Like there's times where like,
let me put this two four extrasongs to listen to on a desert
island for the restaurant. I don'twant to hear filler, but like,
okay, let me put it thisway. So with if you take two
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songs on the Black album, we'llsay Wherever I May Roam and Unforgiven.
One of them's like I guess,for lack of a better term, power
ballad, and the other ones astraight rock song. Right, I can
get both of those songs in oneon star to the first half of the
song is a power ballat and thesecond half of the song is as I
would argue as rocking is Wherever IMay Roam. You get a live version
and it's It'll destroy Wherever I MayRoam, but because of cocaine. But
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cocaine, Yeah, cocaine, Soyou know, I'm honestly, as much
as I just absolutely barreled into youand made fun of you last week for
leaving it undecided, I truly amgoing to leave this up to the listeners
now. Having said that, absolutely, desert Island situation gun to my head,
I would I would have to go. Let me put it this way,
if you went over there right nowand you were just going to take
one of one of the other recordsout of my pins, and I'd never
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get to have the other one back. Like if you try and get out
the house with lots Up on four, there's gonna be a fight. And
I have three different pressings of Let'sUp one four, just the one because
I have the definitive one mobile fidelity, which they've never or they I don't
think they've ever done lets Up onefour, but yeah, so I don't
know. That's literally it's I goinginto this week just looking at it,
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I was like, oh, well, this will be easy, and then
nope. Once I like really startto think about it, I was like,
let's make this choice, you know, I mean, that's where we're
at. So you have one foreminem one four one formIn. Yeah,
I was the one to be clearafter the Facebook comments. After the Facebook
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comments, there's still one no excuseme, you have one for Metallica,
one for led Zeppelin, and oneboy I sure can't make up my mind.
Put in an emergency situation, ina break in case of emergency situation,
you feel like, get one ofthose two records out of the house
and a fire. Yeah. Well, you know what's funny is, I'm
sure we're going to have a lotof the same people comment on the Facebook
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page, and I really really reallywant everybody else to get involved in this
and you know, leave your commentsas well. I think a lot of
people when they go to listen tothis might start out that same way,
like oh, I for sure Iwould pick led Zepplin, but then reflect
on the Black Album and be like, wait a minute, or you know,
there's no way the Black Album beatsLEDs upland four and then start to
listen to for and be like,oh damn it, you know, like
this was so I was like,oh my gosh, I like all these
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songs. And this is another thingtoo, where these records to me are
similar enough, like they're not.I mean, Metallica is metal, and
you know, unless it's a reallyuninformed article written by a twelve year old.
Now that's like, you know,our metal man led Zeppelin. You
know, unless somebody doesn't know whatthey're talking about it. I would never
call Zeppelin metal, No, notat all. But they're both rocking enough.
What would you call it Zeppelin rock? They're hard rock. I wouldn't
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call metal. I want it dependson even what you're listening to by them,
Like getting nine records, they're alllike the record before this, led
Zeppel three is like acoustic rock.I mean it starts with Zammigrant Song,
which is like super aggressive, andthen like after the Immigrant song, they
just downshift and then the whole restof the record. Like a lot of
people don't like led Zeppelin three becauseof that, because it's very low key.
Yeah, but yeah, it's funnythat you mentioned listening to or thinking
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you're gonna like one more than theother and then listening to it and being
like, oh no, like Ilike that one better. I regularly listened
to the Black album like all thetime, and when we were really I
couldn't tell when we were doing this. I obviously I listened to four several
times and I was like, oh, man, like jam, jam,
jam after jam, like it's like, god, damn, this is a
really good record. Yeah, andfours, I mean, and even I
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know I say a lot of timessides, you know, and I know
we live in a streaming world andwhatnot, but like, if you look
at the Lad's upling four from aside perspective, like playing in side side
one starts with black Dog and endswith Stairway to Heaven and then you flip
it over and if you like,is there any way they can tap that
side? And then John Paul Jonesstarts laying down the base and keys for
Misty Mountcop and he's like, holdmy beer, you know. So so
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having said that, you know,we talked a lot in the first half
about all the feedback. We somuch appreciate that, you know, if
you want to support the show,you could, like I saw a meme
the other day that was like,you know, you hear shows asking for
like monetary support all the time,and the meme was like, you know,
other ways to support a show thatwhere you don't have to spend money,
like leaving comments, likes, youknow, sharing and whatnot, and
it was like these all costs zerodollars, Like it really helps us out.
(25:47):
I was really excited to have allthis feedback, absolutely to share so
and I want to have more.And you know, while you still can't
vote from and him, maybe Idon't know, cheer him up, mentioned
his name and help him out.So this episode, you guys will hear
this on Friday. And I alsokind of screwed it up last week with
the Facebook post. When this postgoes up for saying, hey, this
episode's out, go listen to itnow. Just go ahead and leave your
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comments and your votes on there,you know, because it was kind of
convoluted the way I did it,and it actually it took a lesson from
California being like, what do wedo then? That's not that's that's uh,
not a poke at him, that'sa poke at me doing it wrong.
So we'll just do it that way. So you can, you know,
once you hear the episode, youcan just go back to that post
and leave your thoughts and everything,so you don't have to leave a ton
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of reasons why. I personally couldread that stuff all day, but you
don't have to. You can literallygo in there and just put bloo Zeppelin,
you know, or Metallica or Metallica, Focho or you knows yeah yeah
has tag no Stinkers. So havingsaid that, boy oh boy, next
week, Oh, next week isgoing to be a fun one. Next
week we have Pearl jam Ten versusand I'm trying to find a nice way
(26:52):
to say this probably the most hatedalbum in this tournament because of the the
debacle that occurred with it. Nextweek is Pearl jam Ten versus Dermot Kennedy's
Without Fear, and I would mentionthat you might want to preach heer up,
dear Dermot Kennedy for how this isgoing to go, because I'm pretty
sure there are people who have neverposted on any of our social media who
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are going to get all of theirfriends to be mad at this record.
And because of the pet sound,tobaccle, you know, own to each
their own. So we greatly appreciateit. We I'm having a lot of
fun with these. I think theseare fun sells, So we greatly appreciate
you guys listening. Make sure tobe active on the Facebook page and uh
let us know what you think ofthis and uh prepare for battle next week.
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So all right, thanks a lot, guys. See it by E
Here we are. It's Bonus episodenumber ten. My name is Russ,
and Kyle is along with me,and of course, oh, Michelle's here.
Michelle's here as well, so that'sfun evan Michelle along for the ride.
Yeah. So, while this isan episode ten, never get old.
Yeah, that's not what the listenerssay. So we are you are?
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You definitely are. So while weare on episode ten of the Bonus
Tournaments, we're actually in week twoof new matches and a new format because
people love Michelle so much that theydidn't want her to be labored with the
voting. So I appreciate that,I really do. Yeah. So now
the voting is and winners are decidedon by our Facebook page, as opposed
to Michelle, who is so popularno one wanted to hear her decide anything.
(00:53):
I appreciate that, though I don'twant to decide anymore. Right sure.
So last week, in under thisnew format and new matchup, we
had Eminem Music to be murdered byversus Carol King's tapestry, and in a
landslide, Carol king Tapestry took that, I think, and I the only
own voted. You did not votefor Eminem. You almost voted form.
My initial instinct was Eminem, andthen you convinced me that it could be
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Tapestry. Well well, and Ikept trying to make it fair on the
Facebook page, like I made atleast three supper post being like yeah,
like I just wanted, like Idon't know, somebody to contact his mom
or something and be like we're allgood terms. Now I vote for him.
You know, did you start afake Facebook page and then go comment
on it and say Eminem, Itotally should have should have yeah, and
(01:38):
just had to be like a relativeof his name or something. But anyways,
yeah, so, as promised,I do want to share some of
this feedback because some of the stuff, some of it's real straightforward. We
did have one person, which istotally acceptable, just put tapestry like no,
I'm sorry, we had one tapestryand we had one tapestry Fox Show
posted with and again and I'll coverthis again later, like we don't need
you to give us a whole tonof feedback on it. If you want
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too, there's some great stuff thatwas left. You know, if you
want to, that's totally cool too, but you certainly, you know,
don't have to. You can justgo on the page and write leave your
vote, and that's it. Sowe got one that more or less went
the sentimental routes, aid Tapestry andlike most people, I have found memories.
Every time I hear I feel theearth move under my feet, I
know it'll be a fun ride,and then mentioned a couple other cuts off
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the record, and that's how Ifeel about the album, Like when I
dropped the needle on Tapestry, assoon as the piano comes in, for
I feel the earth moving, itfeels like home. Yeah, you know,
like it's a it's a sentimental thingfor me. Another interesting one that
I thought was kind of something thatI pointed out to was a person said
they're going with Tapestry. Nothing againsteminem album other than it's not in his
top two for him, which isyou know what I was saying. It
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was like, for me, it'sjust I like the record, but it's
not like if I think his secondor third album could have put up a
better showing. I was gonna saythis earlier, is that if it was
an earlier record of his, itwould have done better. I think I
feel like a lot of people aren't, yeah, listening to it. A
lot yet, Yeah, that's yeah, that's very possible. Had a couple
more in depth type comments, youknow, like this here is kind of
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speaks to what I was talking aboutwith the influence of Tapestry, Like there
was a common said, imagine whatthe world music music world would be without
Tapestry, that it changed musical landscapeand open the door for women, and
you know where would the music landscapep today without music be murdered by?
And I see both sides of that, you know, the only the like,
yes, it's bright new, soyou can't say, well, it
didn't influence anything yet because it's youknow, it's right new. But it's
also eminem doing more of the same. So it's not like there's anything innovative
(03:29):
on it that we could say,oh, well, let's say, able
to make music to be ordered bywas because of the earlier records he made.
Yeah, for sure, for sure. And then they go out to
mention some records in here that Idon't even know why they get to get
mentioned as far as like music thatchanges the musical landscape, They mentioned pet
Sounds, which we know is garbage. I mean that, yeah, I
mean I didn't even make it outthe first round of the tournament. That
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pos Thriller, Thriller which is stillin contention in the tournament by some miracle,
that's still and Dark Side Moving.That giant piece of crap got taken
out of the tournament already. Imade sure to help you guys out with
that, right. Never mind,Sergeant Peppers. The chronic I think is
a great one that's mentioned, youknow, I mean that, like the
nineties rap doesn't happen without I wasas one of my picks, but I
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ended up choosing as tell a storyagain, that is the story. Rewind
and listen. But yeah, andthen he also listed Black Sabbath's first record
and What's going On by Marvin Gay, you know, all all stuff,
a lot of great records that couldhave made the tournament as well. And
then we did have one of ourlisteners from Northern California, James Porter,
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really really left an in depth pieceon both records, which I thought was
great, Like you could really tellhe spent a lot of time on both
and a lot of what he saidon Tapestry we covered on the show.
But as far as music to bemurdered by, he had a couple of
really astute points that he that hepointed out. He said, the beats
are great, the talents undeniable.There were moments on the album where I
could connect with the message, likedarkness, really powerful, full, but
(05:00):
a lot of the album was unrelatable. And here's one thing that I thought
too was rhymes for the sake ofrhyme, like blinding speed at the end
of Godzilla. Even though that's impressive, there wasn't much said to make an
impact. And I didn't think aboutthat at all when I was listening to
it. And then the wrap upof this message says, in the end,
I left Tapestry invigorated and upbeat,and I left musically murdered by feeling
(05:21):
pretty disconnected and angry and unfocused.So you know what I mean, I
can totally see why you'd be like, well, please put on a Tapestry
before that, before that other record, you know what I mean? Yeah,
you know. And it speaks tothe intent of both records too,
like I don't think him and I'mset out to put put a happy record
together. No, no, notby any stretch of the imagination. So
you know, of all of thatfeedback, are you still saying that you
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voted from them? Are you stillmaking that claim even though you did not
vote them? Stand? I feellike he got one vote. Well,
I should say and I never saythis phrase, but you know your vote
doesn't matter, right, Like it'salready been decided. Like, Karl,
what are you asking me? BecauseI'm asking about your feedback? Like do
you still think that Music to beMurdered By is the better album? Or
do you think the Tapestry is thebetter record? Pass? It's too hard?
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Do you know that this is justgoing to get harder going forward?
Like this is going to get way, way, way hard. This is
why I'm not choosing anymore. No, you're not choosing anymore. Because social
media spoke up and said please tohave that moment, said we should take
it to the internet. You hadpeople that thought maybe you didn't understand math,
and maybe that you were listening therewas there was a real big question
(06:32):
that you were listening to even theright record at one point. Yeah,
and my my scoring makes total sense. Don't even wanted the internet to handle
it because you thought that you mightwalk outside at some point and get a
bag butt of your head and thrownin a trunk. Well that there's still
a danger of that. I feellike that's and that's for more reasons than
outside of this podcast. So Kyle, as far as you go, like
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agree disagree with with anything that wassaid like specific to that, like God's
all because, I mean, it'swildly impressive, But when you put it
through that lens that James said,I'm like, I didn't think of that.
I think that that song was justuses him to show off on Yeah.
I don't think I wouldn't necessarily meaninganything specific, just so he could
show what he could do. Yeah, that's probably true. People like hit
high notes. And so now youhave thoughts well about that. You didn't
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ask me about specifically about Godzilla.You just put me on the spot and
was like you used to live.So just so you know, every week
we're going to record one of these, so you don't have to claim to
be put on the spot any longer. You're going to ask me again.
Yeah, it's gonna happen every singleweek twice. Yeah, because we're going
to talk about The listeners know thisbecause they listened last week when I was
something about it, and I assumeKyle knows as well. But just to
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recap for you, Yes, everyweek, we're going to discuss the listener
feedback. Yeah we did that,Yeah, we have no I read the
listener feedback and then we started todiscuss it, and you turtle shelled,
and then I went to Kyle whoactually started discussing it with me, and
then you were like, what words, what do you think about the feedback
that we received on Tapestry as towhy it should and over music is being
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murdered by So I think I thoughtyou were going to say, so.
I feel like a lot of peopleare voting in the same way that I
have been voting this entire time.They just didn't agree with me that I
was voting. So like, Ipersonally like, you really need to be
clear that no one's doing it exactlyhow you did it. Yeah, like
you said, for nostalgia reasons,and that's the one they like better.
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That's the one that doesn't mean thatfor their preference. That's what it is
like this, So, but no, people were mad about pet Songs because
they said it's just a better record. But I don't like that record that
much. So I understand that it'sit's position in the music industry and the
influence it's had, But I justI would never put on pet songs in
all seriousness. These two records youprobably do like equally for different reasons.
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So it's very hard. So like, if I'm having if I'm cleaning the
house, I'm probably gonna put aneminem just to like rent myself up.
But if I'm just like relaxing,then it's I feel like you're the type
of person that listening to Godzilla wouldmake you take a nap like you did
the work. Yeah, like,hey, hey, I'm not gonna be
able to make it tonight. Whathappened? Well, I put on Godzilla
and now I'm tucking out. I'mjust trying to keep up. I'm wrapping
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in my head. Yeah, Icaught like every tenth word and I'm tired.
I mean, any excuse to goodnaps. Back to Godzillata as,
I think that that caught more tractionbecause he set the world record for you
know whatever rapping. And then alsoit features Juice World who passed away,
right, So then it's just thosethose couple of things pushed it further than
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it really needed to go. Sure, it's really hard because they're two really
different records than I both really like. So it's very hard for me to
pick. Whereas today's topic, Ihave a clear one already, there's a
lot, do you really well,I think I know why which one and
why? But anyways, let's talkabout it. For me, it's actually
harder sometimes when the records are reallysimilar. Like there's some matches coming up
(09:52):
where like, for example, ina couple of weeks we're gonna talk about
Purple Rain and Thriller, and I'mlike, those records are really similar.
Like it's that to me a littlebit harder than taking two records. But
I totally I know what you're saying, Like I mean, without trying to
apples oranges, but like that's withoutwithout trying to be stereotypical about it.
Carol King record and an eminem recordserved two totally different purposes. Oh absolutely,
(10:15):
you know you put one on whenthe party starting, and you well
maintain you can put either on inthe middle of the party. But it
depends on what party you're at,I guess. So anyway, speaking of
this week's matchup, this one forme is difficult real and I have no
doubt that there's gonna be listeners.And it sounds like you guys are both
set on this that as soon asyou hear the name of these two records,
you're just like this one or thatone. I'm we'll get to it
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in the second half, but I'mpretty pretty split on this. So for
this week, the matchup is MetallicaThe Black Album, which knocked out Pink
Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon fromthe Tournament, an album you'll literally hear
the Oh I'm still it was likefour weeks ago and I'm still mad,
Like I was. I was livingthe night that we recorded that episode,
and I'm still mad about it.I still want the hype sticker on the
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Dark Side of the Moon from herefor to say, you know, four
out of four stars, one ofthe top selling records of all time.
And then in quotes there are notenough lyrics, Michelle, you know,
I mean the records world three nonstinkers for tell me that Dark Side the
Moon's got sinkers. Anyways, TheBlack Album by Metallica versus led Zeppelin four,
(11:22):
which knocked out Garth Brooks No Fences, which I don't think surprised anybody,
Like I think Garth Brooks himself heardabout it and was like, yeah,
well, I mean you know,but I do rememb no, these
are still this is one of mineand one of Kyle's. Yeah, and
yeah, I know that is weird. The thing with Garth, though,
is what my memory of us breakingthat down was that I thought Garth did
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a lot better than I thought hewas going to do. With you,
there were only a couple of songson the record that you said you really
didn't like. Yeah, there wereonly a couple, and they were the
same ones I feel like you whenyou would did your analysis, and I
was like, I feel the sameway. Yeah. What's funny is I
can't even remember the name of theone song that I distinctly pointed out as
not liking. And it was becausewhen I played the record front to back,
(12:05):
I was like, this song's onhere, you know, And now
I can't even remember what the nameof it was. Again, purposely re
erase that right. Yeah, likeNan, But I do remember the record
doing better than I expected it too. But ultimately Lad's Upling four knocked it
out. So we are going totake a quick break. We're going to
come back and give you our choicesoff the top of our head and then
have a little bit of a chitchat about why we think you guys should
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but we'll play anything the captures ourattention and imagination. Why it's right there
in the title. You'll never guesswhat the F stands for. So with
all the business done from the past, and we have decided or you have
decided that Carol King Tapestry is movingon in the tournament. We are now
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on this week's and it's time todiscuss mattel because Black Album versus led Zeppelind
four. So three of us aregoing to spit out our choices and then
we're gonna have a bit of around table and let you know why we
think what we think. Kyle,between Metallica's Black Album and led Zeppelin's fourth
record, which one are you picking? Mattelica? Is it a secret?
It's a secret Metal Liqua Metallica,don't tell ours. Michelle between metallica Black
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Album and led Zeppland four, whatway are you going? Yeah? I
thought so. Damn it. Thisdoesn't help me. She gets so mad
when I play Mattelica. How areyou wish she was going to choose that?
So my choice, my choice,after at least twelve hours of deliberation
and really really really thinking about it, is I will also pass as Michelle
did last week. So and letme you know what actually, first things
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first, I want to hear whatyou guys have to say about the records.
And then and again we don't needa full annalysis, just why you're
picking the one over the other andthen I'll tell you why I'm undecided unless
one of you makes up my mindfor me. So like Kyle, for
you, what puts the Black album? And we're going by what you said,
like with eminem right, like yougot both of these CDs laying on
the table, you're gonna reach forthe Black album first. Why nothing gets
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me going on like some old Metallica. Uh I love it so as soon
as that saying man starts here,Yeah, off to the races. I
do love LEDs Up One as well, and I could listen to them all
the time really in the background ofwhatever I'm doing, because this just give
means me to chilt listen to.But yeah, well, one thing I
think is a constant on the show, at least between me and you and
I'm you know, rolling up thewindow here between you know, there is
(15:28):
at least like I don't take anyof this personally, Like I don't think
that you're like no, because LEDsUp One sucks, you know. I
think she is out to hurt myfeelings and purposely gets rid of records like
in order to hurt my feelings.But I don't think you're ever like you
so like you don't have to qualifyit with like, you know, like,
oh, I don't you know hateDublin. If so the two are
laying on the table, you're gonnapick up the black record because you want
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that to get your call. Yeah, yeah, nine times on a tenant,
I would choose the Metallica record overLEDs Up one record. The only
thing, well, no, therecord overall. The only the only argument
I would make on that is theBlack album starts out so damn strong.
Hey mom, you know, butthe Black album starts here and stays there,
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and the Lads out on four goesup and down with da jams on
it for sure, for sure.Yeah, so why are you picking up
Lads up on four? So ifit so between the two, its possible
that I would never on my ownpick up Metallica. And it's not even
that I hate them. I justit's nothing I would turn on on my
own. Like there's bands that Idespise, Metallica is not one of them.
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It's just not one of my myjams. But I really was shocked
how much I loved this record.I never Yes, I was really surprised
by how much you liked it.Yeah, and so from front to back,
And I told you, I thinka lot of it had to do
with I don't know what the namesof a lot of lads up one songs
are called. So I look ata record, I'm like, I don't
know any the songs, and thenI put it on, I'm like,
oh my god, I know allthese songs. And so I was really
shocked, even stuff like I thinkgoing to California and damn it, there's
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another song I can't think of,but Battle of Everywhere, Yes, absolutely,
well, that Moore is exactly whatI'm trying to think of, thank
you, where you would never knowthose by name, And I would like,
when Missy mount Hopp starts, You'regoing to go, oh if I
do, I love this. ButI think when a Battle of Evermore or
going to California starts, you're notgoing to be like, oh, I
know this, but when it getsinto it, you're like, well,
this is a jam. Yeah.Actually a Battle of Evermore was the only
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song on the record that it wasnot my jam, but the whole record
not a stinker, though I don'tthink it's a stinker. Well, I
just Jimmy Page, remember Plant,John Paul Jones are getting up there and
I don't want to cause any ofthe heart attacks. I haven't find out
today that they put a record outwith a stinker out. Yeah you know,
But I was, like I said, I was surprisingly shocked how much
I liked this record. And itwasn't that like I came into it was
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like I never heard leads Upon before. It's just that I didn't know that
all these songs that I loved bylep Zeppel and we're on this album because
it's almost like the yeah yeah sohands and I don't even have one song
with one album with the god Zellasong on it and physical Graffiti. They
have something really similar to a songcalled Cashmir, but but it's not the
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great piece of Yeah. I thinkSean Diddy Combs was on that year.
He had recorded something called a homevideo in his high chair because he was
like two when when Cashmir came out. Who was eating birth to cake?
Probably more than likely. Yeah,here's my thing with the two records,
And I think probably most listeners whoknow me or have listened to the show
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would would assume that I'd automatically leantowards led Zepplin. And this was a
record I brought to the dance right. I'm actually shocked that when you told
me that before, You're like,I can't decide. So here's the thing,
led Zepplin. Four is it's justmonster, Well, it's monster,
you can't. There's literally like ifif the biggest strike against a record is
the battle of evermore than okay,you've made a fine record, like,
but damn it, the Black Album, it's just every song on it is
(18:45):
a freaking masterpiece of what it istrying to be. You know what I
mean, I mean just off thetop of my head, Sandman said,
but true, nothing else matters andunforgiven where I'm a roam a wolf and
man don't tread on me like andI'm sure I'm probably missing like four but
now me missing four though, leadsto a big detractor for the Black Album
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for me, and I don't thinkit's the Black Album's fault. You have
to remember that when Lads upland fourcame out, almost all records were capped
by the forty two or forty fourminute mark, because that's what an LP
would hold. When CDs came out, you will notice a distinct change to
albums getting a ship ton more filler, on them because now you've had seventy
four minutes to work with and lateron eighty minutes to work with. We
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didn't have to fill it. No, you didn't, but everyone does.
Everyone does. Let me put itthis way. The Beatles have seven or
eight studio records and they have onedouble record between them, Okay, and
I think we can all agree theBeatles are the most prolific songwriters in the
history of music. Right, Sothese guys only needed one double record in
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their entire career, Okay, Andthen everyone else who's put out a CD
since like nineteen eighty five has putout like a seventy five minute So you're
telling me that every damn buddy who'shad access to digital technologies all of a
sudden me became more prolific than LennonMcCartney. Like, there's so much filler
out there. And here's the thingwith the Black Album for me is there's
not a lot of filler, butthere is filler. So that's why I
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can't decide because it's not exactly theirfault that there's filler. It's a product
of the time, you know whatI mean. Like, I'm sure the
record label was like let's get thatthing up near seventy four minutes, and
I don't even know what the runtimeis, it's probably sixty eight or or
something like that. But I feellike if you took let me put it
this way, the Lads Upling fouro'clocks in at a guess probably forty one
(20:30):
and a half minutes something like that, if you took like four songs off
the Black Album and made it thesame length, I would pick the Black
Album all day, every day aboveLsubling four. Yeah, but that filler
really, like hold it back,like I have the mobile fidelity at forty
five rpm pressing. The greatest thingthat's ever happened to me is there's a
lot of songs that take up awhole side of an LP, so I
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can just skip that whole damn songand just move on because there is enough
filler on that record where I'm like, I don't want to hear that.
I don't want to hear that.Whereas if I ever put Lads up on
four and that's son of a Bitchjust going front to back, Yeah,
it's sixty two minutes the Black Album, Yeah, yeah, see, And
then you know and you're telling methe Metallica had twenty minutes of more brilliants
than Bloodzeppelin, and let's say no, you know, so go into your
(21:15):
head. If you had to putone on, if it's so like desert
island situation, I'd have to golads up on four, like just because
I don't want to be that madthe restaurant. Like there's times where like,
let me put this two four extrasongs to listen to on a desert
island for the restaurant. I don'twant to hear filler, but like,
okay, let me put it thisway. So with if you take two
(21:37):
songs on the Black album, we'llsay Wherever I May Roam and Unforgiven.
One of them's like I guess,for lack of a better term, power
ballad, and the other ones astraight rock song. Right, I can
get both of those songs in oneon star to the first half of the
song is a power ballat and thesecond half of the song is as I
would argue as rocking is Wherever IMay Roam. You get a live version
and it's It'll destroy Wherever I MayRoam, but because of cocaine. But
(22:02):
cocaine, Yeah, cocaine, Soyou know, I'm honestly, as much
as I just absolutely barreled into youand made fun of you last week for
leaving it undecided, I truly amgoing to leave this up to the listeners
now. Having said that, absolutely, desert Island situation gun to my head,
I would I would have to go. Let me put it this way,
if you went over there right nowand you were just going to take
one of one of the other recordsout of my pins, and I'd never
(22:25):
get to have the other one back. Like if you try and get out
the house with lots Up on four, there's gonna be a fight. And
I have three different pressings of Let'sUp one four, just the one because
I have the definitive one mobile fidelity, which they've never or they I don't
think they've ever done lets Up onefour, but yeah, so I don't
know. That's literally it's I goinginto this week just looking at it,
(22:48):
I was like, oh, well, this will be easy, and then
nope. Once I like really startto think about it, I was like,
let's make this choice, you know, I mean, that's where we're
at. So you have one foreminem one four one formIn. Yeah,
I was the one to be clearafter the Facebook comments. After the Facebook
(23:08):
comments, there's still one no excuseme, you have one for Metallica,
one for led Zeppelin, and oneboy I sure can't make up my mind.
Put in an emergency situation, ina break in case of emergency situation,
you feel like, get one ofthose two records out of the house
and a fire. Yeah. Well, you know what's funny is, I'm
sure we're going to have a lotof the same people comment on the Facebook
(23:29):
page, and I really really reallywant everybody else to get involved in this
and you know, leave your commentsas well. I think a lot of
people when they go to listen tothis might start out that same way,
like oh, I for sure Iwould pick led Zepplin, but then reflect
on the Black Album and be like, wait a minute, or you know,
there's no way the Black Album beatsLEDs upland four and then start to
listen to for and be like,oh damn it, you know, like
this was so I was like,oh my gosh, I like all these
(23:51):
songs. And this is another thingtoo, where these records to me are
similar enough, like they're not.I mean, Metallica is metal, and
you know, unless it's a reallyuninformed article written by a twelve year old.
Now that's like, you know,our metal man led Zeppelin. You
know, unless somebody doesn't know whatthey're talking about it. I would never
call Zeppelin metal, No, notat all. But they're both rocking enough.
What would you call it Zeppelin rock? They're hard rock. I wouldn't
(24:14):
call metal. I want it dependson even what you're listening to by them,
Like getting nine records, they're alllike the record before this, led
Zeppel three is like acoustic rock.I mean it starts with Zammigrant Song,
which is like super aggressive, andthen like after the Immigrant song, they
just downshift and then the whole restof the record. Like a lot of
people don't like led Zeppelin three becauseof that, because it's very low key.
Yeah, but yeah, it's funnythat you mentioned listening to or thinking
(24:37):
you're gonna like one more than theother and then listening to it and being
like, oh no, like Ilike that one better. I regularly listened
to the Black album like all thetime, and when we were really I
couldn't tell when we were doing this. I obviously I listened to four several
times and I was like, oh, man, like jam, jam,
jam after jam, like it's like, god, damn, this is a
really good record. Yeah, andfours, I mean, and even I
(25:00):
know I say a lot of timessides, you know, and I know
we live in a streaming world andwhatnot, but like, if you look
at the Lad's upling four from aside perspective, like playing in side side
one starts with black Dog and endswith Stairway to Heaven and then you flip
it over and if you like,is there any way they can tap that
side? And then John Paul Jonesstarts laying down the base and keys for
Misty Mountcop and he's like, holdmy beer, you know. So so
(25:22):
having said that, you know,we talked a lot in the first half
about all the feedback. We somuch appreciate that, you know, if
you want to support the show,you could, like I saw a meme
the other day that was like,you know, you hear shows asking for
like monetary support all the time,and the meme was like, you know,
other ways to support a show thatwhere you don't have to spend money,
like leaving comments, likes, youknow, sharing and whatnot, and
it was like these all costs zerodollars, Like it really helps us out.
(25:47):
I was really excited to have allthis feedback, absolutely to share so
and I want to have more.And you know, while you still can't
vote from and him, maybe Idon't know, cheer him up, mentioned
his name and help him out.So this episode, you guys will hear
this on Friday. And I alsokind of screwed it up last week with
the Facebook post. When this postgoes up for saying, hey, this
episode's out, go listen to itnow. Just go ahead and leave your
(26:07):
comments and your votes on there,you know, because it was kind of
convoluted the way I did it,and it actually it took a lesson from
California being like, what do wedo then? That's not that's that's uh,
not a poke at him, that'sa poke at me doing it wrong.
So we'll just do it that way. So you can, you know,
once you hear the episode, youcan just go back to that post
and leave your thoughts and everything,so you don't have to leave a ton
(26:30):
of reasons why. I personally couldread that stuff all day, but you
don't have to. You can literallygo in there and just put bloo Zeppelin,
you know, or Metallica or Metallica, Focho or you knows yeah yeah
has tag no Stinkers. So havingsaid that, boy oh boy, next
week, Oh, next week isgoing to be a fun one. Next
week we have Pearl jam Ten versusand I'm trying to find a nice way
(26:52):
to say this probably the most hatedalbum in this tournament because of the the
debacle that occurred with it. Nextweek is Pearl jam Ten versus Dermot Kennedy's
Without Fear, and I would mentionthat you might want to preach heer up,
dear Dermot Kennedy for how this isgoing to go, because I'm pretty
sure there are people who have neverposted on any of our social media who
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are going to get all of theirfriends to be mad at this record.
And because of the pet sound,tobaccle, you know, own to each
their own. So we greatly appreciateit. We I'm having a lot of
fun with these. I think theseare fun sells, So we greatly appreciate
you guys listening. Make sure tobe active on the Facebook page and uh
let us know what you think ofthis and uh prepare for battle next week.
(27:40):
So all right, thanks a lot, guys. See it by E
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