July 31, 2023 • 30 mins
It's back! We are doing our first ever re-release of a very popular series of episodes from our past. Join Michelle, Kyle & Russ as we rip through a very exciting album tournament. Kyle picked 8 albums for the tournament and so did Russ, bringing the grand total of albums to 16. Each week, Kyle & Russ state their case for why they're cjosen album should win, then Michelle picked the winner.
Some music giants are among those chosen for battle: Aerosmith, Beach Boys, Carole King, Eminem, Fleetwood Mac, Garth Brooks, Guns N' Roses, Led Zeppelin, Metallica, Michael Jackson, Pearl Jam, Pink Floyd, Prince, Silversun Pickups, The Weeknd and more square up over the course of the tournament.
Settle in, listen up and check out these bonus episodes over 16 weeks! It's the first re-release, trip down memory lane with your favorite podcast, the Infectious Grove Podcast!
Some music giants are among those chosen for battle: Aerosmith, Beach Boys, Carole King, Eminem, Fleetwood Mac, Garth Brooks, Guns N' Roses, Led Zeppelin, Metallica, Michael Jackson, Pearl Jam, Pink Floyd, Prince, Silversun Pickups, The Weeknd and more square up over the course of the tournament.
Settle in, listen up and check out these bonus episodes over 16 weeks! It's the first re-release, trip down memory lane with your favorite podcast, the Infectious Grove Podcast!
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Hey, guess what. It's thefinal round of the first part of the
Infectius Screw podcast turning. Don't evengive me a chance at chicken button.
Oh okay, you know, holdon one second. Well we'll go again.
Hey guess what chicken butt? Allright, So, as you can
tell, and I swear to guywho, we're not recording these episodes all
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on one day where we're just likeslap having now. But anyways, we
are at the final part of thefirst round of the Infectius Grew podcast tournament.
As you all know, this hasbeen very informal and we're just kind
of screwing around, picked a coupleof records a piece and putting them up
against each other. Up until thispoint it has been decided by Michelle,
and then social media decided that Michelledid not deserve that ability. Yeah,
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so starting with the next episode thingswill change. But I'll get into that
a little bit later. And lastone was a little bit of a cliffhanger
because, yeah, because Michelle couldnot decide between Fleetwood mac Rumors and Prints
of the Revolution Purple Rain. Sowe put that one to a social media
poll and Purple Rain edged out Fleetwoodmac Rumors. So that we'll move on
in the tournament, and it onlyedged it out by two votes, and
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I the last, the last twovotes that I know of that we got
was the lead singer of the Nixonsand my son, both equally important to
the music world. But it waslike my son was like adamant and he
loves Fleetwood Mac but he it wasthe same way I was. He was
like, no, you don't understand. Like and Zach Malloy of the Nixons,
I've never heard a more definitive thanthat. So yeah, so anyways,
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fine, yeah, it's not they'reboth. Hold on, you'll get
all mad if I don't do it. Whereas it they're both. I mean
they're both, you know, Imean they're both fantastic. I love both
records. But it's literally you comeup to a situation where one edges out
the other, you know, andthat's where that's where we found ourselves.
So having said that, this weekwe have a record from about fifteen or
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so years ago, Silver Pickups Carnavas. Is this their debut record? I
should probably know that, but Ithink I'll tell you in my assessment of
the record, I'll tell you whyI think it is it might be.
Yeah, I think it might beas well. Um. And then a
person who's very much not his debutrecord in nineteen eighty three and Michael or
I'm sorry nineteen eighty two and MichaelJackson Thriller. So I could be wrong,
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but I think he'd been around themusic industry a couple of years before
Thriller a couple of years later.Yeah, three, yeah, it was
something like it. Well, Ithink he put Thriller out when he was
twenty four, and he'd only beenin the business since he was five.
So yeah, let's not very long. Yeah. Yeah. And actually,
Brookshields made a joke at his memorialActually it said she started when she was
eighteen months so she used to jokewith Michael about that he was a slacker
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because he got into the business atfive. Um. And so anyways,
enough pomp and circumstance, And asas Marty de Berghey says in spinal Tap,
enough of my yacking. Let's moveon. Are you about to tell
me if that's their debut record?According to Wikipedia, it was their first
record. I see, Okay,that's what I thought. And I'll tell
you why when we get into theassessment of the record, but it just
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kind of struck me as a debutrecord for a couple of different reasons.
So having said that, Kyle,share with us your thoughts on Silver Sun
pickups kind of us. Okay,so obviously we had well yeah, we
had no idea, you know,we just chose records and they got Are
you pre apologizing for let up againsteach other? All right, well thanks
for joining us on this episode.You withdrawing so you guys can't see when
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you're listening to this. But forsome reason, Kyle has a white flag.
He's panic. Let's talk squarely aboutthis record, you know, because
there's there there's a lot positive toit. No, no, yeah,
I agree, but so I Iwould have never in my life chosen this
record to go up against. Sowith that being said, I absolutely love
this record and it has a specialplace in my heart because I used to
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listen to it all the time,and I get all the feels back when
I listened to it. Um.I can also listen to it all the
way through, like from front toback we did earlier. Yeah, and
I just I get lost in theentire thing, popping around the house,
always bopping. Um. The onlyI had a couple of issues with it,
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but they were like minor overall.Like the first track on it,
just to me wasn't like that's nota track one like it would be a
great song anywhere else on the record. But and in this album's defense,
again, this tournament has been filledwith monster number first tracks, you know
what I mean. I mean,obviously not once by Pearl Jam. We
agree that's terrible over right, ProbablyI'm gonna run. I'm gonna run back
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to the table. But like,you know, just off that wouldn't it
be nice? And our Sandman,you know what I mean, Like we've
got these monster openers, and thenthis one. I started the record and
I was like, you know,like I just it didn't kick right at
all. The only other minor thing, and I have notes for every song
on the record, but the onlyother minor thing that I noticed was this
is why I say I kind ofthought it was their first one. I
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will say first things first, I'vealways heard of the Silver Sun Pickups,
but this is the first record I'veever listened to by them. I would
be willing to bet that from theirsecond record on their sound evolved quite a
bit because this and I don't meanthis in a bad way. A lot
of songs on this sound like midAero Smashing Pumpkins to me, like Melancholly
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and Infant Saner Spicy's Scary Scary atthose records. Yeah, and again I
don't I love those records. Idon't mean that in a bad way,
but it to me sounded like theycame out heavily influenced with from that.
And I would be surprised if theband Team and Paula hasn't heard a lot
of this, because there's a lotof sounds that they pioneered around the midpoint
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of this record where it becomes itsown thing, that are absolutely canvassed again
later on Team and Paula Records.So I thought a lot about that,
and then there was the one thingthat was weird for me was what track
was it? I didn't put thename down. The second track on the
record starts out like reminiscent of CrosstownTraffic by Jimmy Hendricks and then folds into
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the smashing pumpkin sound, and Iwas like, but you had the Crosstown
Traffic thing going, like, youknow. The only um stinker on the
record for me was a rusted Wheelin the middle of it was out of
place on the record. I thought, no, and that's I didn't you
know. This goes back to meviewing it as a whole thing, and
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it just like I liked the song, but I didn't like it as part
of the record, and I getout someday I'll play Pearl James has an
album called No Code that I feelthat way about. I love every song
on the record. When you playthem in a row, I get real
mad, like I just don't likethe record. So I feel like this
is the people. I think alot of people only know them because of
Lazy Ie, which is on thisrecord, but like they have, in
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my opinion, a lot more tooffer than lazy Ie. I had that
as one of my notes as Ibet Tam and Paula loves that song.
Um. The second song on therecord is called well thought Out Okay,
and I thought when I first readit, because I didn't gasses. You
said you thought twinkies, Yes,I thought there, oh, no,
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twinkles got it. When I firstbrought it up on Spotify, I thought
that twinkle twinkies? Is it beforelunchtime? Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah?
But I cut you off. Whatwere you going to say about,
like how they have a lot moreoffer than Lazy I. Yes, I
like the album to me, soundsand now that we know that it's their
debut album, or we think thatit's their debut album, it sounds rough
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and raw and edgy and like unpolished. Yeah, and I like that about
it, um and it just peopleknow them of because of Lazy I.
It's a wildly popular song. Butthere's you know, like Rusted Wheel I
like even more than Lazy I wouldthink, Yeah, And I should be
clear. I guess stinker wasn't theright word. I don't just throw that
word around like someone else on theshow. You obviously do, because that
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is not a stinker, right,But it wasn't. I felt like it
was a stinker on this record andfine on its own, like hold on,
let me look at my notes again. There was another song later,
three Seed, that is a reallydown temple number, but I felt like
it went with the flow of therecord more than Rusted Wheel. Did you
know what I'm saying? Again,none of this makes it a bad experience.
It's funny about this. I don'tthink that I've ever not listened to
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this record all the way through.Like every time I listened to it,
I listened to the entire thing.So I've never listened maybe Lazy Eye on
its own, like I playlist orsomething. Yeah, but like literally,
every every time I've listened to thisrecord or any song on it, it's
been all the way through. Yeah, So it's it's different to hear people
be like, oh, well,you know it makes sense if you don't
listen to it all the way through, right, if it's better that way.
I've only ever listened to it thatway. Yeah, And I have
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some million albums I've done that withtoo, like another Pearl Jam example,
Yield. I almost can't listen tothat or like if you if I put
on a song from Yield, you'regetting another three or four, you know
what I mean. Like, Ijust have to listen whether you like it
or not. Oh, you'll likeit. You'll like it. It's the
best record when all of a suddendone to me, this is a fantastic
record. But I, in noway, shape or form I think it
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is on the level of thriller.Yeah, not much a chance. Yeah,
I mean, and that's the waythe number. Yeah. But like,
and I even there was early inthe tournament, there was a couple
where I was like, well,I'm real sad Mine's going up against this
right now, you know. Sothe last thing I'll say about The Kind
of Us was the last track onthe record, Common Reactor. Not only
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did I like it and I thoughtit was a great closer, but it
makes me wonder if maybe it's oneof the last songs that was written for
the record. And I bet ifyou listen to their second record, the
whole album probably sounds closer to thesound of that song, you know.
And yeah, I didn't get achance to listen to the second one,
but I would be stunned. Ithink there's like three years between there.
Yeah, I think it's two thousandand six thousand and nine one I just
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saw, so yeah, I wouldbe. And the newest one is much
different than any of this older stuff, which is I think I've only ever
heard stuff. I've heard stuff offthis album before, but never like front
to back. So I don't thinkI've ever heard anything else by them.
Yeah, i'd never have. Iknow friends love them, and I think
people have even brought a few LP'sto music night, and we just never
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got around to it or whatever.Um, so this was my first full
I'd never even heard Lazy. Ididn't even know Lazy I was the single
album initially. Is I just Ifucking love the lead singer's voice every Yeah
I did that too. Yeah thatwas what was funny. Is I told
you about when the first track startedand I was like, oh, like,
you know, like let down bythe first track. Um. The
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one thing was I was like,oh, well, at least someone I
like this voice. Yeah, youknow, like I can, I can
deal with this for the next fortyfifty minutes or whatever. So moving on
to Thriller, I'm gonna do thesame thing I do with all the rest
of my records. I promise,I'm gonna try and keep the short.
Um I'm gonna do. I literallymade just a couple of notes for each
song on the record. Um,I want to be starting something as a
perfect opener. I mean, itjust is like you put that song on,
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and I mean, even if youstrip it of the lyric of starting
you know, being like a greatlyric for the opening track of a song
of an album. Rather, it'sjust a killer way to start the record.
Um, baby me mine, Ithink is not perfect. But I'll
get into this later, but itsuffers from some things where on the rest
of the record where because of whatit's following, it's so hard to follow
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want to be starting something that.Yeah that you know, but I will
say, and it really bums meout that Michael Jackson has always known as
such a dancer and people really don'tgive him the credit for the vocalist that
he was. And Baby Be Minehas a fantastic vocal like his range is
just on fire. Who doesn't givehim the credit? No one? Who
do you know that talks about MichaelJackson as a great singer? Everybody?
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Nope, that's not that's not people. That's not real. But a lot
of people don't. Um, ohyeah, most of well most of the
time, he would. This recordis real spotty. He wrote some of
it. Some of it he didn'tlike, Ted Templeton or Rod Templeton.
Jesus famously wrote thriller, it wasa whole different song and whatever. But
Michael had a lot to do witharrangement, melody. He would He definitely
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wrote a lot of lyrics. Idon't know if he wrote Baby Be Mine
off the top of my head ornot the Girl is mine. The only
problem I've always had with that song, because I mean, you're you're dealing
with Michael Jackson and a beatle,so you know that's going to turn out
well. The only time I everhad with that song was that Michael Jackson
and Paul McCartney had a trade offat that time, and they did a
song called Say Say Say for PaulMcCartney's record, and then they did The
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Girls Mind for Thriller, and Ilike Say Say Say one hundred times more
than I liked The Girl's Mind.So I've always just kind of had a
grudge against the Girls Mind. Iwish Say was on Thriller instead. But
it's a great, great song ThrillersThriller. I mean, it's it's amazing.
You know. It's interconnected with thevideo. Really, That's why I
have a special connection to this record, because that video is to Scared the
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ever Living Shit Up YEP. Iremember the first time I heard it,
I hid behind the curtains. Ilove the Vincent Price was just awesome.
Beat it is was my gateway druginto Michael Jackson his music because I'd really
never even heard his motown stuff priorand when I heard beat It, I
was just like, who the hellis this? Eighty two? No Late
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eighty two came out in November ofeaty two, So I think, I
want to say I got it inlike the spring of eighty three or something
like that, and I got itbecause of beat It. Like beat It
was the reason why I wanted toown the album. And then you know,
you come home as a little kidand you put on side two of
Thriller and beat It happens, andthen out of that into Billy Jean into
Human Nature come on, you know, like I was like, Who's Wow,
who's this new guy? You knowit turns out not new so but
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anyways, and then I think,coming out of beat It, Billy Jean
and Human Nature, in my opinion, are two absolutely perfect pop songs.
Like they're just perfect pop songs.And that's why. And I talked about
this earlier, Baby be Mind suffersfrom following. I want to be starting
something. I've always had that againstPyt because Pyt is great and people love
that song, and I get it. I know what people do and I
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get it. But for me,when and again, I always look at
everything as a whole record. Nothingwas going to follow beat It, Billy
Jean and Human Nature, Like,in my opinion, you just leave ten
minutes of dead Wax because there's noway to follow that, you know.
And when you look at the sideof the beginning of side too a thriller
two, this would be anyone else'sgreatest hits album jam in Human Nature,
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and this guy was just like,oh hey, here's my new soulo you
know. And so PYT for meif you take it as an album as
a letdown, but if you justput on py Jam, ye right,
yeah, so round in the recordout is the Lady in My Life.
And this is another one that Inever really gave a real solid chance because
again, if you put on PYTand that comes next, PYT as a
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jam and so you're being let down. But I've really come to appreciate the
song over the past jeez, Idon't know, probably five years or so.
And now if you just grab Spotifyand throw on the Lady in My
Life by Michael Jackson, that's oneof the most underrated R and B songs
of the eighties, like like aslow jam R and B song, but
in album circle it suffers from youknow, Gargantua and Jam Gargantua and Jam
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Gargantu and Jam almost as good,and then that you know so, and
again, what are you gonna do? You know, like where where's it
gonna go? But if you justput that song on on its own,
you're like, holy cow, likethis is such an underd and again and
the vocal on there is fantastic.Yeah, outside of being scared to hell
by the video, what other thoughtsdo you have on Thriller? I agree
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with you that there's the song.The other songs that are on there that
aren't weren't big hits, just gotover shut up by the big hits,
and then it leaves people not reallyknowing a lot about them. But I
can say that, um, Idon't think the Silversun Pickups album was produced
by Quincy Jones so and even ifhe had produced it, he just deny
it now like he does with everythingelse, and it just makes something up.
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Much like I love the roughness ofCarnivas. I love the polishness of
Thriller. Yeah, and he hewasn't the king of pop for no reason
like that. The hits are smashhits, it's polished, it's I would
almost say, damn near perfect forwhat what it's trying to be. One
thing I like it that you mentionedabout Quincy being involved. Is a lot
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of people over credit Quincy for thisrecord, And I'm not saying you are.
I'm just saying a lot of peopledo there just oh, well,
Thriller wouldn't be Thriller without Quincy.He had a whole lot to do with
the sound, which is what aproducer is supposed to do. Like,
you know, it sounds as tightas it does because of Quincy, but
he wouldn't have had a place tostart without Michael's lyrics. And you know,
yeah, so Michael, I've tome, and it's fifty fifty as
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far as who maybe even sixty fortyin Michael's favor, But yeah, I
mean Quincy knocked it out of thepark with that one. With the production
on that, I would say,not everybody, I don't think could work
with Michael Jackson, and then noteverybody can work with Quincy Jones, right,
and this they meet in the middleon this and it's on fire.
Yeah, yeah, I mean itabsolutely is. And you take somebody like
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Quincy who had worked previously with everybody, you know, I mean, I
have a record over there of FrankSinatra live at the Sands with the Count
Basie Orchestra conducted by Quincy Jones,you know, and and then years later
here he is just I watched thatdocumentary about him, and I had no
idea like how much, how involvedhe wasn't h Yeah, in every corner
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of music in general. Yeah,well when you're recording, when you're recording
cuts like I want to be startingsomething or don't stop to get enough in
Quincy Jones is over playing the cokebattles Like that's an involved producer, you
know what I'm saying. Like,you know, we've talked for a bit
about both records, Michelle, wouldyou like to share your thoughts on both
records? I would, and theworld is anxiously waiting. It would be
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so awesome if I had the uhthe drop ready for the no chance Michelle's
heel music. Karnavas. I likethe record. I didn't think there was
anything. Oh wait, hold on, most important question. Ask any stinkers
any of these They're okay, we'llwait you know what wait? Yeah,
So Karnavas. I listened to itseveral times front to back and I found
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myself getting lost in the music,which is a good thing for me.
Like I don't I wasn't like nexttrack, next record because you said that
was a negative when it was thedark side of Moon. Go on,
um, she got she got realmad now, she got real mad just
now. So anyways, I dothink though I agree with you russ On
the first track was not anything nearany of the other albums that we've done.
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And I never really noticed that aboutrecords in general until we start doing
this Battle Royale, and I wasvery let down by that. I was
just expecting more, and I don'tthink. I also think that Lazy I
and Rusted Wheel don't belong on therecord. I feel like they're very different
than the rest of the songs.You jumped all over me when I said
that about Rusted Wheell, no,you said it was a bad song.
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Well, I then I cracked myself. No, I know, so when
you said it was a stinker.That's why I was like, whoa,
whoa. I really enjoyed those songs, and those are the songs, those
are the songs that I liked independentof hearing this record, Like I liked
those songs already and they show upon my playlist on Spotify and stuff.
I just never listened to the restof the album front to back before right,
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and when I got to those songs, I guess. I would also
say that the second half of therecord is where it picks up for me,
so lazy, I kind of.I think it's like the sixth track
from there. It's it's very muchnot that the first half is a stinker,
but it very much is an upswingfor me. Sure, Um,
but I knew they might have donethe track listing that way on purpose too.
Yeah, like to give the recordto flow. There's a lot of
up and down. Yeah. Iam very interested to see listen to their
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next record to see where they gofrom there, because they can think about
that that I didn't know this wastheir debut records, so I would like
to hear where they've been or wherethey go for the Yeah. So overall,
the record, UM, I thinkwas really it was really good.
I liked it. I would definitelylisten to it again. But when you
put it next to Thriller, right, well, don't spoil everything. Might
there might be one person listening who'snever heard Thriller, So we gotta break
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this down so thrillers by this artistMichael Jackson. If you yeah, yeah
yeah. If you've never heard ofhim, he should look him up.
This record for me is a hitspackage, Like it's just much like much
like Rumors and much like Purple Rain, it is a hits package for me,
Like it's all the songs that Igrew up with, and like I
didn't realize that they were all onthe same record till I was older,
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and I just like, these areall the songs that they're famous for.
I love the first track on thisrecord. Uh, the way you make
Me Feel? That's not on thisrecord? What is it? That's on
Bad? And it's not even thefirst track on Bad? What is it?
It's the second track on Bad?Did you listen to Bad? On
accident? I want to be starting? Is that what you please tell me?
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That's what you meant to say?That is what I meant to say.
Okay, I thought, Holy,we were talking about the way you
can feel last time, and thenI confusedly, I'm like, I can't
tell you how excited I am thatthat's what you meant to say. I
swear you could look at I justlistened to it today. The look on
Russa's face is priceless. I justLord, be with me. So thought
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that you listened to the wrong recordfor a minute because I want yeah,
because I mean, Sheet's over herethinking like I really liked like Barry and
Girl and Speed Demon, and anotherpart of me, I don't understand why
is he over there talking about beatIt. That's that's not even on.
There wasn't in the song that Iwas thinking of. I don't know why
I said that. So I wantto be starting something that's the one.
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But baby Mine is not is notmy jam. Yeah, and it's not
mine either, but I don't dislikeit at a vocals fantastic. Yes,
I could listen to an instrumental versionor a acapella version of that and just
be happy, like nothing to dowith it other than his nacle is fantastic
for me. I could agree onthat. And the Lady in My Life,
like you were saying, is anotherIt's those are the only two songs,
and they're not even stinkers, They'rejust they're not my jam. So
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we're having another no stinker week.I think we are having overshadowed by all
the monster songs on that I alsoagree that The Girl is Mine is not
as good as say say say,I will say. When I was a
kid, I hated how sugary itis, like just you know, I
was like ah, But as Igrow older, like now, I love
the idea of like Paul and Michaeljust screwing around in the studio having fun
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with it, you know, thewhole speak in the middle of the whole
um I told you I'm gonna loveit. Not a fighter and all that,
Like you know when they cut themic that they were laughing from their
ass off or you know, orI hope they weren't being serious. H
p YT is also one of myone of my favorites on the record,
and I know that's not it's notmy favorite, but it'll get the party
started. If I was looking toget some asses moving and it was DJ
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and I would put that your rearendgear uh from front to back. It's
very much. If it was upagainst either one of the records last week
too, I would not be ableto pick, like, yeah, those
three records are just dina news aboutthat. Going forward, You're welcome,
well actually you will be picking anyways. But yeah, you know what one
thing about Thriller is in rumors?Is this way too, where the hype
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leads up to the art or livesup to the art, Where when anybody,
if someone is listening to this andit is like, for the love
a God, why do I alwayshear about this record but I've never heard
Thriller. When they put it on, they'll be like, oh, that's
why, you know what I mean, Like it does live up to its
right. You've heard every song offThrillers somewhere, but yeah, I might
have might have heard the record,maybe not the Lady in my Life,
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maybe not that, But other thanthat, you've heard every song on this
record somewhere. Yeah, I wouldsay, I'm sure you probably have played
Thriller front to back here a musicnight at something, for sure. I
just did last Friday. Um,but I don't remember sitting down and like
taking it all in and one sittingand like like being conscious of what's going
on and really listening to it.I got yelled at one music night because
I stopped side to a Thriller afterPYT and before the Lady of my Life.
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Everybody was like, why did youlike that last song playing? I
was like, all right, butyou're all about to be disappointed compared to
what this happened. But in thetime since, I've grown to love that
song, so now I would like, yeah, it would be better if
the way you make me feel itwas on it. That's the only thing
to make it better. Well,seeing is that song didn't come out for
another five years after that and wason a completely different record. Take Lady
in My Life out and put thaton. Yeah, sure, I mean,
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yeah, it's not a closing trackthough, no it's not. And
then like shuffle the track. Nope, now you're no, I've been banished.
Yeah, now now you're talking thatold smack. So all right,
so I have to assume when youhave a decision ready for us. Okay,
fantastic. We'll be back in justa second. And I'm so excited
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last Decided by Michelle episode, whichI'm pretty sure that when this episode's released
on Friday, like throughout the entireday, we're going to feel united side
of relief go off all across thenation. Like we'll know when to the
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hand with the episode. And thenthe other news is we've talked about how
going forward this is going to changeand the people are going to decide going
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forward, So the winner from thisepisode will move on just like always.
But then going forward, we willmeet up and it'll probably be even shorter
episode where the three of us willtalk about the two records that go up
against each other and we'll kind ofpresent that to the audience to listen to,
so sort of help you make upyour mind. Then we'll put up
a Facebook poll and everybody you'll justgo ahead and leave their comments in there,
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and those records will move on.So and it should make it interesting
going to Well, I mean,we'll make our voice be heard on the
episode, so I guess we cancount it that way, or we can
leave a comment a piece saying whatit is. But yeah, so that
will be fun for all of thelisteners and for us to see because going
forward, we all three may belocked in on one and the listeners all
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pick the other or something around there. So it should be fun going forward.
So anyways, having said that,getting back to the business of this
episode, Michelle, do you havea final ruling force thriller? You're just
like, well, either way itcould be shot as well. Um,
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yeah, so and and I swearto you, do you know what he
that's from, That's from the wayyou make me feel, which is as
we cleared up earlier, from noteven on that. So it's fine.
So yeah, And like I say, you don't want to go into this.
I literally today was like, whatif she doesn't pick thriller? Thinking
that to myself times like I likethe record, I would have voted to
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overrule you if you chose to personally. And then hey, you remember that
white flag I said that Kyle waswaving earlier. Well, right now he's
choking the show with it, soI have to go by No Thriller.
But yeah, kind of last nota bad record by any stretch of the
imagination. It's just the way thatthis felt. And I I can't I
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don't have the tournament pulled up infront of you right now, but I've
had a couple knocked out that Iwas like, damn it, I don't
like that too. Literally, yeah, they can't go up against each other.
I mean they just did, butit's it's not a not even a
fair fight at all. Um.But hey, may there's people out there
listening that absolutely despise Michael Jackson.I'm not sure what's wrong with you,
but you're wrong. If you're outthere, that's fine. And if you
think Carnivas is great and better thanthat, more power too. It's a
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great it's a great record. It'sjust way different. Yes, she gets
mad if I don't do it,not even on the same wavelength as Thriller.
So yeah, it's it's I mean, in man, any ways,
it's apples and oranges. But yes, you know, like I say,
it's not kind of that's not abad record at all. I highly recommend
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anybody look into it, especially ifyou like that mid nineties smashing Pumpkins thing
and you wanted to think, youknow, like hey, what if that
was taken a little bit further,like you know, Billy Corgan hadn't gone
nuts on his own ego, Likethat's what maybe some more Pumpkins material.
We always talk about too, thatseveral the records that have been on or
in this tournament are debut records fromthe people that made them. This is
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another one, right, it's uhfor a debut record. Damn damn smash.
Yeah. Great, great record comingout of the gate, that's for
sure. So for next week,like I said, we were we're gonna
meet up again. We're going todiscuss the two records that are going up
against each other, which going forward, everything is a result of what has
happened in the tournament so far.So next week, the two records going
up against each other could not bemore different from each other. It is
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Eminem music to being murdered by goingup against Carol King tapestry, and I
think they've guessed it on each other'stracks a few times. Yeah, but
uh, these Yeah, they've definitelythrew well they've were gonna but then the
health crisis. Yeah, they're gonnado it. Nothing else makes sense in
twenty twenty. Why not a CarolKing and Eminem tour. So next week
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you will get all three of ourthoughts on not just hey this Eminem or
I really like it, or heyI really like this Girl King record.
But here's how, how and whyI think this album is better than that
one specific right, yes, becausewe all know we like these albums,
now, yeah, we all knowthat we like these records. So yeah,
you got rid of all the dirtylaundry, like pieces of crap like
Dark Side of the Moon and petSounds. Yeah, we don't worry don't
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worry about anything. I came inand did everyone a favor at cleaned House.
Right, Yeah, so you're welcome. Yeah. Yet again I have
to remind the listeners please do notthrow your device. We are not we
are not responsible for any sort ofPlease don't send me hate mail. Yeah
well no, do that. Anyways, We greatly appreciate you guys being with
us on this ride, and wewill have another one out for you soon. See y
Hey, guess what. It's thefinal round of the first part of the
Infectius Screw podcast turning. Don't evengive me a chance at chicken button.
Oh okay, you know, holdon one second. Well we'll go again.
Hey guess what chicken butt? Allright, So, as you can
tell, and I swear to guywho, we're not recording these episodes all
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on one day where we're just likeslap having now. But anyways, we
are at the final part of thefirst round of the Infectius Grew podcast tournament.
As you all know, this hasbeen very informal and we're just kind
of screwing around, picked a coupleof records a piece and putting them up
against each other. Up until thispoint it has been decided by Michelle,
and then social media decided that Michelledid not deserve that ability. Yeah,
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so starting with the next episode thingswill change. But I'll get into that
a little bit later. And lastone was a little bit of a cliffhanger
because, yeah, because Michelle couldnot decide between Fleetwood mac Rumors and Prints
of the Revolution Purple Rain. Sowe put that one to a social media
poll and Purple Rain edged out Fleetwoodmac Rumors. So that we'll move on
in the tournament, and it onlyedged it out by two votes, and
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I the last, the last twovotes that I know of that we got
was the lead singer of the Nixonsand my son, both equally important to
the music world. But it waslike my son was like adamant and he
loves Fleetwood Mac but he it wasthe same way I was. He was
like, no, you don't understand. Like and Zach Malloy of the Nixons,
I've never heard a more definitive thanthat. So yeah, so anyways,
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fine, yeah, it's not they'reboth. Hold on, you'll get
all mad if I don't do it. Whereas it they're both. I mean
they're both, you know, Imean they're both fantastic. I love both
records. But it's literally you comeup to a situation where one edges out
the other, you know, andthat's where that's where we found ourselves.
So having said that, this weekwe have a record from about fifteen or
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so years ago, Silver Pickups Carnavas. Is this their debut record? I
should probably know that, but Ithink I'll tell you in my assessment of
the record, I'll tell you whyI think it is it might be.
Yeah, I think it might beas well. Um. And then a
person who's very much not his debutrecord in nineteen eighty three and Michael or
I'm sorry nineteen eighty two and MichaelJackson Thriller. So I could be wrong,
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but I think he'd been around themusic industry a couple of years before
Thriller a couple of years later.Yeah, three, yeah, it was
something like it. Well, Ithink he put Thriller out when he was
twenty four, and he'd only beenin the business since he was five.
So yeah, let's not very long. Yeah. Yeah. And actually,
Brookshields made a joke at his memorialActually it said she started when she was
eighteen months so she used to jokewith Michael about that he was a slacker
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because he got into the business atfive. Um. And so anyways,
enough pomp and circumstance, And asas Marty de Berghey says in spinal Tap,
enough of my yacking. Let's moveon. Are you about to tell
me if that's their debut record?According to Wikipedia, it was their first
record. I see, Okay,that's what I thought. And I'll tell
you why when we get into theassessment of the record, but it just
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kind of struck me as a debutrecord for a couple of different reasons.
So having said that, Kyle,share with us your thoughts on Silver Sun
pickups kind of us. Okay,so obviously we had well yeah, we
had no idea, you know,we just chose records and they got Are
you pre apologizing for let up againsteach other? All right, well thanks
for joining us on this episode.You withdrawing so you guys can't see when
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you're listening to this. But forsome reason, Kyle has a white flag.
He's panic. Let's talk squarely aboutthis record, you know, because
there's there there's a lot positive toit. No, no, yeah,
I agree, but so I Iwould have never in my life chosen this
record to go up against. Sowith that being said, I absolutely love
this record and it has a specialplace in my heart because I used to
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listen to it all the time,and I get all the feels back when
I listened to it. Um.I can also listen to it all the
way through, like from front toback we did earlier. Yeah, and
I just I get lost in theentire thing, popping around the house,
always bopping. Um. The onlyI had a couple of issues with it,
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but they were like minor overall.Like the first track on it,
just to me wasn't like that's nota track one like it would be a
great song anywhere else on the record. But and in this album's defense,
again, this tournament has been filledwith monster number first tracks, you know
what I mean. I mean,obviously not once by Pearl Jam. We
agree that's terrible over right, ProbablyI'm gonna run. I'm gonna run back
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to the table. But like,you know, just off that wouldn't it
be nice? And our Sandman,you know what I mean, Like we've
got these monster openers, and thenthis one. I started the record and
I was like, you know,like I just it didn't kick right at
all. The only other minor thing, and I have notes for every song
on the record, but the onlyother minor thing that I noticed was this
is why I say I kind ofthought it was their first one. I
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will say first things first, I'vealways heard of the Silver Sun Pickups,
but this is the first record I'veever listened to by them. I would
be willing to bet that from theirsecond record on their sound evolved quite a
bit because this and I don't meanthis in a bad way. A lot
of songs on this sound like midAero Smashing Pumpkins to me, like Melancholly
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and Infant Saner Spicy's Scary Scary atthose records. Yeah, and again I
don't I love those records. Idon't mean that in a bad way,
but it to me sounded like theycame out heavily influenced with from that.
And I would be surprised if theband Team and Paula hasn't heard a lot
of this, because there's a lotof sounds that they pioneered around the midpoint
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of this record where it becomes itsown thing, that are absolutely canvassed again
later on Team and Paula Records.So I thought a lot about that,
and then there was the one thingthat was weird for me was what track
was it? I didn't put thename down. The second track on the
record starts out like reminiscent of CrosstownTraffic by Jimmy Hendricks and then folds into
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the smashing pumpkin sound, and Iwas like, but you had the Crosstown
Traffic thing going, like, youknow. The only um stinker on the
record for me was a rusted Wheelin the middle of it was out of
place on the record. I thought, no, and that's I didn't you
know. This goes back to meviewing it as a whole thing, and
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it just like I liked the song, but I didn't like it as part
of the record, and I getout someday I'll play Pearl James has an
album called No Code that I feelthat way about. I love every song
on the record. When you playthem in a row, I get real
mad, like I just don't likethe record. So I feel like this
is the people. I think alot of people only know them because of
Lazy Ie, which is on thisrecord, but like they have, in
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my opinion, a lot more tooffer than lazy Ie. I had that
as one of my notes as Ibet Tam and Paula loves that song.
Um. The second song on therecord is called well thought Out Okay,
and I thought when I first readit, because I didn't gasses. You
said you thought twinkies, Yes,I thought there, oh, no,
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twinkles got it. When I firstbrought it up on Spotify, I thought
that twinkle twinkies? Is it beforelunchtime? Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah?
But I cut you off. Whatwere you going to say about,
like how they have a lot moreoffer than Lazy I. Yes, I
like the album to me, soundsand now that we know that it's their
debut album, or we think thatit's their debut album, it sounds rough
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and raw and edgy and like unpolished. Yeah, and I like that about
it, um and it just peopleknow them of because of Lazy I.
It's a wildly popular song. Butthere's you know, like Rusted Wheel I
like even more than Lazy I wouldthink, Yeah, And I should be
clear. I guess stinker wasn't theright word. I don't just throw that
word around like someone else on theshow. You obviously do, because that
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is not a stinker, right,But it wasn't. I felt like it
was a stinker on this record andfine on its own, like hold on,
let me look at my notes again. There was another song later,
three Seed, that is a reallydown temple number, but I felt like
it went with the flow of therecord more than Rusted Wheel. Did you
know what I'm saying? Again,none of this makes it a bad experience.
It's funny about this. I don'tthink that I've ever not listened to
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this record all the way through.Like every time I listened to it,
I listened to the entire thing.So I've never listened maybe Lazy Eye on
its own, like I playlist orsomething. Yeah, but like literally,
every every time I've listened to thisrecord or any song on it, it's
been all the way through. Yeah, So it's it's different to hear people
be like, oh, well,you know it makes sense if you don't
listen to it all the way through, right, if it's better that way.
I've only ever listened to it thatway. Yeah, And I have
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some million albums I've done that withtoo, like another Pearl Jam example,
Yield. I almost can't listen tothat or like if you if I put
on a song from Yield, you'regetting another three or four, you know
what I mean. Like, Ijust have to listen whether you like it
or not. Oh, you'll likeit. You'll like it. It's the
best record when all of a suddendone to me, this is a fantastic
record. But I, in noway, shape or form I think it
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is on the level of thriller.Yeah, not much a chance. Yeah,
I mean, and that's the waythe number. Yeah. But like,
and I even there was early inthe tournament, there was a couple
where I was like, well,I'm real sad Mine's going up against this
right now, you know. Sothe last thing I'll say about The Kind
of Us was the last track onthe record, Common Reactor. Not only
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did I like it and I thoughtit was a great closer, but it
makes me wonder if maybe it's oneof the last songs that was written for
the record. And I bet ifyou listen to their second record, the
whole album probably sounds closer to thesound of that song, you know.
And yeah, I didn't get achance to listen to the second one,
but I would be stunned. Ithink there's like three years between there.
Yeah, I think it's two thousandand six thousand and nine one I just
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saw, so yeah, I wouldbe. And the newest one is much
different than any of this older stuff, which is I think I've only ever
heard stuff. I've heard stuff offthis album before, but never like front
to back. So I don't thinkI've ever heard anything else by them.
Yeah, i'd never have. Iknow friends love them, and I think
people have even brought a few LP'sto music night, and we just never
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got around to it or whatever.Um, so this was my first full
I'd never even heard Lazy. Ididn't even know Lazy I was the single
album initially. Is I just Ifucking love the lead singer's voice every Yeah
I did that too. Yeah thatwas what was funny. Is I told
you about when the first track startedand I was like, oh, like,
you know, like let down bythe first track. Um. The
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one thing was I was like,oh, well, at least someone I
like this voice. Yeah, youknow, like I can, I can
deal with this for the next fortyfifty minutes or whatever. So moving on
to Thriller, I'm gonna do thesame thing I do with all the rest
of my records. I promise,I'm gonna try and keep the short.
Um I'm gonna do. I literallymade just a couple of notes for each
song on the record. Um,I want to be starting something as a
perfect opener. I mean, itjust is like you put that song on,
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and I mean, even if youstrip it of the lyric of starting
you know, being like a greatlyric for the opening track of a song
of an album. Rather, it'sjust a killer way to start the record.
Um, baby me mine, Ithink is not perfect. But I'll
get into this later, but itsuffers from some things where on the rest
of the record where because of whatit's following, it's so hard to follow
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want to be starting something that.Yeah that you know, but I will
say, and it really bums meout that Michael Jackson has always known as
such a dancer and people really don'tgive him the credit for the vocalist that
he was. And Baby Be Minehas a fantastic vocal like his range is
just on fire. Who doesn't givehim the credit? No one? Who
do you know that talks about MichaelJackson as a great singer? Everybody?
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Nope, that's not that's not people. That's not real. But a lot
of people don't. Um, ohyeah, most of well most of the
time, he would. This recordis real spotty. He wrote some of
it. Some of it he didn'tlike, Ted Templeton or Rod Templeton.
Jesus famously wrote thriller, it wasa whole different song and whatever. But
Michael had a lot to do witharrangement, melody. He would He definitely
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wrote a lot of lyrics. Idon't know if he wrote Baby Be Mine
off the top of my head ornot the Girl is mine. The only
problem I've always had with that song, because I mean, you're you're dealing
with Michael Jackson and a beatle,so you know that's going to turn out
well. The only time I everhad with that song was that Michael Jackson
and Paul McCartney had a trade offat that time, and they did a
song called Say Say Say for PaulMcCartney's record, and then they did The
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Girls Mind for Thriller, and Ilike Say Say Say one hundred times more
than I liked The Girl's Mind.So I've always just kind of had a
grudge against the Girls Mind. Iwish Say was on Thriller instead. But
it's a great, great song ThrillersThriller. I mean, it's it's amazing.
You know. It's interconnected with thevideo. Really, That's why I
have a special connection to this record, because that video is to Scared the
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ever Living Shit Up YEP. Iremember the first time I heard it,
I hid behind the curtains. Ilove the Vincent Price was just awesome.
Beat it is was my gateway druginto Michael Jackson his music because I'd really
never even heard his motown stuff priorand when I heard beat It, I
was just like, who the hellis this? Eighty two? No Late
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eighty two came out in November ofeaty two, So I think, I
want to say I got it inlike the spring of eighty three or something
like that, and I got itbecause of beat It. Like beat It
was the reason why I wanted toown the album. And then you know,
you come home as a little kidand you put on side two of
Thriller and beat It happens, andthen out of that into Billy Jean into
Human Nature come on, you know, like I was like, Who's Wow,
who's this new guy? You knowit turns out not new so but
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anyways, and then I think,coming out of beat It, Billy Jean
and Human Nature, in my opinion, are two absolutely perfect pop songs.
Like they're just perfect pop songs.And that's why. And I talked about
this earlier, Baby be Mind suffersfrom following. I want to be starting
something. I've always had that againstPyt because Pyt is great and people love
that song, and I get it. I know what people do and I
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get it. But for me,when and again, I always look at
everything as a whole record. Nothingwas going to follow beat It, Billy
Jean and Human Nature, Like,in my opinion, you just leave ten
minutes of dead Wax because there's noway to follow that, you know.
And when you look at the sideof the beginning of side too a thriller
two, this would be anyone else'sgreatest hits album jam in Human Nature,
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and this guy was just like,oh hey, here's my new soulo you
know. And so PYT for meif you take it as an album as
a letdown, but if you justput on py Jam, ye right,
yeah, so round in the recordout is the Lady in My Life.
And this is another one that Inever really gave a real solid chance because
again, if you put on PYTand that comes next, PYT as a
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jam and so you're being let down. But I've really come to appreciate the
song over the past jeez, Idon't know, probably five years or so.
And now if you just grab Spotifyand throw on the Lady in My
Life by Michael Jackson, that's oneof the most underrated R and B songs
of the eighties, like like aslow jam R and B song, but
in album circle it suffers from youknow, Gargantua and Jam Gargantua and Jam
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Gargantu and Jam almost as good,and then that you know so, and
again, what are you gonna do? You know, like where where's it
gonna go? But if you justput that song on on its own,
you're like, holy cow, likethis is such an underd and again and
the vocal on there is fantastic.Yeah, outside of being scared to hell
by the video, what other thoughtsdo you have on Thriller? I agree
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with you that there's the song.The other songs that are on there that
aren't weren't big hits, just gotover shut up by the big hits,
and then it leaves people not reallyknowing a lot about them. But I
can say that, um, Idon't think the Silversun Pickups album was produced
by Quincy Jones so and even ifhe had produced it, he just deny
it now like he does with everythingelse, and it just makes something up.
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Much like I love the roughness ofCarnivas. I love the polishness of
Thriller. Yeah, and he hewasn't the king of pop for no reason
like that. The hits are smashhits, it's polished, it's I would
almost say, damn near perfect forwhat what it's trying to be. One
thing I like it that you mentionedabout Quincy being involved. Is a lot
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of people over credit Quincy for thisrecord, And I'm not saying you are.
I'm just saying a lot of peopledo there just oh, well,
Thriller wouldn't be Thriller without Quincy.He had a whole lot to do with
the sound, which is what aproducer is supposed to do. Like,
you know, it sounds as tightas it does because of Quincy, but
he wouldn't have had a place tostart without Michael's lyrics. And you know,
yeah, so Michael, I've tome, and it's fifty fifty as
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far as who maybe even sixty fortyin Michael's favor, But yeah, I
mean Quincy knocked it out of thepark with that one. With the production
on that, I would say,not everybody, I don't think could work
with Michael Jackson, and then noteverybody can work with Quincy Jones, right,
and this they meet in the middleon this and it's on fire.
Yeah, yeah, I mean itabsolutely is. And you take somebody like
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Quincy who had worked previously with everybody, you know, I mean, I
have a record over there of FrankSinatra live at the Sands with the Count
Basie Orchestra conducted by Quincy Jones,you know, and and then years later
here he is just I watched thatdocumentary about him, and I had no
idea like how much, how involvedhe wasn't h Yeah, in every corner
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of music in general. Yeah,well when you're recording, when you're recording
cuts like I want to be startingsomething or don't stop to get enough in
Quincy Jones is over playing the cokebattles Like that's an involved producer, you
know what I'm saying. Like,you know, we've talked for a bit
about both records, Michelle, wouldyou like to share your thoughts on both
records? I would, and theworld is anxiously waiting. It would be
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so awesome if I had the uhthe drop ready for the no chance Michelle's
heel music. Karnavas. I likethe record. I didn't think there was
anything. Oh wait, hold on, most important question. Ask any stinkers
any of these They're okay, we'llwait you know what wait? Yeah,
So Karnavas. I listened to itseveral times front to back and I found
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myself getting lost in the music,which is a good thing for me.
Like I don't I wasn't like nexttrack, next record because you said that
was a negative when it was thedark side of Moon. Go on,
um, she got she got realmad now, she got real mad just
now. So anyways, I dothink though I agree with you russ On
the first track was not anything nearany of the other albums that we've done.
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And I never really noticed that aboutrecords in general until we start doing
this Battle Royale, and I wasvery let down by that. I was
just expecting more, and I don'tthink. I also think that Lazy I
and Rusted Wheel don't belong on therecord. I feel like they're very different
than the rest of the songs.You jumped all over me when I said
that about Rusted Wheell, no,you said it was a bad song.
(18:30):
Well, I then I cracked myself. No, I know, so when
you said it was a stinker.That's why I was like, whoa,
whoa. I really enjoyed those songs, and those are the songs, those
are the songs that I liked independentof hearing this record, Like I liked
those songs already and they show upon my playlist on Spotify and stuff.
I just never listened to the restof the album front to back before right,
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and when I got to those songs, I guess. I would also
say that the second half of therecord is where it picks up for me,
so lazy, I kind of.I think it's like the sixth track
from there. It's it's very muchnot that the first half is a stinker,
but it very much is an upswingfor me. Sure, Um,
but I knew they might have donethe track listing that way on purpose too.
Yeah, like to give the recordto flow. There's a lot of
up and down. Yeah. Iam very interested to see listen to their
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next record to see where they gofrom there, because they can think about
that that I didn't know this wastheir debut records, so I would like
to hear where they've been or wherethey go for the Yeah. So overall,
the record, UM, I thinkwas really it was really good.
I liked it. I would definitelylisten to it again. But when you
put it next to Thriller, right, well, don't spoil everything. Might
there might be one person listening who'snever heard Thriller, So we gotta break
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this down so thrillers by this artistMichael Jackson. If you yeah, yeah
yeah. If you've never heard ofhim, he should look him up.
This record for me is a hitspackage, Like it's just much like much
like Rumors and much like Purple Rain, it is a hits package for me,
Like it's all the songs that Igrew up with, and like I
didn't realize that they were all onthe same record till I was older,
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and I just like, these areall the songs that they're famous for.
I love the first track on thisrecord. Uh, the way you make
Me Feel? That's not on thisrecord? What is it? That's on
Bad? And it's not even thefirst track on Bad? What is it?
It's the second track on Bad?Did you listen to Bad? On
accident? I want to be starting? Is that what you please tell me?
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That's what you meant to say?That is what I meant to say.
Okay, I thought, Holy,we were talking about the way you
can feel last time, and thenI confusedly, I'm like, I can't
tell you how excited I am thatthat's what you meant to say. I
swear you could look at I justlistened to it today. The look on
Russa's face is priceless. I justLord, be with me. So thought
(20:45):
that you listened to the wrong recordfor a minute because I want yeah,
because I mean, Sheet's over herethinking like I really liked like Barry and
Girl and Speed Demon, and anotherpart of me, I don't understand why
is he over there talking about beatIt. That's that's not even on.
There wasn't in the song that Iwas thinking of. I don't know why
I said that. So I wantto be starting something that's the one.
(21:07):
But baby Mine is not is notmy jam. Yeah, and it's not
mine either, but I don't dislikeit at a vocals fantastic. Yes,
I could listen to an instrumental versionor a acapella version of that and just
be happy, like nothing to dowith it other than his nacle is fantastic
for me. I could agree onthat. And the Lady in My Life,
like you were saying, is anotherIt's those are the only two songs,
and they're not even stinkers, They'rejust they're not my jam. So
(21:30):
we're having another no stinker week.I think we are having overshadowed by all
the monster songs on that I alsoagree that The Girl is Mine is not
as good as say say say,I will say. When I was a
kid, I hated how sugary itis, like just you know, I
was like ah, But as Igrow older, like now, I love
the idea of like Paul and Michaeljust screwing around in the studio having fun
(21:52):
with it, you know, thewhole speak in the middle of the whole
um I told you I'm gonna loveit. Not a fighter and all that,
Like you know when they cut themic that they were laughing from their
ass off or you know, orI hope they weren't being serious. H
p YT is also one of myone of my favorites on the record,
and I know that's not it's notmy favorite, but it'll get the party
started. If I was looking toget some asses moving and it was DJ
(22:14):
and I would put that your rearendgear uh from front to back. It's
very much. If it was upagainst either one of the records last week
too, I would not be ableto pick, like, yeah, those
three records are just dina news aboutthat. Going forward, You're welcome,
well actually you will be picking anyways. But yeah, you know what one
thing about Thriller is in rumors?Is this way too, where the hype
(22:37):
leads up to the art or livesup to the art, Where when anybody,
if someone is listening to this andit is like, for the love
a God, why do I alwayshear about this record but I've never heard
Thriller. When they put it on, they'll be like, oh, that's
why, you know what I mean, Like it does live up to its
right. You've heard every song offThrillers somewhere, but yeah, I might
have might have heard the record,maybe not the Lady in my Life,
(23:00):
maybe not that, But other thanthat, you've heard every song on this
record somewhere. Yeah, I wouldsay, I'm sure you probably have played
Thriller front to back here a musicnight at something, for sure. I
just did last Friday. Um,but I don't remember sitting down and like
taking it all in and one sittingand like like being conscious of what's going
on and really listening to it.I got yelled at one music night because
I stopped side to a Thriller afterPYT and before the Lady of my Life.
(23:23):
Everybody was like, why did youlike that last song playing? I
was like, all right, butyou're all about to be disappointed compared to
what this happened. But in thetime since, I've grown to love that
song, so now I would like, yeah, it would be better if
the way you make me feel itwas on it. That's the only thing
to make it better. Well,seeing is that song didn't come out for
another five years after that and wason a completely different record. Take Lady
in My Life out and put thaton. Yeah, sure, I mean,
(23:45):
yeah, it's not a closing trackthough, no it's not. And
then like shuffle the track. Nope, now you're no, I've been banished.
Yeah, now now you're talking thatold smack. So all right,
so I have to assume when youhave a decision ready for us. Okay,
fantastic. We'll be back in justa second. And I'm so excited
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ever Trending pot And just like that, we're back. And this is the
last Decided by Michelle episode, whichI'm pretty sure that when this episode's released
on Friday, like throughout the entireday, we're going to feel united side
of relief go off all across thenation. Like we'll know when to the
(25:40):
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hand with the episode. And thenthe other news is we've talked about how
going forward this is going to changeand the people are going to decide going
(26:03):
forward, So the winner from thisepisode will move on just like always.
But then going forward, we willmeet up and it'll probably be even shorter
episode where the three of us willtalk about the two records that go up
against each other and we'll kind ofpresent that to the audience to listen to,
so sort of help you make upyour mind. Then we'll put up
a Facebook poll and everybody you'll justgo ahead and leave their comments in there,
(26:26):
and those records will move on.So and it should make it interesting
going to Well, I mean,we'll make our voice be heard on the
episode, so I guess we cancount it that way, or we can
leave a comment a piece saying whatit is. But yeah, so that
will be fun for all of thelisteners and for us to see because going
forward, we all three may belocked in on one and the listeners all
(26:48):
pick the other or something around there. So it should be fun going forward.
So anyways, having said that,getting back to the business of this
episode, Michelle, do you havea final ruling force thriller? You're just
like, well, either way itcould be shot as well. Um,
(27:14):
yeah, so and and I swearto you, do you know what he
that's from, That's from the wayyou make me feel, which is as
we cleared up earlier, from noteven on that. So it's fine.
So yeah, And like I say, you don't want to go into this.
I literally today was like, whatif she doesn't pick thriller? Thinking
that to myself times like I likethe record, I would have voted to
(27:40):
overrule you if you chose to personally. And then hey, you remember that
white flag I said that Kyle waswaving earlier. Well, right now he's
choking the show with it, soI have to go by No Thriller.
But yeah, kind of last nota bad record by any stretch of the
imagination. It's just the way thatthis felt. And I I can't I
(28:02):
don't have the tournament pulled up infront of you right now, but I've
had a couple knocked out that Iwas like, damn it, I don't
like that too. Literally, yeah, they can't go up against each other.
I mean they just did, butit's it's not a not even a
fair fight at all. Um.But hey, may there's people out there
listening that absolutely despise Michael Jackson.I'm not sure what's wrong with you,
but you're wrong. If you're outthere, that's fine. And if you
think Carnivas is great and better thanthat, more power too. It's a
(28:26):
great it's a great record. It'sjust way different. Yes, she gets
mad if I don't do it,not even on the same wavelength as Thriller.
So yeah, it's it's I mean, in man, any ways,
it's apples and oranges. But yes, you know, like I say,
it's not kind of that's not abad record at all. I highly recommend
(28:48):
anybody look into it, especially ifyou like that mid nineties smashing Pumpkins thing
and you wanted to think, youknow, like hey, what if that
was taken a little bit further,like you know, Billy Corgan hadn't gone
nuts on his own ego, Likethat's what maybe some more Pumpkins material.
We always talk about too, thatseveral the records that have been on or
in this tournament are debut records fromthe people that made them. This is
(29:10):
another one, right, it's uhfor a debut record. Damn damn smash.
Yeah. Great, great record comingout of the gate, that's for
sure. So for next week,like I said, we were we're gonna
meet up again. We're going todiscuss the two records that are going up
against each other, which going forward, everything is a result of what has
happened in the tournament so far.So next week, the two records going
up against each other could not bemore different from each other. It is
(29:34):
Eminem music to being murdered by goingup against Carol King tapestry, and I
think they've guessed it on each other'stracks a few times. Yeah, but
uh, these Yeah, they've definitelythrew well they've were gonna but then the
health crisis. Yeah, they're gonnado it. Nothing else makes sense in
twenty twenty. Why not a CarolKing and Eminem tour. So next week
(29:56):
you will get all three of ourthoughts on not just hey this Eminem or
I really like it, or heyI really like this Girl King record.
But here's how, how and whyI think this album is better than that
one specific right, yes, becausewe all know we like these albums,
now, yeah, we all knowthat we like these records. So yeah,
you got rid of all the dirtylaundry, like pieces of crap like
Dark Side of the Moon and petSounds. Yeah, we don't worry don't
(30:18):
worry about anything. I came inand did everyone a favor at cleaned House.
Right, Yeah, so you're welcome. Yeah. Yet again I have
to remind the listeners please do notthrow your device. We are not we
are not responsible for any sort ofPlease don't send me hate mail. Yeah
well no, do that. Anyways, We greatly appreciate you guys being with
us on this ride, and wewill have another one out for you soon. See y
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