"Banter Official"

Episode 205: In this episode, Mark is joined by producer and member of the Hip Hop group Grand Official- Grip. We talk about their new album "Supreme", Growing up in California, working with legends like KRS-One, MOP and Ras Kass, coming up in the break dance scene, which producers he was influenced by. 

Find Grand Official music here: https://on.soundcloud.com/WwmtMmocvaQQPUkb6

Mark also talks about his favorite Hip Hop B-Side songs. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Here.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
It is another episode of the Infinite Banter podcast. What
is happening? My name is Mark Joll aka DJ Soundwave
or is my man Lou Temple from The Walking Dead
who's been on the show before. He once called me
DJ Boombox. That one kind of stuck. I kind of
I referenced it every now and then. I don't know,
maybe I should just make that the name because I

(00:52):
kind of like it. It's it's so silly and it's
right to the point. But he doesn't know what the
hell it sound way. It's not his thing. He's out
here trying to, you know, do these roles where he's
playing gritty characters with a mustache. He hasn't anything about transformers.
But anyway, there's a very special episode and I want
to make sure that everybody here understands, you know what

(01:13):
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We are happy to participate in the third edition of
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thousand podcasts that highlighted charity of their choice, and today,
for my episode right here, we are going to have
the pleasure of welcoming the Chuck Jones Center for Creativity.

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You can find them at Chuck Jonescenter dot org. And
you know, growing up on Looney Tunes and all that,
Chuck Jones is the man behind all that, you know,
Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck and everything. And there's a
list of charities that we could pick and that one
just kind of jumped out at me, like, you know what,
I like art, I like cartoons. You know, I'm all
about seeing this stuff because of my five year old
daughter and she's in the you know, drawing and arts.

(01:55):
I think a lot of people listening maybe you also
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and welcome into the first version. But as part of
the third edition of the podcast on and there's thousands
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(02:16):
You can find this episode on there. They're just all
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the podcast space all these special episodes and highlighting different charities.
So big up to the podcast on. Glad to be
part of it. Make sure you go out there and
check out some of these great, great charities and these
great podcasts besides this one. And when you're done with this,

(02:38):
go check out the Chuck Jones Center for Creativity, check
out the podcast on and check out Grand Official their
new album Supreme. And the reason why I bring that
up is because Grip, the producer of that group, is
on the show today to talk about that album and
much much more. But we never go forward without going back,
and let's go back to the last episode. And I
was really hyped to have on Chicago hip hop artist

(02:58):
fillmore Green talking about his new album, The Grand Design.
Was the second time on the show, and really had
a blast talking with him. So let's go ahead and
blast backwards to the last episode Flashback. Fillmore Green on
the Infinite Banter podcast Flashback.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
This album is the album for My Flowers. You know,
you show love for so many people throughout the years.
I say, man, let me, let me give back to
me on this word, and I'm gonna give the people
who's listening a great museum of sound and lyricism that
they that they have heard from me before, but on
another level, So the flowers represent the people as you

(03:32):
hit the skits, they're giving me my flowers. So that's
what they represent most of those people on those skits
that people that saw me from the very beginning, you know,
and it was only right I couldn't get everybody, but
you know we got room next album, right yeah yeah yeah,
so yeah man, they're giving me my flowers, bro, So

(03:53):
that's what it's about.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Definitely go back and check out that episode. If you've
not had a chance, And if you've not heard that album,
The Grand Design from philmore Green, go seek it out.
Check out his other projects like the Cost of Living,
and you know, he's really doing big things. And I
think that those of you who are not in the
Chicago area who maybe are not familiar with him, you
should start hearing his name a lot more so. Philmore
Green had a great time with him. Go check out

(04:16):
that episode. And I know I've got maybe a few
extra listeners that I don't normally have because of the
podcast on, So welcome in. There's a show where I
usually have a guest on. Sometimes it's a hip hop artist,
sometimes it's an actor from a show or a movie,
or sometimes it's a wrestler whatever. Have it all kinds
of different things on here, So definitely welcome in and
help you check out other episodes that I've done, been
doing this for six years and over two hundred episodes,

(04:38):
so welcome in. Everybody's checking the show out. As part
of the podcast on let's get into the show, We're
going to talk to Grip from the Grand Official group
out in La talk about their new album Supreme. And also,
since I have done six years of this show, I've
been kind of racking my brain the last couple of
days and talk to my guy DJ a real one.
We were texting back about songs that are on the

(04:59):
B side of either like a vinyl single or a
cassette single, a lot of them, you know from the
early days, you know, late eighties, arly nineties, stuff like that.
And I just started thinking about some of my favorite
songs that never appeared on the album but you could
only hear it on the B side of that single,
And there are so many great ones. I had a
hard time coming up with a list, but I made

(05:19):
six because this is a six years anniversary of this show,
so I made six. So stay tuned. After the interview
at Grip, I'll give you my six favorite songs that
ended up on B sides of singles that were never
on the album. That followed the single or a part
of that single, so stay tuned for that. A lot
going on here part of the third edition of the
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the podcast on. So let's get into it. Grip is

(06:23):
here from Grand Official talking about his new album Supreme.
But before we do anything, we always go out to
Queens and the one and Only DMC gets on, and
he's in the art and stuff too. I mean, he's
a big advocate for drawing and comic books and stuff,
so he would definitely give a thumbs up for the
Chuck Jones Center Creativity Chuck Jonescenter dot Org. DMC gets on,
he says this, and now it's official Grand Official, Yo yo,

(06:45):
what's up?

Speaker 4 (06:45):
This is me DMC to Ki and g the greatest
MC in historyad And right now you're listening to Infinite
Banter because we will banter on forever, because this is
the only place for all of youall to ever be
ib infinite Banta.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
So before we talk to Grip from the group Grand
Official about the new album Supreme, let's go ahead and
play a track from that album, and this one right here,
there's a video four. If you go on YouTube, type
in Grand Official, this should be one of the first
things that pop up. The song is called Respect. It's
featuring the one and Only caras One and I want
to play this one because well it's the only time
I probably get arras One on the show. So whatever,

(07:24):
it's a great song though. I think it's a good
way to introduce you guys to this group and to
this album. This track here is called Respect featuring the
one and only kras One. And on the other side
of this we'll talk to Grip, the man behind the
production of that album. We're gonna get into a lot
of stuff, so stay tuned here on the podcast. On
edition of the Infinite Banter podcast. Let's go k I
rest one big dose Queen officials with the grand kill.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
Let's go dust the haters off, the shoulders up in
the coke, this white color, the rofer on my coat,
crush flies and catching over here, Jack Ryan fetching the
red okobas the plug coaster wring from South of the Border,
got that white gold, find it ready to order, holding
the sheep's clothing heat the lambs of the sawder.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
They trying to get at me, but they should have tried.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Order the bed, not Maraud.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
I'm gonna die in some water from that black one
eighties in that pen striped starter matched two seventy some
meeting and my daughter's he exact one eight Me and
my and my bipolar, my ten and Sosa no my
water supper.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Them got a lose A.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
Composer, Hen game By or you really can'ting know for
respect because this one here is for the coach from
the whist you would tie will be rocking is fresh
five shine you shine, and it's some one of the next.

Speaker 6 (08:52):
You gotta keep him a check.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
The ain't coming come jack money in power, but first
for Belson keeping it one hundred give to you, I ring.
How you really donna stop when the real est nails
whenever you're want. We got a little day out out
check money.

Speaker 6 (09:06):
And powers, respect, big money, big power, and still my respect.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
What you're doing on for?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
What did you really get?

Speaker 6 (09:13):
You can't see reech but the scenes, the streets you
forget no more hurt when you're between the.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Cash and a check.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
But these hustles they don't care and seeing you heavy,
pushing the beats and coming and friendly, leaving you empty.
I spent a street ark because I'm street smart, rolling
like the street parkspit brawl.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
When the big stop, I.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Disrespect my thanks, respect checks, that's right.

Speaker 6 (09:31):
Good for the hood and the thanks that I get respect,
That's what we really did it for, spending brawl. If
your bribe disrespects you what you spin it for, you
may bee fitched much of spirits for the crime of
the hood. You don't really hear it no more, man,
I'm boring when I say it. Face this ship respect first,
the money basic ship.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
From the which to a time will be rocking, is
fresh ship.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
I shine you shining.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
It's someone that the nails.

Speaker 6 (09:54):
You gotta keep them in check.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
The ain't coming come round. I check money and power
the first reserve keeping it. Want a hundred, give it
to you.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
I'm red how you're really gonna stop when the real
as canails. Whatever your want, we got it over down.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
I've checked money in power.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
For first to suspectors. Ain't no one giving you. Gotta
earn it to get it.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
Pull My people dislikes the rockfully murders, trump up charges.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Nobody ever heard us family shape, no judge it.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Jervy coling a verdict, pushing each in the further claim
to protect the service, ride it in the streetsome curved
service and workers revolutionary guarantee that they hurt us reaching
for the heads top the bottom.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Of the burners.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
They don't send a teacher to suspect the game that
I'm already your lab hope self to speak a pull
up and ripping the heavy looking like the Grand rapper
and tell me you're similar.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
To the pair of Maids and Geezer can't show them.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
The livery utilize periphery, the blood connected to auxiliary pushing
the track.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Chack your history, big up the Paul Rah.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Home mean it's real, spinning room long whips with tie
will be rockets fresh you by shine you Shine, And
it's someone that the nails the guy to keep them
in check.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
The ain't coming correct.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
I've checked money in power.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
But first of keeping in one.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
How you really gonna stop when the real canas whatever
your one?

Speaker 6 (11:07):
We got it over the money and flowers space.

Speaker 7 (11:11):
Then money basis ship spect Herd, then money bass ship
spects respects the respect first, then money banks.

Speaker 8 (11:29):
Hey what up Stealsena Ghashi raising that her record shout
out the infinite Advance of Podcastle DJ sa Wave You
already no West Coastness Stop.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
You're tuned into the Infinite Venture podcast. I'm DJ Soundwave
and I'm really hyped to bring on my guest, who
is part of a hip hop crew called Grand Official.
They have a new album out now called Supreme and
the man behind the sound of that album, the producer
rep in California, is on the phone with us right now,
the one and only Grip. What's up man, Yo?

Speaker 1 (12:01):
What up man? You know, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, no doubt man. Talk about just the idea, Like
you know, before you came out, I was telling you that,
you know, I go way back and I've listened to
this stuff since like the eighties man, and I'm definitely
someone who likes the boombab style. But you guys are
out in California, so talk about just meshing that kind
of you know, you got the West Coast sound, you
get the boom bab feel, and just bringing it all
together and just coming up with a classic album here.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 9 (12:25):
First off, the group is myself, DJ's Hallucinat is our turntablist,
and MC and co producers Dose. We come out here
from the West, but at the same time we're very
inspired by the East. I have a B boy background
when I was younger, and I was, you know, heavy
into the rock steady scene and the Zoolo Nation scene
at a young age, so.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
A lot of my influences were coming from the East.

Speaker 9 (12:50):
Also, when I met Dose, he was in the West
Coast underground and East Coast, so he was like you know,
he was heavy into hieroglyphics, so's the Mischief Dell Razkaz. Also,
you know from the East you go in. We were
in the Gang Star, DJ Premier, Pete Roxy, All Smooth,
Large Professor, the i TC right, So those, you know,

(13:12):
those are a lot of art inspirations growing up KRS
Big Daddy Kane, So we always wanted to do something
that was gritty, drum driven. When I learned to make beats,
one of my mentors was a guy named ern One
that goes under Netho Bragg.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
He started me on a SP SP twelve.

Speaker 9 (13:31):
And I graduated to the SP twelve hundred and I
went into MPCs. But he told me, you know, make
sure you make your own drums. You make sure it knocks.
You know, it's got to hit hard. You gotta be
able to drop your samples and the beat should.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Ride on its own.

Speaker 9 (13:47):
So, you know, with me and Dos and hallosening, how
we think we've always tried to make that gritty boombap sound.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Man, it is a lot there. You just talked about
going back to the history of your beginnings, man, and
you talk about those at first, like you know, machine
you're using to make beats and stuff like how gradual
was it for you to learn each process or you
would you'd upgrade to like the next you know, kind
of quality of technology to do beats and such like that.

Speaker 9 (14:11):
Right, Well, when I started with a SP twelve, you know,
there's hardly any sample time, you know, you're dealing with
I believe, like a second or so.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
That's hard, right, I mean you try to chop up
something like a second and then loop it, right yeah.

Speaker 9 (14:26):
And then I think, you know, when we got up
to the SP twelve hundred, it was I believe it
was like, man, it's been so long, but I want
to say it was like two point three seconds or
three point.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
That probably from like an hour, right yeah.

Speaker 9 (14:37):
Yeah, and you know your your drums take up half
of that, so you're really working with one or two samples,
and you learn to speed up the record, slow down
the record to get the sounds you want, manipulating sound
by you know, adjusting the tune. But when when I
when I you know, when I listened to beats, I realized.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
That it's you. It's not instrumentals. You're making beats for
mcs to wrap over.

Speaker 9 (14:59):
So I was was trying to look for the perfect
background for that my men earn. He used to tell me, like,
it doesn't have to be complicated. It's so hard to
be simple and dope. Like a lot of people will take,
you know, they'll take that for granted and they'll think
it's easy, but when they try to do it themselves,
it's not easy to be simple and dope. So he
had me minimize things. I try to keep things to

(15:22):
a minimum. I try to use like three or four
different record to make one beat, just in case somebody
grabs that same sample, they're not going to know what
other records.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
I used to complete that beat. I gradually moved.

Speaker 9 (15:34):
I think I was with the SP twelve for about
a year or so, went to the twelve hundred. I
was with that for a few years, and then I
got into the NPC, and I still try to work
it like an SP where I'm chopping, but at least
I have a little more leeway.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Right, Well, was the game chang or was that the
machine there that kind of took you to that next level?
You think?

Speaker 1 (15:53):
I think so.

Speaker 9 (15:54):
Just because I was, I was able to add intros
and you know, end the beats differently.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Do different types of breaks in the middle of the
track just gave me a little more leeway if I
needed it. I try not to use it, but if
I needed it's there.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
And talk about just the early days too, when you
guys all got together. You know, how long have you
all been knowing each other? Other members are grand Official
and then even hooking up with Reagan Arow Records. I'm
sure there's some stories behind all that.

Speaker 9 (16:19):
Oh yeah, so we we all met each other, well, myself,
Dose and Hallucinate met each other in ninety four.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
We were free styling together.

Speaker 9 (16:27):
We're like, well, I was B one at the time,
Hallucinate was Djane, Dose was an MC.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Well, by the way, can you still break? I mean,
do you still do it?

Speaker 5 (16:34):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (16:35):
My body won't a lie.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
I was gonna ask because I don't know how old
you are, but I've had people on here studies a
break and he like usually answers like, well, you know kind.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Of yeah, if I do anything, it might be a
bad situation.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Oh oh damn.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
But we met each other.

Speaker 9 (16:54):
We had a little crew called Zulu Youth was as
youngsters out in United Dough hip hop and it was
all four elements in that group. Then I started I
stopped b boying. I started rhyming. Me hallucine and Dose
would rhyme together. Then it went from we had a
crew called seven Chemists, and we had met dios Nagasi
and Scrill Dior when they were about fifteen years old, wow,

(17:17):
and we were about, I don't know, seventeen eighteen years
old at that time.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
So we were rhyming with them since they were fifteen.

Speaker 9 (17:24):
And then I would say that happened for a few
years and we were just freestyle battle mcs and do
you get older and everybody starts doing their own things.
So they went off and you know, continue to rhyme together.
Me Dosa hallucinate also went in a different direction, still rhyming.
And then later on, man, I want to say, like

(17:44):
what twenty years later, twenty five years later or something
like that, a friend of ours, jay Muna, which is
an engineer, gave me a call and he's like, hey,
we used to call Diosa's name was Jigsaw back in
the day, right and Scrilla was Gemini. So he was like, yo,
along with Jigsang Gemini still and I was like, yeah, man,
we were kids, you know. So we came down to

(18:05):
the studio relinked up and we started working. We just
you know, we were freestyling back in the day and
then now it's like, wow, you know, we're old enough.
We hit the studio create songs. So it's kind of
like we picked up where we left off.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
That's crazy because there's like a good what twenty years
in between there too, right, Yeah, for sure, you know
it's it's very easy to all you guys could have
for some of you could have went off and well,
I'm doing this now and I'm family person, right or whatever.
I'm not even thinking about music anymore. And the road's
still you know, intertwined at the end, it crossed at
the end there. That's that's that's awesome. What part of
California this is like outside LA or where you guys at.

Speaker 9 (18:39):
Yeah, we're outside of La. We all we grew up
in Pika Rivero, Okay, some of them in East LA.
And DJ Hallucinate was in Pico Union and we all
met in Pico Rivera whenever we all moved there from
different cities. And in the nineties in Pico it was
very gang driven, so like when you'd see somebody wearing
a cango or fat.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Lace or you know, Free Scotland be boxing.

Speaker 9 (19:03):
You knew they were hip hop and you had to
kind of try to get over there either be friends
or you were gonna battle.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Them or something, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
So that that's how we all linked up, man.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
And you know, I got to give it up to
me because I love when I hear cuts on a record,
and there's so many scratches and cuts on this album
that just take me back to that that just that
golden era, that boombat bear or what are you.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Want to call it?

Speaker 2 (19:25):
You know, Yeah, and salutes to haucin a. He definitely
did a s thing on he He did all the
cuts on the album, right.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, all the cuts man. Yeah, if we can have
cuts on everything, we would. Yeah. Man.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I mean, and it's not on every song, but you know,
for someone like myself because you don't hear it that
much anymore. When I heard two or three when the
album started, I'm like three or four songs and I'm like, man,
I think it's like the third song or cuts on this,
I felt great.

Speaker 7 (19:49):
Man.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
It's like for me personally, I was like, all right,
this made this album for me.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 9 (19:55):
Yeah, man, We we just try to make music that
we want to hear, and we love hearing cuts on it,
you know.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Because then I like to do that thing where I'm
in my head like what is that sample from Okay,
Oh that's Caress, That's oh yeah, I know that's that's
Gangstar with Jada, because I know what that is right
where you're staying all right cool, Yeah, I'm feeling this shit.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
That's that's dope. That's what we do. We break down music,
you know, like as soon as we hear it, why
do we like it? What drums did he use?

Speaker 8 (20:19):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
What samples will cut? You know how many bars? Like
we break down songs. So I'm glad you do that
too though.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Oh man, definitely, I'm definitely that that kind of person too.
And you know I said this so on the podcast
before that. You know a lot of us old heads,
you know, kind of complain about new music and like
they don't know where to find that that sound that
they are familiar with, right And I want to say,
like everybody listening right now, this album is for you.
Go get Supreme Grand Official and the features on here.

(20:47):
Holy shit, I mean you got kras One, you got
mop on here raz Cas talk about just linking up
with some of the icons that I'm sure all of
you were influenced by and looked up to, you know,
up until this point, getting them on the album.

Speaker 9 (20:59):
Oh yeah. One of the things that made me go
from a B boy to an MC at the time
is hearing My Philosophy by KRS. And you know, I
was liking a lot of breakbeats and original like Apache,
the Mexican stuff like that, and then hearing someone spit
rhymes like KRS on My Philosophy, you know, and I
was just like, man, that's a game changer for me,

(21:19):
Like I want to do what he's doing, you know
what I mean. And for him to be on the
album was truly a blessing.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
For for all of us. The Teacher, the blast Master,
you know, and Saluta.

Speaker 9 (21:32):
Be Original, my friend of ours, the DJB Original was
working with KRS at the time, and I was trying
to shop and beats for a project.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
They were finishing up on.

Speaker 9 (21:42):
But it ended up working out where you know, we
linked We linked up through B and you know, we
asked him to be on our album.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
He asked for the last three things that.

Speaker 9 (21:53):
We put out.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
He listened to those he was down with it, went
to the studio, he wrote to the beat.

Speaker 9 (21:58):
He wrote two different verses and he let us pick,
uh the verse we wanted, which was an honor, you know,
because I'm sure he's got rhyme's galore.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
So he actually wrote to the beat and everything, so
it wasn't just rhym's over beats, like he really you know,
did what the blastmaster does and we got to pick
and that that was. That was awesome. You know, us
coming from the West, you.

Speaker 9 (22:21):
You you hear raz and you hear people that are
representingwere from where you're from. Uh, people will always say like, yeah,
you know, he's one of the dopest lyricss in in
the West. I think he's just one of the dopest
lyrics period in hip hop. So the dose was very
influenced by Razz back in the day. So you know
that was that was that was really dope for it

(22:41):
to happen be original. All the also hooked hooked us
up with Cappa Donna be has a DJ for them
quite a few times.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
He linked us up with the like.

Speaker 9 (22:58):
Yeah, yeah, so and that's us bro, Like we wanted
that to sound cipherish, because you know, that's where the
chemist Grant official had started. Reagan Era started from. Was
from that cipher hearing have a bunch of people around,
you know. Just that's what we were trying to capture
him by any means shout out.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
To a one.

Speaker 9 (23:15):
He also linked us up with the beat Miners and
DJ Skiz that have the two other joints Kings and
there it is produced by them.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, beat Miners. And I've said this so many times
every time I do an interview with someone has an
album out on here is like, I always look at
the track list first, and you know when you see features,
of course that they gets you geet because you can't
for familiar with that feature. You want to hear it too.
But I saw Beat Miners like that was the one.
I was like, Man, this is okay. The whole album.
I don't because I don't like just playing certain tracks.
I don't hear the whole thing from start to finish

(23:44):
and get the vibe from it. And right I wanted
to go back to the cares one thing a little bit.
You said, there's two verses, where's that other one? Did
he give you both or did he keep the other one?

Speaker 1 (23:53):
No? He kept the other one and he used it
for another project.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Oh, I got you got you? And yeah, that says
a lot about him because he wants to hear the
stuff you guys have done before, and he probably, I'm
guessing you know, makes sense. He wanted to make sure
that what he was writing kind of felt like what
you would. You guys would do what he would. He'll
be able to be versatile and work with what you
guys do and come come together with you guys. Yeah
that's great.

Speaker 9 (24:14):
Yeah, And you know, and with someone at his status,
I'm sure he's worried about who's good he's gonna feature
with them? Well, there you go, you know, right, yeah,
you know, so I'm just glad it worked that either way.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Man, you know, because you know, doing this podcasting, I
know it's different than music, but in a way it's
sort of similar that whenever I try to get a
guest to come on, I hope that at the very
least they at least, you know, when on Instagram or
something to look at what I've done, and you know,
they you know, not getting on some sort of like
weird conspiracy podcast, some kind of crazy I know whatever,
And you know what, something that's not what you're about.
He's like, what is this guy talking about? I don't
want to be on that ship. So it's the same thing,

(24:50):
you know. I don't want to get on the track
with some guys who are, you know, rapping about whatever,
you know, So I want to make sure that I'm
down for what they're down with. And there you go. Man,
So salutes A carras one And that's his work. Ethic
is unbelievable, obviously.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, And you know, and Capadonna did the same thing.

Speaker 9 (25:05):
He actually made us make the song without him on
it and send it so maybe just to see if
he even felt it, you know. But you know, everybody
has their own process, and you know, I'm glad that
we that we were able to link with them for sure.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, and the tracks a mop, I would think, because
it feels like whenever you hear an MP track, that
feels like it's a collab always like there because there's
so much energy when they do songs. I feel like,
you guys, probably it was a little bit different working
with them right where they had to probably kind of
go back and forth with them, I would imagine, right.

Speaker 9 (25:36):
Yeah, Well, I think what helped us is we had
done a song before the album called pros and Cons
and it was with Fame, right, so we had kind
of got like how the process was, and we made
all these songs that right when COVID hit, so a
lot of people weren't getting together. And before that, you know,
with email and everything, everybody doesn't want to you know, travel,

(25:57):
they don't want to you know, change their schedule or
whatever the case, you know, or they could just be
busy out of town or whatever whatever is going on.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
But with MP we did the pros and Cons.

Speaker 9 (26:07):
And then right after that we had did Supreme and
we we uh we we asked Fame if we could
get Teflon on the joint. So we got Teflon, Fame
and a friend of our Sad Life on Supreme, and
that was kind of like, Okay, you know, this is
the second joint. You know, you know Dose is doing
his best because you know, they got a lot of energy.

(26:29):
So in order to match that energy, you know, it's
a learning process. You gotta do what you gotta do,
you know, And that I think that got us a
little warm. And then when we got to the joint
fire where it's Fame and Billy dance. I think we
already kind of understood and we had been big fans
of MP.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
We already broke them down, like to see what they do,
and we love the way they they go back and forth.

Speaker 9 (26:55):
It's just it's the perfect blend is fame and billy dance,
you know, just like it's just like Mob Deep was
with you know, Havoc and P Like they just got
that chemistry right. So you know, for us to get
in there and do our thing, uh, you know, it
ain't easy, but you know, I really like those joints
that MOP was on for sure.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah, man, I like how you put that because the
build up the Fire featuring MP, I think the sequence
of it is perfect. It's like right in the middle
of the album. So after you hear you know, these
first three or four tracks, you're just bringing it, bringing it,
bringing it, and then that one it almost feels like
it's the boiling points, like it's just coming out. It's
just here it is. It's like there it goes.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, No, definitely man.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
And and the track after that, Wolves featuring dial Snegassi. Uh, man,
I love that track. I like the Unforgiven sample at
the beginning. I love that movie by the way recipes
Gene Hackman, that movie's probably been watched a lot the
last couple of weeks. But uh, you know in that movie.
When that movie came on, I was thought of that
scene too, But I like how you guys put that
in there, and then like what you guys are saying
in that song is is nuts man talk about that

(27:56):
track wolves?

Speaker 9 (27:57):
Yeah, so those uh that hit me up and you
know we really like when uh I believe it's Surge
Inks that used that for ice Cube and.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Oh yeah that that is where I heard that from
first heard it.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
You know, Alchemist has used that sample. Uh, you know,
fifties used that sample.

Speaker 9 (28:17):
Quite a few people have done it, you know, but
we we did it almost like paying homage because most
of our stuff is East Coast.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Driven, and you know, me and Dos used to love
that song by his Cube. So he hit me up
and he was like, hey, can you can.

Speaker 9 (28:30):
You manipulate that sample and do you know, let's let's
do that, you know, so he he had the idea
of the intro uh and kind of how to construct
it once.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
I made the beat. Dose is very uh, he's very
hands on when it comes to the production.

Speaker 9 (28:46):
You know, I put the beat together, and I'll put
a few sequences together and he can hear how he
wants to start it end it, you know. So we
had did that track some years back before the album,
and then when we decided to do the album, we
brought it back and we dropped the verse and put
Dios Nagasi.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
On it and that and that song kind of kicks
you to the second half of the album kind of
slows down a little bit, right, Yeah, And I feel
like that was a good one. That kind of after Fire,
you almost needed like the simmer down a little bit
and then here here, here we go. We're gonna have
some storytelling about you know, what's going on in the
neighborhood and things like that, and and the rise you
guys are living. So yeah, it definitely, man that that

(29:27):
track definitely takes it to another level too. Man, was
that an idea you guys thought you might have, like
kind of a like the second half might be a
little more mellow and laid back where the first half
might be yeah, fire and hot.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (29:37):
Yeah. So when we did the track Greed and Lessons,
you know, those are a lot slower than how the
album starts, So for us. It was like, we want
to be able to put these songs that relay a
message also because you know, we that's what our era did.
You know, you definitely had your songs with the message

(29:58):
in it. So I had an idea for Agreed shout
it to Dose. We had lessons that comes wrong and
right after it, So we needed that like segue in
the middle to not bore you or to be uh,
you know, for you to listen to the other songs
even though.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
They're not as hype as the first ones, you know, right.

Speaker 9 (30:15):
So so wolves uh Dose came up with the order
for for Wolves, and I think that that blended well
into the transition of greed and lessons.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
And so yeah, and I'm sure there's a science behind
that too, because I mean, if you're trying to work
songs together and sequence them, you don't you don't want
a hot song laid back, so you know, maybe it's
too much back and forth, and you do it that
way where you guys kind of did it, where a
lot of the songs are kind of bunched together the
same feel and same vibe. So I as a listener,
I liked it because I kind of knew where I
was gonna be at for this one. In stead of
jumping up and down, I'm gonna just chill what you

(30:45):
guys are saying on these next couple of songs. So
I'll definitely feel how you guys sequence it is. That's
something you guys are always conscious of when you're sequencing
yeah album.

Speaker 9 (30:52):
Yeah, And on top of that, like for this being
our very first album, like you know, we had done
a lot experimental stuff before this, and there's like four
or five different versions of this album and you know,
different orders.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
And everything, and when the way we did it is
we all kind of made our own order.

Speaker 9 (31:12):
We listened to it dos like how I did the
first half of it, and then I liked how he
did a section of it, and then we reconstructed it again.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
And you know, the order came out, you know, pretty
much the way we would like it.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
And it's a lot with nineteen tracks, right, I mean,
you've got to figure out where to put everything, and
I'm sure that you guys said different like puzzle pieces
going here and there, and just kind of eventually got
to a point where you satisfied with how it came out.
And definitely Yah feeling it.

Speaker 9 (31:39):
Yeah, for sure, you know, and it helped. You know,
we have the sixteen tracks and then three interludes. The
very first guy on the on the intro is a
good friend of ours, Big Steve O.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
He was going through a traumatic time with his family.
I had recorded him talking and.

Speaker 9 (31:55):
That's what he said, you know, and we've kept that
I think since like two thousand and third teen or.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Something like that.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
That's a that's going way back.

Speaker 9 (32:02):
Okay, yeah, and you know what well we we you know,
when you hear Dyla on uh you know Stakes is
high the album.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
You know, he's talking to that guy in the street,
That's what it reminded me of.

Speaker 9 (32:13):
And Dose also and we were like, no matter what,
when we do our project like this is very impactful,
Like we got to use this friend of ours, so
Fly that's on the other interlude. He's been a friend
of mine since we were kids, and he's always believed
in the you know what we were doing.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Uh, So we have him on an interlude from the.

Speaker 9 (32:32):
Chambers that's where all the Reagan Erakats are working. We
introduced each you know, we we all met through my
mentor Earn and we continued to work with and he's showed.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Us a lot of love, so we have him on
the album.

Speaker 9 (32:47):
So those little things that really helped construct the album
and kind of give it it sounds, which which was
really dope.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Man, that's pretty cool to hear that. And I'm sure
they were hyped to be on there as well, right,
I mean.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Oh yeah, sure they were. You know, they've been waiting
for this.

Speaker 9 (33:02):
They would tell me, you know, we're waiting for the album, like, man,
I'm waiting for the album, you know.

Speaker 7 (33:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Man, Well it's crazy because, like you said, you brought
up covid earlier, and there's so many things that get
in the way of putting things out, and you know
the fact that you know, you guys are able to
get this together. And I'm sure they were anxious, but
they were obviously a big part of getting the album
and getting you guys to this point where an album
could come out. So it was a nice salute to
them to have those interluders featuring them.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, well, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
And for people listening, there's a video. I forgot to
mention this with the keras one song, respect there's a
there's a video for it, and he's in the video.
That's what's cool about he did his part in the
booth right, and yeah, that's an added bonus. It's not
just the you know vocal.

Speaker 9 (33:40):
Yeah, you know, he was in I believe he was
in Atlantic City at the time, and he did this
a favor by We told him what we wanted to
do and he did it for us and got you know,
got a camera crew from over there and you know,
just did what he did at least capture the moment.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, man, that just respect. I mean the title just
you know, that's what it is, Karus woman. Just big
respect to him for doing that. And he had the
video comes together greats and everybody listening, make sure you
go check out the video on YouTube. But then your
other videos from the album. Maybe I didn't catch one,
but I only saw that one so far.

Speaker 6 (34:11):
No.

Speaker 9 (34:12):
Right now, we are in the middle filming Kings the
Beat Minors joint Nice featuring JR. We're gonna get some
visuals on that, and I'm almost positive that we're gonna
do a video for Better Recognized with Razkaz.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Either you gets in that one too, or he said
he would do.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
It as you go. He's a busy man.

Speaker 9 (34:35):
I just I just gotta fit you know fit in
there somewhere, but yeah, no, I'll.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Get it, got it, Yeah, find a way to get
him in there, right, Yeah, for sure, dope man, definitely
for sure.

Speaker 10 (34:46):
Man.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
And since you do you know, production and stuff, is
there somebody that you're you're feeling right now? We're some
of your favorite producer? I know you mentioned Gang Stars,
so obviously Premier has got to be high up there,
and you said some d I T. C. Stuff. Is
there other producers that definitely helped influence you or people
you like listening to when they put out stuff?

Speaker 9 (35:01):
Yeah, A large professor, A large professor, Alchemist?

Speaker 8 (35:07):
Who else?

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Mad Live? Of course?

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Oh right, yeah out there for sure?

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Yeah yeah, Mad Live, J Dilla? Who else? Pete Rock
of course?

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Right, you mentioned him?

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah yeah, Pete Rock? Who else? Would it be? Just Blaze?

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Just you know that's kind of my core right there?
I guess, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
There's always others too. When you're on the spot, you're
trying to think of sometimes the top of your head.
But there's probably like one hundred you could name if
you actually sat down road a list, right, But.

Speaker 9 (35:35):
Yeah, I think I would name everybody as a boobat producer.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
You know right, no doubt, you know for sure.

Speaker 9 (35:42):
Those are my core.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
And what was the song that would get you you know,
back in your B boy days?

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Did you have a signature song that you always had
to press play on so you could get the moves going?

Speaker 9 (35:51):
Or in the B boy days, man, you know Apache,
I think yeah, Apache, Patchy would get.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
His going the Mexican, the Mexican. It was always a joint,
you know.

Speaker 9 (36:02):
And when we were young, we were like, I think
it was like fourteen fifteen years old. It was like
Prince Whip for Whip and uh, who else was it?
They had a show on Power One was six at
one time, and no, it was Prince Whip for Whip.

Speaker 8 (36:15):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
I can't remember the other one, but it.

Speaker 9 (36:19):
Was some of the Zoo the Nation cats and they
had shouted us out, uh and they had played the
Mexican and that was the first time I heard it
to a bunch of Mexicans, which is kind of funny,
but yeah, but after that, that became our theme song man,
that that would come on. You know, you'd be at
one hundred and ten percent.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
That's a B boy staple right there. I mean, even
a DJ staple because you know, just cutting up that
song and it's just an all time great break record.
I had Halo on here about a year ago from
Reagan era, and he said he used to break back
in the day. I think he told me Egyptian Lover
was his his song. I gotta go back and play
that episode, but I think he said that was the
one that would get him going.

Speaker 9 (36:56):
I wasn't down a Planet rocket the Egyptian Lover play
It's your Own Risk all that was.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, you know that was our era.

Speaker 10 (37:04):
Man.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
That's just man. It takes me back. And this album,
for every listening takes takes you back. If you listen
to it. Check it out. Where can people find Supreme
from Grand Officials? Is it on all platforms? Where can they?

Speaker 1 (37:16):
So? For some reason, we're having issues with iTunes and Spotify.
They have our singles on there, but the whole album
isn't on there yet.

Speaker 9 (37:23):
They can get a majority of the singles on iTunes
or Spotify, but right now it's on SoundCloud, It's on
Amazon Music, Pandora, and YouTube music.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
That's what's up man, everybody.

Speaker 9 (37:35):
Yeah, and I if I'm not mistaken, By probably the
end of this week, it'll be on SoundCloud all.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Right, so everybody make sure you check out the album
on SoundCloud and Pandora places like that. Will eventually be
on place like band camp you think as well, yes, okay,
no doubt man. And how can they follow you on
Instagram and Facebook? Wherever you do postings, they keep up
with you and the group.

Speaker 9 (37:57):
So my Instagram is grip Grand Official g R I
P same thing well the Facebook Grand Official's mind also
and if you look up hip Hop Duality, uh, they
also help help me with some of my promotions. So
you can contact hip Hop Duality and they'll get in
contact with me also. And yeah, and someone want to

(38:18):
say thanks to Jerry Graham.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Also salute to Jerry for sure.

Speaker 7 (38:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah, he always brings it man, every time he emails me.
You know, he doesn't let me down with you know,
possible guests to come on the podcast. And like I
mentioned you before, when I saw that you guys are
affiliated with Reagan Aero Records, even before I press play,
I'm like I already told them, like, yeah, go ahead,
I don't even have to hear it. I mean I
did hear it, of course, but it's like one of
those like I already trust you know, there's too much.
There's too much, you know, caris one Reagan Aero Records, Like,

(38:44):
all right, I'm good, Yeah, yeah, I'm sure these guys are.
It's like, don't even it convinced me at all. So man,
just just big up grip for coming through on the
podcast here, and what's next for you guys. You guys
got something else in the work, so you just really
kind of pushing this album first.

Speaker 9 (38:58):
And yeah, we're gonna continue to push this album. But
we're in the middle of finishing on EP named Ronan
Oh nice Dose, and we have maybe have a couple
of features on there also, and then we have a
few singles that we're working on as well. And then
I'm I'm working with a few different cats from Reagan
that were doing also some single features, Halo, Diverse, Sneak, Rosstein, Vido.

(39:24):
Almost almost all of them I have like at least
a single to be pushing out there.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
You go, And you know, even when they put out stuff,
I'm sure you guys are gonna appear on some of
their stuff too, So it's gonna be a lot of
back and forth. I'm sure we're oh yeah, both both
your camps.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 9 (39:38):
And then also there's gonna be a chemist album coming
out of things. When we first reunited, we dropped about
seven joints and we're gonna be putting that out.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Also, that's what's up man. Everybody listening, make sure you
check out Grand Official. The album is called Supreme. And
we're talking to the one and only Grip here on
the Infinite Answer podcast. Man, Grip is an honor having
you on here. And I could go find that that
Mexican record, and I know I have it somewhere. I
got a bunch of records here in my stash. I
gotta see if I could play it, babe, Ruth right,

(40:06):
is that the artist? It didn't? Yeah, yeah, I know
I have it somewhere in the in the breakbeat set
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
But yeah, yeah, well when you play you could dedicate
just some Mexicans over here.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Now, well I'm here in Chicago. We got we got
some here too, So definitely salute to salute to all
our Mexican brothers and sisters out there. Were definitely feeling
that track and and man, man, big up for coming through.
Always always fun talking to you know, artists I'm not
familiar with, and now I'm familiar and I'm definitely feeling
this album and you guys definitely took me back to
that time where you know that the head nod era man,

(40:38):
so big up, thank you, thank you, no doubt. Everybody,
make sure you check out Grand Official, the new album Supreme,
and check out the production done by my guy Grip.
Thanks a lot man for coming on the show. Man,
I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Oh thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Big thanks to Grip for coming on the show. Everybody
go out there and check out Grand Official, follow them
online and check out that new album Supreme. All you
old heads, you know, the guys like myself who started
listening to his music in the eighties and nineties. I
really feel like this album is made for you guys,
so definitely check it out. A lot of great features
on there, like Razkaz mop I had a hard time

(41:11):
picking which songs to play from that album because there's
so many great ones. And he had mentioned, I just
want to say this real quick. We were talking about
break songs, songs that you know somebody back in the
day would break dance too, and a song that would
get you going, and he had mentioned his favorite was
the Mexican from Babe Ruth, and I started thinking, like,
what's one. I mean, I can't dance for shit, so

(41:31):
I really need to stay out of this conversation. But
if I were to pick one, and you know, you know,
as you DJ anyway, you would play these songs for
other people to dance, so it works both ways here.
So this song that I think would be my favorite,
and it's probably an easy one, but everybody probably would
say this. This is probably be a top five song
to do. This too, would be the Jimmy Caster Bunch.

(41:52):
It's just begun. I can play that one over and
over again, easily one of my favorite breakbeat records of
all time, and one that just as soon as you
started hearing it, as soon as it kicks on, you know,
guys start going crazy. So that would be my That'd
be my song, my my I can't dance for ship,
but I'm gonna try something, some little quick move and
then go sit down. This song that would be for me.

(42:13):
All right. Speaking of songs, let's get into another track
from the album Supreme from the group Grand Official and
me and Grip talked about this one a little bit.
Produced by the beat Miners, I mean, Legendary Crew in
the hip hop game. This song here is called Kings
So here we Go from the new album Supreme from
Grand Official Beat Miners under production. This is called Kings
here on the podcast on edition of the Infinite Banter

(42:36):
Podcasts Don't never let him tell you you.

Speaker 10 (42:42):
Ain't shit.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
And Let's go so like a phenomenon in the same
the run of the Echo, Lagna World, the side of
my palms and the black leather posted up similar to
the fauce amongst the pantheonic Kings prophets of dawns for
my people. Then they made it a physically gone when
I'm writing, you could fill them inside of the song,

(43:14):
and it ain't right. That's my writing is right in
my wrongs like years Ahead, I'm a buffer beyond told
Joe with act like the approach in the const remaining
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For you to leave assholes? That is Kirk casoveto tell
me to get out of here, and that is exactly
what I'm going to do. But as usual, before I go,
I got a quick thing I gotta do. I did
tease at the beginning that I started thinking about my
favorite B side songs and this kind of got sparked
when I was a messaging back of my guy DJ
Real One shout out to him. He's a big, you know,
vinyl head DJ for years, collects all kinds of records

(48:03):
and everything, and you know, we're going back and forth
about some of our favorite songs at our B sides,
and I just started thinking about them and started writing
down a couple and next thing I know, I had
enough to like maybe I should do a list. So
since it's the sixth anniversary of the show and we're
doing a special episode here being part of the podcast
on why don't I just do a quick list here?
So I made six of my favorite B side songs. Now,

(48:25):
these are songs that never appeared on the album for
that artist. And these are hip hop songs. I'm not
going into other genres. I don't want to go there.
Maybe someday I'll try a non hip hop one, but
this is strictly hip hop. That's my lane. These are
songs that were on the b side of a more
popular single of a song that got radio play, got released,
but for whatever reason, did not appear on the album.
And I think those are significant songs because basically, what

(48:46):
it made you do is made you go buy the single.
And a lot of times I was buying the cassette
singles because I was not a DJ yet and I
wasn't buying vinyl, and I was only buying the singles
on cassette. It's like a play with my little walkman
as I was going to school or whatever. So here's
my list of my six favorite ones. And like I said,
they could not appear on the album. That's the caveat

(49:08):
here there's a couple and I'll get into it when
I get to them that did appear on like compilations
and greatest hits albums down the line because they were
so big that they were, you know, almost needed to
be part of a catalog beyond just a B side
you know label, but you know that still applies here.
So nothing from a movie soundtrack or anything like that.
No B sides that you know ended up on an

(49:28):
album eventually, No, no, no, these are strictly B side
songs that if you bought this artist album, the B
side song is not part of it. So hopefully it
makes sense. Didn't hurt your brain with that one? I
think I hurt mine. So let's get into it. Here's
my favorite six and they are in order from h
I want to say worst the bottom of the list,
at the top of the list. All right, So number
six is from Tupac and his probably one of his

(49:51):
biggest singles was I Get Around, came out in ninety
three on that album. But the B side had a
song called nothing but Love. And I remember when I
saw the single in the store, it's said on there,
not available on LP, not available on album. And I
don't remember if I had the CD already, but I
do remember buying the cassette single because I said, oh
my god, there's a Tupac song that I don't have.

(50:11):
I need it, so I bought the cassette single for that,
I Get Around, which is a great song by the way,
and it's not on the album. So Nothing but Love
was one of my favorite memorable B side songs. You
did not see this on his album that came out,
and it seemed to happen a lot in the nineties,
there was a lot more. I don't know if it's
just a way to get people to buy singles as

(50:34):
opposed is buying the album, but it seems like on
my list, I'm noticing I only have one from the
eighties and the rest are all from the nineties. So
number five on my list is from Cyprus Hill and
the song is called Scooby Doo and it's the b
side to Lick a Shot, which was on Black Sunday,
their second album, and Scooby Doo. I know, it's hard
not to laugh saying that title, and it sounds like

(50:54):
a goofy song just saying that, what do they do
a song for the cartoon? No, I know, I'm endorsing
cartoon on here with the Chuck Jones Center for Creativity.
Go check come out at Chuck Jooncenter dot org. But
uh yeah, the song's not really about the dog. It's
about something else. Cypress Hill, they usually had two things
they were talking about in their songs, and sometimes together,

(51:16):
smoking and shooting. I think it's about both. I mean
it's on the B side to Lick a Shot. You
can figure it out. But it's a great record. It's
got that you know that that peak Cypress Hill sound
from the early nineties, and definitely go check it out.
Scooby doo, y'all, after you hear that song, I guarantee
you will be saying that as you're walking away. Maybe

(51:37):
you'll be humming that later in your best be real voice.
Number four on my list is Heavy D and the Boys.
You can't see what I can see. And now this
song really has some special meaning for me because I
remember the video came out for and I don't think
I had Peaceful Journey, the album that this would have
been on, yet, but I remember the song came out.

(51:58):
There's a video flavor Flavors in the video because they
sample him for the hook, and it's like one of
the hardest Heavy D songs you ever heard. I'm like,
what is this like, there's a video, Okay, this must
be like one of his main singles let Me Go
get Peaceful Journey, Well it's not on there. You had
to go buy the Don't Curse single and flip it
over to the B side to get that, and Don't
Curse is like a great record. I mean, there's so

(52:20):
many people on that song. I don't have enough time
in this podcast. I mean I do, but I'm not
gonna do it to name everybody that's in that song.
You go play Don't Curse. If you haven't heard that song,
it's it's a great, great record. But on the B
side you can't see. What I can see to me
is like really the template for a great B side.
It has a video, it has a cameo in it.
It's one of the harder songs that Heavy d Ever did.

(52:42):
It's not an album you're asked out. You gotta go
buy the single or tape it off the radio like
the old days. Number three on my list. So this
group is notorious for doing this, especially in this era
of the Beastie Boys. The song is called Skills to
Pay the Bills. You only know it if you bought
this so what you Want single during that check your
head ill communication ero. So like ninety two, ninety four

(53:04):
In that those two or three years there, they released
you know, a lot of singles, and the b sides
were always filled with extra stuff, more than one song
that you didn't have on the album. But the standout
B side for them with Skills to Pay the Bills,
And I remember always wondering like, why is this not
on check your head? Because check your head, I'll be
honest with you. It has a lot of instrumental songs
that I kind of wish there was more vocal songs

(53:26):
on there, and this would have fit in perfectly, but
you know, I'm not there. You know they're not asking
my opinion. So therefore it's a great B side song
that you could find on the So What You Want single?
And they had a lot of those Maxi singles. I
remember the first one I bought was the Past to
Mike Cassette single. There's a lot of great extra stuff
on there, and yeah, this Skills to Pay the Bills
thing is that's awesome. You gotta have that song and

(53:48):
if you're a BC boy fan, you haven't heard that
song before. Again, with all of these get on YouTube,
they're all there. Number two, which really would be my
number one if not for the song that I'm going
to say at number one because it's just such a
great song. The number one one, number two is EPMD.
The B side to Crossover. The song is called Brothers
from Brentwood, Long Island. I remember I heard it on

(54:09):
I think it was nine to fifty AM, which is
in the Chicago area, a radio station that played you know,
hip hop music throughout the day for a couple of years,
and man, I remember I heard it. I'm like, that
song is great, and I think I did have the
album already and I knew it wasn't on there. Business
Never Personal. That's the album. It was the last epm
D album before they broke up and got back together.

(54:31):
This is their last album before their official breakup. And
I remember getting on a bus and going to like
the Lincolnwood Mall, going to Tape World or whatever, and
getting Crossover, which is the big hit from that album,
and getting it and that B side, Man, that song.
I played it right before I got on here, and
I'm just like, damn, that song is great. It still
holds up in twenty twenty five as it did thirty

(54:54):
something years ago. It's just crazy how great that song is.
EPMD Brothers from Brentwood, Long Island could be my favorite
B side song except the one I'm about to say
is just undeniable. So the number one song here, And
before I say it, I have to admit that it
ended up on a Greatest Hits album. It ended up
on Mister Magic's Rap Attack album, so it was easy

(55:16):
to find eventually. But the first time I heard it
was on the radio and I recorded it off the
radio and that's how I had my copy of it
for years until that Greatest Hits album came out. But
it's run DMC from nineteen eighty five Together Forever, also
known as Crush Grew four Man. I love that damn record.
Like when I think of my favorite run DMC songs,
like there's some that you know, there's such big songs

(55:38):
that I don't play them all the time, But the
ones that I do play the most are the songs
like that that are not necessarily the most known songs,
but by the true fans, they hold those songs in
high regard. And just to tell you how great that
song is, if you remember that day last soul record
with Redman called Ooh Well, Redman is basically doing the
beginning of that song to start that song. So these

(55:59):
pay omage to the how great this song is just
by doing it with Daylas Soul in that record. So, man,
I love this song so much. It's got like the
you know, the crowd audience in the background kind of
plugged in and it sounds like a live song even
though it's not. Man, it's such a great record. And
I remember it was the b side to Can You
Rocket Like This from King of Rock, But it's not
on King of Rock. If you bought King of Rock,

(56:20):
this song is not on there, you'd be mad disappointed
because it's not there. It eventually did come out on
Rundium Sea's Greatest Hits album, which came out in like
nineteen ninety. I remember I got that for Christmas because
it had that song and Christmas and Hollis. I was like, great,
and I finally have at the time the full collection
of their stuff because those two songs were like not
on their albums. So it was really cool that this

(56:41):
song ended up on there, and I had a better
copy than my taped off the radio version. It didn't
sound that great, to be honest. So there's my list
together Forever from Rundiam seeds number one and go check
out these songs if you've not heard them, they're all
available on YouTube. Is what are some of the songs
that I should know about. I'm sure there's a bunch
that I'm totally overlooking, but these are just the ones

(57:01):
out the top of my head without doing a whole
lot of research. That just popped up because I had
memories of driving to Coconuts or taking a bus to
you know, Sam Goodie or whatever name your record store
it doesn't exist anymore, and going to get these cassette
singles strictly for that other song that was not on
that album. Your kids don't know what it's like.

Speaker 6 (57:20):
Man.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
You know, you get to like listen to stuff wherever
you want to, just put it on your phone and
you get to hear it. I had to like get
on a bus, go pay money to get on a
bus and walk and then go in some store and
I hope it was still there because somebody told me
they had it, you know, the day before or something.
You better hurry up get it, man. So shout out
to that era, man, because a lot of us grew

(57:40):
up in it. We cherished those days. Man had to
work hard for this music. I'm giving it to you
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Being on the Infinite Banner with my man Mark has
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