"Epiffinite Banter"

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, yo, this is your boy Piff Penny and you
tuned into the Infinite Banner Show. Shouts out to the
kid man for real. DJ sound Wave. You already know
what time it is once you drop that heat, Fifth Penny.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
One Infinite Banter Podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Baby here it is another episode of the Infinite Banter Podcast.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
What is going on? My name is Mark Jollif aka
DJ Soundwave. Big up for checking out the show. Got
another one right here. Got two guests on this one,
same time. We've got Fifth Penny who's been on this show.
I'm looking at my fingers here, it's more than one hand.
It's like six or seven times. Is that how you

(01:07):
do counting? I got to ask my daughter when she comes
home from school, she's doing her kindergarten math, how do
I count how many times? My man Piff has been
on the show. Here, he's got a new album out
called Epiphany, and a producer of that album, get him.
Rizzy is also on the show. So you got two
guests first time forget them Rizzy looking forward to chopping
it up with him and Piffpenny, longtime friend of the show,

(01:28):
coming on both we'll talk about that new album Epiphany.
Go reach out to them, follow them on Instagram places
like that, and make sure you get that album. They're
exclusively putting it out there through themselves. It's not going
to be on all the platforms, like a lot of
music ends up being these days. You're not gonna find
it on Spotify and iTunes or however you think music

(01:48):
should be found. You got to reach out to them.
But as a bonus, I will play a song or
two within this episode here, so you know, you get
a taste of what they got for you. So stay
tuned and get them. Rizzy coming on the show talking
about the new album Epiphany. But in the last episode,
I got to do something really fun. Got to go
to my first convention of twenty twenty five. I missed

(02:10):
out on C tweet two because it was on my
birthday weekend and I was out of town in Seattle,
so I didn't get to go to that. But I
did get to go to Nightmare Weekend, which is part
of Galaxy con It's basically a horror convention. Got to
go to that and got a chance to interview on site,
which I like doing. You know, get to actually walk
up and ask somebody some questions and record it put
it on the podcast. Got to talk to Sandy Johnson,

(02:32):
who some of you know as Judith Myers from the
original nineteen seventy eight release of Halloween. So here's a
little clip from that episode and a clip from her
interview with me on site at Nightmare Weekend in Chicago
here on the Infinite Banter podcast Flashback.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
Yeah, I knew ahead of time, right, and I was
a playmate centerfold, so I'm also being in front of
the camera without clothing, so it wasn't about it very
professional set, so I never you know, it was fine.
It was a little scary because it was dark and upstairs, right,

(03:12):
and I was gonna be murdered, So there might have
been some apprehension on.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
That part, right.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Definitely go back and check out that episode if you've
not had a chance, really cool time talking with Sandy
Johnson and talking about her iconic role as Judith Myers.
You know, very short amount of time in the movie,
but all these years later we're still talking about it,
and it basically just kicks off that movie and you
can argue, and we could have this debate. Anybody wants
to have it with me, that Halloween, the original one,

(03:42):
If it's not the best horror flick, it's definitely in
the top three or four, top five. You know, everybody
has their own tastes. I'm more of a slasher guy,
so Halloween is very high for me. But if you're
more into ghosts or more into like my man real ones,
into like stuff like The Omen and The Exorcist, that
might be where you go. Or if you're more into
sharks eating people, maybe you think Jaws is the best

(04:04):
horror movie. It's even debatable if that's even a horror flick.
But there's all kinds of different versions of horror out there,
but it's hard to not, you know, put Halloween at
least regardless of which ones you're into in that top
two or three. Big shout out to Sandy Johnson. I
appreciate her coming on. Make sure you check her out
online Unicorn Sandy J on Instagram and her website unicornsandyj

(04:29):
dot com. So that's the last episode. Let's get into
this episode going forward here. I got the new desk
here that I just got recently. One of the birthday
presents I got was a new desk. I had the
same desk for man, like over twenty years and you
know it was looking kind of you know, it wasn't bad.
You know how it is like when you're a guy,

(04:49):
the guys out there listening, you know you you wear
like the same shoes forever, or you keep a desk forever,
wear the same pants, you know, to probably shore thrown
out years ago. Until the better half says, you know,
you could upgrade that. Why don't you get a new desk? Okay,
so you spend so much time there, you know, make
that look a little more decorative, you know what I mean.

(05:12):
So they got a new desk and it's nice.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
Man.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
It makes me feel more at home when I'm doing
this podcast. I got more stuff on the desk because
I have more room. It's a little more long, So
I'm definitely feeling the new desk. I'm sure those listening
can care less about the desk here, but it helps
me produce this episode that you're about to get into.
So not only are gonna talk to get them Rizzy
and Pifpenny, but stay tuned or I'm also gonna talk
about There's three things that I've seen that I want

(05:38):
to get into. One thing that's horrible, and I think
they need to stop making These a movie that I
saw that I had really no idea what it was
going to be about when I want to go see it,
and I love every minute of it. There's a quick
easter egg about it in the interview, so if you
stay tuned for the whole episode, you'll know what I'm
talking about there. And the third thing is a TV
show that basically, unlike the first thing I mentioned, which

(05:59):
is probably be ruining a franchise, this show is the
only thing keeping this franchise going. So I want to
not do reviews on them, but I will mention them
at the end of the episode, so stay tuned. And
I had a couple of things I forgot to mention
about Seattle. Save those for the end as well, but
stay tuned. Here we got Piffpenny on the show. We
gotta get them Rizy. You listen to the Infinite Banter podcast,

(06:19):
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(06:41):
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(07:24):
let's get into it. Piff Penny, get them Rizzy are
on the show. Talk them about the new album Epiphany.
But you know how it goes the show. It never
begins to the one and only D for Never Dirty,
m C for Mostly Clean DMC, Daryl McDaniels gets on.
He says these words right here and now it's official, Yo, Yo,
what's up?

Speaker 7 (07:39):
This is me DMC to K I and G the
greatest MC in HISTORYAD And right now you're listening to
Infinite Banter because we will Bantera on forever, because this
is the only place for all of youall to ever be.
I be infinite Banta.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
So before we talk to piff Penny and get him Risy,
let's play a track from that new album Epiphany. This
right here might be my favorite song on the album.
It's called Kidd and Compton. Definitely want to play this
as a West Coast feel, So get him Risy from California.
He's now in South Carolina. But you could hear that influence,
that Doctor Dre influence. And we talk about this song
in the interview. It's like it's a good idea to

(08:18):
hear this first. Then we start talking about it here
in the interview. You have an idea why we're talking
about it, and white fits. So here we go from
the new album Etpiphany, Pifth Penny and get them Rizzy.
This track right here is called Kidd and Compton. And
after this song here from both of them about this
album much much more. But here we go kidding Compton
from Fifth Penny and get them Risy here on the
Infinite Banter Podcast.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Let's go as a young man. I've been through a
lot West Coast, East coast piece of my life for you.

Speaker 8 (08:48):
Look, that kid's special. You really made it out of camp.
That pig pressure. My mom trying to weigh the options
my dad left us. She's cheating with Akrit Poppy man.
I call him Gilbert, I ain't want to call him
step Poppy and let him drive a lot of guns
and the heavy eyes. I was eight when I seen
car and getting high rel bugging to George, like the
gate on him, the crazy Haiti always keep the fucking

(09:10):
shank on him. New bikes switching with the mags on it.
Then when little Jean lost that bat, I put the
pegs on it. Get that icy cup had his drawing
on them styphones that one time I was mad because
she got at home. My first chuck Tellers came from
them food stamps. I just seen my mom sell an
eight ball. I think she's seen me looking. I would
ray Charles. I still called him what machine play, y'all. Look,

(09:33):
he's just a young kid. In the plaid shirt. When
his dad left his mom, he was man hurt. He
really couldn't focus on his class work. He was playing
organ Trail, had the pass where he's just the young
kid and the plaid shirt. When his dad left his mom,
he was man hurt. He really couldn't focus on his
class work. He was playing organ trail, had the pasts

(09:54):
word seen gay popper Willie on the asphalt.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
I better dollar. Shorty gave me what I am.

Speaker 8 (10:00):
He popped his tire. Now we had it on the
crash course thirteen when he ran into that raft. I
had a crush on his sister. She was fourteen.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
I tried to holler.

Speaker 8 (10:10):
She ain't give me no game, man. I told her
best friend, I'm a nold name. She was right on
my chest. I had no chain back that that's just
a little setback. I asked Brown, whar's chain?

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Let me get that?

Speaker 8 (10:23):
I got a little bitty on the steps Jack. He
had me to queue or so I went back on.
It's been a couple of years now.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
A house hot Gilbert. He was shaky. I got a
watch out living out in camp. There was a lot dick.

Speaker 8 (10:36):
Now I'm hitting switches in the drop top look. He's
just a young kid in the plaid shirt. When his
dad left his mom.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
He was man hurt.

Speaker 8 (10:45):
He really couldn't focus on his flash work. He was
playing organ Trail had the pass word. He's just a
young kid in the plaisd shirt when it's dad left
his mom.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
He was man hurt.

Speaker 8 (10:56):
He really couldn't focus on his flash work. He was
playing Uga Tree ahead the pass word.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
Yo yo Yo. This isn No Wall Rex and I'm
rocking with my man, DJ sound Wave for the infinite
band of podcast that need to tune in.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
You're tuned into the Infinite Banter podcast. I am DJ Soundwaving.
I'm really high to be joined by two guests who
are part of a new project called Epiphany. Producer Get
Them Rizzy and a frequent guest Pif Penny joined forces
to put this album together. Welcome to the show, Piff
Penny and Get Them Risy. What's up, guys, what's man Wave?

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Definite Banner y'all, y'all already know what time it is.
It's your boy fifth easy.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Yeah, man, this is a This is always a big
deal because it's one thing to have the artist on
or one thing to have the producer on. But when
you get both of you guys on, and I've done
this a few times, but not often, we're both entities
of a project is on at the same time. Man,
I get to really go behind the curtain and see
how this you know, how this is made. Man, talk about, yes, sir,

(12:02):
how you guys first linked up, Like how long has
this project been in the works and how long you
guys known each other.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I can talk about how long we've known each other,
and I'll let Rizzie talk about the actual how we
got putting this album together as far as like us
linked up and first and foremost, I want to thank
you for having us that way. Yeah again, thanks for
having us on to talk about this album. So, yeah,
this is my first album. I wanted to make an

(12:30):
album and just so happens that I met Rizzie. It's
been a while. We known each other for probably I
would say maybe three to four years now, and we
met on a podcast called The Junkies and it was.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Hosted by this guy. His name is Triph.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
He's from Atlanta, good guy, and he basically do like
reviews and stuff on hip hop. So we kind of
like joined, you know, joined the community like that. Yeah,
So we met each other on there and we just
kind of grew a relationship, you know, friendship beyond that.
You know, started talking to each other on Instagram and stuff,
and then you know, exchange numbers and then from there

(13:06):
it's just was like, you know, we just became friends.
And he's an awesome producer. He's heard a lot of
my stuff. I've heard a lot of his stuff. I
worked with some people that he's produced for. Shouts out
to all the people that he's introduced me to, and
you know, from there, like I told him, we've been
talking for a while and told him like, you know,

(13:28):
I've been making EPs for a while and I've never
actually dropped an actual album.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
So he was like, look, Pee, were you ready?

Speaker 1 (13:35):
You know what I'm saying, Like, Yo, I'd like to
make your first album for you and I and then
we can kind of go from there. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
Man, it was a because, uh, you know, like you said,
I listened to a lot of his stuff. Man, I
always thought he was a pret dope FC, you know
what I mean. First, so many different things from him,
from so many different producers. So you know, just me
and being me, you know, Shoot, I said, I wanted
to get in on the fum because, you know, you
I felt like I had something good I could bring

(14:03):
to them, you know what I mean. And then, uh,
first thing he ever did we did a single caross
shut the trap and it was a monster. So I
knew it right being in there, like, shoot, once we
work it, you know, it's gonna be a wrap. And
we didn't take too long on the project either, maybe
bought a good five.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Months there you go five.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
Months, you know, and uh, you know, just back and forth,
steady contact us, throwing each other ideas, you know. And
it's been a great experience.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Man.

Speaker 6 (14:31):
I couldn't uh, I couldn't ask what anythingbody it's been.
It's been a beautiful experience.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Man.

Speaker 6 (14:35):
But you know, I try to with all of my
projects get real in depth with the artists and and
you know, try and give them as much as they
need and uh, you know, try and do everything to
kind of fit around them, you know.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
And it sounds like you guys had a chemistry from
the jump, Like with that first song you guys are
talking about where you put it together, you could see
something was cooking right. You guys felt like there was
something there.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, I think for real, for real, Like to me,
I felt like we knew we was going to work
with each other after a certain amount of time we
was in this community on the Junkies just because of
what he was putting out in what I was putting out,
and then we just started to form a bond between
other artists on there, and we all actually met up
one year. He had a little little thing and we

(15:23):
met up one year and that was the first time
me and Rizzie met each other. And you know, the
chemistry was like, you know, it was authentic, you know
what I'm saying. And for a lot of them it was,
but yeah, for me and Rizzie was authentic to the
point where you know what I'm saying, Like I call
him my brother for real, you know what I'm saying.
Like I went and seen him at some time with
him and his daughter shouts out to London. You feel me. Yeah,

(15:48):
but yeah, man, and everything, you know, everything from there. Man,
it's just you know, it's been it's been a one.
Like you said, Man, working on this project is a one.
And most of my producers when we working on projects,
I mean, you know, I try to keep a good
open mind because a lot of my producers are like
from overseas, but with him being in the States and

(16:09):
him being an American, you know, the communication right there
already was easy. And then him understanding what I wanted
and me understanding what he was kind of looking for
on certain like different like vibes on the beat, you
know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, you know what I mean.
He actually helped me make this album a complete album
because you know, by different concepts I was giving them.

(16:30):
Sometimes they wasn't the best, sometimes they was, and he
would be like, I want you to do this more
than that and this more than that, and it just
kind of helped me. Mean, he build albums in the past.
This is my first album, so I learned a lot
from him too working on this album on how to
actually build a complete album, you know, So that was
a blessing too.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, it sounds like it's not just you know, from
Rizzie's point of view, he wasn't just somebody's making beats.
I mean, he's actually a real producer where you're actually
throwing ideas at each other, ideas concepts, you know, album concepts,
and that's got to be huge for an artist like yourself,
and I'm sure for Rizzy on the flip side, you know,
having an artists who's willing to work with a producer
to like, you know, craft something where it's not just

(17:12):
here's one hot song and here's a nice beat or whatever.
You guys are actually bouncing ideas off each other and
coming up with concepts and ideas.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
Oh absolutely, man, absolute, because to me, that's all where
the magic happens. Man, Because if I just throw your
beat and you just saying any old shit on it,
excuse go ahead, yeating any old ship on it, you
know what I mean, it's like, okay, putting together ship
and making it rhyme. You know that's that's not the
same as as telling the story and you know, giving

(17:40):
people something to feel. So I like to you know,
I like to keep everything like, you know, like classic,
because gentlemen, that's where we come from. They come from
from from from classic. We come from heat makers, you
know what I mean. Sure, you're talking about guys who
grew up in ears with busting rhymes and Snoop Dogg
and Mom Deep and you know the list goes on.

(18:02):
And now Jay like you know, just just storytellers and
it's like shoot, once you got a hard beat to
go along with those words. Man, listen, you make legendary stuff.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Right right you right, man, You're absolutely right on that,
like the way you put that, bro, the.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Proofs in the album for you know those listening, you know,
make sure you check it out. Epiphany and Rizzie, where
you from?

Speaker 6 (18:23):
Man?

Speaker 4 (18:23):
And I know Piff you're from North Carolina?

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Right, yeah, Baltimore. I'm from Baltimore, Maryland, but you know,
I mean that's my second home, North Carolina, Durham, Durham, Riley.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
Right, yeah, I'm originally from California, but you know, I've
been in South Carolina, man, for a long time. I've
been I've been here, shoot since I was a youngster.
You know, so I go back home back and forth
a lot. You know, I'm visiting my family. But yeah,
I'll say, man, shoot, South Carolina, but always originally California.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
There you go. And that's yeah, both of you guys.
You know, even though Baltimore or North Carolina not that
far apart of California and South Caliner, there's definitely you know,
a lot different you know, styles and scenes there. But
I'm sure you both bring those you know, those early
days influence to where you are now, and of course
where you're at, you know, currently, has a lot to
do with the sound that you guys are crafting.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
I would agree, yeah, I would agree. Rizzie definitely. His
producing skills to me is like when he told me
from Galli and I started listening to his stuff, I'm like, yeah,
I can definitely tell, you know by just a style production.
And I was blessed to get a dope beat West
Coast beat from him for this album. And man, I

(19:36):
put I can put Rizzy up there with the Doctor
Dre's and the Eric Sherman's because of what I heard.
You know what I'm saying there, You go, yeah I can,
I can. I mean just because of what I heard.
You know, everybody got their own taste of how they
hear stuff, but I mean it's undeniable when you hit

(19:56):
Doctor Dre or Eric Sherman produced, So it's it's the
same thing for Rizzy. I know when I hear something official,
I know it's Rizzy made that you feel me?

Speaker 4 (20:06):
So yeah, that distinct sound, right man, that has that
has to have something to do with Kidd and Compton. Right,
That's one of my favorite not only beats on here,
but favorite songs on the album is that California based
a little bit, you know, some influence in there.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Oh yeah, he put one of them things up on
that boy, Yo, I always want I mean, like so
like the the Dre Joint with Snoop and Dre that
beat you feel me. It's been my favorite beat for
like a long time. We should freestyle over that beat
all the time. And I always told myself, I say,
I want one of them beats on my album when
I make me an album one day, like still Drake, Yeah,

(20:43):
that's still one of my That's one of my top beasts.
That's still Drake man.

Speaker 6 (20:48):
Yeah, yeah, you feel me as soon as you hear it.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
That is classic, man, Like I love that beat. We
freestyled over that beat me and my friends probably a
million times. Bro, I'm telling you.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
And you you need to be in a car with
that song. That's like one of those songs you automatically
think about being in a ride and playing it really
loud with the windows down and you know, summer coming. Man,
that's that's when them all time classics. Man, you definitely
right on that.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
That song will never die. Yoh yes, man, I mean,
that's one of my favorite songs. Bro.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, yeah, I got blessed.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I got blessed to get me a beat that I
can consider that's very similar.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
It reminds me of that beat a lot.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
Man.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
I was like, this beat is crazy.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
Feel me like, yeah, that's my favorite beat on I
was definitely I wrote that down. I'm like, yep, this
beat right here, this is.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
The one I'm appreciate you pail, Yeah, no doubt, man.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
And there's another track that had to beat. Now I'm
older than you guys, I go back to the eighties.
So this track, The Business took me back to like
Houdini eight O waight sound you know they had that. Man,
I was, I don't know why, just kept thinking about
Whodini or something like I'm a Whole or something like that.
That old school that eighty eight you know, eighty seven,
eighty six era. And man, the Business is another track needs.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
To be banging too, Oh my god. But be back there.
I used to love one.

Speaker 6 (22:07):
I love yo.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
Oh my god, that that one five minutes of funk.
I go on and on about those dudes. I feel
like they don't get their due. But man, that track
reminded me of it. Yeah, no doubt about it. Talk
about the business, because you guys definitely gave that track
the business. That track is his heat.

Speaker 6 (22:23):
Well, no, I knew for my inner thing, you know,
because when I make a project, man, I don't want
nothing sounding the same. And then I always tell the Fellaws,
you know, cause you know fellas we men, you know,
we we we come from an era that's different than
the guys have that. You know, the guys I noticed
man now always talking about Deed.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
They always talking about Deed. Man.

Speaker 6 (22:48):
That shit bothers me. It's like, okay, you know we
quickly call them little punks and stuff now, but I'm like, yo,
we ain't showing him the way. We ain't talking about
no ladies and stuff. So anything I do, Yo, it's
gonna be a track on there. You gotta say something
about the ladies. Yeah, we quickly call the possible. We
ain't teaching them that neither. So it's like, Yo, it's

(23:10):
all fault.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
I never looked at it like that, But you're probably
into something there, man.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I feel you, bro. But yeah,
that that beat is definitely like it's definitely a party vibe.
You can play that at a wedding. You can play
it at a family reunion. I mean, you can play
that anywhere. I mean, that's a classic beat, you know, and.

Speaker 6 (23:30):
No samples in it. Right at the end with the
poetic justice you know, that's one from scratch.

Speaker 9 (23:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
I heard that. I was like, Oh, that's that's Lucky,
right was what was his name?

Speaker 1 (23:41):
In Justice to much character?

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Yeah? Yeah, I remember when I saw that movie. I
didn't I was like, what's Nani? I was like in
high school or something, So I had to It took
me a couple of watches of the movie to figure
out what was going on.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
But we got we got, we got four Eyes on it.
That's a friend of Rizzie's, the friend of him, and
he thought that that that would, you know, help help
with this album. And also, you know, I don't have
any features that you can consider like somebody. You know

(24:18):
what I'm saying, like kind of big and so you know,
I wanted to go big on this, and Rizzie went
big when he reached out to his boy, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
He definitely did his thing on him. I appreciate that.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
Well, man, I don't know if you know too much
about Four Eyes A dude is legendary and like, man,
let me tell you something, I don't care what you
give him, as long as you give him the concept.
And he fell on the beat.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
He gonna cook.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Every Yeah, I mean, I definitely felt it in that track.
And he's one of those that I want to hear
more from because it's the first time I heard him,
and I know there's gotta be a lot more that
I'm completely sleeping on, and I'm sure that he is, Yeah,
bringing that every time, and it's got to be great
to you know, a lot of the guests on here,
some of them, like you know, you've worked with before,
Piff and I know Rizzy probably as well. Like you know,

(25:05):
it seemed like it was a lot of a home
team feel like these are not people had to reach
out too far for right as far as the features go.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, you can say that definitely, Like majority of the
people in Atlanta, I think what Daz is up in
Philly and Ada? You know where she she in New York?
So yeah, yeah too in New York too. Busy, Yeah,
Busy is in New York and UNI where Union at
Union's in Georgia. She and Georgia, Okay, so yeah, most

(25:32):
of them are in Atlanta, so yeah, I mean, you know,
it was just pretty much personal people.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
We knew.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
You know what I'm saying. We both know Jay Scott,
We both know Izzy. You know what I'm saying, You
both know I Aida. He introduced me to I knew.
I met four US before he got on this track
in Atlanta a year ago at that party that the
guy Tripe. Yeah, so you know, like we kind of

(25:58):
all know each other, which is pretty cool. Yeah, man
Is he had a couple of times, so yeah, yeah,
so yeah, we pretty much know each other. And everybody
vibe was authentic, you know what I mean. Like it
wasn't like Yo, can you redo this part? Or hey, Aida,
can you do y'all? Everybody's tent back what they say,
and everything was perfect. And you know what, this album

(26:19):
helped me to get better, you know what I mean,
Because I mean like I'm I'm stepping with big contenders
like four Us, I Hada, Jay Scott to Illis, you
know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, I'm stepping with some
big some big boys and girls out here, you know
what I mean, And they keeping me, they keeping me sharped.
So it was a blessing man. You know what I mean.

(26:41):
I learned a lot from working on this album, and
it came out perfect, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
And my eyes was perfect, you.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Yeah, when you have you know, different artists like that
you're working with and you're all, you know, kind of
pushing each other a little bit, it just makes the
album project better. Everybody is coming with that same energy.
And you brought up i Ada, man, know you worked
with her in the pass this track, Petty Man, it
comes hard with those drums. Man, I hit that was
and then you know, I'm my old heads. Anytime there's

(27:07):
cuts on a song, I'm just there. You go. You
just you're in my lane. You know when I hear
the cuts on their shout out to Dad Jones.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, man for Miss Dash, Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Man, talk about Petty because I mean, like I said,
she and she comes with it on her verse two.
I mean, she's not playing around, but talk about that track.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, just what it is.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
It's Petty, you know, just being a little bit petty,
acting a little foolish and you know in my ways,
I mean penny Wise Junior. So you're not gonna get
a bunch of serious tracks. You're gonna get a lot
of fun, You're gonna get a lot of danger, You're
gonna get a lot of mischievous. So on this track,
we wanted to do petty you know what I'm saying, Like,
and I got my bag because you know what I mean, Like,

(27:50):
I felt like I needed to talk, that I needed
to have a talk with somebody real quick, and I hit,
I hit, I hate it so she can roll roll
around the mud with me. I told her, look, I'm
working on this album and I need you to roll
around the mother one man, I said. Rizzie got up back.
She was like all, I'm like all right. So yeah,
we went and got dirty on that.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Talk about that track, man, how dirty was for you
guys to do to make sure that track came out?

Speaker 6 (28:18):
The thing for me too, was, Man, I never I'm
gonna say I never did anything since I've been doing
projects with like a rock element. I was like, you
know what, that is one of the dopest elements to me.
I think back to like Walk This Way in the
ninety nine Problems. I'm like, yo, that they have guitar
up against some hip hop drums is always serious.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Bro, is it and when it's done right, Yeah, that's that.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
No idea, that's that no Id you know what.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
You're right. That do remind me of that no Id track.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
You're right.

Speaker 6 (28:51):
So it's like, Ben, I think about a class of
tracks like, man to myself, I would like to do
something like that, you know what I mean. So, and
it just to me like Kiti is like probably my
top three on the album Easy I told when they
said the verses back, I was like, bro, we got one.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Yeah yeah man, And you know, having that those rock elements,
you know, I feel like it's kind of it's been
done before, like you guys said, but it's been like
little bits here and there. I don't know if anybody's
really done it enough to where I feel like there's
more that could be be utilized there instead of just
doing you know, straight straight drums and stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Right.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
Man. It's like because you gotta think, man, rock and
roll and hip hop and jazz, man. I mean, those
are three of the dopest elements of music. Yeah, you know,
the biggest genres for sure. Man.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
You know, I just saw I don't know if you
guys saw the movie Centers yet, but I saw it
yesterday for the first time, and not to spoil anything
if yeah, okay, sounds like you see it, I'm trying
to spoil too much. But there's a scene when you
know they're they're playing in the in the juke joint,
and you just see all the elements of different Johns
was coming together and through the spirits and everything. And
what you're saying made me think of that scene because

(30:05):
there's a DJ and there's you know, someone dancing to
a different style of music, and there's like a guy
playing guitar, and there's the blues. All that is all connected.

Speaker 6 (30:14):
What I got from it though, it was showing what
was gonna happen in the future.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Right right, That's what I got from that too.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, and I saw that.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
Was just amazing. Now you've seen him go from him
doing the blues and then you know, you see the
guy kind of like in the seventies, got that Parliament funk. Yeah,
you got a day that you got the b boys
out there break dancing.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
I was like, Yo, this is ill.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
That's that wine is right there.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
Yeah, and it's cut to the scene where you know,
like nowadays, got the girls torking and stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
I was like, oh, they just go where the music when?
That was ill to me?

Speaker 6 (30:57):
Right?

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah it was, man, think it was supposed to be
incorporated though into this movie the way they wanted to
show how the music was growing too, and then generations
you feel me? Yeah, so yeah, I mean it was
dope movie, man, Me and my wife and Georgia's Last. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
I liked it a lot, man, And you know, it
kind of reminds me of this album too, because I
one of my notes is that you guys, with this album,
you've got little bits of soul in there. You mentioned
rock early, a lot of throwback drums, you got movie samples.
I heard of mister t sample in there, you know,
because I'm a Rocky head, so I heard that immediately. Man,
talk about how you guys, yeah that's Rocky is a joint.

Speaker 6 (31:36):
Man.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
I feel like a lot of these movies now are
just they're trying to be like Rocky, Like let's put
a different sport with a underdog.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
But dude, the one nobody can be like Rocky. That's
my guy.

Speaker 6 (31:47):
Those first four Rocky movie, those first four, I'm sorry,
my favorite.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
There you go, man, Yeah, the.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
First four or great. I even liked the one. The
last one they did Rocky Bell Bowl where he comes
back and it's getting too old, but they still yeah
the real boxer, like he actually fought an actual boxer
in that one. And and it kind of was cool
how they did it. They kind of modernizecause they were
trying to show how like someone from the past can

(32:17):
fight somebody from the current era. Yeah, and you know,
and bring a full circle, you know, Michael B. Jordan's
and the Creed movies and it all, it all connected,
the with Centers so and Ryan Coogler and everything.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Michael relaxed. Boy, he ain't never gonna take my Man spot. No,
he can't take Rocky Spot.

Speaker 6 (32:37):
But movies, I gotta give it to Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Michael doing this thing, but he relaxed. He ain't messing
with my ma.

Speaker 6 (32:48):
Of course, because you know, Flop Slop Flop made it.
You know what I mean, You can never beat the
original recipe. But I ain't gonna lie. You know that
Creed to when he fought drogos Son.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, yeah, he yo, that's it. It was nuts.

Speaker 6 (33:02):
Man.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
I don't even think I could even stand in the
ring with sure, you hear me? Look great, strap got
me a little blade on me or something. His arms
looked like big hamhocks.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
Dude likes whore to ayre you doing that?

Speaker 1 (33:25):
You got y'all out with water holeses or something?

Speaker 4 (33:29):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Man.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
I wanted to bring up another track on here before
I even played it. I just saw the title said coffee,
and I'm a coffee drinker, but I I've been doing
mushroom coffee because trying to keep the sugar out. But man,
playing that song, maybe you want to stop it and
go make some or go to Starbucks or whatever.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Uh, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
Start your day before you murder these mcs. Get yourself
some coffee so you're ready to go. Talk about, you know,
just doing this track. And I saw you guys had
a little promo on there too, you know, talk about
that song and the idea and the concept behind it.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
What's up, rappers know where you see me? I ain't
capting me, that's all you pretty much. It's just like
you said, it's to wake them up, Fami. I wish
I could have used the folders in yeah, cause Femi,
I would have put that out there first and then
dropped the video. But yeah, that was to wake them up.
Call you know, what I mean, Like, it's a lie

(34:28):
of rappers out here talking greasy, you know what I mean.
I don't take this lightly, and I'm not doing this
for fun. I'm doing this to make some money off
of it. I'm doing this for people who really like
my music. And when I hear people talking greasy, sometimes
you gotta wake them up, so you gotta pull them
a nice cup of coffee.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Fam Man, I want to hear a new Folders commercial
with you doing the jingle that's what's up?

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, I got you, shorty, Let's get on it. He
hit me up folds of he got the sleeves and
everything folding.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
At least Hills Brothers go way back. You get to
get the old school coffee. You still make that ship
Hills Brothers or whatever.

Speaker 6 (35:12):
It was, the other one ship Maxwell House that Well, yeah,
there you go.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Maxwell been around for a minute. My grandmother, Yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
My mom used to drink a little chopped full of
nuts or something like that, chop full of man.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
One thing I remember about those cans is like that's
where the oil would end up. Eventually, you know, when
mom would make some greasy food, she'd save that oil
for the next time. It being the it being the
folgers can.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Oh, yeah, that's the sad spot for real. Yeah, you
got to be careful fits Grease boy. Yeah you know
you know you took me back when you said that
people stash stuff in there. Yep, my aunt, my grandmother.
If you see a fox's joint sitting up in their closet,

(36:10):
you know it's got some goodies in it.

Speaker 6 (36:11):
You feel. Ain't no coffee man, Man, there was nothing
in the fall, just camp. But like you said, Grease
or that was like the coin stash.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Yeah, you cut a slit in that little plastic thing
and you could drop coins in there. Remember, Yeah, that's
a bank.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
That was the piggy bags. When mom wasn't going out
buying ship, you better stash it in that cam.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yeah, if you want a piggy bank there. It is.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Just had no idea they were. They weren't making coffee
for people, they were making containers. We didn't care about
the coffee.

Speaker 6 (36:48):
They was in the stash business.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, that's what they're saying.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Like, man, Piff, you you were just singing a minute ago.
So I got to bring this up and really got
some of your reaction when you heard Piff singing. You
song on Would You? How was that?

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Man?

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Were you feeling like kind of hesitant or you like,
let me go in, Let me give my Luther Vandrol sign,
let me give my Jeffrey Osborn. I'm gonna start singing
on this track.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, yeah, I had to tap into my Maxwell spirit
here you go. I had to tap in. But nah,
I've been singing, man, I've been singing when I was young.
I actually started off singing. And you know it's always
been something in me, you know what I mean, my
daughter sing what my oldest daughter do. Yeah, man, it's
in my blood. I love singing, actually, you know what
I mean. But it's just like as I got older,

(37:31):
it just was one of those things where I was like,
you know, like my voice changing and I'm really like
a man, man kind of man. Not to say like
these dudes are not, but some of them soft though
for but I just feel like I'm just like, you know,
I'm a street kind dude slash family man. Because I
grew up. I had to raise myself from like fourteen

(37:53):
on up, so you know what I mean, I had
to I ain't had a food fed to me when
I was young. The spoon and all that I ain't
had it, so I just kind of look at it like, man,
I came from where I came from, and I feel
like a manly man, you know what I'm saying. Like,
And it's like I said, it's a lot of man
men that sing like Tank. I respect him.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
He one of my favorite sings.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Usher brought that style back then in the nineties, Like
he looked like a dude who would be ryman, but
he was greating the vocals.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah, you know, like you ain't about to see me
like pull A Drake or Chris Brown. You ain't about
to see me start singing and then going to a
verse and stuff like nah, you know what I mean?
But yeah, I thought that was pretty cool, man like
for real, for I think that might be my favorite
song on the album. And it's not just because of
the hook. It's because of the beat. It's something about

(38:40):
that beat man. It's something about how me and is
he freaked it together in our own way. We both
came in with a jay z verse, Like first four
bars was like a jay z or the first two
bars was like a jay Z ball guy.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
He did a Biggie ball.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
I did a jay Z boss, Like how like people
gotta catch that, you know what I mean. Like, we
really put that song together perfectly, man, and it's beautiful. Bro,
I like it. I think that's my white favorite song.
They do it like it a lot, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
So like, well, that's a track the ladies have to
approve of writing. And Rizzie could speak on him singing
on the track. What was your initial thoughts and you're thinking,
all right, he's gonna get busy on this one in
a different way.

Speaker 6 (39:20):
Yeah, you know, just being his homeboy. You know, I
messed with him. I called him, uh, I called him
t boat pricing.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Should there it is.

Speaker 6 (39:31):
You're doing a lot of the hardcore record But like
I say, anybody I work with, you have to make
tracks for the ladies, man, And I think we made
three on this one.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, it was, it was. It was dope, you know.

Speaker 6 (39:45):
Like shoot, My thing is, man, if you want to
make a great album, you got to have plavors. It's
gotta be like basket robbers. You gotta have something for everybody.
Got something for the gangster or something for the ladies,
something for the nerds. You gotta have something for everybody.
If you want to make something legendary bro right. I
had no call with of course, just being you know

(40:05):
how you dot your homies gonna rag you about a
little where you do a little different stuff. But it's
all love, you know what I mean? That was that
was the initial reaction to me and him. We do
that to each other all the time. I mean, shot,
it's you know, we stay cracking on each other, you
know what I mean it.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Rizzy ain't never heard none of my songs I've sung
going because that was stuff I did a long time ago.
But I know when he heard that, he knew I
was I'm about my money though, you know what I mean, Yeah,
I'm about my bread on that song you feel me.
I feel like I rule the world when that song
come on, yo, because it feels like it just feels

(40:41):
so comfortable. It feels like it wasn't Russ and we
both was comfortable on the beat. The beat was so pretty.
I'm like, Yo, this was a dope concept and it
wasn't like it was. It was like, you know, it
felt good. It felt authentic because I used to sing,
you know what I mean, so like you know what
I mean. It wasn't like, oh man, let me try

(41:02):
to make myself do this knowing that I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Like, I was like enjoying it a lot.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Bro. You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
We're here with Piff Penny Bryson and get them Rizzy
talking about let's go, let's go.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
All right, Bro, I got you sure I got there.
It is Penny, it is. Look. My deacon the other
day called me y Penny. I was like, yo, he
had me dying. I say, that's an album cover right there,

(41:39):
pf chance there is cf Penny. I said, I like that.
Say you're listening to my music. Deacon. He's like, boy,
you need to be sanctified. I said, yes, sir, But
you know it's all good man. It's a gift he
gave me. Man, God gave me this gift. A lot
of people say, I'm good with it. So I'm going
to keep moving, you know what I mean. But if

(42:01):
you put him first, I put him first. And everything
I do, man all the time, can make nothing happen.

Speaker 6 (42:06):
Whatever.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
There it is, man, And you know, bro, getting back
to the like the soul feel you know that track
free You didn't have me thinking about Mary Jay because
I'm like, okay, it sounds like they're reworking Love No
Limit because I had to like, I'm like, mind, this
sounds familiar. Wait a minute, I think they're reworking it here.
And that track is another one that stood out.

Speaker 6 (42:24):
Yeah, I agree with yo Jay Scott Is.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
He's phenomenal man.

Speaker 6 (42:29):
That's like for me. He's like like like you know
that cool older brother, you know what I mean? And
he's very talented man. And uh when he's saying that hook,
I was just like, wow, you know, I knew kind
of what he what the origin one, like you said,
that's the.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Mary J Love No Limit, but.

Speaker 6 (42:47):
The way he flipped it, yeah, and then he came
back with the verse you know, and that shoot you know,
Pith was already on there cooking, so I was like, man,
this was I was an amazing thing. I man. Piff
had a debate about the song for minute because the
song had some heavy bass on it right at first,
and then I you know.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
MANI we discussed.

Speaker 6 (43:05):
I was like, yo, key man, we just take the
bass off and make it sound clean. So of course
we played with it and we heard it like with
the clean sound. He was like, yeah, that's it, bro.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Yeah, he's pretty much on point, bro. And shouts out
to Jay Scott because he had lyrisist. I mean, I
used to listen to lyricsis lambe that's I think to me,
that's one of the most well respected platforms I grew up.
You feel me when it came to like people who
spit bars, you feel me so like like he wanted

(43:36):
them one and then I feel actually privileged to have
him a part of this project as well.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yo, that boy is like yo, he on point, Yo,
he at MC.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
You feel me like he on point.

Speaker 6 (43:47):
You don't know, like his production game is banging too,
Like shoot, he wanted them all around and he'll sing
on you like like yo, yeah he's bad.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah he complimented that song heavy with with me on
the man. But it felt it felt pure and genuine,
you know what I'm saying. Like, when I heard that verse,
I was like, yo, because the hook already heard the
hook seeming when I was writing to it, because I
had to have like a concept and it was perfect.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
But man, that verse came it was beautiful.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Man, seeing I was like, man, this is gonna be
another one. I was actually just listening listening to that earlier. Man,
that sounds beautiful.

Speaker 6 (44:26):
Oh yeah, And.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
It's a reflection I think what you guys said earlier
about the album, like there's different styles on here, Like
there's stuff for boombab heads like myself, and if you
want something for not not necessarily just ladies, but I
mean just something that's got a little bit of a
different feel and like a soulful feel to it. There's
songs like that. So I feel like you guys went
out of your way or maybe just kind of happened
organically to make a well crafted album that, like you said,

(44:47):
with the elements of a little bit of something for
everybody on it, right.

Speaker 6 (44:52):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, nothing more boring than you know,
each track time, you know, just a little bit different
from the last.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
It's like boring, you know what I mean? This same
is track three. You know.

Speaker 6 (45:05):
It's like, man, listen, I need every last song to
sound different, a different story and.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
At the same time work with each other, right, because
you are transitioning from songs, so when you're doing an album,
you do want them to kind of flow together. I
feel like that's the trick, and I think you guys
definitely accomplished that.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, everything was organic tho. And you know,
some songs on it. It was like personal, like man,
a man's man's pain.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
Yea man, you're reading my notes, so that says real
man's pain. Personal, that's what I wrote. Like that had
to be real personal for you.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Yeah, yeah, personal joints, you know what I mean. Talking
about me and my son. I don't really have a
relationship with him, but I know God working on that,
you know what I mean. So I put that in
his hands. But yeah, you know what I mean. I
caught up with him one day and had a great time,
So I kind of wanted to talk about that, you
know what I mean, Good things in life, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
So yeah, that was personal, man.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
The kid and Compton was just a little bit of
my life, you know what I'm saying that I wanted
to share with people, let them know. Like you know
what I'm saying. I've been on the East and West Coast,
mostly on the East, but you know what I mean,
Like I got some roots over there in the West,
you know what I mean. So yeah, it's it was
beautiful man, to be able to put some of my

(46:23):
personal life onto our record, you know what I mean. Like, Yeah,
I normally don't do that, you know what I'm saying.
Normally just kind of like the you know what I mean,
just grab some concepts or some ideas and and just
run with it. But this one really had me thinking,
you know what I'm saying. It wasn't really hard writing
them because I know, I know how I feel and

(46:43):
I know how my thoughts are. But it was hard
just rethinking, you know what I'm saying, tough times with
certain people or certain things. You know, you know how
you don't want to think about tough times, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 4 (46:55):
But sometimes that makes good music, too, right, And it's
your point, that personal stuff out there, and you know,
maybe maybe you might feel like it's given away too much,
but there's probably somebody listening who can relate to what's
going on in the track, and you know, for all
you know, it's helped somebody else, you know, get over
something or maybe rethink how they're doing things. So that's
I mean, that's that's a good thing about putting that
personal touch on the track. And man, the title is

(47:18):
who gets credit for that epiphany? That's that's clever as shit. Man,
I got to give it to you guys on that man.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
You could talk about that man shouts out to get
him risy man, because that was all him, you know
what I'm saying, Like, I was just blessed that when
it came to me, I was like, Yo, that's it,
you know what I'm saying. Like, it wasn't like I
had to think about it twice. So yeah, I'm gonna
hand it over to my man though, for real.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
But yeah, I appreciate you Rizzy.

Speaker 6 (47:42):
Oh yeah, no doubt bro. You don't already know what
it is for me, my man, it was just like,
you know, you know, everything to me that's great or legendary,
it starts with a thought, you know what I mean,
and and epiphany. That's all it really is, is a
thought at the moment in time, you know. And so
the way I wanted to flip it though, it was okay,

(48:03):
I want to incorporate his name as well, you know
what I mean, Like, how can I how can I flip?
I was like, won't we spell it E P I
F F A N Y. I was like, oh that's ill,
and you know, and I proposed it to him. Man,
he was like, Yo, run it, you know what I mean?
And shoot, that's all that's all it really was, man,

(48:23):
Because it was like, you know, I don't like, I
don't want to you know, I don't want to give
nothing corny, you know what I mean. And some of
those one word titles be like you know, the most
awesome ship, like ill Madic and you know stuff like.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
That, right right, don't do that. You compare my joint
right though, right though? You right? Because this is my Illmatic,
you know what I mean. I feel like, Bro, I
feel like.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
It's only fair you compared them to Doctor Dre's and
compare you to Illmatic.

Speaker 6 (48:53):
So there you go, you know, just for me, it's
just like, you know, I trying to try and got
to be a one trick pony, you know what I mean.
And the Fellaw's already done. Anybody I worked with it,
tell you, man, I have no problem with helping you
come up with concepts, ideas, art work, any of that.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Bro. A few things y'all don't know about getting Risy.
He not only is a producer, but he visualized your
project before y'all even and they'll probably be.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Halfway done before y'all even start on it.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
And he had the album cover done before we even
started on the first.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
That's my next question. How about the album cover. So
that's you did that nice?

Speaker 6 (49:32):
Yes, Yes, sir, I got a great artist by the
name of John Ward. Shout out to John Ward, the
great man. Y'all check him out.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
He's he's, he's uh, he's deadly man.

Speaker 6 (49:42):
He's done all of my album covers for all of
my artwork except for the project I did with the
Mussolini But yeah, he uh, he's he's awesome man. He's
he's a great guy. And like I said, he don't
break you back on on the on the charger. You know,
since he was a kid. You know, I remember when
he was at his mom house when I was in

(50:04):
high school. You know, he's like four or five years old,
jumping on the couch.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
He jumped off the couch though for this epiphany. Yeah,
that's one of the reasons why too. Like when he
told me, Rizzi was like, Yo, I'm gonna get my
boy who do my covers to do the cover.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
If you think about that.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
And again to me, I was just sitting here thinking,
like I already know what he already got and I
know that he, like Rizzi, has been the one to
get his album covers done for his projects and all
them joints is like original, and so I was like, yeah, yo,
let's go, you know what i mean. Like he was like,
all right, this is what is going to cost. You

(50:45):
know what I mean, Like boone boom bone. You know
what I'm saying, Like we went half on everything, Like
this collectively is ours. You know what I'm saying. We
made sure all the artists is good. You know what
I mean? Yeah, you know what I mean, Like we
did this, man, and you know what I'm saying, We
don't got no problems financially be selling CDs.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Shouts out to everybody cop of CDs and under pads
all that. Bro, it's been a really good blessing. We
went to the independent route and this is my first
time and it's his first time, you.

Speaker 6 (51:17):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Yeah, yeah, definitely speak on that all the fans.

Speaker 6 (51:21):
Man. Shout out to all the fans and and you know,
all the homies and all the artists. Man, shout out
everybody that's really gotten into the project. Man, because it's
been well received. Man, this is to me my biggest
project monetarily.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
There you go speak on that because it's not on
like YouTube and band camp. Right, this is strictly you know,
you've got to find how can people find it first
of all, and then that there's really one avenue, right,
it's not it's not the usual ways of hearing it, right.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
I mean, if you following us on any social media,
you're going to know how to get it. But for
like people that's on your platform listening to this, the
only way to get it is you got to go
follow us on Instagram. I'm gonna let him, I'm gonna
let Rizzie give him, give y'all his information. But look,
my information is Instagram me at fifth penny. You can

(52:09):
hit me on the d MS or you can hit
me by email, and that's fifth penny at Yahoo. And
what we do is we can sell it. We can
sell it, sell you a CD for ten dollars, or
we can do the twenty dollars package bundle and both
of them got shipping on them as well.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
So yeah, for the bundle package, you.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Get the sticker coffee sleeve and you get another couple
couple items as well, and you get the CD fanly
so like, and we're doing a ten dollars m P three, like,
we'll send you the album cover the back end all
tracks for ten dollars. We'll just eat email you the
tracks if you want them that way, you know what
I mean, Yes, sir man, Yeah, and Rizzie, He'll let

(52:50):
y'all know how to get in contact with him. But
it's it's easy.

Speaker 6 (52:53):
Yeah, yeah, man with me, I do everything through Instagram. Man,
just get him underscore Rizzi three four five on Instagram. Man,
anything you need, whether it be a CD bundle pack
or m P three of the album, you know, get
get right at me and my ds man. I'm never
hard five.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
There you go, There you go, and pifth pain. I
remember a few years ago you had that Sativa those
packets of uh you know that's sticky that you're sending out.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Oh yeah yeah, everybody everybody that bought it CD had
got yeah one of them Sativa bundle the package. Yeah yeah,
you already know. Man, I'm always looking for a way to,
you know what I'm saying, showcase my music when I dropped,
you know what i mean. You know you know that
I've been like that for a long time, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 4 (53:39):
Yeah, kind of.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
It's just you know, we took a different avenue because
I'm working with somebody different and this is the first time,
like Frizzy asked me. He was like, bro, you want
to try to do this independence since it's your first album.
And I'm like, yeah, let's do it. You know what
I mean, what is it? How is it gonna hurt me?
It's not.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
I mean actually, after we.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Started talking about it, he thought about the benefit fits,
you know, and outweigh the negatives, you know, the streaming
and stuff, because we can always put this on streaming
when we're ready. But we're like, no, let's see, let's
spend a couple of hours and see what we can do.
And we are doing phenomenon. That's all I gotta say.
We disclose financials, but we are doing phenomena.

Speaker 6 (54:21):
I'm telling you, like this, it might be time to
get another bundle because I'm down to like, shoot, maybe
sixteen CDs left.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Wow, there you go, y'all, Rizzy, y'all, y'all heard them.
I'm ready to re up. Let's go. You feel me,
Let's go get out there. We're doing our thing and
we're just blessed in an independent route. We're making way
more money than we ever made on our streaming. You
feel like we can sell two CDs and make more

(54:48):
than than everybody else's been streaming for the whole year.

Speaker 6 (54:53):
Just to add on to that sad way, it's like
the way I told Pi Bahma, and I stand by this, man,
I'd rather have fifty loyal fans that really believe in
your talent and show you they do that, then ten
thousand that I listened to you for free, because I
feel like streaming is already robbing you.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
Yeah, you know that's true, man, And you know, like
you guys said, you made a good point. You could
put it out on streaming. Eventually, maybe when you feel
like you've gotten to a point where you've sold all
the CDs and sold all the merch and you've pushed
it as far as you can, then maybe you know
that other fan base I guess that isn't going to
give the money for the product, Well, then they can find.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
The people that's looking for a handout and the people
that don't want to pay for music. That's that I
call them the piracy community. See me, I used to
be a part of that. I used to go on
dad pit and download people join and you family, But
nah like for them. Now for the people that I
really like you know what I mean, I go buy
their music, and if I don't buy the music, I

(55:54):
try to support them somehow by merch or something, you.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
Know, And that's the way to do it. Going directly.
You guys already brought up you know, your emails and
your Instagram. I mean, it's always better to go directly
to the artists because you know that it's coming from them.
You're getting authentic products, and you know that they're getting
all the you know, the kickback and on the cost,
Whereas if you buy it off of some website or
go to Amazon, you know whatever. You know, they're probably

(56:19):
not getting it or they're not getting the full portion
of it. So, yeah, sluts, what you guys are doing.
Was that scary too? I mean, I mean, I guess
it is right because it's the first time you've done
something like this, pif I know, Ifrizzy's done this before.
But both of you guys, you know, go into this project.
You're like, man, we might be alienating some people, right.
Is that is that a thought at first? Or No?

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Nah, I'm gonna tell you, I don't even think so.

Speaker 6 (56:39):
Not because you got to think about it. We still
pushing everything that everybody we.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Rock with right, Just like I want to say what
my thing was.

Speaker 6 (56:49):
Okay, I wanted to feel like, you know, if I
got something you want, are you willing to pay for it?
Because like he said, and you guys said, up, I
want I paid for it, no problem, right because I think,
I think, especially if I know what's banging, I know
the artists, and I know it's artists, I don't have
no problem coping problem right right, And so it's like

(57:11):
my thing was, let me see how the people feel
about us as the artists.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Right and producers right right?

Speaker 2 (57:19):
You're right, yeah, I mean I feel the same way.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
I had no problem because I'm a businessman anyway, and
when I started my business, I had to dive in.
You feel me in faith, and it's just it was
the same way. It's just like you're not gonna get
nowhere if you don't dive in and have the faith
to believe in yourself and even your product. So I

(57:42):
already already believed in myself. I believed in Rizzy. I
see he believed in himself. So I'm like, yeah, it
was like, yo, we both know what we wanted and
we both knew that it wasn't gonna be cheap. But
at the same time, we knew we was going to
reap the benefits because we know what kind of music
he was about to get these people, you know, I mean,
so like, yeah, it was a no brainer for me, man,

(58:03):
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
That's the template I think going forward. You know, for
a lot of a lot of artists, especially independent ones
like yourselves, you know, reach reached the fans that that
are willing to do the extra work or just you know,
actually put a few dollars in your pocket to get
the product in.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Trying to break the bank. And yeah, right, were trying
to brank We ain't trying to break the bank and
get rich off our friends or nothing like that. But
we were just like, look, you know, they know what
we do, they know how long we've been doing this,
and they know that we cherish what we do.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
So we like, look, for the.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
First time, let's do this. And look, a lot of
our friends have shown this love you feel me and
some somesn't, but we know that they watching, and we
want to say hello to y'all want.

Speaker 6 (58:43):
To say hello. And like I said, it's all either
way because one thing about it, man, product this feel
and you know, a good product.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
He ain't got worried about it.

Speaker 6 (58:53):
I knew what we had was a product, and like
I said, man, first week, you know, I was blown
away because I didn't think you know what I mean,
I didn't really think that it was going to take
off the way it did. But it took off great.
You know, I knew it would take off in the
long run, but I didn't think off the rip, you know,
like boom. I was like, oh man, you know, well,

(59:15):
and then you know, like you said, I don't worry
about the fans who's missing out, you know, because too
like eventually we'll put it on streaming, so you'll definitely
get it, you know, for all the ones who really don't.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Want to shop with your right right. Yeah, yeah, because
we got saying that that that that we know that
you know, theyven got the means that had the money
to spend or you know what I mean. Everybody got
certain situations and circumstances, so y'all won't get it. But yeah,
let us get it first.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
We're gonna give it tea affordable but.

Speaker 6 (59:47):
You know, you got cancer here and charge of thirty
dollars just for a CD you know on the independent tent,
but oh ten dollars, bro ten dollars. And then if
you want a bundle pack that ain't but twenty you
get way more than music. You get music, you're getting
a little goodies, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
And the bundles had to also get a digital coffee, right,
you know, we're gonna give you more bang for your bucks.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
So everybody listening, go in your folders, cans, reach inside,
look for that ten twenty dollars and change or whatever
you got in there. Get yourself epiphany, get them rizy
in fiftenny you know you know you got money in
that Hills Brothers can or whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:00:26):
Go right, talk to him, don't beat you, treat yourself there.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
It is a man. There should be a shirt there.
It is because if you can afford that coffee, you know,
you can definitely afford a CD. I mean it's the
same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Same if you shot in that Starbucks, you need to
pick up a CD for real. Tell you something, week
come from the era of hard copies. Right.

Speaker 6 (01:00:53):
What I'm trying to do is set a trend anyway,
because I want to get get people back to that because.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
You know what if that grid go down for your music, right,
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm gonna plug up my vinyl. Oh.
By the way, we dropped our vinyls today. Yeah yeah,
we got vinyls to the project, saying wave.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
There is Man, you haven't copy of it yet. Have
you seen it? If you hold in your hands, how
does it look?

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
Its beautiful? She is beautiful, man, it's my you know,
it's my first one, So you know I was hyped
man once he sent it off, Man, and I opened that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
That was like a kid on Christmas.

Speaker 6 (01:01:29):
I ain't gonna lie to you, bro, work you know,
in front of me and on a vinyl on wax.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Yeah, she is beautiful, nothing like that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
There's nothing like it, man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
I got I got love for vinyls, man, and this
is my second red vinyl, but it's a different red.
But man, she is gorgeous. Y'all. Y'all need to come
get one of these. I'm telling you.

Speaker 6 (01:01:52):
Yeah, sure, man. The aesthetics is popping and you already
know the music you know, and the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
One you know. I'm saying, like the record where I
get my records from, They all the same records you
buyd from, like Beyonce, all the same person make these records, so.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
The quality is right there, quality a.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
One resistant yeah all that you know what I mean?
So like yeah, but yeah, man, I mean the grid
go down. I got a generator. I'm gonna be y'all
gonna hear me in my grush playing that playing at Epiphany.
You feel me there it is, Yeah, gonna be playing
petty because I'm gonna be out there acting real pay.

Speaker 6 (01:02:31):
People gotta tak man. We rely on technology so much,
it's gonna be our downfall.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:02:38):
Like I said, I come from the simplitic as you know.
We all remember the nineties very well.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:02:44):
I remember getting up in the morning with my brother
on on a Wednesday and Thursday for new drop on
the Sam Goodie.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
Man that Man Coconut.

Speaker 6 (01:02:55):
Yeah, Man, that that was an event, bro, Like you know, frankly,
I'll never forget what what wasn't man Mob Beat Murdered
music came out. I remember man standing in a line
with my brother to get that joinin Oyeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
And then and even when they do like in stores
and stuff too, it's even special. I remember I went
to UH in Chicago here. I think it was Crow's Nest.
Maybe it was coconuts. One of the common was there
signing like water for chocolate, and I was just like
so hype and the album was so different than what
he'd done before, and just to see him and just like, man,
I can't wait to play this on the discmand this
is like two thousand and one or something. Just bugging

(01:03:32):
out buying a CD and standing in line. You're right,
it's an event.

Speaker 6 (01:03:36):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
It was a big deal and it still can be.
But yeah, man, it's it's huge. It's huge to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Yeah, everybody the air we grew up in, though, you
know what I mean, Like when you're talking to like
standing in lines to get something, you don't have that
no more because you can order it now online and
just be like boom. But you know that's why I
like to go to shows and yeah, you know what
I'm saying, different places and see different people that I like,
because I like really showing up for the music and

(01:04:03):
for the merch. Yeah, because a lot of people don't
have the merch, and the people that do, I be
so excited, yo, because it's not only that I want
to support you. I like to wear people merch, you
know what I mean? And I like the showcase people merch,
you know what I mean. I like the I'm a collector.
That's another thing. I'm a collector too, So I got
a lot of different people stuff, and half of them

(01:04:24):
probably don't even know I got their music, you know
what I mean? But you know, I do my thing
on the side.

Speaker 6 (01:04:29):
I support a lot of people, bro and people got
to know that music is not just the only art.
You gotta think when you got a dope album cover, man,
that's like having a Picasso it is, yes, it is, yeah,
absolutely right, favorite all time covers.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Man, it is fucking at Aliens, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
Man. Not a great cover. But I recently bought action
figures based off the at Aliens album from Reaction. I
don't if you guys know about them at super seven
dot com. They make all kinds of figures, but they
actually sponsored this podcast. They have an outcast set based
off of eighty Aliens and I bought it because it's
a comic book. Shit, you know what I mean. It's
like straight out yeah yeah, and I had to have

(01:05:15):
it in my life and you know, waste forty dollars,
but whatever, it's fine.

Speaker 6 (01:05:20):
Collect you collected. Yeah, they listen. Money is made to
be spent. I'm telling you, man, I was so in
love with that that album cover when I was a kid.
My very first album, which is called Damage, it's kind
of based off of that. If you ever check out
the artwork on that, you'd be like, yo, he loved atl.
He was sure.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
Yeah, man, how about you, Penny, you got a favorite
old school or classic album cover. I mean, there's so
many I could think of that it would take me
the whole show to do them all.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
But I like the Woo I'll say, the first six change. Yeah, yeah,
I was gonna get that thirty six Chambers tattooed on me, yo,
Like that was one of my face faite album covers.
And then that that that little Kim joint you feel
me like that boy stopped playing.

Speaker 6 (01:06:12):
I get that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
I was gonna get that tattooed on me too, But yeah,
that was like the dumbest thought I ever thought about. Brian.
I'm sad I didn't do that.

Speaker 6 (01:06:21):
I was young too, though you know I was, but.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Yo, I was really going through it. One day, I
was at this tattoo party, bro, and Yo, she was like,
it's gonna take two, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Like sessions and I was like, nah, if.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
You can't do it, and one, I'm good it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Was it was meant not to that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (01:06:42):
Then, you know, just like from a producer standpoint man,
especially cats chopping records man, you always go for the
divina with the crazy artworkers. That's the worm he hap.

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
Yeah, yeah, right right, because if you don't know what
the music sounds like, the album cover might give you
an idea and what's what's in store? And you know,
I'm a big comic book cats. It's the same thing.
You to cover the comic book hats to be dope.
The insight could be great, but if the cover is whack,
I'm not gonna buy it. So that's that's the first
selling is the is the cover. The cover is what
gets you to the point where you're pulling your wallet out.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
And you know that was the main thing too for us,
Like you know, like when he showed me that cover,
I mean, you know, that was one of the feelings
I had. I'm like, Yo, this is definitely a sellable cover.

Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
You know what i mean.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
Oh yeah, So I was like Yo, his artist like
was amazing. He just gave him the concept and Yo
ran with it like bang, he got off of the
bed with that one or the porch, shall we say, with.

Speaker 6 (01:07:41):
That one thing? Man, he always do though, Like I said,
he's just he's an amazing young man.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Man. I hope he uh hope with oh yeah, yeah
he will will man stuff like this.

Speaker 6 (01:07:55):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
Yeah, keep everybody, make sure you follow. You can shout
him out as well. If he's got an Instagram page,
you know, and let people know where they can follow
you guys. I'll shout out a tri clal quest Midnight Marauders.
I think that might be one of my favorite covers
with all the different faces of hip hop, like history
almost right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Yo, that's crazy, Yeah, memories right there.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
Yeah, yeah, Tribe had some good colors. Yeah, they always
had the right that that color scheme and and that
that silhouette of a of a woman, you know, like
on Low End Theory and in Midnight. Yeah, they always
had that and it and it continued every album, so
you'd always see that figure on there and uh yeah,
they definitely did their thing and that and the covers
and of course the music was beyond the covers sometimes too.

(01:08:40):
But man, let everybody know you know where they can
follow you, guys. Get in touch with you. Get this album,
get it in their hands and anything else you guys
want to promote, definitely go for it.

Speaker 6 (01:08:50):
Oh yeah for me, Man, the best way that they
ever get in contact with me is through Instagram. Man,
Like I said, get them Underscore, Rizzy nine, three.

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
Four or five go what about you?

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Word? Yeah, Fifth Penny get at me if you can
type fifth Penny on Instagram, fifth Penny on or fifth
Penny wise Junior on Facebook, and you can find me
on Google just typing fifth Penny or fifth Penny wise Junior.
Go find me, get in contact with me. Come get
one of these albums. You just got the vinyl we
released today and they and they're only twenty five of them,

(01:09:23):
so they're gonna go pretty fast. We already know they're
gonna go fast. I actually got one inquiry earlier. Thank
you Jesus, be about to get rid of these. You
feel me about to get rid of these? But high
lad Us sound Wave. We appreciate you, brother, Nothing Banner Podcast.
We appreciate your offen having us Man. I appreciate it

(01:09:43):
very very prevable.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Yeah, I appreciate both of you guys coming through Man
and and fifth Penny. I gotta joke a little bit
here about Instagram because we days are doing this interview
because I got hacked on there and you hit me
up that day like yo, man, somebody messed with your shit.
Something's wrong with you. And that turned into a man,
come on the podcast. So there it is. Something good came.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Out of it. It's funny, y'all. Both both for y'all
are some funny guys. I tell you it's good that
had good people around me. Man, DJ sound Wave, I
just want to do this for you. Look, infinite band
of podcast. Y'all tapped into the livest podcast out there

(01:10:25):
in Chicago. Make sure y'all tap in with my man
sound Wave, make sure y'all shout them out, make sure
y'all hit this page up, make sure y'all do everything
they get his stuff out there. He's a good dude.
I've been knowing him for a while and get him Risy.
I appreciate you, bro, you know what I mean. We
did that. We did this.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
Gee there it is free promo. Got that for free
right there. I appreciate you. Pift, Penny Sloop, get them
Rizzy sure man, honor meeting you as well. Man and
you guys definitely put out a real classic here. So
everybody listening, make sure you find these two guys, get
in touch with them. Cop the merch, cop the album,
the CD, whatever, get the m P three however you

(01:11:05):
want to do it, and just big salute to both
you guys are coming through in the podcast and spending
some time out here. Really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Yeah man, thanks for having us, bro, I really appreciate you,
you know what I mean, As a as a podcast guy,
you do a really good job. But for real, man,
it's just like a normal friend because we talk, you know,
outside of this. You're a good dude.

Speaker 6 (01:11:27):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
Appreciate you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
I wish you and your family the best related birthday
to you, brother, appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
Thanks man, Thank thanks for both of you guys for
saying that. And uh and now I need some folders
because I'm getting to that middle of the daytime where
that old man It is kicking in so.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
I can dig it. Boy, hey, put an extra shot
of espresso in everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
Yeah man, Man, everybody listening makes you go check out
Epiphany from Fifth Penny and get them Risy go copy
it right now. Don't sleep man, Big up to you guys,
appreciate all the kind words and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Salute you both, Oh for sure, bro, salute you.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
Appreciate you, no no doubt, big big up to get
them Rizzy and piff Penny. Really cool talking to those guys.
And you know, like I said in the interview there,
when I got hacked on Instagram, you know, pif Penny
actually called my phone, He's like, yo, man, I think
you got I think you got hacked. And I mentioned
this in the last episode. So some of you listening
all the time already heard this story. And I'm not

(01:12:25):
going to get into it too much, but you know,
that's basically how this episode came about because we ended
it with like, hey, I got a new album coming out.
I'm like, okay, when is the drop, right around the
time you get back from your trip. Let's go ahead
and do this thing. So we planned it and you know,
couldn't wait to put this episode together and put that
you know, hacker shit in the in the rear view mirror,

(01:12:45):
you know what I mean. So salute to those guys.
And you know when he's talking about that, Folgers, I
had to bring it up one more time here that
I don't know if that was the thing for everybody else.
But I remember as a kid, you know, my mom
made a lot of fried foods and that oil that
who would always end up I'm assuming it was Folders,
Maybe it was Hills Brothers or Maxwell House, I don't know,
some giant fucking can and we would pour that shit

(01:13:09):
in there and it would stay in there until the
next dinner, which would have fried food in it. And
I don't know how many times you use that same
oil over and over again, but you start to taste
some of the other things that were made in there.
It might have been chicken, it might have been fries, whatever,
and uh yeah, those those remnants, it would always be
in there. Once in a while, we would cut a

(01:13:30):
little slit in the top of that plastic covered thing
and they become a bank. Yeah, they're talking about using
it for stash stuff too. I'm sure there's a lot
of people put you know, their you know, their medicine
in there. You know what I mean by medicine. They
put those in that can. So definitely, if you see
a Folger's can on a top shelf in like a
closet or something, it's not coffee, you should know, damn

(01:13:52):
well that it's not coffee, but it's probably not oil
either if it's in a closet. We kept ours like
next to the coffee maker, like on the countertop. So
that's crazy. But big salute to Piff Penny and Get
Them Rizzy. I really appreciate them coming on the show.
Let's play another track from that album, Epiphany, and make
sure you guys reach out to them on social media,
especially Instagram. They're very accessible. DM them, get that album

(01:14:15):
from them, drop ten dollars, twenty dollars in their pocket,
grab that album. But here's another track from that album
right here. This one I hear is called Petty, and
we talked about this one also in the interview, and
another one of those songs that I really liked a lot.
This song is featuring Aaida who Piff Penny's worked with
you before in the past, and the cuts by my
man Daz Jones. So here we go from the new
album Epiphany from Piff Penny and Get Them Rizzy. This

(01:14:37):
track right here's called Petty featuring Aaida and cuts by
Daz Jones. Here on the Infinite Banch podcast.

Speaker 10 (01:14:42):
Whoo we are Door Hell, We're doing a Gunners send
anybody else a lot now, Buddy Landell, it's so hard
for me to sit back here at this studio looking
at a guy on here hollered my name when last
year pastin.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
There's fine, he washed up.

Speaker 8 (01:15:05):
I'm gonna play with this called note to shorten out
fucking with piss Betcher, Bronco and Saint Poppy the chain
and you ain't sloppy. I throw a shot in your
face while you're dan washing. Grave bends b'soven with the
spray cans Apex, I hit Rizzy for the shakedown, run
down all your biggas with the trade pound long day
for all of you pussies, went on playground grind grills.

(01:15:27):
How about your bit on the small Boost wanted me
to come to the crib, but I ain't want to.
The head on the train was sick. She brought me
lunch to my man working overnight. Want me to come
through bottom line. A lot of bodies like Caliban, I'd
be lying she had dyed, but a lot of line
kid don't want it with skills, hain't ready. Every song
said the scene when you drop piss petty pissed petty.

Speaker 11 (01:15:52):
Line stepped to the first flight, Start Start, line stepped
to the I want to start. Stop throwing our step
to the horses. I want you to start our step
to the phone's.

Speaker 9 (01:16:11):
Like listen, trall it. I'm getting old and I'm pissed
about it because I can no longer respond to everage
Sistan Swallen the realist version that we want to sit
in chilling solace. But I love the face of revenge
it right now, I'm sick with salad. I know when
somebody don't like me and I.

Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
Don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
It's not like they're gonna.

Speaker 8 (01:16:27):
Stop my shining.

Speaker 9 (01:16:29):
How about you get the fuck them by me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
I'm Brianian.

Speaker 9 (01:16:31):
I've been very patient with a with on top my trimee.
Now you gotta watch your man study me. Even the
babies that wom inside your wound came out with a
love for me. Turn it up, but not by being motherly.
Give them a dosa and then send a moment. Got
him seeing through your sunkle ree, I take petty to
a new level. You could keep this realm. I'm in
bed with a you level. I make headway, we know

(01:16:53):
you settle. You go keep this hell feeling hell. Because
a traveler stepping to the.

Speaker 11 (01:16:58):
Car, I want you to dark stop.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
It's only right.

Speaker 11 (01:17:05):
Want to start shop, so it's only right our steps stop,
so it's only right. Want to stand dark dark, No shop,
shop shop.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
I'm not start here. You next, just stay out of
my face. Chuther you.

Speaker 7 (01:17:32):
Each other.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
To officially again, this is your man is the beast
right here?

Speaker 12 (01:17:49):
Man gold Chain Music, Midnight Society and all that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
I'm here with my man DJ south Wave. Man.

Speaker 12 (01:17:55):
You know what we do, man, We get crazy on
an Infinite Danceroom podcast and throw out nothing but the
ill crazy thought processes and all that. So make sure
you tune into the Infinite Banter podcast with my man
DJ Soundway Bomb.

Speaker 6 (01:18:08):
It's hard for you to leave assholds.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
That is Kirk casa Vedo. Tell me to get the
hell out of here, and that is exactly what I'm
going to do. But before I get out of here,
a couple of things I tease at the beginning. So
there's a couple of TV shows that I'm watching currently
in a movie I went to see that I want
to speak on a little bit. I'm not going to
spoil anything and give too much away, but if you
heard the interview I talked about the movie, I might
as well just say it here. So I went and
saw Sinners. And my birthday was recently. And I don't

(01:18:33):
know about you guys, but whenever you go places, you
sign up for things online, when your birthday comes, you'll
get like all these emails saying you got a free
percentage off, or you got to free this or that's that,
and I used a lot of them. I had a
free Starbucks coffee, I already did that. I had a
free Outive Garden cake or whatever. I did that as well,
but I kept forgetting I had this movie ticket free.
I had like thirty days to use it. Well, thirty

(01:18:55):
days is coming up, and I almost I almost forgot
about it. And I looked on my phone. I'm like
playing today. I just like, I don't know where. I
just like, I gotta use it today. I'm gonna just
go see something. I kept seeing people posting about Sinners,
and I know what it is. I mean, it's Ryan Coogler,
who directed Creed and Black Panther and Fruit Filed Station
and Michael B. Jordan is in it. I was like, Okay,
I think I'm gonna see this. It looks like it
might be something i'll be into I really have no

(01:19:17):
interest in seeing Thunderbolts. You know, maybe it's good, maybe
it's I don't know. I'm just I have Marvel withdrawal syndrome.
I just I don't need to watch unless it's like
Daredevil or something. I really don't want to watch a
lot of Marvel stuff. You gotta really be something that's
up my alley, and Thunderbolts is just eh, you know whatever.
Not interested. So went saw Sinners and I really knew

(01:19:37):
nothing about the movie. I really had no idea what
was about. I just knew a set like in the
thirties or something. So it's really cool. Michael B. Jordan
is playing two different characters. He's twins. Smoking Stack is
really really cool. It's the kind of movie that that
you make that makes people like myself get off the
couch and go to the movies instead of a'll wait
for it to come on. Name your platform, right, because

(01:19:59):
this is the kind of movie that that makes you
want to go to the movies, because there's not a
lot of movies like that anymore, and the movie theaters
are starting to suffer because they can't get people to
come out and watch things. These everybody's wanting to see
it on Peacock or Disney Plus or wherever the heck.
You know, you watch your stuff, So I'm glad something
like this is out there and made me want to
go see it, even though I had a free ticket.

(01:20:21):
That's besides the point. It's kind of the point. But
by the way, I went at ten o'clock in the morning.
It's glorious. Not a single person in the movie theater.
I've done a rant on this before, way back in
the early days of his show. Going to see a
movie by yourself is the best. And you can't talk
me off of that that it is the greatest. You
get to sit down, pick wherever you want to sit.

(01:20:42):
There's nobody else there. Ten in the morning. It's glorious.
You already had your breakfast, you already hit your coffee,
you're ready to go. You're not too sleepy. Man, it's
the best, man, I can't knock it. So only one
in the theater watching this thing, and I had no
idea it was a vampire movie. If that's a spoiler,
I'm sorry, but it reminded me a little bit of
From Dust Till Dawn, which is kind of like that.

(01:21:03):
It starts off as a heist movie, kidnapp movie, you know,
and turns into a vampire movie. But it's different. There's
elements of like the thing in there, the garlic scene.
People watch the movie on know what I'm talking about.
I even got like a ramble feel when I watched
some of it too, And of course it feels like,
you know, Boardwalk Empire, like the thirties, you know, Prohibition era,
you know. And then there's so much music in it,

(01:21:24):
a lot, a lot of good music. And I don't
want to say too much more, but I will say this.
It's not a spoiler, but a guest who's been on
this podcast, he's been twice, is in the movie. There's
a character in it called Cornbread and I kept thinking
to myself, you know, who could play this role would
have been the Otis Crane. I was thinking that, and
then at the end of the movie, Theoda's crane pops up.

(01:21:45):
He's going in it for like a you know, like
thirty seconds or a minute. But I was like, oh shit,
I was sticking about him, and there he is, and
I hit him up. I messaged him like, man, I
just saw cinners Man, congrats you were great in it.
I was thinking you could have been Cornbread. He's like,
by the way, I was his stunt double, so I
got to get more out of him, like you know
which parts. There's a lot of action in that, so
that's pretty cool to learn that he was a stunt

(01:22:06):
you're hearing this here first, you're not going to read
that and you know, Entertainment Magazine or whatever. The otis Crane,
who's not just in the movie, he's also the stunt
double corn Bread. So that's really really cool. And he
was just talking about how it was a lot of
fun to make that movie and a lot of it
it has, you know, Chicago feel to it. The two
twins are they go to Chicago, they come back to Mississippi,
and the end of the movie is I mean, it's

(01:22:27):
not actually in Chicago, but they say it is a
lot of cool stuff. Man, I really like that movie.
Allots everybody out there, I don't want to spoil it
too much. I don't want to say too much. Go
see Centers. It's not a lot of movies out right
now that you probably want to go see. That is
one of them. I can tell you what you don't
want to watch, and that's Dead City. Another Walking Dead
spin off. And I hate to say it. I've probably
been saying it already, but now I feel like it.
It's more than just talk. They kind of need to

(01:22:49):
stop making these things. Is not going anywhere. The franchise
is dead and ever since they read out of material
that's no long longer the source material, meaning the comic books.
They're not pulling from that anymore. They have to write
their own stuff. You can tell. It's just boring. It's
I mean, that first episode of Dead City, maybe want

(01:23:09):
to take a nap. It's awful. I don't care that
Nagad and Maggie have this like conflict with each other anymore.
It's getting old. I don't know why they're in New York.
I don't care. I'm still watching it because that's what
I do. I'm gonna keep watching it, I guess. But man,
they need to get some new writers or something, because
this franchise is it's on life support.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:23:30):
There's just like nothing going on. It's hard for me
to keep, you know what I mean, like supporting it
and defending what they do because they're not putting out
quality material. The Darryl Show is kind of lame. The
Rick and Machone show is it was all right, but
it just didn't hit the mark Man. There was like
something missing. And this dead City thing is just it's

(01:23:51):
just not good I worded man. There's nobody on that
show that you care about. That the kid stings, he's
a brat. There's some other kid. I don't even know
her name. It's just this is not good man. Why
is Maggie in this brick city? What happened to the
Commonwealth or Alexandra? Why isn't she there? I have no idea.
They don't explain it. Why he's neaging in New York.
I don't know. I mean I kind of know, but

(01:24:12):
I don't really care. So, yeah, this show needs to
go away, But there's for more episodes and I'll watch it.
And this is the most I've ever talk about it,
so don't worry. Also, but there is a show that's
making a franchise at least feel like it still has
some life. And that's and Or. If you're not watching
and Or. This is for Star Wars fans out there,
you're missing out. And Or is phenomenal. And a lot

(01:24:33):
of it feels like stuff that's going on now in
the news. You know, with big governments taken over, empires
taken over, and the little man trying to defend itself.
Just a really well done show. Season one was phenomenal.
Rogue one was great, the best movie after you know,
the Disney purchase, and this is the events before Rogue one,

(01:24:53):
and it's just really great. I can't wait to watch
the last three episodes, So big salute to and Or.
If you have not and you're a Star Wars fan,
even on the fence, this is the show you should watch.
I will say this, This is a movie that it
took me two months to watch. We got Peacock and
Wicked is on there, and I like the words that
of Oz I grew up on. I'm a big fan
of it. My daughter likes it, and I was like,

(01:25:15):
let's watch Wicked. I hate musicals, right, but you know,
I do want to see how this connects with Wards.
And I've never seen the musical, so I don't know
anything about it. And we watched it, and like thirty
minutes in, I was like, I'm good, I don't want
to watch this thing. You ever watch like a movie
or something where you started it and you turned it
off and then you never went back to it. That's wicked.

(01:25:37):
I finally did go back to it, almost like two
months later. We turned the thing on, and I'm just like,
let's just finish this dumb thing because I want to
cancel my Peacock subscription. Let's just knock it out. And
it's just I just don't care, man, it's just singing.
Like I know, it's a musical, right, I get it,
But when you're in the auditorium and you watch it,

(01:25:58):
the musical aspect of it makes sense, but it doesn't
translate to film. And I know the words of Oz,
I guess is a musical in a sense, but there's
a lot of storyline there and you're not singing everything,
and in this it's like everything is a song and
I'm just like, I don't want to hear this. And
why can't the Witch just be evil from the jump?
Why why we got to make it like a skin thing, like, oh,

(01:26:19):
she's born with green skin and they pick on her
like I don't know, Maybe there's some wicked people out
there that really like the musical and the stuff from
the nineties that they did originally and they're really excited
to see this thing. I struggled to even watch it,
so good on you for giving it a chance. I
was bored and not interested. I did not feel like

(01:26:40):
I was watching the Words of Oz. It's kind of
like watching the Star Wars prequels. I did not feel
like I was watching Star Wars. Sorry, there's some prequel
people out there, because the prequels are you know, they're
getting you know, so people are kind of pretending like
they didn't like them before and they like them now
and they've always liked them. They're trying to pretend like, oh, yeah,
they're always good. I really still don't like them, but
you know, to each their own. I almost forgot a

(01:27:01):
couple other things I wanted to bring up before I
get out of here. So I had mentioned in the
last episode. I gave a little bit of details of
my trip to Seattle and all that. There were two
things I completely forgot to mention, and they came back
in my brain before you know, I did this episode here.
So one cool thing they do there at the Public
Market Center. It's a place right there on the waterfront,

(01:27:22):
lots of vendors and they're selling like seafood and stuff,
which you know, I've mentioned this show many times I'm
not a fan of but there's a thing that they
do that people come there just to watch them do
so to be a guy behind a counter and a
guy like on the floor and people gather around. And
I caught the tail end of it, and I've seen
it on YouTube and stuff when I was, you know,
researching the city and like, wow, they really do stuff

(01:27:43):
like this here. They do a fish toss where the
one guy on the floor will toss the fish to
the guy behind the counter. He catches it and then
you know that's the order or whatever. It's kind of gross,
you know, not gumwall gross, but gross because you know,
I don't know, fish guts go flying and hitting people.
I'm not I wasn't close to get you know, a
gut splash, but it's something they do there, and a

(01:28:03):
lot of people gather around to watch it. It was
pretty cool to see. I'm sure for the fish it's
not the greatest because you know, you're a meal, but yeah,
a lot of people go to check that out. So
that was a cool thing to bring up. But another thing.
The only disappointment I had going there. So when I
went to the Mariner's game, I forgot to mention this.
In the last episode, they were doing a giveaway. They
were giving away these camouflage Mariners jerseys, and I was

(01:28:26):
like when I saw that was a giveaway, like a
month before, I was like, oh, man, when we go
to this game, I can't wait to get this thing.
We're gonna all get jerseys. They don't have that many fans,
and I can have fifteen thousand people before us, you want,
like forty five minutes early, I felt like confident got
to the gate, I'm like, these guys aren't giving on
any more jerseys. He's like, oh, they're all gone. I
was pissed, and my daughter hers like, are you gonna

(01:28:48):
be mad if you don't get a jersey. I'm like, yeah,
a little bit. You know, I'm over it now, but
at the time I was kind of pissed off, and
I kept thinking of anybody out there seeing Pee Wee's
big adventure. There's a scene, you know, when his bike
gets and he's sitting like in the outside mall area
and all these these are people riding by on bikes
just to remind him that he doesn't have a bike.

(01:29:08):
So there's like bikes here, bikes there. Crazy. That's how
I felt because everywhere I looked, somebody was wearing one
of those damn shirts. The next day, when we were
still there, you're doing our touristy things, there are people
walking around with those shirts on, like just to remind
me that I didn't get the damn shirt right in
my face. And I felt like pee wee in that movie, like, oh,
I don't have a bike. Now everybody's got a bike
and I don't have a bike. So did I really

(01:29:30):
need the shirt? And nogus. I probably never would have
wore it, maybe would have worre once, but it was
like one of those things I thought I was gonna
get it. I had no doubt I would get it,
and then I didn't get it, and I was kind
of bummed that I didn't get it. And then I'm
just reminded of it on the train ride back to
the hotel and walking around the next day and seeing
people walking around wearing them shirts, just a reminder you
didn't get the damn shirt, man, because you were I

(01:29:51):
guess not early enough. Damn it. I found out too
that this is a small thing that only matters to me.
Probably I like paper tickets. They don't do those anymore.
So I've been going to these baseball parks for years.
I'm trying to go to each one. I've been collecting
the ticket and I put them in this scrap book.
This is the first one I've gone to since twenty eighteen.
It's also the first one i've gone to post COVID

(01:30:13):
that's not Wrigley Field. And I can't get a ticket.
You gotta do it on the phone. It's all paperless now.
I even ask the ticket booth person like can I
get a ticket? Do you guys print out anything?

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
Like?

Speaker 6 (01:30:24):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
So it kind of stinks. I miss that era. I
know it's not important to most people, but I have
been collecting tickets since I was a kid, and it's
kind of kind of a bummer man that I can't
have a physical ticket to be like a souvenir of
my time going there. So I'm sure there's places like
on Etsy or whatever they make ones that you can
kind of finagle it. It's not the same thing. I
get it. You know, we're in an era now we

(01:30:46):
don't do that anymore. But damn I miss having an
actual physical ticket. So that's my Seattle little excursion from
what I'm talking about today. Just realize I forgot to
mention on the last episode, so I want to bring
that up before I got out of here. But let's
go ahead and finish the show here the Infinite Banter Podcast.
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(01:31:06):
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(01:31:27):
You got it? Here it is the long Infinite Banter episode.
You've been crazy. You wanted that hour and a half back,
You got it. We're back to that old format. So
things for checking out the show. Thanks for going through
this whole episode with me. Salute to Piff Penny and
get them Rizzy. Check out their new album Epiphany And
until I do another one of these, man Dead City's
gotta go. I'm out there, Hey, get off the road

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
On thet in Banter with my man Mark has been
a pleasure.

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