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September 4, 2025 39 mins
Episode 216: In this episode, Mark talks about his recent excursion to Fan Expo Chicago. He discusses his expereince at this convention and how it has similarities and differences to other comic conventions in the Chicago area. Also, there are three interview segments within the episode. First, Mark brings back an on site interview from 2019 with actor Jason Moore known for his time on "The Punisher" Netflix series. Second, a segment from his past interview with artist Jeffrey Brown keeps the comic vibe going, talking about his start in working with illustrations and putting out books about "Star Wars" and "Batman". Lastly, a segment from a past interview with actor Ira Heiden from "A Nightmare on Elm Street, Dream Warriors" is included. We talk about his time at conventions meeting fans and his experience working on Nightmare. 

Check out Fan Expo at - https://fanexpohq.com/fanexpochicago/

Mark also reviews the new Jason/Friday the 13th short film "Sweet Revenge". Link to film here- https://www.angryorchard.com/halloween

Check out “Things and Stuff” where Mark reviews collectibles on The Infinite Banter Youtube channel. Direct link for current video- https://youtu.be/G1el4GYzHF8?si=GadJ1aAHKCJ0bgKa

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey there, this is Ira Hayden, the wizard Master from
Nightmare on Elm Street Part three, and you are listening
to the Infinite Banter podcast. And remember, whatever you do,
don't follow.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Asleep Infinite Banter podcast. Baby.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Here it is another episode of the Infinite Banter Podcast.
What is going on? My name is Mark Jolaffe also
known as DJ Soundwave also known as DJ Bloombox. Shout
out to Blue Temple from The Walking Dead for calling
me that this episode here is a specific special episode
that's just about comic book conventions and the most reason
when I went to Fan Expo here in Chicago went

(01:04):
to that convention, and I want to focus this episode
on my experience there, and I'll bring back a couple
of snippets of interviews I've done in the past that
our comic book convention related. So in this episode here,
not only wull I be talking about attending Fan Expo,
but we'll bring back interviews from Jeffrey Brown who was
on the podcast last fall, Jason Moore, who I met
at a convention years ago in the early days of

(01:26):
doing this, and then Ira Haydn, who is on my
Halloween episode last fall as well. So stay tuned. We
got interviews from them coming up here. Definitely re using
some content to create kind of a standalone comic book
convention episode. But before we go forward, we always go back.
And on the last episode, I had ultramag seven on
the culture Clip King. He has a way of just

(01:47):
making clips on social media and reworking old music and
videos and kind of creating something new out of it,
and he was on the show the last episode. Had
a blast talking with him. Here's a clip from that
past episode. Chance check it out here you go flashback
Ultramax seven on the most recent episode of the Infinite
Banter podcast Flashback.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, I do. I do these.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
I guess what people call a mashup, and I got
known for that during I Guess the pandemic. Even still now,
I mean, people have discovering me. But I went from
like no followers to I think I'm hovering around sixty
thousand or something just from I always say it to
people doing these dumb little videos and the like, they're

(02:30):
not dumb, and I'm like, just for me, because it
was me sitting in the house just being bored, just bored,
and you know, I just I thought that there was
this hip hop. I guess in my mind, I thought
there was some hip hop thing building on social media
and I wanted to be a part of it. But
I guess that was just an algorithm with all the
people I was following.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Just there you go. Definitely go back and check out
that episode if you not had a chance a lot
of fun talk with Ultramax seven follow him online Ultramax
you can see all his cool clips and everything, and
check out his podcast, The Prospective Podcast, and he's also
featured on the It's Sea Doc Again podcast every Tuesday
on Instagram, So check him out. Big shout out to

(03:10):
him for coming on the show. But as I'd mentioned,
this is an episode dedicated to conventions, and most recently
I went to the Fan Expo.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Here.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
They call it Chicago, but it's Rosemont. It's not really Chicago.
It's on the outskirts of Chicago Northwest suburbs. The first
convention I went to was in two thousand and four.
It's called wizard World, and some years later wizard World
no longer was the thing, and now that convention is
called fan Expo. So it's considered the longest running convention
in the Chicago area. Even though it's under a different name,

(03:39):
different management title, all that stuff, but the elements are
still there. You've got vendors, comic books and toys and
figures and things. You've got local artists, and you've got
name artists, and you've got celebrities and cosplayers. Everything you
expect at a convention you definitely get at the Fan Expo.
The only one that even is close to competing with

(03:59):
it is c Tweet two, which happens in usually in
late spring early spring in the Chicago area at the
McCormick Place. So I definitely had a Blasko in the
fan XBO. I appreciate the invite, and you know, having
the podcast come out there, saw some really cool cos players.
If you follow me on Instagram at Infinite Banter podcast,
you'll see that I posted a bunch of pictures from
different people who were dressed up at the convention. I've

(04:21):
been going to these things for so long that it's
been like twenty years of going to these conventions, and
you know, as I get older, it's like, how many
more can I do? Can I do three in a year? Anymore?
Can I do three days? Because they go from you know,
Friday to Saturday, to Sunday, and sometimes they're on Thursdays
as well. Fan Xpo no different. They were on from
Friday through Sunday, so it's a lot of walking. You
get your steps in the Rosemott Convention centers. There's a

(04:44):
Starbucks in there, so you can grab yourself a drink
while you're walking around and checking out all the merch
and all the cool cos players and everything. It's funny.
Every year I seen them run into the same guy
dressed as Macho Man. I saw him again, took a
picture with him, you know, did the oh, yeah, what's
going on? And we kept seeing him everywhere. He was
in the Taco line stand, he was walking down River Road,
he was, he was everywhere. So yeah, shout out to

(05:06):
the guy who dressed up his mouch Man every year
because I see him all the time. You know, there's
a guy dressed up like Art the clown from Terrifire.
There was a really cool Daredevil cosplay where he had
like the yellow and red, like that old school look
that before the eighties. Feel definitely was like in that.
Probably my favorite cosplay that I saw, and I don't
even know how to describe it or what it was called.
Or what he's dressed up as. But he was wearing

(05:27):
a thriller Michael Jackson's shirt and his head was a boombox.
He was really cool. I have a picture of it.
I wish I would have asked what he was dressed as.
Sometimes you take pictures of somebody because it looks cool,
but you don't really know what they're dressed up as,
and you kind of like, oh, man, I should have
asked what he or she is dressed up as. But
that was my favorite. And the boombox speakers had like
they were like eyes, so he would like move, so

(05:48):
it was pretty cool. And the tape deck was like
the mouth.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Definitely my favorite cosplay I saw this year. But shout
out to Fan Expo when it come to a town
near you. I definitely suggest checking them out. Lots of celebrities,
big name like they had a lot of Star Wars
people there. A little bit out of my price range
though young it's sound like that old guy, because like
back in like two thousand and four when I went
the first time, I think it paid like twenty bucks
to get a picture with Mark Singer and get a

(06:12):
signed photograph and you know the other celebrities I met
at that convention, they were all like twenty bucks. Eventually
it starts getting a little bit higher, and I'm starting
to get to a point where I don't necessarily go
in those lines anymore. And they're really long too. But
if you're somebody who's looking to meet you and McGregor
or whoever from Star Wars, or you know your favorite
compook artist, make sure you go to fanxpo HQ dot

(06:32):
com and they'll be coming back to the Chicagoland area
August fourteenth, fifteenth, and sixteenth of twenty twenty six, So
get your tickets now. They're probably already selling them, so
don't sleep. Check out fanxpo. All right, let's get into
the episode here. So, as I mentioned, I'm gonna play
segments from three different interviews I've done in the past.
So we're gonna play some segments from past interviews with

(06:53):
Jeffrey Brown, Jason Moore, and Ira Hayden coming up here.
And at the end of the episode, I do want
to get into there's actually new Friday the thirteenth, Jason content.
There was a short movie I was just released on
YouTube called Sweet Revenge, put up by Angry Orchard. I
think I gotta go buy an Angry Orchard drink because
they've got Jason cans, so I need to get those

(07:14):
drink one. Maybe I'll do a review about it or
something or whre's my guy DJ real One? Is he
up on that Angry Orchard? Is that stuff any good?
I have no idea. I've never had it before. So
I'll talk about the Sweet Revenge fifteen minutes short that
came out. It's the first Jason related thing released in
like twenty years that's not a fan made film, you know,
something like that. Really excited to talk about that. Let's
get into the Comic Book Convention special episode of the

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(08:20):
play some interviews from the past, talk about fan Expo,
talk about the new Jason shorts. But the show never
begins until the one and Only who I met at
a convention. This audio is from the c TWEE two
convention some years back. The One and Only King from
Queen's DMC says this, and now the show begins.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Yo, Yo, what's up?

Speaker 6 (08:36):
This is me DMC to K I and g the
greatest MC in history. And right now you're listening to
Infinite Banter because we will banter on forever, because this
is the only place for all of youall to ever be.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
I be Infinite Banter.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
So the first interview I want to play is from
when I went to the Walkers Stalker con in twenty nineteen,
which I can't believe it's been six years already. And
I got to talk to Kirk Osceavedo, who you hear
every episode here at the end when he's saying it's
time for you to leave asshole. That's from that convention.
But I also got to meet Jason Moore. For those
who don't know, he was in the Punisher Netflix series.

(09:16):
He played Curtis. He was kind of like the moral
compass of that show. He was the guy who was
trying to kind of lead Frank Castle in the right direction.
And he was a guy who like mentored and did
therapy with, you know, veterans who were come back from
military service who had some issues. So his characters really
pivotal to that show. And I was always hoping they'd
bring him back. And I just saw an instagram he

(09:37):
posted that he is coming back to punish her. There's
the next Punisher special. He will be acting in it again,
reprising his role as Curtis. That's great and it made
me think, like, man, I need to go back to
that interview. I haven't heard it in so long, and
it's a side noticed. One of my favorite moments at
these conventions because my wife was with me and she
was pregnant with our daughter at the time. So our
picture with Jason Moore is of, you know, basically, we

(09:57):
got a freebie. We we got my daughter's first celebrity
pick was this picture with Jason Moore. So pretty cool,
really really good dude, And this interview was a lot
of fun to talk with him on site at that
Walker Stalker con back in twenty nineteen. So here we
go a little bit of a flashback. We have a
couple flashbacks in this episode, So here we go Jason
Moore talking about his time on Punisher and kind of

(10:18):
alluding to how he wants to come back. Well, here's
some news he is coming back. Here on the Infinite
Banter podcast. All right, I'm here with Jason Moore at
the Walking Dead convention and Jason Moore from the Punisher show.
Glad to meet your mandates coming on.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
What's up man, It's good to be here.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Appreciate it. The jacket. First of all, that jacket is
something Oh yo.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
Y'all can't see it, but it is something I wish
I could see it now. It's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Being a big fan of Punisher, it's like you're the
moral compass of that show. You're always in the middle
trying to keep Frank online and Jigsaw and everything. What
was that like playing that character?

Speaker 5 (10:50):
It was it was it was dope.

Speaker 7 (10:51):
So it was like, it's like, of course, I want
to be the badass, you know, I want the Curtis
to at least show that side of him because you know,
he is a former marine, you know, so right was
a marine, but anyway, but he was he was the
guy that put the bad the badasses together. So the
badasses needed him. The bad asses came to Curtis, and
that was the beauty. That was like the best part

(11:12):
of like playing Curtis is like, yeah, the punishes to
punish them, but the punishers still need to come to
Curtis for that guidance, that brotherhood, and so it was
really important for Curtis to be there for them, even Billy,
you know, even though Billy betrayed us, you know, it
was still important for Curtis to be there for him.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
So yeah, I dug that approach.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
To the role.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
It was like Curtis saw the good in both of
those guys.

Speaker 7 (11:33):
Oh yeah, yeah, Curtis definitely saw the good in both
of them, and wanted to bring that out more than
anything else.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
But that's part of him.

Speaker 7 (11:40):
Filtering through that PTSD that they're all suffering is a
big theme of the show, and getting them to be
like a real healed person, a better person even though
that they're suffering.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Did you a lot of feedback from military people, you know,
with the role you're playing, Like people like, oh, I
can see like myself through your character, you know, with
having the one leg and everything.

Speaker 7 (12:02):
Yeah, one thing that was special about it is that,
you know, military people vets.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
They showed their appreciation for the role, and then that
made it.

Speaker 7 (12:10):
That made it work for me, you know, I'm glad
I was able to do it justice for them and
we didn't cut any corners. And I took a real
approach in terms of creating Curtis Oil for myself. And
one thing I like to mention is that in the
group sessions, those are all vets that are all real vets.
So I got to I got I was really close
to the real deal, and so they got to fill

(12:30):
me in on things, We got to talk about it,
and so there was a direct connection.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
And a lot of US fans are of course disappointed
with the Netflix. You know Punishers no longer going to
be back. Any idea if you could do something with
Punisher ales in the movies or anything, or.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
Listen, I don't know what they're gonna do with it.

Speaker 7 (12:47):
Dudes in suits and boardrooms make the decisions right, and
Punishers just the latest casualty in corporate wars man, So
I don't know what they're gonna do. They don't fill
listen until last minute. But yeah, for the fans, which
I am a fan two of the show in Marvel
uh intellectual properties, I want to see it again just
like everyone else. So hopefully they make a move and

(13:10):
they get us all together again to bring bring the
season three together.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
All right, Jason, So who is your favorite character of
all time?

Speaker 5 (13:16):
Superhero wise Man, It's the Halt.

Speaker 7 (13:19):
It's the incredible Halt because you know he gets stronger
as he gets angrier.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
And I mean, I always wanted to do that.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
So so you don't do that in real life?

Speaker 7 (13:27):
No, I mean I wish, but I can't. I don't
get stronger. In fact, I get stupider and weaker if
I get angrier. Right, relates right, right, But yeah, if
I can, if I can be the Halt that that
be That would be an awesome thing. And yeah, that's
always been my favorite ones, even since Luke for Ringo.
I's a little kid watching Luke turned It like I

(13:48):
was like, yea, come on a right, Yeah, they need
to remake it and that's that's how they need to
do it. They need to do it and they need
to they need to show that off because they haven't
done it and all of the halt it's always been
cgi but they never they never, they never really explored
much of that and I'm still waiting for that to happen.

(14:08):
So Avengers, I want to see if that happens in
the Avengers game where he takes on Thanos and he
just gets angrier and because you know his boys is gone,
some of this boys is going, and then he just
he's able to catch racks.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Makes you want to boke up and then put some
green makeup.

Speaker 7 (14:23):
Man, like, Yeah, it's one of my favorite dog. It's
like it's because the dude grows gets stronger. It's like
everything as a kid you want to do right.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
It should be unstoppable.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
He should be unstoppable.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, And before I go, just tell me what you're
working on. What can't people see Jason Moore doing next.

Speaker 7 (14:38):
Yes, So I got Honor Monk Thieves coming out, which
is a film that I'm starting in, and uh ep
on that one, and uh that's in post production now,
so that one's gonna be coming out. And I got
some other stuff. I can't talk about it yet. We'll
watch out, Yeah, to watch.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
Out for it. Some things should be hitting the trade. So, okay, I.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Really appreciate you coming on the podcast.

Speaker 7 (14:56):
No, I no problem, man, Thanks for having me appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Thank you so much. Hey, y'all, Sleuth Temple Axel from
The Walking Dad and you're listening to the Infinite Manter Podcast.

Speaker 8 (15:05):
Keep listening, you follow me.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
So here's another interview I've done on the podcast. Here.
This is with Jeffrey Brown. He's an artist and a
comic book writer. He was on the show back in
the fall episode one ninety five if you want to
check out the full episode. Had a blast talking with him.
He's done so much cool work Darth Vader AND's son.
His books are aimed. I guess you can say they're
aimed at kids, but I think adults like myself can
really appreciate it. Because one we're comic book nerds and

(15:30):
we like Star Wars and Batman and stuff, but they
come from an angle of like being a dad or
a mom or someone with kids, so it's kind of
helping both sides of He's found a way like a
niche there with his books. So definitely a big fan
of his work, and I was excited to have him
on the show, you know, back last fall. So here's
a segment I did with him talking about doing Star
Wars books as well as his newer book, Batman Robin

(15:53):
and Howard Summer Breakdown. Really great book. Definitely go check
it out. He has a newer X Men book that's
out as well. He just does great work. He finds
a way to kind of juggle something that kids could
read and adults can still get into the same time.
It's not very easy. He's found a way to do that,
and a big salute to Jeffrey Brown. So go ahead
and check him out. Jeffrey browncomics dot com. And here's

(16:13):
a segment from my interview with him last fall here
on the Infinite Banter podcast.

Speaker 8 (16:17):
Started doing some autobiographical comics, you know, adult relationship stories
just about awkward everyday moments, and I was doing those
when I had the opportunity to do something for Google
for their homepage. They had the idea of doing something
with Luke Scawalker and Darth Vader and how awkward an

(16:40):
everyday moment would be between the two of them. And
so normally there's a there's a whole team of people
at Google that create the Google doodles, but everyone's a while,
they'll invite outside artists to draw something. And I'd met
the guy that runs the doodle team at some point,
and he called me up and was like, here's the idea.
We think you'd be perfect to do this, And so

(17:03):
I did up a bunch of sketches and most of
which ended up in the first book. But in the
end Google decided like that they didn't they weren't going
to use the idea for whatever reason, and which at
first was super disappointing. But then I realized, you know, well,
one of my publishers, Chronicle Books, has done a lot

(17:24):
of Star Wars books. Maybe they could take this idea
to Lucasfilm and we could see if, like, we could
make a whole book out of this. And so that
that's what we did, and Lucasfilm liked it. And you
know the rest is history.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
So yeah, I was gonna say, taking you to Lucasfilm.
I think just that idea probably excited you too, write
to know that, well, if they like it, now you've
got something.

Speaker 8 (17:44):
Right, Yeah, I mean, and I knew that, you know,
it's you're you're not going to be able to like
I wasn't just going to be able to like send
something into LUCASLM, like, hey, I've got this idea, Like
if Lucasfilm, especially now with Disney, you know, if they
if that was their submission policy, like nothing would ever
have happened, like like everyone's job would just be reading submissions, right.
So yeah, So it was fortunate that you know, I

(18:07):
had the relationship with The Chronicle and then they had
the relationship with Lucasfilm to kind of have that door open.
And the main point of the book for me was
writing for adults like myself who grew up with Star
Wars and were now having kids, and so as a
Star Wars fan, I you know, I was fairly confident that,
you know that Lucasfilm would like the idea. Like whether

(18:28):
or not they were up for having it be a
book was you know, like the question mark. But it
was a period before Disney had purchased Lucasfilm and they
were still open maybe a little more to doing some
things kind of outside the box. And it was kind
of the right the right timing and the right situation

(18:48):
and everything that it all just came together.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, it's like everything had to the galaxies had to
come together, right from the stick workouts. You know when
I read that book now and you touched on something there,
you know, when you're a father, you know, like it's
that I got this book before my daughter was born,
you know, five years ago, but I picked it up yesterday.
I mean, even stuff now that I'm reading because after
five years of having a little one running around, Like
the Privacy one is my favorite, because I don't know

(19:12):
how many times I'm in the bathroom or in the
showers something and should just open the door and come
in there and start telling me about something that's exciting
for her. It's like you've got to get out of here. Yeah.
So there's so many things that are just so relatable.
I'm sure that's part of what got you to write it,
because you're relating to a lot of it as well.

Speaker 8 (19:28):
Yeah, I mean so you know that at the time,
my son was four years old, and I was just
basically just pulled everything just straight from life. And I mean,
coming from a history of doing autobiographical comics, you know,
I've always been interested in work that feels personal. So
even if I'm going to do something like Star Wars,

(19:49):
I want it to be personal in a way beyond
just like the fact that I love the Star Wars
and have known these characters my whole life and all that.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
And I wanted to ask you to, as you said earlier,
you started drawing. Who are some of your favorite ones
to draw early on? Was it always Darth Vader?

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Was it Luke?

Speaker 3 (20:05):
And who are some of the characters you really had
an attachment to?

Speaker 8 (20:08):
I mean, Ewoks, we're big anything from haff like I
love drawing like you know, like the Rebel Soldiers and
and ad Ats and snow Speeders and Yoda also and
then beyond that, just you know, hath, Ewoks and Yoda
are probably like the big three when I look through

(20:29):
those old drawings.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
So should we be looking for a Grandpa Palpatine book.
I don't know if I want it. I don't know
if anybody wants that, because it's controversial. Now many people
like that storyline, but it's an obvious one.

Speaker 8 (20:42):
Yeah, you know, it's you know, it's it's tough, like
the with the books, you've you've got to you've got
to find the right kind of it's the word, like
just the right kind of idea to fit everything together.
So so Darth, Vader and Sun was easy because it's
it's a little obvious, and then Vader's little princess, Like
then it's just you know, going to Princess Leo and adding.

(21:06):
The most recent one is is Mandalorian and Child with
Grogu and Mandalorian. It's a it's a similar kind of
parenting storyline, but Grogu is younger than in the book,
and it's also it's like because it's like a surrogate parent.
It's there's like it's just there's just like a slight difference.
So it's like finding that right kind of that right

(21:29):
spot to make all the jokes work for me as
as I'm creating, it is tough, and so I'd actually
thought about like the grandparents angle actually when I was
working on Ray and Pals. So the book with the
sequel trilogy and the like, it just didn't seem to
click right for me, Like I just didn't find the

(21:49):
right kind of entry point to fit in the grandparents right.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
As you can't force it, yeah, to use the word force,
you can't force it in there pun intended. You've got
to let it happen naturally, right and if it doesn't work,
it doesn't work.

Speaker 8 (22:05):
You can't try you can really do or.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Do not or it screwing up all the lines. But yeah,
I mean I like I said that the Darth Vader
and Son book is my introduction to your work. And
you know, once I read that, I was like, Wow,
this is really great. I need to follow up and
look at more stuff. I need to get the Princess
Leiah version you're talking about earlier. And like I said,
being a parent, it's just so relatable and obviously you
found a way to connect that. And that's is that

(22:29):
kind of your niche to some people come to you
when if you hear reactions in these books like oh,
I'm a father or I'm a mother and I have
kids and this book really spoke to me as well
as being a Star Wars fan or a Batman fan.

Speaker 8 (22:39):
Yeah, the biggest and maybe like the best response that
comes to me is and it's from both sides, both parents,
and I've I've had you know, like adult kids, so
like kids in college.

Speaker 9 (22:53):
So I guess not really kids like kids to me
because I'm old now.

Speaker 8 (22:57):
But you know, like like you have people who who
are like connecting with their parents through the books and
parents who are connecting with their kids through the books,
and so it's kind of like this, uh, this this
great thing where the books bring bring families together and
which is really like kind of a cheesy, cheesy thing

(23:18):
to say, but anyway, and it wasn't like, again, that
wasn't my plan. My plan. I wanted it to be
for I was writing for basically myself, and I was
just having fun drawing Star Wars, right, But yeah, that's
I think that's the the big thing is the how
the books have kind of connected different generations.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Oh for sure. And you know you talked about bringing
families together, and you know, you, me and my daughter
will watch Star Wars when it's on, like tat will
have like a weekend we're just like playing all of
them and we'll pick and choose which ones we leave
on and uh, and it's it does bring it together
and she likes it. You know, when Mermaid's not on
or you know, maybe you're Disney princessing, it's probably more
important to her. But you know, she'll let Daddy watch

(24:00):
Star Wars or Superman if it comes or whatever. Like
whatever I'm into. Sometimes I'll pop up and I think,
like you're doing with the books, like you're creating both
worlds and people who grew up like me with comic
books and superheroes and all that, and kids can also
get into I think it. There's something to that, and
I think that's why this book resonates with me and
a lot of other people, and obviously with yourself. You're
getting the great reactions you have. And man, this Batman

(24:22):
book is really great. I just finished reading it the
other day. So it's when I get to titled Everybody, Batman,
Robin and Howard Summer Breakdown, and it's it's a story.
It's not just little humorous little panels you've done in
the past. This is actually a full story here. And
I really like the dynamic of It's similar with the
Darth Vader ones. Like Batman's a struggling parent. He's trying
to figure out how do I you can relate this

(24:43):
everyday life Batman's you know, he's got a the mother
of his child is not really with him and Italia
and they're kind of figuring out how to raise Damien
and this kid. Howard is in the mix and talk
about just the concept of this book and how I
first came to the idea of doing something like this.

Speaker 8 (24:57):
Yeah, so DC had yours years back when they first
started making a push to have more younger reader books specifically,
and there's an editor who had come from actually from
working with Disney who knew my work, and she was
inviting different authors also, like not authors who work like

(25:19):
your your traditional like DC Marvel writers and artists, and
she asked if I would be interested in doing something,
and like I was always more of a Marvel guy
to be, to be honest, but except for Batman. And
so so I was like, yeah, I want to I
want to do a Batman book. And so then again
it's like you know, finding like what is well, what

(25:41):
is my Batman book? And what happened was I had
this idea for a story about like two teenage kids,
and it's like it was the idea was like would
be like a comedy movie that I would write someday
like like you know, like ten Things I Hate about
you or can't hardly wait.

Speaker 9 (25:57):
Like those classic uh teen rom coms.

Speaker 8 (26:01):
But the idea was that, like, there's this hot shot
kid into high school and then a new kid comes,
and the new kid's even more of a hot shot
and like and like and like and like they're so
they have this you know, the rivalry and even though
like everyone else is like you, why you guys should
totally be best friends?

Speaker 9 (26:18):
What's going on here?

Speaker 8 (26:19):
And so I had this kind of this kind of
basic storyline, and I realized, like, oh, what if, like
I took that story one of those kids was Damien
Wayne Robin and and he's like this new kid coming
to this high school and then and then I get
to add Batman and so it kind of came together
like pretty pretty quickly. And so the first book was

(26:39):
kind of establishing the characters the original Batman and Robin
and Howard, and then I had signed on to do
two books with DC.

Speaker 9 (26:45):
So the second book, I was.

Speaker 8 (26:47):
Like, well, there's all these other DC characters I could explore,
and so I was trying to like come up with
an idea and again, like as as we mentioned like
trying to force it, and then I just kept thinking, like,
you know what, like why am I trying to I
really just want to write another Batman and Robin and
Howard book. And so I kind of took some of

(27:08):
the elements of one of the ideas I had and
reworked it for Robin and Howard, and I think the like, again,
this is another book too where I try to bring
in the personal. So like my with their Fader and son,
My my older son was four years old when I
was writing that, and then when I was writing the
when I started working on the Batman and Robin and
Howard stories, my older son was you know, in middle school,

(27:31):
high school, and so so I kind of based Batman
on myself where it's like not that I think I'm cool,
but when I go speak at elementary schools, like the kids,
the kids there think I'm really cool, right, Like they're
like this is this is the guy that wrote these books,
and that's really cool. But my son does not think
I'm cool, Like he's like, oh my god, I am

(27:52):
totally embarrassing to him. And so like that was that
was like kind of the basic ideas, like you know,
it's like Batman is like, he's like so awesome. But
to his teenage son, I was like, oh my gosh, dad,
why do you keep telling everyone you're Batman?

Speaker 3 (28:07):
How did you say that? Reading his book giving me
a whole different perspective. On the rooftop visits, they would
have Batman's like, all right, get up on the rooftop.
You gotta we gotta have a chet. Yeah you know
there's cles down there. No, no, no, listen to me.
You got to listen to your mother, and you.

Speaker 8 (28:20):
Know, yeah, so yeah, I just tried to channel like,
you know, like that great like awkward awkward dad moments,
you know, and then it's it's just yeah, it's fun
to draw Batman and rob.

Speaker 9 (28:32):
It and you're listening to the infant.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Third up on the show. Here is another flashback. Ira Hayden,
who was in Knight Mnomes She Part three. He was
in Father of the Bride. He was in the ol
viral movie Mistress of the Dark. Really fun talking with him.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Man.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
He was on my Halloween episode last year and I
was sticking back. You know how he talks about going
to conventions and stuff, and he had a funny story
about how it was seen from Father the Bride come convention,
somebody brought a prop based on his his scene from
that movie, so let him talk about it. So check
it out here, Ira Hayden here on the Infinite Banter podcast.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
And then then I got to have a small part
in a movie called Father of the Bride.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Man, So Steve Martin is one of my all time
favorite anything. I'm not just comedians. The Jerk is like
my favorite comedy. I have some of his albums And
when I saw that movie, I remember the first time
in that scene with the hot dog buns, were just
going ballistic about the amounts of buns and there just
talk about working with Steve Martin in that movie and

(29:34):
getting that, you know, that role to play that that
scene with him.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
So I'm trying to remember if it was the costume
designer on on Elvira who told me that I should
audition for that movie Father of the Bride. So I
went in and I was put on tape, and then
they brought me back and they they cast me, and
I'm thinking, Okay, you know, I'm not a huge line

(29:59):
or it's like a like a maybe ten pagde scene
or somethinghere our ten ten lines in that scene.

Speaker 9 (30:05):
But I'll do it sure, you know, with Steve Martin, to.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Be you know, on there with him, it'd be amazing because,
like much like you, growing up, he was my favorite comedian.
Him and George Carlin used to watch Steve on Saturday Night.

Speaker 9 (30:19):
Live, you know, wild and crazy guys and excuse me.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Stick yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
So I once I got the job, I was super psyched.
And then my first line in the movie is excuse me, sir,
what are you doing? So I think I'm going to
be funny Mark. And We're going through rehearsal again early
in the morning, seven o'clock or so, and I meet
Steve for the first time, and the director says, all right,
let's just run this rehearsal and action, and so I

(30:52):
yell as loud as I can excuse me, it's yeah,
but nobody else really laughed.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Oh good thing.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
It was.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
It was bad, but I got a smirk out of Steve,
and then U they said all right, let's try it again.

Speaker 9 (31:10):
So but then on I didn't do any silly stuff.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
I'm straight laced now. I'm just gonna do through the line.
And you know what though, I mean, I'm sure Steve
appreciate even though he maybe didn't show an over the
top gesture that he did.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
But yeah, I think I think somewhere deep down he
did appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
That's great. Excuse that's oh man, that's.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
And I've ran into him several times since and how
I usually start my excuse me, Steve, we worked together
on Father Oh yeah, so how are you good to
see you?

Speaker 3 (31:42):
That's great. And he's right about the hot dog bun
count too, So that is a dilemma for many people
who it's a problem.

Speaker 9 (31:49):
Yeah, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
It's a conspiracy. The hot dog people and the buns
people got together.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
And they do they think the American people are just
a bunch of trusting knit with Oh you know something, Mark,
that's at I was at I think again, wasn't No,
it wasn't So. I was in I was in Chicago.
I was at Days of the Dead, and this family
came to me with their uh ten year old uh huh,

(32:15):
and they wanted to record me saying my lines. And
he did the full on Steve Martin lines monologue. He
memorized it all. It was amazing.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Did he bring like a pack of hot dog buns
with him for you to sign no.

Speaker 9 (32:28):
No, he just did the lines. But it was great.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
That's awesome. Yeah. See, and that little scene, you know,
it's just a small part of that movie, but it
resonates years and years later, and I think it it's
just great. That's awesome, and I wish I would have
seen it that days of a dead convention. One of
these days, you'll probably make it back out to Chicago.
There's always an excuse to come out here, man.

Speaker 9 (32:50):
So I'll have I'm sure I will be back.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yes, there you go, speaking of the eighties, we'll be back.
It'll be come in the conventions. There you go. Yes,
you were almost up for that part.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
You just didn't quite know most it just wasn't bulking
up enough.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I'm guessing the main thing you do is get pictures
from like ren ELM. Street, right, the scene with you
and Freddy going at it.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, Hallway, that's pretty much. I'd say about seventy percent.
I have signed a couple of Zapped Again posters. I
have signed a few DVDs from Illegally Yours, and a
bunch of posters for Alvira. I do very like eight
by tens of those. Some some pictures from that movie,

(33:37):
which is great.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
After you did Part three, was there a point where
you started to get recognized or like when you're walking
down the street, maybe someone says, oh, that's that's the guy,
that's the wizard guy from Part three? Was there was
there like a change in you know, your life as
far as that goes.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
I mean not in a huge way, but yeah, when
I especially when I would be out of town, out
of LA because you know, in LA you could see
George glunated Starbucks, Definitely it was like, oh, oh you
were the guy.

Speaker 9 (34:05):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, I liked I loved you in
that movie. You were so good.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
So definitely getting recognized a little more, right, and it's fun.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
It's nice, yeah man. And did you have any idea
if you would be in part four? Was it always
written at your character would not survive three because some
of them went on to part four.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
And yeah, it was always written that way, And Chuck
Russell even said that the editors said that they're not
going to like the fact that they killed me.

Speaker 9 (34:30):
They should have brought me back. But it's all right.
I went out with a with style, I guess.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
The wheelchair was souped up.

Speaker 8 (34:36):
Man.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
It had like spikes on the on the wheels and
it was something straight out of like Pit my right
or something. It was pretty Yeah, it was huge.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
It was a huge They had two of them and
they were huge and heavy.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Man, he definitely gave Freddy the first couple of jabs
in that movie because he went down eventually. So you
got you were the first one to really take a
punch at him.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
So I tried, yeah, because yeah, because I think after
my death, is Jennifer Rubin right with the uh.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's a kid. I
was what we were saying movie eighty seven, so I
was like maybe.

Speaker 9 (35:12):
Yeah. Came out in February eighty seven.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
I think I was like twelve years old or something,
and I remember watching it and I'm like, this is
a drug thing. This is crazy, all right. Yeah, such
a such a great movie. I just remember fondly of
that film and of this Freddy series. It is probably
my favorite. The first one's obviously to win. Most people
like the most. But there's something special about you guys,
you know, with that Part three Dream Warriors movie just
an all time classic.

Speaker 9 (35:35):
Mm hmm, thanks man, Hi, It's Russell Todd.

Speaker 10 (35:37):
I want you to check out Infinite Banter and I
just did a podcast with Mark and you'll know me
from Friday the Thirteenth, Part two, Chopping Mall. He knows
You're alone, Another World, the soap Opera and NBC and
a few other things. So hope you enjoy it.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
It's time for you to leave Aholes.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
That is Kirk Krassovato. Tell me to get the heck
out of here. Need is exactly what I'm going to do.
But as usual, I have one last thing before I go,
before he slams the door on me. So people listening
to this show they know I'm a huge Friday thirteenth
Jason fan. Like Slash movies in general, Jason himself is
that guy.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
For me.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
It's anything he does. I'm watching it. I'm fully aware
that not everybody's a fan or not. Everything that's Jason
related is good, but I don't care, still watch it whatever.
So just recently Angry Orchard and I don't know how
they got involved. It's a alcoholic beverage. First of all,
there's drinks out there. I got to get to my
local binnies and see they have them. Where there's cans

(36:29):
of this Angry Orchard cider with Jason on them. So
I gotta go get some, try it and maybe do
a review on the podcast. Here they are sponsoring this
new fifteen minutes short, So it's fifteen minutes. It's shorter
than this episode you're listening to. You can go on
YouTube just type in Sweet Revenge Jason and you'll find it.
It's not called Friday thirteenth, but it's part of the universe.

(36:51):
It's it's Cannon and it basically is a really quick
story of you know, a bunch of people go to
the camp Crystal Lake and thing happened. I mean, there's
really nothing new in that idea of it. There's a
lot of controversy about the mask. Some people don't like
the mask as much. I think it's fine. I think
they can make it a little bit better. So the
main character in this short, she's on a boat. She

(37:12):
falls into the lake because Jason grabs her, and she
comes out of the lake and you're like, wow, she
made it. She's alive. Not really, she's alive, but she's
like zombifide or something like, she's not normal. And they're
kind of putting out there that The idea is that
Crystal Lake has some sort of like magical powers, that
somebody dies in that lake, they come back as like

(37:33):
this zombie killer, which Jason has been throughout all these
movies and never explained why he doesn't die or you know,
why he survived drownding in that lake, and I think
that's what they're trying to do here, they're setting up
I'm not sure if I'm a fan of this kind
of way of doing it, but it was pretty cool,
and you know, there's some really cool kill scenes in it.
Hard to really get attached to any of the characters.
You only have really like twelve thirteen minutes to even

(37:55):
get to know any of them before the credits are rolling.
So I definitely recommend anybody out there watching if you
got fifteen minutes, go check out Sweet Revenge. I've got
to find some Jason cans from Angry Orchard. I want
to try this stuff. I guess I gotta keep the can.
I guess because he's on the cover of it. So
definitely go check it out. It's on YouTube. It's free,
so you do a lot worse things you could do
with your fifteen minutes and watch a little Jason and

(38:16):
sip something from Angry Orchard. Give me some sponsors Angry
Orchard for saying your name like four times in his podcast.
All right, that's it for me. Definitely go check out
fan Expo when it come to a town near you.
Fanexpo HQ dot com. Big up to them for the
invite to the Fanexpo convention. My thanks to past guest
Jeffrey Brown, Jason Moore, and Ira Hyden. You heard them
in his podcast here. And as cool Kim once accused

(38:39):
me of when I asked him to the drop for
a two hundred episode, Yeah, he just reworks old material
and somehow got to two hundred episodes. Not quite true,
but it is today because this is a rework definitely
recycled material. But whatever, who cares you do six years?
It is the two hundred episodes and then you could
do some reusing of content. I don't see what the

(38:59):
problem with that would be, right, Shout out to my
man Cool Kam. All right, big up everywhere. Check out
the show. You can find that on all podcasts platforms.
Rate and review the show social media at Infinite Banter podcast,
go on YouTube. Type of Infinite Banter. The's episodes on
there and the New Things and Stuff review show where
I talk about bibbleheads and figures and things like that.

(39:22):
So go check me out on there, and check out
the sponsor superseven dot com slash Infinite Banter podcast, Big
Up the Fan Xpo Fanexpo HQ dot com. And so
I do another one of these, trying to find me
something to drinks. Let's go get that Jason Angry Orchard,
all right, I'm.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
Out hey, assol, get off the road. Being on the
Infinite Fana with my man Mark has been a pleasure.
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