March 4, 2025 • 44 mins
Episode 204: In this six year anniversary episode, Mark is joined once again by Hip Hop artist Philmore Greene. Here, we talk about his new album "The Grand Design", the concept behind it, working with various producers, and the meaning behind the cover art. We also discuss past projects like "The Cost of Living" with Apollo Brown, sports, being girl dads and what's next for Philmore.
Check out Philmore Greene on all platforms or link up here- https://ffm.to/granddesign
Mark also reviews the horror movie "The Man In The White Van".
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Check out Philmore Greene on all platforms or link up here- https://ffm.to/granddesign
Mark also reviews the horror movie "The Man In The White Van".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Peace Peace piece. It's your boy Feel More Green. You're
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
It is another episode of the Infinite Banter podcast What
is Happening?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
My name is Mark Jollaf.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Also known as DJ Soundwave. Big up for checking out
the show. Six years of doing this, by the way,
So depending on what date you're listening to, I'm actually
recording it after the dates. So February twenty sixth, twenty
nineteen is when I put out my first episode. It's
the twenty eighth when I'm recording this right here. But
it's been six years since I've been doing this.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I did two hundred episodes a couple of months ago,
so a couple landmarks here with the podcast. So thanks
to everybody's been checking out the show for you know,
whether it's the last couple episodes or all six years,
salute to you. But I definitely want to put out
there that this show has been out for six years.
Been doing my damn thing with this. It's pretty crazy
to think about six years of past that quickly. You know,
that first couple episodes I did, I didn't know how
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many more I was gonna do, and then here we are,
twenty twenty five. Big up to everybody's been checking out
the show, and I've been really excited about doing this
episode here. So it's only fitting that it's on the
six year anniversary of the Infinite Banter Podcast. Got a
returning guest Chicago Zone fillmore Green. He's gonna come on
and talk about The Grand Design, his new album. We'll
talk about some other projects he's done in the past
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as well, like The Cost of Living with Apollo Brown.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
But got a chance to meet him over the week end.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
He was doing an in store at Sugar Records on Milwaukee,
North side of Chicago. Me and my wife went there
and bought the album, gotten to sign it to some pictures,
got to talk with him a little bit, and I
was like, Man, if you ever going to come back
on the podcast, it's been a couple of years, come
on through and here we are. He's coming on today,
so stay tuned for that. Fillmore Green is on the
podcast talking about his new album, The Grand Design. Find
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it on all platforms. Definitely check him out on band
Camp and he's got a lot of great material out there,
and as far as the Chicago hip hop scene goes,
as far as I'm concerned, he's one of the top
ones that you need to be paying attention to.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So if you're.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Unfamiliar with fillmore Green, it's a good episode for you
to jump in.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
But if you're a fan of his, well, here we go.
We're gonna get some more information about the concept of
this album and much much more so stay tuned. Fillmore
Green is in the house on a six year anniversary
of the Infinite Banter Podcast.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
But before we go forward, we go back.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And on my last episode, I had Louis Sincere on here.
He has a new project out as well called Sincettro,
and you can check that out on the last episode.
But here's a clip of Louis talking on that last
podcast here on the Infinite Banter Podcast.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Flat the whole field of this album was to be
very to be more world be with it, and to
definitely show off my versatile my versatile flows and how
I can you know, basically it's.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Me being able to crawl on any beat for this.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Album, That's basically why I decided to have Bring On
you know a lot of producers because it's just, you know,
it's it's it's great having a little bit of everyone
in that art piece, you know what I mean, especially
the people that I've really been rocking with, and of
course even new people I've met, And it's just like
every every single song on every producer that's been on there,
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it's like it's a piece of.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Me as well.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
So it's like we all got to got to have
a piece of this art, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Definitely go back and check out that episode with Louis
Sincere talking about his new album Sincetto. Really had a
good time talking with him, and that last episode was
dedicated to Brian Stinton aka Flying B Chicago radio icon,
who had passed away, who I happened to be friends with,
I went to college with, so definitely wanted to dedicate
that last episode to him. So you've not heard that episode,
go back and check it out and all the two
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hundred plus episodes I've done. And this, like I said earlier,
is the six year anniversary of doing this show, so
big up to everybody's been part of it. Also, later
on in the show. I do want to bring up
a movie that i'd seen. I'd seen a few movies recently,
but there's one in particular I want to talk about.
If you follow the show on Instagram and Threads in
Blue Sky have posted about it on there a couple
of times. It's called The Man in the White Van.
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I want to talk about at the end of the episode.
So anybody's interested to hear about that movie, stay tuned.
I'll talk about that later on. And let's just get
into a film. Moore Green is here. We talk about
the Grand Design, the cost of living, working with Apollo Brown,
and much much more. But this show here to the
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Speaker 3 (05:36):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Fillmore Green is here talking about the Grand Design and
much much more. But before we do anything, the show
never begins, and so the one and only King from
Queens DMC gets on.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
He says this, and now it's official.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yo, yo, what's up?
Speaker 6 (05:48):
This is me DMC to k I and g the
greatest MC in HISTORYAD And right now you're listening to
Infinite Banter because we will banter on forever, because this
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ever be I be Infinite Banter.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
You're checking out the Infinite Banter podcast. Let's go ahead
and play a song from philmore Green before he comes
on here and talks about the new album The Grand Design.
Here's a track from that album, one of my favorite songs.
And I saw the title of this, I knew that
it was something I definitely wanted to hear and I
couldn't wait to get to that track. It's called girl
Dad produced by my guy Big Crown. What's up Big
Crown and this song right here? You know, being a
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girl dad myself, I definitely couldnot wait to hear what
this song was gonna be about, so definitely check it out.
It's a lot of messages and serious meaning in this song,
so definitely pay attention to it. But here we go
out the new album The Grand Design girl Dad from
philmore Green. On the other side of this, or hear
from the man himself about this song, the album and
a whole lot more. So, here we go girl Dad
from philmore Green produced by Big Crown. Here on the
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Infinite Banter podcast, Let's go.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
Yeah, I'm lost in the Land where Nobody dies but
bodies lie Stress cover Kid who's seen shots flyer fatherless sons.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Daddy and his daughters.
Speaker 7 (07:21):
My penbosh the margin like chopo to the border you
wore order flood the foyer I built with queens who
rock locks and wrap the Aauyers lawyer stress for dollars
from kings to a mate of a k town scene
made me harder. I'm smarter than the average cat who
claimed sky. The pain remains. It all starred us. We
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start with love and with butts, but the dashes when
life makes men of us. My daughters are me in
female form. Life is about what you give and not retails.
Warn I'm gucci. We may feel it ain't hard to try.
I'm trying to make millions off of my signature. Karl
Kana I never judged when he do, we all are fried.
I'm the best of alver A Shy and then the
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world Philly got nothing to lose out and lost it.
My true love for my baby girls. You gotta raise them,
let them know no man could change them or range
them in true black love is where they came from.
I'd be the realest to my days done. I never
made sons, two queens is what came from I'm still
lost in the maize run until drive do on the
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ink and make the pays run. Amazed on Philly spent
his days in the sun on blocks were cased.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And there was Phase one. Shorty Mama had to raise funds.
He's seen the blaze of a gun. The city.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Your shys hard to raise sons. I never made none
in this city. Your shy's hard to raise sons. It's
hard to raise sons in the city. Your shop shit shot. Yeah,
in the city, your shy, it's hard to raise sons.
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You never know that pain until you had to get
the grave done.
Speaker 8 (09:02):
Yeah, Yo, what up? It's your boy, Big Crown Music.
You're not listening to Infinite Band of podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You're tuned into the Infinite Banter podcast. I'm DJ Soundwave
and I'm really hyped to bring out my guests and
some of you remember he came on the show a
few years ago. We talked about his albums To Survival,
Scroll and Knowledge and Power. Well, since then, he has
dropped two classics, Costs of Living with Apollo Brown and
more recently, The Grand Design Welcome Back to the Show,
one of Chicago's finance to one and Only Feel More
(09:46):
Green what's going on?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Man? Yes, sir, yes, sir. Great to be back, man,
Great to be back, brother. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, Man, I hope I didn't leaven they albums out
because it feels like it's been going like full throttle
for you, man, the last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
You know, we making whenever it is, man, and we
make it gold out of it. You know, it has
to be none less man. Thank you for wording it
like that. But I'm not working, bro, Just work.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
That's what it's all about. Man, It's Chicago work ethic.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, right off the top, I just want to just
say gratitude and thanks for meeting me and my wife
when we came through on Sunday to Sugar Records for
your meet and greet. You know, it's one thing when
like cats like hit the like button right or put
the fire emoji on your Instagram post. But when you
see the fans up close and personally get to shake
hands with them and sign a record and all that,
what's that like instant gratification for you when you get
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to see them up close and personal.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Man, it's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Man.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
You really get a chance to put you know, we
live in the world where everything is on the internet,
and to really shit down and get a chance to
meet the person who love your music and art whatever
it is right to meet them in person and really
shake their hand and touch the soul and chop it
up with them. I mean, it's a beautiful thing, man,
because you know, especially when you when you have people,
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even to even have listeners is a blessing, you know.
So uh, man, I believe I worked to this point
and it's just a beautiful thing. Bro. Like, it's a
beautiful thing, man. To meet you and your wife and
you know here in the US and go overseas and crazy,
it's just beautiful, man, Like, I love it, and I
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want to do it on a grander scale, man.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Man, you ever sit back and just kind of think about,
like how things have kind of gone for you the
last couple of years. I mean, nobody has a template
for this stuff, right, I mean you make music, you
put out albums, and you know, you hope people, you know,
you have an audience or hope people feel it. But
to be like you said, overseas and working with Apollo
Brown and stuff like that, was there ever any kind
of foresight that maybe this might be where you end up.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
One thing about me, I'm a very confident person, right,
I'm a very confident. I'm a very self motivated person.
You really don't have to get up and push me.
You you know, I'm gonna get up and do it
on my own. I'm very self motivated. So, without saying
it in a real pompous way, I've always visioned myself
and this area and higher, you know what I mean. Like,
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but I know you can visualize anything, but if you
don't put the work in, it means nothing. It's just
the thought, right, you know, everything is attainable, and uh,
that's what I believe in. I approach everything that way.
I look at where I started and where I am now.
I put myself on the back and say, hey, you
did a great job, You're doing a great job. Now
let's go higher there. You never get complacent, you know, man.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
And that comes through with the album the Grand Design,
because I like how when the album starts, it's kind
of giving like a definition of what the Grand Design
is and what it means. And I feel like, you know,
the album kind of takes you to that, you know
where it shows where you're coming and how far you've
reached and how far you're going, right man?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Shout out to my uncle DJ Scrap Dirty, Scrap Dirty,
a pioneer man. He got heavyweight in the game man.
So to have him on the intro, he broke it down.
He's a professional with doing that stuff and he did
it right. You know, he did it right along with
my brother Shay. They they opened the album up and
it was beautiful. So you know, Scrap Dirty Scrap Dirty
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is the one man, He's the one. He's that's unk
right there. You gonna hear this and he's gonna call
me a sap, you know. There it is.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
You can always count on your uncle Ray.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
And throughout the album too for those who are listening
who haven't heard it yet, but get on it, go
check it out. Throughout the album, there's you know a
lot of even in the out show, there's a lot
of people leaving like a message saying, you know, how
how proud they are and how I know how they
know that you're gonna do great things man, and that
that's got to be pretty cool to have them voiced
on here, right? Was that was that the concept I
all along to have different people, you know, kind of
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put their stamp on it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah. That basically this is this album is my the
album for my flower. You know. You know, you show
love to so many people throughout the years. I say, man,
let me, let me give back to me on this one.
And I'm gonna give the people who's listening a great
museum of sound and lyricism that they that they have
heard from me before. But on another level. So the
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flowers represent the people as you hear the skits, they're
giving me my flowers. So that's what they represent. Most
of those people on those skits, people that saw me
from the very beginning, you know. And uh it was
only right. I couldn't get everybody, but you know we
we got room next album design part two right yeah
yeah yeah, So yeah, man, they're giving me my flowers, bro.
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So that's what it's about, you know. That's what all
the skits are about, my loved ones and my close
people to me giving me my flowers, man, and I
appreciate them all.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Man, no doubt next one will be like a greenhouse
or a garden because there'll be more.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Flowers exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Man, I got to give you props on the album.
You know, I'm a vinyl head.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I've been clicking records for years and the record, you know,
it's pink and colors, got the flower looked to it.
Did you have I'm assuming you had a lot to
do with the design of that, right.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I mean me, my team along with uh, you know,
we partnered up with Mellow Music Group. We all came
to the table and we figured it out. You know,
we wanted it to look like we were gonna you know,
I my mind at first went directly to physical art, like,
let's have something. Somebody make an art pete, let's draw it,
you know, and I'll give I'll get props to mic
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Mike Frommello. He was like, man, he threw a couple
of references and chuck and out. We sat down and
we were like, yeah, let's do it. It was I'm
not gonna get a reference he gave. But we had
some you know, some classic albums over the years, and
we just drew inspiration from that and out of side
it's the link up with my brother Tito, very very
great photographer, and uh, we went on my old block
while I grew up, and we made Magic Man and
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that you Haven't Man Grand's Down album. Yeah, album cover
of a decade.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Man, I love that cover. Man, Yeah, it feels it
feels real like Chicago. Man, with the he got the
porch there and the kids and everything and just kind
of sitting out hanging and man, it just took me back.
I grew up in Rogers Park, so we had a
lot of those kind of houses like that with the
three flats or whatever you'd have like the porch or whatever,
you just kind of hang out and watch the kids
playing or doing hopscotch or whatever, double Dutch stuff. Kind
he took me back a little bit because what I
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liked about the covers that it could have been today
or it could have been ten years ago. Like it's
kind of timeless, right.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I mean, yeah, it's very timeless, bro, because the house
on the front cover is the house grew up man in.
The house on on the back cover, there's another house
I grew up in, but across the street my brother
Carlos's crib. He come from that crib one on the front.
Most of my years been in that house. My whole
lineage is on that block and two blocks away. My
whole life, you know, is rooted in that area. But
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I really had to go back and represent that on
this album. It couldn't have been any other way. So
I had to go to my old cribs and go
on the block. The kids on the back, I grew
up with their parents, so they're like family. You know,
we went to the block, We got the kids, and
they got paid for that as well. Oh, they got paid.
They got paid. So they had a day's work with Philmore.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
That's awesome and it's real.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
And then you know with the skits and you know,
like you're talking about like this the historic for you
feeling with those those houses, it sounds like more and
more like this. This album was just kind of like
a coming home for you in a way, you know,
kind of representing where you came from and where you're going.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
So salute man, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Brother. I just man, I'm just getting started. Bro. Things
you're gonna see from me and hear from me are
beyond measures. You know what I'm saying, Like I can't
even word it, Like we're gonna go to the moon. Brother,
I'm just getting started. Man.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Everybody, get ready, get your get your rockets out, because
putting stuff out, the meet and greets gonna be on
Mars next.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
So you know, please like the way this pin is
working on this side. Man, It's just I'm just blessed. Man.
I'm enjoying my blessings and I'm blessed to be able
to use my words the way I do. And I
don't take it for granted, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Man, speaking of the pens. So there's a couple of
lyrics I wanted to bring up. Man.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
First of all, I'm a big Cubs fan. You had
a Cubs codon that day. I saw you at the
record shot. You mentioned Greg Maddox in a record Man.
I was like, yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a sports head brother, Like I'm yeah,
I'm I'm a sports guy. Like I'm not the best
player to play the sports, but I can definitely, you know,
I could cough my shit, and I love sports man,
and sports is like you know, when you play sports, man,
it's nothing like seeing somebody, whether they're the most hyped
up or the underdog, do something they love and really
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showcase this supernatural talent. You know, like football and you
know basketball, watching Steph Curry, he just went for fifty
sixth last night. Man, this is the guy that was
you know, recruited by like one or two colleges. He
was skinny, you know, six' to two and the league
full of giants and still found his way and he
ain't managed to change the game and have arguably the
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biggest impact on the game of. Basketball, ever how could
you not love watching that story trans by a four
or five time CHAMPION MVPs the best three point shoot like?
That sports Are sports are, beautiful. MAN a lot of
people don't just look at it as like a game
when you really watch the, professionals, man it's a beautiful. Experience.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Man i'm old enough to remember his, Dad del with
The Charlotte. LAWRENTZ i don't know if that Means i'm
old or, what BUT i remember him and he could shoot.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Too but, yeah it steps on another.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Level he was nothing like his. Son he was nothing
like his his oldest, boy no, doubt, man something like
his oldest. Boy.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah so everybody listening to make sure you check Out smoked.
That that's the song and there's a video for it
on YouTube and that's where you make The maddix reference and,
omg you also have a video for that. Too talk
about making, videos, man how how much fun it is
to have a visual to kind of, help you, know
push the song a little, bit let people see what
a lot of people are just. Saying they just want
to see things that. Visually and maybe they're not gonna
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sit and listen to a whole, album but the video
might grab, them.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Right, yeah the video grab. Him the video grab you
the new. CONSUMERS i remember my first time Seeing. Davs
it was with a. Video he was ON. Mtv you
could tell he wasn't The dave's he was. Today it
was much, younger but the beat was so, dope and
when the video came, on it left. Me when it went,
(19:51):
OFF i went, searching you know What i'm. SAYING i
went searching for who is this? Guy you know when
they used to have the things on the credits on
the bottom left hand corner of the, SCREEN i was
waiting on the credits BECAUSE i had to go listen
to that record. Again and that video kept me attached
to him for over ten years, now you, KNOW i
don't you, know kept me in the loop with him
(20:12):
for over ten years, Now.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Man without a, Doubt and you think you might do
some more videos from this, Album oh for.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Sure, man this album deserves a video for every record
if you ask, me, right, Man, YEAH i have a
concept for every, record for a video for every, record
but you, know not too many people do. That but, yeah,
man this album is, uh it's definitely one of those. Joints.
MAN i definitely want to get one. Done For money Over.
Vegas we're doing A welcome to The shop video. Soon
(20:41):
that's gonna be your. Beauty it's gonna, beautiful you, know
but definitely, more definitely. MORE i might just do one for.
Everyone you never, KNOW.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I mean money Over.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Vegas that means you're going To vegas, then, Right so
that's an excuse to go To.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Vegas. Nah. Nah for me to actually do that, video,
yeah like, live it would take a huge but you,
know huge, budget huge, budget but, NAH i do something
animated to that. Thing there you, go all there you,
GO i do something. Animated, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Man, well one of my favorite tracks on here you,
know being A Girl dad. MYSELF i saw WHEN i
look at. That every TIME i get an album or
download or, WHATEVER i look at the names of the
songs AND i saw Girl. Dad i'm, like oh, man
AND i already know you're you, know you've got a
daughter and, everything and She i've seen you do pictures
online which she's in the record shop with you and.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Stuff and my daughter's almost.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Six so like WHEN i WHEN i saw that time
Like Matt can with the press play on this thing,
man AND i saw, HIM i got A Big crown
shout out To Big. Crown he's been on the show
here before he produced that. Track talk about that, Record, Man.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Girl dad is one of those. Records. MAN i had
went on a hiatus from. WRITING i had went on
his long hiatus from from putting a pin to the
pad and shout out To Big. Crown Big crown is
one of those. Guys you, know we don't really kick,
it we don't really See we probably met maybe three,
times but he's one of those. Guys he'll flood My
My my text is with. Beats and WHEN i heard that,
(22:03):
BEAT i instantly told, them, like you, know don't do
anything to that one because it just it sounded like
a beat of. Peace it sounds the beat sounds like
peace to. Me SO i would just listen to the
beat for a, while and when it was ready for
me to end my, HIATUS i just put that pin
in the pad AND i let everything. Go you, KNOW
i let everything go on the page and it came out.
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Beautiful my Brother, chuck he came up with the title
and that we have. It, Man Girl, Dad, Man Girl
dad's the last record is the perfect record in the
album with and, uh you, KNOW i got beautiful, Girls,
MAN i got beautiful. Girls And i'm proud of.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
It.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Man shout out to all the girl dads out.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
There, yeah, man and even even the boy dads or,
both you, know BECAUSE i mean there's a message in
that song, too you. Know and you, know, man it
JUST i played it before talking to you, here and
it just hit me, again like every TIME i hear,
IT i hear like something new in. It MAYBE i
didn't catch the first. Time AND i think even told
me WHEN i mention On sunday That big crown sends you,
(23:02):
like you, know a whole bunch of beats and you
know one of them will just speak to you in
that way and.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Something that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Here all the, time all the, time all the, Time Big.
Crowns you, know it's so many producers that reach out to. Me,
MAN i got so many beats in my hard. Drive you,
Know i'm gonna get to the bulk of. Them but
some beats you get when you hear, them you just
have to be urging about it because it just touched your,
soul you, Know and that's what Girl dad did for.
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Me Big. Crown he's obviously a hard working. Guy he
has a catalog of beats and he wants to. Work
that's what film is. About. MAN i just don't want
to stop, working, right don't want to stop.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Working And i'm sure that's the thing that happens a
lot too with a lot of. Artists you, know they
get a lot of beats and maybe today's not the
day you use that beat you put in a. Folder
maybe six months from, now you're from, now something will
speak to you from that and you, know get the
pen writing.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Again Right, man you may give me a beat AND
i might not putting an out of out for it
for three, years Bro. Right it's just the way it,
goes Man like when you make an, albums, man if
it's not with a single, producer the all the records
we recorded For cost Of living With Apollo brown is not.
Out oh, wow you get What i'm. Saying so we
got like four records that didn't make. It SO i
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might not get to a beat for two. Years it
has to hit me like unless it's one of those.
Joints other than, THAT i have to pace, it LIKE
i got so many beats and there's so many Things i'm.
Doing it may take it may take a. While not
saying that the beat is, trash but it's just like
it could be the best beat in the. World IF
i don't feel it, right Then i'm not gonna get
to it. Right BUT i am gonna tell a, producer,
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man keep that on. Ice don't set out to anybody.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Else right, right make sure no one else gets it
first for.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Sure but you know that.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
That brings me to WHAT i was gonna ask, You
is it it cost of? Living you worked with A
Polo brown and then this Album Grand design numerous producers on.
It is there like any kind of difference as far
as like working with one producer you kind of said
it a little, bit or as far as working with
like five or six different. Producers is there like A
i don't, know it's harder for you to put songs
together when it's multiple producers like, that or.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
No it's not harder to put the song, Together but it's.
Nothing it's hard about anything when you're working with several.
Producers it's a lot that comes with. Sequencing you have
to make the it has to be some cohesiveness behind,
it opposed to one. Producer this one producer has the
same style and feel and warmth or whatever the beats,
do the producer has. It so working with one producer
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is much easier because you got you got the vibe already.
Set it's just about. Now all you gotta do is.
Pain but when you're working with other, producers you, know
it's it's like you got to put this collades of
music together and make it cohesive and it has to make.
Sense so which one DO i like out of the?
TWO i just like making. Music, man don't matter WHEN
i work with producers man or producers work with me
(25:47):
or however you want a, WORD i like to get
in their. WORLD i like to see HOW i fit
in in their, world, right you, Know like writ into
An apollo brown beat is a different approach from writing
to a rashiet ha d. Beat you get What i'm.
Saying so it's just just, different you.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Know going back to, sports it's like playing with different, teammates,
RIGHT i, mean maybe you know this player is more
you know better shooting. Threes this one's more down below
maybe like. That so you got to learn how to
play with different, people and therefore it sharpens you because
you've got to be more versatile with different producers and
things like. That so actually that that kind of makes
more sense that. Way so, yeah, Man so there it
is killing it, Man. Yeah, Man and you, know going
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back To cost Of, LIVING i wanted to bring up
one track from that, album, Man Time. GOES i remember
that was my favorite song WHEN i first heard the
album and playing it like today BECAUSE i lost a
couple of people recently AND i hear that, Song it's
like it just takes me to like another. Place, man
it just hits, differently you know WHAT i. Mean so
talk about that, record, man and what kind of reaction
you got from you, know songs like, that you, know
work with a polo brown, MAN i love that, Album.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Dude Tom goes is one of the records. Man it
really means a lot to me because of the substance behind.
It it's one of those records where they love it
WHEN i performed it. Overseas it's one of those records
where you know it may you really pay. Attention Mine
Time goals is really about the change within the world
and filling the shift when you're coming from boyhood to,
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manhood from manhood to the highest form of. Adulthood you,
know it's about that shift in. Life you, know WHEN i,
lived when it was a time where no one had a.
Device it was one. Phone we used one, phone and
that was in the. House when it came time to WATCH.
Tv we watched television. Together we ate dinner, together you,
(27:29):
know we went outside to. Play and now everyone's stuck
to a. Device everyone's you, Know i'll be at the
table eating with my. Daughter she has an, iPad you
know WHAT i. Mean, like it's just. Different. Man it
talks about the changes in life and the shifts in,
life and it's a great introspective. Record of, Course i'm
gonna say, that But Time goals is my highest performing
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record to. Date oh, MAN i predict that record to
be in movies. SOMEDAY i don't know what type of,
movie BUT i predict that to be in some, performer
some type of move.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Man that just makes it even next level here in that,
man that would be pretty. Cool And i'm aldough to
remember when WHEN i was a, KID i was the answering.
Machine we had to like the person to call the
house and be, like, yeah my mom's in the.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Shower at eight o'clock at. Night you had to, lie you.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Know you, see you didn't have an answer machine or
an iPhone or whatever where you could ignore a.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Call, yeah get a, text.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
You, know answering. Machine, yeah, man the CALL I D
AND i remember those, days, Man but now it's just
like everybody has. Access you have a phone on your,
waist you have your life on your. Waist you can
really lay in your bed all day and control your whole, career,
right you know WHAT i? Mean, yeah off of your.
Phone it's.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Crazy it's crazy to think about.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
It control my whole life off of my phone and
not move.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Man that sounds.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Great, yeah it's, like think about. It you can you
can pay, bills you can send, money you can order.
Groceries you you can stay in one room and control
your whole life all through your cell. Phone.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
MAN i just bought shoes on the phone the other,
Day like just laying there looking at shoes all day
and if they don't, Fit i'll send them back and.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Whatever but it's, like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
You, know back, then we had to go to the.
Stores we had to go write letters and put a
stamp on it and put it in a we sound
and all the Ship, yeah these are just the, time
you know What i'm, Saying, like that's what we used
to have to. Do and it's, like, man the all
times have. Changed. Bro it's a blessing to be in
this day and age and see the ships and to
see my daughters grow and my family, grow and it's
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just something. New it's something great about. It. Man So
I'm i'm blessed. Bro. Yeah, Man Time goes is that.
Record it's about life and it's transition.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Without a, doubt and it makes you realize where you
had things differently and where you are.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Now you.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Know you, KNOW i can appreciate technology and things like
that BECAUSE i forgot what it was like to have
to be in front of A tv to watch something
at the time it was on or you're, done you.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Know so it's it's it's cool for us to see.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
It in that, light you, know, Like, okay this is
how things have change for the younger. Generation you, know
they don't know about the. Struggle you, know you don't, know.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
But it's, okay really.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Don't, Man BEFORE i let you. GO i wanted to
bring up another line from the new Album Grand. Design
we're talking with Philmore. Green make sure you go check
out The Grand, design by the, way they can find
it on band.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Camp but is it on all platforms as?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Well, yeah it's definitely on all platforms as well as band.
Camp you, know just type my, name, man, bro you're
gonna get that. Out.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah there's a lot of stuff that he's done in the,
Past like we talked about the, intro survival scroll and
knowledge and, power everything like.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
That there's a line you said at the very end OF.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Omg IF i can't not bring this, up you, said
push the reel into the fake shit is obsolete and that.
One of, course being an old head LIKE i, am
you know there's new. Music of COURSE i was thinking like.
That but to be, honest what you're saying, is, like you,
know the, conscious the real stuff needs needs a, voice
needs a.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Platform man speak on that lyric.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
There, man it's just a bunch of oversaturated, bullshit you,
Know but how could you knock the next man from
feeding his. Family whatever it, takes and if it, works
you gotta respect. It but it's coming back, around coming
back around to the realness coming back around to when
you know you really had to put that pin of
that pad and really show that you can go right
(31:12):
coming back around to. That you, know we just watched
the biggest art rapper in the world who's a conscious
rapper right, now and he performed at the Super, bowl
and there was an underlining message under, it, Right it
was a message under the whole. Performance so it's coming back, around.
Bro like it was no popcorn, shit you know WHAT i? Mean, like,
(31:33):
no not at, all, man you feel.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Me the visuals and everything with you, know everybody dressed
up with the shirts and to make the flag and
every and all, that and there's so much going on.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
There it was.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
LAYERED i, MEAN i don't even know IF i caught
everything they were. Doing that's what's so great about. It
it was more than just hear's some songs, to you,
know turn your brain off while we wait for football
to come.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Back that was something.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Else. Man, man it was. Heavy so it's always, beautiful,
Man it's always a beautiful.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Thing everybody, listening make sure you check out Philmore. Green
he already told you he's going other places with, this
so you, know make sure you stay tuned where can
they follow you ON i know you're on Ig let
him know where they can follow you On instagram and
other places like, that and even get the record and
merch and all that all.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Places P H I L M O R e and
green with AN e at the. End the grand design
out now out. Everywhere go smack that button and get that,
vinyl get that Pink rolls edition, man and, yeah, man it's.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Beautiful everybody needs to get. IT i.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
WAS i was so geeked WHEN i opened it BECAUSE
i didn't know it was pink UNTIL i got. HOME
i was, like oh, shit look at this nice and
The cost Of LIVING i think is. Green i'm trying
to remember WHEN i pulled it. OUT i think it
was a green vinyl, Too so that's another. One, yeah,
YEAH i got the green. One that's just, dope. MAN
i like physical. MEDIA i stole some stuff on my.
PHONE i do it all the. Time but having a
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record in your hand is just just something.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Else man's green and the Red. Man it's. Beautiful.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Man what can they expect next from? You feel? More
what's what's coming up that you could? Promote more?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Music, man more, Music. Man i'm working on another. PROJECT
i don't know when it's coming, out but, uh you,
know more, music, man like music and some other things
THAT i won't even talk about right. Now But i'm always.
Working my mind is always. Thinking definitely more, music, man
but for right, now until we get to that. Point
(33:18):
The Grand design on all streaming, Platforms, Man Infinite banter. Podcast,
Baby oh there it.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Is, YEAH i, SEE i got a little promo there
to even know. It, man believe that feel More.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Green check out the new Album The Grand design following.
ONLINE i mean, this this album is tremendous and of
course the cost of living another one THAT i remember
WHEN i first saw you work With Apollo, BROWN i was, like,
okay all, right upper echelon here we're. Something something's going big.
Here So, man just just salute for coming through here
and showing me some your. Time AND i respect you coming.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Through in the. Podcast, man it's just the honor having
you back on.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Here, Dude thank you for having.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Me you got it feel More Green The Grand.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Design everybody, listening go check it, out don't sleep and once,
again things again for coming on the.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Podcast, man appreciate.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
You appreciate you, brother big.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Big up To Fillmore green for coming on the, show
had a great time talking with, Him so everybody out,
there make sure you go check out The Grand design
and he has a lot of projects out there that
if you listen to the EPISODE i did with him
a few years, back we're talking about The Survival scroll
and that was something that blew my mind back, then you,
know three or four years, ago and ever since, then
it's just like the level of the bar keeps going
up and up and, up and you know the album
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with The Pollo, Brown The cost Of, living and now
this one, here he just keeps raising that bar and
he's just doing, bigger bigger things every. Time so definitely
go follow him, online check out his band, cam check
out everything he's got out, there and you, know go
grab a record or A cd from. Him and definitely
a big salute to Fillmore. Green definitely rep In chicago
in the best way. POSSIBLE i do want to play
a track here from his previous Album Don't Want To Pollo,
(34:47):
brown Called The cost Of. Living we talked about this
song in particular in the, interview and it's Called Time
Goes AND i remember when that album came, out it
was easily one of my favorite songs on the, album
and you, know WHEN i play it, now LIKE i,
said it kind of hits a little bit. Different SO
i want people who are, listening maybe who haven't heard
this song, before go ahead and check it. Out and you,
know a lot of times the musical guests on, here you,
know we kind of focus on the one, album but
(35:07):
he's got so many albums out THAT i actually want
to kind of branch out a bit and reintroduce you
guys to a couple of.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Albums Right so here.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
You go from The cost Of, Living Apollo brown And Fillmore.
Green this right, here it's called time Goes. Here on
The Infinite banter, Podcast.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
Tom golfs go, yeah Because tom go. Yeah look back
(35:51):
when Ent tame and with shared at the same, time
we all moved to the same, Tune saint, rhyms same
drop of a. Dome we shared memory site was. Precious
now withadays it seems kind of. HECTIC i guess over
the past fifty years we get a shift on this
planet when new times. Come the Old vanish granted used
to feed the whole crib.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Man we never went. Famished go get you a.
Speaker 7 (36:13):
Switch if you was managed FROM tv guides To Yellow.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
PAGES i seen hello. Phases today's life insurance is phone.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
Cases sure these in pamphles would not pad the. Basics
everybody want a shot.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
In the face for a.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
Facelift if we could switch, it it would seem so
odd picturing our g moda When Felicia. Rasha just Imagine
CARDY b Was Jeff BEAUTY o the week. RESPECTFULLY i
bet the times is changing as we. Speak come, on come,
on where at the time?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Go time?
Speaker 7 (36:43):
GO i gotta catch. Up i'm stuck in the times?
Off where did the time?
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Go time?
Speaker 7 (36:49):
Go it's like the whole world stuck and he's our faults.
Man what happened to the time to the? Time it's
like a brower needs you never relied the time, goal time.
Goal you gotta live to get. All my ain'teen used
to slam on the burnouts with those brick phones where
you from get a cold go and pick you as
(37:09):
on seven seventy three the organic? Times what's having? Lea
it's like the whole world's forgetting this pet of. Three
we went from boomboxes dancing the hippop to who got
the ox dancing for. Ticktoms my granny used to make
us go back and fight more like if you, lose
don't come back through my. Doors i'm just reflecting on
(37:29):
the basics of. Life then the tables with the, fan
we all take a device where the television sitcoms with
morals at the. End then now it's ripped the reality
for tension part Of. Philly AS i age, Myself i'm
stuck in my, ways amazed by this phase. Myself, LISTEN
i ain't ashamed to learn and shift and. Grow you
(37:49):
gotta live to get old because time.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Goes time.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
Go where if the time, goal time, GO i gotta catch.
Up i'm stuck in the times on the time, go time.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Go it's like the whole world stuck in these our.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
Faults, man what happened to the time to the.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Time it's like a BROW i needs you never read
line with? It the time, goal time. Go you gotta
live to get. Old time go.
Speaker 9 (38:16):
Go, yoe it's your, boy or Maybe i'm not your,
boy but.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
It's Big spence rocking with my Boy.
Speaker 9 (38:32):
Mark you know What i'm. Saying infinite, dancing you mean
check them?
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Out time for you to leave.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Assholds that is Kirk osa. Video tell me to get
the hell out of, here and that is exactly What
i'm going to. Do but BEFORE i do, THAT i
got a couple of quick THINGS i did want to
mention too that you, know when we met Fillmore, green
me and my wife at the record store up in you,
know north side Of, Chicago Sugar. Records go find them
if you've never been, there go check them. Out really cool.
Spot but she was looking at all the records and
how much they they're selling them, for OR i trying
(39:00):
to explain her, like, yeah this is different than you,
know buying like A cd or. Something records are not
just a hobby for some.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
People it's a.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Commodity it's it's a it's almost like an. Investment and
she's looking at the prices of some of these, things
And i'm just.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Like, yeah you, KNOW i got all those records at.
HOME i have some of.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
These, now they're not all shrink wrapped in perfect condition
and pristine like the ones you see. Here but STILL
i think what it did for me and anybody out
there real windows What i'm talking. About you collect, records
or you collect anything for that, matter and if you
have a wife or a girlfriend or somebody who kind
of scratched their head it's, like why are you collecting this?
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Stuff what do you have?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
It it always helps validate why you're doing it with somebody, sees,
oh there's a there's a value for, this there's a supply.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
And a demand for, this like people want this. Stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Now it doesn't mean that she's talking me into selling,
them not, yet but it has come.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Up you, know how many DO i?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Have what are they?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
WORTH i don't. KNOW i don't even know how to
answer that. QUESTION i don't even want to answer that
question because they're not for. Sale but it was cool to,
see you, know her her experience in our record store like,
That she's never really been in anything like that, before
and to see, like oh my, god you, know she's
looking For Celene dion records And i'm trying to, find you,
know some old De las soul record or. Something so
(40:12):
it's kind of. Funny BUT i think they did have
A Selene dion record in. THERE i don't remember what
it costs because we weren't buying.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
It, whatever you know WHAT i.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Mean SO i tease that at the, BEGINNING i want
to talk about this movie Called The man in The
White van and it's From legion M they distribute, it you,
know and they put out a lot of good movies
in the past and a lot of independent, stuff and
it's very it's kind of like Band, camp like they're
a company that is about the fans and supporting the.
Artists and you, Know i'm a horror fan AND i
(40:41):
like anything that's got a slasher thriller. Vibe and then
you put it in like a decade like the, Seventies,
Well i'm all. IN i, mean that's. It that's that's my.
Lane i'm not gonna get too detailed about, it but
definitely go check it. OUT i saw it On Amazon.
Prime it's on some other platforms as, well BUT i
definitely saw it On Amazon. Prime and it's basically if
you like the idea that In, halloween if you, Remember
(41:03):
Michael myers was driving around in that it wasn't a
what kind of car was that he was driving around
in that hearst or whatever it. Was it was like
looked like a family car, Almost but eventually he got
out the car and was, stalking you, Know Jamie Lee
curtis's Character lorie strode by foot, right he was standing
by bushes and by laundry and.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Stuff but the beginning he was in a.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Car this this movie is kind of like if the
killer never got out the. Car you just see a
white van and he's just sitting in. There you never
really see what he looks. Like, ACTUALLY i don't think
you ever see what he looks like in the whole.
Movie that idea of being stalked is something that always scares. Me,
like that's something That i've talked about here. Before you,
know WHEN i just take the train late at night
or walking down a street or, something nothing ever happened to,
me BUT i was, always you, know keep my head
(41:42):
on a. Squivel you, KNOW i never know what's behind,
me what's coming. Next so it's down this, alley, Right
so that, idea to me is more scary than. Anything
i'm not really somebody who watches something for the gore
and all. THAT i just like the suspense and the
idea that this could happen to. Me so that's what
usually scares me about. It right, now this this movie's
a little bit. Tamed a lot of, GORE i, mean
but there's a lot of stuff that happens in, it
(42:03):
and apparently it's based on a true. STORY i don't
know how much of it is, true but if you
go seek it, out definitely check it. Out it's a
little bit. Long it takes a little while to get.
GOING i do like how they showed the different years
leading up to the current, time so that his current
time was nineteen seventy FIVE i believe was seventy, six
but it showed like in one year he abducted, someone
in one, year he abducted someone else in another, year
(42:24):
and it kind of showed the build up to the
point where you're actually at the story quote unquote in
real time and you don't really know what his motives.
Are maybe that might be something that might turn you
off to it because they don't really get into, it
but just the idea that there's some do in the.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Van he's just sitting, there and he probably ruined vans.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
For, everybody BECAUSE i, mean after, that you, know you
saw a van around the, corner you weren't supposed to
get into, it you, know he were.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Supposed to go in that car at.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
All you.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Know kind of remind me of Death proof if you
remember that, movie That tarantino movie some years, back you,
know guy stalking somebody in a. Car the same kind
of idea but he used the car as a. Weapon this,
one the guy just in the van just kind of
creeping out and then eventually he gets out the van
and tries to put you in. There LIKE i, said
it kind of felt like if you took The Michael
myers aspect driving around to the car and stalking, you
but do that for the whole. Movie that's the whole.
(43:07):
Thing so definitely go check it. Out The man in
The White van has a cool name to. It if,
anything the titles should get you. Interested it's got some
people you've seen in other movies, before Like Ellie. Larder
Sean aston's in. It they played the. Parents definitely go
check it. Out it's pretty.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Tame you could watch it if you're a. Teenager BUT
i liked.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
It it's definitely up my alley slash your film from
the seventies in a theme that's All i'm all over.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
That give me that kind of movie. Anytime but all,
right that said for.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Me The Infinite Banter podcast six years in the books
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Also known as DJ Soundwave. Big up for checking out
the show. Six years of doing this, by the way,
So depending on what date you're listening to, I'm actually
recording it after the dates. So February twenty sixth, twenty
nineteen is when I put out my first episode. It's
the twenty eighth when I'm recording this right here. But
it's been six years since I've been doing this.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
You know.
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I did two hundred episodes a couple of months ago,
so a couple landmarks here with the podcast. So thanks
to everybody's been checking out the show for you know,
whether it's the last couple episodes or all six years,
salute to you. But I definitely want to put out
there that this show has been out for six years.
Been doing my damn thing with this. It's pretty crazy
to think about six years of past that quickly. You know,
that first couple episodes I did, I didn't know how
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many more I was gonna do, and then here we are,
twenty twenty five. Big up to everybody's been checking out
the show, and I've been really excited about doing this
episode here. So it's only fitting that it's on the
six year anniversary of the Infinite Banter Podcast. Got a
returning guest Chicago Zone fillmore Green. He's gonna come on
and talk about The Grand Design, his new album. We'll
talk about some other projects he's done in the past
(01:55):
as well, like The Cost of Living with Apollo Brown.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
But got a chance to meet him over the week end.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
He was doing an in store at Sugar Records on Milwaukee,
North side of Chicago. Me and my wife went there
and bought the album, gotten to sign it to some pictures,
got to talk with him a little bit, and I
was like, Man, if you ever going to come back
on the podcast, it's been a couple of years, come
on through and here we are. He's coming on today,
so stay tuned for that. Fillmore Green is on the
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it on all platforms. Definitely check him out on band
Camp and he's got a lot of great material out there,
and as far as the Chicago hip hop scene goes,
as far as I'm concerned, he's one of the top
ones that you need to be paying attention to.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So if you're.
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Unfamiliar with fillmore Green, it's a good episode for you
to jump in.
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But if you're a fan of his, well, here we go.
We're gonna get some more information about the concept of
this album and much much more so stay tuned. Fillmore
Green is in the house on a six year anniversary
of the Infinite Banter Podcast.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
But before we go forward, we go back.
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And on my last episode, I had Louis Sincere on here.
He has a new project out as well called Sincettro,
and you can check that out on the last episode.
But here's a clip of Louis talking on that last
podcast here on the Infinite Banter Podcast.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Flat the whole field of this album was to be
very to be more world be with it, and to
definitely show off my versatile my versatile flows and how
I can you know, basically it's.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Me being able to crawl on any beat for this.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Album, That's basically why I decided to have Bring On
you know a lot of producers because it's just, you know,
it's it's it's great having a little bit of everyone
in that art piece, you know what I mean, especially
the people that I've really been rocking with, and of
course even new people I've met, And it's just like
every every single song on every producer that's been on there,
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it's like it's a piece of.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Me as well.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
So it's like we all got to got to have
a piece of this art, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Definitely go back and check out that episode with Louis
Sincere talking about his new album Sincetto. Really had a
good time talking with him, and that last episode was
dedicated to Brian Stinton aka Flying B Chicago radio icon,
who had passed away, who I happened to be friends with,
I went to college with, so definitely wanted to dedicate
that last episode to him. So you've not heard that episode,
go back and check it out and all the two
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big up to everybody's been part of it. Also, later
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but there's one in particular I want to talk about.
If you follow the show on Instagram and Threads in
Blue Sky have posted about it on there a couple
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(04:27):
I want to talk about at the end of the episode.
So anybody's interested to hear about that movie, stay tuned.
I'll talk about that later on. And let's just get
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Let's get into it.
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Fillmore Green is here talking about the Grand Design and
much much more. But before we do anything, the show
never begins, and so the one and only King from
Queens DMC gets on.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
He says this, and now it's official.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yo, yo, what's up?
Speaker 6 (05:48):
This is me DMC to k I and g the
greatest MC in HISTORYAD And right now you're listening to
Infinite Banter because we will banter on forever, because this
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ever be I be Infinite Banter.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
You're checking out the Infinite Banter podcast. Let's go ahead
and play a song from philmore Green before he comes
on here and talks about the new album The Grand Design.
Here's a track from that album, one of my favorite songs.
And I saw the title of this, I knew that
it was something I definitely wanted to hear and I
couldn't wait to get to that track. It's called girl
Dad produced by my guy Big Crown. What's up Big
Crown and this song right here? You know, being a
(06:27):
girl dad myself, I definitely couldnot wait to hear what
this song was gonna be about, so definitely check it out.
It's a lot of messages and serious meaning in this song,
so definitely pay attention to it. But here we go
out the new album The Grand Design girl Dad from
philmore Green. On the other side of this, or hear
from the man himself about this song, the album and
a whole lot more. So, here we go girl Dad
from philmore Green produced by Big Crown. Here on the
(06:48):
Infinite Banter podcast, Let's go.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
Yeah, I'm lost in the Land where Nobody dies but
bodies lie Stress cover Kid who's seen shots flyer fatherless sons.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Daddy and his daughters.
Speaker 7 (07:21):
My penbosh the margin like chopo to the border you
wore order flood the foyer I built with queens who
rock locks and wrap the Aauyers lawyer stress for dollars
from kings to a mate of a k town scene
made me harder. I'm smarter than the average cat who
claimed sky. The pain remains. It all starred us. We
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start with love and with butts, but the dashes when
life makes men of us. My daughters are me in
female form. Life is about what you give and not retails.
Warn I'm gucci. We may feel it ain't hard to try.
I'm trying to make millions off of my signature. Karl
Kana I never judged when he do, we all are fried.
I'm the best of alver A Shy and then the
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world Philly got nothing to lose out and lost it.
My true love for my baby girls. You gotta raise them,
let them know no man could change them or range
them in true black love is where they came from.
I'd be the realest to my days done. I never
made sons, two queens is what came from I'm still
lost in the maize run until drive do on the
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ink and make the pays run. Amazed on Philly spent
his days in the sun on blocks were cased.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And there was Phase one. Shorty Mama had to raise funds.
He's seen the blaze of a gun. The city.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Your shys hard to raise sons. I never made none
in this city. Your shy's hard to raise sons. It's
hard to raise sons in the city. Your shop shit shot. Yeah,
in the city, your shy, it's hard to raise sons.
(08:57):
You never know that pain until you had to get
the grave done.
Speaker 8 (09:02):
Yeah, Yo, what up? It's your boy, Big Crown Music.
You're not listening to Infinite Band of podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You're tuned into the Infinite Banter podcast. I'm DJ Soundwave
and I'm really hyped to bring out my guests and
some of you remember he came on the show a
few years ago. We talked about his albums To Survival,
Scroll and Knowledge and Power. Well, since then, he has
dropped two classics, Costs of Living with Apollo Brown and
more recently, The Grand Design Welcome Back to the Show,
one of Chicago's finance to one and Only Feel More
(09:46):
Green what's going on?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Man? Yes, sir, yes, sir. Great to be back, man,
Great to be back, brother. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, Man, I hope I didn't leaven they albums out
because it feels like it's been going like full throttle
for you, man, the last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
You know, we making whenever it is, man, and we
make it gold out of it. You know, it has
to be none less man. Thank you for wording it
like that. But I'm not working, bro, Just work.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
That's what it's all about. Man, It's Chicago work ethic.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, right off the top, I just want to just
say gratitude and thanks for meeting me and my wife
when we came through on Sunday to Sugar Records for
your meet and greet. You know, it's one thing when
like cats like hit the like button right or put
the fire emoji on your Instagram post. But when you
see the fans up close and personally get to shake
hands with them and sign a record and all that,
what's that like instant gratification for you when you get
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to see them up close and personal.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Man, it's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Man.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
You really get a chance to put you know, we
live in the world where everything is on the internet,
and to really shit down and get a chance to
meet the person who love your music and art whatever
it is right to meet them in person and really
shake their hand and touch the soul and chop it
up with them. I mean, it's a beautiful thing, man,
because you know, especially when you when you have people,
(10:54):
even to even have listeners is a blessing, you know.
So uh, man, I believe I worked to this point
and it's just a beautiful thing. Bro. Like, it's a
beautiful thing, man. To meet you and your wife and
you know here in the US and go overseas and crazy,
it's just beautiful, man, Like, I love it, and I
(11:16):
want to do it on a grander scale, man.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Man, you ever sit back and just kind of think about,
like how things have kind of gone for you the
last couple of years. I mean, nobody has a template
for this stuff, right, I mean you make music, you
put out albums, and you know, you hope people, you know,
you have an audience or hope people feel it. But
to be like you said, overseas and working with Apollo
Brown and stuff like that, was there ever any kind
of foresight that maybe this might be where you end up.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
One thing about me, I'm a very confident person, right,
I'm a very confident. I'm a very self motivated person.
You really don't have to get up and push me.
You you know, I'm gonna get up and do it
on my own. I'm very self motivated. So, without saying
it in a real pompous way, I've always visioned myself
and this area and higher, you know what I mean. Like,
(12:00):
but I know you can visualize anything, but if you
don't put the work in, it means nothing. It's just
the thought, right, you know, everything is attainable, and uh,
that's what I believe in. I approach everything that way.
I look at where I started and where I am now.
I put myself on the back and say, hey, you
did a great job, You're doing a great job. Now
let's go higher there. You never get complacent, you know, man.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
And that comes through with the album the Grand Design,
because I like how when the album starts, it's kind
of giving like a definition of what the Grand Design
is and what it means. And I feel like, you know,
the album kind of takes you to that, you know
where it shows where you're coming and how far you've
reached and how far you're going, right man?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Shout out to my uncle DJ Scrap Dirty, Scrap Dirty,
a pioneer man. He got heavyweight in the game man.
So to have him on the intro, he broke it down.
He's a professional with doing that stuff and he did
it right. You know, he did it right along with
my brother Shay. They they opened the album up and
it was beautiful. So you know, Scrap Dirty Scrap Dirty
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is the one man, He's the one. He's that's unk
right there. You gonna hear this and he's gonna call
me a sap, you know. There it is.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
You can always count on your uncle Ray.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
And throughout the album too for those who are listening
who haven't heard it yet, but get on it, go
check it out. Throughout the album, there's you know a
lot of even in the out show, there's a lot
of people leaving like a message saying, you know, how
how proud they are and how I know how they
know that you're gonna do great things man, and that
that's got to be pretty cool to have them voiced
on here, right? Was that was that the concept I
all along to have different people, you know, kind of
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put their stamp on it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah. That basically this is this album is my the
album for my flower. You know. You know, you show
love to so many people throughout the years. I say, man,
let me, let me give back to me on this one.
And I'm gonna give the people who's listening a great
museum of sound and lyricism that they that they have
heard from me before. But on another level. So the
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flowers represent the people as you hear the skits, they're
giving me my flowers. So that's what they represent. Most
of those people on those skits, people that saw me
from the very beginning, you know. And uh it was
only right. I couldn't get everybody, but you know we
we got room next album design part two right yeah
yeah yeah, So yeah, man, they're giving me my flowers, bro.
(14:15):
So that's what it's about, you know. That's what all
the skits are about, my loved ones and my close
people to me giving me my flowers, man, and I
appreciate them all.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Man, no doubt next one will be like a greenhouse
or a garden because there'll be more.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Flowers exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Man, I got to give you props on the album.
You know, I'm a vinyl head.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I've been clicking records for years and the record, you know,
it's pink and colors, got the flower looked to it.
Did you have I'm assuming you had a lot to
do with the design of that, right.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I mean me, my team along with uh, you know,
we partnered up with Mellow Music Group. We all came
to the table and we figured it out. You know,
we wanted it to look like we were gonna you know,
I my mind at first went directly to physical art, like,
let's have something. Somebody make an art pete, let's draw it,
you know, and I'll give I'll get props to mic
(15:04):
Mike Frommello. He was like, man, he threw a couple
of references and chuck and out. We sat down and
we were like, yeah, let's do it. It was I'm
not gonna get a reference he gave. But we had
some you know, some classic albums over the years, and
we just drew inspiration from that and out of side
it's the link up with my brother Tito, very very
great photographer, and uh, we went on my old block
while I grew up, and we made Magic Man and
(15:24):
that you Haven't Man Grand's Down album. Yeah, album cover
of a decade.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Man, I love that cover. Man, Yeah, it feels it
feels real like Chicago. Man, with the he got the
porch there and the kids and everything and just kind
of sitting out hanging and man, it just took me back.
I grew up in Rogers Park, so we had a
lot of those kind of houses like that with the
three flats or whatever you'd have like the porch or whatever,
you just kind of hang out and watch the kids
playing or doing hopscotch or whatever, double Dutch stuff. Kind
he took me back a little bit because what I
(15:50):
liked about the covers that it could have been today
or it could have been ten years ago. Like it's
kind of timeless, right.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I mean, yeah, it's very timeless, bro, because the house
on the front cover is the house grew up man in.
The house on on the back cover, there's another house
I grew up in, but across the street my brother
Carlos's crib. He come from that crib one on the front.
Most of my years been in that house. My whole
lineage is on that block and two blocks away. My
whole life, you know, is rooted in that area. But
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I really had to go back and represent that on
this album. It couldn't have been any other way. So
I had to go to my old cribs and go
on the block. The kids on the back, I grew
up with their parents, so they're like family. You know,
we went to the block, We got the kids, and
they got paid for that as well. Oh, they got paid.
They got paid. So they had a day's work with Philmore.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
That's awesome and it's real.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
And then you know with the skits and you know,
like you're talking about like this the historic for you
feeling with those those houses, it sounds like more and
more like this. This album was just kind of like
a coming home for you in a way, you know,
kind of representing where you came from and where you're going.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
So salute man, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Brother. I just man, I'm just getting started. Bro. Things
you're gonna see from me and hear from me are
beyond measures. You know what I'm saying, Like I can't
even word it, Like we're gonna go to the moon. Brother,
I'm just getting started. Man.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Everybody, get ready, get your get your rockets out, because
putting stuff out, the meet and greets gonna be on
Mars next.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
So you know, please like the way this pin is
working on this side. Man, It's just I'm just blessed. Man.
I'm enjoying my blessings and I'm blessed to be able
to use my words the way I do. And I
don't take it for granted, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Man, speaking of the pens. So there's a couple of
lyrics I wanted to bring up. Man.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
First of all, I'm a big Cubs fan. You had
a Cubs codon that day. I saw you at the
record shot. You mentioned Greg Maddox in a record Man.
I was like, yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a sports head brother, Like I'm yeah,
I'm I'm a sports guy. Like I'm not the best
player to play the sports, but I can definitely, you know,
I could cough my shit, and I love sports man,
and sports is like you know, when you play sports, man,
it's nothing like seeing somebody, whether they're the most hyped
up or the underdog, do something they love and really
(18:11):
showcase this supernatural talent. You know, like football and you
know basketball, watching Steph Curry, he just went for fifty
sixth last night. Man, this is the guy that was
you know, recruited by like one or two colleges. He
was skinny, you know, six' to two and the league
full of giants and still found his way and he
ain't managed to change the game and have arguably the
(18:33):
biggest impact on the game of. Basketball, ever how could
you not love watching that story trans by a four
or five time CHAMPION MVPs the best three point shoot like?
That sports Are sports are, beautiful. MAN a lot of
people don't just look at it as like a game
when you really watch the, professionals, man it's a beautiful. Experience.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Man i'm old enough to remember his, Dad del with
The Charlotte. LAWRENTZ i don't know if that Means i'm
old or, what BUT i remember him and he could shoot.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Too but, yeah it steps on another.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Level he was nothing like his. Son he was nothing
like his his oldest, boy no, doubt, man something like
his oldest. Boy.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah so everybody listening to make sure you check Out smoked.
That that's the song and there's a video for it
on YouTube and that's where you make The maddix reference and,
omg you also have a video for that. Too talk
about making, videos, man how how much fun it is
to have a visual to kind of, help you, know
push the song a little, bit let people see what
a lot of people are just. Saying they just want
to see things that. Visually and maybe they're not gonna
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sit and listen to a whole, album but the video
might grab, them.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Right, yeah the video grab. Him the video grab you
the new. CONSUMERS i remember my first time Seeing. Davs
it was with a. Video he was ON. Mtv you
could tell he wasn't The dave's he was. Today it
was much, younger but the beat was so, dope and
when the video came, on it left. Me when it went,
(19:51):
OFF i went, searching you know What i'm. SAYING i
went searching for who is this? Guy you know when
they used to have the things on the credits on
the bottom left hand corner of the, SCREEN i was
waiting on the credits BECAUSE i had to go listen
to that record. Again and that video kept me attached
to him for over ten years, now you, KNOW i
don't you, know kept me in the loop with him
(20:12):
for over ten years, Now.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Man without a, Doubt and you think you might do
some more videos from this, Album oh for.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Sure, man this album deserves a video for every record
if you ask, me, right, Man, YEAH i have a
concept for every, record for a video for every, record
but you, know not too many people do. That but, yeah,
man this album is, uh it's definitely one of those. Joints.
MAN i definitely want to get one. Done For money Over.
Vegas we're doing A welcome to The shop video. Soon
(20:41):
that's gonna be your. Beauty it's gonna, beautiful you, know
but definitely, more definitely. MORE i might just do one for.
Everyone you never, KNOW.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I mean money Over.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Vegas that means you're going To vegas, then, Right so
that's an excuse to go To.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Vegas. Nah. Nah for me to actually do that, video,
yeah like, live it would take a huge but you,
know huge, budget huge, budget but, NAH i do something
animated to that. Thing there you, go all there you,
GO i do something. Animated, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Man, well one of my favorite tracks on here you,
know being A Girl dad. MYSELF i saw WHEN i
look at. That every TIME i get an album or
download or, WHATEVER i look at the names of the
songs AND i saw Girl. Dad i'm, like oh, man
AND i already know you're you, know you've got a
daughter and, everything and She i've seen you do pictures
online which she's in the record shop with you and.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Stuff and my daughter's almost.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Six so like WHEN i WHEN i saw that time
Like Matt can with the press play on this thing,
man AND i saw, HIM i got A Big crown
shout out To Big. Crown he's been on the show
here before he produced that. Track talk about that, Record, Man.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Girl dad is one of those. Records. MAN i had
went on a hiatus from. WRITING i had went on
his long hiatus from from putting a pin to the
pad and shout out To Big. Crown Big crown is
one of those. Guys you, know we don't really kick,
it we don't really See we probably met maybe three,
times but he's one of those. Guys he'll flood My
My my text is with. Beats and WHEN i heard that,
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BEAT i instantly told, them, like you, know don't do
anything to that one because it just it sounded like
a beat of. Peace it sounds the beat sounds like
peace to. Me SO i would just listen to the
beat for a, while and when it was ready for
me to end my, HIATUS i just put that pin
in the pad AND i let everything. Go you, KNOW
i let everything go on the page and it came out.
(22:25):
Beautiful my Brother, chuck he came up with the title
and that we have. It, Man Girl, Dad, Man Girl
dad's the last record is the perfect record in the
album with and, uh you, KNOW i got beautiful, Girls,
MAN i got beautiful. Girls And i'm proud of.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
It.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Man shout out to all the girl dads out.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
There, yeah, man and even even the boy dads or,
both you, know BECAUSE i mean there's a message in
that song, too you. Know and you, know, man it
JUST i played it before talking to you, here and
it just hit me, again like every TIME i hear,
IT i hear like something new in. It MAYBE i
didn't catch the first. Time AND i think even told
me WHEN i mention On sunday That big crown sends you,
(23:02):
like you, know a whole bunch of beats and you
know one of them will just speak to you in
that way and.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Something that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Here all the, time all the, time all the, Time Big.
Crowns you, know it's so many producers that reach out to. Me,
MAN i got so many beats in my hard. Drive you,
Know i'm gonna get to the bulk of. Them but
some beats you get when you hear, them you just
have to be urging about it because it just touched your,
soul you, Know and that's what Girl dad did for.
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Me Big. Crown he's obviously a hard working. Guy he
has a catalog of beats and he wants to. Work
that's what film is. About. MAN i just don't want
to stop, working, right don't want to stop.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Working And i'm sure that's the thing that happens a
lot too with a lot of. Artists you, know they
get a lot of beats and maybe today's not the
day you use that beat you put in a. Folder
maybe six months from, now you're from, now something will
speak to you from that and you, know get the
pen writing.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Again Right, man you may give me a beat AND
i might not putting an out of out for it
for three, years Bro. Right it's just the way it,
goes Man like when you make an, albums, man if
it's not with a single, producer the all the records
we recorded For cost Of living With Apollo brown is not.
Out oh, wow you get What i'm. Saying so we
got like four records that didn't make. It SO i
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might not get to a beat for two. Years it
has to hit me like unless it's one of those.
Joints other than, THAT i have to pace, it LIKE
i got so many beats and there's so many Things i'm.
Doing it may take it may take a. While not
saying that the beat is, trash but it's just like
it could be the best beat in the. World IF
i don't feel it, right Then i'm not gonna get
to it. Right BUT i am gonna tell a, producer,
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man keep that on. Ice don't set out to anybody.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Else right, right make sure no one else gets it
first for.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Sure but you know that.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
That brings me to WHAT i was gonna ask, You
is it it cost of? Living you worked with A
Polo brown and then this Album Grand design numerous producers on.
It is there like any kind of difference as far
as like working with one producer you kind of said
it a little, bit or as far as working with
like five or six different. Producers is there like A
i don't, know it's harder for you to put songs
together when it's multiple producers like, that or.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
No it's not harder to put the song, Together but it's.
Nothing it's hard about anything when you're working with several.
Producers it's a lot that comes with. Sequencing you have
to make the it has to be some cohesiveness behind,
it opposed to one. Producer this one producer has the
same style and feel and warmth or whatever the beats,
do the producer has. It so working with one producer
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is much easier because you got you got the vibe already.
Set it's just about. Now all you gotta do is.
Pain but when you're working with other, producers you, know
it's it's like you got to put this collades of
music together and make it cohesive and it has to make.
Sense so which one DO i like out of the?
TWO i just like making. Music, man don't matter WHEN
i work with producers man or producers work with me
(25:47):
or however you want a, WORD i like to get
in their. WORLD i like to see HOW i fit
in in their, world, right you, Know like writ into
An apollo brown beat is a different approach from writing
to a rashiet ha d. Beat you get What i'm.
Saying so it's just just, different you.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Know going back to, sports it's like playing with different, teammates,
RIGHT i, mean maybe you know this player is more
you know better shooting. Threes this one's more down below
maybe like. That so you got to learn how to
play with different, people and therefore it sharpens you because
you've got to be more versatile with different producers and
things like. That so actually that that kind of makes
more sense that. Way so, yeah, Man so there it
is killing it, Man. Yeah, Man and you, know going
(26:24):
back To cost Of, LIVING i wanted to bring up
one track from that, album, Man Time. GOES i remember
that was my favorite song WHEN i first heard the
album and playing it like today BECAUSE i lost a
couple of people recently AND i hear that, Song it's
like it just takes me to like another. Place, man
it just hits, differently you know WHAT i. Mean so
talk about that, record, man and what kind of reaction
you got from you, know songs like, that you, know
work with a polo brown, MAN i love that, Album.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Dude Tom goes is one of the records. Man it
really means a lot to me because of the substance behind.
It it's one of those records where they love it
WHEN i performed it. Overseas it's one of those records
where you know it may you really pay. Attention Mine
Time goals is really about the change within the world
and filling the shift when you're coming from boyhood to,
(27:08):
manhood from manhood to the highest form of. Adulthood you,
know it's about that shift in. Life you, know WHEN i,
lived when it was a time where no one had a.
Device it was one. Phone we used one, phone and
that was in the. House when it came time to WATCH.
Tv we watched television. Together we ate dinner, together you,
(27:29):
know we went outside to. Play and now everyone's stuck
to a. Device everyone's you, Know i'll be at the
table eating with my. Daughter she has an, iPad you
know WHAT i. Mean, like it's just. Different. Man it
talks about the changes in life and the shifts in,
life and it's a great introspective. Record of, Course i'm
gonna say, that But Time goals is my highest performing
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record to. Date oh, MAN i predict that record to
be in movies. SOMEDAY i don't know what type of,
movie BUT i predict that to be in some, performer
some type of move.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Man that just makes it even next level here in that,
man that would be pretty. Cool And i'm aldough to
remember when WHEN i was a, KID i was the answering.
Machine we had to like the person to call the
house and be, like, yeah my mom's in the.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Shower at eight o'clock at. Night you had to, lie you.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Know you, see you didn't have an answer machine or
an iPhone or whatever where you could ignore a.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Call, yeah get a, text.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
You, know answering. Machine, yeah, man the CALL I D
AND i remember those, days, Man but now it's just
like everybody has. Access you have a phone on your,
waist you have your life on your. Waist you can
really lay in your bed all day and control your whole, career,
right you know WHAT i? Mean, yeah off of your.
Phone it's.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Crazy it's crazy to think about.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
It control my whole life off of my phone and
not move.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Man that sounds.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Great, yeah it's, like think about. It you can you
can pay, bills you can send, money you can order.
Groceries you you can stay in one room and control
your whole life all through your cell. Phone.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
MAN i just bought shoes on the phone the other,
Day like just laying there looking at shoes all day
and if they don't, Fit i'll send them back and.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Whatever but it's, like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
You, know back, then we had to go to the.
Stores we had to go write letters and put a
stamp on it and put it in a we sound
and all the Ship, yeah these are just the, time
you know What i'm, Saying, like that's what we used
to have to. Do and it's, like, man the all
times have. Changed. Bro it's a blessing to be in
this day and age and see the ships and to
see my daughters grow and my family, grow and it's
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just something. New it's something great about. It. Man So
I'm i'm blessed. Bro. Yeah, Man Time goes is that.
Record it's about life and it's transition.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Without a, doubt and it makes you realize where you
had things differently and where you are.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Now you.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Know you, KNOW i can appreciate technology and things like
that BECAUSE i forgot what it was like to have
to be in front of A tv to watch something
at the time it was on or you're, done you.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Know so it's it's it's cool for us to see.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
It in that, light you, know, Like, okay this is
how things have change for the younger. Generation you, know
they don't know about the. Struggle you, know you don't, know.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
But it's, okay really.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Don't, Man BEFORE i let you. GO i wanted to
bring up another line from the new Album Grand. Design
we're talking with Philmore. Green make sure you go check
out The Grand, design by the, way they can find
it on band.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Camp but is it on all platforms as?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Well, yeah it's definitely on all platforms as well as band.
Camp you, know just type my, name, man, bro you're
gonna get that. Out.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah there's a lot of stuff that he's done in the,
Past like we talked about the, intro survival scroll and
knowledge and, power everything like.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
That there's a line you said at the very end OF.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Omg IF i can't not bring this, up you, said
push the reel into the fake shit is obsolete and that.
One of, course being an old head LIKE i, am
you know there's new. Music of COURSE i was thinking like.
That but to be, honest what you're saying, is, like you,
know the, conscious the real stuff needs needs a, voice
needs a.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Platform man speak on that lyric.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
There, man it's just a bunch of oversaturated, bullshit you,
Know but how could you knock the next man from
feeding his. Family whatever it, takes and if it, works
you gotta respect. It but it's coming back, around coming
back around to the realness coming back around to when
you know you really had to put that pin of
that pad and really show that you can go right
(31:12):
coming back around to. That you, know we just watched
the biggest art rapper in the world who's a conscious
rapper right, now and he performed at the Super, bowl
and there was an underlining message under, it, Right it
was a message under the whole. Performance so it's coming back, around.
Bro like it was no popcorn, shit you know WHAT i? Mean, like,
(31:33):
no not at, all, man you feel.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Me the visuals and everything with you, know everybody dressed
up with the shirts and to make the flag and
every and all, that and there's so much going on.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
There it was.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
LAYERED i, MEAN i don't even know IF i caught
everything they were. Doing that's what's so great about. It
it was more than just hear's some songs, to you,
know turn your brain off while we wait for football
to come.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Back that was something.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Else. Man, man it was. Heavy so it's always, beautiful,
Man it's always a beautiful.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Thing everybody, listening make sure you check out Philmore. Green
he already told you he's going other places with, this
so you, know make sure you stay tuned where can
they follow you ON i know you're on Ig let
him know where they can follow you On instagram and
other places like, that and even get the record and
merch and all that all.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Places P H I L M O R e and
green with AN e at the. End the grand design
out now out. Everywhere go smack that button and get that,
vinyl get that Pink rolls edition, man and, yeah, man it's.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Beautiful everybody needs to get. IT i.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
WAS i was so geeked WHEN i opened it BECAUSE
i didn't know it was pink UNTIL i got. HOME
i was, like oh, shit look at this nice and
The cost Of LIVING i think is. Green i'm trying
to remember WHEN i pulled it. OUT i think it
was a green vinyl, Too so that's another. One, yeah,
YEAH i got the green. One that's just, dope. MAN
i like physical. MEDIA i stole some stuff on my.
PHONE i do it all the. Time but having a
(32:48):
record in your hand is just just something.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Else man's green and the Red. Man it's. Beautiful.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Man what can they expect next from? You feel? More
what's what's coming up that you could? Promote more?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Music, man more, Music. Man i'm working on another. PROJECT
i don't know when it's coming, out but, uh you,
know more, music, man like music and some other things
THAT i won't even talk about right. Now But i'm always.
Working my mind is always. Thinking definitely more, music, man
but for right, now until we get to that. Point
(33:18):
The Grand design on all streaming, Platforms, Man Infinite banter. Podcast,
Baby oh there it.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Is, YEAH i, SEE i got a little promo there
to even know. It, man believe that feel More.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Green check out the new Album The Grand design following.
ONLINE i mean, this this album is tremendous and of
course the cost of living another one THAT i remember
WHEN i first saw you work With Apollo, BROWN i was, like,
okay all, right upper echelon here we're. Something something's going big.
Here So, man just just salute for coming through here
and showing me some your. Time AND i respect you coming.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Through in the. Podcast, man it's just the honor having
you back on.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Here, Dude thank you for having.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Me you got it feel More Green The Grand.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Design everybody, listening go check it, out don't sleep and once,
again things again for coming on the.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Podcast, man appreciate.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
You appreciate you, brother big.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Big up To Fillmore green for coming on the, show
had a great time talking with, Him so everybody out,
there make sure you go check out The Grand design
and he has a lot of projects out there that
if you listen to the EPISODE i did with him
a few years, back we're talking about The Survival scroll
and that was something that blew my mind back, then you,
know three or four years, ago and ever since, then
it's just like the level of the bar keeps going
up and up and, up and you know the album
(34:24):
with The Pollo, Brown The cost Of, living and now
this one, here he just keeps raising that bar and
he's just doing, bigger bigger things every. Time so definitely
go follow him, online check out his band, cam check
out everything he's got out, there and you, know go
grab a record or A cd from. Him and definitely
a big salute to Fillmore. Green definitely rep In chicago
in the best way. POSSIBLE i do want to play
a track here from his previous Album Don't Want To Pollo,
(34:47):
brown Called The cost Of. Living we talked about this
song in particular in the, interview and it's Called Time
Goes AND i remember when that album came, out it
was easily one of my favorite songs on the, album
and you, know WHEN i play it, now LIKE i,
said it kind of hits a little bit. Different SO
i want people who are, listening maybe who haven't heard
this song, before go ahead and check it. Out and you,
know a lot of times the musical guests on, here you,
know we kind of focus on the one, album but
(35:07):
he's got so many albums out THAT i actually want
to kind of branch out a bit and reintroduce you
guys to a couple of.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Albums Right so here.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
You go from The cost Of, Living Apollo brown And Fillmore.
Green this right, here it's called time Goes. Here on
The Infinite banter, Podcast.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
Tom golfs go, yeah Because tom go. Yeah look back
(35:51):
when Ent tame and with shared at the same, time
we all moved to the same, Tune saint, rhyms same
drop of a. Dome we shared memory site was. Precious
now withadays it seems kind of. HECTIC i guess over
the past fifty years we get a shift on this
planet when new times. Come the Old vanish granted used
to feed the whole crib.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Man we never went. Famished go get you a.
Speaker 7 (36:13):
Switch if you was managed FROM tv guides To Yellow.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
PAGES i seen hello. Phases today's life insurance is phone.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
Cases sure these in pamphles would not pad the. Basics
everybody want a shot.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
In the face for a.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
Facelift if we could switch, it it would seem so
odd picturing our g moda When Felicia. Rasha just Imagine
CARDY b Was Jeff BEAUTY o the week. RESPECTFULLY i
bet the times is changing as we. Speak come, on come,
on where at the time?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Go time?
Speaker 7 (36:43):
GO i gotta catch. Up i'm stuck in the times?
Off where did the time?
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Go time?
Speaker 7 (36:49):
Go it's like the whole world stuck and he's our faults.
Man what happened to the time to the? Time it's
like a brower needs you never relied the time, goal time.
Goal you gotta live to get. All my ain'teen used
to slam on the burnouts with those brick phones where
you from get a cold go and pick you as
(37:09):
on seven seventy three the organic? Times what's having? Lea
it's like the whole world's forgetting this pet of. Three
we went from boomboxes dancing the hippop to who got
the ox dancing for. Ticktoms my granny used to make
us go back and fight more like if you, lose
don't come back through my. Doors i'm just reflecting on
(37:29):
the basics of. Life then the tables with the, fan
we all take a device where the television sitcoms with
morals at the. End then now it's ripped the reality
for tension part Of. Philly AS i age, Myself i'm
stuck in my, ways amazed by this phase. Myself, LISTEN
i ain't ashamed to learn and shift and. Grow you
(37:49):
gotta live to get old because time.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Goes time.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
Go where if the time, goal time, GO i gotta catch.
Up i'm stuck in the times on the time, go time.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Go it's like the whole world stuck in these our.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
Faults, man what happened to the time to the.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Time it's like a BROW i needs you never read
line with? It the time, goal time. Go you gotta
live to get. Old time go.
Speaker 9 (38:16):
Go, yoe it's your, boy or Maybe i'm not your,
boy but.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
It's Big spence rocking with my Boy.
Speaker 9 (38:32):
Mark you know What i'm. Saying infinite, dancing you mean
check them?
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Out time for you to leave.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Assholds that is Kirk osa. Video tell me to get
the hell out of, here and that is exactly What
i'm going to. Do but BEFORE i do, THAT i
got a couple of quick THINGS i did want to
mention too that you, know when we met Fillmore, green
me and my wife at the record store up in you,
know north side Of, Chicago Sugar. Records go find them
if you've never been, there go check them. Out really cool.
Spot but she was looking at all the records and
how much they they're selling them, for OR i trying
(39:00):
to explain her, like, yeah this is different than you,
know buying like A cd or. Something records are not
just a hobby for some.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
People it's a.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Commodity it's it's a it's almost like an. Investment and
she's looking at the prices of some of these, things
And i'm just.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Like, yeah you, KNOW i got all those records at.
HOME i have some of.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
These, now they're not all shrink wrapped in perfect condition
and pristine like the ones you see. Here but STILL
i think what it did for me and anybody out
there real windows What i'm talking. About you collect, records
or you collect anything for that, matter and if you
have a wife or a girlfriend or somebody who kind
of scratched their head it's, like why are you collecting this?
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Stuff what do you have?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
It it always helps validate why you're doing it with somebody, sees,
oh there's a there's a value for, this there's a supply.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
And a demand for, this like people want this. Stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Now it doesn't mean that she's talking me into selling,
them not, yet but it has come.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Up you, know how many DO i?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Have what are they?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
WORTH i don't. KNOW i don't even know how to
answer that. QUESTION i don't even want to answer that
question because they're not for. Sale but it was cool to,
see you, know her her experience in our record store like,
That she's never really been in anything like that, before
and to see, like oh my, god you, know she's
looking For Celene dion records And i'm trying to, find you,
know some old De las soul record or. Something so
(40:12):
it's kind of. Funny BUT i think they did have
A Selene dion record in. THERE i don't remember what
it costs because we weren't buying.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
It, whatever you know WHAT i.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Mean SO i tease that at the, BEGINNING i want
to talk about this movie Called The man in The
White van and it's From legion M they distribute, it you,
know and they put out a lot of good movies
in the past and a lot of independent, stuff and
it's very it's kind of like Band, camp like they're
a company that is about the fans and supporting the.
Artists and you, Know i'm a horror fan AND i
(40:41):
like anything that's got a slasher thriller. Vibe and then
you put it in like a decade like the, Seventies,
Well i'm all. IN i, mean that's. It that's that's my.
Lane i'm not gonna get too detailed about, it but
definitely go check it. OUT i saw it On Amazon.
Prime it's on some other platforms as, well BUT i
definitely saw it On Amazon. Prime and it's basically if
you like the idea that In, halloween if you, Remember
(41:03):
Michael myers was driving around in that it wasn't a
what kind of car was that he was driving around
in that hearst or whatever it. Was it was like
looked like a family car, Almost but eventually he got
out the car and was, stalking you, Know Jamie Lee
curtis's Character lorie strode by foot, right he was standing
by bushes and by laundry and.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Stuff but the beginning he was in a.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Car this this movie is kind of like if the
killer never got out the. Car you just see a
white van and he's just sitting in. There you never
really see what he looks. Like, ACTUALLY i don't think
you ever see what he looks like in the whole.
Movie that idea of being stalked is something that always scares. Me,
like that's something That i've talked about here. Before you,
know WHEN i just take the train late at night
or walking down a street or, something nothing ever happened to,
me BUT i was, always you, know keep my head
(41:42):
on a. Squivel you, KNOW i never know what's behind,
me what's coming. Next so it's down this, alley, Right
so that, idea to me is more scary than. Anything
i'm not really somebody who watches something for the gore
and all. THAT i just like the suspense and the
idea that this could happen to. Me so that's what
usually scares me about. It right, now this this movie's
a little bit. Tamed a lot of, GORE i, mean
but there's a lot of stuff that happens in, it
(42:03):
and apparently it's based on a true. STORY i don't
know how much of it is, true but if you
go seek it, out definitely check it. Out it's a
little bit. Long it takes a little while to get.
GOING i do like how they showed the different years
leading up to the current, time so that his current
time was nineteen seventy FIVE i believe was seventy, six
but it showed like in one year he abducted, someone
in one, year he abducted someone else in another, year
(42:24):
and it kind of showed the build up to the
point where you're actually at the story quote unquote in
real time and you don't really know what his motives.
Are maybe that might be something that might turn you
off to it because they don't really get into, it
but just the idea that there's some do in the.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Van he's just sitting, there and he probably ruined vans.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
For, everybody BECAUSE i, mean after, that you, know you
saw a van around the, corner you weren't supposed to
get into, it you, know he were.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Supposed to go in that car at.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
All you.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Know kind of remind me of Death proof if you
remember that, movie That tarantino movie some years, back you,
know guy stalking somebody in a. Car the same kind
of idea but he used the car as a. Weapon this,
one the guy just in the van just kind of
creeping out and then eventually he gets out the van
and tries to put you in. There LIKE i, said
it kind of felt like if you took The Michael
myers aspect driving around to the car and stalking, you
but do that for the whole. Movie that's the whole.
(43:07):
Thing so definitely go check it. Out The man in
The White van has a cool name to. It if,
anything the titles should get you. Interested it's got some
people you've seen in other movies, before Like Ellie. Larder
Sean aston's in. It they played the. Parents definitely go
check it. Out it's pretty.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Tame you could watch it if you're a. Teenager BUT
i liked.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
It it's definitely up my alley slash your film from
the seventies in a theme that's All i'm all over.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
That give me that kind of movie. Anytime but all,
right that said for.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Me The Infinite Banter podcast six years in the books
here twenty nineteen In february is WHEN i first started doing,
this so big. Ups everybody's been checking out the show ever.
Since you can find it on all. Platforms go on.
YouTube type In Infinite banter for clips and. Episodes check
out the show on all social media At Infinite Banter.
Podcast go On, spotify do the poll, questions check out the,
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playlist rate and review this show On Apple podcasts And
Good pods places like, that and definitely check out the
sponsor superseven dot com Slash Infinite Banter. Podcast big up
to Fillmore green for coming on the show once. Again
go check Out The Grand design his new, album and
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Speaker 3 (44:27):
Show so that's it for.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Me big, up Fillmore Green and UNTIL i do another
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