"Grown Folks Music"

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yo, what's going on?

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Man?

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Baby.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
Here it is another episode of the Infinite Banter podcast
What is Happening? My name is Mark Joloff, also known
as DJ Soundway. Thanks for checking out the show. No,
it's been a couple of weeks. I got to do
one of these, So thanks for checking in and staying
with me throughout all these podcast episodes that I do.
Sometimes they come frequents, sometimes there's a couple of weeks
in between. Shout out to all of you guys who're

(01:01):
loyal and stick with the show throughout. You know, the
peaks and valleys are this thing because you know, life
happens and things getting the way. You don't get to
record as often as you like, or you know, maybe
I don't have anything to say. No, it's not it
just a lot of stuff's happening. Got to find time
to squeeze it in. You know, now that summer is
here and the little one's home, so you know, there's
not a lot of pockets of time where I'm alone

(01:22):
by myself. Some of you guys know what I'm talking about.
I need my Loane time, man, I need my no
disturbances and no interference. As I get older, my brain
is not good at multitasking. I can't do it. Man.
You guys can do it. Salute to you, but not
the tangent. I want to start the show with today's show.
Returning is the one and only King of Droid. He's
been on the show before a couple of years back

(01:43):
talking about his album Homology. Well that was called Volume one.
He's got another one out just came out, Homology Volume two,
and really fun talk with him, a really good dude
and can't wait to bring some music for you from
that album, and talking to him about the album much
much more so, Stay tuned. King of Rate is here.
But it's always before we go forward, we go back.
Let's check out a flashback from the last episode that

(02:05):
featured dialste Gassi and Tone Folks their new album Iron Angelus.
Here's a flashback to that episode and the Infinite Banter
podcast flashback.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
But the music that comes out, bro, it's like you
know what I'm saying. Like as far as hip hop
or when you imagine to be somewhere and you're like
I can't leave, or even the hours are just flying by.
I don't know, it's like a portal or some shit. Bro,
we'll look up it'll be like two days later. Like, nigga,
I gotta get the fucking the shot.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
This is crazy. What are we doing?

Speaker 5 (02:36):
But the music that comes out and that shit is
the weight of the music is different.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I never did, man right that til I can't here.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
Yeah, he thought we were crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I thought this nigga was.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
Gonna call the police. I thought you were telling the police.
He was looking at us like, man, y'all niggas is crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
But he said it like in a row. Yeah, man,
like we really like from the cool they back home?
What the fuck? I gotta dude, get it done, get
out right there. Like I said, it's a damn party.
Well fuck me for a goddamn thirty.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
Definitely go back and check out that episode with Dios
Nagassi and Tone Folks aka Messiah of Madness. One of
the you know, crazier interviews I've ever had conversations talking
about all kinds of wild stuff. So go back and
check them out. And when you get a chance to
make sure you check out their new album, Iron Angel.
It's a lot of fun talking to them, dudes. I'm
sure you have not heard the last from both of
them on this podcast. I mean, Dios wants me to

(03:33):
do a video version, which by the way, not doing
for the podcast, but I teased it on the last episode.
I did make a video. I finally did do something.
If you're interested in seeing it, it's on the Infinite
Banter YouTube channel. If you want to just do a search,
you could just look up Friday the thirteenth crylic Stand.
Basically what I did was I bought this a crylic

(03:53):
stand from five below and I opened it and reviewed it.
It's about four minutes long. Had a lot of fun
putting the video together and doing the fun stuff with
the effects and the music and everything. And it's called
Things and Stuff, so it's a reference to Walking Dead,
something Rick always said. So check it out if you
get a chance, go on YouTube. Definitely had a lot
of fun doing Then I plan on doing more of those,

(04:14):
maybe a couple of months something like that. They're not
gonna be very long. The opposite of infinite bands are there.
They're gonna be only a couple of minutes, so definitely
check them out when they come out, and check out
the most recent one, the premiere episode of Things and
Stuff where I review the Friday thirteenth at crylic Stand,
which I think is really cool. It's three dollars at
five below. I mean, you can't beat that. Definitely go
out there and check it out. I said in the
video if you don't get them now, what will happen

(04:36):
is some jerk w buy them all and sell them
on eBay and they'll be like twenty five dollars each,
and then you won't be able to get that three
dollars price for those. So then we check out the
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probably have links all the time when I promote stuff,
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(04:56):
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on the show, I do want to talk about two
albums that are out from two Legends, not really a review,
but I definitely want to give my thoughts on them.
Stay tuned for That'd be later on the show after
we talked to King Android about his new album Homology too,
so stay tuned for that. King Android is here. We're
going to talk about some classic legends with new material
before you do anything, so the All Time Legends gets on,

(06:01):
he says this, and now the show begins, Yo, yo,
what's up?

Speaker 6 (06:04):
This is me DMC to KI and G the greatest
MC in history. And right now you're listening to Infinite
Banta because we will banta on forever, because this is
the only place for all of you all to ever be.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
I be infinite Banta.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
So before we talk to King George, let's play a
track from his new album, Homology Volume two. This song
right here is called mister U Hall, and his a little
bit of background on it. When I talked to him
a couple years ago, he was living in North Carolina.
Now he's in Pittsburgh. He grew up in Pittsburgh, now
he's back there, and so this song kind of reflects
the travels and you know, the obvious move from one
state to another and going back home, which helped craft

(06:43):
the sound of Homology Volume two because Volume one was
made in North Carolina, so there's a similarities, but there's
some differences based on where he's recording them, where he
was in his life. So I think this song really
helps kind of set that up. It's the first track
on the album. SOT to talk about this song in
the interview here, so stay tuned, but listen to the song. First,
here we go mister u Haul from King of Droits
from the new album Homology Volume two. On the other

(07:03):
side of this, talk to the man himself about this
song and a lot lot more here on the Infinite
Banter Podcast, mister u Haul from Homology Volume two, King
of Droit.

Speaker 7 (07:11):
Let's go yeah, okay, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Listen y'all, Old world cabinets, lost stream, got the cabbage.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
This is more.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Did some high fashion take your bread? Put it on
the frame? Mix nice funiture. When you come to my crip,
your feet is lifted up a few dollars from my
hue haul shorty, sure they drop off my touchscreen referser rate.
So yeah at the dog live a room when you
walk in the whole floor smelling tiki. I'm in the kitchen,
on the counter and cutting up a couple of apples

(07:56):
to toss on the salad, trying to find a better
way to get a good habit. All your brother's on
the block got a drug habit. It brains so sporadic,
getting mad at vain because I got a different life,
nigga trying to live lavish, which ain't for nothing but
the same whole shit.

Speaker 8 (08:11):
I'm just climbing to my nigga, I see a ship.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, greave up. It's a snun nos man. I know
how sign goes.

Speaker 8 (08:20):
Oh my god, this experience, Oh, this experience.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yea greave up, it's a snun los man.

Speaker 8 (08:28):
I know how to slime GIRs. Oh my god, this experience.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Listen, Oh my god, this experience.

Speaker 8 (08:35):
You never catch me hating on another brother.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
You say, same skin tones, just like me last week.
Keep it all the rate pick when y'all had a
dream like Lain Luther King did it at all trying
to skin the Wino scheme hits that. You notice all
your money now gain for profit. That's why I created mylcy.

Speaker 8 (08:54):
Go do your now, let's just visit you say. They
say I'm not dying.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
I did.

Speaker 8 (08:58):
These niggas ass crack up for money.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
You're on the crib man.

Speaker 8 (09:01):
It's past that these.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Niggas potting on their money. You're on the strip of bench.
I'm puting money on the funiture. You niggas wish.

Speaker 8 (09:08):
This ship here is probably overt a type of lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
You niggas mess.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Then you always gotta see I'm never outside but people
my fucking parkishman, and you're always alive all the fucking yeah,
when the late get back.

Speaker 6 (09:22):
Man.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
You know, there's.

Speaker 9 (09:23):
Been a lot of work going on over here, man,
so you know a lot of money talk, so saying
it's a lot of good things on the horizon.

Speaker 8 (09:30):
So we just you know, trying to stay on task
right now, try trying.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
To put a deviate from the work unless you know.

Speaker 9 (09:38):
It's something crazy. But hopefully everything good on that side. Man,
you know what I mean, Yo, you gotta drop the
music though, Yo, you're playing games.

Speaker 8 (09:49):
Man. We're doing all these songs with a lid.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Two songs.

Speaker 9 (09:51):
I don't think either one of them came out yet.
You know what I'm saying, Like you guys, drop that music, man,
he hold on to the music.

Speaker 8 (09:59):
I'm gona tell you now.

Speaker 9 (10:01):
So you now, I have been talking too some executives. Man,
let me saying it the people holding on the music. Man,
you never know what would have cracked through.

Speaker 8 (10:10):
Man.

Speaker 9 (10:11):
So I don't know if you.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Can release anything.

Speaker 9 (10:13):
I know, I haven't really seen anything, but I said,
I've been so busy.

Speaker 8 (10:17):
I mean it's been crazy.

Speaker 9 (10:19):
So but damn man, like y'all drop the music. Man
put the music out ya for real. But other than that,
now I hope everythink peace.

Speaker 10 (10:30):
With you and your family.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
And yeah, yeah, what's up the Monarch of except to
any and let you just release the little shits the
master craftsman person Peak. You're listening to Infinite Dance the
DJ sound Wave, y'all.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Boom, You're tuned into the Infinite Banter podcast. I'm DJ
Soundwave and I'm really hyped to bring back on the show.
I guess that has released a new album of follow
up to his twenty twenty three released homology. We's got
another one, volume two. Welcome back to the show, the
one and only King of Droit. What's up man?

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yo? Man? What's going on? Brother? How you doing?

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Man? It's so good to hear you back with some
music like this, man, because I mean, not that you've
been gone. You've got some other releases in between, but
this right here is just perfect for this summer.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Man.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
It's hot. I'm in the Chicago area. It's hot as
hell out here, and this album I was playing it
the last couple of days, and I think I messaged
you last night. I said I just wanted to grab
a drink and just chill on the balcony and just
relax and just let it play because it just it
just gave me that feeling of just sitting back and
some grown man steez.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah. Man, it's definitely one of those type of feels.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Man.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
I'm happy to get back into it.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Continue to keep building off of that sequel, you know,
to keep it going.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah, man, what was the idea initially when you made
Himology a couple of years ago? And I think it's like,
what July? When did it come out last twenty twenty three?

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Right?

Speaker 4 (11:53):
The first first one?

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, we all two years now, man, July and July.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
I was I was pretty latecause you know with the
first one in because you know how I get picky.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
You know, you're picking beads.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
You're like, I don't know, let me see then of
course you know parenthood, fatherhood, you.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah, there, it is gets in the way or or
or just adds to it however you want a word.
We're not trying to make anything sound like it's a negative.
It just it just makes things a little more uh interesting.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah yeah, yeah, right man, you know because it delayed
a little bit, like you know, things get in a
way and in this timeframe, like you said, with this man,
continue to sequel and build off of it.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
I planned it in advance.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
I was like, you know what, man, I'll just go
back and back and back to back into the booth
and just start creating.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
And I did already have some songs.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Already done, you know what I mean that didn't make
it from Homology one that I moved over for Homology too,
so it was like five or six.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
So I see, I see. So when you made Homology one,
did you kind of have the foresight like, yeah, I'm
gonna make another one of these and these other songs
that didn't make this one, keep them in the can
or whatever, and when I do Part two, just to
be part of it.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. You hit it right on
the head man.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
That once I started, Once I started listening, I'm like, yeah,
this might be actually the vibe for two, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Like, but it was good.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
I didn't want to cut it and delete the entire track,
but I was like, yo, this is moving over, you
know what I mean, I'm tuck this in a sash.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yeah, And you know it's cool that you you know,
you kind of have that foresight because I'm sure as
an artist it's got to be hard because you're trying
to focus on the now like you're making it going
back to twenty twenty three, hymology is the focus, but
you have to have some kind of idea that all right,
I got something else I want to work on too,
and making this kind of legos or however you want

(13:32):
to you know, puzzle pieces, this togethered homology too that
I'm gonna do, But I don't know when that's gonna
come out. That's in the future, but I gotta think
about one. But I gotta think about you know, I'm
sure there's a lot that goes into the science of
how to plan this stuff out while also focusing on
the now, which you really got to focus on with
the current album.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, yeah, you're right, man. It's like strategizing, you know
what I mean. It's like moving moving tracks to a
certain pocket, you know what I mean. It's sometimes you
want to be in a in a similar pocket. You
don't want to overdo it because you don't want to
overkill it. But then like speaking of friends and you know,
like just people, you know you hear it, be like yo, man,
it's good to have a full life. Man, keep it,
keep it sixteen, keep it nineteen tracks, good twenty and

(14:08):
I'm like, man, that sounds exhausted, bro, Like you know.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Right, it's crazy, man. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
And then you know there's the other side of it too.
I'm sure there's some songs that didn't make the cut,
right or maybe they all did. Maybe maybe you're that
talented that everything you make is just just gold and
it goes on these albums.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
I hope though, Bro, But there's still stuff on Stash.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Dude, there's still Bro, there's still there's still much, still
still a lot, man, Like there's still like, uh like
another eight or nine, man.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
And it was some things that I recorded even.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Like previously before I thought of the homology sequel, like
you know what I mean, that has that same fabrians
And there's there's some stuff that I recorded in between
that I was like, no, not yet, you know what
I mean, just because it's you know, it wasn't ready.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
The obvious question is the trilogy. We got to get
a third. I mean, you can't do things in twos,
you gotta do them in threes, right, So yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
That's true, that's true. What did they call it in baseball?
What's it called?

Speaker 3 (15:04):
I Forgot they call it baseball, man, when you go
for like three or four home runs before they start walking.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
All right, right, there's the Yeah, there is a name
for it. I mean, I was thinking of the cycle.
But that's when you get single, double, triple home run,
the triple triple crowns and you get batting. Man, I'm
an idiot. Base was my favorite sport. And you know
that you just put me on the spot. Man, what
is that when you get the three home runs of
the game, It's called awesome.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Right, because you know Graham slam? Is that that fully
loaded base Yeah? Yeah, it's like a hat or what's
called a hat trick.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
That's hockey. That's hockey, but it's maybe it crosses over
to baseball too. Yeah, right right, that something with a
stick and it goes somewhere where no one can get it. Yeah,
that's three times.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Right? All right?

Speaker 4 (15:50):
All right, right, so right now you've got you got
two in the in the bag, and you got to
get that third one to make it a trilogy. I'm
thinking like Star Wars or something thing in trilogies, you know,
three three, three, But man, you know, and another thing too,
is you know, last time I talked to you're in
North Carolina, right, and now you're in Pittsburgh. So yeah, yeah, man,

(16:10):
the philosophy of that of like changing cities and moving
and all that and how that affects your music.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
It does a lot. Man, back back home hometown.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
You know, I thought I didn't miss it, but honestly,
it's almost like redating again, bro, you know, because it's like,
you know, it's almost like like, yeah, you know what
I mean, because you're kind of like you're kind of like, damn, man,
because you know it's it's you know, it's another reason too,
you know, with the parents are getting you know, older,
but like but like at the same time, man, you

(16:41):
know you're moving back. It's kind of like damn, Okay,
I don't I don't think I want to come back.
But then at the same time, you know what the
purpose is, like you know, so, but at the same time,
it's kind of like redating again, like you're going back
to a honeymoon stage. Like there's some things I loved
about it's some things I hate, But one thing, dude,
I do love and I appreciate about Pittsburgh, this being
up north and you know this too because you're in Chicago.
You know the older cities New York, Chicago, Pennsylvania, Philly,

(17:04):
you know, Detroit. It brings a lot of that I
don't know something about once I got here, and I
think maybe it was the wintertime too, but it brought
that musical side back to me, man, and the whole
other level.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Where you know what I mean. It's that, you know,
the the old school field.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
There's tons of jazz lounges everywhere, you know what I mean,
There's tons of cigar spots, There's tons of uh, you know,
a rustic, older city versus modern. So it feels like
it brought my art back. I don't know what it is, yeah,
but I'm kid you not.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Man, I've been Uh.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
I'm going back to the studio with the pennlrds. You
know those guys, you know they were on my album
on Sunday. I want to be working on some tracks
with them. And I got another producer that wants to
be a part of the Homology trilogy that reached out
to me and dang man, it's a lot going on.
And I got some more beats that came in that
has more of a jazz yer winter Field and it

(17:57):
makes me want to get back into that boom back,
you know.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
So I think coming back up North sparks something else. Bro.
I don't know what it is, you know what I mean.
Like first I was kind of getting exhausted too, but
now kind of like, man, it's a night is something.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
It's like it rejuvenated something inside you that so you
were there. I'm trying to remember from our last conversation
when you came on before. Did you grow up in
Pittsburgh and then moved to North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Or yeah, yeah, yeah, Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
So it's like putting on some some old like shoes
or something that fit right. That's that's what it felt
like for you to come back here, like you know,
old coat that you know, it's like, oh it still
fits and it feels right, I'm gonna put it on.
That's how it probably, yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Exactly, you know what I mean. It just felt it
felt good, you know what I mean. First it was like,
you know, I don't know, I don't know, But then
it was like and you know, it's different, you know
when you come up here, because it isn't you know,
the weather is completely.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Different, bro.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
You know how it is here you know North Yeah,
it doesn't get it doesn't get hot hot for a while,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
It's it's it's complain weather. It's like, man, it's too rainy.
Oh it's too cloudy. Oh it's too hot, it's too cold. Yeah.
But but on the other side of it, I'll take
this over fires and hurricanes. So you know what, whatever the.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Exactly I'm gonna lie, I will too, man, you know
what I mean, Like, yeah, it felt, it feels good.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Man. It feels good to be back. And it also
around your family too. Man ignites a lot of love.
And you know you see your cake Groat with all
his cousins too, now you know what I mean, Like
he's running around and joint life and.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
There's a lot there. So you know, this album came out,
correct me if I'm wrong. If it wasn't on Father's Day,
at least around Father's Day, right, was that that was intentional?

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Yeah, I was trying to get it out even a
week before then. But the way it hit, like right
all the time. Yeah, it dropped Thursday, like you know
what I mean, like a little bit before Father's Day,
but Father's Day weekend, man, it was perfect.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Time.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
That's crazy. So you know, you just talked about family
and all that, and this just kind of ties it
all together. And as I said at the beginning, you know,
even the first one felt this way too, but this
one even more so. It's real grown folk music man.
And you know, maybe because I'm I turned a certain
age this year, I don't, you know, for h and

(19:54):
five zero whatever haters. But you know a lot of
times when I say grown man and music, they think
I'm talking about like rock him or l or something like.
Not really, it doesn't mean old music. This means like
music that has like substance to it, or talks about
a lifestyle. And I feel like a lifestyle meaning out
like out in the streets. I mean lifestyle like just

(20:14):
hanging out with your family and just doing grown man stuff,
you know, not laundry, but just like doing things, you
know what I mean. Maybe maybe that's in there, maybe
it's in part three. You're gonna be doing, you know,
songs about laundry and your checking account and balancing books
or something. But what what I'm trying to say is
I get that's that was the feel of the vibe

(20:35):
I got from this, And maybe I've never been in
North Carolina. Maybe that's the difference with North Carolina. Maybe
you feel like you're a little more trendy there where
Pittsburgh kind of come back home and kind of more grounded.
I guess, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
It just it brought me back to that that that
You're right, they bring me back to that, you know,
that culture, you know, because I did not start recording
Homology until March bro so, and I was already here
in January, like you know, I got back right in
the middle of the middle of winter. And so yeah,
that's that's where I drew all my songs, Like I
got everything done and recorded up to Man and mixed
down and masters. So yeah, it brought a lot of

(21:09):
that rust belt you know, that northern mature, old school
jazzy and like you said, grow man music. And and like
I said, the Homology imbalances that lifestyle, you know, like
maturing wi is it it up making the right decisions
some stories in the past, you know, and some stories
in the current, you know, making the right decisions, even
being selective with selecting the right woman, like you know,

(21:31):
even that one song I've waited brand news on You know, he's.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
From Pittsburgh, but he lives in Atlanta. And that's my
best friend. That's the guy.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Him and I were in a group, you know, years ago,
so you know, when it comes to us like doing songs,
all the guys at the features with Minus Blessed Picasso,
He's from Virginia. These are guys I grew up with
in my city, and uh, you know, and it's just love.
Like you know when you jump on jump on tracks
like that, it's like organic, you know, it just flows,
you know.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
Man, that's awesome. And you know the last episode I
had Messiah of man is Own, you're familiar with him.
He was from Pittsburgh Tone Folks aka Messiah Madness. He
was on my last episode from he's from Pittsburgh. I
didn't know if you guys ever you know, cross pads
or even know about each other's music. But it's funny,
like two episodes of a row, I'm talking to somebody
from Pittsburgh. So it's kind of cool. You don't get
a lot of Pittsburgh, you know what I mean, guests

(22:17):
on here, so it's it's kind of cool to do that.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's dope.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Man, No, I never I never met him, man, because
I've been out of I've been out of the city
for a while, so coming back, you know, I might
get a chance to run into him.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
You know, it's a whole new scene probably from you know,
the first time you're there till now, and if you
ever go back to North carolina'll probably be the same thing.
You'd be a whole different scene there. And I remember
last time I was talking to you, it was you're
having some issues with grilling, like somebody was complaining you
were grilling too early in the daytime. So hopefully in Pittsburgh,
you know, you can throw those brought worst or whatever
whatever you eat over there on the grill and you're

(22:49):
you're good.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah, yeah, man, I'd like to I'd like to start smoking,
like you said, like smoking some things early, man, if
I can get on you know, get on there at
four in the morning, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Or five. I mean that's a lot that is kind
of early, though. They'll thinking about.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
It, dude, this yeah, man, I mean I get up
at like seven thirty unwillingly, you're talking about four or five.
If I could, if I could do it, if everybody's
okay with it.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, man, tough man now because we're in because you know,
like in North Carolina, we had all that yard.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
You know how it is down south you don't get
that yard.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
Yeah, extra space, right.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, and you know how it is up there, especially
like Pennsylvania. You know how like tight the streets gets.
So we live in a like a brownstone like those
like tight, so I can't. I mean, I got a
grill back here, but they're really gonna smell it. You know,
it's gonna flat, yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Like right right, And like I said earlier, I have
a balcony, so I'm in a I'm in a condo building.
So if somebody's grilling like next to me or underneath me,
it kind of comes up and I could smell it, like,
oh damn, I should be grilling. What am I doing?
So it's like, you know when people are doing, you
know what everybody's making, you know what everybody's eating. Yeah,
I'm like, yeah, there's some pros and conspt but I'm

(23:58):
sure North Carolina was kind of cool to kind of
have your own in space and have a little bit
layout room, I guess, you know, but now you're a
little closer, you know, it goes back and forth. Man,
you're you're closer to people. Maybe that helps some reflection
on the album. And yo, man, and this album is crazy,
and like you said, a lot of tracks and mister
U Haul makes sense now you're talking about the Big

(24:19):
Move and that's one of my favorite tracks. And I
like how that starts the album off and kind of
kicks it off and kind of gives an idea where
you're going talk about that that initial song, mister U Haul.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, yeah, well, thank you man. That that track. Yeah,
it kind of inspired off of that move.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Man.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
It it was smooth. It was it was smooth.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
It was like the right pitch, you know what I mean,
the right tone like for the for the intro, because
you don't want nothing too aggressive and nothing too too slow,
but you want something like right there, you know what
I mean. I felt like that was a good a
good start, man. And at that move, that move, Man,
mature with the move. Now moving with a kid, you know,
so it's a lot different than moving just by yourself,
like when we first moved, you know.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, And I can't even imagine what it's like to
you know, not just moving from like a house or
part in the same city. But going from a state
and then driving you know how many miles that is?
But was it was it just one movie? Able to
do it all in one U haul? Or did you
have to go back and forth or how did that
work out?

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Bro, So my wife and I bro, like you're gonna
laugh at this story. We were like, yo, if it
can't fit, it's gone.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
So we was were bro. We were fitting.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
It was so funny because we left North Carolina, like
you know, like it was because we moved up here.
We got up here Janeway first New Year's Day, and
so like traffic wise, it wasn't bad, you know what
I mean, Like people were still drunk and everything, so
it was cool.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
But the funny thing you smurve.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
But I have so much stuff. That's why I'm swerving.
I'm not drunk. I got I got I got equipment
in the back.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, you know, we we filled up the we filled
up the entire U haul.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
We got kind of like you know, we had some
movers to help us out too, you know, like in
between and we left North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Man, it was seventy degrees seventy five was perfect.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Right, and uh, we got in the truck we started rolling.
Once you get through that top part of West Virginia,
like getting towards Morgantown, Bro, it was a whole white out.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Snow, so much snow. Bro.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
We were from seventy to snow and like twenty degrees
and like within those hours, Bro, we couldn't see anything.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
It was it was like a blizzard and we we uh,
you know how Pittsburgh is, It's kind of like hilly and.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Mountains and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, man, Yeah, Like once we got up to the top,
it was super uh, super white out, bro. Like it
was like to the point where you gotta have that
you know, those snow tires you're climb up the hill,
you know what I mean. And the dudes from North Carolina,
they were like, Yo, we never seen snow like this,
We never seen mountains this crazy.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
So we ended up paying for They had a little
hotel and they recovered and then we started in the morning.
But yeah, man, it was it was a process because
like you said, you have the kids, you got the dog.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
My dog broke some stuff.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
He broke the computer and monitors that I held up
a little bit of the recording, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
Let the dog back in North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yeah, yeah, right, seriously, man, man, it was crazy, man,
But I never actually I don't know, man.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
I think I was heightened because I was like fired up.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
But then, like you said, after the move, I just collapsed, man,
her and I just completely collapse in a little It's
a lot.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
Yeah, Like I said, it's not just moving from city,
you know, inside the city limits of where you already were.
It's you're moving from a different state and different climate.
And yeah, you're you're familiar with Pittsburgh, so that's good, right,
But on one hand, but still you got all this shit
to put away and you got to figure out Sometimes
it's fun to kind of redecorate and redo things like

(27:29):
the way you want. You can start from scratch and reset.
But that's a lot, man. It's it's salute to you.
I'm doing a salute salute to you for doing that
because I hate moving. It's one of the worst things
you could do in your life. But there's always it sucks,
ass man, because you realize how much stuff you have,
and like you said, some of it can't come, some
of it doesn't make the cut, some of it.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Just some of it just doesn't make the cut and
you realize how much money you just threw You're like,
whoa man, we threw so much money up and you
know so much that gotta happen.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Man, you gotta get light bulbs, you gotta start it.
You know, are blowing out, you know what I mean?
You know you know how it is.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yeah, it's like playing Moving Survivor, Like you don't make
the cut. This doesn't make the cut, and then you've
got to buy new, like you just said, new things
because the other stuff either doesn't fit or it's gonna break.
Like I got some Ikea shelves and I'm worried that
whenever I move that they're just gonna fall apart, like
the minute start taking things off of them because they're
not really made out of anything. They're glamorized cardboard basically,

(28:26):
So that's just gonna break. You know, movers don't care
about your stuff as much as you do.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
So yeahah, yeah, they're throwing it, you know what I mean,
They're throwing it through a dagon wall.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
You know, right, I might be making an old reference,
but there's an old Richard Pryor movie from the eighties
called Moving where they kind of did what you just said.
And King Kong Bunny the wrestler is one of the
one of the movers, and he's like throwing just shit
and just he was like having heart attack watching him.
Loload up the truck because they're going from I don't
know where they're moving from, but they're going to Idaho.

(28:59):
So it's crazy crazy, but well care don't care how
much you're pain, it doesn't matter. But thankfully Homology Too
made the truck. And that's what we're talking about here
with King Droit the new album Volume two, and and

(29:22):
talk about for people who heard Volume one and maybe like, Okay,
what am I in for Volume two? Is there something
that you know, maybe is a little bit different. What
do you think people should hear when they hear volume
two and maybe they look for they might remind them
or maybe be different from Volume one?

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, I was. I would say a little bit more creativity.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Like my boy, my brother Arsenal from Penlords Man, he's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Man.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
He was like, I put that tag on if you've
seen it in my bio.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
But he said basically because I you know, I sang
like on a symbology, you know, on that record, right,
And then like you know the other tracks that I had,
like where I've done a little bit of singing or
playing around the harmonize.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
And he's like, dude, you're the very white of the
undergund album.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
And I started, yeah, yeah. That was like, Bro, that's crazy, man,
and we just start laughing. But I think the sympology
was pretty creative. I like the uh I guess you
could say, like the track I did with Penn Lords
with with Jay Rothburn, right, that was a pretty dope track.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
Man.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
It was kind of given a little bit of a
you know, like bars because we kept the bars in there.
You know, we stayed in pockety because I wanted to
have a good balance with you know, a little bit
of harmonizing, a little bit singing, a little bit of
you know, flow character, but at the same time you
want to also keep it hip hop. So I think
those features also kept a balance with it as well.
Even with Bossy Shots to my man, Bossy, like that
sample was crazy the Reassurance track, and.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
There was hardly too much to the hook.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
We just kept it basic minimum, but the lyrics and
the storytelling was so fire, bro. And it just makes
you that that song that cross over to summer and
it can cross over to a wintertime philm you.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Know what I mean, hasact it got that good mix.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
So those two tracks sort of tough. The song that
I did also a brand new two songs that deal
with him.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Yeah I see right the track seven crash Outs and
where We're From, right yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
And where We're From Those are dope to man, those
are amazing, bro. I think those tracks are really cool
because it brings like a you know, a totally different
feel kind of give you you know, builds up the
pace you know of the album, so it doesn't stay
stagnant or the same. And there's there's also a little
bit of laughter in there because you know, the way
he was, you know, the way he was flowing, and
we were making fun of porn Hub and talking about like,

(31:29):
you know what I mean, like people, you know what
I mean, So you gotta so hey.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, yeah, we're just so.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
And we were just talking about you know me, just
like yo, you gotta make the right decision and you're
crashing out over the wrong things, and and it was
just like it's hilarious. But they like bringing like a
little bit of comedy in there. I think that's the
beautiful thing with with himology, because like you gotta bring
some you know, a little bit of comedy, you gotta
bring some bars. The beat's gotta be fire, and the
features gotta be really good solid features will balance. And

(31:59):
I think that's a little I don't know. And Drew
Prince too the song and Drew Prince as well, so
I think I rose, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that rose
the song and shout out to him man and my
brother from Detroit. Man, it's like those are the guys
I work with. But it's like the same thing like
with a lot of these tracks. It's a good balance, man,
in between like you know, character, a little bit of
my personality and the people I work with their personality

(32:20):
and character and lyricism. And I don't know, man, I
think that's it's a little different because it's a little
bit more in depth, I will say, than Homology Won.
But like you said, the Homology one was its good
as well, man, And I forget how good it was
in terms of the volume for that, you know, in
terms of the quality of music that came out with it,
the production, the lyrics, you.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
So I really still don't know, man, which one's better.
I'm always asking for someone's opinion which one's better?

Speaker 4 (32:44):
To tell, man, I think I think the right answer
would be that they both compliment each other, right, and
you want people to like one and also like the other.
And for those who haven't heard part one since what
maybe two years ago, and they hear part two, they
go back and then let me hear let me hear one.
And you had that more comparing contrast. It's more recent
because it's been a minute that I played one, so

(33:05):
I would almost have to go back and kind of
compare them a little bit because it's been a while.
But I do remember that that was also on some
Grown Man stuff. But I feel like this one kind
of kicked it up a notch.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, yeah, this one felt like it kicked it up.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Like it's like you could tell that the maturity set
in and it was still comedy, you know what I mean,
the first one, because you always like to have like
a little bit of comedy, man, you know what I mean,
just to you know, break things down and ease it
down and bring you know, like whatever representing, because that's
what that's the type of people I like to have
around me too, man. And you know, good people that
got good what's called a good character about them, right,
do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Good? Bounce to them. You know, we could crack up
and laugh and talk crazy. That's how all my friends are,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
It's just like basically you're not even friends, man, You're
like family, you know what I mean? Like you want
to it's almost like inviting, And that's how I want
to bring homology to a level where I'm not talking.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Shit and bringing people down like like that.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
But I would also like, you know, provide that like
you know in fight. You know, it could be a
lot easier you know, on the people to hear, you
know what I mean. So I think that's that's the
dope thing about homology too.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
And like you said, it's nineteen tracks, so something has
to kind of break it up a little bit. And
you've got the transitions in there, which I like a lot.
I like how you kind of dropped in these little
drops here and there in between songs, and like you said,
the comedy its kind of gives a little something to
keep it moving, because yeah, it'd be hard for nineteen
tracks to all kind of have the exact same you know, feeling,

(34:21):
and you got to break it up a little bit
to give people some variety within the continuity, if that
makes any sense.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
So, yes, yes, you're right. And that's the longest I've
ever made a album. I think sixteen was the first
for Homology Wanted in nineteen. It's the highest I ever
had in terms of a count of track, In terms
of a count of tracks, that's.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
A lot, man, that's and you know what, Like you said,
you've got something you didn't even use, and he got
enough for the third one. Maybe that one's maybe you
hit twenty on that, maybe you hit that next number,
you go up a little bit, or you can always cheat, right,
you always do a remix or something or scattery bag.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
You never know, bro by Big Chymology three, like a
Michael Jackson's thriller video. Man, Like it might be like
on Hulu, like where it's a forty five minute, forty
five minute song.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
Oh man, there you go, it's premiere. Well MTV doesn't
play videos anymore, but premiere somewhere.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Exactly what was that?

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Like the subscription Hulu wien bro where they were like
the little little short films. They're like scary, but it's
like thirty five forty minutes.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Oh man Man, speaking of like old singers, as you
mentioned Barry White earlier, the track slowed down, Man, I'm
not even kidding. I went to my records off. I
was looking for my Yarbow and People's and loose Ends
because I know I have those records, and that's what
it relied to me of I was stinking of those
like those eighties, like you know, R and B joints,

(35:42):
And I'm sure that was the intention, but you definitely
get had me thinking about some of those old records
from that era that I definitely haven't heard in a while.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
But I like, yeah that that slowed down, Bro. I
love that track too.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
And that's another one I literally forgot about because of
so many songs, right, but that slowed down, Yeah, that,
Luke Man.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
It's just that it really brings you into.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
The summertime, phielm Man. It feel like you're about the life,
you know what I mean. That's the part, like you
said where you were mentioning before you want to get
on the balncony, chill, go out, go for a drive.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
You just wanted your cars clean down.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
You just want to take the lady out and you're like,
you want to bump something smooth, but it's dope and
it's uppace, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
It's like that type of VID for that track.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
And like you said, them eighties man, when you get
those eighty records, man, and that's one of my things, right,
I love like that that that sounds specifically just because
of that sound is completely different, you know what I mean,
even the instruments that were utilizing the real authenticity, you know,
everything's authentic and uh and and like you said, the
bpms fit me, you know what I mean pretty well,
Like sometimes some beats just don't fit my voice.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Bro, you know right, yeah, no, I see where you're
going with that too. And you hit on something there
with that eighties sound, because a lot of it, you
know something, you know, if you want just gonna be
generic about it all, I have a lot of synthesizer
and you know, keyboards or something like that, like kind
of programmed music. But we have program music now, but
the program music back then, and it's least has sounded
more like instrumentation. So there's a lot of layers to

(37:01):
some of those eighties records, man, that that still maybe
it's just as I'm old. I just grew up with them,
so I like it. You know, Hanging by a String
by Lou Sands. I can play that all day and whatever.
But ye, but yeah, man, that this that record definitely
took me back to that era and reminded me of
an age for better or worse.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
So but yeah, you're right, you know, you're right. It's
just the music sounds ten times better. Like I don't know,
it's just like sing too bro like, like.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
Oh dude, yeah, because all the singers now, they I
swear to I'm not like an old man. Now they
kind of sound the same. But I don't mean they
sound the same as in their voice of the same there,
the way they sing is the same. That they're all
kind of trained this I don't know how to say it,
Like they don't have their own voice within their voice,
if that makes any sense. Like if you hear like
Anita Baker, for instance, I think there was like I

(37:48):
need a Baker sample in there somewhere. Yeah, you hear
her voice, you know, it's her, like it's not a
question now and it and it's like part of her personality.
It's part of her character, your characteristics, you know. But
when you hear like I don't want to rip anybody
today singer X and they just sound like singer why
to me again, maybe I'm just an old man who's
complaining because I have a six year older sings these

(38:10):
songs all day, and I'm like, I can't tell the difference.
It sounds like the same this same shit to me
right now.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
You absolutely right, because it sounds terrible like and it's
right because like you said, you can hear, oh, that's
m j oh, that's Prince, that's to Nita Baker, this
is yes, you know what I mean, Like you could
tell that's their that's their stamp. And it's crazy because
if you, like you said, if you play all them
homologies or just even even my old previous projects like
you mentioned too, like in the past, like a lot

(38:39):
of my projects, man, are sampled up like crazy, and
everything's from that time frame, like everything's from that seventies eighties,
you know what I mean? Or you know, or I
might grab a Curtis Mayfield, like Curtis Mayfield, man, that's crazy, bro,
Like Curtis Mayfield is nuts.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
I feel like they used up all of super flyback
in the nineties and some of the eighties from his
you know the like what's that? What's that track? Super
Fly and that one's used like to death, you know,
and a lot of the other records on there. I
think Snoop had a ton of samples from Doggy Style
from Chrits Mayfield. But that being said, I'm sure there's
something that was left that could be used from that album.
We're just bring something back we haven't heard in a

(39:15):
minute from uh exactly. He has some classics, dude.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, man, don't classic, it's just like something like you said.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Man, it's just nothing like those that timeframe, and I'm
pretty sure were like you said, we could reenact some
things probably, but it's just a lot of the.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Singers now, like you said, it's it's the same.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
That's why we like, we'll talk to my wife and
I will be like, she's like, I don't know, it's
somebody like it was like Ariana Grande or something like that,
but I.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Was trying not to say her name. Dude, that's exactly
thinking off bad bro, No, go ahead, keep going, keep going.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
But I was like, I was like listening to a
song and I was like it was like on Disney
and I'm like, oh, this is not bad, and he
was like, I don't know who it is.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
It's one of them girls. And we looked it up
and it.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
Was it was you know what I mean, because one
of them girls.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, one of them girls. It was like, no big deal,
you know, because everyone sounds.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
They don't have to like like they do that same thing.
I don't know what it is. You know, I guess
I'm old. I don't want to use that as like
a crutch, like, oh it's because you're old. No, maybe
I'm not old. Maybe I just have a better ear,
and I can just tell like you sound like the
other one. Be an original, and especially in hip hop,

(40:21):
you don't ever want to be told you sound like somebody.
That's like an insult. So it's like you're biting somebody.
So I would imagine singing. It's got to have some
truth to that too. You don't want to sound like
the next man or the next woman. I don't know.
Maybe I'm crazy, but that's true. Yeah, you sound like
everybody else. Everybody sounds like you. I don't know which
one it is. Somebody, somebody's copying somebody.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
It's like copy paste, bro, you know what I mean,
control Control, Control V like when they expread Excel sheet
bro like.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
You control man, just hit delete. That's what I want
to do.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
But speaking of the summertime, Pittsburgh Summers, I want to
bring up that record, you know, and for people listening,
you know, I'm talking about this as being a summer album,
but definitely play this in the winter places in the fall,
you know, whenever you're doing anything but Pittsburgh Summers. Everyonet
to hit on that tracks. I'm sure that one had
some special meeting for you being at your back at
Pittsburgh and you got your your guys on there too.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah. That that that track.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
So that track we really wanted to like touch on
Pittsburgh Summers and that one with brand New like where
we're from. Those are two separate sounds, right, but there's
some background and meaning why I have Jay ruthbone White
on there, and the reason why and the reason why
we called that's all on Pittsburgh Summers is kind of
like the educate a lot of the people that that's
like our sound, you know what I mean, Like Pittsburgh

(41:37):
is very I don't know if you're not familiar, I mean,
I know, you know whisky if everyone knows, like you know, Whiz,
But a lot of those projects.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
That Whiz came out way before he was known.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Everything was like a fledgering sound like, you know, everything
was much more like chopped up people's lyrical a little bit.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Like you know.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Of course, you know, we spoke and stuff like that too,
but we wanted to kind of mess that together because
we don't really have a lot of people I want
to work too much together, Like in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
It's really like you know.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
What I mean, It's just it's just a different place culturally,
like in terms of you know, collaborations is not like
the South, you know what I mean, and collaborations you know,
everyone straight up just hating on.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
It's just different.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
And us three came to you know, when we all
came together put the work together. We wanted to kind
of make a mark, you know what I mean, and
kind of be like, yo, we want to make this
be an example because we have a talent here. We
have a lot of good mcs, We have a lot
of good producers, We have a lot of good you
know what I mean, like even singers. If we put
something like this together and we could put some lyrics
and bars together, like yo.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
We still have MC's here in the midst of everyone.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Trying to do this new stuff, you know what I mean,
we wanted to kind of let that be known and
we just wanted to wrap no hope. We didn't want
to overthink it, no over complications. The sample was crazy,
like you know what I mean, And I had that sample.
I probably got that beat like three years ago, and
we probably laid that verse down a year ago or two,
and it was just it was just fire, bro. And

(42:55):
then we got Jay j rufbon White on here because
he talks about he's like a Pittsburgh his story.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Man, he used to document a lot of uh, like
a lot of trailers back in like two thousands and
nineties and stuff like that, like hoods and Pittsburgh and
stuff like that. He has a lot of documentation when
YouTube first came out, and he used to upload them
before YouTube, you know, on DVDs. And these are like
areas that you don't want to frequent through, especially back
in them days.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Is everywhere and.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Every city back in the day the nineties and two
thousands was real tough, like you know.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
What I mean, And he would go in there just
like like what y'all do here? What the hoods like?
And it'd be like dudes with AK forty sevens.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
It was just like wow, you know, it was just
like projects were still projects back then.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
It was like real rough, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
And every since thing you already know, everything got cleared
up and cleaned up every season, not as I mean,
some cities are still tough, but like so much got
cleaned up is different, right, But it was like so
big for us to kind of put him on air
because he still does his thing in terms of documentation.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
He reflects on some things, brings up history and historian
things of the city.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
But but yeah, putting him on there was cool and
it was dope because he was able to kind of
like break down like our slang, our lingo, how we talk.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Every neighborhood has their own slang, every neighborhood, bro.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
And it's crazy you could just tell by someone using
like six different words like okay, I know where you're from,
like you know what I mean, which neighborhood you're from,
and it's just crazy, like you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Or one na like you know, And so it was
just dope.

Speaker 6 (44:18):
Man.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
I think the track overall was dope because we want.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
To put that stamp out there, like, yo, we can
still round, we can still spin bars. Fam Ross's Arsenal's
verse was crazy, Sam ROSSI had verse two that was insane.
I just want to you know, like you said, the
bases were loaded, man.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
You want to hit the grand slam and you just
want to go ahead and go go firing right after
them to set it.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
Up tiny Aaron Judge. You know those tracks, man, just
knock them the hell out.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Yeah, you know what I mean, Like it just feels
so good, bro.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Because like because like you said in Today's time that
we're living in a hip hop man.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
And I'm not saying like.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
People people if like people write bars just to satisfy.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
People, like they're like you see it, I'm right, I'm
spinning bars.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
See.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
It's kind of like I want a trophy. It's like, bro,
it's like, first of all, be yourself and just fucking.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Rap, like you know what I mean, Just spit, you
know what I mean, Just spit like it doesn't even
matter if you stumbled a little bit, just like rhyme.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
And and that's the thing, bro, I like, no concepts.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
I don't like to really go heavy on concepts a lot, like,
you know, because sometimes you can have a rough day
and I'm like, Yo, just rop, I'm gonna send you
a beat and that's you know, And that's how I
collaborate with a lot of the guys I work with,
And that's that's how I sent that over you know,
Pittsburgh Summers. I wanted to send that over there to
those guys and they're like, Yo, what's the what's the.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
What's the soundscape?

Speaker 6 (45:30):
With?

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Like, what's the topic? I said, Bro, just rap. I'll
just follow over every direction you're going, you.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
Know, right, And that's some Sometimes that's some of the
best stuff when it's it's not necessarily like a template
for how it's gonna be. Let's just do what we
do and see how it comes out, and it's organic
like that. And I'm sure those guys are appreciative of you,
you know, letting them just do their thing like that too,
because sometimes, like you said, you know, there's some spinners
out here that don't have a lane to go to
because it's everything's changing so much, and it's good to

(45:57):
just get on the mic, man and just do some stuff.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, like you said, you could have
a hell of a day, man, a terrible day, and
sometimes you just want to vent. And it's just like
sometimes you want that bro, you want to go in
there like you know, what the hell with him? I'm
just gonna and just fucking rap bro, big people. Everybody
pissed me off the day. Bro, I'm just gonna go
in the lab with some headsets on.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Right.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Therapy, man, you know what I mean, It's true therapy.
And I think I said that in one of my songs.
On that same song, I said, there's a difference between
knowledge and bars, you know what I mean. And when
you just kind of like I'm not rapping to satisfied
bars for people to clap like this, that's kind of
It's kind of like it's kind of like sports too.
You see that nowadays? Bro, Like, yeah, people aren't playing
a play bro. They're playing for their self. It's real selfish.

(46:38):
And then you're just like yo, like you're not here
trying to win the like you're just playing for highlights
on on on ESPN and Instagram, Like you're not actually
trying to win the chip, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (46:47):
You know, and this is the old man in me again,
you know, watching sports and stuff. You know, sometimes I
feel like when someone like it's a big hit or
it's a touchdown, it's it's more about the planned celebration
or the move that they're gonna do after, like they
couldn't wait to do that as opposed to scoring the
points or getting you know what I mean. And that's
like old man saying that because you know, the get

(47:09):
the ball back to the official, Like that's how it
used to be and that's how people used to complain.
And now it's like it's like synchronized swimming in the end,
zonem Like what is going on? Like why is the
whole team doing this? Like you guys obviously worked on this. This,
This isn't just happen just this isn't spontaneous exactly. I
want something in between. I want celebration, but I don't
want it to look like twenty guys are practicing this
all week. I don't know, he's silly, but whatever.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Exactly, bro, And you'd be like you check it out.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
You look at the record, You're like, bro, like we
freaking like one in twelve.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Bro, Like why are you what the hell? You see
the record. You just get frustrated when you see it.
You're like, bro, we're one at twelve, you know.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
What's Yeah, well that's the thing. I'm a Bears fan,
so I think my real frustration is like seeing a
lot of teams doing that to my team, you know,
seeing the Detroit Lions all doing you know, some motown
dance in the end zone on what my team is
getting lit up on Thanksgiving. I think I think, really
the problem is is that I'm rutting for bad teams

(48:08):
and you're I don't know if you're a Steelers fan,
but good luck with that Aaron Rodgers crab yuck.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yeah that's the thing too. But I was getting ready
to stay up man at Aaron Rodgers move. Terrible, Bro.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
I think we should have I mean, like you said,
we were, we were blessed to have Justin Fields, and.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
They kept it. I don't know what the heck happened there, Man,
They had Russell and Justin Fields like start all over
with even older guy and then.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Yeah, come on, man, like you know what I mean,
because he was still young, and I think it kind
of I think we messed up that that relationship with
Justin Fields after we signed him and we ended up
bringing uh, what's his name and man Russell on top
of him, and I think it just threw him off, like, wait,
I'm supposed.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
To be the QB one, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
And yeah, it's kind of weird that the whole post
Roethlisberger thing is just kind of you know whatever, but
it's right.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
It is, man.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
It sucks because we're historical franchises, man, like you guys Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Like right, we're the old old.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
American classic you know when America was getting built, you
know what I mean. His teams are super old school man,
And it's kind of like, like you said, you lose
those thumb prints, man, those you know, that QB like
Roethlisberg or someone that's been there forever.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
Right, it's hard to replace them. It's not many teams
can just you know, get somebody replaces a legend. And
I guess the Packers are known for that. They had
far over and then they replaced them with Aaron Rodgers,
So congratulations too. Hall of Famers back to back and
the kids love is pretty good too. So it's like
they don't know what it's like to have, you know,
a shitty quarterback where I live in a city where
that's all we see. It's just the next guy who

(49:35):
is supposed to be the thing, isn't the thing followed
by the next Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
So and it sucks because look at the Patriots too, man,
they're like done, like they're done done, dude, Like in
terms of I don't know if.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
It's all right. Yeah, post Tom Brady, they've had like
just a carousel of just whatever. I can't even name
who their quarterback. It's no idea who is I don't care, man, Yeah,
I don't even care. I was gonna say, Man, there's
another track gun here that you know, kind of reminds
me of Pittsburgh a little bit too, where we're from.

(50:08):
Track when you're like dirt on the curb. I had
to like write that down. I was like, that's crazy
what he said on this track, man, talk about that song.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Oh so, like first, the first of the track was
gonna be called Uproot for Growth, right because it was
kind of like you uproot for Growth because it was
gonna be me and my boy B because he's brought
him and out for you know, we wor up with
each other. He lived in the Mont Valley area, you know,
that Mon Valley area is like an industrial area. It's
really like the the trenches, Bro. It's like everything's there's
like abandoned. It's pretty you know, it's kind of like

(50:40):
ro But uproot for growth was the meaning for that
at first. Was honestly like, hey, you know, we uprooted ourselves.
It's like a plant, you know what I mean. And
a lot of people, you know, from Pittsburgh do that.
A lot of them just leave up and leave and
then it end up coming back. But just crazy, right,
and a lot of them they end up leaving, right,
and they uproot themselves. They get planting into a new location, bro,
And then they end up like establishing roots somewhere else,

(51:02):
growing and evolving, and then they do magnificent wherever they're
at in another city, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
And they come back and.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
They do the same thing, or they stay there and
they just continue to keep building there, even like for
example that he's not a good owner though right now,
But the owner of the Carolina Panthers, he's from Pittsburgh,
you know what I mean. So he's from born and
raised in Pittsburgh, you.

Speaker 8 (51:24):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
He's you know, I don't want to touch too much
on the topic because you know how those you know,
I want to get us scrutinized.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
But you know, the you know, the old school owners
are you know what type of involvement they got going on?

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yah?

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Yeah, yeah, you know, and then you go down there
establish some roots and you know what I mean, it's
just crazy. And it's like that's on a big level,
but like even like on h my friend's level.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
You know, he moved down there and his.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Life has changed, you know, drastically in Atlanta, and uh,
he's always been a heart working guy, you know what
I mean, super hard working guy. He had the opportunities
and so like we're proud though, you know what I mean,
like where we're from, of course, and that's what the
song is like, you know we're we're from you know,
so we want to put a stamp on that too,
because it built that identity.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
And character that we do have, you know what I mean,
which we do have.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
That that gretty you know, northern rust, felt hard working
you know, blood and sweat and tears, you know what
I mean, like and you know you show up to
work even.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
You know, it's just like countless bro, it's just an automatically. Mind.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
It's you just do it, you know, it's not like
you got to think about it. You know, you just
go out there work your ass off, you know what
I mean. So we we uh the background of that
song came from that, right, But at the same time
we had j Rothbone White on their you know again
and uh my my, my push for that was to
close out that record with with him speaking upon like,
you know, the direction of our sound in terms of

(52:40):
where we came from, you know, uh, because we had
the Mailman shot out to the Mailman, the ogs, uh,
the producers and MC's that were way way before me,
you know what I mean. Like, guys, I was out
in the eighties nineties. You know, they worked with Doctor
Dre and it developed Doctor Dre sound. They developed and
you hear us all the time. I used to think
this was I used to think this was a made

(53:00):
up story when I was a kid. You know, they
were like, yo, the Mailman was very impactful and extremely
instrumental to Doctor Dre sound, And I.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Was like come on, like, you know, but I was
a kid, you know, who is that anyway?

Speaker 3 (53:12):
And then like everyone is crazy because like when you
look up the credits on them albums like Chronic and
all that his name is signature is on there, you
know what I mean, like in terms of produced and everything.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Bro right, see, and he don't get his name out
too much, you know, you know when you don't when
you don't hear it.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
That all almost right, right, And and he's so instrumental.

Speaker 8 (53:29):
Man.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
He's from Pittsburgh, man, the Hill District. Man, we have
so much history history up there, and you know, that's
like our that's like an uptown, you know what I mean,
Like like how you have like every you know, but
that's like our Harlem. And there's a lot of that
lot that out of there and talent, you know, and
my grandmother's from there, and then everyone usually you're from
mainly from the Hill to they kind we all dispersed
to every areas you know, and they'll still there historical

(53:51):
and but yeah, it was kind of like we wanted
to put that thumb print on there. Our talents get uprooted,
and we established cultures and other cities such as you know,
like the sound our industries were impacted. Yeah, you know
what I mean in Carolina And I'm not trying to
put them bad on Carolina. But what it is like,
it's what it is like Western House, like Western House
Steel that was in Homewood, and that's a Pittsburgh industry

(54:14):
and it's a planted at North Carolina and there's like
jobs down there, you know what I mean. That's like
a Pittsburgh you know what I mean, like Staple and
stamp and and it was just basically just letting people know, like,
you know, hey, like we established some of the new
cities that you have in the South and some of
them sounds like California have that's our sound, you know.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
And it wasn't like no shot a doctor.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Drake's one of the one of the best, one of
the elite producers out there. But it was just more
so like for educational purposes, you know, letting people know, like, hey,
that's actually our sound. That's why we do have the
Weisker leafas because that was always from sound like that
West Coast sound like the chill gangster or chill you
know hip hop. It was always that type of feel
with our music with jazz influence. So it's always real

(54:53):
smooth and jazzy, you know, even from production.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
See and you know, even from here like and there's
a lot of comedians who start in Chicago off to
like SATA Night Live or something. You know, people think
they're from New York, they're from here, or like that
Beyonce record few years ago, to that house sound to it,
and people had to be reminded house music came from here.
I don't know if she knew that or how she
came up with the idea to do that record, but
you know, it is what it is. You know, it's

(55:16):
sometimes stuff common moving to New York to get make
it bigger than he was here. He was never going
to grow here, you know that kind of stuff. You
hear about these stories all the time from Midwest. I
guess us cities in the middle of the country kind
of get this problem, right, So people New York or
La you gotta go to, or even Atlanta now you
gotta go somewhere else to grow I guess. So it

(55:36):
is what it is, man. You know, we're all over
the place, just people don't know it unless you tell them.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
So that is so true, man, that's that's that's like
literally the staple of that that song. It was just
like you know what I mean, like you said, like education,
like because like you said, even like bringing back and everyone,
like you know, Chicago and stuff, and it's like, right, oh,
y'all have so much talent and you hear about that
a lot and you're like, bro, man, my god.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Man, like I think and like you said too, like
sometimes you.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Uh hope your chest out with pride and you'd be like, man,
that's that's that's coming from you know, a place where
I'm from, And it feels so good and it gives you.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
It gives you more ammo to be great at your lane,
you know what I mean, and be able.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
To continue to work really hard and put whatever you do,
you know, like reveris rap, sports or whatever, or comedy
like you said, our movie, if you're you know, if
you're writing and film industry, just to keep working so
hard and keep pushing and to keep that going in
your spirit because it is like a reflection because I
used to think that, bro, Like I was like, oh,
all we had was wis Kalifa, like you know when
I was younger, because we're all about the same age,

(56:35):
you know what I meant. Six And and then when
Mac Miller came out, I was like, dank, So we
only had two mcs, but then, like you know, like
you said, throughout the time, people are like, no, man,
we had so much more than that, like than you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
And then we and then like you said, you do
your you know, you go back to your studies.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
You're like, damn, man, there's a hell of a lot
of people that came out back in my grandma's time.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
And you know what I mean, you start thinking about like, nationwide,
people know about these two people, but within Pittsburgh those
two barely even scratches surfs. So what is going on?
And you can say about every major city that's not
New York and LA probably and you could say, yeah,
you know, they've got this person, that person and so on,
and man, that's that's a lot there, dude, Pittsburgh stand up.

(57:14):
You know you guys are definitely doing your thing out there. Man,
let people know where they could find obviously, band camp
is where I've seen a lot of your stuff is.
I'll let them know how they could follow you and
find your music online.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Yeah, yeah, band camp definitely.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
And I will say I've been back, like you know,
active on my Instagram too.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
So my Instagram is I am King of Droit?

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Is I a m A I N G A, D
R O I T is I am Kingdroit and also
of course all streaming platforms as well. Of course you
know your YouTube, you can look it up quickly if
you just want to hear a couple of tracks, but
of course if you want to hear the entire album
as well. Of course iTunes, Apple everywhere.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Amazon Music.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
So and like I said, I've been much more active
on my Instagram too, So, like if you want to
hit me up or reach out to me, or or
do features, or or just even like you said, like
sound what's it called soundbats or soundclips or sound drops
if you don't want that or whatever, you just want
to or just want to shout at talk to me.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Whatever about anything. Man, I'm on there. We can talk
about anything. But I've been back on there a lot.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
I mean, you're definitely you know, people listening. If you're
interested in bothering him with the slide into d MS,
will be careful, you know, don't bother him with stupid
stuff like I got bothered with a couple of months ago.
Just just keep it, keep it straight to the point.
But yeah, you're you're one of the few that you know,
I'll type you something and you'll hit me back within minutes.
I'm kind of like that too. I don't like a
lot of I don't know how to word. I don't

(58:32):
like stuff like sitting there lingering. I like to reply
and get it out of the the inbox and then
notifications because I don't want my phone keep telling me
I forgot to read something. So yeah, I like I
like to get it all out the way. So man,
it salute to you, and uh, big up for coming
back on the show. And it's album. Man, I think
we said a lot of words about it. It's it's
kind of gritty, it's got that throwback feel a little bit,
and it's definitely some grown man stuff. And grab a cigar.

(58:54):
I don't smoke, but grab a cigar, light it and
just let it. Let it burn so you get the
smell of video if you know, some good and some
brandy or some Coniak or whatever you drink.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
I'm gonna tell you one thing. I'm gonna tell you
so funny.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
My boy's been ripping off me for like these past
couple of days since the album dropped.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
He's just phenotography crazy. And we talked yesterday. He said, Bro,
this made me want to iron a button up. But
I was like, what, man, there it is and he
was like, bro, it's for like a light like incense
in the house and just walked around, you know, the
whole house. But it was just funny because he's just
been talking about right though, man, how it feels, you know.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
And people might think like, oh, he's no, that that's
a that's a compliment, at least at least in my
my ideas. That's what you want.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
That's what you want, you know, that's what you want.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Man.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
I haven't seen like those stick incense in a long time.
I'm sure they still sound somewhere. But you got a
bunch of these like coals candles that you get just
if you never light, so I might have to light
one when I hang up with you here play the
album in the house, just like one of these. He's
like frosted vanilla coals candles that we always get that
we never use.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
The great man where you like to butt man, get
the house gone, and yeah, you know what I mean.
It makes me hungry, bro, like what I spelled like
vanilla or caramel. I'm like ready to eat. We find
something sweet there?

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
It is?

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
What is one of the few times I do this
early enough where I'm still drinking my ice coffee in
the morning while I'm talking to you. So yeah, man,
that's perfect there there, it is right there, man, too
early for you know, my jack and coke or whatever
I like to drink. But this right here, that's what
do with the ice coffee playing Homology to living a
grown man life. Man, whether you're in the Steel City
or in the Windy City or wherever you're from, Man,

(01:00:38):
go grab this album.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
Salute to you, dude. And I'm looking forward to part three. Man,
I'm already waiting for that one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Oh that's fright.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
We were gonna get back in there, bro, We definitely,
I'm definitely we won't build.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
We're gonna build on it. That's what we definitely want
to do. Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
That's what's up. King of Droid is in the building
talking about his new album, Homology. To make sure you
follow him online. Check out the album, check out Homology,
want and it. I know you've got some other stuff too,
if you want to promote anything else that you got
out there, and you've got a couple other songs and
albums are on. I saw a bandk we got a
lot of stuff on there, tons of tons of stuff
in the chamber for people to listen to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Yes, yes, yeah, quick follow up. Like you said, we
definitely wanna build on three, you know, and I think, uh,
you know, I'll be cooking up with the Penlords a
lot more too. We got some some work that we're
putting in as well.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Arsenal and I am going we're gonna work on a
joint tape, So we're gonna kind of start this week
actually on the joint albums will be kind of similar
to the homology, kind of like Grown, but it's actually
gonna probably have a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Of that nas and easy feel, you know what I mean,
like back in the day.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
Now you're talking language here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna be you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
So we're gonna we're gonna start working on that, you know,
in the next well this Sunday, we've been you know,
we've been talking about it. We've been talking about it
for a while since I was in Carolina. We just
never got a chance to get around to it. But
we yeah, we're definitely in you know, pretty much putting
it in the crock pot, man, And we're gonna let it,
you know, and we're gonna start building off of that.
And and yeah, man, probably by one more thing two

(01:02:01):
on my end.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
For the wrap of twenty five. Man, my gosh, it's June.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
It's already half way. I was telling my wife the
other day, like, can you believe that stupid ass Christmas
is six months away?

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Ready, Yeah, I'm sitting back here like, man, we just
got out of the winter, bro, like we just literally
it just stops.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Knowing it like almost April pound.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
Yeah, it's already got thinking about holidays the big ones. Man,
it's too much. And with a little with little kids,
it's like they're amplified you know where they are.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
When I was single, man, I didn't care about decorating
or anything that because I didn't do it. I didn't care.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Yeah, to get a tree, it's right, bro, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
It's like it's different now and now thinking about that
because I because my goal is and now as you
said that, I'm gonna have to speak the process up
now because you said Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
But I'm not speed the process up.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
I'm trying to work on a new tape as well,
another tape because you don't like to do two a year.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
You know how I used to do, like to you
two a year. Yeah, you know the season like summer
and like uh.

Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
Like you got a fall thing coming, yeah, yeah, summer
in the.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
Fall like lake fall, you know what I mean, going
into winter, right, you know. So my goal is to
get something out honestly by like around Thanksgiving or the
beginning of December, you know, and it's gonna The goal
was probably like ten tracks.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
I don't want to overkill it because we just had
a crazy album nineteen tracks just now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
So I'm gonna try to get some dope features on
here and we're gonna keep it. We're probably gonna it's
gonna be some jazz influence, bro, but it's gonna be
more so like bars. You know, I'm gonna trying to
lighte onp some bars. So we're gonna bring that hip
hop because, like we were discussing earlier, being back here
up north, just in general, you know what I mean,
Like wherever when d City is still city, you know, Philly, Pennsylvania,
wherever you're going, it just gives you that MC filling back, bro,

(01:03:41):
like you know what I mean, just gives me that
one to wrap.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Yeah, on another level again, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
It sounds like again I keep saying, it sounds like
the old man in me. You know, I'm always looking
for the lyrics and the substance, and you know, I
get it. It's there and you gotta look for it.
But it's definitely out there. So people who I know
a lot of heads like there's nothing out there no more.
It's all you know, you know, tattoo faced dudes like, no,
it's not. But that's what they want you to think

(01:04:07):
it is. So you just got to search a little harder.
You'll find it and look for this fall, I'm drinking
my pumpkin spice iced coffee. I'll be listening to what
you got out there coming out here, that Tate. I'll
be looking forward to that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Yes, I can't wait. Bro, I'm gonna hit you, rypt
says come out, I'll shoot it over to you.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Yeah, Man, I don't drink that alcoholic I used to. Man,
I'm more laid back with that so but still definitely
once in a while, you know, drink it up. And
Homology Too is a perfect album having the background while
you're doing that. So everybody make sure you go do that,
Grab yourself a glass of something. Check out King of
Droid Man. Big up for coming through.

Speaker 11 (01:04:39):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
Glad everything worked out with the move and everything and
you're all settled and now we can expect some more
fire from you coming up the next months and so on.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Thank you, Bro. I appreciate you having me you get
on the show.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
Brother, you got it man, anytime. King your Droid the
new album Homology too, Don't sleep go check them out,
follow him online, and big salute to my man, King
of Droid for coming through representing the Steel City.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Big up, man, bro, one love man. I appreciate you.
You got it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
Really cool talking with King Droid and always good hearing
from him. Like I had mentioned before, you know who's
on the show a couple of years ago and he's
made the move and everything. Now he's in Pittsburgh, and
it was really cool to hear his perspective on it
because he's making these two albums in two different places.
And I called it, you know, before he came on,
I was joking him like, yeah, this is some grown
man music. I feel like, you know, having some alcohol
and sitting on my balcony listening to this because you know,

(01:05:24):
when you get older, you don't want to hear the
same stuff that maybe a twenty year old wants to hear.
You know, they're they're rapping about. I don't know what
they're I don't even know because I'm listening to it,
but you know, girls and money whatever. It's that that
those things aren't important because I'm not really looking to
hear those I want to hear something that I can
more relate to and just kicking back and just relaxing
and having something to drink or whatever. That's more my lane.

(01:05:45):
Even if we're not drinking the same drink, the concept
is still the same. So I appreciate that he made
an album like this and we're talking about how singers
will sound the same, and I was thinking Ariana Grande
the whole time, and I didn't say her name, but
he did, so yeah, I had to kind of call
around out because I, you know, I'm not not really
a fan. I mean I'm not I'm not her demographic,
So it's okay, I don't have to like it. Doesn't

(01:06:07):
she doesn't care that I don't. The point is is
that everybody sounds the same to me, and she is
one of them, like I can't name a song of hers.
I know who she is, I know she exists. I'm
sure she could sing fine, she sounds like she can.
But I watched Wicked. It was hard to watch, but
I sat through it. It's just you know, you you
could sing, but can you sing? You know what I mean?

(01:06:27):
Like that, like are you Stephanie Mills over here? Are
you like Gladys Knight? Not really? You know, like Eric
Abadu does something when I hear her singing. I don't
get these reactions from these new these new school you
know girls you know or guys. Am I trying to
make it a gender thing. Maybe shows like the Voice
ruined it because they all have to have like a
look and a sound, and they're all trying to sound
the same because they're all trying to get to the

(01:06:48):
same level of success that they think that's what it
means to be a good singer, just to sound like
this person. Maybe back in the day they were influenced
by people, but maybe the difference was they would take
something they were influenced with and they would craft it
to make their own. It just feels like everybody just
carbon copy and it's a shame. I think that reflects
music in all genres. So not trying to, you know,
point her out, single her out, but I guess I

(01:07:09):
did so. I know she never listens, she won't care.
But whatever, I did want to bring up to to
King of Droit, but I didn't think of it when
we're recording the interview. You know that awful movie me
and DJ Riwan watched for Infinite Torture a couple episodes back.
That raping movie was set in Pittsburgh. I forgot to
ask him, have you ever seen that movie? And does
that represent Pittsburgh whatsoever? Kissing? He has no idea what

(01:07:30):
I'm talking about. You've never seen that stupid movie. Anyone
will know it all what the hell rapping is, and
I'm sure it does not represent Pittsburgh whatsoever. But speaking
of representing Pittsburgh, and it's hot out here Chicago, man,
it's like one hundred degrees. It's it's hot. It's gross.
I called it an interview complain weather. That's what we
have here. So this track right here, we're going to
play Pittsburgh summers. We talked about it in the interview

(01:07:50):
featuring Penn Lords and Jay ruff Bone White from King
of Droid from his new album Homology Volume two. Here
we Go. It's hot outside, so it's a perfect time
to play it. Pittsburgh's Your Droid featuring Pen Layds and
Jay ruff Bone White from Humology Volume two. Here on
the Infinite Banchure podcast.

Speaker 10 (01:08:06):
Oh yeah, let me get the polo road for this one.
He yo, King of Droy, What up still city for
one two? I feel like I'm gliding on this shit.

Speaker 8 (01:08:22):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
This feels like.

Speaker 10 (01:08:25):
Micro dots and off piece and quiet with no commotion.
Look in my eyes you could tell I was smoking
when the real word was spoken. Your wack rounds are
kind of assulting, like a cracker. You's assaultine. No actors
like Bruce Prinstein. This track is harder than no vaccilline.
I had big dreams of being on a TV screen, Yo,
Listen to the philosophy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Shut down the hypocrisy.

Speaker 10 (01:08:46):
Okay, I'm running things like a democracy. Your whole flow.
They made a mockery. You can't duplicate or copy meat.
Our face covered up like my comedy used to bust snap.
Send the back line, which we made it hot like. Besides,
I'm the light of the pot. Put your hands up
like an all robbery smooth like a pair of Walla beats,
wallap like the willow wall wall.

Speaker 12 (01:09:07):
Some of my best works should roads just in the
dress shirts line I'm a depression, Nextpert seasonal and catch
you outside Regional my gunk coat like leave it too
with my nephew playing.

Speaker 8 (01:09:18):
Pikaboo for another side of light.

Speaker 12 (01:09:20):
You might not make it too so you might you
need to take a few think about your next move
you're making.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
If I was sure, I.

Speaker 12 (01:09:28):
Wouldn't have to be you in my life once not
saying it, I'm wrong with right.

Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
I'm right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
It's nice.

Speaker 8 (01:09:33):
My pair of fresh off ice call, feed the dogs,
make sure the doors locked the.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Night shit type of shit.

Speaker 12 (01:09:39):
I like my dad always used to say that ship
and not seeing what the drains I.

Speaker 8 (01:09:43):
Wear, that's the ship.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
It's an amazing year.

Speaker 8 (01:09:46):
We made it out of line, my floes.

Speaker 12 (01:09:48):
Like to surprise, snow falling out the sky, getting on
the fourth ly gonna beat.

Speaker 8 (01:09:53):
I would let me out here in the car seats.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
I've seen it all right from Paw Street, see it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
All from the city, I mean, Android and y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Peace guard for the move to the stars. Be perfectly
in line so they know who we are. And y'all,
there's a difference between knowledge and bars. You spend a
line of bars mad they line in the fall a
guard from the father, but the father for guards, and
your niggas told me who I was, but I never
would start.

Speaker 8 (01:10:21):
I told these brothers men, it's more like art.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
I came't from the city to the bridges where niggas
said the wish to what you're paying for college and
dropped out founding knowledge everywhere and trying to crucify the
guard because I'm standing here.

Speaker 8 (01:10:32):
I used to pop a lot of bottles.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
Pused to pop some men's niggas never celebrated my Wednesday.

Speaker 8 (01:10:37):
Ain't never cared, but it was different.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
If you did it, man, you want some chance, and
if I didn't make you crying bench you initially says,
so don't care.

Speaker 8 (01:10:44):
Got my heart wrapped in the bubble wrap, and get a.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Couple of stacks and blow a fast and mad him
running back, and yoga's me thirty five year old Victory
lapp Let's glow a couple of stacks and y'all, pen
Laude might have to run the shit back, But show
my hometown where we stand at and fuck on on.
Fuck boys, man, gotta relax and bring go the gods
with the same man that come in and relax. Yeah,
and if they want to learn to bring them here as.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
They don't fuck up, we got to.

Speaker 8 (01:11:09):
Weed them out. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Chill shit man, it's all we bound ya don't win
it man, my niggas we got the same vision.

Speaker 11 (01:11:15):
Yeah, every side is different. Every side got their own thing,
everybody got their own slang.

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
But it's still a bird thing.

Speaker 11 (01:11:27):
Some people say some people say nepts, some people say
home means, some people say hoods, some people say silk,
some people say boys, some people.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Say who grave. Just depending on where you at.

Speaker 11 (01:11:45):
It's the bird ready, ain't nothing like it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
It's the bird braby.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
It's just different.

Speaker 11 (01:11:53):
We groundhoar, we hustle, We wake up every day and
make shit happen.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
And mister Rogers is from.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
Our neighborhoods.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Yo, this is DJ Chill Well with Dougie Fresh and
to get Fresh crew, and you're listening to Infinite Batch
with my man DJ sith Way, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
It's time for you to leave.

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
Asshold all right?

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Dad?

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
Is Kirk cassaveto tell me it's time to go? And
that is exactly what I'm going to do. But before
I get out here, I did tease it a little
bit at the beginning. Huge icons, legends in the hip
hop game that have put out albums since I last
put out an episode Slick Rick. I mean, everybody's talking
about it. It's called Victory. I ordered the vinyl. I
don't actually have the album in my hands, but I
mean you could go on YouTube or whatever. You could
hear it. You know, you have to wait for the

(01:12:37):
physical copy to be in your hands. But he just
dropped something, and Chuck D just released something. As a
matter of fact, public En Me released the song called
March Madness, which is unrelated to this album about to
talk about, So check that out too, and Flavors on
that one. But I'll talk about the Chuck D one
first because I actually have the vinyl and played it
and everything. It's called Chuck D Presents Enemy Radio Radio
Armoor Geddons. I'm holding it in my hand because it's

(01:12:58):
a long title. I don't want to forget it. Flav
is not on it. It's not a Public Enemy release necessarily.
It's Chuck D solo basically, but a lot of features
on here, and similar to the Slickerck album. I think
it's kind of fitting that they both came out around
the same time. They're both kind of formatted the same
in the sense that they're very short songs on both

(01:13:18):
of these. As a matter of fact, there's only maybe
a couple of actual, like three minute songs on both
of these. The only difference really is, like the Chuck
Do You one is kind of set up like you're
flipping too different radio stations, and Chucky just so happens
to be the DJ host on all of them, So
every time you're flipping hearing Chuck d You doing another
verse on something featuring somebody else. So I like his
album the way it's done it. I've never heard anything

(01:13:39):
like it before. It's kind of like this podcast reminded
me of the podcast a little bit. It's got drops
in between. There's songs here, there's verses what people you've
never really heard of before, but you like what you've
heard when you hear them, and it's just Chuckdy doing
a sting talking about things that are relevant, really good.
And the vinyl packaging, I mean, if you get a
chance to get it. First of all, it's on def JAM.
I had no idea he was still aligned with def
jam anymore. But it comes with a free autograph, a

(01:14:01):
signed a picture within the vinyl, so that's just awesome.
And then the vinyl itself is red, really bright red,
and it's great. There's a couple of really good songs
on here. Like I said, the only drawback of it
that the songs are short. But otherwise, I mean, it's
new Chuck Dy. I'm not complaining, and the singles are
slicker Rick. I'm not complaining about that either. I do
wish some of the songs are longer, probably the best song,

(01:14:22):
and there's a song called Landlord, which happens to be
a couple verses and it's like three minutes long, so
it felt like a real song. There's a track with
Nas called Documents. I like that one as well. There's
a song called Stress, which is really good. And the
last two tracks on the album might be my favorite.
But the problem is they're only like a minute long.
Like I'm listening to them like, oh man, there's only
thirty seconds left in this thing. You know what both
albums sound like. So the Slick Rick album Victory and

(01:14:45):
the Chuck Dye album they're format in a way. That
feels like those old school mixtapes. You used to get those,
like in the nineties and two thousands in that era,
and they still make mixtapes, but it doesn't mean the
same thing as it used to me back then. You like,
the mixtape would be like a preview of an album
coming or some kind of project from that artist, and

(01:15:06):
it would have like little clips of things to expect
or whatever, like a preview. And these two albums feel
like the mixtape is actually the result the end game,
Like you're not actually making a mixtape to preview an album.
The album is the mixtape now. So this is not
an insult or anything. That's how the albums feel because

(01:15:27):
the way they're formatted, in the way the song that
is so quick and it kind of especially the slick
Rick one, just jumped from song to song so fast.
It kind of feels like I'm listening to a Slick
Rick mixtape or Chuck D mixtape. The difference with the
Chuck D one is that I feel like he formatted
it this way on purpose, where the slick Rick one
was more like I only have a couple verses each time.
That's how these songs are going to be and again,

(01:15:49):
I don't mean this as an insult. That's just how
it felt. That's that's where my head was at when
I'm listening to these. The bottom line is, I'm glad
to see both guys come out with something, and I'm
really hyped to hear more from them hopefully, But at
the very least we got some new music at twenty
twenty five from two deaf Jam legends, you know what
I mean, Like, this is just crazy, and you know,

(01:16:10):
Sloop the Slick Rick, I know this project was in
the works for a while and I'm just glad to
see that you put something out there. I was kind
of wishing Doug was on there somewhere. I was looking,
where's Dougie Fresh at? He needed one track with Doug
or you know, maybe bring back the old Get Fresh
crew a Chill Will and Barry be shout out to
Chill Will past the guests on the show here would
have been really cool. But anyways, go cop those albums,

(01:16:32):
support the legends, support the icons. And you know, Slick
Rick was sixty years old putting an album together. It's crazy,
It's just crazy. I think Chuck is not that far
different in age from Slick Rick, So just Sloop all
of those guys putting in work. Hip hop is not
about young men. Only the old school cats, the guys
who put this thing together. They still have a voice

(01:16:53):
and old people like myself, we want to hear it.
So keep doing your things, slick Rick, Chuck do you
go support those albums?

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
Go?

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
But otherwise, I mean it's slick Rick at sixty years
old doing you know, a lot more than these younger
cats could do.

Speaker 8 (01:17:06):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
Shout out to slick Rick. There's actually a video version.
It's like a visual counterpart to the album, and you
hear a lot of the songs in there in a
video format and it just Elbaw is behind it and
I think he helped executive produce the album. So that's
really cool to see a man stringer Bell from the
Wire involve with slick Rick. Is it that England feel?
And I can't wait to get the vityl in my hands.

(01:17:27):
But definitely just excited to see that slick Rick and
Chuck D are putting out new music in twenty twenty five.
I did not have that on my Bengal card for
twenty twenty five New music from Chuck D and Slick
Rick in June of twenty twenty five. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
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(01:18:01):
I review the Friday at thirteenth a crylic stand. Go
check out that new Chuck d album. Check out the
new Slick Rick. Shout out to King of Droid. Check
out his new album Himology Volume two, and so I
do another one of these. You need to get a
cool drink and relax. Play Homology too set on the balcony.
Although it's really hot out there. I don't think I'm
gonna do that until I do another one of these.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
I'm out, pay asshole, get off the road.

Speaker 5 (01:18:38):
Being on the Infinite Fanner with my Man Munk has
been a pleasure.

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